VSU fired at Donetsk and the settlement near Gorlovka

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On Sunday night, the Kiev security forces shelled the Kuybyshevsky district of Donetsk and the village of Zaitsevo north of Gorlovka, reports RIA News the message is given.



“At 23.30, Ukrainian security forces opened fire on the village of Oktyabrsky (Kuibyshevsky district of Donetsk), a direct hit burned down a residential building on Czechoslovak Street, 103, and also killed a gas pipeline on the streets of Shakhtrokoprokhodchik and Kurchatov,” a representative of the Ministry of Defense of the DPR told the agency.

Zaitsevo village was also shelled.

In the morning at the headquarters of the ATO said that c Saturday evening, "recorded cases of ceasefire violations" by the militia of Donbass.

“From 18 hours of yesterday to 6 in the morning, the terrorists continued to conduct both provocative and targeted fire on the positions of our troops,” the ATO press center said in a release.

According to the Ukrainian Armed Forces, “shelling was carried out from mortars, grenade launchers, large-caliber machine guns and small weapons».
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  1. +23
    29 November 2015 13: 28
    what are the diving men doing?
    Kaklyatsky draft:
    As in ATO a mother
    Saw off
    Here and all my relatives
    Ran in
    And me as she could
    Humiliated

    They said supposedly you were Stepan
    It’s better if you were going to take a walk to the pan
    From anti-terrorist operation will not come back
    Get lost like you are free

    Here and all my relatives
    Ran in
    And laughed at me
    Even laughed
    And little things to one
    All wrung out
    1. +7
      29 November 2015 13: 29
      They were ordered to aggravate!
      1. +19
        29 November 2015 13: 52
        I look forward to when the European Union, represented by the leaders of individual countries, will persuasively ask Russia to resolve the "Ukrainian question" and put things in order on the territory of its national interests. And this "right to punish" Russia delegates to Novorossiya. I am sure that new management personnel are already being trained.
        Ukropsevdovlasti and their punitive apparatus already live on credit, they put truancy in hell.

        Everyone understands that only the section of Former Ukraine (!) Is the key to solving the problem, but when, where and by whom will it be announced?
        Delaying a solution to the problem is fraught with bad consequences.
        1. +5
          29 November 2015 14: 28
          The EU is unlikely to ask Russia for anything. Only if they themselves are attacked. For example, the terrorists.
          1. +3
            29 November 2015 15: 07
            Al_oriso: "... Only if they themselves are attacked. For example, terrorists."

            Ukrainian terrorists? Economic Ukrainian terrorists? Economic Ukrainian government terrorists?laughing

            Soon they will ask Russia, albeit in a veiled form. When we don’t give a damn about their opinion, and they, in order to save face and a good face (and the remnants of the confidence of the population of their countries).
            It would be nice to bring the leaders of the "popular" and "national fronts" to power, as during the Second World War under the fascist regimes in Europe, and then it was much more difficult.

            We did not start the war, but we will end it again. Traditionally and already exclusively on our terms.
            1. +3
              29 November 2015 16: 37
              Quote: SibSlavRus


              We did not start the war, but we will end it again. Traditionally and already exclusively on our terms.



              This is repeated from century to century, such is our mission.
              1. +2
                29 November 2015 17: 48
                Quote: cniza
                This is repeated from century to century, such is our mission.

                Learn - learn: fists hurt, but these dodges do not understand ...
                1. +2
                  29 November 2015 20: 31
                  Quote: papik09
                  Quote: cniza
                  This is repeated from century to century, such is our mission.

                  Learn - learn: fists hurt, but these dodges do not understand ...



                  It seems like a hopelessness.
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            3. +14
              29 November 2015 16: 41
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              Soon they will ask Russia


              Of course they will ask. And we will help.
              They asked not to interfere with the bombing of Yugoslavia and Iraq - they did not interfere.
              They asked Putin to cancel the decision of the parliament on the introduction of troops to protect citizens in the adjacent territory - canceled.
              We were asked not to raise serious problems after the drowned Kursk, downed SU-24 - we will not raise it. We don't let tourists in, we don't take tangerines.
              They asked us to make the Central Bank a branch of the Fed.
              They asked to perpetuate the memory of Yeltsin with the opening of a pompous center, to award Gorbachev the highest order of Russia - they immortalized, awarded.
              Well, not without their help.
              They helped us to organize education, health care, housing and communal services, reform in the Army, prostitution, drug addiction.
              A feeling of complete understanding.
              1. +5
                29 November 2015 16: 51
                You forgot to mention privatization and many more kosher stuff! But it’s awkward with Georgia. Yes?
                1. +1
                  29 November 2015 17: 30
                  Quote: Strezhevchanin
                  You forgot to mention privatization and many more kosher stuff! But it’s awkward with Georgia. Yes?

                  Yes, but in Turkey they are corrected, you’ll look at the head.
                  1. 0
                    29 November 2015 18: 05
                    Quote: Frigate
                    you look at the head pat

                    Perhaps stroked, but most likely against the wool!
                  2. 0
                    30 November 2015 02: 14
                    Your proposal? Destroy Ankara? Well, well, the standard in hand!
        2. 0
          29 November 2015 15: 33
          Quote: SibSlavRus
          Everyone understands that only the section of Former Ukraine (!) Is the key to solving the problem, but when, where and by whom will it be announced?
          Delaying a solution to the problem is fraught with bad consequences.


          And what to share, the land that was presented on certain conditions? Do not share it, specialists need to work, and not fuck ... mi click.
        3. 0
          29 November 2015 15: 37
          Quote: SibSlavRus
          Delaying a solution to the problem is fraught with bad consequences.


          Colleague, I think that haste in this matter is fraught with no less bad consequences. In this situation, it is really better to wait. Let the fruit "ripen" and begin to "rot", foul the atmosphere of Europe. By the way, judging by the news sometimes encountered, there are already prerequisites for such a scenario.
          Something like that, Alexander. hi
        4. +3
          29 November 2015 16: 23
          SibSlavRus (10) SU Today, 13: 52 ↑
          I look forward to when the European Union, represented by the leaders of individual countries, will persuasively ask Russia to resolve the "Ukrainian question" and put things in order on the territory of its national interests. And this "right to punish" Russia delegates to Novorossiya. I am sure that new management personnel are already being trained.
          ...................................................
          Dear namesake! hi
          There are two anecdotes on this topic that the VO Administration did not include in the article "You are my thieving dill". In principle, I didn't miss it correctly. But in the comments, be careful, you can:

          - Vladimir Volfovich! What should be done for Ukraine?
          - Shoot the Supreme Council!
          - And this will help?
          - Then shoot those who come to the funeral. Definitely! laughing

          Amazing next door.
          Did you know that in the fence of Ukraine’s Supreme Council 450 sharp, vertical rods? Is this a coincidence, or a subtle engineering calculation? wassat

          - There is Moscow and Mosenergo. Perm and Permenergo. And what about Kherson?
          - And with Kherson ..., how can I tell you, there is tension there and with energy. fellow
          1. +1
            29 November 2015 20: 33
            Quote: My address
            There is Moscow and Mosenergo. Perm and Permenergo. What about Kherson?
            - And with Kherson ..., how can I tell you, there is tension there and with energy.

            Alexander’s colleague, and I liked about Kherson, I don’t know why the administration did not miss, is quite adequate and geographically true. Yes
            Although I liked the fence too, as far as I understood the point in an equal number of rods and deputies. good hi
        5. +1
          29 November 2015 18: 56
          And the puppeteers are trying to achieve a "Bosnian" scenario, when blood will be knee-deep. If we ourselves do not delegate this right to "restore order", no one will ever delegate it to us.

          The time of contracts is over - Turkey is a good example.
      2. +2
        29 November 2015 14: 15
        Quote: Kibalchish
        They were ordered to aggravate!

        Of course they gave 100%, because at the moment,
        "country 404" is a real thorn in Russia's relations with the West! Especially after our successes in the fight against daesh!
        1. 0
          29 November 2015 15: 33
          Quote: dr.Bo
          country 404

          brother of the mayor of Kiev "beat" crying crying
          FSBshniki ??? bully
          1. 0
            29 November 2015 20: 31
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      3. +2
        29 November 2015 14: 57
        Not the fact that the order was. Natsik scumbags enough. They can naughty even without orders. Ducks, they are docks ...
        Judge for yourself. There is no money, no work, no gas, no coal, virtually no pensions, NO FUTURE ..... Yes, there are a lot of things in Ukropia, so they are fooled by hopelessness ...
        1. 0
          29 November 2015 18: 55
          Quote: dr. sem
          Judge for yourself. There is no money, no work, no gas, no coal, virtually no pensions,

          They open the fridge. Why not there .... fat is not there, there is no sausage, no cheese. belay
      4. 0
        29 November 2015 15: 17
        And $ 300 million needs to be worked out!
      5. Tor5
        0
        29 November 2015 21: 34
        It was, is, will be ... until the junta is crushed.
    2. +10
      29 November 2015 13: 33
      Forgot everything about them, ghouls. So they are trying to regain their former "glory". They put the Ukraine + EU project in an old garbage container. After all, now Europe does not even mention "democratic" Ukraine at all.
      1. +3
        29 November 2015 15: 41
        Quote: Moment
        Forgot everything about them, ghouls. So they are trying to regain their former "glory". They put the Ukraine + EU project in an old garbage container. After all, now Europe does not even mention "democratic" Ukraine at all.

        That's it. Svidomit so sorry, sho about the country that protects the whole world, but what is there, the world, the whole galaxy from the invasion of the ugromongols, forgot!
        1. 0
          29 November 2015 16: 57
          Vladimir, don’t stick these pictures anymore on our resource, associations are very bad right away .... we’ve seen enough of them yet.
    3. +29
      29 November 2015 13: 33
      Quote: izya top
      what are the diving men doing?

      To get the teeth, yes people to grab, yes to fill their pockets even more. They have already shaken all the bogs.
      1. +3
        29 November 2015 13: 45
        Class!
        Shot from the movie Taras Bulba!
      2. +5
        29 November 2015 13: 52
        Quote: vovanpain
        Zadolbali already all

        Not the topic, but I'm under the table, about people with intelligence
        1. +4
          29 November 2015 14: 07
          Well, regarding persons, to whom, and Syoma, it would be better to remain silent ... laughing
    4. +3
      29 November 2015 14: 01
      There are suspicions that Gunpowder is being presented to Europe ... After all, he began to publicize his commitment to the Minsk agreements and the ceasefire regime on every corner! There is a response of competitors - on one flank they are tearing pillars to the Crimea, on the other they open fire in the Donbass! That is, there is a redistribution of zones of influence of the oligarchs: Kolomoisky, Firtish, Akhmetov ..., other ghouls! Plus, you need to look at Russian capitalists who have their own interests in Ukraine, where they upload loot and of course we don’t forget all the golden boys of Biden and other overseas figures! If we recall the teachings of grandfather Vladimir Ilyich, but approximate it a little to the situation in Ukraine, then everything develops according to Leninist theory! In Ukraine "The main contradiction of capitalism is acquiring catastrophic depth - the contradiction between the social character of production and the capitalist form of appropriation." Such exacerbations and deepening contradictions (internal and between individual oligarchs) inevitably lead to wars, provocations, terrorist acts, etc.! They tear Ukraine among themselves - and to hell with it! But our indecision and constant all-forgiveness to Ukraine is most likely connected, as General Ivashov correctly noted, with the interests of large capitalists ...
    5. +1
      29 November 2015 14: 19
      Again ushlepki took up their ... am
    6. +5
      29 November 2015 15: 23
      By the way, a 5-minute walk from me. The lowest mark.

      Video after the shelling.
      1. +2
        29 November 2015 15: 41
        The summary will be late at night, as I think today there will be strong shelling.
      2. 0
        29 November 2015 16: 31
        Video after the shelling.

        The video is very streamlined filmed, not one concrete indication of the culprit’s side: someone is bombing with hail, houses are on fire, there is no ceasefire ..., the Western media will again adjust the plot to the desired vector ...
        1. +3
          29 November 2015 18: 33
          Quote: uralex
          The video is very streamlined filmed, not one concrete indication of the culprit’s side: someone is bombing with hail, houses are on fire, there is no ceasefire ..., the Western media will again adjust the plot to the desired vector ...

          There is such a concept - "minimum firing range", for MLRS "Grad" it is 4000 meters. People in the video say: - "It flew from the side of the village of Peski." Between the village of Peski (occupied by the APU) and the Volvo Center (occupied by the VSN) there is no man's land, about 300-500 meters. According to the map of the settlement of Peski (occupied by the APU), they start after 3 km and stretch for about another 1,5 km, total = 4,5 km. That is, even if the militia wanted to frame the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they would have to agree with the Armed Forces of Ukraine to drive through the field, then N. Sands and stand behind them in position, then shoot, roll up and return to Donetsk.
  2. +2
    29 November 2015 13: 28
    Dill is taken. They really want once again to get their teeth. Are the curators of money and shells thrown? Dill must blaze, so that together with Syria two fronts work out.
    1. +3
      29 November 2015 13: 44
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Dill should blaze

      That will be so! The junta simply have no other options. The economy is in the anus, the promises about the EU have not been fulfilled (and will not be fulfilled, even the Maydan people understand that I don’t want to!), The standard of living is falling, prices are rising, the tale that Putin is to blame for everything is no longer relevant. Conclusion - to maintain power, the junta needs war.
    2. +5
      29 November 2015 13: 45
      Probably they understood Turkey's crime against the Russian plane as an example of permissiveness. And the cry about the unfortunate Ukraine, which was captured by the Russians, calmed down a little. So they decided to remind that "... they have not died yet ...".
    3. +1
      29 November 2015 13: 57
      The main idea of ​​the Turkish curators. It was about the closure of the Black Sea straits. Russia can not stand the booby in Ankara .. the Turks will block the straits. Fleet in the Mediterranean Sea .. The main base in Sevastopol. The Bosphorus and the Orthodox cross over Constantinople are the eternal goal of the Russian Empire - Russia! As I understand it, the Americans are fussing, as always dirty, bloody and extremely cynical.
      1. +2
        29 November 2015 14: 25
        I do not think that it was the Americans who arranged the downing of our bomber. In Turkey, Erdogan is still a goose!
        but the tacit American consent to the provocation was clearly not without. They love such combinations, when everything is by someone else's hands, and everything "accidentally" develops in their favor request
    4. +2
      29 November 2015 14: 09
      It was they who avenged the refusal of coal. Well, how could ... request
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  4. +5
    29 November 2015 13: 31
    The end of Minsk (however, there was no beginning, by and large). Well, where is the "big-eyed" OSCE?
    1. 0
      29 November 2015 13: 40
      Quote: Funnels
      So where is the "big-eyed" OSCE?

      Read their November 25 countdown
      This report is provided to the media and the general public. The official version of the report is the original text in English.

      A special monitoring mission monitored the implementation of the “Package of Measures to Implement the Minsk Agreements,” including the Supplement. The SMM's monitoring work was limited by the parties and for security reasons *. The SMM recorded a significant increase in ceasefire violations in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, including the Donetsk airport. According to the SMM, in some cases, explosions and artillery fire were associated with exercises or demining works. The SMM saw long lines of civilian vehicles at government-controlled roadblocks at the contact line and at checkpoints across the state border between Ukraine and the Russian Federation.

      While at the Donetsk People's Republic (“DPR”) -controlled train station in Donetsk (6km northwest of Donetsk), the SMM heard a total of 207 explosions (most of them of unknown origin) and numerous bursts of small arms and heavy machine guns , mainly 3-5km to the west-south-west, west-north-west and north-west of its location [1]. In addition to the airport, in the Donetsk region, in 12 more places along the contact line, the SMM heard a total of 373 explosions and numerous lines of small arms and a heavy machine gun. For example, in the government-controlled Novgorodskoye town (35km north of Donetsk), the SMM recorded 134 explosions (approximately 60% of incoming and 40% of outgoing explosions). According to SMM observers, most of the explosions were related to firing from mortars (120mm); the location of these weapons in such proximity to the line of contact is prohibited. Also, while in the government-controlled town of Keramik (28km north of Donetsk), the SMM heard 13 explosions, which, according to observers, were related to firing mortars (120mm and 82mm) 15-17km south-west of their location.

      In government-controlled s. Krasnogorovka (21km west of Donetsk), the SMM heard 77 explosions of uncertain origin and 19 bursts and 33 small arms shots. While in the government-controlled city of Nikolaevka (63km north of Mariupol), the SMM recorded more than ten explosions of uncertain origin and several bursts of heavy machine guns to the southeast of their location. Local residents told the SMM that they had heard explosions and gunfire since the morning; they were worried and scared by this situation.

      In the “DPR” -controlled village of Staromikhailovka (16km west of Donetsk), the SMM visited two places where observers saw two houses that were hit by 30-mm cannon shells. According to local residents, the shelling occurred at night on November 23. The SMM recorded minor damage to the metal fence in the courtyard of the first house and a hole in the roof of the second house. The SMM estimates that in both cases the fire was fired from the north-west and north-north-west directions. While on the eastern outskirts of the city, the SMM heard 19 explosions of undetermined origin 6-8 km west-north-west of where it was located.
      1. 0
        29 November 2015 21: 45
        There, green hedgehogs, some blondes, why are they sitting?
        Locals heard something said.
        Yes, our Grannies at the entrance are more informed than this OSCE fool angry hi
    2. +2
      29 November 2015 13: 42
      In the Luhansk region, the SMM heard a total of 67 explosions of uncertain origin and numerous lines of small arms and heavy machine guns in nine separate locations — mainly in areas northwest of the controlled Luhansk People's Republic (“LPR”) city of Lugansk, including in the government-controlled towns of Nizhny, Novoaydar and s. Trekhizbenka, as well as in the controlled by the "LPR" town Slavyanoserbsk and with. Bold (56km, 49km, 31km, 32km and 28km northwest of Lugansk, respectively). While in the village of Nizhnyaya, the SMM heard 22 explosions 10-15km south-west of its location.

      According to the SMM, in some cases, explosions and artillery fire in Donetsk and Lugansk regions were associated with exercises or demining works. For example, in the government-controlled city of Avdeevka (17km north of Donetsk), the SMM heard a large number of bombings, mainly from the direction of the government-controlled village of. Thin (19km north-west of Donetsk). The SMM estimates that some of the explosions were related to mine clearance operations, while others were related to live firing exercises. The commander of the Armed Forces battalion said that they conducted exercises and demining work in this territory. In the “DPR” -controlled city of Gorlovka (39km northeast of Donetsk), the SMM heard 106 explosions of uncertain origin 8-10km south of where it was located. According to SMM estimates, the explosions occurred at the well-known SMM training ground in the “DPR” -controlled village of Karlo-Marxovo (39km north-east of Donetsk). While in the “LPR” -controlled village of Gannovka (38km south-west of Lugansk), the SMM heard eight high-profile explosions, which, in its estimation, occurred at the shooting range in the “LPR” -controlled Perevalsk city (38km from Lugansk).

      The SMM continued to monitor the withdrawal and movement of heavy weapons. Neither the members of the “DPR” nor the members of the “LPR” have yet submitted inventories of the designated heavy weapons or information on the location of certain places of permanent storage of such weapons, which the SMM requested on October 16th. The AFU leadership also did not provide such information. However, the SMM once again visited places outside the respective withdrawal lines, known to the SMM as the location of the designated heavy weapons, although they did not meet the clear criteria specified in the communication of October 16.
      1. 0
        29 November 2015 13: 45
        At the designated AFU heavy weapons site, the SMM saw a total of 15 self-propelled howitzers (seven - 2C3 Akatsiya, 152mm, and eight - 2C1 Gvozdika, 122mm), 15 anti-tank guns (MT-12 Rapira, 100mm), 12 multiple launch rocket systems (BM-21 Grad, 122mm), 26 mortars (23 - 2B11, 120mm, and three - BM38, 82mm) and 21 towed howitzers (three - D-30, 122mm, and 18 - 2A65, 152mm )

        In other areas outside the relevant withdrawal lines, the SMM recorded such weapons, the presence of which is prohibited in the Supplement: 20 main battle tanks (MBT; T-64) at a training ground in the LPR-controlled s. Kruglik (31km southwest of Lugansk).

        The SMM observed the movement of other military equipment: a convoy of 14 military trucks (mainly Ural), which was moving west from the “DPR” controlled city of Zugres to Shakhtersk (32km and 50km east of Donetsk, respectively), 15 military trucks (Ural and KamAZ), which throughout the day moved both in the direction of the Donetsk airport and in the opposite direction, including one Ural truck with an anti-aircraft gun mounted on it (ZU-23 , 23mm) that was moving towards the airport.

        In the Donetsk region, the SMM visited several checkpoints on the Ukrainian-Russian border. In the controlled "DNR" with. Ouspenka (73km south-east of Donetsk), the SMM observers saw 192 civilian vehicles and 30 civilian trucks that were waiting to enter the territory of the Russian Federation. The SMM took turns talking to two drivers who said they had been waiting for the border crossing for 19-20 hours. In the controlled "DNR" with. Marinovka (77km east-southeast of Donetsk), the SMM observed 25 civilian vehicles and 15 civilian trucks waiting to cross the border with the Russian Federation. At a checkpoint near the controlled "LPR" with. Dyakovo (70km south of Lugansk), two armed members of the “LPR” did not let SMM observers to the Dyakovo border zone *.

        The SMM monitored the humanitarian situation on both sides of the line of contact. In government-controlled s. Makarovo (20km north-east of Lugansk), a local 60-year-old resident told the SMM that a school was working in the village, but due to the presence of the military on the way to school in the village. Makarovo her granddaughter goes to a school located in the government-controlled village of Stanitsa Luganskaya (16km north-east of Lugansk). In the “DPR” -controlled village of Starobeshevo (32km southeast of Donetsk), the “chairman” of the “district administration” informed the SMM that the population had increased from 44 (at the height of the conflict in 000) to 2015, including 55 “ registered ”internally displaced persons. Before the start of the conflict, the population was 000.

        Near the “LPR” -controlled village of Novosvetlovka (16km southeast of Lugansk), the SMM noticed a convoy of four non-military trucks with license plates of the Russian Federation escorted by “LPR” police vehicles. The column was moving south.
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    3. 0
      29 November 2015 13: 45
      The SMM recorded obstacles to the movement of civilians on both sides of the line of contact. At a checkpoint in the government-controlled city of Maryinka (23km south-east of Donetsk), the SMM observed a queue of 575 civilian vehicles, eight minibuses and 100 civilians who were waiting for passage or passage to the territory controlled by the government. The SMM observers saw a line of 30 civilian vehicles waiting in the opposite direction. The SMM recorded a similar situation at a checkpoint near a government-controlled Maksimilyanivka (25km south-west of Donetsk), where approximately 380 cars and eight minibuses were waiting to travel to government-controlled territories, and about 30 civilian cars were waiting to travel in the opposite direction.

      The SMM updated information on explosions that damaged the poles of power lines and interrupted the supply of electricity across the administrative border between Kherson and Crimea (see Daily Report November 21, 2015). The SMM visited the Valok recreation center (205km southeast of Kherson) located on the Arabat Spit. The border guards present at the scene told the SMM that the security situation remains relatively calm, without a noticeable increase in the number of military and equipment on the other side of the administrative border. In sec. Chongar (161km southeast of Kherson), the SMM noticed that the damaged supports remained in the same condition as on the previous day. One of the activists guarding the damaged supports in order to prevent repair work, the Crimean Tatar, told the SMM that no one had visited the scene of the incident during the day. SMM law enforcement officials in the Kherson region reported that on 21 November they raided the blockade activists in the village of Chaplinka (70km south-east of Kherson). One of the interlocutors denied media reports that a law enforcement officer was stabbed, adding that he himself was a participant in the incident and was slightly injured with a sharp object.

      The SMM continues to monitor developments in Odessa, Lviv, Ivano-Frankivsk, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk, Chernivtsi and Kiev.
  5. +1
    29 November 2015 13: 33
    “From 18 hours of yesterday to 6 in the morning, the terrorists continued to conduct both provocative and targeted fire on the positions of our troops,” the ATO press center said in a release.

    According to the Armed Forces of Ukraine, “the shelling was carried out from mortars, grenade launchers, heavy machine guns and small arms”

    Well, where did you get it?
    And here is the result of the Nazi shelling of the territory of the DPR:
    as a result of a direct hit, a residential building on 103 Czechoslovakskaya Street burned down, and a gas pipeline was destroyed on Shakhtoprohodchikov and Kurchatov streets ”

    Feel the difference, so to speak ...
  6. +2
    29 November 2015 13: 33
    They began to forget about Ukraine. Therefore, we need to remind ourselves, and bargain for something else.
    1. +1
      29 November 2015 13: 43
      Quote: Teberii
      They began to forget about Ukraine. Therefore, we need to remind ourselves, and bargain for something else.

      Most likely they just want to arrange another provocation after the downing of our SU-24 in order to create a new "hotbed" of tension for us, because it is quite clear that Turkey and Ukraine and Israel and the SA and Qatar and many other US satellites are subordinated to only one goal. weakening of Russia.
  7. +7
    29 November 2015 13: 40
    The spider started to move, it's time to get the dichlorvos !!! This time I would like that when the pests become active, disinsection would be carried out completely, without the next "Minsk"
    1. +1
      29 November 2015 13: 48
      And to Lviv!
      True, then the horses will have to treat their brains for another 23, but this is the second point.
      1. +2
        29 November 2015 14: 10
        Only lobotomy will save Ragul
  8. +5
    29 November 2015 13: 45
    Until the ukronazists are at least driven away from the cities, such a disgrace will continue. And the different France and Germany there do not notice and will not notice the violation of the Minsk agreements, because their signatures are worthless.
    1. +2
      29 November 2015 14: 01
      It is a pity there is no Lord of Sikh, but who else can tell me?
      Here more than once I met various photos of fighters of Donbass in berets of blue color (Airborne Forces).


      Hence the question
      1) that there are subunits of the Airborne Forces in the troops of the BCH?
      or
      2) in the BCH there are separate units consisting mainly of former paratroopers?
      or
      3) are these just individual fighters not assembled into separate units?
      1. +2
        29 November 2015 14: 36
        Quote: quilted jacket
        2) in the BCH there are separate units consisting mainly of former paratroopers?

        Likely. It takes an element of the parade uniform, actually.
        1. 0
          29 November 2015 14: 45
          Quote: GRAY
          It takes an element of the parade uniform, actually.

          Is it possible in more detail is this an element of the form of all or some separate divisions of the BCH?
          1. +2
            29 November 2015 15: 02
            Quote: quilted jacket
            Is it possible in more detail is this an element of the form of all or some separate divisions of the BCH?

            This is an element of the parade uniform of the Airborne Forces.
            In VSN, in principle, there is no charter uniform. However, as in the Ukrainian army, whoever got it, they go there.
            1. +2
              29 November 2015 15: 12
              Quote: GRAY
              This is an element of the parade uniform of the Airborne Forces. In BCH, in principle, there is no charter uniform.

              About my Airborne Forces I am in the know, I had in mind the BCH.
              But is it really so bad with uniforms now? Separate parts of the BCH look pretty decent.





              1. +1
                29 November 2015 15: 34
                Quote: quilted jacket
                But is it really that bad with uniforms? Separate parts of the BCH look pretty decent.

                I'm not saying that they go ragged, just the gear has a different origin. There is no uniformity. There and in popes, some climb, but this does not mean that they are from the cavalry.
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                  29 November 2015 15: 50
                  Quote: GRAY
                  There and in popes, some climb, but this does not mean that they are from the cavalry.

                  Understandably, in principle, I understood that there are no separate units such as our Airborne Forces in the BCH so far.
                2. +2
                  29 November 2015 16: 00
                  Quote: GRAY
                  No uniformity

                  LPR late winter beginning of this spring.
              2. 0
                29 November 2015 22: 57
                Dressed up, but do they all have armor?
      2. +3
        29 November 2015 14: 42
        I think most likely paragraph 2 ...
        1. 0
          29 November 2015 14: 47
          Quote: Observer 33
          I think most likely paragraph 2

          In principle, I also think so, but I wanted to clarify with Lord Sikh because he lives there.
          1. 0
            29 November 2015 17: 07
            Quote: quilted jacket
            I wanted to clarify with the Lord Sikh, because he lives there.

            Look above, Lord Sith appeared, laid out a map of the shelling of Donetsk.
      3. 0
        29 November 2015 21: 21
        Quote: quilted jacket
        that in the armed forces there are units of the airborne forces?
        This does not take the RF Airborne Forces. These are soldiers of the "Union of Labor" unit in "ceremonial uniform". the second option is also possible.
      4. +2
        30 November 2015 01: 56
        Well done boys! They know and understand for whom and for what they are fighting hard, and therefore they do not hide their faces under masks. And their smiles are not strained and tortured, but like normal men who have done a difficult and dangerous job, but so needed by many people. Good luck and luck! Yes blowjob bullet and splinter.
  9. 0
    29 November 2015 13: 57
    “... In 'DPR' -controlled Staromikhaylovka (16km west of Donetsk), the SMM visited two locations where the SMM saw two houses hit by shells from a 30mm cannon. According to local residents, the shelling occurred on the night of 23 November. recorded a slight damage to the metal fence in the courtyard of the first house and a hole in the roof of the second house ... " - I'm just rushing from these tolerasts !!! They will also calmly write: "We saw a small hole in the chest of one of the residents with about 200 milliliters of blood flowing out and a hole in the skull of a female, measuring 30x40 mm .."
  10. +1
    29 November 2015 14: 04
    Very sorry for ordinary people. After all, these human-like people first make you feel like living without shelling, and then they start shooting again.
    I don’t want to advise what to do, but I really want to see the flag of New Russia in Kiev, and all of Kiev’s power is hanging upside down on the square.
    And there is one more secret desire - that someone "accidentally" threw a boot or a boot on the control panel of the KR Caliber and one rocket "accidentally" hit the right place in Kiev.
  11. 0
    29 November 2015 14: 07
    It is impossible, it is impossible to keep such a number of troops idle, and as a result of this - drinking, drug addiction, shooting, stabbing, they do not live in five-star hotels, but in tents, dugouts, with bonfires and potbelly stoves.
    most "nenka" the situation is worse than ever, utility services are sky-high, the hryvnia is cheaper
    Zimbabwean currency, and the entire Ukrainian economy in w ..... That’s necessary sometimes
    to shoot where Ukrainian roulette is not getting, so to speak, whom God will send. Before the New Year, anyway, something will happen, it takes time, we will wait.
  12. 0
    29 November 2015 14: 09
    Quote: Valentine
    most "nenka" the situation is worse than ever, utility services are sky-high, the hryvnia is cheaper
    Zimbabwean currency, and the entire Ukrainian economy in .....

    You know, we have the same thing in this regard, but without war in the classical sense of the word.
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    2. +1
      29 November 2015 14: 24
      Dear onyx757, in order to compare, you must at least visit both sides
      I will simply say: You are very mistaken!
      1. 0
        29 November 2015 14: 34
        In what? hryvnia as it was before the war 1 to 3 to the ruble and remained. Prices are rising in proportion to the growth of green here and in the housing and communal services and for food and medicine. Oh yes, new new tax rates and the introduction of new ones, called contributions. If you cancel the regulatory OSAG tariff, there will be final happiness smile
        Ready to hear a reasoned refutation.
        1. +1
          29 November 2015 16: 38
          Dear Onix757! Before the war in Ukraine, 1 dollar was worth 8 hryvnias, and now it’s 25 hryvnias. Prices there are rising proportionally
          the fall of the Ukrainian economy. In Ukraine, prices for
          heating and gas for the population was raised several times, if before the war one paid 300 UAH for heating "odnushki", now you have to pay 1200 UAH for electricity and water-wastewater disposal 2 times, depending on the region. Products, literally everything, are becoming more expensive every day.
          In the DPR, the gas price for the population was even reduced by 50%, for heating the price remained pre-war, both for electricity and water. The products there are now imported, mainly from Russia, so the prices are almost the same. I recently arrived from the DPR, so that I can compare, and how much there and here. But the salaries and pensions in the DPR are much lower than in Russia. There they are calculated according to pre-war accruals, and immediately converted to rubles, one to two. For example, if I received 10000 in rubles before, now I get only 5000 .. . Well, nothing, we’ll break through and withstand. The city is being restored, water and gas pipelines are being repaired, electrical substations too. Roads are being repaired,
          damaged houses are being restored. According to the latest data from the Donetsk city administration, the city by population
          entered the pre-war level, about 300 thousand people returned. Life continues, and we must live, however.
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            29 November 2015 20: 49
            Quote: Valentine
            about the war in Ukraine, 1 dollar was worth 8 hryvnia, and now it’s 25. Prices there are rising proportionally
            the fall of the Ukrainian economy. In Ukraine, prices for
            heating and gas for the population was raised several times, if before the war one paid 300 UAH for heating "odnushki", now you have to pay 1200 UAH for electricity and water-wastewater disposal 2 times, depending on the region. Products, literally everything, are becoming more expensive every day.

            And tell me, please, how much salary (or other income) in Ukraine?
            For comparison - we have for an apartment (50 square meters) - a fee in the winter - 5-5,5 thousand rubles. With a salary of net 25 thousand - it turns out - one fifth of wages. Regards, AKC.
  13. +5
    29 November 2015 14: 13
    Interestingly what and where is the OSCE fellow yeah see negative
  14. +1
    29 November 2015 14: 20
    in kind ... why the OSCE does not see nichrome ???
  15. +1
    29 November 2015 14: 22
    ALTERNATIVES TO MINSK AGREEMENTS NO ..
    V.V. PUTIN. And co.
    Ah, ohhh, they said there.!
  16. +1
    29 November 2015 14: 22
    Here, too, these Ukrainian goats are waiting for the wrath of the Almighty! Someday he will overtake them, in the person of a Russian club.
  17. 0
    29 November 2015 14: 24
    Supercru ... pov has a new idefix - they believe that they have found new generous masters - Turks and IG, and they are trying to serve the new master))))
  18. 0
    29 November 2015 14: 26
    They, that is, the OSCE, specifically indicate what to see and what not. What is their demand? It's time to disperse this office! Sense from her, like a goat of milk! In general, it’s hard to understand who wants what in both Dill and New Russia ?!
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    29 November 2015 14: 49
    Quote: SibSlavRus
    I look forward to when the European Union, represented by the leaders of individual countries, will persuasively ask Russia to resolve the "Ukrainian question" and put things in order on the territory of its national interests. And this "right to punish" Russia delegates to Novorossiya. I am sure that new management personnel are already being trained.
    Ukropsevdovlasti and their punitive apparatus already live on credit, they put truancy in hell.

    Everyone understands that only the section of Former Ukraine (!) Is the key to solving the problem, but when, where and by whom will it be announced?
    Delaying a solution to the problem is fraught with bad consequences.


    To judge the delay / urgency of bad or favorable consequences, it is necessary to comprehensively analyze the situation, and this is not the prerogative of the "couch generals". It is not appropriate for forum participants, which I myself am, to take on such epochal decisions, and for a comprehensive analysis, confidential information is needed. Everything that we write here is only an emotional reaction to the information provided to us, the reliability of which is not 100%. Considering the above, it is better to speak carefully ...
  21. 0
    29 November 2015 14: 53
    Most likely, Russia is provoked to start hostilities, no matter where, Turkey or Ukraine, the main thing is to blaze. Until Russia officially declares that in the event of the outbreak of hostilities against Russia, a preventive thermonuclear strike on America and Britain will immediately be dealt as provocateurs war, peace we can not see
    1. 0
      29 November 2015 15: 49
      Quote: Lalaika
      Until Russia officially declares that in the event of the outbreak of hostilities against Russia, a preventive thermonuclear strike will immediately be inflicted on America and Britain, as provocateurs of war, we will not see calm

      Strategist 80 LVL. And what does a "preemptive nuclear strike" mean if "hostilities against Russia" have already begun? What is prevention?
      1. 0
        29 November 2015 15: 55
        Do you think that hostilities will begin immediately with the participation of America and Britain? No, they will supply Ukraine (Turkey, Qatar) with weapons in their typical manner and shit on us just like in WWI and WWII, which means "preemptive strike" that no matter who starts the war with Russia, its customers will suffer first
  22. +1
    29 November 2015 15: 47
    European leaders do not want to admit violation of the agreement.
    This is beneficial for them, since the Black Host ordered them to impose sanctions. I was tired of this performance with a worthless country-Ukraine!
  23. 0
    29 November 2015 16: 02
    I look at the heroes again I wanted to snot, they have one gyrus for everyone, and even that short one ...
    In vain then LDNR from Marik was "taken away" (Akhmetka already tensed ..)
    Ukrostan would not behave so brazenly, although he will correct the hunchback grave.
    And then Gorlovka and Airport-outskirts as figachat and figachat ...
    Case by February? Maybe Marik is next in line? And there you look further?
    LDNR patience and good luck to you all! Take care of yourself!
  24. +1
    29 November 2015 17: 07
    Quote: Dryuya2
    brother of the mayor of Kiev "beat" crying crying

    What a mighty brother, that Ukraine !!!!!!!!!! fellow
  25. 0
    29 November 2015 17: 38
    Sorry for the peoples on both sides. Retired already completely.
    They are probably waiting for when this scum from there will leave and when these temporary governors in Kiev will finish their dirty deed, fill their pockets, and go back to the mud.
  26. +2
    29 November 2015 18: 54
    At me here the godfather-officer came on vacation to plump from the anti-terrorist operation zone. He says that many are ready to go to the Maidan with all the shooting quirks in order to tell the scum and the rest how much ruberoid is in Odessa, but there is no ringleader and leader. grunted by a stupid war, it is not clear for whom and why.
    From the last call, his battery was covered, his name is urgently back. And we have broadcast media, 1-wounded. He says multiply immediately by 2, or even by 3. Provocations-shooting will continue, otherwise the crowd without a tower, goals, money will spontaneously go to Kiev.
  27. 0
    29 November 2015 19: 19
    VSU fired at Donetsk and the settlement near Gorlovka
    Now such news is lost against the backdrop of the war with the use of the Russian Air Force in Syria and the Su-24, shot down by the Turks.
  28. 0
    29 November 2015 20: 40
    The photo in the top left. Last year, Dr. Shevchenko, was targeted at the MGB - they were hospitalized.
  29. +1
    29 November 2015 20: 57
    Usually I read comments to the article.
    And now a strange feeling arises every time.
    What to do?
    There are friends and acquaintances in Ukraine; together they built not simple objects, cities, roads in Siberia.
    And suddenly they became enemies!
    I do not believe.
    Like us Russians, we are famously bred by those in power, as in Ukraine.
    To a simple people, deep in the drum, in what language does Moishe or Vasily or Mikol ask his wife ...
    Gramodyane Ukrainians! Finish the booze. Affairs to the throat. We are of the same blood! And we sing songs at the table general. hi
    1. 0
      29 November 2015 21: 23
      We sing common songs. But not really. Along the great Siberian highway, etc. Siberian, about the Yenisei, Taiga ... they differ sharply from the gopan of the "Transcarpathians". My grandmother played the accordion and played the 7th string, Krasnoyarsk Territory. A teacher of the Russian language and literature, she already knew that .. Even the uncle comes from there, a typical crest by blood, and he is shocked when he crosses the border and ends up in his native Carpathians. ... Pension 200 USD plus a salary of 800 in Yamal (three days as a dispatcher at a gas distribution station). Tell me now that the Russians live shitty. The appeal is addressed to the stubborn Ukrainians in the first place.
  30. 0
    29 November 2015 22: 12
    Especially for dill we make music (18+)

    1. 0
      29 November 2015 22: 20
      I caught myself on a terrible thought - And it's nice to watch !!!
  31. +1
    29 November 2015 22: 19
    I look in posts a lot about sanctions and I would be for Ukraine - well, come on - the United States was scared for its hegemony and seriously - there would be no Ukraine sanctions if we did not recognize same-sex marriages (they say we oppress the poor patients) - there will always be a reason . We are interfering with the USA (because there simply is an independent Russia) and it is strong!
  32. 0
    30 November 2015 01: 03
    When they will show us the next corpses of Khokhlopup’s troops who died from the response of Donbass, I will still have to call this worthless people brothers ??? They KILL RUSSIAN PEOPLE AND I SHOULD NAME THEM THEM BROTHERS ???
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