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"I am a helicopter pilot." Part one

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"I am a helicopter pilot." Part one



Interview with an Army Pilot aviationhaving experience flying Mi-8, Mi-24, Mi-35M and Mi-28N helicopters.

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- What prompted you to choose the flight profession?

- I was born in a military family, father - helicopter pilot. I lived all my life in military camps, always with the guys ran to look at the cars, on the flights. He was interested in various aircraft. Therefore, it was a dream from childhood to become a helicopter pilot. Immediately after school, I went to flight school, where I studied the next 5 years.

- What type of helicopters did you learn at school?

- In the school all master the basic types. We started with the Mi-8, then the Mi-24: that is, a year - on the Mi-8T, two years - on the Mi-24. But, for example, in parallel with us, one group began to fly on the Mi-2, and then on the Mi-8T. Someone flew all three years only on the Mi-8 and was produced on it. Now I know that the school on the "Ansat" fly, Ka-226 will soon begin to carry cadets.
And after the release, where and how you will get: they can serve on Mi-8, they can serve on 24-ku, on Mi-26, Kamov machines.

- That is, on what type of helicopter in the part assigned, on this fly and will you?

- Yes. I originally wanted on the Mi-24, and hit it. The unit sent an attitude to the school where it was indicated that they were taking me as a pilot-operator, so I already knew what position I was going to the troops.

- Is there any competition between parts for promising cadets?

- There is. Representatives of army aviation came to the school and on the same North Caucasian Military District they were trying to gain more children. Representatives of the Air Force MVD, FSB also came, as the training of pilots was conducted in their interests.

- Is it possible for a cadet to ask for himself in one or another part?

- Yes, you can. Go to the part, take the attitude there.

- You have been flying for many years, how many types of helicopters have you mastered at the moment?

- Mi-8Т, four modifications of the Mi-24, Mi-35М, Mi-28Н.

- A lot ...

- “Eight” has mastered in the school, in the same place began to fly the Mi-24. In parts I got into the combat squadron on "24-kah", I flew them initially. Then they began to re-equip our air base on the Mi-28H, Mi-35M, and we had to master them. The most difficult thing was to relearn the Mi-28H, the new helicopter had practically nothing in common with 24-koy, the helicopter had one control, only the helicopter commander, unlike the two on the Mi-24. If on Mi-24 it is possible to conduct control flights, where the instructor will tell something during the flight, in an emergency situation, he will take control on himself, then this cannot be done on 28-m. This is what caused the presence of different types of helicopters in the troops: as long as there is no training Mi-28UB, we will learn to fly Mi-24, Mi-35М.



Mi-8

- Blog readers asked a lot of questions on certain types of technology. If you do not mind, let's start with the Mi-8. How do you call this car?

- We have stuck to her name "borschevoz".

- Why not?

- Yes, I do not know, I came to the part, they called it already. Humor is so peculiar. Returning from the departure, they ask on the ground: “While flying, you didn’t spill anything?” - “What didn’t splash it out?” - “Yes, carry some soup with you.”

- How is aiming on the Mi-8 when firing NAR (uncontrolled aircraft missiles - approx.)? With overhead cannons?

- The commander of the crew has an ordinary collimator sight: the aiming mark, on it thousandths, degrees and according to the table of aiming data from the height, from the distance it is determined by what angle to make an amendment. With gun containers all the same. Roughly speaking, aiming goes to the eye.

- Is it possible to evaluate the effectiveness of a PC as an onboard armament of the Mi-8 for use through a doorway? Through the ramp with the shutters removed?

- A machine gun set, they consider it effective. Crew commanders themselves suggest that they be put on if they are flying from a VSPShG (air search-assault group - note) or special forces groups for any tasks. On the ramp also put on new cars.

- Is the door on the starboard side necessary on the "8-ke"?

- Yes of course. The winch on the starboard side is now more heavy-duty, up to 300 kg, so it's easier to evacuate people. At one time, more paratroopers can pick up, load / unload anything.




Mi-24

- The same question as for the Mi-8: how do you call the Mi-24 between you?

- We have pilots of this helicopter called "drums." Sometimes this nickname is transferred to the car itself.

- A question that worries many: why is Mi-24P chosen for Syria?

- I can only express my assumptions here. The helicopter is reliable and proven not by one war, it is easier to operate. It does not have sophisticated equipment, the same GOES, for example, therefore it is less repair-intensive. But I do not exclude that in the future in Syria may appear newer types of helicopters.
Yes, as another possible option “for”: you can do bombing from “24-ki”. Mi-35M and Mi-28H are deprived of this opportunity.

- How effective is the bombing from this helicopter?

- I think that the efficiency is low. For bombing, it is necessary to withstand flight parameters: there must be a constant speed, a constant altitude on the combat course in order to at least approximately hit the target or the target area. There is no automation, like on airplanes, you have to count everything in your head, which gives a greater error than machine calculation. While you are flying with a constant course and at the same speed, then, roughly speaking, only a lazy person will not knock off a slingshot.

- How is aiming performed during bombing?

- Depending on the type of bomb is determined by the height from which to throw it. Parameters are the height of the discharge, the speed of the discharge, according to the table there are target data, the angle of sight is set on the PKI sight. When you throw training bombs on 50-70 kg, from a height of 200 m, you can reset when the crosshair covers the target on this corner. If the flight altitude is greater, then you set the angle of sight of the target; when you pass it through the crosshair, you make a time cut-off and reset by a delay. The drift angle and wind direction are also taken into account. But the more height, the less accuracy.

- Did you have to deal with bombing in combat?

- For educational purposes only. Once or twice a year, while we still had Mi-24. We flew with training bombs on 50-70 kg, once “weavers” were thrown.

- In Chechnya, throwing bombs?

- I have not had the opportunity, from colleagues and veterans of the unit also did not hear this, but I can’t rule it out.

- At the forum of helicopter pilots one of the users suggested that the choice of Mi-24П for Syria is due to the fact that it has 6 suspension points against 4 on new machines.

- As the practice of the same Chechnya showed, the helicopter rarely flew with 4 units of the NAR, because it is very hard. Especially if you take into account the hot Syrian climate, which is even more problematic for a helicopter. The use of all points of the suspension greatly reduces the maximum take-off weight, impairs the flight characteristics. And to quickly reduce take-off weight is only possible in one way: to refuel. But the lack of refueling will reduce the range of the helicopter.
For example, during the two campaigns in Chechnya, during the Five-Day War, the standard load was as follows: the NAR unit’s 2, guided missiles. But depending on the task and the conditions of the flight and on the 4 block it happened hung up.

- If it so happens that the evacuation of the crew of the aircraft, shot down in the depth of enemy territory, at a great distance from our airbase, would be a Mi-24 suspension like this: 2 suspended fuel tanks (XB), 2 missile-guided missile units?

“Maybe, but only as a cover for the Mi-8, which will be directly involved in evacuation.” Conditions are different, so you may have to evacuate with the help of the winch "8-ki", which is not on the Mi-24. Quickly pick up people, when on the way back they saw that you can sit down, or received a task directly in the air, of course, you can on the Mi-24.

- The videos from Syria show that our helicopters are attacking at low altitudes, almost near the ground. How dangerous are large-caliber machine guns of the enemy with such tactics, and the usual small weapon?

- We have a saying: “If you fly below, you live longer”. It is necessary to minimize the time spent by the car in the enemy's sight, for this purpose they fly at low altitudes. The lower you fly, the more options to slip and hide behind the terrain, behind artificial obstacles, behind the same trees. A small flight altitude provides a stealth approach to the goal, and this is the key to successful assignment. And even more there, as I understand it, it is still not known whether the militants have MANPADS or not. Judging by the personnel and the manner of piloting, no one wants to check this on their own skin, therefore they fly with a “pre-emption”, taking into account the worst flight conditions.
Yes, at the bottom, too, you can grab a stray bullet and even catch one bullet, the engine can fail, but the chances of such an outcome are much less.

- ATGM dangerous during such a flight?

- There is still need to get. If the helicopter is static, or flies “like at home,” then there is a possibility. “Launcher” (installation operator - approx.) Should be good.

- Syrian militants recently published a video with some kind of flying bombs based on condoms ...

- It seems to be funny, but I would not wish to meet anyone. This is still a bomb, if it explodes, then there will be little fun.

- The war in Ukraine worries readers, no less than the Syrian events, so the next question will be about the fighting in the Donbas. Why are there so often shot down Mi-24? Pilot errors or limitations of the machines themselves on the application?

- It is difficult to say, it is necessary to consider each case separately, to know the reasons for certain actions of the pilots.

- I was once described a case of the destruction of a Mi-24P helicopter near Lugansk. They say that the Ukrainian pilots passed over the positions of the enemy, turned around, and supposedly lay down on the combat course. We went to the forehead. They were fired at from automatic cannons of armored vehicles, small arms. The helicopters, without attacking, turned aside and went along the positions at a distance. As a result of the launch of the missiles, one was shot down. What can be said about their actions?

- One can be seen from the ground, another from the air. Similarly, I will not say again, little information, but if everything was like this, then we can assume the following. Maybe they did not have enough intelligence on the area, and the pilots could not understand that it was not their troops. And only after they opened fire on them, did they realize this. The effect of surprise has already been lost. Further. It is necessary to know in advance the location of the target, to calculate in advance the way how to approach it in order to strike at the first approach. The second approach can be done if the first one went well, when you created a panic, created an effect of surprise, and demoralized the enemy when the enemy just runs away and hides. Engaged in order of battle, the so-called "carousel", to prevent even the possibility to stick his head out of the trenches, and work one by one until you "unload" all the ammunition. But when they began to specifically snarl at you, when you had already profiled the first opportunity, when you didn’t have time to give even from a gun to frighten ...
And they could leave along positions, because they did not expect the enemy to have serious air defense weapons and wanted to reconnoiter the situation. It was thought, maybe, that the shooter is, well, maximum, the BMP / BTR gun / machine gun, so they went the distance, reducing the likelihood of defeat. In general, most likely, they acted recklessly. If the first time did not work out, then it was necessary either to go completely deeper into its territory, or to transfer targets to the airmen, so that they could process them from a height. Or leave, hide, and then try to go from an unexpected angle, on the other hand, and attack.



Mi-35M

- Traditionally: does the car have a nickname?

- No special, the same “drum”.

- Is the difference between the Mi-24 and the Mi-35M great?

- In terms of design, yes. We say: "crossed the hedgehog with a snake, got the wire." Because in this car the part from "28 th" is taken, the part from "24-ki" remained. What kind of Frankenstein.
According to my feelings, it is less stable in flight. If the Mi-24 flies like an iron, and you don’t need to touch it, this one constantly wants to tilt, make a pitch, as if trying to leave somewhere. He must constantly be kept, to interfere in management more often. On complex aerobatics, this is my personal opinion, it is more pleasant to fly on the "24-ke." Again, the Berkuts abandoned group flights on 35's in favor of 28's.

- Worse resistance due to the fact that he has smaller wings?

- All factors are combined: the fact that the wings are slightly trimmed, and the fact that the carrier system is different. Still, the airframe and the entire aerodynamics of the helicopter were designed for a different carrier system and power plant initially.

- Has the speed dropped because of the non-retractable landing gear?

- Fell. Now the maximum speed of his 300 km / h, while the Mi-24 335 km / h was. In horizontal flight, this is not so noticeable, because they fly there at a speed of 200-250 km / h, and the maximum is needed for output from a dive. The greater the range of the speed of the withdrawal from the dive, the longer you can keep the target in sight, carry out shooting, and later bring the car out of the dive.
I would not say that all these flaws are somehow clearly felt, but all together they make themselves felt.

- Workmanship and reliability of the Mi-35M compared to the Mi-24?

- Almost everything is the same. More with electronics problems. With the same sighting systems. The thing is good, the machine counts well: it’s enough to click a laser rangefinder once, and then it puts out the aiming angles itself and aim and fire enough aiming marks, and the missiles go to the target. But these mechanisms are complex, require more careful maintenance. Not to say that a less reliable system, but something is not really.

- If during the shooting fails automatics?

- There are two shooting modes: automatic and manual. If the automatic fire fails, then it's okay, you can manually calculate, in the old manner.

- Is it more difficult to count manually?

- When preparing for the flight, you enter the aiming data into the sight, it is enough to set the aiming angle depending on the ammunition used. In the knee plates, this whole table of aiming is there, but with experience you remember the numbers, and they already have everything in my head. And depending on the range and speed, you already know how to impose a mark on the reticle to see where everything goes. Experienced pilots, for example, told that in combat conditions they let a couple of NARs, watched where they went - aha, almost there - corrected, switched to a long line and went to hit the target. All this already on automatism in the head scrolls, how and what to do.

- Mi-35M paired with Mi-24 feels good?

- Absolutely. We on the Mi-35M and with the Mi-28H in a pair of flew normally. From the side it only looks awkwardly, for the “28” the pitch during the flight is positive, for the “35” it is negative. Simply put, one flies up with his nose up, the other with his head down.

- Is it possible to say that Mi-35М is a “flying desk” for retraining from old helicopters to new ones?

- In terms of control, I would not say that the Mi-35M is a flying desk for retraining for new cars. Yes, and in terms of new systems, the same MFI, would not say so. The very principle of indicating parameters and input information on the Mi-35M and Mi-28H is somewhat different. At 35, all this information is for informational purposes only; it is not as integrated as at 28.

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  1. venaya
    venaya 28 November 2015 14: 02
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    Helicopter pilots have their own special flight technique, it is better if you study this technique from childhood, then there will be less problems in difficult flight conditions. I understand that this pilot has a very high flight qualification for helicopter flights.
    1. Tor5
      Tor5 28 November 2015 15: 28
      10
      It is very curious, specifically and ... it is felt that the pilot is experienced and knowledgeable.
      1. jPilot
        jPilot 28 November 2015 20: 52
        24
        Well, judging by the interviews, the pilot is not very experienced either, who graduated from college not so long ago and most likely with honors. Most likely, he is still an operator, it is possible that they began to "carry" from the commander's "cup", and therefore complains that the operator does not have the ability to fly on the new equipment. Well, as they say, experience is a profitable business, we all once started with pilot-navigators.
        And the article is well written and accessible, for non-specialists I think it is very informative. There are some aspects that can be argued with, especially when flying on PMV (low-altitude flight), but these are the nuances of specialists. I can add one thing, the closer to the ground the calmer you feel. You can't even imagine what kind of 12 tons drive it is at an altitude of 3-10 meters at a speed of 230 km / h with a full ammunition load (ammunition), the back is covered in soap (because this is a "hard" job) but this is KAYF !!! Once I took a ride on PMV, com. a fighter regiment with all our "stuff" wink after which he said: "We (the fighters) knew that you (the helicopter pilots) are fucking ... s, but what are THIS !!!!" (in a good way, of course) and then rolled out a box of "horse meat" drinks
        And most of all it is a pity that we do not develop the design and production of light helicopters, our country has always thought and said with our territories should be the most flying one, then the Far East will develop and the rest of our homeland. In the meantime, we study and fly only on foreign cars, for which "fucking" grandmothers tear for any "zapchestyushka".
        1. not main
          not main 28 November 2015 23: 40
          +2
          Quote: jPilot
          jPilot (2) RU

          I wanted to answer, but you said EVERYTHING!
        2. Letun
          Letun 29 November 2015 18: 51
          +3
          Quote: jPilot
          Well, judging by the interview, the pilot is not very experienced, he graduated from the college not so long ago and most likely with honors

          He is a participant in the Chechen wars. 2 years have passed since the end of the 15nd, after the first there are generally more than 20, so I'm sorry, your analytics somehow does not fit with what the person is talking about. I don’t want to offend anyone.
    2. family tree
      family tree 28 November 2015 21: 45
      +4
      Quote: venaya
      it’s better if you study this technique from childhood,
      belay
      No, not a helicopter pilot, they say that a helicopter, this is a solid resistance to flight what , drank vodka with them, with border guards, and there, for conversations. It’s impossible to land the Mi-24 in the mountains, the heavy one will not fly up later, therefore, the best pilots will be on the Mi-8, and let this one graze the surroundings. Machine guns, a large grain on the left (as I understand it, it’s more convenient to commander what ), on the right is PC, PKM, on the 8th, but that's all, already in Chechnya.
      Yes, I heard the story that during the Vietnam War, in the states, cops caught street racers, and in six months they trained those Iroquois pilots who pulled the infantry out of their ass request
      1. jPilot
        jPilot 28 November 2015 22: 22
        +6
        The Mi-24 in the mountains is not "ice", as young people say. It was like this, accompanied by a pair of Mi-24s, we row over the pass, not reaching 300 m 24-ki: "we cannot pull further without us." And we have a commander on board ... testicles in a fist and behind the pass a handle away from you, as close as possible to the rock and accelerate as quickly as possible. This is how she is 24, on the plain they are certainly great, and in the low mountains. But for the highlands, the Mi-8 is the most, even the Americans recognize and respect this machine. Recently retrained in the USA on the R-66, the chief pilot of Robinson asked what he had flown before, having learned that the commander of the Mi-8 tingled his thumb and said a very good car.
        1. family tree
          family tree 28 November 2015 22: 53
          +3
          Quote: jPilot
          The Mi-24 in the mountains is not "ice", as young people say.

          Did you fly to Kamovskys? Infa is not enough, but I read that in Chechnya during the tests, during the shelling, the 50s, in the same mountains, they quickly teleported higher what
          1. jPilot
            jPilot 28 November 2015 22: 57
            +5
            These are the advantages of the pine scheme, but they also have their pitfalls. In general, all the cars are good and everyone has their own tasks. I love them.
            1. family tree
              family tree 28 November 2015 23: 45
              0
              Quote: jPilot
              These are the advantages of the pine scheme, but they also have their pitfalls.

              Well, at the expense of overlap I know, that is, others? Since the Papuans are fighting, which is better, or are we getting ready for the big one? So consumables will be there, both on land and in the air, and for me, too, it’s better to book one, and give out information from the command Ka-52, let them be twice as many as two, in a carriage, with more weak protection.
              If you remember, so I and at the expense of Armat swore that they say the pros will ride them. Nah materiel, fly teach and school of survival, turntable, on the go, repair belay it’s magic, not otherwise, otherwise in Chechnya, a pilot comes home from a shot down, luck, cho, and for Ksenia, it’s impossible to turn the shutter. Ksenia !!! WITH HIS GAPES !!! Damn, rusted, cho request what
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 28 November 2015 23: 36
          +3
          Quote: jPilot
          But for the highlands of the Mi-8 the very thing is, even the Americans recognize and respect this car

          We called the Mi-8 "sparrows". The flyers said that from the name of the first commander of their unit. I don't know, that's what we called both the flyers and the cars. About this car - Mi-8 and the flyers that rolled us on it - only in superlatives. A car is unpretentious than an ass and flyers fly where not every crow will crawl.
          1. evil partisan
            evil partisan 29 November 2015 00: 34
            +2
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            flyers fly where not every crow will crawl.
            Flying in the fog last year. As they were not afraid to take off - I can’t imagine ...
            1. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch 29 November 2015 01: 44
              +7
              Quote: Angry Guerrilla
              Flying in the fog last year. As they were not afraid to take off - I can’t imagine ...


              The case was in the High North in the late 70s. The local gas pipeline died, a breakthrough, and the city began to freeze, winter, "-" about fifty dollars, a killer haze. Hours 10-12, and the batteries in the houses will defrost. A pie was thrown from Moscow - decide for yourself. It was decided that the GXNUMX commander and the foreman of the repairmen took responsibility, flew, violating all instructions, found the cause and eliminated it. The risk was prohibitive, but it was necessary. All were awarded. In life, and so it happens, and if not flew? But my mother had no doubt that the men could, and she also checked the lessons. Therefore, they are invincible.
              1. dudinets
                dudinets 29 November 2015 17: 00
                +3
                is it not in Taimyr in 77?
                1. iliitchitch
                  iliitchitch 29 November 2015 18: 00
                  0
                  It is the most. It was .
            2. family tree
              family tree 29 November 2015 03: 12
              +2
              Quote: Angry Guerrilla
              As they were not afraid to take off - I can’t imagine ...

              After a liter of alcohol what An-2, in front of Vaskovo, the commander crawls out of the cockpit, in the cabin is the SSO brigade (this, not, Student Construction Team recourse ): "Guys, who knows how to steer? No? Damn, what are they teaching you at the institutes? Okay, again, yourself ..."
              Glory to Manitou, I was the previous one, on the An-24, but among the boys ... but with laughter, like, then, they were even proud that you offered to steer the plane, mechanics, cho laughing drinks
      2. iliitchitch
        iliitchitch 28 November 2015 22: 48
        +2
        Quote: perepilka
        Yes, I heard the story that during the Vietnam War, in the states, cops caught street racers, and in six months they trained those Iroquois pilots who pulled the infantry out of their ass


        This is not a bike, American jerks were planted on dragonflies, and they drove them, as in Harleys, it was, and our boys in schools have been preparing for years. If the life of a warrior is enumerated in man-kerosene, the Iroquois are optimal, and if they are systematically approached, then Mil and Kamov are the best.
        And further . Imagine a picture - a reconnaissance platoon ran into, there is a battle, there is little chance, who will help out? Iroquois or "eights"?
        1. family tree
          family tree 28 November 2015 23: 19
          +3
          Quote: iliitch
          Iroquois or "eights"?

          The question is wrong. A couple of percussionists with experienced ones, and there, "the Iroquois, with their" doors "and maneuverability, probably even more comfortable. Ask the specialists, Valera, I'm an amateur, a sapper, and an air defense officer, twice 3 months old, same Lord, from a specialist on paths and bridges, a guidance officer of the ZRK-125 to make what Your ways are inscrutable, Ministry of Defense of the USSR belay request
        2. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 28 November 2015 23: 42
          +8
          Quote: iliitch
          Imagine a picture - a platoon of intelligence ran into a battle, there is a battle, there are few chances, who will help out? Iroquois or "eights"?

          I won’t say anything for the Iroquois; they didn’t come after me laughing , but for the "eights" I know for sure - hope for them is in second place after AKMS (it is clear that the native AKMS is in the first!). And our flyers - I don't know how Harleys are there - and ours, as I wrote above, fly where crows don't bother ... The best car driven by the best pilots.
          1. iliitchitch
            iliitchitch 29 November 2015 00: 13
            +3
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            For the Iroquois I will not say, they did not come after me, but for the "eights" I know for sure - they hope for the second place after AKMS (it is clear that the native AKMS is in the first!). And our flyers - I don't know how Harleys are there - and ours, as I wrote above, fly where crows don't bother ... The best car, driven by the best pilots.


            I read a book about the war in Afghanistan (I don’t remember the name already), so there the co-pilot of the GXNUMX writes how the airborne squadron was pulled out of the gorge (!) At dusk (!). They took everyone, including the "two hundred". As he says: "the machine has forgiven us ...". The overload was tough, the commander said - or we'll die, or at home. And the second eight worked nearby. hi
            1. family tree
              family tree 29 November 2015 02: 56
              +3
              Quote: iliitch
              I read a book about the war in Afghanistan (I don’t remember the name already), so there

              According to Chechnya, the eight returned to the base, stabilizing shakes, stopped, in the bullet blades. They drove to the store, puffed with mounting foam, waited, cut, grinded, painted over. The stabilizer, only after a business trip, was changed at the base, yes, everyone will be silent, they were not, they were not, they did not serve in the tsarist, white and red army. And I didn't say that either soldier
              1. iliitchitch
                iliitchitch 29 November 2015 18: 18
                +1
                Quote: perepilka
                in the tsarist, white and red army did not serve. And I didn't say that either


                And no one heard ...
            2. Bruss
              Bruss 29 November 2015 19: 09
              0
              The book was called "Alive in Help"
          2. family tree
            family tree 29 November 2015 00: 23
            +3
            Quote: Zoldat_A
            and ours, as I wrote above, fly where the crows do not poke their heads ... The best car, driven by the best pilots.

            Yes, because the best, that five years, yes a plaque. They managed to pull you out, brother, but didn’t have time for someone, there weren’t enough pilots.
            Maybe, you say, garbage, you need quality, only, that was all, and more than once he shut up the Germans, at the expense of tanks, the question is simple, which is better, 30 34-k with a landing battalion on armor, or one "tiger" and four companies infantry, all other things being equal. So, like that. Skill is skill, and technique is technique, well, Alexander Vasilich did not have tanks, and there were no rifled fittings, but they would have, and this phrase would not have been, at the expense of a fool bullet. No, bayonet, it, of course, is not arguing here.
            Duc, about turntables, again, the Ka-50, one in armor, the rest of the weapons, by weight, Ka-52, reconnaissance and distribution, transport, but the same Mi-8. Mi-28, attack aircraft, Mi-24-attack aircraft, with an evacuation compartment, which is difficult to put, a maximum of the wounded, and that is conditional, and again Mi-8.
            At one time, when he was a cadet, dragging Major Anikeev, he pulled up, saying that the gallant American solders, even in secret, go together so that it would not be boring ... to die request .
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 29 November 2015 01: 29
              +5
              Quote: perepilka
              They managed to pull you out, brother, but didn’t have time for someone, there weren’t enough pilots.

              I heard that under Taburetkin 4 there was no year of admission to flight schools. Like, an overabundance of military pilots ... Really? Somehow I did not check. But if so, then for one it would have shot personally, not to mention the rest ...
              30 September 2010 at 16: 10 Russian Defense Minister Anatoly Serdyukov visited the Seltsy Training Center at the Ryazan Airborne School (now a branch of the Frunze Military Academy), Russian Line reports.

              On the trip, he was accompanied by the Deputy Minister of Defense for Construction and Accommodation, Mr. Novitsky. They arrived by helicopter, late for 3 hours from the scheduled visit time to 13: 00. Before leaving the helicopter, they examined the territory of the training center and the training ground of the school from the air.

              They were met by the head of the Ryazan School, Hero of Russia, the Guard Colonel Andrei Krasov and deputy. Colonel Igor Volkov, head of the school on the rear of the guard, as well as an officer of the military counterintelligence of the FSB of Russia. The Commander of the Airborne Forces, Hero of Russia, Lieutenant General Valery Shamanov was forbidden by the Minister of Defense to participate in a visit to the training center of the Airborne Forces School.

              The minister left the helicopter already “wound up” and immediately began to use obscene language against the head of the school. Anatoly Eduardovich repeatedly called the Hero of Russia "dolby ... m" (other words of profanity are inappropriate here, they also sounded). Trying to humiliate his subordinate pain, Mr. Serdyukov finally explained that the reason for his anger was the wooden church of Elijah the Prophet built on the territory of the training center.

              The construction of the landing church is carried out solely on the money of sponsors from among the veterans of the Airborne Forces and local residents, as well as funds from the Ryazan diocese, but the minister was not interested.

              The head of the school, the Minister of Defense of Russia did not listen, there was a mat. Anatoly Eduardovich shouted: “In the city you don’t live here, in the city you don’t die!” “Don’t give money to this airborne center! This school generally needs to be reduced. To remove this impudent colonel to the troops too! ”- the minister set tasks to his deputy for construction and construction.
              I will never forgive you! I’ll die - I’ll ask for a photo of Taburetkin, and finally spit ...
              1. family tree
                family tree 29 November 2015 01: 44
                +7
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                Like, an overabundance of military pilots ...

                Or lack of turntables
                90s joke
                Lieutenant, after school in part.
                Receives a personal, "PM", looks at him in surprise, and says: "So this is what you are, MiG-29 belay "
              2. family tree
                family tree 29 November 2015 02: 27
                +2
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                I will never forgive you! I’ll die - I’ll ask for a photo of Taburetkin, and finally spit ...

                Meaning? He is neither hot nor cold. Do you have children? So you have to live, you can’t upset children, the folder will die, whom do you follow? wink
                1. iliitchitch
                  iliitchitch 29 November 2015 03: 13
                  0
                  Quote: perepilka
                  Meaning? He is neither hot nor cold. Do you have children? So you have to live, you can’t upset children, the folder will die, whom do you follow?


                  This is when these adult children were equal to the old-timers? The rake race is a favorite pastime of every new generation. Yes, I’m even funny to watch them mow. One pepper, I know that I pay for a banquet. They shit like mammoths, and then your eyes are such that you feel like the last villain (what’S SO LITTLE?). And when you do not pay for their stupidity, enlightenment comes ... And people become ADULTS. Business something.
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                2. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 30 November 2015 13: 18
                  +1
                  Quote: perepilka
                  Meaning? He is neither hot nor cold. Do you have children? So you have to live, you can’t upset children, the folder will die, whom do you follow?

                  To spit at Taburetkin's photo before dying is not for him, I need it. And the children ... Grandchildren already. The eldest is 14 years old. Favorite films - "Officers" and "Hot Snow". He wants to be an officer, serve urgently, then go to Ryazan. And the two granddaughters are still crumbs, but I think they will grow up - they will bring cartridges if something happens ... laughing Everything is fine with my grandchildren, I’m calm for them ... drinks
              3. avia1991
                avia1991 29 November 2015 04: 42
                +1
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                I heard that under Taburetkin there were no 4 years of admission to flight schools. Like, an overabundance of military pilots ... Really? Somehow I did not check. But if so, then for one it would have shot personally, not to mention the rest ...

                Not only in flight - in aviation engineering, too, they cut it down harshly, and the schools themselves were gone: they closed them, collecting separate pieces under the roofs of the newly-made "academies"! Now this is called "optimization" .. fuck it!
              4. jPilot
                jPilot 29 November 2015 06: 09
                +1
                Truth. Because now in Syzran and a set of 500 cadets. But in the current situation, this is not enough. As practice shows, 50-60% comes to the release. The rest are eliminated.
                Well Serdyukov Serdyukov but other bureaucrats made a lot of efforts, for example, and probably one of the most basic is Kudrin, it was thanks to him that the military existed on a beggarly salary.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 29 November 2015 15: 53
                  0
                  Quote: jPilot
                  Because now in Syzran and a set of 500 cadets

                  Ours, or with foreign ones?
              5. valokordin
                valokordin 29 November 2015 08: 05
                +2
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                I will never forgive you! I’ll die - I’ll ask for a photo of Taburetkin, and finally spit ...

                Do not forget the one who put him on the ministry, whose orders he carried out, who awarded him the hero’s Gold Star, who granted amnesty to him, who again put him in the bread place.
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 30 November 2015 13: 22
                  +1
                  Quote: valokordin
                  who awarded him the Golden Star of the hero

                  Did I miss something?
              6. V.ic
                V.ic 29 November 2015 17: 07
                +2
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                I will never forgive you! I’ll die - I’ll ask for a photo of Taburetkin, and finally spit ...

                So sho vi speak! Through the lips of the LADY it was announced: sho vin buv "_effective manager". Only now Diman, in defining the quality of "manager" at the beginning of the designation of quality, missed the letter "D" for illiteracy.
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 30 November 2015 13: 28
                  +3
                  Quote: V.ic
                  So sho vi speak! Through the lips of the LADY it was announced: sho vin buv "_effective manager". Only now Diman, in defining the quality of "manager" at the beginning of the designation of quality, missed the letter "D" for illiteracy.

                  I remember hearing with my own ears how nano-President Medved said that he "had no complaints about Serdyukov's activities as Minister of Defense." Then, apparently, the navirhu realized that he blurted out something wrong. I tried to find a video with these words or at least a pruflink to a quote - it's useless, just like I didn't say ... We cleaned the Runet qualitatively ...

                  Preventing insinuations, I will make a reservation right away - there is order with hearing, there are no hallucinations, at that moment it was sober as never before. But I heard personally.
              7. iliitchitch
                iliitchitch 29 November 2015 18: 54
                +1
                I hope those years are over. But why is that bastard not SIT, and ??? And after all, he feels rather well, try accidentally tyrannizing the same Vasiliev on the road with a typewriter. The expansion of the lobovuha will close. Questions for the President begin to arise - Lena mines forgotten, or what? Let's not twitch, the situation in the world is not the same, we tolerate. There are more and more questions on domestic politics ...
            2. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch 29 November 2015 19: 21
              0
              Teachings of the SA in the South-East Military District ... They dug trenches along the perimeter, and in the dark they began to walk in self-propelled guns hard, so as not to fall ... But on the other hand - if there had been a war, they would have answered not childishly. Oh, how many young elders found the dives!
              WestEnets, but the right one was a man in life.
      3. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 28 November 2015 23: 30
        +4
        Quote: perepilka
        say helicopter, this is a solid resistance to flight

        I talked for a long time, about 20 years ago, with one uncle, he graduated from a military helicopter school and a civil aviation institute. Two higher specialized education. He worked as a technician at the airport. He also once said with vodka: "Head I understand why the helicopter flies, taught. heart I can't understand how it keeps in the air ... " laughing
        1. iliitchitch
          iliitchitch 29 November 2015 00: 52
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          I talked for a long time, 20 years ago, with one uncle, he graduated from a military helicopter school and a civil aviation institute. Two higher specialized education. He worked as a technician at the airport. He also once said with vodka: "With my head I understand why the helicopter flies, they taught me. With my heart I can't understand how it keeps in the air ..."


          This is our way, with two crusts as a technician ... And if Mikhailo Lomonosov did not break up? Would Putin not follow the path?

          Ah, the Russian road, seven bends a mile away.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 29 November 2015 01: 32
            +2
            Quote: iliitch
            This is our way, with a two-peel technician ... And if Mikhailo Lomonosov had not broken? Would Putin not follow the path?

            Ah, the Russian road, seven bends a mile away.

            Well, I wrote that it was 20 years ago, a year in 93. And abruptly, experts in the market were selling underpants ... Gaidarism ... Chubaysyatina ...
            1. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch 29 November 2015 02: 01
              +2
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              Well, I wrote that it was 20 years ago, a year in 93. And abruptly, experts in the market were selling underpants ... Gaidarism ... Chubaysyatina ...


              Colleague, those were terrible years. Movers' teams, cat. They did not take strong graduate students, only candidates of sciences from the "boxes" - is this normal ??? Burst my eyes - I saw.
          2. family tree
            family tree 29 November 2015 01: 35
            +1
            Quote: iliitch
            And if Mikhailo Lomonosov did not rush

            No, though he did land, he did something, he sang praises to Katya, buried Richtman, a mosaic about Poltava, scattered about, embrace the immense, blin, and Vinogradov, with porcelain, raised the economy more. Eh, Mikhailo Vasilich, I would be engaged in at least one chemistry, you see, and Dmitry Ivanitch, in a dream, would not have to invent his table, and Buonopartia would be hurricaneed with "Buratins" right on the border. Lyaksandra Sergiich Zasyadko, by that time, had a multiple launch rocket system, before the MLRS, was already ready.
            1. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch 29 November 2015 02: 43
              +1
              Quote: perepilka
              No, though he did land, he did something, he sang praises to Katya, buried Richtman, a mosaic about Poltava, scattered about, embrace the immense, blin, and Vinogradov, with porcelain, raised the economy more. Eh, Mikhailo Vasilich, I would be engaged in at least one chemistry, you see, and Dmitry Ivanitch, in a dream, would not have to invent his table, and Buonopartia would be hurricaneed with "Buratins" right on the border. Lyaksandra Sergiich Zasyadko, by that time, had a multiple launch rocket system, before the MLRS, was already ready.


              "That the Russian land can give birth to its own Platons and quick-witted Newtons." ... Have you seen such posters in the assembly hall of your school? I don’t remember when and how (to dig into scrap), but it was Lomonosov who discovered the atmosphere on Venus. All (!) Scientists of that time were waiting for the event, they looked into the "cunning eyes", and only Mikhail Vasilyevich interpreted the BLOOD around the planet. Kicking the past is not good. If there were nonsense (and they were) - we must admit them and move on. But what we didn't have was nasty things. We are not scoundrels, unlike some (I will not make a list, it hurts long).
      4. evil partisan
        evil partisan 29 November 2015 00: 13
        +1
        Quote: perepilka
        helicopter, this is a solid resistance to flight

        And don't say Colleague! I myself do not understand why a helicopter can fly, but "Kuzya" can swim sad .
        Hi, climber! drinks
        1. family tree
          family tree 29 November 2015 01: 59
          +1
          Quote: Angry Guerrilla
          Hi, climber!

          Everything, Yura, is not a climber already, according to the order of the Ministry of Labor of Russia dated March 28.03.2014, 155 No. 17.06.2015n, as amended on June 383, 25.11.2015, by order No. 2n, after successful passing the exams, November XNUMX, XNUMX, I am listed as a high-altitude man in B, XNUMXnd group.
          Vadim Viktorovich Vostrikov presented a book, Sasha (you saw) learns to go to him in the summer.
          Damn, head on me! Hello, boyar!
          (Once again, you will begin to check in an unobtrusive manner, I’ll come and clean the munch, cho, you think I don’t see what I called the climber for the second time what So the climber is, although not, with a zuik, belly, the klotik did not twirl, later, and then, in the passengers recourse ) drinks
    3. Juborg
      Juborg 29 November 2015 15: 14
      0
      Judging by the interview, the pilot is clearly not happy with what he is flying on.
  2. Imperial
    Imperial 28 November 2015 14: 07
    79
    Again with courage. Forgive me for the offtopic, but I wanted to show everyone at once. Thank you comrades! Presentation of the medal "For Strengthening the Combat Commonwealth"These are the ones who saved our pilots.
  3. aksakal
    aksakal 28 November 2015 14: 10
    +8
    Interesting article, informative
    1. lukke
      lukke 28 November 2015 14: 52
      +5
      That caused the presence of different types of helicopters in the troops: while there is no training Mi-28UB,
      and some should draw conclusions and correct the situation)
      used to be like twenty-four called crocodiles ??!
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 30 November 2015 00: 05
        0
        Quote: lukke
        used to be like twenty-four called crocodiles ??!

        Before, a lot of things were different.
        When I was studying, they did not call them anything other than "crocodiles"! Moreover, at the airfield the officers - all the "combatants", many of the combat units, and also called "crocodiles". Well, then a lot of things changed - and the country in the sky of which these turntables began to serve no longer .. and turntables could be called differently.
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  4. pts-m
    pts-m 28 November 2015 14: 18
    +3
    No wonder they say ... the more in the air, the more experience ... and you won’t drink the experience anymore.
  5. Chicot 1
    Chicot 1 28 November 2015 14: 18
    +8
    “I am a helicopter pilot”

    It sounds proud! ..

    The photo shows a "Syrian" turntable ...
    1. rudolff
      rudolff 28 November 2015 14: 36
      10
      Why are there no screen-exhaust devices? Or do they not expect the militants to be "stabbed in the back" with MANPADS?
      1. 73bor
        73bor 28 November 2015 16: 46
        +5
        From screens, cravings fall, they say!
      2. not main
        not main 28 November 2015 20: 07
        +5
        Quote: rudolff
        Why are there no screen-exhaust devices? Or do they not expect the militants to be "stabbed in the back" with MANPADS?

        Heat traps are much more efficient and do not affect engine traction!
        1. rudolff
          rudolff 28 November 2015 20: 28
          +5
          Heat traps end sooner or later, and EVU is always in place. I don’t know anything about reducing engine thrust, but in Afghanistan and Chechnya, these devices did not prevent the "crocodiles" from flying, including in high altitude conditions.
      3. gladcu2
        gladcu2 28 November 2015 21: 24
        +2
        Rudolf

        Most likely their effectiveness is low. And in a hot climate, less thrust and less resource.

        Heat traps are more reliable.
        1. rudolff
          rudolff 28 November 2015 22: 03
          +2
          Well, maybe you’re right, I don’t know. But for some reason it seems to me that after the first case of the use of MANPADS and EVUs, they instantly appear and the heat traps in batches begin to salute. And MANPADS will sooner or later. Not Americans with the Turks, so our yellow-black neighbors will help.
    2. ancient
      ancient 28 November 2015 20: 47
      +4
      The photo shows a "Syrian" turntable ...

      Basil, dear ... the Syrian Air Force has no D-shek ... but only the Mi-25 wink




      And in the photo .. this is ours ... in Syria



      Although .. just noticed that the "Syrian" in .. habits .. so, +! drinks
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 November 2015 14: 23
    16
    More to such articles. From professionals, not politically correct, but honest and experienced.
    1. cniza
      cniza 28 November 2015 15: 01
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      More to such articles. From professionals, not politically correct, but honest and experienced.



      It gives a good mood and positive. Thank you for the article .
    2. Fregate
      Fregate 28 November 2015 18: 02
      0
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      More to such articles.

      The title says "Part One". There will be more, because they didn't say anything about the 28th.
    3. ANTI.KORR.
      ANTI.KORR. 28 November 2015 18: 33
      +5
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      More to such articles. From professionals, not politically correct, but honest and experienced.

      I agree, the work of pilots should be more often covered and popularized.
      1. skifd
        skifd 28 November 2015 20: 02
        +1
        Wonderful song yes . Vivat! good
  7. starshina pv
    starshina pv 28 November 2015 14: 29
    +3
    well done helicopter pilots, thank you very much, they rescued us more than once in Chechnya !!!
  8. tatarin_ru
    tatarin_ru 28 November 2015 14: 40
    +3
    Helicopters in combat conditions - this is its own combat technique, its own peculiarity - and it is always spectacular and effective.
    Moreover, it is not a safe profession, here, after all, the proverb "hard in learning - easy in battle" is relevant.
    1. ANTI.KORR.
      ANTI.KORR. 28 November 2015 18: 50
      +4
      Quote: tatarin_ru
      Helicopters in combat conditions - this is its own combat technique, its own peculiarity - and it is always spectacular and effective.

      Our Soviet helicopters are the best in the world!
      But without aces pilots, they do not fly.
      Glory to our pilots.

      But KAMOV



      EIGHT

      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 28 November 2015 23: 47
        +2
        Quote: ANTI.KORR.
        Our Soviet helicopters are the best in the world!
        But without aces pilots, they do not fly.
        Glory to our pilots.

        All three videos are good, but especially the last! good good good Such a flyer would talk with V. Chkalov - they would find what ... drinks
  9. da Vinci
    da Vinci 28 November 2015 14: 45
    +7
    A good, business article - without pathos, in essence.! good
    1. gladcu2
      gladcu2 28 November 2015 21: 26
      0
      D. Mokrushin has all the articles good.

      twowwer
  10. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 28 November 2015 14: 52
    +1
    The simulator could not land a helicopter. I don’t understand how they fly at them.
    1. soaring
      soaring 28 November 2015 15: 12
      +3
      This is very different from airplane piloting. It's hard to master after an airplane ...))
      1. ancient
        ancient 28 November 2015 20: 54
        +3
        Quote: soaring
        It's hard to master after an airplane ...


        It is mastered normally ... do not "thicken the colors" ... but "transplant" from the "whistle", and even from the "long car" to .. "screws" ... that's where the problem is recourse
        I consider only "system", not .. "special organizations" wink soldier
  11. aviator1913
    28 November 2015 15: 04
    20
    On Monday I'll post the remaining parts of the Helicopter. It is very informative to read this from those who actually control a modern combat vehicle.
    1. asar
      asar 28 November 2015 17: 29
      +3
      Thanks Eugene!
      Good article!
      How many "turntables" helped us out!
    2. samoletil18
      samoletil18 28 November 2015 18: 06
      +1
      Thanks in advance
  12. Platonich
    Platonich 28 November 2015 15: 07
    +3
    Thank you so much for the great article. More to such pilots !!!
  13. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 28 November 2015 15: 11
    +1
    So the 35-ku still needs to be improved a bit. It is only strange that there is as if there is no connection between the designers and the testers or those who operate, although representatives of the plant are always present during the tests.
    1. Sura
      Sura 28 November 2015 15: 52
      +3
      24-ku, all eight years of Aganan have been finalized, representatives of the design bureau lived there and 35-ku will finalize, they did not start to release it long ago.
  14. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 28 November 2015 15: 40
    +2
    Thanks for the article. In Syria, helicopter pilots risk an order of magnitude more plane pilots - and all the glory to the pilots.
    Because now the more articles about helicopter pilots the better.
  15. tinibar
    tinibar 28 November 2015 15: 56
    0
    Very interesting informative article, thanks! hi
  16. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 28 November 2015 16: 08
    +1
    good article! thank ! substantively and on business !!!! more such articles on IN!
  17. Avis24
    Avis24 28 November 2015 16: 42
    +5
    Looks like a guy from a neighboring fraternal regiment. Or maybe from mine. In general, there is nothing to complain about. Although from other districts they had to finish their studies. By the way, we had several people with fighter jets. All became the best. There is no lower level commander, believe me, the competition in this matter is much higher than in fighters. Although how much was retrained as a mat ...
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 28 November 2015 17: 13
      +1
      Vlad, why the American flag? A ticket to the Russian Armed Forces issued? smile
      1. Avis24
        Avis24 28 November 2015 22: 22
        +2
        I don’t understand what the joke is. Already two times he himself changed. And never ours was. Maybe due to the fact that from the opera mini was registered.
        1. rudolff
          rudolff 28 November 2015 22: 32
          +2
          It is because of the mini opera. If you go through the opera or through some proxy server, the checkbox is set at the location of this server. Hence this confusion. Do not pay attention to the flags.
  18. LEX SU
    LEX SU 28 November 2015 16: 50
    +3
    Thank you for the article
  19. Prisoner
    Prisoner 28 November 2015 17: 14
    +5
    I respect helicopter pilots. Moreover, the youngest first class has this specialization. On the Mi-24, I drummed on all the hot spots. And how we were pulled by the turntables, in general, a special conversation. Guardian Angels no more, no less!
  20. Mavric
    Mavric 28 November 2015 17: 30
    0
    "President C" don't bet on them? "Linden"? (jamming station ..)
  21. Anatole Klim
    Anatole Klim 28 November 2015 17: 36
    +5
    As a young lieutenant, I happened to take part in the Zapadnaya Dvina-87 exercise, the commander called me and ordered me to deliver the ammunition by helicopter to the Dretun training ground (Vitebsk region). As usual, everything quickly and immediately, the Mi-8 flew in and to make loading faster, they began to roll up stacks of b / p boxes with the help of a wheelbarrow, and then they pushed the helicopter floor with a wheel, how the helicopter captain yelled obscenely, for obvious reasons I cannot tell, but then he took a sledgehammer and hammered a hole, I saw the repair of the helicopter, then we flew, the helicopter went down, then up, scary, I’m in the cargo hold, hugging the boxes, and then the same captain comes out of the cockpit, holds out a flask and says - for bread , and then you are some kind of scared, and there is pure alcohol, ate, it seems that it was no longer scary, this is how I flew in a helicopter for the first time. I respect helicopter pilots, I had a chance to collide, they are all good guys.
  22. anfil
    anfil 28 November 2015 17: 36
    +5
    Each car has its own Soul.

    Heaven suddenly turned into hell for me
    A traitorous blow from around the corner ...
    I am a plane with the soul of man
    With special wing geometry.
    When they hit in the back, they know - they will not miss, What are the weak spots ... And the pain that started somewhere in the fuselage,
    It pierces from the cab to the tail.
    What the hell is going on in this world ?!
    Do not see me through the fire and smoke.
    I'm not Charlie, I'm Su-Xnumx
    And where are the tablets with my name?
    Pique will tighten ... Dizziness
    Shuffles everything into a kaleidoscope.
    I have not been given a chance to escape
    I meet the inevitable directly in the forehead.
    Earth will embrace to take forever
    My recorder let him cover the darkness.
    I am a plane with the soul of man
    With special wing geometry.
    Sergey Efimov
    1. Stanss
      Stanss 28 November 2015 21: 04
      0
      class !!! Thank!!!
  23. narval20
    narval20 28 November 2015 17: 37
    +1
    An interesting, timely and very necessary article.
    Every time I read about our turntables I feel proud of OUR scientists, designers, engineers who invented and developed these wonderful machines.
    And about the guys-helicopter pilots, for me personally, there is simply NOT ENOUGH words of sincere gratitude to say. Few of them, these words, when you want to say thank you to the people who saved you and my subordinates, when we were simply thrown at the "mercy of the Almighty" ...
    Complex, necessary and courageous service for guys. Thanks you! drinks soldier
  24. bobba94
    bobba94 28 November 2015 18: 59
    13
    "Borshchevoz". We met two friends, a fighter pilot and a helicopter pilot. We sat down to drink. The pilot begins to pour vodka into glasses. The helicopter pilot says - pour yourself a full glass, and me half. And why ? Yes, I’ll deliver a full glass for now, so I’ll splash half. He who served knows.
    1. ancient
      ancient 28 November 2015 20: 56
      +2
      Quote: bobba94
      Yes, while I bring the full glass, so half splash. Who has served knows.


      This is only for the Mi-6, which is a "tooth crusher" ... "they said" drinks
  25. hly
    hly 28 November 2015 19: 31
    0
    Thank you for the article.
  26. papanya59
    papanya59 28 November 2015 19: 55
    0
    Quote: anfil
    Each car has its own Soul.

    Heaven suddenly turned into hell for me
    A traitorous blow from around the corner ...
    I am a plane with the soul of man
    With special wing geometry.
    When they hit in the back, they know - they will not miss, What are the weak spots ... And the pain that started somewhere in the fuselage,
    It pierces from the cab to the tail.
    What the hell is going on in this world ?!
    Do not see me through the fire and smoke.
    I'm not Charlie, I'm Su-Xnumx
    And where are the tablets with my name?
    Pique will tighten ... Dizziness
    Shuffles everything into a kaleidoscope.
    I have not been given a chance to escape
    I meet the inevitable directly in the forehead.
    Earth will embrace to take forever
    My recorder let him cover the darkness.
    I am a plane with the soul of man
    With special wing geometry.
    Sergey Efimov

    Right for the soul ...
  27. Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 28 November 2015 19: 56
    0
    I don’t understand, there are hundreds of helicopter modifications and each with its own character, features of piloting, service ... why the heck? drums -ka50, 52. transport mi 8. everything. The nomenclature of spare parts is less, it is easier to teach pilots, interchangeability and unification are higher. for which horseradish produce modifications ???
    1. not main
      not main 28 November 2015 20: 23
      +1
      Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
      I don’t understand, there are hundreds of helicopter modifications and each with its own character, features of piloting, service ... why the heck? drums -ka50, 52. transport mi 8. everything. The nomenclature of spare parts is less, it is easier to teach pilots, interchangeability and unification are higher. for which horseradish produce modifications ???

      The key word is "I do not understand", but in fact helicopters have thousands of tasks, and therefore so many modifications!
      1. Manul
        Manul 28 November 2015 22: 55
        +1
        Quote: non-primary
        The key word is "I do not understand", but in fact helicopters have thousands of tasks, and therefore so many modifications!

        I have two main "don't understand".
        1. Why it was necessary to create an MI-35 with obviously worse performance (could it be because of a lower cost and simpler manufacturing?), And not to launch production of upgraded Mi-24s.
        2. Why is the Mi-28 not provided for duplication of control? Moreover, they did release a training MI-28, where there is duplication. Why all the cars could not be manufactured with double control? (I have an assumption that either an aiming system or control)
        1. Fregate
          Fregate 28 November 2015 23: 34
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          Quote: Manul
          2. Why is the Mi-28 not provided for duplication of control? Moreover, they did release a training MI-28, where there is duplication. Why all the cars could not be manufactured with double control? (I have an assumption that either an aiming system or control)

          Yes, this is a flaw. But after the UB was released with duplicated controls, it seemed like they said that all combat men would do the same with duplicated controls.
  28. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 28 November 2015 20: 35
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    Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
    I don’t understand, there are hundreds of helicopter modifications and each with its own character, features of piloting, service ... why the heck? drums -ka50, 52. transport mi 8. everything. The nomenclature of spare parts is less, it is easier to teach pilots, interchangeability and unification are higher. for which horseradish produce modifications ???

    But count how many modifications of vehicles are based on the Mi-8 glider? But there is a general-glider part of the instruments and part of the electrical equipment. Engines, even including different ones. The tasks for each helicopter are different and the design idea does not stand in one place. They even came out with a * boat * glider - this is the Mi-14 for landing on water (this model is spotlighted in the movie * TASS is authorized to declare .. *). And so from a distance it looks all on one face
    1. Jozhkin Cat
      Jozhkin Cat 28 November 2015 20: 47
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      that highly specialized cars will be everywhere, this is understandable. It is unclear why in the army such a variety of grapes to do.
      there are only two tasks. Kneading from the heart so that the earth would shake is drummers. And carry loads, the landing is transport.

      Mi-8S - staff helicopter with round portholes.
      Mi-8PS - staff helicopter with square portholes. belay Aesthetes are bad ...
      1. jPilot
        jPilot 28 November 2015 22: 48
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        Man, if you do not know the abbreviation, it is better not to write anything so as not to look stupid.
        I explain the Mi-8C is a cabin, I’ll tell you one secret inside it is everything like in a passenger plane, because the windows are rectangular, like in an airplane, even there is a toilet and a ladder instead of a sliding door, it is designed to carry command. But he is not a staff helicopter. And the main helicopter with us is Mi-9, in general, the same Mi-8 is only all in antennas and clogged with equipment, and therefore very heavy.
        And all helicopters are sharpened for different tasks, think narrowly "tovarisch", for example, you know that a helicopter can still install minefields! And even lay out anti-tank mines. And jammers Mi-8SMV and Mi-8PPA. And without them, the theater of operations (theater of operations) will be very sad.
  29. Barakuda
    Barakuda 28 November 2015 21: 50
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    Quote: Yozhkin Cat
    staff helicopter with square portholes.

    Well, in aesthetics, I'm an oak tree. But I’ll tell you how I studied the theory - under loads it breaks in the corners, therefore it should be round, it does not concern helicopters. hi
  30. atamankko
    atamankko 28 November 2015 22: 46
    +1
    The article is good, and the author is in love with his specialty
    and no matter what his position and what color is the diploma.
  31. berkut9737
    berkut9737 29 November 2015 00: 21
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    Thanks for the great article! We look forward to continuing.
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  33. kamil_tt
    kamil_tt 2 December 2015 17: 18
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    if I’m not mistaken, the Mi-35 performs bombing on the video, and the pilot says in an interview that this is not possible?