Country of nuclear radicals

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Pakistan may be the biggest problem of our time

In addition to the everyday problems that Pakistan poses for India as its eternal rival for the world media, a unique combination of features characteristic of this country is essential: the nuclear status and the spread of radical Islamism openly challenging the military leadership and government of Pakistan.

In Russia, little is written about Pakistan, although de facto we have a common border. More precisely, the transparent borders of Afghanistan with post-Soviet Central Asia (except Uzbekistan) and Pakistan, together with the visa-free regime of the Russian Federation with the countries of the region, mean that our neighborhood is a reality. Islamabad is increasingly taking control of the processes taking place in Afghanistan, which, among other things, means that Islamist groups that have recently been interested in him as temporary allies in competition with the United States on Afghan territory have become a hindrance to the Pashtuns they supervise.

This article discusses the key aspects of the life of modern Pakistan on the basis of materials by experts of the Institute of the Middle East, N. A. Zamaraeva, D. A. Karpov, A. V. Lipeeva, I. N. Serenko, V. I. Sotnikova.

Radical education


One of the major security threats in Pakistan is terrorism. According to the Global Terrorism Index, since 2004, this country has not fallen below sixth place in the world in terms of the threat of terrorism. The leadership of the IRP has declared fighting terrorism and extremism one of its priorities, although its problem-solving strategy has been criticized, primarily for the fact that it fights with some organizations, while others “do not notice” or support. The attitude towards them is determined by the principle of “fighting against those who are fighting against Pakistan, without hindering or helping those who are against India, the anti-Pakistan regimes in Afghanistan and the agents of influence of foreign states, including Iran”. Pakistan has been using these groupings to achieve its geopolitical goals since the 70s.

During this period, a start was made to the purposeful Islamization of Pakistan, which became the response of the elite to social discontent that arose in the process of modernizing the country. The beginning of the domestication of Pakistani Islamism was laid by General M. Zia-ul-Haq. His course was established in Pakistan against the background of the April revolution in Afghanistan, 1978, and the Islamic revolution in Iran, 1979. The secular elite, agreeing to Islamization, went on restricting the freedoms of women, narrowing the sphere of use of the English language, introducing Islamic subjects into the number of compulsory in educational institutions, banning alcohol, etc. At the same time, her position remained intact.

In the course of “Islamization from above” M. Zia-ul-Haq, referring to the establishment of the Koran, imposed taxes on zakat and ushr. The ban on the use of alcohol by Muslims was introduced by Z. A. Bhutto. In 1998, the Prime Minister of the IRP, N. Sharif, proposed the adoption of laws introducing the Sharia judicial system in the country. In 90, the beginning of 2000, Islamization in Pakistan proceeded in the wake of the Mujahideen’s “victory” in the war against the Soviet troops in Afghanistan, the successes of the Taliban and the demonstrative condemnation of repressive measures to which the government of India resorted to Jammu and Kashmir Islamabad sabotage and subversion.

In addition, one of the components of the Islamization policy in Pakistan was the creation of infrastructure, including radical Islamist organizations with military units and tens of thousands of madrasas. Religious educational institutions are not currently controlled by the authorities of the country. Terror against Shiite organizations, regarded as agents of Iranian influence and the ideas of Khomeinism, became a separate direction of their activity. In addition, the solution of social problems was transferred to a number of districts of the madrasa. As a result, they combined the charitable, educational, social, political and military components.

The most influential of them were “Jaish-i-Mohammad” and “Lashkar-i-Toiba”, it’s also “Jamaat-ud-Dawa” (in Kashmir), and also “Lashkar-e-Jhangvi” and “Sepah-i- Sahabha Pakistan ", acting against the Shiites. The “allowed” extremist groups of the IRP quickly became an independent factor in political life. Indicative in this regard are Sepah-i-Sahabha Pakistan, Jaish-i-Mohammad and Jamaat-ud-Dawa. Their support is the city of Punjab (especially southern), the most populated and developed province of the country. In Pakistan madrassas study from one and a half to three million people. 10 percent of the total number of students are radicals receiving foreign funding.

In 1947 there were fewer than 300 madrasas in the country. By 1988, their number increased to 3000. Now in Pakistan to 26 000 registered and from 4000 to 10 000 unregistered madrasas. They are in demand, especially among the poor, as students receive free meals, accommodation, and sometimes medical insurance. Attempts by the government to take control of registration, funding, and madrasa programs have so far failed, although they are conducted by central and local authorities time after time.

Khyber Pakhtunkhwa was one of the first provinces in the country, where law enforcement agencies checked madrasas for extremism. At the beginning of the 2015 th of the 3010 madrassas of the region 26 percent were not registered. In the province of Sindh, the authorities counted 4021 madrasas, of which only 2598 are registered. In April, 2015 revealed that 44 religious schools in Sindh are controlled by the outlawed Taliban of Pakistan (DTP). In June, the provincial government decided to close 48 officially functioning madrasahs that "planned to promote terrorism." Later 167 unregistered madrasas were closed.

Right religious parties opposed interference in the affairs of madrasas. Jamaat Ulema-i-Islam Fazl in February 2015 announced the start of the protest movement. She is a member of the ruling coalition, but its leaders have declared that they will continue the struggle, since they cannot move away from their own ideology. It is characteristic that even in 2003, during the reign of P. Musharraf, an attempt was made to register all the madrasas of the country. It turned out to be a failure: religious leaders regarded it as a desire of the authorities to introduce external control. According to the national action plan, madrasas are required to submit audit reports and disclose financing channels, but control of their activities is extremely difficult.

Country of nuclear radicalsAs a result, this autumn, the capital of Pakistan was covered by anti-government speeches by teachers and students of the Red Mosque madrasah, who advocated the introduction of Sharia rule in the country. Her imam, theologian Abdul Aziz and his wife Ummi Hassan, who heads the Jamia Hafza women's madrasa, led 13 on November the march of students, teachers and parishioners to commemorate the Sharia movement created by them. Radical female madrasah students marched through the streets of the capital, chanting slogans in support of jihad and the introduction of Sharia in Pakistan. Speaking to his supporters, Abdul Aziz gave the government a week to make a decision on this issue.

It should be noted that in 2007, teachers and students of the Red Mosque tried to achieve the establishment of Sharia in the country by introducing Sharia courts within the walls of the Red Mosque. An armed confrontation with the authorities ended with the storming of its complex and led to numerous casualties, but failed to close it. 11 000 people are trained in the “Red Mosque” with its largest in the Muslim world women's religious educational institution “Jamia Hafsa” and the men's “Jamia Faridia”. Pakistani researcher F. Taj believes that the seminary prepares from female students the wives and mothers of jihadists, suicide bombers, and female militants who are ready, if necessary, to clash with the law enforcement agencies of Pakistan.

Uranium vs. Plutonium


Imam Abdul Aziz refused to condemn the 16 December attack on 2014 at a school in Peshawar, which killed more than 140 children and teachers, claiming that the massacre was a response to the actions of the Pakistani army in tribal areas. In response, after the terrorist attack in Pakistan, the National Action Plan against terrorism from 20 points was adopted, including a ban on the creation of illegal military formations and the spread of extremist propaganda through the media and communications, the establishment of military field courts, the abolition of the death penalty and tightening state control over madrasas. However, the situation in the country is currently far from stable.

At the same time, Pakistan is a rapidly developing nuclear power. A report by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the Stimson Center claims that it can annually produce 20 nuclear warheads and possess the third largest nuclear arsenal over the next ten years weapons in the world, significantly surpassing India in terms of its production. India, like Pakistan, after testing in May 1998, became an informal nuclear power. Both countries do not participate in the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons. Western analysts believe that Pakistan currently has about 120 nuclear weapons, while India has about 100 units.

Pakistan’s advantage in terms of nuclear ammunition may increase due to the fact that it has stocks of highly enriched uranium, which Islamabad can use to quickly produce low-power nuclear explosive devices. India has more plutonium required for the production of high-power nuclear weapons. However, New Delhi seems to be using most of its plutonium as nuclear fuel for nuclear power plants. Pakistan over the next 5 – 10 years may have 350 and more nuclear weapons, that is, more than all the official nuclear powers (China, France and the UK), except for the United States and Russia.

India has pledged itself not to use nuclear weapons first, stating that in the event of an attack using weapons of mass destruction, it does not exclude the possibility of a nuclear strike. Pakistan has not accepted symmetrical obligations, which leaves it free to act in the event of an armed conflict with India. This included, in particular, the possibility of using tactical nuclear weapons, the threat of which from Pakistan was great during the so-called Kargil conflict in 1999 and the “armed confrontation” in 2001 – 2002.

The question is: how quickly can Pakistan increase its nuclear arsenal? The country's military nuclear program is controlled and implemented by the army, not civilian authorities. Pakistan, unlike India, lacks the practice of parliamentary debates on the feasibility of building up a nuclear arsenal. This creates a situation of uncertainty of its use of nuclear weapons in the event of an armed conflict with India. According to the theory of "nuclear games" Thomas Schelling is designed to keep India and its sun in suspense. Moreover, there are no legally binding agreements between Pakistan and India to limit nuclear arms reduction or reduction, as was the case during the Cold War between the USSR and the USA.

India and Pakistan have a non-aggression agreement on each other’s nuclear facilities in the event of an armed conflict, as well as an obligation to exchange lists of sensitive nuclear facilities provided by both parties to 1 in January each year. There is an agreement to notify each other about the launch of ballistic missiles and a direct line of communication between the commanders of the armed forces. However, they refuse to join the global reduction of nuclear weapons and negotiations on this issue, which are between the official nuclear powers, starting with the United States and the Russian Federation.

It is Pakistan that is slowing down the start of negotiations on a fissile material cut-off treaty (an FMCT or Fissile Materials Cut-off Treaty, FMCT). This means that the situation with Pakistan’s accumulation of these materials is beyond the control of the IAEA and international experts on nuclear non-proliferation in South Asia. If Pakistan uses all stocks of fissile materials, which it has four times more than India’s, then it could have 350 nuclear weapons in five to seven years.

Uncontrolled Genie

Another problem related to Pakistan is its nuclear safety and the physical safety of its nuclear facilities. Although in Pakistan, according to its authorities, there is a program to protect nuclear facilities from attack or seizure of nuclear weapons by terrorists, for which Washington allocated 100 million dollars, ammunition is stored separately from delivery vehicles, and the personnel of these facilities (insiders) are being tested for employment On the lie detector, experts express concern about the safety of Islamabad’s nuclear arsenals.

The Pakistani government claims that nuclear weapons and their delivery vehicles (both missile and aviation) are under the strictest control. However, experts are alarmed by insiders who may have radical views or sympathize with the Islamists and, as a result, “surrender” nuclear facilities, storage facilities for nuclear weapons and their means of delivery to terrorists. True, in the case of the capture of nuclear munitions, in order to use it, it is necessary to get their delivery vehicles, which is unlikely. The alarm is caused by the possible falling into the hands of terrorists of fissile materials to create a "dirty bomb" and its subsequent use against India, in the cities of Europe and the USA or in the Middle East. This is especially true in connection with the emergence in Pakistan of supporters of the banned Islamic State in Russia.

It should be noted that the country's army leadership considers deterrence of the possible aggression of India by means of low-power nuclear tactical weapons as the main military doctrine. It is actively modernized in Pakistani research centers. The main costs of this research are borne by Saudi Arabia. There is an agreement between Riyadh and Islamabad that Saudi nuclear scientists will have a regular practice in Pakistan’s nuclear centers. This program is clearly intended to be Riyadh’s response to an agreement on the Iranian nuclear program, which means Tehran’s inevitable possession of nuclear weapons. The MUTO for Riyadh is the best option for an asymmetric response to a possible Iranian aggression.

Islamabad is responding to the cold start of India’s military doctrine. Previous - "Sundardzhi" included building defensive infrastructure, which allowed for large-scale counterattacks; Border defense was assigned to seven infantry corps, which would create conditions for a counterattack by three corps prepared in central India; the time to prepare the offensive was estimated at three weeks, and its general goal was to cut Pakistan into two parts.

“Cold start” provides for an offensive by the forces of eight operational-tactical groups reinforced by artillery. Preparation for it should take no more than 96 hours, air support coming to go without a gradual increase, the maximum task is to invade Pakistani territory no more than 80 kilometers. The calculation is made on the speed of the attack in order to transfer the fighting to Pakistan, after which Islamabad will have to strike with nuclear weapons on its territory, knowing that the enemy does not want to go deep into the country. The rupture of the military capabilities of Pakistan and India in favor of the latter forces Islamabad to take asymmetric measures with the use of tactical nuclear weapons as the main means of deterrence. India is not working on a program to develop such weapons, and Pakistan has an advantage in this area.

At the same time, the risk of a full-scale exchange of nuclear strikes increases dramatically, since India has officially warned that the use of any form of nuclear weapons will cause a retaliatory strike by a strategic arsenal. Provocation of India to the commencement of the operation in accordance with the Cold Start doctrine may occur as a result of a terrorist attack, like the one that Lashkar-i-Toiba conducted in Mumbai. Given that India and Pakistan are actively using terrorist groups against each other, including in Afghanistan, any successful terrorist attack can cause a full-scale conflict.

Thus, the Indian doctrine of lightning strike torpedoes a halt to war by means of international diplomacy; there is no time for that. The only effective means of retaliation and deterrence in the Pakistani army is tactical nuclear weapons. This increases the risk of conflict escalating to a full-scale nuclear war in South Asia by an order of magnitude. And it can depend not on the military-political leadership of those countries that will ultimately prove to be its main victims, but on the terrorist groups, which the Pakistani leadership cannot cope with even in peacetime.

The latter explains the unexpected, at first glance, interview of ex-Pakistani President P. Musharraf, when he extremely negatively assessed the results of Islamabad’s support of thirteen major terrorist organizations used against India, the Soviet army in Afghanistan and other potential opponents of the PRI for decades. The usual situation in the East, when a genie, called out of good intentions, having fulfilled the task, refused to return to the jug, becoming a threat first of all to his master.
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  1. Tor5
    +10
    26 November 2015 22: 18
    But the Pakistani problem was not enough for us to be completely happy.
    1. +5
      26 November 2015 23: 05
      for complete happiness.
      For complete grief!
      The USA has a Pakistani card - in a stash, to the extreme! And if these dolbodauny begin to play her, then
      - it will be HOT, FIRE, NUCLEAR BOLD POINT!
      1. 0
        27 November 2015 01: 12
        Quote: Author Evgeny Satanovsky
        It is Pakistan that impedes the start of negotiations on a Fissile Material Cutoff Treaty (FMCT or FMCT). This means that the situation with Pakistan accumulating these materials, not amenable to control by the IAEA and international experts on nuclear non-proliferation in South Asia.

        In this case, the risk of a full-blown nuclear exchange sharply increasessince India has officially warned that the use of any form of nuclear weapons will trigger a retaliatory strike from the strategic arsenal

        The Pakistani army’s only effective means of retaliation and deterrence is tactical nuclear weapons. It increases the risk of conflict escalating to a full-fledged nuclear war in South Asia is an order of magnitude. And this may depend not on the military-political leadership of those countries that will ultimately turn out to be its main victims, but from terrorist groups
        , which can easily push, provoke Anglo-Saxons on it, from another continent ("invisibly", surreptitiously, as they can professionally) !!!! After all, they, the current ignorant stupid heads, do not even imagine the consequences for the entire planet, they think that nuclear weapons are just a SOOO BIG BOMB! GREAT POWER! THE MOST PERFECT ARGUMENT!

        And these fanatical Islamist monkeys with a nuclear bomb in their hands have nothing to do with it! They just have it! By the way, they also had it not without the help of these stupid guys! Especially for "JAM" (If you remember this expression)

        Evgeny Yanovich, the article is excellent, as always from you! I'm not a prowler, BUT -
        WHAT TO DO?
        That is the question!
        In this scenario!
        1. +2
          27 November 2015 02: 57
          Quote: Baikonur
          I'm not a prowler, BUT -
          WHAT TO DO?

          Remember the old Soviet - wrap yourself in a sheet and crawl towards the cemetery .. wassat
          1. +4
            27 November 2015 04: 13
            It is important to understand why what is happening with religion in Pakistan and generally around the world.
            Firstly, the fermentation of Muslims, as well as the fermentation of Christians, are the self-confident claims of blindly believing people to their “God's chosen people” in their right to rule over other people and impose their will on them. For this they will fight to the end. Moreover, Islam is more aggressive than Christianity in that it is psychologically implicated also on the sexual aspect. Namely, the Muslim men for the exploits in the name of God, Islam promises virgins in paradise 100. The sexual aspect in this case acts as the strongest biological stimulus for excitation of pleasure centers on a subconscious level - i.e. acts like a physiological drug.
            Secondly. ANY religious denomination (church) is a rapidly growing business structure - a religious business corporation, - which trades in providing believers for donations (i.e., in fact, trades in selling for money, for material rewards and for various commercial state references to the clergy from those in power) of various religious services - and not taxed at all for centuries.
            Naturally, financially - even in the sense of taxes alone - SECONDARY business corporations that pay taxes are RICHER SLOW than RELIGIOUS corporations. In this case, any RELIGIOUS denomination is, in fact, also an offshore zone, i.e. state in state. Therefore, SECURITY corporations - over time - historically always lose RELIGIOUS if the SECOND corporations were not protected against RELIGIOUS by a special law, for example, the Constitution of the country.
            Moreover, between these religious business denominations (churches) there has always been and still is inter-religious competition in the market of religious services, which has always led and leads to inter-religious wars in the history of mankind.
            All this is well known from the priestly times of ancient Egypt and was used by those in power in their principle of “Divide - and rule!”
            And all this is well understood by US analysts who have drawn up their Harvard project to establish a “new world order”, in which purposefully use this knowledge-truth in practice.
            The US Harvard project, as a continuation of the Houston project to establish a “new world order”, implies the fragmentation of all modern secular states into small monarchical religious states with the complete dependence of quasi-monarchs on the USA itself as a result of the organization of inter-religious wars that we are now able to observe . Moreover, the project, as a consequence, implies that science in these new colonially dependent religious state formations will be destroyed at the root and reduced to a medieval and earlier religious obscurantism - scientifically untenable - level; that industry will be liquidated and production in the country will fall to a makeshift level, etc., etc. And part of the Earth’s population in these countries is the so-called. "Extra" people of mankind - will be "disposed of" in this case.
            Thus, inter-religious wars and slavery are envisaged in the Harvard project as the future of mankind as a result of the establishment of a “new world order”.
            Therefore, if you want peace, then states should only be secular - supra-religious, and religion - a private affair of citizens.
            1. 0
              27 November 2015 09: 24
              Moreover, with the advent of atheists, everyone else can water them with mud, and not each other. Very comfortably.
            2. 0
              27 November 2015 11: 59
              Ay Tatyana just to the point, I liked it.
              1. 0
                27 November 2015 12: 16
                And I do not agree with such an equalization
                the fermentation of Muslims, as well as the fermentation of Christians, are self-confident claims of blindly believing people to their “God's chosen people” in their right to rule over other people and impose their will on them. For this they will fight to the end.
                Christianity (EXACTLY ORTHODOXY!) DOESN'T
                the self-confident claims of blindly believing people to their “God's chosen people” in their right to rule over other people and impose their will on them.
                LawGLORY it does not boast of its Faith, does not beat its forehead against the earth for all, as Islam, showing how strongly believing it is, does not dance and does not orgasm with everyone like Catholics, does not shout about its faith, but proves with good, GOD-pleasing deeds, deeds!
                And in Orthodoxy there is NO even thought about
                religious services market


                Therefore, if you want peace, then states should only be secular - supra-religious, and religion - a private affair of citizens.
                This is your private opinion!
        2. 0
          27 November 2015 03: 47
          You can not do anything global - specially designated people should deal with this problem. The following is required from an ordinary citizen:
          - Know the basics of survival and know what others also know (knowledge of bomb shelters, rules of conduct, first aid, knowledge of warning signals, knowledge of the effects of nuclear weapons on humans, knowledge of disinfection methods)
          -Main basic basic means of survival (collected documents, a set of medicines, a set of clothes, a minimum supply of long-term food and auxiliary tools - a source of light, fire, etc., etc.)

          You can still live in a very sparsely populated place - no one will bomb a village with hundreds of inhabitants with nuclear weapons), for example, eco-settlements - some people live in rural conditions with urban comfort and have a source of biogas (methantank), electricity (solar panels, windmills, gas generators), gas heating or electric, solar-water heating, energy-efficient homes (with minimal energy consumption for heating and other needs) through the use of recuperators, thermal insulation and other methods.

          And yet, I almost forgot - you always need to be careful, otherwise you can not survive to a nuclear strike, dying on the wheels of a car while watching a smartphone.
          1. 0
            27 November 2015 12: 03
            Will Turukhansky district fit?
        3. 0
          27 November 2015 11: 47
          I will express a seditious, anti-Christian and even anti-human thought, but whoever creates (and maybe has already created) a genetic weapon, and even selective action, will solve his problems either once and for all, or not all at once, but also forever, here he will simply speak the factor of time and the way of deceiving the "Contenders" planet earth.
      2. 0
        27 November 2015 01: 47
        Pakistan and Israel - two macaques with a nuclear grenade on a short American leash, nuclear weapons made Brezhnev kosher as well, and Gorbi na Pakam did not dare to bunker in centrifuge bunkers - unfinished eco-humanists.
      3. 0
        27 November 2015 09: 17
        Quote: Baikonur
        it will be a HOT, FIRE, NUCLEAR BOLD POINT!

        Throw the United States and England Old on the fact that in which case we will not bomb Pakistan and Turkey, but immediately these freaks.
    2. +5
      26 November 2015 23: 31
      I’m afraid that creatures whose daily routine includes:
      - wake up
      - pray
      - "walk" with a donkey
      - eat
      - pray
      - shoot
      - by crap
      - pray
      - to go to bed
      it becomes more and more every year when they reach a critical mass it will become impossible to manage and control them, and then what?
      1. +6
        27 November 2015 00: 07
        Quote: tatarin_ru
        I’m afraid that creatures whose daily routine includes:
        - wake up
        - pray
        - "walk" with a donkey
        - eat
        - pray
        - shoot
        - by crap
        - pray
        - to go to bed
        it becomes more and more every year when they reach a critical mass it will become impossible to manage and control them, and then what?

        We’ll introduce your daily routine -
        - wake up;
        - shoot creatures;
        - shoot creatures;
        - shoot creatures;
        - shoot creatures;
        - clean the weapon;
        - to go to bed.

        What do we need, for the first time, or something. True, sleep is sometimes delayed, and all other items on the daily routine are familiar.
  2. +15
    26 November 2015 22: 18
    "It is a common situation in the East when a genie, summoned out of good intentions, having completed the task, refused to return to the jug, becoming a threat primarily to its master."

    Not only for the East. Sooner or later, the owner of all world terrorism - the United States - is overwhelmed by all this with a complete spoon. I'd like to wish you bon appetit.
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    2. +1
      26 November 2015 23: 09
      This genie is not yet fully ripe, until he is going to kill the one who freed him.
    3. +2
      27 November 2015 02: 36
      Quote: Reserve officer
      Sooner or later, the owner of all world terrorism - the United States - is overwhelmed by all this with a complete spoon. I'd like to wish you bon appetit.

      Yes, they just tried a little in Boston - and that didn’t like it. I don't consider the WTC a terrorist attack - Bin Laden, of course, is also not a buttercup flower, but in this case it has nothing to do with it. The attack on the World Trade Center cannot be considered a terrorist attack against America - a routine operation of American intelligence services. Moreover, traditionally for American provocations, it is also organized, as usual, not in the sound - the "evidence" is sewn with white thread, the "terrorists" are assigned the dust has not settled yet, witnesses die one after another from random hooligans, that only fifth-graders of American schools and our liberals do not understand something ...

      We, in spite of everything, and not so worried. And they answered with dignity. And now, I hope, there will be something to "talk" about with the bearded. And gentle America, which has never seen anything worse than a cockroach in a hamburger for almost 250 years, will take a full spoonful of hot.

      Look, in Paris - "rally", "oppose", "coalition", "punish" ... And they show how they are carrying flowers and someone blows up a firecracker - scatter over their heads in different directions ... I understand, there are not soldiers, ordinary people, but genetic memory is a powerful thing. And our famous "and we ... (many)" are in our genes.
  3. +1
    26 November 2015 22: 26
    Chaos is growing. Sore throats are not enough for mankind, the ass on the ass is right there, figuratively speaking. And that's not all .
  4. +5
    26 November 2015 22: 33
    As far as I know, Pakistan has always been a problem, I hope that everything is forgiven ...
    1. +3
      26 November 2015 23: 07
      Quote: Masya Masya
      As far as I know, Pakistan has always been a problem, I hope that everything is forgiven ...

      Who would have thought for another 5-10 years <that Tourettchina would dare to shoot down our board. This was not imagined in a bad dream. They returned the MiG-1989 in a day in 29, and the minke whales were not allowed to see it, unlike the Yap in 1976. with the MiG-25P.
      So, that is hoped for everything is forgiven .... belay when Pakistan has nuclear weapons and Islamism is strong there .... well, optimism is a good thing laughing
    2. +1
      26 November 2015 23: 58
      Quote: Masya Masya
      As far as I know, Pakistan has always been a problem, I hope that everything is forgiven ...

      Therefore, we are arming India to keep this beast in check. But Pakistan, in my opinion, asked for BRICS ... or am I mistaken?
      1. +3
        27 November 2015 01: 05
        Do not be mistaken about the request of Pakistan, but the organization is different.
        On July 10, 2015, the SCO opened in Ufa. SCO members are Russia, Kazakhstan, Kyrgyzstan, China, Tajikistan and Uzbekistan. Before the Ufa summit, Afghanistan had observer status, India, Iran, Mongolia and Pakistan, dialogue partners were Belarus, Turkey and Sri Lanka. This year, the process of expanding the organization began.
        The main outcome of the summit was the decision to begin the process of full accession to the SCO of India and Pakistan.
    3. +5
      27 November 2015 03: 23
      Pakistan from the word BACK!
  5. +3
    26 November 2015 22: 38
    Laziness was to read the entire article, once.
    But I think Pakistan has crap and with India, enough to climb somewhere. Moreover, Indian Muslims are happy to slaughter Pakistani, and vice versa (sorry for such rudeness).
    Deb.i.loid.y British so they took and divided. request maybe I'm wrong. We used to live in one country, but now "Karabakh" is a border for Hindus and Muslims
    1. +2
      27 November 2015 03: 06
      Well yes. The British, leaving India, really divided it into India and Pakistan, and on a religious basis. The same thing was done with Russia, Ukraine and Belarus. And here, by the way, the separation of religious denominations also takes place. But! When the population of a region or country lives according to its own rules and laws, conflicts, of course, do happen - after all, we sometimes swear with our neighbors. But real, serious wars begin when someone else’s uncle (or aunt) comes into the house and begins to force everyone to remake in their own way. Muslims, Hindus, Orthodox Christians lived quietly. Jews and Catholics, well, sometimes they fought, figuring out which of them serves the Lord correctly, then they put up, but they lived as they wanted. And here comes an uncle who says that there is no God. but there is a great Dollar, for which it’s only worth living. And you need to live as I say! And went around the world ...
  6. -1
    26 November 2015 22: 50
    As I understand it, religions have given great rights there and it is not clear what this may lead to. I won’t be surprised if there will be a religious coup. The fact that Pakistan supports the necessary terrorists is not the first. No one will just unleash a nuclear conflict in their right mind. The biggest danger in my opinion lies in great religious freedoms. I'm afraid religion may become the fifth column. It is not clear why religions gave so much freedom there.
  7. win
    +2
    26 November 2015 22: 52
    And Russia is going to pull the gas pipeline to Pakistan.
    That pestilenceоka will ...
  8. -2
    26 November 2015 22: 55
    Yes, gentlemen, comrades, it’s a bad thing — people with such faith cannot have such weapons — you yourself know why. M.S. Gorbachev perhaps did the right thing and decided to destroy O.M. and maybe he is not a traitor, A naive person, trusting. But in our world you can not trust anyone, especially non-Christians, there is an example. We are heading into the abyss. I worry about grandchildren. And that's all WE HAVE DONE IT. And if nothing is changed globally, let's hope for God? Do you know what religion is for? To control the masses, the more religious a person is, the less he thinks with his head. We are doomed, I am afraid that in the near future, and our grandchildren will probably not have it, but many of us have lived our lives.
    1. -1
      27 November 2015 01: 09
      Hunchbacked tokyu country baud has slanted with the ausks of amers fool
  9. +1
    26 November 2015 22: 57
    So it turns out - where did the British, the French (possibly about other countries) come from everywhere the possibilities of conflict were laid. The USSR unified Germany, without any possible future conflicts - to unite, strengthen.
  10. +1
    26 November 2015 23: 03
    Honestly, I didn’t read the article ... as far as I understood, it was the opinion - the packs and the Indians face each other’s faces ... it’s profitable for us ... this is my immoral position ... we’ll sell weapons to both, oil will rise in price, the Chinese silk road will slow down past us ... it’s profitable, IMHO
  11. +1
    26 November 2015 23: 09
    It’s terrible if the Pakistanis give weapons to the Ishilov’s
    1. +3
      26 November 2015 23: 15
      If they do, they will certainly not ask us.
    2. 0
      26 November 2015 23: 25
      Quote: Saratovets
      It’s terrible if the Pakistanis give weapons to the Ishilov’s

      But why have not yet been transferred? Think, what’s easier, picked up and handed it over, maybe you’ll guess. I can tell you why this will never happen.
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  13. +4
    26 November 2015 23: 14
    The sixth place in the world in terms of terrorist threat, nuclear status, tens of thousands of madrassas, some of which are controlled by the same terrorists ... If it even breaks out there, it will not seem a little certain.
  14. 0
    26 November 2015 23: 22
    IS is not just a problem for Syria and Pakistan. Somalia, Afghanistan, Iraq, Egypt, Yemen, Libya, Turkey, Uzbekistan and a dozen more countries in Africa and Asia.
    This is not a case - this is a trend, and if you do not stop it now, but let propaganda and new formations form a single whole - we will get such a powerful force of many millions, which cannot be dispensed with by just bombing and offensive operation.
    World War III, no kidding, just not with the West, but with the East No.
    1. 0
      27 November 2015 01: 06
      east east americans here's a bastion of evil
  15. 0
    26 November 2015 23: 31
    On the moon, you can probably take a break from earthly worries ...
  16. 0
    26 November 2015 23: 59
    why. M.S. Gorbachev perhaps did the right thing and decided to destroy Ozh.M. And maybe he is not a traitor, A naive person, trusting

    Well, yes .. a person who had power - "I am not guilty, He himself came" .. sad am The first lady, caviar, balyk did not hawala?, And did not dress from haute couture (sorry), And the regional committee did not create horror? And ALL for the "salary", now just friends "gave". Sarcasm, nothing changes. Until you hide behind bars or kill you stupidly. sad While the people from behind the soap, cigarettes throats in lines nibbled ..
  17. 0
    27 November 2015 01: 04
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: Masya Masya
    As far as I know, Pakistan has always been a problem, I hope that everything is forgiven ...

    Therefore, we are arming India to keep this beast in check. But Pakistan, in my opinion, asked for BRICS ... or am I mistaken?

    not those we are arming we need to arming here
    1. +1
      27 November 2015 01: 09
      Quote: CKORPII
      not those we are arming we need to arming here

      And what do you think we do? We are not arming India for free and not for our money. The Indians are paying us with a coin, which helps us to develop new ones and modernize the old ones. An example project is PAK FA. hi
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  19. 0
    27 November 2015 03: 33
    Satanovsky - as always, looks at the root. Pakistan may turn out to be a SUPPLIER of tactical nuclear weapons to Islamic radicals - Saudis, if they suddenly decide that Iran is "offending" them, or decides to probe India "weakly"! But Pakistan has a population of 180 million. It is the largest of the radical Muslim countries, and the only one with nuclear weapons.
  20. 0
    27 November 2015 03: 40
    They have good jeans ...
    I’ll buy two more pairs and perhaps support them.
  21. 0
    27 November 2015 04: 56
    when will the volcano cover them - fooling from fat and money - striped skunks?
    and the ocean to help - would take into its abyss - immediately the silence in the world would come.
    1. 0
      27 November 2015 05: 35
      Quote: Conscience
      when will the volcano cover them - fooling from fat and money - striped skunks?

      Watch the movie "Supervolcano". There are two films: fiction and documentary. There is a calculation of the radius of damage on the map of North America. In the case of a supervolcano, the whole planet will not seem a little, "nuclear winter", about which Academician Kapitsa wrote when I was a schoolboy, roughly corresponds. Only without radioactive contamination.
  22. 0
    27 November 2015 05: 33
    when religion begins to unnecessarily interfere in government affairs it always ends badly ...
  23. 0
    27 November 2015 06: 46
    All this is of course a headache for the world community, but the state players in this region are aware of this problem and I don’t think that readers are more worried about this by politicians. In this case, various versions of events are being worked out. All nuclear facilities are under control and if a threat arises in the region, they will be neutralized. Of course there is always a risk of failure, but this work is constantly being carried out in many areas. This has been repeatedly mentioned in the media.
  24. 0
    27 November 2015 08: 04
    Until humanity destroys the Anglo-Saxons and Jews, we will sit on the powder keg.
  25. Darkoff
    0
    27 November 2015 08: 13
    I didn’t understand about this:
    In Russia, little is written about Pakistan, although de facto we have a common border. More precisely, the transparent borders of Afghanistan with post-Soviet Central Asia (except Uzbekistan) and Pakistan

    About the Turkmen-Afghan border, there is a feeling that Turkmenbashi should have everything under control.
    And what is wrong with the Tajik-Afghan border? Ours do not deal with it or what?
    If everything is so, then Yanych grieved and puzzled. sad
  26. 0
    27 November 2015 09: 03
    I think no country will decide to transfer nuclear weapons, as well as the secrets of its creation, although the USSR did this - it transferred technology to the PRC, but times are changing, now this should not happen, everyone has become smarter.
  27. 0
    27 November 2015 09: 05
    Quote: Saratovets
    It’s terrible if the Pakistanis give weapons to the Ishilov’s

    They are not so frostbitten as to transmit. They won’t even give Saud out, but they really want to.
    Quote: dchegrinec
    All this is of course a headache for the world community, but the state players in this region are aware of this problem and I don’t think that readers are more worried about this by politicians. In this case, various versions of events are being worked out. All nuclear facilities are under control and if a threat arises in the region, they will be neutralized. Of course there is always a risk of failure, but this work is constantly being carried out in many areas. This has been repeatedly mentioned in the media.

    EMNIP then one of such methods of protection against the capture and use of nuclear weapons by terrorists is that the ammunition is disassembled at several bases. That is, in order to get ammunition you need to capture several bases, then collect it.

    Quote: Volzhanin
    Until humanity destroys the Anglo-Saxons and Jews, we will sit on the powder keg.

    Nothing will change. Destroy these - others will appear. Muslims, for example, or Indians. According to this scheme, you can always find the enemy. Then you will not like the color of your hair or the cut of your eyes ...
  28. 0
    27 November 2015 09: 17
    Quote: Conscience
    when will the volcano cover them - fooling from fat and money - striped skunks?
    and the ocean to help - would take into its abyss - immediately the silence in the world would come.

    Right Silence. And with us including ...

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