German Defense Minister: we will not inform Russia about where we are going to Syria ...

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German Defense Minister Ursula Gertrud von der Lyayen, who yesterday put forward Syria's demands, in order for German troops to deign to join the anti-terrorist coalition, today began to reflect on a possible "interaction" with Russia on the Syrian issue. More precisely, about non-interaction with Russia ...

German Defense Minister: we will not inform Russia about where we are going to Syria ...


According to the head of the German Defense Ministry, who spoke on the N24 channel, the Russian side "will not be provided with data on flights of the German Air Force in the skies over Syria."

Ms. von der Lyayen's words RIA News:
I want to clarify once again: the pictures and data about where we are flying are exclusively at the disposal of the members of our coalition I spoke of. They will not be provided to Russia.


At the same time, von der Lyayen immediately added:
It will only be discussed, who flies where to avoid collisions.


As you can see, the German Minister of Defense has the notions of “where we fly” and “where we fly” - that is, as they say, two big differences.

Today it became known that the German government approved the participation of the Air Force and the German Navy in the anti-Igilov mission in Syria. Berlin is going to send reconnaissance aircraft, refueling aircraft to Syria. A German frigate should approach the shores of Syria. The total number of German troops involved in the operation, 1,2 thousand people.

The haste of the "allies" is understandable. The end of the DAISH (ISIL) and other terrorist groups in Syria is approaching, and therefore the West has joined the opening of the “second front” in order to divide the victory ...
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  1. +112
    1 December 2015 16: 45
    Apparently, the lady has critical days. Thinks strangely. Today is one thing, tomorrow is another. Maybe in the west they put women in such positions, so that later they say, "Yes, a woman, what to take from her, she has seven Fridays a week"
    1. +86
      1 December 2015 16: 47
      According to Ursula Gertrude von der Leyen, the Russian side “will not be provided with data on the flights of the German Air Force in the sky over Syria”
      Oh well! Make sure that you are not "accidentally" confused with the Turks in the sky of Syria!
      1. +60
        1 December 2015 16: 50
        Quote: Wend
        Apparently the ladies have critical days.

        Apparently - this is just nonsense, you just think:
        1.data about where we fly ... will not be provided to Russia
        2. It will only be discussed who flies where

        iiiii? smile .... where is your logic? )

        PS
        It's like Klitschko: "Today I can't pay everything for Russian gas, or rather, not only everything, few people can do it."
        1. +48
          1 December 2015 16: 58
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          1.data about where we fly ... will not be provided to Russia
          2. It will only be discussed who flies where
          iiiii? .... where is your logic? )

          Women's logic:
          A man in St. Petersburg is asked:
          - What is the likelihood that, going to Nevsky Prospect, you will meet a dinosaur?
          - Less than one billionth.
          A woman has the same question. Answer:
          - A half.
          - Like this???
          - Well, either meet or not meet ...
          1. +32
            1 December 2015 17: 05
            German Defense Minister: we will not inform Russia about where we are going to Syria ...

            And this is not necessary. The bug also does not say where he is crawling to the one who is considering it.
            1. +7
              1 December 2015 17: 12
              Quote: Mahmut
              German Defense Minister: we will not inform Russia about where we are going to Syria ...

              And this is not necessary. The bug also does not say where he is crawling to the one who is considering it.



              That's what kind of nature they have, well, let's see what kind of warriors you are.
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              2. +6
                1 December 2015 22: 10
                German Defense Minister: we will not inform Russia about where we are going to Syria ...

                As if they, the goats, would not be visible on the radar ... laughing
                1. +4
                  1 December 2015 22: 30
                  A typical woman "leader": she says one thing, thinks another, and does the third, thinks that this is such a woman's trick. As one said: how can I predict my actions - I myself do not know what to expect from myself.
                  1. 0
                    1 December 2015 22: 49
                    "Leadership" is not quite right here.
                    This is simply inadequacy.

                    They think that they are invisible and immortal by a coalition .. Well, well ..
                    1. -1
                      2 December 2015 20: 34
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                    2. -3
                      2 December 2015 20: 34
                      Guys, I want to give advice on how to quit smoking easily! The folk remedy with which I was cured in a week also affected my wife and friends, now I recommend it to everyone - http://nnosov-d.blogspot.com
                  2. +1
                    2 December 2015 11: 10
                    Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
                    A typical woman "leader": says one thing, thinks another, and does the third,

                    ... and it turns out the fourth, which everyone is talking about - but she wanted not what happened, but the fifth ...
                  3. +1
                    2 December 2015 13: 54
                    Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
                    Typical woman "leader"


                    No, these are the consequences of the Inquisition in Europe
                    1. +1
                      2 December 2015 22: 27
                      Rather, the consequence of Germany’s self-isolation in the first half of the 20th century .. And, of course, the Inquisition also made itself felt ...
                  4. 0
                    2 December 2015 14: 41
                    We’ll see everything so unpredictable, we’ll see ourselves on the radar. How could such a stupid animal be made the Minister of Defense? I noticed one tendency: politicians are dumber, younger and dumber, where does the world go? Women can’t be put over the army, it can start a war - for a broken nail!
                2. 0
                  2 December 2015 20: 33
                  Interestingly, their pilots knowing that the S-400 is on combat duty will fly without notification to the Russian Air Force. If they fly, then let them order a requiem on their own.
                3. 0
                  2 December 2015 20: 33
                  Interestingly, their pilots knowing that the S-400 is on combat duty will fly without notification to the Russian Air Force. If they fly, then let them order a requiem on their own.
                4. +7
                  3 December 2015 10: 46
                  Here - here, I just wanted to write that even without their messages everything is perfectly visible, all the more so they were no longer hinted at ambiguously, we see everything
              3. +3
                2 December 2015 10: 40
                This woman (Ursula von der Leyen) quite often showed her incompetence. Among the soldiers and officers of the Bundeswehr, her statements cause a bitter smile. She got into trouble quite often. This is the purchase of new weapons, when there was no need for this, this is the scandal with the "Sturmgewehr G36" and her statements that this "shooter" shoots badly and not accurately and it is time to replace it. All these statements by the woman minister of defense drew criticism in the wider environment of the Bundeswehr. She, having no idea, lobbies the interests of both German and, above all, American arms manufacturers. She still cannot explain the areas of operations sent to Syria by the contingent. The fact that the flights of German aircraft will be recorded with high accuracy by means of tracking - she also has no idea about this. I think that Ursula von der Leyen, a mother of seven children, would not send her children to war in conditions of complete uncertainty, but strangers are always welcome!
              4. +1
                2 December 2015 17: 31
                Quote: cniza

                That's what kind of nature they have, well, let's see what kind of warriors you are.


                As there were Hans fascists and murderers, so they remained, despite the democratic make-up.
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            3. +2
              1 December 2015 17: 36
              Quote: Mahmut
              German Defense Minister: we will not inform Russia about where we are going to Syria ...

              it’s close to a denouement, so get there and rush to the table to grab a pie.
              1. +3
                1 December 2015 18: 38
                or maybe to cover the Turks, the Hans flew
              2. +1
                1 December 2015 19: 18
                Quote: hert
                it’s close to the denouement, here they’ll reach and hurry to the pie table

                That's right, now many countries will decide to join, because the main work has already been done.
                In general, it’s very strange, I didn’t imagine that in Syria, airfields at every step, where will the deutsche troops be located?
                1. +4
                  1 December 2015 20: 40
                  Quote: APASUS
                  In general, it’s very strange, I didn’t imagine that in Syria, airfields at every step, where will the deutsche troops be located?

                  And who will provide them with an airfield in Syria? Unless bearded ... Cyprus is nearby, smoked or small-shaven will provide their bases.
                  1. 0
                    2 December 2015 11: 14
                    Quote: Tersky
                    smoked or light-shaven bases will provide.

                    ... "for ..." or "about ..." - "smoked"? ... to clarify ...
                2. +2
                  2 December 2015 03: 40
                  Quote: APASUS
                  That's right, now many countries decide to join,

                  They can solve it .. I have only one question for me: ASADA you askedbefore climbing into the territory of a sovereign state ?! The Libyan scenario does not give lady peace .. only this time Russia does not rule DAMchik! And to go unpunished in a strange sky with impunity!
                3. 0
                  3 December 2015 01: 55
                  "Whoever gets into a fight last, he then lies more than anyone else!" (film "Liberation")
            4. Dam
              +1
              1 December 2015 20: 03
              Yes, you can not say anything to anyone, you can fly, but there can be problems with returning to base!
            5. 0
              3 December 2015 23: 31
              Yes, we and bugs - that is not left. Now, they say, in New York it’s a disaster. Emigrated, or what?
          2. +3
            1 December 2015 17: 13
            Quote: Vladimirets
            - Like this???
            - Well, either meet or not meet ...

            laughing fine)))
          3. +16
            1 December 2015 17: 18
            To say - we will not inform Russia about where we fly in Syria ... you need to at least take off!
            When, this whore, flew with military help to Iraq, then of the three aircraft of the German Air Force, only one was able to rise!
            Others lacked the power of the engines!
            So, come on, mare, go ahead !!!
            1. +2
              1 December 2015 17: 38
              Quote: gav6757
              When, this whore, flew with military help to Iraq, then of the three aircraft of the German Air Force, only one was able to rise!

              collect from all geysoyuz ....
              1. -1
                1 December 2015 17: 47
                collect from all geysoyuz ....

                The girls flew to the war. laughing
            2. +5
              1 December 2015 18: 15
              Quote: gav6757
              To say - we will not inform Russia about where we fly in Syria ... you need to at least take off!
              When, this whore, flew with military help to Iraq, then of the three aircraft of the German Air Force, only one was able to rise!
              Others lacked the power of the engines!
              So, come on, mare, go ahead !!!


              Yes, that there are airplanes ...
              You look at these clowns in the photo in camouflage and gray caps ... Unshaven and husks seeds hike ... Not warriors but some partisans ... Yes, our defense minister would have stood without breathing!
              Put the woman in command, in short ... Perverts, ...
            3. +8
              1 December 2015 18: 38
              Circus. Deutsche Circus.
              1. 0
                3 December 2015 03: 00
                Yes .. The gene pool we spoiled them. For Nefuy was to climb !!!
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              3. 0
                3 December 2015 16: 16
                Why does the lady in the photo have a necklace stuck to her chest? This happens? Or does she have a hefty cross sunk under the neckline? But still, it shouldn’t be like that ... What is this?
            4. bif
              +1
              1 December 2015 23: 11
              Quote: gav6757
              Of the three German Air Force aircraft, only one was able to climb!

              ".. Another question inevitably arising in connection with the German military operation against IS is whether Germany will create problems for the allies in connection with the low quality of military equipment and the training of Bundeswehr personnel. Recall that in September the media got information that Due to the lack of money, the German army faced serious problems.Of 89 Eurofighter Tornado aircraft, only 38 are in working order, of 109 Eurofighter Typhoon - 42. During a training exercise in Norway in February this year, Bundeswehr soldiers had to use sticks instead of machine guns ... . "
              http://vz.ru/world/2015/12/1/781273.html
            5. 0
              2 December 2015 10: 25
              and that one did not fly - it broke
              I had to attract a civilian plane
          4. +8
            1 December 2015 19: 23
            Women's logic:
            A man in St. Petersburg is asked:
            - What is the likelihood that, going to Nevsky Prospect, you will meet a dinosaur?
            - Less than one billionth.
            A woman has the same question. Answer:
            - A half.
            - Like this???
            - Well, either meet or not meet ...


            By the way, everything is in order with logic.
            The accents are just different.
            See:
            1. The man. He talks about the likelihood of meeting a DINOSAUR. That is, one item from some sort of set. The probability, fortunately, is very small.
            2. A woman. She talks about the probability of a MEETING a dinosaur. The choice is already on a different criterion. But here really there are only two options: you can either meet or not meet.

            I think so.
            1. 0
              1 December 2015 19: 53
              Quote: Mowgli
              I think so.

              And in my opinion, this is another proof of the difference between male and female logic. But I don’t want to say anything about Ussul. The minister, e-mine, from the side of the road. .
              1. +2
                1 December 2015 21: 48
                And in my opinion. Shaise Frau has not yet seen blood.
                It’s time for someone to prepare for the land.
                1. +3
                  1 December 2015 22: 23
                  What, all the women who skipped probability theory at school? laughing

                  Chance applicable only to such a concept as event.
                  The events "dinosaur" or "meet" are meaningless. These words are simple.
                  The event is precisely "to meet a dinosaur"
                2. +4
                  1 December 2015 22: 27
                  Quote: Balu
                  And in my opinion. Shaise Frau has not yet seen blood.

                  Saw, but not like you mean laughing She is a former gynecologist. feel laughing
                  1. +1
                    1 December 2015 22: 52
                    What turns out to be in Germany Minister of Defense ..zdaty! laughing
            2. +1
              1 December 2015 22: 34
              You are just like a joke from Petrosyan: "everyone says a movie for fools, a movie for fools ... But I liked it !!!"
            3. +1
              2 December 2015 02: 54
              In addition, it is not specified which particular dinosaur can be met or not met. Alive? A figure for an amusement park? The scenery? A man in a dinosaur costume? Advertising poster? A toy in the hands of a child? Women can think smaller, but wider.
              1. 0
                3 December 2015 02: 04
                Tell me again: what appeared earlier, a chicken or an egg? The answer is unequivocal - EGG ... dinosaur! .. But then there were no hens.
                Quote: housewife
                In addition, it is not specified which particular dinosaur can be met or not met. Alive? A figure for an amusement park? The scenery? A man in a dinosaur costume? Advertising poster? A toy in the hands of a child? Women can think smaller, but wider.

                Then, following your logic, the probability of encountering a dinosaur is equal to one, because if you look carefully, you can find a dinosaur even in the picture.
                1. 0
                  3 December 2015 15: 37
                  Which picture is in the book? Or a poster that will be in the hands of the oncoming person. It is impossible to meet a picture from a book, unless a passer-by will carry it unfolded in front of him. And all these possibilities have varying degrees of probability, but certainly not 1/1. Precisely not to see, but to meet. That is, to move towards. By the way, the male logic in the joke is also strange. How he calculated the probability - seriously. If not serious, it means he was joking. Then why is it not clear that the woman was joking. On the question of a chicken or an egg - if you delve deeply into this matter, your head may hurt. After all, it is not said which appeared earlier, a chicken or a chicken egg. Then it seems to be yes - the first is a dinosaur egg. But! Have you watched the BBC TV serial about dinosaurs? There was an interesting moment in the film about pterodactyls. "The pterodactyls had very strong competitors - birds. They often attacked in a flock, as they were much inferior in size to pterodactyls, and took their prey" !!! Birds again! Back to the egg question! And this is after everyone was inspired with the idea that birds appeared after dinosaurs, being their descendants.
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              2. 0
                4 December 2015 10: 45
                Quote: housewife
                Women can think smaller, but wider.


                I liked it very much, 5 points! Almost like "you need to be softer to people, and look more at questions"
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            5. 0
              2 December 2015 16: 38
              Since the theory of probability follows from practice, the probability of P meeting a dinosaur is zero (P = 0), since the event "someone met a dinosaur" is an impossible event. It can be easily verified experimentally: go out personally or by proxy to Nevsky (or wherever) one, two, three ..., ..., n. The number n must be large enough. In this case, fix the result of the experiment m (i): if you have met, then m (i) = 1, otherwise m (i) = 0. At each step, add m (i) and divide by i. This is the statistical estimate of the desired probability P (i). If Р (i)> 0, then the event "meet a dinosaur" is a possible event.
              As for "either meeting or not meeting", here we are talking about the possible outcome of a single experience - "heads or tails", and "there is no third." Only in an anecdote about officers a coin thrown can stand on its edge or hang in the air.
          5. +3
            1 December 2015 21: 39
            Quote: Vladimirets
            Women's logic:
            A man in St. Petersburg is asked:
            - What is the likelihood that, going to Nevsky Prospect, you will meet a dinosaur?
            - Less than one billionth.
            A woman has the same question. Answer:
            - A half.
            - Like this???
            - Well, either meet or not meet ...

            Only if you studied the "theory of probability" you would understand that this anecdote is for not too educated people wassat
            1. +3
              1 December 2015 22: 07
              I studied at the institute such a subject: "Probability theory and mathematical statistics". But more than 20 years have passed since that time. Of course, everything was completely forgotten (in the subsequent life, somehow neither one nor the other was needed).
              And I didn’t meet a single dinosaur ...
              1. +4
                1 December 2015 22: 38
                In this life you haven’t met, in the next meet, the chances are you have 50:50 laughing
                1. +1
                  1 December 2015 23: 32
                  There are less chances for reincarnation! laughing
                  1. 0
                    2 December 2015 09: 46
                    ... the Indians came up with a good religion,
                    That we, having given ends, do not die for good.
                    (V. Vysotsky)

                    So that the sea opens up opportunities, the main thing to understand this moment:

                    ... Let you live as a janitor - you will be born again as a foreman,
                    And then you will grow from foremen to the minister.
                    But if you are stupid like a tree, you will be born a baobab
                    And you'll be a baobab for a thousand years while you die ...
          6. 0
            3 December 2015 17: 27
            The funny thing is that you can’t argue! Really 1/2! (((
        2. +11
          1 December 2015 17: 14
          In fact, everything is much bolder. From these words looms like this picture:
          1. The coalition divides Syria conditionally in half and says "here is the east of Syria - we are flying here - and you are in the west."
          2. Specifically, when and where who flies in the east, they don’t give data.

          Surely then a contingent is introduced to the east of Syria and there begins a paradise for the "opposition"
          1. +5
            1 December 2015 18: 28
            Quote: Michael-rl
            In fact, everything is much bolder. From these words looms like this picture:

            How careless are they even flying in Syria? Let them fly in Iraq, Assad did not call the Germans, froze as the Union broke up, fiery greetings to Gorbachev, the USSR will not forget him.
            Von der Leyen decided to slap Russia on the second cheek, we will refuse Bavarian sausages. We will buy sausages from the Belgians, maybe Zenith fans will be allowed.
            They brought the empire that no one puts in pennies.

        3. +12
          1 December 2015 17: 14
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          where is uasya's logic? )

          But the logic is this - everything will be coordinated with Russia, it will naturally be who flies, where, how and why (for the S-400 and our fighters - a serious argument), but we must show our own electorate like muscles and state how important and sovereign we are to Russia We will not report.
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          It's like Klitschko: "Today I cannot pay for everything for Russian gas, or rather, not only everything, very few people can do it."

          What do you want from a "former gynecologist"?
          1. win
            +2
            1 December 2015 18: 18
            After the defeat of Germany, the Allies divided its territory into World War II, i.e. USSR, USA, France and England. Everyone is approximately equally divided.

            Now more Western countries want to join the "fight against ISIS" in order to then divide Syria according to the number of members, regardless of the contribution.
            And the United States considers itself the main. The position of the Americans does not allow a compromise: as we decided, they say, it should be so, everyone else should follow the given political stencil.

            The obedient majority of coalition members in agreement with the owner of the White House Barack the First (and thank God, last) clicked with heels and stretched into a string.
        4. +7
          1 December 2015 17: 19
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          1.data about where we fly ... will not be provided to Russia

          As if without it, Russia would not know where, where, how much, why fly.
        5. +1
          1 December 2015 17: 25
          Today, not everyone can buy oil from Turkey, but those who can intercede for it (Turkey) will block it further. Thank you
        6. +1
          1 December 2015 17: 28
          Baba, the Minister of Defense, this already speaks for itself in her head, thoughts about something completely different (x ..) that says it all)))
          1. +8
            1 December 2015 18: 18
            Woman gynecologist Minister of Defense! It’s becoming more and more difficult for the Germans to decide on their orientation.
            1. 0
              1 December 2015 23: 03
              Then a proctologist will be appointed so that everything is politically correct laughing
        7. +3
          1 December 2015 18: 32
          Apparently the ladies have critical days.

          What do you want from the Minister of Defense whose profession is GYNECOLOGIST !!! It seems that soon all of Germany will have critical days. Well, who had the idea ??? or maybe not in the head, APPOINT DEFENSE MINISTER WOMAN, and even GYNECOLOGIST ??? Poor Germans, I feel sorry for them, what a shame! laughing laughing laughing
          1. 0
            1 December 2015 21: 39
            In Europe there are seven female defense ministers, so the trend however!
          2. +2
            2 December 2015 02: 58
            If you appoint the Minister of Defense as a gynecologist, it will be even worse.
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        8. 0
          2 December 2015 10: 31
          Where we go with Piglet is a big, big secret, and we won’t tell about him about no, and no, and ...
        9. +1
          2 December 2015 10: 33
          This woman (Ursula von der Leyen) quite often showed her incompetence. Among the soldiers and officers of the Bundeswehr, her statements cause a bitter smile. She got into trouble quite often. This is the purchase of new weapons, when there was no need for this, this is the scandal with the "Sturmgewehr G36" and her statements that this "shooter" shoots badly and not accurately and it is time to replace it. All these statements by the woman minister of defense drew criticism in the wider environment of the Bundeswehr. She, having no idea, lobbies the interests of both German and, above all, American arms manufacturers. She still cannot explain the areas of operations sent to Syria by the contingent. The fact that the flights of German aircraft will be recorded with high accuracy by means of tracking - she also has no idea about this. I think that Ursula von der Leyen, a mother of seven children, would not send her children to war in conditions of complete uncertainty, but strangers are always welcome!
        10. 0
          2 December 2015 15: 46
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          data about where we fly ... will not be provided to Russia

          But Russia does not need to, let the S-400 missiles be explained .... wassat
      2. +8
        1 December 2015 16: 51
        The words of Ms. von der Lajen

        Frau clearly remembers the boot of a Russian soldier! Can we come back? bully
        1. +4
          1 December 2015 17: 00
          Frau clearly remembers the boot of a Russian soldier! Can we come back?

          "boots" is unlikely, but a soldier in boots ... lol
          1. +1
            1 December 2015 22: 42
            "We can come back," but her youth and attractiveness cannot be returned. So what nafig.
        2. +11
          1 December 2015 17: 05
          Quote: MIKHAN
          At the same time, von der Lyayen immediately added:
          It will only be discussed, who flies where to avoid collisions.

          --------------------
          Stalin ... And what will Comrade Zhukov say on this issue?
          Zhukov ... Comrade Stalin ... I think let them fly, a question? And here Will they come back?
          Stalin ... But on this issue, work on it, it’s very clear, let them think that they’ll do everything right, and we will help them.
          -----------------------------------
      3. +15
        1 December 2015 16: 54
        Quote: Baikonur
        According to Ursula Gertrude von der Leyen, the Russian side “will not be provided with data on the flights of the German Air Force in the skies over Syria” Well, well! Make sure that you are not "accidentally" confused with the Turks in the sky of Syria!

        Yes sir!!!
        Then we will not inform anyone who knocks ....
        1. 0
          1 December 2015 17: 25
          But in principle, it’s good when such clichés are defense ministers. Let them talk to themselves. And in the United States you need such a minister, and the head of the CIA, Pentagon, Navy. Everywhere it is necessary to put such klush and gays with them. So do Christmas trees stick with democracy or not? lol
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            1. +2
              1 December 2015 22: 46
              Marrying a hohlushka is a sure way to ruin your life.
      4. +1
        1 December 2015 17: 13
        Quote: Baikonur
        Oh well! Make sure that you are not "accidentally" confused with the Turks in the sky of Syria!

        To close the sky of Russia with a castle, it is necessary that these cunningly thoughtful people think with their heads.
      5. +6
        1 December 2015 18: 41
        Quote: Baikonur
        Oh well! Make sure that you are not "accidentally" confused with the Turks in the sky of Syria!

        I imagine the eyes of our pilots who saw the identification marks of German planes ... first they will bring down, and then they will remember that the Patriotic War is over ...
      6. 0
        1 December 2015 21: 37
        Interestingly, from what airfield will they fly there, or under the guise of a struggle they gather for our planes to "graze" and direct fighters !?
      7. 0
        3 December 2015 13: 12
        They won’t share the pictures. Even it became a shame.
    2. +13
      1 December 2015 16: 48
      Minister of Defense with critical days is a dangerous thing, start a war just spit
      1. +3
        1 December 2015 16: 55
        This female physiological feature of her can then become the last critical day physically!
    3. +1
      1 December 2015 16: 48
      what is there electronic complexes Koral Turks put on the border with Syria? Too lazy to look. Does anyone have any data on them?
      1. +4
        1 December 2015 17: 25
        Quote: Bombardier
        What kind of electronic complexes Koral did the Turks put on the border with Syria? Too lazy to look. Does anyone have any data on them?


        About TTX-deaf, but there is such an opinion:
        "This is sheer nonsense, they can create interference, to some extent reduce the effectiveness of our system in certain directions, for example, the target detection range by 20 percent, but not blind at all. The signals of the S-400 radar stations have increased noise immunity. to ensure the suppression of these stations, you need to know the logic and algorithms for the operation of this system, "- said TASS Sivkov, commenting on these publications.
        http://tass.ru/politika/2488596
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    5. +22
      1 December 2015 16: 48
      According to the statement of the General Staff of Greece recently, after the inclusion of the S-400 complex, the Turks stopped violating the airspace of Greece, always turn on the turn signal and even began to transfer grandmothers across the road. laughing
      1. +1
        1 December 2015 17: 28
        Quote: Persistent
        According to the statement of the General Staff of Greece recently, after the inclusion of the S-400 complex, the Turks stopped violating the airspace of Greece, always turn on the turn signal and even began to transfer grandmothers across the road. laughing

        And Erdogan is somewhat similar to Potroshenko. Or do their patrons look alike? smile
        1. 0
          1 December 2015 19: 57
          And Erdogan is somewhat similar to Potroshenko. Or do their patrons look alike?

          According to their actions, they are brothers at the genetic level which, in childhood, were simultaneously dropped from the stove .... fool wassat laughing
    6. +6
      1 December 2015 16: 50
      Yes, you’re a fool! But you better thought that it’s like a man to not warn — don’t get into me or use a condom — it just flew in! Wise women don’t act like that, foreseeing the third world .... But no one needs fools! soon ex-minister!
      1. +2
        1 December 2015 17: 14
        With the technical equipment that we deployed in Syria + space, she thinks we need this ?!
    7. +4
      1 December 2015 16: 55
      Wend (2) RU Today, 16:45
      Apparently the ladies have critical days.
      Come on ! The Germans, the Minister of Defense have critical days! What could be a great laughing stock?! For a German ??? !!! Fah! Even typing is disgusting. Guten Aband! And in Russian. Well? Lived! Tolerant, you are ours!
    8. +3
      1 December 2015 16: 56
      So after all the geneticist, what to take from her! This is where and why it matters a lot! laughing
    9. +7
      1 December 2015 16: 57
      Quote: Wend
      Maybe in the West they put women in such positions, so that later they say, "Yes, a woman, what to take from her, she has seven Fridays a week."

      You don’t even have to wait, you can immediately talk about it, only by comparing the two phrases given:
      I want to clarify once again: the pictures and data about where we are flying are exclusively at the disposal of the members of our coalition I spoke of. They will not be provided to Russia.

      It will only be discussed, who flies where to avoid collisions.

      That is, WHERE we fly, we will not say Russia, we will only say WHERE we fly and WHO flies!
      Does this last addition not completely disavow the first sentence? what
      Actually, we don’t need to know WHERE - we will guess ourselves if we know WHO and WHERE! bully wink
    10. +18
      1 December 2015 16: 57
      Ay yayai! The lady didn’t take into account one thing: tickets to the Middle East theater of operations must be bought. And now ticketers are sitting in green booths for managing S-300 systems
    11. +1
      1 December 2015 17: 09
      Quote: Wend
      Apparently the ladies have critical days.

      Apparently the lady has a critical age. The Germans, although not bad warriors, but the Russians always beat them, and if anything, do not drift now. Madame along the way takes her breath away from the illusion of power, that’s all nonsense. In general, she would not have gone there, what she was doing in her previous profession. Napoleons fig.
    12. +4
      1 December 2015 17: 09
      good exactly! Fraulein is guided in military affairs as if she went to the hairdresser!
      1. +2
        1 December 2015 18: 32
        Frau nicht freulein!
        Freulein she was at least 30 years ago.
    13. +1
      1 December 2015 17: 16
      Quote: Wend
      Apparently, the lady has critical days. Thinks strangely. Today is one thing, tomorrow is another. Maybe in the west they put women in such positions, so that later they say, "Yes, a woman, what to take from her, she has seven Fridays a week"

      One word. Gynecologist. But u have to. Minister of Defense gynecologist, crazy geyropa lol
    14. +14
      1 December 2015 17: 16
      In fact, only Russia and Iran have official permission and a request for help from the legitimate leadership of Syria. The rest who ?!
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    17. Tor5
      +9
      1 December 2015 17: 20
      By the way, Syria has the right to shoot down their aircraft at the border, as an aggressor.
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    19. +1
      1 December 2015 17: 20
      Turks buy oil. need to intercede.
    20. 0
      1 December 2015 17: 34
      Russia has taken the initiative from the West in resolving world problems. And, of course, will solve them. And whoever solves the problems dictates the rules and monitors their observance.

      Simply put, the West has "lost face." And again, at the expense of Russia, against her background, he wants a new guise.

      The war of civilizations, however.
    21. 0
      1 December 2015 17: 44
      Quote: Wend
      Apparently the ladies have critical days.

      No, everything is much simpler. She served as a warrant officer in the Soviet Army - "Stay there, come here" or "dig from here until evening"! soldier
    22. +2
      1 December 2015 17: 52
      I don’t know how to laugh or cry directly, since recently in Europe women have been men, both in appearance and in character. While men prefer to hysteria more about without him, the example of Jens Stoltenberg clearly demonstrates his confidence bordering with delirium.
      1. +4
        1 December 2015 18: 02
        Quote: lotar
        I don’t know how to laugh or cry directly, since recently in Europe women have been men, both in appearance and in character. While men prefer to hysteria more about without him, the example of Jens Stoltenberg clearly demonstrates his confidence bordering with delirium.

        I also can’t laugh ... (and always remember the old joke)))))

        Frau clearly remember the Russian soldier and wait ..))))) drinks
      2. +6
        1 December 2015 18: 41
        The Germans have something to be proud of; they have reached the top of the development of the Aryan nation ...
    23. +1
      1 December 2015 18: 27
      But what about the C400
    24. 0
      1 December 2015 18: 28
      Quote: Wend
      Maybe in the West they put women in such positions, so that later they say, "Yes, a woman, what to take from her, she has seven Fridays a week."

      There's a man held in high esteem by a peasant and a type of woman but with a beard. I would not be surprised if this Ursula secretly performed a sex change operation! what
    25. +7
      1 December 2015 18: 35
      Career growth Frau Lainen ...
    26. 0
      1 December 2015 18: 47
      Quote: Wend
      Strange reasoning. One thing today

      I recommend that pilots urgently learn the Russian language and independently notify of their approach ... or take this Madame with her on board during the flight fool
    27. 0
      1 December 2015 19: 13
      Yes, it’s just sad that Germany has such a minister of defense, she is Fashington’s next talking head, otherwise how could she even become a minister of defense.
      I recall the situation with how plagiarism was found in writing a scientific work by its predecessor, after which he was fired))))). It seems to me just like that, such plagiarism is not detected)))))
    28. +1
      1 December 2015 19: 34
      Quote: Wend
      Apparently the ladies have critical days.

      She is a gynecologist in the past. And gynecology has much the same relation to military affairs as the influence of tank production on mating games of muskrats.
      Quote: Wend
      Strange reasoning.

      I won’t be surprised if Conchita Wurst becomes her main adviser. The adequacy is there since the pregnant woman chews polystyrene foam, and with the advent of a bearded woman (I can not name it another way), all special effects can safely be multiplied by times.
    29. +1
      1 December 2015 19: 38
      Pay attention to the photo! and these are the soldiers of the Bundeswehr! lol
      1. 0
        2 December 2015 08: 57
        Well, they would have caught them somewhere - but they are doing it with their minister! You should have hit her on the head - they say that you are our way .... wassat
    30. 0
      1 December 2015 20: 20
      Well, yes "not only everyone can understand .."
    31. +3
      1 December 2015 20: 35
      Quote: Wend
      Apparently the ladies have critical days.

      Well, this is unlikely, she already has a post-climactic age, rather it’s a headache ... winked , or with your head ...
    32. 0
      1 December 2015 21: 34
      And we will not warn where and whom we will shoot down, we have exercises at the S-400 and S-300 air defense systems. Guess the place of the exercises)))
    33. 0
      1 December 2015 21: 34
      And we will not warn where and whom we will shoot down, we have exercises at the S-400 and S-300 air defense systems. Guess the place of the exercises)))
    34. 0
      1 December 2015 22: 13
      Quote: Wend
      Maybe in the West they put women in such positions, so that later they say, "Yes, a woman, what to take from her, she has seven Fridays a week."

      I don’t know how many Fridays, but this chicken has seven children! By the way, she was an assistant doctor in the gynecological department of the University Hospital Hanover. Is this the Minister of Defense of Germany ?!
    35. 0
      2 December 2015 03: 12
      Ours didn’t get to this, Vasilieva at least commanded the department. Interestingly, she (MO) knows that there is no business class in a combat aircraft?
    36. 0
      2 December 2015 11: 00
      this could blur either a suicide or a provocateur.
    37. 0
      2 December 2015 11: 36
      German Defense Minister: we will not inform Russia about where we are going to Syria ...
      .
      Quote: Wend
      Strange reasons
      Reasoning correctly. Here, some of the "partners" got in touch.
      What ended, I think no need to remind ..
    38. 0
      2 December 2015 14: 33
      No, in my opinion she hadn’t had a man for a long time - now she’s rushing around, I will, then I won’t.
      (where we fly - who flies where)
    39. 0
      3 December 2015 22: 09
      Quote: Wend
      Apparently, the lady has critical days. Thinks strangely. Today is one thing, tomorrow is another. Maybe in the west they put women in such positions, so that later they say, "Yes, a woman, what to take from her, she has seven Fridays a week"

      Let's forgive all the same woman, if a man understands the command "lie down" incorrectly, then what to talk about further. what
    40. 0
      4 December 2015 09: 49
      rather, she has insanity on the background of menopause !!!
    41. 0
      4 December 2015 11: 37
      She is generally a gynecologist by profession, what to take from her?
  2. +2
    1 December 2015 16: 45
    We won’t tell you where you are going to fly, we’ll quickly remind your country of May 1945 !!!
    1. 0
      1 December 2015 16: 56
      Quote: Vikings
      recall your country May 1945 !!!

      This is unlikely, but an analogy with May 45th can be drawn. Germany was divided in May, and the intervention of the Western coalition could lead to the partition of Syria. They will gouge IS from Iraq, hold elections, and first recognize autonomy, and then independence. And there are just oil-bearing areas.
      True, there is a nuance - in that area the garrison of Deir ez Zor is held.
  3. +12
    1 December 2015 16: 45
    Well, well ... You tell the calculation of the S-400 ... laughing
    1. +5
      1 December 2015 16: 55
      laughing In the restaurant. -Hey, the military - and the calculation ?? And the calculation is in cover !!!
  4. +4
    1 December 2015 16: 45
    Nu-nu, now the Su-34 with explosives, as they say, is fraught. Yes
  5. +11
    1 December 2015 16: 46
    Well then, you will not fly in Syria, request
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  7. +4
    1 December 2015 16: 47
    Athletes Meet: Who are you? - I am Ilya Muromets - from the city of Murom. - And I: Alyosha Popovich, but how can I not say!
  8. +4
    1 December 2015 16: 47
    No matter how gallant German pilots fell down with the wreckage of their aircraft directly onto the Syrian land. And this would be blamed on our S 400 later. We are waiting for provocations from the "light elves".
    1. 0
      1 December 2015 18: 24
      But where we won’t beat them, we won’t tell you either. And I will not even tell them under torture where Russia is located.
  9. +2
    1 December 2015 16: 48
    Fool woman, what else to say.
  10. +1
    1 December 2015 16: 48
    Well, I told you that everyone is in a hurry to become "winners". Only who told this lady that she can fly and move here at all. Joining any coalition does not imply the right to unauthorized border crossing. Maybe we can fly over Bavaria too?
    1. +1
      1 December 2015 16: 57
      Quote: XYZ
      Only who told this lady that she can fly and move here at all.

      and who will forbid her, except for Syrian air defense? And they are not smiling at the coalition either.
      1. +1
        1 December 2015 17: 28
        If the Syrian air defense systems are of Russian origin, then the "coalition" does not smile either.
  11. +1
    1 December 2015 16: 49
    The West joined the opening of the "second front" in order to manage to share the victory ...

    Well, that’s not their thing. Bouncers and torn posers.
  12. 0
    1 December 2015 16: 49
    And how to improve relations "partners" wassat want to

    It will only be discussed, who flies where to avoid collisions.

    And here you have to negotiate. But, not who and where is flying, but where the "partners" can fly so as not to become a "potentially hostile target".
    1. +2
      1 December 2015 17: 21
      Quote: Alexander1959
      And here you have to negotiate. But, not who and where is flying, but where the "partners" can fly so as not to become a "potentially hostile target".

      In any case, this is a hostile target, because it does not respond to a friend or foe’s request. Even any civilian vehicle that is not on an officially designed corridor for flights of civilian vessels, even with the transponder on, is an intruder and must be either forced landing or destroyed if it doesn’t order means air defense.
      1. +3
        1 December 2015 19: 31
        Firstly, no one invited Germany to Syria, so German planes in the sky of Syria are subject to destruction!
        Secondly, does this defense minister really know about warning Russia that any aircraft not belonging to Syria and Russia will be accepted as an aggressor and destroyed!
        Thirdly. Nobody came to the Syrian government except Russia on the issue of military assistance, so I am surprised by the discussions in the governments of European countries about the possible participation in the war in Syria.
  13. +6
    1 December 2015 16: 50
    To get started, ask the President of Syria, Bashar al-Assad. Otherwise - undisguised intervention, vultures.
    1. -1
      1 December 2015 17: 40
      And if they decide to invade, then the Kurds, the Syrian army and our VKS will give them a warm welcome - or rather, a hot one.
    2. 0
      1 December 2015 18: 09
      And who will ask Syria. What do you think that we will go against Germany. or Syria will go, Until now, Syria does not even speak at the UN that foreign planes fly on its territory. Only we have the right. Something after the Turks did not respect us. It is only we who report where and where we fly.
  14. +2
    1 December 2015 16: 50
    Quote: Wend
    Apparently, the lady has critical days. Thinks strangely. Today is one thing, tomorrow is another. Maybe in the west they put women in such positions, so that later they say, "Yes, a woman, what to take from her, she has seven Fridays a week"

    what critical there ... she has menopause for a long time wassat
  15. 0
    1 December 2015 16: 52
    Maybe these arrogant "heroes" can be left alone and curtailed any economic interaction. Gas cannot be supplied to the smartest and most beautiful, and much more. Let them tumble over there with America! Coalition of damn ... hicks!
  16. +3
    1 December 2015 16: 52
    A week has not passed since the downed Su-24, and caps with earflaps are back in fashion. fool
  17. 0
    1 December 2015 16: 52
    The end of Daesh (ISIS) and other terrorist groups in Syria is nearing, and therefore the West has joined the opening of a "second front" in order to manage to share the victory ...
    more precisely, to gain a foothold in the oil regions under the guise of apposition. Let's hope that the Russian-Syrian-Iranian coalition is ready for another stab in the back.
  18. +6
    1 December 2015 16: 52
    maybe I'm wrong, but I do not share optimism about the imminent demise of IS ...
  19. 0
    1 December 2015 16: 53
    They will not be provided to Russia.
    I immediately decided to introduce to God, mediators.

    Chatted, "The whole capital
    Shuddered, and the girl -
    Hee hee hee yes ha ha ha!
    Not afraid to know sin. "
    A. Pushkin.
  20. +11
    1 December 2015 16: 53
    I can’t understand something, only Russia received permission from the Syrians to provide military assistance in the fight against ISIS. And now everyone is climbing there. This seems to be regarded as a declaration of war, or every passage of coalition aircraft as a violation of the Syrian border. In this case, the Syrians have every right to shoot them down? Maybe I'm wrong?
    1. +5
      1 December 2015 17: 05
      The question is who considers Assad the legitimate head of Syria. The West does not consider and from here they do not care if Assad permits or not.
      When Russia, which considers Assad the legitimate head of the country, received permission from him, it played little role in terms of who would fly there and who wouldn’t.

      To whom to fly, and to whom not - Russia decided on the fact of its being there, and not the permission of Syria, which is only formal.
      Russia came, forced the West to listen to itself, made them forget that it is possible to make a no-fly zone, so that they can do what they want.
      1. +3
        1 December 2015 17: 39
        The question is who considers Assad the legitimate head of Syria. The West does not consider and from here they do not care if Assad permits or not.
        When Russia, which considers Assad the legitimate head of the country, received permission from him, it played little role in terms of who would fly there and who wouldn’t.

        To whom to fly, and to whom not - Russia decided on the fact of its being there, and not the permission of Syria, which is only formal.
        Russia came, forced the West to listen to itself, made them forget that it is possible to make a no-fly zone, so that they can do what they want.


        Formal is not formal, but it is legal from the point of view of international law.
        And for example, we do not recognize Poroshenko as legitimate, and that, this gives us the right to fly over Ukraine by shooting not very idle shells at those terrorists that took and de-energized Crimea.
        1. +3
          1 December 2015 17: 53
          Quote: Didn't serve
          And we, for example, recognize Poroshenko as legitimate,


          Actually recognized. sad
        2. 0
          1 December 2015 21: 13
          What right? Does it exist? The UN and a bunch of countries - about a hundred say that from the point of international law, Russia has occupied Crimea. Russia, relying on the same right, says no. So what? The law that draws .. Everyone interprets as he wants.
      2. 0
        1 December 2015 20: 13
        Quote: Wiski
        Russia decided to whom and not to fly

        Cool! You seem to have already privatized Syria? wink
        1. +1
          1 December 2015 20: 23
          Quote: Bayonet
          Cool! You seem to have already privatized Syria?

          They didn’t privatize it, but the second airdrome in Shairat is already being prepared ... plus other aerospace aerodromes are also used by the Syrian Air Force: Syria’s Tiyas base, for example.
          But this infa was a little perplexing ... it was inspired by the entry of our ground forces into Syria -
          In addition, Russia intends to send a “large number” of TOS-1 heavy flamethrower systems designed to “defeat the enemy’s manpower”.
          . Let's see in general. hi
        2. 0
          1 December 2015 21: 15
          Quote: Bayonet
          Cool! You seem to have already privatized Syria?


          Who are "we?
          Russia for Assad is the last hope. Assad gave Russia everything that she wants. Without Russia, nothing is being solved in Syria already. Therefore, in fact, at the moment, Syria really relies on Russia, and therefore Russia, having set up air defense, equipping bases, etc. makes it impossible to fly without coordination with it.
    2. 0
      1 December 2015 20: 10
      Quote: ilyaches
      Maybe I'm wrong?

      Why rack your brains, ask the Syrians, it's so easy hi
  21. 0
    1 December 2015 16: 54
    Oh, and all this is not good.
    Well, why should the Germans enter?
    Pictures show .... fool , colorize drawings ... wassat, ".. who flies where to avoid collisions ...", request .
    What collisions ... in the air or something they will collide with each other.
    Gone are the days of the "brilliant" Melders and Hartmanns, they are now preoccupied with avoiding collisions.
    Where will they get the airfield? For one tornado.
    Again in Turkey?
    Here they have a kayuk.
    ...
    Are you flying far?
    Our dearest DAISH.
    1. 0
      2 December 2015 14: 40
      Well, why should the Germans enter?

      It’s just that quite a long time ago Russians didn’t come to Berlin in tanks, so I got bored of the thrills ...
  22. 0
    1 December 2015 16: 56
    So what? Russia does not have mania, like some morons, to knock down everything in the air. And if problems arise, then these are the problems of Germany itself ...
  23. Riv
    +1
    1 December 2015 16: 58
    Is she not afraid that the Turks will also bring down the German plane? Brave woman, you will not say anything ...
  24. +1
    1 December 2015 16: 58
    Do not judge strictly. What did you want from a mother of seven children, a certified specialist gynecologist?
  25. +2
    1 December 2015 16: 58
    The West was frightened of our campaign on the planet and our actions and decided that if it does not stop us, then in their opinion we will be the dominant force everywhere. And this is like death for them, because they consider themselves masters of fate. But they don’t know that no one thinks besides them. If Russia has the wisdom and patience in such a pressure on the edge of an overgrown west, then we will rule the world. If we backtrack completely, then it will be even worse.
  26. +1
    1 December 2015 16: 59
    Vultures flock to divide Syria! - it would be necessary to close the sky over Syria with electronic warfare, and not just air defense
  27. +1
    1 December 2015 16: 59
    We will not say where we were and whom we bombed .. Kindergarten, babble.
  28. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 00
    Vie..t would be s..e from the foot. Sorry, but I want to. But essentially, as it were, this slightly justifies a possible strike on NATO aircraft when approaching our base
  29. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 00
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Frau clearly remembers the boot of a Russian soldier! Can we come back?

    Last hope was gone. Just yesterday, your candidacy was proposed as the only one capable of making Ursula kinder. And you ! So with her boot, and even catching up. Maybe she is still early in the trash? Reflect on you all hope. wink
  30. +3
    1 December 2015 17: 01
    Russia is seething ... And it is focusing! Oh, you run into Germans again ...
    1. 0
      2 December 2015 00: 06
      Thanks for the video.
  31. +1
    1 December 2015 17: 03
    Syria - the entrance yard - everyone flies and bomb it is not clear what. It is a pity Bashar cannot declare a ban on flights over the territory of Syria without coordinating with him - they will immediately blame Russia for all sins.
  32. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 04
    what And why are they all climbing into Syria? Bomb ISIS in Iraq. Really, do you really really want to check the real work of air defense or just tease that we’re not afraid, here NATO decides, not Assad and GDP.
    Maybe ours should already loudly declare: those who are not with Russia in an alliance against ISIS do not fly over Syria, regardless of which coalition they are in.
  33. +1
    1 December 2015 17: 04
    German Defense Minister: we will not inform Russia about where we are going to Syria ...

    smile I think our S-400 will do it for you ...
  34. +7
    1 December 2015 17: 05
    I am translating her words so that there are fewer malicious comments and more constructiveness: we will report our flight routes or zones of combat use, but we will not report our goals. As our term paper taught us: "It doesn't matter where you were, I ask where you are coming from!"
    It seems that the West has decided to cut Syria into the zones of occupation and is now in a hurry to stake out plots with the help of ground forces, we are alone noble and will be with the budget. I do not call for the introduction of the forces of the Moscow Region, it is urgent to implement the law on PMCs and resolve this issue with such a resource, as it is often done by everyone. And what will be in service with this PMC and what will be their ability to protect themselves, including from air, is the tenth question laughing
  35. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 07
    Reincarnation?
    1. 0
      1 December 2015 18: 19
      Reincarnation?

      smile
  36. +1
    1 December 2015 17: 08
    They will not be provided to Russia.

    And what for your messages, when everything is already visible. The sky over Syria is covered by C-400, although it’s difficult for a Frau-gynecologist to understand, but she will not tell you everything, and you won’t know. Oh well.
  37. +6
    1 December 2015 17: 09
    Syria should "shout" in all organizations that it has the right to shoot down everyone who flies in and violates its borders without its knowledge. And nobody cares about what it will shoot down. And then what kind of leapfrog turns out. Everyone became insolent in the end. Russia is completely legitimate there, in all parameters of international law. And on what basis and who invited the Germans is not clear. It turns out an act of aggression on the face.
  38. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 09
    Baba she do .... a. fool
  39. +6
    1 December 2015 17: 09
    As you can see, the German Minister of Defense has the notions of “where we fly” and “where we fly” - that is, as they say, two big differences.
    As we used to say in childhood - "it's hard to be waist-deep". Now my daughter means “it's hard to live with false brains”. By the way, the Germans gathered in all seriousness to bring a contingent of 1200 people to Syria. And where will they post? who knows the thread?
    1. 0
      1 December 2015 18: 38
      Quote: NDR-791
      [i] "By the way, the Germans have gathered in all seriousness to bring a contingent of 1200 people to Syria. And where will they be stationed? Who knows the thread?


      Part in Turkey, part in Jordan.
      1. +2
        1 December 2015 19: 20
        nice to know that your opinion infuriates someone. I just set you +, and again you have solid (0). Well, come on, I have a minus. The last three days I’m not surprised at how to get through the Turks or the striped brothers so minus. Checked !!! This was when the Crimea was returned, when Kuevsky Maidan was idle. Break through !!!
    2. 0
      1 December 2015 20: 25
      Quote: NDR-791
      As you can see, the German Minister of Defense has the notions of “where we fly” and “where we fly” - that is, as they say, two big differences.

      And it seems to me that these are problems for the translator. She didn’t say that in Russian. But what a reason to be indignant, knock on the chest with a fist and shine with verbal delights! smile
  40. +5
    1 December 2015 17: 09
    Something will be in the end. The rhetoric and actions of all are awful.
    And so it’s not clear why all countries are going to fight with the Isis in Syria, but what about Iraq, Libya? What is the catch, slow us down, get in the way and get underfoot as much as possible?
    1. +2
      1 December 2015 18: 41
      They will interfere in any case. First of all, they are trying to close the Mediterranean Sea for us with someone else's hands. The European puddle has long been mastered, sawn and staked out !!! But fuck you! Where did the gang called Alqaida go, which turned into YGYL ??? And why would she suddenly move like that? Where is Afghan and where is Syria? Yes, and their path is significant - in Libya they somehow quickly shaken it up, but left the hearth as a last resort. In Iraq, the United States fought, fought for peace, there was no stone unturned. There are no longer any devils found in that Iraq, and the Americans are all sitting in their green zones and will sit. Question to Israel - TO KOLE ??? We, of course, also need it, but if we now leave Syria publicly designating Israel as the culprit of all the unresolved problems in the Middle East? Half of that crowd called IS will run urgently to cut the sons of Israel (these are those who are fighting in their own gardens and are offended by their neighbors), and the other half will run on command from the other hemisphere and chase us here. So do not hope, we will not leave !!! Not that situation. Yes, bastards overlaid! And the Krajna and Turetchin and even Pshekia populate in time. And Europe has swallowed migrants so that now they just show the way to the East and declare that there is land and slaves for you !!! They will run ahead and "Mother Merkel" will definitely not stop them! This has happened more than once in the history of Russia. And the Napoleonic ball skiers and the houses built by the Germans by the Germans are still standing firmly. And we have digested all of them. There was once the Golden Horde and the White Horde. And all this is now "our people". At the time of Catherine II, according to the census, there were 17 million of us. As a percentage, more people lived in Turkey, however ... And the fleet was sent to America to help the North ... We will survive! It's just a pity that all this fuss is not constructive, it does not allow to live in peace and strains not like a child. Under the Soviet Union, I was SURE that if they would at least take revenge for us, but now I think more - they would not surrender ... Confused, more like a drunken delirium, but thinking aloud helps to make a decision or at least some basis.
  41. +3
    1 December 2015 17: 09
    Just like in the song - Fool, fool !!!
    1. +6
      1 December 2015 18: 45
      The Germans, keep up the good work, we are terribly afraid of you ...
  42. +9
    1 December 2015 17: 09
    Of course, the Germans act frivolously - no one called them to Syria, the country is covered by Russian air defense systems, and the Syrian leadership stated that such actions (aviation) are regarded as aggression.
    I would also like to point out to the too optimistic end of the article. Early the author of ISIS buries, too early for a "second front". Terrorists control most of Syria and Iraq, and their sponsors are rich. There is still a war ahead! hi
  43. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 11
    like she said - we’ll do it so that the Russians don’t guess, but we’ll fly there I don’t know where
  44. +3
    1 December 2015 17: 12
    A woman is trying to DEMONSTRATE the independence of Germany from Russia in her actions against DAISH ..
    Her German "uncles in uniform" gave her such a "deal" on the "freedom of action" of German aviation in Syria, from which her emancipated EUROBAB self-esteem was wounded to the very ovaries (starting with ... well, you get me! lol )
    Now this German aunt all over the world is trying to "save the face" of "Great Germany". Realizing ALL OF ITS utter uselessness, both during LOCAL military operations OUTSIDE the European Union, and in FOREIGN POLICY! ...
    PS I am always amazed in Putin by his "angelic" patience, when working with a bunch of "partners" ...
  45. 3vs
    +3
    1 December 2015 17: 14
    And who in general asked the Germans to be there?
    It seems that things are heading for a big war and "tolerant Europe" is by no means on our side.
    It looks like we also pinched their tail with cheap energy ...
  46. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 14
    NATO is such a horror story for fools ...

    NATO is one US country! All other countries are ridiculous from a military point of view ... But in Germany and France, if you wish, you can ignite the Civil War in general ...
  47. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 16
    LGBT people in power in Germany will someday learn to properly express their thoughts.? fool
  48. +4
    1 December 2015 17: 17
    KBR109 (2) SU Today, 16:58 New
    Do not judge strictly. What did you want from a mother of seven children, a certified specialist gynecologist?

    I bet that her kids are not pilots. German Air Force. wink
  49. +7
    1 December 2015 17: 17
    The minister spoke out, so spoke out.
    When will the West stop fooling around? It seems that he also occupies a serious post, which obliges to maintain the "face of the face". Or did you manage to get infected from Psaki?
  50. +3
    1 December 2015 17: 17
    Only the Germans were not there. Holy grail out of habit?
    1. 0
      2 December 2015 13: 37
      Quote: 1536
      Only the Germans were not there. Holy grail out of habit?

      According to the ancient tradition, they row gold, earth (and now also oil), hiding either with grails or shit democracy.
  51. -2
    1 December 2015 17: 17
    German Defense Minister: we will not inform Russia about where we are going to Syria ...

    laughing Russia, even without Germany, will know where, why, how much, for what purpose and with what forces.Then what do you want to hear from a former gynecologist???Accordingly, she thinks like a gynecologist and there is nothing to be surprised about. And in fact, there is no great loss from the fact that the German leadership once again confirmed its dependence on the Americans or, so to speak, sang in unison with American vassals.
  52. +1
    1 December 2015 17: 18
    The division of the skin has begun...
  53. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 18
    “The German government has approved the participation of the country’s armed forces in the anti-terrorism mission against the Islamic State group. No more than 1,2 thousand people will take part in the mission in Syria and Iraq.”
    Stir up!
  54. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 19
    NATO, in principle, is an extremely vile and aggressive entity. And its very existence poses a threat to the whole world. There are again doubts about the permission of the Syrian government for the participation of German troops in Syria. Why don’t they fight in Iraq?
    German Defense Minister Ursula Gertrud von der Leyen - I wonder what her track record is in the German Armed Forces? In my naivety, I really doubt women’s talents in terms of combat operations... and planning.
  55. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 22
    Quote: Wend
    Apparently, the lady has critical days. Thinks strangely. Today is one thing, tomorrow is another. Maybe in the west they put women in such positions, so that later they say, "Yes, a woman, what to take from her, she has seven Fridays a week"

    And who will allow them to fly in Syrian airspace, the train has left, let him roll his lips, Shoigu has a short conversation.
  56. +7
    1 December 2015 17: 22
    I'm just not catching up with something.
    Russia was invited by the Syrian government. And on what basis is this riffraff going to fly there?
  57. ded
    +1
    1 December 2015 17: 23
    It looks like the West is preparing to take credit for the victory over ISIS. As soon as ISIS weakens as a result of Russian bombing, it will begin to seize parts of Syria (of course, completely by chance, where there is oil), create unmanned zones there and introduce a “peacekeeping” contingent from Turkey.
  58. +1
    1 December 2015 17: 23
    we will not inform Russia about where we fly in Syria

    Everything is visible on Russia’s S-400 radars, and so that someone doesn’t fall to the ground there, the Germans will have to tell us.
    1. +1
      1 December 2015 17: 53
      Well, they will report that they are flying to bomb water pumps, how can they be stopped?
  59. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 23
    Yes, let them fly... But I don’t know how a “reconnaissance” or a “refueler” will “agree” with the seeker of a 40N6E missile! fellow
  60. +1
    1 December 2015 17: 23
    I can’t laugh, it made me laugh, but actually they asked Assad’s permission to fly over Syria, are they all immortal there or what? Where is the UN, why is no one reacting, they are going to conduct military operations on the territory of a sovereign state and no one cares, well, let’s see, and the Minister of Defense is a complete chicken, especially her statement:

    "I want to clarify again: Pictures and the data about where we fly is exclusively at the disposal of the members of our coalition, which I spoke about. They will not be provided to Russia"

    that they didn’t explain to her that the pictures were cartographic materials fool
  61. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 27
    The Germans will not tell Russia their targets, and Russia will not tell who they shot down. Nobody knows where they flew away!
  62. -1
    1 December 2015 17: 28
    The further course of events is clear - the NATO kahal, led by the United States, will try to establish a no-fly zone in Syria, primarily on the Turkish-Syrian border.
    After all, the task is not to fight ISIS, the task is to overthrow B. Assad.
  63. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 29
    Apparently they themselves do not know what they will do there and also where to fly and why, the main thing is to declare their participation.
  64. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 29
    (It will only be discussed who flies where to avoid collisions.)

    Well, who, where and what is flying at the moment is clear from the picture. But you will have to synchronize with the Russian Aerospace Forces, Frau-Madame, in any case, since the government of Syria has delegated to the RF the function of deciding on the legality of military actions of certain countries on the territory of the Syrian Republic. That's it, ma'am. bully
    1. +4
      1 December 2015 18: 53
      I don’t know how it flies... but it flies in regularly...
  65. -1
    1 December 2015 17: 29
    The Luftwaffe will not get through. Let's drop it and won't look back! bully
  66. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 32
    So they piled on the poor aunt. Either they didn’t understand, or the translation was incorrect. She meant that Russia would only be informed of the area of ​​operation of German aviation. Well, the goals will not be communicated. What else would she say when the macaque is watching.
  67. -1
    1 December 2015 17: 32
    My God, they won’t speak. Then we won’t say why they (the planes) didn’t return and where they crashed! Here.
  68. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 33
    My God, they won’t speak. Then we won’t say why they (the planes) didn’t return and where they crashed! Here.
  69. +2
    1 December 2015 17: 33
    People here the video is a little off topic so don’t push too hard:
  70. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 33
    They want to push us out of Syria.
    1. +1
      1 December 2015 17: 37
      Russia's partners told the second threat to the world after ISIS DAIL TAGIL AISH HASHISH that we don't care where we want and fly, and you report so that it would be more convenient to shoot down your planes if anything happens
      NEED A BIG BOOMMM I'm tired of this bacchanalia both on our part and on their part fool
    2. 0
      1 December 2015 20: 09
      Quote: Turkir
      They want to push us out of Syria.

      Will not work!
  71. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 34
    There’s something I can’t understand... Did Assad really call for all this veneer? What the hell are they doing in Syria?
    They asked us for help, we came and saw, and threw bombs at those who were needed.
  72. -1
    1 December 2015 17: 38
    The German government approved the participation of the German Air Force and Navy in the anti-ISIS mission in Syria.

    Something tells me that this will most likely be an anti-Assad mission. It would be nice if I’m wrong, but...Facts are a stubborn thing.
  73. -1
    1 December 2015 17: 40
    Stupid woman. Sends 1200 men to war and does not discuss interaction...
  74. -2
    1 December 2015 17: 42
    Comrades! Here it’s good to talk about the fact that “permissions for takeoff are issued in the S-400 control booth,” etc. But the question is different. Will our leadership have enough stuff in its pants to really shoot down those same Germans? Technically, we can land anyone, this fact is not even discussed. But will there be the political will of the leadership for this? Or will they make a deal with their “partners” again? And in the end, the coalition will fly wherever it wants and Syria will lose the eastern oil-bearing provinces? I'm afraid that they will bargain and cave in...
    1. +1
      2 December 2015 09: 29
      "permissions for takeoff are issued at the S-400 control booth"

      I will say more, those sitting in this booth have more hemorrhoids than in the rest of SYRIA.
      There is no need to place unrealistic hopes on the S-400, the maximum they can do is defeat targets that threaten the group at the place of deployment, i.e. covering the airfield, and for this the S-400 is not needed.
  75. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 42
    Quote: Wend
    Apparently the lady is having her period

    It looks more like the last time she had them was 25-30 years ago.)
  76. +1
    1 December 2015 17: 42
    I think you won’t fly far without informing Russia.
  77. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 43
    Quote: Baikonur
    According to Ursula Gertrude von der Leyen, the Russian side “will not be provided with data on the flights of the German Air Force in the sky over Syria”
    Oh well! Make sure that you are not "accidentally" confused with the Turks in the sky of Syria!

    You can’t hide from the S-400 where and where you flew in Syria...
  78. -1
    1 December 2015 17: 43
    A chicken is not a bird, von der Leyen is not an eagle!
    This is what tolerance does: among the men there is no longer a minister in Germany. Apparently Angelika needs someone of her own in the Bundestag, but Sarah Wagenknecht cannot be tolerated.
  79. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 43
    Looks like this woman with ears is a relative of Klitschko!
  80. -1
    1 December 2015 17: 44
    I think everyone went crazy according to the order and I think the goal is to divide Syria into sectors. ISIS will suddenly disappear and something like a moderate opposition to Assad, the oppressed people of Syria, will appear. There are almost no civilians there anyway, so they will bring them in. There will be puppets on the payroll who will sing a song that will be written for them.
  81. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 44
    Russia, be on alert! You should expect any kind of dirty tricks from these hypocritical Euro-creatures!
    1. 0
      1 December 2015 17: 57
      And there will definitely be tricks, this has long become an axiom.
  82. wow
    +1
    1 December 2015 17: 48
    As the famous Antibiotic used to say: “... all women are fools. There are stupid fools, and there are smart ones, but they are also fools...!
  83. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 49
    Has the world gone crazy?
    Not a bad looking woman, she talks about such matters that they could simply destroy humanity. True, it’s interesting - Germany does not inform about the actions of its Air Force, but Russia declares and shows its readiness to defend the space over Syria “as its own.”
    Auntie needs to trample through the trenches, learn for herself, her well-groomed legs, what trench sickness is, or, for starters, give up five dietary meals a day. Not her mother, but her grandmother, probably, was also happy with the soldier’s biscuit, the Soviet biscuit! In 1945!
    Forgot the taste - let's bring back the feeling of hunger?
  84. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 50
    And none of these are going to coordinate their plans with the legitimate government of Syria. They will push back the Aerospace Forces little by little, like fighting the Islamic State.
    1. +1
      1 December 2015 18: 03
      The gut is thin ...
  85. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 51
    The surprising thing is that France understood how to act legally in Syria, but the Germans have problems with their brains or what? Or is it not clear what the Syrian President said about participating in the anti-DAESH operation: Russia was asked, but where are you going? Well, well, let’s see how you get out of this situation, “comrades”, that they forgot about Stalingrad, so we can remind you!? That’s where the Russian proverb is applicable that “... a woman with a cart makes it easier for a mare...”, drive away the women in the neck, dear “comrades”, otherwise, because of their sexual preoccupation, they will lead you into such jungle that no Uncle Sam will help!
  86. -2
    1 December 2015 17: 52
    I think that the Germans and Americans will send ground troops into Syria, and all our bombing will be in vain. Any army of a NATO country entering the territory of Syria will create a springboard for training the “opposition” to Assad, and will naturally control part of the territory of the Syrian state, which will not be able to bomb Russian Aviation will not be able to occupy the Syrian army. Then this piece of land will probably leave Syria forever, like Kosovo in Serbia. So a ground operation by any of the NATO countries will negate all the efforts of the Russian and Syrian armies.
    So we had to immediately send in troops, but now, unfortunately, there is a high probability that we will disgrace ourselves again and not be able to hold Syria
  87. 0
    1 December 2015 17: 53
    we will not inform Russia about where we fly in Syria

    and who we bomb!
  88. +1
    1 December 2015 17: 55
    From Pikul’s book (WWII, 1941-1945): and now the allies have opened a second front -... to share the victory.
  89. -1
    1 December 2015 17: 58
    Just relax. The Third World War is very close and it will begin due to the fact that some will cover up terrorists and others will destroy.
    The USA is not the USSR and will never give up hegemony without a war. This is a fact
  90. +1
    1 December 2015 17: 59
    Did Syria invite the Germans?
  91. -1
    1 December 2015 18: 01
    I want to clarify once again: pictures and data about where we fly are exclusively at the disposal of the members of our coalition, which I spoke about. They will not be provided to Russia


    So there's no need...
    The S400 will tell you, and if necessary... Well, you understand me.... laughing
  92. +1
    1 December 2015 18: 01
    Eh, fellow Krauts, you need to think, just like in XNUMX, before taking rash steps. Otherwise, all this will cost you dearly. tongue
  93. 0
    1 December 2015 18: 04
    Quote: Alexander_
    And none of these are going to coordinate their plans with the legitimate government of Syria. They will push back the Aerospace Forces little by little, like fighting the Islamic State.


    The gut is thin!
  94. 0
    1 December 2015 18: 10
    Quote: lopvlad
    Relax. World War III is very close

    Well, if you’re a fascist... excuse me - I’m a little too hard-pressed - then yes, perhaps... history doesn’t teach them... uh...
  95. -1
    1 December 2015 18: 11
    I look at these “ministers” of defense and can’t believe that this is all happening to them in reality and in a serious way. Calling them to become men is apparently already useless. It’s a shame to fight with them like that!
  96. -1
    1 December 2015 18: 13
    The S-400 already knows who is flying where.
  97. +1
    1 December 2015 18: 17
    You shouldn’t pick on the words of this Frau, she’s just a talker like Psaki. Only military advisers can give a normal answer.
    It seems they want to fly from Turkish territory, I hope you are smart enough to rein them in.
  98. 0
    1 December 2015 18: 18
    Well then it’s our turn to talk about falling NATO planes!
  99. +1
    1 December 2015 18: 20
    Quote: Belousov
    Comrades! Here it’s good to talk about the fact that “permissions for takeoff are issued in the S-400 control booth,” etc. But the question is different. Will our leadership have enough stuff in its pants to really shoot down those same Germans? Technically, we can land anyone, this fact is not even discussed. But will there be the political will of the leadership for this? Or will they make a deal with their “partners” again? And in the end, the coalition will fly wherever it wants and Syria will lose the eastern oil-bearing provinces? I'm afraid that they will bargain and cave in...

    perhaps they will bargain, but on what terms it could be Ukraine, for example, or maybe not, depending on what V.V. Putin agreed on with the bastard in Paris
  100. Darkoff
    +1
    1 December 2015 18: 25
    How are we going to send them away after we deal with Daesh?
    I mean that they can all switch to Assad.
    1. +1
      1 December 2015 21: 13
      Quote: DarkOFF
      How are we going to send them away after we deal with Daesh?
      I mean that they can all switch to Assad.

      And so the hell will you send them out, they send in troops to create their own zone of influence

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