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Import substitution in the heads

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Looking back to the West, we will always be lagging behind.


The country is making a huge mistake, according to leading analysts: we are not preparing for the wars that have been waiting for us in 15 – 20 years. But even after the Great Patriotic War, when, it seemed, it was possible to rest on our laurels, the USSR worked on breakthrough technologies. And then the backlog allowed the country for 70 years to do without a big war. This was discussed at the II All-Russian Conference of the Association "Analytics" in the Public Chamber of the Russian Federation.

Now Russia is in a similar situation. One must think that it will allow living the next half century without wars. However, there is an illusion in the leadership of the country that it is possible to agree and reconcile with a potential adversary.

“The main object of aggression today is not the army, but the people as the bearer of civilizational and state foundations”
Barack Obama admitted once that the US is not building a multipolar world, but a multi-storey building in which not everyone can find a place. Hence, the population should be reduced. According to Obama, there is the brain of the world (USA), his workshop (PRC) and consumers (golden billion). There is no place for Russia with many other countries.

The opposite point of view is associated with traditional values, the main of which is the right to life, which comes from Christianity and Islam. She is now defended by Russia. The clash is fundamentally. We can not agree. The community will either move to a multipolar world, or slide to the dictates of one country.

Over the past century, the world has passed through three civilizations. The symbol of the first is the hoe, the second is the assembly line, the third is information and high technology. The Soviet Union at the time entered the path of the third, but was destroyed and thrown back many years ago in 1991, which was, as Vladimir Putin said, the biggest geopolitical catastrophe of the twentieth century.

Now Russia is slipping into a second, if not the first, civilization. At the same time, we must manage to counter the threats of the United States and other countries. How to do it, if before the collapse of the USSR, the country's GDP was five GDPs of China, now it is 1 / 5. With today's state of society and economy, Russia is doomed, some experts say. Having such low GDP growth rates, it will gradually turn from a subject of world relations into an object that is easy to manipulate.

Import substitution in the heads

Andrei Sedykh collage

The only chance for us is dynamic development, both intensive and extensive. It is clear how important was the return of the Crimea, and the blow to the militants in Syria, with whom they would otherwise have to fight on our land. But the problem is deeper. If you have the perfect weapon, but there is no elite that is ready to give the appropriate order, it is useless to press that button if necessary.

It seems that the West has not realized until the end of what has happened, in connection with which we are waiting for new tests, which will require sharp and unexpected moves in big-time politics. But this is the logic of survival. Churchill somehow caustically remarked that the major powers behave on the world stage as gangsters, and petty ones as prostitutes. Of course, we are not going to imitate in this plan colonial England or the USA, but we will defend our sovereignty by all means.

It is believed that the twenty-first century - the time of supercivilizations, countries with a population of more than 400 million people and GDP over 20 trillions of dollars. Among them, obviously, the United States with its provinces (Canada, Mexico), China, united Europe. As for Russia, even taking into account the Eurasian project, we are too small both in size and in terms of GDP. For us it is crucial to have allies. This is either India with one billion people, or Latin America — above all Brazil, or China.

But integration is being conducted with an eye on the West - suddenly he will return us to his arms. Indian colleagues ask: where is your future project? There is nothing to answer, because we ourselves have not figured out what kind of society we are building, what kind of country we would like to see in 15 – 20 years. And the absence of a transparent strategy for the future is a serious risk factor, including a military one.

We are constantly talking about the need for a multipolar world. But who wants to share their powers and rights with a weak player. Let's face it. The military budget of Russia, according to the Stockholm Peace Research Institute, is 83 billion dollars. And China has 216 billions, the US has more than 600 billions, and NATO countries have 950 billions. The ratio of forces and conventional weapons (excluding nuclear) is obtained 1: 6.

“Many factors suggest that we are not ready to conduct serious high-tech wars,” reflects the head of the department of the Institute of Applied Mathematics. M. V. Keldysh George Malinetsky. “We will have to fight with a huge shortage of our own electronic means, including EW.”

Unfortunately there is nothing to boast here. The investments made by the state in Micron, Angstrom, and other plants did not give much result. According to Malinetsky, having recently visited Angstrem, he wondered if the company could make a domestic mobile phone. The answer was: yes, but it will be the size of a parcel box. It turns out that we are still not able to establish even the production of household mobile phones. Where to go further?

“Armaty” of the wrong system

The great Russian scientist Nikolai Kondratyev argued: wars and revolutions are connected with the cyclical nature of economic development, which today is understood as a change in technological patterns. In particular, the beginning of the twentieth century was characterized by a transition from the third to the fourth way. Locomotive industries then acted tank и aviation, heavy engineering, auto industry. Stalin predicted that the future war would become a war of motors, and he was not mistaken in determining the strategic course of the state. Enormous efforts were made to turn a peasant country into an industrial power. This is what predetermined the outcome of World War II.

However, we completely missed the fifth technological structure, where telecommunications and computer, Internet, and mass consciousness management became the locomotive industries. Now, not having the fifth, we have to jump on the running board of the outgoing train of the sixth order, where there are completely different areas of leadership: bio and nanotechnologies, new medicine, full-scale virtual reality modeling, robotics. They will determine the development of mankind, applied in the military sphere. Unfortunately, for the time being we imitate (thanks to “effective managers”) movement in this direction. And in fact, as noted at the conference of the Association "Analytics", we do not deal with these technologies. It is enough to honestly look at our most recent designs of weapons and military equipment - the Sarmat ICBM, the PAK DA, the Armata tank.

“I don’t want to say that projects are unsuccessful, I won’t mention their cost or assert that it is an imitation,” Malinetsky explained his position. - I will ask only one question: what technological structure do they correspond to? At best, the fourth. So, in future wars they will not be able to play any significant role. ”

As Mstislav Keldysh said, the tortoise will overtake Achilles if it moves in the right direction, and Achilles - in the wrong direction. We are, by some estimates, mistaken with the vector, making investments in technologies that will not work in 10 years. And what about the Americans? They are engaged in robotics, genetic engineering, and vehicles that travel 500 – 700 kilometers over rough terrain without human intervention. Moreover, all developments are open, conducted on the basis of competitions. We do not have open competitions or they are formal. We are in the position of Leskovsky Lefty, who said: tell the sovereign that the enemy does not clean the rifle with bricks and we should not. Our partners abroad are already engaged in not industrial equipment, but post-industrial.

Why did we have a nuclear project? Because he was personally engaged in Stalin, kept him in control. But not only the country's leadership then turned out to be ready for this big project. 800 thousand people took part in the creation of the nuclear industry.

After World War II, England lost its status as a world power, and the USSR acquired it. In 1991, Russia fell in development, and China went up. Much, if not all, in such situations depends on the strategy taken by the leadership of status decisions. The START Treaty, which was signed by Presidents Medvedev and Obama in 2010, returns nuclear weapons a decade ago. 4 th Research Institute of the Ministry of Defense and the Institute of Applied Mathematics. MV Keldysh conducted an analysis and independently of each other came to the conclusion: this is most beneficial for China, which in the development of its nuclear forces will catch up with the United States eight years earlier.

Could Americans really sacrifice their national interests for the sake of friendship with Russia? “Not at all,” said Malinetsky. - I am sure that the United States already has something more than nuclear weapons in its arsenal. That is something else, more perfect and more powerful. ”

Indeed, the most dangerous weapon is one that has not yet been used. It is customary to talk about the battlefield, but instead there will most likely be a “city of battle” where the main military operations will move. As demanded the development of new types of weapons and military equipment. This point of view is shared by the senior researcher of the Military Academy of the General Staff, Tatyana Gracheva. The main object of aggression today is not the army, but the people as the bearer of civilizational and state foundations, she said. This generated not only cognitive wars for the minds and souls of the population, but also new types of weapons and military equipment.

Everyone overslept?


New environments where major strikes will be made are bio and nano space. In 2012, the Japanese scientist Sinya Yamanaka received the Nobel Prize for the development of stem cell tissue technology. This means the ability to get parts for a person.

If the aggressor country is technologically higher than the victim by several orders of magnitude, it can lead others - invisible wars. How, for example, were the Americans able to remove Indians from their continent? Very simple - with the help of alcohol (the immune system of the aborigines turned out to be unsuitable for it) and infections.

Imagine that a certain substance (microbes), against which there is no protection, is sprayed over Moscow. We will not even notice this. It is not surprising that one of the most closed and important American programs is to protect their biological space. They believe that by 2022, they will be able to completely eliminate the possibility of such a threat to their country. We do not have anything similar yet, not to mention the fact that Russia in terms of the level of public health has slipped to 124-e place in the world, on the life expectancy of men - to 130-e.

Presidential adviser Sergey Glazyev is convinced that a financial, cognitive, information war is being waged against Russia. As a result, over the past six years, the opinion of the Western population about our country has deteriorated sharply, even before the Crimea. 62 percentages of respondents are good to the USA, 50 percent to China, 34 percent to Russia. If we do not designate our long-term goals, very few people will invest in the Russian Federation, especially to be friends with us.

Even 20 years ago, we said: let's talk to Ukraine not about how good we are, but, for example, about how the Baltic lives after leaving the USSR. But as we did not have, there is still no normal broadcasting to the neighboring state. We arrogantly believed that you could buy everything for oil and gas and lost a country with a population of 45 million. Russia has invested 200 billions of dollars in the corrupt economy of the Square, which the common people of Ukraine never felt. And the Americans - only five billion. But they invested them in ideology and reformatting the mass consciousness of the population, calculated the risks.

In recent years, there has been a sharp leap in the development of biotechnology in the world. The cost of decoding the genome has decreased 20 thousands of times. The next century will be a celebration of biology. Therefore, the problem of import substitution is relevant for us not only in microelectronics.

We overslept a jump in the development of UAVs, although Stanislav Lem still predicted in 1963 that the future was in their hands. And because the most advanced UAVs are in service today, not Russia, but Israel.

Accident managers


When the caravan turns back, the lame camel becomes the first. The reality is that, despite our lag in a number of sectors of the economy, in many others we were the first to become a major energy power. This also applies to the creation of new weapons and military equipment and other products. Sergei Chvarkov, deputy head of the Higher Education and Science Service for Scientific Work, recalled in this connection that setting the tasks for himself, the United States decided on the main thing. They came to the conclusion that it is necessary to get ahead of the enemy in creating control systems, to get around in making decisions, to deprive the ability to independently accept them. And these tasks are being successfully implemented.

“We are oriented towards the West in everything, although we have our own achievements, there are Keldyshes and Lebedevs,” Chvarkov is sure. - The same Lebedev created such computers on the old element base, which are still relevant today, and nothing of the kind has appeared in the world. We have worked out the ideology of creating completely new computers and electronic devices working on fundamentally different principles. But we do not realize it and announce our scientists, who make breakthrough technologies, almost crazy. ”

And if any developments break through to the top, various Western funds immediately appear around them. And where are our Russian? Today, the Military Academy of the General Staff is increasingly confronted with pseudo-scientists, amateurs composing opuses on troop control issues, and evaluations of the effectiveness of combat use of the AMIS. But behind them there is not a single thought, not a single valuable offer. All this speaks of the dying up in the country of the analytical community, the shortage of real specialists.

“We have produced so-called efficient managers who can manage cash flow, but, unfortunately, do not have production issues,” Chvarkov explained his thought. “The accident at the Sayano-Shushenskaya Hydroelectric Power Plant occurred largely because in the power industry the very“ effective managers ”turned out to be in leadership positions, for which the main thing was to extract the maximum profit.”

The country urgently needs an all-Russian program of training professionals for leading industries and the defense industry. Our president and commander in chief two years ago raised a question about such specialists. But there is no single program yet. Each corporation prepares for itself staff at its discretion.

Without their own project for the future, without a clear vision of their country for the 15 – 20-year perspective and without people willing to implement a development strategy, it was extremely problematic to survive under conditions of economic sanctions and terrorist threats, the conference participants stated.
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  1. Ajent cho
    Ajent cho 27 November 2015 16: 39 New
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    You can talk about our lag as much as you like, only I would look at the Westerners and their ability to survive in conditions when the economy is periodically exposed to such shocks.
    Our hobby - simplicity and reliability at a low price - speaks for itself. Hence the successes in military equipment, in the first place. Of course, with this approach, beauty begins to limp: as an example, one can cite the configuration of the wings of trucks produced during the Great Patriotic War. Instead of figured stamping, straight sheets were simply taken and bent in the right places - everything, the wing is ready, you can go to the front. The technological chain was greatly simplified, the number of manufactured products increased, which was a valuable quality in time trouble.
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 27 November 2015 16: 47 New
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      A whole complex of the most important and by no means new problems has been raised. However, not all reasonable judgments were made about all of these problems. So, in the field of electronic warfare, Russia's positions are pretty strong, and in the field of VLSI, microelectronics, the situation needs to be urgently straightened. To attribute PAK FA to obsolete technologies, with all due respect to Malinetskiy, is not true, the other question is how many and when will they, as well as Armat and other things, be? China, India or other countries of Asia or Latin America will not be our strong allies - these are empty hopes. But to return to the sphere of influence of Russia Europe, turned into an Arab caliphate, is not only possible, but also necessary. Moreover, the key countries of Germany and France are already ripe for this. The forces manipulating Obama are great, but opposition to the global financial oligarchy is also growing in the United States. You need to skillfully use it, and not shout that everything is bad and everything is gone. The most important internal task is to overcome the Kudrintsy, in the broad sense, coming only from eating raw material rents, and to restore strategic planning, industry and science. This will automatically redistribute the roles of menagers and real experts. Unmanned aerial vehicles are a necessary thing, but their role in Israel is one, in the USA - different, and in Russia - third. In foreign policy, we will explain to the West that he himself is not in a position to cope with international terrorism, or to contain the growing China. The only real support and ally of the Atlantic civilization is Russia. So the West should not chop the branch on which it sits.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 28 November 2015 03: 46 New
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        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        But to return to the sphere of influence of Russia Europe, turned into an Arab caliphate, is not only possible, but also necessary. Moreover, the key countries of Germany and France are already ripe

        Let me ask when Europe was in the sphere of influence of Russia ?? and how ripe are Germany and France ?? I'm afraid only in your brain ... wassat
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 27 November 2015 17: 07 New
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      Dear author, you would have brought this article to the government, personally you would have handed it over to Dmitry Anatolyevich, at the same time, if you would have read the dvorkovichs and the shuvalovs, but I think they would have answered: -What?
      1. bastard
        bastard 27 November 2015 18: 29 New
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        Quote: 79807420129
        Dear author, you would have brought this article to the government, personally you would have given Dmitry Anatolyevich

        Do you think that citizen Putin has, as always, nothing to do with it?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 27 November 2015 21: 05 New
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          I read the article and what a thought came, but there will be nothing, no import substitution, no medicine, no education, nothing ....
          Let me explain. After watching the opening of the Yeltsin center with the participation of the very first faces of the present and henchmen of the Eltsinoids of the past years and their oath assurances in the continuation of the "case" of the traitors to the Motherland, a terrible picture appeared with amazing evidence ...
          Once the museum of "Satan" has been built, it means that someone has to go to it, who has to look at all this props and listen to the "patriotic-glorifying" odes of the Eltsin era from the lips of the guides ... "Oh, what a guy he was ..."
          Anyone who survived the era of the rule of Eltsin is unlikely, but rather for nothing!
          But to take schoolchildren there just right, in a random order ... Slightly tweak History and forward.
          And the Eltsin is no longer "Satan" who destroyed the Power, but a "fighter" and "truth-bearer", "liquidator of the totalitarian past", "savior" who gave freedom to the peoples of the Russian Federation ...
          Those. generations that remember the USSR will leave, and our children and grandchildren, who have been educated in the Unified State Examination, brought up in church obscurantism, frantic propaganda, corrupt media and completely unaware that there used to be a different, correct and honest life with different orientations and will come to replace them. moral values.
          What I mean is that apart from slaves, this system does not need anything, slaves who will not even understand that they are slaves, while under the conditions of our medicine they will live exactly the time allotted to them and give a clearly defined offspring, for the reproduction of the same slaves. And for these new "people" of the post-Eltsin era, Ukraine and Belarus will definitely become Zakordonia ...
          And for the implementation of all these plans, the successors of the Eltsin case need time, 10-15 years, until we leave ...
          And all these 10-15 years these "gentlemen" will pose as patriots, defenders of the people, fighters for the Russian world, the main anti-terrorists, and so on. and so on. And we will scandalize on the forums, get angry and hate, invented and palmed off especially for us vrvgs, in the form of Ukrainians igils, mattress mats, Asians, gayeuropeans, aliens and all kinds of abracadabra.
          That's what happened to me IMHO.
          1. bastard
            bastard 27 November 2015 22: 35 New
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            Quote: Stroporez
            I read the article and what a thought came, but there will be nothing, no import substitution, no medicine, no education, nothing ....

            Oh, Stroporezische! Hammer, laid out on shelves. I would have thrown you a hundred points, but this is beyond my means.
            Hold five! Salute, comrade!hi good drinks
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 28 November 2015 02: 18 New
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              Quote: villain
              Oh, Stroporezische! Hammer,

              Thanks, you are flattering me repeat
              Quote: villain
              Hold five! Salute, comrade!

              I shake your hand too, Brother! soldier drinks
              Quote: villain
              laid out on shelves.

              Count it actually chopped in one minute!
              As he looked at the "ceremony" Naina, DAM, VVP, hall with ro ... faces from the 90s, "peisy" (s) all around ... and then it hit me in the nose with a gray durozomboscope, do you remember how Commander Chavez said on the UN rostrum ...
              And here it is enlightenment, they swear an oath that they will not turn off the beaten path and will follow it until their last exhaustion and there will be no pity or mercy on their way to us ...
              1. bastard
                bastard 28 November 2015 10: 29 New
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                Quote: Stroporez
                Count it actually chopped in one minute!
                As I looked at the "ceremony" Naina, DAM, VVP, a hall with ro ... faces from the 90s, "peisy" (s) all around ... and then it hit the nose with gray from a durozomboscope, remember how Commander Chavez on the podium The UN said ...
                And here it is enlightenment, they swear an oath that they will not turn off the beaten path and will follow it until their last exhaustion and there will be no pity or mercy on their way to us ...

                It is necessary to begin mass production of stools, and there are scented soaps and fluffy ropes. I’m not a cruel person, but I’ll knock out a stool from under Chubaisoids with pleasure, I will not feel sick, I am sure.
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    3. Letun
      Letun 27 November 2015 17: 33 New
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      Quote: Ajent Cho
      You can talk about our lag as much as you like, only I would look at the Westerners and their ability to survive in conditions when the economy is periodically exposed to such shocks.

      Yes, I would also like to look at Germany or Japan if they also possessed our resources.
      You know, I remember the phrase from Stone's movie "Platoon". "Everyone has an excuse like a hole in the ass."
    4. max702
      max702 27 November 2015 17: 36 New
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      The article is correct, the conclusions are simple, it's time to clean up at home! Change the ideology of the golden calf and again turn to the creator of man .. But who will do it? While these are not visible, and the world behind the scenes carefully monitors that those do not appear ..
      1. assam4
        assam4 27 November 2015 21: 37 New
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        the world behind the scenes carefully ensures that these do not appear ..

        The current Russian leadership is following this.
      2. Down House
        Down House 28 November 2015 00: 00 New
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        Quote: max702
        The article is correct, the conclusions are simple, it’s time to put things in order at home! Change the ideology of the golden calf and again turn to the creator of man

        It is time to grow up to the ideals of Antiquity thousands of years ago - that everything should be perfect in a person - both body and spirit!
        In the meantime, we rush between the "calf" and "creation" and it turns out that it turns out that "life has passed by" and the power of life and life turns out to be in the fact that creation with a calf always walks with one foot!
    5. FlyEngine
      FlyEngine 27 November 2015 17: 53 New
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      What are nanotechnologies? In our country, ordinary people believe in heresies such as homeopathy, torsion fields, cancer treatment with prayer, urine therapy, and more. Tell me, what technologies are we talking about, if there is a degradation of public consciousness? According to the state TV channels, they broadcast about reptilians, psychics, memory of water, raw food diet and other crap! It's just unbelievable, and it's the 21st century! Updating should not go from top to bottom, but from bottom to top, otherwise no one will need your high technology. Why would someone grow an artificial liver for transplantation if they can treat cerrhosis with a potion from the root of a mandrake and a pinch of ground Amur tiger tooth?
      1. bastard
        bastard 27 November 2015 18: 55 New
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        Quote: FlyEngine
        In our country, ordinary people believe in heresies such as homeopathy, torsion fields, cancer treatment with prayer, urine therapy, and more.

        The key word is faith. It is for this purpose that a religious worldview is being instilled, since it is easier to deceive a believer.
        By the way, about stem cells and not only:
        Prof. S.V. Saveliev, Dr. Biol. of sciences


        Here is also a very interesting interview with S. Savelyev, but for a long time. Who cares - listen (audio).
    6. Will
      Will 27 November 2015 18: 31 New
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      A lot of false truths create bitterness.

      About simplicity and reliability - why exactly this cannot be proud of us, as a country capable of without a fake and fleeting brilliance, simply be... those. to have the right to the most important thing in human life - to love and be loved. But even love, which is obliged to give life, the supporters of "one billion" have turned into a life-destroying weapon. Serene love begins to attract more love-responsibility because all the forces of people are squeezed out to earn pieces of paper, which are forced to give up on temporary pleasures of fashion - a kind of pump for pumping out the necessary and important into the shine of worthlessness. America was "taken" for "firewater" and beads, and today, in the same way, many are deprived of their right to life. But for this to pass, the masses need to be left in their development at the level of savages. Those who for such a development of the historical process themselves, in fact, have not moved far from wildness and "howl" for the right to be so, not realizing that while developing technology, one cannot remain internal "monkeys" capable of imitating more than thinking about the future not from the position that and where else can you get it, and what and where else can you save, so that the future is not only for them. The ideology of the United States is mortally dangerous for all life on earth, for it is fixated on selfishness, unites through selfishness and fosters selfish attitudes. And since each person in his growing up goes through this stage, as necessary for a simple existence, such a policy is already strong in that there is no need to strain too much for further development. It is enough to do everything so that a person simply does not have the opportunity to develop further in understanding - why do we live?
      Is it really for the sake of a constant struggle for the right to be, or for the right to know what is good and what is evil? If this is not understood on a massive scale, then mass death is assured. There will always be a "monkey" who has seized power with the ability to press the red button. Recent events show this especially clearly when the president of a country does not know what he is doing, knocking down an ally at the prompting of the "wild" USA.
  2. gladcu2
    gladcu2 27 November 2015 16: 40 New
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    Author.

    So what did you want to say?

    What's so bad? Or what should be done?

    They threw everything into a heap.
  3. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 27 November 2015 16: 41 New
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    Turks buy fertilizers for vegetables from us (I know for sure and I see what goods and where it goes across the border on invoices)
    then they supply us tomatoes at 70 rubles each and our tomatoes 270 !! Guys, I ... l is such an import substitution. Tkachev, you simply didn’t understand who the minister was.
    1. anfil
      anfil 27 November 2015 17: 47 New
      +1
      From what ceiling is the price of 270, from stretch or stucco?

      I'll give you a screen so that you don't buy Chinese, but buy ours !!! And a reference to "Agrobazar", so as not to overpay:http://agrobazar.ru/vegetables/wholesale/Tomatos

      1. AdekvatNICK
        AdekvatNICK 27 November 2015 17: 53 New
        0
        it’s directly for wholesalers 50 and when he arrives at the place this tomato he costs three times more expensive and Turkish cheaper at times.
        1. anfil
          anfil 27 November 2015 18: 15 New
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          Well, it depends on the traders, they did not think about the question of why they are Chinese in 70r. sell, why the wrapping goes only to Russian? I feel the enemy’s hand am
  4. AUL
    AUL 27 November 2015 16: 42 New
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    Unfortunately, the man described everything correctly. As long as "effective managers" rule, there will be no sense.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 27 November 2015 16: 45 New
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      "Effective managers" do not rule everywhere in the country.
    2. Angara
      Angara 27 November 2015 16: 50 New
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      You also forgot to say "effective managers" grown in the West. And as it is known to the Western economy before us as before China on bellies. Different mentality and, accordingly, different economy
    3. Sibiriya
      Sibiriya 27 November 2015 17: 05 New
      +1
      Do not forget that Russia’s new breakthrough has never been engaged - it happened from ancient times, but what is worse and even better is a fact. The only problem is materialization and quantity. And an article like that, everything was gone chef. Russia has never been a suicide.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 28 November 2015 03: 52 New
        +1
        Forgot the end of the 80s and subsequent years, led by ebny ??
    4. Lelek
      Lelek 27 November 2015 17: 51 New
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      Quote: AUL
      As long as "effective managers" rule, there will be no sense.


      Well, what can we talk about if the head of the most promising and necessary corporation for the country is the "salesman" Chubais, if the odious figures who stood in key positions in the government, the State Duma, the presidential retinue turned out to be thieves, slanderers and outright enemies of Russia who fled beyond the cordon and from there pouring mud at us. If the country is comfortable with foreign NGOs, whose main goal is to lure the "brains" to the West and which are supported by Western money (and not small ones).
      "Adjustment" in these areas should be started immediately and uncompromisingly, regardless of the cries and fountains of saliva of all kinds of "benefactors" and human rights activists.
  5. Vladimir71
    Vladimir71 27 November 2015 16: 44 New
    +9
    But we have Chubais and 90% of an ineffective government with such an "elite" we can feel 100% "Protected" ...
    1. Angara
      Angara 27 November 2015 16: 52 New
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      Quote: Vladimir71
      But we have Chubais and 90% of the inept government

      Correctly! Where Chubais - there is devastation: RAO UES, banana - i.e. nano-technology. And there were also vouchers
      1. afrikanez
        afrikanez 27 November 2015 17: 31 New
        +4
        Yes, Chubais had long had to give the dogs to eat. All. what can be ruined and plundered. And what x ... he still tramples the earth ???? angry
  6. Dezinto
    Dezinto 27 November 2015 16: 45 New
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    “We have built up the so-called effective managers who can manage cash flows, but, unfortunately, do not own production issues,


    It’s forever ....
    1. AdekvatNICK
      AdekvatNICK 27 November 2015 16: 49 New
      +1
      we are the 136th in the world by corruption index.
      1. Angara
        Angara 27 November 2015 18: 19 New
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        Quote: AdekvatNICK
        we are 136th in the world by corruption index

        and who has gold ??? belay
        1. AdekvatNICK
          AdekvatNICK 27 November 2015 18: 25 New
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          Gold? at Denmark.

          http://gtmarket.ru/ratings/corruption-perceptions-index/info
          1. syndicalist
            syndicalist 27 November 2015 19: 01 New
            0
            Yeah. According to this table, Russia and Ukraine are really brothers forever!
          2. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 28 November 2015 03: 53 New
            0
            Quote: AdekvatNICK
            Gold? at Denmark.

            Are you laughing? when do you write?
    2. Ros64
      Ros64 27 November 2015 20: 06 New
      +1
      The law is under consideration in the State Duma for application in the new Russia. While the first reading is underway.
  7. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 27 November 2015 16: 47 New
    +5
    Those who came to power in 2000 lost their passionarity, became bronzed and cannot change the matrix of the export-raw material direction of development for anything else .. A striking example of Chubais at the head of a breakthrough nano direction, just a feeder for a thieving bureaucrat ..
    1. Dilshat
      Dilshat 27 November 2015 17: 23 New
      +5
      Chubais is specially set up so that if breakthrough technologies and discoveries appear in Russia, then neutralize them before being released and transport them to the West.
  8. bad
    bad 27 November 2015 16: 47 New
    -3
    “I don’t want to say that projects are unsuccessful, I won’t mention their cost or assert that it is an imitation,” Malinetsky explained his position. - I will ask only one question: what technological structure do they correspond to? At best, the fourth. So, in future wars they will not be able to play any significant role. ”
    ... and in these ways war was supposed to be done by someone else’s hands? .. financing and leadership of the masses of armed bearded monkeys? .. many googles and wikis can argue and write high-witted articles .. to scold state policy with highly scientific terms, defense industry products to defend a shift with a machine ... and at the General Staff we are not fools ... probably figure out where, whom, where, and what .. bully
  9. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 27 November 2015 16: 51 New
    +6
    “We have built up the so-called effective managers who can manage cash flows, but, unfortunately, do not own production issues,

    It is my personal conviction that our government is the quintessence of this policy. There is not a single government decision that would evoke the support of the population, well, this is understandable, the well-being of the population is not the prerogative of the government's work. But there is not a single successful decision that at least did not harm the state. You don't have to go far to find examples, just watch today Putin's meeting with an ONF activist on the implementation of the For Fair Purchases - Fight Against Corruption project to be horrified by the level of embezzlement of the state budget, which activists report to the president on the air.
  10. 1536
    1536 27 November 2015 16: 51 New
    +6
    Take a look at our TV talk shows. There young people do not talk about their achievements, developments, etc., but discuss venereal and mental illnesses, or perversions. And most importantly, the sea of ​​people willing to participate in such shows. There are also "intellectual" talk shows "not for everyone" on "cultural" channels. But it is there that these false teachings, presented as recent achievements, are discussed. An example is the discovery of a Ukrainian living and working in Moscow as the head of the archive that the feat of the 28 Panfilov heroes is a "historical lie", but the truth will certainly "emerge". The truth, probably, lies in the fact that Hitler simply did not want to take Moscow and retreated to positions prepared in advance so that the German soldiers would properly celebrate Christmas and New 1942. The same thing happens when the questions of physics, cybernetics, chemistry and many other sciences are discussed. We are simply held for useless human material, on which a cross has been put, and which cannot be called human. For the shot down plane there were pickets at the Turkish embassy, ​​and for the 28 heroes, "the most faithful sons" of the country, there were no pickets at this archive!
    And what future awaits us?
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 27 November 2015 17: 01 New
      +9
      You can and should at least stop producing them .... these managers who want to heat up here immediately becoming the deputy and the head of the plant, dismissing everyone in a row and thereby raising the "efficiency" and dumping "there".

      The manager of the FIG knows what - yes, fashionably cool, where the 18-year-old is still in a hurry.? Engineers, this is fu, nerd - this is what needs to be changed, fight for the minds of shkolota, build them!

      But I dunno what prospects.? In the morning, I-pad at breakfast, in the school I-pad in the classroom, two phones for home and for friends, in the evening a computer with calofood and sleep .... Trranday sometimes infuriates!

      And in these boxes there are cars of useless rubbish, because it is unlikely that the student will clarify the theorem that was held at school today? !!!

      And how to deal with this? Planet earth system. Who will grow up in twenty years? Pros at opening pages in VK?

      I want to believe that everything will be fine. It only remains ...
  11. 16112014nk
    16112014nk 27 November 2015 16: 52 New
    +5
    While pr-in Medvedev carries out import substitution in this way - one importer is exchanged for another! fool
  12. Masya masya
    Masya masya 27 November 2015 16: 54 New
    +4
    Want peace, get ready for war ... The atmosphere is tense to the limit
  13. Signaller
    Signaller 27 November 2015 16: 56 New
    +3
    Listen guys. Let's put me in the position of Prime Minister. But as???? I'll smash all this mosquito completely. And then let's call it "Sailor Zheleznyak returned" ???? And what is the message ????. It is necessary to carry these hanuriks, which are kept in the government - UNIVERSAL
    1. AdekvatNICK
      AdekvatNICK 27 November 2015 16: 59 New
      +2
      they don’t take normal people there.
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 27 November 2015 20: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Signaller
      Listen guys. Let's appoint me to the post of Prime Minister.

      You are not addressing, with this request on kremlin.ru :-)
    3. Ros64
      Ros64 27 November 2015 20: 13 New
      +2
      First, learn to write RUSSIAN without errors, otherwise we will lose Russia and the Russian language FOREVER with such a prime!
      1. S-cream
        S-cream 27 November 2015 23: 15 New
        +1
        as well as "Amarilla".
    4. MrK
      MrK 27 November 2015 23: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Signaller
      Listen guys. Let's appoint me to the post of Prime Minister. But as????

      With great pleasure. After all, it will not be worse anyway. Only leave you bro.
  14. IAlex
    IAlex 27 November 2015 16: 57 New
    +8
    As the general manager of All Russia, whose job is a hobby, said: "Russia has finally become an empire of raw materials!" Why technology empire? She and a bead quite in the form of iPhones and Chinese clothes will be enough for a "civilized life" like in Europe ...
  15. Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 27 November 2015 16: 57 New
    +2
    but how to develop something if our country does not belong to us, it belongs to all hucksters and other abominations. While the country controls, business, there will be no development.
  16. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 27 November 2015 17: 04 New
    -4
    The author of the article has a heightened sense of doom. This often happens to middle-aged people. As in the words from the song: "the whole world is going to war against me." In fact, this is not at all the case. Our country is well aware of everything, the dangers too. The army is rapidly rising, even according to Western admissions. Threats loom clearly. No one harbors illusions. There are breakthrough moments in nanotechnology. As far as genetic engineering is concerned, I can't say anything, but we are definitely not lagging behind in development. We are only lagging behind in the implementation of these developments. There are advances in space. You can continue for a long time, is it necessary? So do not feed the pessimists! laughing
    1. assam4
      assam4 27 November 2015 21: 47 New
      +1
      There are advances in space. You can continue for a long time, is it necessary? So do not feed the pessimists!


      Alexey Khazbiev Nov 16, 2015
      Roscosmos postponed for 2017 the launch of the first satellite of the new space system "Arctic", designed to monitor the ice situation in high latitudes

      According to Sergey Lemeshevsky, general director of the Lavochkin NGO, this measure is a forced measure, it is directly related to US sanctions that forbade the delivery of an electronic component base of the Space category (radiation-resistant components) to Russia.
  17. Signaller
    Signaller 27 November 2015 17: 04 New
    +5
    The new environment where the main attacks will be delivered is bio- and nanospace.
    Again, the liberals are banking.
    Crimea showed-energy is the main thing- This part will be the first blow.
    Personally, a subsidiary power engineer, would have solved these problems long ago, knowing what and how. And this "Very smart" Novak is not in the subject at all. Only the cable pulls.
    Personally, I would have held out. Especially not far away. Yes, and its producers in Russia are missing. Read the Internet. And then they turned to China ?? Darkness.
  18. APS
    APS 27 November 2015 17: 12 New
    0
    All right, you need to move forward. The jerk is not yet visible, but there is a good proverb, the Russian harnesses for a long time, but then quickly drives. I am sure everything will be fine!
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 28 November 2015 04: 02 New
      0
      Quote: APS
      The jerk is not yet visible, but there is a good proverb, the Russian harnesses for a long time, but then quickly drives. I am sure everything will be fine!

      25 years harness this long? or still harnessed ???
  19. Reducer
    Reducer 27 November 2015 17: 24 New
    +2
    Bitter, but the TRUTH!
  20. olf
    olf 27 November 2015 17: 49 New
    +1
    Until there is a consolidation of society, nothing will change in Russia. So these thieves will rule us. Maybe it's time for the election to start choosing normal people?
    1. Reducer
      Reducer 28 November 2015 05: 40 New
      0
      ... normal people ...
      for example?!
  21. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 27 November 2015 17: 50 New
    -2
    In some ways we are good, in something - they, it’s natural ...
  22. rennim
    rennim 27 November 2015 17: 53 New
    +2
    article is fundamentally true. However, calls for leadership to turn towards the intellectual and technological development of the country are meaningless. It’s one thing when there are resources and desire, but they don’t know how. Another .... Here’s another thing most likely is.
  23. Abrekkos
    Abrekkos 27 November 2015 18: 10 New
    +6
    Quote: dchegrinec
    There are breakthrough moments in nanotechnology. As far as genetic engineering is concerned, I can’t say anything, but we are definitely not lagging behind in the development. We lag behind only in the implementation of these developments. There are advances in space.


    Of course, there are "breakthrough moments".
    But in most areas this is from the Soviet backlog. In most weapons systems under development, if we discard propaganda, we are still lagging behind.
    How many do not say that our Su-35 is cooler, but even a modern F-15 modification will not let it show its coolness in a real clash, having imposed on it unfavorable combat conditions. I'm not talking about the F-22. And so at the air show and demonstration battles, the Su-35 is certainly cooler. There is nothing to say about the T-50 and other non-existing fighters.

    Where are we actually ahead of that? We mainly move by inertia with a slowdown or an acceleration less than that of a potential adversary.
    Are you talking in space? Is this a hangar or something? Yes, it’s a great achievement that both carriers left the first time. But what's next? Under the USSR, they would have been given a state award and a star of a hero of socialist labor. Even when it took off after 5 accidents. What about us? The chief designer of the Angara prevented the collapse of the team and develop the expensive Moscow land. AvtoVAZ managers ruined production on Proton.

    And in order to fight, first of all, you need to have balanced armed forces in the main weapon systems and not separate outstanding weapons.
    So there is no need to feel particularly optimism here. Propaganda and reality are two different things.

    Anyone who has seen a promising weapons development program knows what is written about our gap or breakthroughs. There we are talking about trying to reduce the gap in key areas (not all). It’s on TV that we are ahead of the rest and everyone is afraid of us.
    In practice, even Turkey is not afraid of us.

    If we talk about the strategic perspective of 20 years and more, then we urgently needed to build / recreate the chain of innovation creation more precisely yesterday.

    1. Fundamental science that opens up new laws and approaches (laws of physics, mathematics ...).
    2. Applied science creating new principles for the application of open laws
    3. Engineering science developing technologies, machines and mechanisms using these principles.
    4. Production, means of production, metrology, etc.

    The most critical link is item 1. In the medium term, you can hold out at 2.3., But lagging behind and risking falling behind forever. How the empires of South America were left behind forever without gunpowder. Or the mighty Mikkens fell with bronze swords. Or the great Egypt fell before the Hyksons ...

    We almost fell behind, we were forever with nuclear weapons. Back in the 30s, nuclear energy was considered a toy not without prospects of application. And in the 45th it became clear that the one who does not own it can not be a great power.

    Of course, you can catch up if you do this, if the connection of generations does not break, if schools are not lost ... When the connection of times breaks, it will be much more difficult. or maybe our partners and neighbors will not let us catch up.

    This requires economic and social mechanisms. Young people will not aspire to scientists if they pay 20tyr .. and if they go, they will soon leave for the USA because they pay 10 thousand, but only $ or because there are experimental facilities.

    Remember how the USSR rose. Who was the hero? Scientist, engineer, working professional ... Their RFP was many times higher than that of the seller in the stall. Films were shot about them; their professions were praised.
    The result was a powerful leap that allowed overtaking the United States in 20 years and overtaking somewhere.

    And now in paragraph 1 (fundamental science), complete bummer and collapse. In paragraph 2, something is like a greenhouse life. In clause 3. the backlog according to claim 1 and claim 2 is being actively developed and a vacuum is already being felt
    1. Ros64
      Ros64 27 November 2015 20: 30 New
      +3
      As for the VAZ managers, it was not they who destroyed the Proton, they were the managers sent from Moscow to "steer" AVTOVAZ (which they successfully destroyed and robbed), and then these Moscow managers "rushed" to steer further - the result is obvious. Now AVTOVAZ was given to "steer" the Swede BU Andersen (the storyteller - as they call him at the VAZ) and his girlfriend. Now AVTOVAZ will receive a big ... c!. at AVTOVAZ, he is going to cut another 2016 thousand people (out of 15 thousand, 120 thousand will remain already) And in Togliatti there is no work !!! And Medvedev is muttering something with his courtiers! In three necks such a government must be driven - urgently resignation with confiscation of the plundered!
  24. try
    try 27 November 2015 18: 15 New
    +2
    to start something, you have to finish something first. to start import substitution and industrialization, the era of "effective managers" must be ended. and for a start put the red-haired nanospecialist. in the nanjail. FOREVER
  25. slovak007
    slovak007 27 November 2015 18: 19 New
    +1
    But even after World War II, when, it seemed, it was possible to rest on our laurels, the USSR worked on breakthrough technologies. And then backlog allowed the country for 70 years to do without a big war.

    And it's just enough to appoint true general designers instead of the so-called "top managers".
  26. astronom1973n
    astronom1973n 27 November 2015 18: 20 New
    +5
    Before the collapse of the USSR, the country's GDP was five of China's GDP, now it is 1/5.
    Probably for this "achievement Yeltsin opened a whole temple museum am , where he will be worshiped ..... And the great bald traitor Gorbachev will be built with folk money the stella - the coolest in the world and will also be worshiped for the collapse of the great Power! When will we take it for a head, huh?
    1. Ros64
      Ros64 27 November 2015 20: 33 New
      +1
      And who paid for the construction of this Center for the Great Alkash? NO MONEY IN THE BUDGET!
  27. Angara
    Angara 27 November 2015 18: 28 New
    0
    I don’t know how anyone, but I have two swear words in my working vocabulary: manager and merchandiser-dumb office vegetables wassat
    1. S-cream
      S-cream 27 November 2015 23: 18 New
      0
      The merchandiser works "on the spot", not in the office.
  28. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 27 November 2015 19: 15 New
    +1
    The article raises important issues that need to be addressed.
    It is a pity that the officials in our government have the worldview of the leaders of the raw materials appendage country, therefore they do not see many problems that the government of a strong independent state should solve.
    And, if the country has not yet fallen into the abyss, then only God and providence protect the country, and more specifically we are protected by the spirit of our ancestors who fought for Russia, served Russia, loved Russia and endured all the hardships and hardships in the name of Russia. The situation resembles an episode from the film "Peculiarities of National Fishing", when those who lost their package from the headquarters managed to hit the target at the right time by pure chance.
    After all that the 90s reformers did to the state, it is a miracle that the country is still alive.
  29. TOR2
    TOR2 27 November 2015 21: 48 New
    +1
    The state’s investments in Mikron, Angstrom, and other factories did not yield much. According to Malinetskiy, having recently visited Angstrem, he asked whether the enterprise could make a domestic mobile phone. The answer was: yes, but it will be the size of a parcel box.

    Because investments were not in production, but in cuts and scams.
    The country urgently needs a nationwide program for training professionals for leading industries and the defense industry. Our president and Supreme Commander-in-Chief two years ago raised the question of such specialists.

    Take any enterprise, the top is furious with fat, and the rest make ends meet. In this situation, no program will help. You need to start by restoring an elementary order, and introducing the death penalty for embezzlement on an especially large scale.
  30. Amper
    Amper 27 November 2015 22: 13 New
    +6
    You can recall the PAST Victories, Past Generations, appeal to otherworldly forces, believe in providence and other rubbish as much as you like.
    Who will raise the country now !? Only the people! In the name of what?
    To make the rich richer? Are the poor even poorer?
    Under whose banner? Who will the people follow?
    There is no such banner! There is no such name!
    Ripped, cast out from the pedestal of the creator of the future, He is passive, unhappy, He is dying out.
    The Country dies with it, and there is not a single glimpse for the better.
    Money is everything! by any means! This is the goal of this society, implanted everywhere and by everyone!
    But neither pieces of paper nor gold will feed or heal anyone! This can be done only by grain growers and doctors, skilled and talented !!! But they need to be raised, educated by society.
    Who can the thieves and crooks society raise and educate? ..........
    If the ancient peoples had centuries, then decades to correct mistakes, then now only years.
    Today's Russia is always behind. If she miraculously managed to preserve part of the military potential of the USSR and its specialists, this does not mean that she is not criminal. How much gunpowder is enough? How many fronts? Cover the whole border? From the air, from the water, from the earth? Will there be enough reserves? Hire? High-tech products and more. Specialists, military?
    Who will supply the machines? Effective managers, economists, lawyers?
    The article is correct and we all know that it’s FOREVER been impossible to live like that. But at the helm all the same and everything goes the same ....
    Night, street, lantern, pharmacy.
    Lifeless dull light ...

    The outcome will only be necessary, where’s it, To whom to lean against Russia? Or who will pick her up?
    1. epsilon571
      epsilon571 28 November 2015 01: 05 New
      0
      Amper (1) SU Today, 22:13 PM
      There is no such banner! There is no such name!
      Ripped, cast out from the pedestal of the creator of the future, He is passive, unhappy, He is dying out.


      One man came to church and prays to God:
      - Lord, why one is lucky, but I do not!
      The neighbor and the house and the cottage, and the car is, but I have nothing.
      The apartment is removable, his wife is sick, there’s nothing to teach children.
      God help, I will thank you for a century, I will do everything for the sake of Your Name!
      In the same church, the Archangel and God inspect the parishioners, a Guardian Angel of a man approaches them with a bow.
      “Lord, help him, a faithful member of your flock will be, we need those today, you yourself see, people are losing faith!”
      God turns his head in displeasure, and exclaims with irritation: "My son did not come to ask for that, give your ward reason, let him at least buy a lottery ticket!"

      This saying is about us. So far, only elections can be our lottery ticket, and if they do not help, then strikes and actions of disobedience. Don't you want the truth? Are you used to a quiet life, numb in your soul? And if so, then there is nothing to God to pester on trifles, there is a way for us!
  31. cap
    cap 28 November 2015 04: 56 New
    0
    Choosing smart where to go stupid?
    Next on the list ... finish thieving.
    You will become the MOST IMPORTANT.
    This list is on your table.
    And in this list is not only YOUR person.
    WHOM WILL YOU GOVERN?
    ... or WHAT.
    That's the GDP in front of such a problem.
    He gave the command to find smart, brave, honest.
    They brought the set ... TABRET !!! hi
  32. Days
    Days 28 November 2015 20: 59 New
    0
    The article is nonsense of propaganda for propaganda of negative moods. Put 10 cons.
  33. vonWolfenstein
    vonWolfenstein 28 November 2015 21: 32 New
    0
    The author touches upon topical and painful problems of modern society. The USSR achieved such successes thanks to socialism, a planned economy and state ownership of mineral resources and the main means of production. The fact that those industries that are now called unprofitable were financed. The Ministry of Health offers to conduct online consultations for patients in distant villages, where mostly old people live who do not have a laptop and do not know how to use it. And in the native village of my grandmother in the Ryazan region there was a paramedic. And this was during the years of "repression of the dictator Stalin." And completely free higher education in the years of "stagnation and dominance of the party elite." Everything in the country was produced and grown except for bananas and branded clothes for which the crowd climbed onto tanks in 1991. It is not profitable for the business of the present to develop its more profitable import and make money on it.