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Israel: Russian plane accidentally flew into the airspace over the Golan

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The aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces mistakenly entered the airspace over the Golan, was warned and returned to Syria without incident, reports RIA News Statement by the head of the Ministry of Defense of Israel, Moshe Ya'alon.




The Minister noted that the incident was immediately resolved through a communication channel established between the military.

“There was a small error, and the pilot flew one mile (1,6 kilometers) into our airspace. They immediately contacted him, he immediately changed course and returned to Syria ",
said Yaalon.

The agency does not yet have the comments of the Russian military.
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    1. Now we are free
      Now we are free 30 November 2015 09: 09 New
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      Israel beautifully threw a stone in the Turkish garden ...

      In general, it seems that soon the majority of tourists from the Russian Federation who had vacationed in Turkey before will now rest on the Promised Land, and fruits and vegetables from Israel will now replace a lot of Turkish things. Eh Turks Turks ... V.V.P. he offered your idiot Erdogan to become partners in a showdown with Europe by offering him "Gas Colt" and "Nuclear Battery" ... And Erdogan turned out to be a petty scammer who expected to fuck everyone and everything in a big game and did not understand which players he was playing with and what stakes were at stake , and asked ... l (squandered) everything and authority and his country.
      Now look at the growing partnership between Israel and Russia and once again hang around the rapids of Europe, where you (after the downed SU-24) will definitely not be taken.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 30 November 2015 09: 20 New
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        Quote: Now we are free
        Israel beautifully threw a stone to the Turkish garden ...

        Even if by chance our plane didn’t fly there, then, especially for that stone, Israel through diplomatic channels should contact us with a proposal for an accidental violation of the border. It is painful to hunt to occupy the vacated reserved seat with tourists, and for this you need to show a sample of a civilized resolution of misunderstandings, including border ones.

        In principle, I don’t see anything bad in such an effort - everyone thinks that his family will have enough money for a crust of bread. But I personally am better off on the Volga, to the cottage ... There, the horizon is farther than Israel on the map from left to right ...
        1. SMikhalych
          SMikhalych 30 November 2015 09: 32 New
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          Quote: Zoldat_A
          But I personally am better off on the Volga, to the cottage ... There, the horizon is farther than Israel on the map from left to right ...

          Yes, and fishing there ... in the Volga delta ... and an ear with smoke under a fishing bike and, Lord, vodka ... oh !!! good
          1. Temples
            Temples 30 November 2015 09: 46 New
            24
            The Golan Heights is a disputed territory in the Middle East, currently controlled by Israel.
            From 1944 to 1967 it was part of the Syrian province of Kuneitra, captured by Israel.
            So the plane flew over the territory of Syria!

            Israel can of course cheat on this issue.
            But the fact remains.
            1. PQ-18
              PQ-18 30 November 2015 11: 06 New
              +3
              hi In general, the borders of Israel, which DOES NOT RESPECT or RECOGNIZE the territorial borders of its neighbors, are a CONSTANTLY IMAGINATED line established arbitrarily by Israel and disputed by neighboring states on their territory!
              So, let Israel go with its "borders" to Ker .. (to the UN and disputes them there!)
              1. atalef
                atalef 30 November 2015 11: 09 New
                +3
                Quote: PQ-18
                hi In general, the borders of Israel, which DOES NOT RESPECT and DO NOT RECOGNIZE the territorial borders of neighbors, are a CONDITIONally IMAGINATED line recognized ONLY by Israel and NO MORE!
                So, let Israel go with "its borders" to .. UN! (and there disputes them)

                Boy, did you even look at the map?
                1. PQ-18
                  PQ-18 30 November 2015 11: 30 New
                  -2
                  Boy, did you even look at the map?

                  listen girl ...
                  in what borders is Israel recognized by your neighbors (and the UN), poke it with your MANDECURE!?
                  PS I am not an ANTI-Semite, but .. "these Jewish things" with borders I have doubts! ;-)
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                  2. atalef
                    atalef 30 November 2015 11: 54 New
                    +8
                    Quote: PQ-18
                    listen, girl ... in what borders is Israel recognized by your neighbors (and the UN), poke it with your MANDEcure

                    The existence of a peace treaty is strange (with Egypt and Jordan) - it implies recognition of borders.
                    Lebanon is Israel's withdrawal to the internationally recognized border. confirmed by UN resolution (in my opinion in 2001)
                    We have a war with Syria, so there are territorial claims (well, it's like Russia and Japan)
                    What other neighbors do we have?
                    Baby learn the mat part.
                    1. Pimply
                      Pimply 30 November 2015 12: 01 New
                      +9
                      Quote: atalef
                      We have a war with Syria, so there are territorial claims (well, it's like Russia and Japan)

                      Not like Russia and Japan. The situation is very different there. Radically, I would say
                  3. Aaron Zawi
                    Aaron Zawi 30 November 2015 17: 24 New
                    +2
                    Quote: PQ-18
                    Boy, did you even look at the map?

                    listen girl ...
                    in what borders is Israel recognized by your neighbors (and the UN), poke it with your MANDECURE!?
                    PS I am not an ANTI-Semite, but .. "these Jewish things" with borders I have doubts! ;-)

                    An intelligent person even read that until May 1948 this territory was within the British Colonial Mandate, and all state land at that time, 93% of the entire territory of the Mandate and de jure and de facto belonged to the British Crown. What year was the first card identified there?
                2. Skifotavr
                  Skifotavr 30 November 2015 16: 37 New
                  -2
                  Quote: atalef
                  Boy, did you even look at the map?

                  Has the granddaughter who wrote "grandpa, go to bed" already grown up? laughing
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            2. Aaron Zawi
              Aaron Zawi 30 November 2015 17: 20 New
              +6
              Quote: Temples
              The Golan Heights is a disputed territory in the Middle East, currently controlled by Israel.
              From 1944 to 1967 it was part of the Syrian province of Kuneitra, captured by Israel.
              So the plane flew over the territory of Syria!

              Israel can of course cheat on this issue.
              But the fact remains.

              And until 1918, this territory was part of the Turkish. Empire, then until 1944 into the French Coloial Empire, then Syria, now Israel. I will not puff out my cheeks, but until the Syrians do not shine to return them. Well, no more than the Japanese return the South Kuril Islands.
              1. Temples
                Temples 1 December 2015 09: 51 New
                0
                What nonsense!
                Turkish empire ???
                "French Colossal Empire" ???
                "I will not puff out my cheeks" wassat
          2. Strezhevchanin
            Strezhevchanin 30 November 2015 10: 17 New
            13
            Quote: SMikhalych
            Lord, vodka ... eh

            Monday ..... a provocateur !!!
            1. SMikhalych
              SMikhalych 30 November 2015 10: 23 New
              10
              Quote: Strezhevchanin
              Quote: SMikhalych
              Lord, vodka ... eh

              Monday ..... a provocateur !!!

              Put the chopper ... drinks
              1. Strezhevchanin
                Strezhevchanin 30 November 2015 12: 25 New
                +3
                Quote: SMikhalych
                Put the chopper ...

                This is not a chopper! This is aspirin)))
                1. SMikhalych
                  SMikhalych 30 November 2015 12: 54 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Strezhevchanin
                  Quote: SMikhalych
                  Put the chopper ...

                  This is not a chopper! This is aspirin)))

                  More like obserin wassat
          3. Baloo
            Baloo 30 November 2015 10: 51 New
            +5
            Dreams Come True. Third take it? bully
            1. SMikhalych
              SMikhalych 30 November 2015 12: 56 New
              +1
              Quote: Balu
              Dreams Come True. Third take it? bully

              Easy ... I ask to the table - it boiled bully
          4. Nick
            Nick 30 November 2015 11: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: SMikhalych
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            But I personally am better off on the Volga, to the cottage ... There, the horizon is farther than Israel on the map from left to right ...

            Yes, and fishing there ... in the Volga delta ... and an ear with smoke under a fishing bike and, Lord, vodka ... oh !!! good

            The main thing is that vodka is a dessert, and not the main course, as it happens among us occasionally ... wink hi
          5. Lelek
            Lelek 30 November 2015 12: 02 New
            +2
            Quote: SMikhalych
            Yes, and fishing there ... in the Volga delta ... and an ear with smoke under a fishing bike and, Lord, vodka ... oh !!!


            But the middle Volga pretty dirty. I remember they drank Volga and didn’t boil water on Irgiz, but now there’s a big risk of hepatitis and a bunch of sores to catch.
            What about the fish soup - it was a lot of fun. Thank. drinks
          6. evgmiz
            evgmiz 30 November 2015 13: 50 New
            +1
            Do not forget to grab the address of the camp site of a relative of Serdyukovsky ...
        2. atalef
          atalef 30 November 2015 09: 38 New
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          Quote: Zoldat_A
          It is painful to hunt to occupy the vacated reserved seat with tourists, and for this you need to show a sample of a civilized resolution of misunderstandings, including border ones.

          Well, actually, I do not see any connection
          . the head is not for what is in it, but for what to think.
          Netanyahu, realizing Russia's intentions to enter Syria, did what any sane politician should have done.
          I went to Russia and closed all positions where there could be at least some kind of conflict of interests.
          Result on face
          Communication channel, lack of misunderstanding, we do not bother you, you are to us.
          Collaboration is good
          On the issue of tourism, we are certainly glad to every Russian tourist, but we perfectly understand that we cannot be a real alternative to either Turkey or Egypt.
          All the same, our price level is completely different.
          1. SibSlavRus
            SibSlavRus 30 November 2015 09: 46 New
            0
            Nevertheless, Israel, unlike the Ottomans (the historical enemies of Slavs, Orthodox civilization and the Russian world (I bow to Catherine the Great), wanted Byzantium to revive, and if not for her death, Count Suvorov would have crushed the French Revolution, turning Europe into a Russian province )) the mind lacks in its actions not to reach suicide.
            Nevertheless, Russia is the progenitor of the Israeli state and for the first time in the world organized its prototype on its territory, which still exists (thanks to Joseph Vissarionovich).
            It would not even be a stab in the back ...
            The will of the Creator (Russia, not what many thought), according to which Israel exists, depends on the behavior and "feelings" of his brainchild. The brainchild can be very bad, but clearly not stupid.
            1. Sirocco
              Sirocco 30 November 2015 10: 20 New
              11
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              Nevertheless, in Israel, unlike the Ottomans, the mind suffices by its actions not to reach suicide.

              I wouldn’t be so self-confident, from love to hate one step,
              I would not sing odes, for the glory of Israel, however much I would later have to bitterly disappoint, because Israel is in the orbit of the United States, like Turkey.
              1. GSH-18
                GSH-18 30 November 2015 10: 25 New
                +3
                Quote: Sirocco
                I would not sing odes, for the glory of Israel, however much I would later have to bitterly disappoint, because Israel is in the orbit of the United States, like Turkey.

                Israel does not shoot down our bombers, unlike our former best friends in the region.
                And the Turkish Air Force is now sitting on the ground on the opera exactly. The S-400 is working. They know that we need only the slightest excuse! am
                1. Sirocco
                  Sirocco 30 November 2015 10: 32 New
                  +6
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  Israel does not shoot down our bombers, unlike our former best friends in the region.

                  Respect to Israel, although I do not see a feat in this, they act competently, in accordance with the rules and agreements.
                2. revnagan
                  revnagan 30 November 2015 11: 28 New
                  -7
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  Israel does not shoot down our bombers, unlike our former best friends in the region.

                  How quickly they forgot the death of our pilots in Egypt, who were shot down by the Israelis "from around the corner."
                3. I read the news
                  I read the news 30 November 2015 13: 21 New
                  +3
                  Quote: GSH-18
                  Israel does not shoot down our bombers

                  Turkey, until recently, also did not bring down.
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              2. SibSlavRus
                SibSlavRus 30 November 2015 10: 26 New
                +1
                Don't get it wrong, dear Sirocco.
                I am a supporter of objective anti-simitism, without unnecessary emotions and feelings, only a rational approach along with the scientific and historical.
                I just meant the basic instinct of self-preservation of the state of Israel.

                It is the state, not the difference between Jews and Jews.
                1. Sirocco
                  Sirocco 30 November 2015 10: 30 New
                  +3
                  Quote: SibSlavRus
                  Don't get it wrong, dear Sirocco.

                  you know, it's hard to give up on friends. And now we have such a euphoria, it was exactly the same when the conversation went about a gas pipe to Turkey.
                  Bitter disappointment, isn't it? To be honest, anyway, somewhere deep down I was waiting for a dirty trick from Turkey.
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                  2. creak
                    creak 30 November 2015 11: 15 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Sirocco
                    Bitter disappointment, isn't it?


                    It was rightly said in the Holy Scripture: "Truly blessed are those who do not expect anything, for they will not be disappointed ..." - it would be better to indulge oneself less with illusions about eternal friendship and love in relations with other countries - then you look and there will be less disappointment .. ..
                2. atalef
                  atalef 30 November 2015 10: 32 New
                  11
                  Quote: SibSlavRus
                  I am a supporter of objective anti-simitism

                  those. I objectively do not like Jews wassat
                  Quote: SibSlavRus
                  without unnecessary emotions and feelings

                  laughing
                  Quote: SibSlavRus
                  only a rational approach along with scientific and historical.

                  Historian wink
                  1. andj61
                    andj61 30 November 2015 11: 54 New
                    +6
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: SibSlavRus
                    only a rational approach along with scientific and historical.
                    Historian

                    The German Nazis approached just that - rationally, objectively, without emotion, with a scientific approach - and went for crafts made from human skin, soap made from human fat, fertilizers from the ashes of burnt corpses - rationally, why "good" wasted in vain!
                    But this is simply the position of the same "historian" brought to the point of absurdity. And the Jews have nothing to do with it - so you can erect any crap on any person of any nationality!
                    And most importantly - for what reason! Israel confirmed that within the framework of the concluded agreements "interacted" to eliminate the error of our pilot - and such a comment appears! And this is instead of gratitude to Israel, or statements in the spirit - well done, they say, they observe the agreement.
                    Understanding this is extremely difficult!
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                  2. unsinkable
                    unsinkable 30 November 2015 12: 21 New
                    +2
                    Quote: atalef

                    Quote: atalef
                    Historian

                    Most of your comments have a grain of truth, so, buddy, stop throwing emotions and stop joking. You wrote: * Only a rational approach *. So stick to this. Respectfully hi
                  3. kovalev2015
                    kovalev2015 1 December 2015 08: 59 New
                    0
                    This is a normal publication, although ours do not confirm this news.
                    In my opinion, this is another NATO "duck" to declare on occasion, on occasion, that such incidents have already happened. All lies, Jews.
                3. Pimply
                  Pimply 30 November 2015 11: 41 New
                  10
                  Quote: SibSlavRus
                  I am a supporter of objective anti-simitism, without unnecessary emotions and feelings, only a rational approach along with the scientific and historical.

                  Antesemitism is not objective. It either exists as a form of xenophobia, or it does not exist. I understand that you want to decorate your personal atavistic urges with flowers and seem to yourself better than you are. But you don’t get better from this
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              3. unsinkable
                unsinkable 30 November 2015 12: 09 New
                +2
                Quote: Sirocco
                I would not sing odes

                No one needs to sing the odes. The Turks sang. Get together. After two tangible blows in the back (Urkain and Turkain) you need to keep your eyes open. Collaborate with other countries, but without emotion. I think Israel’s behavior is positive, but only for now. They all want to to show that NATO has nothing to do with. It will be difficult to predict what will happen next (and not just me). hi
                1. padded jacket
                  padded jacket 30 November 2015 12: 18 New
                  -2
                  Quote: unsinkable
                  I think Israel’s behavior is positive, but only for the moment.

                  From Israel you need to expect the same blow in the back as from Turkey, it is no better than it, but most likely worse.
              4. Aaron Zawi
                Aaron Zawi 30 November 2015 17: 28 New
                +3
                Quote: Sirocco

                I wouldn’t be so self-confident, from love to hate one step,
                I would not sing odes, for the glory of Israel, however much I would later have to bitterly disappoint, because Israel is in the orbit of the United States, like Turkey.

                I agree. The sanity of our policy does not in any way mean that we are allies with Russia. Each country has its own interests.
            2. Pimply
              Pimply 30 November 2015 11: 39 New
              +6
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              Nevertheless, Russia is the progenitor of the Israeli state and for the first time in the world organized its prototype on its territory, which still exists (thanks to Joseph Vissarionovich).

              Oh, please do not carry nonsense. Immigrants from Russia played a huge role in the formation of modern Israel. Russia as a state is not. If you mean the UN, then the UN de facto consolidated the fact of an already formed structure.
          2. GSH-18
            GSH-18 30 November 2015 09: 49 New
            +8
            Quote: atalef
            Netanyahu, realizing Russia's intentions to enter Syria, did what any sane politician should have done.
            I went to Russia and closed all positions where there could be at least some kind of conflict of interests.
            Result on face
            Communication channel, lack of misunderstanding, we do not bother you, you are to us.
            Collaboration is good

            Netanyahu handsome! Absolutely normal and adequate behavior. It is necessary to cooperate with such politicians. And with those that shout, we are your best friends in the region, and then out of silence our planes knock down and our soldiers fighting the terrorists are ruined!
          3. GSH-18
            GSH-18 30 November 2015 09: 56 New
            +6
            Quote: atalef
            On the issue of tourism, we are certainly glad to every Russian tourist, but we perfectly understand that we cannot be a real alternative to either Turkey or Egypt.
            All the same, our price level is completely different.

            The pricing policy in the conditions of a large number of tourists can be easily reviewed in favor of both Israeli hotels and in favor of our tourists.
            Law of trade: more volume, lower price good Waiting for an Israeli commercial offer smile
            1. atalef
              atalef 30 November 2015 10: 25 New
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              Quote: GSH-18
              Quote: atalef
              On the issue of tourism, we are certainly glad to every Russian tourist, but we perfectly understand that we cannot be a real alternative to either Turkey or Egypt.
              All the same, our price level is completely different.

              The pricing policy in the conditions of a large number of tourists can be easily reviewed in favor of both Israeli hotels and in favor of our tourists.
              Law of trade: more volume, lower price good Waiting for an Israeli commercial offer smile

              Well, in general, tourists from Russia in terms of quantity hold a confident second place in Ihrail (after the states).
              God grant that you came to the first.
              Warm, civilized, beautiful sea, a quarter of the population speaks Russian
              Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
              Maybe that will be decided with this.
              1. GSH-18
                GSH-18 30 November 2015 10: 37 New
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
                Maybe that will be decided with this.

                Yesterday on Rossiya24 (news channel) it flashed that our tour operators are negotiating with the Israeli hotel business to create mutually beneficial conditions. Somewhere even like "all-and-exclusive" in Israeli hotels seems to be possible, I've heard this out of the way .. In general, while it is being discussed, we'll see. But one thing can be said with certainty now - Turkey is in full flight next season. Ours will no longer be there yes Starting January 1, a visa will be introduced with Turkey and much more regarding their business.
              2. SMikhalych
                SMikhalych 30 November 2015 10: 47 New
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
                Maybe that will be decided with this.

                This was specifically mentioned in one of his recent interviews by Jacob Kedmi - traders will profit from everything. And the greater the demand, the higher the price. And he is right ...
              3. andj61
                andj61 30 November 2015 12: 00 New
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                Warm, civilized, beautiful sea, a quarter of the population speaks Russian
                Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
                Maybe that will be decided with this.

                If not for the depreciation of the ruble, then the prices were completely nothing. And most importantly - there is something to see, and it is not difficult to go around the whole country. If the hotel business is decided, then maybe not in the high season and it will be possible to travel normally. hi
              4. Scoun
                Scoun 30 November 2015 12: 15 New
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
                Maybe that will be decided with this.

                More security services go too far ... many of ours (that is, I specifically about my relatives / colleagues / friends) just because of undressing are no longer riding, why the hell are they taking off my pants?
                type instead of a member of a TNT checker? )))
                Well, in general, a real bust takes place.
              5. Kaiten
                Kaiten 30 November 2015 15: 55 New
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
                Maybe that will be decided with this.

                Can we hire Turks?
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                2. atalef
                  atalef 30 November 2015 16: 06 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Kaiten
                  Quote: atalef
                  Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
                  Maybe that will be decided with this.

                  Can we hire Turks?

                  You know, I remember somewhere in 98-99, maybe the beginning of the 2000s. in short, when the deal went through (still in my opinion before Erdogan). that Israel is modernizing Turkish tanks. so in this comprehensive agreement. there was a fad that the Turks could work in Israel.
                  so here. the contractor drags a group of such ORLOV. to paint portals at substations, while not one of them is hellish in Hebrew and English, but to paint portals (160kV), they are disabled, first one half of the bus assemblies, then the other.
                  I am trying (like letting go to work) to convey to the proud fans of sheep and hamam. that you can work on the right. and on the left. kill the fuck. even if you only approach a meter.
                  He arranged them - drew, showed on his fingers, except that he did not dance with a tambourine.
                  In the end - like they understood, they are all in the gibberish language - me, me. naturlih.
                  climbed (they) to the portal. I'm downstairs. and suddenly my hair moved - they didn’t understand nichrome. crawl under pressure.
                  I'm yelling to them. zero attention. your mother, began to collect gravel and how to shoot apples to fuck.
                  They got off. I poured all the paint. He called a TB engineer, dragged a man speaking Turkish (we have one in the department).
                  I passed my authority and said. with the Turks never again in life.
                  D.B.I.L.Y. b .... laughing
                  1. Kaiten
                    Kaiten 30 November 2015 16: 48 New
                    +1
                    Quote: atalef
                    D.B.I.L.

                    I spoke with the Greek military a bit, that's who the Turks do not like. They just can't talk calmly about them.
                    1. atalef
                      atalef 30 November 2015 20: 24 New
                      0
                      Quote: Kaiten
                      Quote: atalef
                      D.B.I.L.

                      I spoke with the Greek military a bit, that's who the Turks do not like. They just can't talk calmly about them.

                      Well, I do not mind, only if they do not like. they do something, otherwise Tsipras’s words remind me of de Gaulle (who brought 1500 soldiers to Paris) and suddenly he was not only his liberator, but also among the victorious countries.
                      And not the love of the Greeks for the Turks, this photograph reminds me of this.
                      Resistance Paris to the Nazis
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              1. Hello
                Hello 30 November 2015 10: 31 New
                +3
                Quote: atalef
                Well, in general, tourists from Russia in terms of quantity hold a confident second place in Ihrail (after the states).
                God grant that you came to the first.
                Warm, civilized, beautiful sea, a quarter of the population speaks Russian
                Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
                Maybe that will be decided with this.

                It always seemed to me that the former USSR prevailed, and then the French. Although this is if judged by Netanya and Tel Aviv. hi
                I agree with the prices.
                1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
                  Uncle VasyaSayapin 30 November 2015 10: 42 New
                  0
                  Not all Russian-speaking Jews go to rest in Israel from the Russian Federation, some from the USA.
                  1. andj61
                    andj61 30 November 2015 12: 03 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
                    Not all Russian-speaking Jews go to rest in Israel from the Russian Federation, some from the USA.

                    Of course, there were no more Jews left there, than to Israel. Although all the same, in Israel, and, especially, in the USA everyone considers Russians. bully
              2. GSH-18
                GSH-18 30 November 2015 10: 42 New
                +2
                Quote: atalef
                Well, in general, tourists from Russia in terms of quantity hold a confident second place in Ihrail (after the states).

                Yes, on our TV set an advertisement (even before the Turkish betrayal) was and is now, about Israeli resorts and Jerusalem smile
            3. Volzhanin
              Volzhanin 30 November 2015 13: 23 New
              -5
              WHAT FOR? They live on a powder keg. The terrorist attack is like rain for us!
              It is better to die in battle than by hand you will understand who the hell is in Israel.
              Let them cook there themselves while the Arabs are engaged in a cabal.
          4. Bakht
            Bakht 30 November 2015 10: 12 New
            0
            There is also a level of security at the top of pricing policy. While in Israel there are various intifada (now it seems knives), then tourists will not be very comfortable there. Given the mentality of tourists, I think that they will walk there in shorts and T-shirts. And quench vodka in liters. This is hardly a good idea. Individual tourists can go wherever they want. Even to Israel, even to Egypt, even to Turkey. But mass flow is unlikely.
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            2. bulvas
              bulvas 30 November 2015 10: 23 New
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              Quote: Bakht
              Given the mentality of tourists, I think that they will walk there in shorts and T-shirts. And quench vodka in liters. This is hardly a good idea.


              Was more than once in Israel, rested in Tel Aviv, Eilat, the Dead Sea

              - everywhere is super. Of course there are schools, something is missing, compared with Europe, but in general - a real buzz

              The main thing in Israel is complete relaxation, an atmosphere of nirvana.

              Plus, there are interesting places that every Christian or person who is a little interested in history is simply obliged to visit.

              Very tasty vegetables, fruits, I have never seen such anywhere else

              Prices are certainly not cheap, but you need to understand that salaries in Israel are high, and defense and security expenses are not small either.

              At least it’s worth a look, it’s mea house (100%)

              I am glad that Russia has a mutual understanding with Israel.

              My conviction is Israel - a reliable and strong country, responsible for its words,
              hanging out like Mr. in the hole will not
              1. Vladimir 1964
                Vladimir 1964 30 November 2015 15: 45 New
                +2
                Quote: bulvas
                Plus, there are interesting places that every Christian or person who is a little interested in history is simply obliged to visit.

                I always dreamed of going to Jerusalem, it is very interesting to see the city of world religions. But alas, in my case, desires do not coincide with the possibilities. For a military pensioner, aged and without work, this is not possible.
          5. Ramzaj99
            Ramzaj99 30 November 2015 12: 46 New
            +3
            Quote: atalef
            Netanyahu, realizing Russia's intentions to enter Syria, did what any sensible politician should have done. He went to Russia and closed all positions where there could be at least some kind of conflict of interests.

            I support. Maybe the goals of Russia and Israel are different, nor are the interests essentially the same. And God forbid that everyone would provide and smooth out all the corners. Judging by the comments, we agreed on everything they wanted.
            1. atalef
              atalef 30 November 2015 16: 20 New
              +8
              Quote: Ramzaj99
              I support. Maybe Russia and Israel have different goals, no interests are essentially the same

              Another great news.
              The Russian Air Force attacked a bakery located in the Syrian city of Idlib, owned by the Turkish Humanitarian Aid Fund (IHH). It was this foundation that organized in 2010 the so-called "freedom flotilla" designed to break the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip.


              According to IHH representatives, the bakery was opened 16 months ago. Its capacity was 65.000 loaves of bread per day, which met the needs

              let the sand eat.
              1. Kaiten
                Kaiten 30 November 2015 16: 49 New
                +4
                Quote: atalef
                It was this fund that organized in 2010 the so-called "freedom flotilla" designed to break the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip.

                How symbolic ... Israel started, Russia finished.
            2. atalef
              atalef 30 November 2015 16: 20 New
              +2
              Quote: Ramzaj99
              I support. Maybe Russia and Israel have different goals, no interests are essentially the same

              Another great news.
              The Russian Air Force attacked a bakery located in the Syrian city of Idlib, owned by the Turkish Humanitarian Aid Fund (IHH). It was this foundation that organized in 2010 the so-called "freedom flotilla" designed to break the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip.


              According to IHH representatives, the bakery was opened 16 months ago. Its capacity was 65.000 loaves of bread per day, which met the needs

              let the sand eat.
          6. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 30 November 2015 15: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            All the same, our price level is completely different.

            Sasha, you also drive your "chikatils", people who may even be afraid. bully
            1. atalef
              atalef 30 November 2015 16: 59 New
              +5
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              Quote: atalef
              All the same, our price level is completely different.

              Sasha, you also drive your "chikatils", people who may even be afraid. bully

              Hey . Vladimir
              We can handle this as well. Not in the first. hi
              1. Vladimir 1964
                Vladimir 1964 30 November 2015 17: 28 New
                +4
                Quote: atalef
                We can handle this as well. Not in the first.

                Hello, Sasha.
                I believe that someday you can handle it, I always support you. But just as I already wrote to get in and see how you got there, it probably will not work out anymore, elderly military pensioners have no such opportunities. A pity, sincerely. hi
                1. wanderer
                  wanderer 30 November 2015 18: 22 New
                  +5
                  Vladimir. All you need is a bit over fifty dollars, plenty of time ahead, dig up yes come)! You won’t regret it.
                  1. Vladimir 1964
                    Vladimir 1964 30 November 2015 20: 06 New
                    +2
                    Quote: wanderer
                    Vladimir. All you need is a bit over fifty dollars, plenty of time ahead, dig up yes come)! You won’t regret it.

                    Tempter You, colleague. I do not hide that I want to see Israel, and I understand that what you have there is interesting for tourists. Wait and see. And thanks for the kind comment. hi
                2. atalef
                  atalef 30 November 2015 20: 04 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Vladimir 1964
                  You managed, it probably will not work out already, no such elderly military pensioners have such opportunities. A pity, sincerely.

                  Everything will work out, I believe in it, sincerely! hi good drinks
                  1. Vladimir 1964
                    Vladimir 1964 30 November 2015 21: 15 New
                    0
                    Quote: atalef
                    Everything will work out, I believe in it, sincerely!

                    Thank you, Alexander. I am always glad to see you on the site. hi
              2. andj61
                andj61 30 November 2015 21: 04 New
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: Vladimir 1964
                Quote: atalef
                All the same, our price level is completely different.

                Sasha, you also drive your "chikatils", people who may even be afraid. bully

                Hey . Vladimir
                We can handle this as well. Not in the first. hi

                But you know, Alexander, the Russians, for some reason, are not afraid of such crap. We are more interested in other questions, more mercantile - where is it better - on the Red Sea or the Mediterranean, and how much time to devote to both, is it worth staying longer at the Dead Sea for more than a few hours, is two days enough to inspect Jerusalem, is there any point in stopping by Orthodox churches and missions located in Israel, as well as - for those especially inquisitive - where to personally look at the Israeli military. Even "all inclusive" in relation to Israel is not very interesting; whoever needs it will always find everything, and with constant moving, when you don't stay in one place for more than three or four nights, this is not very important.
                hi
            2. atalef
              atalef 30 November 2015 16: 59 New
              +2
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              Quote: atalef
              All the same, our price level is completely different.

              Sasha, you also drive your "chikatils", people who may even be afraid. bully

              Hey . Vladimir
              We can handle this as well. Not in the first. hi
        3. GSH-18
          GSH-18 30 November 2015 09: 43 New
          +6
          “There was a small error, and the pilot flew one mile (1,6 kilometers) into our airspace. They immediately contacted him, he immediately changed course and returned to Syria ",
          said Yaalon.

          Oh how! It turns out you can just agree. True, the Turks for some reason do not know about it .. Well, all the worse for them. Welcome to the no-fly zone gentlemen of the Ottomans! am
        4. sssla
          sssla 30 November 2015 10: 23 New
          -1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          Even if by chance our plane didn’t fly there

          But what about the statements of Russian officials and non-officials that the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces is equipped with equipment of such navigation accuracy, up to 1 meter, that it’s NOT REAL to break someone’s border !! Or am I not understanding something ?? !!
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2015 09: 21 New
        20
        Israel: Russian plane accidentally flew into the airspace over the Golan

        "Since Russian planes are not going to strike at us, there is no need to automatically shoot them down," Ya'alon said.

        "Just as we do not prevent them from acting and do not interfere with what is happening in Syria ... just as they do not prevent us from flying and acting in accordance with our interests," the minister continued.

        He added that the agreements of the military of the two countries on the prevention of conflict in the Syrian sky provide for mandatory informing the Russian side of flights near Israeli borders.

        "We have created an open channel of communication to avoid misunderstandings ... They tell us when they fly close to the Golan," said Ya'alon.
        http://3mv.ru/publ/izrail_samolet_vks_rossii_sluchajno_zashel_v_prostranstvo_nad
        _golanami / 1-1-0-51016 this is how everything is decided humanly.
        1. cniza
          cniza 30 November 2015 09: 26 New
          +8
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          [Just as we do not prevent them from acting and do not interfere with what is happening in Syria ... just as they do not prevent us from flying and acting in accordance with our interests, "the minister continued.



          The normal solution to even very complex issues is a click on Erdogan’s nose.
          1. good7
            good7 30 November 2015 09: 39 New
            +3
            They don’t have to beat with a click, but they plow the border with Greece with a sledgehammer and they don’t care at all, but then they didn’t do anything different, don’t shoot down our planes - this is aggression!
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      3. SMikhalych
        SMikhalych 30 November 2015 09: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: Now we are free
        ... and again hang around the rapids of Europe, where you (after the downed SU-24) will definitely not be taken.

        Yes, and they can be expelled from NATO ... posthumously laughing
        1. DIVAN SOLDIER
          DIVAN SOLDIER 30 November 2015 09: 29 New
          +2
          The United States is not stupid, Turkey from NATO will not exclude 700 thousand warriors are not superfluous.
          1. SibSlavRus
            SibSlavRus 30 November 2015 10: 16 New
            +2
            DIVAN SOLDIER: "The United States is not stupid, Turkey will not be excluded from NATO by 700 thousand warriors who are not superfluous."

            You are absolutely right. I will add on my own behalf: these are soldiers doing the "dirtiest" work for NATO. They especially distinguished themselves, in my memory, during the bombing of Former Yugoslavia, of Serbian positions both in 1995 and in 1999.

            And of course, the regional irritant and the southern flank of NATO are ideal for American AUGs and military bases.

            Classical tellurocracy and thalassocracy in geopolitics (sea and land power).

      4. good7
        good7 30 November 2015 09: 37 New
        +5
        Threw a stone? Entered in accordance with international standards! Anyway, Israel, don’t say - civilization! Lovers of Arab lawlessness can minus!
      5. Bayonet
        Bayonet 30 November 2015 10: 23 New
        +2
        Quote: Now we are free
        In general, it seems that soon the majority of tourists from the Russian Federation who had previously vacationed in Turkey will now rest on the promised land

        Most unlikely, prices will not allow it. Look at travel agency sites. hi
        1. Hello
          Hello 30 November 2015 10: 26 New
          +4
          Quote: Bayonet
          Most unlikely, prices will not allow it. Look at travel agency sites.

          Absolutely, unfortunately Israel loses a lot to Turkey and Egypt in terms of price. So I think you should not expect tourist hype. Rather, the hype will be in Greece and Cyprus. hi
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      7. gjv
        gjv 30 November 2015 10: 47 New
        +3
        Quote: Now we are free
        V.V.P. your idiot Erdogan was offered to become partners in a showdown with Europe, offering him "Gas Colt" and "Nuclear Battery" ... And Erdogan turned out to be a petty scammer

        Erdogan, not a fool, but an ambitious and consistent Turkish Islamist Hitler leading Turkey to the Sultan (Ottoman) Great Port (ay Poles with their Greater Poland from sea to sea)! This was announced in 2010 by Deputy Baghdasarov at a State Duma hearing on the construction of a nuclear power plant in Turkey on a Russian loan. However, they didn’t listen to Bagdasarov! The oligarchic-liberalistic thirst for the money grew blindfolded and took priority. Now reaping! When will the minds of Russian politicians move to the head ?! request
      8. Altona
        Altona 30 November 2015 10: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: Now we are free
        Israel beautifully threw a stone in the Turkish garden ...

        -------------------------
        He showed an example of polite and civilized cooperation in the sky, in contrast to the barbaric and primitive Turkish attitude towards our VKS ...
      9. vodolaz
        vodolaz 30 November 2015 11: 07 New
        +2
        Well, let's start with the fact that our plane did not fly into Turkey at all and it was a stab in the back, and Israel did exactly what it should do.
      10. Angry orc
        Angry orc 30 November 2015 11: 48 New
        0
        this incident can be interpreted in a different way, for example, our "partners" may declare that Russian aircraft have poor navigation and they fly where they don't
      11. Lepila
        Lepila 30 November 2015 12: 18 New
        +5
        Israel and Russia will not become strategic partners. But it’s great that we take into account the interests of each other whenever possible. And we are developing economic and cultural relations. And you are welcome to visit Israel.
      12. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 30 November 2015 12: 35 New
        +1
        Did a plane accidentally fly into Israeli airspace? wink


        And I also thought about tourism ... As early as Friday ... If the price is reduced, then the people will go ...
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 30 November 2015 12: 48 New
          0
          Quote: The Cat
          And I also thought about tourism ... As early as Friday ... If the price is reduced, then the people will go ...

          Israel purpose for excursions a place frankly not safe there is a civil war. And the prices, as you rightly said, are extremely high.
          Again, going to the territory of a state that occupies the lands of another state is, to put it mildly, not quite right.
          And this is perfectly understood by all tourists, not only from Russia but also from Western countries, so Israel is worried.
          In the first half of 2015, the demand for hotels in Israel fell by 25%
          The hotel business association is sounding the alarm. The report, published on July 22 by the economic department of the association, indicates that in the first half of 2015, the number of tourists staying in Israeli hotels was reduced by 25%.
          http://newsru.co.il/israel/22jul2015/hotels_008.html
      13. Volzhanin
        Volzhanin 30 November 2015 12: 53 New
        0
        Is that a goat’s bayan?
        We have a huge territory, a huge country! What nowhere else to rest? Yes, we have such places - all world resorts quietly smoke on the sidelines!
        We need to develop our tourism infrastructure and invest money there, and not in someone else's.
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 30 November 2015 13: 00 New
          -2
          Quote: Volzhanin
          We have a huge territory, a huge country! What nowhere else to rest? Yes, we have such places - all world resorts quietly smoke on the sidelines!

          Absolutely right now it is necessary at least "gently" to restrict tourism to other countries, especially in those where terrorist attacks are committed or there is a sluggish civil war.
          And of course, we must develop our tourism and hotel business with all our strength, so that we would get work and revenue from this, not Moishe, Smith or Hans.
          1. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 1 December 2015 09: 45 New
            0
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Quote: Volzhanin
            We have a huge territory, a huge country! What nowhere else to rest? Yes, we have such places - all world resorts quietly smoke on the sidelines!

            Absolutely right now it is necessary at least "gently" to restrict tourism to other countries, especially in those where terrorist attacks are committed or there is a sluggish civil war.
            And of course, we must develop our tourism and hotel business with all our strength, so that we would get work and revenue from this, not Moishe, Smith or Hans.



            Expensive, however. Why did the people go to "Egypt, Turkey"? There the prices were lower and the service was higher. Somewhere in Russia, probably, there are places where you can have a good and inexpensive vacation, but people do not really know about them.
        2. Lepila
          Lepila 30 November 2015 14: 17 New
          +6
          So it is, but people in winter want to soak up the sun in the sun on the seashore ...
          1. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 1 December 2015 14: 30 New
            0
            I want to go to the Dead Sea before it finally "died".
      14. Abrekkos
        Abrekkos 30 November 2015 14: 18 New
        +2
        This is yes. Israel is not Turkey. He has no imperial ambitions. She won’t do anything wrong. Is it that the back of the stick will hurt Turkey here by chance ...

        But here they are vindictive. They didn’t let me in. Although I don’t ... repeat

        Yes, and it was the past ...
        1. Lepila
          Lepila 30 November 2015 17: 00 New
          +2
          And what kind of past is the case for which they did not let go?
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    3. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 30 November 2015 09: 09 New
      12
      In order to poke Erdogan with his nose, it will do.
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 30 November 2015 09: 21 New
        13
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        In order to poke Erdogan with his nose, it’s quite fine

        And they hit a hardogan like a kitten nuzzling a nose into a puddle, and this stuffed turkish sleeping and sees Putin meeting at the summit, as it were, and the Israelites acted as normal people should.
      2. Vikings
        Vikings 30 November 2015 09: 48 New
        +3
        No, not quite! Yeshe must answer for our pilot, and
        marines!
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 30 November 2015 10: 36 New
          0
          Bibi is a man with his head, although I do not like his policy. Imagine if a plane hits. Israel is a small state in size, so Russia will quickly organize a no-fly zone. Do they need it? Bibi was the first to realize what was happening and flew to Moscow to agree. hi
          1. Lepila
            Lepila 30 November 2015 14: 20 New
            +3
            Well this is unlikely. Until now, all the battles between the Israeli and Soviet air forces ended in favor of our flyers. But if there is an opportunity to painlessly avoid conflict, then this is what you need to do ... After all, a won battle is an averted battle ...
            1. Stanislas
              Stanislas 30 November 2015 15: 14 New
              +4
              Quote: Lepila
              all fights between the Israeli and Soviet air forces ended in favor of our flyers
              You are probably talking about the battle over El Sokhna. Indeed, Israel's air ambush was professional and honest, unlike Turkey, "partners", their mother! But "all fights" is probably an artistic exaggeration, hyperbole. Apart from this operation, thank God, we did not have any more serious contractions. Correct if I'm wrong.
  2. DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 30 November 2015 09: 07 New
    -2
    Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!
    1. 0255
      0255 30 November 2015 09: 10 New
      13
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!

      Right now, commentators from Israel will come and refute you laughing
    2. Thirsty for wind
      Thirsty for wind 30 November 2015 09: 24 New
      +9
      The conflict between Syria and Israel in the Golan Russia is practically not concerned, except in terms of having their own opinions. The purpose of the presence is different.
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 30 November 2015 10: 07 New
        -3
        Oh really God's chosen minus.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 30 November 2015 10: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          Oh really God's chosen minus.

          Here, I wrapped myself a ball in the ass)) laughing
        2. victorsh
          victorsh 30 November 2015 10: 46 New
          +1
          I SUPPORT !!! Egay forum users!. Go back to the forum a bit and remember YOUR comments on the treatment of ISIS bandigans in Israel. Read how outraged you are, but this (treatment and visiting villains by the Israeli Prime Minister) was not Fake. a couple of questions.
          1. Why ISIS fired at Israel, and in response, Israel fired at the SAR (the version of Israel was fired from the territory of the SAR and answer it).
          2. Why ISIS destroying D.J. their co-religionists (incorrectly said how many bows should be recaptured in the evening and EVERYTHING) calmly looks at a state that occupies Muslim lands (Palestine, Syria, Egypt).
          R.S. ISIS is a banned organization in Russia.
          1. Hello
            Hello 30 November 2015 11: 08 New
            +1
            Quote: victorsh
            I SUPPORT !!! Egay forum users!. Go back to the forum a bit and remember YOUR comments on the treatment of ISIS bandigans in Israel. Read how outraged you are, but this (treatment and visiting villains by the Israeli Prime Minister) was not Fake. a couple of questions.

            Well, if you do not provide fake please provide information, but how with that Spanish publication that recognizes terrorists from a photo in a hospital bed.
            Quote: victorsh
            1. Why ISIS fired at Israel, and in response, Israel fired at the SAR (the version of Israel was fired from the territory of the SAR and answer it).

            It is interesting to know when the IS fired on Israel and the Syrians got a response?
            Quote: victorsh
            2. Why ISIS destroying D.J. their co-religionists (incorrectly said how many bows should be recaptured in the evening and EVERYTHING) calmly looks at a state that occupies Muslim lands (Palestine, Syria, Egypt).

            Palestine is dumb. By the way, why the IG does not make any statements on South Korea? Looks, too, not everything is clean with them wink
            1. victorsh
              victorsh 30 November 2015 11: 46 New
              -4
              I understand that you have accepted this (by the way, Poroshenko confirms this). Let’s not ask a question. We read our forum and all the answers to the first and second questions, and it’s not profitable for you to recognize Palestine — you have to give the occupied territory.
              1. Hello
                Hello 30 November 2015 12: 42 New
                +6
                Quote: victorsh
                I understand that you have accepted this (by the way, Poroshenko confirms this). Let’s not ask a question. We read our forum and all the answers to the first and second questions, and it’s not profitable for you to recognize Palestine — you have to give the occupied territory.

                I understand that for some it’s more important to say stupidly without thinking, but in adults it’s customary to answer for your own words or indicate that this is specifically your opinion based on your attitude and not on facts. Or will there be facts?
                1. victorsh
                  victorsh 30 November 2015 12: 56 New
                  -7
                  Again a question for a question? For VERY Dumb ISRAELISTS - read the comments on VO.
                  1. Hello
                    Hello 30 November 2015 14: 22 New
                    +7
                    Quote: victorsh
                    Again a question for a question? For VERY Dumb ISRAELISTS - read the comments on VO.

                    Read everything or selectively? What kind of friend do you have acidic arguments? The facts will be about the treatment and visiting the broads?
    3. atalef
      atalef 30 November 2015 10: 30 New
      +4
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!

      Well, it's like the Japanese about the Kuril Islands, they say - the Kuril Islands - this is Japanese territory, wide-eyed there is no place. laughing
      1. andj61
        andj61 30 November 2015 12: 09 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!

        Well, it's like the Japanese about the Kuril Islands, they say - the Kuril Islands - this is Japanese territory, wide-eyed there is no place. laughing

        No, you still have to transfer Shikotan and Habomai to Israel! wassat

        hi
    4. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 November 2015 10: 31 New
      +5
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!
    5. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 30 November 2015 17: 54 New
      +5
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!

      So come on, take it away.
  3. azesm
    azesm 30 November 2015 09: 07 New
    0
    where do wars start ...
    http://historyndex.com
  4. Styx
    Styx 30 November 2015 09: 09 New
    +5
    That's it, that we got in touch via a radio signal, and not through a missile package: ((((And how many are mistaken in our space? And everyone flies further: ((
  5. veksha50
    veksha50 30 November 2015 09: 12 New
    +2
    ""There was a little mistake"...

    And no problems ... Let Erdogan watch and study with his prime minister ... And let Erdogan remember his words about air violations several years ago ...

    PS And why is he - Erdogan - at the reception to Putin eagerly eager ???
    1. cniza
      cniza 30 November 2015 09: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: veksha50



      PS And why is he - Erdogan - at the reception to Putin eagerly eager ???



      Wanting is not harmful, it is not grudging.
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    3. V.ic
      V.ic 30 November 2015 10: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: veksha50
      Why is he - Erdogan - at the reception to Putin eagerly eager ???

      If on a tatami, as a "bag", then easily! And the treatment of multiple fractures, hematomas and cerebral edema at the expense of Turkey.
    4. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 30 November 2015 10: 22 New
      0
      Quote: veksha50
      And why is he - Erdogan - eagerly eager for an appointment with Putin

      He wants to ask where his 32 shekels are.
    5. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 30 November 2015 11: 19 New
      +4
      Quote: veksha50
      PS And why is he - Erdogan - at the reception to Putin eagerly eager ???

      Yesterday, he already called Nazarbayev. He says that he is ready to meet with Putin on any terms and at any convenient time. The Kremlin is not directly accessible to him.
      He feels that soon his fellow citizens will buy him a ticket to the morgue.
      The Turkish tourist industry was preparing for the New Year influx of tourists from Russia, and now everything purchased and ordered, you have to eat and drink yourself.
  6. Million
    Million 30 November 2015 09: 13 New
    +5
    We are not at war with Israel, again they know about s400. They contacted us and the incident was settled. It should be so, and not otherwise
  7. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 30 November 2015 09: 14 New
    +8
    The information is old, but does not lose relevance. This is the normal work of the military departments of different countries. It is necessary to distinguish between the concepts of threat and chance. Turkey is simply overgrown. And you have to punish for it. The horse is not a decree.
  8. Decathlon
    Decathlon 30 November 2015 09: 15 New
    15
    It can be applied to Israel in different ways, but everything went quite naturally in this situation! Because Israel, for me personally, is a CIVILIZED country !!! And, not market bargainers, imagining themselves masters ...
    1. velikoros-xnumx
      velikoros-xnumx 30 November 2015 09: 21 New
      11
      Quote: Decathlon
      It can be applied to Israel in different ways, but everything went quite naturally in this situation! Because Israel, for me personally, is a CIVILIZED country !!! And, not market bargainers, imagining themselves masters ...

      And respecting its sovereignty, ready to lag behind it in spite of any international standards, without regard to the opinion of the world community. I respect these qualities of the Jews hi
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    3. Northerner
      Northerner 30 November 2015 16: 09 New
      0
      Quickly all Beirut forgot (
      1. atalef
        atalef 30 November 2015 16: 13 New
        +2
        Quote: Northerner
        Quickly all Beirut forgot (

        And what was in Beirut?
        And why is it so important to you?
      2. atalef
        atalef 30 November 2015 16: 13 New
        0
        Quote: Northerner
        Quickly all Beirut forgot (

        And what was in Beirut?
        And why is it so important to you?
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 November 2015 09: 20 New
    +2
    They immediately got in touch with him, he immediately changed course and returned to Syria

    You can’t say anything, very balanced and correct actions (although there is a question about the Golan). But this statement, according to some experts, was made at the request of Washington to show that the Russians are constantly violating the air borders. Only American analysts again did not calculate the reaction to such a statement. This can be regarded as a stone and not small in a Turkish garden.
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 30 November 2015 09: 36 New
      0
      Obviously, the "friends" from Israel were very embarrassed that their country can act at the request of Washington?
  10. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 30 November 2015 09: 28 New
    +4
    not far-sighted (((, Turkey could become a super-hub - spills of gas and oil, rams were led to the momentary havanina (((not far-sighted ...
    1. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych 30 November 2015 09: 41 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergey Sitnikov
      Turkey could become a super hub - gas and oil spills, rams were led to the momentary havanina ...

      This is all from the irrepressible desire of its ruler to be Don-Erdogan ... failed - became Erdogan-don fool
  11. Belousov
    Belousov 30 November 2015 09: 33 New
    +2
    Well, it’s not in vain that Benya Netanyahu so often flew to Moscow. So they made contact. As a result, Jews are allowed to squeeze Hesbala and its infrastructure for delivering weapons to Palestine and the Gaza Strip, but they do not fly anywhere else. Normal civilized approach.
    1. Wiski
      Wiski 30 November 2015 15: 03 New
      +5
      Fly where necessary. And if necessary they fly to Sudan.
  12. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 30 November 2015 09: 34 New
    15
    It turned out beautifully, it seemed to the Russians like they gave military honor. To the Turks a counter-counter under a shabby ass. Americans, their favorite middle finger. They showed the Arabs whose territory it is. The most important thing is to present it correctly on the air. Well done, well done.
    In the end ... Russians with all their souls will be kinder to Jews, and this often brings money. The Turks, in contrast with the Jews, now look like the same camel terrorists only slightly washed. Americans, out of jealousy for possible improved relations with Russia, will throw different nishtyaki. Well, and the Syrians most likely will not see the heights anymore.
    And for all this, it was only necessary to contact our plane, and then tell everyone about it ... well done, well, what else can you say.
  13. RusDV
    RusDV 30 November 2015 09: 41 New
    +1
    flew into our airspace one mile (1,6 kilometers)

    Such a "flight" is possible only on a bend and for about 1 second .... The Israeli message about this "incident" and even in the Syrian territory occupied by them - from the category of "how good we are." The Israelis systematically delve into Syrian territory (bombing Hezbollah), feel very uncomfortable under the S-400 radar and thus remind that they are "theirs", they say .... smile
    I have nothing against agreements with Israel (they have their own interests and they need to be respected), but such a hard-to-prove case is presented as an "incident" .... eh ...
    1. atalef
      atalef 30 November 2015 10: 37 New
      +7
      Quote: RusDV
      Such a "flight" is possible only on a bend and for about 1 second .... The Israeli message about this "incident" and even in the Syrian territory occupied by them - from the category of "how good we are

      Yes, we are smart, maybe no more than a year ago
      The Syrian army issued an official statement in connection with the destruction by the Israeli air defense of the Syrian MiG-21 over the Golan Heights.

      Quote: RusDV
      The Israelis systematically delve into Syrian territory (bombing Hezbollah), feel very uncomfortable under the S-400 radar and thus remind that they are "theirs", they say ....

      Yes, the last time they bombed yesterday, 4 days ago, etc.
      Everything is beautifully explained - we do not bother you. you to us.
      Both are fine with it.
      Quote: RusDV
      I have nothing against agreements with Israel (they have their own interests and they need to be respected), but such a hard-to-prove case is presented as an "incident" ....

      That's the conversation that there was no incident, flew in, contacted. flew away.
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    3. Kaiten
      Kaiten 30 November 2015 16: 28 New
      +1
      Quote: RusDV
      I have nothing against agreements with Israel (they have their own interests and they need to be respected), but such a hard-to-prove case is presented as an "incident" .... eh ...

      So you think that Israel needed to create an incident?
  14. AlexTires
    AlexTires 30 November 2015 09: 41 New
    +1
    There was no flight, nafig pilots need extra problems on debriefing or a mouthful of earth. This is not an air battle, where, with fright in the turmoil of the battle, you can fly out of the forbidden zone: you bombed and went home according to the worked out scheme. There, the radar dispatcher sweeps the clearing for flights, and if anything, he will tell you about the approach to the ban. And if there is a violation of the border, then it is planned. It's just that Israel decided to oppose itself to the bad Turkey, and so let the "duck" go ...
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 November 2015 10: 36 New
      0
      Quote: AlexTires
      ... It's just that Israel decided to oppose itself to the bad Turkey, and so let the "duck" go ...

      Threw shit on the fan, got pleasure? smile
  15. saveall
    saveall 30 November 2015 09: 44 New
    +2
    Kind and fluffy Israel itself periodically violates the airspace of Syria and bombs whatever it considers necessary on its territory, arguing that it is bombing Hezbollah. The last time it was on November 29th. Syria has finally become a real vinaigrette of interests that everyone seeks to extract there. "Everything is confused in the Oblonskys' house" ©.
    http://newsru.co.il/mideast/29nov2015/syr_206.html
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 30 November 2015 10: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: saveall
      Kind and fluffy Israel itself periodically violates the airspace of Syria and bombs whatever it considers necessary on its territory, arguing that it is bombing Hezbollah.

      The Israeli Air Force, not noticing the Russian "electronic bubble", is bombing the Damascus airport, for this they allow the Aerospace Forces planes to violate their air border. Allies of Russia in the fight against IS Hezbollah and Iran, who lost people and weapons, are at a loss why the Russian Aerospace Forces allow this? Backstab?
      1. saveall
        saveall 30 November 2015 10: 13 New
        +2
        So here I am about the same ... There is no "electronic bubble" for Israel. Or maybe it doesn't exist at all - there is a myth in our heads. Most likely there is some kind of agreement with them on such actions, because we have no other choice. It would be too much to enter into confrontation with Israel too.
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        2. Mera joota
          Mera joota 30 November 2015 12: 04 New
          0
          Quote: saveall
          There is no "electronic bubble" for Israel. Or maybe it doesn't exist at all - there is a myth in our heads.

          Judging by the latest events with the Su-24, this is a 100% myth. But there is definitely an agreement with Israel, the question is how the "comrades in arms" from Hezbollah and Iran treat it. They clearly do not like the fact that the Russian Aerospace Forces allow Israel to destroy them from the air.
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 30 November 2015 10: 16 New
        0
        "... why does the Russian Aerospace Forces allow this?"
        Since the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces, I don’t remember anything like that. Give a reference.
  16. SMikhalych
    SMikhalych 30 November 2015 09: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: Barkhan
    Russians with all their wide souls will be kinder to Jews ...

    Yes, yes, because "there is a quarter of our former people," as Vladimir Semyonich sang.

    Quote: Barkhan
    ... and this often brings money

    I have no doubt who: lol
    "Jewish Russian woman
    An excellent lesson will teach:
    outbid a horse
    he will sell a burning hut. "
    I. Huberman
    1. HAM
      HAM 30 November 2015 10: 11 New
      0
      You can, of course, make fun of the Jewish character (I also did this), but to CONSISTENTLY live surrounded by Arabs (identically vipers), IT SHOULD BE ABLE ...
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 November 2015 10: 38 New
      0
      Quote: SMikhalych
      "Jewish Russian woman
      An excellent lesson will teach:
      outbid a horse
      he will sell a burning hut. "

      Ours are cooler! (cry)
      1. SMikhalych
        SMikhalych 30 November 2015 11: 02 New
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        Ours are cooler! (cry)

        Offset +))))
  17. Asian
    Asian 30 November 2015 09: 58 New
    0
    The message looks very much like a duck, since there is no official information from the Moscow Region. After all, how many times it is said: use only verified (MO) information.
    Message to the ballot box.
    1. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych 30 November 2015 10: 21 New
      +5
      Quote: aziat
      The message looks very much like a duck, since there is no official information from the Moscow Region.

      And the interview with the Israeli Defense Minister is no longer a "document"? wink
      Two cowboys are jumping along the prairie, one of them is smoking a cigar:
      - Jack, with this cigar you look like a pi .... sa.
      - Ok John, I will swipe the other way ...
      Google to help, dear comrade ... No.
  18. soroKING
    soroKING 30 November 2015 10: 09 New
    0
    Quote: veksha50
    ""There was a little mistake"...

    And no problems ... Let Erdogan watch and study with his prime minister ... And let Erdogan remember his words about air violations several years ago ...

    PS And why is he - Erdogan - at the reception to Putin eagerly eager ???

    Hey, Vova ... well, I crap there, I'm sorry zats ... recourse
  19. dojjdik
    dojjdik 30 November 2015 10: 11 New
    -2
    who benefits from such nonsense, well, of course, to Israel itself so that it would continue to hang noodles about the fact that the igil is not their offspring but only the Turks
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  21. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 30 November 2015 10: 13 New
    0
    However, Israeli planes will no longer be able to bomb targets in Syria, although not so long ago it was possible and was in the interests of Israel. So our interests have cooled the interests of Israel in Syria.
    1. atalef
      atalef 30 November 2015 10: 39 New
      +6
      Quote: Black Colonel
      However, Israeli planes will no longer be able to bomb targets in Syria, although not so long ago it was possible and was in the interests of Israel. So our interests have cooled the interests of Israel in Syria.

      Yesterday was the last time. So for the info.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 30 November 2015 13: 42 New
        -1
        Quote: atalef
        Yesterday was the last time. So for info

        Yeah was according to the london observatory for human rights in syria smile
        You are no liars: Syria, Russia, Hezbollah, Iran, Iran, do not confirm it
  22. Leeder
    Leeder 30 November 2015 10: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: SMikhalych
    Quote: Now we are free
    ... and again hang around the rapids of Europe, where you (after the downed SU-24) will definitely not be taken.

    Yes, and they can be expelled from NATO ... posthumously laughing

    Never.
    Unfortunately, the Dardanelles, a strategic position to lock the World Cup fleet tightly, so they will endure. The appropriations will undoubtedly undercut, but they will endure anyway.
  23. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 30 November 2015 10: 40 New
    -1
    Who benefits from all this? Let's see. 1) Turkey. Turkey is profitable. On the one hand, Turkey has long relied on Qatari gas, which is why it did not seek contacts with Gazprom, but for Qatari gas it is necessary to remove Assad from Syria - this is Turkey's primary task. Turkey's second task is to get preferences from the EU in terms of accelerated membership, a visa-free regime and "money for refugees" to compensate for losses from the outflow of Russian tourists, which is now happening. Third, Turkey continues to sponsor ISIS, thereby remaining one of the leaders in the spread of radical Islam and, therefore, remains at the forefront of the world jihad, fulfilling the basic commandment of Islam. Losses from the severance of relations with Russia, by and large, do not greatly affect Turkey. After the introduction of a visa-free regime between the EU and Turkey, the latter compensates for its losses by the flow of tourists from the EU. Losses from breaking contracts between Russian and Turkish companies will in fact not exceed $ 1-2 billion, which is generally insignificant against the background of the preferences that Turkey receives from the EU.
    2) EU. EU profitable-Turkey’s hands EU does dirty work- sponsors ISIS and drags out the war in Syria. Secondly, in this way, the EU deprives Russia of the country's support, which was used to circumvent sanctions and supply Crimea. Thirdly, the situation has made Turkey more accommodating in terms of resolving refugee problems, etc.
    3) USA. USA is profitable. Primarily for the same reasons that this situation is beneficial for the EU. Secondly, by doing so, the United States is tightening the "anaconda ring" around Russia even tighter.
    4) Israel. Israel is profitable-Russian tourists and businessmen will now certainly support this country with their "wallets" and the withering "kibbutzim" will "flourish" again.
    5) Russia. Russia is not profitable from all sides. Not only does Russia lose the supply of cheap products, the cheap vacation spots of its citizens, it will also lose in the near future (if the situation continues to worsen) and the banking sector through which sanctions in settlements with Western banks were circumvented. In addition, we can scoop up a bunch of troubles with the passage of our ships to the Black Sea straits. I’m already silent about the fact that we have almost lost 4-6 mlpr. dollars and the remaining projects lost another tens of billions of dollars.
    But what has Russia gained in this situation, except for hemorrhoids and losses? A ghostly hope to resolve the crisis in Syria? Yes, our Western "partners" will not allow Assad to win under any scenario, it is as clear as "God's day", and any other (or others) who will replace him, will be an enemy of Russia, this is unambiguous. So, after the end of the war in Syria, Russia will not have any other preferences except for the costs of the war and losses. The war in Syria was lost even when Gaddafi was destroyed and Libya fell. No wonder sober analysts bitterly regretted that Russia "leaked" Libya, thereby signing itself, and possibly the whole world, a "death sentence."
    1. atalef
      atalef 30 November 2015 11: 04 New
      +9
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Who benefits from all this? Let's get a look. 1) Turkey. Turkey is beneficial. On the one hand, Turkey has long relied on Qatar gas.

      Something does not go well in the conclusions.
      Turkey cannot have good relations with Qatar.
      All Middle Eastern monarchies don’t carry Muslim Brotherhood
      Turkey is ready to receive prominent figures from the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt, an Islamic organization that faces expulsion from Qatar, where they found refuge after the overthrow of Islamist rule in Egypt. Recently, pressure has intensified on Qatar in the Gulf states that are hostile to the Muslim Brotherhood. On Saturday, a representative of the Muslim Brotherhood in London said the Qatari authorities asked seven leaders of the organization to leave the emirate due to pressure from neighbors.

      Quote: Monster_Fat
      Losses from the severance of relations with Russia, by and large, do not greatly affect Turkey. After the introduction of a visa-free regime between the EU and Turkey, the latter compensates for its losses by the flow of tourists from the EU.

      Europeans traveled to Turkey without visas anyway
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      ) EU. EU profitable-Turkey’s hands EU does dirty work- sponsors ISIS and drags out the war in Syria

      Let’s still separate the flies from the cutlets, Turkey does not sponsor ISIS (for all my love of Turkey, we will tell the truth) Turkey (or rather the Erdogan clan specifically) profited from ISIS oil (although Assad bought it in general)
      Turkey with refugees holds Europe for a high-rise and it excites them the most
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      USA. USA is profitable. Primarily for the same reasons that this situation is beneficial for the EU. Second, by doing so, the United States is tightening the "anaconda ring" around Russia even tighter.

      Around Erdogan, the same tkt is the donkey Erdogan already got everyone.
      Quote: Monster_Fat
      )Russia. Russia is not profitable from all sides. Not only does Russia lose the supply of cheap products, the cheap vacation spots of its citizens, it will also lose in the near future (if the situation continues to worsen) and the banking sector through which sanctions in settlements with Western banks were circumvented. In addition, we can scoop up a bunch of troubles with the passage of our ships to the Black Sea straits. I’m already silent about the fact that we have almost lost 4-6 mlpr. dollars and the remaining projects lost another tens of billions of dollars.

      Russia is losing, there is no doubt.
      But there’s nothing to be done, either you have it or you.
      Israel and Turkey had an excellent relationship before Erdogan. this udot came, broke pots, we also had some clairvoyants who convinced everyone. that we won’t live without Turkey and it’s better to smear the ass with Vaseline, but not spoil the relationship.
      Good . that neteniyahu did not fall for it.
      And nothing . still live.
      1. Monster_Fat
        Monster_Fat 30 November 2015 11: 42 New
        0
        1) Turkey, by and large, no matter whose gas goes through its territory - our or Qatari, the main thing for Turkey here is not to invest a dime in this project, and so that this gas is as cheap as possible, Qatari gas corny cheaper, and the EU and the United States insist on Qatari gas.
        2) Europeans traveled to Turkey without visas, but Turks in the EU?
        3) Turkey has always sponsored ISIS, and indeed any Islamic radicalism will continue to sponsor it.
        4) If this "donkey" "got everyone," especially the United States, it would be long gone, just like Gaddafi, Hussein and others.
        5) Israel ... We are here swearing at the EU and the US and somehow lose sight of Israel. But in vain. The ears of this disgusting little state stick out in all the Middle East conflicts. This state is afraid as hell of incense that a leader will appear in the east who will unite the Arabs and they will destroy this Jewish enclave. All of Israel's policy is based on inciting and fueling wars and enmity between Arabs. Israel operates according to the old divide and rule method. Israel has never had "good" relations with Turkey, Israel "did not touch" Turkey until it climbed into the main problem points in the Middle East, as soon as Erdogan began to claim the role of the Fuhrer of the Islamic world, these "relations" immediately "soured" - Israel does not need any "strong" Islamic leader under any circumstances.
        5) about "nothing, we live". Russia is slowly but surely isolating itself from all countries ... the loop of the "anaconda" is tightening ever tighter and tighter ... let's see how much this "so far nothing" is enough. Look, truckers from St. Petersburg have already moved to Moscow today, summer residents are next in line after the introduction of new taxes on land and real estate ...
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 30 November 2015 12: 03 New
          +3
          Israel pits its enemies away. And destroys its enemies with the hands of its enemies ... Is it really bad? Jews act in their own state interests. And note not only Jews. I would very much like Russia to do this too, and not put out Russian blood any kindled fire ...
          Isolation of Russia from the environment brings not only minuses, but also often huge pluses. Our culture has gradually begun to dissolve in the western one. And it will be a great success if we manage to contrast ourselves with the Western satanic-gay civilization ... it’s shameful for a country to be pi de ras-tom and they beat for it ..
          As for the truckers and summer residents, everything is very serious ... The elections are coming soon. Let the people think. Is it still necessary for "Edrossia" to be in power, will he still entrust his fate to these ---- people?
          If the people are happy with everything, then he likes what they are doing to him.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 30 November 2015 12: 54 New
            0
            Quote: Barkhan
            . I am proud that while in my country to be pi de ras-tom is shameful and beat for it ..

            But for example in Israel, it is very honorable that it is not in vain that they have the annual parades of the LGBT community gathering 180 thousand people each.
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 30 November 2015 15: 28 New
              +3
              I honestly did not know. I did not expect from them, such ... laughing
              180 thousand viewers? Or active participants?
              Well then, they definitely need to be afraid of ISIS.
        2. andj61
          andj61 30 November 2015 12: 42 New
          +6
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          1) Turkey, by and large, no matter whose gas goes through its territory - our or Qatari, the main thing for Turkey here is not to invest a dime in this project, and so that this gas is as cheap as possible, Qatari gas corny cheaper, and the EU and the United States insist on Qatari gas.

          Perhaps Turkey does not care whose gas will go through its territory - ours, Saudi or Qatari. Only for this it is necessary, at least, to completely overthrow Syria, or in Iraq to press the Kurds to the nail. And Turkey is not very successful in this - they have been ironing Kurdish territories with tanks and aircraft all this summer in Turkey, but they have not achieved much success. Although for some reason the "world community" does not shout about this ... request
          And to carry on a gas pipeline through Kurdish lands is more expensive for yourself!
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          2) Europeans traveled to Turkey without visas, but Turks in the EU?

          They didn’t go, and they won’t go. This question is not even on the agenda.
          Quote: Monster_Fat
          Israel's entire policy is based on inciting and fueling wars and enmity between Arabs. Israel operates according to the old divide and rule method.

          Since the creation of the state of Israel, ALL of its neighbors - Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and Transjordan, plus a number of Arab countries that do not border Israel, without even recognizing Israel’s right to exist, have begun a war against it, which Israel won.
          After that, there were several more wars - and Israel was attacked, and he attacked, but always at least did not lose. But Israel has always been willing to negotiate with the Arabs. In the brains of the leaders of his neighbors, too, everything eventually worked out in the right way, and Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon - the issues with Israel were settled. Of course, Israel acted in its own interests, but these countries also received their interest. Jordan - the territory, Lebanon - the world, which, however, was destroyed by the "refugees" of Arafat, Egypt - Sinai. Otherwise, Sharm el-Sheikh would still be Israeli. Naturally, Israel came to an agreement with everyone one by one - and what, should have come to an agreement with everyone at once?
          I did not agree only with Syria - on the Golan. And even then, the condition for the start of negotiations, Syria put forward a preliminary transfer of the Golan. But why then negotiations?
          Israel considered that under such conditions it would be easier not to give the Golan at all.
          Although it is generally surprising that Israel began to negotiate with them, all the same they just hate it, and what’s taken from the battle, it’s sacred — if they didn’t give Sinai to Egypt — our plane would not have been blown up.
        3. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 30 November 2015 13: 07 New
          +9
          "This state is afraid of the fact that a leader will appear in the east,
          which will unite the Arabs and they will destroy this Jewish enclave "////

          Already united ... in 1967, in 1973. Nothing came of it. smile
      2. Pimply
        Pimply 30 November 2015 12: 00 New
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        Israel and Turkey had an excellent relationship before Erdogan. this udot came, broke pots, we also had some clairvoyants who convinced everyone. that we won’t live without Turkey and it’s better to smear the ass with Vaseline, but not spoil the relationship.

        In fact, good relations have long been under Erdogan. But then the sultanism prevailed
      3. padded jacket
        padded jacket 30 November 2015 12: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Turkey does not sponsor ISIS (for all my love of Turkey, we will tell the truth) Turkey (or rather the Erdogan clan specifically) profited from ISIS oil (although Assad bought it in general)

        You are not quite right in fact sponsoring Daesh not only Turkey but also Israel who profit from stolen oil from Syria and Iraq.

        Quote: atalef
        Israel and Turkey had an excellent relationship before Erdogan.

        Again, you're lying, Israel had good relations and it was with Erdogan until 2010, until the Israeli commandos brutally killed 9 Turks sailing on ships of the "Peace Flotilla" with humanitarian aid to Gaza.
        So Israel is one of those who armed Erdogan who gave the order to bring down our plane and most likely Israel, if it did not participate in it, was clearly in the know.
        1. Wiski
          Wiski 30 November 2015 15: 50 New
          +1
          "Flotillas of Peace" with humanitarian aid to Gaza.


          The Palestinian Health Ministry notes that the most “garbage” in Gaza was delivered by the Turkish ship Mavi Marmara, captured by Israeli special forces on May 31 on the way to a blocked Palestinian enclave and caused an international scandal between Israel and Turkey.

          In addition to expired drugs, tons of construction materials that were not to be used were delivered to Gaza. In particular, building cement 15 years ago




          Israel, if not involved in this, was clearly in the know.


          Oh, my head is really sick.

          brutally did not kill 9 Turks sailing on ships


          They brutally did not kill. But the Turks did not have to attack the soldiers and obviously they were peaceful.

          http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA_Graphics/MFA%20Gallery/2010/5/marmaraweapons.gif

          https://youtu.be/JvS9PXZ3RWM

          https://youtu.be/0LulDJh4fWI

          Israel buys oil from the Kurds that are fighting with the Isis. Israel does not buy anything from Isis.


          In the picture video, the weapons of far from peaceful Turks as well as in the video.
          There are still shots where the gun is visible from the attackers on the soldiers, though they managed to throw much overboard
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 30 November 2015 17: 26 New
            -2
            Quote: Wiski
            Oh, my head is really sick.

            Well, this is more likely with you.
            Quote: Wiski
            In the picture video, the weapons of far from peaceful Turks as well as in the video.

            Another lie to justify the atrocities of their compatriots Israelis.
            Where did you see weapons there?
            Are disks for a computer, a player a weapon?
            Shovels from shovels or trimming wooden sticks - weapons?
            Galley table knives - weapons?
            Screwdrivers from a ship tool kit - a weapon?
            And all this against pistols, machine guns and helicopters of Israeli special forces?
            Enough to invent.
            Quote: Wiski
            Israel does not buy anything from Isis.

            Maybe you don’t buy it, but immediately change the oil to a weapon for fanatics from DAISH.
            1. Wiski
              Wiski 30 November 2015 20: 06 New
              +3
              The video clearly shows what was done with this weapon. Sticks, iron rods, knives, gun.
              All this is not fiction, but recorded on cameras.
              But the fact that the Flotilla was carrying one expired garbage, and not humanitarian aid, was even confirmed by the Palestinians themselves.

              Hence it is clear that they were carrying garbage for cover, and so there were provocateurs who attacked the soldiers and began to beat him, for which they got theirs.
              Here's an example shot of a gun. And also, if desired, you can easily find shots of stained soldiers and wounded.


              Maybe you don’t buy it, but immediately change the oil to a weapon for fanatics from DAISH.


              Not with the same success, one can believe that


              US Treasury: Assad buys oil from the Islamic State

              The US Treasury Department claims that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is buying oil from the Islamic State.

              In this regard, it imposed new sanctions against six organizations and four people who assisted the Syrian regime, in particular, helped it acquire oil from IS fighters.
            2. atalef
              atalef 30 November 2015 20: 06 New
              +3
              Quote: quilted jacket
              Another lie to justify the atrocities of their compatriots Israelis.
              Where did you see weapons there?
              Are disks for a computer, a player a weapon?
              Shovels from shovels or trimming wooden sticks - weapons?
              Galley table knives - weapons?
              Screwdrivers from a ship tool kit - a weapon?
              And all this against pistols, machine guns and helicopters of Israeli special forces?
              Enough to invent.

              Shot a little. If they were extinguished then as it should be, you see Erdogan wouldn’t be cut off and would not feel that everything was allowed to him.
          2. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 30 November 2015 18: 22 New
            +5
            Well yes... laughing It’s almost a kitchen and gardening equipment ... And a sledgehammer is a massage trainer to create good dancers ... A recipe for a green rag along the way ... Well, chains are a new accessory trend in fashion ...
            There are no good terrorists!
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 30 November 2015 18: 39 New
              -1
              Quote: Barkhan
              It’s almost a kitchen and gardening equipment ... A sledgehammer is a massage trainer to create good dancers ... A recipe for a green rag ... Well, chains are a new trend in fashion accessories

              And what about the terrorists?
              The ships of this convoy brought to Gaza food, medicine, agricultural tools (choppers, rakes), building materials and various tools like the same sledgehammers, shovels and a crowbar to parse the ruins of houses bombed by Israeli troops.
              And naturally, when the Jews attacked the convoy ships, those who were on them seized what was at hand and began to defend themselves from the attackers.
              1. atalef
                atalef 30 November 2015 20: 12 New
                +3
                Quote: quilted jacket
                And what about the terrorists?
                The ships of this convoy brought to Gaza food, medicine, agricultural tools (choppers, rakes),

                choppers and rakes, Padded jacket, do not consider all stupid you.
                The Turks and about the plane said that he systematically violated the border and was warned 10 times
                Quote: quilted jacket
                building materials and various tools like the same sledgehammers, shovels and crowbar to disassemble the ruins of houses bombed by Israeli troops.

                Yes, and the same IHH, the same thing says, only the VKS for some reason their convoy * humanitarian * laughing , has been hammering for 10 days, and today bombed the same humanitarian bakery. laughing
                Quote: quilted jacket
                And naturally, when the Jews attacked the convoy ships, those who were on them seized what was at hand and began to defend themselves from the attackers.

                Of course, the Turks were also defending themselves against the plane, and sponsoring Al Nusru they were defending themselves, and even more defensively, the Turkomans, shooting at paratroopers.
                Quince laughing fool
  24. Diviz
    Diviz 30 November 2015 11: 12 New
    +1
    It is not clear why our planes fly alone. If this is reconnaissance, then you need to fly for a moment31 although you do not have time to deploy.
  25. linen
    linen 30 November 2015 11: 24 New
    -1
    I LOVE ISRAEL! And the pilots there RUSSIAN!
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 30 November 2015 12: 22 New
      +1
      Quote: flax
      And the pilots there RUSSIAN

      I wonder where in Israel among the Jews to get Russian pilots? lol
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 30 November 2015 15: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: flax
      And the pilots there RUSSIAN!

      And the astronauts! fellow
    3. Kaiten
      Kaiten 30 November 2015 16: 36 New
      +4
      Quote: flax
      I LOVE ISRAEL! And the pilots there RUSSIAN!

      There are several pilots who speak excellent Russian. As a rule, these are guys who arrived at the age of 10-15 years.
  26. regdan
    regdan 30 November 2015 11: 27 New
    0
    Flew by accident or not by accident, now to bring down the plane will be like death. Turkaman pigs were pressed for 8 hours, after this, the mechanism of the sewn-in nature itself is activated on anyone, this is the instinct of self-preservation ...
  27. triglav
    triglav 30 November 2015 11: 45 New
    +3
    My wife and I have been resting on this land for a long time: as soon as the visas were canceled. Here our old friends live. In addition, Israel hates Turkey. And the leaders of the country (Israel) have repeatedly stated that there will never be any incidents like the one that happened with our Su-24. Which they confirmed. Anything is possible in military operations, but if there is a communication channel, it must be used like the Israelis. And the Turks - another lesson.
  28. prishelec
    prishelec 30 November 2015 13: 08 New
    0
    Oh, what "we are good", still ...!
  29. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 30 November 2015 14: 55 New
    +7
    Quote: flax
    I LOVE ISRAEL! And the pilots there RUSSIAN!


    That you respected have gone too far. The road to the officer environment is open only to those born in Israel, not without exceptions. But in the cockpit - the selection is too difficult.
    1. Hello
      Hello 30 November 2015 15: 13 New
      +2
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      The road to the officer environment is open only to those born in Israel, not without exceptions

      Where did you get this? Too many exceptions come up.
    2. atalef
      atalef 30 November 2015 15: 18 New
      +5
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      Quote: flax
      I LOVE ISRAEL! And the pilots there RUSSIAN!


      That you respected have gone too far. The road to the officer environment is open only to those born in Israel, not without exceptions. But in the cockpit - the selection is too difficult.

      Tell it to my son, the old IDF, born in Russia, and not even a Jew.
    3. atalef
      atalef 30 November 2015 15: 18 New
      0
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      Quote: flax
      I LOVE ISRAEL! And the pilots there RUSSIAN!


      That you respected have gone too far. The road to the officer environment is open only to those born in Israel, not without exceptions. But in the cockpit - the selection is too difficult.

      Tell it to my son, the old IDF, born in Russia, and not even a Jew.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 30 November 2015 17: 16 New
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        Quote: atalef
        born in Russia, and not even a Jew.

        But in this way the Jews (read the Semites, that is, the brothers of the Arabs) and become "white", that is, they mix with European nations (after all, atalef's wife is Ukrainian) and after several such marriages with Europeans, almost all signs of "real" Jews are swarthiness, the big hooked nose and others disappear and they become like the inhabitants of Europe.
        1. zahoder
          zahoder 30 November 2015 17: 35 New
          -6
          Everything is correct Vatnik. Appearance that they will replace, but the essence that, the essence of the Jewish will remain. Hebrew modernity inexpensively take !!!
          1. atalef
            atalef 30 November 2015 20: 16 New
            +4
            Quote: zahoder
            Everything is correct Vatnik. Appearance that they will replace, but the essence that, the essence of the Jewish will remain. Hebrew modernity inexpensively take !!!

            Zaoder laughing , Former Boris Zhitkov, with the return laughing
            You should be smarter than changing your nicknames, but how in Vatnik even a blind man will see an Azerbaijani in your nicknames. even the illiterate will understand hu from hu.
            1. padded jacket
              padded jacket 1 December 2015 12: 46 New
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              Quote: atalef
              will see azerbaijani

              Come on atalef "cooler" run into Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis, otherwise your jokes about shawarma are already bored and I'll laugh smile
        2. atalef
          atalef 30 November 2015 20: 14 New
          +3
          Quote: quilted jacket
          But in this way the Jews (read the Semites, that is, the brothers of the Arabs) and become "white", that is, they mix with European nations (after all, the atalef's wife is Ukrainian) and after several such marriages with Europeans, almost all the signs of "real" Jews are swarthiness, big hooked nose and others disappear and they become like the inhabitants of Europe

          And only in you. Vatnik and even blind to the touch will see a purebred, or a mixed Azerbaijani.
          Signs to say, or you yourself know wink
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 1 December 2015 12: 41 New
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            Quote: atalef
            Signs to say, or you yourself know

            Tell me most likely they are the same as your Jews laughing
    4. Kaiten
      Kaiten 30 November 2015 16: 39 New
      +5
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      That you respected have gone too far. The road to the officer environment is open only to those born in Israel, not without exceptions. But in the cockpit - the selection is too difficult.

      No, this is not so. I will not send copies of officer certificates as evidence, but believe me, this is not so.
  30. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 30 November 2015 15: 00 New
    +7
    Israel rather demonstrates independence of thinking, we will not substitute for the 'overseer', we ourselves are able to decide.
    It is already clear that the Turks acted on orders and with blessings, so vilely from an ambush. But Israel is ready to steer, very unpretentiously.
  31. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 30 November 2015 15: 38 New
    +6
    I do not care for what purpose and for what need Israel does this. But from me personally, thank you. It was at the moment they did us well. And it is against their background that Turkey looks like complete shit.
  32. pvv113
    pvv113 30 November 2015 18: 10 New
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    The Minister noted that the incident was immediately resolved through a communication channel established between the military.

    Nice to work with adequate people
  33. zahoder
    zahoder 30 November 2015 18: 26 New
    -4
    More praise odes, Israel. And the fact that they once shot down Russian pilots and are proud of it. So how many years have passed, you can forget until the next time.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 30 November 2015 19: 02 New
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      Quote: zahoder
      And the fact that they once shot down Russian pilots and are proud of it.

      Quite right, Israel killed more than a dozen Russian (Soviet) people and not only pilots. But they do not remember this, but with great joy, "splashing" with pleasure, they remember one Soviet diplomat killed by Hezbollah.
      But the difference between Israel and Hezbollah now is that Hezbollah has been actively fighting for many years with terrorists helping Syria and Iraq, but Israel is treating the very same terrorists with whom Hezbollah is fighting and now Russia is also providing them with other assistance.
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 30 November 2015 19: 07 New
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        By the way, the opinion of an Israeli expert is why Israel is so kind and doesn’t obstruct our aviation:
        Israel scared and obeyed the dictatorship of the “Russian bear”
        After the incident with a Russian plane near the Syrian-Turkish border on November 24, the Israeli military-political leadership hastened to demonstrate loyalty to the Kremlin and immediately talked about how politely and correctly it behaved in a similar situation.
        “Russia began to dictate new rules of the game in the Middle East and Israel adopted these rules ...
        In fact, the Israeli leadership agreed that Russia came to a neighboring country as a mistress, and it is the Kremlin that will decide the fate of Syria, as well as the entire Middle East region. ”
        http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/11/30/ekspert--izrail-strusil-i-podch
        inilsya-diktatu-russkogo-medvedya /
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 30 November 2015 20: 49 New
          +5
          Israel accepted our rules? belay If so ... here it’s all right, and let the rest pull themselves up. Do we really propose a bad thing? The fate of such possessed demonic Russia ... And yes, we will decide the fate of Syria and the entire Middle East!
          Experts are different, and, as a rule, they convey to the reader its opinion, or for being paid ... Today, an expert spoke out with Russian citizenship by the name of Khodorkovsky ... well, to hell with him.
          I do not flatter myself in Israel’s loyalty to us, they have their own plans, we have our own ... Israel’s plans to weaken hostile neighbors to the level of their security ... We have the same plans with our neighbors ... And I will never believe that we need strong, well-armed, independent-independent neighbors. Such neighbors will be unpredictable, and, as the story of envy will join our enemies. All plans for improvement should focus within the state. Otherwise, we will always spray resources on the ungrateful ...
  34. zahoder
    zahoder 30 November 2015 19: 12 New
    -5
    And this is a typical Semitic duplicity: both ours and yours. Shitting stealthily, bleeding and swearing and swearing at the same time: we are not like that, we are good, we’ve been a quarter past