Erdogan: If someone should apologize, then definitely not we ...

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Turkish President Erdogan said that Turkey is not going to apologize for the Russian Su-24 bomber shot down by the Turkish Air Force. Erdogan continues to assert that the Russian plane violated the airspace, without commenting on the questions why Ankara ignored the special communication line with Moscow for an urgent message about the “air violation in preparation”, and where the Russian plane was located for the mentioned General Staff of the Armed Forces of Turkey five minutes before hitting it with Turkish missiles - during the "first warning out of ten"?

Erdogan on the air CNN (and now this person is interviewed by various media with surprising activity, trying to shift the blame and problems with a sore head to the healthy one according to P. Poroshenko's method):

I think that if someone should apologize, it’s definitely not for us. Apologize to those who violated our airspace. Our Air Force just fulfilled their duties. Responsibilities were to respond to the violator.




At the same time, the Turkish president announced that Turkey will continue to act in the same way. According to Erdogan, if “a new violation of the air borders of Turkey” takes place, the Air Forces of the country will respond in the same way.
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    1. +129
      26 November 2015 18: 26
      Simple practice. the mattresses again threw another six at the barricades. The remaining six are thrilled.
      1. +63
        26 November 2015 18: 28
        The Turkish "sultan" runs into rudeness. It can be seen that the uncles behind him have promised a lot or are holding onto the Faberge well. They will only throw it when they pin it.
        1. +30
          26 November 2015 18: 30
          The Turkish "sultan" runs into rudeness.

          So do not be shy! Politeness is already inappropriate here!
          - snake underwater!
          Quote: hard.gni.da
          I think that if someone should apologize, then it’s definitely not for us. Apologies need to those who violated our airspace.

          B..b, we also have to apologize to this pus?
          Just about ... l, or what?
          1. +63
            26 November 2015 18: 39
            The profit from cheap profit has muddied the mind. Inadequate at all. That is why Russia is so unlucky .... To them with all my heart, and the "friends" are shot in the back. The army and the navy, and nobody else.
            1. +9
              26 November 2015 18: 42
              In this perspective, it looks like Leonid Yakubovich (Field of Miracles) wassat
              1. +22
                26 November 2015 18: 50
                Do not insult Yakubovich
              2. +84
                26 November 2015 18: 54
                This demotivator is as old as the world. But who knew that this would be possible today.
                1. 0
                  26 November 2015 19: 29
                  Yes, Israel is more than ever appropriate.
                2. +4
                  26 November 2015 22: 09
                  The Americans merged Erdogan, they framed it clearly, I think Turkey was also leaked, maybe the Kurds’ dream of Kurdistan will come true.
              3. +43
                26 November 2015 19: 04
                Quote: Dr. Bormental
                In this perspective, it looks like Leonid Yakubovich (Field of Miracles)

                That's what he looks like. And Yakubovich is a good old man.
                1. +14
                  26 November 2015 19: 11
                  At first I wanted to write about it, but it’s not very similar there. And right here, yes. Ja! Ja! Naturlich!
                  1. +3
                    26 November 2015 21: 38
                    Erdogan seems to have a poor understanding of what he is doing. But now, being a hostage to his line of conduct towards Russia and the neo-Ottoman position, he has a very small selection of behavioral options.
                    Russia is not a country of the weight category in which Turkey can compete. Erdogan was very mistaken.
            2. +11
              26 November 2015 18: 48
              Quote: Moment
              Army and Navy — and no one else.


              More videoconferencing.
            3. +2
              26 November 2015 18: 53
              He himself will go to the toilet to drown !!!
              1. +2
                26 November 2015 19: 07
                At least, striding broadly. Perdu Khan is not something that Sharavara pants will tear
                1. +7
                  26 November 2015 19: 34
                  Quote: guzik007
                  At least, striding broadly. Perdu Khan is not something that Sharavara pants will tear


                  But it doesn’t matter. This statement is behind the tail of the dog when she turned around the corner. There are Kurds !!! And their gain in any provoke Turkey. And the Turks themselves marked the crossing of the border with a red line. The conclusion is simple. But NATO howl shut up the moment. Stupidly to blame!
                2. +1
                  26 November 2015 20: 14
                  Quote: guzik007
                  At least, striding broadly. Perdu Khan is not something that Sharavara pants will tear

                  Sorry, you have a mistake! Correctly say: fart!
              2. +1
                26 November 2015 22: 09
                health
                Yes, and no need to apologize, drowning too, no need .. dispense with apology.
                it is necessary to tell the whole world how Amerikans forced the Kurds to bomb, how they forced to shoot down a Russian plane, how they forced to deceive Nata and the EU. as forced to help the igil.
                we are kind, we will forgive this.
              3. +2
                26 November 2015 23: 26
                And the son accidentally drowned in a tank with stolen oil.
            4. Tor5
              +4
              26 November 2015 19: 17
              Oh, when do we understand that there are no friends in politics, there were not and never will be!
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            6. +1
              26 November 2015 20: 06
              Quote: Moment
              The profit from cheap profit has muddied the mind.

              ---------------------
              They write that 25 lyamas of greenery were transferred to him today ... From the Wangard company ...

              http://warfiles.ru/show-101072-skolko-stoit-sbit-samolet.html
            7. +4
              26 November 2015 20: 17
              Wrong .. For too long the GDP thinks ... the mattress covers would have banged the day before yesterday ... a terrorist attack on a passenger liner, knocked down drying ... quite a reason for carpet bombing a small piece of turret ... or the use of tactical nuclear weapons ... while the guarantor is swinging, a lot of water will leak ... as in the Donbass, in March 2014…. Didn’t dare… well, we all caught a long, aching hemorrhoid .. And in this case, all the words, it seems, bravado… and the Turkish stream will be built, and the nuclear power plant will be completed… unless tourism will be slammed .. And our money aces will put pressure on it… and it will all end only with empty words ... and war is an expensive thing .... And if you fight in a big way, so not with our declining economy, then you fight like a street scumbag ... right away, without thinking - and gnawed at .... Nobody will peep…. And all these reflections, another speech for LADIES .. yes demands for an apology, but supposedly economic sanctions ... well, empty, bullshit ... swings too long .. No matter how late it gets ... while I watch "loss of face" .. Moreover, not only in Syria, definitely and in politics concerning the Outskirts ... what influential such springs ... release everything on the brakes, caring only about their own pocket?
              1. +13
                26 November 2015 20: 24
                Quote: vsoltan
                Wrong .. For too long, the GDP has been thinking ... the mattresses would have plopped the day before yesterday ...

                Tell me, if now your relatives: wife, child were in Turkey, among 10 vacationers, would you "bahn"?
                1. +6
                  26 November 2015 20: 38
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  Quote: vsoltan
                  Wrong .. For too long, the GDP has been thinking ... the mattresses would have plopped the day before yesterday ...

                  Tell me, if now your relatives: wife, child were in Turkey, among 10 vacationers, would you "bahn"?

                  When the Turks shot down, they did not think about their citizens in Russia, they are sure that they are safe. And no one will touch ours, but the Turkish police will still guard - incidents will begin - the end of the tourist industry.
                  But immediately it would be worth answering - to rake a couple of radars that that plane brought to ours, and it was necessary to do this on the same day and in a pointed manner. Nobody would have pickled!
                  1. +13
                    26 November 2015 20: 44
                    Quote: andj61
                    But immediately it would be worth answering - to rake a couple of radars that that plane was flying onto ours, and it was necessary to do this on the same day and in a pointed manner. Nobody would have pickled!

                    That. what had to be done, and in general, I would defiantly flunk out of the plane. May it be in the sky of Turkey. do not care.
                    Erdogan generally lost his scent.
                    1. +6
                      26 November 2015 20: 56
                      Quote: atalef
                      May it be in the sky of Turkey.

                      I think we will have a chance to do this in the sky of Syria.
                    2. +1
                      26 November 2015 21: 02
                      Quote: atalef
                      what had to be done and in general, I would have flunked out of the plane. May it be in the sky of Turkey. do not care.

                      And what is interesting in Israel about this saying, what moods, what do politicians and people think?
                      1. +16
                        26 November 2015 21: 20
                        I apologize for being responsible for atalef, but he apparently missed your post. In Israel, they say that the Russians got involved in this fight did not do their homework, on bl. in the east, it is customary to respond to a blow with a stronger blow, otherwise you will be considered a weakling, you should have Max for an hour. to split all the stripes of that airfield from where this plane took off (not even with the victims, it doesn’t matter) it’s important that it be strong and loud so that you are afraid and after that do not ask them to apologize, but we were only lucky to inform you that it’s next time it will be much worse. That’s how they would have understood, well, they would have smelled a bit, but they would not have climbed anymore. This is what they say in Israel.
                      2. +9
                        26 November 2015 21: 48
                        Quote: wanderer
                        the Russians got involved in this fight did not do their homework- on bl. in the east, it is customary to respond to a blow with a stronger blow, otherwise you will be considered a weaklingYou should have been within an hour Max. to put apart two of all the strips of that airfield from where this plane took off (not even necessarily with casualties, it doesn’t matter) it is important that it be strong and loud so that they are afraid and after that do not ask them to apologize, but To inform you that you are lucky, we only warned you next time it will be much worse. That’s how they would have understood, well, they would have smelled a bit, but they would not have climbed anymore.

                        Surprisingly, this is exactly what I know from my quite considerable experience about communication with Muslims and about the rules of survival in the Muslim world. And this applies not only in the Middle East, but also in Central Asia and the Caucasus. And Israel, by the way, lives like that. And rightly so! A lot of things for me personally in Israeli politics are not so much, I argued a lot with the Israelis here at the Military District, but what they can’t take away from Israel - they know how to strike back. This is me 40 years ago, after Munich I realized. To some extent, Israel needs to learn from, and not look for phosphates in tomatoes.
                      3. +9
                        26 November 2015 22: 10
                        That is why Israel still lives. If they didn’t answer indescribably for every blow, they would have eaten us long ago.
                      4. +4
                        26 November 2015 22: 17
                        Quote: wanderer
                        getting involved in this fight did not do homework


                        but in my opinion, on the contrary ... before in Syria there was no C300 (400) now there is ... and there is a no-fly zone ... request

                        bomb a member of nato? having 10000 hostages? we are quiet ...
                      5. +3
                        26 November 2015 22: 23
                        Quote: vorobey
                        bomb a member of nato? having 10000 hostages? we are quiet ...

                        Why bomb it? In Latakia, 4 SU-30s against hundreds of Turkish fighters. Or our pilots on bombers and attack aircraft kamikaze?
                        Our VKS forces were focused on the fight against ISIS and not against an enemy that has air defense, interceptor fighters, etc. They were simply not ready! What was necessary to beat the Turks with? Yars? Or send all the bombers to the Turkish F-16 missiles ?
                        Therefore, there was no immediate answer. In Moscow there are no complexes capable of working on the ground.
                      6. +2
                        26 November 2015 23: 26
                        Calibrate a couple of military airfields with good wishes for the future
                      7. +2
                        26 November 2015 23: 30
                        Quote: sharp-lad
                        Calibrate a couple of military airfields with good wishes for the future

                        We, unfortunately, all the Caliber will then go to clean up this airfield, maybe there are about 100 fighter interceptors there ... we need a very dense swarm of missiles to break through this barrier
                      8. +1
                        27 November 2015 09: 17
                        .... We, unfortunately, all Caliber will go then to clean this airfield, ...

                        .... Do you know how many of them are in the "bins" of the homeland ???? ..... I dare to assure you that there are norms of ammunition supply for one unit of the carrier ..... And it is far from the figure, for example, 10. ..... No one will be thrown by such devices if there are not enough ... hi
                      9. +1
                        27 November 2015 15: 49
                        Quote: aleks 62 next
                        ... Do you know how many of them are in the "bins" of the homeland ???? ..... I dare to assure you that there are norms of ammunition supply for one unit of the carrier ..... And it is far from the figure, for example 10 .. .... No one will be thrown by such devices if there are not enough ...

                        Even if there are enough of them, answer me how many carriers of these devices we have and can we provide a sufficiently solid salvo to break through Turkish air defense?
                      10. 0
                        27 November 2015 09: 13
                        ..... Therefore, there was no immediate answer. There are no complexes in Moscow capable of working on the ground .....

                        ..... But there are "Caliber", x-555, x-101 ..... It would be enough ... hi
                      11. +1
                        27 November 2015 15: 52
                        Quote: aleks 62 next
                        ..... But there are "Caliber", x-555, x-101 ..... It would be enough ...

                        Gauges in Moscow? Hmm ... what a fright they came from there? X-555 and X-101 have not really passed the state tests and by definition there can’t be many. And again the question is, how many carriers of these missiles, so that you can guaranteed to break through the defense of Turkey?
                      12. +12
                        26 November 2015 23: 41
                        Because of such conversations, no one takes you seriously, but bombing, but having 10000 hostages, and believe me after that your hostages will be cherished as a sacred cow, otherwise it will be worse !!!!!! And to tell fairy tales “we don’t have it. We will buy it and we won’t sell it” on the BV it won’t drive “and the no-fly zone” leave it to the children for the stories. And yet - it should not be "quiet", but loudly and with cannonade !!!!! Enough tkhushnichat already.
                      13. +2
                        27 November 2015 01: 42
                        Quote: wanderer
                        Because of such conversations, no one takes you seriously, but bombing, but having 10000 hostages, and believe me after that your hostages will be cherished as a sacred cow, otherwise it will be worse !!!!!! And to tell fairy tales “we don’t have it. We will buy it and we won’t sell it” on the BV it won’t drive “and the no-fly zone” leave it to the children for the stories. And yet - it should not be "quiet", but loudly and with cannonade !!!!! Enough tkhushnichat already.


                        Well, I see you are taken seriously and the hezbollah has quieted down and Hamas does not stick out his nose ....
                      14. +2
                        27 November 2015 07: 09
                        Sparrow, well, if it's hard for you to google, then in short, after 2006, not a single Katyusha fell in the north, in the south, until the last operation, two dozen flew in a day, now well, maybe one is "left" (self-made) in a month, there is a difference ??
                      15. 0
                        27 November 2015 09: 18
                        ..... enough already to thush .....

                        .... I agree ..... The word amused ..... As far as I understand, you’re going, but you have a state language Hebrew ..... laughing
                      16. +5
                        26 November 2015 21: 23
                        Quote: APASUS
                        And what is interesting in Israel about this saying, what moods, what do politicians and people think?

                        Israeli regulars in VO say so - the Russian leadership showed weakness: it was necessary to respond adequately: immediately bring down their plane, regardless of location, radar, anything at the airport from which it took off, etc. I completely agree with this.
                      17. +9
                        26 November 2015 22: 24
                        Hey . Andrew
                        And Sanya. Hello again
                        You look at this sheepskin, completely lost the scent
                        Erdogan: "Putin did not answer my call and did not call back"

                        Erdogan said that immediately after the incident with the plane he tried to reach the President of Russia, but Putin did not answer the call and don't call backl.

                        In an interview given several hours earlier to CNN, Erdogan said that Turkey does not intend to apologize to Russia, since "those who have invaded Turkish airspace should apologize."

                        This animal had to call back.
                        laughing
                      18. +1
                        26 November 2015 22: 29
                        Quote: atalef
                        This animal had to call back.

                        More effective Iskander from the Armenian border, if put there.
                      19. 0
                        26 November 2015 22: 30
                        Yes, he will call back - Erdogan’s corpse - we will help the Kurds, Greeks, Cypriots, and Armenians - well, how they will fight on all fronts - the end is to them - yes, it’s time to annihilate Turkey - a wild country and of course ISIS accomplice
                      20. +1
                        26 November 2015 23: 28
                        All Turks for what? There are also quite adequate.
                      21. +2
                        27 November 2015 00: 08
                        Adequate will live in the autonomous districts of neighboring states))))
                      22. 0
                        26 November 2015 23: 21
                        Gentlemen, who knows, maybe Erdogan is a schizo? Or a drug? Completely inadequate ... however, the risk seems to have been calculated in advance, since our leadership seems to have really "lost face" ... something should be learned ... from the Israelis, well done, and from the mattresses ... it's a shame ... it's a shame ... Russia seems to have gotten involved into another long-term war ... and with what behind your back? With the killed economy and the nouveau riches fattening at the national expense? Now is not the Union ... unpatriotic? Do I speak provocatively? But really, if you think about it? The outskirts are close at hand, events are brewing in Central Asia, and possibly in the Caucasus (Karabakh) ... and what to do? Or does VVP have another "cunning plan"? After all, he himself not so long ago spoke about a street fight ... well, hit it first ... just make up your mind!
                      23. +3
                        27 November 2015 00: 01
                        Quote: andj61
                        Israeli regulars in VO say so - the Russian leadership showed weakness: it was necessary to respond adequately: immediately

                        And not only Israeli. Many, many years ago, we, then green boys, were taught by a major instructor - any manifestation of aggression must be answered extremely harshly and the answer should exclude further possible actions of the enemy. In normal language - they hit you in the face - break your bones until you are sure that the enemy will not stand up. And, if possible, this should be done quickly and with a minimal amount of body movements.

                        My opinion is that Erdogan should not make statements now, but organize the extinguishing of airfields and distribute to the residents of Ankara the books "How to behave in a nuclear explosion."
                      24. +1
                        27 November 2015 09: 21
                        ..... My opinion is that Erdogan should not make statements now, but organize the extinguishing of airfields and distribute to the residents of Ankara little books "How to behave in a nuclear explosion" ....


                        ... I was heavily minus two days ago for such "seditious" thoughts ... laughing
                      25. +1
                        27 November 2015 13: 42
                        Quote: aleks 62 next
                        I was heavily minus for such "seditious" thoughts two days ago

                        This is probably because you did not give a good example about the major instructor and the GDP has not yet said a tough answer. Unfortunately, I did not read that comment, but I would not put a minus. good
                    3. 0
                      26 November 2015 23: 08
                      And with you, dear Levoslav ... :)
                    4. 0
                      27 November 2015 04: 37
                      Quote: atalef
                      That. what had to be done, and in general, I would defiantly flunk out of the plane. May it be in the sky of Turkey. do not care.

                      Pilots people are military. Revenge performers is stupid. The answer must go to those who gave the orders
                  2. +4
                    26 November 2015 20: 50
                    Quote: andj61
                    When the Turks shot down, they did not think about their citizens in Russia, they are sure that they are safe

                    Because we are not Turks and history has proved that such methods are not inherent to us.
                    Quote: andj61
                    And no one will touch ours, and the Turkish police will still guard - incidents will begin - the end of the tourist industry.

                    The hedgehog has come to an end. Or are you thinking of going on vacation to Turkey?
                    Quote: andj61
                    But immediately it would be worth answering - to rake a couple of radars that that plane brought to ours, and it was necessary to do this on the same day and in a pointed manner. Nobody would have pickled!

                    Erdogan immediately ran to Brussels after the incident. If he had been supported and defended hot there, we would have started ironing the regular parts of the Turks and after the NATO intervened, what then? World War III? Clever heads of state play with such concepts on feelings and assumptions alone they won’t be, since they are responsible not only for themselves and their family, but for the whole country.
                    1. +3
                      26 November 2015 21: 28
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Quote: andj61
                      And no one will touch ours, and the Turkish police will still guard - incidents will begin - the end of the tourist industry.
                      The hedgehog has come to an end. Or are you thinking of going on vacation to Turkey?

                      Most tourists in Turkey are by no means from Russia, but from Germany and other Europe. This tourism business would also end
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      Erdogan immediately ran to Brussels after the incident. If he had been supported and defended hotly, we would have started ironing the regular parts of the Turks and after the NATO intervened, what then is the Third World War?

                      Where did I write that it is necessary to "iron the regular parts of the Turks"? Once again I repeat ONE (maximum two) adequate strike in response - on a Turkish plane, or on a radar, or on any structure at the airfield - and that's it!
                      And no one would intercede for the Turks!
                      1. +1
                        26 November 2015 21: 31
                        Quote: andj61
                        or by radar, or by some kind of construction at the airport - and that’s all!

                        But the radar itself is in the field and it is not served by officers and privates of the REGULAR Turkish army, or are military airfields in Turkey deserted?
                      2. +5
                        26 November 2015 21: 36
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        But the radar itself is in the field and it is not served by officers and privates of the REGULAR Turkish army, or are military airfields in Turkey deserted?

                        Our people died - they must die too. The principle of talion! And nothing more.
                      3. +2
                        26 November 2015 21: 45
                        Quote: andj61
                        Our people died - they must die too. The principle of talion! And nothing more.

                        It’s not evening yet. All day has passed. Everything will be. But for such acts, preparation is needed. The S-400 is in positions, the fighters are pulling up like interceptors ... We will repay the debt, with interest.
                      4. +1
                        26 November 2015 22: 07
                        Quote: andj61
                        Our people died - they must die too. The principle of talion! And nothing more.

                        That's good ... the first hours after our plane was shot down ... What are your actions? How will you burn airfields or radars? Given that there are about 100 Turkish fighters near the border with Syria, and in Moscow there is nothing stupid to work on ground targets Calibers from the Caspian? So the Turks have fighter-interceptors at the airfields, and what density should the swarm of Calibers be to "get" the Turks?
                      5. 0
                        27 November 2015 09: 26
                        .... How will you burn airfields or radars? ...

                        .... X-31 ..... They are there without fail .... And their carrier -SU-24 .... Which may (even the first "clean" Su-24) worked very well in the regime enveloping the terrain (height 30-50m) ..... they would not have time to vyaknut .... And to cover the "Fort" "Moscow (64 missiles - effective range 250 km)) .....
                      6. +2
                        26 November 2015 22: 11
                        Quote: andj61
                        Our people died - they must die too. The principle of talion! And nothing more.
                        Oddly enough, despite my reputation ("pan-Turkist" and "Kazakh nationalist" laughing ) I fully support your point of view ..
                        Quote: andj61
                        And no one would intercede for the Turks!
                        In the eyes of the civilized world, the Russian Federation has the moral right to "land" any combat aircraft of the Turkish Air Force. I think even adequate Turks think so ..
                  3. +1
                    26 November 2015 21: 08
                    Quote: andj61
                    When the Turks shot down, they did not think about their citizens in Russia, they are sure that they are safe

                    You did not answer my direct question-
                    Tell me, if only now your family: wife, baby were on the territory of Turkey, among 10 vacationers, would you “bang?” Or would you run to pull them out of there, not thinking about anything?
                    Or, for you, these citizens are just people “who were in the wrong place and at the wrong time?” And do not care that they have families, by the way, citizens of the Russian Federation.
                    1. +1
                      26 November 2015 21: 20
                      The question was not for me, but I will answer. Of course, I would run - if such a situation happened. Yes, and where would I go? Only the situation does not depend on us - and the safety of our tourists in Turkey and Turkish workers in Russia, all the same, thank God, is not dependent on the actions of the government of the country. Or are you sure that the Turkish leadership is absolutely scumbags?
                      But worth it - it was worth it on radars, an airfield or something else! This would not lead to escalation, but the face would be preserved. And determination would be shown. The talion principle in action will cool anyone.
                      1. +4
                        26 November 2015 21: 26
                        Quote: andj61
                        Or are you sure that the leadership of Turkey is absolute scumbags?

                        Do you think that the order to bring down our plane for no apparent reason is an adequate act? For me, the Turkish leadership is vile, prudent and unpredictable. And therefore, I would not expect from this leadership noble gestures towards our tourists and people working there.
                      2. +2
                        26 November 2015 21: 58
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Quote: andj61
                        Or are you sure that the leadership of Turkey is absolute scumbags?

                        Do you think that the order to bring down our plane for no apparent reason is an adequate act? For me, the Turkish leadership is vile, prudent and unpredictable. And therefore, I would not expect from this leadership noble gestures towards our tourists and people working there.

                        Therefore, it was necessary - IMMEDIATELY - to show them the seriousness of the situation. And now all concern comes down to words. And just this can give them reason to hope for success in case of blackmail by our citizens.
                      3. +4
                        26 November 2015 22: 07
                        Quote: andj61
                        Therefore, it was necessary - IMMEDIATELY - to show them the seriousness of the situation. And now all concern comes down to words. And just this can give them reason to hope for success in case of blackmail by our citizens.

                        Yes, Andrey, you need to answer BV immediately, otherwise everything will come down to verbiage and the eastern bazaar.
                        Turkey must be extinguished economically.
                        Let the Turks ami Pirdogan in the feces of the world.
                        Believe it though. pirdogan. it's a doll, and dumb.
                        The main ideologist and gray cardinal is Prime Minister Davutoglu.
                        This pan-Turkist is finished. Both have a roof of their own greatness, I hope Russia will show them which shepherd they are supposed to sit in, fucking the lambs. laughing
                      4. 0
                        26 November 2015 23: 32
                        Moved by relatives, increase the area of ​​the Black and Mediterranean Sea!
                      5. +1
                        26 November 2015 23: 41
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Do you think that the order to bring down our plane for no apparent reason is an adequate act? For me, the Turkish leadership is vile, prudent and unpredictable. And therefore, I would not expect from this leadership noble gestures towards our tourists and people working there.

                        If you will allow me, I believe that hooligans and scoundrels should answer in a language that they understand, otherwise they will suspect that they have achieved their goal. If you are interested in my opinion, I would answer immediately, so that they would drop their feces and ammunition. And even the word Russia were afraid to pronounce by ear. hi
                      6. +1
                        26 November 2015 23: 44
                        Quote: Hello
                        If you are interested in my opinion, I would answer immediately, so that they would run dropping feces and ammunition. And they were even afraid to pronounce the word Russia.

                        Excuse me, but answer with what it was necessary to answer? I agree, it was necessary ... BUT WHAT?! Yars, or clubs, than? Look soberly and objectively at that moment we had available tools and you will understand what I am asking.
                      7. 0
                        27 November 2015 00: 37
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Excuse me, but answer with what it was necessary to answer? I agree, it was necessary ... BUT WHAT?! Yars, or clubs, than? Look soberly and objectively at that moment we had available tools and you will understand what I am asking.

                        To everyone, everything that was available. It was worth it once and for all to show that it was impossible to shoot down Russian planes in any way. And Erdogan would have eaten it as cute, and would understand everything at once for it is intelligible and in a language he understands hi
                      8. +1
                        27 November 2015 00: 47
                        Quote: Hello

                        To everyone, everything that was available. It was worth it once and for all to show that it was impossible to shoot down Russian planes in any way. And Erdogan would have eaten it as cute, and would understand everything at once for it is intelligible and in a language he understands

                        What exactly? On the border with Syria, the Turks have about a hundred fighters and air defense systems. Send our bombers all that is in Latakia with a cover of 4 SU-30s to Turkey? And do you think the Turks would sit and wait for us to bomb out? I think not and fighters would pick up and we would watch another chronicle of our bombers falling. The cruiser Moscow can’t hit the ground, because it stupidly has NO complexes on board such. Caliber them from the Caspian? Turks have fighter interceptors and they would just intercept missiles our.
                        In fact, at that time we didn’t have weapons or complexes with which to retaliate. Well, it didn’t happen! You see? Maybe Yars and the Clubs. But then we will talk about the Third World War.
                        Our entire VKS group in Syria is imprisoned for fighting ISIS, and not with an enemy who has its own air defense and fighter aircraft in good numbers. That is why there are many bombers and attack aircraft in Latakia, and there are only 4 fighters.
                      9. +1
                        27 November 2015 05: 41
                        You are absolutely right, and you do not waste your nerves, otherwise the "scar" will be
                    2. +2
                      26 November 2015 21: 34
                      Sorry, but how our "guarantor" answers is the answer of the haberdasher, not the cardinal. The answer had to be instantaneous and harsh, right up to the strike on the F-16 airfield, even at the risk of a conflict with NATO (Although something tells me that they would have moved to the "bazaar") And even if we assume that the attack on the SU-24 This is the initiative of only Erodogan, but now all NATO is waiting with interest for the reaction of the Russian Federation or not? And now the thought is taking shape in their heads that the Russians can be shot down, there will be no response. This means that an armed conflict with NATO is becoming inevitable.
                  4. +1
                    26 November 2015 23: 07
                    We're the same blood… :)
                2. 0
                  26 November 2015 23: 06
                  My rest in the Vladimir region.
              2. 0
                26 November 2015 20: 52
                Oh how !!! Carpet bombing, tactical nuclear weapons, loss of face. Who exactly are you? and where? What is not ours is for sure.
              3. +1
                26 November 2015 21: 36
                And you yourself believe in what you wrote? The answer has already begun, but it’s not yet evening.
                Or are you satisfied with only a nuclear strike on Ankara?
              4. +3
                26 November 2015 22: 49
                vsoltan (4) SU Today, 20:17 ↑
                Wrong .. For too long, the GDP has been thinking ... the mattresses would have plopped the day before yesterday ...


                From the whole forum you are the only person who understands the consequences of the gas policy of our oligarchs. We lose one slap in the face after another. I don’t forgive Donbass at all, I'm afraid it will not be the best way with Syria. Where is our fucking coalition, Kazakhstan, India, China? We agree with the French, we call Americans the partners, tfu, and it all ends with another tomato war, and the fact that some smelly Erdogan spits in our face under general applause! I am sure that if the conditions on which Russia concluded an agreement on a nuclear power station and gas in Turkey were brought to the people in time, then there would be no limit to the indignation of the people. I'm afraid that this time we will have to wipe ourselves, because according to Mr. Medvedev, with the support of the President: "You can't change anything, it's wrong."
              5. 0
                26 November 2015 23: 59
                Enough about tactical nuclear strikes already. No one has ever done this after World War II. It is strange to hear this from the marshal.
                1. +1
                  27 November 2015 00: 02
                  Quote: marlin1203
                  Enough about tactical nuclear strikes already. No one has ever done this after World War II. It is strange to hear this from the marshal.

                  If this is you to me, then read my posts carefully and show where I talked about the use of nuclear weapons. I asked the person a question - what did we need to answer immediately to sabotage? Because from non-nuclear weapons at that time there was nothing suitable at hand working on Given the air defense and the Turkish air force, there were no bombers, because there was no cover. 4 SU-30 vs. 100 F-16 is not a cover. And the cruiser Moscow does not have complexes capable of working on the ground.
                  Therefore, there was no immediate response to this diversion.
            8. +1
              26 November 2015 21: 30
              Yes, Russia has many enemies today Mother!
              For a long time jackals in the face did not receive, here again fear and lost!
          2. +16
            26 November 2015 18: 56
            In fact, official apologies and compensations were too easy for Erdogan. But fools do not look for easy ways. Demands from Turkey are not small, and relations with the EU are the same as in Ukraine, so the slide of the economy to the Ukrainian level will be quite fast. And then Ermogan’s barmalei will eat his own.
            1. +2
              26 November 2015 21: 07
              Quote: Vita VKO
              In fact, official apologies and compensations were too easy for Erdogan. But fools do not look for easy ways. Demands from Turkey are not small, and relations with the EU are the same as in Ukraine, so the slide of the economy to the Ukrainian level will be quite fast. And then Ermogan’s barmalei will eat his own.

              and if you add a bearded “moderate opposition”, so to speak, which should be driven out of Syria and Iraq ...?
            2. +2
              26 November 2015 23: 28
              Oh, I would like to ... I hope that our people will also take a hot part ... what thread is the next flower and fruit revolution ... but what is not an option?
          3. +8
            26 November 2015 19: 02
            B..b, we also have to apologize to this pus?
            Just about ... l, or what?


            He made friends with parashenko !!! laughing

            And I forgot the history of the idiot ... How Ushakov raped them in all poses !!!!
            1. +4
              26 November 2015 19: 06
              Quote: Persistent
              B..b, we also have to apologize to this pus?
              Just about ... l, or what?

              He made friends with parashenko !!! laughing


              Feels the inevitability of punishment. Most likely it is already in full swing.
              1. +1
                26 November 2015 19: 22
                Quote: SibBars
                Feels the inevitability of punishment.

                On the contrary, Erdogan understood very well that Russia gave slack and therefore behaves so impudently and impudently. He already realized that there would be no decent, adequate answer, and he wanted to sneeze on all economic sanctions, especially since they would hit Russia no less than Turkey.
                1. -2
                  26 November 2015 19: 32
                  I completely agree, but in the comments half of the naive people.
                2. +7
                  26 November 2015 19: 38
                  Quote: DON-100
                  On the contrary, Erdogan understood very well that Russia gave slack and therefore behaves so impudently and impudently. He already realized that there would be no decent, adequate answer, and he wanted to sneeze on all economic sanctions, especially since they would hit Russia no less than Turkey.

                  You dear, you have scratched stupidity here. If these are your thoughts, it would be better if they rested at the bottom of your conceit.
                  Only a day has passed! Smart people immediately realized that there would be no instant answer, if only because more than 10 of our citizens were resting and working in Turkey. And also, the air forces in Syria were simply not prepared for what was nearby there will be such an enemy. Now the S-000 systems will be transferred to Syria, electronic warfare systems and soon the fighter part of the airborne forces will be strengthened. But this will take time.
                  And you, like that comrade with his pants down, who runs to push, realizing that with such diarrhea he simply will not have time to run, yells and makes indecent sounds.
                  1. +6
                    26 November 2015 19: 46
                    Respected Nexus, henceforth choose expressions when communicating with people, especially since I did not hurt you. I expressed my point of view and have every right to do so. Your opinion about what I have expressed does not interest me at all.
                    1. +3
                      26 November 2015 19: 50
                      Quote: DON-100
                      Respected Nexus, henceforth choose expressions when communicating with people, especially since I did not hurt you. I expressed my point of view and have every right to do so. Your opinion about what I have expressed does not interest me at all.

                      Dear DON-100, your statement is insulting towards the dead. They have not yet been interred, but you sit and plague you with a smart look, but simply verbally. And therefore, you personally hurt me by your post. Therefore, I answered you how replied.
                      1. +8
                        26 November 2015 20: 13
                        Quote: NEXUS
                        Dear DON-100, your statement is insulting towards the dead. They have not yet been interred, but you sit and plague you with a smart look, but simply verbally. And therefore, you personally hurt me by your post. Therefore, I answered you how replied.

                        In my post there is no hint of insulting the dead, you see what you see. I mourn for them no less than any normal citizen of our country. There is no need to confuse our politicians and the military, I absolutely have no doubt in the military’s determination.
                        Wait and see, I would be glad to make a mistake, time will tell.
                      2. +1
                        26 November 2015 21: 25
                        Quote: DON-100
                        DON-100

                        you don’t understand yet, GDP, a person who doesn’t lock up on money ... this is about
                        they’ll hit Russia no less than Turkey.
                        of course he thinks about people, but for this he has rulers on the ground, he is more concerned with the face of Russia, and the situation
                        they’ll hit Russia no less than Turkey.
                        It will be a lesson for us, Russia, to build an economy so as not to fall into such ticks!
                        it will continue so that evil will devour itself! ...
                      3. Stepan stepanovich
                        +2
                        26 November 2015 21: 39
                        On the contrary, Erdogan understood very well that Russia gave slack and therefore behaves so impudently and impudently. He already realized that there would be no decent, adequate answer, and he wanted to sneeze on all economic sanctions, especially since they would hit Russia no less than Turkey.

                        NEXUS - Take off your misted glasses!
                        Where is the insult to the dead?
                        Or fall, aggravation?
                    2. -2
                      26 November 2015 20: 00
                      My cat Lexus has more brains than your Nexus. When you write a comment, you need to think with your brains and not your ass.
                    3. 0
                      26 November 2015 20: 00
                      If you took up the "pen" and in your case the keyboard, then be aware of what has been said there will be different opinions, many diametrically opposite! So no need to pretend to be touchy !!!
                    4. -1
                      26 November 2015 20: 00
                      You do not have the full right to write what you want, you do not have, no one has such a right.
                      1. +1
                        26 November 2015 21: 13
                        Quote: KaPToC
                        You do not have the full right to write what you want, you do not have, no one has such a right.

                        nickname reminded laughing
                      2. 0
                        26 November 2015 22: 08
                        Your humor is so subtle that it is not visible.
                      3. EFA
                        +1
                        26 November 2015 23: 01
                        Aptly! A plus! lol
                  2. +1
                    26 November 2015 20: 12
                    But in order to bring down another of our aircraft, the Turks will not need much time. Such an option cannot be ruled out.
                    And then what?
          4. +9
            26 November 2015 19: 12
            Quote: Persistent
            B..b, we also have to apologize to this pus?
            Just about ... l, or what?
            Here .... That's what they are waiting for such a reaction. Well, after all, the blind can see that they are clearly provoking, running into. They have already been hit below the belt by a Turkish stream and tourists. We look forward to continuing. Security officers understand such things. It's only the beginning. Good day to all.
          5. 0
            26 November 2015 22: 04
            Quote: Baikonur
            should we also apologize to this pus?

            Dear Baikonur. No need to worry so much. Everyone knows: if it does not sink, it is pumped into a cesspool machine, among other things
          6. 0
            26 November 2015 22: 41
            B..b, we also have to apologize to this pus?
            Just about ... l, or what?


            laughing You did not correctly understand the message dear! Erdogan hints at the mattresses, supposedly hinted, almost demanded, and when the job was done, they started yelling: we didn’t mean it! If he freaked out, then disentangle.

            But this is something else, the very thing will begin when the Kurds have MANPADS. For example, Armenian.
          7. 0
            26 November 2015 23: 16
            B..b, we also have to apologize to this pus?
            Just about ... l, or what?


            Well, why not so gentlemanly? as soon as the navigator was taken out, we immediately apologized - look Konoshenkov! He told the Russians in white: "Our aviation apologized continuously for eight hours, and then the Syrian army joined our apology with the help of the" apology machines "supplied by Russia. hi And if someone didn’t accept our apologies - we are a wild country, barbarians, for them we will repeat the apologies with great pleasure feel
        2. +96
          26 November 2015 18: 33
          http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/978/bumz861.png

          - "Recep runs into rudeness,
          Everyone strives to offend us "...

          In vain he did not think so. Here, we put new "pipes" for him, to begin with.
          And there may be something else to offer ...
          1. +5
            26 November 2015 18: 56
            In vain he did not think so. Here, we put new "pipes" for him, to begin with.

            Respect Valery !!!


            The request to write your name with a capital letter, and then inconvenient to read it with a small ... hi
          2. +5
            26 November 2015 18: 59
            Quote: sever.56
            In vain he was so thoughtless.

            By no means, everything is thought out, prepared, fulfilled. Acts strictly according to the "manual" - to blame everything from a sore head to a healthy one, in the best traditions of ukroimbitsilov. Therefore, they shot our pilots during the ejection so that there were no witnesses. We didn’t manage to get rid of the witnesses - nothing, all the same they will speak white in black, and they will not get used to specific questions.
        3. +42
          26 November 2015 18: 37
          For ... he (played too much) Erdogan gets confused in his testimony and this is understandable, they threw him into NATO so that now Erdogan is naked ... and NOBODY will harness for him. From the west, Turkey has a "Friend" Greece and Cyprus, from the east Turkey has "Friends" Iran and Armenia, from the south Turkey has "Friends" Syria and the Kurds, from the north / south Turkey now has a "Very Great Friend" Russia ... By the way, Erdogan did not give up to the Arabs either.

          Wait, the most NISHTIAK for Turkey will begin when all the tourists from Russia leave it ...
          1. +26
            26 November 2015 18: 46
            Quote: Now we are free
            Wait, the most NISHTIAK for Turkey will begin when all the tourists from Russia leave it ...


            well, you all attacked him .. he wants an apology - we have them for him ... The polite C400 says they have already turned around to apologize ... the navigator of the shot-down Su also asks to be left in the ranks to apologize ... the 8 hour watch there are already apologies for the videoconferencing group on the network and I think they will continue ... well, the person wants an apology .. we will be polite and we will apologize ... We have won over 39 business Turks right from the UGagro exhibition for violating the migration regime ... now it remains for small .. each of us apologize ... find a way is not a problem ... laughing
            1. +17
              26 November 2015 19: 19
              I apologize to the Fuhrer of Turkey that I never bought Turkish tomatoes, because it is a genetically modified product on hydroponics (pure chemistry) and also tasteless, I apologize for having never been to Turkey and will not even go for free, don’t, don’t call. And medicine in Turkey is the same as their bazaars. I have never seen a patient after treatment in Turkey without defects in the provision of care, whether it be a child or an adult.

              Good news: During the clashes in Syria, the brigadier general of the Syrian Free Army Rashid Baghdash was eliminated.
              This was reported by foreign media. According to available information, Baghdash from the side of the Turkish militants coordinated the actions of the Turkish military to destroy the Russian Su-24.
              Izv, it happened. It was necessary for the general to sit at home.

              1. +9
                26 November 2015 19: 24
                Quote: Balu
                -kill the general who led

                So we started - "FIND AND PURISH". I am looking forward to the "sad" news from Qatar about the sudden death of those who ordered the terrorist attack over Sinai.
              2. 0
                26 November 2015 21: 08
                I agree with you all 100. A few years ago I went to the hospital (SARS with complication) in Turkey. at home for a long time they laughed with other doctors at the actions of their doctors. having a certain relationship with medicine, I know what I'm saying.
                ps never went, always rested in Europe. girlfriend, the hostess of the travel agency, for several years persuaded for the sake of small children to go, there is paradise. was one and only time. I still don’t understand what is being so praised there. there were a million cons.)
              3. 0
                26 November 2015 22: 45
                And he, of course, was also warned 10 times that doing this is not good? lol
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          2. +3
            26 November 2015 18: 47
            and not everyone is going to leave Turkey - President of the Moscow Lokomotiv Olga Smorodskaya said that the club does not intend to refuse to hold training camps in Turkey.
            “I will not refuse fees,” said Smorodskaya
            Read more: https://eadaily.com/news/2015/11/26/lokomotiv-ne-otkazhetsya-ot-sborov-v-turcii
            1. +18
              26 November 2015 18: 52
              Quote: Leshy74
              “I will not refuse fees,” said Smorodskaya

              laughing she whistles, an order comes from above and sticks her tongue in the house and admits that she was wrong. Just TP still did not understand what garbage is unfolding in that direction
            2. +6
              26 November 2015 19: 00
              This woman is that crazy ???
            3. +11
              26 November 2015 19: 18
              Quote: Leshy74
              “I will not refuse fees,” said Smorodskaya



              Hmm ... But the Serbian team refused ...

              That’s the question for Smorodskaya - who is the greatest patriot of Russia - she, with a Russian passport (or maybe she has another citizenship?), Or Serbs, citizens of another country ???
          3. +11
            26 November 2015 18: 49
            Yes, no one threw him into NATO. Approved and supported.
            "... The Turkish authorities claim that the plane violated the country's airspace. The NATO Secretary General said yesterday that the Alliance has data confirming this version.
            The Russian Foreign Ministry has already explained that it is not worth waiting for objectivity from NATO in the situation with the downed Su-24. "
            1. +7
              26 November 2015 18: 56
              Quote: Jovanni
              Yes, no one threw him into NATO. Approved and supported.

              The black lord immediately declared that they warned, they themselves were to blame, nefig flying near the borders, etc. And Europeans - they only when they knead understand something.
              Now everyone is sitting watching the reaction, different nishtyaks have turned down from the provocation, the South Stream is likely to be curtailed, they will replace the small business business with China-business ... Germany with the Nord Stream will be twice as likely to press its southern EU colleagues.
            2. +4
              26 November 2015 19: 19
              Quote: Jovanni
              NATO Secretary General said on the eve that the Alliance has data confirming this version.



              Everything is as always ... The objective data of the Russian Defense Ministry and the Syrian air defense mean nothing to them ...
              1. +5
                26 November 2015 19: 28
                Quote: veksha50
                Everything is as always ... The objective data of the Russian Defense Ministry and the Syrian air defense mean nothing to them ...

                Remember what Churchill said (in my opinion) -He is of course a bastard, but this is our bastard. Hence the whole State Department policy.
                And there is one statement of this politician, which is perfectly applicable to Erdogan- When the eagles are silent, parrots are chatting.
                1. 0
                  27 November 2015 09: 55
                  Quote: NEXUS
                  He’s a bastard, of course, but he’s our bastard.



                  The phrase is eternal ... Roosevelt expressed it to the dictator Somosa (Nicaragua), he only had in mind the son of a dog, the other president (I don’t remember who - but just as a bastard - to Pope Duke (Duvalier - Tahiti) ... But the essence remains the same ...
          4. 0
            26 November 2015 23: 39
            I would like to add nishtyakov!
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          1. +5
            26 November 2015 18: 42
            According to Erdogan, if there will be a “new violation of the Turkish air borders”, then the country's air force will answer similar.

            Answer, as you answer, for our DRYING! am
            1. +11
              26 November 2015 18: 47
              Answer, as you answer, for our DRYING!


              Last Wednesday, a number of Turkish media outraged that in the Syrian town of Azaz, five kilometers from the border with Turkey, Russian bombers (and whose else!) Attacked a humanitarian convoy. 20 trucks were burned, 7 people were killed, 10 injured.


              Already answered ...
              unknown planes .... heh heh bombed a humanitarian convoy carrying weapons, explosives, medicines and other trifles for ISIS .... unlucky democracy fighters in SYRIA ... bummer, you know.
              1. +5
                26 November 2015 19: 00
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                unknown planes .... heh heh bombed a humanitarian convoy carrying weapons, explosives, medicines and other trifles for ISIS .... unlucky democracy fighters in SYRIA ... bummer, you know.

                It’s not good in a good way ... it would be nice to roll a Turkish plane near the border of Turkey and say that it flew into Syria ... Or a Turkish ship to drown in Syria, only these Turks will not come close to the borders - unless Baraka gives direct instructions.
              2. +5
                26 November 2015 19: 22
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                Already answered ...



                Hmm ... Almost at the same time, ours destroyed a column of oil tanks and over 500 Turkish soldiers guarding it ...

                And according to media reports, the village, the people from which scoffed and danced over the body of the Su-24 pilot, has already been wiped off the face of the earth ...
                1. -2
                  26 November 2015 19: 53
                  The representative of the Ministry of Defense also denied information about the destruction of humanitarian aid convoy from Turkey by Russian airstrikes in Syria. Konashenkov called reports of this "informational stuffing." It was reported that the planes of the Russian Air Force attacked a convoy with humanitarian aid, 7 people were killed, at least 10 wounded.

                  what But ...
                  1. 0
                    27 November 2015 09: 58
                    Quote: The same LYOKHA
                    But ...



                    Not "however," but these are different things... Gumkonvoy was destroyed in the border town, forgot its name, there were only about 20 cars there ...

                    But the column of oil tanks was destroyed on the march ...

                    PS All this - and humconvoy, and the column, and the village - were destroyed on the same day ...
              3. +6
                26 November 2015 20: 03
                Quote: The same LYOKHA
                Already answered ...

                in Sarmada next to the # Turkey- # Syria border is now "fun".



                Heavy Russian Airstrikes on Sarmada Near Turkey-Syria Border Area

                I won’t be surprised if General Rashid Baghdash:


                went to shaitan

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        6. +16
          26 November 2015 18: 43
          Quote: oleg-gr
          The Turkish "sultan" runs into rudeness. It can be seen that the uncles behind him have promised a lot or are holding onto the Faberge well. They will only throw it when they pin it.

          It is evident time to satisfy the request of Cyprus for a military base. And just do your duty to protect the territory of Cyprus. And the Greeks begin to shoot down Turkish planes, just doing their duty.
          1. +1
            26 November 2015 19: 25
            Quote: Wend
            Yes, and the Greeks begin to shoot down Turkish planes,



            Well, all Greeks, Greeks ... We must not forget that both these countries - Greece and Turkey, which are antagonists of each other and hate each other fiercely, are members of NATO ...

            So to speak, "love" embrace with a shiver of hatred for each other ...

            Correctly someone in his comment said: if the Greeks shot down every Turkish plane flying into their territory, then the Turkish Air Force would have only paper planes made by schoolchildren ...
            1. +1
              26 November 2015 20: 49
              Is the Republic of Cyprus also a member of NATO?
              1. 0
                27 November 2015 10: 02
                Quote: housewife
                Is the Republic of Cyprus also a member of NATO?



                Read the question I commented on again ...
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        7. +6
          26 November 2015 18: 52
          Erdogan: If someone should apologize, then definitely not we ...

          If so cool make the "smoked" apologize !!! And blah blah nefig ...
        8. +6
          26 November 2015 19: 20
          The Turkish "sultan" runs into rudeness.


          Eh, Erdogash, even though you are Scum, but you just know what? Go, nessa in the eyes of our government. They will endure where they go. Gas stations and refineries "Lukoil", national treasure "Gazprom", retail chains and tourist businesses, nuclear power plants and so on in little detail.
          How do they do it? Get lost. Ah, the rating? Yes, they will come up with something "victorious". They are hucksters, do not drift, Sultan. Brezhnev was the last soldier, so he died.
          Tfu, I’m ashamed to watch TV ....
        9. 0
          26 November 2015 20: 59
          Quote: oleg-gr
          The Turkish "sultan" runs into rudeness.


          Let this Turkish sultan re-read letters to his ancestors ...
        10. 0
          26 November 2015 21: 59
          Quote: oleg-gr
          The Turkish "sultan" runs into rudeness. It can be seen that the uncles behind him have promised a lot or are holding onto the Faberge well. They will only throw it when they pin it.

          the trouble is that Erdogan is a fool does not understand this ..... as they say, "he learns from his mistakes and the smart one from strangers"
        11. +1
          27 November 2015 00: 32
          If someone does not want to apologize, well, then let him apologize: he asked for it! angry
        12. 0
          27 November 2015 05: 35
          hang ...
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      3. +26
        26 November 2015 18: 32
        Erdogan: If someone should apologize, then definitely not we ...

        But he is right. This is not a mistake, but a deliberate act of aggression. So why apologize, and who the hell needs his apology. They do not apologize for this, but pay. (from the word crying)
      4. +2
        26 November 2015 18: 35
        What a formidable sultan. fellow
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      6. +7
        26 November 2015 18: 44
        Simple practice. the mattresses again threw another six at the barricades. The remaining six are thrilled.

        When next year the Turkish business does not count several million of our tourists ... He will be imprisoned !!!! And they will be right. You can not be rude to those who feed you !! Better shoot your prime minister who gave the order to kill our guys ...

        Complement ..

        Russia decided to apply global sanctions to Turkey, immediately depriving Ankara of a significant part of GDP against the background of the crisis in the Turkish economy. Russia will close all Turkish projects, ask the Turks “home”, and also close markets, sky and ports.

        Oh, and the Turks will cost you the death of the Russian Officer !!!!
      7. +16
        26 November 2015 18: 50
        Quote: Enot_33
        Simple practice. the mattresses again threw another six at the barricades.
        Turkey has always been used by Britain against Russia, now the overseas miscarriage of Britain, the United States, began to use the Turks. To play off, substitute, fight with someone else's hands, in this vile tribe of Anglo-Saxons there are long-time masters. The states need a conflict, and the Turks have begun to do their job here, to present Russia as the aggressor (now, most likely, the Turks will already try to substitute their planes, especially since we have announced the suppression of threats, there will be Turkish pilots - "martyrs", and again the blame Russia). We still have problems with Bandera that are waiting in the wings in the former Ukraine, and if Turkey gets a reason to close the straits, even restrict the passage of our ships, this may immediately coincide with the beginning of the resumption of hostilities in the Donbass, and provocations against Crimea (not excluding armed). Actually, the fact that the States brazenly climbed into Ukraine, the events in Syria, everything is against Russia, for the sake of this everything was started. We'll have to dot the "i", solve a long-standing problem ...
        1. +1
          26 November 2015 19: 21
          This, in my opinion, is the most offensive - they won’t give us a peaceful life. As soon as ours do not try to delay (prevent) a possible conflict with NATO, we do not swallow the provocations and banter in our address (they, they take it for weakness). The campaign cannot avoid the worst, no matter how hard we try, they are swollen to the edge !!! And my wife and I want a child ... as now ...
          1. 0
            26 November 2015 20: 54
            In our country, there are rarely calm years. Now refuse children, or what? We already have a very small population.
      8. +4
        26 November 2015 18: 52
        Quote: Enot_33
        Simple practice. the mattresses again threw another six at the barricades. The remaining six are thrilled.

        and if we glaze the six, the remaining six will be * bricks faster than the owner or slower?
      9. +7
        26 November 2015 18: 58
        Quote: Enot_33
        Simple practice. the mattresses again threw another six at the barricades. The remaining six are thrilled.

        The best defense is an attack. Observe a small, vicious nasty mongrel ... it bends, barks, but its tail runs up to the chest and shakes all over. This rat behaves like that.
        I will be very curious to listen to this geek when they begin to bring down his planes, when they completely block the flow of gratuitous oil from Syria, when the Russian embargo on everything Turkish begins to affect the Turks and their income, as well as when Turkish tourism begins to suffer losses. they will hang their own for a causal place.
      10. +3
        26 November 2015 19: 06
        Quote: Enot_33
        Simple practice. mattresses again threw another six on the barricades

        Yes, it seems here or it just seems to me that here is somewhat different - Erdogan decided for some reason that he is a poker player and can cover everything on his own, and the United States is now sort of slowly exhaling after a deep sigh of surprise, as well as calculating than that it will end, by Turkey alone or they will be hooked too.
      11. +1
        26 November 2015 19: 28
        Naive, Erdogan Six? Cancer Turks have bent over the whole Middle East and part of Europe, they do what they want, when they want and where they want! Everything was planned in advance to report to the igil, we are not afraid of the Russians, we will protect you. They also need to report to business partners!
      12. +1
        26 November 2015 20: 27
        Quote: Enot_33
        Simple practice. the mattresses again threw another six at the barricades. The remaining six are thrilled.

        This is the height of cynicism. After such words, the attitude towards this "undersultan" should be adequate.
      13. +3
        26 November 2015 20: 38
        Not so simple . Americans are extremely concerned about Turkey’s Islamist metamorphosis. Another thing is that Obama is too weak a president to replace Perdogan, who has gone too far.
        1. +1
          26 November 2015 21: 18
          Do you think everything is decided by the president? Does he not represent the interests of a certain political force?
          1. +1
            26 November 2015 21: 58
            Not all, but a lot. All Republicans and many Democrats are shocked by Obama, but nothing can be done. To endure for them (and us) for another whole year ...
      14. +1
        26 November 2015 21: 38
        They are officially six-G 7, of the seven Obama / and the remaining six are Obama.
      15. 0
        26 November 2015 21: 57
        Quote: Enot_33
        Simple practice. the mattresses again threw another six at the barricades. The remaining six are thrilled.

        All these six mattresses just take advantage of, and then freebie loot for cheap oil suddenly breaks off? As an excuse for the Turks, only this phrase has to be said. Block the entire Syrian border with the Turks and neither you need oil and arms supplies, together with manpower, to I think provocations at the border will continue in the future, but this is my personal opinion.
      16. 0
        26 November 2015 23: 24
        I look at this Turk completely baked, since he makes such statements, I propose to provide the Greeks with good air defense, then let the Turks apologize to them for violating the airspace am wassat bully
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    2. +17
      26 November 2015 18: 27
      Medvedev: From December 30, we completely terminate trade relations with Turkey.
      Ulyukaev: We still need to stop the communication with Turkey ...
      1. +22
        26 November 2015 18: 32
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Medvedev: From December 30, we completely terminate trade relations with Turkey.
        Ulyukaev: We still need to stop the communication with Turkey ...

        The bear and Ulukay were the only once in their lives who expressed smart thoughts, but first, 10000 potential hostages must be taken out of Turkey.
        1. +9
          26 November 2015 19: 00
          Potential hostages? You won’t lure these puzogreys from there. In KP there was an article - for a month people are resting there. Then the problems will begin - the Ministry of Emergency Situations will take them out at our expense (and there are about 7000 of them). And what-for everything paid -TAGIIIL !.
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        3. +2
          26 November 2015 19: 04
          About the hostages. If anything, you need to act like a Mossad ... Quickly, brazenly, on the territory of the enemy, do not take prisoners ...
      2. +7
        26 November 2015 18: 39
        Our politicians waggle their tongues much ... stop when - thank you say. And their self-promotion is of no interest to anyone
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      4. +23
        26 November 2015 18: 41
        I have a medical question ... did Medvedev have a brain implanted or eggs sewn?
        1. +4
          26 November 2015 18: 51
          Quote: 3axap82
          Was Medvedev implanted with a brain or eggs were sewn?


          The leader promised that he would not allow it if someone offended women and children ...
          1. 0
            26 November 2015 19: 04
            Well, everything can now be offended (to resign and work on the truck)))
        2. +2
          26 November 2015 18: 58
          Quote: 3axap82
          I have a medical question ... did Medvedev have a brain implanted or eggs sewn?

          and 08.08.08 what they sewed him? Although no one likes the bear, it’s definitely not so simple ...
          1. +6
            26 November 2015 19: 03
            08.08.08 I was unloved by the prime minister, Putin, he ruined everything and we must pay tribute, he is a big and serious man.
            1. 0
              26 November 2015 19: 06
              Quote: 3axap82
              08.08.08 I was unloved by the prime minister, Putin, he ruined everything and we must pay tribute, he is a big and serious man.

              who then made the final decision we do not know ...
              Moreover, Medvedev has repeatedly proved that a man is serious and touchy (despite his pretty appearance) ...
              1. 0
                26 November 2015 19: 38
                Putin - St. Petersburg; Medvedev-Mordorsky))) Seriously, then ...
                Your position is worthy of respect, consistently protect the person.
                1. 0
                  27 November 2015 10: 16
                  Quote: 3axap82
                  Putin - St. Petersburg; Medvedev-Mordorsky))) Seriously, then ...
                  Your position is worthy of respect, consistently protect the person.

                  not that I defend him ... I really can’t stand the bear, he reminds me of a rooster, but his fierce criticism is the stupidity of pure water, because we really do not know what happened then and in what conditions it works now ...
                  1. 0
                    27 November 2015 11: 25
                    I hasten to laugh at him, otherwise I would have to cry. Pierre Augustin Petrosyan ... Beaumarchais.)))
        3. +2
          26 November 2015 19: 05
          Quote: 3axap82
          I have a medical question ... did Medvedev have a brain implanted or eggs sewn?

          Neither one nor the other ... his male reproductive organ suddenly grew. hi
          1. +2
            26 November 2015 19: 41
            Well then, we are waiting for the crown prime minister!)))
        4. +1
          26 November 2015 19: 24
          Quote: 3axap82
          I have a medical question ... did Medvedev have a brain implanted or eggs sewn?

          Please specify the question, the brain in the scrotum or eggs to the brain? Otherwise, you will not find the answer even among the luminaries of medicine. request
      5. +2
        26 November 2015 19: 29
        Quote: Sith Lord
        Medvedev: S 30 December we completely terminate trade relations with Turkey.


        Question: why since December 30, and not yesterday ???
        1. +2
          26 November 2015 19: 43
          Russo Turisto must be taken out. And then this indignant oriental and hot, without profit EREKTorat will still begin street pogroms.
    3. +13
      26 November 2015 18: 27
      Turkish general leading a special operation to destroy a Russian plane killed

      In Turkey, killed the general who led the special operation to destroy the Su-24
      Photo: Pixabay
      NEWS FROM THE PLOT:
      Russian-Turkish relations after the destruction of the aircraft in Syria
      ALL NEWS OF THE PLOT
      General Rashid Baghdash, who coordinated the special operation to destroy the Russian Su-24, was killed.

      The death of the military was reported by the Moscow Talking radio, citing News-Front. No further details of what happened. It is noted that this information has not yet been confirmed.

      Earlier it was reported that the militants who shot the Su-24 pilots could be Turkish nationalists.
      1. +22
        26 November 2015 18: 40
        In Syria, a special operation began to return the body of the killed pilot Su-24
        To bury Oleg Peshkov at home, all channels will be involved - both military and diplomatic

        Today at 17: 15, views: 19427
        181472
        To the Lipetsk air center, the townspeople carry candles and flowers. At the entrance there is a photograph of the dead Su-24 pilot Oleg Peshkov. According to some reports, the lieutenant colonel was killed in the air when he catapulted, according to others - he was shot by Islamists already on the ground. To bury a pilot in his homeland, to take his body from the terrorists is a matter of honor for Oleg’s military comrades.

        photo: Gennady Cherkasov
        A terrible video appeared on the network in which armed bearded men shout “Allahu Akbar” near the disfigured body of the deceased pilot. This video mocking the body of a Russian officer appeared on the Internet a few hours after the tragedy. The Russian Foreign Ministry demanded that Turkey explain those who mocked the body.

        It is already known that the Turkish neo-fascist who fought on the side of the Turkoman called himself a murderer.

        "None of these" moderate oppositionists "from the" Turkoman Brigade "will now get away from retaliation, they are now known in person," say the pilot’s colleagues.

        In honor of the Hero of Russia Oleg Peshkov, they are going to name one of the streets of Lipetsk. His body is sought (the savages have set their own terms - so that their accomplices are released from Syrian prisons). We talked with military pilots and experts about the chances that the deceased pilot will be returned to their homeland, what forces will be involved for this.

        Photo: rusvesna.ru
        “We always fight not only for the living, but also for the bodies of dead soldiers to be returned to their homeland and buried with military honors,” said Valery Burkov, military pilot, Hero of the Soviet Union, president of the Heroes of the Fatherland Foundation. - Here the principle applies: die yourself, and help a comrade. And whether he is alive or killed, it no longer matters.

        In Afghanistan, we had a situation where commandos landed on a caravan search, five fighters were cut off from the group. Surrounded by an unequal battle with a whole horde of Dushmans.

        We were raised on alarm, then I was at the army headquarters, they were transferred by helicopters with a group of air gunners to Jalalabad. We flew to a given area, found our fighters, they were all killed. Fight to the last bullet. To take their bodies, a whole special operation was carried out, during which there were losses, but we took all our guys from the pass.

        Moreover, leaving Afghanistan, we took with us many obelisks that were installed at the site of the death of our soldiers.

        - To pick up the dead pilot, both military channels and diplomatic ones will be involved. A special operation is being conducted in which our and Syrian special forces are taking part. For Russia, it’s a matter of honor to return the deceased pilot to the homeland, ”says Colonel Gennady Bakulin, Honored Military Pilot of the Russian Federation.
        1. +9
          26 November 2015 19: 02
          In the crash zone of the Russian Su-24 bomber in Syria, three militants were eliminated during the fighting. Two of them are identified as Abu Basir al-Britani (a British who fought for the Al-Nusra Front) and Abu Salim, who led the rebel First Coastal Division.
        2. 0
          26 November 2015 21: 04
          And, excuse me, is there anything to take from anyone? It is unlikely that they took the body somewhere. And there our rockets ground everything and everyone. Perhaps no longer find it. crying crying
      2. +13
        26 November 2015 18: 51
        Quote: kimyth1
        General Rashid Baghdash, who coordinated the special operation to destroy the Russian Su-24, was killed.


        But this is very similar to covering the president and prime minister.
        Fortunately, the overwhelming majority of army men have long felt their attitude to the army in their own skin.

        Hence the questions - how long to wait for a military coup and whether or not the current rulers of minds and souls in Turkey will hang in boots or not
        1. +3
          26 November 2015 19: 35
          Quote: ROSS_Ulair
          But this is very similar to the traces of the president and the prime minister.



          And I would, frankly, be glad if our special services did this ...
    4. +12
      26 November 2015 18: 28
      Quote: RUS96
      Here is the dinda.

      That he has been known to everyone for a long time and to everyone, but the main chiefs are sitting in Fashington and pushing such nits like Poroshenko, baldons and other slaves to spoil Russia than is possible and impossible.
      1. +6
        26 November 2015 18: 33
        This is a blow not in the back, but in the face. He wanted to pit Nato and Russia, and to deal with the Kurds under the guise.
    5. +13
      26 November 2015 18: 32
      Quote: RUS96
      Here r0 *** n.


      Probably such people already have nothing human in their souls; they have an empty and callous soul. . . he doesn’t even think about where his soul will go. . . just a rotten man, dead.
      1. +2
        26 November 2015 18: 44
        Downed intentionally, you need to punish for it. Do not want to make contact means guilty.
    6. +14
      26 November 2015 18: 46
      ... "No" Syrian Turkmens "took part in the attack on our pilots. Our pilots, parachuting from a downed bomber, were shot by ultra-right Turkish neo-fascists, Turkish citizens howling in Syria."

      http://ntv.livejournal.com/426110.html

      #RemoveKebab
    7. +4
      26 November 2015 18: 48
      Quote: RUS96
      Here r0 *** n.


      Didn't you know?
      Here, 2010, listen, enjoy:
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZXfxvaBXgg
      (Bagdasarov about Turkey in general and about Erdogan in particular)
    8. +3
      26 November 2015 18: 55
      Quote: RUS96
      Here r0 *** n.

      -----------------
      po.don.ok he ... and his patrons are the same ..
    9. +1
      26 November 2015 18: 57
      And where is the prefix - full of holes?
      Forgot your Turkish Pasha’s full name? Oh no no no! Not good... wink
    10. +2
      26 November 2015 18: 57
      Erdogan had in mind the United States and Obama personally.
    11. 0
      26 November 2015 19: 16
      With this it is useless to conduct any negotiations. just like "independent" k * count
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    13. 0
      26 November 2015 19: 29
      I have an idea that they are substituting it for the most part. Now the result will be Russian sanctions, constantly being twisted, free oil ends, ordinary Turks will start to howl, then Europe will begin to return refugees and, as a result, a revolution !!! And the revolution near the Russian borders is just what we need !!! And it’s perfectly clear who needs it !!! Namely, it is necessary (with the aim of helping the people of Turkey) to introduce their ships into the Black Sea !!!! Guys - everything is transparent - a year is left for him - maximum !!! You can’t even do anything !!! And most importantly they will say later - see Russians how we helped you !!!!!!!! further only obscene .....
    14. 0
      26 November 2015 19: 43
      Turks understand only the language of power (C) Suvorov.
    15. +2
      26 November 2015 19: 45
      To demand an apology from Erdogan for the downed Russian SU-24 is a big mistake.
      This is the same as asking the SS Sonderkommando to apologize for the burnt Russian or Belarusian village along with all the residents.
      Russia, with its attacks on convoys of oil trucks moving towards Turkey, has made a deadly enemy in the person of Erdogan.
      Not only did Turkey’s dream of partitioning Syria after Russian intervention failed, along with plans to remove President Assad, the foundation for the financial well-being of both Turkey itself and the Erdogan family was further destroyed.
      Now, only Russia's toughest stance towards Turkey, right up to the destruction of any aircraft, surface or submarine vessel or manpower invading Syrian territory, will be the best response to the behavior of an arrogant Turkish mad dog.
      1. +1
        26 November 2015 19: 59
        Turkey has always, always been the enemy! Opponent No. 1 at their general staff was Russia, we are to blame ourselves for not supporting the Greeks at one time! Chechen fighters where licked wounds? The toughest policy of Russia to equip the Kurds with armata tanks, cover them with air from the air and not otherwise, we will get the Caucasian wars anyway, it is better in Turkey. I am sure Iran will support.
        1. 0
          26 November 2015 23: 48
          Just small arms of different calibers, grenade launchers, anti-tank missiles and man-portable ammunition in limited numbers!
    16. +3
      26 November 2015 19: 56
      what nonsense, who demands an apology? and how can you apologize for death and death intentionally and calmly executed? Russia needs to pay death for death with Turkey.
    17. +2
      26 November 2015 20: 49
      Heinrich Firbrücher "What the Kaiser's government hid from German subjects: Armenia 1915"

      p 25

      "The Turkish soldier was the most pitiful slave of militarism. By the will of fate, being ill-mannered and loyal, he walked, expelled by blows from huts and barracks. Where he walked, he did not think. Reasoning in the Turkish army was considered a greater crime than in the German army. ... A Turkish soldier was beaten like cattle, his family was starving. Dressed in rags, mostly barefoot, sometimes his legs wrapped in rags ... he was sick from ... typhus, cholera, smallpox, malaria ... "

      p 33

      "The Turkish people are not a cultured people in the broad sense of the word. Its language is at the level of a Negro idiom, but it is an incomparable language for a recruiting drill. Literature and speech are out of the question; what has been done in this area is partly a questionable copying from a large hoard In addition, Turkish writers used the so-called language of the educated, which by its bombast is incomprehensible to any ordinary Turk. The Turks never had their own architecture. They simply destroyed what was left of the bygone times. Hagia Sophia, the Ommayad Mosque) or erected by Christian architects who served with the Sultan. Science has no place on Turkish soil. A Turk is only capable of imitation and that is in the most superficial way, he cannot be truly creative in any spiritual field .. . "



      Adam Metz "Muslim Renaissance"

      A huge compilation of Arabic sources by a Swiss orientalist. It covers from the XNUMXth to the XNUMXth centuries and contains a wealth of information collected by chapters. For example, "Slaves":
      "From the instructions on buying a good slave" by Ibn Butlan (XI century)

      "The price of white slaves especially rose in the 10th century, when, due to defeats on the western border, an important source of obtaining white slaves - Byzantium and Armenia almost completely dried up ... In the rest of the empire, the category of white slaves was limited to the Turks and ... Slavs. higher than the Türks. "If there is no Slav, then they take a Türk into the service," said al-Khvarizmi. "
      Turks have an honorable second place. By the way, in the same place Armenians were described as bad slaves. Well, slaves are no good among us, what to do.
    18. 0
      26 November 2015 21: 10
      Quote: RUS96
      Here r0 *** n.

      +
      But in Davos in 2014 he "sang" quite differently to Peres.




      Threat I liked Mitya’s comment, very (about both)



      =========================================================== ===
      However, this is the same wink
    19. 0
      26 November 2015 22: 34
      ppidorg probably ................
  2. +12
    26 November 2015 18: 25
    Uh, Turkish rat. I wish I could insert something like "But at the same time we regret the loss of the pilot." No, after all.
    1. +4
      26 November 2015 18: 58
      Filths never regret anything for the time being, then they are very liquid spoilers.
      1. +2
        26 November 2015 19: 13
        News feeds :
        "On the border with Turkey, a convoy going to Syria was destroyed. What was in the trucks?"
        That's the whole essence of Perdogan’s falsehood.
        1. +7
          26 November 2015 19: 22
          The Turkish humanitarian convoy crossed the border with Syria and entered the territory for 19 seconds, "The convoy was warned at least 10 times visually and 2 times on the Maya radio. But the drivers did not answer and FABs flew into the asses of the trucks. Putin confirmed that the Russian Federation was protecting the borders of Syria, because the trucks threatened the civilians of Syria.All the drivers managed to eject, but almost all of them were shot in the air by Kadirmeny, one survived and was delivered personally to Erdogan, he was awarded a medal for Courage and Hero of Turkey
  3. +13
    26 November 2015 18: 25
    Let it act. I want to see how the Turkish birds will fall from our S-400 and S-300. No wonder they developed it.
    1. +6
      26 November 2015 18: 40
      Quote: Expendable
      Let it act. I want to see how the Turkish birds will fall from our S-400 and S-300. No wonder they developed it.

      I also want, not only because of revenge, but also because of colleagues on the site from Israel. They constantly say that it is not known how they will prove themselves in the combat situation of the C 300. In addition to firing range, the world knows nothing about them. Maybe they are not as good as you talk about them.
      1. 0
        26 November 2015 19: 55
        But the whole world knows and appreciates the work of Iron Kumpola Domes. Even Canadians pecked at a Jewish divorce and became interested in this child prodigy ... See in Canada a forecast for an abundant pipe fall. To know the forecast for sewer or water pipes?
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  5. +4
    26 November 2015 18: 25
    All right says Endorgan. In any case, he accurately repeats what he was whispered across the ocean ...
    1. 0
      26 November 2015 20: 04
      Which ocean? Istanbul is the cuisine of Middle East politics; they shouldn’t be asked for advice; do not have illusions that they whispered across the ocean, the Russians knocked out such pieces of territories that they hate us at the genetic level more purely than Nokhchi and Bander!
  6. +13
    26 November 2015 18: 25
    pidorg he (people) the country is the same (( fool
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  9. +2
    26 November 2015 18: 28
    it is necessary to bring down its owners and aircraft carriers to drown them
  10. +4
    26 November 2015 18: 28
    Just the old man's roof slid off. Complete inadequate. He and Poroshenko see something the same insert
  11. +52
    26 November 2015 18: 28
    Your dog’s daughter Erdogan!
    1. +6
      26 November 2015 18: 39
      Strong poster!
      1. +4
        26 November 2015 19: 55
        Yes. I was hooked too.
  12. +4
    26 November 2015 18: 28
    Well there is no way. Why apologize there. Crap crap - now apology will not affect the severity of punishment. Unless Erdogash’s lap crawls from Sheremetyevo to the Spasskaya Tower.
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    2. gjv
      +5
      26 November 2015 18: 52
      Do not need his knees in Sheremetyevo!
      Hang it at the gates of Istanbul!
    3. +3
      26 November 2015 19: 40
      You look at the links about S.A. Bagdasarov, look still worse than he predicted. Turks are outright enemies! Live igil your turkey. And Erdogan is a fascist and a murderer!
  13. +25
    26 November 2015 18: 28
    At the same time, the Turkish president announced that Turkey will continue to act in the same way. According to Erdogan, if “a new violation of the air borders of Turkey” takes place, the Air Forces of the country will respond in the same way.

    A vivid example is contagious.

    Greece can now calmly shoot down Turkish planes flying every month into its space ...
    CYPRUS..
    SYRIA finally ...
    And we can connect ... a Turkish plane flies to SYRIA for a couple of seconds ... knock down and make innocent eyes .... and what are we request all according to the rules of ERDOGAN.
    1. +10
      26 November 2015 18: 53
      Quote: The same Lech
      At the same time, the Turkish president announced that Turkey will continue to act in the same way. According to Erdogan, if “a new violation of the air borders of Turkey” takes place, the Air Forces of the country will respond in the same way.

      A vivid example is contagious.

      Greece can now calmly shoot down Turkish planes flying every month into its space ...
      CYPRUS..
      SYRIA finally ...

      The Syrians shot down a Turkish Phantom in 2012, this is what Erdogan said then:
  14. +5
    26 November 2015 18: 28
    blood. blood. the Pentagon litter wants blood.
  15. +10
    26 November 2015 18: 28
    To the wall ..... to the wall ...... nothing to talk about ....
  16. +8
    26 November 2015 18: 28
    Turkish pad_al and how the land wears this scum I hope to see his head in the hands of one of the barmalei on the air. This is the only thing he deserves.
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    1. +1
      26 November 2015 19: 32
      The most specific comment on this topic!
  18. +1
    26 November 2015 18: 30
    Everyone will be rewarded according to their desires!
    sorry not right away ...
    chop off the Ottomans all that is possible!
    The only thing that can come to our side is the overlap of the Bosphorus ... well, and something else hi
    1. +3
      26 November 2015 18: 39
      overlapping the Bosphorus. - this is a full-fledged war - this will not happen - then Russia will respond military and tough
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    1. +4
      26 November 2015 18: 36
      "The dog is angry, the cat is generally d eb and l, and the chain is American" ?!
  20. +5
    26 November 2015 18: 31
    He imagines himself Suleiman the Magnificent? After such a statement, it’s time for Russia not only to patrol the Syrian border, but also provoke a violation by the turbulents and their subsequent destruction!
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  22. +2
    26 November 2015 18: 31
    from a gray-haired horse ... well, what a brazen guy ... What kind of balls, by God! I’m wondering, now at the KP the news - the Russian-Turkish summit, it turns out, has not been canceled here, in St. Petersburg in mid-December. Will he come? If so, we will arrange a "meeting on the Elbe" for him here. , tfu!
  23. +7
    26 November 2015 18: 31
    Grunt (EF-18) vs. Grunt (C-400). Americans send EF-18 to Turkey to suppress our S-400. The names of both systems are the same. I put on the S-400
  24. +8
    26 November 2015 18: 31
    Well, here's the answer to the question of who is who. And some write articles about the cost of a volley of calibers and Onishchenko’s students. Onishchenko’s rights finance domestic production.
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    1. +15
      26 November 2015 18: 44
      This is what I do not understand, so our tourists in Turkey today.
      What place do they think?
      The situation is extraordinary, one must feet in hands and, before it is too late, and to the airport.
      I will not speak about the category of vacationers, but they are not exactly friends with their heads.
      1. +3
        26 November 2015 19: 13
        Warmed up by z.o.p. and beer belly, bl ... b ....
    2. +4
      26 November 2015 18: 50
      I chose "call a friend" - he said "to Govnutsiya". And there is no such answer ... what to do?
      1. 0
        26 November 2015 21: 18
        Try prostitution. There is no name for us, Ukraine, and only a tour ... whatever ... there shouldn’t be at all. They definitely captured this place, like America's tramps. There, all parts of the country belonged to someone before. Armenians, Greeks, Bulgarians, etc. Us wassat straits, the rest - return to the owners.
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    3. -1
      26 November 2015 20: 12
      Erdogan, himself a terrorist and a "friend" of Putin and Assad, but before when Bagdasarov explained who he was and that he did not believe anyone, but now everyone was convinced! And these angry comments are killing me before, when the students came out to protest, the cry of America set up - Erdogan hold on, Gulen is an American spy out of Turkey, and now it's the other way around?
  26. +9
    26 November 2015 18: 34
    Turkish suburban seams are the very place on the hanger - with a rope loop around his neck, and now let him shove his apologies deeper! SDOCH.E.T. like a dog under the fence when it becomes unnecessary! am
    1. +5
      26 November 2015 19: 07
      ERDOGAN WILL ALREADY HELP NO NEITHER NATO BLOCK, NO LORD GOD - SATANOVSKY

      The president of the Institute of the Middle East, Evgeny Satanovsky, told Zvezda his point of view on the tragedy with the Russian Su-24. In his opinion, Russia and Turkey under no circumstances will be able to continue the previous relationship.

      “Erdogan apparently forgot that for such actions Turkey for 400 years has lost a significant part of its territory and that fragment that he controls today remains from her.

      We still have to get involved in serious hostilities. The question is how to conduct them, minimizing our losses and achieving results, the results of which we will be afraid to touch.

      Today it is completely clear that Turkey is doing everything to save the terrorists of the Islamic State and other groups. They will be accompanied by our fighters, and any attempt to attack them will occur accordingly.

      It is impossible to hope for Turkey and consider it in any matters as a friendly ally under any circumstances. This means that the project for the construction of nuclear power plants at the expense of Russian $ 20 billion should be discontinued.

      The idea of ​​the Turkish stream, which allows the Turks to blackmail us brazenly, should be closed. It is enough that today the energy balance of Europe is flying downhill.

      And this is after the Turks, namely the Turks, arranged for them a refugee crisis. It is possible that they are behind the terrorist attacks in Paris.

      Normalization of relations may depend on Mr. Erdogan’s understanding that he may turn out to be not an Ataman sultan, but a man who will destroy a country whose construction of economy and positioning in the world he has devoted so much to the world.

      Erdogan must have an understanding that neither the Lord God nor the NATO bloc can help him, ”Satanovsky said.
  27. +8
    26 November 2015 18: 35
    We will never forgive the death of a pilot and a marine. And this is the point.
  28. +4
    26 November 2015 18: 35
    Fell the Turkish parrots, and do not give an apology. Do we need their apologies? We need their blood.
  29. +6
    26 November 2015 18: 35
    Mattress makers failed to engage Russia in the war in Ukraine - now they are trying in the Middle East - oh, how we interfere with them in their "world order"
  30. +4
    26 November 2015 18: 35
    Syria is beginning to be torn to pieces. They began to pillar the territory, the Americans climb into oil fields, such as with the Kurds. The Turks leave for themselves the borderland. Assad will remain the coast. The Turkish sultan is inadequate and will start a war at any moment, I hope our people understand this and are preparing for it. We will be alone against all
  31. Hiw
    +6
    26 November 2015 18: 36
    but you don’t need to waste your nerves on this Erdogan, you need to act economically, which by the way is the most painful for him, both politically and at the front. And economically it is necessary to personally derail his business, and his son, too, to ruin.
  32. +17
    26 November 2015 18: 36
    The bleating of this hypocrite already resembles a hysterical jerk before an early reckoning.
  33. +2
    26 November 2015 18: 39
    Erdogan: If someone should apologize, then definitely not we ...


    He’s cattle, it’s clear, but are we going to bother again? Find a thousand excuses and leave everything as it is? recourseThe main thing is not to leave it unpunished angry
  34. +1
    26 November 2015 18: 39
    It is better to lose a day then fly in 5 minutes. This in the sense of waiting until deployed the S-400 complex and block the airspace of Syria.
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  36. +2
    26 November 2015 18: 39
    This is an open declaration of war !!!
  37. +5
    26 November 2015 18: 40
    Into his camera! Sweaty homosexual Armenians of their nation for three days without unbending! Maybe then I would think!
    1. +4
      26 November 2015 18: 45
      At the expense of the Armenians, this was well thought out))) he certainly will not have problems with food, the Armenians will feed))) but the hoof will discourage heavy bleeding from the anus))))
  38. +9
    26 November 2015 18: 40
    This mantra about violating the border of Turkey must have been planted deeply somewhere, they directly believe in it. Maybe everything is simple? Maybe these guys have already divided the territory of Syria among themselves and Erdogan thinks that there is his territory, hence the bubbling of border violations. Assad should be helped to remind others that Syria has the right to protect its airspace, and along with the Cypriots, Iranians, Iraqis
    1. 0
      26 November 2015 20: 29
      They don’t think, but are sure where the grave of Suleiman Shah is! Turks will remain Turks.
  39. +22
    26 November 2015 18: 41
    Erdogan: If someone should apologize, then definitely not we ...
    The conversation is still ahead ..
    1. +10
      26 November 2015 18: 47
      In Turkey, a children's horror story is still in use - you won’t obey, an evil Urus will come and put you in a bag ... like we have about a granny, but it’s significant.
  40. +5
    26 November 2015 18: 41
    Erdogan on CNN (and now this person is giving an interview to a variety of media with amazing activity, trying to shift the blame and problems from a sore head to healthy according to the method of P. Poroshenko):

    Incidentally, a very effective method. Most ordinary people around the world believe them ...
  41. -14
    26 November 2015 18: 41
    Dear site administration. Maybe turn off the possibility of commenting for articles on relations between Russia and Turkey. I understand the righteous anger of readers, but ... Something reminds me of another site, sometimes mentioned on VO.

    Not in the subject, but somewhere nearby. I am not a psychologist, but I think that the absence of restraining factors in network communication will certainly lead to a deformation of consciousness. This is especially true for fragile minds.
    As an example, if a person is used to eating and champing at home (no one sees, no one stops), then sooner or later the restaurant will start.
    1. +2
      26 November 2015 19: 00
      Polite people - they are not only different in equipment.
      1. 0
        27 November 2015 00: 09
        Polite people - they are not only different in equipment.
        A good memory and intolerance of enemies is also not bad to differ.
    2. +5
      26 November 2015 19: 21
      Dear Tasha! In the news section of Mail.ru, the ability to comment on readers is disabled. There is the same news as here. Read the news on Mail.ru, and it will be good for you !!!
      I also add that the forum users write on VO almost without grammatical errors, without hysteria and wild appeals in the style of the censor you mentioned, which gives me a guarantee of communication with competent and adequate people.
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      1. 0
        26 November 2015 19: 30
        At one time, the VO site interested me in that among the comments came across very useful information for me, sound and competent. Therefore, I am reviewing comments on many articles and news.
        It happens like this - you start reading a book and you understand that you can’t read further - it’s muddying. You go to another site (which they don’t talk about :)) - there it is right there. And now it has begun at VO.
        1. +2
          26 November 2015 19: 46
          It just increased the degree of emotional tension. We have as news, it’s just right to jump the pressure. And the news of the day is a wagon and a cart. People are not iron, as they can let off steam, sharing with each other their thoughts, emotions, but note-much more intelligent than on the censor.
          1. +1
            26 November 2015 19: 54
            Much more intelligent ... You, of course, annealed wink
            Basic Intelligence Assessment - 1 Censor. How much will give in? View, for fun, comments on articles about Syria.
            1. +3
              26 November 2015 20: 06
              If we take a five-point scale with a base mark of 1 point by comparing 3 portals — Komsomolskaya Pravda, VO and the censor — I would give VO-4, KP-3, Ts-1
              1. +1
                26 November 2015 20: 15
                You are well done. I mean, out of malice about points, you seriously. Plus you fellow
                1. -4
                  26 November 2015 20: 23
                  So trust people after that,
                  I surrendered to him by the moon
                  And he took my girl’s breasts,
                  And knotted on his back.
                  hmm ... something like that winked
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    4. +2
      26 November 2015 19: 31
      Yes, after what happened, we need to correct the points, call the Turks like a bag and proudly leave. laughing
      Dear, let the steam go!
      And then we will soberly think about what "gifts" to thank the Turks!
      1. +1
        26 November 2015 19: 52
        Stop stop. By no means do I urge you to proudly retire. I can only show the direction in which to move wink (this does not apply to you, this is a general principle).

        Sometimes I play one of the network games. So there small children sometimes in a chat so express themselves, I get scared. They then endure everything in real life. Is there any need to be surprised when you step on such a foot in the crowd, and he will hit you with anything. Network habit, you know ...
        And when on a good site, adults practice ... (look, for example, at the comment below our feel ) What's this?
        1. 0
          26 November 2015 20: 11
          And what kind of game is that? Let the youth teach me new expressions winked
          1. 0
            26 November 2015 20: 19
            Network chess. Believe it? fellow
            Yes, it is full of them all. They’ll even consider it for advertising. Remember, grandfather on Muscovite on TV?

            Not in the game. Horror in the routine with which you can be sent.
            1. 0
              26 November 2015 20: 29
              Surprised, surprised. I thought something more modern. It is strange that young people generally play in them ..
              1. 0
                26 November 2015 20: 33
                At our age, anyone who dreams of women is already young ...
                Thank you, it was a real pleasure.
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      2. 0
        27 November 2015 00: 12
        I have already announced to the Turks a goods embargo on my own behalf!
  42. +1
    26 November 2015 18: 43
    Quote: RUS96
    Here r0 *** n.

    No, RegJOP PERdogan)))) laughing
    1. -3
      26 November 2015 19: 12
      No, RegJOP PERdogan)))) laughing
      this is the case, isn’t it scattering the minuses here?
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  43. +1
    26 November 2015 18: 43
    You must not apologize, you must fly to the Red Square, kneel down and ask for petition to all residents of the country, and in particular to the family of the deceased pilot am
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    1. 0
      26 November 2015 20: 30
      Quote: enhansment
      And how exactly? Import to Turkey> Export

      So what?

      Quote: enhansment
      Disable gas? Ahha) Well, so far we only give Ukrainians discounts, if only we took

      Pliiin .. are you stoned or what? They boasted that "you have been reading for a long time."

      Inattentively read, here everything about these discounts was chewed a hundred times already ..

      Quote: enhansment
      And there’s simply nothing to answer for us

      The analyst of you, dear, like a dog’s sieve. Read better on. Do not write. Do not disgrace negative
  45. +2
    26 November 2015 18: 44
    let them just now try to strike at least a wing along the Syrian border! c400 will overtake in hell too!
  46. +1
    26 November 2015 18: 44
    “I think that if some side needs to apologize, then this is not us. Apologies need to those who violated our airspace. Our pilots and the armed forces simply fulfilled their duties, which consisted in giving an answer to the violation, ”Erdogan said.

    Here it is, almost exactly like Ukraine when it does not like to admit the truth.
    RUSSIA SHOULD DESTROY TURKEY.
    WHO AGREES .
  47. +2
    26 November 2015 18: 44
    Deliver S-300 to the Greeks in Cyprus and Armenia. And also not to apologize when they start sticking into the ground. Only in this way will it reach the stupid and greyhounds that they have done.
  48. +4
    26 November 2015 18: 44
    Right now, just stroke the laces and come running to apologize. Erdogan family cut back on appetites! We can learn how to live from our childhood since childhood, and if parents have not taught, then we will teach. Now we’ll have to live just within our means.
  49. +1
    26 November 2015 18: 46
    Emmek cehennemde olakak esek
    1. 0
      27 November 2015 00: 16
      What about the translation? Not everyone understands!
    2. 0
      27 November 2015 00: 16
      What about the translation? Not everyone understands!
  50. +5
    26 November 2015 18: 46
    Like politician Ergandon on the edge of the abyss
  51. 0
    26 November 2015 18: 46
    It seems to me that the Bosphorus is narrow and needs to be expanded by a hundred kilometers in both directions.
  52. +3
    26 November 2015 18: 46
    When Turkish planes are shot down, posing any danger to our pilots, I will finally and unconditionally trust Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and recognize him as our undisputed leader.
  53. +3
    26 November 2015 18: 48
    We don't need their false apologies! We don't need the Turkish coast...
  54. +2
    26 November 2015 18: 49
    “Turkish President Erdogan said that Turkey is not going to apologize for the Russian Su-24 bomber shot down by the Turkish Air Force.”

    Nothing new. Turkey still “pees boiling water” when it is accused of the Armenian genocide. The Turks, during the 1st World War, destroyed tens of thousands of Armenian civilians, THEIR subjects (here they are the predecessors of the dill), only for the reason that losing Turkey would not be deprived of Armenian lands following the 1st World War. And they achieved their goal then - this question never arose.
  55. +2
    26 November 2015 18: 55
    The best and most competent revenge for the SU-24 is not bombing and shelling of territories, but the death of an F-16 pilot in a car accident, and then unidentified hooligans attacked the commander of the airbase from where this F-16 took off and crippled him, not just weakly, but there and got to the F-16 auto mechanics, etc. - this is the answer, so that others are afraid to even look askance in the direction of the Russians.
    1. +1
      26 November 2015 19: 02
      Quote: james
      The best and most competent revenge for the SU-24 is not bombing and shelling of territories, but the death of an F-16 pilot in a car accident, and then unidentified hooligans attacked the commander of the airbase from where this F-16 took off and crippled him, not just weakly, but there and got to the F-16 auto mechanics, etc. - this is the answer, so that others are afraid to even look askance in the direction of the Russians.

      I completely agree. Only this time let Putin personally carry out the sabotage, and let Shoigu plan it. And it’s already clear how THIS will end
  56. +3
    26 November 2015 18: 56
    According to the international convention, the Bosporus and Dardanelles can be closed only if Turkey participates in the war - this time. Two - the S400 was definitely not brought through the Bosphorus.
  57. +10
    26 November 2015 18: 56
    Erdogan is, of course, scum, but this scum had enough political will, audacity and impudence to destroy our plane, and now he is practically sending it to... Russia, refusing to apologize. Does Putin have enough will to give a worthy and adequate response? We'll see.. but I doubt it.
    The destruction of our plane is not a stab in the back, but a stab in the face of Russia, friends and allies stab in the back, and Turkey is not an ally of Russia, it has its own interests, which absolutely do not coincide with Russian ones, so all these speeches are about the fact that we We didn’t expect such meanness and the like, they’re just stupid and funny. If we got into such a complex and dangerous conflict, where the interests of many states are involved, then we must be prepared for any meanness and provocation, especially knowing full well who our so-called “partners” are. It’s infuriating when Putin calls these creatures partners.
  58. +1
    26 November 2015 18: 57
    If you don’t want to apologize, you stinking rat, then give up Constantinople!
  59. +1
    26 November 2015 18: 57
    Looks like the old man has lost his mind. He won't rule for long with such a mess in his head.
  60. gop
    +1
    26 November 2015 18: 57
    Porashenko and he were bitten by the same “smoked” one, their brains were sucked out, now they’ll start flogging heresy, then all of Turkey will believe it
  61. +5
    26 November 2015 18: 57
    There is nothing surprising in Erdogan’s statement - confessing to a crime is the lot of strong people,
    Scoundrels are not strong people.
    It is necessary to fully understand the meaning of the information - this specimen is one of the organizers of terrorism, a sponsor and a beneficiary - this is Erdogan’s credo, and not some speculation.
    Someone is fighting to defend their position,
    and someone declares that he condemns terrorism, and then shoots in the back those who fight terrorists.
    In order to act correctly, you need to understand who and what you are dealing with.
    Erdogan is a cruel, greedy, lying, cowardly pig. Of course, for a pig this is an insult, but for Erdogan this is his essence.
  62. 0
    26 November 2015 18: 57
    Quote: starwars
    “I think that if some side needs to apologize, then this is not us. Apologies need to those who violated our airspace. Our pilots and the armed forces simply fulfilled their duties, which consisted in giving an answer to the violation, ”Erdogan said.

    Here it is, almost exactly like Ukraine when it does not like to admit the truth.
    RUSSIA SHOULD DESTROY TURKEY.
    WHO AGREES .

    I beg your pardon, are you by any chance an “officer’s daughter” and part-time provocateur? Did you translate your comment into Russian via Google Translator?
    1. -1
      26 November 2015 19: 00
      No, what did you take?
      1. 0
        26 November 2015 19: 07
        This is it, almost exactly like Ukraine when it doesn’t like to admit the truthЫ.
        RUSSIA MUSTА DEFEAT TURKEYЮ.
        WHO AGREES ?
        probably because of this, if I'm wrong, sorry hi
        1. 0
          26 November 2015 19: 19
          Go play balalaika, don't teach me. lol
  63. +2
    26 November 2015 18: 58
    Dog. Son of a dog.
  64. +1
    26 November 2015 18: 58
    Someone already hit him in the face, he’s having withdrawal symptoms, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
  65. +2
    26 November 2015 18: 59
    You can still expect a lot of bad things from Erdogan... he is not on friendly terms with his head and hopes that he will get away with everything. Therefore, the best response to the provocation is complete control of the Syrian-Turkish border.
  66. +1
    26 November 2015 18: 59
    In response to such a statement, the Kurds should be overwhelmed with weapons of all kinds.
  67. +2
    26 November 2015 19: 00
    Erdogondon, you'd better shoot yourself.
    1. +1
      26 November 2015 19: 06
      Message from the Russian Foreign Ministry
      “In connection with the ongoing terrorist threats in Turkey, we confirm the recommendation to Russian citizens to refrain from visiting the Republic of Turkey, and we recommend that Russians staying there for personal purposes return to their homeland,” the message says.

      Turkey's economic losses, according to experts, as a result of measures taken by Russia, are estimated from 40 to 50 billion dollars, i.e. a quarter of GDP.
      1. +1
        26 November 2015 20: 03
        Russia's losses will be greater, since we export much more there than we import from there.
        1. +1
          26 November 2015 20: 39
          We export invaluable resources there, thanks to which Turkey prospers, and import from there “added value” which we don’t really need.
  68. SMS
    +2
    26 November 2015 19: 01
    The Ottomans understand only the politics of power and perceive any good attitude towards them as your weakness. They forgot Suvorov, Ushakov and Yudenich, it’s time to remind them how they shook with fear from just these names!
  69. 0
    26 November 2015 19: 01
    Erdogan sings according to the notes from Washington, and these “composers” will conduct their sycophants until we break their hands. When will that hour come???
  70. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 01
    It's time to plant a poplar in someone's butt! So poplar WOW, it’s hot, it’s December!!!
  71. 0
    26 November 2015 19: 02
    Yes, he wants to make it clear that he did not do this on his own and therefore must apologize to someone, and someone calls it NATO, and NATO smokes on the sidelines and grunts strangely at Erdogan, either in support or not. Politics, however
  72. 0
    26 November 2015 19: 02
    “Bacha” not only slapped the face until it bled, but also threw down the gauntlet, went for broke? The “guys” in NATO are hastily pushing the “kid” away with their feet, saying he did the shit himself and figure it out, but if anything, contact me, the black “daddy” is in the usual position - “He’s a son of a bitch, of course, but he’s our son of a bitch” “Turkish Air Force sorties will be accompany the US Air Force" Situevin...
  73. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 06
    It’s not for nothing that this scarecrow is fidgeting, oh, it’s not for nothing. Apparently he senses that he will soon have to answer for his dealings with ISIS and for his son’s very dubious business. So I crawled to the mattress pads.....
  74. +4
    26 November 2015 19: 06
    My family definitely doesn’t go to Turkey anymore...I can do just as well without their tasteless agricultural products
    I also don’t take Khokhlyatskoye out of principle, after the start of the confrontation in Donbass
  75. 0
    26 November 2015 19: 07
    dress the mudorgan in a pigskin... or better yet, crash...
  76. +2
    26 November 2015 19: 10
    It seems that after Turkey’s actions, the countries that are members of NATO will think about making changes to the charter of the alliance. Even the United States is clearly not smiling about exposing itself to war by harnessing the aggression of one of its limitrophes with Russia.
    To be honest, I think that the United States is using the idiot Erdogan, just as they used Saakashvili in their time.
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  78. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 11
    And if we put aside emotions, "Edik" himself gives the go-ahead for the introduction of a no-fly zone, we can focus the attention of the world media on the continued support of ISIS by Turkey in the person of their contempt, and then clear the border with Syria completely, covering the Kurds turns out to be a matter of course. Erdogan continues to dig. I'm in a hole, I just need a little help
  79. 0
    26 November 2015 19: 12
    We need to help the “moderate opposition” in Turyatnek and start throwing “pies in butter” to them.
  80. 0
    26 November 2015 19: 14
    Oh man, they did the right thing..))) next time the TU 160 will miss and “accidentally” violate the Turkish border with missiles... or rather, move it a little deeper into the country and then we’ll see what you say, smart president.
  81. 0
    26 November 2015 19: 16
    And what kind of answer can you expect from the head of a terrorist organization behind al-Qaeda and others...
  82. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 16
    Turkish President Erdogan said that Turkey is not going to apologize for the Russian Su-24 bomber shot down by the Turkish Air Force

    If Erdogan had been an honest and decent person, he would have admitted his mistake, resigned and shot himself. But judging by his behavior, Erdogan does not consider himself either honest or decent.
  83. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 17
    No talking! We bring in “Smerch”, “Soncepeki” and level everything to the ground! This and only this way!
  84. +3
    26 November 2015 19: 19
    Oh, I'm afraid, soon a proud bird, a symbol of free France, will fly in and peck Erdogei in a... tolerant place. We're waiting, sir)))))
  85. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 21
    Quote: oleg-gr
    The Turkish "sultan" runs into rudeness. It can be seen that the uncles behind him have promised a lot or are holding onto the Faberge well. They will only throw it when they pin it.

    So they already cheated NATO (read the States) and explained to Erdogan that the downed plane is the problem of Turkey and Russia and not the USA and NATO
  86. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 21
    In Syria, I have already entered the S-400 database. Now let them just try to do dirty tricks!!!
    1. -1
      26 November 2015 19: 28
      he will try, he has already confirmed it
      Will we shoot back? If we do, this is World War 3, if we don’t, then what’s the point of the S-400 there? If you take out a knife, hit, and they’ll kill you with that knife
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  88. +2
    26 November 2015 19: 24
    If the Turks want to preserve the integrity of their country, they urgently need to remove Erdogan, and roll him into a carpet and hand him over to Russia for trial. After this, perhaps after three times compensation for the plane, deep apologies and the trial of those responsible in their country, Russia WILL NOT help the division of Turkey. IMHO, Mount Ararat is on the wrong side of the border, and 20 million Kurds really want to finally get their own country. And the Kurds are NOT MUSLIMS!
  89. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 25
    Damn, I read VO a long time ago, I thought that amateurs and pros in military affairs gathered here, how wrong I was No..Only bots in the comments.
    Are there still naive people left? We beautifully filmed the launches of cruise missiles from the “strategists” (why?) and distributed the video all over the World, in the hope of proving that we have a CSO Army like the USA (at worst, like the USSR).
    In response to this, Erdogan “spit” in our faces. Then NATO, having initially covered Turkey a little, admitted that the plane was shot down over Syrian territory. This is another slap in the face (if anyone doesn’t understand).
    At the moment, we are not like the United States, we will not win a regional conflict from Turkey. They know this very well and laugh. Azerbaijan (in case of war) will immediately close its airspace.
    Do you know that right before the “Syrian operation” we bought US “securities” worth 2 billion? Did the godfather get paid?
    Oh, the fact that Iran was given 5 billion. , on cheto-there (over the span)?
    Stop misleading the people (mostly those who served)! Do you want war for "clans"? Forward - Damascus suitcase.
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  91. +2
    26 November 2015 19: 28
    And he won’t apologize, because he wants us to “eat” the insult, and then dance in front of Turkey in order to maintain “warm and tender” relations...
  92. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 31
    Why waste words. The Turks are Turks in Africa too, and they have never been friends with the Slavs. They just raked it away for a long time and began to forget, and here, with some NATO behind them, you can get better. Well, as for the straits, if it’s too tight, then you can and expand...although the water on both sides will be bad.
  93. -1
    26 November 2015 19: 33
    Erdogan still continues to insist that the Russian plane violated airspace, while not commenting in any way on questions about why Ankara ignored the special communication line with Moscow for an urgent message about the “imminent violation of airspace”, and about where the Russian plane was located for the mentioned General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces five minutes before Turkish missiles hit it

    Yes, I saw somewhere today their answer regarding the communication line - it was faulty, and here is their answer to the question you are interested in.
    But ours are also good, they literally flooded their media with “evidence” that the Su-24 simply crashed on the territory of Syria, and that it was shot down “precisely” over the territory of Turkey (here someone’s hand will probably immediately give me a minus, just like yesterday). Here you have an audio recording of the “warnings of the Turkish dispatcher”, and “injured” Turks on Turkish territory, who were hit in the leg and ear by small fragments from the SU-24, and an audio recording of the Lebanese pilot who “recorded” the “warnings of the Turkish dispatcher” on his mobile phone yesterday.
    You probably think, like Putin and Lavrov, that you shouldn’t pay attention to such “little things”, but it is precisely because of these concocted “little things” that Erdogan has made and will make such statements if your Lavrov, Putin, Shoigu I am unable to refute this Turkish nonsense, which you prefer not to talk about and assume that it does not exist.
    Yes, they have this Erdogan “evidence”, and it’s quite wow that they live and conquer your emotional “Erdogan - s..., g..., p..., S-400 will kill everyone,” etc.
  94. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 38
    “The Cossacks in Novorossiysk threw rotten eggs at the Turkish mission and burned the Turkish flag at its entrance. The conflict with Turkey will most likely deepen. 1. Moscow officially demanded an apology, compensation and punishment for those responsible. Erdogan said that he would not apologize and that we did everything right and if necessary, they will shoot down more. Such mutually exclusive positions, of course, cannot lead to a quick resolution of this conflict. So far, both sides are following the principle. The parties' ultimate capabilities, such as closing the straits or activating the Kurdish factor, have not yet been used, because in this case the situation could get out of control very quickly.
    2. In addition to the already carried out bombings in the border areas, Russia began to turn off the economic taps - in addition to the ban on tourism and poultry meat, it announced the introduction of sanctions on as yet unspecified categories of Turkish food products. A complete embargo can hardly be expected, but certain segments of trade turnover will obviously be hit.
    3. Against this background, the long-awaited happened - American troops crossed the border into Syria. So far, the number of previously announced 50 people who should establish interaction with the Syrian Kurds leading an offensive in the northern regions of Syria. From the point of view of international law, this is an intervention, since the United States is on the territory of Syria without the permission of Damascus, but such trifles are no longer of interest to anyone.
    4. French aviation, which is participating in hostilities in Syria, will soon be joined by German aviation - the Germans are sending Tornado bombers to the Syrian theater of operations to interact with the French. France is hesitant to undertake a land operation, and much will depend on what proposals Hollande brings to Moscow. The conflict continues to internationalize, having long ceased to be a purely internal Syrian affair."

    Message from TASS: “Russia expects an apology from Turkey for the Su-24, punishment of those responsible and compensation for damage, said the President of the Russian Federation. The Russian Federation considers treacherous stabs in the back from those whom it considered partners in the fight against terrorism to be absolutely inexplicable, said Russian President Vladimir Putin, speaking at the ceremony of presenting credentials to new ambassadors of foreign states. “We consider the treacherous stabs in the back from those in whom we saw partners and allies in the anti-terrorist fight to be absolutely inexplicable,” he said, clarifying that he was referring to the incident that occurred two days ago with the Russian Su-24 bomber shot down by the Turkish Air Force. Turkey has not yet apologized to Russia at a high level for the downed Su-24, has not offered to compensate for the damage and has not promised to punish those responsible, Putin said, noting that with such actions Ankara is deliberately pushing back relations with "The Russian Federation is at a dead end. “We still do not hear any apologies from the highest political level of Turkey, no proposals for compensation for harm and damage, no promises to punish the criminals for the crime they committed," Putin said. “It seems that the Turkish leadership is deliberately driving Russian-Turkish relations into a dead end, we regret this,” he added. As Putin emphasized, “what happened two days ago in the skies over Syria (an attack on a Russian Su-24 participating in an anti-terrorist operation - TASS note) contradicts common sense and international law: the plane was shot down over Syrian territory.” The president emphasized that he considers “absolutely inexplicable treacherous stabs in the back from those whom he considered partners in the fight against terrorism.” A Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter shot down a Russian Su-24M bomber on Tuesday, which Ankara claims violated the country's airspace near the border with Syria. The Russian Ministry of Defense states that the Su-24M was located exclusively over Syrian territory and that there was no violation of Turkish airspace."
  95. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 42
    Well, if they themselves are “Cossacks” (maybe without quotes), then Turkey is 100% Khan.
  96. +1
    26 November 2015 19: 49
    Turkey can respond quite effectively without using military force. I think that competent people are now doing this. And calls like “drop a nuclear bomb on Turkey” are not very smart. With such countries as Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and others, one must speak, as a rule, from a position of strength, and not necessarily military. There is a lot of leverage over American mutts.
  97. +2
    26 November 2015 19: 49
    Quote: Captain Nemo
    Erdogan still continues to insist that the Russian plane violated airspace, while not commenting in any way on questions about why Ankara ignored the special communication line with Moscow for an urgent message about the “imminent violation of airspace”, and about where the Russian plane was located for the mentioned General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces five minutes before Turkish missiles hit it

    Yes, I saw somewhere today their answer regarding the communication line - it was faulty, and here is their answer to the question you are interested in.
    But ours are also good, they literally flooded their media with “evidence” that the Su-24 simply crashed on the territory of Syria, and that it was shot down “precisely” over the territory of Turkey (here someone’s hand will probably immediately give me a minus, just like yesterday). Here you have an audio recording of the “warnings of the Turkish dispatcher”, and “injured” Turks on Turkish territory, who were hit in the leg and ear by small fragments from the SU-24, and an audio recording of the Lebanese pilot who “recorded” the “warnings of the Turkish dispatcher” on his mobile phone yesterday.
    You probably think, like Putin and Lavrov, that you shouldn’t pay attention to such “little things”, but it is precisely because of these concocted “little things” that Erdogan has made and will make such statements if your Lavrov, Putin, Shoigu I am unable to refute this Turkish nonsense, which you prefer not to talk about and assume that it does not exist.
    Yes, they have this Erdogan “evidence”, and it’s quite wow that they live and conquer your emotional “Erdogan - s..., g..., p..., S-400 will kill everyone,” etc.

    don’t worry about nonsense, even the Turks say that our plane “was” in Turkish airspace for 17 seconds. Like they did it so quickly? Or Turkey has grown by 50 km into Syrian territory, forget it, it’s already divided between the Amers and Russia
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      26 November 2015 20: 01
      Quote: Lalaika
      Don’t worry about nonsense, even the Turks say that our plane “was” in Turkish airspace for 17 seconds. Like they did it so quickly?

      They say that they were flying two planes, long after the SU-24 crossed the Turkish border, they missed one plane and shot down the second. This is quite possible if their F-16 was on a transverse course towards the side of the SU-24, and in 10 minutes fired a missile as soon as the SU-24 crossed their border, these are a few kilometers judging by the maps of our General Staff with a shift in their direction It’s not worth overcoming anything in 10 seconds.
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    26 November 2015 19: 50
    It’s not without reason that he gets into... oh, it’s not without reason... We need to think very carefully about how to pinch his tail, and at the same time not quarrel our peoples for a long time. The action was clearly paid for from overseas, and such a quick and super-arrogant response from Erdogan to the offer to apologize means that this move was calculated by the puppeteers, and it fits into the script.

    A vague suspicion arises that the true purpose of the provocation was elsewhere. Namely, to sever economic ties between Russia and Turkey as much as possible, to cause another increase in food prices in our stores and discontent among Russians due to the loss of cheap vacation spots.

    That is, you cannot put a ban on Turkish products and holidays in Turkey. Patriots and cautious people will not go there themselves now. It is necessary to write about products in stores that they are made in Turkey (I noticed that in Magnits, for example, they often do not write about the manufacturer), and let people have a choice - to support this country or domestic producers with rubles, but in no case should they be limited or prohibited
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    26 November 2015 19: 51
    He will come to an agreement and Bulava will be sent to him with an apology.
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    26 November 2015 19: 53
    You will have to answer! Erdogan:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIDAwPBxdmk&feature=player_detailpage

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNfYbxs1C50&feature=player_detailpage

    The economy won't get by!
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      26 November 2015 20: 07
      You have a video that was filmed a year ago.
      It’s better to delete it or replace it with the one from the day before yesterday, before they give you any disadvantages here.
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      26 November 2015 20: 54
      This is not our parachute. Ours is white with an orange border.
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      26 November 2015 21: 55
      The insertion is incorrect. The links are correct! I confirm the semantic meaning of the comment! Thank you.
      Don't judge. Tired...(see profile)
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