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The attack on the Russian bomber was an attempt by the West to seize the military initiative in resolving the Syrian conflict.

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The active involvement of Russian aerospace forces in the fight against international terrorist groups operating in Syria did not inspire Western politicians and military strategists. Moreover, the effective actions of our pilots forced the foreign ministers of the pro-American coalition to sit down at the negotiating table in Vienna, together with the foreign ministers of Russia, Iran and China.


The attack on the Russian bomber was an attempt by the West to seize the military initiative in resolving the Syrian conflict.


Turkish President pushed into the line of fire

While diplomats checked their lists (who should be bombed and where), evaluated the prospects for a political settlement of the Syrian crisis, the leaders of the North Atlantic Alliance made their direct military conclusion - Russia seized the initiative in the Middle East, and its containment regime becomes again relevant.

This was noticed by the Russian permanent representative to NATO, Alexander Grushko. In early November, he shared his observations on the Russia 24 channel. Soon the military alliance ceased to hide intentions. At the Berlin Security Conference-2015, NATO Deputy Secretary General Alexander Vershbow said for the first time publicly: “After the collapse of the USSR, the West instead of restraining Russia directed efforts to develop friendship and partnership with it and Eastern European countries, but current events require a return to containment policy.”

Vershbow admitted that these approaches resemble the times of the Cold War, but the challenges of the times force the Western allies to "be strong enough that others would fear attacking us." Commander-in-Chief of the NATO Joint Armed Forces in Europe, American General Philippe Breedlove clarified the position that the alliance no longer views Russians as partners.

At the G20 summit in Belek, Turkey, US President Obama already knew about the moods of the American generals. Therefore, at his short meeting with Vladimir Putin, it was not about joint actions against terrorist groups, but about how to avoid military clashes of military pilots of our countries in the skies of Syria. Among other things, we agreed to share information on which echelons, where and when the aircraft will operate.

At the summit, Barack Obama had meetings with his closest allies. A message flashed across the web, as if the Turkish president had asked the American for permission to destroy Russian aircraft in his border area. Obama seems to nod a Turk in response. Like it or not - now it does not matter. Firstly, it is quite obvious that the Turkish authorities had reasons for dissatisfaction with Russia. After all, our military seriously destroyed the plans of the Turks, and even hit their thieves' income. Secondly, subsequent events showed that the actions of the planes of the western coalition in the Turkish border area were not just coordinated, but even joint.

This was noticed by a military expert, an expert in the use of the Military Space Forces, Alexei Leonkov. He noted that the attack on the Su-24М2 of the Russian HQ had been planned in advance by Turkey and its military partners. “Our plane was waited in ambush by Turkish interceptors, a sabotage and reconnaissance group disguised as local Turkomans was located on the ground, the crews of CNN and FOX were delivered in advance ...”, I quote REGNUM.

It’s not so easy to accurately ambush a high-speed target. One aircraft does not provide this maneuver. The Turks had reliable assistants, even a few. As the military expert says, the operation developed as follows: “The US Air Force Boeing E-3 Sentry AWACS plane took off on November 24 from Preveza airbase in Greece. The second E-3A Saudi Air Force took off from the Riyadh airbase. Both aircraft performed one common task - determining the exact location of the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Force. They chose the "victim". The accuracy of the F-16CJ fighter aircraft was additionally provided by the Patriot US air defense systems deployed in Turkey, or rather their multifunctional radar. "

This was confirmed on Friday by the commander-in-chief of the Russian Aerospace Force Viktor Bondarev. According to him, “the way the aircraft F-16C exits into the zone of permitted launches, not following the chase curve, indicates that the fighter is pointing from a ground control point”.

Alexey Leonkov set forth in some detail the development of this multi-vector operation to destroy the Russian bomber. It was based on information that, by agreement of the presidents of the two countries, was shared by our military with the Americans.

Washington was informed in advance about “where, when and at what levels our pilots will work. The American side, which heads the coalition, which includes Turkey, knew about the place and time of our aircraft, and it was there that we received a blow at that time, ”Vladimir Putin admitted last Thursday at a joint press conference with the French president.

Instead of fighting terrorists, Americans fight for their leadership


In short, the operation was pre-planned and agreed. It was not by chance that after its completion, the Turkish president turned to allies for support and asked for an emergency meeting of NATO ambassadors to be convened. This meeting was to demonstrate the determination and unity of the North Atlantic alliance to Russia. Did not work out.

The reaction of our leaders was unexpected for NATO politicians. Instead of blaming and repenting, Moscow has utterly harshly defined its position - it is ready to sever relations with Turkey and punish her for the death of the aircraft and the Russian military, using all the possibilities of the Ministry of Defense.

In addition, French President Francois Hollande made a splinter among Western politicians. Demoralized by the terrorist attacks in Paris, he moved around the world, gathering a broad coalition to fight terrorist groups in the Middle East.

Admittedly, the mission of Hollande was initially a failure. First of all, because the Paris tragedy is less connected with the Middle East than with homegrown terrorists, of whom a dime a dozen bred in Europe. After the November tragedy, French investigators found the nests of terrorists in the Paris quarter of Saint-Denis, in the émigré district of Brussels, Molenbeek and even in the capital’s airports.

According to police prefect Philippe Riffaud, only at Charles de Gaulle airport, 57 workers were fired on suspicion of radical views. Here, after the introduction of the state of emergency in France, searches were carried out, copies of radical Islamist publications were found in workers' lockers. Other examples of the fact that the main terrorist threat to the Europeans are, above all, local migrants, more precisely, their children - in the second and even third generations have been revealed.

The French president decided to fight terrorism, gathering the leading nations of the planet under a single banner. And this was his second mistake. The fact is that the initiative in resolving the Middle East crisis and the destruction of terrorist groups has firmly passed to Russia. For a month and a half, its military did more than a coalition of sixty states headed by America in the two preceding years.

The world appreciated it. Today, the authority of the United States suffered a painful blow. Therefore, in Washington, the French President was met very coolly. To integrate with number two in a coalition with Russian Americans is somehow out of hand. In addition, the innocent Hollande did not take into account that the United States had already moved from partner relations to the containment regime of Russia - in other words, to confrontation.

Retired General John Allen, appointed by the White House as coordinator for US interaction with other countries in the fight against the IG grouping, just before the start of the Russian VKS operation in Latakia, told CNN on television that a confrontation between the US and the Russian Federation was possible in Syria.

It was substantively designated when the first bombs from Russian aircraft still did not fall on the heads of terrorists. The representative of the US State Department, Admiral John Kirby, informed the local media that the purpose of Russia in Syria is not to fight the “Islamic State”, but to destroy the “moderate opposition”.

After a week of work of our aircraft in the Syrian sky, the actions of the western coalition became systemic and coordinated. Turkish Foreign Ministry 7 October issued a statement, drawn up on behalf of the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Saudi Arabia and Qatar, in which Russia was called to stop strikes against moderate Syrian opposition objects and focus on fighting the IG

The reason for such informational pressure was explained by the former US representative to the UN, John Bolton. The retired diplomat told Voice of America radio station listeners: “The overall goal of Vladimir Putin is that Russia replace the United States as the main external force in the Middle East.” The answer from the American side, in Bolton’s opinion, should be to move away from Obama’s vague Middle Eastern policy: “We need to develop a new strategy, possibly involving the creation of a new Sunni state as an alternative to ISIL and breaking the Russian-Iranian axis.”

Dragging the border ...

Against such a background, the French president, who signed the October statement condemning Russia's actions, came to Vladimir Putin to create a broad coalition in Syria. Admittedly, in this failed mission, the parties were able to save face - they agreed to exchange intelligence information. It was even possible to bring the positions together somewhat.

After meetings in Moscow, French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius spoke about cooperation with the Assad government forces, the British news agency Reuters reported. Hollande even called for closing the Syrian-Turkish border used today for supplies to Islamic terrorists weapons, equipment, food.

The topic is actively entered the Americans. They felt that the government forces of Syria could perform this work, and the Western coalition would remain out of work again. As the New York-based business newspaper The Wall Street Journal reported on Friday with reference to its sources in the State Department, "The United States is putting pressure on Turkey to deploy an additional few thousand soldiers along the border with Syria." This host should block the militants in Syrian territory.

US officials say that the additional contingent on the Turkish border, which will include infantry and artillery, can effectively block the key transit routes of Islamic terrorists and stop the flow of foreign fighters to Europe. “The rules of the game have changed,” the Wall Street Journal quoted the representative of the US administration. “There is a threat of an international scale, it comes from Syria and passes through the territory of Turkey.” The Turkish authorities understood the last message in their own way: they again started talking not only about closing the border, but also about the security zone in Syrian territory. Once again, the Turks confirmed their intentions to control the land where the Turkomans close to them live.

So instead of cooperation and interaction within the framework of the wide coalition proposed by Hollande, a new hotbed of contention is emerging today. There is another attempt to seize the military initiative in the Middle East. She definitely won't add peace and harmony ...
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  1. parusnik
    parusnik 30 November 2015 06: 39 New
    +9
    "The United States is putting pressure on Turkey to deploy an additional several thousand troops along the border with Syria."..Only, it seems to me not to fight terrorists, but to escalate the conflict .. INFA was on the Internet, the Turks fired .. Syrian troops on the border ..
    1. shooter18
      shooter18 30 November 2015 13: 54 New
      +1
      Yes, the Americans are playing back the old card, again they want to pit Turkey and Russia, and thereby stop Russia and again freely rule in the Middle East and Europe ..
  2. andrey777
    andrey777 30 November 2015 06: 39 New
    11
    The Turks are our old enemy for nearly 600 years. So I think it’s not worth waiting for something good from them, you need to prepare for war.
    1. Throw
      Throw 30 November 2015 06: 47 New
      +1
      Again they pulled out this "wide iksperd for application" with its conspiracy theory ..
      It was already: http: //topwar.ru/86916-v-atake-turcii-na-su-24-uchastvovali-ssha-i-saudov
      ska
      ya-araviya.html # comment-id-5282385
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 30 November 2015 21: 32 New
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        Throw

        There is no hint of conspiracy theory in the article. The article contains a consistent logic of events.

        By the way, I agree with the author that the village of Holland has a strange role in the whole situation.
  3. Same lech
    Same lech 30 November 2015 06: 48 New
    +4
    The attack on the Russian bomber was an attempt by the West to seize the military initiative in resolving the Syrian conflict.


    It didn’t work ... or rather, it turned out with the exact opposite.

    The videoconferencing system installed in Syria S400 now legally for protection against attacks on our NATO aircraft.

    Erdogan great set up NATO .... now NATO looks around the world as an aggressor.
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 30 November 2015 08: 25 New
      +5
      Quote: The same Lech
      It didn’t work ... or rather, it turned out with the exact opposite.

      It didn’t work, thanks to Oleg Peshkov, according to the idea of ​​these organizers, the SU-24 was supposed to crash in Turkey, it was attacked only 1 km from the border, and judging by the map, Peshkov turned away the damaged plane from the border, for which he and ours recognition and gratitude. Otherwise, they would not have laundered. Everything is similar to the scenario in the Donbass, the provocation also failed there, the plane crashed in Ukraine.
      1. 1976AG
        1976AG 30 November 2015 09: 49 New
        +2
        If the damaged aircraft is controlled, then any crew will try to reach the base, or at least to the territory controlled by its (allied) troops. But I didn’t notice something, so that the Su-24 was controlled after the defeat. In addition, judging by the scheme published by the Moscow Region, he was already flying in the opposite direction from the border. Therefore, do not engage in speculation. Our pilots, and so heroes, do not need fictitious merits.
        1. Sirocco
          Sirocco 30 November 2015 10: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: 1976AG
          Therefore, do not speculate.

          The speculation here you are dear, with your eyesight like, look at the map above, how he moved, before the defeat and after. Or look at the press conference of the Moscow Region, there is a larger and wider map.
          Quote: 1976AG
          But I didn’t notice something, so that the Su-24 was controlled after the defeat.

          And I did not find, since I did not see the source of the video, and was not present there. You were there?
          I conclude, according to the report and the map with the routes of the aircraft.
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 30 November 2015 10: 15 New
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            By the way, I’m relying on the data from the press conference where the “bigger and wider map”. First, the aircraft made a turn in the direction opposite to the border, and then it was hit by a rocket.
    2. Mera joota
      Mera joota 30 November 2015 10: 39 New
      -5
      Quote: The same Lech
      The videoconferencing system installed in Syria S400 now legally for protection against attacks on our NATO aircraft.

      Was the S-400 already in Syria at that time, or do you naively believe that the complex was removed from combat duty during the day, manned to the full and delivered to Syria by ship? The version with instant delivery by plane is not accepted, the S-400 does not fit into the transporter. Yes, and one removal from the b / d a lot of time requires, not to mention the completion of the calculation.
      So at that time, the S-400 was already deployed in Syria and this did not help. Like the notorious "electronic bubble"
      Weeping NATO: Giant electronic bubble in Syria keeps us flying

      Oh, how much they have gotten involved in this topic, over NATO, the Americans and their "other minions," they say, "Russia steers here!" and oops ... the Turks, without noticing the bubble, shot down our plane right near our very air base, where the electronic warfare and S-400 are located.
      1. opus
        opus 30 November 2015 23: 55 New
        +1
        Quote: Mera Joota
        day complex removed from combat duty, staffed in full and ship delivered to Syria?


        Quote: Mera Joota
        The version with instant delivery by plane is not accepted, the S-400 does not fit into the transporter.

        I do not believe my eyes (mine)


        (The Russian Ministry of Defense published footage of unloading the S-400 anti-aircraft missile system from the An-124 Ruslan military transport aircraft in Syria at the Khmeimim airbase.)

        fake fool ?



        As of November 2015, 26 aircraft are in service with the Russian Air Force, of which 10 are operational.

        In addition, the An-124 is operated by three commercial airlines:

        Flag of Russia Volga-Dnepr - 12 aircraft;
    3. Kalmar
      Kalmar 30 November 2015 11: 04 New
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      Erdogan great set up NATO .... now NATO looks around the world as an aggressor.

      For already 50 years, NATO looks like an aggressor, and so what? The question is not who it looks like, but who and how can allow itself to behave. NATO now has the opportunity to calmly pursue an aggressive policy and put the device with a parting on the opinion of other countries (even its own members) on this score, as we have once again seen.

      PS: the country’s flag at the post is not mine - it’s a proxy :)
    4. gladcu2
      gladcu2 30 November 2015 21: 33 New
      0
      The same Lech

      And NATO is an aircraft carrier off the coast of Syria.

      :)
  4. Yak28
    Yak28 30 November 2015 06: 49 New
    +5
    The West can still intercept the military initiative if any of the NATO countries starts a ground operation. In the case of a ground operation in Syria, a piece of land is formed that is not controlled by the authorities and that our aircraft cannot bomb, on which NATO troops can prepare the opposition, but essentially bandits for overthrow of Assad. As a result, this piece of land can even be torn off Syria, like Kosovo in Serbia. So a stab in the back is just the beginning of a dirty NATO game
  5. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2015 06: 51 New
    +6
    The attack on the Russian bomber was an attempt by the West to seize the military initiative in resolving the Syrian conflict.
    I doubt about "seizing the initiative." The West does not need any solution to the conflict in Syria, it is simply needed. and a vile attack, it's just revenge and an attempt to intimidate. I remembered this:
    1. Kalmar
      Kalmar 30 November 2015 09: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      and a vile attack is just revenge and an attempt to intimidate

      Rather, the attempt, as they say, "put in place": Russia was publicly slapped in the face and now they are waiting for a response with a sarcastic grin. Unfortunately, there was no adequate response, so new similar provocations can be expected in the future.
      1. kos2910
        kos2910 30 November 2015 11: 16 New
        +1
        Unfortunately, there was no adequate response, so new similar provocations can be expected in the future
        I don’t quite understand what kind of reaction would you call adequate? Nobody needs a real military conflict. Placement of the S-400 is quite an adequate response. Whether there is enough determination to bring down the Turkish violator of the Syrian border is a question with many unknowns. It was also possible to break diplomatic relations, but too many ties would have to be cut.
        1. Kalmar
          Kalmar 30 November 2015 11: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: kos2910
          I don’t quite understand what kind of reaction would you call adequate? Nobody needs a real military conflict. Placement of the S-400 is quite an adequate response. Whether there is enough determination to bring down the Turkish violator of the Syrian border is a question with many unknowns.

          Placement of the S-400 is not an answer at all. The air defense at the military base was supposed to be from the beginning, so this is more likely a plugging of holes. Well, about the determination, you correctly noted: what to the Turks before these S-400s, if they do not feel in our military readiness to launch these systems?

          The Turks made it clear that they can actually use force, and not just threaten its use. Adequate answer should show that we are not shy to give by cabbage soup. Otherwise, they will only continue to become impudent.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 November 2015 06: 59 New
    +1
    This is yet another attempt to seize the military initiative in the Middle East.

    The United States is actively taking such action after the start of our operation in Syria. Moreover, these actions include a wide range of measures, from an aggressive information attack on Russian actions to the preparation and implementation (as usual with the wrong hands) of direct armed provocations. Probably in this situation it would be appropriate to recall the Russian proverb - "To live with wolves, howl like a wolf." Those. Americans the same end and in the same place.
    1. Al_oriso
      Al_oriso 30 November 2015 08: 30 New
      +1
      Americans are able to accurately and accurately calculate everything. Moreover, they know how to stay away.
      It's hard to win a chess game against them.
      Need trick and custom action.
      This is not enough in Russia, but it is clear that there is a savvy.
  7. sa-zz
    sa-zz 30 November 2015 07: 10 New
    +1
    The hysteria is pro-American; they played a cruel joke with the Turk stupid.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 30 November 2015 07: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: sa-zz
      The hysteria is pro-American; they played a cruel joke with the Turk stupid.

      Yes, it looks like a dumb setup.
      1. dckx
        dckx 30 November 2015 07: 54 New
        +5
        The actions of Turkey in relation to our aircraft is a planned action that pursued the following objectives:
        - Military "Dividends" - aggravation with Russia in a "hot" plan. Turkey has no chance to get closer to us, so further provocations are not ruled out (It is important to note - not excluded);
        - Economic (this is by default);
        - Social, that is, the destabilization of the usual life order. Imagine what losses the average and tourist business will suffer (after all, not only tourists from Russia will no longer come). Large projects between our countries are also losses for Turkish businessmen. In a word, “Chaos” or a time bomb without the ability to turn off.

        The elementary sequence is Ukraine, followed by European sanctions against Russia, the consequence is that the European economy has staggered (the euro exchange rate! Is certainly not direct, but an indicator nonetheless). Strong Europe is no more. Then Turkey, a blow to the economy again.

        And all this at hand exclusively Saxons. In general, the actions of the leaders of Europe and Turkey speak about one thing, they are all “dolls” and their country's interests are in favor of them. That is, they were brought to power by the so-called "partners", with one exception - the process of "drive" was transparently orange.
  8. Good cat
    Good cat 30 November 2015 07: 29 New
    +1
    It is ridiculous to wait for some constructive proposals from the striped ones, they act according to the rule of divide and rule, we are always enemies and rivals for them.
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 30 November 2015 07: 31 New
    +2
    I am afraid that this is the beginning of a large-scale provocation against our VKS in Syria, and against all of Russia.
    NEVER, mericatos and Co. will not give up their claims to a global, global policeman.
    Therefore, we do not have time to relax.
    And the statements of the main communist of Russia Zyuganov that little money was allocated for defense has a very weighty argument in favor of the issue of protecting our Fatherland.
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 30 November 2015 21: 39 New
      0
      aszzz888

      Large-scale provocation, this is war. Do not bend.

      Ana defense is always money is not enough. So not only Zyuganov thinks.
  10. Darkoff
    Darkoff 30 November 2015 08: 02 New
    +2
    The attack on the Russian bomber is aimed only to somehow delay (delay) the passage of the Syrian-Turkish border under the control of the Syrian army.
  11. surrozh
    surrozh 30 November 2015 08: 16 New
    +1
    In theory, the fall of world hegemon is accompanied by many local wars or one major (world) one. The world has become unstable - the overseas hegemon has staggered.
  12. 31rus
    31rus 30 November 2015 08: 45 New
    +1
    Dear, it is not possible to seize the initiative from Russia without starting hostilities (and this war is a completely different author is not right on one initiative on a strategic scale, we are losing both to the West and the USA, tactically (Syria) not one of NATO will not go to hostile actions are open, and this is our advantage, to complete what has begun in Syria, but to impede, impose barriers and provoke, they will continue to do this, with the hands of Turks, Saudis, possibly Kurds (if we do not solve this issue)
  13. Vikings
    Vikings 30 November 2015 09: 17 New
    +1
    Not a seizure of military initiative, but a check for lice pursued the west
    knocking down our plane. Our reaction is how far we can go. Next time
    when God forbid, this will happen again. So you have to use the whole spectrum
    opportunities to suppress such provocations in the future!
  14. Vadim237
    Vadim237 30 November 2015 09: 49 New
    +1
    The West has nothing to do with the downed Su 24 - it’s all the spontaneous ambitions of the Turkish “Sultan,” he decided to show who is the main in the region and at the same time scare our air forces that it’s better not to fly in this area, for obvious reasons - but this attempt was already from the very beginning was doomed to failure, and graters after this incident with NATO and the United States confirms that the Turkish government acted alone.
  15. Belousov
    Belousov 30 November 2015 09: 58 New
    0
    They don’t need any initiative. They need a full-fledged multilateral armed conflict. The purpose of the unstable situation, the more stable the demand for the dollar. Indeed, for this, they destroyed the economically strong Europe so that capital would run not in euros, but in dollars. As long as there is demand for the dollar, the state economy is still alive. As soon as peace comes everywhere ...
  16. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 30 November 2015 10: 34 New
    0
    Of course it does! Do not be naive! At least the fact that such scenarios were discussed is beyond doubt. All agreed. Wide strokes, that's for sure. Details, perhaps not, although I do not believe in it.
    The main thing is that now ours do not make mistakes!
    And then it's all down the drain ...
  17. Oprichnik
    Oprichnik 30 November 2015 11: 14 New
    0
    Turkey is allowed to flow, as unnecessary. I think she is being pushed to our first strike when she launches a ground operation in Latakia. Cutting off Turkey from the EU, they, that is, the USA, cut off hydrocarbon supplies from Iran and Russia. And the Europeans are beginning to "suck" them in Qatar with the permission of the Americans.
  18. Xarza17
    Xarza17 30 November 2015 12: 11 New
    0
    Why, when appealed to give the Turks an adequate answer, they immediately start talking about the beginning of the third world war, what do you want the third world war? I do not want a third world war, but for some reason the Turks are not afraid of the Third World Nichrome. They have already calculated us, according to the Montreux Convention, they can close the straits in the event of a declaration of war or a military threat, and if we respond adequately to the attack, the Turks will immediately declare a military threat and close the straits. And the entire Syrian campaign will be covered with a copper basin. I think this is what they are achieving.
  19. 31rus
    31rus 30 November 2015 12: 37 New
    0
    Dear, there’s no serious answer! It’s even more interesting that Turkey has found “new” partners in the EU, in each clause of the ban and restrictions, there are serious gaps, a question for whom? Again, this is the whole layout for our business, once again about the main thing when business rules the national interests, it’s better not to talk about these interests, such a policy of the Kremlin today, alas, it’s true
  20. Petrik66
    Petrik66 30 November 2015 13: 51 New
    0
    If the main task of the provocation was to intimidate the Russian Federation, then nothing happened - they both bombed and bombed. Critics and nostradamuses - so what do you really offer? Turkish planes do not fly, how to bring them down then? Americans demanded to block the border - what's wrong? Turks will throw tanks on with 400? Well, more insanity is difficult to imagine. 20 old m 60 do not weather in such a conflict. War in mountains, forests and cities cannot bring quick victories. everything is developing gradually and the tangible results of the destruction of the militant infrastructure are not immediately apparent, but gradually. Ammunition, fuel, and money are gradually running out. without money, all these “fanatics” will quickly scatter to places where they are not destroyed by bombs: Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Jordan, Egypt and finally Turkey. And the Turks will be especially pleased with the appearance of tens of thousands of embittered and lowered bearded uncles on their territory. Bringing them to a common denominator will be very expensive and difficult. Critics - before you get into a bottle, you need to think how to get out of it! And the comments of fans of cadet Bigler have one place - in the toilet, as the brave soldier Schweik said.
    1. 31rus
      31rus 30 November 2015 15: 19 New
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      Your main mistake is that in Turkey there are already about 2,5 million refugees from whom you can recruit and train militants and there will be no end to the war, we and the Syrians must close the border, close both from the air and from the sea and the most important thing on earth , we don’t want to further identify and bomb the militant bases on the territory of Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, it means we’ll get what we started from, if there is a clear threat, I emphasize the threat to our military, issue a warning about the use of nuclear weapons, then according to the situation
    2. 31rus
      31rus 30 November 2015 15: 19 New
      0
      Your main mistake is that in Turkey there are already about 2,5 million refugees from whom you can recruit and train militants and there will be no end to the war, we and the Syrians must close the border, close both from the air and from the sea and the most important thing on earth , we don’t want to further identify and bomb the militant bases on the territory of Turkey, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, it means we’ll get what we started from, if there is a clear threat, I emphasize the threat to our military, issue a warning about the use of nuclear weapons, then according to the situation
  21. Free wind
    Free wind 30 November 2015 16: 03 New
    0
    you need to fly in pairs, all the pilots of the Second World War wrote about this, you need the cover of attack aircraft. Where is all this? Why didn’t our plane know and see?