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Belarus will have missiles with or without Russia

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Belarus will have missiles with or without Russia



Belarus, it seems, is also firmly on the path of militarism. By this, however, the "peace-loving" policy of the United States and NATO, which concentrated significant military contingents in close proximity to the borders of the Union State - Russia and Belarus, has long been pushing. Or, perhaps, local politicians, including Lukashenka, realized that the army is not just a burdensome attribute of the state, but also the most important condition for its existence.

Thus, for the first time, the Minister of Defense of Belarus clearly defined the source of military threats for the country - “the four NATO bases for various purposes, including aviation, in the immediate vicinity of the border of Belarus”, and also, no less surprisingly, found a way to neutralize them - it turns out the Belarusian army needs "means of destruction that can hit these objects in the right place at the right time." Until recently, it was believed that these same weapons would be Russian planes that would arrive in the country as part of the location of the air base.

However, at the last moment (the airbase was supposed to be deployed before the end of 2015 of the year) Lukashenko, a recognized equilibrist in relations with the West and the East, refused this project. Opinions that the Old Man refused the air base under pressure from the opposition are ridiculous - he never paid attention to them. Everything is much simpler - Lukashenko’s trump card in the “national security” game was created by the Belarusian gunsmiths of the Polonez MLRS - a very promising complex, which, however, still requires some refinement and, most importantly, supplies to the troops. It should be noted that it will be difficult for Belarus to do both in the near future, primarily for economic reasons. Meanwhile, according to the available information, in the near future, presumably at the end of the current year, the combat launches of the Polonez are scheduled on the Belarusian territory. A fool is understandable - in China it is expensive!

At the same time, both Belarusian and Ukrainian experts agree that the MLRS "Polonez" is only an intermediate step towards the creation by Minsk of its own operational tactical missile complex equipped with Belarusian-made cruise missiles (there is information that they will be called "Stork") . Indeed, a prerequisite for the guaranteed destruction of military facilities in the enemy’s territory is the effective overcoming of the air defense system — a typical task for cruise missiles. However, the possibility of Belarus to create modern high-precision missiles would raise some doubts, especially after the announcement of the Polonez MLRS, if not for some nuances.

Given the overly close Belarusian-Ukrainian relations, the prospects for the creation of the Belarusian Aist cruise missile become much more distinct. Indeed, even at the beginning of 2012, the Ukrainian company Motor Sich sold 60% of shares in the Orsha Aircraft Repair Plant. As it turned out, one of the conditions of the transaction, among other things, was the adjustment of the production of gas turbine engines. Taking into account modern realities, it is obvious that in Orsha they are preparing (or are already ready) to start the production of MS-350 or MS-400 rocket engines for the needs of Belarus. By the way, it was on the basis of MS-400 that China in 2009 created its own cruise missile CJ-10, very similar to the Ukrainian analogue “Kite”. Apparently, it is not by chance that Minsk chose Beijing as a partner in building its multiple rocket launcher system - its own missile system looms on the horizon.

Moreover, the Belarusian defense industry is no longer the first to participate in a project to create an OTRK equipped with cruise missiles. For example, at the international defense industry exhibition IDEAS-2008, Pakistan presented a mobile “Babur” cruise missile launcher on the chassis of the Minsk wheel tractor plant MZKT-79292. By the way, the rocket itself is equipped with the same MC-400. Coincidence? Hardly.

It seems that the creation of its own OTRK by Minsk, equipped with cruise missiles, is only a matter of time. Another question is what made Belarus, in the face of economic difficulties, force its missile program? It is likely that a significant role in this issue belongs to the increase in the level of tension in the region, as well as Moscow’s unwillingness to supply Minsk with modern weapons like the C-400 or the Iskander OTRK.

Despite the fact that Russia's recent policy towards Belarus is unlikely to seriously threaten Allied relations, the development of its own missile program can dramatically reduce the influence of the Kremlin on Lukashenko. In this regard, we can safely say that within the visit of the President and the Minister of Defense of Belarus to Moscow, scheduled for the end of November, Moscow will certainly discuss a number of issues related to military security: the deployment of a Russian airbase in Bobruisk, the possibility of deploying the Russian ground contingent, as well as preferential supply of modern samples of military equipment.

It is obvious that the transfer to official Minsk of the weapons it needs, albeit at reduced prices, will not only increase the military potential of an ally and allow it to retain considerable funds, but also allow Russia to keep Belarus in its sphere of influence for a long time.

And the most important thing is to prevent the further rapprochement of Minsk and Beijing, so that China could not become a strategic military-political partner for Minsk instead of Russia. Otherwise, in the long term, Moscow could lose its main ally in the western direction.
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  1. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 27 November 2015 12: 24 New
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    Crimea began to receive electricity through the energy bridge from the Kuban
    http://vz.ru/news/2015/11/27/780594.html

    great news.
    1. SS68SS
      SS68SS 27 November 2015 12: 28 New
      +7
      so that China could not become a strategic military-political partner for Minsk instead of Russia.


      По моему мнению это очередные "изыски журналистов" с http://flanker.su/ в стиле "а что будет если..."
      Белоруссия это братская страна и выходок "а-ля хэрдоган" никогда не допустит. А чтобы гарантировать это, надо с подрастающим поколением воспитательно-патриотическую работу вести серьезно. Как с российским так и с белорусским. И с пелёнок, в молоком матери наши дети и внуки должны знать "КТО ЕСТЬ КТО", и кто враг, и кто друг и почему. И вещи называть своими именами, а не "либералистическими"...
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 27 November 2015 12: 36 New
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        Moscow may lose its main ally in the west.
        This last phrase of the article - and there is an ultimatum-blackmail HRYGORYCHA!
        Obviously - give us the dough on defense, otherwise we will crap on you!

        The selfishness of this baby is opening up more and more!
        (такая же как у многих других, окружающих нас "братиков")
        1. podpolkovnik
          podpolkovnik 27 November 2015 13: 50 New
          +7
          Quote: Baikonur
          Moscow may lose its main ally in the west.
          This last phrase of the article - and there is an ultimatum-blackmail HRYGORYCHA!
          Obviously - give us the dough on defense, otherwise we will crap on you!

          The selfishness of this baby is opening up more and more!
          (такая же как у многих других, окружающих нас "братиков")

          Inspired by the comment ...
        2. varov14
          varov14 27 November 2015 15: 04 New
          +4
          So, after all, the way it is that it is a sin to conceal, all our friendship and brotherhood are tied to gratuitous money, with all of which. In difficult times, everything is aloof with unbreakable erysipelas. An example should be taken from amerov, take everything and everywhere that is bad. Everyone walks on tiptoe and what is strange they love, apparently they hit on a proverb, etc. Sin of course, but somehow.
          1. Temples
            Temples 27 November 2015 16: 19 New
            +7
            Agree with you.
            Независимость, реальная независимость этим "братьям" не нужна.
            This is their nightmare.
            They prefer to depend.
            In other words, sit under the roof of a strong one.
            And they trade in their addiction.
            Europe has been living this since 45 years.
            So our fragments want to live like that - with their pants off and their outstretched hands.
            But there is an alternative - to be part of the force.
            There is an example - Crimea has returned, it has become a part of power.
        3. gladcu2
          gladcu2 27 November 2015 16: 55 New
          +2
          Baikonur

          What are you worried about? Were you alarmed by the article?

          So this style opinion is all gone.

          Belarus is an independent state. It works in line with building up its state-owned DOS. Takes the responsibility of making independent decisions. Has a government that is always ready to engage in dialogue. I am ready to compromise and defend my point of view.

          Another thing is always to note the social and mental structure of the population. Assessment of the so-called human values. In order not to miss the situation, as with Ukraine. And in this case, work at the level of diplomatic protests.

          If the educational system is negative? We must resolutely engage in dialogue with the government.
      2. Conductor
        Conductor 27 November 2015 12: 47 New
        +3
        Буквально вчера был в Беларуси, Минске, спустился в метро и "обалдел"- такой пропаганды службы в армии еще никогда не видел и не слышал... За 10 минут ожидания на станции ролики,посвященные службе в армии крутили более 15 раз!, ни одного социального!Необходимы как танкисты, так и операторы беспилотных комплексов!Что это?
        1. botur
          botur 27 November 2015 15: 44 New
          +1
          Just now the call is coming.
      3. Russiamoy
        Russiamoy 27 November 2015 13: 54 New
        +4
        Белоруссия это братская страна и выходок "а-ля хэрдоган" никогда не допустит

        на Украине тоже так было. но каких то 25 лет информационной обработки и "...если друг оказался вдруг...". а Лукашенко пока не ведет такой патриотической работы с населением, а наоборот делает упор на самоиндентичность и тд .где-то уже это было, не правда ли?
        1. ruskih
          ruskih 27 November 2015 14: 33 New
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          Small detail. All these years in Brest Fortress on June 22 was Memorial Day. And veterans walked the streets of Minsk and other cities of Belarus and did not hide their awards.
        2. saturn.mmm
          saturn.mmm 27 November 2015 15: 02 New
          +6
          Quote: Russiamoya
          на Украине тоже так было. но каких то 25 лет информационной обработки и "...если друг оказался вдруг...". а Лукашенко пока не ведет такой патриотической работы с населением, а наоборот делает упор на самоиндентичность и тд .где-то уже это было, не правда ли?

          The military does not have a very good salary, youth does not go, and that’s the campaign.
          Dad sank the main sales markets - Russia, Ukraine, not an easy time, but missiles are more likely to be commercial projects, weapons from the time of the USSR have already ended.
        3. Ramzaj99
          Ramzaj99 27 November 2015 17: 26 New
          -2
          Quote: Russiamoya
          Белоруссия это братская страна и выходок "а-ля хэрдоган" никогда не допустит

          Yes, when will you understand ?? ...... How many knives still need to be put in the back ???
          NO Russia has no siblings !!!!! There are only temporary affiliates.
          Russia has only two friends, the army and navy, and it always has been. Recently, a third has been added: VKS.
          ALL!! Remember this once and for all!
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        5. anfil
          anfil 27 November 2015 22: 17 New
          +2
          In conditions when there is no well-organized system of alliances with our participation, which disciplines countries and makes them more predictable in relation to us, it is very difficult to live. And we have practically nothing except the CSTO. And if NATO members after the incident with Su-24, albeit expressing privately to the Turkish authorities what they think, but publicly speaking on the side of Ankara, then they are allies. And the CSTO members got water in their mouths. This, alas, speaks of the quality of our military allies. In fact, we, unfortunately, do not have them. So, you can expect a blow from anyone, and no one will rush to help.
      4. Konstantin Yu
        Konstantin Yu 27 November 2015 14: 32 New
        +2
        Quote: SS68SS
        so that China could not become a strategic military-political partner for Minsk instead of Russia.


        По моему мнению это очередные "изыски журналистов" с http://flanker.su/ в стиле "а что будет если..."
        Белоруссия это братская страна и выходок "а-ля хэрдоган" никогда не допустит. А чтобы гарантировать это, надо с подрастающим поколением воспитательно-патриотическую работу вести серьезно. Как с российским так и с белорусским. И с пелёнок, в молоком матери наши дети и внуки должны знать "КТО ЕСТЬ КТО", и кто враг, и кто друг и почему. И вещи называть своими именами, а не "либералистическими"...


        Все верно. Только кто ДРУГ, познается в беде и сложные времена, а когда у "друга хата с украю" это ... так..сожитель
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 27 November 2015 12: 28 New
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      He’s a dad, he wants to suck milk from three mothers at the same time, all his policies would be better if you please, and money wouldn’t hurt. And I’ll leave the other way.
      1. ANTI.KORR.
        ANTI.KORR. 27 November 2015 12: 56 New
        +2
        Quote: 79807420129
        itera dad, wants three mothers to suck milk at the same time

        This is not the Old Man's fault, and not the Kremlin’s understandable position on Belarus.
        Already someone, and Belarusians are not only our allies, they are part of the Russian people, although in recent years attempts to quarrel neighbors have intensified.
        What are the constant attempts, biased by the Russian media, to put Lukashenko in a negative light.
        However, the Old Man did not allow to seize the economy, but retained it for the state, developed agricultural The industry of Belarus is quite modern, and the economy is growing, unlike ours.
        Лукашенко не строит музеимумов в честь президента РБ, принявшего участие в развале страны,за народные деньги,а отправил этого "господина" на обычную среднестатистическую пенсию.
        And all the achievements of the Republic of Belarus should be protected, therefore, the development of the army of the Republic of Belarus and the defense complex is welcome, and since the policy of the Russian Federation is not always clear and understandable, the search for new partners is quite natural. And here it depends only on the leadership of the Russian Federation whether the Republic of Belarus will move away from Russia or will remain the most faithful ally.
        As for the people themselves, they were and will be united, and the citizens of the Russian Federation are very sympathetic to the policy pursued by the President of the Republic of Belarus.
        1. Conductor
          Conductor 27 November 2015 13: 17 New
          +4
          Hmm, you understand a lot about the situation ... Have you ever been to Belarus?
          1. ANTI.KORR.
            ANTI.KORR. 27 November 2015 13: 37 New
            +3
            Quote: Explorer
            Have you ever been to Belarus?

            laughing Regularly!
            I have many friends living in Belarus.
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        2. WKS
          WKS 27 November 2015 13: 21 New
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          Quote: ANTI.KORR.
          Already someone, and Belarusians are not only our allies, they are part of the Russian people,

          Why then did this ally not fart indignantly, in solidarity with Russia after the Turkish aggression?
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 27 November 2015 17: 55 New
            +1
            Wks

            And how would you like to hear this bunch? Tell me the key.

            But the number of pluses to your statement speaks about the level of worldview of Russian society.

            RF, it has long been necessary to think about your own security. Since the destruction of countries comes primarily from emphasis on moral values.
        3. ARES623
          ARES623 27 November 2015 13: 32 New
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          Quote: ANTI.KORR.
          The industry of Belarus is quite modern, and the economy is growing, unlike ours.
          Лукашенко не строит музеимумов в честь президента РБ, принявшего участие в развале страны,за народные деньги,а отправил этого "господина" на обычную среднестатистическую пенсию.

          А еще батька не строит космодромы, ядерный щит, который его тоже прикрывает, не замечен в боевом авиастроительстве, и еще во многих проектах, которые поедая бюджет, несут в себе спокойствие наших границ. А еще батька не замечен в оказании политической поддержки России в сложных международных вопросах, где нас прессуют, а Белорусы, как "союзники и часть русского народа" в кустах отсиживаются. Так что цена батьке на 3 копейки больше, чем Эрдогану.
          1. ANTI.KORR.
            ANTI.KORR. 27 November 2015 14: 13 New
            +6
            Quote: ARES623
            So the price of a dad is 3 kopeks more than Erdogan.

            But to Dvorkovich, what is the price now? and how much will I give today?
            On your part, comparisons between Lukashenko and Erdogan look lousy.
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 27 November 2015 14: 28 New
              +1
              Quote: ANTI.KORR.
              But to Dvorkovich, what is the price now? and how much will I give today?
              On your part, comparisons between Lukashenko and Erdogan look lousy.

              You still suggest janitors with cleaners to evaluate! Technical performers, no matter how good or bad, do not build state policy. I value the Old Man not because I want to buy it, but because his state is expensive for my state and, like Turkey in NATO, asks more than it gives.
              1. ANTI.KORR.
                ANTI.KORR. 27 November 2015 14: 38 New
                +3
                Quote: ARES623
                but because his state is expensive for my state

                This is your view ...
                And in my opinion, embezzlement is much more expensive for my state, and for the people living4 in this state the brainless domestic policy of the same state is very expensive.
                PS. Under the constitution of the Russian Federation, the bowels belong to the people, and if so, I ask you to give my share of these bowels in favor of Belarus at no charge. yes
                1. ARES623
                  ARES623 27 November 2015 15: 01 New
                  +3
                  Quote: ANTI.KORR.
                  And in my opinion, embezzlement is much more expensive for my state, and for the people living4 in this state the brainless domestic policy of the same state is very expensive.

                  Казнокрадство всем поперек горла. Но это другая тема. Вашей долей в недрах уже распорядились и уже отдали, в том числе и по дешевой цене, в Белорусь. А безмозглую внутреннюю политику можете подправить личным участием в президентских выборах, или хотя бы в местный горсовет попробовать. А мне видится, что Вы больше под пилу "Дружба" заточены и управляете больше тем, что из карманов доступно. Потому как у Вас и причины, и следствия в одной куче. Извините за резкость. Задолбали диванные полководцы с непроходимостью в мозгах.
                  1. gladcu2
                    gladcu2 27 November 2015 18: 20 New
                    +3
                    Ares623

                    And as an independent arbiter, I noticed a misunderstanding on your part.

                    In the statements of ANTI.KORR sounds more common sense. And you have more selfishness.

                    Common sense. Common sense, mutual understanding.
              2. gladcu2
                gladcu2 27 November 2015 18: 14 New
                +1
                Ares623

                What are you talking about? ANTI.KORR told you in Russian that the policy of the Russian Federation is not clear to Belarusians.

                Correct the situation on your part and cheer on the specifics from the oppozite.
                1. ANTI.KORR.
                  ANTI.KORR. 27 November 2015 23: 31 New
                  +3
                  Quote: gladcu2
                  What are you talking about? ANTI.KORR told you in Russian that the policy of the Russian Federation is not clear to Belarusians.

                  Thank you for understanding hi
                  I will tell you more, this policy is not clear even to many citizens of the Russian Federation request
              3. SMikhalych
                SMikhalych 27 November 2015 21: 13 New
                +1
                Quote: ARES623
                I value the Old Man not because I want to buy it, but because his state is expensive for my state ...

                I read such passages for a long time and that’s what I want to note ... Do you write that, like, Belarus is expensive for Russia? Is it really more expensive than Chechnya? And I also recommend finding Zhirinovsky’s remarks about Belarus, where he talks about how much Russia will have to SIMULTANEOUSLY pay for moving missile defense, say, to the Smolensk region ... he mentioned trillions of dollars. This is, just in case ... therefore, from his words, 3-4 billion, which, like, dates from Russia to the budget of Belarus, is just a penny. I no longer mention the tracking and communication station with submarines, which is located in Vileyka. AND? What? Will we continue further?
                У кого там язычок повернулся по поводу того, что белорусы тоже могут воткнуть нож в спину России? У нас, в отличие от иных "партнеров" России очень крепкая память по прошедшим в прошлом войнам ... и мало где так тщательно сохраняется эта память. И мало где снято столько правдивых фильмов о прошлой войне. Поэтому, прежде чем писать всякую белиберду про Беларусь, задайте вопрос своей совести ...
                As for the Old Man, he is not a straightforward person, but he had to be able to manage to preserve the industry, provided that the Russian oligarchs tried to tear it to pieces. Yes, living in Belarus today is not easy, therefore, the country is looking to use its products in different sales markets (in particular, there, whose checkbox is now on my profile). And who is to blame for the fact that she (Belarus) was the assembly shop of the USSR? So you have to live with this heritage. But Russia, with no offense, was told, bathing in oil and gas, forgot about its fields, enterprises, and forests, it started into discord and only under the conditions of sanctions began to understand its true purpose - to be a state-civilization !!! And I really want more spits (I can’t call it another way) towards little Belarus.
                With fraternal greetings hi
                1. ARES623
                  ARES623 30 November 2015 14: 23 New
                  0
                  Quote: SMikhalych
                  You write that, like, Belarus is expensive for Russia? Is it really more expensive than Chechnya?

                  Do not confuse God's gift with fried eggs. Chechnya is the territory of Russia, Belarus is a neighboring, sovereign state with its president.
                  Quote: SMikhalych
                  I also recommend finding Zhirinovsky’s remarks about Belarus

                  If we listen to McCain, then we generally need to recall our embassy, ​​and put the American one. There are enough clowns everywhere. Seriously it is necessary to discuss the statements and actions of real leaders, and not spectators from the stalls.
            2. BaLaLaykin
              BaLaLaykin 27 November 2015 14: 38 New
              -4
              comparisons with a fart are looking at the very point !!! he, too, built himself his best friend
          2. gladcu2
            gladcu2 27 November 2015 17: 58 New
            0
            Ares623

            And the Old Man has his own zone of responsibility, for which he is responsible.

            Launching rockets into space is not his business.

            Only healthy pragmatism and no altruism. He stands for his own, but does not need someone else's.
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 30 November 2015 14: 30 New
              0
              Quote: gladcu2
              And the Old Man has his own zone of responsibility, for which he is responsible.

              I’m embarrassed to ask who measured the area for him. It may be better to designate it with an agreement and fulfill it.
              Quote: gladcu2
              Only healthy pragmatism and no altruism.

              I agree with that on all 100. As Russia has problems with the Balts, then a jamb of sprat immediately entered Belarus. They, too, can smell political winds. A Polish product with Belarusian stickers on top of relatives is nothing personal. You have problems, we have profit. Although what can you expect from a person from under the Canadian flag? You probably will bury your own brother for a fee from his family? Business, ep ...
        4. Sirocco
          Sirocco 27 November 2015 13: 35 New
          +9
          Quote: ANTI.KORR.
          This is not the Old Man's fault, and not the Kremlin’s understandable position on Belarus.

          You can just as well say about prostitutes, they say it’s not their fault, they just winked at them, and harassed them, and so they are virgin.
          Do not write nonsense.
          1. ANTI.KORR.
            ANTI.KORR. 27 November 2015 14: 20 New
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            Quote: Sirocco
            You can just as well say about prostitutes,

            Let your comparisons remain on your conscience.

            It would be interesting to know who in your eyes is the STANDARD of the country's leader on the whole planet Earth for today?
            1. ARES623
              ARES623 27 November 2015 14: 39 New
              +6
              Quote: ANTI.KORR.
              It would be interesting to know who in your eyes is the STANDARD of the country's leader on the whole planet Earth for today?

              First of all, a person with a core to the soul, who knows firmly who is his enemy, who is friend. And if he entered into an alliance with someone, then shared with him both victory and defeat, and sweat, and blood. And Lukashenko seeks to plant his one ass on three chairs in different angles. Not beautiful ....
            2. Sirocco
              Sirocco 27 November 2015 15: 43 New
              +3
              Quote: ANTI.KORR.
              who in your eyes is the STANDARD the leader of the country on the whole planet Earth on today's day?

              Who are you asking about? they themselves understood what they wrote?
              To date, US President Mr. Obama has declared his exclusivity.
              do you probably mean it?
          2. gladcu2
            gladcu2 27 November 2015 19: 06 New
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            Sirocco

            The political structure of the Russian Federation, like two drops of water marching on the political structure of the United States.

            Explain.

            The Russian Federation has the role of an independent player. And private companies play the role of an independent player UNDER THE STATE FLAG. Very often ignoring official policies for the sake of their interests. But when an international conflict arises, then the Russian Federation takes on the protection of its crap partner. The USA, by the way, is doing exactly the same.

            To go far, far is not necessary. Remember the conflict between the Belarusian fertilizer company and its partnership with the Russian side. For some reason, they did not find mutual understanding.

            But for such cases, the Old Man has an army and a river fleet. Since Belarus has only the Old Man, and all the rest are a notch and a flight of stairs below. Old Man takes the answer.
        5. demos1111
          demos1111 27 November 2015 13: 45 New
          -3
          He is not an ally to you, and more importantly, your elite understands this very well. In this spirit, the ekonimka RB is unlikely to survive the five-year plan. Oddly enough, they depend on oil prices much more than you do, despite the fact that they sell your oil. Before the collapse of oil prices, they had up to 7 billion dollars a year.
          The only bad thing is that in the event of an aggravation of relations, which certainly will be, you cannot block the oil of the Republic of Belarus, because connected by a transit pipe. All that remains is the green men in the Gomel region, the Russians will definitely be crushed here, they will not rise.
          Correctly, Nikolai said that you have no allies and these missiles are most likely against you.
          1. botur
            botur 27 November 2015 15: 54 New
            +2
            Quote: demos1111
            Russians here will definitely be crushed, they will not rise.

            Excuse me, but how will you divide the Russians and Belarusians?
        6. BaLaLaykin
          BaLaLaykin 27 November 2015 14: 36 New
          +2
          Добрый день уважаемый!не могли бы поделится ссылкой где Вами сильно уважаемый "батька" высказался по сбитому самолету в турции?или санкции ввел против турок?поддержку высказал России и российскому народу.А ведь это наш первый "ally"!!

          ANTI.KORR.
          As for the people themselves, they were and will be united, and the citizens of the Russian Federation are very sympathetic to the policy pursued by the President of the Republic of Belarus.

          don’t generalize, as for me, he’s no better than his modeled sidekick Poroshenko, and even worse, crap Russia for our money and preferences. contraceptive he used !!
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 27 November 2015 19: 12 New
            0
            Balalaykin

            Why dad to lose your face? He has his own self-esteem.

            The Russian Federation is a powerful player in the political arena to solve its minor problems on its own.

            In this case, there is no question of general security with which Belarus and Russia have an alliance agreement.
        7. MstislavHrabr
          MstislavHrabr 27 November 2015 16: 54 New
          0
          Old Man just takes a chance.
          1. Many Ukrainian designers lost their jobs, and enterprises do not want to work for Russia. Why not use their potential for the benefit of Belarus ?!
          2. Ukraine * (possibly) will fall apart ...
          The West will go to Poland. Southeast-...
          But part of the central regions may move to Belarus ...
          3. Ukraine isolated itself from Russia, in order to sell anything to Europe (except for women's and other services), its possibilities are also small. Accordingly, Belarus is like a life buoy for her, and Old Man is driving around ...
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      3. zennon
        zennon 27 November 2015 15: 55 New
        +6
        Quote: 79807420129
        He’s a dad, he wants to suck milk from three mothers at the same time, all his policies would be better if you please, and money wouldn’t hurt. And I’ll leave the other way.

        Yes, let’s tell me, but tell me it’s not reasonable, why are 6 countries included in the Collective Security Treaty Organization, including Belarus, but is Russia alone in Syria? The same dad could have thrown aircraft too, since the crews would have gained combat experience, and put ammunition, paid for fuel and lubricants ...
        1. prosto_rgb
          prosto_rgb 30 November 2015 04: 06 New
          0
          Quote: zennon
          The same dad could throw aircraft

          could not.
          strained with planes, even sssrovskie. of the new only 4 Yak-130 and all.
          therefore, I took up rockets.
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    4. avt
      avt 27 November 2015 12: 32 New
      +7
      Quote: Good AAAH
      Crimea began to receive electricity through the energy bridge from the Kuban
      http://vz.ru/news/2015/11/27/780594.html

      great news.

      No. Фуфло. Включили вторую турбину на ТЭЦ .До ,,энергомоста" еще работы с месяц , ну в три смены может и короче.
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 27 November 2015 12: 44 New
        0
        Why then in the press they procrastinate? Look like a nonsense is not marked?
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    5. Mihalich17
      Mihalich17 27 November 2015 12: 33 New
      +2
      Not yet. Early rejoice. We wait.
    6. vitaliy.rnd
      vitaliy.rnd 27 November 2015 12: 34 New
      +1
      Refuted ... Bye.
    7. major071
      major071 27 November 2015 12: 34 New
      +8
      DobryAAH
      Crimea began to receive electricity through the energy bridge from the Kuban
      http://vz.ru/news/2015/11/27/780594.html

      great news.


      I have to upset you, but this is not an energy bridge yet
      Шеремет сам опроверг свои слова о начале подачи электроэнергии из Кубани, заявив, что "пока мы выдаем желаемое за действительное".
      "22 мегаватта подала крымская ТЭЦ, которая запустила второй энергоблок. Поэтому пока мы выдаем желаемое за действительное.

      http://www.tass.ru/ekonomika/2478392
    8. aszzz888
      aszzz888 27 November 2015 12: 34 New
      -1
      Crimea began to receive electricity through the energy bridge from the Kuban


      Exactly. The first MW flew to the Crimea! good
      1. ANTI.KORR.
        ANTI.KORR. 27 November 2015 13: 08 New
        +4
        Quote: aszzz888
        Exactly. The first MW flew to the Crimea!

        The usual nonsense of our media sad

        Ratings stuff ... ugh
    9. vitaliy.rnd
      vitaliy.rnd 27 November 2015 12: 35 New
      +3
      The Russian Ministry of Energy refutes information on the supply of the first 22 MW of the energy bridge from the Kuban to the Crimea, TASS reports citing the company's press service.

      “22 megawatts were submitted by the Crimean thermal power station, which launched the second power unit. Therefore, while we give out wishful thinking. Nevertheless, the work (on the construction of the energy bridge) is now at the final stage.
    10. mQn
      mQn 27 November 2015 12: 36 New
      +3
      The Ministry of Energy denies the start of energy supplies on the Kuban-Kerch bridge
    11. alex80
      alex80 27 November 2015 12: 43 New
      +3
      This news has already been refuted: the Kerch region began to receive electricity through the commissioning of a 50 MW unit at the Simferopol Thermal Power Plant from repair, and not through supplies from the Kuban energy bridge, the Ministry of Energy said.
      We are always in a hurry to ur shout.
    12. izya top
      izya top 27 November 2015 12: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Good AAAH
      great news.

      and Baba Yaga (one wit) against belay moron, probably
      Russia's construction of an energy bridge to the Crimea is useless - it will be destroyed by Ukrainian patriots saboteurs. This was announced on the air of NewsOne TV channel by TV host Matvey Ganapolsky.



      “Whatever the Russian Federation does in relation to the arrangement of the Crimea, it will all be blown up, sawn, destroyed and abandoned. Those who will not put up with this. This is not their own steal. They will lay some kind of cable. Well, they will not guard him along the entire length - someone in the scuba gear will surely come up, put explosives and it will explode. I just understand, I feel that no one will forgive and forget, ”said Ganapolsky.
    13. anfil
      anfil 27 November 2015 13: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Good AAAH
      Crimea began to receive electricity through the energy bridge from the Kuban
      http://vz.ru/news/2015/11/27/780594.html

      great news.


      The Krymenergo company has denied the information of the First Deputy Prime Minister of Crimea Mikhail Sheremet about a partial launch of the energy bridge from the Krasnodar Territory; voltage was supplied to Kerch due to the commissioning of a second turbine at the Simferopol TPP, the company’s press service said. The Ministry of Energy of Russia refutes information on the supply of the first 22 MW via the energy bridge from the Kuban to the Crimea, TASS reports citing the company's press service.

      “22 megawatt was submitted by the Crimean thermal power station, which launched the second power unit. Therefore, while we give out wishful thinking. Nevertheless, the work (on the construction of the energy bridge) is now at the final stage. In the near future, we will have a meeting on the start of electricity supplies from the Kuban. All work is being carried out in a very strict schedule, around the clock, ”said the First Deputy Prime Minister of Crimea Mikhail Sheremet.
    14. inkass_98
      inkass_98 27 November 2015 13: 20 New
      +1
      Already refuted: http://www.rg.ru/2015/11/27/reg-kfo/nemost-anons.html
    15. Kapralwdw
      Kapralwdw 27 November 2015 13: 41 New
      0
      unfortunately this is not so !! google!
    16. zennon
      zennon 27 November 2015 16: 08 New
      0
      Quote: Good AAAH
      Crimea began to receive electricity through the energy bridge from the Kuban
      http://vz.ru/news/2015/11/27/780594.html

      great news.

      Not a ...
      The Ministry of Energy of Russia has denied information about the supply of 22 MW of electricity through the energy bridge from the Kuban to the Crimea. This was reported on the website of the department.
      “The voltage to Kerch was indeed supplied today, but due to the commissioning of a 50 megawatt block from the repair at the Simferopol TPP,” the ministry said. - Kerch consumers were powered using existing distribution networks on the Crimean peninsula.
      Recall that today, the first deputy prime minister of the Crimean government, Mikhail Sheremet, at the beginning of the meeting of the interagency commission for monitoring public safety in the Council of Ministers of the Republic of Kazakhstan said that the first megawatts had been supplied via the energy bridge. At the end of the event, he refuted his own words.
    17. Absurdidat
      Absurdidat 27 November 2015 17: 55 New
      +1
      What a great news. He went to his pants with joy from the wisdom of our officials, from their patriotism and care, foresight. Just that week people were tormented. And how much is the cable to the Crimea? Against the background of 16 billion rubles paid for the construction of an unnecessary stadium in Krasnodar, our brothers are forever Turks? The stadium in Krasnodar is such a colossus dear, in order to get there and join the fan culture of a loaf and scuffle you have to pay. How many balls for sixteen lard could be made, not bought abroad, made with us, could it be? Yes, in short ...
  2. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 27 November 2015 12: 24 New
    +2
    A very ambitious project.
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 27 November 2015 12: 32 New
      +1
      КР "АИСТ" других названий что-ли нет? Или это модернизация мотоцикла? laughing
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 30 November 2015 04: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Kil 31
        КР "АИСТ" других названий что-ли нет? Или это модернизация мотоцикла? laughing

        это как операция "Ы"
        so as not to guess wink
        father is such a comedian. laughing
  3. Terrible_L.
    Terrible_L. 27 November 2015 12: 24 New
    13
    Братья-белорусы, "Аист" как-то цинично звучит, аист детей в дом должен приносить. Обращайтесь к нам, мы вам название подберём!
    1. Tanker55
      Tanker55 27 November 2015 12: 30 New
      +3
      Well noticed, ours just for a word in your pocket will not go! Solid PLUS!
    2. avt
      avt 27 November 2015 12: 33 New
      14
      Quote: Scary_L.
      Братья-белорусы, "Аист" как-то цинично звучит, аист детей в дом должен приносить. Обращайтесь к нам, мы вам название подберём!

      Например -,,Дятел" wassat
      1. ANTI.KORR.
        ANTI.KORR. 27 November 2015 13: 43 New
        +3
        Quote: avt
        For example - ,, Woodpecker

        I'm patstalom laughing laughing laughing
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    3. 0255
      0255 27 November 2015 12: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: Scary_L.
      Братья-белорусы, "Аист" как-то цинично звучит, аист детей в дом должен приносить. Обращайтесь к нам, мы вам название подберём!

      У вас огнемётная система называется "Буратино". Штука хорошая, но по-моему у неё бредовое название.
      1. avt
        avt 27 November 2015 12: 46 New
        +6
        Quote: 0255
        У вас огнемётная система называется "Буратино". Штука хорошая, но по-моему у неё бредовое название.

        Учли Ваши пожелания и продолжение линейки машин назвали скромно и обыденно - ,,Солнцепек"
      2. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 27 November 2015 12: 50 New
        +2
        Well, did he nose a hole in the outbreak (at the enemy’s position)?
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    4. Konstantin Yu
      Konstantin Yu 27 November 2015 13: 23 New
      0
      Название: " Извините,так вышло".. на все случаи...
  4. marlin1203
    marlin1203 27 November 2015 12: 26 New
    +6

    And the most important thing is to prevent the further rapprochement of Minsk and Beijing, so that China could not become a strategic military-political partner for Minsk instead of Russia. Otherwise, in the long term, Moscow could lose its main ally in the western direction.
    what nonsense? belay how can China replace Russia for Belarus strategically?
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 27 November 2015 12: 40 New
      0
      Quote: marlin1203
      belay how can China replace Russia for Belarus strategically?

      "На Белоруско-Китайской границе всё спокойно!" - Недождутся!
    2. ermak.sidorov
      ermak.sidorov 27 November 2015 13: 10 New
      +2
      Yes Easy! Chinese fleet off the Belarusian coast and know-how laughing
      ... to give this article to Zhenya Psaka to read ... she would immediately give birth to the second from such a situation fellow
    3. trantor
      trantor 30 November 2015 05: 42 New
      0
      Quote: marlin1203
      what nonsense? belay how can China replace Russia for Belarus strategically?

      and vice versa :)
  5. Engineer
    Engineer 27 November 2015 12: 26 New
    +5
    They lifted sanctions for 4 months as soon as Old Man rebelled. He would have thought better who would need his products later, especially all sorts of MAZs and MZKT, if Russia refuses them. Kamaz is not in vain testing its tractor. By the way, the Crimea Batko did not recognize ours ...
    1. Lex.
      Lex. 27 November 2015 14: 11 New
      +4
      Engineer RU  Today, 12:26


      They lifted sanctions for 4 months as soon as Old Man rebelled. He would have thought better who would need his products later, especially all sorts of MAZs and MZKT, if Russia refuses them. Kamaz is not in vain testing its tractor. By the way, the Crimea Batko did not recognize ours ...
      By the way, you are aware of the Belarusian management system in the Iskander and for Iskander at the MZKT they are developing a new car with a smooth ride even better less regnums you need to read Lukashenko is an ally and not a vassal
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 27 November 2015 18: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: Lex.
        By the way, you are aware of the Belarusian management system in the Iskander and for Iskander at the MZKT they are developing a new car with a smooth ride even better less regnums you need to read Lukashenko is an ally and not a vassal

        To make it more legible, you need to select the text of the previous commentator that you want to comment on and click on to quote, it will turn out approximately like mine with respect to yours, you will not need to rewrite it.

        Congratulations on the abolition of visas between our states.
        1. Lex.
          Lex. 27 November 2015 18: 27 New
          +2
          Mutually, our embassy was again closed for the second time.
  6. fregina1
    fregina1 27 November 2015 12: 26 New
    +1
    If the dad will not vyё .... then you can buy in a common boiler .... but if e ..... then .. they will have nothing ..
  7. Dezinto
    Dezinto 27 November 2015 12: 27 New
    +6
    Old Man is slightly annoying with his balancing act ...

    These jerks all the time ..... it is not clear he is at a loss, or is there a clear plan of action?

    And what to expect?

    1. Konstantin Yu
      Konstantin Yu 27 November 2015 12: 59 New
      +4
      .. There is a clear and permanent plan of action -to have Russia. They fed a pancake to a neighbor, but everything is not enough for him ...
    2. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 27 November 2015 18: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: DEZINTO
      These jerks all the time ..... it is not clear he is at a loss, or is there a clear plan of action?

      And what to expect?

      The dad doesn’t agree with the loan, the problem is with budget holes, the Russians are buying all Volvo and Kamatsu, but the Ukrainians have no money, that's the problem.
  8. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 27 November 2015 12: 31 New
    +1
    It’s not very convenient to walk the dog on a leash when the dog wants to break loose all the time!
  9. avt
    avt 27 November 2015 12: 31 New
    +5
    ,,Здраствуй аи-и-ист , здраствуй псица .." Ну если сделают - будет.Почему нет ?
    And the most important thing is to prevent the further rapprochement of Minsk and Beijing, so that China could not become a strategic military-political partner for Minsk instead of Russia. Otherwise, in the long term, Moscow could lose its main ally in the western direction.
    wassat laughing ,,Шеф!Все пропало ! Клиент уезжает ! Гипс снимают!"Ой -вэй ! Я таки посмотрю с удовольствием на китайские выражения лица , которым Бацка будет втирать , как нам, ,,Мы вас засшисщяем! У вас же на западе ничего нет!" laughing
    . Another question, what made Belarus, in conditions of economic difficulties, force its missile program?
    ,,Понты , голимые понты . На них ведутся телки лохи и менты..."
    Despite the fact that Russia's recent policy towards Belarus is unlikely to seriously threaten allied relations, the development of its own missile program could drastically reduce the Kremlin’s influence on Lukashenko.
    laughing А что ? Кремль когда нибудь реально ,,влиял" Бацку ? Ну вот реально в соответствии с вложенными в него средствами ?Как то за базар спрашивал конкретно по братски хотя бы ?
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 27 November 2015 14: 47 New
      0
      Yes, let them do it, if only then they would start selling to anyone.
  10. tomket
    tomket 27 November 2015 12: 31 New
    +1
    Campaign dad makes an argument for Putin.
    1. avt
      avt 27 November 2015 12: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: tomket
      Campaign dad makes an argument for Putin.

      Which hike No. -Do not roll the ski Butsk on the asphalt, got up early on the ski laughing Визит у Кремль отложен ,,из за загруженности сторон" типа текущей работой .Что в переводе на русский - денег не дам , не проси и не шантажируй - не прокатит.
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 27 November 2015 18: 30 New
        0
        Quote: avt
        Визит у Кремль отложен ,,из за загруженности сторон" типа текущей работой .Что в переводе на русский - денег не дам , не проси и не шантажируй - не прокатит.

        But Ukrainians have three billion on a saucer.
        Quote: avt
        - they don’t roll the puck ski on the asphalt,
        .
        The way out can sometimes be found.
        1. avt
          avt 27 November 2015 18: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          But Ukrainians have three billion on a saucer.

          Well, we’ll return it specifically with the dish, and then we’ll take something from their service.
          Quote: saturn.mmm
          The way out can sometimes be found.

          Can . Just because of this, Butska prefers to go roller-skating in winter in relations with GDP and roller-skiing in the summer. Here's how with a base about which the EN has never heard of. Brakes specifically, not to mention the single currency. Note - no one pulled his tongue about her. Well, and the result of these pokatushek
          Quote: avt
          Визит у Кремль отложен ,,из за загруженности сторон" типа текущей работой .
          Moreover, there is no place to rush the GDP - it can work on other matters.
  11. AlexTires
    AlexTires 27 November 2015 12: 32 New
    0
    Well done Belarusians! Do not wait when they knock with their fist from the west - if that, then they will answer with a sledgehammer)))) angry
    1. lopvlad
      lopvlad 27 November 2015 15: 01 New
      +4
      Quote: AlexTires
      if that, then the sledgehammer will answer


      only to whom? You cannot answer with the strengths of this world with one missile, but you really need thousands on combat duty and thousands in warehouses. This Belarus will never pull.
      From the father’s ambitions the Belarusian military and scientists immediately grab their heads without knowing where to run.
      1. SMikhalych
        SMikhalych 27 November 2015 21: 30 New
        -2
        Quote: lopvlad
        From the father’s ambitions the Belarusian military and scientists immediately grab their heads without knowing where to run.

        And what, these words have real confirmation or Moishe sang Caruso’s aria? Shake the dust off the shoulder straps, politician you are our homegrown negative
  12. Name
    Name 27 November 2015 12: 34 New
    +1
    "Халява"- it's like the flu - infection. Зараженный- Белоруссия. Что сделаешь,- "иммунодефицит" к Западным "ценностям". Слава яйцам МЫ этим уже "переболели".
  13. Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 27 November 2015 12: 35 New
    +5
    Alexander Grigorievich, of course, is a remarkable person, but he really likes to get out of it.
    Here with the airbase in Bobruisk, the old man finally juggled.

    "At the word "Bobruisk" the assembly groaned painfully. Everyone agreed to go to Bobruisk even now. Bobruisk was considered a wonderful, highly cultured place. ” ("Золотой Телёнок". И.Ильф, Евг. Петров)
  14. lopvlad
    lopvlad 27 November 2015 12: 35 New
    +5
    with or without Russia

    Without Russia, Belarus itself would not exist.

    Quote: DEZINTO
    Old Man is slightly annoying with his balancing act ...


    this is the national policy of Belarus (live off the markets and loans from Russia and move to Europe).
    Этакий жупел в исполнении власти Белоруссии "Мы прикрываем Россию со стороны Запада" напоминает мне вопль Яценюка "Украина защищает Европу от агрессии России".
    If Belarus does not change its mind, the fate of Ukraine awaits.
    1. epsilon571
      epsilon571 27 November 2015 13: 30 New
      +4
      I already wrote about the coalition and the so-called CSTO. All of them are sticky. Russia is not a cash cow and will not be swollen for everyone! At least you yourself will notice, not a single support from the comrades, not a single approving article, not to mention material assistance. Who the hell needs such a coalition, I would have such friends for ... and the museum! The situation shows Russia all alone, and this is sad, since it can be torn. We are all talking about a new economic policy, which still does not exist, we can clearly see two castes, gas tycoons who think only of their own pockets and let everything go on the brakes, and the people who seek to revive their former power, who will win, will be our long-suffering Power!
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  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 27 November 2015 12: 36 New
    +4
    Recognized Lukashenko equilibrist in relations with the West and the East

    I completely agree with the author in this part. But to stand on a plate that is on cylinders and at the same time juggle for a long time is not possible. Sooner or later, you have to choose. But in relation to China and Belarus, the author clearly exaggerated.
  16. aszzz888
    aszzz888 27 November 2015 12: 36 New
    0
    But father, father. He is a strange man and president.
    But only for people would be good.
  17. Budilnik
    Budilnik 27 November 2015 12: 37 New
    0
    Как бы я не относился к "батьку", если у него появится длинная рук, ну хотя бы достающая до лондонских пед....ов, я его зауважаю. Миролюбивая риторика только уходит в лета...
  18. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 27 November 2015 12: 38 New
    +4
    Ключевая проблема - финансирование. И для разработки серьезных изделий необходим научный потенциал. Опыт поколений ученых, школа. Тут же все должно быть создано фактически с нуля. Наши сколько "Калибр" создавали? Это при нехилом (кратно большем) финансировании, научном потенциале и наработках еще советских времен. И мало создать: надо еще произвести и оснастить. Сам здесь живу почти 10 лет, так вот сейчас такая ж..... настала... Но в любом случае, идти вперед надо.
  19. individual
    individual 27 November 2015 12: 39 New
    10
    Belarus, Belarus!
    And where is our union state in the war with ISIS?
    Where is the firm position on Turkey’s brazen trick?
    1. ded-mazai
      ded-mazai 27 November 2015 12: 47 New
      +7
      And Kazakhstan is silent. Disorder
      1. avt
        avt 27 November 2015 12: 56 New
        +6
        Quote: ded-mazai
        And Kazakhstan is silent. Disorder

        Why should NAS jump out of its pants? He said, EAU is only business - nothing personal, in the sense of politics and supranational governance structures. And business is a cartel conspiracy, no more. Here they are all sitting and sorting out vectors in multi-vector politics.
    2. paxil
      paxil 27 November 2015 13: 32 New
      +3
      Quote: individ
      Belarus, Belarus!
      And where is our union state in the war with ISIS?
      Where is the firm position on Turkey’s brazen trick?

      I have not been surprised for a long time that Lukashenko behaves like a capricious girl, give, give, give, and not let me go to Europe. Belarus has a planned economy, he has long said that private business will put pressure. The economy works at the expense of cheap Russian energy sources (cheaper than in our country) and the debts are still large, all the time Russia gives loans almost interest-free and everything is small for him. stop did he recognize Abkhazia and South Ossetia? Then he will also say that the Turks were right and did that they shot down our plane.
      It would be time for Putin to remind him if an ally behaved like an ally not as a mess.
  20. van zai
    van zai 27 November 2015 12: 40 New
    +6
    Marlin, Engineer, Frigina. How does Belarus annoy you? What does not dance open to the tune of your oligarchs? Dancing, and for a long time. But father just plays independence. In fact, we have long been an appendage of Big Brother. Relax.
    1. paxil
      paxil 27 November 2015 13: 36 New
      0
      Quote: van zai
      Marlin, Engineer, Frigina. How does Belarus annoy you? What does not dance open to the tune of your oligarchs? Dancing, and for a long time. But father just plays independence. In fact, we have long been an appendage of Big Brother. Relax.

      Belarus is not annoying, Belarusians are good sincere people. It's just that the Old Man sometimes is not entirely adequate, it seems that he is a person, the mood is sometimes pleasant to listen to, and sometimes it carries such a blizzard. Yes, it was just a bad mood laughing
  21. python82
    python82 27 November 2015 12: 43 New
    0
    Dad Minsky is able to manually change landscapes - an agronomist.
  22. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 27 November 2015 12: 52 New
    +2
    Сами себе растим второго Ирдогана.. в Кургане развалили завод колесный тягачей(те что ракеты возят)все заказы отдали Минскому заводу..типа "помогать же надо братскому соседу". Теперь усатый опять свои кульбиты показывает.Задолбал своим шатанием. На Кадырова больше надёжи, чем на этого шатуна.
    1. ruskih
      ruskih 27 November 2015 14: 12 New
      +2
      "Растим" говоришь, детка. Ну может и не помнишь 1995 год, когда до этого многие русские думали остаться или уехать.Открой и посмотри очень внимательно, что было в Этом году в России (я думаю многие из Вас это хорошо помнят)и в мае 1995г в Беларуси, и какие 3 обязательных вопроса были. Мальчики откройте Ваши записные книжки и посмотрите сколько сослуживцев живут до сих пор здесь.
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 30 November 2015 04: 20 New
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        Quote: ruskih
        Well, maybe you don’t remember 1995, when before that many Russians thought to stay or leave

        Do not just stagger the boat.
        This story in Belarus begins in 1994.
        And in Russia since January 1, 2000.
        That's why they don’t talk about what happened in the mid-90s. For there was nothing.
  23. SR1959
    SR1959 27 November 2015 12: 52 New
    -5
    Бред сивой кобылы под соусом "а ля знаток"! Комментаторы в большинстве своем также не блещут ни знаниями ни представлениями ни о технике ни о политике!
    1. Konstantin Yu
      Konstantin Yu 27 November 2015 13: 11 New
      +3
      .. Ohhh .. Here OH- A ​​real specialist and expert on us lit up ... Let's give out some pearl .. Let's evaluate it.
  24. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 27 November 2015 12: 53 New
    0
    Скажу так, хотя говорил об этом и раньше ни сколько не подвергаю суверенитет бывших республик СССР, но вот честно все они, за исключением прибалтов, не дотягивают по мнению запада, повторюсь именно запада до "высоких планок"демократии и что бывает с такими странами они знают, что сдерживает, всем понятно тень которая маячит за спиной республик в виде РОССИИ и пока она есть вряд ли кто, что то с ними сделает, второй украины не будет, но и испытывать терпение РОССИИ то же не нужно пусть об этом знают и в республиках.
  25. kit-kat
    kit-kat 27 November 2015 13: 07 New
    -3
    )) что бы белорусы не делали везде "аист" получается. Велосипед - Аист (или бусел), ракета - Аист. Что, там у них ещё из аистов имеется?
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 27 November 2015 18: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: kit-kat
      What, do they have more of the storks there?

      Black stork and black bead.
  26. Jack-b
    Jack-b 27 November 2015 13: 17 New
    0
    Why will the article be skipped? Old Man do not like? So, too, for what? For the fact that he saved our money? He is our ally! He himself (!) Provides his defense! Not at our expense, but myself! What's bad about it? Look at Tajikistan. We (!) Spend money to protect its borders. Do we have this extra money? No, but Tajiks are not able to defend borders themselves. A dad is capable. So what are the cons?
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    2. Konstantin Yu
      Konstantin Yu 27 November 2015 14: 26 New
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      [quote = Jack-B] Why will the article be dropped? Old Man do not like? So, too, for what? For the fact that he saved our money?

      Какие он деньги спас?? Те деньги, что ему заказами ушли, а нашим предприятиям не достались? Наши заводы банкротят, чтобы конкуренции у батьки не было, а то вдруг "братушкам" продавать некуда будет...
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 27 November 2015 18: 49 New
        +1
        Quote: Konstantin Yu.
        Наши заводы банкротят, чтобы конкуренции у батьки не было, а то вдруг "братушкам" продавать некуда будет...

        ....
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  28. Sorokin
    Sorokin 27 November 2015 13: 26 New
    0
    Somehow I remember in Orsha the Flax factory, the Power tool. Did they build something there? Or did they remake Balbasovo? Belarus, who knows?
    1. Gorinich
      Gorinich 27 November 2015 14: 13 New
      0
      The city after the relics became beautiful. Ceased to resemble a dark prison. (One zone out of three was closed, by the way.) They built an ice palace. Nothing was built from large enterprises, but practically nothing was closed. Legmash is completely redesigned, instrumental for a large half. Balbasovo recently worked for Ukraine, but after the 14 year everything died out there.
  29. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 27 November 2015 13: 38 New
    +4
    And, what is the whole production cycle of rockets and machines in Belarus? All these wonderful undertakings come at the expense of cheap energy from the Russian Federation and a sales market consisting of 140 million people. I don’t understand the Russians who admire the successes of the Old Man, roads, order: without cheap energy, and without 140 million sales markets, the Belarusian economy is zilch.
    И если РФ потеряет главного союзника на западном направлении то батька, пытаясь играть в самостоятельность получит майдан, или со стороны США или со стороны РФ. А со стороны РФ ещё и требования выплатить долг. Белоруссия услышит: "Поймите правильно, ни чего личного только бизнес". Хорошо если я ошибаюсь.
    The oligarchs are bad, but explain to me, and who is Lukashenko - it seems to me cooler than the oligarchs (there is at least a president over them) is he the king? if a person has unlimited power, and carries his child everywhere. He is preparing a replacement, there are no decent people in Belarus, the old man had to strain.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 30 November 2015 04: 30 New
      0
      Quote: Kostya Andreev
      occur due to cheap energy from the Russian Federation

      You write as if in Russia enterprises buy energy at world prices, or prices more than in Belarus
  30. luna333
    luna333 27 November 2015 13: 58 New
    0
    we have no brothers or sisters in Belarus. I have been working with them for more than 8 years, these are bastards who are jealous of our successes and who rejoice in our unsuccessful just as children just don’t write to me that all Belarusians are like that ALL again I know more than 50 people we work for some come abroad, others leave, and so for 8 years in conversation they have been drinking hatred of Russia for a sniper (they have such a saying. They wait until someone picks up a bow) call us Russians alkogoliki. zambir media (they drink themselves like dogs. But this time they were very glad that he won like a bow. Why, and because he shows his teeth to Russia, they want to go to Europe, well, just saat boiling water. Saying you don't need it there and your goods shake your head in response. They don’t want to analyze the situation at all about objective statistics. All the Kremlin’s preparations are shouting. I’ll tell you honestly Kirgiz and Kazakhs are better to us than these imaginary brothers. DO NOT NAME THEM OUR BROTHERS.
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    2. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 27 November 2015 14: 34 New
      +4
      That's what I don’t understand, I don’t understand, stomachs. I myself will not give up to the Western pederasts, I will eat the bark only if everyone else surrenders, then I’ll leave for the taiga.
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    4. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 27 November 2015 18: 44 New
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      Quote: luna333
      DON'T CALL THEM OUR BROTHERS; THEY ARE TURNING OUT OF WEDDING THE RUSSIAN WORLD

      What, got thirty pieces of silver?
    5. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 30 November 2015 04: 36 New
      0
      Quote: luna333
      ... in conversations, only hatred of Russia ... They don’t want to analyze the situation at all ...
      ... DO NOT CALL THEM OUR BROTHERS; THEY WORLD TURNS FROM WEDDING ...

      Well, then what is your conclusion?

      Bulbo-Bendera junta led by Rygorovich will still have Russian-speaking babies for a long time, or have they already crucified everyone?
  31. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 27 November 2015 14: 19 New
    -2
    You know, I also worked with Belarusians, I can say that my opinion is completely similar to yours. Just did not write. More proverbs about Russians. We came to eat Russian bread and poured mud on Russia. inferiority complex, because comparing the Republic of Belarus and the Russian Federation is not in favor of the Republic of Belarus
  32. BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 27 November 2015 14: 25 New
    0
    Quote: Good AAAH
    Crimea began to receive electricity through the energy bridge from the Kuban
    http://vz.ru/news/2015/11/27/780594.html

    great news.


    have already denied
    The Krymenergo company has denied the information of the First Deputy Prime Minister of Crimea Mikhail Sheremet about a partial launch of the energy bridge from the Krasnodar Territory; voltage was supplied to Kerch due to the commissioning of a second turbine at the Simferopol TPP, the company’s press service said.
    http://vz.ru/news/2015/11/27/780606.html
  33. Valentine
    Valentine 27 November 2015 14: 29 New
    +5
    Да,братья-христиане,братья-католики,братья-белорусы,как мы будем жить дальше? По родственному,по братски,или как? Как с Украиной,дождавшись от нее нож в спину? Как с "добрососедской" Турцией,которая поступила точно так же? О чем думает ваш "батька",сидящий на трех,перекосившихся стульях
    at the same time, and sometimes he lacks the fourth. He sucks several queens at the same time, and estimates that they’re fools ... One, also so muddy, slippery, also sat on three chairs (RF, EU, USA), and what he received in reply? It's me about Yanukovych, this scum that betrayed and sold his people, plunging him into an international massacre. God forbid, of course, but,
    as you can see, you are turning onto the slippery slope of Yanukovych, which is clearly seen in Lukashenko’s curtsy and rhetoric in front of the United States, not forgetting to denigrate fraternal Russia.
    1. BaLaLaykin
      BaLaLaykin 27 November 2015 14: 56 New
      +1
      а Россия и россияне ему не братья,они его только "ухнэтают".Это он со сракошвили и парашкою в десна сосется,а Путин его "оккупировать" желает
    2. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 27 November 2015 15: 22 New
      +1
      Everything will be easier. After the first receipt of luli to the West from Russia, a sharp drift will begin in our direction, and thrusting languages ​​into your own ass.
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  34. Old26
    Old26 27 November 2015 14: 36 New
    +1
    Quote: Konstantin Y.
    Сами себе растим второго Ирдогана.. в Кургане развалили завод колесный тягачей(те что ракеты возят)все заказы отдали Минскому заводу..типа "помогать же надо братскому соседу". Теперь усатый опять свои кульбиты показывает.Задолбал своим шатанием. На Кадырова больше надёжи, чем на этого шатуна.

    The plant, as far as I know, has not been destroyed. The problem is in the owner, in that he can’t now take part in tenders of the Moscow Region, that he heard this. In addition, the performance characteristics of the Kurgan tractors are not such that they can be used to transport strategists. Therefore, all orders are from Minsk. Whether the KAMAZ chassis will go into a series is still unknown.

    As for the rocket itself, then if the picture corresponds to reality, then the TTX is not so hot
  35. lopvlad
    lopvlad 27 November 2015 14: 37 New
    +3
    Quote: individ
    And where is our union state in the war with ISIS?


    they are only allies in order to sell their goods on the Russian market, to use free transit to Europe through the territory of Russia, to take loans that are unnecessary to give, and when Russia needs support on the world stage, they instantly remember national interests and abstain from voting at the UN (shit policy in the hole).
  36. ARES623
    ARES623 27 November 2015 14: 54 New
    0
    Quote: Valentine
    Yes, Christian brothers, Catholic brothers, Belarusians, how will we live on? By kinship, by brotherly, or what? How is it with Ukraine, waiting for a knife from her in the back?

    We will live peacefully with Belarusians only when we walk under the same capital. We are building. Under supervision. Like in the 70-80s ...
  37. Amatar
    Amatar 27 November 2015 16: 13 New
    +1
    На счет того, что считалось что "такими"средствами поражения станут российские самолеты размещенные на беларуской авиабазе, то это считалось только в России. Лукашенко всегда хотел иметь свои самолеты на своей авиабазе, только их ему никто не дарил. А после событий в Крыму пускать к себе вежливых человечков он и подавно не будет.
    My comment is not an attack on the side of the Russian Federation, but a statement of fact and for once, common sense showed by the president of the Republic of Belarus.
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 29 November 2015 14: 11 New
      0
      Quote: Amatar
      Lukashenko always wanted to have his planes at his air base, but no one gave them to him. And after the events in Crimea, he will not let polite little men come to him.

      The dad had Su-27 airplanes, but he sold them because he had nothing to maintain, as soon as he received a loan from the IMF and the issue with the Russian base was resolved.
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 30 November 2015 04: 41 New
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        Quote: saturn.mmm
        Old Man had Su-27 aircraft, but he sold them

        Exactly Su-27, not MiG-29 and Birch?
      2. Amatar
        Amatar 3 December 2015 09: 17 New
        0
        Those that were flown away for a long time, or you are talking about Indian drying in Baranovichi. So it’s not Fatherland. He could have left them for himself, so no one allowed.
  38. Saratoga833
    Saratoga833 27 November 2015 17: 41 New
    -3
    No matter how praised Lukashenko, for me he was, is and will be a two-faced education! And he is not a friend of Russia, but a fellow traveler with a stone in his bosom! Lives at the expense of Russia, but does not forget to constantly spoil us. Poroshenko’s best friend, it’s not without reason that he officially allowed the broadcast of the Ukrainian TV channel to Belarus. Does not recognize that the Crimea is Russian, does not recognize the independence of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. Regarding the opening of our air base in Belarus, it behaves like the last baffle. He claims that he hears about it for the first time, then give him the planes for nothing, and he will put his pilots on them, then he’s thinking of something else. In terms of trade, he is trying to deceive Russia and profit from food speculation. It turns out in Belarus and pineapples are growing, and tangerines are ripening, and Polish apples, and now, in connection with the events around Turkey, it is trying to sell Turkish goods to us under the guise of Belarusian ones! It does not look like the head of a rather strong state (and this is largely thanks to Russia), but like a petty bazaar reseller. This behavior, in addition to a sense of disgust, does not cause me anything! At one time, I happened to live in the Far East, and in Poland, and in Belarus, and in Turkmenistan, and in Ukraine, and in the North Caucasus. So Belarusians in relation to Russians are the most benevolent people, which cannot be said about Lukashenko!
    1. regsSSSR
      regsSSSR 27 November 2015 21: 58 New
      +2
      Saratoga833
      So Belarusians in relation to Russians are the most benevolent people, which cannot be said about Lukashenko!


      I agree about the people!
      partially about Lukashenko. everything is not so simple and unambiguous as you think. I just wrote repeatedly on this topic! it has many minuses and pluses, however, like absolutely all people, there is no ideal, and all of it is ideal .. and he did quite a lot for the country who would not say anything about him.
      Yes, it is finite in a country in which there is completely no strategic resources; the social Soviet system, albeit modernized for modern realities, works poorly and requires large injections of funds with little return and barely breathes without help from outside, yes it is! Yes, in connection with this, he has to bother to get out not to beg that he likes it but because there simply is no way out to maintain that social system (in general, in my opinion, you can even say a good dream to a Soviet citizen from the time of the collapse of the USSR))) the path he chose for RB in 90 years! Yes, salaries are small, but why should they be big then from the masses of sale (potatoes and milk) or something ?? and therefore the people, of course, dislike Lukashenko no more than yours
      But with all this, Lukashenko managed in 90 not to ditch all sectors of the industry (agriculture, light industry) as Russia, but slowly modernized them step by step! something is successful something is not. here where schyas for example the famous brand of refrigerators zil? where is vyatka washing machine? Where? And the Atlant brand (former Minsk) really works! I’ll read a link to you here at your leisure
      http://portal-kultura.ru/articles/syuzhet/124675-vitek-vmesto-vyatki/
      I am silent about collective farms so far, when crossing the virtual border of states, a huge difference is seen in the state of the fields of pig farm barn! in the Pskov Smolensk region, it’s just sad to look at the abandoned land and decaying farms .. and the gray cities of these regions can not be compared with the Belarusian ones, such as (for example, the border cities of Nevel, Russia and Rossony RB), believe the earth and the sky compared!
      also very high requirements for product quality, especially food, actually the standards of the USSR! and this is a very important plus for the health of future generations! although not all of this understands what a pity.
      Lukashenko managed not to expect! (ala Ukrainians) and preserve the cultural heritage of the history of both Soviet and even tsarist Russia! everything is very cleanly neatly monitored and looked after! (in my opinion, things are even better with Slavic culture, history and the Russian language as a legacy than Russia itself)
      here is an interesting article on this subject http://www.nakanune.ru/articles/111076/
      that is, they haven’t been able to fully penetrate the armor yet! the country has so far been encapsulated after the collapse of the union, many do not understand it, many do not like it, but this is also a huge plus! as for a cultural future heritage!
      Yes, he behaves like a local king on whom the kingdom unexpectedly as if in a fairy tale fell from heaven! and zealously guards what he supposedly created) and saves from the encroachment of the arrogant Moscow oligarchy, which is also constantly trying to snatch something))! and in this way, loud and seemingly formidable statements and languid attempts to flirt with the West come from here BUT he actually has a fairly clear doctrine with an understandable and visible enemy and believe me there is no turning towards the West and not when he is in power and will be ! and certainly about some sort of stabs in the back from Belarus this is complete nonsense and ohineya and trolling!
  39. Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 27 November 2015 19: 47 New
    +1
    IMHO, it would be necessary to stop posting articles like this, which kindle hostility between Belarus and Russia. The author is not offended.
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 30 November 2015 04: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Sukhoy_T-50
      IMHO, it would be necessary to stop posting articles like this, which kindle hostility between Belarus and Russia. The author is not offended.

      The offer is sensible. And I for him with both hands !!!
      But. Alas.
      No need to be Baba Wang to make a simple prediction:
      The number of such articles will only increase.
      And it will end with the Bulbo-Bandera junta, which, under the leadership of Rygorich, is Russian-speaking babies.
      If anyone does not know Russian, the state language in Belarus.
      I hope that I am 100% mistaken in this forecast.
  40. ork_333
    ork_333 27 November 2015 21: 05 New
    0
    Quote: demos1111
    He is not an ally to you, and more importantly, your elite understands this very well. In this spirit, the ekonimka RB is unlikely to survive the five-year plan. Oddly enough, they depend on oil prices much more than you do, despite the fact that they sell your oil. Before the collapse of oil prices, they had up to 7 billion dollars a year.
    The only bad thing is that in the event of an aggravation of relations, which certainly will be, you cannot block the oil of the Republic of Belarus, because connected by a transit pipe. All that remains is the green men in the Gomel region, the Russians will definitely be crushed here, they will not rise.
    Correctly, Nikolai said that you have no allies and these missiles are most likely against you.

    Классно задвинул! Аплодирую стоя! Как только вышла статейка про Беларусь, так и "понесли" "патриоты". Беларусь нам не союзник! Беларусы нам не братья! Лукашенко и пресловутые стулья! Ну как тут не поддержать волну? И читаем все новые и новые комментарии в таком же стиле. Удивило то, что находятся еще люди, пытающиеся переубедить "модных" писарчуков, пытающихся попасть в струю. Но это, практически, невозможно. Тон дискуссии задан и псевдопатриотические болванчики и политико-экономические "аналитики" дружно строчат пророчества. Противно читать. Такое чувство, что в дерьме изваляли свои же братья-славяне. После таких высеров действительно хочется, чтобы русские и беларусы жили за тысячи километров друг от друга. Чтобы не слышать обвинений в том, что Россия кормит, поит и одевает нас, сирых и убогих, а мы такие неблагодарные-независимые ходим со спущенными штанами и все просим-просим-просим...
    1. Kostya Andreev
      Kostya Andreev 27 November 2015 21: 49 New
      +2
      Well, if that's true. So Putin, will start selling oil at world prices, will close trade with Russia and introduce visas, that's all. Sell ​​tractors, mazs, refrigerators to Europe, go work there. Belarusians and other post-Soviet countries behave as if Russia is obliged to them to make discounts to buy goods. But when Russia begins to defend its interests, everyone unanimously recalls independence.
      Belarusians have two options for the future, or in one state with Russia. under the direction of one president, or clean up the poop in the pigsty of Pan Bzdyshek (this is at best).
      By the way, why is it bad if there is one state? Belarusians against?
      1. prosto_rgb
        prosto_rgb 30 November 2015 04: 56 New
        0
        Quote: Kostya Andreev
        By the way, why is it bad if there is one state?

        Do you personally live in which region of Russia and have you been to Belarus?
    2. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych 27 November 2015 22: 00 New
      0
      Quote: ork_333
      It's disgusting to read.

      I agree, it’s disgusting to nausea.
      Тут некто прошелся фразой "разные МАЗы и МЗКТ..." и что КАМАЗ там свой тягач испытавает. Да КАМАЗу до МЗКТ как до Луны ползком. А что касается МАЗа, то рекомендую глянуть фильм 72-го года "Мировой парень" про становление МАЗа на внешних рынках. Что-то КАМАЗом и не пахло тогда. Можно, конечно, упиваться достижениями КАМАЗ-Мастер на ралли-рейдах, но сколько там своего, КАМАЗовского? А МАЗик вышел почти серийный и ничего ... в десяточке первых. И как российский олигархат попытался сожрать МАЗ, настаивая о его объединении с КАМАЗом? А про БЕЛаЗ языки в задницу позатыкали? И про БЕЛКАЛИЙ тоже молчим, поковыривая в носу?
      I really want certain sofa warriors and politicians to clearly understand such a concept as Sovereignty. If they understand, then they will treat their western little neighbor in a completely different way, and not demand from him to regularly push up for and without cause and carry nonsense about the CSTO. So I’d like to write one last thing - don’t exile, brothers, in the 41st Brest Fortress, it fulfilled its mission and, if necessary, Belarus will fulfill its combat mission ...
      1. zennon
        zennon 27 November 2015 23: 30 New
        -1
        Quote: SMikhalych
        do not exile, brethren, in the 41st Brest Fortress completed its task and, if necessary, Belarus will fulfill its combat mission ...

        I’ll cry right now! In the 41st task was performed by the SOVIET PEOPLE. And don’t dare to parasitize on his memory! As for the valiant Belarus, when I enter the Collective Security Treaty Organization I don’t see her glorious sons! Russia alone, and you, like cockroaches Well, it’s clear how to carry out a combat mission, so Russia, and how to push slogans on the forums, then Belarusians have golden hands!
        1. SMikhalych
          SMikhalych 28 November 2015 13: 57 New
          +1
          Quote: zennon
          As for the valiant Belarus, when I enter the CSTO, I don’t see her glorious sons in Syria!

          So read the Regulation on the CSTO, and then spit saliva, wise guy negative
          To whom did Syria turn for help in accordance with the UN Charter, to the CSTO or to Russia? The head must be turned on, not the ass ... the profile picture matches. Shurik correctly brought up - beating ... it determines consciousness ... Fedya laughing
          1. zennon
            zennon 28 November 2015 14: 49 New
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            Quote: SMikhalych
            tin needs to be turned on, not an ass ... an avatar matches. Shurik correctly brought up - beating ... it determines consciousness ... Fedya

            You follow your ass, there will be goals. And now from the provisions on the CSTO:
            The objective of the CSTO is to protect the territorial and economic space of the countries party to the treaty by the joint efforts of the armies and auxiliary units from any external military-political aggressors, INTERNATIONAL TERRORISTS, as well as from natural disasters of large scale.

            ISIS claimed responsibility for the blown up civilian plane with our citizens. By the way, one person on board was a citizen of Belarus. ISIS’s goal is all of Eurasia, including Central Asia and Europe. Yes, Syria turned to Russia, but it also automatically means military-political the union of which Russia is a member. Will be rude to your grandmother, she will not be able to give change.negative
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  41. regsSSSR
    regsSSSR 27 November 2015 21: 55 New
    +1
    Saratoga833
    Lives at the expense of Russia, but does not forget to constantly spoil us. Poroshenko’s best friend, it’s not without reason that he officially authorized the broadcast of the Ukrainian TV channel to Belarus


    sorry belay and cho per channel? maybe I’m not living in that Belarus)), but there weren’t any Ukrainian channels either request
    Well, from Moscow it is probably more visible)) laughing

    In terms of trade, he is trying to deceive Russia and profit from food speculation.


    and you try to get out when a whole country fell under your feet in the 90s and one potato turned out to be strategic resources laughing I’d take a look at you what you would do in a similar situation) and I don’t even want to know where Russia would be somewhere. Does it have oil of platinum nickel gas and other no less strategic resources !!
    1. zennon
      zennon 27 November 2015 23: 39 New
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      Quote: regressSSSR
      and I don’t even want to think where Russia would be. Someday it would have platinum nickel gas oil and other equally strategic resources !!

      Especially for wise men - In reality, the extraction of fuel and energy minerals occupies only 21% in the structure of our industry, while the contribution of oil and gas revenues to Russia's GDP does not exceed 16%.
      So thinking is not for you. Do something useful. Dig a potato.
      1. regsSSSR
        regsSSSR 28 November 2015 05: 16 New
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        zennon
        Especially for wise men - In reality, the extraction of fuel and energy minerals occupies only 21% in the structure of our industry


        beautiful picture) but there is only oil! where is the gas? . and nickel? . What about diamonds? I mean the whole list of strategic resources supplied by the Russian Federation to my overseas (friends)) so that! announce the whole list please laughing and as you know, it makes up about 50-60 percent of the total production sector of the economy, and you will agree that this is completely different numbers! so that's it. and even lower infa for thought!
        you probably don’t know, but when the Russian ruble collapsed in relation to green candy wrappers)) in the wake of sharply cheaper raw materials! and so on the Belarusian ruble, as you know, not tied to any raw materials well, except potatoes, of course winked) at that time didn’t reflect in any way BETTER in any way, that is to say, he didn’t even jerk with respect to the dolor! what couldn’t be said about the Russian ruble, which since the beginning of the fall was worth (for 1000 rubles in the Russian Federation up to 290 tonnes of white rubles) and a month later flew down to (000 thousand rubles in 200 rf) esho slid ALMOST ALMOST 000 times in a month ! belay and it began to cost (140 rb rubles for 000 rf rubles) and if judging (according to your data) even 1000% of the oil could so much crash the ruble exchange rate not only to the dollar, but even to the Belarusian ruble, then I don’t even know what to think wassat
        As a result, Belarus in a horizontal order had to artificially overwhelm its currency against the share to Russian and Kazakhstani realities in order to at least somehow level the trade turnover in the countries of the Eurasian Union (now the rate has been roughly leveled for 260 000 rb give 1000 rubles rf because it turned out such garbage that the goods delivered Belarus from the above events overnight simply became uncompetitive in the CIS countries, having sharply risen in price TWO TIMES! By the way, Belarusians having seen such a freebie simply changed their money and sweeping away all the goods Russian border towns))) bu also buying cars dramatically depreciating well, etc. and etc.) then remember very Lukashenko complained that the accumulated currency of the population simply flies in the Russian Federation)) had to quickly take the above measures)), so that's how! that's what it means not raw materials economy and you are potato potato)) wink ))
        1. Kostya Andreev
          Kostya Andreev 28 November 2015 09: 18 New
          +1
          Well, that's great. Just because no one will buy this product without the Russian market, and Russia will quickly replace it. Well, come with Belarusian rubles to Russia and try to buy something ..
        2. zennon
          zennon 28 November 2015 10: 28 New
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          Quote: regressSSSR
          beautiful picture) but there is only oil! where is the gas?

          Can you read? Black written in Russian, the extraction of fuel and energy minerals occupies only 21% in the structure of our industry. These are both oil and gas and coal. By the way, gas gives significantly less money than oil. As for nickel, etc. ., then the price of all commodities is determined by demand. Now it is very low. Metals are generally very volatile. We are not sitting on goldmines! There is nothing wrong with raw materials production. By the way, how much potassium is in Belarus’s GDP? Gomel region produces more than 1,5 million tons NN of oil per year, and not a little gas? The situation with the raw materials orientation of Russia developed during the Soviet era. The development of these industries is a plus. Another thing is that it is necessary to diversify the economy, which in fact is happening. The share of the fuel and energy sector in the country's economy is decreasing. the share of processing, engineering and food. This process is not fast, but it goes, and only the blind do not see it.
          1. regsSSSR
            regsSSSR 29 November 2015 03: 55 New
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            zennon
            Can you read? Black written in Russian, the extraction of fuel and energy minerals occupies only 21% in the structure of our industry


            Yes, I’ve seen everything perfectly and articles like this one (given on the link below), from where you probably got the picture I read more than once!
            http://mikle1.livejournal.com/5466354.html?thread=119319538
            you just don’t need to consider others as stupid than yourself and tablets to everyone, and so already known, to spread on which the magic word OIL is written in black and white! winked )) do not want to get a stupid answer do not ask stupid questions! Well, I touched you a little, well, I'm sorry) not from evil hi
            (I don’t quite agree) I’m certainly not an economist, it’s difficult for me to figure this out and separate the grains from the chaff! but in order to see the whole picture it is necessary to have all the information for sure, otherwise all Kama will go around in their ears! and I just meant that even if (according to your data) 21% of the percentage could hit the ruble so hard (even in relation to the Belarusian)! then is it worth it to think that for sure something is wrong with these magic percentages))

            .We are not sitting on goldmines! There is nothing wrong with raw materials production


            I did not say that this is bad! I just said that - it would be bad if all this had not happened smile

            Belarus’s GDP is potassium?


            41% of the global potassium market if I am not mistaken

            Belarus produces 17% of all harvesters in the world, 6% of tractors, 6,4% of flax fiber and 2,8% of potatoes, (all wink ) and the share of BelAZ mining dump truck manufacturer in the world market reaches 30%. Producing 1,4% of world milk volumes, the country occupies about 5% in the export of dairy products, and about 11% in butter.

            here is a good little article about the economy of the Republic of Belarus
            http://utmagazine.ru/posts/8766-ekonomika-belarusi
            official data
            http://president.gov.by/ru/economy_ru/
            But nothing that in the Gomel region produces more than 1,5 million tons of oil per year, and not a little gas?

            a little differently, otherwise the situation with the economy would be completely different). firstly, it is the so-called second-rate oil and it is full in Ukraine (expensive processing). secondly, it is completely consumed by the domestic market (that is, it is not exported), which was clearly visible when the Belarusian ruble did not move when the oil price dropped, and this is an absolute indicator that no one wrote on these topics exactly! pancake itself is not enough))
            . The share of the fuel and energy complex in the country's economy is declining. The share of processing, engineering and food will increase. This process is not fast, but it is on, and only the blind can not see it.

            Well, this is wonderful! only if in truth everyone does it!
            a good article too, there’s just time on this topic there will be time to read
            http://portal-kultura.ru/articles/syuzhet/124675-vitek-vmesto-vyatki/
  42. VOROBEICHIK
    VOROBEICHIK 27 November 2015 22: 10 New
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    According to the AHL, everything became clear to me on September 18th, this is when he flew to Sochi to GDP. This is a loan of 3 billion and support. If the GDP wanted to remove the AHL, then it would have received very great approval from the Belarusian people, and everything would have been different.
  43. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 28 November 2015 09: 14 New
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    Maz on foreign markets was driven by the USSR and not Belarus. And how many Belarusian parts in Maz? Well, such a car is good, in the world it will go with a bang and the Russian market is not needed. Sovereignty is when you yourself live, and not at the expense of others and pouring their own mud. And the Brest fortress melted to the last, but didn’t offer the Nazis, we will give you this, and you will give us this, and we will be against the Russians.
    In general, all the comments, full confirmation of my comment.
    Loans must be given, for example, Ukraine.
    1. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych 28 November 2015 14: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Kostya Andrei
      Maz on foreign markets was driven by the USSR and not Belarus. And how many Belarusian parts in Maz? Well, such a car is good, in the world it will go with a bang and the Russian market is not needed. Sovereignty is when you yourself live, and not at the expense of others and pouring their own mud. And the Brest fortress melted to the last, but didn’t offer the Nazis, we will give you this, and you will give us this, and we will be against the Russians.
      In general, all the comments, full confirmation of my comment.
      Loans must be given, for example, Ukraine.

      And who is to blame for the fact that Belarus (there is no such state of Belarus) was made an assembly shop of the USSR? Is it because their minerals, except potassium salts, are not enough? How many Belarusian parts are at MAZ? No. А на КАМАЗе? А на Суперджет-100? Мелочные возражения. Еще раз рекомендую глубоко разобраться в понятии "суверенитет", а не нести бредятину типа "когда сам живешь". И где и когда с белорусской стороны звучало "и мы с вами будем против русских"? Великодержавный шовинизм глаза застилает? Тут парочка "умников" заминусовала мой коммент по поводу предложения представить такие доказательства и стряхнуть пыль с погон ))), но поставить минус, ведь, гораздо проще, чем представить боль-мень реальную доказуху.
      Well, we’re not playing the cons ... hi
      1. Kostya Andreev
        Kostya Andreev 28 November 2015 18: 46 New
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        about KAMAZ and jet, it’s 100% true, but they do not sell discounts and customs in Belarus. The duty in the countries of their sales of the Russian Federation does not beg. And components on these products from countries that buy energy did not grow. domestic prices, but at world prices. Try to sell Maz in the world.
        The presence of the flag, the army is not an indicator of sovereignty. There are few sovereign countries in the world, now Russia is trying to become it.
        You can call chauvinism, but this is the response of the Russians, to the cunning of Belarusians who seek to make little Switzerland at the expense of Russia.
        "и мы с вами будем против русских", а как называется заигрывания с западом.
        Explain: Why do Belarusians dream of Europe?
        Why Belarusians against if there is one state under the control of one president?
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        2. Alibekulu
          Alibekulu 28 November 2015 19: 30 New
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          Quote: Kostya Andreev
          Why Belarusians against if there is one state under the control of one president?
          Ta-nuzheli wink "бульбaши" не хотят Батьку у прэзиденты ВеликоРасеи.. bully

  44. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 29 November 2015 10: 08 New
    +1
    With such sophisticated weapons, the main thing is serial production. Here, as with the Superjet, the normal cost price will start from a couple of hundred a year. Can Belarus provide such a demand without supplies to Russia? If we don’t enter the share, then no. China does not need them, Europe, too ....
  45. Old26
    Old26 29 November 2015 12: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: Zaurbek
    With such sophisticated weapons, the main thing is serial production. Here, as with the Superjet, the normal cost price will start from a couple of hundred a year. Can Belarus provide such a demand without supplies to Russia? If we don’t enter the share, then no. China does not need them, Europe, too ....

    Похоже "Аист" столь же виртуальный пока проект, как и Украинские "Борисфен" и другие
    1. prosto_rgb
      prosto_rgb 30 November 2015 05: 05 New
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      You won’t spoil the zestachaisheg, it’s not Ukraine for you.