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Today is the birthday of the letter "ё"

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And how to live in this world without the letter E? .. Capacious, juicy, powerful ... Yes, it is capable of replacing with itself not only individual words, but also whole sentences! .. This letter is a real galaxy with its star systems and their hot luminaries. And today, 29 November, this amazing letter of the Russian alphabet celebrates its birthday.


If you delve into history the letters "ё", then her birthdays are, in fact, several. The first is the November 29 of 1783, when they first speak of the need to use the new letter in the Russian alphabet. Historians tend to believe that Ekaterina Dashkova (nee Vorontsova) was the first to write the letter ё - one of Catherine Alekseevna’s closest entourage (future Empress Catherine II) entwined with the emperor Peter III and the empress’s ascent to the throne. Stats-dame of the court of Her Imperial Majesty Dashkova stood at the origins of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Historical sources say that it was she who asked the Russian scholars why there is no letter in the Russian language that expresses a characteristic combination of sounds in a word, for example, language.

Today is the birthday of the letter "ё"


It is reported that the Countess brought out with her own hand a version of the new letter of the Russian alphabet, after which she handed the piece to her representative, who named Metropolitan Gavriil of Novgorod and Petersburg, a member of the St. Petersburg Academy of Sciences. After the deliberative procedures, it was decided that it was such a spelling that should be taken for a new Russian letter - the letter “ё”.

However, the birth of a letter in 1783 can be considered purely formal. At least 12 has practically never used the letter in any artistic texts or in official documents. The so-called linguistic conservatism worked, and the letter “ё” was considered by some to look awkward in Russian literature, while others saw it as a whim of a noble person “mocking the language”.

However, by the year 1795, the letter “e” makes its way into documents and literary texts. This year can be considered the second year of birth of the letter of the Russian alphabet. The first official use of this letter (or, as experts say, graphemes) is found in the book by I. I. Dmitriev, “And my doodles,” printed at Ridiger and Claudia’s printing house at Moscow University. In 1797 (according to another version - in 1796), the letter takes its place in the texts collected and published by N. Karamzin. We are talking about "Aonida." In fact, this is the first Russian poetic almanac, which contains poetic works of both Karamzin himself and other literary figures of the era - Derzhavin, Kheraskov, Vasily Pushkin, and others.
An important detail can be considered that in Ridiger and Claudia’s printing houses it was not necessary to create a special form for a new letter. Against the background of the then fascination of Russian nobility with the French language, this was a superfluous matter. The reason is that for prints of French literary works "e" has already been used. For example, talking about the French word "Noel".

Since 1803, the letter “e” has been used in the journal of the Ministry of Public Education. Alexander Sergeevich Pushkin resorted to the use of "e".
It should be noted that in the dictionary of V. Dahl, instead of the characteristic spelling of the letter “e”, a letter with two dots was used.

Surprisingly, the second birthday of this letter did not become the final version of its entry into the alphabet. For example, in the early Soviet sources to find the letter, to put it mildly, is not easy. It came to the point that the letter "e" had to be saved (or revived) already at the legislative level. So, December 24 1942 of the Year appears Order No. 1825 of the People's Commissariat of Education (order of the People’s Commissar of Education of the RSFSR Vladimir Potemkin).

The text of the order of five paragraphs is preserved:

I order:

§ 1
People's Commissars of Enlightenment of the Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, heads of regional, regional, district and city departments of public education, order all subordinate schools to use the letter "e" in Russian spelling in all classes of primary, incomplete secondary and secondary schools.
§ 2
The management of primary and secondary schools (m. Sarycheva) in the 2 weekly period to develop guidelines for schools on the use of the letter "e" in spelling.
§ 3
Publishers Narkompros - Uchpedgizu, Tsetgizu and Library-Bibliographic Publishing in all newly published textbooks, manuals and books for children's reading to use the letter "e."
§ 4
The Department of Primary and Secondary Schools (T. Sarycheva) and the Educational and Methodological Council (T. Skatkinu), within a month, prepare a school handbook of all words in which the use of the letter “e” causes difficulties.
Uchpedgizu (t. Sundukovu) to provide an urgent edition of this handbook in the necessary drawing.
§ 5
To all primary and secondary school grammars of the Russian language, the Department of Primary and Secondary Schools and the Methodological Council will set forth in more detail the rules for the use of the letter e.
People's Commissar of Enlightenment of the RSFSR V.Potemkin


The struggle for the use of the letter “e” is also being conducted in modern Russia, although, according to some specialists, which is difficult to divide, this letter can be used “at one’s (or, in their case,“ one’s ”) discretion”.

A letter from the Ministry of Education and Science was published in 2007 in which it was said that ignoring the use of the letter “ё”, for example, in proper names is a violation of the Federal Law “On the State Language of the Russian Federation”. That is, if there is a letter “e” in the name, then not writing it in a passport or other important document actually changes one proper name for another. As an option: Kotenochkin and Kotenochkin.

One of the symbols of protection and promotion of the letter “ё” in Russian is a monument erected in 2005 in Ulyanovsk. This is a monument to the letter "e" with its subsequent change to the updated version.



Happy birthday, yo! Friends, do not forget about the existence of this letter in the alphabet and, of course, about its worthy place in our richest language!
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  1. EvgNik
    EvgNik 29 November 2015 05: 58
    22
    I can not imagine the Russian language without this letter. Yo ... how much can be expressed!
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 29 November 2015 06: 06
      +4
      maer, food, rayan laughing
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 29 November 2015 06: 10
        37
        Quote: Petrof
        maer, food, rayan

        Yolka smile
        1. izya top
          izya top 29 November 2015 06: 14
          10
          Quote: GRAY
          Yolka

          on the Maidan?
          Yo mine belay
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 29 November 2015 06: 41
            +1
            Quote: izya top
            on the Maidan?

            Honestly, when I wrote, I did not think at all about the pig.
            Yolka on Maidanі - pristosunok for Android
            wassat
        2. botuala
          botuala 29 November 2015 09: 29
          +4
          I'm not so scary smile .
        3. the villain
          the villain 30 November 2015 02: 13
          0
          Quote: GRAY
          Yolka

          Yogurt !!! wassat
        4. a housewife
          a housewife 30 November 2015 12: 47
          0
          But he is too lazy to write two letters instead of one. And there’s nothing to it.
        5. The comment was deleted.
      2. i80186
        i80186 29 November 2015 06: 21
        39
        Well, you can, and so, because everyone understands? smile
      3. EvgNik
        EvgNik 29 November 2015 06: 40
        +2
        Quote: Petrof
        maer, food, rayan

        Petrov - also sounds good.
        1. The comment was deleted.
      4. Very old
        Very old 29 November 2015 06: 57
        17
        Yo-myo kaka edrёna theme
        It has disappeared from print, but VO is surviving on the forum
        Live happily ever after! Yo! hi
        1. Alena Frolovna
          Alena Frolovna 29 November 2015 07: 20
          30
          A fairy tale about the letter Y

          It’s good to be a poet -
          You can compose a fairy tale.
          The tale is a lie, but a hint in it.
          Along - a hint and across.
          Once above the letter “e”
          Dots appeared. Two.
          Is it a halo, and only a crown,
          There would be a fairy tale and an end,
          Only - Yo-ke-le-me-ne,
          It suddenly became known to me
          What scientist Yoshkin cat
          Take a letter by the hand
          To the alphabet with her,
          Speech seditious
          Tells her so intimately:
          “You are now legitimate,
          On you out of respect
          They stress the word.
          Not enough authority
          You are more important than any others
          Be yo-pe-re-se-te
          The letter "E", on top!
          Char you do not borrow
          You can replace letters! ”
          And then fun went:
          Mortgage - Mortgage,
          The Institute has become the Institute,
          Someone Yongduk inflated.
          Was Ivan - became Yovan
          In the kingdom bewitched.
          Everything is easy and simple:
          YOU-DO-DO-DO-DO!
          When driving incorrectly
          You get into the traffic police.
          Foreign words:
          Yokebana, both!
          Empowerment Yes Incident,
          Internet yes Tools ...
          It is only with the letter “and”
          Transformations have passed.
          And for now, all the way -
          Even Putin has become Putong.
          Well, with whom else and where
          Living in Russia Depardieu?
          We will be strong as always
          In ёfification of the country!
          If the profit is terribly rushing
          So Pencia is growing.
          So all the same Yepotek
          Do not strangle a person!
          In the letter "ё" chakras opened -
          Here we are at the перperny Theater.
          And who doesn’t sing with us,
          That, of course, is coming
          Well, it's time for me to finish
          To joke, to be naughty,
          And in short, to scoff -
          It's time to mourn!

          Galina Bestuzheva
          1. proletarian
            proletarian 29 November 2015 15: 49
            +3
            Ah well done, Well, what say: ё maё !!!
            1. Alena Frolovna
              Alena Frolovna 30 November 2015 06: 36
              +2
              Afterword to the birthday letter ё

              In a country where yo-mobiles
              Of course - yo-roads!
              Everyone knows about it.
              and stupid.
              Ah, if two troubles
              In Russia, there were only
              And where do not spit -
              Wrong!

              Well, how yo mine
              We do not love Russia?
              She shelters everyone
              And everyone will find housing.
              Whatever words
              We didn’t utter
              Sounds truer
              When the letter "ё".

              Officials on the chairs
              Do not fidget at all.
              Looks like for a long time
              Mamai did not pass.
              Grandma won't fix them
              Not a Hedgehog, not a sorceress,
              Not Galkin and not Galtsev,
              Not Yokarny Babai.

              Well, how yo mine
              We do not love Russia?
              She shelters everyone
              And everyone will find housing.
              Whatever words
              We didn’t utter
              Sounds truer
              When the letter "ё".

              Funny song
              We wanted to compose
              Easy and no wonder
              Sing it for you.
              Do not jerk, of course
              We didn’t succeed,
              Edren-loaf, whisk
              And your hedgehog is copper!

              Well, how yo mine
              We do not love Russia?
              She shelters everyone
              And everyone will find housing.
              Whatever words
              We didn’t utter
              Sounds truer
              When the letter "ё".
              Galina Bestuzheva, 30.11.2015
        2. bastard
          bastard 29 November 2015 10: 28
          12
          Quote: Very old
          Yo-myo kaka edrёna theme
          It has disappeared from print, but VO is surviving on the forum
          Live happily ever after! Yo!

          It’s hard to distinguish without the letter case и case, sky и sky, a donkey и a donkey, perfect и perfect, all и all. Some words are easily distinguished by context, like key и key, puddle и puddle, glass и glass. But due to the fact that you have to decipher it once again, a person can subconsciously avoid such words - and the contexts themselves. Connector (“Eat” instead of “eat” to color the speech) aperture, climb, the hive, perch.
          It is better to avoid ambiguous spelling.

          And here is what they wrote then, in Pushkin’s times:
          I have your grammar. Without depriving her of any dignity, let me sincerely conceal, though a trifle, in it, which, by impoverishment, was made rather important by our newest literature. You are not to blame, for you have taken a great interest in the examples of our writers. Many words are printed in it with two dots above the letter e, somehow you live, lie, pour, sing, and so on. Although it is true that everything is spoken, that is, the letter e is pronounced as іô or ё, but this pronunciation is common, never spelling and purity of the language is unusual. The invention of syya, in order to put two letters over the letter, has entered the times of perfect deterioration of the language. It has so far spread that even stars, nests, lies are written, and so on. For this I am asking you to warn you that when you print your grammar again, or some other compositions, you could have avoided that. Our language is pure and high consists in sacred books, and not in current journals, which are often written by people who do not read anything important in Russian, except French and Roman translations, who have their own syllable, and who consider themselves experts in language , learning to do this from some simple popular conversations. Nowhere in the Russian books (except for the present), in any writer of the former, we will not find this new manifestation of it.

          Shishkov - to Erstrom (actually Erstrom, hehe), 1820

          The grammar was different from the current one, however.
          1. jaroff
            jaroff 29 November 2015 20: 04
            +1
            Did you write "Russian" with one "s"? Did not know.
            1. bastard
              bastard 30 November 2015 01: 27
              +3
              Quote: zharyoff
              Did you write "Russian" with one "s"? Did not know.

              This is a copy of the original text, it is written like this twice. Probably from the word "Rus" and "Rusia" (country). My mother, a philologist, a teacher of the Russian language, rummaged through her books, such a spelling in the fragments of texts and photocopies given in the books is found everywhere.

              V. Dal argued that it is wrong to write "Russian" with two "s", and wrote with one (Russian language, Russian people, Russian land).
              In the annals one "s" - Russian, Russian.
              Where did the second "C" come from?
              In the dictionary, Dahl explains that in the old days they wrote "Russian" with one "s":
              "- Pravda Ruska; only Poland called us Russia, Russians, Russians, according to the Latin spelling, and we adopted this, transferred it to our Cyrillic alphabet and write Russian!"

              "According to the rules of Latin spelling, if the letter" C "is one, then it reads like [З], and if there are two" SS ", then it reads [C]. In Russian, the letter" C "is always read [C] and doubles very rarely, for example: quarrel, lend.
              ... ... ... Why double consonants, when it is contrary to our language, and with good pronunciation, can not be heard? "

              IN AND. Dahl.

              Such are the cases. hi
              1. but still
                but still 1 December 2015 13: 45
                +1
                "According to the rules of Latin spelling, if the letter" C "is one, then it reads like [З], and if there are two" SS ", then it reads [C]. In Russian, the letter" C "is always read [C] and doubles very rarely, for example: quarrel, lend.


                Exactly! Who? Have adopted the Latins! It is necessary to return the original spelling! smile Although ask your mother-philologist about the rules of word formation of adjectives using the suffixes "K" and "SC"
                We write the French - French, in the word "Russian" the root "rus" + the suffix "SK"

                Examples with the words "quarrel" and "lend" do not fit the topic. "C" in this case is a prefix, and the next "c" is the initial letter of the root of the word.
                1. bastard
                  bastard 4 December 2015 03: 20
                  +2
                  Quote: but still
                  ask your mother-philologist about the rules of word formation of adjectives using the suffixes "K" and "SK"
                  We write the French - French, in the word "Russian" the root "rus" + the suffix "SK"

                  Examples with the words "quarrel" and "lend" do not fit the topic. "C" in this case is a prefix, and the next "c" is the initial letter of the root of the word.

                  I ask you to pay attention to the fact that the text is enclosed in quotation marks, and the author is indicated below.
                  PS: I know the rules for forming adjectives with the suffixes "K" and "SK", I have not forgotten yet. hi
                  1. afdjhbn67
                    afdjhbn67 4 December 2015 03: 52
                    +2
                    Hi .. I have with this E a lot of problems formed in my passport, but in the state registration I had to in minutes. just two weeks to settle in the corridors ..
                    So I do not like this buffe laughing
    2. PQ-18
      PQ-18 29 November 2015 08: 02
      11
      I suggest RENAME!
      YoShkar-Ola in ..
      ЁShkar-Ola! belay
      wassat
      1. rotor
        rotor 29 November 2015 10: 08
        +1
        imperfection
    3. Good me
      Good me 29 November 2015 10: 49
      +5
      Quote: EvgNik
      I can not imagine the Russian language without this letter. Yo ... how much can be expressed!


      And how to live in this world without the letter E? ..


      Without this letter, and "Yo-mobile" would not exist ... yes Althoughwhat... and with her, something he is not fellow laughing
    4. ava09
      ava09 29 November 2015 13: 19
      +1
      "Yo" - Old Russian "YOTA" means knowledge (indicating form). And here some "isTORiki" are weaving about some Dashkova ...
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 29 November 2015 15: 11
        +2
        Quote: ava09
        "Yo" - Old Russian "YOTA" means knowledge (indicating form).
        This is the 9th letter of the Greek alphabet (Ιι - ёta, iota), means the smallest amount (not one iota). Where do you get your ё-knowledge in Old Russian?
        1. Rivares
          Rivares 29 November 2015 18: 23
          +2
          Old Russian bulb. They forgot their own and climbed into Greek?
          1. Nikotin13
            Nikotin13 29 November 2015 19: 02
            +3
            For some, the Christian religion that came to Russia from Byzantium is nothing but the True Russian Faith belay
            1. Rivares
              Rivares 29 November 2015 19: 19
              0
              The carriers of the original Orthodoxy were physically destroyed, and instead they preached Christianity, so that these "some" in Life would never figure it out, and worked for the masters and priests, instead of working for the good of their Family.
          2. Stanislas
            Stanislas 30 November 2015 09: 06
            +2
            Quote: Rivares
            Forgot your
            We had yus small (Ѧ), yus small iotated (Ѩ), but can you name a source where Ѩ is called "etoi" and where the meaning given in your tablet is attributed to it? The word "source" should be understood not as neo-pagan ("Vedic", "Holy Russian") nonsense, but an authentic text in Old Russian or a reasoned linguistic analysis of such texts.
            1. Rivares
              Rivares 4 December 2015 21: 34
              0
              Quote: Stanislav
              yus small iotated (Ѩ)

              So you yourself wrote Yotchilled (eta) the prefix in your writing iota where did it come from? In the authentic text, unfortunately, it is not indicated as a name Ѩ, and in that nonsense that you call "linguistic analysis" there is no reference to the name of the letter, there the words may, probably, probably did.
              Quote: Stanislav
              We had a small us (Ѧ), a small iotated us (Ѩ)

              You may have had it, it was different with us.
          3. but still
            but still 30 November 2015 13: 39
            0
            Quote: Rivares
            Old Russian bulb. They forgot their own and climbed into Greek?


            laughing Bukovitsa, you say? "Own"? And in Old Russian there were NOSE CONCERNS? You are just like "Macedonians" - they also invented everything in the world and they call themselves the most ancient and great smile
            1. Rivares
              Rivares 4 December 2015 21: 37
              0
              Quote: but still
              And in Old Russian there were NOSE AGREEMENTS?

              Where did I write about the "nasal"?
              Quote: but still
              You are just like "Macedonians" - they also invented everything in the world and they call themselves the most ancient and great

              Consider yourself worthless and miserable. Nobody forbids you. And my legacy is my legacy. There are no Macedonians in it.
              1. but still
                but still 7 December 2015 16: 20
                0
                And my legacy is my legacy.


                Just don't be nervous - you have a Bulgarian heritage, no matter how much you want it. Except the letter with the sound "YO" hi
                1. Rivares
                  Rivares 7 December 2015 21: 46
                  +1
                  I have a Russian heritage. As you noticed the perversion of "YO" I did not write.
                  Quote: Stanislav
                  We had a small us (Ѧ), a small iotated us (Ѩ),

                  His letter yo initially popped up (or rather, he refers to the church "inventors").
  2. iv-nord
    iv-nord 29 November 2015 05: 58
    12
    Happy birthday, yo! We have all the letters you need and are great !!! Yo - mine!
  3. venaya
    venaya 29 November 2015 05: 59
    14
    ignoring the use of the letter "ё", For example, in proper names is a violation of the Federal Law"About the state language of the Russian Federation»

    I fully support this federal law. For me, the maximum possible use of the root words of the Russian language helps and greatly simplifies both communication and the technology of evidence in difficult cases of controversy on any issue.
  4. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 29 November 2015 06: 06
    10
    Eh, yo ... !!! how much in this letter has merged for the heart of the Russian! how much has responded in it! lol hi with Birthday E ..............! drinks
  5. Bayonet
    Bayonet 29 November 2015 06: 09
    +4
    Interesting! New holiday? smile But E-mobile - passed away without being born ...
    1. Very old
      Very old 29 November 2015 06: 59
      11
      Parent impotent, this happens
  6. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 29 November 2015 06: 13
    11
    Yes, this letter left me problems! I have a simple Russian surname Vorobyov, but they didn’t put a point at my birth and problems began when processing various documents, they suggested that I redo it but you know what kind of hemera can be understood in passport offices and alteration of ALL documents so I became Vorobyov (read correctly)
    1. Aleksander
      Aleksander 29 November 2015 08: 50
      +8
      Quote: Siberia 9444
      so I became Vorobiev

      You will be surprised, but the situation has further development. My friend with the same problem as yours has a surname today ... Vorobiev (Vorobiev). And you say .... winked
  7. yuriy55
    yuriy55 29 November 2015 06: 14
    12
    Congratulate everyone!
    Oh, dashing in the beginning:
    Hedgehog hedgehog hedgehog yokat christmas tree yolkovo capacious capacity yolk yornik yorn
    and everywhere to the place:
    actor hips birch Burenka boiled fair weather all vortky vosny oars rise entry of vrazlot faceted distant turf conductor yellow hard hardness zhzhony zalet green beans grain of the decline of red-hot biting cool maple riveting wheel bonfire godfather easy lightness of the ice flax loess pilot oats flame eagle sedentary donkey screwdriver alarmist diapers stump feather dog motley film mowing bite day-to-day climb snow-flying flight flight-taking reception-father-in-law condensed-milk condensed shogun saddle-salmon shooting taiga calf dark three-tier three-wheeled three-star cliff driver four-four
    good
    1. Very old
      Very old 29 November 2015 07: 01
      +2
      Well, that’s a complete whistle.
      1. Proud.
        Proud. 29 November 2015 08: 22
        +3
        Quote: Very old
        Well, that’s a complete whistle.

        Yeah! Hedgehog.
    2. Rivares
      Rivares 29 November 2015 18: 45
      0
      Quote: yuriy55
      dash

      why the hell is written and not the hell? I heard that in the figurative meaning of Che (e) rt, it is the one who lives outside the borders of our world (in the old sense) It is written in the plural DEAD and not DEEP.
      And so in many words. The original alphabet was cut, a bunch of words stopped joining and they began to invent letters - "crutches" for the great and mighty ...
  8. Alexdark
    Alexdark 29 November 2015 06: 17
    +5
    It is strange that it is considered an illegal letter. After all, when I studied, she was in all my ABCs and primers! Anyway, today it is available there .. Is this not a sign of legalizing the letter?
  9. novobranets
    novobranets 29 November 2015 06: 17
    +2
    Well, youk-macaque, for health. laughing drinks
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 29 November 2015 06: 21
    +4
    The letter is of course capacious, but only it is often replaced by E. Probably for brevity and speed? Although the savings are not clear. Well, if it's a holiday, then I will write as expected.
    1. vladimir_krm
      vladimir_krm 29 November 2015 11: 35
      14
      Once upon a time they "saved" in printing houses - one letter less, it is easier for typesetters ... since then it has gone ...
      1. gjv
        gjv 29 November 2015 18: 25
        +2
        Quote: vladimir_krm
        Once upon a time "saved" in printing houses - one letter less

        The selective use of the letter "ё" as the norm of Russian writing was enshrined in 1956.
        Patronymic V.I. Lenin in the instrumental case, it was customary to write Ilyichёm (while for all other Ilyichs after 1956 it was used only by Ilyich). There is no evidence that this rule has been canceled.
        There is a rare Russian surname Ё French origin, which in French is written in four letters.
        The surname of the famous Russian poet Afanasy Afanasevich Fet (Foeth - German in origin) was distorted when printing his first book. He gained fame already under the name Fet. At the same time, he spent part of his life under the name Shenshin.
  11. aszzz888
    aszzz888 29 November 2015 06: 28
    -10 qualifying.
    And also, Christmas Day began yesterday. (?)
    Can such events be published on other sites, in other sections?
    I think the article is useful, but for another place of publication.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 29 November 2015 06: 47
      18
      Quote: aszzz888
      I think the article is useful, but for another place of publication.

      From what? The letter E is dreamed of being canceled by a number of our pseudo-scientists. Give them free rein: they would cut the Russian alphabet by a third. In order to equalize with wretched English.
      1. venaya
        venaya 29 November 2015 07: 43
        12
        Quote: EvgNik
        The letter E is dreamed of being canceled by a number of our pseudo-scientists. Give them free rein: they would cut the Russian alphabet by a third. In order to equalize with the wretched ...

        These "scientists"The mania for the destruction of everything Russian! How they even before the XNUMXth century in all academies explained that all European languages ​​are the essence of spoiled Hebrew! But it should be noted that they still have some successes, in particular in our programs missing accent icon, which greatly complicates, for example, the study of the Russian language by foreigners, I have already complained about this. I'll see what has been done in our domestic operating systems and analogues of the "Office" in this regard, if nothing, then must organize raids on the perpetrators.
        1. Darkness
          Darkness 29 November 2015 09: 09
          +3
          With the study of the Russian language by foreigners, in general, the trouble. Especially in the part of "obscene words and expressions". They just have a pattern break.
          1. Kombrig
            Kombrig 29 November 2015 22: 44
            0
            Quote: Darkness
            Learning the Russian language by foreigners is generally a disaster.



            Just the opposite, this is the first thing they begin to understand .. Why ...
      2. bastard
        bastard 29 November 2015 10: 57
        +1
        Quote: EvgNik
        From what? The letter E is dreamed of being canceled by a number of our pseudo-scientists. Give them free rein: they would cut the Russian alphabet by a third. In order to equalize with wretched English.

        A.V. Lunacharsky was an active supporter of the romanization of Russian writing. He saw in the Latin alphabet the advantage thanks to which Russians would be able to study the Turkic language, to which Lunacharsky attached great importance: “To study the Turkic language through the Arabic script would be prohibitively difficult. , in my opinion, to study the Turkic language, since tens of millions of our citizens, tens of millions of people who are abroad of our Union speak it. "
        Without limiting himself to his personal opinion, Lunacharsky cited his memoirs of a conversation with Lenin, in which he found full support for the idea of ​​the Latinization of Russian writing. Lenin, according to Lunacharsky, said: "I have no doubt that the time will come for the romanization of the Russian script, but now it would be imprudent to act in a hurry."
        The matter was not limited to discussion, in 1929 the People's Commissariat of Education of the RSFSR formed a commission to develop the question of the romanization of the Russian alphabet. In the minutes of the meeting of this commission dated January 14, 1930, we read: "To recognize that the romanization of the Russian alphabet should be understood as the transition of Russian writing and printing to an international alphabet, uniform for all peoples of the USSR, on a Latin basis, - the first stage towards the creation of a world international alphabet. the near future of Russians for a single international alphabet on a Latin basis is inevitable. "
        However, in 1917-1918 the spelling reform of the Russian language was carried out, which had other positive aspects, although it was actively criticized.
        http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ruwiki/1078378

        Our language was reformed both under Peter I, and under M.V. Lomonosov, as well as in 1917-1918, in 1956, 2009, 2012 and 2014.
      3. GAF
        GAF 29 November 2015 13: 30
        +4
        Quote: EvgNik
        In order to equalize with wretched English.

        I absolutely agree with you. Surzhik in Ukraine has already shown itself in all its glory. Well, Yo contributed to the victory. In the heat of battle, the Germans could not really understand the meaning of our radio conversations with an emphasis on Y. It was not because the People's Commissariat in 1942 adopted the Y armament, legally securing it in Russian.
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    3. Darkness
      Darkness 29 November 2015 09: 11
      +1
      Who started?
  12. theadenter
    theadenter 29 November 2015 06: 38
    +3
    It is necessary to remember about it not once a year, but to keep it as a rule to use it constantly!
  13. asiat_61
    asiat_61 29 November 2015 06: 41
    +6
    Our tatuped.y (Read back) wanted to cancel it, SLAVATATUPEDam. They composed the whole law, discussed more than one day (deducted from the manual). How do you sometimes want to kick them all, after such tricks, for our money.
  14. sub307
    sub307 29 November 2015 06: 53
    +3
    "E, k, l, m, n ... Oh, p, p, s, t"! Thanks to the author for the reminder. I congratulate the Russian alphabet (together with the Russian language and literature) happy birthday "e", long years of life for the bukovka.
  15. Petrof
    Petrof 29 November 2015 07: 19
    +8
    The maps intercepted by the Nazis turned out to be much more accurate than ours: if near the front line there was the village of Beryozovka, then on the maps both in Russian and in German “Beryozovka” appeared. And no "Birch", as we have. After Stalin learned about the meticulousness of the Fritz and the negligence of the Russian specialists, a decree was issued according to which "E" was strictly published in the Pravda newspaper, in books, and in government documents. Well, on the cards, of course
    http://www.km.ru/front-projects/russkii-yazyk-velikoe-dostoyanie-vsego-chelovech
    estva / kak-stalin-e-reabilitiroval
    1. tanit
      tanit 29 November 2015 08: 46
      -1
      Yes Yes. And neither of which was that Soviet maps were classified, nor the fact that foreign cartographers weren’t allowed to enter. And not what, what are the German cards of the 1913 sample?
      Got it - nothing for you. laughing
      1. Petrof
        Petrof 29 November 2015 09: 34
        +4
        where does the classification of cards and the absence of the letter E on them?
        or do you think Stalin didn’t show the cards because of their secrecy?
      2. your1970
        your1970 29 November 2015 13: 44
        +2
        But nothing that the German maps, as the veterans say, were more accurate than ours? And nothing that in the 20-30-beginning of 40 was a lot of things built, including in the European part of the USSR? And how many were renamed !!!! !! Apparently the Germans about "Paris Communes", "Rays of October", "Red Fighters" and so on in their titles - in 1913 they sensed fellow fellow fool
        According to the names, when compiling a map, from the local administration officially lists of settlements, rivers, mountains, etc. are obtained. This sometimes leads to funny things, for example we have a village of Lokhmаtovka (by cards) -but everything, including administration, consider her Lohmоby trade.
      3. Kombrig
        Kombrig 29 November 2015 22: 49
        0
        Quote: tanit
        And neither of which was that Soviet maps were classified, nor the fact that foreign cartographers weren’t allowed to enter. And not what, what are the German cards of the 1913 sample?


        I do not agree, I personally held the German map of 1942, compiled according to the data of 1938 ...
  16. UNAUTHORIZED
    UNAUTHORIZED 29 November 2015 07: 37
    +2
    How long the letter E has made its way, and How easily foreign and slang words now creep through. Fenya generally became generally accepted.
  17. UNAUTHORIZED
    UNAUTHORIZED 29 November 2015 07: 43
    +4
    When I registered, I wanted to first take the nickname "Yo Moo" - now it would be a day.
  18. 31R-US
    31R-US 29 November 2015 08: 00
    +1
    Eper Theater lol

  19. midshipman
    midshipman 29 November 2015 08: 04
    +1
    The name Artyom must be written with two dots above the letter E. But this letter is not on the keyboard. Why? explain somebody to me. I have the honor.
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 29 November 2015 08: 13
      +7
      I have - in the upper left corner, just below the esc icon
      1. Proud.
        Proud. 29 November 2015 08: 24
        +1
        Quote: Petrof
        I have - in the upper left corner, just below the esc icon

        Yes. Once there.
      2. midshipman
        midshipman 29 November 2015 08: 26
        +4
        Dear Julia, thank you. I have the honor.
    2. Anatole
      Anatole 29 November 2015 08: 16
      +6
      Yo-mayo, how is it not Yo? My older son’s name is Artyom, he said in the store that I won’t buy a laptop without Yo laughing
    3. Very old
      Very old 29 November 2015 08: 22
      +1
      Yuri Grigoryevich, I sympathize with you - I’ll spill the bag with ё.ёёёёёёёёёёё .........
      I will not leave the forum member in trouble: ё-mine, without ё and you can’t send her to ё fellow
    4. EvgNik
      EvgNik 30 November 2015 06: 25
      +1
      Quote: midshipman
      But on the keyboard this letter is not. Why? explain somebody to me.

      Maybe it is not on all the keys? When buying, you need to look. I have both on a computer and on a laptop.
  20. Evver
    Evver 29 November 2015 08: 12
    +3
    Yo is a cool letter! I repent when I write by hand - I do not always put dots, but I try to print with it! Hedgehog ... herringbone ... honey agarics ... kitten ... dog ... cows ... how many wonderful words!
  21. Svetovod
    Svetovod 29 November 2015 08: 22
    +2
    The letter is cool at least because it is always under stress (if what)
    Happy yo.
  22. ivanovbg
    ivanovbg 29 November 2015 08: 30
    +1
    Finger-sticks, the USSR remembered the letter “ë” at the very height of the battle of Stalingrad. Patriotism is always remembered in difficult moments, but we must always remember.
  23. Cruel beaver
    Cruel beaver 29 November 2015 08: 32
    +1
    Yoshkin cat, yo-mine !!! smile
  24. Russian Patriot
    Russian Patriot 29 November 2015 08: 40
    +1
    Happy Birthday!!!
  25. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 29 November 2015 08: 47
    0
    Once, one of the members of the forum recalled that we should not forget about this letter. I began to carefully print it. The tablet liked it and he began to turn all the letters E into E. What set the additional work.
    Well, if it's a birthday - it should be celebrated! Happy holiday, dear letter Y!
  26. DMB3000
    DMB3000 29 November 2015 08: 53
    +1
    Quote: EvgNik
    I can not imagine the Russian language without this letter. Yo ... how much can be expressed!

    Yomayo
  27. Darkness
    Darkness 29 November 2015 09: 00
    0
    And immediately drank for it!
  28. Grim Reaper
    Grim Reaper 29 November 2015 09: 05
    +4
    Thank you for the article. Though no side to VO, but the simplification and degeneration of the Russian language is a very serious topic.
  29. Bayonet
    Bayonet 29 November 2015 09: 11
    +3
    And here are two more on Yo smile
  30. Million
    Million 29 November 2015 09: 12
    +1
    Now, God forbid, they will write E instead of E in the documents, or vice versa, you will be tormented later!
  31. Dezinto
    Dezinto 29 November 2015 09: 14
    +5
    I always write with her.! smile
  32. Captain45
    Captain45 29 November 2015 09: 41
    0
    Letter Ё is very important for a Russian person, well, try to say the phrase "Move away, otherwise ... I'll hit you!" No letter Ё all expressiveness and clarity of expression are immediately lost laughing And also brevity, which is very important in battle, well, for example: "I order to strike at the enemy in square A352" or "Yes ... hit the mound!"
  33. Turkir
    Turkir 29 November 2015 09: 43
    +3
    In an interesting article, a wonderful portrait of Dashkova.
  34. Million
    Million 29 November 2015 09: 44
    +4
    Fursenko did a lot of nasty things for Russia!
  35. guzik007
    guzik007 29 November 2015 09: 56
    +2
    Fursenko did a lot of nasty things for Russia!
    ----------------------------------------------
    Ltd! this is just the beginning. See what they are offering right now in education ...
  36. Panikovsky
    Panikovsky 29 November 2015 09: 56
    +3
    Karamzin invented only the letter Y, and the letters X, P and F were invented by Cyril and Methodius.
    Venedikt Erofeev. yes
    1. Rivares
      Rivares 29 November 2015 18: 52
      +2
      Cyril and Methodius did not come up with anything. They from the Old Russian alphabet took those letters that they understood and created Church Slavonic.
  37. rotor
    rotor 29 November 2015 09: 59
    +2
    If there is a letter for yu - yu, for ya - i, then there must be a letter for yo - yo, respectively.

    But in theory, the letter for yO should be in the German manner - Ö, and not in French -..
  38. Roy
    Roy 29 November 2015 10: 05
    +4
    Ignoring "Yo" when pronouncing many surnames, replacing Y "with" E ", constantly leads to distortion of many surnames, especially when reading them. You come across this at every step. This is especially typical for the army, offices and offices. Example: surname Shepelev, almost always pronounced like Shepelev. So it is with other similar surnames. Therefore, it is always necessary, in all cases, especially on surnames, to put the letter "E." But this is still not done. That's the thing.
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 29 November 2015 11: 44
      0
      Well, they pronounced the surname "Shepelev" in a wrong way .. Then what, what is the tragedy? If citizen Shepelev is standing side by side, he will correct (probably already got used to for so many years), if not, then there is no one to be offended. And in surnames, the problem may be not only in the letter. In mine, for example, the letter E is not. But it is often distorted by incorrectly pronouncing the STRIKE. Following your logic, will it obligatory require the affixing of HIT?
      1. your1970
        your1970 29 November 2015 13: 49
        +1
        try to prove if you have "Yo" - and your children do not have in the documents that they are your children !!! from the letters one Yoi will remain ...
  39. rotor
    rotor 29 November 2015 10: 12
    +3
    I propose to fine for replacing the letter E with E in the media. They got it already, too lazy to reach for the letter ё on the clave.
  40. atos_kin
    atos_kin 29 November 2015 10: 31
    +1
    When creating Durkaines, the first thing they killed was Y. So they suffer without it!
  41. Gunther
    Gunther 29 November 2015 10: 32
    +4
    Thanks so much for the article.
    Language is the basis of national identity, which is why they strike a blow at the Russian language, for example, in the middle of the 19th century, the Austrian authorities tried to introduce the Latin alphabet in Carpathian Rus, they broke off, but the Polish-Austrian lackeys ("Ukrainophiles") managed to introduce a phonetic spelling (i.e. . write as you hear) and change the spelling, approximately the same picture we see in the Ukraine captured by the junta.
    In 1904, the Kodla Russophobes created a "spelling commission" at the Academy of Sciences whose purpose was to destroy the etymology of the Russian language (that is, it was useless, it has become useless, countless, countless), to change the meaning. Commission member
    Baudouin de Courtenay tried to push through his rotten "phonemic theory" (substitution, mouse, sidish, night, cove, chevo, etc. delirium).
    What failed in 1904 happened after the coup of 1917, May 11, our language was pretty disfigured.
    Anyone who thinks that this article has no place in VO, in my opinion, is deeply mistaken.
    1. rotor
      rotor 29 November 2015 10: 49
      -2
      managed to introduce phonetic spelling (i.e. write as you hear)


      But it should be so, as it is heard, it should be written - this principle of spelling construction is called phonetic.
      1. Rivares
        Rivares 29 November 2015 18: 56
        +2
        "as it is heard and written" is a very popular statement in the zones.
        Quote: rotor
        But it should be so, as it is heard, it should be written - this principle of spelling construction is called phonetic.

        But what about the imagery of the language? Remove as unnecessary?
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  42. kabnb
    kabnb 29 November 2015 11: 04
    +2
    "I would immediately cut off intercourse with you,
    and before you part forever,
    I wouldn’t get very much
    who is this dear man for you. "(Griboyedov)
  43. tolancop
    tolancop 29 November 2015 11: 37
    +1
    Is there such a letter in the Russian alphabet? There is! Remove it? No. She does not bother anyone. But I do not agree with the obligatory use. In books for children, grades up to the 3rd, it is imperative to use it to "put" the correct reading. And then it's not worth it.
    Hundreds of millions of TENS of people cost excellently and problems somehow did not arise. And now they raised a storm in a glass of water, as if there were no other problems. Or just because they raised that a lot of problems? ...

    Guardians for the purity of the Russian language. Can you take care of the other side of the problem? Children and not only children need to READ more. And read GOOD literature, not trash. I was lucky in my life, as a child I somehow immediately fell in love with reading and read a lot. In addition to my general outlook, I got a side effect - I wrote correctly, although I hardly learned the rules of grammar. Just a wrong comma, a clumsy phrase, etc. "cut" the eye.
    You need to read more, and there will be no problems with E. The truth of what worked well in the "early" days can now have the opposite effect. You read modern TEXTS (you are not drawn to literature) and you want to hang the editor (or proofreader) for a causal place.
  44. klev72
    klev72 29 November 2015 11: 41
    +1
    I read a fairy tale to my son, there the hero is written as I read Tereshechka, and my wife says read Tereshechka, she knows a fairy tale from childhood. Feel the difference. Without E, the meaning is lost and it is not possible to read the text correctly with unfamiliar words.
  45. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 29 November 2015 11: 48
    +1
    An old joke with the letter E: One seasoned boatswain from the Navy was invited to school with children to tell how he served and walked. Only the swindler he was scary. He was told the children would say. You want to swear, you say. It began- Yo ... We went Yo ... once. Weather Yo ... goes bad Yo ... Our Yo ... dish Yo ... chatting Yo ... and so and so Yo ... Absolutely Yo ... storm Yo ... Us like Yo ... wave against the rocks how yo ... will!
  46. Bort radist
    Bort radist 29 November 2015 14: 46
    +1
    I'm not Yoo, but it's my birthday today too. repeat And I already drinks laughing
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 29 November 2015 16: 19
      +3
      Quote: Bort Radist
      I'm not Yoo, but it's my birthday today too.

      Be healthy boyar! drinks
      1. Bort radist
        Bort radist 29 November 2015 18: 13
        +2
        Quote: Bayonet
        Be healthy boyar!

        We will!
  47. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 29 November 2015 14: 49
    0
    People's Commissar of Enlightenment of the RSFSR V.Potemkin

    No wonder the man got down to business. I can imagine how he got fed up that his surname is not spelled correctly - "Dear V, what is it in your surname for such a strange letter? - Yo ... yours ..., write my surname correctly!".)
  48. Atigay
    Atigay 29 November 2015 16: 16
    -7
    By the way, most Russian-speakers think that the Russian language is millennia. In fact, his birth occurred in the 18th century, largely thanks to Karamzin, who took many rules from the Germans and Swedes. That is, just a little over two hundred years. However, thanks to the literary geniuses of the Russian language, it has become simply magnificent. For example, compare with a related Czech, where there were not many prominent writers. Many Czech adjectives have 4-5 meanings in Russian.
    By the way, the 20th century gave birth to the Uzbek, thanks to Academician Bartold, who in 1920 proposed making the Andijan dialect of the Uzbek language (almost Tajik) the state. Before that, the Uzbeks spoke the same language with the Kazakhs.
    Hebrew is also a work of the 20th century, before that it was like Latin.
    By the way, the Cossacks spoke the Turkic language before the 20th century, which is surprising, since it is generally forgotten. My friend was in the village of Vyoshinsky, the birthplace of Sholokhov. He was struck by a huge number of Turkic words in the spoken language.
    The true historical native Russian language is the language of the Lay of Igor's Host. Read it and scratch your head.
    1. Rivares
      Rivares 29 November 2015 19: 05
      0
      Quote: Atygay
      By the way, most Russian-speakers think that the Russian language is millennia. In fact, his birth took place in the 18th century, thanks in large part to Karamzin,

      Those. Ivan the Terrible had books in Latin and the annals were written in an incomprehensible language ???
      Quote: Atygay
      Hebrew is also a work of the 20th century, before that it was like Latin.

      Do you know Vayshen Koidysh? The Torah is written on it (and the Bible is written off and translated from it)
      Quote: Atygay
      By the way, the Cossacks spoke the Turkic language before the 20th century, which is surprising, since it is generally forgotten.

      Forgotten as a wretched Turkish fiction. By the way, you probably have not heard anything about glagolic texts.
      1. but still
        but still 30 November 2015 15: 21
        0
        Quote: Rivares
        Those. Ivan the Terrible had books in Latin and the annals were written in an incomprehensible language ???


        Exactly! Books at the baptism of Rus were brought from Bulgaria (Danube smile ) in Old Bulgarian. Princess Olga is a Bulgarian from Pliska, with her was the Bulgarian patriarch Grigory, the housekeeper of Olga Malka - the mother of Svyatoslav - the Bulgarians. Vladimir the Baptist, it turns out, 75% of the Bulgarians. The first church books in Russia were in Old Bulgarian. Later, when Bulgaria was captured by the Ottomans, many Bulgarian priests moved to Russia, taking with them liturgical books in Old Bulgarian. The most famous of them are Cyprian and Gregory Tsamblak.
        When the Principality of Moscow appeared, the creation of the doctrine of Moscow-the third Rome resulted in Nikon's reforms - that's when the centuries-old confrontation between the Old Believers and the authorities began. Then, and began the massive "correction" of liturgical books.
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    3. Turkir
      Turkir 29 November 2015 20: 15
      +1
      "The Word about Igor's Regiment" was written no later than 1180.
      After reading one of Sulemenov's book "Az and Ya", you immediately became a great expert in linguistics.
      In fact, his birth occurred in the 18th century, largely thanks to Karamzin, who took many rules from the Germans and Swedes.

      Thanks to such an incredible discovery, you should get into the hall of fame and receive many international awards in linguistics.
      Hebrew is also a work of the 20th century, before that it was like Latin.

      This is the second brilliant discovery that you carefully concealed from us. But in vain.
      The prize is waiting for you, right on the border of Israel. Perhaps you will be taken to Jerusalem.
      ----------
      If you throw something into an empty jug, he strumming.
    4. saygon66
      saygon66 30 November 2015 03: 07
      0
      -The dialect spoken in Andijan region is considered more correct and beautiful by the Uzbeks themselves ... Khorezm, or Tashkent, they say, they say more rudely, or something ... smile
    5. Vlas Urban
      Vlas Urban 30 November 2015 17: 52
      0
      "By the way, most Russian-speaking people think that the Russian language is millennium. In fact, its birth took place in the 18th century, largely thanks to Karamzin, who took many of the rules from the Germans and Swedes."

      Any Language changes over time. Take Russian chronicles and read them - they are perfectly readable by those who speak Russian. Here is the Belarusian "stillborn" in the early 19th century. Before that, they wrote and spoke exactly in Ruskom (Ruthenian).
      Historically, Russian is the language of "Zadonshchina", and not "A Word about Palku Ingorev". Modern Russian is mainly the merit of the genius of Pushkin.
  49. saygon66
    saygon66 29 November 2015 17: 30
    +1
    - Let's put all the points over Yo!
  50. afrikanez
    afrikanez 29 November 2015 17: 34
    0
    Oh my, how to forget about her laughing She is now in almost every language! good