Israel: Russian plane accidentally flew into the airspace over the Golan

The aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces mistakenly entered the airspace over the Golan, was warned and returned to Syria without incident, reports RIA News Statement by the head of the Ministry of Defense of Israel, Moshe Ya'alon.

The Minister noted that the incident was immediately resolved through a communication channel established between the military.

“There was a small error, and the pilot flew one mile (1,6 kilometers) into our airspace. They immediately contacted him, he immediately changed course and returned to Syria ",

said Yaalon.

The agency does not yet have the comments of the Russian military.

Comments

[Now we are free]

Israel beautifully threw a stone in the Turkish garden ...

In general, it seems that soon the majority of tourists from the Russian Federation who had vacationed in Turkey before will now rest on the Promised Land, and fruits and vegetables from Israel will now replace a lot of Turkish things. Eh Turks Turks ... V.V.P. he offered your idiot Erdogan to become partners in a showdown with Europe by offering him "Gas Colt" and "Nuclear Battery" ... And Erdogan turned out to be a petty scammer who expected to fuck everyone and everything in a big game and did not understand which players he was playing with and what stakes were at stake , and asked ... l (squandered) everything and authority and his country.
Now look at the growing partnership between Israel and Russia and once again hang around the rapids of Europe, where you (after the downed SU-24) will definitely not be taken.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Now we are free

Israel beautifully threw a stone to the Turkish garden ...

Even if by chance our plane didn’t fly there, then, especially for that stone, Israel through diplomatic channels should contact us with a proposal for an accidental violation of the border. It is painful to hunt to occupy the vacated reserved seat with tourists, and for this you need to show a sample of a civilized resolution of misunderstandings, including border ones.

In principle, I don’t see anything bad in such an effort - everyone thinks that his family will have enough money for a crust of bread. But I personally am better off on the Volga, to the cottage ... There, the horizon is farther than Israel on the map from left to right ...

[SMikhalych]

Quote: Zoldat_A

But I personally am better off on the Volga, to the cottage ... There, the horizon is farther than Israel on the map from left to right ...

Yes, and fishing there ... in the Volga delta ... and an ear with smoke under a fishing bike and, Lord, vodka ... oh !!!

[Temples]

The Golan Heights is a disputed territory in the Middle East, currently controlled by Israel.
From 1944 to 1967 it was part of the Syrian province of Kuneitra, captured by Israel.
So the plane flew over the territory of Syria!

Israel can of course cheat on this issue.
But the fact remains.

[PQ-18]

In general, the borders of Israel, which DOES NOT RESPECT or RECOGNIZE the territorial borders of its neighbors, are a CONSTANTLY IMAGINATED line established arbitrarily by Israel and disputed by neighboring states on their territory!
So, let Israel go with its "borders" to Ker .. (to the UN and disputes them there!)

[atalef]

Quote: PQ-18

In general, the borders of Israel, which DOES NOT RESPECT and DO NOT RECOGNIZE the territorial borders of neighbors, are a CONDITIONally IMAGINATED line recognized ONLY by Israel and NO MORE!
So, let Israel go with "its borders" to .. UN! (and there disputes them)

Boy, did you even look at the map?

[PQ-18]

Boy, did you even look at the map?

listen girl ...
in what borders is Israel recognized by your neighbors (and the UN), poke it with your MANDECURE!?
PS I am not an ANTI-Semite, but .. "these Jewish things" with borders I have doubts! ;-)

[atalef]

Quote: PQ-18

listen, girl ... in what borders is Israel recognized by your neighbors (and the UN), poke it with your MANDEcure

The existence of a peace treaty is strange (with Egypt and Jordan) - it implies recognition of borders.
Lebanon is Israel's withdrawal to the internationally recognized border. confirmed by UN resolution (in my opinion in 2001)
We have a war with Syria, so there are territorial claims (well, it's like Russia and Japan)
What other neighbors do we have?
Baby learn the mat part.

[Pimply]

Quote: atalef

We have a war with Syria, so there are territorial claims (well, it's like Russia and Japan)

Not like Russia and Japan. The situation is very different there. Radically, I would say

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: PQ-18

Boy, did you even look at the map?

listen girl ...
in what borders is Israel recognized by your neighbors (and the UN), poke it with your MANDECURE!?
PS I am not an ANTI-Semite, but .. "these Jewish things" with borders I have doubts! ;-)

An intelligent person even read that until May 1948 this territory was within the British Colonial Mandate, and all state land at that time, 93% of the entire territory of the Mandate and de jure and de facto belonged to the British Crown. What year was the first card identified there?

[Skifotavr]

Quote: atalef

Boy, did you even look at the map?

Has the granddaughter who wrote "grandpa, go to bed" already grown up?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Temples

The Golan Heights is a disputed territory in the Middle East, currently controlled by Israel.
From 1944 to 1967 it was part of the Syrian province of Kuneitra, captured by Israel.
So the plane flew over the territory of Syria!

Israel can of course cheat on this issue.
But the fact remains.

And until 1918, this territory was part of the Turkish. Empire, then until 1944 into the French Coloial Empire, then Syria, now Israel. I will not puff out my cheeks, but until the Syrians do not shine to return them. Well, no more than the Japanese return the South Kuril Islands.

[Temples]

What nonsense!
Turkish empire ???
"French Colossal Empire" ???
"I will not puff out my cheeks"

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: SMikhalych

Lord, vodka ... eh

Monday ..... a provocateur !!!

[SMikhalych]

Quote: Strezhevchanin

Quote: SMikhalych

Lord, vodka ... eh

Monday ..... a provocateur !!!

Put the chopper ...

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: SMikhalych

Put the chopper ...

This is not a chopper! This is aspirin)))

[SMikhalych]

Quote: Strezhevchanin

Quote: SMikhalych

Put the chopper ...

This is not a chopper! This is aspirin)))

More like obserin

[Baloo]

Dreams Come True. Third take it?

[SMikhalych]

Quote: Balu

Dreams Come True. Third take it?

Easy ... I ask to the table - it boiled

[Nick]

Quote: SMikhalych

Quote: Zoldat_A

But I personally am better off on the Volga, to the cottage ... There, the horizon is farther than Israel on the map from left to right ...

Yes, and fishing there ... in the Volga delta ... and an ear with smoke under a fishing bike and, Lord, vodka ... oh !!!

The main thing is that vodka is a dessert, and not the main course, as it happens among us occasionally ...

[Lelek]

Quote: SMikhalych

Yes, and fishing there ... in the Volga delta ... and an ear with smoke under a fishing bike and, Lord, vodka ... oh !!!

But the middle Volga pretty dirty. I remember they drank Volga and didn’t boil water on Irgiz, but now there’s a big risk of hepatitis and a bunch of sores to catch.
What about the fish soup - it was a lot of fun. Thank.

[evgmiz]

Do not forget to grab the address of the camp site of a relative of Serdyukovsky ...

[atalef]

Quote: Zoldat_A

It is painful to hunt to occupy the vacated reserved seat with tourists, and for this you need to show a sample of a civilized resolution of misunderstandings, including border ones.

Well, actually, I do not see any connection
. the head is not for what is in it, but for what to think.
Netanyahu, realizing Russia's intentions to enter Syria, did what any sane politician should have done.
I went to Russia and closed all positions where there could be at least some kind of conflict of interests.
Result on face
Communication channel, lack of misunderstanding, we do not bother you, you are to us.
Collaboration is good
On the issue of tourism, we are certainly glad to every Russian tourist, but we perfectly understand that we cannot be a real alternative to either Turkey or Egypt.
All the same, our price level is completely different.

[SibSlavRus]

Nevertheless, Israel, unlike the Ottomans (the historical enemies of Slavs, Orthodox civilization and the Russian world (I bow to Catherine the Great), wanted Byzantium to revive, and if not for her death, Count Suvorov would have crushed the French Revolution, turning Europe into a Russian province )) the mind lacks in its actions not to reach suicide.
Nevertheless, Russia is the progenitor of the Israeli state and for the first time in the world organized its prototype on its territory, which still exists (thanks to Joseph Vissarionovich).
It would not even be a stab in the back ...
The will of the Creator (Russia, not what many thought), according to which Israel exists, depends on the behavior and "feelings" of his brainchild. The brainchild can be very bad, but clearly not stupid.

[Sirocco]

Quote: SibSlavRus

Nevertheless, in Israel, unlike the Ottomans, the mind suffices by its actions not to reach suicide.

I wouldn’t be so self-confident, from love to hate one step,
I would not sing odes, for the glory of Israel, however much I would later have to bitterly disappoint, because Israel is in the orbit of the United States, like Turkey.

[GSH-18]

Quote: Sirocco

I would not sing odes, for the glory of Israel, however much I would later have to bitterly disappoint, because Israel is in the orbit of the United States, like Turkey.

Israel does not shoot down our bombers, unlike our former best friends in the region.
And the Turkish Air Force is now sitting on the ground on the opera exactly. The S-400 is working. They know that we need only the slightest excuse!

[Sirocco]

Quote: GSH-18

Israel does not shoot down our bombers, unlike our former best friends in the region.

Respect to Israel, although I do not see a feat in this, they act competently, in accordance with the rules and agreements.

[revnagan]

Quote: GSH-18

Israel does not shoot down our bombers, unlike our former best friends in the region.

How quickly they forgot the death of our pilots in Egypt, who were shot down by the Israelis "from around the corner."

[I read the news]

Quote: GSH-18

Israel does not shoot down our bombers

Turkey, until recently, also did not bring down.

[SibSlavRus]

Don't get it wrong, dear Sirocco.
I am a supporter of objective anti-simitism, without unnecessary emotions and feelings, only a rational approach along with the scientific and historical.
I just meant the basic instinct of self-preservation of the state of Israel.

It is the state, not the difference between Jews and Jews.

[Sirocco]

Quote: SibSlavRus

Don't get it wrong, dear Sirocco.

you know, it's hard to give up on friends. And now we have such a euphoria, it was exactly the same when the conversation went about a gas pipe to Turkey.
Bitter disappointment, isn't it? To be honest, anyway, somewhere deep down I was waiting for a dirty trick from Turkey.

[creak]

Quote: Sirocco

Bitter disappointment, isn't it?

It was rightly said in the Holy Scripture: "Truly blessed are those who do not expect anything, for they will not be disappointed ..." - it would be better to indulge oneself less with illusions about eternal friendship and love in relations with other countries - then you look and there will be less disappointment .. ..

[atalef]

Quote: SibSlavRus

I am a supporter of objective anti-simitism

those. I objectively do not like Jews

Quote: SibSlavRus

without unnecessary emotions and feelings

Quote: SibSlavRus

only a rational approach along with scientific and historical.

Historian

[andj61]

Quote: atalef

Quote: SibSlavRus
only a rational approach along with scientific and historical.
Historian

The German Nazis approached just that - rationally, objectively, without emotion, with a scientific approach - and went for crafts made from human skin, soap made from human fat, fertilizers from the ashes of burnt corpses - rationally, why "good" wasted in vain!
But this is simply the position of the same "historian" brought to the point of absurdity. And the Jews have nothing to do with it - so you can erect any crap on any person of any nationality!
And most importantly - for what reason! Israel confirmed that within the framework of the concluded agreements "interacted" to eliminate the error of our pilot - and such a comment appears! And this is instead of gratitude to Israel, or statements in the spirit - well done, they say, they observe the agreement.
Understanding this is extremely difficult!

[unsinkable]

Quote: atalef

Quote: atalef

Historian

Most of your comments have a grain of truth, so, buddy, stop throwing emotions and stop joking. You wrote: * Only a rational approach *. So stick to this. Respectfully

[kovalev2015]

This is a normal publication, although ours do not confirm this news.
In my opinion, this is another NATO "duck" to declare on occasion, on occasion, that such incidents have already happened. All lies, Jews.

[Pimply]

Quote: SibSlavRus

I am a supporter of objective anti-simitism, without unnecessary emotions and feelings, only a rational approach along with the scientific and historical.

Antesemitism is not objective. It either exists as a form of xenophobia, or it does not exist. I understand that you want to decorate your personal atavistic urges with flowers and seem to yourself better than you are. But you don’t get better from this

[unsinkable]

Quote: Sirocco

I would not sing odes

No one needs to sing the odes. The Turks sang. Get together. After two tangible blows in the back (Urkain and Turkain) you need to keep your eyes open. Collaborate with other countries, but without emotion. I think Israel’s behavior is positive, but only for now. They all want to to show that NATO has nothing to do with. It will be difficult to predict what will happen next (and not just me).

[padded jacket]

Quote: unsinkable

I think Israel’s behavior is positive, but only for the moment.

From Israel you need to expect the same blow in the back as from Turkey, it is no better than it, but most likely worse.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Sirocco

I wouldn’t be so self-confident, from love to hate one step,
I would not sing odes, for the glory of Israel, however much I would later have to bitterly disappoint, because Israel is in the orbit of the United States, like Turkey.

I agree. The sanity of our policy does not in any way mean that we are allies with Russia. Each country has its own interests.

[Pimply]

Quote: SibSlavRus

Nevertheless, Russia is the progenitor of the Israeli state and for the first time in the world organized its prototype on its territory, which still exists (thanks to Joseph Vissarionovich).

Oh, please do not carry nonsense. Immigrants from Russia played a huge role in the formation of modern Israel. Russia as a state is not. If you mean the UN, then the UN de facto consolidated the fact of an already formed structure.

[GSH-18]

Quote: atalef

Netanyahu, realizing Russia's intentions to enter Syria, did what any sane politician should have done.
I went to Russia and closed all positions where there could be at least some kind of conflict of interests.
Result on face
Communication channel, lack of misunderstanding, we do not bother you, you are to us.
Collaboration is good

Netanyahu handsome! Absolutely normal and adequate behavior. It is necessary to cooperate with such politicians. And with those that shout, we are your best friends in the region, and then out of silence our planes knock down and our soldiers fighting the terrorists are ruined!

[GSH-18]

Quote: atalef

On the issue of tourism, we are certainly glad to every Russian tourist, but we perfectly understand that we cannot be a real alternative to either Turkey or Egypt.
All the same, our price level is completely different.

The pricing policy in the conditions of a large number of tourists can be easily reviewed in favor of both Israeli hotels and in favor of our tourists.
Law of trade: more volume, lower price Waiting for an Israeli commercial offer

[atalef]

Quote: GSH-18

Quote: atalef

On the issue of tourism, we are certainly glad to every Russian tourist, but we perfectly understand that we cannot be a real alternative to either Turkey or Egypt.
All the same, our price level is completely different.

The pricing policy in the conditions of a large number of tourists can be easily reviewed in favor of both Israeli hotels and in favor of our tourists.
Law of trade: more volume, lower price Waiting for an Israeli commercial offer

Well, in general, tourists from Russia in terms of quantity hold a confident second place in Ihrail (after the states).
God grant that you came to the first.
Warm, civilized, beautiful sea, a quarter of the population speaks Russian
Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
Maybe that will be decided with this.

[GSH-18]

Quote: atalef

Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
Maybe that will be decided with this.

Yesterday on Rossiya24 (news channel) it flashed that our tour operators are negotiating with the Israeli hotel business to create mutually beneficial conditions. Somewhere even like "all-and-exclusive" in Israeli hotels seems to be possible, I've heard this out of the way .. In general, while it is being discussed, we'll see. But one thing can be said with certainty now - Turkey is in full flight next season. Ours will no longer be there Starting January 1, a visa will be introduced with Turkey and much more regarding their business.

[SMikhalych]

Quote: atalef

Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
Maybe that will be decided with this.

This was specifically mentioned in one of his recent interviews by Jacob Kedmi - traders will profit from everything. And the greater the demand, the higher the price. And he is right ...

[andj61]

Quote: atalef

Warm, civilized, beautiful sea, a quarter of the population speaks Russian
Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
Maybe that will be decided with this.

If not for the depreciation of the ruble, then the prices were completely nothing. And most importantly - there is something to see, and it is not difficult to go around the whole country. If the hotel business is decided, then maybe not in the high season and it will be possible to travel normally.

[Scoun]

Quote: atalef

Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
Maybe that will be decided with this.

More security services go too far ... many of ours (that is, I specifically about my relatives / colleagues / friends) just because of undressing are no longer riding, why the hell are they taking off my pants?
type instead of a member of a TNT checker? )))
Well, in general, a real bust takes place.

[Kaiten]

Quote: atalef

Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
Maybe that will be decided with this.

Can we hire Turks?

[atalef]

Quote: Kaiten

Quote: atalef

Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
Maybe that will be decided with this.

Can we hire Turks?

You know, I remember somewhere in 98-99, maybe the beginning of the 2000s. in short, when the deal went through (still in my opinion before Erdogan). that Israel is modernizing Turkish tanks. so in this comprehensive agreement. there was a fad that the Turks could work in Israel.
so here. the contractor drags a group of such ORLOV. to paint portals at substations, while not one of them is hellish in Hebrew and English, but to paint portals (160kV), they are disabled, first one half of the bus assemblies, then the other.
I am trying (like letting go to work) to convey to the proud fans of sheep and hamam. that you can work on the right. and on the left. kill the fuck. even if you only approach a meter.
He arranged them - drew, showed on his fingers, except that he did not dance with a tambourine.
In the end - like they understood, they are all in the gibberish language - me, me. naturlih.
climbed (they) to the portal. I'm downstairs. and suddenly my hair moved - they didn’t understand nichrome. crawl under pressure.
I'm yelling to them. zero attention. your mother, began to collect gravel and how to shoot apples to fuck.
They got off. I poured all the paint. He called a TB engineer, dragged a man speaking Turkish (we have one in the department).
I passed my authority and said. with the Turks never again in life.
D.B.I.L.Y. b ....

[Kaiten]

Quote: atalef

D.B.I.L.

I spoke with the Greek military a bit, that's who the Turks do not like. They just can't talk calmly about them.

[atalef]

Quote: Kaiten

Quote: atalef

D.B.I.L.

I spoke with the Greek military a bit, that's who the Turks do not like. They just can't talk calmly about them.

Well, I do not mind, only if they do not like. they do something, otherwise Tsipras’s words remind me of de Gaulle (who brought 1500 soldiers to Paris) and suddenly he was not only his liberator, but also among the victorious countries.
And not the love of the Greeks for the Turks, this photograph reminds me of this.
Resistance Paris to the Nazis

[Hello]

Quote: atalef

Well, in general, tourists from Russia in terms of quantity hold a confident second place in Ihrail (after the states).
God grant that you came to the first.
Warm, civilized, beautiful sea, a quarter of the population speaks Russian
Here are the prices, yes - this is a problem.
Maybe that will be decided with this.

It always seemed to me that the former USSR prevailed, and then the French. Although this is if judged by Netanya and Tel Aviv.
I agree with the prices.

[Uncle VasyaSayapin]

Not all Russian-speaking Jews go to rest in Israel from the Russian Federation, some from the USA.

[andj61]

Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin

Not all Russian-speaking Jews go to rest in Israel from the Russian Federation, some from the USA.

Of course, there were no more Jews left there, than to Israel. Although all the same, in Israel, and, especially, in the USA everyone considers Russians.

[GSH-18]

Quote: atalef

Well, in general, tourists from Russia in terms of quantity hold a confident second place in Ihrail (after the states).

Yes, on our TV set an advertisement (even before the Turkish betrayal) was and is now, about Israeli resorts and Jerusalem

[Volzhanin]

WHAT FOR? They live on a powder keg. The terrorist attack is like rain for us!
It is better to die in battle than by hand you will understand who the hell is in Israel.
Let them cook there themselves while the Arabs are engaged in a cabal.

[Bakht]

There is also a level of security at the top of pricing policy. While in Israel there are various intifada (now it seems knives), then tourists will not be very comfortable there. Given the mentality of tourists, I think that they will walk there in shorts and T-shirts. And quench vodka in liters. This is hardly a good idea. Individual tourists can go wherever they want. Even to Israel, even to Egypt, even to Turkey. But mass flow is unlikely.

[bulvas]

Quote: Bakht

Given the mentality of tourists, I think that they will walk there in shorts and T-shirts. And quench vodka in liters. This is hardly a good idea.

Was more than once in Israel, rested in Tel Aviv, Eilat, the Dead Sea

- everywhere is super. Of course there are schools, something is missing, compared with Europe, but in general - a real buzz

The main thing in Israel is complete relaxation, an atmosphere of nirvana.

Plus, there are interesting places that every Christian or person who is a little interested in history is simply obliged to visit.

Very tasty vegetables, fruits, I have never seen such anywhere else

Prices are certainly not cheap, but you need to understand that salaries in Israel are high, and defense and security expenses are not small either.

At least it’s worth a look, it’s mea house (100%)

I am glad that Russia has a mutual understanding with Israel.

My conviction is Israel - a reliable and strong country, responsible for its words,
hanging out like Mr. in the hole will not

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: bulvas

Plus, there are interesting places that every Christian or person who is a little interested in history is simply obliged to visit.

I always dreamed of going to Jerusalem, it is very interesting to see the city of world religions. But alas, in my case, desires do not coincide with the possibilities. For a military pensioner, aged and without work, this is not possible.

[Ramzaj99]

Quote: atalef

Netanyahu, realizing Russia's intentions to enter Syria, did what any sensible politician should have done. He went to Russia and closed all positions where there could be at least some kind of conflict of interests.

I support. Maybe the goals of Russia and Israel are different, nor are the interests essentially the same. And God forbid that everyone would provide and smooth out all the corners. Judging by the comments, we agreed on everything they wanted.

[atalef]

Quote: Ramzaj99

I support. Maybe Russia and Israel have different goals, no interests are essentially the same

Another great news.

The Russian Air Force attacked a bakery located in the Syrian city of Idlib, owned by the Turkish Humanitarian Aid Fund (IHH). It was this foundation that organized in 2010 the so-called "freedom flotilla" designed to break the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip.


According to IHH representatives, the bakery was opened 16 months ago. Its capacity was 65.000 loaves of bread per day, which met the needs

let the sand eat.

[Kaiten]

Quote: atalef

It was this fund that organized in 2010 the so-called "freedom flotilla" designed to break the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip.

How symbolic ... Israel started, Russia finished.

[atalef]

Quote: Ramzaj99

I support. Maybe Russia and Israel have different goals, no interests are essentially the same

Another great news.

The Russian Air Force attacked a bakery located in the Syrian city of Idlib, owned by the Turkish Humanitarian Aid Fund (IHH). It was this foundation that organized in 2010 the so-called "freedom flotilla" designed to break the Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip.


According to IHH representatives, the bakery was opened 16 months ago. Its capacity was 65.000 loaves of bread per day, which met the needs

let the sand eat.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: atalef

All the same, our price level is completely different.

Sasha, you also drive your "chikatils", people who may even be afraid.

[atalef]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

Quote: atalef

All the same, our price level is completely different.

Sasha, you also drive your "chikatils", people who may even be afraid.

Hey . Vladimir
We can handle this as well. Not in the first.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: atalef

We can handle this as well. Not in the first.

Hello, Sasha.
I believe that someday you can handle it, I always support you. But just as I already wrote to get in and see how you got there, it probably will not work out anymore, elderly military pensioners have no such opportunities. A pity, sincerely.

[wanderer]

Vladimir. All you need is a bit over fifty dollars, plenty of time ahead, dig up yes come)! You won’t regret it.

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: wanderer

Vladimir. All you need is a bit over fifty dollars, plenty of time ahead, dig up yes come)! You won’t regret it.

Tempter You, colleague. I do not hide that I want to see Israel, and I understand that what you have there is interesting for tourists. Wait and see. And thanks for the kind comment.

[atalef]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

You managed, it probably will not work out already, no such elderly military pensioners have such opportunities. A pity, sincerely.

Everything will work out, I believe in it, sincerely!

[Vladimir 1964]

Quote: atalef

Everything will work out, I believe in it, sincerely!

Thank you, Alexander. I am always glad to see you on the site.

[andj61]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Vladimir 1964

Quote: atalef

All the same, our price level is completely different.

Sasha, you also drive your "chikatils", people who may even be afraid.

Hey . Vladimir
We can handle this as well. Not in the first.

But you know, Alexander, the Russians, for some reason, are not afraid of such crap. We are more interested in other questions, more mercantile - where is it better - on the Red Sea or the Mediterranean, and how much time to devote to both, is it worth staying longer at the Dead Sea for more than a few hours, is two days enough to inspect Jerusalem, is there any point in stopping by Orthodox churches and missions located in Israel, as well as - for those especially inquisitive - where to personally look at the Israeli military. Even "all inclusive" in relation to Israel is not very interesting; whoever needs it will always find everything, and with constant moving, when you don't stay in one place for more than three or four nights, this is not very important.

[atalef]

Quote: Vladimir 1964

Quote: atalef

All the same, our price level is completely different.

Sasha, you also drive your "chikatils", people who may even be afraid.

Hey . Vladimir
We can handle this as well. Not in the first.

[GSH-18]

“There was a small error, and the pilot flew one mile (1,6 kilometers) into our airspace. They immediately contacted him, he immediately changed course and returned to Syria ",
said Yaalon.

Oh how! It turns out you can just agree. True, the Turks for some reason do not know about it .. Well, all the worse for them. Welcome to the no-fly zone gentlemen of the Ottomans!

[sssla]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Even if by chance our plane didn’t fly there

But what about the statements of Russian officials and non-officials that the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces is equipped with equipment of such navigation accuracy, up to 1 meter, that it’s NOT REAL to break someone’s border !! Or am I not understanding something ?? !!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Israel: Russian plane accidentally flew into the airspace over the Golan

"Since Russian planes are not going to strike at us, there is no need to automatically shoot them down," Ya'alon said.

"Just as we do not prevent them from acting and do not interfere with what is happening in Syria ... just as they do not prevent us from flying and acting in accordance with our interests," the minister continued.

He added that the agreements of the military of the two countries on the prevention of conflict in the Syrian sky provide for mandatory informing the Russian side of flights near Israeli borders.

"We have created an open channel of communication to avoid misunderstandings ... They tell us when they fly close to the Golan," said Ya'alon.
http://3mv.ru/publ/izrail_samolet_vks_rossii_sluchajno_zashel_v_prostranstvo_nad
_golanami / 1-1-0-51016 this is how everything is decided humanly.

[cniza]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

[Just as we do not prevent them from acting and do not interfere with what is happening in Syria ... just as they do not prevent us from flying and acting in accordance with our interests, "the minister continued.

The normal solution to even very complex issues is a click on Erdogan’s nose.

[good7]

They don’t have to beat with a click, but they plow the border with Greece with a sledgehammer and they don’t care at all, but then they didn’t do anything different, don’t shoot down our planes - this is aggression!

[SMikhalych]

Quote: Now we are free

... and again hang around the rapids of Europe, where you (after the downed SU-24) will definitely not be taken.

Yes, and they can be expelled from NATO ... posthumously

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

The United States is not stupid, Turkey from NATO will not exclude 700 thousand warriors are not superfluous.

[SibSlavRus]

DIVAN SOLDIER: "The United States is not stupid, Turkey will not be excluded from NATO by 700 thousand warriors who are not superfluous."

You are absolutely right. I will add on my own behalf: these are soldiers doing the "dirtiest" work for NATO. They especially distinguished themselves, in my memory, during the bombing of Former Yugoslavia, of Serbian positions both in 1995 and in 1999.

And of course, the regional irritant and the southern flank of NATO are ideal for American AUGs and military bases.

Classical tellurocracy and thalassocracy in geopolitics (sea and land power).

[good7]

Threw a stone? Entered in accordance with international standards! Anyway, Israel, don’t say - civilization! Lovers of Arab lawlessness can minus!

[Bayonet]

Quote: Now we are free

In general, it seems that soon the majority of tourists from the Russian Federation who had previously vacationed in Turkey will now rest on the promised land

Most unlikely, prices will not allow it. Look at travel agency sites.

[Hello]

Quote: Bayonet

Most unlikely, prices will not allow it. Look at travel agency sites.

Absolutely, unfortunately Israel loses a lot to Turkey and Egypt in terms of price. So I think you should not expect tourist hype. Rather, the hype will be in Greece and Cyprus.

[gjv]

Quote: Now we are free

V.V.P. your idiot Erdogan was offered to become partners in a showdown with Europe, offering him "Gas Colt" and "Nuclear Battery" ... And Erdogan turned out to be a petty scammer

Erdogan, not a fool, but an ambitious and consistent Turkish Islamist Hitler leading Turkey to the Sultan (Ottoman) Great Port (ay Poles with their Greater Poland from sea to sea)! This was announced in 2010 by Deputy Baghdasarov at a State Duma hearing on the construction of a nuclear power plant in Turkey on a Russian loan. However, they didn’t listen to Bagdasarov! The oligarchic-liberalistic thirst for the money grew blindfolded and took priority. Now reaping! When will the minds of Russian politicians move to the head ?!

[Altona]

Quote: Now we are free

Israel beautifully threw a stone in the Turkish garden ...

-------------------------
He showed an example of polite and civilized cooperation in the sky, in contrast to the barbaric and primitive Turkish attitude towards our VKS ...

[vodolaz]

Well, let's start with the fact that our plane did not fly into Turkey at all and it was a stab in the back, and Israel did exactly what it should do.

[Angry orc]

this incident can be interpreted in a different way, for example, our "partners" may declare that Russian aircraft have poor navigation and they fly where they don't

[Adhesives]

Israel and Russia will not become strategic partners. But it’s great that we take into account the interests of each other whenever possible. And we are developing economic and cultural relations. And you are welcome to visit Israel.

[Ze Kot]

Did a plane accidentally fly into Israeli airspace?


And I also thought about tourism ... As early as Friday ... If the price is reduced, then the people will go ...

[padded jacket]

Quote: The Cat

And I also thought about tourism ... As early as Friday ... If the price is reduced, then the people will go ...

Israel purpose for excursions a place frankly not safe there is a civil war. And the prices, as you rightly said, are extremely high.
Again, going to the territory of a state that occupies the lands of another state is, to put it mildly, not quite right.
And this is perfectly understood by all tourists, not only from Russia but also from Western countries, so Israel is worried.
In the first half of 2015, the demand for hotels in Israel fell by 25%
The hotel business association is sounding the alarm. The report, published on July 22 by the economic department of the association, indicates that in the first half of 2015, the number of tourists staying in Israeli hotels was reduced by 25%.
http://newsru.co.il/israel/22jul2015/hotels_008.html

[Volzhanin]

Is that a goat’s bayan?
We have a huge territory, a huge country! What nowhere else to rest? Yes, we have such places - all world resorts quietly smoke on the sidelines!
We need to develop our tourism infrastructure and invest money there, and not in someone else's.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Volzhanin

We have a huge territory, a huge country! What nowhere else to rest? Yes, we have such places - all world resorts quietly smoke on the sidelines!

Absolutely right now it is necessary at least "gently" to restrict tourism to other countries, especially in those where terrorist attacks are committed or there is a sluggish civil war.
And of course, we must develop our tourism and hotel business with all our strength, so that we would get work and revenue from this, not Moishe, Smith or Hans.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: quilted jacket

Quote: Volzhanin

We have a huge territory, a huge country! What nowhere else to rest? Yes, we have such places - all world resorts quietly smoke on the sidelines!

Absolutely right now it is necessary at least "gently" to restrict tourism to other countries, especially in those where terrorist attacks are committed or there is a sluggish civil war.
And of course, we must develop our tourism and hotel business with all our strength, so that we would get work and revenue from this, not Moishe, Smith or Hans.

Expensive, however. Why did the people go to "Egypt, Turkey"? There the prices were lower and the service was higher. Somewhere in Russia, probably, there are places where you can have a good and inexpensive vacation, but people do not really know about them.

[Adhesives]

So it is, but people in winter want to soak up the sun in the sun on the seashore ...

[Ze Kot]

I want to go to the Dead Sea before it finally "died".

[Abrekkos]

This is yes. Israel is not Turkey. He has no imperial ambitions. She won’t do anything wrong. Is it that the back of the stick will hurt Turkey here by chance ...

But here they are vindictive. They didn’t let me in. Although I don’t ...

Yes, and it was the past ...

[Adhesives]

And what kind of past is the case for which they did not let go?

[SRC P-15]

In order to poke Erdogan with his nose, it will do.

[vovanpain]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

In order to poke Erdogan with his nose, it’s quite fine

And they hit a hardogan like a kitten nuzzling a nose into a puddle, and this stuffed turkish sleeping and sees Putin meeting at the summit, as it were, and the Israelites acted as normal people should.

[Vikings]

No, not quite! Yeshe must answer for our pilot, and
marines!

[Kasym]

Bibi is a man with his head, although I do not like his policy. Imagine if a plane hits. Israel is a small state in size, so Russia will quickly organize a no-fly zone. Do they need it? Bibi was the first to realize what was happening and flew to Moscow to agree.

[Adhesives]

Well this is unlikely. Until now, all the battles between the Israeli and Soviet air forces ended in favor of our flyers. But if there is an opportunity to painlessly avoid conflict, then this is what you need to do ... After all, a won battle is an averted battle ...

[Stanislas]

Quote: Lepila

all fights between the Israeli and Soviet air forces ended in favor of our flyers

You are probably talking about the battle over El Sokhna. Indeed, Israel's air ambush was professional and honest, unlike Turkey, "partners", their mother! But "all fights" is probably an artistic exaggeration, hyperbole. Apart from this operation, thank God, we did not have any more serious contractions. Correct if I'm wrong.

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!

[0255]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!

Right now, commentators from Israel will come and refute you

[Thirsty for wind]

The conflict between Syria and Israel in the Golan Russia is practically not concerned, except in terms of having their own opinions. The purpose of the presence is different.

[DIVAN SOLDIER]

Oh really God's chosen minus.

[Sirocco]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Oh really God's chosen minus.

Here, I wrapped myself a ball in the ass))

[victorsh]

I SUPPORT !!! Egay forum users!. Go back to the forum a bit and remember YOUR comments on the treatment of ISIS bandigans in Israel. Read how outraged you are, but this (treatment and visiting villains by the Israeli Prime Minister) was not Fake. a couple of questions.
1. Why ISIS fired at Israel, and in response, Israel fired at the SAR (the version of Israel was fired from the territory of the SAR and answer it).
2. Why ISIS destroying D.J. their co-religionists (incorrectly said how many bows should be recaptured in the evening and EVERYTHING) calmly looks at a state that occupies Muslim lands (Palestine, Syria, Egypt).
R.S. ISIS is a banned organization in Russia.

[Hello]

Quote: victorsh

I SUPPORT !!! Egay forum users!. Go back to the forum a bit and remember YOUR comments on the treatment of ISIS bandigans in Israel. Read how outraged you are, but this (treatment and visiting villains by the Israeli Prime Minister) was not Fake. a couple of questions.

Well, if you do not provide fake please provide information, but how with that Spanish publication that recognizes terrorists from a photo in a hospital bed.

Quote: victorsh

1. Why ISIS fired at Israel, and in response, Israel fired at the SAR (the version of Israel was fired from the territory of the SAR and answer it).

It is interesting to know when the IS fired on Israel and the Syrians got a response?

Quote: victorsh

2. Why ISIS destroying D.J. their co-religionists (incorrectly said how many bows should be recaptured in the evening and EVERYTHING) calmly looks at a state that occupies Muslim lands (Palestine, Syria, Egypt).

Palestine is dumb. By the way, why the IG does not make any statements on South Korea? Looks, too, not everything is clean with them

[victorsh]

I understand that you have accepted this (by the way, Poroshenko confirms this). Let’s not ask a question. We read our forum and all the answers to the first and second questions, and it’s not profitable for you to recognize Palestine — you have to give the occupied territory.

[Hello]

Quote: victorsh

I understand that you have accepted this (by the way, Poroshenko confirms this). Let’s not ask a question. We read our forum and all the answers to the first and second questions, and it’s not profitable for you to recognize Palestine — you have to give the occupied territory.

I understand that for some it’s more important to say stupidly without thinking, but in adults it’s customary to answer for your own words or indicate that this is specifically your opinion based on your attitude and not on facts. Or will there be facts?

[victorsh]

Again a question for a question? For VERY Dumb ISRAELISTS - read the comments on VO.

[Hello]

Quote: victorsh

Again a question for a question? For VERY Dumb ISRAELISTS - read the comments on VO.

Read everything or selectively? What kind of friend do you have acidic arguments? The facts will be about the treatment and visiting the broads?

[atalef]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!

Well, it's like the Japanese about the Kuril Islands, they say - the Kuril Islands - this is Japanese territory, wide-eyed there is no place.

[andj61]

Quote: atalef

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!

Well, it's like the Japanese about the Kuril Islands, they say - the Kuril Islands - this is Japanese territory, wide-eyed there is no place.

No, you still have to transfer Shikotan and Habomai to Israel!

[Bayonet]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER

Golan is Syrian territory !!! Burry there is no place !!!

So come on, take it away.

[azesm]

where do wars start ...
http://historyndex.com

[Styx]

That's it, that we got in touch via a radio signal, and not through a missile package: ((((And how many are mistaken in our space? And everyone flies further: ((

[veksha50]

""There was a little mistake"...

And no problems ... Let Erdogan watch and study with his prime minister ... And let Erdogan remember his words about air violations several years ago ...

PS And why is he - Erdogan - at the reception to Putin eagerly eager ???

[cniza]

Quote: veksha50

PS And why is he - Erdogan - at the reception to Putin eagerly eager ???

Wanting is not harmful, it is not grudging.

[V.ic]

Quote: veksha50

Why is he - Erdogan - at the reception to Putin eagerly eager ???

If on a tatami, as a "bag", then easily! And the treatment of multiple fractures, hematomas and cerebral edema at the expense of Turkey.

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: veksha50

And why is he - Erdogan - eagerly eager for an appointment with Putin

He wants to ask where his 32 shekels are.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: veksha50

PS And why is he - Erdogan - at the reception to Putin eagerly eager ???

Yesterday, he already called Nazarbayev. He says that he is ready to meet with Putin on any terms and at any convenient time. The Kremlin is not directly accessible to him.
He feels that soon his fellow citizens will buy him a ticket to the morgue.
The Turkish tourist industry was preparing for the New Year influx of tourists from Russia, and now everything purchased and ordered, you have to eat and drink yourself.

[Million]

We are not at war with Israel, again they know about s400. They contacted us and the incident was settled. It should be so, and not otherwise

[dchegrinec]

The information is old, but does not lose relevance. This is the normal work of the military departments of different countries. It is necessary to distinguish between the concepts of threat and chance. Turkey is simply overgrown. And you have to punish for it. The horse is not a decree.

[Decathlon]

It can be applied to Israel in different ways, but everything went quite naturally in this situation! Because Israel, for me personally, is a CIVILIZED country !!! And, not market bargainers, imagining themselves masters ...

[velikoros-xnumx]

Quote: Decathlon

It can be applied to Israel in different ways, but everything went quite naturally in this situation! Because Israel, for me personally, is a CIVILIZED country !!! And, not market bargainers, imagining themselves masters ...

And respecting its sovereignty, ready to lag behind it in spite of any international standards, without regard to the opinion of the world community. I respect these qualities of the Jews

[Northerner]

Quickly all Beirut forgot (

[atalef]

Quote: Northerner

Quickly all Beirut forgot (

And what was in Beirut?
And why is it so important to you?

[atalef]

Quote: Northerner

Quickly all Beirut forgot (

And what was in Beirut?
And why is it so important to you?

[rotmistr60]

They immediately got in touch with him, he immediately changed course and returned to Syria

You can’t say anything, very balanced and correct actions (although there is a question about the Golan). But this statement, according to some experts, was made at the request of Washington to show that the Russians are constantly violating the air borders. Only American analysts again did not calculate the reaction to such a statement. This can be regarded as a stone and not small in a Turkish garden.

[rotmistr60]

Obviously, the "friends" from Israel were very embarrassed that their country can act at the request of Washington?

[Sergey Sitnikov]

not far-sighted (((, Turkey could become a super-hub - spills of gas and oil, rams were led to the momentary havanina (((not far-sighted ...

[SMikhalych]

Quote: Sergey Sitnikov

Turkey could become a super hub - gas and oil spills, rams were led to the momentary havanina ...

This is all from the irrepressible desire of its ruler to be Don-Erdogan ... failed - became Erdogan-don

[Belousov]

Well, it’s not in vain that Benya Netanyahu so often flew to Moscow. So they made contact. As a result, Jews are allowed to squeeze Hesbala and its infrastructure for delivering weapons to Palestine and the Gaza Strip, but they do not fly anywhere else. Normal civilized approach.

[Whiskey]

Fly where necessary. And if necessary they fly to Sudan.

[BARKHAN]

It turned out beautifully, it seemed to the Russians like they gave military honor. To the Turks a counter-counter under a shabby ass. Americans, their favorite middle finger. They showed the Arabs whose territory it is. The most important thing is to present it correctly on the air. Well done, well done.
In the end ... Russians with all their souls will be kinder to Jews, and this often brings money. The Turks, in contrast with the Jews, now look like the same camel terrorists only slightly washed. Americans, out of jealousy for possible improved relations with Russia, will throw different nishtyaki. Well, and the Syrians most likely will not see the heights anymore.
And for all this, it was only necessary to contact our plane, and then tell everyone about it ... well done, well, what else can you say.

[RusDV]

flew into our airspace one mile (1,6 kilometers)

Such a "flight" is possible only on a bend and for about 1 second .... The Israeli message about this "incident" and even in the Syrian territory occupied by them - from the category of "how good we are." The Israelis systematically delve into Syrian territory (bombing Hezbollah), feel very uncomfortable under the S-400 radar and thus remind that they are "theirs", they say ....
I have nothing against agreements with Israel (they have their own interests and they need to be respected), but such a hard-to-prove case is presented as an "incident" .... eh ...

[atalef]

Quote: RusDV

Such a "flight" is possible only on a bend and for about 1 second .... The Israeli message about this "incident" and even in the Syrian territory occupied by them - from the category of "how good we are

Yes, we are smart, maybe no more than a year ago

The Syrian army issued an official statement in connection with the destruction by the Israeli air defense of the Syrian MiG-21 over the Golan Heights.

Quote: RusDV

The Israelis systematically delve into Syrian territory (bombing Hezbollah), feel very uncomfortable under the S-400 radar and thus remind that they are "theirs", they say ....

Yes, the last time they bombed yesterday, 4 days ago, etc.
Everything is beautifully explained - we do not bother you. you to us.
Both are fine with it.

Quote: RusDV

I have nothing against agreements with Israel (they have their own interests and they need to be respected), but such a hard-to-prove case is presented as an "incident" ....

That's the conversation that there was no incident, flew in, contacted. flew away.

[Kaiten]

Quote: RusDV

I have nothing against agreements with Israel (they have their own interests and they need to be respected), but such a hard-to-prove case is presented as an "incident" .... eh ...

So you think that Israel needed to create an incident?

[AlexTires]

There was no flight, nafig pilots need extra problems on debriefing or a mouthful of earth. This is not an air battle, where, with fright in the turmoil of the battle, you can fly out of the forbidden zone: you bombed and went home according to the worked out scheme. There, the radar dispatcher sweeps the clearing for flights, and if anything, he will tell you about the approach to the ban. And if there is a violation of the border, then it is planned. It's just that Israel decided to oppose itself to the bad Turkey, and so let the "duck" go ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: AlexTires

... It's just that Israel decided to oppose itself to the bad Turkey, and so let the "duck" go ...

Threw shit on the fan, got pleasure?

[saveall]

Kind and fluffy Israel itself periodically violates the airspace of Syria and bombs whatever it considers necessary on its territory, arguing that it is bombing Hezbollah. The last time it was on November 29th. Syria has finally become a real vinaigrette of interests that everyone seeks to extract there. "Everything is confused in the Oblonskys' house" ©.
http://newsru.co.il/mideast/29nov2015/syr_206.html

[Mera joota]

Quote: saveall

Kind and fluffy Israel itself periodically violates the airspace of Syria and bombs whatever it considers necessary on its territory, arguing that it is bombing Hezbollah.

The Israeli Air Force, not noticing the Russian "electronic bubble", is bombing the Damascus airport, for this they allow the Aerospace Forces planes to violate their air border. Allies of Russia in the fight against IS Hezbollah and Iran, who lost people and weapons, are at a loss why the Russian Aerospace Forces allow this? Backstab?

[saveall]

So here I am about the same ... There is no "electronic bubble" for Israel. Or maybe it doesn't exist at all - there is a myth in our heads. Most likely there is some kind of agreement with them on such actions, because we have no other choice. It would be too much to enter into confrontation with Israel too.

[Mera joota]

Quote: saveall

There is no "electronic bubble" for Israel. Or maybe it doesn't exist at all - there is a myth in our heads.

Judging by the latest events with the Su-24, this is a 100% myth. But there is definitely an agreement with Israel, the question is how the "comrades in arms" from Hezbollah and Iran treat it. They clearly do not like the fact that the Russian Aerospace Forces allow Israel to destroy them from the air.

[Black Colonel]

"... why does the Russian Aerospace Forces allow this?"
Since the operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces, I don’t remember anything like that. Give a reference.

[SMikhalych]

Quote: Barkhan

Russians with all their wide souls will be kinder to Jews ...

Yes, yes, because "there is a quarter of our former people," as Vladimir Semyonich sang.

Quote: Barkhan

... and this often brings money

I have no doubt who:
"Jewish Russian woman
An excellent lesson will teach:
outbid a horse
he will sell a burning hut. "
I. Huberman

[HAM]

You can, of course, make fun of the Jewish character (I also did this), but to CONSISTENTLY live surrounded by Arabs (identically vipers), IT SHOULD BE ABLE ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: SMikhalych

"Jewish Russian woman
An excellent lesson will teach:
outbid a horse
he will sell a burning hut. "

Ours are cooler! (cry)

[SMikhalych]

Quote: Bayonet

Ours are cooler! (cry)

Offset +))))

[Asian]

The message looks very much like a duck, since there is no official information from the Moscow Region. After all, how many times it is said: use only verified (MO) information.
Message to the ballot box.

[SMikhalych]

Quote: aziat

The message looks very much like a duck, since there is no official information from the Moscow Region.

And the interview with the Israeli Defense Minister is no longer a "document"?
Two cowboys are jumping along the prairie, one of them is smoking a cigar:
- Jack, with this cigar you look like a pi .... sa.
- Ok John, I will swipe the other way ...
Google to help, dear comrade ...

[soroKING]

Quote: veksha50

""There was a little mistake"...

And no problems ... Let Erdogan watch and study with his prime minister ... And let Erdogan remember his words about air violations several years ago ...

PS And why is he - Erdogan - at the reception to Putin eagerly eager ???

Hey, Vova ... well, I crap there, I'm sorry zats ...

[dojjdik]

who benefits from such nonsense, well, of course, to Israel itself so that it would continue to hang noodles about the fact that the igil is not their offspring but only the Turks

[Black Colonel]

However, Israeli planes will no longer be able to bomb targets in Syria, although not so long ago it was possible and was in the interests of Israel. So our interests have cooled the interests of Israel in Syria.

[atalef]

Quote: Black Colonel

However, Israeli planes will no longer be able to bomb targets in Syria, although not so long ago it was possible and was in the interests of Israel. So our interests have cooled the interests of Israel in Syria.

Yesterday was the last time. So for the info.

[padded jacket]

Quote: atalef

Yesterday was the last time. So for info

Yeah was according to the london observatory for human rights in syria
You are no liars: Syria, Russia, Hezbollah, Iran, Iran, do not confirm it

[Leeder]

Quote: SMikhalych

Quote: Now we are free

... and again hang around the rapids of Europe, where you (after the downed SU-24) will definitely not be taken.

Yes, and they can be expelled from NATO ... posthumously

Never.
Unfortunately, the Dardanelles, a strategic position to lock the World Cup fleet tightly, so they will endure. The appropriations will undoubtedly undercut, but they will endure anyway.

[Monster_Fat]

Who benefits from all this? Let's see. 1) Turkey. Turkey is profitable. On the one hand, Turkey has long relied on Qatari gas, which is why it did not seek contacts with Gazprom, but for Qatari gas it is necessary to remove Assad from Syria - this is Turkey's primary task. Turkey's second task is to get preferences from the EU in terms of accelerated membership, a visa-free regime and "money for refugees" to compensate for losses from the outflow of Russian tourists, which is now happening. Third, Turkey continues to sponsor ISIS, thereby remaining one of the leaders in the spread of radical Islam and, therefore, remains at the forefront of the world jihad, fulfilling the basic commandment of Islam. Losses from the severance of relations with Russia, by and large, do not greatly affect Turkey. After the introduction of a visa-free regime between the EU and Turkey, the latter compensates for its losses by the flow of tourists from the EU. Losses from breaking contracts between Russian and Turkish companies will in fact not exceed $ 1-2 billion, which is generally insignificant against the background of the preferences that Turkey receives from the EU.
2) EU. EU profitable-Turkey’s hands EU does dirty work- sponsors ISIS and drags out the war in Syria. Secondly, in this way, the EU deprives Russia of the country's support, which was used to circumvent sanctions and supply Crimea. Thirdly, the situation has made Turkey more accommodating in terms of resolving refugee problems, etc.
3) USA. USA is profitable. Primarily for the same reasons that this situation is beneficial for the EU. Secondly, by doing so, the United States is tightening the "anaconda ring" around Russia even tighter.
4) Israel. Israel is profitable-Russian tourists and businessmen will now certainly support this country with their "wallets" and the withering "kibbutzim" will "flourish" again.
5) Russia. Russia is not profitable from all sides. Not only does Russia lose the supply of cheap products, the cheap vacation spots of its citizens, it will also lose in the near future (if the situation continues to worsen) and the banking sector through which sanctions in settlements with Western banks were circumvented. In addition, we can scoop up a bunch of troubles with the passage of our ships to the Black Sea straits. I’m already silent about the fact that we have almost lost 4-6 mlpr. dollars and the remaining projects lost another tens of billions of dollars.
But what has Russia gained in this situation, except for hemorrhoids and losses? A ghostly hope to resolve the crisis in Syria? Yes, our Western "partners" will not allow Assad to win under any scenario, it is as clear as "God's day", and any other (or others) who will replace him, will be an enemy of Russia, this is unambiguous. So, after the end of the war in Syria, Russia will not have any other preferences except for the costs of the war and losses. The war in Syria was lost even when Gaddafi was destroyed and Libya fell. No wonder sober analysts bitterly regretted that Russia "leaked" Libya, thereby signing itself, and possibly the whole world, a "death sentence."

[atalef]

Quote: Monster_Fat

Who benefits from all this? Let's get a look. 1) Turkey. Turkey is beneficial. On the one hand, Turkey has long relied on Qatar gas.

Something does not go well in the conclusions.
Turkey cannot have good relations with Qatar.
All Middle Eastern monarchies don’t carry Muslim Brotherhood

Turkey is ready to receive prominent figures from the Muslim Brotherhood of Egypt, an Islamic organization that faces expulsion from Qatar, where they found refuge after the overthrow of Islamist rule in Egypt. Recently, pressure has intensified on Qatar in the Gulf states that are hostile to the Muslim Brotherhood. On Saturday, a representative of the Muslim Brotherhood in London said the Qatari authorities asked seven leaders of the organization to leave the emirate due to pressure from neighbors.

Quote: Monster_Fat

Losses from the severance of relations with Russia, by and large, do not greatly affect Turkey. After the introduction of a visa-free regime between the EU and Turkey, the latter compensates for its losses by the flow of tourists from the EU.

Europeans traveled to Turkey without visas anyway

Quote: Monster_Fat

) EU. EU profitable-Turkey’s hands EU does dirty work- sponsors ISIS and drags out the war in Syria

Let’s still separate the flies from the cutlets, Turkey does not sponsor ISIS (for all my love of Turkey, we will tell the truth) Turkey (or rather the Erdogan clan specifically) profited from ISIS oil (although Assad bought it in general)
Turkey with refugees holds Europe for a high-rise and it excites them the most

Quote: Monster_Fat

USA. USA is profitable. Primarily for the same reasons that this situation is beneficial for the EU. Second, by doing so, the United States is tightening the "anaconda ring" around Russia even tighter.

Around Erdogan, the same tkt is the donkey Erdogan already got everyone.

Quote: Monster_Fat

)Russia. Russia is not profitable from all sides. Not only does Russia lose the supply of cheap products, the cheap vacation spots of its citizens, it will also lose in the near future (if the situation continues to worsen) and the banking sector through which sanctions in settlements with Western banks were circumvented. In addition, we can scoop up a bunch of troubles with the passage of our ships to the Black Sea straits. I’m already silent about the fact that we have almost lost 4-6 mlpr. dollars and the remaining projects lost another tens of billions of dollars.

Russia is losing, there is no doubt.
But there’s nothing to be done, either you have it or you.
Israel and Turkey had an excellent relationship before Erdogan. this udot came, broke pots, we also had some clairvoyants who convinced everyone. that we won’t live without Turkey and it’s better to smear the ass with Vaseline, but not spoil the relationship.
Good . that neteniyahu did not fall for it.
And nothing . still live.

[Monster_Fat]

1) Turkey, by and large, no matter whose gas goes through its territory - our or Qatari, the main thing for Turkey here is not to invest a dime in this project, and so that this gas is as cheap as possible, Qatari gas corny cheaper, and the EU and the United States insist on Qatari gas.
2) Europeans traveled to Turkey without visas, but Turks in the EU?
3) Turkey has always sponsored ISIS, and indeed any Islamic radicalism will continue to sponsor it.
4) If this "donkey" "got everyone," especially the United States, it would be long gone, just like Gaddafi, Hussein and others.
5) Israel ... We are here swearing at the EU and the US and somehow lose sight of Israel. But in vain. The ears of this disgusting little state stick out in all the Middle East conflicts. This state is afraid as hell of incense that a leader will appear in the east who will unite the Arabs and they will destroy this Jewish enclave. All of Israel's policy is based on inciting and fueling wars and enmity between Arabs. Israel operates according to the old divide and rule method. Israel has never had "good" relations with Turkey, Israel "did not touch" Turkey until it climbed into the main problem points in the Middle East, as soon as Erdogan began to claim the role of the Fuhrer of the Islamic world, these "relations" immediately "soured" - Israel does not need any "strong" Islamic leader under any circumstances.
5) about "nothing, we live". Russia is slowly but surely isolating itself from all countries ... the loop of the "anaconda" is tightening ever tighter and tighter ... let's see how much this "so far nothing" is enough. Look, truckers from St. Petersburg have already moved to Moscow today, summer residents are next in line after the introduction of new taxes on land and real estate ...

[BARKHAN]

Israel pits its enemies away. And destroys its enemies with the hands of its enemies ... Is it really bad? Jews act in their own state interests. And note not only Jews. I would very much like Russia to do this too, and not put out Russian blood any kindled fire ...
Isolation of Russia from the environment brings not only minuses, but also often huge pluses. Our culture has gradually begun to dissolve in the western one. And it will be a great success if we manage to contrast ourselves with the Western satanic-gay civilization ... it’s shameful for a country to be pi de ras-tom and they beat for it ..
As for the truckers and summer residents, everything is very serious ... The elections are coming soon. Let the people think. Is it still necessary for "Edrossia" to be in power, will he still entrust his fate to these ---- people?
If the people are happy with everything, then he likes what they are doing to him.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Barkhan

. I am proud that while in my country to be pi de ras-tom is shameful and beat for it ..

But for example in Israel, it is very honorable that it is not in vain that they have the annual parades of the LGBT community gathering 180 thousand people each.

[BARKHAN]

I honestly did not know. I did not expect from them, such ...
180 thousand viewers? Or active participants?
Well then, they definitely need to be afraid of ISIS.

[andj61]

Quote: Monster_Fat

1) Turkey, by and large, no matter whose gas goes through its territory - our or Qatari, the main thing for Turkey here is not to invest a dime in this project, and so that this gas is as cheap as possible, Qatari gas corny cheaper, and the EU and the United States insist on Qatari gas.

Perhaps Turkey does not care whose gas will go through its territory - ours, Saudi or Qatari. Only for this it is necessary, at least, to completely overthrow Syria, or in Iraq to press the Kurds to the nail. And Turkey is not very successful in this - they have been ironing Kurdish territories with tanks and aircraft all this summer in Turkey, but they have not achieved much success. Although for some reason the "world community" does not shout about this ...
And to carry on a gas pipeline through Kurdish lands is more expensive for yourself!

Quote: Monster_Fat

2) Europeans traveled to Turkey without visas, but Turks in the EU?

They didn’t go, and they won’t go. This question is not even on the agenda.

Quote: Monster_Fat

Israel's entire policy is based on inciting and fueling wars and enmity between Arabs. Israel operates according to the old divide and rule method.

Since the creation of the state of Israel, ALL of its neighbors - Syria, Egypt, Lebanon and Transjordan, plus a number of Arab countries that do not border Israel, without even recognizing Israel’s right to exist, have begun a war against it, which Israel won.
After that, there were several more wars - and Israel was attacked, and he attacked, but always at least did not lose. But Israel has always been willing to negotiate with the Arabs. In the brains of the leaders of his neighbors, too, everything eventually worked out in the right way, and Egypt, Jordan, Lebanon - the issues with Israel were settled. Of course, Israel acted in its own interests, but these countries also received their interest. Jordan - the territory, Lebanon - the world, which, however, was destroyed by the "refugees" of Arafat, Egypt - Sinai. Otherwise, Sharm el-Sheikh would still be Israeli. Naturally, Israel came to an agreement with everyone one by one - and what, should have come to an agreement with everyone at once?
I did not agree only with Syria - on the Golan. And even then, the condition for the start of negotiations, Syria put forward a preliminary transfer of the Golan. But why then negotiations?
Israel considered that under such conditions it would be easier not to give the Golan at all.
Although it is generally surprising that Israel began to negotiate with them, all the same they just hate it, and what’s taken from the battle, it’s sacred — if they didn’t give Sinai to Egypt — our plane would not have been blown up.

[voyaka uh]

"This state is afraid of the fact that a leader will appear in the east,
which will unite the Arabs and they will destroy this Jewish enclave "////

Already united ... in 1967, in 1973. Nothing came of it.

[Pimply]

Quote: atalef

Israel and Turkey had an excellent relationship before Erdogan. this udot came, broke pots, we also had some clairvoyants who convinced everyone. that we won’t live without Turkey and it’s better to smear the ass with Vaseline, but not spoil the relationship.

In fact, good relations have long been under Erdogan. But then the sultanism prevailed

[padded jacket]

Quote: atalef

Turkey does not sponsor ISIS (for all my love of Turkey, we will tell the truth) Turkey (or rather the Erdogan clan specifically) profited from ISIS oil (although Assad bought it in general)

You are not quite right in fact sponsoring Daesh not only Turkey but also Israel who profit from stolen oil from Syria and Iraq.

Quote: atalef

Israel and Turkey had an excellent relationship before Erdogan.

Again, you're lying, Israel had good relations and it was with Erdogan until 2010, until the Israeli commandos brutally killed 9 Turks sailing on ships of the "Peace Flotilla" with humanitarian aid to Gaza.
So Israel is one of those who armed Erdogan who gave the order to bring down our plane and most likely Israel, if it did not participate in it, was clearly in the know.

[Whiskey]

"Flotillas of Peace" with humanitarian aid to Gaza.

The Palestinian Health Ministry notes that the most “garbage” in Gaza was delivered by the Turkish ship Mavi Marmara, captured by Israeli special forces on May 31 on the way to a blocked Palestinian enclave and caused an international scandal between Israel and Turkey.

In addition to expired drugs, tons of construction materials that were not to be used were delivered to Gaza. In particular, building cement 15 years ago

Israel, if not involved in this, was clearly in the know.

Oh, my head is really sick.

brutally did not kill 9 Turks sailing on ships

They brutally did not kill. But the Turks did not have to attack the soldiers and obviously they were peaceful.

http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA_Graphics/MFA%20Gallery/2010/5/marmaraweapons.gif

https://youtu.be/JvS9PXZ3RWM

https://youtu.be/0LulDJh4fWI

Israel buys oil from the Kurds that are fighting with the Isis. Israel does not buy anything from Isis.


In the picture video, the weapons of far from peaceful Turks as well as in the video.
There are still shots where the gun is visible from the attackers on the soldiers, though they managed to throw much overboard

[padded jacket]

Quote: Wiski

Oh, my head is really sick.

Well, this is more likely with you.

Quote: Wiski

In the picture video, the weapons of far from peaceful Turks as well as in the video.

Another lie to justify the atrocities of their compatriots Israelis.
Where did you see weapons there?
Are disks for a computer, a player a weapon?
Shovels from shovels or trimming wooden sticks - weapons?
Galley table knives - weapons?
Screwdrivers from a ship tool kit - a weapon?
And all this against pistols, machine guns and helicopters of Israeli special forces?
Enough to invent.

Quote: Wiski

Israel does not buy anything from Isis.

Maybe you don’t buy it, but immediately change the oil to a weapon for fanatics from DAISH.

[Whiskey]

The video clearly shows what was done with this weapon. Sticks, iron rods, knives, gun.
All this is not fiction, but recorded on cameras.
But the fact that the Flotilla was carrying one expired garbage, and not humanitarian aid, was even confirmed by the Palestinians themselves.

Hence it is clear that they were carrying garbage for cover, and so there were provocateurs who attacked the soldiers and began to beat him, for which they got theirs.
Here's an example shot of a gun. And also, if desired, you can easily find shots of stained soldiers and wounded.

Maybe you don’t buy it, but immediately change the oil to a weapon for fanatics from DAISH.

Not with the same success, one can believe that


US Treasury: Assad buys oil from the Islamic State

The US Treasury Department claims that Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is buying oil from the Islamic State.

In this regard, it imposed new sanctions against six organizations and four people who assisted the Syrian regime, in particular, helped it acquire oil from IS fighters.

[atalef]

Quote: quilted jacket

Another lie to justify the atrocities of their compatriots Israelis.
Where did you see weapons there?
Are disks for a computer, a player a weapon?
Shovels from shovels or trimming wooden sticks - weapons?
Galley table knives - weapons?
Screwdrivers from a ship tool kit - a weapon?
And all this against pistols, machine guns and helicopters of Israeli special forces?
Enough to invent.

Shot a little. If they were extinguished then as it should be, you see Erdogan wouldn’t be cut off and would not feel that everything was allowed to him.

[BARKHAN]

Well yes... It’s almost a kitchen and gardening equipment ... And a sledgehammer is a massage trainer to create good dancers ... A recipe for a green rag along the way ... Well, chains are a new accessory trend in fashion ...
There are no good terrorists!

[padded jacket]

Quote: Barkhan

It’s almost a kitchen and gardening equipment ... A sledgehammer is a massage trainer to create good dancers ... A recipe for a green rag ... Well, chains are a new trend in fashion accessories

And what about the terrorists?
The ships of this convoy brought to Gaza food, medicine, agricultural tools (choppers, rakes), building materials and various tools like the same sledgehammers, shovels and a crowbar to parse the ruins of houses bombed by Israeli troops.
And naturally, when the Jews attacked the convoy ships, those who were on them seized what was at hand and began to defend themselves from the attackers.

[atalef]

Quote: quilted jacket

And what about the terrorists?
The ships of this convoy brought to Gaza food, medicine, agricultural tools (choppers, rakes),

choppers and rakes, Padded jacket, do not consider all stupid you.
The Turks and about the plane said that he systematically violated the border and was warned 10 times

Quote: quilted jacket

building materials and various tools like the same sledgehammers, shovels and crowbar to disassemble the ruins of houses bombed by Israeli troops.

Yes, and the same IHH, the same thing says, only the VKS for some reason their convoy * humanitarian * , has been hammering for 10 days, and today bombed the same humanitarian bakery.

Quote: quilted jacket

And naturally, when the Jews attacked the convoy ships, those who were on them seized what was at hand and began to defend themselves from the attackers.

Of course, the Turks were also defending themselves against the plane, and sponsoring Al Nusru they were defending themselves, and even more defensively, the Turkomans, shooting at paratroopers.
Quince

[Diviz]

It is not clear why our planes fly alone. If this is reconnaissance, then you need to fly for a moment31 although you do not have time to deploy.

[linen]

I LOVE ISRAEL! And the pilots there RUSSIAN!

[padded jacket]

Quote: flax

And the pilots there RUSSIAN

I wonder where in Israel among the Jews to get Russian pilots?

[Bayonet]

Quote: flax

And the pilots there RUSSIAN!

And the astronauts!

[Kaiten]

Quote: flax

I LOVE ISRAEL! And the pilots there RUSSIAN!

There are several pilots who speak excellent Russian. As a rule, these are guys who arrived at the age of 10-15 years.

[regdan]

Flew by accident or not by accident, now to bring down the plane will be like death. Turkaman pigs were pressed for 8 hours, after this, the mechanism of the sewn-in nature itself is activated on anyone, this is the instinct of self-preservation ...

[triglav]

My wife and I have been resting on this land for a long time: as soon as the visas were canceled. Here our old friends live. In addition, Israel hates Turkey. And the leaders of the country (Israel) have repeatedly stated that there will never be any incidents like the one that happened with our Su-24. Which they confirmed. Anything is possible in military operations, but if there is a communication channel, it must be used like the Israelis. And the Turks - another lesson.

[prishelec]

Oh, what "we are good", still ...!

[Pete mitchell]

Quote: flax

I LOVE ISRAEL! And the pilots there RUSSIAN!

That you respected have gone too far. The road to the officer environment is open only to those born in Israel, not without exceptions. But in the cockpit - the selection is too difficult.

[Hello]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

The road to the officer environment is open only to those born in Israel, not without exceptions

Where did you get this? Too many exceptions come up.

[atalef]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: flax

I LOVE ISRAEL! And the pilots there RUSSIAN!

That you respected have gone too far. The road to the officer environment is open only to those born in Israel, not without exceptions. But in the cockpit - the selection is too difficult.

Tell it to my son, the old IDF, born in Russia, and not even a Jew.

[atalef]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

Quote: flax

I LOVE ISRAEL! And the pilots there RUSSIAN!

That you respected have gone too far. The road to the officer environment is open only to those born in Israel, not without exceptions. But in the cockpit - the selection is too difficult.

Tell it to my son, the old IDF, born in Russia, and not even a Jew.

[padded jacket]

Quote: atalef

born in Russia, and not even a Jew.

But in this way the Jews (read the Semites, that is, the brothers of the Arabs) and become "white", that is, they mix with European nations (after all, atalef's wife is Ukrainian) and after several such marriages with Europeans, almost all signs of "real" Jews are swarthiness, the big hooked nose and others disappear and they become like the inhabitants of Europe.

[zahoder]

Everything is correct Vatnik. Appearance that they will replace, but the essence that, the essence of the Jewish will remain. Hebrew modernity inexpensively take !!!

[atalef]

Quote: zahoder

Everything is correct Vatnik. Appearance that they will replace, but the essence that, the essence of the Jewish will remain. Hebrew modernity inexpensively take !!!

Zaoder , Former Boris Zhitkov, with the return
You should be smarter than changing your nicknames, but how in Vatnik even a blind man will see an Azerbaijani in your nicknames. even the illiterate will understand hu from hu.

[padded jacket]

Quote: atalef

will see azerbaijani

Come on atalef "cooler" run into Azerbaijan and Azerbaijanis, otherwise your jokes about shawarma are already bored and I'll laugh

[atalef]

Quote: quilted jacket

But in this way the Jews (read the Semites, that is, the brothers of the Arabs) and become "white", that is, they mix with European nations (after all, the atalef's wife is Ukrainian) and after several such marriages with Europeans, almost all the signs of "real" Jews are swarthiness, big hooked nose and others disappear and they become like the inhabitants of Europe

And only in you. Vatnik and even blind to the touch will see a purebred, or a mixed Azerbaijani.
Signs to say, or you yourself know

[padded jacket]

Quote: atalef

Signs to say, or you yourself know

Tell me most likely they are the same as your Jews

[Kaiten]

Quote: Pete Mitchell

That you respected have gone too far. The road to the officer environment is open only to those born in Israel, not without exceptions. But in the cockpit - the selection is too difficult.

No, this is not so. I will not send copies of officer certificates as evidence, but believe me, this is not so.

[Pete mitchell]

Israel rather demonstrates independence of thinking, we will not substitute for the 'overseer', we ourselves are able to decide.
It is already clear that the Turks acted on orders and with blessings, so vilely from an ambush. But Israel is ready to steer, very unpretentiously.

[BARKHAN]

I do not care for what purpose and for what need Israel does this. But from me personally, thank you. It was at the moment they did us well. And it is against their background that Turkey looks like complete shit.

[pvv113]

The Minister noted that the incident was immediately resolved through a communication channel established between the military.

Nice to work with adequate people

[zahoder]

More praise odes, Israel. And the fact that they once shot down Russian pilots and are proud of it. So how many years have passed, you can forget until the next time.

[padded jacket]

Quote: zahoder

And the fact that they once shot down Russian pilots and are proud of it.

Quite right, Israel killed more than a dozen Russian (Soviet) people and not only pilots. But they do not remember this, but with great joy, "splashing" with pleasure, they remember one Soviet diplomat killed by Hezbollah.
But the difference between Israel and Hezbollah now is that Hezbollah has been actively fighting for many years with terrorists helping Syria and Iraq, but Israel is treating the very same terrorists with whom Hezbollah is fighting and now Russia is also providing them with other assistance.

[padded jacket]

By the way, the opinion of an Israeli expert is why Israel is so kind and doesn’t obstruct our aviation:
Israel scared and obeyed the dictatorship of the “Russian bear”
After the incident with a Russian plane near the Syrian-Turkish border on November 24, the Israeli military-political leadership hastened to demonstrate loyalty to the Kremlin and immediately talked about how politely and correctly it behaved in a similar situation.
“Russia began to dictate new rules of the game in the Middle East and Israel adopted these rules ...
In fact, the Israeli leadership agreed that Russia came to a neighboring country as a mistress, and it is the Kremlin that will decide the fate of Syria, as well as the entire Middle East region. ”
http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/11/30/ekspert--izrail-strusil-i-podch
inilsya-diktatu-russkogo-medvedya /

[BARKHAN]

Israel accepted our rules? If so ... here it’s all right, and let the rest pull themselves up. Do we really propose a bad thing? The fate of such possessed demonic Russia ... And yes, we will decide the fate of Syria and the entire Middle East!
Experts are different, and, as a rule, they convey to the reader its opinion, or for being paid ... Today, an expert spoke out with Russian citizenship by the name of Khodorkovsky ... well, to hell with him.
I do not flatter myself in Israel’s loyalty to us, they have their own plans, we have our own ... Israel’s plans to weaken hostile neighbors to the level of their security ... We have the same plans with our neighbors ... And I will never believe that we need strong, well-armed, independent-independent neighbors. Such neighbors will be unpredictable, and, as the story of envy will join our enemies. All plans for improvement should focus within the state. Otherwise, we will always spray resources on the ungrateful ...

[zahoder]

And this is a typical Semitic duplicity: both ours and yours. Shitting stealthily, bleeding and swearing and swearing at the same time: we are not like that, we are good, we’ve been a quarter past