Logic Davutoglu: We will not apologize to Russia, we will expect a review of the prohibitive measures from Russia ...

A few days after the Turkish Air Force attacked the Russian Su-24, NATO finally decided on the official position on this issue. However, the “official position” touched, for some reason, not NATO itself, but its “allies”. The Secretary General of the North Atlantic military bloc, Jens Stoltenberg, stated that "all NATO allies unanimously supported Turkey’s right to defend its borders." It is reported by the news agency Reuters. And how is the defense of the Turkish borders connected with the invasion of the Turkish Air Force into the airspace of another state without the appropriate sanctions of the UN Security Council and the permission of the authorities of this state? ..

Stoltenberg said the need to develop some kind of mechanism that would avoid incidents like the one that happened to the Russian bomber, shot down by fighter-interceptors of the Turkish Air Force. Apparently, the mechanism of exchange of flight data, coordination with the so-called “American coalition”, the presence of a special communication line, established long before the attack on the Su-24 between Moscow and Ankara, is not such a mechanism, according to the NATO Secretary General. Well, if they are not, then let C-400 “Triumph” become such a mechanism ...

Meanwhile, Turkish Prime Minister Davutoglu once again stated that Ankara is not going to bring any apologies to Russia. At the same time, Davutoglu speaks of "the hope of revising the measures taken by Russia against Turkey in connection with the incident with Su-24." The logic of the Turkish authorities, apparently, is amazing ...

It should be noted that Syrian President Bashar Asad said that Syrian intelligence has data on the increase in the funding of terrorist groups from a number of foreign countries. During the meeting with the representative of the Iranian authorities in Damascus, Assad noted that "some countries hostile to Syria are trying to escalate the situation, seeing that the Syrian army liberates more and more new territories with the support of Russia and Iran." The representative of the Iranian authorities, writes SANA He promised that Iran will continue to support Syria in its "fateful opposition to terrorists."

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[Vend]

Logic Davutoglu: We will not apologize to Russia, we are looking forward to revising the prohibition measures from Russia

Inadequate for himself. Looks like a mattress brain disease is contagious. Transmitted through a handshake

[sannych]

What about us? Ukraine and Turkey are twin brothers.

[jjj]

In Ukraine, things stalled, and the West urgently activated the Turkish option to contain Russia

[cniza]

Quote: jjj

In Ukraine, things stalled, and the West urgently activated the Turkish option to contain Russia

Not there so if only to ruin Russia. The USA has a dream to make a hostile zone around Russia with constant conflicts and sluggish hostilities.

[good7]

Actually, there "Turkey" collected money in special stalls to finance the war in Chechnya

[sherp2015]

Quote: good7

Actually, there "Turkey" collected money in special stalls to finance the war in Chechnya

90%, Turkish businessmen are informants of special services including MIT

[brat]

among different nationalities there are good and bad. but Turks are Turks they are corrupt.

[Reserve officer]

"Davutoglu talks about hope for a review of the measures taken by Russia against Turkey in connection with the incident with the Su-24"

Of course there will be a revision of measures. Only in the direction of tightening, this all goes.
Turkey is something very similar to the insolent man who trampled the floor with dirty boots and wants the landlord to clean these boots himself. But somehow he doesn’t think that he can tear off his legs with his boots.

[ramzes1776]

First, we will bring down a couple of Turkish letaks over Syria, and then maybe we will think about easing economic sanctions and if we promise not to fly into Syrian territory

[Werterex]

Cheap forwarding? Or...

[Alexey Boukin]

Quote: cniza

Logic Davutoglu: We will not apologize to Russia, we will expect a review of the prohibitive measures from Russia ...

Something of logic in this statement is not visible. But impudence and hopes for impunity are obvious!

[KAV]

Well, I must say, the Turk turned out to be more decisive than his "brothers". Although ... Kakli is also not bastard ... shooting down a passenger plane ...
Both those and others acted stealthily! Behind ... For obviously unarmed target ...

[brat]

don't be angry.

[Rostov Papa]

The parable of the stupid Turkish boy.

- Hey boy, come here.
- What for?
- Go get the candy.
- Thank.
- Do you want another one?
- Want.
- See the uncle who drives the bandits?
- I see.
- Take the stone, stand on the sidelines, and when the uncle runs after you to get the bandit - throw a stone at his head - do you get it?
- I’ll get it.
- Well done, do it - I'll give another candy.
- A kilogram.
- What is a kilogram?
- Candy.
- Wow, you tomboy!
- Half ahead.
- Okay, hold a pound, the rest later.
- And if the uncle beat me?
“He won’t beat, good uncle.”
- And if the uncle gets angry?
“You say you defended yourself.”
- And if he does not believe?
- And here we will confirm.
- And you do not deceive?
- Honestly!
- Why is this necessary?
- Do it - you will see.
The boy runs to take a position.
Uncle eats candy:
- Sorry for the kid. He was a good kid. Only very stupid.

[brat]

this boy rules in Turkey, and having matured has learned a lot and sees himself as the ruler of the Ottoman Empire, in which his shaitans will put things in order against which the whole rational world and all religions rally.

[Nosgoth]

Captain Evidence Are you this?

[Proxima]

Let's see who will apologize to whom now, when the S-400 "Triumph" with a clear conscience crashes some NATO plane!

[Dryuya2]

direct transfer
Speeches by leaders of countries participating in the UN Climate Conference

[Baikonur]

Quote: Logic of Davutoglu:

We will not apologize to Russia, we are looking forward to revising the prohibition measures from Russia ...

Again, about a headshot:
- I will not apologize, but reconsider your attitude towards me! Actually, I'm good! In vain offended!

[Scoun]

Quote: Dryuya2

Speeches by leaders of countries participating in the UN Climate Conference

+ thanks!
Very revealing speeches ... who is talking about what .. Obamka about again about democracy ... and the GDP is just on the topic and with specific proposals ... damn not the UN, but a farce, I hope after the break some of the "leaders" will correct their speeches and delete the words in support of "democracy" and "freedom".

[BARKHAN]

President of Lithuania Grybauskaite- "The experience of Lithuania shows that there is no contradiction between the economic growth and environmental protection ... Our emissions have decreased by 25% in the last 56 years and our GDP growth has increased by 30%, so there is no contradiction ... "

Well, due to what did they get GDP growth there? If a huge number of sources speak of a complete collapse of industry ...
Well, the emission level was reduced precisely for the same reason ... Although it is possible, as an option, to consider the outflow of Lithuanian citizens ... there is no one to fart in the air, but the emission level has decreased by 56% ...

[73bor]

So they don’t fly. You see how simple it was, you had to put the S-300 in Syria three years ago, and how many conversations it was!

[NEXUS]

Quote: Proxima

Let's see who will apologize to whom now, when the S-400 "Triumph" with a clear conscience crashes some NATO plane!

It’s not even a matter of "whether it will fail or not" ... look deeper. After the sabotage with our bomber, Turkey ensured a guaranteed permanent presence for many years of our military in the Mediterranean, this time, as well as bases with the Russian military on the territory Syria, even after the end of the anti-terrorist operation, turned from temporary to permanent.

[72jora72]

It’s not even a matter of "whether it will fail or not" ... look deeper. After the sabotage with our bomber, Turkey ensured a guaranteed permanent presence for many years of our military in the Mediterranean, this time, as well as bases with the Russian military on the territory Syria, even after the end of the anti-terrorist operation, turned from temporary to permanent.

Do you mean that if there were no SU-24 then it would have to be invented?

[Sterlya]

Quote: Proxima

Let's see who will apologize to whom now, when the S-400 "Triumph" with a clear conscience crashes some NATO plane!

It will be a lot of fun . But it seems to be.

[svetoruss]

By inciting Turkey to conflict with Russia, the United States wins anyway. Firstly, because of the rupture of the Turkish-Russian economic relations, and secondly, pushing Russia to help in solving the Kurdish issue, in order to blame the collapse of Turkey on us ... as they say, "and here they are."

[Al_oriso]

The joke is that Russia just does not lose much from the severance of economic relations. May gain more. Too much money went to Turkey forever. And how many jobs will be vacant.
The gas pipe is only a big loss, but I think that our government has calculated all this.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Al_oriso

The joke is that Russia just does not lose much from the severance of economic relations. May gain more. Too much money went to Turkey forever. And how many jobs will be vacant.
The gas pipe is only a big loss, but I think that our government has calculated all this.

I agree, Turkey is beneficial only as a buyer of gas.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Al_oriso

The joke is that Russia just does not lose much from the severance of economic relations. May gain more. Too much money went to Turkey forever. And how many jobs will be vacant.
The gas pipe is only a big loss, but I think that our government has calculated all this.

But who has these jobs? Do you think the Russians will go? I doubt it ... Rather, the chebureks will break (Tajiks, Uzbeks) or Ukrainians with Moldovans.

But with what to replace vegetables \ fruits, textiles? Domestic, unfortunately, is more expensive.

[SibSlavRus]

If a harsh attitude towards the Ottomans is already planned, then the issue of diplomatic relations is still worth considering in the context of the Turkish leadership’s loyalty to international terrorist organizations banned in the Russian Federation.
Half measures are inappropriate here, as well as "playing to the public".

[ProCl]

Probably, while our tourists are still there, there will be no tough measures ..

[sssla]

Quote: sannych

What about us? Ukraine and Turkey are twin brothers.

"Official position" NATO - Secretary General of the North Atlantic military bloc Jens Stoltenberg stated that "all NATO allies unanimously supported Turkey's right to defend its borders."

And what do you think that the euro will be dyed pants in brown ??? GDP is a reasonable person, said one phrase - "If a fight is inevitable, then hit first" - she is the right BUT, a politician and a geopolitician on a global scale, these are not quite comparable to a politician "yard" thing. I will even say this (IMHO) that after of this expression about "Hit first", the mattresses took the words of the Russian president literally and struck first! The first domino bone fell! We are waiting for a chain reaction of domino bones, will it work?

[SAXA.SHURA]

Soon there will be nothing to smile when Putin knocks all your teeth out.

[oleg-gr]

Expect. Instead of a review, there will be something ... And do not say that you were not warned. GDP has given a chance for reconciliation. Not used.

[cniza]

Quote: oleg-gr

Expect. Instead of a review, there will be something ... And do not say that you were not warned. GDP has given a chance for reconciliation. Not used.

They simply overestimated their capabilities, and now they realized that they would have to answer not childishly.

[Denis Obukhov]

The behavior of Turkish leaders destroys the last hope for their decency.

[Asadullah]

The behavior of Turkish leaders destroys their last hopes decency.

Do not make me laugh. And in general I’m fucking crazy, what are you talking about !!!? Don’t you see how preparations are proceeding in armed conflict? Words of some sort, logic, decency, hope .... in a normal person with cold brains, everything that happens gives out one mate in his thoughts. It must be feverishly prepared. Europe has already prepared, now compensation will be paid to Erdogan so that a new flow of refugees does not flood.

[B.T.V.]

Quote: Asadullah

Europe has already prepared, now compensation will be paid to Erdogan so that a new flow of refugees does not flood.

Erdogan will take 3 billion, and on the command "fas" from the State Department will organize a new stream of refugees. Betrayed once, betrayed twice.

[win]

Don’t you see how preparations are proceeding in armed conflict?

Here is a "bell" posted by the TV and radio company Zvezda http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201512011254-dv4c.htm

Moscow has two options in the event that Ankara closes the passage of the Russian ships through the Bosphorus and Dardanelles: to submit or to attract the Navy, which means the beginning of the war. This opinion was expressed by Anatoly Kuznetsov, editor-in-chief of the Sea News of Russia publishing house, in an interview with Zvezda television channel.

“There was a situation on the Bosphorus that could have been predicted for a long time: historically, Turkey has always tried to control it in its own interests, while violating international conventions. For example, the 1936 Montreux Convention states that the Bosporus and Dardanelles are international highways that do not belong to the jurisdiction of any country, there is a free shipping zone, ”said Kuznetsov.

“If Turkey closes the straits by its willful decision, Russia has two ways: the first is to obey and wait until they are allowed, but at the same time understand that they are violating international law, or to attract the Navy and move in opposition to the decisions of the Turks. But this means the beginning of hostilities, the beginning of the war. The Turks are well aware of what they have a significant lever of influence on Russia, therefore they will use this situation, ”the expert summarizes.

In the Bosphorus Strait, Turkey makes it difficult for Russian ships to pass, dozens of them are forced to drop anchors and wait hours for their turn. Official explanations of this situation from the Turkish authorities have not yet been received.

[79807420129]

The cynicism is simply amazing, they hope to sit behind the backs of a nigga and NATO. Well, all the words have been said, we are waiting for the development of events.

[Denis Obukhov]

Since Turkey does not want to admit its guilt that it shot down a Russian plane for no reason, thus Turkish aircraft are a potential threat to Russian aviation in Syria. And thus, the very unlawful presence of Turkish aircraft in Syria already poses a mortal threat to Russian aviation and ground services, and these Turkish aircraft must be immediately destroyed. This is not a decision of Russia but a forced measure to which Turkey forced it. By not pleading guilty and promising to continue to shoot down Russian planes, Turkey is forcing Russia to destroy Turkish military planes and that’s fair. Turkey made this choice itself. And Turkey’s presence in the NATO bloc will not help her. Very vainly they touched Russia.

[Proxima]

From the Turkish side - this is of course the top of go .otism! With your own hands (for the sake of KOMU-TO), dig a grave for yourself, political, economic, financial ...

[atalef]

Quote: Proxima

From the Turkish side - this is of course the top of go .otism! With your own hands (for the sake of KOMU-TO), dig a grave for yourself, political, economic, financial ...

Lavrov would say
Turks b ....

[vorobey]

Quote: atalef

Lavrov would say the Turks b ....

did he really say that? in Russia, remember in the old days the Turks called Turks .. hello Sanya ..

[atalef]

Quote: vorobey

Quote: atalef

Lavrov would say the Turks b ....

did he really say that? in Russia, remember in the old days the Turks called Turks .. hello Sanya ..

That's for sure, as everyone missed this moment
Hey . sled!

[beer-youk]

In light of recent events, I believe that the very existence of the Turkish Air Force is unnatural and, therefore, illegal.

[Asadullah]

Inadequate for himself

Nothing like this. The position is well thought out, now blackmail will begin (today) with a ground operation. This is a war with Turkey on Syrian soil. Moreover, I can notice that everyone who is being smashed by the Syrian military and our airborne forces today will go under the jurisdiction of the command of Turkish officers. The only question is whether Russia will manage to drag out time in order to somehow arm and unite the Kurds. For the decision on the invasion is ready, the question is when. Take a look at NG surprise. Turks believe that Russians do not dry out all January. And drunk at this time everywhere, and in the sea, and on land, and in the air. This is how simple puzzles stack up ....

[prostofily]

It seems that this time we choose a weapon on which to fight. The Turks may not have it.

[Ivan Slavyanin]

It's like in Ukraine: "Russia is the aggressor, but let it forgive the debt and let it give a discount!" And I thought only Banderlog are such stupid people!

[ProCl]

Not even stupidity, but cunning. And on the cunning ass, as we say, there is something with a screw ...

[Vikings]

Quote: Wend

Logic Davutoglu: We will not apologize to Russia, we are looking forward to revising the prohibition measures from Russia

Inadequate for himself. Looks like a mattress brain disease is contagious. Transmitted through a handshake

It is completely adequate and therefore dangerous. And we need to act in
from this!
Is it really not clear that the musician David fulfills the order
enta (United States, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, etc., etc.) ordered the repertoire of
to stomp Russia's weaknesses.

[Kent0001]

Maidan of the brain. You will not tell another.

[NordUral]

He and his own contagion is enough.

[Finches]

The fact of the matter is that Davutuglu will not lose anything from our sanctions, but can only gain! Some local shopkeeper in Istanbul will go bankrupt, but the Turkish authorities will not notice this ... But an ice ax in the back can notice and feel! Or Iskander over the Bosphorus ....

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Wend

Inadequate for himself. Looks like a mattress brain disease is contagious. Transmitted through a handshake

If so, then okay. But he’s in all seriousness. Apparently the Ottomans forgot Russian anger, they missed their knee-elbow, and Black Lord apparently cheered up, maybe even promised something. Sincerely.

[kizhe]

And it seemed to me that he was vouching with a piglet.

[Homo]

Quote: Wend

Transmitted through a handshake

Rather through the "back porch"! After all, the United States has all its allies!

[SAXA.SHURA]

This Double-headed, instead of the head of an ass, and that is not his, but black.

[GSH-18]

In the light of the events that have taken place, Nata and the states can shove their worn-out record: "Assad must go," in one place, flat and deeper!

[SAXA.SHURA]

Yesterday I watched an interview with Yakov Kedmi on Eaton TV, and so he says that the Turkish army is not a problem for the Israeli army, and Russia will not leave a stone unturned if the Turks decide to enter into a serious conflict and not a single NATO country will substitute your country for the goat-Erdogan.

[30BIS]

Previously, the Russians had the expression - "Are you a Turk?" .What did you mean, d.rak! !!!

[izya top]

gutted to him gutted?

[Decathlon]

"... The logic of the Turkish authorities, apparently, is amazing .."
Normal Ukrainian logic! Neighbor-aggressor, but eat a hunt! Both nations cannot get into a positive IQ ...

[guzik007]

Putin, in my opinion, needs to change tactics, namely: squeezing ISIS out into Lebanon -Let they directly threaten the borders of the European Union. Then we’ll see how NATO will sing.

[atalef]

Quote: guzik007

Putin, in my opinion, needs to change tactics, namely: squeezing ISIS into Lebanon

Well, actually, Lebanon does not border the European Union, but the idea is interesting. Hezbollah will like it
True, for this, ISIS must somehow be dragged from the east of Syria to the northwest

Quote: guzik007

Then we’ll see how NATO will sing.

Hezbollah first.

[atalef]

Quote: guzik007

Putin, in my opinion, needs to change tactics, namely: squeezing ISIS into Lebanon

Well, actually, Lebanon does not border the European Union, but the idea is interesting. Hezbollah will like it
True, for this, ISIS must somehow be dragged from the east of Syria to the northwest

Quote: guzik007

Then we’ll see how NATO will sing.

Hezbollah first.

[lukke]

Well, nice, I reserve the right to kick the first Turk who came to hand (leg) and I hope for his understanding)

[Tanker55]

If you don’t understand with your hand (legs), then we will add, if you do not mind?

[Decathlon]

Beat your head in the bridge of your nose! Well, or, according to "tomatoes", this is their weak point ...

[Asadullah]

Beat your head in the bridge of your nose!

You’ll teach hooligans that you’ll learn to beat, you need to stab with a knife in your left hand, in the upper part of the liver. Quickly and quietly leave.

[Decathlon]

Aha! And get caught under the article "Cruelty to animals" ?!

[Asadullah]

Aha! And get caught under the article "Cruelty to animals" ?!

Sorry, I had to supplement after quietly leaving, and hiding in a crowd of Kurds. By the way, the victim does not scream, does not gush blood, does not point a blue finger at your back, but takes another ten steps, the body goes limp, starts to stumble, even those around you might think that he is drunk, then he falls over face down, and then, the muezzin’s business, quickly bury it before the sun sets ....

[Tanker55]

I put the article in the last three lines. And about the apology: If the lackeys themselves can’t do this, then let their chocolate foreman apologize, and we'll see.

[Denis Obukhov]

Long time ago the shield was not nailed to the gates of Constantinople.

[Proxima]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

Long time ago the shield was not nailed to the gates of Constantinople.

I don’t know how about the shield, but the fact that Turkey is on the verge of losing its territorial integrity is a fact - they don’t joke about the Kurdish issue! I would also like to add the words "about the loss of sovereignty," but recent events have clearly shown that the Turks did not have any sovereignty!

[bad]

Logic Davutoglu: We will not apologize to Russia, we will expect a review of the prohibitive measures from Russia ...

..did not want to apologize for the good..probably it will be for the bad ... as if it would not be desirable, but the situation is getting hotter .. and the Turks are clearly encouraged and encouraged by "someone" .. mattress and British ears are visible ... sad ..the Turks, if something happens, will snatch an adult .. and there will be nothing for the instigators ..

[andr327]

Yes, not so simple.
Turkey and China, together with Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and Georgia, have established a consortium to transport goods from China to Europe, bypassing Russia. The corresponding agreement was signed on November 28 by representatives of major transport and logistics operators in Istanbul. It is reported by Interfax. Within the framework of this project, during 2016 it is planned to transport the first several thousand containers from China to Turkey and Europe through the territory of Georgia. The parties also plan to begin shipping goods through Ukraine to Northern and Eastern Europe next year.
So Russia has only two allies left ... It’s sad

[Asadullah]

So Russia has only two allies left ... It’s sad

There is nothing sad here. China has never been an ally and apparently will not. His interests are only in maintaining the status quo. That is, relations with Russia as a relationship not with a rival in political dominance. The PRC does not try on the shirt of the ruler of the world, or a certain messiah; it is engaged in strengthening and consolidating statehood, at the expense of the most important resource, the population. The projects you mentioned do not affect Russia in any way, but only expand Chinese logistics, the same agreements exist with all countries and not one at a time. For China, logistics channels are the same as pipelines for Russia. Which is very annoying. But so far there is no other way.

[Armored optimist]

In the meantime, they drove a couple of submarines to Moscow. Waiting for new provocations?

[bad]

Quote: iza top

gutted to him gutted?

..maybe so .. I am inclined to think that his egg was sniffing, and this is forever ..

[izya top]

Quote: bad

I am inclined to think that his egg has sniffed, and this is forever.

[engineer74]

From the statement of the NATO General Security Council, I understood one thing, only NATO countries have the right to protect their borders! We also need some kind of "exclusive" right to come up with, for example, to destroy space objects over our territory or to use biology against animal husbandry to protect domestic producers, and if we try to answer a similar answer, threaten with a "nuclear club"!
It was not we who, after all, began to build the world "according to concepts"!
IMHO

[as150505]

Ukrainian insanity is contagious. Now Urkogan carries the same nonsense as Piglet

[Styx]

Well, bastard, there are simply no words !! Our pilot, by the way, was very touchingly and solemnly handed over to the ambassador, and this is given out to the mountain !! There is no limit to cynicism, to disgust

[saltickov.]

LOAD is a word that exactly resembles.

[3vs]

So what do we want?
Countries, members of NATO and use this cheap oil.
Erdogan launders, Europeans buy, money doesn't smell!

[ASG7]

Turkey is trying hard to show the whole world and in particular Russia that it is ready to fight for its interests in Syria. but then he destroys his combat-ready generals. Or thinks that American generals will replace them. In general, all these dances of the Turkish leadership around their military ambitions are a fairy tale about a white bull, the main thing is that the cheeks do not burst and the bottom does not vomit.

[yuriy55]

Meanwhile, Turkish Prime Minister Davutoglu once again stated that Ankara is not going to bring any apologies to Russia. At the same time, Davutoglu speaks of "the hope of revising the measures taken by Russia against Turkey in connection with the incident with Su-24." The logic of the Turkish authorities, apparently, is amazing ...

Take off your glasses and fill your face ... at least something will come ... not through words, but through ... duley.

[drags33]

Turks - they are stubborn and stubborn ... There is a phrase - "Stubborn like a Turk". So caresses and courtesies are canceled. We need to wet them in the toilet (only competently, politely, correctly), maybe after that they will understand something ...

[Woodman]

And apologies are no longer needed, the flywheel is started and it cannot be stopped with empty words ... Yes, and excuses like demons (star-striped) haven't gotten anyway ... We will have to answer for the lives of our guys not with words ... and, I dare hope, not only the Turks will answer.

[f, hfrjlf, hf]

Well, enough to suppose, let’s bury Turkey at least from words to deed, well, not in the literal sense of course, but in the economic one so that our plane throat stuck Erdagan with it especially

[Ledyaev]

Nizhny Novgorod November 27. Market on the Moscow highway, Berezovskaya street. There is an oriental man with oranges for 80 rubles. The rest have 120. I ask "Why is it so cheap?" The answer pleased me: "Turkish, no one wants a brother." That would be so everywhere.

[Saratovets]

But I’m interested in the cruiser Moscow, our anti-submarine ships are accompanied, so that it wouldn’t work

[rf xnumx]

We won’t apologize to Russia, we are looking forward to a revision of the prohibition measures from Russia ... We’ll go through the woods

[veksha50]

When you hear such verbiage, you involuntarily start to get confused in the countries and their leaders ... Well, such as Ukraine and Turkey ... Turks, they are so swarthy, yes ??? And Ukrainians have pitchforks either in the head or in the loin part of the body sticking out, and the forelock is so delicious ???

Outwardly - different, but they say - well, just on one mov ...

[avva2012]

Reading Gogol N.V., you can find out that the Cossacks on the outskirts, like the Turks, as a result of numerous raids, were very actively mixed. Some brought slaves to themselves, while others dragged Turkish women in the form of wives. So that, quite, genetically related peoples.

[Oprychnik]

You can learn about this by reading "Quiet Don" by Sholokhov. In particular, about Grigory Melekhov. So we are quite genetically related peoples. And who had Tatars in their blood? I have. And you? So what?

[avva2012]

And what have the Tatars to do with it? Well, in part, they are also Turks. Although L. Gumilyov distinguishes "our" Tatars from theirs. I, personally, for our Tatars, who, including Bulgars, as well as Mongols. I personally have nothing to do with the Ottomans. N.V. Gogol does not write much about others.

[Dwarfik]

No need to trick either NATO or the Turks! Nato supports the Turks in protecting the borders, but the borders were not violated! Even the states have recognized it!

[avva2012]

"The world has moved." Here, for sure. S. King is a genius. I wonder which of the towers is flowing?

[Killj]

And what can be expected from the Muslim Brotherhood terrorist organization led by Erdogan, the sponsor of terrorism.

[Vyatich]

That's something like ...

[Ulysses]

Quote: Vyatich

That's something like ...

Already there are signatures.
I'm sorry to learn Perdogan.

[BaLaLaykin]

Putin stands
https://russian.rt.com/article/133697
The broadcast was interrupted, and then some kind of movement started, already the French bulldog was blown up from a place

[Gypsy girl]

We will not apologize, we are disappointed with sanctions, go nuts, which vinaigrette!
I will paraphrase: "Shoot down the plane and keep the relationship!"
It never happens, uncle.

[DOMINO100]

15: 17, 30 November 2015
Turkey and China agree to deliver goods to Europe bypassing Russia
Kazakhstan, Azerbaijan and Georgia also took part in the union. WELL HOW ARE YOU ANOTHER CHINA? ALL THEY FRIENDS OF RUSSIA! MAY ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE USA JUST WANTS TO SHARE THE WORLD WITH RUSSIA, ONLY RUSSIA DOESN’T WANT THIS. And in vain! SPECIFICALLY, GDP SHOULD BE DEPLOYED IN THE USA. JOIN NATO, AND THROW SUCH FRIENDS THROUGH THE BOARD AS CHINA.

[BaLaLaykin]

In Eastern Europe, it is shorter in this way, and in Western Europe by the NSR, China is promoting its interests. What is the crime?

MAY ALSO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE USA JUST WANTS TO SHARE THE WORLD WITH RUSSIA, ONLY RUSSIA DOESN’T WANT THIS. And in vain! SPECIFICALLY, GDP SHOULD BE DEPLOYED IN THE USA. JOIN NATO, AND THROW SUCH FRIENDS THROUGH THE BOARD AS CHINA.

complete BAD !!!

[BaLaLaykin]

minusers do not agree with what?

[Oleg1080]

Engage in Anglo-Saxon agitation in Britain and don’t go to Mother Russia !!!

[evgmiz]

Turkey has always been and remains the instigator of the world war - God bless you!

[BaLaLaykin]

not Turkey, but Britain

[NDR-791]

But still a troll roams in our forum with administrator rights. In our case, purely NATO. Today, some kind of a holiday. As you impose measures with the Turks, so get a backing track ... But it’s not scary ... It happened when the Crimea returned, and it was like that in Maidan Kuevsky ... We’ll survive, your division !!!

[Riv]

You can’t forbid to hope, right?
Erdogan is still a secular person. It is difficult for him to understand what it means for a soldier to die not even from friendly fire, but from the fire of the neutral side. When enemies shoot at you, it's understandable and natural. Strength can be opposed to strength, cruelty - cruelty. When their own - this is carelessness, or a mistake. For this there is someone to ask. And what can be opposed to meanness? One plane, one helicopter and two lives is not much. But the question is not "how much?", The question "what to do?"
That's why Putin will not meet with Erdogan. Well, what to talk about with a scoundrel? Why apologize?

[Starik72]

There is a very wise proverb in Russian: Do with EVERYTHING just as EVERYONE COMES with you. I would like to wholeheartedly say this saying that RUSSIA would pay close attention.

[dchegrinec]

Chilim to close this Dovutaglu with a 36 nut on the finger for such statements! He is waiting ... well, wait on!

[NDR-791]

He already seems to be stuck up - that’s why he constantly smiles cunningly, or maybe it's from the ground ???

[Norman_Pitkin]

Turks have always been and will remain moral monsters until the end of Time !!! This is a disgusting country with vile and cunning folk! If it is true that the Russian government has banned the sale of tour packages to Turkey, well, finally! respect and respect to Putin! He zadolbal with his woman's policy of "soft path" - Russia softened ... how much more Russian blood must be shed to turn on the "hard path" regime ?! - they hit you on the cheek, grind and wet you in the toilet !!!

[Bully]

Quote: Asadullah

It is necessary to prepare feverishly

Do you seriously think that Putin will fight the Turks with non-nuclear weapons in the event of an attack on our group in Syria?

[Dan Slav]

Ours is already running from the photographers on the forum.
They say that in the official ceremony of photographing GDP did not participate.
Everything is already a whistle! It all happened! We must be able to negotiate, and for this we need to start talking.
We will declare a hunger strike and isolation for everyone and we will sip home cabbage soup sitting on the stove.
Moreover, sanctions will hit ordinary people.
All Peskovs and others like them will rush to Switzerland and Florida and from there will look at "empty" Turkey.
For some reason, we only drove oil and gas and drive them to all countries, but we will courageously refuse their tomatoes and cheeses! )))

[BaLaLaykin]

he is not running, he simply has not arrived at the time of the photo. "Europe can wait while the king is fishing."

[1rl141]

You don’t have to sit on the stove, but check the condition of the powder cellars, dry the contents, if necessary, clean your krumultuk, grind the saber and the finn and sit smoking on the mound, wait for the whistle.

[theodore rasp]

Wow !!! I thought that Poroshenko finished d ......, and now he has worthy competitors!

[Ruswolf]

theodore rasp
Wow !!! I thought that Poroshenko finished d ......, and now he has worthy competitors!

Interesting ... and they (competitors) also jump?

[NDR-791]

Stoltenberg stated that "all NATO allies unanimously supported Turkey’s right to defend its borders."
He has stated what any state will declare in relation to any other state. If personal interests are not affected. It was not he who announced that he personally and all his "royal men" are waiting for a revision of our sanctions policy towards Turkey. (the policy has not yet entered into force, and DavutoLSU is already crying). Soyuz girls surrendered Turkey, and they did not understand what would happen like a gnawing - you let us run over, and we will see ... Here two boats were sent to the Mediterranean Sea yesterday out of great pride, and if "due to improper service" what if our destroyer moves, then we will apologize in every way, and we will scold the acoustics from the destroyer, and send home for additional training ... with a promotion.

[solovey]

NOT EVENING EVENING - EVERYTHING WILL BE GOOD
In 2000, when the GDP came, the situation was much worse !!!

[buyoil]

Hachiko was waiting too ...

[Ruswolf]

I’m thinking .... they didn’t have to go to the NATO headquarters for a consultation ... But to Ukraine. To the rabbit and parasite! They would definitely teach the Turks what and how to talk and think! There are almost all storytellers!

[Luga]

And I propose to cut off Erdogan's head and hide it in Obama's suitcase. Barack will return from a business trip, tell his wife, here, they say, Michel, you have a gift from Paris itself, and takes out a package. He unfolds it, and there his head rolls up his eyes, moves his antennae. Suddenly the eyes open and the whole kitchen: "Nar-r-breaking the boundaries! Tour-r-addicts! R-r-Russians are coming! There will be no apologies !!!"

That will be a laugh! And in Turkey, probably, they will not notice anything ...

[mamont5]

"We will not apologize to Russia, we expect a revision of prohibitive measures from Russia ..."

If only in the direction of amplification, so please always ...

[Migor102]

just like in a saying: eat fish and ... sit down!

[16112014nk]

Quote: Norman_Pitkin

If it is true that the Russian government has banned the sale of tourist packages to Turkey-

From the Internet.
"From Turkey, where everything is included -
- to the Crimea, where everything is off! "
Every joke has some truth.
And the barmaleevs from the Turkish leadership must be "treated" by all possible means.

[v.yegorov]

At the same time, Davutoglu speaks of "the hope of revising the measures taken by Russia against Turkey in connection with the incident with the Su-24." The logic of the Turkish authorities, apparently, is amazing ...

Yes, the measures are rather mild, we should reconsider. In the direction of tightening. But in general,
if lawmakers thought more about the people, and not about themselves, birthmarks, then long ago
did not need Turkish rags, their own would be higher than the roof. However, this applies
not just rags. It seems that the fifth column is everywhere, and does not give
the course of national industry. And not just her.

[Teplotehnik]

The abomination of the NATO gang is amazing! Ready any villainy!

[Santjaga_Garka]

It is necessary to destroy the nest of plague rats as soon as possible, otherwise they will creep and begin to breed in other places!

[Dan Slav]

Quote: Lalaika

he is not running, he simply has not arrived at the time of the photo. "Europe can wait while the king is fishing."

Ja! Ja! Only then no one could utter a word in Europe without the permission of the Russian Empire.
And now they’re felling Russia with a pack, and here some more inside the country help to do it!

[NeRTT]

Quote: sannych

What about us? Ukraine and Turkey are twin brothers.

Dvuhtablu (two-faced)... stinking dog... will die like...

[Wolka]

Well, I can’t shake the feeling that Turkey will let all this (the attack on the plane) go under the brakes, like wagging their finger at the mischievous hooligan boy and that’s all...

[nikalmak]

These Turkish mongrels shot down a plane and, at the same time, demand to reconsider their positions on sanctions. What, they think they are smarter than a locomotive??? Garden scarecrows.

[Kirgoudou]

Although I don’t like the possessed Zhirinovsky, I must admit that he is right, as an orientalist.
-Turkey has NEVER been a friend of Russia! Türkiye has always been our enemy! ALWAYS!
And if there has been some kind of trade and economic rapprochement over the past decades, then again, to a greater extent to the benefit of Turkey.
So why the hell are we lying to ourselves? We must do our best to encourage anti-Turkish sentiments, the split of Turkey and its fragmentation into small principalities, as we did with Yugoslavia. Well, why not an example for us? Example! And it is a sin to refuse educational examples, even from enemies. Need to study...
Turkey must be fragmented by encouraging and arming minorities. And let there be Kurdistan, Kyrgyzstan, on the Bosphorus - Armenian and other competing countries...
And we will support those who are our allies, those who are loyal to us and poop in the sauna heater of our enemies...
Only a strong and rich Russia will be listened to in the world with its mouth open and its tail wagging.

[Kir1984]

Well, the Turkish women got greedy...

[Jurkovs]

We will not apologize to Russia, we are looking forward to revising the prohibition measures from Russia ...

Bah! Yes, I've heard this somewhere before. In my opinion in Ukraine. Just some kind of ukrobred virus. Soon there will be a pandemic however.

[Geser]

The Turks have the same logic as the crests: “Neighbor, give me something to eat, otherwise I have nothing to spoil on your doorstep!” After what they did with our fighter, Russia should take the following steps in addition to economic sanctions. The first is to officially declare that we will use force against any attempt to threaten or attack our military personnel in Syria. The second is to remind the Turks and the international community of the existence of the Mutual Assistance Treaty of 1980, signed between the USSR and Syria, it has not been canceled and it provides full legal justification for all our actions to protect Syria and our military. Third, given that the Turks have sent their submarines, which are openly holding our missile cruiser "Moscow" at gunpoint, an anti-submarine ship capable of targeting Turkish submarines should be sent to cover it. It is also necessary to supply the Bal and Bastion coastal defense systems to Syria, capable of destroying any ship and covering the Syrian coast. On Ukrainian TV, Kiselev issued the following forecast - the Turks will capture the S-400 air defense systems with a tank march, they will become a trophy for the Turks. I would like to say that this is a crazy forecast. But given the Turkish unpredictability and ardor, it is quite possible to assume that the Turks will openly begin to fight with us. You should be prepared for this option, which means strengthening your group in Syria and taking all measures to protect it from land, sea and air.

[win]

We expect a review of prohibitive measures from Russia...

That's it: "Expect"

Prepared in advance, planned...

[Mentat]

Quote: The Cat

But what can you replace vegetables/fruits and textiles with?

Thank God that these “vegetables” will disappear, as if they were tortured while being grown, or as if they were made of plastic. A huge amount of vegetables were grown in Kuban; the bureaucrats will now have to move to ensure supplies from Kuban.

Textiles are not a problem at all. China can be overwhelmed with these textiles. Indonesia and Malaysia are next in line.

[_my opinion]

Logic Davutoglu: We will not apologize to Russia, we will expect a review of the prohibitive measures from Russia ...

Should I point you in the right direction, or will you go there yourself?

[ppgt90]

The Turks very correctly believe that RUSSIA can reconsider the prohibitive measures. Will definitely reconsider. TOWARDS TIGHTENING!

[kadochnikov]

The statements of this creature are somewhat reminiscent of the inadequate nonsense of the leaders of the Square.

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[Mih]

Jens Stoltenberg stated that “all NATO allies unanimously supported Turkey’s right to defend its borders.

Well, this is just the logic of a European lying under an American “grizzly”. This might surprise a “pure”, virgin whole Democrat, but not an American. It's not in the nature of cowboys. Cowboys (cow herders) after the film The Magnificent Seven, starring Yul Brynner, by the way, an immigrant from Russia, became almost national heroes among us. It should be noted that this is just a remake of the film 7 Samurai. All this means that the “spirit” of American Jews, immigrants from Russia, is capable of causing the reaction of the Western world such as we now have - Turkey defended itself. The pilot, descending by parachute, posed a threat to the “moderate” opposition and the entire Western world, democracy. Well, all this is funny, if only it weren’t so sad.

[VikaXGTel]

Hi all!

[viach]

Sooner (preferably sooner) or later, one way or another, Turkey must get punched in the nose! If this does not happen, the Asian mentality will force them to be mean more and more, more and more impudently.