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"Ruslans" will fly with Russian engines

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Replacing the Ukrainian engines installed on the An-2019, the world's largest transport aircraft, with Russian ones, should begin to 124. Rossiyskaya Gazeta with reference to Interfax-AVN.


"Ruslans" will fly with Russian engines


“Instead of Ukrainian D-18T, transport workers will equip them with Russian-made engines. Today, the NK-32 2 series engine, which was once designed for the White Swan - a strategic long-range bomber Tu-160, is considered as the base model, the agency said.

The advantage of this particular engine is the turbine, capable of withstanding high-temperature mode for a long time.

According to the Deputy General Designer of the developer company (OAO Kuznetsov) Anton Shatsky, “despite the tight deadlines and a number of technological difficulties, the task is completely solved.”

He clarified that one of the main problems is “the need to fit Russian engines into the dimensions of the compartments where the D-18T were installed”.

Shatsky also noted that "Russian turbines have a maximum take-off thrust of 24 tons, which is more than the Ukrainian ones."

According to the information of “RG”, 26 “Ruslans” are currently being operated in the Russian Federation of Space Forces.
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Vladimir Song / RIA News www.ria.ru
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  1. cniza
    cniza 30 November 2015 17: 16
    +24
    Shatsky also noted that "Russian turbines have a maximum take-off thrust of 24 tons, which is more than the Ukrainian ones."


    Great news, God forbid, do not stop.
    1. Sterlya
      Sterlya 30 November 2015 17: 23
      +4
      So there were problems with the release of engines for the Tu-160?
      It seems to be connected with the shoulder blades. Something like the production technology was lost. I’m glad if they solved the problem. Although how old. One could have time to come up with a new one.
      1. opus
        opus 30 November 2015 18: 01
        +10
        Quote: Sterlya
        Something like the production technology was lost

        ?
        The plot for assembling models of the blades in the model block



        Compressor blade profile control.

        Calcination of ceramic forms of the blades in an electric furnace.



        The final assembly workshop of aircraft gas turbine engines.
        1. crazyrom
          crazyrom 30 November 2015 19: 32
          +1
          They would still have to leave the afterburner, like on the very White Swans, in general, it will turn out cool. Taking off meters with 500 probably.
          1. Bkmz
            Bkmz 30 November 2015 20: 37
            +11
            The wings will fly away, but the fuselage will remain.
    2. Ruslan
      Ruslan 30 November 2015 17: 25
      +10
      eh, the namesake himself would be launched into the series again! I think more, about 50, will not hurt.
      1. Yuri from Volgograd
        Yuri from Volgograd 30 November 2015 17: 47
        -1
        Quote: ruslan
        By 2019, the replacement of Ukrainian engines installed on the world's largest transport aircraft An-124 should begin

        But shaw, An-224 is not a plane or is it not larger?
        Forgot about Mriya, but there is one.
        1. neri73-r
          neri73-r 30 November 2015 21: 15
          +4
          Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
          Quote: ruslan
          By 2019, the replacement of Ukrainian engines installed on the world's largest transport aircraft An-124 should begin

          But shaw, An-224 is not a plane or is it not larger?
          Forgot about Mriya, but there is one.

          Mriya (An-224) was not built in series, only two copies were built, as far as I remember, one flies and belongs to Ukraine. Therefore, they do not remember! hi
          1. Yuri from Volgograd
            Yuri from Volgograd 1 December 2015 00: 15
            -3
            Quote: neri73-r
            Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
            Quote: ruslan
            By 2019, the replacement of Ukrainian engines installed on the world's largest transport aircraft An-124 should begin

            But shaw, An-224 is not a plane or is it not larger?
            Forgot about Mriya, but there is one.

            Mriya (An-224) was not built in series, only two copies were built, as far as I remember, one flies and belongs to Ukraine. Therefore, they do not remember! hi

            And then what? An-224 is not a plane or is it not larger? Or is he not?
            What did you want to say something ???
            1. Anatole
              Anatole 1 December 2015 05: 22
              0
              Are there larger mass-produced aircraft? An-225 was created on the basis of 124, as a piece product for a specific project. The engine is the same D18T, in fact the topic is in the article about the NK32 engines, and not about the replica of the "largest" you pulled out, which fully corresponds to reality. An-225 was created for "Buran", the second was not even completed. Your KO thrust is incomprehensible. I hope you won't read about airships on Wikipedia, but they are generally the owners of "The largest aircraft". wassat
              1. Yuri from Volgograd
                Yuri from Volgograd 1 December 2015 07: 29
                -3
                Quote: Anatole
                Are there larger mass-produced aircraft? An-225 was created on the basis of 124, as a piece product for a specific project. The engine is the same D18T, in fact the topic is in the article about the NK32 engines, and not about the replica of the "largest" you pulled out, which fully corresponds to reality. An-225 was created for "Buran", the second was not even completed. Your KO thrust is incomprehensible. I hope you won't read about airships on Wikipedia, but they are generally the owners of "The largest aircraft". wassat

                You are not a smart person.
                How did you see lunges? Just a statement of fact?
                Blindness will not make you smarter, 224 (made in the USSR for a minute I remember, try not to forget) will not erase.
                He is real, he flies, he is bigger.
                Throw your minus, it will almost certainly solve the problem)
      2. SPACE
        SPACE 30 November 2015 17: 57
        +1
        A chic An-124 aircraft, to make a strategic super bomber based on it, equipped with an aiming system, powerful electronic warfare and defensive laser weapons.
      3. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 November 2015 18: 13
        0
        Thanks to the Khokhlozhitezh, serial An 124 in our country will no longer be issued.
        1. niki233
          niki233 30 November 2015 18: 57
          +5
          Quote: Vadim237
          Thanks to the Khokhlozhitezh, serial An 124 in our country will no longer be issued.

          you are mistaken will be released on the Google aviaar to help
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 30 November 2015 22: 49
            +1
            The An 124 Aviostar will not be mass-produced, no contracts have been signed with anyone, no one has allocated money for it, and after the events in Ukraine 2014 they put an end to this project - the only thing the enterprise will do with the An 124 is to upgrade it.
            1. Days
              Days 9 July 2018 09: 25
              0
              Meanwhile, in 2018, with the re-release of the An-124, everything is closer to reality: https://ru.rt.com/b50t
    3. wow
      wow 30 November 2015 17: 58
      +2
      And it is easier to "remove" the afterburner with an adjustable jet nozzle than to "attach" it all. An example of this is the D-30KP DTRD installed on the Il-76 is a complete analogue of the engine mounted on the MiG-31 (with a prechamber and RS, respectively). So there is experience.
    4. vodolaz
      vodolaz 30 November 2015 18: 09
      +3
      And Ukrainian politicians are shouting that they will sell their engines around the world. Who has bothered you before? And who needs them? There are enough of them.
      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 30 November 2015 18: 36
        0
        Quote: vodolaz
        And Ukrainian politicians are shouting that they will sell their engines around the world. Who has bothered you before? And who needs them? There are enough of them.

        And why the hell do they need these Ukrainians did not ask anyone? laughing Offended priydurki!
    5. Mitek
      Mitek 30 November 2015 18: 21
      +11
      Quote: cniza
      Shatsky also noted that "Russian turbines have a maximum take-off thrust of 24 tons, which is more than the Ukrainian ones."


      Great news, God forbid, do not stop.

      Zadolbali nonsense to write and rewrite. NO Ukrainian engines and never was! There are Soviet. And 404 has nothing to do with it.
      1. Manul
        Manul 1 December 2015 14: 34
        -1
        Quote: Mitek
        NO Ukrainian engines and never was! There are Soviet. And 404 has nothing to do with it.

        Because cotton was Soviet, this does not make it non-Uzbek now.
    6. Tor5
      Tor5 30 November 2015 19: 33
      0
      I want to believe that the process will go faster than planned.
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    8. zgd_se_1955
      zgd_se_1955 1 December 2015 03: 57
      0
      It's time to show what we can do !!
  2. Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 30 November 2015 17: 17
    +9
    The afterburner will be removed and the engine will become smaller in size.
    1. lelikas
      lelikas 30 November 2015 17: 23
      +2
      Quote: Lt. air force reserve
      The afterburner will be removed and the engine will become smaller in size.

      And what about the fuel consumption of ours?
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 30 November 2015 17: 28
        +4
        Quote: lelikas
        And what about the fuel consumption of ours?

        D-18T:
        Fuel consumption with a thrust of 5400-4800 kgf Ce (Н 36100 М-0.75 МСА + 10) 0.568-0.625 g / kg * h
        Specific fuel consumption, kg / kgf · h (kg / H · h) - 0,34 (0,0347)
        NK-32:
        Specific fuel consumption:
        (supersonic) 1.70 kg / (kgf / h)
        (subsonic): 0.72-0.73 kg / (kgf / h)
        The data on the NK-32 engine belong to the first modification, the series 2 is indicated in the article, the engines of the second series are probably more economical.
        http://www.motorsich.com/rus/products/aircraft/tde/d-18t
        http://www.airforce.ru/aircraft/tupolev/tu-160/book/page_1_3.htm
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        2. gjv
          gjv 30 November 2015 17: 53
          +2
          Quote: Lt. air force reserve
          engines of the second series are probably more economical.

          Quote: PROXOR
          NK-32 only in afterburner give out 25 tons of traction, and so the traction of NK-32 is 14 tons. For comparison, the D-18T on the takeoff pulls 23,4, and cruising 4,8 tons. So most likely the engine will go without alterations.

          The management of OJSC Kuznetsov reported only:
          Today, there is a task to prepare proposals on the prospects of long-range aviation for 2017-2018. In this direction, we are considering the NK-32 of the second stage - an engine that will allow us to reach traction up to 30 tons.

          On economy there were no messages.
    2. sisa29
      sisa29 30 November 2015 17: 23
      +21
      And they will remove a dozen effective managers; it will become less in price
      1. beer-youk
        beer-youk 30 November 2015 17: 35
        +6
        And if fifty of the most "efficiently defective", it will be generally penny (in comparison with the budget) !!!
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      3. gjv
        gjv 1 December 2015 10: 25
        +2
        Quote: sisa29
        And they will remove a dozen effective managers; it will become less in price

        Everything is "inflation". So PS-90A in 2013 cost 49,5 million rubles, and in 2015 already 263,8 million rubles. Rise in price by 5,3 times in two years! For example, the exchange rate has changed only 2,02 times. Have workers' wages changed? Hardly. This is what "effective" managers do!
    3. PROXOR
      PROXOR 30 November 2015 17: 27
      +3
      Where to put it there? NK-32 only in afterburner give out 25 tons of traction, and so the traction of NK-32 is 14 tons. For comparison, the D-18T on the takeoff pulls 23,4, and cruising 4,8 tons. So most likely the engine will go without alterations.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 30 November 2015 17: 51
        0
        Most likely, NK 56, and not 32 will be put on An 124.
        1. gjv
          gjv 30 November 2015 18: 01
          +3
          Quote: Vadim237
          NK 56, not 32 will be bet on An 124

          NK-56 with a thrust of 18000/3530 kgf instead of the D-18T with a thrust of 23430/4860 ?! Aren't you kidding ?!
          What (how many tons) and where (how far) will the An-124 take away with such a decrease in traction?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 30 November 2015 18: 10
            0
            Real TTX NK 56 we do not know.
  3. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 30 November 2015 17: 23
    +6
    Thank God that at least a solution has been outlined for the Ruslanov engines! And it was somehow sad to read information about the Ukrainian engines of these aircraft! Airplanes are real horses with a capital letter. Russia is the leader of heavy trucks!
    1. I doubt it
      I doubt it 30 November 2015 17: 38
      +13
      The USSR is the leader of heavy trucks. Was ...
      And all the achievements of liberal-market-democratic Russia are the cessation of production of the An-124-100 and the dismantling of technological equipment in 2004. NOT NEEDED! USE!
  4. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 30 November 2015 17: 23
    +6
    Not an easy task, but increased take-off thrust and a long high-temperature regime - a reserve for flights with overload. 26 for 4 engines, 16 swans for 4 already issue two hundred a year, and this is the cost and other.
  5. Platon
    Platon 30 November 2015 17: 25
    +1
    Maybe it’s easier to develop Perm PD-30?
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 30 November 2015 17: 52
      0
      So they developed NK 65, but now they switched to NK 56.
  6. PQ-18
    PQ-18 30 November 2015 17: 27
    +5
    It looks like, apart from the Ruslans, they plan to produce, produce, produce Tu-160s ...
  7. Altona
    Altona 30 November 2015 17: 27
    +5
    Democracy always seeks to destroy high-tech industries in the beginning, as it was in the Baltics, and so it will be with Antonov in Ukraine ...
  8. NEXUS
    NEXUS 30 November 2015 17: 29
    +7
    Hmm, if the engines from Swan are put on Ruslan, will he become supersonic? laughing But seriously, this news may mean that these engines will be released in a modernized form and in large batches, if everything goes well and they are adapted for Ruslana ...
    1. Altona
      Altona 30 November 2015 17: 54
      +1
      Quote: NEXUS
      these engines will be produced in a modernized form and in large batches

      -----------------------
      Aircraft engines, they are not only for aircraft ... They are also used in equipment for pumping gas ...
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      2. gjv
        gjv 1 December 2015 14: 54
        0
        Quote: Altona
        Aircraft engines, they are not only for aircraft ... They are also used in equipment for pumping gas ...

        Ground-based options are in some ways slightly different from aircraft engines, as they don’t have to fly ...
        Take a look, for example, the NK-93 aircraft engine and the NK-38ST, developed as it were based on it, for gas pumping units. Where is the sky, where is the earth immediately visible ...
  9. Flinky
    Flinky 30 November 2015 17: 30
    +3
    Something I thought that the largest in the world is "Mriya" ...
    1. Kubyanka
      Kubyanka 30 November 2015 17: 35
      +5
      ... which is singular.
    2. VadimSt
      VadimSt 30 November 2015 17: 41
      +4
      It exists in a single copy and, as they say on ukrosvalka, "the pride of the Ukrainian nation." It seems that this "Mriya" was developed and built exclusively by citizens of the USSR with a filled-in column in their passport, nationality - "Svidomo Ukrainian". I hope that the people of Ukraine will understand that the diagnosis "Svidomo ukrainets" is worse than the bean plague!
    3. I doubt it
      I doubt it 30 November 2015 17: 41
      +2
      Thought correctly. There were only two of them. Both in Ukraine. The second was collected after the collapse of the USSR. But they were not brought to the ready state.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 30 November 2015 17: 58
        +8
        Quote: I doubt it
        Thought correctly. There were only two of them. Both in Ukraine. The second was collected after the collapse of the USSR. But they were not brought to the ready state.

        They didn't even collect it. Here it is - the Ukrainian "Mriya":

        Yaka country - taka and mriya.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 30 November 2015 17: 44
      +5
      Quote: Flinky
      Something I thought that the largest in the world is "Mriya" ...

      The largest one is the largest, but only Ruslan is a serial machine, and Mriya (AN-225) is in a single copy. And no one will launch it in a series. In addition, as far as I know, Ruslans have modernized and their load capacity has been increased.
  10. midashko
    midashko 30 November 2015 17: 31
    +4
    The news is good, but so far more from the field of dreams and intentions. That's when they put new engines on airplanes, then you can be proud and rejoice. One thing is said, costs are three more, terms are two, etc. I haven’t heard anything about launches from the new cosmodrome, about Armata’s arrival in the troops either.
    Alas, I'm such a pessimist.
  11. Gunther
    Gunther 30 November 2015 17: 33
    0
    Yes, they planted a pig with the Ukrainian D-18T for us, well, yes, there is a silver lining, we will supply the domestic NK-32 engine of the second series.
  12. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 30 November 2015 17: 36
    +1
    Another nail in the coffin lid of the Usrai industry. God will let us bury everything by summer. And the agro-industrial complex and sextourism will remain. With the next change "brothers and sisters of a friendly country")))
    1. andr327
      andr327 30 November 2015 17: 50
      +2
      Well, don’t bury so quickly, there’s still stealing and stealing ...
  13. Wedmak
    Wedmak 30 November 2015 17: 44
    +3
    the need to fit Russian engines into the dimensions of the compartments where the D-18T was installed

    What compartments are we talking about? The engines on the pylons are hanging!
  14. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 30 November 2015 17: 45
    +2
    The diameter of the D-18T is 2300mm.
    Diameter NK-32 - 1780mm.
    NK-32 will enter the D-18 engine nacelle for sure, which will not work in the opposite case. There should be no difficulty in fitting our engine into Ukrainian dimensions.
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 30 November 2015 18: 08
      0
      And ours is 3m longer.
  15. BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 30 November 2015 17: 47
    +1
    The Boeing 747-8F is better in performance, and the engines are more interesting there. Why do not they want to try the PD-30 instead of the NK-32?
  16. Lenin
    Lenin 30 November 2015 17: 58
    +1
    Нand with noise what, will they make less noise? At one time, I remember the West pulled on us very strongly that they say Russian engines are good for everyone, but they are noisier than Westerners.
  17. An64
    An64 30 November 2015 18: 01
    +2
    The question is a bit amateurish - and who is the holder of the RCV on the An-124? Who has the copyright? When replacing the engines, will it still be the An-124 or another aircraft?
    This is not an idle question, because we remember the recent history of the repair of Bulgarian MiGs in Poland - our DGC said that in this case it would remove the supervision and warranty service from them.
    1. BaLaLaykin
      BaLaLaykin 30 November 2015 18: 03
      +1
      since July of this year, nothing has to be agreed with Antonov on the design changes; the law has entered into force.
      http://www.ato.ru/content/aviapromu-rf-razvyazali-ruki hi
    2. AID.S
      AID.S 30 November 2015 18: 16
      0
      Ukraine and guarantees are two things incompatible ...
  18. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 30 November 2015 18: 10
    +1
    How much we have to recreate again! In the days of the USSR there was a division
    labor and powerful cooperation, including with the CMEA countries, and now have to
    spin alone, which devours resources and greatly affects the cost
    products.
  19. Serg81
    Serg81 30 November 2015 19: 11
    +1
    I personally don’t understand why to reinvent the wheel, in Russia there are working and faulty D-18T engines to take how to copy China a little shaman there, like a new, innovative one, etc. and pass off as ours, especially half of the details in Russia are being done. The new engine is good for the future, and now you can launch this one in a series in Ufa and do exactly the same with Ruslan, especially since he is going to Ulyanovsk. And then, as in a song, who b ... where b ... prove
  20. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 30 November 2015 19: 46
    +2
    It will be a joke if we sell these engines to Ukraine for their Ruslanov
    1. Serg81
      Serg81 30 November 2015 20: 34
      0
      They can’t assemble RUSLANA, half of them ate no more than Russian-made components, and they themselves can’t produce them.
  21. pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 30 November 2015 20: 35
    +7
    It’s joyful and sad to read this information.
    It’s joyful that at last a part of your work was implemented in the series, it’s sad, because the full range of scientific research and bench tests on the development of thermal protection of thermally stressed parts of prototypes of the engine, the NK-32 series 2 engine was performed back in 1986-1988 at KNPO " Labor ”to them. Kuznetsova.
    Personally, I have a gratitude on my track record (with a monetary prize) for the successful conduct of bench tests, which from the first rolling showed a 5-fold increase in bench hours compared to existing technologies.
    Well enough about the sad.
    Dear specialists from Minsk, Moscow, Kuibyshev, I cordially congratulate you on this event!
    By the way, for members of the forum who believe that the pilot shit is pushing, I recommend that I first read my monograph “Heat-Shielding Coatings Based on ZO2”, which was published in Minsk in 1998 at the Research Institute of PM with OP.
    By the way, one of the members of the forum asked about problems with turbine blades. Yes, there were problems, but they were solved, on the whole, on the assessments of “good +” and “good ++” (they simply did not manage to implement a number of super technologies on working blades - they closed the project from the very top). Blocks of nozzle blades for SU-27 delivered the most trouble. But they were resolved. "Saturn" (Lytkarinsky) was shown in detail where the manufacturers made a marriage. A number of technological solutions for the thermal protection of turbine blades and combustion chambers developed during R&D for the Kuznetsovsky engine (not all copyright and thermal protection patents only have about 30 pieces) are described in Copyright certificates No. 1603887, No. 1603819, No. 1736119.
  22. Orionvit
    Orionvit 30 November 2015 21: 23
    +1
    Quote: Sterlya
    Quote: vodolaz
    And Ukrainian politicians are shouting that they will sell their engines around the world. Who has bothered you before? And who needs them? There are enough of them.

    And why the hell do they need these Ukrainians did not ask anyone? laughing Offended priydurki!

    First of all, Ukrainian politicians prohibited Motor Sich from supplying engines to Russia (this is 80% of the plant's production), as a result of which the huge aircraft plant almost became. They thought of us. To serve Russia, and as a result, Russia itself produces helicopter and rocket and aircraft engines. And twenty thousand highly qualified specialists were left without work, and they say a huge "thanks to the democratic-European government of Ukraine." These are the same people who, instead of dancing on the Maidan, created high-tech aircraft engines with their work and mind. Well, now families have nothing to feed, they are not trained in how to ride, but only know how to work well. And those same idiots ruined a huge aircraft factory, left thousands of specialists unemployed, lost one billion hryvnia to the budget, and are happy. Definitely gimmicks.
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  24. Engineer
    Engineer 1 December 2015 08: 34
    +1
    It will be the PD-30 engine

  25. kovalev2015
    kovalev2015 1 December 2015 09: 04
    0
    It is necessary to restore our aviation industry. Reduce purchases of airbuses and Boeing and increase the fleet of sup jets and silt 96
  26. azesm
    azesm 1 December 2015 11: 42
    0
    First, let your planes and helicopters stop falling from the sky in peacetime!
    http://narodedin.com/post/chislo-zhertv-krushenija-mi-8-v-krasnojarskom-krae-dos
    tiglo-12-chelovek /