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Construction of the largest special forces training complex continues in Chechnya

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In Gudermes, the construction of one of the world's largest centers for the training of special forces continues, some of the facilities have already been commissioned, LifeNews.


Construction of the largest special forces training complex continues in Chechnya


An anti-terror group will be trained at the center. They will be trained in tactics and methods of warfare in cities, forests, mountains and even under water.

The center can accommodate 300 football fields, it will be one of the best in the world for technical equipment.

After the terrorist attacks in France, the special services of many countries applied for training their fighters in it.

Among the objects handed over - shooting pavilion, consisting of 14-ti individual locations. They can handle any unusual situations. Ramzan Kadyrov personally tested his capabilities.

“We sent our experts around the world. They took all the best. I declare that this will be the best military training center for special units, ”the head of Chechnya said.

As the channel’s correspondent was told, the base will also have a “diving center, wind tunnel and an entire mini-town where fighters from all over the world will develop skills to free hostages from high-rise buildings, schools and hospitals”.
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 26 November 2015 09: 21
    22
    TsSP is certainly wonderful, but why in Chechnya?
    1. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 26 November 2015 09: 22
      30
      To nightmare the whole world with military Kadyrovites, it is not otherwise ... wassat
      1. meriem1
        meriem1 26 November 2015 09: 41
        21
        Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
        To nightmare the whole world with military Kadyrovites, it is not otherwise ... wassat


        Before broadcasting outside .. It’s not bad - to communicate with Vainakhs !!! Anyone who served in the Airborne Forces knows Ruslana Ausheva. From there, Yunus-Bek Yevkurov. Real Warriors and People. Kadyrov to the conversation, Man and causes Respect. !!!!! And the gopniks nightmare ... which are enough everywhere.
        1. good7
          good7 26 November 2015 09: 58
          14
          Yunus-Bek Yevkurov strongly dislikes Ramzan and this is a fact. And he is an officer of the Russian Federation, not a former separatist!
          1. Now we are free
            Now we are free 26 November 2015 10: 58
            +9
            Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
            To nightmare the whole world with military Kadyrovites, it is not otherwise ... wassat

            Greetings Dmitry hi
            Well, by the way, there is some truth in your words. It is not strange, but in Chechnya now they are making a Sickle if not a Hammer, in which the Russian Special Forces and the allies of the Russian Federation will learn to solve combat missions around the world, and in the light of the latest news, these tasks are added every month (if not by day) ...
            By the way, regarding the Vainakhs, I'm not going to raise them to the Shield, but many of the Nokhchi have already forever remained in the Donetsk airport and in the fields of Donbass, fighting for the idea of ​​Novorossiya, and this is not a small thing. I remember Ramzan showing 20 soldiers at the stadium in Grozny, calling them "Putin's infantry" ready to carry out any of his orders, which tells me that soon these guys will have work and there will be a lot of it ...
            Regarding distrust of Nokhchi after two wars, one can say the following - As geopolitics (especially modern) shows, you should certainly not forget history BUT you need to look who is here and now is on your side and how he can help you solve vital problems for you. Yes, Vainakhs are a very difficult ethnic group in terms of relationships, and I think everyone who has come across them in life knows this. Even of all the nationalities living in the North Caucasus, Vainakhs, and in particular Nokhchi, are the most difficult to understand and difficult to predict, BUT with certainty, one can say Vainakhs always RESPECTED FORCE and WISDOM. Respect for the first factor is inherent in their nature, respect for the second is brought up gradually and it must be demonstrated constantly, showing what exactly you know how best to do in a particular situation and why they should listen to you, consult with you and obey your orders. The second factor should be supplemented periodically by the first, but without excesses.
            Dudayev and Maskhadov were quite good officers of the Soviet army who, after the collapse of the USSR (which they honestly served by the way), having lost any further ideological guideline, returned to their "Roots", and Boris-Liter contributed to the distance from the idea of ​​being a part of the Russian Federation. everyone knows there was no Power or Wisdom ... Accordingly, "Nokhchi" returned to the "Roots", but even then there was a choice of how to be guided by the ethical code of conduct of Nokhchi (and believe me, it is also very strong) "Wisdom" or the right of the strong with elements of teip " Strength "? Due to the reigning chaos at the time of the 90s on the territory of the entire post-Soviet space, Nokhchi, according to the "Laws of the Jungle", chose FORCE ... Two bloody wars showed that this was not quite the right decision, but I want to ask a question, suppose -You tamed the wolf and then stopped feeding it, began to communicate with it periodically to ... and then after some time, Suddenly decided that it should serve you again ... I don’t think I should describe the reaction of the wolf to your decision? ..
            Yes, Vainakhs are wolves and they can’t be redone BUT (as one smart person said) These are OUR wolves ... And wolves know how to tear well and as confirmation of this Yevkurov-Pristina; Aushev-Afgan; Kadyrovtsy-08.08.08; Kadyrovtsy-Donbass, I will not list others ... Vainakhs cope with clearly set tasks perfectly and I will repeat these tasks will soon be added, including abroad ...
            1. good7
              good7 26 November 2015 14: 27
              +1
              Oh her, our wolves, etc. etc. How many of our non-wolves died in these wars? You exaggerate their role, and as in the case of Dudaev and Maskhadov, be prepared for a stab in the back from friends!
              1. Vitalii24
                Vitalii24 26 November 2015 15: 11
                +2
                And it is right! Chechens are our brothers

                MAGOMED RAMAZANOV HAD NO INTENTION TO KILL, BECAUSE HAS NOT ADDED A GIRL IN A HOSPITAL!

                MAGOMED RAMAZANOV RELEASED IN THE COURT HALL



                Murder accused Russian 15 year old girl Maria Fedorova - Magomed Ramazanov - by a sentence of the Kalininsky District Court of St. Petersburg dated December 11, 2014, in accordance with the proposal of the prosecutor, was found guilty of ... moderate bodily harm (Article 112 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation) and was released under an amnesty in the courtroom.

                In September 2013, Ramazanov started a conflict with a girl on the street and inflicted three blows to her head, after which she was rushed to the hospital, treated for two weeks, then was discharged home, where she soon died of a brain hemorrhage. Ramazanov spent in custody 1 year 3 months.

                from the decision to dismiss:

                It turns out, in the opinion of the forensic expert (in my opinion, clearly bribed by the Dagestan diaspora), bodily injuries such as destruction of brain matter and rupture of cerebral vesselsas if they were only moderate injuries - and then only on the basis of disability for a period of more than 21 days. It is absolutely clear that rupture of even ONE cerebral vessel, and even more so damage to brain matter, can lead to IMMEDIATE death. But Masha did not die immediately, but after a certain time. Again, not a single doctor will be able to determine why a particular patient died after some time, but not immediately, because doctors are not gods. But the court’s motivation is even more interesting - since the prosecutor REFUSED the initial charge of attempted murder and re-qualified Ramazanov’s actions on Article 112 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation (causing bodily harm of moderate gravity) - and motivated the re-qualification by the fact that Ramazanov, at that time, was free, knowing about Masha’s stay in the hospital, didn’t come there and DO NOT FIND HER !!!



                http://andreychernuhin.livejournal.com/64667.html?thread=434331
                1. Vitalii24
                  Vitalii24 26 November 2015 15: 15
                  0
                  RESIDENTS OF NARTAN VILLAGE FOR TWO MONTHS FORCED THE 14-YEAR-OLD GIRL ARRIVING WITH THE MOTHER FROM KURSK. This became known only now - before that, neither the police nor the neighbors reacted to what was happening. And when the children's ombudsman and federal investigators joined the case, the relatives drove their “disgraced” family out onto the street.

                  After that, men began to arrive at the victim’s house in cars, demanding that the girl go with them. “The young people were arrogant and threatened me with reprisal if my daughter didn’t come to them,” the woman says. I called the police. They replied: "Write down the numbers of cars, we will figure it out." I did so, but the police did not come to us. ”

                  According to the victim’s mother, the girl was “intimidated by the fact that they would kill the whole family if she did not go out to them”. "When she began to ask why, they explained: you are Russian."

                  Newspaper look: http://vz.ru/society/2011/7/8/505826.html
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    2. venaya
      venaya 26 November 2015 09: 23
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      Vladimirich (2): "but why in Chechnya?"- Have you heard that the Chechens build industry? Me too. So at least we need to keep them busy.
      1. Good me
        Good me 26 November 2015 09: 36
        16
        Quote: venaya
        Have you heard the Chechens build industry? So do I. So at least something needs to be taken.


        You know ... In the USSR, a monolithic, united (for the time being true) state, the necessary facilities were not built by any separate nations or nationalities. Built ONE SOVIET PEOPLE. THAT, and TAM, where it was considered necessary for the development of the country.

        So why now, Chechens, or Udmurts, for example, have to build "" for themselves and for themselves "?

        Are we not ONE COUNTRY, NOT ONE PEOPLE?
        1. venaya
          venaya 26 November 2015 09: 51
          +2
          Quote: Good Me
          Are we not ONE COUNTRY, NOT ONE PEOPLE?

          I myself can hardly imagine that Chechens would call themselves "Russians". I think that if someone tells them this, he can quickly get "in the horn". No matter how we indulge ourselves with the theory that all people are equal, anyway, there are some differences between ethnic groups (not peoples, but ethnic groups) and often noticeable differences. So the Chechens differ from many and very much, and he himself noticed this, and the theory (the index of n ... ti) speaks of a big difference, in the case of Chechens a record difference from all other ethnic groups.
          1. good7
            good7 26 November 2015 14: 32
            0
            Not just get in the horn, but also can trick! And whom did Yamadayev begin to terrorize after the Russians ended? Avars, all Muslim brothers! Wolves - will remain wolves!
        2. Altona
          Altona 26 November 2015 09: 56
          +5
          Quote: Good Me
          You know ... In the USSR, a monolithic, united (for the time being true) state, the necessary facilities were not built by any separate nations or nationalities.

          --------------------
          The policy of flirting with the local elite is always applied to the national outskirts, that is, they give free rein to them in accordance with the preferences of the local "comrade Saakhi". The "system of sultanates" always operates there, slightly tinted under the "general federal" one. In general, for the sake of local specifics ...
          1. Good me
            Good me 26 November 2015 10: 11
            +3
            Quote: Altona
            The policy of flirting with the local elite is always applied to the national outskirts, that is, they give free rein to them in accordance with the preferences of the local "comrade Saakhi". The "system of sultanates" always operates there, slightly tinted under the "general federal" one. In general, for the sake of local specifics ...


            So on that, both the KEEP and KEEP monolith of the multinational state fellow Etc.
            Of course, you somewhat exaggerated the approach, but in general, this was the case during the period of RI and the USSR. That is why we differed in our attitude to the annexed or subjugated peoples from the colonial policy of the West, with its suppression of the "aborigines".

            Century is Russia, does not waver. And the British empires, and the like, have long sunk into oblivion ...
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 26 November 2015 10: 33
              +1
              The USSR also didn’t seem unstable .. And the bomb planted under Ilyich so far with a wick is about autonomous republics as part of Russia, nationalism is so far only domestic, but not the fact that it will not explode sometime, unfortunately, I myself live in nat. republic and I see how implicitly it spreads its wings and what will trigger the explosion, God knows ...
          2. Rezistant
            Rezistant 26 November 2015 10: 23
            +2
            This is a feature, one of the key, of our country, this is our unique concept. Do you know at least one other country with a similar internal structure?
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 26 November 2015 11: 17
              0
              Quote: Rezistant
              . Do you know at least one other country with a similar internal structure?

              Do you consider this an achievement? For me, a unitary state like the Russian Empire was much more preferable .. a monolith, stronger in its essence
          3. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 26 November 2015 10: 27
            0
            Quote: Altona
            tinted under the "federal". In general, for the sake of local specifics ...

            As always, everything is simple - it will be cheaper to pay off than to fight, and here Putin is 100 percent. right, in a bad situation, 200 cargoes were still moving .. The bad thing is that the Putin-Kadyrov system itself is in a shaky balance, i.e. tied purely to the person ..
            1. Aurum
              Aurum 26 November 2015 16: 54
              0
              [quote = afdjhbn67] [quote = Altona] n The bad thing is that the Putin-Kadyrov system itself is in a shaky balance, that is tied purely to the person .. [/ quote]

              there will be a person like Yeltsin (that is, a corrupt person), maybe so, but there will be a real statesman, a person rooting for the people — everything will be normal in Chechnya.
      2. Felix-A
        Felix-A 26 November 2015 09: 36
        0
        Well, yes .. on your head. Once it was not enough
      3. seregatara1969
        seregatara1969 26 November 2015 10: 12
        +3
        Chechnya has a priority plant
      4. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 26 November 2015 10: 38
        +2
        Believe me, they are building a car assembly plant, for example .. Of course, the pace of construction of the industry is not the same as in the Union ..
        Quote: venaya
        Vladimirich (2): "but why in Chechnya?"- Have you heard that the Chechens build industry? Me too. So at least we need to keep them busy.
      5. Lelek
        Lelek 26 November 2015 12: 34
        +1
        Quote: venaya
        So at least something needs to be taken.


        Oil refining and related chemical industries. Oil in Chechnya is good, light, the population will have work, and the republic has decent money. yes
    3. dorz
      dorz 26 November 2015 09: 25
      +4
      That's right, you need to be proactive. A good terrorist is a dead terrorist.
    4. Lenin
      Lenin 26 November 2015 09: 25
      0
      Quote: Vladimir
      TsSP is certainly wonderful, but why in Chechnya?

      Whoever has the money builds it. hi
      1. Good me
        Good me 26 November 2015 09: 51
        +3
        Quote: Lenin
        Whoever has the money builds it.


        Lenin, don't "La-La" lol This object is not private, but public ...
        1. Lenin
          Lenin 26 November 2015 12: 44
          0
          Quote: Good I
          Quote: Lenin
          Whoever has the money builds it.


          Lenin, don't "La-La" lol This object is not private, but public ...

          Well, God forbid, Comrade Good. Under the USSR, I know there were government facilities, and you tell me how it looks now? At the moment, even the simple part cannot be considered fully state. A simple example of an RF suppose, somehow, it refers to the Ministry of Defense, and to whom it belongs to power supply, and Voentorg, etc. So la la do not. hi
          P | S Everywhere business penetrated along with a tubaretkin. There is no Tubaretkin, but the business has remained and is building a special construction, the most not commercial state organization.
    5. 79807420129
      79807420129 26 November 2015 09: 28
      15
      Quote: Vladimir
      TsSP is certainly wonderful, but why in Chechnya?

      Because Ramzan covers our Southern borders and shoots iblises to hell.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 26 November 2015 09: 34
        10
        Quote: 79807420129
        Because Ramzan covers our Southern borders and shoots iblises to hell.

        All the same, strange people are in our country. Two years ago for such a koment, you would have been driven into skulls in two hours. You would be blamed for all the sins of the earth and demanded to be banned forever, but today they will put pluses to you, and the same people which two years ago would require your blood.
        Well, this is me, to the general reflection wrote hi
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 26 November 2015 09: 45
          14
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: 79807420129
          Because Ramzan covers our Southern borders and shoots iblises to hell.

          All the same, strange people are in our country. Two years ago for such a koment, you would have been driven into skulls in two hours. You would be blamed for all the sins of the earth and demanded to be banned forever, but today they will put pluses to you, and the same people which two years ago would require your blood.
          Well, this is me, to the general reflection wrote hi

          Alexander, as if who did not relate to Kadyrov in today's conditions, this is actually so, we still did not have enough fighting in the Caucasus, and many of our enemies want to rock the Caucasus and now there is far from peace, but Ramzan even holds the situation in your hands, minus at least to the skulls and to the ban, this is just my opinion. Regards. hi
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 November 2015 09: 56
            +5
            Quote: 79807420129
            Ramzan even holds the situation in his hands, if you want, minus the skulls and the ban, this is just my opinion. Regards.

            They won’t minus you now, now they’ll dazzle you with their pluses. Two years ago I left a comment similar to yours and in an hour I got 200 minuses laughing
            In our country, the people come to the tight, almost like the Estonians, very harsh lol
            1. 79807420129
              79807420129 26 November 2015 10: 07
              11
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: 79807420129
              Ramzan even holds the situation in his hands, if you want, minus the skulls and the ban, this is just my opinion. Regards.

              They won’t minus you now, now they’ll dazzle you with their pluses. Two years ago I left a comment similar to yours and an hour minus 200 minuses laughing
              In our country, the people come to the tight, almost like the Estonians, very harsh lol

              Alexander two years ago, I would have kicked myself out and minus myself for such a comment, but if we could imagine what would happen now in the south, if it weren’t driven by Kadyrov, but by another Dudaev, we probably wouldn’t be in Syria, I would have had my own fire put out. And it is very good that most of us understand this.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 26 November 2015 10: 46
                +3
                Quote: 79807420129
                Alexander two years ago, I would have torn myself and minus myself for such a comment

                And what has changed in two years?
                1. 79807420129
                  79807420129 26 November 2015 10: 55
                  +8
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Quote: 79807420129
                  Alexander two years ago, I would have fought myself for such a comment request ol and zinnusovat

                  And what has changed in two years?

                  Alexander has changed a lot in two years, I have been reading VO since 2013, I only recently registered.
            2. guzik007
              guzik007 26 November 2015 10: 32
              0
              In our country, the people come to the tight, almost like the Estonians, very harsh
              -------------------------------------------------- --------------------------
              Yeah. No luck with your people :)
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          2. good7
            good7 26 November 2015 10: 29
            -3
            With money, why not keep it, but the point is that they are building! Where, the factories, where the institutes will how much Russia will milk! Resources tend to run out!
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 26 November 2015 10: 47
              +2
              Quote: good7
              With money, why not keep it, but the point is that they are building! Where, the factories, where the institutes will how much Russia will milk!

              Chechnya is no longer a subsidized region. Good afternoon, Mr. Estonia.
              1. good7
                good7 26 November 2015 11: 14
                0
                I will not insult you Cheburashka, but see this link http://www.aif.ru/dontknows/eternal/1206689
            2. prishelec
              prishelec 26 November 2015 11: 43
              +1
              Quote: good7
              With money, why not keep it, but the point is that they are building! Where, the factories, where the institutes will how much Russia will milk! Resources tend to run out!

              Yeah, Chechnya was milked at the time by R.I. and the USSR squeezed this patch of land like a sponge)) the oil is almost over.
              Yes, factories and factories must be built!
              1. good7
                good7 26 November 2015 12: 52
                -2
                You don’t need oil for a donkey ride and obviously there isn’t so much oil there to justify the subsidies! In addition, Afghanistan is full of minerals and what, do they have mining technologies? No! So that these are all just words - resources taken away?
                1. prishelec
                  prishelec 26 November 2015 15: 28
                  -1
                  Quote: good7
                  You don’t need oil for a donkey ride and obviously there isn’t so much oil there to justify the subsidies! In addition, Afghanistan is full of minerals and what, do they have mining technologies? No! So that these are all just words - resources taken away?

                  It seems you are a lover of donkeys,)) by the way, in Chechnya donkeys never rode donkeys, since ancient times, they valued and bred horses very much.
                  Now it’s not typed of course ...
                  They imposed a war on the Afghans, as they have imposed on the Chechens for several centuries in a row, destroying them on their own land, simultaneously hanging labels on them, such as "robbers, etc. By the way, the Moscow (nobles), if I may put it this way, can again impose on them ( if it is profitable for them) the next war, and set them like dogs like you!

                  Quote: good7
                  resources taken away?

                  You could say that.
                  1. Heimdall48
                    Heimdall48 26 November 2015 15: 39
                    -2
                    By the way, Moscow (nobles), if I may say so, can again impose on them (if it will be profitable) another war

                    All that is imposed on them by the poor and offended. And what Mordovians with Yakuts do not impose anything?
        2. Good me
          Good me 26 November 2015 10: 02
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          All the same, strange people are in our country. Two years ago for such a koment, you would have been driven into skulls in two hours. You would be blamed for all the sins of the earth and demanded to be banned forever, but today they will put pluses to you, and the same people which two years ago would require your blood.


          "Strange people", Alexander, live in a CHANGING COUNTRY, and that is not strange, they change with it yes Etc.
        3. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 26 November 2015 10: 22
          0
          Alexander Romanov
          Strange all the same people in our country

          Mind Russia does not understand :)
        4. good7
          good7 26 November 2015 10: 26
          -3
          So Ramzanku is everywhere PR, and people are hawking!
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 26 November 2015 10: 47
            0
            Quote: good7
            So Ramzanku is everywhere PR, and people are hawking!

            Am I People?
      2. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 26 November 2015 10: 00
        0
        Quote: 79807420129
        Quote: Vladimir
        TsSP is certainly wonderful, but why in Chechnya?

        Because Ramzan covers our Southern borders and shoots iblises to hell.



        And if he trains a lot of people in a couple of years and wants to build some kind of "state" too?
        1. Mahmut
          Mahmut 26 November 2015 10: 36
          0
          And if he trains a lot of people in a couple of years and wants to build some kind of "state" too?

          But to prevent this from happening, everything was foreseen. Namely, their main income is oil and refining entirely in the ownership of Rosneft. Rosneft pays Kadyrov to the local budget only 2% of the price of oil produced in Chechnya. That is, practically nothing. And everything else is compensated by the federal budget. This is how the myth is created that Moscow contains Chechnya on the back of the Russian people. The Chechens have a twofold feeling about this. The first is that they defended their interests in the war. Second, being part of Russia is great. Therefore, any separatist sprouts in the republics are strangled with their own hands, and not with Russian bayonets.
          1. good7
            good7 26 November 2015 10: 59
            -2
            What oil was extracted in Chechnya, it has been extracted there since 1893, everyone has already worked out there, it is not there! Why they are drilling the shelves, why the Saudis are already climbing into Syria for oil, and even in their wells they started using the tertiary method of adding oil. The answer is because it is a non-renewable resource! And excuse me, electric cars and organic chemistry come into fashion so that the importance of oil with a price of $ 45 is greatly exaggerated to expose someone offense.
          2. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 26 November 2015 14: 11
            0
            Quote: Mahmut
            And if he trains a lot of people in a couple of years and wants to build some kind of "state" too?

            But to prevent this from happening, everything was foreseen. Namely, their main income is oil and refining entirely in the ownership of Rosneft. Rosneft pays Kadyrov to the local budget only 2% of the price of oil produced in Chechnya. That is, practically nothing.



            What does oil have to do with it? I'm talking about the fact that he will have one of the most advanced training grounds, where he will be able to freely train his fighters.
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut 26 November 2015 18: 00
              0
              You do not carefully read your own comment. You are concerned about the possibility of Ramzan to build his own state. What kind of state can there be within the framework of another state except as completely economically dependent or separatist? To organize such an idea, it’s not the commandos who need it, but money and, once again, money. This is Napoleon Bonaparte said. And he knew a little about it.
        2. good7
          good7 26 November 2015 10: 47
          0
          I think so too, but there are a lot of Ramzan's friends on this site, so there’s no one to reach out to.
      3. good7
        good7 26 November 2015 10: 24
        0
        They have a lot of iblises in the republic, and look at the map protects from whom from the Georgians? I'm afraid, I'm afraid!
      4. Aurum
        Aurum 26 November 2015 16: 50
        0
        sorry, accidentally pressed the minus.
        Totally agree with you.
    6. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 26 November 2015 09: 39
      +2
      Quote: Vladimir
      TsSP is certainly wonderful, but why in Chechnya?

      Well, how can I say ... At all times, the Caucasus was a special forces school! (Read Lermontov ..)))
      Caucasus! far country!
      Residence liberty simple!
      And you are full of misfortunes
      And bloodied by war! ..
      The caves and the rocks
      Under the wild veil of haze
      They will also hear the cry of passion
      Ringing of glory, gold and chains? ..
      Not! past years do not expect
      Circassian, in his own country:
      Freedom before a cute land
      Significantly dying for her.

      Half of Russia has passed through the Caucasus since the beginning of the 90s (well, almost ..) hi
    7. lukke
      lukke 26 November 2015 09: 44
      +2
      and where is the money from, Zin? near the subsidized region
      Ramzanchik’s caprice at the expense of the federal budget, i.e. from taxes of all Russians?
      fine...
      1. Denis DV
        Denis DV 26 November 2015 09: 55
        +4
        Quote: lukke
        at the expense of the federal budget, i.e. from taxes of all Russians?
        fine...


        Do not have fun for the sake of the military, and the protection of all Russians. This is not a local project for specialists of one territory, I think all of ours will be rolled around there. hi
        1. lukke
          lukke 26 November 2015 17: 31
          +1
          Do not have fun for the sake of the military, and the protection of all Russians. This is not a local project for specialists of the same territory, I think all of ours will be run there
          I use both hands for such centers for training, but you read carefully my question: from what budget does the subsidized region take the money to build this? If this is part of the federal program under the auspices of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, then with what fright is Chechnya? a region that brings surprises to Russia every century? Do we need to urgently bury the money? - I can give the address of the summer cottage, at least I will not use them to the detriment of Russia)
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      2. Good me
        Good me 26 November 2015 10: 19
        0
        Quote: lukke
        and where is the money from, Zin? near the subsidized region


        You Zina, do not bother, she has nothing to do with it.
        With your own little mind, first take a look at the CSF, the object of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, on the money of WHICH budget is being built?

        This is not Disneyland for Kadyrov, but an object of national importance ...
        1. lukke
          lukke 26 November 2015 13: 21
          0
          This is not Disneyland for Kadyrov, but an object of national importance

          Well, thanks for the educational program, otherwise I confused it all the time
          Well, I’m looking at you, then the chamber and you have first-hand information, carried the center under construction to the Ministry of Defense! Did Kadyrov probably bring you approval plans with Shoigu personally in the DPR? I’m directly aware of the central intelligence center of the FSB in ... (the Moscow region), I heard about the central intelligence center of the Ministry of Internal Affairs in Moscow, but I don’t have a clue about Kadyrov’s, I suppose that they’ll put it on the balance of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, it’s easier than getting the FSB. But then you know everything - tell us? only without thought-outs and visions, dear you are ours.
          1. Good me
            Good me 27 November 2015 10: 45
            +1
            Quote: lukke
            Well, thanks for the educational program, otherwise I confused it all the time
            Well, I’m looking at you, then the chamber and you have first-hand information, carried the center under construction to the Ministry of Defense! Did Kadyrov probably bring you approval plans with Shoigu personally in the DPR?


            Judging by your "knowledge" about what flag is on my avatar, and what it is called, and also based on the haste of your empty conclusions, YOU still have to LEARN and LEARN ...

            And tact in communication, not least yes Etc.
            1. lukke
              lukke 27 November 2015 13: 03
              0
              Yes, I confused it with DNRvsky in priests, I admit that I combine work with a pleasant reading of the site (I must already separate it - if I allow mistakes). And about tact and so on - start with yourself, the teacher
              With your mind
              .
              1. Good me
                Good me 27 November 2015 13: 23
                0
                Quote: lukke
                Yes, I confused it with DNRvsky in priests, I admit that I combine work with a pleasant reading of the site (I must already separate it - if I allow mistakes).


                Separate. For example, in most cases, work doesn’t bother me browsing the Internet hi

                Just to work, and to what I do on the network, I am equally responsible, not to the detriment of one another ...
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    8. vkl-47
      vkl-47 26 November 2015 09: 46
      +4
      no matter how then these trained "specialists" in Moscow with the golden stechkins didn’t put them on heliks. a library for their development would be better built and a training center could be built in Altai or in Siberia or anywhere but not in Chechnya. I don’t trust them
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 26 November 2015 09: 50
        +2
        I share your concern.
        --------------------
        Write better if you respect your language.
      2. good7
        good7 26 November 2015 09: 55
        -1
        Well, what about Putin's "infantrymen", there is already one "friend" of Erdogan, life does not teach anything!
      3. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 26 November 2015 10: 01
        0
        Quote: vkl-47
        no matter how then these trained "specialists" in Moscow with the golden stechkins didn’t put them on heliks. a library for their development would be better built and a training center could be built in Altai or in Siberia or anywhere but not in Chechnya. I don’t trust them



        If you want to weaken a potentially hostile people - they grew up with its benefits and amenities wink
    9. Bobxnumx
      Bobxnumx 26 November 2015 10: 08
      +3
      Based on history, Chechens ALWAYS only fought. In tsarist Russia, it has always been a combat reserve. The Chechen lava terrified everyone.
      1. good7
        good7 26 November 2015 11: 20
        +1
        This has always been a problem, both for tsarist Russia, the USSR and for modern Russia, I found the same reserve!
      2. lukke
        lukke 26 November 2015 13: 46
        0
        The Chechen lava terrified everyone.
        yeah, especially during the Second World War, when this "lava" deserted before reaching the front. At least go to the congresses of United Russia.
        1. good7
          good7 26 November 2015 14: 35
          0
          You are right, recent thugs have become heroes, they remembered all the merits to them, forgot about crimes.
        2. prishelec
          prishelec 26 November 2015 15: 49
          0
          Quote: lukke
          The Chechen lava terrified everyone.
          yeah, especially during the Second World War, when this "lava" deserted before reaching the front. At least go to the congresses of United Russia.

          During the Second World War, 30-35 thousand Chechens fought on the fronts,
          and there were no Nazis in Chechnya - apart from a sabotage group of 60-70 people, except that in the Malgobek district of Ingushetia a small part captured them and the same Vainakhs threw them out of there, so mass treachery and desertion are lies. I have never been to congresses!
          1. lukke
            lukke 26 November 2015 21: 56
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            Mass desertion of Chechens and Ingush: in just three years of World War II, 49362 Chechens and Ingush deserted from the Red Army, another 13389 “valiant highlanders” evaded conscription (Chuev S. North Caucasus 1941-1945. War in the rear. Observer. 2002, 2, No. XNUMX).
            For example: at the beginning of 1942, when creating a national division, only 50% personnel could be called up.
            In total, about 10 thousand Chechens and Ingush honestly served in the Red Army, 2,3 thousand people died and went missing. And more than 60 thousand of their relatives evaded military duty.

            - Banditry. From July 1941 to 1944, on the territory of the Chechen-Ingush Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic, the state security organs eliminated 197 gangs - 657 bandits were killed, 2762 were captured, 1113 surrendered voluntarily. For comparison, in the ranks of the Workers 'and Peasants' Red Army, almost half as many Chechens and Ingushs died or were captured. This is without counting the losses of the "Highlanders" in the ranks of Hitler's "Eastern battalions."

            Etc.
            1. prishelec
              prishelec 27 November 2015 02: 25
              0
              Quote: lukke
              Etc.

              Etc. etc.)) do you think I am not familiar with the Beria-Yid stinky propaganda that you quoted? having nothing to do with reality! Do you know what the Beria’s NKVdeshniki did and did in Chechnya? there is enough detailed information, facts and evidence from Russian historians, and not only, and from others, for which Caucasian and Crimean peoples were deported. There was no mass desertion and betrayal either among the Chechen-Ingush or among the Crimean Tatars.
              There is plenty of evidence in the German and other Western military archives that representatives of almost all the peoples of the USSR were traitors, but for some reason there are no Vainakhs among them!)) And there are many such facts!
              1. prishelec
                prishelec 27 November 2015 02: 39
                -2
                lukke
                Show me Goebbels for example,)) talking to a Chechen!)))
                1. lukke
                  lukke 27 November 2015 10: 12
                  0
                  About how we can insert pictures!) And what next? You I look so adventurous, a direct find for CNN. Well then, let's speculate: In the USSR there were many who surrendered, there were defectors, there were traitors (historical fact! No one argues) BUT if the Russians in the USSR in the same percentage as the Chechens did, the enemy would not be that Moscow came, and Vladivostok would have taken. Once again, since you have problems with mathematics, and probably with logic, 30 thousand Chechens fought as part of the Red Army, and 46 thousand deserted and some of them, including of the 30 thousand who fought. Normal statistics, Czech lover?
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                  2. prishelec
                    prishelec 27 November 2015 12: 47
                    0
                    lukke
                    I see that apart from Beria’s propaganda, you have nothing worthwhile,)) this, that, and that!
                    1. lukke
                      lukke 27 November 2015 13: 00
                      0
                      I see that apart from Beria’s propaganda, you have nothing worthwhile,)) this, that, and that!
                      In fact, all the numbers and data on the Internet were given from the declassified documents of the NKVD (there is no time to look), as well as for the Baltic "immigrants" indicating the categories of citizens and for what ...
                      But you seem to live by the principle of a hut - "we are all sitting here for nothing!")
                      1. prishelec
                        prishelec 27 November 2015 16: 18
                        0
                        lukke
                        I live by the principle of truth above all else!
                    2. lukke
                      lukke 27 November 2015 13: 00
                      0
                      I see that apart from Beria’s propaganda, you have nothing worthwhile,)) this, that, and that!
                      In fact, all the numbers and data on the Internet were given from the declassified documents of the NKVD (there is no time to look), as well as for the Baltic "immigrants" indicating the categories of citizens and for what ...
                      But you obviously live by the principle of a hut - "we are all here for nothing!")
              2. Heimdall48
                Heimdall48 27 November 2015 09: 22
                0
                not familiar with the Beria-Yid stinky propaganda you quoted? having nothing to do with reality! do you know what the beria nkvdeshniki did and what they did in Chechnya

                What can the authorities make, even if it’s twice Beria’s and three times Yid? - here I completely agree with you, in the midst of a difficult war, withdraw military units from the front in order to deport a bunch of healthy men (surrounded by others) to the rear, when the front was in short supply of soldiers who could these healthy bearded men become?
                For all their shortcomings, the Soviet authorities were not suicides and romantics, but were pragmatists and did not fool around.
                1. prishelec
                  prishelec 27 November 2015 12: 45
                  0
                  Heimdall48

                  Etc. etc.)) do you think I am not familiar with the Beria-Yid stinky propaganda that you quoted? having nothing to do with reality! Do you know what the Beria’s NKVdeshniki did and did in Chechnya? there is enough detailed information, facts and evidence from Russian historians, and not only, and from others, for which Caucasian and Crimean peoples were deported. There was no mass desertion and betrayal either among the Chechen-Ingush or among the Crimean Tatars.
                  There is plenty of evidence in the German and other Western military archives that representatives of almost all the peoples of the USSR were traitors, but for some reason there are no Vainakhs among them!)) And there are many such facts!

                  I see you liked the photo!)))
                  1. Heimdall48
                    Heimdall48 27 November 2015 15: 37
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                    I see you liked the photo!)))

                    Yes, the photo is nonsense. What does she prove? That quite a large part of the Russians collaborated with the Germans is indisputably true. But excuse me, you can’t give a damn from the bell tower, since the whole war with Germany rested on the same Russians, and as a percentage, all this is a goofy minuscule. But with the Chechens - a completely different calico.
                    You know the saying - "what is allowed to Jupiter is not allowed to a bull".
                    1. prishelec
                      prishelec 27 November 2015 16: 39
                      -1
                      Quote: Heimdall48
                      But with the Chechens - a completely different calico.

                      Exactly, and based on what tsarist Russia has been doing in Chechnya for several centuries in a row, simultaneously labeling them, yes, and the post-revolutionary time, too, the Chechens had, and have a moral right to everything, absolutely.
                      But all the same, except for the Beria lie, there is no evidence that the Chechens defected or massively surrendered to the Germans,)) but there are a lot of others! perhaps this is the end.

                      And finally, a dance for the Germans)) -
                      1. Heimdall48
                        Heimdall48 27 November 2015 16: 46
                        0
                        Tsarist Russia worked in Chechnya for several centuries in a row

                        She did what she had to do with robbers, robbers, slaveholders, keeping people in Zindans.
                        But still, except for the Beria lie, there is no evidence that the Chechens defected or massively surrendered to the Germans,)

                        You can forget about Beria, and remember how the Chechens behaved in the early 90s (they did not differ in loyalty to Russia, to put it mildly), draw an analogy and then the Beria lie does not seem to be such.
                        And dances - let them dance, it’s a good thing. )) It does not bother me.
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    10. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 26 November 2015 10: 10
      0
      Closer to nature ... Hunters test dogs on a beast ... And here, we’ll catch them in Syria, put them in cages and use them for their intended purpose ...
      Quote: Vladimir
      TsSP is certainly wonderful, but why in Chechnya?
  2. cniza
    cniza 26 November 2015 09: 22
    +6
    We had a good base In Gori, a new one I think will be better.
  3. Teberii
    Teberii 26 November 2015 09: 24
    +2
    Everything should be better, weapons, equipment and training. And where it does not matter.
  4. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 26 November 2015 09: 26
    +6
    It is very useful to locate not only military training facilities in the North Caucasus, but also sports facilities in order to maximize the potential of "hot" Caucasian blood for the good of the Motherland. laughing
  5. Aurum
    Aurum 26 November 2015 09: 32
    -3
    You can certainly make fun of it, but Ramzan is the only head of the region that these bearded imbeciles igiloids are afraid of.
    Eeeh, he would have been President, if there were no Chubais, no Grefs, no liberals, and other hypocritical, unreliable riffraff in power. We would personally see the real fruits of the fight against corruption.
    Private opinion.
    1. good7
      good7 26 November 2015 10: 31
      0
      You can go to permanent residence in Chechnya, we do not need such a beastman!
      1. Aurum
        Aurum 26 November 2015 16: 25
        0
        I understand that you need Serdyukov with a butler and billionaire Shoigu
    2. Heimdall48
      Heimdall48 26 November 2015 14: 43
      +1
      if he were President, then there would have been no Chubais, no Grefs, or liberals in power

      God save ... He would be to the far North in a pea coat for construction or sawing to work once in a lifetime.
      1. Aurum
        Aurum 26 November 2015 16: 37
        0
        yes, yes, but stick Yeltsin’s monuments everywhere, and during his lifetime a monument to Dyachenko, for courage in plundering 4 yards of greenery.
        I am surprised why Chubais was not made Minister of Defense ... he would have done the job.
        And let Ramzan fight, in Donbas, in Ossetia, with Wahhabis and others.
        1. Heimdall48
          Heimdall48 26 November 2015 17: 19
          0
          Yeltsin, as it were, has nothing to do with it, although essentially the same enemy.
          And let Ramzan fight, in Donbas, in Ossetia

          Ramzan sits in its place while the Russian forces are not enough and tear in the brain. But the mess will end someday and all the thieves will go to their destination. But not in the Donbass.
  6. Hell's Angel
    Hell's Angel 26 November 2015 09: 37
    +2
    If only we had this in Siberia!
    Interestingly, all power structures will be allowed there? Or only the "chosen ones"?
    1. Konstantin Yu
      Konstantin Yu 26 November 2015 14: 53
      0
      I think the siloviki will take practice there ...
  7. 222222
    222222 26 November 2015 09: 39
    0
    Aurum SU Today, 09:32 ", it would be for President, .."
    To begin with ... head ... the Ministry of the Interior of the Russian Federation .... hi
  8. Denis DV
    Denis DV 26 November 2015 09: 44
    +4
    The center can accommodate 300 football fields


    You can ward off the layout of the Pentagon, and most importantly, there are enough specialists for a global training drinks laughing
  9. Stepan stepanovich
    Stepan stepanovich 26 November 2015 09: 50
    +2
    Quote: 222222
    Aurum SU Today, 09:32 ", it would be for President, .."
    To begin with ... head ... the Ministry of the Interior of the Russian Federation ....


    In, as the current got. It is indicative, however.
    1. good7
      good7 26 November 2015 10: 35
      0
      You communicated with the Chechens, then everything breaks into central Russia, for the wrong word there and you can shoot it to idiots. Sit comments write there him here, he tries for the Chechens, the rest can sit in Zindans!
  10. bydanoff.val
    bydanoff.val 26 November 2015 09: 54
    -1
    And who will contain all this? Nothing is clear already. Stadiums, F1 tracks, centers. And who will plow in the fields ?.
    1. Denis DV
      Denis DV 26 November 2015 09: 56
      0
      Harness and Pasha laughing
    2. eaz
      eaz 26 November 2015 10: 11
      +1
      I'm plowing tired yet
    3. good7
      good7 26 November 2015 11: 22
      +1
      So their idol will quickly determine who is in the warriors, and whom and slaves.
  11. Vladimir
    Vladimir 26 November 2015 10: 06
    +3
    In Chechnya, I think it’s necessary to build other facilities so that it wouldn’t be better for Chechens to take up bad thoughts from idleness. And such training centers and their secondary facilities should be closer to Moscow, is it really not enough space in Russia, but this is my opinion from the mountain it is more visible.
    1. good7
      good7 26 November 2015 10: 36
      0
      You are absolutely right!
  12. Chulman
    Chulman 26 November 2015 10: 07
    0
    Quote: good7
    Well, what about Putin's "infantrymen", there is already one "friend" of Erdogan, life does not teach anything!

    I support you!
  13. UZBEK TASHKENT
    UZBEK TASHKENT 26 November 2015 10: 11
    +4
    Guys, read the center carefully. Federal significance complex. Why in Chechnya? - Why not? The guys are strong, loyal and fearless. True warriors - remember how in 2008 the Georgians fled with mattresses when they threw the guys from the Caucasus into a breakthrough. The Circassian regiment, remember that the tsar provided personal protection. The result - a million pluses to the guys. Allah to the rescue!
    1. good7
      good7 26 November 2015 10: 41
      0
      What are devotees doing? To us in the Black Earth region, that few zinc coffins returned, are we less devoted? We do not have a national idea of ​​a mono state, but the Chechens have it! And I remember the three hundred year history of the Caucasian wars, so there are no pluses! And remember the Preobrazhensky and Semenovsky regiment! Not Allah to the rescue!
      1. Denis DV
        Denis DV 26 November 2015 15: 55
        0
        We did not fight against Chechens, but against terrorists, for the most part with Arab mercenaries and their henchmen. Do not go under Western propaganda, Chechnya wetted them with us.
    2. Vitaly Anisimov
      Vitaly Anisimov 26 November 2015 10: 54
      +2
      Quote: UZBEK TASHKENT
      Guys, read the center carefully. Federal significance complex. Why in Chechnya? - Why not? The guys are strong, loyal and fearless. True warriors - remember how in 2008 the Georgians fled with mattresses when they threw the guys from the Caucasus into a breakthrough. The Circassian regiment, remember that the tsar provided personal protection. The result - a million pluses to the guys. Allah to the rescue!

      I agree with you! And I would also add how terribly they were afraid of Bandera ... As the saying goes, "Whoever remembers the old will be out of sight ..." We all remember and they too! Now they need to unite ... Chechens have always been able to fight honestly and loyally on our side when Russia is strong! Alas, this is their main condition ... You need to use this! The time has come for them, their duty to fulfill .. hi
      1. lukke
        lukke 26 November 2015 15: 22
        +1
        And I would also add how Bandera were terribly afraid of them ...
        As far as I remember the Czechs with UNA-UNSO from 1995 to "zero" fought with us together ?! or do you have other information?
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  14. eaz
    eaz 26 November 2015 10: 13
    +2
    and I’m holding pigs. I’ll have to cut off the heads of the Basmachi
  15. Vitaly Anisimov
    Vitaly Anisimov 26 November 2015 10: 15
    +2
    I think the topic (Chechnya Forge Special Forces):
    It was in the early 2000s (then business trips to Chechnya "cops" were a common thing)
    We decided to conduct an exercise (close to reality) "Robbery of collectors" In general, we "robbed" them, we even shot them a little, we took one of them as "hostages";
    I jokingly ask "We will not be shot by chance ..?"))))
    Chief of Staff: "Yes, everyone should not be warned, although everyone has combat cartridges ..")))
    And so quietly to me: "You wouldn't drive too much, otherwise our equipment is old, until they start ... you understand .."
    And then suddenly, at the crossroads, the "cop's gig" flies out and brakes the guys in helmets and armored vehicles out of the car on one knee and start firing into the air ...!
    I almost flew away from the unexpected ...
    Nashtaba did not expect swearing either ...
    Yelling, I'll arrange it ..!
    Then calmly, "We came from Chechnya recently, but the habit remained ..")))
    I also calmed down and the only thing I could say was "They all worked correctly and clearly .. Don't scold them!)
    After half a kilometer we were finally blocked (even in the "monkey sat in handcuffs))))
    The guys were not special forces and not riot police, ordinary PPS!
  16. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 26 November 2015 10: 32
    0
    Quote: The Cat
    If you want to weaken a potentially hostile people - they grew up with its benefits and amenities

    Are you personally in favor of the "Anglo-Saxon" option of making friends? I sit down with friends at the table, although I can have a different opinion about politics and economics, and despite the differences I love and respect my friends. In the Caucasus, you are either friend or foe, the third not given.
  17. Zheka40
    Zheka40 26 November 2015 10: 56
    0
    Quote: good7
    Yunus-Bek Yevkurov strongly dislikes Ramzan and this is a fact. And he is an officer of the Russian Federation, not a former separatist!

    The Ingush and Chechens have always disliked each other, so no wonder.
  18. murking
    murking 26 November 2015 11: 06
    +1
    Firstly, Chechnya poses no threat, militarily for present-day Russia, due to different military capabilities. Secondly, it is the sting of terrorists directed to the Caucasus, and it is there that a lot of young people leave for the forest or leave for Syria, and after that they try arrange sabotage. Kadyrov himself understands the Chechen special services, they suffer losses in this fight, so they need to be well trained and supported if you don’t want the guys from Siberia or the Far East to die and lose their heads there. And nowhere from this submarine there are no other options, in this chess game this is the only possible correct move.
    1. good7
      good7 26 November 2015 11: 25
      0
      In fact, their sting is aimed at the whole world, I do not belittle the merits of Ramzan in the counter-terrorism field, but I blindly trust him - you have to be a complete idiot!
      1. murking
        murking 26 November 2015 11: 46
        +1
        There is no concept of trust in politics, there are concepts of moves, future moves and counter-moves. Ramzan's father died at the hands of terrorists, he himself had several assassination attempts, a perfectly normal candidate. Botanik with glasses, with a book on democracy is not needed there, he fought against federal forces, so almost all of Chechnya fought there.
        1. good7
          good7 26 November 2015 12: 37
          0
          His father, a former terrorist, should not forget about this either!
  19. kit-kat
    kit-kat 26 November 2015 11: 32
    0
    Why in Chechnya? Why not in the Urals?
  20. FAM
    FAM 26 November 2015 11: 52
    0
    Well done Kadyrov!
    But only again, as always - no matter what we do, we get a Kalashnikov assault rifle. Kadyrov realized that if this were so, it was necessary to do just that, so as not to waste time and money.
    1. good7
      good7 26 November 2015 14: 43
      +1
      Personal stable with horses from $ 300 thousand to $ 2,5 million per head money is not empty? Or is he a dervish?
      1. Aurum
        Aurum 26 November 2015 22: 22
        0
        most governors have such stables, some in the countries of the probable adversary (not sickly such stables with clear lashadas), not to mention deputies and ministers, only Golikov is worth it, she needed to go to prison, and she rules in the accounting chamber. Wonderful your affairs edrosi
  21. Gunther
    Gunther 26 November 2015 11: 56
    0
    At the base of the center, anti-terror group training will be held. They will be taught tactics and techniques of warfare in cities, forests, mountains and even under water.

    If under water, then in the Crimea there is a place for the center, and mountains are available.
    good7 Quote:
    .... but blindly trust him - you have to be a complete idiot!

    Plus - trust, but check!
  22. Gunther
    Gunther 26 November 2015 16: 23
    +1
    UZBEK TASHKENT Quote:
    ..Cherkessky regiment remember that the tsar provided personal protection.

    Yes, by the way, what about the tsar, did the true warriors provide protection?