Turkey said it was ready for any military cooperation with Russia

The Military Attache of the Russian Embassy in the Republic of Turkey was summoned to the Turkish General Staff. It is reported that the Russian representative "was informed about the incident with the Su-24 bomber." RIA News, referring to the Turkish media, said that the Russian military attache had been given information about the "incident". A telephone conversation with the Russian General Staff took place with the message that "Ankara is ready for further information exchange."

From the document, the text of which is published by the news agency:

For our part, all questions were answered using maps and radar data and assurances of readiness to exchange any information. In addition to this, the Turkish side contacted by telephone with the military departments in Moscow and expressed readiness for any cooperation.

If Ankara makes attempts to hush up its own violation of international law and an obvious attack on Russia, then this is not the best way for it. After all, if now the Turks are talking about “readiness to exchange information,” then why didn’t they exchange information with Russia before striking a Russian bomber on a counter-terrorism mission?

After all, between Ankara and Moscow, a special communication line was created for the urgent resolution of all problems that arise ...

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[subbtin.725]

Late to drink Borjomi ...

[venaya]

Quote: subbtin.725

Late to drink Borjomi ...

After all, if the Turks are now talking about “readiness to exchange information,” why didn’t they exchange information with Russia before striking a Russian bomber on a counterterrorism mission?

And they wanted to gain something for themselves, some kind of "nishyachok", but all their allies quickly abandoned the Turks. Do not forget that Turkey has not yet been admitted to the European Union, and this says a lot, they are always promised, but they are not going to fulfill anything from these promises.

[Russiamoy]

, but all their allies were quickly abandoned by the Turks.

nobody left anyone. Our downed plane is a well-designed provocation of Amers and Turks. this is not Turkish amateur activity. moreover, almost everyone in Europe supported Turkey. Well, and secondly. none of the Turkish military leaders including officially apologized. And this is the main point. us like kittens poked their nose into a sled rag and showed their place. where we should and where we should not climb. that's all.

[Diana Ilyina]

Rossiyamya, well, if you were personally poked with your nose, then these are your problems, you don’t need to drag all Russia into your ambitions!

What kind of men they went, all around whiners and all-crawlers!

[Russiamoy]

in this context, the answer was that the allies did not abandon Turkey. and if you like to talk about provocation and enjoy cynical cries from Turkey, then hold the flag. ps what ambitions ?. a set of beautiful words and ...?

[Diana Ilyina]

Russia, first of all, your shift key doesn’t work, or is it such a complex, write everything with a capital letter ?!

Secondly, what kind of reaction did you expect ?! In your opinion, Putin should have turned Ankara and another half of Turkey into a bunker into radioactive ashes ?!

They told you all, wait, the rush is needed only when catching fleas! Politics is a delicate matter and does not like haste! And in general there is nothing to hysteria about and without!

[WKS]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

Russia, first of all, your shift key doesn’t work, or is it such a complex, write everything with a capital letter ?!

He writes by hand ...

[aleks 62 next]

.... In your opinion, Putin should have turned Ankara and another half of Turkey into a bunker into radioactive ashes?! ...


.... If not Ankara, then Irdzhilik for sure .... Believe me .... NAT partners would have kept silent .... How can I imagine that now he is sitting in the watch room on Irdzhilik ubl..doc, who shot down the plane and boasts what he's cool, how he flunked the "Russian" ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: aleks 62 next

How can I imagine that he is now sitting in the duty room on Irdzhilik ubl..doc, who shot down the plane and boasts how cool he is, how he flunked the "Russian" ...

Hitting an invisible bomb in the back is not heroism, it’s meanness. did not try to do a dodge maneuver.
Why boast a Turk? She is a meanness and a meanness in Africa.

[Baikonur]

Again, I will supplement my post on 24.11.2015

Unfriendly Act?!?!?!
The same thing, that you are being shot in the forehead, but you say - this is some kind of unfriendly act! Turn around and leave with a bullet in your head, like - "I'll think about it! How to proceed? I don't know!"
In nature, there’s nothing left to think!

And here they also tell you after: "Wait, where are you? Let's continue! (COOPERATION!)

[TVM - 75]

From the side of the Turks a bouquet of cowardice and meanness! And our science - Do not lose vigilance! Western friend = vile enemy. It's time to remember that. Historical experience is available.

[captain]

Russia generally cannot have reliable allies in principle. This was very good said by our Tsar Alexander iii: Russia has no friends. They are afraid of our vastness. In the whole world we have only 2 faithful ally, our army and navy. Everyone else, at the earliest opportunity, will gang themselves up against us. Well and wisely said.

[aleks 62 next]

..... Korea, even the ACT (radiation warning system) Birch was not included,

.... What kind of STR ???? .... A rocket with a thermal seeker ..... It is launched in the line of sight, on a signal of head capture ..... Do you think that he (the Turk) was in painful doubt who is in front of him ??? .... In that place there are constant flights of OUR planes (well, such an abnormal approach scheme, because ONLY OUR planes are based, and the runway is located at a slight angle to the Turkish border .....)

[NEXUS]

Quote: aleks 62 next

.... What kind of STR ???? .... Rocket with thermal GOS ....

True, but, the radar can be "on" before launch, to enter the range into the PIM (preliminary actuator) ... and most likely it was ... but the SPO was turned off, our pilots did not see the irradiation.
I think it was like that.

[AlexG83]

Quote: NEXUS

Quote: aleks 62 next

How can I imagine that he is now sitting in the duty room on Irdzhilik ubl..doc, who shot down the plane and boasts how cool he is, how he flunked the "Russian" ...

Hitting an invisible bomb in the back is not heroism, it’s meanness. did not try to do a dodge maneuver.
Why boast a Turk? She is a meanness and a meanness in Africa.

Another thing is interesting, why did they not warn the Su-24 from the ground that this efka was sneaking up to him with incomprehensible intentions? At the base in Latakia and on "Moscow" radars were supposed to record all this. Okay, so called, it is upsetting that this F-16 was not killed immediately in response.

[voffchik7691]

PARDON ME! missed instead of + got a minus. Sorry again!

[Vasek Trubachev]

The time has come and Russia, without looking at the NATs, will clean up the presumptuous political son of a bitch.

[arane]

Quote: aleks 62 next

.... In your opinion, Putin should have turned Ankara and another half of Turkey into a bunker into radioactive ashes?! ...


.... If not Ankara, then Irdzhilik for sure .... Believe me .... NAT partners would have kept silent .... How can I imagine that now he is sitting in the watch room on Irdzhilik ubl..doc, who shot down the plane and boasts what he's cool, how he flunked the "Russian" ...

That's where you come from. I can understand everything, at least the calibers, even the Iskandnras in Turkey, although I do not agree. But calls for a nuclear strike in this case .....

[demos1111]

A single nuclear strike at terrorist clusters on the very outskirts of Syria would not be very flush. And what does Turkey have to do with it, they valuedly answered them.
Fight fire with fire. The West does not understand otherwise, and the East seems to be the same. Well, we do not have the opportunity to get involved in military conflicts around the entire perimeter of our borders. The faster our command understands the less blood and resources we lose.

[Diana Ilyina]

Quote: demos1111

A single nuclear strike at terrorist clusters on the very outskirts of Syria would not be very flush.

Where did you get these sick on your head ?! What a nuclear strike ?! In the Turkish sun overheated ?!

[Kalmar]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

Secondly, what kind of reaction did you expect ?! In your opinion, Putin should have turned Ankara and another half of Turkey into a bunker into radioactive ashes ?!

In truth, some decisive reaction was to follow. Let not radioactive ashes, but no less subtle hint of thick circumstances.

In the meantime, we see only condemnations, promises “not to leave it this way” and other verbiage; At this rate, the incident will simply quietly shut up and that's it. It is surprising that the same tour operators showed even more determination by closing Turkey.

[Diana Ilyina]

In truth, some decisive reaction was to follow. Let not radioactive ashes, but no less subtle hint of thick circumstances.

That is, in your opinion, the supply of the S-400 complexes and the overlap by Moscow of the flight zone on the border with Turkey is "no reaction" ?! Now not a single plane, not only Turkish, will be able to fly over Syria without our knowledge! This is not enough for you ?! Is it necessary to cover someone with a nuclear bomb ?!

[Kalmar]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

That is, in your opinion, the supply of the S-400 complexes and the overlap by Moscow of the flight zone on the border with Turkey is "no reaction" ?!

There is no need to drag "Moscow" - this cruiser has a range of air defense systems of no more than 90 km. I don't know what he can block there alone.

S-400, as I understand it, have not arrived in Latakia yet. Now guess how they will get there? Right, by sea through the Black Sea straits, which are controlled by who? That's right, Turkey. So this is all written with a pitchfork.

Finally, the F-16s that our bomber shot down over Syria and did not fly, quietly fired from its territory. This is so, by the way.

[Diana Ilyina]

Finally, the F-16s that our bomber shot down over Syria and did not fly, quietly fired from its territory. This is so, by the way.

By the way, their plane flew into Syria! Follow the news! As for the supply of S-400, they are already in Syria, and if not, don’t worry, we will find ways and means of delivery!

[Kalmar]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

and if not, don’t worry, we will find ways and means of delivery!

The question is how long it will take: there is no point in waving fists a month after the fight.

And in any case, the normal air defense base - this is not a response. This is a measure that should have been ensured from the very beginning, and not when the roasted rooster pecked.

[red_october]

S-400, as I understand it, has not yet arrived in Latakia. Now guess how they will get there? That's right, the sea through the Black Sea straits, which controls who? That's right, Turkey. So this is all written with a pitchfork

Already transferred, did not follow your recommendations and through the straits. Now C-400 covers all of Syria, a third of Turkey and part of Israel.

[Kalmar]

Quote: red_october

Now the S-400 covers all of Syria, a third of Turkey and part of Israel.

Hmm, better late than never :) Only a downed plane and a dead pilot will not help. And it no longer affects the international image of the Russian Federation. Is it that now someone will be brought down in an exemplary manner, to which Turkey has promised to snap back in advance.

[red_october]

Or maybe it will help those pilots who are now working in the sky over Syria?

[Russiamoy]

it’s useless to drive a conversation, they didn’t understand what was written. where about radiation? it was said that we need (at least) an apology, and then our thoughtful answer, and the offer of the Turks is a mockery. THERE IS MY SEND
P, C, at the expense of writing, teach your husband (wife) cabbage soup.

[meriem1]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

Rossiyamya, well, if you were personally poked with your nose, then these are your problems, you don’t need to drag all Russia into your ambitions!

What kind of men they went, all around whiners and all-crawlers!

That is Madam. They poked their nose ... And now they offer to shuffle their feet and wash !!! And Russia, she and mine are the same. And I poured blood for Rodima! The message is clear ... but only in places!

[Diana Ilyina]

And I poured blood for Rodima! The message is clear ... but only in places!

Most of all I liked your "I" with a capital letter! My older brother served in special forces, in maroon berets, fought in the Caucasus, was wounded, has awards, and so you can't get a word out of him, that he fought somewhere there!

Forgive me, but in my opinion the people who write that they "poured blood for the Russian land", in fact, turn out to be balabolians and close to the gunpowder not sniffing!

Ksati, my grandfather is an artillery officer, went through two wars, the Finnish and the Second World War, was wounded several times, and so I never heard from him that he "shed blood"!

So do not puff up, it makes the opposite impression about a person!

[dali]

Quote: Diana Ilyina

Ksati, my grandfather is an artillery officer, went through two wars, the Finnish and the Second World War, was wounded several times, and so I never heard from him that he "shed blood"!

And my grandfather, too, never boasted that he was so all of himself "shed blood for us." Damn, yes, I generally pulled out of him with great difficulty so that he would talk about the war ...

So I agree with you !!!

[Diana Ilyina]

And my grandfather, too, never boasted that he was so all of himself "shed blood for us."

Their generation was completely different! I have another paternal grandfather, so he was a tankman, burned several times in a tank, and near Kursk he parted his skull, remained alive, but was shell-shocked! Grandmother told me that you couldn’t go to the cinema about the war, he got stuck and went on the attack right in the cinema! But he also never screamed that he was pouring blood!

[meriem1]

I am a warrior and really poured blood. Both mine and Alien. Peeing empty is easier than fighting. I am really capitalized! If you want, then pull yourself up. I'll show you a couple of awards! Pyzhirutsya like you! I was doing business ... and not bad. Your destiny frowns and whines !!! Not knowing people ... fuck fucking tongue !!! I hope not offended !!! Think at your leisure !!! Yours sincerely, Warrior and Protector !!!!

[Diana Ilyina]

I already wrote to you that people who usually do not have them are beating themselves in the chest and showing their "merits"! A real Warrior and a Man are adorned with modesty! You, unfortunately, do not fall into this category!

[dali]

Quote: meriem1

I am a warrior and really poured blood. Both mine and Alien. Peeing empty is easier than fighting. I'm actually capitalized!

The more you knock your hoof on your chest, the less you believe ...

[Company]

Here, here, revenge is a delicious cold dish.

[Company]

Here, here, revenge is a delicious cold dish.

[demo]

us like kittens poked their nose in a sledge rag

You need to write pissing. It seems to me.
And then we get a rag for a sled.

Yes. You're right. This is a clearly planned provocation.
But we can respond to the Turks properly.
To begin with, the place where the Turkish brothers live methodically will make completely dead land.
Regardless of age, gender and religious affiliation.
The Mediterranean squadron has already begun.
Next.
Attempts by the Turks to fly over Syria will now end badly. For the Turks.
And they will not get off with one plane or a helicopter.

Fuel trucks generally stop driving.

But this doesn’t justify our Russian mentality to believe everyone and everyone.
Especially the Turks.
Was it possible from the very beginning to use electronic warfare systems against terrorist aircraft?
So that half of Turkey could not even use the phone.
Can.
And we are partners, friends.
Why are such kind-hearted, stupid people in the Kremlin sitting?

Around Russia, only enemies or traitors.
This is not paranoia! It is a fact!
And with this fact one must live and act.

[ArhipenkoAndrey]

I completely agree with you, but still it would be necessary to mix with the shit.mom the place from where they shot at our pilots descending by parachutes, so that the Turkomen in their pants crap when thinking about shooting towards Russian aircraft - that would be the answer.

[Firstvanguard]

Quote: ArhipenkoAndrey

it would be necessary to mix with the shit.mom that place from where they shot at our pilots descending by parachutes,

Do you think the special forces that saved the drying navigator ran around with flowers there?

[pilot8878]

Quote: Firstvanguard

Do you think the special forces that saved the drying navigator ran around with flowers there?

Specialists, most likely, passed quietly and imperceptibly there. Their task was to save the navigator, and not a demonstration in front of the podium.

[Firstvanguard]

Quote: demo

But this doesn’t justify our Russian mentality to believe everyone and everyone.
Especially the Turks.
Was it possible from the very beginning to use electronic warfare systems against terrorist aircraft?
So that half of Turkey could not even use the phone.
Can.
And we are partners, friends.
Why are such kind-hearted, stupid people in the Kremlin sitting?

You are partly right (in my understanding), but only partly. GDP before intervening in some international process, as a result of interference in which, its participants will have to endure negative consequences for themselves. He always offers some alternative with the appropriate "nishtyaks", this is what distinguishes Russian policy from the United States. They have one alternative - it will be ours or we will bomb you. GDP respects the interests of other countries and countries, Turkey had a choice to abandon the "black" oil flow and ride the "white" gas flow. And the Turks themselves made a choice. This behavior of Russia is a very important factor for other states when making their choice.

[Served once]

There are no "friends" and "partners" in business. Conscience, Honor and Dignity are inappropriate in it, alas ...

[Turkir]

moreover, almost everyone in Europe supported Turkey

Is all of Europe NATO?

[gjv]

Quote: Turkir

Is all of Europe NATO?

Greeks, members of NATO, as well as Turks. The Greeks very often squeak about violations by the Turkish Armed Forces of the airspace of Greece. However, something has never been hit by a partner. Even attempts to force landing or ousting from the airspace were not visible.

[NEXUS]

Quote: gjv

Greeks, members of NATO, as well as Turks. The Greeks very often squeak about violations by the Turkish Armed Forces of the airspace of Greece. However, something has never been hit by a partner. Even attempts to force landing or ousting from the airspace were not visible.

I think soon S-300/400 complexes will appear in Greece.

[gjv]

Quote: NEXUS

Greece will have complexes S-300/400

Andrew, the Greeks have - άμυνα αντιαεροπορικά - translated as "air defense". And in the composition of the Greek άμυνα αντιαεροπορικά there is already S-300PMU1! And not only, but also 9K331 Tor-M1, PAC-3 Patriot, Crotale NG / GR, Skyguard-Sparrow. And the Greeks also have F-16s, Mirages and Phantoms. Why only squeak? Why do not use?
In addition, since cases often occur over the sea, they also have frigates armed with the RIM-162 ESSM and Sea Sparrow, as well as missile boats with the RIM-116 Rolling Airframe Missile. Recently, just large-scale exercises of missile boats took place at them. Why practically do not use ?!

[NEXUS]

Quote: gjv

Why practically do not use ?!

Because they are afraid, because they didn’t want aggravation. Now the same GDP is in fact untied. And do not care about the West. Work at the nuclear power plant must be curtailed (if not already curtailed), the embargo on all Turkish goods, the deportation of all Turks on the territory RF and the Kuban to block the "Blue Stream". This is all the first thing. And do not forget about the tourists and the diplomatic mission with workers (return to the homeland).
Well, in parallel, arm the Kurds, equip Assad’s army and deploy Iskanders at the Armenian bases, closer to the borders of Turkey. Accordingly, as tightly as possible (without white spots) block the sky of Syria (and parts of Turkey, near the Syrian border) with air defense systems and electronic warfare systems (for example, Krasukha- 4) .Also build up the fighter component of the VKS group in Syria. Well and bring into combat (I am sure that it has already been done) the Black Sea Fleet, the Mediterranean squadron and Crimea.
Again, can use the ports of Cyprus (which invited us).
In general, let's see.
As for whether our F-16-Y ground radars have seen ... I think they saw it, but did not attach much importance to it, due to the "non-attack pact." And when the interceptor worked on our drying, he quickly went deep into Turkey, and Our air defense systems, neither land-based nor ship-based, would have stupidly got it. Well, something like that.
Sincerely.

[Russiamoy]

it was said, from the side of the "allies" it was presented as follows. not my opinion. and you insult yourself with rudeness.
ps there are enough links on the site

[Alexey-74]

read carefully the reaction of Europe and the Pentagon .......

[Altona]

Quote: Russiamoya

Well, and secondly. none of the Turkish military leaders including officially apologized. And this is the main point. us like kittens poked their nose into a sled rag and showed their place. where we should and where we should not climb. that's all.

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This support goes sideways on them, the population then ceases to understand who NATO supports ... Secondly, ours now have more reasons to level the "peaceful settlements of Turkomans" in Latakia and Alexandretta ...

[15ghost10]

I think the flyers on the F16 were Americans.

[litus]

"Rossiyamoya", your nickname is painfully provocative. Suspicious

[Russiamoy]

well?)))) dig deeper somewhere

[Omskgasmyas]

My version of such cooperation:
Turks are ready to be targeted.
If only the top of the Ottomans survived in a meat grinder.

[gjv]

Quote: Omskgazmyas

would the top of the Ottomans survived in a meat grinder

Here is the top - Ottoman Erdogan and all his brush then it is necessary to pull up!

[ermak.sidorov]

To be honest, I'm just amazed how the EUs and the Americans merged the Turks ... easily and naturally.

[79807420129]

Quote: subbtin.725

Late to drink Borjomi ...

Moreover, when the kidneys have already fallen off, now they cannot be trusted.

[glotich]

For that we are not ready, that’s it, period.

[yugan]

Quote: glotich

For that we are not ready, that’s it, period.

Let them "interact" with the S-300 or S-400. Fuck him, then we will write that the rocket sent a warning 100500 times, and in Turkish.

[Blondy]

Well, why, you can collaborate. If you implement the Turkish concept of sovereignty and borders, then flight safety most likely should be ensured as follows: when ours take off, the Turks must sit on the ground. If someone is yanking, they will knock him down, and strike at the base airfield in order to guarantee a safe sky.
Here, somewhere in this context.

[aleks 62 next]

..... Turks must sit on the ground ...

..... No flights to the Turks ..... In the best case, let them train attached to the airfield tractor ..... And then for them this is a lot ...

[cniza]

Quote: 79807420129

Quote: subbtin.725

Late to drink Borjomi ...

Moreover, when the kidneys have already fallen off, now they cannot be trusted.

Looks like they put on the pants in full.

[Rostovchanin]

Meanwhile, the baboons were moody ...

[Garis]

The poor fellow already plucked his voice ...

[aleks 62 next]

.... Poor guy already ripped off his voice ...


.... To live then hoozza !!!! ....

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Rostovchanin

Meanwhile, the baboons were moody.

In the end, it’s like a nuclear one has arrived.

[yugan]

I didn’t understand at the end of the video - did the operator fly too?

[subbtin.725]

Quote: Rostovchanin

Meanwhile, the baboons were moody ...

A good video. But the Babai wanted to go to heaven, here, get a sign. Not only to paradise, but to HELL. Retribution will be inevitable.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Rostovchanin

Meanwhile, the baboons were moody ...

Dmitry! Thank you for the video. Pleased the old man. Especially the commentator overs amused. Struck by his vocabulary. I don’t understand what kind of chip to mention the name of the Almighty for any reason. It seems that even stepping in Mr. He, too, Allah will remember. In his (commentator's) place, I would use a few other, world-famous turns of speech from the great and mighty Russian language.

[ermak.sidorov]

"the smell of napalm in the morning"
... in the end did it fly himself or did he just embarrassingly lower the camera?

SPECIALISTS !!! Who knows what kind of unit this is (I found New Russian weapons in Syria) yesterday on YouTube ...in appearance, it looks like a new episode of Star Wars ...

[15ghost10]

it's just tin! I hope the bearded TV star, who boasted that she killed the pilot, was destroyed by atoms.

[Thronekeeper]

Well - when 600 oil fillers for Churkogan from UG burned the VKS, an amphibioasphyxia occurred at the turkish reprimand.
(this is when the toad smothers).
Did a stupid thing. Trying to back up ...
Turkey said it was ready for any military cooperation with Russia
The command of the Aerospace Forces and Air Defense / Missile Defense said in response that the SAM and RVV class 40N6E, R-37 and R-77PD had already gone to establish an ardent cooperation with the Churek Falcon.

Which is funny. Not only Turks and Jews do not fly and turned off the radar. Even Britons with pendoSSami. Our French are allowed, but in such a situation there is no particular desire - it is stingy.

[aleks 62 next]

.... disconnected the radar.

. ..... The work of the radar will be perceived as a threat to the operation of air defense .... For a long time so .... I think the X-31s (anti-radar) have already been brought to Syria .....

[Finches]

To crush the Ottomans in the best traditions of Alexander Suvorov, and not to breed polites!

That would bring troops to Kiev a year ago and hang the junta like a pin .. Hussein, now not only Erdogan would not squeak! And so .... Though, according to the rules of military science, bombers and turntables of evacuation without military guard do not let go!

[go21zd45few]

I will add, in the best traditions of Suvorov, Ushakov and Nakhimov.

[Good me]

Quote: go21zd45few

I will add, in the best traditions of Suvorov, Ushakov and Nakhimov.

Since the time of the conquest of Kazan and Astrakhan by Ioann Vasilyevich the Terrible, the Ottomans "arose" ELEVEN TIMES before Russia, and in ELEVEN WARS WERE CONSTANTLY BEING DEFEATED ...

The Golden Age of Catherine the Great is especially indicative in this respect. Then, the young Russian Empire, on land and at sea, faced in their own interests with the powerful Ottoman Empire, supported in its ambitions by the West, especially Britain, which at that time claimed the status of "exceptionalism" ...

But it did not grow together ... Neither the Ottoman Turks, nor the then "exceptional" ...

[corn]

Quote: Good Me

the Ottomans ELEVEN TIMES "arose" before Russia and in ELEVEN WARS ENDURED THE DEFEATS ...

Twelve times and mostly defeated

[Polite Moose]

Eugene! My regards.

Quote: Finches

That would bring troops to Kiev a year ago and hang the junta like a pin .. Hussein, now not only Erdogan would not squeak!

I don’t think it would have been that simple if we had brought troops into Ukraine. Hussein's s-s were overthrown and hanged because he did not have any concrete help from us. Neither diplomatic nor military. A living example of Hussein and Assad. As the saying goes, "feel the difference." Further: all the scum, which is now fighting in Syria on the side of IS, in sleeping cars and business class would have moved to Ukraine to fight the aggressor. The evidence of aggression would be over the roof. Their weapons would be immeasurable. And the most technologically advanced. What price would we pay for bringing in troops? The lives of our soldiers. Plus international isolation. (not clown sanctions, but persecution by the whole world) I believe that Ukraine will be reformatted in the near future even without our invasion. No one will feed the Ukrainians endlessly. Product No. 2 is usually thrown away after use. Yes, and "General" Frost is on the way.
This is for Ukrainians.

As for the Turks

Quote: Finches

To crush the Ottomans in the best traditions of Alexander Suvorov, and not to breed polites!

That is my deep conviction that first we need to take our citizens out of Turkey, otherwise, in case of a military mess, the Turks will do it from all the Nord-Ost hotels. And also we must not forget about the withdrawal of our capital from the Turkish economic space. For our economy, a "penny" will not be superfluous. And only after all this can one begin to react harshly with forceful methods to any, even conditionally hostile, actions of not very clever descendants of the janissaries. But, nevertheless, the greatest pressure should be exerted in the economic and political sphere. We have a very wide field for creativity. Kurds, vindictive Syrians, and about offended Greeks can be remembered. Turkish Stream is also not a hat of crackers.
The goal should be the recognition by Turkey in the international arena of its wrongness with our aircraft. Apologies to Russia at the official level. Compensation of the Russian Federation and the families of the victims. Issuance to Russian justice of authors and executors of a criminal order to attack our plane. The resignation of the current criminal government.
Only after the execution of all of the above can you sit down at the negotiating table.
But, in my opinion, nothing sharp will happen within a couple of weeks.
Hands bound by tourists.

PS The minus is not mine.

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Polite Elk

Hands bound by tourists.

This is the most important thing, and that the tourists themselves do not climb there anymore, due to their misunderstanding.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Max_Bauder

Quote: Polite Elk

Hands bound by tourists.

This is the most important thing, and that the tourists themselves do not climb there anymore, due to their misunderstanding.

I think that they will no longer climb. (in the near future) But at the moment we have what we have. But you can’t risk people.

[yugan]

Yes, more than once the topic of bringing Russian troops to the outskirts was already discussed. Nehru there our soldiers do. They (Okraintsy) had 23 years to think. Those who wanted to live in Russia have long been living with us. And the main interest in this gang formation, which dill is called the state, is to prevent a slide into NATO.

[aleks 62 next]

..... Hands bound by tourists ....

... The rescue of the drowning is the work of the drowning ... Who drove them there ???? .... The operation is underway for two months, and they are like little children ... to warm up ... sometimes to work (so-called tourists) ..... I remember after the Sinai terrorist attack an interview with one "tourist" ..... She is poor already in tears that she will not be able to steam her ass in Egypt now ..... Such here are the "tourists" ....

[Polite Moose]

Quote: aleks 62 next

... The rescue of the drowning is the work of the drowning ... Who drove them there ???? .... The operation is underway for two months, and they are like little children ... to warm up ... sometimes to work (so-called tourists) ..... I remember after the Sinai terrorist attack an interview with one "tourist" ..... She is poor already in tears that she will not be able to steam her ass in Egypt now ..... Such here are the "tourists" ....

Dear Lee. Your words would be fair if our tourists rushed to Turkey after the aggravation of relations. Then I would agree with you completely that they are de-bi-ly. But they became hostages of the situation. People came to rest, and here you are. Almost a war. What are they to blame? I am sure that all tour operators responded to the concerns of people buying tickets about the peace of mind in the region "Everything is calm, calm, calm in Baghdad (Istanbul)" And, by and large, it was so. Nobody closed the Turkish direction. Didn't even hint at problems. Erdogan was our dumb sidekick and economic ally.
Well, answer the question: what would you personally do if your relatives or friends were currently resting in Turkey?
I absolutely agree with you about the intelligence of some of our tourists. Except "Dom-2" they watch nothing. But they are also our citizens. And as hostages, very much even nothing.

[aleks 62 next]

.... I am sure that all tour operators responded to the concerns of people buying tickets about the peace of mind in the region "Everything is calm, calm, calm in Baghdad (Istanbul)"

..... Tour operators see only grandmas .... Many grandmas .... This is their main goal and work .... The rest is purple to them ...

... Well, answer the question: what would you personally do if your relatives or friends were currently resting in Turkey? ...

.... Excluded .... I prefer to rest at home (in my own country), .... She is so big and beautiful .... Rest is not good .. we’ve been hovering and eating vodka .... Even while living for several decades in the Crimea has not traveled to many beautiful places (not enough time) ... Regarding the rest abroad, I repent, I am guilty .... I want to go only to Cuba .... But alas ... So far, dreams ... .

[Polite Moose]

Quote: aleks 62 next

.... Excluded .... I prefer to rest at home (in my own country), .... She is so big and beautiful .... Rest is not good .. we’ve been hovering and eating vodka .... Even while living for several decades in the Crimea has not traveled many beautiful places

Lee! You are lucky with the region of residence. They did not offend me either by the sea or the sun. And what about the inhabitants of the Urals, Siberia, the Far North, etc.? For health and for children we need South, sea, sun, fruits. Where do they go? Is it on the Barents Sea? An elementary rough calculation of the cost of holidays in the Crimea or Krasnodar Territory versus Egypt, Turkey or Thailand leaves no doubt about the choice. Not to mention the level of service. Comparison is far from in our favor.
As for the attitude towards tour operators, we agree with you. And therefore, I still can’t understand what is the fault of our tourists who may suffer from the hasty start of hostilities? Such a trump card as hostages, the Turks would not have let go of their hands. Well, again, our money in Turkey is a wagon and a small cart. In case of aggression, we lose everything.
First we whitewash the ceiling, then we paint the floor. Something like this.
Lee!

[aleks 62 next]

... or Thailand leaves no doubt about the choice ...

... You yourself answered the question .... I can add the resorts of South Korea and China for the residents of the Urals and Siberia .... Relatives living in the Far East and do not want to hear about Turkey and Egypt ... As they say, the vast majority there and drive .... Cheaper, more cheerful and the service is on top ... Yes, and more interesting .... In my opinion, there are fruits everywhere .... Even in Chukotka ... .... This is not critical ....

... I still can’t understand what is the fault of our tourists who may suffer from the hasty start of hostilities? ...

.... There (very close by) for 4 years now ACTIVE databases have been maintained .... It would be better if we went to Israel .... There, by the way, it is interesting ....

.... Well, I repeat that our money in Turkey is a wagon and a small cart. In case of aggression, we lose everything ....

... Today we lose - tomorrow we will get more .... You can’t measure everything with money ....

[Finches]

Alexander!

You are all right, it seems to be writing, but too far we go far in our peace! Planes are blown up, shot down, people are bombed, and we all make angry statements ... This is not the right way! It seems to me! And the West itself will never recognize 100% rightness of Russia - this is from the realm of fiction, and there is one way to convince the West of our rightness - power! Here another question arises, are we ready?

R.S. Plus my

[Polite Moose]

[quote = Zyablitsev] Alexander!

You are all right, it seems to be writing, but too far we go far in our peace! Planes are blown up, shot down, people are bombed, and we all make angry statements ... This is not the right way! It seems to me! And the West itself will never recognize 100% rightness of Russia - this is from the realm of fiction, and there is one way to convince the West of our rightness - power! Here another question arises, are we ready?

Evgeny! If you only knew how I share your resentment with our sluggish answers to p-s. But you must admit that we were taken aback by the ass everywhere. In vain. In the rat. Especially offensive for the SU-24. There should not have been this loss. Should not.
I have no doubts about our readiness for a tough answer. The words from the highest tribune were spoken very loudly: "Turkey is a country supporting IS." Such phrases are not thrown just like that. Anyone and anything can say about VVP, that he leaked everything, sold everything, that he is afraid, etc. but show me a man on the Russian (and not only) political Olympus, who would have eggs really steel, and not painted with silver.
Well, specifically on readiness: not a single partisan detachment, not a single military unit can successfully fight the enemy, having on hand a burden in the form of family members and other civilians, which at the moment are our tourists in Turkey. That's when we transport them to the "mainland", then we'll talk.
Although, to be honest, I do not have 100% confidence that we will go to a specific aggravation of the situation. Time will tell.
Eugene

[Good me]

Quote: Finches

That would bring troops to Kiev a year ago and hang the junta like a pin .. Hussein, now not only Erdogan would not squeak! And so .... Though, according to the rules of military science, bombers and turntables of evacuation without military guard do not let go!

Yes, the whole point is that our homegrown five-clone "analytes" screeched with bulging eyes: "This is the THIRD WORLD, Americans, NATO, for Ukraine, on us, BOMB, THE NUCLEUS WILL BE DROPPED! NIZ-ZYA !!!"

So we are reaping the benefits.

And the reaction of Washington, and NATO, showed their restrained, drawn-in head reaction to our conflict with a NATO member, UNTIL, on our part, ANSWERING.

In the case of Ukraine, generally NOT a member of NATO, the reaction would have been even more cowardly ...

[diver1977]

I read the headline, I had already eyebrows on the back of my head crawled out of surprise! Here is the same tv.a.r.i.
What a cynicism!

[RBLip]

Quote: diver1977

I read the headline, I had already eyebrows on the back of my head crawled out of surprise! Here is the same tv.a.r.i.

well yes. all the words which are admins of VO will not miss ...

[guzik007]

Now everyone knows who the point played the first. Jackal you, Vertuhan-properdogan.

[meriem1]

Quote: diver1977

I read the headline, I had already eyebrows on the back of my head crawled out of surprise! Here is the same tv.a.r.i.
What a cynicism!

In this way. The owner slipped the idea and merged !!! And what to do ???? Only the riddle about the brand pops up !!!! To stroke the front, lick the back! Where were they at least yesterday ?????????????????????????? ??? And now let us be called the ones they want !!! Showed the will ??? Nah. It was pvfos and pride. The smile of the Turkish Prime Minister is indicative !!!! WET !!!!

[Garis]

I already wrote about this. Erdogash, as he understood what he had done, began to spoil liquid in the corners. And after Putin’s speech, it’s completely for himself ... The very moment to offer Russian friendship ...

[SergGrey318]

Does anyone want to work with them?
The enemy is defeated
A mean traitor
He played his last gambit.
Silent crescent
And after the departing train
He looks sadly.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

At the G20 summit, Obama approved the plan of Erdogan to destroy the plane of the Russian Federation

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, before deciding to destroy a Russian aircraft on the border with Syria, enlisted the support of his American counterpart Barack Obama on this issue. This is reported immediately by a number of Arab media, citing information from a source in the Turkish presidential administration.

As noted, this happened during the recent GXNUMX Summit in Antalya. Erdogan during a personal meeting with Obama asked him for permission to strike on a Russian plane. According to media reports, Obama answered with an affirmative nod.

- It is obvious that the Turkish leader suffers from severe insomnia caused by the actions of the Russian air forces in Syria, which destroy the oil infrastructure of ISIS. And there is no secret that Turkey is the main importer of smuggled oil at low prices from territories controlled by ISIS *, - the publication Mepanorama notes.

- Sources close to the Turkish president’s administration cite Erdogan, who, at a meeting with Obama, suggested that he bring down a Russian plane to warn Russia. After thinking for a minute, Obama nodded, the publication says.

LifeNews TV Channel

[atalef]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Sources close to the Turkish president’s administration cite Erdogan, who, at a meeting with Obama, suggested he bring down a Russian plane to warn Russia. After thinking for a minute, Obama nodded, the publication says.

Hi Andrew, I like these stuffing.
may dob Erlogan and asked. Barak got a nervous tick from this. and Erdogan, as a cheburashka, jumped for joy. - deciding. that I received the go-ahead.
How is it about these Lavrov said? .........
Erdogan and Davutoglu are the tandem of the pan-Turkists and these sheep drivers again try to make themselves up with a miserable likeness of Ataturk's left hand.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: atalef

How did Lavrov say about such things? ..

hi san according to LifeNews, and it doesn’t!

"tandem of pan-Turkists"

-On the site it is forbidden to express yourself!

[fyvaprold]

Quote: atalef

rdogan with Davutoglu is a tandem of pan-Turkists and these sheep drivers again try to make themselves up with a miserable likeness of Ataturk's left hand.

And you have tender feelings for the Turks.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: atalef

may dob Erlogan and asked. Barak got a nervous tick from this. and Erdogan, as a cheburashka, jumped for joy. - deciding. that I received the go-ahead.

Healthy anti-Semite It’s like with Hussein, who asked the United States for the conquest of Kuwait or Qatar, even as I forgot how Bush seized there in 1991
In short, Hussein asked, the USA did not answer the moronic question, Hussein thought that they had allowed and started

[BARKHAN]

What surprisingly attentive people ... And Erdogan and Poroshenko ... Or another attempt to sit under the wing of a goddess. But will Obama smear the jackal, that’s the question? as a sacrificial chicken this Turk can become a means of conditional reconciliation of interested parties. Although Obama himself is already one foot in history ...
Dear atalef, please tell us what is the attitude of Israel towards the Kurds?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Barkhan

Dear atalef, please tell us what is the attitude of Israel towards the Kurds?

basically allied relations ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

skirts ... that's what came across:

[atalef]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

skirts ... that's what came across:

Turks. b ... b, they themselves screwed up and immediately run to NATO - save from the Russian bear or bring down the United States.
After all, we are such fuckers - they kind of nodded to us, and we, like sheep, did it - but everyone around is to blame, except for us peaceful sheep.
sheep.- b ... b

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Sasha! do not make your nerves!

[cniza]

Quote: subbtin.725

Late to drink Borjomi ...

They did it first, and then they started thinking? ... late. Apparently "business" we are destroying, but answer in full.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: subbtin.725

Late to drink Borjomi ..

From what? Turkey, within the framework of military cooperation, can provide its Air Force as air targets for training our air defense forces, and ground infrastructure ... In general, cooperation can be very fruitful.
PS: I beg your pardon for my French, but it seems to me alone that the Ottomans "caught not frail treason" and are trying to save the ass from flogging? Eastern countries, including Turkey, have always lived according to the principle: "A strong hand - a kiss, a weak - compartments!". Therefore, it is impossible to let anything down on the brakes, they will sit on the neck and then blood will be shed a hundred times more. IMHO.

[Dreiko11]

I agree, Turkey is not a shitty employee ... history shows this ... and the last provocation proved ..

[Al_oriso]

Of course, they are ready.
The impression is that they again ask us for permission to continue bombing the Kurds and our next planes approaching the border.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Late Erdogan, late ... Most Russians now think of your image .. (and we have a short conversation with such people ..) Hang yourself!

Turkey will answer for the Caucasus ...

[vell.65]

Quote: subbtin.725

Late to drink Borjomi ..

First, we are waiting for an apology and explanations at the highest level, after that there will probably be some kind of conversation !!!

[amirbek]

Quote: vell.65

The military attache of the Russian Embassy in the Republic of Turkey was called to the General Staff of the Turkish Armed Forces

in this situation, the so-called "general staff of turkey" should have blown up and come to the military attaché at the Russian embassy and apologize

[Polite Moose]

in this situation, the so-called "Turkish General Staff" should have blown up and come to the military attaché at the Russian embassy and apologize [/ quote]

If it does not bother you, please specify what meaning do you mean by the word "blow up"?
Did I understand you correctly?

[Max_Bauder]

They can’t shake hands! Ugh!

[222222]

"" Turkey has declared that it is ready for any military cooperation with Russia. "
... --- ... I DO NOT BELIEVE!! ... --- ...

[RUS96]

........................

[aleks 62 next]

..... Late to drink Borjomi ...

.... I agree ... There is no cooperation .... Only a completely no-fly zone over Turkey .... At least from 100 km from the border towards Turkey .... Jackals stirred ...

[Zmei]

Dear radio "VO". We ask you to stage for our friend, Comrade Herdogan, the song of the DDT group "Last Autumn". Thank you in advance, with respect to VKS Vossii.

[rubikon 07]

Class !!!)))))))

[marlin1203]

"Come out to fight one on one. We will not beat you on takeoff. Maestro."

[papas-57]

"Turkey has stated that it is ready for any military cooperation with Russia." Attach the Turkish Air Force with flying targets during Russian air defense exercises with live firing.

[hartlend]

Belated reaction. The process is already running.

[subbtin.725]

Looks nigger commanded kerf back.

[Werterex]

China's reaction. Gazeta Zhemingzhebao. Free translation. "... to shoot down a Russian plane was, of course, a tragic mistake on the part of Turkey. America and NATO are a great force. But we are for the Russians ....

[Humpty]

Quote: Werterex

Reaction of China. Newspaper Zhemingzhebao. Free translation. "... to shoot down a Russian plane was, of course, a tragic mistake on the part of Turkey.

China is generally calm about minor violations of its country's airspace by its northern neighbors. Occasionally they will write a note, they say you need to be careful, be careful.

[Per se.]

Quote: Humpty

China is generally calm about minor violations of its country's airspace by its northern neighbors.

So far, in general, China has pretty well squeezed the territories from us in its favor.

The decision to transfer the islands on the Amur to China was negatively met by a number of public organizations and opposition parties of the Khabarovsk Territory. In particular, the deputies of the Khabarovsk Duma insisted on the extreme importance of the fortified area located on the Big Ussuri Island, designed to contain the onslaught in the event of aggression from China. In addition, the takeoff path of the combat aircraft of the Air Force and Air Defense lies over the island of Tarabarov. The residents of Khabarovsk were extremely unhappy in the 2004 year with the prospect of transferring the islands. Sharp statements were made by representatives of public and political associations.

With the transfer of the islands, we not only lost an important fortified area covering Khabarovsk, but also got problems for our aircraft to take off. The withdrawal of our troops 200 km to the north (for the Chinese to the south), in fact, into the wilderness, is also a "genius" achievement of our diplomacy.

[Russiamoy]

and there is. all our trouble is (by the way, we blame the Ukrainians for this) that we live by the principle of my hut from the edge. our people are very apolitical. so sit chatting and no more. but if there was a serious public outcry. You haven’t even listed everything, and there is a 50 year lease there.

[Lelek]

Quote: subbtin.725

Looks nigger commanded kerf back.

Nope. For the sake of appearance, Blackland dissociated herself from the actions of her "partner", but in fact took him under her protection and is observing our reaction. If we "mumble" this event, then the blackest pat on the head of Recep and say: "Well, you see, everything turned out as planned. Keep up the good work, Uncle Sam will cover you."

[Patriot 1]

Now they are afraid to rise in the air. Understand the consequences. But there is no more faith in them, but it wasn’t especially when. And why did you sing? Fuck them now and not the destruction of the Kurds from the air.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Patriot 1

Understand the consequences.

[Magic archer]

And let us beat down the heels of the aircraft from the Turks, bomb a couple of military bases, drown a couple of ships, and then call and agree to military cooperation? !!!

[Sirocco]

Quote: Magic Archer

And let us beat down the heels of the aircraft from the Turks, bomb a couple of military bases, drown a couple of ships, and then call and agree to military cooperation? !!!

This is precisely what they expected from us, but it did not work out.
Now in the morning, with a fresh mind, you know where they wanted to drag us in, there is Ukraine, then Turkey. Horror takes, as someone wants to plow a ball, does not sit exactly on the pope.

[Kaiten]

Quote: Sirocco

Now in the morning, with a fresh mind, you know where they wanted to drag us in, there is Ukraine, then Turkey. Horror takes, as someone wants to plow a ball, does not sit exactly on the pope.

Your logic is strange. You do not realize that you are already embroiled in a very serious conflict. I don't want to offend the Russians. But the fact that you did not give any retaliatory measures, but limited yourself to words does not characterize Putin from the best side. It was necessary at least to throw a stone into Turkey (this is figuratively, it was necessary at least to bomb their escort radar). Our press quotes Turkish: "It's time for the Russians to stop hysteria." It's a shame for you.

[maiman61]

And we are so offended! The guy from Leningradka probably joked when he said that if a fight is planned, then you have to beat first!

[Robinzone]

Exactly firstAnd not secondas suggested ...

The further I become more and more convinced: "The darkest one is the grandmaster on a slow descent from the hill"

[Patriot 1]

Quote: Kaiten

Quote: Sirocco

Now in the morning, with a fresh mind, you know where they wanted to drag us in, there is Ukraine, then Turkey. Horror takes, as someone wants to plow a ball, does not sit exactly on the pope.

Your logic is strange. You do not realize that you are already embroiled in a very serious conflict. I don't want to offend the Russians. But the fact that you did not give any retaliatory measures, but limited yourself to words does not characterize Putin from the best side. It was necessary at least to throw a stone into Turkey (this is figuratively, it was necessary at least to bomb their escort radar). Our press quotes Turkish: "It's time for the Russians to stop hysteria." It's a shame for you.

In some ways, you are right .... Israel does so, BUT not with regard to military blocs. That is the whole difference. Understand that the NATO-Russia conflict will destroy the Earth. No one will be saved. Even the bunkers in this situation only delay the death.

[Xocelolprox]

If you turn off first all the time, then he will destroy only Russia. The Jew is right, he had to answer, but now all that remains is to puff out his cheeks and build a good face with a bad game.

[Kaiten]

Quote: Patriot 1

In some ways, you are right .... Israel does so, BUT not with regard to military blocs. That is the whole difference. Understand that the NATO-Russia conflict will destroy the Earth. No one will be saved. Even the bunkers in this situation only delay the death.

Yes, there would be no conflict NATO-Russia. NATO would not have stood up for the Turks at all. Maximum Turks would have recalled their ambassador. So they will recall him soon. We already went through all this when there was an incident with the flotilla. Chap. the Turks threatened us with raids, we began to secretly train, we began to negotiate with the Greeks. But everything turned out to be in vain. Erdogan turned, scaredly turned his eyes to the public and calmed down, forgot about Israel.

[starhina01]

Quote: Kaiten

I should have thrown a stone in Turkey

we can’t throw pebbles at us.
so from all sides they are trying to draw into the war.
and so we are giving atat.

[Kaiten]

Quote: starhina01

we can’t throw pebbles at us.
so from all sides they are trying to draw into the war.
and so we are giving atat.

Yes, you have long been in the war, if you do not understand. It’s just that they haven’t officially announced this yet on the radio.

[twviewer]

Quote: Kaiten

it was necessary to bomb their escort radar at least)

nakoy? they insidiously killed 2 boys to us, and we to them a piece of iron ?? the Russians already know how to beat a Turk, let them mock while they are conscious.

[Kaiten]

Quote: twviewer

nakoy? they insidiously killed 2 boys to us, and we to them a piece of iron ?? the Russians already know how to beat a Turk, let them mock while they are conscious.

This piece of iron is of strategic importance to you, or you think that the F-16 just flew in that area without a tip. Secondly, you probably didn’t see the radar, there are always attendants there. Thirdly, such an action serves as a demonstration of the technical development of the armed forces and discourages contact with them in the future for a long time.

[Robinzone]

"They carry water to the offended" (c)

I know that Israel does not let neighboring states get off the ground for manifesting aggression against it. But ... as it was rightly noted here, there is a "small" difference between those whom Israel is spreading rot for by military means, and those whom you propose to spread rot to Russia with such military means.

In case you haven't noticed, the situation before and after the border incident has changed quite a bit. Now NOBODY blathers about the installation of S-400 complexes in Syria, it is difficult for Turks and other "common people" to talk about "peaceful Syrian Turkmens" from Turkey, the "safe zone" on the Syrian-Turkish border will be reformatted to understand the security of Putin and Assad , and not Erdogan and Obama (and this gives a quiet rear for the Turkish Kurds from the PKK) and other things that were previously difficult to pull off.

And for this, everything offends you - I don’t.

Yes and more. If the IDF has a desire to bomb a thread in Syria, then he will need to think more than once, but seven times.

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: Kaiten

But, the fact that you did not give any retaliatory measures, and limited yourself only to words, does not characterize Putin from the best side.

Dude, chill out. Our tourists are there, Putin will not risk their lives. We’ll get everyone out, then there will be a kneading such that the chips will fly in all directions, do not hesitate.

[Kaiten]

Quote: Max_Bauder

Dude, chill out. Our tourists are there, Putin will not risk their lives. We’ll get everyone out, then there will be a kneading such that the chips will fly in all directions, do not hesitate.

There are no fewer Turks in Russia. In any case, there will be no problems with tourists. The Turks will simply rotate and recall the ambassador. They always do that.

[Garis]

And here you are wrong. Revenge is a cold dish. Wait a bit, it will cool, they will serve ...

[Kaiten]

Quote: RobinZone

"They carry water to the offended" (c)

I know that Israel does not let neighboring states get off the ground for manifesting aggression against it. But ... as it was rightly noted here, there is a "small" difference between those whom Israel is spreading rot for by military means, and those whom you propose to spread rot to Russia with such military means.

In case you haven't noticed, the situation before and after the border incident has changed quite a bit. Now NOBODY blathers about the installation of S-400 complexes in Syria, it is difficult for Turks and other "common people" to talk about "peaceful Syrian Turkmens" from Turkey, the "safe zone" on the Syrian-Turkish border will be reformatted to understand the security of Putin and Assad , and not Erdogan and Obama (and this gives a quiet rear for the Turkish Kurds from the PKK) and other things that were previously difficult to pull off.

And for this, everything offends you - I don’t.

Yes and more. If the IDF has a desire to bomb a thread in Syria, then he will need to think more than once, but seven times.

Israel is spreading rot by military means of those zheturok (remember the "flotilla of peace", also a Turkish provocation). And nothing is still alive and Turkey has not eaten it, but on the contrary, shut up and does not shine. Russia, on the other hand, has three orders of magnitude more power, you have the right of veto in the UN, no one will dare to condemn you, unlike what usually happens to us at the UN.
Regarding the fact that Israel is bombing in Syria, you are well aware that this was done in 2 cases:
1. Shelling of Israeli territory
2. The transfer of weapons to Hezbollah.
Regarding Israeli capabilities, remember that when the Syrian nuclear reactor was bombed in 2007, our planes came from Turkey without asking for their permission. The Turks already post factum discovered that Israeli cans (aircraft hanging tanks) fell on their territory. Radars, like the Syrian ones, did not find anything. So I advise you to consider these facts.

[Robinzone]

Ahem, "tezheturki" will not work, because some kind of NPO with weapons and mercenaries, especially in the sea ... And poorly zaherach in some Turkish city, which is the house of one of the members of the NPO and smash it with aircraft?

And the exploits of 2007 are unlikely to be repeated at the moment. Although ... once you succeed, but then ... In short, it is better not to disappoint the GDP.

[Robinzone]

Ahem, "tezheturki" will not work, because some kind of NPO with weapons and mercenaries, especially in the sea ... And poorly zaherach in some Turkish city, which is the house of one of the members of the NPO and smash it with aircraft?

And the exploits of 2007 are unlikely to be repeated at the moment. Although ... once you succeed, but then ... In short, it is better not to disappoint the GDP.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Kaiten

Your logic is strange. You do not realize that you are already embroiled in a very serious conflict. I don't want to offend the Russians. But the fact that you did not give any retaliatory measures, but limited yourself to words does not characterize Putin from the best side. It was necessary at least to throw a stone into Turkey (this is figuratively, it was necessary at least to bomb their escort radar). Our press quotes Turkish: "It's time for the Russians to stop hysteria." It's a shame for you.

Abidna? Yes......
But what to do with the 10 thousand Russotourists who are currently in Turkey? This factor does not contribute in any way to the full use of the force component as a response.
Do you propose to strike back at the Turks and simultaneously carry out a large-scale military operation to rescue tourists?
The provocation was planned in order to impose on Russia the scenario of the beginning of a full-scale war.
The answer will be obligatory, but not the one that the "partners who have been screwed with the ISIL" are counting on.
Erdogan has been in the status of a candidate for a political corpse for two days already, and we will help to transfer him from a candidate into a real blind man.

[Kaiten]

Quote: Nyrobsky

The answer will be obligatory, but not the one that the "partners who have been screwed with the ISIL" are counting on.

Quote: Garis

And here you are wrong. Revenge is a cold dish. Wait a bit, it will cool, they will serve ...

The main thing is not to outsmart yourself. It seems to me that Putin will limit himself to a trifle such as several militant cars. And there will be nothing with tourists. If the Turks begin to detain them, then in Russia there are also several thousand Turkish citizens. In such cases, an exchange takes place using the Red Cross.

[Garis]

And yes, yes. And add that we are just indulging in goodies.

[Sirocco]

Turkey said it was ready for any military cooperation with Russia

Only after the official apology of Turkish President Erdogan.
And then, let's see.
I think now Erdogan. downed pilot. The big cross, both on it and in Turkey, is enough to shit once, you will wash for a long time.
So what was before the destruction of the SU-24, you will not return it.
Let them declare.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Sirocco

I think now Erdogan. downed pilot. The big cross, both on it and in Turkey, is enough to shit once, you will wash for a long time.

It’s you so early, you think he’ll just take it and retreat. He’s been four years dirty at the border, arming, treating, training terrorists and suddenly turning on the back one? No, he has a lot of strength and he can very well seek a confrontation under the pretext of protection, what kind of brothers are there on the territory of Syria. Everything is just beginning.

[Sirocco]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It’s you so early, you think he’ll just take it and step back

Well, I don’t doubt it, I don’t expect another, and didn’t expect it, only with Sushka it’s just a stab in the back, with a tight hug.
I think that he was shot down, in the long term, if what we announced about sanctions, and other "silence" from the GDP, comes true, then the next elections, if they take place, are no longer about him.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Sirocco

I think that he was shot down, in the future, if what we announced

I think Erdogan is not shy about trying to bring down another one.

Quote: Sirocco

the next election, if held, is no longer about him.

Not where he will not go, just not going to leave.

[Very old]

There is! Recep Erdogan has brothers in arms
On this account, even the Yankees jiving:

[Kibalchish]

Saudit is not enough

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It’s you so early, think he’ll just take it and step back

Erdogan will not back down.
This is the east - everything will be transferred to the field of slovo- logics, demagogy and the eastern bazaar.
at the same time, everything will continue as it was

Quote: Alexander Romanov

For four years has he been dirty at the border, arming, treating, training terrorists and suddenly turning on the back one?

Not . he will just start delivering opposition MANPADS and push PETRIOTS to the border

Quote: Alexander Romanov

No, he has not enough strength and he can very well seek a confrontation under the pretext of protection, which brothers are there on the territory of Syria. Everything is just beginning.

But that's for sure.
it's only the beginning.
Holland's visit will show a lot, if the visit does not work, then the result will be a lack of interaction in the Syrian air between NATO and the Russian Federation.
As a result, the S-400 will not play a role, since we again find ourselves in a situation where they can (now already in the Russian Federation) bring down a plane - but unidentified, and it could be anyone's and not necessarily Turkish.
I do not think . that the Russian Federation will be ready to raise the bar of confrontation to the extent that both sides begin to bring down each other's planes. to the delight of Assad and ISIS.
In fact, both sides are in rather unstable positions, but do not twist. the advantage is equally on the side of Turkey both in terms of capabilities and forces and the presence of land borders and control of the Bosphorus
(just don’t drag me into the club of Turkish lovers. We hate Erdogan more than Assad), but it’s like that, analysis.

[Al_oriso]

So far, nobody knows for sure what level the Russian Federation can reach. There are small precedents, for example, Georgia-Ossetia and Chechnya, and the Debaltsevsky Cauldron says something.
Do not wake a drowsy bear!

[Dikson]

Here is an example of Georgia that is very vivid and shows that our leadership is not completing its business to the end.
So it is here. I put a Turk with a device on this situation .. And we .. And we ... - we will wash the floor in the corridor with a Turkish flag! .. This is undoubtedly the most weighty answer .. С300, С400 .. but at least С600 - what are you like children ??! Well, the Turk will take tomorrow and throw the tanks directly at our airbase .. What will we do then? And, I know - we will expel the Turkish builders .. - you cannot answer under another - suddenly there is a war, and we are tired .. Wait, gentlemen, sunken boats and downed planes ... Russia can be kicked, - she is kind ... Sorry, boiled .. "At least one bomb ..." - and then Poroshenko shakes hands ... "Our partners" ... "unfriendly act" .. Where did they find friends ??! It remains for the Chinese to get kicked in the balls in Irkutsk and Buryatia for the full warmth of relations .. Like friends?

[kashtak]

Quote: atalef

to the delight of Assad and ISIS.

your attitude towards Assad is known. but it will not be he who benefits from the confrontation between Russia and Turkey, but the USA and ISIS. and everyone else is the loser. the provocation was obviously aimed at this.

[rubikon 07]

We now apologize to this Erdogan, like an umbrella to a fish !!!!!! It's like gouging out a person's eye and saying "I'm sorry" !!!!! I never believed this fake Turkey, it was not possible to believe them for a second !!! Vile, cynical and shameless government !!! Our pilot and marine, alas, cannot be returned ... ((((((Any fight has its own rules, and only insidious and mean people can hit in the back !!! They showed their mean face to the whole world, but to those who want All this is disgusting !!!!!!! Only through the Turkish border militants from everywhere, in particular, from the North Caucasus and Transcaucasia get there ... nourish, heal, support, feed, just to get their dirty interest !! ! Hands in their blood! Evil is not enough just !!

[kashtak]

ah maladtsa! ah well said! has Turkey been better so far? but it was Turkey that refused to participate in the isolation of Russia. one provocation and the CIA can put another notch on the butt. how much the US has been trying to achieve. with one blow they blocked the South Stream between Russia and Europe. and drove a wedge between neighboring countries. can you start a war with NATO right away? how many exclamation points. for the deceased, his comrades are already taking revenge by continuing to destroy the ISIS oil traffic. here is the best answer to the provocateurs whom you, willingly or unwillingly, support by demanding what they want. now the CIA will stupidly translate a selection of comments from this discussion into Turkish and give it to anyone. do you think the number of militants who passed the border will decrease from this? Have you decided to slide down to the "censor" level? undertook to comment on serious questions, please be patient.

[vjatsergey]

I recently read Peter 1’s statement: Do not trust the three - a woman, a Turk and a non-drinker, so ours should not be deceived by the Turks about interaction. Send them to the forest and do their job.

[vyinemeynen]

Let's "cooperate" a no-fly zone along the border with Syria from the side of Turkey for km. by 50, and C 400 will control!

[andj61]

Quote: vyinemeynen

Let's "cooperate" a no-fly zone along the border with Syria from the side of Turkey for km. by 50, and C 400 will control!

The S-400 alone will not completely cover the border, even taking into account the naval air defense. There, the mountainous terrain has certain closure zones, "shadow" zones, which are easily calculated by the Turkish side. Better to have a couple more complexes. In addition, the Turks have not been flying in Syria for a long time, and the Kurds were attacked from their territory. And now they will fly in the same way, with a reserve, guaranteed not to violate the borders of Syria and not substitute. But in Armenia they often break. And this year there was an incident when our MiG-29 "ousted" Turkish helicopters from Armenia. That's where you can catch it, but only in such a way that the debris does not fall in Turkey.

[Alexander Romanov]

I wanted to send Erdogan in plain text, but then I looked at him and realized that he was already everywhere.

[Strezhevchanin]

And since 1568, everyone is trying their bread for strength.

[Wild_grey_wolf]

Kapets, how it looks mean, most likely the allies hinted to Turkey. Your cant figure it out yourself, we can’t take your side, and that’s the readiness. . . cowardly so, it seems like Saakashvili’s act can they all have the same infection?

[rubikon 07]

maybe they all have the same infection? - that's for sure !!!!!!!!!!

[afdjhbn67]

It seems a bit late .. they have already opened the buy-in, they will probably fly with an eye now ..
If I knew a buy-in, I would live in Sochi .. and now we will rest in Sochi, and not in Antalya

[79807420129]

Quote: afdjhbn67

It seems a bit late .. they have already opened the buy-in, they will probably fly with an eye now ..

They now seem to generally not fly there

[Mikhail m]

With a fright for petrodollars, a plane was shot down, now with a fright for tourists dollars and trade they swear in cooperation. Freaks corrupt.
Good news. Russian aviation began to work on goals without taking into account the interests of Turkey. Turkish column destroyed in Aazaz. http://cassad.net/v-mire/blizhniy-vostok/20841-rossiya-unichtozhila-tureckiy-kon
voy-napravlennyy-boevikam-v-siriyu-erdogan-molchit.html

[Garis]

Barmaley in the first photo looks so plaintively at the sky, just a lamb ...

[theadenter]

No, thanks. Put your hypocritical proposal deeper into yourself.

[Rossmk]

Late, Perdogan, too late. One time he played the sultan (pocket sultan for the United States) and crossed out all successes in Russian-Turkish cooperation.

[WYCCTPUJIA]

It's too late to drink "Borjomi" when the kidneys have failed !!!

[iliitchitch]

What is super impudence? Shit under the door to the heavyweight, call and ask for a piece of paper.
Well stupid. What garbage, the plane was shot down, well, because we are partners, right? Here is a bastard, these muzzles only cause disgust.

[Dikson]

And we ate it and did not frown almost ... ((((

[Flinky]

Noticed shit. The navigator is alive and well - and this is a very important witness. Now get rid of horseradish. Between us is the blood of our pilot.

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Flinky

Noticed shit. The navigator is alive and well - and this is a very important witness. Now get rid of horseradish. Between us is the blood of our pilot.

It seems to me that the relatives of the deceased and the navigator, who survived by a miracle, should file lawsuits in international courts as part of the trolling of the Turks and draw attention to the problem, even if the stars pay their bills ..

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: Flinky

Between us is the blood of our pilot.

500 years of blood, just forgotten who we are dealing with.

[belroni]

“Don’t trust the three: don’t trust a woman, don’t trust a Turk, don’t trust a non-drinker.” (Peter I)

[Mihalich17]

"Who will believe you who lied once?"
No more "contacts" with these vile killers and criminals!
I am sure they will soon not be at all in Syria!
Did they start "crap"? It's good!!!
Approve, with !!!

[pvv113]

The Turks are already in trouble: the Russian Aerospace Forces razed the area where the Su-24 was shot down, and then bombed the Turkish "humanitarian convoy" for the militants

Today, the Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed the entire column of trucks loaded with militants, which arrived in the city the other day. In any other situation, the Turkish government and Erdogan personally would start to scream that Russia bombed trucks with humanitarian aid, but at the moment they cannot afford it.
Thus, Russia continues to destroy all facilities on the border with Turkey, completely and completely ignoring the interests of Turkey (previously observed). It can be stated that now neither Turkey will receive cheap oil, nor militants will be able to receive supplies normally, since any border crossing by Turkish cars will be suppressed by strikes of the Russian Aerospace Forces

http://actuallno.com/blog/43405877404/Rossiya-unichtozhila-turetskiy-konvoy,-nap
ravlennyiy-boevikam-v-?
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& pad = 1

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: pvv113

, and then bombed the Turkish "humanitarian convoy" for the militants

And I like it, it burns well.

[EvgNik]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

And I like it, it burns well.

I watched the video today - the Turks filmed as ours bombed the area where our pilot was shot. That's where the beauty is! At the beginning of the plot, they still said something, and then deathly silence. It’s a pity I didn’t take a link to it, but they will show it.

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: EvgNik

I watched the video today - the Turks filmed as ours bombed the area where our pilot was shot. That's where the beauty is! At the beginning of the plot, they still said something, and then deathly silence. It’s a pity I didn’t take a link to it, but they will show it.

It?

[pvv113]

Let them get warm

[Uncle lee]

It burns well! And the bearded man is sick!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Uncle Lee

And the bearded man is sick!

He doesn’t get sick, his truck is on fire. He is warm and good.

[Hyppopotut]

It was necessary to begin with this !!!

[drugg]

All the same, "it will be too little, not enough" (as in the cartoon). Here, the maximum destruction is 30%.

[rotmistr60]

The fact that the Turks are slowly practicing the reverse is noticeable. But at the same time, they are trying with all their might to preserve the "face" that they have completely lost, and in the face of Russia for a very long time.

[olimpiada15]

Now I understand what moderate opposition is.
Countries that decide to destroy Syria as a state grow terrorists in the area they are interested in, providing them with finances, weapons, and coordinating armed aggression against the government and citizens of Syria. Turkey uses border regions where citizens traditionally associated with the Turkish population live other ties. Control over the border is a guarantee of the success of Turkish aggression.
In the area where our plane was shot down, obviously, indignation went on, the bandits believed that they would fight without receiving an answer, but the bombing of the airborne forces violated their gracious condition. And the Turks, deciding to support their bandits morally, made a wide gesture-shot down the plane so that the bandits tore our pilots, thereby demonstrating their influence on the course of the campaign.
What is the answer to the statement of Turkey? Let’s launch one hundred of their planes and knock them back over the territory occupied by Isil - these creatures still who to kill, let them rejoice.
But seriously, it is necessary to expel the entire Turkish business from Russia, with the departure of the Turkish business, the communications of terrorists inside Russia and in BV will be broken.
One must put something obscene on the Turkish willingness to cooperate — there is nothing to expect from these pigs and shaitans: they have already invested in this profitable business of terrorism and they can’t be torn from this nipple, unless they make their own blood suck instead of oil, but this is not our method .

[rubikon 07]

I absolutely agree - it is shaitans !!! They are fundamentally contrary to the canons of Islam !!! Muslims do not behave like that !!!!!!

[atalef]

Quote: rubikon 07

I absolutely agree - it is shaitans !!! They are fundamentally contrary to the canons of Islam !!! Muslims do not behave like that !!!!!!

I want to understand a little bit - igil - Shaitans are not Muslims so behaving, Turks - Shaytans are not Muslims so behaving, the Taliban, Alkaida, Al Nusra, Boko Haram, etc. etc. including all these theocratic countries are all Shaitans - so Muslims don’t behave, but maybe you’re wrong? Muslims behave just like that, otherwise the minority of adequate people can (simply be called) a sect within Islam, just sing fairy tales for yourself - all these igilas, kaidai, akhhabism are Islam and nothing else

[rubikon 07]

Here I do not agree categorically !!! What is Islam calling for ?? To the world, good, to all good !!! And what these idiots are doing has nothing to do with Islam !! This is the greatest religion, you, as I understand it, build your idea of ​​this religion on these militants, shed blood - this is the deepest error !!! What they do is only to Satan !!!

[atalef]

Quote: rubikon 07

Here I do not agree categorically !!! What is Islam calling for ?? To the world, good, to all good !!!

Tolerance is a good thing. but learn the scripture

and I will repay each according to his deeds. {Matt. 16:27.}

Quote: rubikon 07

And what these idiots are doing has nothing to do with Islam !! it

as I understand it, you know.
But, something tells me that they are ready to argue with you, and in case of disagreement, cut off your head

Quote: rubikon 07

This is the greatest religion, you, as I understand it, build your idea of ​​this religion on these militants, shed blood

Yes, because calls for destruction, murder. intolerance - I hear not only from militants but also from thousands of imams.
Do you want to say that they do not understand Islam?

Quote: rubikon 07

What they do is only to Satan !!!

or do you just want to create a godly background and blur your eyes so that we don’t think so.
As one friend said
Not all Muslims are terrorists, but all Muslims are terrorists.

[atalef]

Quote: rubikon 07

And what do you think? I don’t know what kind of imams they are, and if they imams, if they distort and interpret the Holy Scripture in their own way - what are their names and what do they serve ??

Of course, you know Islam better than they do.
You know, Bibi Netanyahu (whom I generally don’t quite support) said the right thing
If a bird looks like a duck, flies like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck ---- it's probably a duck, not a parrot.
Think about it.
What Islam looks like and what are you trying to prove.

[rubikon 07]

Quote: atalef

Yes, because calls for destruction, murder. intolerance - I hear not only from militants but also from thousands of imams.
Do you want to say that they do not understand Islam?

- And what do you think? I don’t know what kind of imams they are, and if they imams, if they distort and interpret the Holy Scripture in their own way - what are their names and what do they serve ?? For you, for example: Each doctor took the Hippocratic oath - do you want to say that there are no killer doctors? Or that they are, is science to blame - medicine ???

[rubikon 07]

Quote: atalef

or do you just want to create a godly background and blur your eyes so that we don’t think so.

Why should I open or blur my eyes? What reason do you see in this? Maybe you’re an atheist at all, but I’m reasoning with you ... Think narrowly if you think that criminal criminals are Muslims, you need to be able to distinguish black from white !!!

[rubikon 07]

The meaning of the word Muslim is submissive to Allah, and not one of the religions calls for murders, wars, oppression of people, etc. What the criminals do is one thing, what does the religion of Islam have to do with it !!? I got the impression that you don’t know Muslims.

[atalef]

Quote: rubikon 07

The meaning of the word Muslim is submissive to Allah, and not one of the religions calls for murders, wars, oppression of people, etc.

ok, say this to the isis. more precisely, to hundreds of their hung heads and sold into slavery to women.
Damn, well, after all, what Muslim country do not dig - the same crap everywhere in a bad or very bad degree.
And they continue to pour oil into my ears

Quote: rubikon 07

What the criminals do is one thing, what does the religion of Islam have to do with it !!?

Do you live in an alternate universe?

Quote: rubikon 07

I got the impression that you don’t know Muslims.

Well, where can I see them.
They are far from me.

[rubikon 07]

It is precisely what you see in your reasoning. A pity .... You can’t blame religion for the actions of criminals.

[atalef]

Quote: rubikon 07

It is precisely what you see in your reasoning. A pity .... You can’t blame religion for the actions of criminals.

You're right. Islam is a peaceful religion, and the screams of ALLA I IN THE BAR - exploding, cutting heads and running with a donkey grin of freaks --- has nothing to do with it?
In your universe, an alternative of course.

[rubikon 07]

I understood one thing: I did not have to answer your attacks AT ALL !!! You know little and do not try to understand anything, imagining that you are omniscient !!! This is precisely the inalienable quality of these radical terrorists !!! In this you are strikingly identical !!! Learn to even write correctly, if you are not able to reason correctly !!!

[atalef]

Quote: rubikon 07

It is precisely what you see in your reasoning. A pity .... You can’t blame religion for the actions of criminals.

You're right. Islam is a peaceful religion, and the screams of ALLA I IN THE BAR - exploding, cutting heads and running with a donkey grin of freaks --- has nothing to do with it?
In your universe, an alternative of course.

[padded jacket]

Quote: atalef

stop singing tales to yourself -all these igil, kaydai ahhabism is Islam and nothing else

Yes, yes, and yes, for example, creators of the modernization of the USSR like Chubais, Gaidar, Abramovich, and so on, during which the country was plundered and its population decreased by millions of people - Jews.
It turns out that the "destruction" of my country is a planned conspiracy - of the Jews?

[Manul]

Quote: atalef

I want to understand a little bit - igil - Shaitans are not Muslims so behaving, Turks - Shaitans are not Muslims so behaving, Taliban, Alkaida, Al Nusra, Boko Haram, etc.

Distort. First, they called only one Muslim - the country - Turkey. And then you list terrorist organizations based on Islam. Propaganda of the war with the Muslim world?
And they have been so good lately.

[RomanN]

Turekia should be destroyed through Kurds and Armenians, economically crush-cut the double bass of jewelry (this is 5 percent in our country, maybe more), jam the supply of agricultural products and clothes. there to look at the new premiere.

[Zomanus]

Well, apparently, Edorgan realized that his West had thrown.
He made conclusions and went to give up, discuss the conditions of surrender.
He also does not understand that now the move is ours
and this move can bring him much more losses
than the closure of the Igilov oil trade.
And now we will set the conditions for further work.

[Per se.]

Quote: Zomanus

Well, apparently, Edorgan realized that his West had thrown.

It is very doubtful that the Turks, without the knowledge of the United States, would decide to shoot down our combat aircraft, according to all the rules of international law, an aircraft attack could amount to declaring war. It is very doubtful that the United States was not aware of the preparations of Turkey, Turkish fighter jets have been looking for a reason for the attack for many days, guarded. The fact that the Turks did not know whose plane they were shooting down was generally babbling during the daily and multiple, day and night sorties of our aviation, which carried out the bombing of terrorists near the Turkish border. The US is present nearby, everything is being tracked. It is hard to believe what happened, prepared and planned action, and what happened without the States there. The escalation of tension, right up to the armed conflict on the border with Turkey, is beneficial for the United States. Any option is essentially profitable for the Yankees, we will die off, we will lose face, there will be new provocations, we will take harsh measures, for example, we will kill a Turk that will fly to our planes, again the Anglo-Saxons will be blamed, Russia will be blamed for everything, recognized as an aggressor. We need an excuse, an occasion, to limit the passage through the Black Sea straits of our warships. Crimea and Donbass are here in one bundle, we didn’t solve our problems there, and they will come out, most likely, they will try to impose a war on two fronts, with the escalation of the conflict in Syria, and with the resumption of the war by Bandera in the Donbass, and, possibly, provocations near the border with Crimea. Nobody will just give us away for what everything was started by the West, both in Ukraine and in Syria, all these are links of one chain. Our bourgeois, most likely, will not want to lose revenue from Turkey itself, therefore, why not, after blowing up our cheeks, as with bringing our troops to the border with Ukraine, similar shy away, missed opportunities, half-hearted decisions will also begin in Turkey. The Turks pranked, now we need to grab them for one place with an iron grip and hold them dead, they not only have to apologize, much more can and should be demanded for such things, moreover, not only from dirty Turks, but also from their owners, the USA, which they signed arrangements.

[dchegrinec]

Yes, they just suddenly realized that they were fucked up to their ears and no one was going to protect them! Moreover, their attack has no benefit and prospects, except for continuous losses: economic, political, military and moral. In fact, they acted like drug addicts, only the consequences will haunt for years. And now we need to do something and not for us, but for them. and weak urges went, subscriptions so to speak. We will deal with these gray or bald "wolves", there is no doubt, and no one will return our dead guys.

[Letnab]

Now our diplomats will begin to squeeze a bonus out of the Turks ...

[Wedmak]

why didn’t they exchange information with Russia before striking a Russian bomber on a counterterrorism mission?

Scared. And they ran to the USA for instructions. Having received them, they have already begun to play this performance. Only here is the rush. Maybe politicians will agree, it’s their job, but ordinary people are gone.

[Vladimir71]

It’s too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have sat down ...

[aszzz888]

No flirting will make up for what the Turks did, led, without any doubt, with phishington.
And while on Earth and on the Planet there is VISUAL AMERICA, all conceivable and not conceivable provocations will occur!

There is only one conclusion: to remove the main evil.
200 cargo, meritosia!

[SAM 5]

Turkey stated that it is ready for any cooperation

A man fell from the 15th floor. He flies and thinks - everything is kirdyk, On the 10th floor he intercepts his hand and voice:
- Will you take it in your mouth?
-not
-Well, fly on.
-Now exactly kirdyk.
On the 8th floor there is again a hand and a voice:
- Well ... will you give?
-not
-Years on.
On the 5th, similarly. Man:
-I’ll take it in my mouth, and in ... I’ll give it.
Vote:
- I don’t drink with π doraces.

[Private Starley]

A man fell from the 10th floor, on the 5th, miraculously caught on the balcony, a day later the "miracle" swelled up and fell away ... (Erdogan m / y 9th and 6th floors ...)

[Masya masya]

Betrayer once, betray again! Late boy rushing about ...

[shultc]

Deceitful, corrupt u.bl. yudki! Even talking to freaks is not worth it! Turkey has no interests for us. What kind of "friends" are they: 18th century - 4 wars, 19th century - 4 wars. As they were snakes on the chest, they remained.

[kagorta]

So the funny thing is that we still ataturk warmed.
The first country to lend a helping hand to Turkey during the war of liberation was the Soviet Union. Frunze arrived in Ankara in 1921 as an ambassador to establish diplomatic relations, and Voroshilov served as military adviser in Turkey.
This is certainly not accidental. Indeed, just three days later (April 26, 1920) after the opening of the Turkish Grand National Assembly (BSTN), Mustafa Kemal, on behalf of the formed government, sent an official letter to the Russian government containing a request to establish diplomatic relations and to assist Turkey. According to official data, in addition to 10 million gold rubles transferred to the representatives of the All-Russian People's Congress, to Turkey via Novorossiysk, Tuapse and Batumi during 1920-1922 39 thousand rifles, 327 machine guns, 54 guns, 63 million cartridges, 147 thousand shells were delivered. The Soviet government also helped with the construction of two powder factories, while simultaneously supplying equipment for a cartridge factory and raw materials for the production of cartridges in Turkey. And Semen Ivanovich Aralov, known as the creator of the GRU, was in 1922-1923. Plenipotentiary of Soviet Russia in Turkey.
Not just the military. but the cultural contacts between Soviet Russia and Turkey in the 20s and early 30s simply went wild. For example, in the 20s, the Russian national football team traveled to Turkey only.

[DMB3000]

Quote: Humpty

Quote: Werterex

Reaction of China. Newspaper Zhemingzhebao. Free translation. "... to shoot down a Russian plane was, of course, a tragic mistake on the part of Turkey.

China is generally calm about minor violations of its country's airspace by its northern neighbors. Occasionally they will write a note, they say you need to be careful, be careful.

legends have been circulating about the Chinese for a long time. The last Chinese warning is in their part. but still need a statement by the official leadership. even the Chinese themselves don’t read what they write in provincial newspapers.

[Baloo]

We will be ready when we clean the border territory in sufficient space and block the flows of ISIS and other gang terrorists in both directions. The main conditions are the extradition of Russian citizens accused of terrorist attacks on the territory of the Russian Federation and the conduct of hostilities on the territory of Chechnya; the cessation of financing and supply of ISIS and other terrorists by Turkey.

[rubikon 07]

You say the truth!!! Let it be so!!!

[Noncombatant]

Quote: diver1977

I read the headline, I had already eyebrows on the back of my head crawled out of surprise! Here is the same tv.a.r.i.
What a cynicism!

Leave them there. (Eyebrows. On the back of the head.)

[NC1982]

They have prepared the information they need (read: a bunch of lies) and are now ready to exchange information. Cunning ducks ..

[Bigship]

10 minutes of truth about Turkey from S.A. Bagdasarova. Video 5 years ago !!!

[Dreiko11]

well done Baghdasarov, respect !!!

[kill the fascist]

well done Baghdasarov.

[rubikon 07]

Respect to Baghdasarov !!!!

[VD chauvinist]

Armed with horsemen, cornets, competitions, etc. Turkish Kurds, launch a wide campaign in the media to condemn the Armenian Genocide, strengthen the air base in Armenia, and KEAT reptiles with the slightest violation of airspace both there and in Syria. Here is such a protruding middle finger to the Janissaries. Erdogan is a vulgar idiot. There, the main bastard is Davutoglu, a pan-Turkist of horseradish. Once he said that our Kemerovo is a Turkish city. And in general, to Altai - a continuous turretchina. Ah, Stalin ... They had to be finished off in 45-46 years ...

[Zefr]

I have a question for the Kurds. For example, I’m not at all sure that the Kurdish Republic will not suddenly find itself clogged with terrorists with weapons. They are fighting so much that they cannot do anything else.

[yuliatreb]

A new chess game is being played. Erdogan, at least, is not far-sighted in deciding to bring down a Russian bomber. We all understand individually to make such a decision, by no means possible, especially in a very short period of time. So, someone has a plan in their head, I wonder who it is and who Erdoогan is on the chessboard.

[sledge]

What cooperation? Shoot down Russian planes? Bitches are lying !!!!! What has become scary? Nashkody and do not know how to make excuses?

[ARES623]

This is the case when the military is running ahead of the politicians. Cooperation can only be discussed after an official apology and compensation (both to the country and to the families of the dead and wounded). In general, this incident somehow plays into the hands of the Americans. After what happened, only science fiction writers can talk about Turkish Stream. Gazprom has only a promising joint venture-2 in the western direction. Accordingly, we must wait for a pod from the United States on this vector. The Turks shot down our plane not without the involvement of the CIA. Perhaps even Obama is not aware of all the intricacies of the operation. There are no specific data, but somehow it all happened in their interests.

[cormorant]

They talk about cooperation and bring 20 tanks to the Syrian border. Then, what a show of strength with 18 fighters along the border. Turkomans started something and are definitely not going to apologize.

[Rus_lan]

Oh start changing shoes

[ia-ai00]

If Russia DOES NOT send them to the dark forest ... - NO RESPECT TO MYSELF ...
Turkey showed its TRUE face, Turkey - enemy Russia, it is necessary to REMEMBER forever and ever, and such LAPTOP, forgiveness is NOT!

[Zumich]

Do not decorate gangrene, the stink is coming.
Ukraine, Turkey, who is next?
Enough nanny with everyone !, there are our economic levers, they SHOULD be crushed, crushed like fleas!
During the siege of Leningrad, we had fattening marauders, but they were hiding in the crevices, and now a bunch of corrupt news is whining and howling, stealing, and hindering the economy.
Reduce tax rates, "hiding" will become unnecessary, the treasury is people, the grayness of the shadow will go away, everything is white and sunny.
We are the strongest country, we believe Putin, we can withstand everything, but from hunger they themselves are faster with .... t

[Neophyte]

Ottoman mentality! That's just, the Russian oligarchy, will continue "fraternal" ties,
and not only them?

[armourer]

Let the pilots be resurrected first

[EvgNik]

Quote: yuliatreb

Erdogan, at least not far-sighted, deciding to shoot down a Russian bomber

Quote: yuliatreb

who is Erdogan on a chessboard

Firstly: it’s stupid like a cork, or your eyes are angry.
Secondly: a pawn, and not a passage, but which is felled first.

[Vladimir-1]

This is the enemy. Cold-blooded and prudent. Weighing the pros and cons. Behind which there are other enemies. Yes, I absolutely agree that comes from malice and bile. Now it will dodge like a yule, the owners have already given guarantees to him most likely that they say we will support and do not abandon it. He knows all this well. The whole alignment of the parties was thought out and calculated several steps forward.

[polkovnik manuch]

Everything said by the Turks is nothing more than another oriental trick. Enough of Russia to wipe itself off when they spit on its interests! I believe that GDP in Syria is doing everything right. Bombing needs to be escalated, and especially along the Assad-uncontrolled border. To intensify work on the Kurdish issue, it’s time for people to have their own state in a place of compact residence (after all, more than 50 million!). You can and should have a rest in Sochi, recently including Krasnaya Polyana. I support those who talk about stopping the construction of nuclear power plants, deliveries of agricultural products and consumer goods. And the Turks will not close the straits, there are many ways to cool their ardor ....

[rubikon 07]

I liked how in Solovyov's program, Karen Shakhnazarov said: "If this had happened in Soviet times, ours would have taken off and bombed this entire base from which this F-16 rose, and no one would have sounded back !!!" Today would be so !!! Why not ???

[Zumich]

Quote: yuliatreb

A new chess game is being played. Erdogan, at least, is not far-sighted in deciding to bring down a Russian bomber. We all understand individually to make such a decision, by no means possible, especially in a very short period of time. So, someone has a plan in their head, I wonder who it is and who Erdoогan is on the chessboard.

very similar to eastern roots,

[ivan bogomolov]

We have yet another bitter lesson, we have never had and never had brothers, friends, only envious and hidden accomplices ready to betray at any moment. Our main task is to have our own countermeasures on this score, especially with China and other "friends". ERDOGADU no forgiveness, bastard ...