Turkey strengthens the border with Syria

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Turkish Defense Ministry sends an additional 20 to the Syrian border tanks, as well as airplanes for patrolling, reports Look with reference to the agency Anadolu.



"Twenty tanks, stationed in the western provinces of Turkey, were transferred by rail to Gaziantep in the south of the country, from where they were escorted to the Syrian border by police and gendarmerie," the agency writes.

It is also reported on the conduct of the largest recent operation to patrol the border. It simultaneously involved X-NUMX F-18 fighters.

“Information about which specific sections of the border were monitored was not provided by the military,” the newspaper notes.

Recall, on Wednesday, President Erdogan said: “Turkey has always advocated peace, dialogue, diplomatic settlement, and after that we will continue to do the same. But let no one expect us to remain deaf and blind to violating our space, our borders, our sovereignty. We have no thoughts to inflate this incident (with Su-24), we only protect our security and the rights of our (Turkmen) brothers. ”
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  1. +38
    26 November 2015 12: 03
    Here, in the Russian spring, an article about the destruction of 20 vehicles on the Syrian border of the Turkish "Humkonvoy" slipped through. It is very symbolic that God will give 20 tanks, and they have a road there.
    1. +8
      26 November 2015 12: 04
      The "friends" began to fuss ...
      1. +39
        26 November 2015 12: 08
        shit-now digging in ... useless, gentlemen, Turks, ISMAIL TOTALLY BEEN CONSIDERABLE FORTRESS ... but our Suvorov convinced everyone otherwise
        1. +10
          26 November 2015 12: 33
          Quote: sasha 19871987
          shit-now digging in.

          I don’t think that they are digging in, they can stupidly draw forces and warriors into the territory of Syria, under the slogans of protecting the Turkmen. What will we do, bomb?
          1. +12
            26 November 2015 12: 41
            If they cross the border with Syria, they can pay for our aircraft with tanks. From a few kilometers, try to determine whose tanks.
            1. +2
              26 November 2015 12: 50
              The border in this place is a purely conventional concept. No demarcation was performed. We can assume that Turkey has already violated the border with Syria.
              And then there's the French aircraft carrier in the rear.
              1. +8
                26 November 2015 12: 58
                The border in this place is a purely conventional concept. No demarcation was performed. We can assume that Turkey has already violated the border with Syria.
                those. you want to say when they shot down our plane, the border was. and when the tanks of Turkey go they will not formally violate the border, since there is no demarcation? it is clearly marked on military maps, so the lack of demarcation of borders will not be an occasion for an unhindered and unpunished violation of the border.
              2. +1
                26 November 2015 15: 58
                The French are not friends with the Turks. They do not let them into the European Union either.
            2. 0
              26 November 2015 18: 14
              Little of! We already warned them ten times, but they did not react!
          2. +2
            26 November 2015 13: 06
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            .What are we going to bomb?

            The 20 tanks that pulled it up are junk with 105-110 mm trunks of another 60s of production. They do not pose a serious danger even to the t-90.
            If they enter the territory of Syria, then consider this a direct urge to war and 2 options:
            1) the destruction of any forces illegally arriving in Syria
            2) minimizing the entire operation and go home!
            but the consequences of the second paragraph will be extremely deplorable.
            1. 0
              26 November 2015 15: 12
              Most likely 2 points will not be, I think Iran will declare war on Turkey, and ours will remain to help Syria.
          3. +4
            26 November 2015 13: 12
            Alexander Romanov ...... I don’t think they are digging in, they can stupidly pull forces and fight into Syria under the slogan of protecting the Turkmen. What are we going to do, bomb?

            The question, of course, is interesting. It is quite acceptable that they were given such an attitude. Why did Erdogan fly to Obama? Could report the situation by phone. But no, I had to get
            developed action plan. One thing has long been clear
            Americans stubbornly seek to drag Russia into a major regional war in Europe or Asia. No matter where, Georgia, Ukraine, Transnistria, the Baltic states, Central Asia or China.
            The most trump option is Turkey. Therefore we need to be
            extremely attentive, so as not to get into provocations.
          4. +2
            26 November 2015 13: 36
            At the request of the legitimate government of Syria, as an option.
          5. +4
            26 November 2015 13: 39
            not only to bomb, but to destroy with all possible forces and means as accomplices of terrorists in Syria ... As potentially dangerous forces and aggressors ... And the closure of the strait for the ships of the Russian Federation should be equated to the closure of all economic relations including energy and, of course, the recognition of Kurdistan in Turkey with the immediate provision of military (in the form of armaments) and financial assistance ... Then they definitely will not have anything to do ... they will be able to experience what external financing of Turkey’s internal problems is.
          6. +2
            26 November 2015 13: 40
            If the Syrian government asks, why not?
            1. -1
              26 November 2015 13: 55
              Quote: KraDI
              If the Syrian government asks, why not?



              Because officially Russia is not at war with Turkey.
          7. 0
            26 November 2015 15: 16
            At the official request of the legitimate Assad, relying on UN resolutions on the "aggressor countries" - BOMB ... And nothing will happen ...
          8. +1
            26 November 2015 15: 56
            After Moscow's approach to Latakia, Erdogan banned aviation flights. And without aviation, only 20 tanks is nothing.
          9. 0
            27 November 2015 02: 00
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: sasha 19871987
            shit-now digging in.

            I don’t think that they are digging in, they can stupidly draw forces and warriors into the territory of Syria, under the slogans of protecting the Turkmen. What will we do, bomb?

            And what else remains to be done, because it will not be written on them - Akhtung TURKEY ...
            Quote: The Cat
            Because officially Russia is not at war with Turkey.

            already fighting, from the moment of drying down ...
          10. 0
            27 November 2015 16: 14
            again "everything is gone"?
      2. +9
        26 November 2015 12: 08
        Quote: dorz
        The "friends" began to fuss ...
        No need to write anymore - friends are in quotes! We must clearly say - ENEMIES!
      3. +6
        26 November 2015 12: 12
        I hope that parcels with "Cornets" have already been sent to the Kurds and we are still waiting for the planes of the little ones to violate the airspace of Syria.
        1. +2
          26 November 2015 12: 22
          ..... we are still waiting for the airplanes to break Syrian airspace ....

          .... No need to wait .... There is very little flying time from the Irzhilik air base to the Syrian border .... Watering for lead ..... Each aircraft closer than 100 km from the border is considered dangerous and attacking ..... Then will be good ... hi
      4. +4
        26 November 2015 12: 13
        Strengthen, strengthen ... Clay more thickly with tyn, smear where it is not enough, ask the farty for a thin one, now he has a lot of oh.
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      6. +2
        26 November 2015 13: 04
        Only one suggestion that the Turkish Ministry of Defense sent an additional 20 tanks to the Syrian border, as well as airplanes for patrolling, reports Vzglyad citing Anadolu agency.
        And what if you declare that nuclear warheads are installed on the "calibers"? Erdogan's eyes will probably fall out in general then. Otherwise, he is in the photo with bulging eyes and looks like an urk.
    2. +15
      26 November 2015 12: 05
      I looked at the composition of the army and navy of Turkey, such rubbish is old. The only thing is there are several hundred Leopards of several modifications.

      From the Turkish press it became known that 20 trucks were destroyed (by blow and subsequent fire), 7 people died and 10 more were injured.
      1. +21
        26 November 2015 12: 07
        That's what the violation of the rules for operating air conditioners leads to. laughing
      2. +12
        26 November 2015 12: 10
        Svidomye groan, shaw swear mos.kali bombed a humanitarian convoy. Sympathize with the very twin from the IG.
        1. +4
          26 November 2015 12: 15
          Yes, they regret that they couldn’t steal here too
        2. +7
          26 November 2015 12: 28
          never mind. Svidomo is simple .... they want Europe to pay extra for moans.
      3. +6
        26 November 2015 12: 19
        Quote: Sith Lord
        From the Turkish press it became known that 20 trucks were destroyed (by blow and subsequent fire), 7 people died and 10 more were injured.

        The comments under the video, as always pleasing, are only against dill and a couple of Arabs, and the former still do not know that they are daish enemies too.
      4. +5
        26 November 2015 12: 20
        And where are the corpses and funnels from the bombs in the video? And what are the dump trucks doing in the GUM convoy?
        1. +6
          26 November 2015 12: 31
          ... and fuel trucks disguised as trucks, take a closer look Vintorez!
      5. +3
        26 November 2015 12: 35
        From the Turkish press it became known that 20 trucks were destroyed (by blow and subsequent fire), 7 people died and 10 more were injured.

        I see one car burning in the middle of nowhere and it’s not clear why. I will not be surprised that they will soon say that the Russian intelligence services arranged the bombings in Ankara.
      6. -7
        26 November 2015 13: 12
        You have forgotten about the Turkish air fleet 400 aircraft, 160 f-16s, "avaks" "patriots" fleet is 4 times larger than the Russian Black Sea Fleet. The closure of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles in the event of a war according to the Montreux Convention, as a result of the blockade of our forces in Syria, etc.
        We were pulled into Syria by our oil companies, and in the end we will get a blocked cargo flow from the Black Sea to the oceans.
        We started bombing on September 30 before our plane was blown up (October 31). So the idea of ​​holy vengeance does not pass.
        1. +3
          26 November 2015 14: 09
          Zakhara: In addition to the planes and the fleet, you forgot about the fact that the Turks will have under a million infantry and cannons and a tank. It's all clear that the Turks will have the third army in Europe. But the problem is different. The air defense system is not very good, everything keeps on German "Petriots". In the event of war, there will be no current blockade. And the advantage in the fleet is not so significant due to the fact that from the Crimea we shoot through almost the entire Black Sea with ground complexes. Even without the use of nuclear weapons, we can inflict simple warheads on Turkey irreparable destruction of industry and communications, supply bases. The whole problem is that Turkey is chelen (I was not mistaken wassat ) NATO. Allies will subscribe for them or not in case of global turmoil (the Greeks would have helped us on occasion) But you are completely wrong about the oil industry, the whole tragedy of Syria in the refusal of Assad to the Qatars and Turks in laying gas pipelines on their territory. there are not so many in Syria, most of them went to their own needs. And the revenge on the Turks is hindering in full.
          1. -1
            26 November 2015 17: 54
            The air defense system is not very much, but there is a lot of it and it is everywhere. "Patriot" is American.
            They also shoot everything there. In Turkey, the base of NATO and the United States. How to be
        2. 0
          26 November 2015 14: 41
          3axap82 SU Today, 13:12 ↑ New
          We were pulled into Syria by our oil companies, and in the end we will get a blocked cargo flow from the Black Sea to the oceans.


          You are absolutely right, oil tycoons in our country are a special caste, they are very concerned about their own pocket. The proof of their ebullient activity for us is the entire economic policy of recent years.
          1. 0
            26 November 2015 17: 29
            It sometimes seems to me that this fuss with Syria began because of the conflict of some transnational corporations that are located in one country. Russia is very convenient for "fixing TNK-disassembly" as it is not a NATO member. For example, you cannot use France to infringe on the economic interests of Turkey or Germany, and we are a state from the outside, strong enough, on the other hand, our elite is dependent. That is why all sorts of Bloombergs and the Times sing songs about effective Putin, they scare him, they promote him. Paradox!? But no!
            We have long been a part of the world market and the world cap. systems. Russia produces almost nothing, there are no new enterprises left, only old ones that bring good profit, they have been modernized and used. For example, in the "defense industry" (by the way, Anatoly "Taburetkin" Serdyukov moved there as the deputy of the concern's division), we sell a large share of weapons that the Russian Army itself is often not equipped with.
            1. +2
              26 November 2015 19: 20
              Zakharu. On the account of the Turkish air defense, I fundamentally disagree with you. And in assessing the capabilities of the Turkish army and navy. A large number of submarines with torpedo weapons in the Black Sea is useless, due to the shallow depths and short distances from the air and naval bases. the surface fleet has serious ships with good air defense, but without strike weapons (by land) And the Patriot battery is German (the Germans provided it with the personnel), after a positive decision on Iran's nuclear program, the Bundestag wanted to roll the system home, the Americans asked to leave more for a year (by the way, all the costs of the battery are borne by the Germans) And at the expense of the defense industry I agree to do everything, Stalin is hoping for a revival.
              1. 0
                26 November 2015 19: 34
                Turkey - Bantustan? )) There are no strategic air defense systems? !! One battery ?! I am surprised ... I considered them full members of NATO.
                Just the balance of power in the region suggests that there will not be an easy and quick victory, and will it really be? No, of course, if you pull up forces from the center of Russia, then yes ...
                But NATO would not have gotten involved at all if they had answered immediately, this is the norm of behavior for strong countries, it has always been. Wars are not started for a random reason; they are started for an overdue reason. And now they saw Putin's weakness and will press and frighten to the last, they may even show on TV a trained monkey in the White House with a red telephone.
                1. +1
                  26 November 2015 19: 51
                  The Patriot is, in principle, considered a missile defense system (well, the Americans are silent about the possibility of striking this system against ground targets) and, so to speak, long-range air defense. Without their own system, the Turks in mid-2000 put up a competition for the purchase of long-range air defense systems (even Russia was announced with S-300, where we were shaved in favor of China) In 15, Turkey went into denial with the Chinese, deciding to develop its own system (I just don't remember now, either with Israel or with the Europeans) but for the systems of medium and small defeat there is a team hodgepodge.
      7. 0
        26 November 2015 14: 53
        And in my opinion, it is the Americans who are to blame, they are used to fumbling construction equipment.
      8. 0
        26 November 2015 19: 53
        This face is sawn into Internet memes and demotivators. Wang!
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    4. +15
      26 November 2015 12: 06
      we only protect our security and the rights of our (Turkmen) brothers. ”

      And we protect the Kurdish and Syrian brothers! ... All of Erdogan you hit! Kurds will no longer defend themselves with karamultuk ... Patience of Russia is over!
      It's time to remember the story ....
      1. +6
        26 November 2015 12: 49
        .......................
    5. +15
      26 November 2015 12: 09
      Quote: avvg
      In my opinion, Erdogan was stiff.

      Yes, he didn’t stiffen. His business with ISIS is on fire, and the money and family business are sacred for him, so he bit a bit, he didn’t fall for them, he needs cheap Ishilov oil for resale to the same west.
      1. +3
        26 November 2015 12: 33
        Fuck these Turkoman did not fall, yes no, he uses them for his own purposes, the expansion of TURKOMAFII.
    6. +1
      26 November 2015 12: 13
      After the attack on the Su-24 Turks began diarrhea?
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    8. +3
      26 November 2015 12: 33
      Doesn't it seem to anyone that these tanks are just bait? Very old.
      They will not be sorry, but an occasion to seek protection from NATO.
      This is a red herring, you need to look for a "fish" more powerful.
      1. +3
        26 November 2015 12: 46
        It does not seem. You can always say that we did not think that Turkey was fighting in trash. And one can find a reason to seek protection from NATO, without it, would be a desire.
      2. +3
        26 November 2015 12: 47
        Doesn't it seem to anyone that these tanks are just bait? Very old.

        So where do they get new ones? The most modern is the Leopard 2A4. According to the Wiki 339 pieces. There is 1A4,1A3, 1A1, not antiquity, but also not modern. The rest are the ancient M60 and M48 of various modifications.
        So they have no choice what to drive to the border.
        Their aircraft are represented by F-5 and F-16, plus transport and training.
        But the Navy is pretty decent in quantity. As for the quality, I really don’t know, can anyone who knows give an assessment?
    9. +5
      26 November 2015 12: 53
      Let them pull up more equipment, concentrate in places of deployment along the border .... it will be easier for us to cover everyone at once .....
      1. +2
        26 November 2015 12: 56
        Quote: avvg
        Turkish Defense Ministry sends an additional 20 tanks to the Syrian border

        but on the Armenian border = nicho = does not want to send
  2. +6
    26 November 2015 12: 03
    Prepare new targets while Erdogan reads old tales about peaceful Turkey?
    1. +4
      26 November 2015 12: 09
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Prepare new targets while Erdogan reads old tales about peaceful Turkey?



      Erdoganchik fussed, NATO threw you will answer yourself.
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    3. +3
      26 November 2015 12: 12
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Prepare new targets

      Let's call this dish fez fried in a tank? am
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  4. +1
    26 November 2015 12: 03
    In my opinion, Erdogan was completely "stiff" or stupid.
  5. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 05
    Interestingly among these 18 F-16 airplanes, was the one that attacked our plane? Have to land everyone!
    1. +6
      26 November 2015 12: 13
      Quote: Nevsky_ZU
      Among these 18 F-16 aircraft, was the one that attacked our plane?

      Drop everything, and there look: caught or not. Repeat if necessary.
    2. +3
      26 November 2015 13: 04
      Interestingly among these 18 F-16 airplanes, was the one that attacked our plane? Have to land everyone!

      Yes, something our MO did not say anything about it, this is all the news from Turkish media
  6. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 05
    It's time for you and your brothers to dig a common hole. There are no tanks, excavators are needed here.
  7. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 06
    I think for Caliber this is not a problem
  8. +14
    26 November 2015 12: 06
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/454/ixys417.png

    No, kid ... More such tricks as with Su-24 will not work!
    With the supply of S-400s to Syria, a no-fly zone has been finally and irrevocably established for "Turkish citizens". If there is no mind at all, let them risk doing this!
    1. +5
      26 November 2015 12: 21
      No, kid ... More such tricks as with Su-24 will not work!
      With the supply of S-400s to Syria, a no-fly zone has been finally and irrevocably established for "Turkish citizens". If there is no mind at all, let them risk doing this!


      Somewhere information slipped through that the Americans are allegedly ready to supply Turkey with a carrier-based F-18 "...", which can interfere with electronic warfare, again allegedly even a S-400, where I am tormented by vague doubts laughing
      1. +4
        26 November 2015 12: 52
        Americans are supposedly ready to deliver

        The Americans and Ukrainians promised the Javelins. Only something imperceptibly there. Not ..., the United States will not go to such direct investments. Their little horse work stealthily, with third hands. So, we need to take a closer look at ours, maybe transport workers with democracy are already flying somewhere.
  9. +4
    26 November 2015 12: 08
    we will continue to do the same.

    Here is the keyword. Leopard change his spots.
  10. +3
    26 November 2015 12: 08
    Turkey has been admitted to NATO, which has no clear borders, therefore NATO is "overflowing". The threat to close the straits has already been voiced.
    1. +6
      26 November 2015 12: 16
      Quote: iouris
      The threat of closing the straits has already sounded.

      Unilateral closure of the straits is unlikely, since it violates the Montreux Convention of 1936. In peacetime, Turkey is obliged to allow small and middle class warships of all countries to pass. The Black Sea powers can conduct warships of any class through the straits. The only limitation is that they must travel alone or with minimal escort (up to two destroyers). If Turkey is in a state of war or "under the threat of war danger," the question of allowing warships into the straits remains at the discretion of Ankara. In this case, the war should be declared officially, and if this did not happen, then Turkey is obliged to let foreign ships pass on the condition that they were cut off from their naval base. In addition, the country needs to obtain UN consent on the closure of the straits.

      Although these sick Bashibuzuki can do anything by messing up all the contracts ...
    2. +2
      26 November 2015 12: 30
      .... The threat of closing the straits has already sounded ....

      .... As soon as they close it, it will open it .... In an extreme case, there will be a "bottle opener" .... In this case, the "great Ottoman" empire runs the risk of shrinking like shagreen leather and being left without straits ... I already wrote that I remember there seems to be a bridge between Europe and Asia .... For now .... And this is a very loaded transport artery (for Turkey) ..... If not, then the losses from Russian tourism will seem like "flowers" to the Turks ... ..And we can provide our airbase by air .... It will be hard .... But not critical .... Somewhere like that .... I think the General Staff for such (and not only) case there is a plan "A" and "B", etc. hi
      1. +1
        26 November 2015 12: 36
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        In extreme cases, there will be a "bottle opener" ..

        Well, yes - a volley of "Moscow" ... negative
        1. +1
          26 November 2015 12: 42
          .... Well, yes - a volley of "Moscow" ..

          ..... laughing ..... Well, this is an extreme measure !!!! .... There are other ways ... laughing
  11. +5
    26 November 2015 12: 08
    And, our aunts are still melting cellulite on Turkish beaches, or are they reaching for the house ?! On the move, it’ll soon blaze!
  12. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 08
    As I understand it, in the near future, departure and departure from the territory of Syria to Turkey will be completely blocked ...
  13. hartlend
    +2
    26 November 2015 12: 09
    Recall on Wednesday, President Erdogan said: “Turkey has always stood for peace, dialogue, diplomatic settlement, and after that we will continue to do the same. But let no one expect us to remain deaf and blind to the violation of our space, our borders, our sovereignty. "We have no thoughts to fan this incident (with the Su-24), we only protect our security and the rights of our (Turkmen) brothers."

    Learn, future masters of fine literature.
    The chair under Erdogan staggered.
  14. +3
    26 November 2015 12: 09
    Given the quantitative composition of the groupings in the region, 20 tanks are being bullied about anything, they say you will not risk answering. We fly and crawl as much as we want. But nothing, wait, see revenge for our guys.
  15. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 09
    Petersburg and Istanbul go to war again ...
  16. +3
    26 November 2015 12: 10
    Interesting girls are dancing, against whom are the Turks strengthening the border, well, certainly not against ISIS?
  17. +3
    26 November 2015 12: 10
    At the same time, 18 F-16 fighters were involved.

    Fly doves. Until the S-400 turned around.
    Are rearguard fights for retreating spirits going to lead, illegal pig children?
  18. +8
    26 November 2015 12: 10
    The leader of the nation, Recep-Adolf Taip-Aloizovich, the Turkish Wehrmacht sends to guard communications ...
  19. -1
    26 November 2015 12: 11
    Well, and I will ask you again: what will we do and say when, after our next bombing of the Turkmen in that region of the Turks, these tanks are moved to our airbase? You can’t hit directly, the country is NATO .. ​​If they didn’t give a response right away, we’ll get problems over the roof .. We were told directly that they would protect "ours" ..
    1. +4
      26 November 2015 12: 19
      Airbase, I note, is not ours. Syrian
      We are there by invitation. To the war.
      So, it turns out that if they move, then aggression against Syria. Attack on the contingent of Russia.
      The war 080808 with what began, remember?
      How did it end, do not forget, right?

      ...
      Before NATO swings, the Kurchatov Strait may appear instead of the Bosphorus and Dardanelles, as the map has already shown here on the forum.
      1. +8
        26 November 2015 12: 29
        I note in response that we have officially abandoned military operations against Turkey. Who will forbid the Turks from entering that area? Assad? He cannot win back his capital, not that he can defend the country .. The attack on the Russian contingent has already taken place. So what? I would be glad if I am very mistaken, the truth, but so far I do not see any options for the Turks to answer their arrival. Tomatoes and the summit are complete shit, not the answer.
        1. +2
          26 November 2015 12: 34
          Well, even more so.
          We officially refused military operations against Turkey.
          And if suddenly the Turkish troops begin to crush us - what is it called?
          While shooting all kinds of pilots — kurt, who were crazy about idleness, here we really can’t do anything, not the army, damn it, idiots.
          But if regular troops .....
          ...
          On the other hand, the attack and the downing of a military aircraft in the border area is called a border incident.
          The seed for war does not pull.
          Even when the U-2 was flunked in the Urals region - even this is not a reason for war.
          ...
          But the entry into the foreign territory of tanks, without invitation, is already a clear war.
          Blow Hail, say. Airbase bombing, say.
          1. +1
            26 November 2015 12: 49
            The fact is that even if these tanks are burned by Assad fighters, and not us, Turkey and NATO have a reason to intervene and squeeze this territory .. Maybe this is achieved? We are being pulled into the batch by all means ..
        2. +2
          26 November 2015 13: 03
          Quote: Dikson
          Who will forbid the Turks from entering that area? Assad?

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          The annexation or occupation of the territory will serve as a humanitarian reason for the start of hostilities ... But for now, instead of hostilities, political, diplomatic and economic levers will be used - "blue stream", nuclear power plants, Russian tourism, Turkey's membership in NATO as a provocateur ... enough to crush ...
          1. +2
            26 November 2015 13: 38
            "There will be no embargo on Turkish goods," Peskov said quite clearly. "60% of your gas and 35% of your oil are bought by us, if you crimp, it will be worse for you," Erdogan said. Rub down and dry.
            1. 0
              26 November 2015 13: 44
              if you cringe, it will be worse for you, "said Erdogan.

              Laughs the one who laughs last.
    2. +5
      26 November 2015 12: 26
      Yes, what are you? That is, if a NATO country starts a war, then you can’t fight with it because it is a NATO country, do you have to give up? lol Do you have a case, not brain liberalism? wink
      1. +1
        26 November 2015 12: 53
        I don’t have .. I am generally a supporter of Israel’s position on such issues - to cut into the answer, and then figure out who was blathering what there .. But we will wait of course .. If only our answer did not turn into an old Jewish joke - The robber broke into the house rapes his wife, and her husband runs around and laments: "Sarochka, be patient a little, maybe everything will work out?"
        1. +2
          26 November 2015 13: 11
          Quote: Dikson
          In general, I am a supporter of the position of Israel in such matters - to embed in response,

          ----------------------
          Can you imagine the scale of the incidence of Israel and Russia? After all, it will go on increasing ...
          1. +1
            26 November 2015 13: 40
            And it will go like that, don’t hesitate ... - this trial unrequited pebble will disperse in such circles on the water ... I think that for us Syria will be much worse than Afghanistan ...
      2. +1
        26 November 2015 13: 09
        Quote: nekot
        That is, if a NATO country starts a war, then you can’t fight with it because it is a NATO country, do you have to give up?

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        Another NATO country should determine the amount of assistance to another NATO country and coordinate with its Parliament the possibility and format of participation, democracy you understand ... The procedure is not quick, it takes at least two weeks ... You understand how difficult it is all ... The USA as the head and guarantor also immediately Congress, Senate, media training, expediency will not send their ILCs and Nimitz in addition ... Also, at least 3-4 days at least, and it’s not a fact, if you didn’t prepare it yourself beforehand ... In general, Turkey is a rocket launcher and a jump airfield. ..No one will harness for them ...
    3. +3
      26 November 2015 12: 35
      .... what shall we do and say, when, after our next bombardment of the Turkmens in that region of Turki, these tanks will move to our air base? It’s impossible to directly beat the NATO country ..

      .... And "Whirlwinds" what is MI-24 for ??? .... And NAT has already said that she does not care about these Russian-Turkish showdowns .... One is very scared .... They have the capital of NAT still deserted after the recent terrorist attacks (they sit in huts) ... And you are NATE, NATE ..... laughing
  20. +4
    26 November 2015 12: 11
    Presumably, tanks are needed so that the "help" delivered to Syria does not rush back, under pressure from that side ... laughing
  21. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 12
    Now your brothers are one hundred percent.
  22. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 12
    Old people М60А3ТТS. MBT "ALTAY" apparently expensive or damp?
  23. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 12
    Such actions by Turkey only once again confirm its guilt in provocation with the plane and the support of the Turkoyigil people.
  24. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 14
    Lavrov уThe Russian Foreign Minister bluntly stated that the Russian Federation was not going to fight Turkey. However, he is insured, the janissaries (still undercut), the point is not iron, the jimmy went.
  25. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 15
    Let them now try to fly into Syrian territory!
  26. +3
    26 November 2015 12: 21
    Drive a fool, so to the end? Well, he will drive himself to the end then!
  27. -6
    26 November 2015 12: 24



    They warn you warned, you cross the border from a high place 4-5 times last month. flew into our territory, you have been warned for more than one day, Mr. Putin personally warned Erdogan, but you are special people, you are nationalists. soldier fellow
    1. +2
      26 November 2015 12: 31
      Translate your thought from Turkish smile Although an obvious troll just stupidly will post his "pearl")))
    2. 0
      26 November 2015 14: 48
      Look, Putin will also warn you personally, where do you run to hide? Internationalists you ...
  28. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 25
    In my opinion, Turkey now has only one way out - a military coup.
    1. +2
      26 November 2015 14: 11
      screw cutter
      In my opinion, Turkey now has only one way out - a military coup.

      The Erdogan family has too much personal money, and its oil raider business in Syria has not come to an end. Therefore, Erdogan is happy with the military in the sense that he has something to pay the military for guarding his oil raider robbery of Syria.
      In other words, Turkey must mature for a military coup. Namely, first of all, before this, the Erdogan clan must financially go out of business. Well and accordingly the budget of Turkey should dry out. For this, Russia is doing the right thing, following the path of introducing, in effect, Russia's economic sanctions against Turkey. True, this is being done so far by Russia cautiously and not so frankly. But everything will come to this.
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  29. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 25
    Erdogan: "... But let no one expect us to remain deaf and blind to the violation of our space, our borders, our sovereignty. We have no thoughts to inflate this incident (with the Su-24), we only defend our security and rights our (Turkmen) brothers. "

    It's time for the already stupid Ottomans with imperial ambitions to learn the lessons of their history and stop bragging before Russia instead of being friends with her! Obviously, until they get the "tambourine" again, they won't calm down!
  30. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 25
    (But let no one expect us to remain deaf and blind to the violation of our space, our borders, our sovereignty.)

    Right. Therefore, Russia will close the Syrian sky and the Syrian-Turkish border. Well, let the least intruder not complain - we are not to blame, he himself came. bully
  31. +1
    26 November 2015 12: 28
    Question from the gallery. But what about tanks then in the photo? Obviously not Abrashi. Some kind of M-103, very much like these armor-plating tanks from World of Tanks
    1. 0
      26 November 2015 14: 55
      M-60, how can you not recognize them? On the M-103 nifiga not like.
  32. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 31
    “Turkey has always stood for peace, dialogue, diplomatic settlement, and after that we will continue to do the same. But let no one expect us to remain deaf and blind to the violation of our space, our borders, our sovereignty. "We have no thoughts to fan this incident (with the Su-24), we only protect our security and the rights of our (Turkmen) brothers." So wonderful, protect, IN YOUR TERRITORY, poke around, rake it off!
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    1. +1
      26 November 2015 12: 35
      And, I didn’t make out, the Turkish flag))) You are on the Censor))
  34. +1
    26 November 2015 12: 34
    Syria Russian Aerospace Forces
  35. +1
    26 November 2015 12: 34
    And what kind of tanks in the photo look like a rarity like the IS-3 from the times immediately after the Second World War?
    1. -11
      26 November 2015 12: 42
      Vasi T90 kakie dermo???
      1. +2
        26 November 2015 13: 05
        and you have nothing of your own. mongrel. weak shadow of the Ottoman Empire.
      2. +2
        26 November 2015 13: 57
        Don’t offend Vasya, Vasya will cleanse any Erdogan’s face lol
      3. 0
        26 November 2015 16: 09
        If you are not able to read or write in Cyrillic, then do not read in public places ...
    2. +1
      26 November 2015 14: 56
      American M-60.
  36. -10
    26 November 2015 12: 36
    Ne have analogav
    1. +3
      26 November 2015 12: 44
      Don’t scare the hedgehog’s donkey with a bare ass. If at the airport, then two CALIBERS for all this your beauty will be more than enough. Figs are not very far from the border ...
      1. +2
        26 November 2015 13: 23
        this is a staged photo of course - now not only they don’t fly, but all the planes hid in hangars. The pilots themselves understand what it smells like.
      2. 0
        26 November 2015 15: 08
        What do you want from them. Turaks. The example of Sweden taught them nothing. Turkey is still too big a country. They still have territories to rock the boat with Russia. He shows us old planes. Let us also scare us with our old BTR-60. Well you have to be such suckers. They are bred, bred, and they are kept on and on. The Turks have always been a chance for Russia to show valor quickly and heroically "someone" by getting loose. Does our fleet finally have the opportunity to win the fourth major victory in its history?
  37. +8
    26 November 2015 12: 42
    Now, if we punish then and it will be possible to say something. In the meantime, in all the comments one can only hear "yes, we will break, the end of Erdogan, revenge will be terrible." Although my opinion is that we got into a whirlpool and with each revolution it sucks us deeper and the speed of the fall is higher. Unfortunately, the enemies are insidious and we have no friends. They will bite us from all sides and hurt more and more. And we ? What can we do? Well, we will snap, and each of our retaliatory attacks is a huge cost of both money and resources. Ukraine is a terrorist attack on power lines, the transfer of the Crimea to electricity from generators (I think it is very expensive). Egypt tragedy with the plane, the cost of exporting tourists, Turkey under the knife a bunch of projects and additional forces for the war in Syria. And what must be admitted honestly, we in Turkey had more than they lose without us. Alas, recently provocations are more and more frequent. Perhaps this is the economic war
    1. +5
      26 November 2015 12: 53
      Something I did not hear in any comments - "we will tear everyone and there will be revenge ..."
      Boyhood is present, noticeably.
      But here, not the graduates of Smolny in 1916 are going to.
      And the fact that some losses ....
      if you are so good at investing, then you probably know without explanation why everything is being done in the world.
      If you don't want to occupy your niche, you claim more - well, prove your application with brains (even on the wall), fangs, horns. Prove that losing 200 "watermelons" is so for you, laughs.
      That you hold a blow just - prove it.
      ...
      Not this way?
      ...
      And even more interesting - 85% of Russia's population has nothing to lose.
      Here the circus and the buffoonery are arranged, at our expense.
      We already pulled the belts twice.
      Well, we’ll break a hole - but to admire something, for our money should.
      Only one thing can be worse - when it is definitely better for no one.
      And what to pull, one asks.
      1. +1
        26 November 2015 13: 34
        Dear Igor Vladimirovich, I completely agree with you. It’s just that I’ve recently been creating the impression that we, like a wolf, were lined up with flags and driven, we snarl and chased us further. We think that we are running along our own road, but in fact along the path marked for us, and at the end the hunter waits.
    2. +4
      26 November 2015 12: 53
      War is war. It is conducted in all areas, even in tourism. Allies appear closer to the end of the war.
      1. +1
        26 November 2015 13: 36
        I will add, by the end of the war the victorious
    3. msm
      msm
      +1
      26 November 2015 13: 25
      we in Turkey had more than they lose without us
      Yes, the Turks did not go to rest with us. Turks love sex tours in Ukraine ...
      1. +1
        26 November 2015 14: 24
        For 9 months of 2015, goods worth $ 15 billion were delivered from Russia to Turkey, and $ 3 billion from Turkey to Russia.
        NPPs The total project cost is estimated at $ 22 billion, the Russian Federation has already invested $ 3 billion. Construction began in April 2015.

        Full article here: http://gotuda.ru/index.php/vse-novosti/235151-2015-11-24-184930
        And you are tourism, but we are not the ones who will come. I think it’s much more painful for us to lose such a market.
  38. +1
    26 November 2015 12: 51
    Quote: inkass_98
    Svidomye groan, shaw swear mos.kali bombed a humanitarian convoy. Sympathize with the very twin from the IG.


    Isil made Ukraine a priority list of enemies - along with America, France, Russia, etc.
    1. +1
      26 November 2015 12: 59
      I can’t even imagine how the Ukrainians annoyed the Ishilovites? For what??? laughing
  39. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 52
    The Turkish Defense Ministry sent additional 20 tanks to the Syrian border, as well as airplanes to patrol, Vzglyad reported, citing Anadolu agency.

    Yes Yes Yes! Soon, even a kitten squadron will drive up the equestrian divers squadron.
    If this is the same "protection" that comrade Erdogan spoke about, then let's see how this will happen from the territory of Turkey. Because God forbid, they will be brought into Syria.
    In general, there is a good option. Give the Turks their "brothers" and let them roll ... And there will be no need to protect anyone, and the brother will be reunited with his brother, and the end of this vanilla story (hysteria).
    At the G20 Erdogan, apparently, the chocolate chef gave the go-ahead, and he started jumping out of his pants. The nuance is ... that you can jump! Well, like our "neighbors" from the western border. Jumping together is more fun, getting n * duli together is more interesting ...
  40. +2
    26 November 2015 12: 52
    Quote: molotov
    Ne have analogav

    Well scat from here, you bastard!
  41. +2
    26 November 2015 13: 00
    Is this reinforcement for ISIS arrived ???
    1. +2
      26 November 2015 13: 19
      Quote: Fisman
      Is this reinforcement for ISIS arrived ???


      Well, yes, but this is the delivery of shells on their own ...
  42. +3
    26 November 2015 13: 05
    to jam and dazzle everything that is only possible, to keep constantly on the s-300,400 sight only rams will understand so
  43. +3
    26 November 2015 13: 25
    On its territory, Turkey in its own right.
    Let him build a defense line with dugouts.
    But in Syria ...
    I think that among our attack aircraft will be
    to destroy Turkish columns with special chic
    on Syrian land as close to the border as possible.
    That is, as soon as the last truck crosses the border,
    there is a small armageddean.
    And it's time, Syria to take control of the border with Turkey already under full control.
  44. +3
    26 November 2015 13: 39
    Fine. Russia is heading straight for a conflict when the cockroaches that were stirring water against us crawl out. Then we slam them. And they crawl to protect the youngest cockroach, Turkey.
    1. +5
      26 November 2015 15: 03
      Photo just right))
  45. 0
    26 November 2015 15: 03
    Turkey hopes that we will not dare to touch the NATO country, but our military directly said who would pose a threat would be destroyed. Now they seem to taste the Turks with 400 and other various and interesting missiles ... We are waiting ..
  46. 0
    26 November 2015 15: 12
    Erdogan has already backed down. The vaunted NATO shoved the advertised 5th article into one dark deep place, thereby showing that they are not eager to arrange a real batch with an angry Russia, especially if the reason for the batch is only the Turks. This, by the way, should be taken into account by other especially noisy countries, which are all repeating "NATO will come, we will be protected." As it turned out, NATO comes only when it is profitable for him and there is no danger of snatching the lula and spoiling his own beautiful glamorous face.
    The Kurds must be unequivocally armed. Yes, we control the territory of Syria, however, the Kurds will be able to provide Erdogan with a sweet life on the territory of Turkey itself. Erdogan wanted to build a buffer zone in northern Syria supposedly to help refugees? Well, let's bring this good purpose to life. That's just the buffer it will be for the PKK. First, clean everything there, we are from the air, on the ground, the Kurds themselves, clean. Then block the border (which means depriving ISIS of money, ammunition, medicine and other pleasures of life) and launch the Kurds there for the settlement. The Turks, of course, will be indignant, but they will not be able to fly anyway, because the slightest flight beyond the territory will be severely suppressed.
    The bottom line:
    1) Isil will remain with a pretty battered wallet, without regular replenishment of weapons and militants,
    2) Erdogan will simply be left without money, but it will gain even greater problems with the Kurds than now,
    3) the Kurds keep the northern regions of Syria "clean", which will allow them to concentrate strikes in other directions,
    4) we will take revenge as a whole and show that you can’t get in touch with Russia, the answer will be extremely unpleasant.
  47. 0
    26 November 2015 15: 30
    If Turkey enters troops into Syria, Israel will certainly take advantage of this and will want to bite off its own piece of cake. We will get another stab in the back. After Israel, the Saudis will join and Syria will be torn to pieces.
    1. +1
      26 November 2015 15: 48
      it seems to me that if Turkey introduces troops it would be a fatal mistake, the troops need air support. Why ours and urgently launched С400. And then you think our planes will not destroy equipment on the ground? This is after the downed 24. And that the Turks will start to openly blast our planes across Syria as patriots? But what about NATO if one "member is not on the case got excited"? I think Obama with such a batch will put a new supervisor at the helm of Turkey.
      And Israel is an adequate country to turn up under such distribution. Undoubtedly, the Israeli army is excellent. But they would bring order with the Arabs. Put yourself in Syria, and here in an unfavorable situation, tactical nuclear weapons will soon begin to fly.
      1. +1
        26 November 2015 16: 20
        Here, Sergey, I will fully support it.
        About Israel.
        Whatever the Jews, we flogged, but for some reason I get the feeling that in such a situation (well, suppose the Turks rush to the base of Khmeimim to be razed to the ground), the Israelis will not climb into Syria.
        To the noise, a couple more times to hammer where, maybe, yes. And then I doubt it will be really mean.
        Did you feel it?
        In my opinion, this is the only army in the East capable of fighting in a gentlemanly way.
        Or we’re fighting, and seriously and cruelly. Or no stupid provocateurs.
        I won’t talk about special operations, there’s also a completely different trade situation.
        ...
        Miracles, damn it. I praise the Israelites. belay feel
        1. 0
          26 November 2015 16: 59
          And I respect Israel. Sorry I will repeat my old comment
          My wife’s cancer can’t be cured in Russia, so in 2014 the USA opened and launched the release of the medicine Kertrude, a fundamentally new treatment principle and a cure! Immediately, Israel and Germany began to treat with a very high percentage of recovery. Naturally, we do not certify it. And why is it very expensive, but it will be necessary to give someone at preferential prices or even free of charge. So three droppers cost about $ 30. In order not to travel every month I wanted to bring us here and do it. Israil from this amount returns 000 percent at the airport, but do you think it helps in such an expensive treatment? We proposed to pay a tax at customs at Sheremetyevo 15 percent of the cost of the purchased medicine, which costs over 20 thousand dollars. So you start thinking who the enemy is and who is the friend.
  48. +1
    26 November 2015 15: 48
    Do not worry, we will pretend that we did not determine the ownership of the equipment and in general, they warned us all the time 10 times in 5 minutes!
  49. 0
    26 November 2015 18: 21
    Quote: Vladimir71
    tanks also 20 God will give them the way there.

    Will be. As soon as they enter Syria, they will die. Now our hands are untied.
  50. 0
    26 November 2015 18: 57
    What panic mood? We should already begin to be afraid of something, what a horror the Turks sent troops to us, and we were scared - you yourself are not funny, gentlemen officers?
    Yes, if the troops move to Syria, then Putin will still surprise them, don’t hesitate, so much modern and not so much weapons have been tested. Our business is just.
    For example, I really liked the phrase Matvienko - shot down a plane - well, let's compensate for a start. Our pretty well-disposed situation, the grip of the nineties has not gone anywhere. You will also see everyone divorced.

    Yes, and the Turks clearly already understood how they were set up by the Americans, it’s their business, then do not go to a fortuneteller. They blew the Turks in the ears, and now no matter what. Divide and conquer - as old as the world. Obama obviously giggled with joy.

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