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President of the Russian Federation signed a decree on economic measures against Turkey

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Vladimir Putin signed a decree concerning the application of special economic measures against Turkey, reports RIA News with reference to the Kremlin press service.




“President of Russia V.V. Putin signed the Decree "On measures to ensure the national security of the Russian Federation and to protect citizens of the Russian Federation from criminal and other unlawful actions and to apply special economic measures against the Republic of Turkey," the release says.

This decree, according to a member of the Federation Council, Franz Klintsevich, means that in relations between the two countries the “point of no return” has been passed.

“After the tragic incident (with the Su-24), we left the door open for four days - for four whole days. But there was no clear explanation. Now I am afraid that the point of no return has already been passed, "
declared Klintsevich.

According to him, "the decree was a response to the so-called grief, expressed by the President of Turkey in connection with the downed Russian plane."

According to the agency, “the president ordered a ban on charter flights between countries, prohibited employers from 1 in January 2016 to hire workers from among Turkish citizens, decided to prohibit or restrict the activities of organizations under the jurisdiction of Turkey in Russia and ordered to prohibit or restrict the import of Turkish goods.
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  1. Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 29 November 2015 09: 13 New
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    It seems that Erdogash will not go to the next term, the Turks will devour him! Share near. Long live Kurdistan.
    1. avt
      avt 29 November 2015 09: 15 New
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      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      It seems that Erdogash will not go to the next term,

      Dawood oglu - Sultan # 2 and on the tongue for restraint, but for life - the same ... horseradish, in the sense of root crops, but the view from the side. So, succession will provide. But the probability that Gulen and his jamaat will jump out of the sea-sea is higher than ever, and this will be fun like the current one in Suria - as if the hot guys would start to cut themselves, even if Kurdish lawyers were shot under cameras .. .. request it’s not childish. The Turks are already carrying out MILITARY operations in the areas where the Kurds live and are suffering quite military losses.
      1. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 29 November 2015 09: 18 New
        +9
        Quote: avt
        So that the succession will provide

        It if in time! The times are vague.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 29 November 2015 09: 50 New
          +2
          Wonderful economically Russia's response to the provocative reaction of the Erdogan leadership of Turkey regarding the downed Russian aircraft in Syrian airspace!
          И this is only the beginning to eliminate Erdogan and his clan from power in Turkey.
          1. 222222
            222222 29 November 2015 11: 50 New
            0
            The decree itself on the website of the President of the Russian Federation
            http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/50805
          2. mitrich
            mitrich 29 November 2015 22: 40 New
            +2
            What are you like small children, by golly! belay
            No one will throw Erdogash, what kind of fairy tales. Sanctions against us, the whole EU and Kodla introduced, have we changed a lot politically? Why do you think that the Turks will be different?
            Well, just the same, there are no our tourists, some (mind you, some !!!) goods will be banned for import, some of their companies will be thrown out of the Russian Federation, and that's it, the Turks have a revolution ???
            Minimum is naivety.
      2. a52333
        a52333 29 November 2015 09: 19 New
        +8
        Quote: avt
        Dawood oglu - sultan№2

        Who knows, how to know ... maybe Salahittin Demirtash? Kurdish leader.

        [img]https://im0-tub-ru.yandex.net/i?id=e47ef18c680ee348e15fc08269e60fa2&n=33&h=
        190 & w = 337 [/ img]
        1. avt
          avt 29 November 2015 09: 22 New
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          Quote: a52333
          Who knows, how to know ... maybe Salahittin Demirtash? Kurdish leader.

          Exactly after the war and the renaming of Istanbul to Constantinople. laughing
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      3. Lepila
        Lepila 29 November 2015 09: 40 New
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        Отличный ответ пердогану. Как говорили в моей юности:"удар по карману больнее,чем удар по хлебалу"...
        1. Frigate
          Frigate 29 November 2015 11: 02 New
          10
          Quote: Lepila
          Отличный ответ пердогану. Как говорили в моей юности:"удар по карману больнее,чем удар по хлебалу"...

          Yeah. So hit the Palestinians afford, not a bread.
          1. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 29 November 2015 14: 27 New
            +2
            The difference between Turkey and Palestine is that Turkey has a pocket. While there. Or simply: Whoever has it, that's why they beat! laughing
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        3. guzik007
          guzik007 29 November 2015 11: 10 New
          +2
          Wow! Sands, the campaign reported to the president :-)
          Two points already ordered to do ...
          So, I look forward to the implementation of paragraphs 3. and 4. :-))






          guzik007 RU  November 26, 2015 19:18 | Prohibited substances in agricultural products from Turkey violated the airspace of Russia ...


          guzik007 RU Today, 09:00 | Turkey and Russia: the bright future
          to solve the problem of relations with the Turks is quite simple and difficult at the same time. Everything must be done so that the farther leaves with a bang.
          1. Introduce strict sanctions on trade relations (temporarily)
          2. Close tour trips (temporarily)
          3. Military assistance to the Kurds
          4. Powerful indoctrination of the population - look, it will hit your pockets while the perfume is in power!
          And wait for the results. Believe me, the Turks in the bulk of Ohddog Khan are not happy.
        4. NEXUS
          NEXUS 29 November 2015 13: 01 New
          +1
          Quote: Lepila
          Отличный ответ пердогану. Как говорили в моей юности:"удар по карману больнее,чем удар по хлебалу"...

          The party has just begun. And these are far from the last steps of retaliation. And I think, like a cake on a cherry, there will be a military response, but after all the economic, political and diplomatic steps.
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 29 November 2015 14: 07 New
            0
            Right! This is the beginning. And, Erdogan is already a corpse, political, and, this is also the beginning.
      4. aktanir
        aktanir 29 November 2015 09: 40 New
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        думать, что Эрдогана снимут из-за его проблем с Россией - лишь утешать себя наивной местью. Ничего подобного не произойдет. С таким же успехом можно было бы ожидать, что мы снимем Путина, если бы по его приказу сбили турецкий ф16. В Турции развертывается антироссийская пропаганда и поверьте в ход пойдут все средства, чтобы сплотить турецкий народ перед лицом наспех сфабрикованной "российской агрессии". Короче туркам будут втюхивать, что мы во всем виноваты, а Эрдоган, отец всех турков и Земли нашей, старается их оградить русской опасности.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 29 November 2015 14: 11 New
          0
          And what, the Turkish people decide who will be in power? Well, we agree that the owners overseas. If they will not benefit from the further finding of Erdogan, then alas, not a tenant anyway. And, I have a feeling that he spoiled the Master, oh, spoiled.
        2. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin 29 November 2015 16: 27 New
          0
          Quote: aktanir
          to think that Erdogan will be removed because of his problems with Russia - only console yourself with a naive revenge

          Recently, no one in our country has been entertaining the illusions that we will crawl out of all this shit dry !!!
          But! So far, fortunately, we are going with the least losses and God will give us and our neighbors at the right time to unite with a common problem, and not create an even bigger one next to us.
      5. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 29 November 2015 12: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: avt
        The Turks are already conducting MILITARY operations in the areas where the Kurds live and suffer quite combat losses.


        Turks do not yet know what combat losses are. But they will find out.
        1. avt
          avt 29 November 2015 13: 04 New
          +3
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          Turks do not yet know what combat losses are.

          No. Not quite so, they already entered regular units in Syria at the beginning of the conflict and received all of them from the Syrian army, not yet a bloodless civil war.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 29 November 2015 13: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          Turks do not yet know what combat losses are. But they will find out.


          The most tangible for the Turks and the Islamic State will be the complete closure of the border by Assad troops and Kurds. Then the collapse of the IG will come (the oil carriers will stand up without movement, which will be destroyed by our aviation). For one, do not let Turkish false humanitarian convoys that go so far into Syria.
          (cry.)
    2. 44 World
      44 World 29 November 2015 09: 17 New
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      All the same, a little !!! The elimination of all involved scum !!!
      1. vovanpain
        vovanpain 29 November 2015 09: 42 New
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        Quote: 44World
        All the same, a little !!! The elimination of all involved scum !!!

        They are being liquidated anyway, but no one talks about it out loud. By the way, the Syrian army completely occupied the area of ​​northern Latakia, where our bomber was shot down, thereby blocking the delivery routes to the barmales completely, ISIS no longer receives weapons and replenishment from this direction, it is also blocked corridor of delivery of free oil to pedergan. Pedergan yesterday already wanted to meet Putin in Paris, but I wonder what that would mean? Koki is on fire with Erdogan.
        1. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 29 November 2015 13: 19 New
          +1
          Quote: vovanpain
          By the way, the Syrian army completely occupied the area of ​​northern Latakia, where our bomber was shot down, thereby blocking the delivery routes to the barmales completely, ISIS no longer receives weapons and replenishment from this direction, and the corridor for delivering free oil to the Pedergan was also blocked.


          If this is true, then it is incredibly cool. And you can put a monument at the place of the fall of SUSHKI.
        2. avva2012
          avva2012 29 November 2015 14: 15 New
          +2
          Koki in Erdogan is already in his stomach, if not in his throat. He is so fussing, already causes disgust. Fu, not a good person. And, about the news that the Syrians, occupied the area of ​​northern Latakia, did not read, thanks for the news!
    3. vovanpain
      vovanpain 29 November 2015 09: 22 New
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      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      Long live Kurdistan.

      It's time.
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 29 November 2015 10: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: vovanpain
        It's time.



        Гм... многим "бабам-ягам" это будет не по нраву... Не дадут-с ... Судя по карте, это будет не Курдистан, а "Великий Курдистан"...
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 29 November 2015 14: 23 New
          +1
          It is necessary to help Kurdistan to get to the Black Sea, at the expense of Turkish territory. It will be like compensation for the centuries-old yoke. And, given that socialist ideas are very popular in Kurdistan, we need to not just be friends. Restore the USSR, and then accept into the fraternal family of peoples. Yes, hello Kurdistan SSR! Yes, there will be, the Black Sea, as the inland sea of ​​the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics! Hooray, comrades! (dream, not a joke)
      2. igor1981
        igor1981 29 November 2015 10: 25 New
        +7
        I do not agree with this card a bit. On it, the provinces - Kars and Igdir (from the city of Ararat) - are historical regions of Armenia, where the genocide of Armenians by the Turks took place, which left Turkey under the Moscow Treaty from 18 on March 1921.
        1. Aleksander
          Aleksander 29 November 2015 11: 11 New
          +4
          Quote: igor1981
          I do not agree with this card a bit. On it, the provinces - Kars and Igdir (from the city of Ararat) - are historical regions of Armenia, where the genocide of Armenians by the Turks took place, which left Turkey under the Moscow Treaty from 18 on March 1921.


          Согласен с Вами, единственно позволю добавить "геноцид армян турками и Kurds"
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      4. sa-ag
        sa-ag 29 November 2015 10: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: vovanpain
        Quote: Strezhevchanin
        Long live Kurdistan.

        It's time.

        Иран будет просто "счастлив", в результате этого передела захотят суверенитета "сколько сможете унести", самое интересное, что это вполне укладывается в задумки запада, объявленные еще в 2006 году, взято отсюда - http://www.jafarov.com/view-1810-news.html
      5. Mosen6Ish
        Mosen6Ish 29 November 2015 11: 44 New
        0
        Странно видеть такие посты от "представителей" государства переживших 1ю и 2ю чеченские и разгулы сепаратизма. Вы - пятая колонна в нашем Обществе - хорошо что рано вас выявили, потом проще будет.
      6. your1970
        your1970 29 November 2015 12: 53 New
        +4
        as a person living next to the Kurds (refugees) - I would not be happy about such a neighborhood, and even such negotiating partners: sooo specific people ....
        1. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin 29 November 2015 16: 39 New
          0
          Quote: your1970
          sooo specific people ....


          Nevertheless, a certain number of people retained such a concept as honor and duty .... and gratitude too. People have decided what they want from their country, why not?
      7. Vikxnumx
        Vikxnumx 29 November 2015 13: 47 New
        +1
        But not such a piece to the vegetable?
        Do not choke?
        Can they defend?
      8. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 29 November 2015 15: 03 New
        +1
        It's time.

        Как то вы лихо шашкой махнули.) Иран, наш "союзник", думаете согласится с вашей картой? И Армению вы как то стороной обошли, там тоже есть что закрасить.
    4. i80186
      i80186 29 November 2015 09: 24 New
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      Turkey 2016. smile
    5. Tor5
      Tor5 29 November 2015 09: 33 New
      +8
      For people like Erdogan, economic measures (especially in terms of personal enrichment of the family) are much more effective than military measures for the whole country.
      1. Altona
        Altona 29 November 2015 09: 39 New
        +7
        Quote: Tor5
        For people like Erdogan, economic measures (especially in terms of personal enrichment of the family) are much more effective than military measures for the whole country.

        ----------------------------
        A personal business of $ 1-3 billion was more important than a national business of $ 30-40 billion ...
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    7. Comrade Bender
      Comrade Bender 29 November 2015 09: 42 New
      +3
      Well, Kurdistan, as a public entity, can also deliver decent hemorrhoids.
    8. RUS96
      RUS96 29 November 2015 09: 45 New
      +6
      No, it's just a coincidence.
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 29 November 2015 12: 44 New
        +5
        Quote: RUS96
        No, it's just a coincidence.


        And ours warned that there would be natural disasters. The boy said - the boy did.
      2. Vikxnumx
        Vikxnumx 29 November 2015 13: 48 New
        +5
        ours less than 7 do not shake ...
    9. Civil
      Civil 29 November 2015 09: 45 New
      +6
      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      It seems that Erdogash will not go to the next term, the Turks will devour him! Share near. Long live Kurdistan.

      Ниче подобного, там такой же как у нас "патриотический" вой в прессе на фоне экономического кризиса, правда лира так не падала...
      1. tomket
        tomket 29 November 2015 09: 51 New
        +5
        Quote: Civil
        там такой же как у нас "патриотический" вой в прессе на фоне экономического кризиса,

        Видимо там сейчас рассказывают простым туркам о том что "санкции они ввели блин", и что санкции это обоюдоострое оружие , которое не известно по ком бьет сильнее, и что они запросто переключатся на другие рынки и прочее и прочее....
      2. Ramzaj99
        Ramzaj99 29 November 2015 10: 51 New
        +7
        Quote: Civil
        Nothing like that ......., against the backdrop of the economic crisis, though the lyre didn’t fall like that ...

        Yesterday I just watched the program, there the Turk spoke about the national currency.
        The rate hikes, devaluation and everything else are exactly the same as in Russia, the difference with Russia is by insignificant percentages. The severance of economic ties with Russia is awaited with fear ....
    10. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 29 November 2015 11: 30 New
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      The prophecy of Zhirinovsky, as if looking into the water.

      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 29 November 2015 12: 48 New
        +6
        Zhirik handsome. Could have been a good president, but had to become a jester ...
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 29 November 2015 14: 34 New
          +4
          A good Jester under the President - as an excellent adviser, but without restrictions on the expression of ideas and advice. hi
    11. avia1991
      avia1991 29 November 2015 23: 27 New
      0
      Quote: Strezhevchanin
      It seems that Erdogash will not go to the next term, the Turks will devour him!

      I linger, however ..
      Технологии обработки общественного сознания еще на всю катушку не включали, подождите - нас турки вполне могут превратить в такого же "врага нации", каким сделали Россию для ооочень многих украинцев! И будет Эрдоган "спасителем народа".. Журналистов, "посмевших" сунуться, куда не надо, арестовали? Арестовали. И это только небольшая прелюдия к возможному "закручиванию гаек". Не зря же Эрдоган так потворствует "ДАИШу" - мечтает о таком укладе жизни для всего государства!
      .. And who is there, in this case, will ask the electorate, whom does he want to choose? wassat
  2. bronik
    bronik 29 November 2015 09: 13 New
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    The economic war, it is also a war ..
    1. SSR
      SSR 29 November 2015 09: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: bronik
      The economic war, it is also a war ..

      More like a test ball and all the restrictions are like a warning shot in the air. This is a sign of erodogand ***, a sign that if he continues to climb into the bottle, then we will begin to tighten the knot.
      Отменили чартеры а не все полеты и по компаниям ограничения а не запреты. В общем нам пока омтается только ждать, иногда одно событие может длиться годами как "нэзалежность" уркаины и ее "евроинтеграция".
      As in a joke - I do not understand. I drink everything and I feel worse and worse.
  3. True
    True 29 November 2015 09: 17 New
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    If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame (c)
    1. SPACE
      SPACE 29 November 2015 09: 58 New
      +3
      Quote: True
      If a country, choosing between war and shame, chooses shame, it receives both war and shame (c)

      Of course, smart people sometimes come across in the West, and maybe even Churchill from among them, but here is what they sometimes say, as well as the fact that they are often thoughtlessly quoted, drawing parallels and hints, in any case, is not true for us or something outstanding. A typical, subjective opinion of a person with a Western mentality about his own problems, who has nothing to do with our situation, if you like, let it be an exception, which is ironically confirmed by history, because Russian soldiers do not start, they end them with a glorious Victory.
      Z.Y. This is not our choice, OURS simply do not have it ...
      1. True
        True 29 November 2015 10: 09 New
        +1
        Much in foreign policy is tied to the image of Putin as a macho man, the tough leader of a huge nuclear country. And here yesterday, a Pole on TV already said that the king is naked! We wiped ourselves off. It was a check for lice and we did not pass it. I think the pressure on Russia will only increase now.
        1. True
          True 29 November 2015 10: 59 New
          +1
          What exactly do minusers disagree with?
          1. KBR109
            KBR109 29 November 2015 11: 13 New
            +9
            Do you think goodwill Turkish aviation at airfields on the Syrian border after the deployment of air defense and providing fighter cover? laughing wassat Complete blocking of oil caravans? US demand for T. to close the border with Syria. With the intensification of the work of our aviation. Repeat the Polish nonsense ... Or do you think it would be a worthy answer to conduct a nuclear bombing of Ankara? fool
            1. True
              True 29 November 2015 11: 32 New
              +1
              What does Turkey and the Middle East have to do with it? Well, there will be another provocation in another place. The answer was to be such that no other mongrel was more ... and now no one is afraid of us. The same Turks from mortars of the Syrian army fired at http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2692257&tid=95994
              1. KBR109
                KBR109 29 November 2015 11: 47 New
                +7
                You, as I look, really need fear from others ... A difficult school childhood?
                1. avva2012
                  avva2012 29 November 2015 14: 38 New
                  0
                  Provocateur.
                2. True
                  True 30 November 2015 13: 12 New
                  +1
                  Do you not think that everyone loves Americans? They are afraid. And to provoke their fools there. Well, about childhood ... well, this phrase is yours ... Are you an adult? There are doubts.
          2. Cube123
            Cube123 29 November 2015 11: 27 New
            +5
            Quote: True
            What exactly do minusers disagree with?

            The game has not even begun. So far, the teams are just warming up. Making predictions about the results of the game at this stage is not very smart.
            1. True
              True 29 November 2015 12: 44 New
              +1
              What are the results? Where did I talk about this? There seems to be no illusion of who does this and why. Do you think the provocations will stop? One gets the impression that we are just playing for time. What is the calculation only? Maybe we are building a death star on the sly? Or do we know something? (Yellowstone / Asteroid / Aliens).
              1. Mikhail Krapivin
                Mikhail Krapivin 29 November 2015 12: 52 New
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                And what, in your opinion, did Poland have to declare war for the statement of that Pole? Or start Turkey with the land leveling? What are your suggestions? Shake us to the core with your strategic thinking and we will choose you as president. Next.
          3. Vikxnumx
            Vikxnumx 29 November 2015 13: 54 New
            +3
            do you have anyone on vacation in Turkey?
            I do not have. And someone has wives and children there ...
          4. Sergey Polt
            Sergey Polt 29 November 2015 16: 40 New
            0
            Почему минус? А зачем с цензорёнком спорить? "Сказал какой-то поляк" - по-вашему это предмет обсуждения?...
        2. Turkir
          Turkir 29 November 2015 14: 54 New
          +4
          This is because the Poles live representations of the 17th century, when they chose kings at a gathering.
          And in our concept, the main thing is Russia as a power, it is our king.
          -------
          Вы "утёрлись" потому что с ним согласились. Спросили бы этого полячишку, сколько процентов от работоспособного населения Польши на заработках в Европе?
          Их "короли" и "тузы" все голые.
          And they play with marked cards.
          1. True
            True 30 November 2015 13: 13 New
            +1
            Let's not hand out shortcuts to people. It’s a shame then it can become if I am right, not?
  4. igor1981
    igor1981 29 November 2015 09: 17 New
    +4
    Турки похоже перешли "красную черту". Пока у власти в Турции находиться Эрдоган, разговаривать с ними не о чем.
    1. Altona
      Altona 29 November 2015 09: 42 New
      +4
      Quote: igor1981
      Турки похоже перешли "красную черту".

      -----------------------------
      Сбитие военного самолета и убийство военнослужащих-это уже акт войны, а не переход какой то "красной линии"...Это первое, второе-Эрдоган солидаризовался с террористами и финансирует терроризм, способствует терроризму во всех смыслах...
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 29 November 2015 10: 30 New
        +5
        Quote: Altona
        The downing of a military aircraft and the killing of military personnel is already an act of war,

        The Russo-Japanese War of 1905, the war of the USSR with Japan in 1945, but Khalkhin Gol and Lake Hassan are just conflicts, although there are more than one people killed
    2. tomket
      tomket 29 November 2015 09: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: igor1981
      Турки похоже перешли "красную черту".

      Да как то сомнительно что сейчас есть в мире понятие "красная черта". можешь сожрать противника, тогда и красную черту можно и придумать, не можешь, будешь как Обама постоянно ее критерии расширять.
  5. MAXUZZZ
    MAXUZZZ 29 November 2015 09: 18 New
    +3
    Bets have been made, gentlemen, there are no more bets. Now we will see what the leader of the Republic of Turkey will say.
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 29 November 2015 09: 23 New
      +7
      Quote: MAXUZZZ
      Now we will see what the leader of the Republic of Turkey will say.

      He will say that he called, but Putin did not pick up the phone. 5 minutes called! not! 10 minutes! So Putin is to blame for everything.
      1. Koshak
        Koshak 29 November 2015 09: 49 New
        +4
        Quote: Egoza
        He will say that he called, but Putin did not pick up the phone. 5 minutes called! not! 10 minutes! So Putin is to blame for everything.

        Or maybe Putin’s battery in the phone has run out.
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        2. BLOND
          BLOND 29 November 2015 10: 28 New
          +3
          ... I just lost Putin’s number, but they didn’t give him to the help desk ...
  6. Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 29 November 2015 09: 18 New
    +1
    Let's hope that Erdogan is uplifted by local producers. it is necessary to expel the ambassador
  7. Bayonet
    Bayonet 29 November 2015 09: 19 New
    13
    An earthquake of magnitude 4,9 occurred in central Turkey. It is reported by RIA Novosti with reference to the US Geological Survey. Tremors were recorded on the night of November 29, northwest of the city of Hekimkhan, located in the province of Malatya.
    Putin hit his fist? smile
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 29 November 2015 09: 22 New
      +4
      Quote: Bayonet
      Putin hit his fist?

      Rather, someone farted)))
    2. avt
      avt 29 November 2015 09: 24 New
      +8
      Quote: Bayonet
      Putin hit his fist?

      It means - Putin ONLY in the Kremlin hit the table with his fist? laughingAnd if he broke a chair - in Turkey, the Erdogan family would crap? laughing
    3. U-96
      U-96 29 November 2015 09: 43 New
      +8
      Quote: Bayonet
      Putin hit his fist?

      hello camera No, well, here it’s clear - ours are testing climatic weapons ... Zyr: the Khoksly turned off the water in the Crimea - it rained, filled the reservoirs. Rubanuli electro - heat came to Crimea. Turks shot down a bomber - got an earthquake ....
      And by the way, where are lovers to quote a blind old woman ??? What is it about the Turks?
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      2. Baloo
        Baloo 29 November 2015 10: 12 New
        +4
        If U-96 is about Wang, then there were a dime a dozen of such old women in Russia in the 90s throughout Russia.
        Вангу открыла миру дочь Живкова, которую привозили к ней подлечить последствия ДТП. Есть истероидный тип людей, которые не столько больны, сколько "страдают" от того, что считают себя больными. С дочкой как раз такая проблема.
        After death, brother Vanga decided to make repairs, all the walls were studded with microphones and wires. In the blind, hearing and sense of smell are aggravated, in the deaf, vision and sense of smell. Vanga never sat alone at the reception. Visitors so far got along with someone on the way talking, sharing something. So that some information could be prompted by those sitting next to her or through a narrowly directed speaker. Definitely Vangu was supervised by the Bulgarian special services and used for their own purposes for manipulations. Everything else is fairy tales and myths. Illiterate, crazy, flawed old woman predicts the future?
        There is a scientific forecast, there is psychotechnics and manipulation (Messing), everything else is myths.
      3. avt
        avt 29 November 2015 10: 22 New
        +5
        Quote: U-96
        And by the way, where are lovers to quote a blind old woman ??? What is it about the Turks?

        Well now they like to quote the Greek from Athos more, that the Russians will return Constantinople to the Greeks wassat like Russia is not needed wassat . Но если серьезно - идет война за Европу как за рынок , так сильно желание USA задавить старушку в части экономики и финансов как потенциальные, еще основоположником описанные Соединенные Штаты Европы. Что собственно укладывается в глобальное доминирование USA.А тут для них все средства хороши . Только представьте как можно нагнуть ЕС если замутить в Турции очередную уже тюркскую весну ! Это ж Клондайк , Эльдорадо для ФРС! Миллионы турецких беженцев в Европу , где итак уже куча турок живет , да это по главней было бы если бы даже рванули экс советские среднеазиатские республики !И России головная боль изрядная , опять же ПРОЩЕ- Левант то уже кровью умывается да и Арабия тлеет до Индийского океана.Вот так очередной раз свои биржевые пузыри и сдуют без потрясений в USA,опять же озолотятся на ,,гуманитарных"поставках оружия .Тут им для полноты счастья еще бы Китай подтащить .....но боязно - там покамест горбачевых не наблюдается - китайцы за ,,бусы стеклянные"-,, общечеловеческие ценности" свою страну продавать отчего то не хотят....такие вот дикари .... laughing
        1. U-96
          U-96 29 November 2015 11: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: avt
          Just imagine how you can bend the EU if you stir up another Turkic spring in Turkey! This is Klondike, Eldorado for the Fed!

          любопытный сценарий) Самое главное - не такой уж фантастичный) Амбиции Эрди, мягко говоря, идут несколько вразрез с планами Штатов, но вполне могут пригодиться в качестве инструмента для использования "втёмную" против Европы) Что, собственно, уже и происходит. Эрди слишком самостоятельным стал. С точки зрения гегемона - это недопустимо) А с тем возрастающим влиянием, которое турки имеют во властных структурах Германии (года два назад DW вышла со статьёй "иммигранты приходят в бундестаг") - картина для европы вообще грустная.
          1. avt
            avt 29 November 2015 11: 26 New
            +3
            Quote: U-96
            Erdi became too independent. From the point of view of the hegemon - this is unacceptable)

            Естественно ! Что бы кто ни говорил про согласование сбить наш Су , а согласовывали точно с USA и науськивали - Фу -15 в версии перехватчика не для ДАЕШ пригнали же, но возрождение Порты№2 USам не нужно в регионе - медицинский факт , а Эрдоган и Ко этим неоосманизмом глючит наяву .Ну нахрена им новый центр силы - Игрок , который по факту УЖЕ одной ногой в Европе в виде огромной турецкой диаспоры в той же Германии ?Ясно же что турки по любому пойдут в исламизированную Европу в качестве ,,ситивого менеджера" - управлять всем этим собором,, Парижской Богоматери"и Кельнской мечетью, да еще по пути Болгарию оприходуют с Македонией и Монтонегрией - заселят своим населением.Могут возразить - бред . Ну так тогда вопрос - а где , с какой стороны забора УЖЕ СЕЙЧАС тормознули сотни тысяч ,,беженцев",которых турки услужливо подвозили к морю на армейских грузовиках и которых не хотят пускать на Север , говоря о том что - живите там где зарегистрировались? Правильно - в Греции и на Балканах вцелом.
            Quote: U-96
            The most important thing is not so fantastic)

            Особенно с работой с курдами , причем с РПК в Сурии , да еще и публично озвученной ! Ну вот кто за язык usов тянул и фотки выкладывал о том что 50 спецов УЖЕ у курдов ? Теперь прикиньте восторги Керии и его благословение , ну прям как Саддама в Кувейт, на создание ,,буферной зоны", а практически оккупации части Сирии ! Ну а последующая за акцией уничтожения нашего Су предложение о закрытии границы с Сирией и реальное подтягивание РЕГУЛЯРНЫХ ВОЙСК к границе ? Да это прямое втравливание турок в войну со вполне конкретной реакцией России на вторжение в Сирию !Песков уже публично заявил о том что курды воюют с ДАЕШ лучше ,,Сириской свободной" от Асада армией. Что называется - делайте выводы между строк о последствиях эскалации .
            1. U-96
              U-96 29 November 2015 11: 38 New
              +2
              avt
              Neither reduce nor add)
              Offset and respect.
  8. PQ-18
    PQ-18 29 November 2015 09: 19 New
    +4
    Экономические санкции - "одна сторона медали"...
    "военная" -другая, а вот Курдистан..
    это "ежа в турецкие шаровары запустить"
  9. Wedmak
    Wedmak 29 November 2015 09: 21 New
    +2
    The economic war is expanding. There is already a whole gang against Russia - the USA, EU, Ukraine and Turkey.
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 29 November 2015 09: 24 New
      0
      Quote: Wedmak
      The economic war is expanding. There is already a whole gang against Russia - the USA, EU, Ukraine and Turkey.

      USA??? No, they stand on the sidelines, they look, consult ... kakbe is not in the subject.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 29 November 2015 09: 41 New
        0
        look-consult ... kakbe not in the subject.

        That's it, what the fuck. In fact, these are the most important ringleaders in this circle of young Russophobia. Of all the provocations, sanctions and other sticks, American ears stick into our wheels.
    2. your1970
      your1970 29 November 2015 18: 13 New
      0
      especially the last two bandits - the 404 country and Turkey, these yes-these will tear the Russian economy to shreds ...
  10. Chak
    Chak 29 November 2015 09: 21 New
    +7
    This is correct, but it will not be enough. It is necessary to recognize Turkey through the UN as the organizer, sponsor and accomplice of terrorists, then there will be a slightly different scenario.
    By the way, there was a message about an earthquake in Turkey 4,9 - 5,0 points. It seems that the Turks pulled a fart. laughing
  11. andre
    andre 29 November 2015 09: 21 New
    +1
    Of course, this hour I wanted kaaaak to gasp in Turkey, especially in Perdogan. But ..., there are many, but which we must be able to put for the good of Russia, for this we have the President. One thing is worrying that the country's domestic reserves are declining, the bureaucracy is issuing anti-people’s laws (Plato) exactly before the holidays, although it gives time to the same kaklam from January 1 ?!
  12. sober
    sober 29 November 2015 09: 22 New
    +1
    Yes, and shook them tonight! Maybe there really is GOD ???
  13. Rigla
    Rigla 29 November 2015 09: 23 New
    12
    The most important thing is for us to impose sanctions, do not buy Turkish grub, clothes, shoes and so on.
    1. RUS96
      RUS96 29 November 2015 09: 50 New
      +5
      .........................................
  14. Sasha75
    Sasha75 29 November 2015 09: 24 New
    -6
    The only thing that upsets the country is the merchants who sanction us, and we sell gas to them. Ukraine and the earth equal the gas discount, and the Turks decided that they would have a discount on something for a downed plane because the more you wipe your feet on Russia, the more discounts and gives loans even without return. THIS IS OUR FOREIGN POLICY AND SO WILL BE ON. Imagine 1942, we are also trading with Germany, but what money is because our country has become a pipe country and the president thinks it is not sad. Once again, our feet will be blotted out, and we will again, by their rules, play even the stupid Khrushchev turns out to be a genius by comparison with the current government.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 29 November 2015 13: 01 New
      +3
      America traded with the Germans until 1944, if you are not in the know. And rose on it so that it’s still in chocolate. Just for information.
      1. avt
        avt 29 November 2015 13: 11 New
        +3
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        America traded with the Germans until 1944,

        Равно как и Турция хромом , пока наши не перекрыли коридор - Болгарию с Румынией , вот тогда Гитлер ,,...прошел он коридорчиком и кончил стенкой кажется ."
  15. kepmor
    kepmor 29 November 2015 09: 27 New
    +1
    Who knows, the body of our pilot basmachi returned?
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 29 November 2015 09: 33 New
      0
      While silence, they will remain silent, bastards.
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 29 November 2015 13: 03 New
        +2
        They just said in the news, they returned it to our embassy in Turkey, now they are thinking about how to send them home.
  16. Neophyte
    Neophyte 29 November 2015 09: 28 New
    +4
    Пока неясна судьба мегапроектов:"Турецкий поток"и новострой АЭС?Как бы, России
    did not have to regret the invested funds for these projects?
  17. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 29 November 2015 09: 30 New
    +4
    Тут мысли такие пришли. Известно, что НАТО готовит быстрый глобальный удар против нас.Уже накоплены 7 тыс. КР Томагавк по некоторым расчетам. Из них 5000 - морская компонента. Так вот Турция - обострение, чтобы под предлогом ее защиты начать вводить свои корабли с КР в ЧМ.В Черное море им нужно обязательно, причем в больших количествах, иначе БГУ теряет смысл. Так вот, в ближайшее время нас должны начать обучать , как собаку Павлова, чтобы мы привыкали к нарушению конвенции Монтре. Сначала три зайдут, потом- 4, потом -6. И успокаивать нас " Все хорошо, это ПРО для защиты наших союзников". Не знаю, как наши ответят, но такого допускать нельзя.
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 29 November 2015 09: 37 New
      +2
      So what? Hunting them to fly on the fly? It's like swimming in an aquarium to piranhas and thinking it's just a guppy.
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 29 November 2015 09: 50 New
        +3
        Are we ready to drown them right away, without talking? If not, then we will grumble and look at the strengthening of the US group in the World Cup.
        1. Strezhevchanin
          Strezhevchanin 29 November 2015 19: 51 New
          0
          Quote: Good AAAH
          Are we ready to drown them right away, without talking? If not, then we will grumble and look at the strengthening of the US group in the World Cup.

          And their point is also not iron, the Black Sea meets them only in NATO ports, and somehow they have no ice on our shores. And let me remind you that there is so much nishtyak piled on that they already will be bored in the Bosphorus.
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    2. Frigate
      Frigate 29 November 2015 11: 11 New
      -4
      Quote: Good AAAH
      Тут мысли такие пришли. Известно, что НАТО готовит быстрый глобальный удар против нас.Уже накоплены 7 тыс. КР Томагавк по некоторым расчетам. Из них 5000 - морская компонента. Так вот Турция - обострение, чтобы под предлогом ее защиты начать вводить свои корабли с КР в ЧМ.В Черное море им нужно обязательно, причем в больших количествах, иначе БГУ теряет смысл. Так вот, в ближайшее время нас должны начать обучать , как собаку Павлова, чтобы мы привыкали к нарушению конвенции Монтре. Сначала три зайдут, потом- 4, потом -6. И успокаивать нас " Все хорошо, это ПРО для защиты наших союзников". Не знаю, как наши ответят, но такого допускать нельзя.

      If the West is sure of victory, it does not need pretexts. It will come right away. The West simply checked Putin and received the answer that he was not a warrior, but a cowardly trader. China also took note.
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 29 November 2015 11: 40 New
        0
        If the West is sure of victory, it does not need pretexts. It will come right away. The West simply checked Putin and received the answer that he was not a warrior, but a cowardly trader. China also took note.

        We need to cook the frog slowly (us), otherwise we jump out. (we’ll sink) They have no wild advantages, so they’ll crawl gradually so that we don’t get wedged in. Imagine that 20 ships with Tomahawks immediately enter the World Cup, we will bristle right away. But if you gradually, and even give a sedative, in the form of sweet speeches, then you can.
        By the way, I do not agree about GDP. When he speaks, he knows better. Until recently, we sat in the ass and quietly watched how NATO acts. Now they have bitten off the Crimea. In all cases, Putin has yet to start a war against the whole West. And our next leader will be iron, butchering all enemies.
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      3. tolian
        tolian 29 November 2015 12: 40 New
        +4
        Под ником "Фрегат" проржавевшая шайка.
        1. Frigate
          Frigate 29 November 2015 14: 27 New
          -1
          Quote: tolian
          Под ником "Фрегат" проржавевшая шайка.


          When a person does not have enough brains to express his point of view, he begins to be rude forever.
          Tolian, did you miss the Censor?))
      4. Mik-51
        Mik-51 29 November 2015 15: 09 New
        +2
        Quote: Frigate
        If the West is sure of victory, it does not need pretexts. It will come right away. The West simply checked Putin and received the answer that he was not a warrior, but a cowardly trader. China also took note.



        here glory to all the gods who are, that are not like you at the helm of power in Russia. Would you guide ...
        1. Frigate
          Frigate 29 November 2015 15: 35 New
          +1
          Quote: mik-51

          here glory to all the gods who are, that are not like you at the helm of power in Russia. Would you guide ...

          Yes, I’m not from Putin’s love. And I don’t pray for him like a holy cow.
          Many believe that Putin began to revive Russia, and he just began to rebuild the army in order to protect his interests and those of the oligarch thieves. For after the assassination of Gaddafi, it came to him and the oligarchs that the same fate awaited them.
          And the people, let him spit on the people.
  18. askort154
    askort154 29 November 2015 09: 35 New
    +4
    А на обратной стороне указа - "всячески оказывать содействие курдам в борьбе за независимость".
    1. lecturer
      lecturer 29 November 2015 11: 26 New
      0
      Да,да,да!!! хотел прочитать до конца и написать про курдов, НО, Вы меня оперативненько обошли... Поэтому, просто плюсик"+" Вам.
      PS Most likely, now the Kurds also have a national upsurge and ...
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  19. Baloo
    Baloo 29 November 2015 09: 38 New
    +1
    Rigla The most important thing is for us to impose sanctions, do not buy Turkish grub, clothes, shoes and more.
    The attack on the Su-24 is revenge for the bombed fuel trucks. Oil trading ISIS is the business of Erdogan’s son. Russia's response to the treachery of the Fuhrer Janissaries is quite adequate.
    Support.

    А вот альтернативное мнение представителя либерасятины "живу в России, но ее не навижу":
    "Вот объясните мне, дураку: Турция сбила наш самолёт. Это ужасно и отношения между странами, естественно. испортились. Мы больше не хотим покупать турецкие товары. Это ведь нормально и естественно, правда? Почему так и не сказать открытым текстом - мы с вами больше не дружим и покупать у вас ничего не станем? Нет, собирается россельхознадзор и будет нам объяснять что турецкие продукты, оказывается, не соответствуют стандартам. Как было с рижскими шпротами и грузинским вином - вчера еще соответствовали, сегодня - нет. Вот зачем эта клоунада?" - написал Макаревич.
    Symptomatic? There, in his new song, he admits that everything is in r \ o \ in \ n \ e- and that is his whole essence. I explain: In sprats, the high content of carcinogen is flame retardant, Turkish tomatoes and cucumbers are genetic engineering in hydroponics (chemistry), and not in the ground. Add the effects of pesticides and herbicides. By the way, it would be nice to check Chinese and imported rice for mercury content.
    1. U-96
      U-96 29 November 2015 09: 52 New
      +9
      Quote: Balu
      Symptomatic?

      what did Makar say wrong?
      Quote: Balu
      In sprats there is a high content of carcinogen non-pyrene, Turkish tomatoes and cucumbers-genetic engineering in hydroponics (chemistry), and not in the soil. Add the effects of pesticides and herbicides.

      Yes, it's all clear. It’s only strange - in order to consider all this crap in import grub, political motivation was needed, and not elementary care for the health of citizens. And on Vesti FM one cheerful Armenian broadcasts, which either directly or indirectly claims that GMOs are not scary, palm oil is hurt, and most citizens are stupid ignorant people who think in 19th century categories.
      1. Baloo
        Baloo 29 November 2015 09: 55 New
        +3
        palm oil - get hurt

        The key word is hurt yourself. Palm oil is hardly processed in the body and is deposited anywhere. This is his long-term danger.
        1. U-96
          U-96 29 November 2015 10: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Balu
          Palm oil is hardly processed in the body and is deposited anywhere. This is his long-term danger.

          Это не ко мне. Позвоните в эфир Вести ФМ и объясните. Их-то, надеюсь, не считаете "либерастами"?
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          2. Baloo
            Baloo 29 November 2015 10: 18 New
            +5
            On some central channels, programs are being broadcast specifically to increase consumer literacy, how to choose products, etc. Previously, there were state standard specifications now. If I'm not mistaken, GOST canceled the iPhone.
            Be that as it may, it is necessary to introduce GOST, without this the quality of the products will not increase, only the price will increase.
            I stopped buying sausages for a long time, even before the composition began to print on them. I make boiled pork in the oven, it’s cheaper, healthier and tastier.
            1. U-96
              U-96 29 November 2015 11: 08 New
              +1
              Quote: Balu
              I make boiled pork in the oven, it’s cheaper, healthier and tastier.

              of course. Do you grow the initial product yourself in the country?
              1. Turkir
                Turkir 29 November 2015 14: 32 New
                +2
                And if you grow, then what feed?
                And then what do you feed yourself grow?
                And if you grow it yourself, then with what fertilize?
                And where are the seeds ..?
                Is the land good?
                And where is the earth ...
                Conclusion - the land of the people. sad
                And everyone will have boiled pork. smile
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                Today in the news -
                Putin signed the law on transferring to the budget 90% of the Central Bank's profit for 2015
                1. U-96
                  U-96 29 November 2015 14: 49 New
                  -3
                  Quote: Turkir
                  And where is the earth ...
                  Conclusion - the land of the people.
                  And everyone will have boiled pork.

                  correct continuation of the logical chain)
                  Но у меня почему-то все больше аллюзия с "Москва 2042" Войновича)
                  1. Turkir
                    Turkir 29 November 2015 22: 05 New
                    0
                    You know, I did not read Voinovich. I read basic or classic or special. History literature.
                    You in the previous comment posed the right question to Balu, I put both of you on the plus side, to him for not eating sausage (and doing it right), and to you for expressing doubt that Balu and I cannot be sure quality of meat consumed. Most of the year I am in an ecologically clean area, where meat is fed in the highlands. I am sure that Balu is also confident in his product.
                    ------
                    I do not understand why you got the cons. You have sensible comments, I remember you.
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                3. Baloo
                  Baloo 29 November 2015 17: 56 New
                  +1
                  And if you grow, then what feed?
                  I have a summer house in the Tatar village. There, in almost every yard, they keep cattle and / or poultry (even turkey and Pekingese), grow potatoes, mow hay, buy straw in bales. Only lonely old people can’t afford it. Where two generations under one roof, it’s easier for them.
                  A neighbor has a bathhouse with a small pool, two cars, in a house in the city all the amenities. As my grandfather said: whoever works is that person. hi
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              4. Baloo
                Baloo 29 November 2015 17: 50 New
                0
                Do you grow the initial product yourself in the country?
                I take a fresh loin on the market, the neck is juicier, but the loin is more ingenious. In our Kazan markets everything was heaped up: horsemeat, lamb, pork, turkey, etc. There are no ostriches, although farmers grow them.
                And what is the question, are you worse?
                1. your1970
                  your1970 29 November 2015 18: 28 New
                  0
                  And what is the question, are you worse?
                  You see, the question meant sarcasm apparently. For example, you can buy meat on the market fresh (fresh!) - but it will taste a little strange and cook differently, not like ordinary pork ..
                  1. Baloo
                    Baloo 29 November 2015 20: 41 New
                    0
                    Fresh meat is not very useful, there cadaveric substances have not yet disappeared. Any meat should be weathered for a day.
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 29 November 2015 22: 53 New
                      0
                      fresh meat meant freshly killed-cadaveric substances? I don’t know, maybe I like something more (see avatar) I prefer sausages yes
                      Seriously, there are bad versions about large pig farms such as meat from there, on vitamins, etc., and they buy in bulk from the markets.
                      If you think that you have exclusively farming, then you are mistaken ... for a millionaire city (Kazan-1,2mln) even if 0,1kg per day per capita 1 000 000 * 0,1 = 100 tons repeat meat per day is necessary, with an average weight of 100 kg of meat, and this is a very good pig, they need 1000 goals daily. A very good farmer can grow as much - but once (for one day !!!)
                      Pig complexes rule !!!
                      In your case, the situation is even more complicated with horse and mutton - you have not had sheep breeding with large pastures for a long time, that is, livestock breeding complexes again, and horses gain live weight for a long time (more than a year).
                      So in the market the meat from the owner may be, but this is unlikely if the market is large / not spontaneous ....
                      1. Baloo
                        Baloo 30 November 2015 08: 23 New
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                        In the city of a millionaire, they eat not only pork.
                        As for lamb, in my village, only on our street, many keep lambs.
                        Something in your calculations is wrong. There are more beef and poultry in the bazaars than pork. hi
                        What are we arguing about? Come pack.
                        Что касается "витаминов" и гормонов... У фермеров нет средств для закупки химии.
                        Frozen imported meat only in Zelgross type hypermarkets.
                      2. your1970
                        your1970 30 November 2015 12: 51 New
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                        I took the minimum amount of meat per capita-100g. Pork what -Well, naturally, she doesn’t lead you repeat .
                        But the required amount of meat from this does not decrease.
                        Lambs - yes, they grow fast enough, but unlike pigs there is one Trouble-2 lamb is rare enough, the pig is fertile-7-10 piglets-easy ..
                        Beef also has its advantages: milk, butter, cheese, but .. also just one calf ..
                        Horses - long, more than a year
                        the bird is in the lead, growth periods allow, duck can be chopped in 70 days already ..
                        Believe me, city-millionaires eat sooooo much and 10 to the sheep from your street (or even the farmer’s 1000 goals — and this is already a very good herd) the situation in Kazan cannot be saved.
                        Examples: Leningrad and the Road of Life — when cars went day and night without stopping to provide at least 125 gr of bread to residents.
                        Or our city (10 000 population in total) - every day in 7 meat On average, 20 pigs, 20-25 rams, 5-7 slingshot heads diverge on average, after lunch, fresh meat is usually no longer sold out. This is when there are 3 chain stores (with meat products) and a market (I don’t know how many there are, but also a few goals go away) ...
                    2. Baloo
                      Baloo 2 December 2015 16: 36 New
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                      More than half of our lives back on food hygiene, we were taught that meat after slaughter should be at least a day to weather in a chilled form, so that the concentration of substances released into the blood during slaughter decreases. hi
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              5. Turkir
                Turkir 1 December 2015 11: 22 New
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                A legitimate question, from an environmental point of view, was asked not by me, but by U-96.
                Он предположил, что вы берете мясо в том же магазине, где продается колбаса и выразил сомнение, что таким образом вы перейдете на "безопасную" еду.
                I continued his logic of the question - thereby showing that it all comes down to the ecology of the environment, to soil conditionon which all the foods we eat depend. I suggested that both you and I know areas where the environment is okay. wink
          3. your1970
            your1970 29 November 2015 18: 25 New
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            GOSTs fell away at the end of 90 - no one even knew GDP
            The cost of GOSTs (the very creation of them) is a very expensive pleasure, not that a word-comma / dot can bring / carry millions of profits
            An old dispute - what to consider cognac alcohol - and what cognac, or cotton dust dust, seemingly complete waste waste - and in Ukraine money is printed with the obligatory addition of this dust (which was strictly GOST during the USSR)
            Therefore, there are no GOSTs as such anywhere in the world — only the USSR has mastered them, standards are everywhere, and this is a little different
            1. Baloo
              Baloo 29 November 2015 20: 46 New
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              Sausage was in the USSR, because there was GOST on it, and now sausage-sucker-sausage products. Not every cat will risk trying.
              So it’s better to cook it yourself, especially since making sausage at home is not a problem now, there would be a freezer of sufficient volume for storage and time.
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 29 November 2015 20: 38 New
      -2
      what did Makar say wrong?
      Kukarevich once again caved in under a changing world, once again betrayed the memory of his father. When enemies advance, people rally.
      as they say in the east: a flock of sheep from a pack of wolves will be beaten off. A lone wolf is bitten and rats.
      1. U-96
        U-96 29 November 2015 22: 20 New
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        Quote: Balu
        what did Makar say wrong?
        Kukarevich once again caved in under a changing world, once again betrayed the memory of his father. When enemies advance, people rally.

        да ни хрена, пардон, он не предал и не прогнулся, не фантазируйте. Он сформулировал то, что на уме у большинства. Причём - далеко не у "либерастов", "пятой колонны" и прочих анфан терриблей, которыми патриоты детей и старушек пугают. Не надо. Прозревшие эксперты нашли какую-то палочку в чём-то турецком после того, как наш МИД насупил брови? Не смешите Вы, ради Бога.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 30 November 2015 08: 17 New
          +1
          For what merits to Rodina was Kukarevich awarded with government awards? Strengthened the defense, made a discovery? For strumming drinking bouts of those in power? Kukarevich with all the authorities rubbed near the authorities.
          There’s no time for GDP to engage in drinking and listening to Kukarevich’s purr, that’s the whole point of Kukarevich’s positioning. True, here the dog and the dog husband hinted at a problem with the Crimean Kukarevich vineyards. But they are such dogs, they will lie without looking, to be prostrated for fun.
          As for creativity ... Vysotsky was a rebel,
          but he never allowed himself filth to the homeland.
          Песня про гербарий? Так это про театральную тусовку, в которой можно было угадать отдельные личности. После знакомства с полдюжиной анталогий старых блюзменов, хотя бы 50-60х годов, "творчество" кукаревича воспринимаешь иначе.
          1. Turkir
            Turkir 1 December 2015 11: 32 New
            +1
            After meeting half a dozen old-blues-book anthologies of at least the 50-60s

            Honestly - Makarevich for me as a musician is an absolutely empty place.
            Everything is known in comparison, 2.5 thousand albums of classics and jazz, this improvisational music, in my collection, only this is confirmed.
            But if you listen to only one Makarevich, then he is undoubtedly better than everyone else ... of whom you know nothing.
            1. Baloo
              Baloo 1 December 2015 21: 26 New
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              The chamber style of performance and clumsy texts captivates. It creates the illusion that this is his boy from the class, yard, group, platoon, your friend, brother. He listened to his last opus: Yiddish jazz. It seems that he was present at the rehearsal of an amateur orchestra, which is original to attract attention.
              Something I don’t remember, that Kukarevich opposed EBN, no, I don’t remember. hi
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  • Million
    Million 29 November 2015 09: 40 New
    +1
    Interestingly, Erdogan himself then realized which puddle he sat in?
  • atamankko
    atamankko 29 November 2015 09: 44 New
    0
    Thank God, a start has been made.
  • Lexeus
    Lexeus 29 November 2015 09: 52 New
    +2
    I would like to believe, but ...........
  • PValery53
    PValery53 29 November 2015 09: 58 New
    -1
    Erdogan, pray before the execution!
  • Mestny
    Mestny 29 November 2015 10: 08 New
    -1
    Quote: Civil
    Ниче подобного, там такой же как у нас "патриотический" вой в прессе на фоне экономического кризиса, правда лира так не падала...

    У каждой страны имеется такой "патриотический вой", если Вам угодно так выражаться. У США свой, у Израиля свой, у России свой.
    И вот что странно - чем сильнее и крепче страна, тем сплочённее и громче этот "вой".
    I wonder why?
    Maybe this is one of the main indicators of the effectiveness of power in the country and, as a consequence, the effectiveness of the country itself ?.
  • Yarik
    Yarik 29 November 2015 10: 08 New
    +1
    Well, everything, Turkey pi_pets. Can I also sign a sign?
  • Victor1
    Victor1 29 November 2015 10: 21 New
    +5
    And it's all? where is the ban on the construction of nuclear power plants? We are building a nuclear power plant for the hostile state at our own expense as loans, and after all this, a ban on this disgrace will not be given? And energy students are also expelled from the country.
    After all, a nuclear power plant is an opportunity to create a nuclear program for military purposes, and we will provide this on a silver platter? The most important thing is silence ..
    1. Yarik
      Yarik 29 November 2015 10: 38 New
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      This is a tricky plan. laughing
    2. U-96
      U-96 29 November 2015 11: 10 New
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      Quote: Victor1
      where is the ban on the construction of nuclear power plants?

      funny to ban yourself laughing Dear, Akkuy is completely our project.
      1. Victor1
        Victor1 29 November 2015 13: 00 New
        +3
        built on the territory of Turkey, with our money, at the expense of repayment for% of sales, the Turks are trained in nuclear energy.
        And where is the guarantee that in 10 years they will not start a military nuclear program? And they will begin to move in this direction 100%. Moreover, the more nuclear powers of our enemies, the more beneficial to our other enemies, who are sleeping and see how to destroy us.
        This is not our project, this is the project of the Alegarchate, who does not care about the State Security in the future, if only to grab more now. And the fact that this project was not covered up only confirms this. I hope all the same will change their minds and cover up this adventure.
        1. U-96
          U-96 29 November 2015 15: 27 New
          -2
          Quote: Victor1
          And where is the guarantee that in 10 years they will not start a military nuclear program?

          if they needed to, they would start long ago without us.
          Quote: Victor1
          This is not our project, this is a project of the allegory,

          what, nafig,
          Quote: Victor1
          allegarchy
          ? RosAtom - state corporation.
          Quote: Victor1
          who do not care about state security in the future

          is it about Rosatom?
          Quote: Victor1
          And the fact that this project was not covered up only confirms this.

          yes give up. This is already more like a grumbling.
          1. Victor1
            Victor1 29 November 2015 15: 52 New
            +1
            if they needed to, they would start long ago without us.
            who would let them do it?
            ---
            Строится АЭС на турецкой территории, подготавливается турецкие специалисты по атомной энергетике. Причём всё на наши деньги. Ну да всё в "порядке".
            Today, our plane was pointedly shot down. Tomorrow, problems with nuclear power plants will begin, all the more this is a good reason to pull the strings, especially when it is ready. You can’t trust the Turks.
            1. U-96
              U-96 29 November 2015 22: 36 New
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              Quote: Victor1
              all the more this is a good reason to pull the strings

              yes what strings?
              Quote: Victor1
              who would let them do it?

              if they didn’t give it, they won’t give it in the future, with or without us, with RosAtom or US AEC.
              Quote: Victor1
              Turkish nuclear specialists trained

              Well yes, so what? RosAtom now completely abandon projects, say, in Argentina or Brazil because of your suspicions that the staff is clearly not a peaceful atom there ... Bastards ...
              Quote: Victor1
              You can’t trust the Turks.

              Cap, that's a plus laughing
              Counter-question: with your painful suspicion - and who, in fact, in terms of nuclear energy can be trusted ???? Everywhere ... these ... Well, in general, you are in the know, apparently.
              Oh yes - and more
              Quote: Victor1
              allegarchy
              laughing
  • Dr dron
    Dr dron 29 November 2015 10: 37 New
    +1
    Турция нам была многовековым врагом. И сейчас "главный кукловод" дернул за нужные ниточки. Травля на Россию продолжается. Но мы выстоим, так как русских, как никого другого, объединяет общее горе.
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 29 November 2015 10: 50 New
    +2
    Well, to whom is war, and to whom is mother dear. Wait for the New Year on the shelves of the country authentic and endemic Belarusian tangerines.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 29 November 2015 14: 02 New
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      If for you the main thing is tangerines, then you are welcome to Turkey, there are many of them.
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 29 November 2015 15: 22 New
        +1
        Quote: Good AAAH
        If for you the main thing is tangerines, then you are welcome to Turkey, there are many of them.

        Ню-ню. А не мандарины главное, уважаемый! А главное - уж ежели сказано "А", то надо доходить до конца алфавита.Санкции, так санкции. Эмбарго, так эмбарго. И пресекать деятельность всяких хитрованов ищющих обходные пути на благо своего кармана решительно и бесскомпромиссно. Или сможете утверждать, что белорусский Батька в подобном не замечен?
  • pvv113
    pvv113 29 November 2015 10: 54 New
    +5
    President of the Russian Federation signed a decree on economic measures against Turkey

    With traitors - just like that!
  • Gunther
    Gunther 29 November 2015 11: 12 New
    +2
    ... banned employers from January 1, 2016 hiring workers from among Turkish citizens, decided to prohibit or restrict the activities of organizations under the jurisdiction of Turkey in Russia

    Вот это правильно, как в пословице, "не было бы счастья, да несчастье помогло".
    And to the heap it is necessary to dismiss the Turks, who have warmed our bosom, let them blow to Regge Perdogan, he will tell them that protecting the borders is more important.
  • Dargavs
    Dargavs 29 November 2015 11: 18 New
    +2
    Very happy news. Yes, fruits can be re-sticked on a label, but a tourist vacationer just doesn’t get lured. For 20 years, the Turks deliberately announced terrorists to intercept the entire tourist flow of Russia, they succeeded, our tourism has died for 15 years. In comparison with the flows of the 80s, this is the case! God forbid, the state’s purposeful policy of encouraging entrepreneurs, And believe me, the Turkish coast is no better ...
  • Sedoy_greek
    Sedoy_greek 29 November 2015 11: 26 New
    +6
    Хорошая и правильная новость!!! Вот бы еще и "матрасникам" хвост прищемить!!! Звездно-полосатые уши отчетливо виднеются за борзым Пердоганом!!!
  • Yves762
    Yves762 29 November 2015 11: 39 New
    -1
    Vladimir Putin signed a decree concerning the use of special economic measures against Turkey, RIA Novosti reported, citing the Kremlin’s press service.

    Ага. "Экономического характера" и именно "специальных"... Санкции то есть, в западной терминологии.
    But if you leave the survival of the terms, then it is worth recalling 2 points from the rhetoric of Our authorities, at least for the first glance:
    1) “Sanctions painfully hit those who introduce them”;
    2) "Sanctions do not lead to anything."
    . request .
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 29 November 2015 13: 14 New
      +2
      Again, we are all eager to hear your ingenious offers.
      1. Yves762
        Yves762 29 November 2015 15: 20 New
        +1
        Feed their prime minister an expired shawarma. In vain chtol feed the 4th division of the GRU.?.
        Well ... not so sure. But in the same vein. Sapienti sat.
        They have already come to the wallet with Syria, but there are no other clear arguments left in those parts.
    2. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 29 November 2015 14: 46 New
      +2
      Sanctions are imposed by those who can afford it, against those who will be affected by these sanctions! Example American anti-Russian sanctions to Europe! How subtly and accurately designed and implemented! laughing So I think the introduction of deliberate sanctions against the current Turkish authorities is a very right step.
      1. Yves762
        Yves762 29 November 2015 15: 13 New
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        For the States and Europe - for example. (Although in my opinion this is just a way to drive the Old Woman into the TransAtlantic with minimal resistance ...)
        И как оно позволит Нам решить вопрос с поддержкой Турцией терроризма в регионе? Или цель другая Наша там??? Не "импортозамещение" надеюсь.?.
        I do not believe point blank that the elite that really holds power in Turkey will lose more from Our "специальных мер экономического характера"than if backtracking with the same terror support. Not to mention the loss of image in the region.
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 29 November 2015 12: 13 New
    +3
    Turkey must be wrinkled until it turns into a chicken y ... eye! They only understand the economic impact ..
  • SPB 1221
    SPB 1221 29 November 2015 12: 48 New
    +4
    Quote: True
    Much in foreign policy is tied to the image of Putin as a macho man, the tough leader of a huge nuclear country. And here yesterday, a Pole on TV already said that the king is naked! We wiped ourselves off. It was a check for lice and we did not pass it. I think the pressure on Russia will only increase now.


    Apparently this one Pole is a big authority for you? And tomorrow, one of the Russophobes will say something else, so what? For me, I think and for many it is clear that Russia is able to fuck Turkey in the event of a military conflict. I'm not talking about the rest of the viciously yapping mongrel like Poland, the Baltic states and the like, pouring oil on fire.
    But the most important thing in sex is the prelude and the act itself, this is the logical conclusion of this prelude.
    Война это край! Россия доведет Турцию до такого состояния, когда та сама скажет "хочу" а потом вставит ей по самые гланды, как это не раз было в Российской истории, связанной с этой страной. Да и кстати от повышения давления в крайних случаях борются кровопусканием!!!
    I didn’t minus it, because apparently you still haven’t figured out the truth!
  • Talbot86
    Talbot86 29 November 2015 13: 18 New
    +4
    In the future I thought about going to Ararat in Turkey, and now I think I’m probably in Armenia
  • 3officer
    3officer 29 November 2015 15: 49 New
    +2
    Well, actually .. the question of the division of Turkey has already been resolved. Now we need to settle the questions of the administrative subordination of the new regions. I propose to rename the area with straits, including the Bosphorus, Dadanelles and Sea of ​​Marmara to the New Byzantine region or the Tsargrad Autonomous District. laughing
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 29 November 2015 16: 02 New
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      За юмор, "+".
  • Mentat
    Mentat 29 November 2015 16: 21 New
    +1
    Quote: Frigate
    Quote: Good AAAH
    Тут мысли такие пришли. Известно, что НАТО готовит быстрый глобальный удар против нас.Уже накоплены 7 тыс. КР Томагавк по некоторым расчетам. Из них 5000 - морская компонента. Так вот Турция - обострение, чтобы под предлогом ее защиты начать вводить свои корабли с КР в ЧМ.В Черное море им нужно обязательно, причем в больших количествах, иначе БГУ теряет смысл. Так вот, в ближайшее время нас должны начать обучать , как собаку Павлова, чтобы мы привыкали к нарушению конвенции Монтре. Сначала три зайдут, потом- 4, потом -6. И успокаивать нас " Все хорошо, это ПРО для защиты наших союзников". Не знаю, как наши ответят, но такого допускать нельзя.

    If the West is sure of victory, it does not need pretexts. It will come right away. The West simply checked Putin and received the answer that he was not a warrior, but a cowardly trader. China also took note.

    Screaming throats in close relationship with provocateurs, fools and madmen.
  • afrikanez
    afrikanez 29 November 2015 17: 29 New
    0
    On the ground, as always, local officials will again sell for 30 pieces of silver. Maybe in Moscow. something for the Turks will change, but not on the periphery.
  • Engineer
    Engineer 29 November 2015 18: 45 New
    0
    Regrettably, but resolutely, Turkey did not receive an answer: signing a decree instructing Dmitry Ayfonchik to compile a list of goods and other rubbish to ban the import is the same as simply throwing this decree into the basket. Wimps!
  • soldat74
    soldat74 29 November 2015 20: 13 New
    0
    Давно пора ребята их укоротить. А так же и некоторых наших толстосумов. Я в одно время работал на экономической зоне в Республике Татарстан около г. Елабуга. На заводе "Хаят Кимья". Там турки свалили до и после инцидента с нашим су-24. Гнать их с нашей страны. Да пострадают те кому они платили, некоторые наши толстосумы, которые считают, что за все платить должны мы!
  • Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 29 November 2015 22: 23 New
    +1
    Quote: U-96
    Quote: Balu
    what did Makar say wrong?
    Kukarevich once again caved in under a changing world, once again betrayed the memory of his father. When enemies advance, people rally.

    да ни хрена, пардон, он не предал и не прогнулся, не фантазируйте. Он сформулировал то, что на уме у большинства. Причём - далеко не у "либерастов", "пятой колонны" и прочих анфан терриблей, которыми патриоты детей и старушек пугают. Не надо. Прозревшие эксперты нашли какую-то палочку в чём-то турецком после того, как наш МИД насупил брови? Не смешите Вы, ради Бога.

    interesting sing, ptah
  • Wolka
    Wolka 30 November 2015 05: 37 New
    0
    it’s already worked out material, now I’m more interested when our robots, together with the Syrian special forces and Kurds, will begin to clear the border with the Turks and the liquidation of the Syrian elite of Daesh leaders ...