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Saved navigator Su-24: "there were no warnings"

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The navigator of the Su-24 bomber shot down by the Turks, Konstantin Murakhtin, told reporters about the attack on the plane and said that there were no warnings from the Turkish side, reports RIA News.


Saved navigator Su-24: "there were no warnings"


“In fact, there were no warnings. Neither by radio nor visually. There was no contact at all. Therefore, we went to the combat course in the normal mode. You need to understand what the speed of the bomber, and what - at the fighter F16. If we wanted to warn us, we could show ourselves by standing on a parallel course. And there was nothing. Yes, and the rocket came to the tail of our aircraft suddenly. We didn’t even see it visually in order to have time to make an anti-missile maneuver. ”


Recall Su-24 was shot down on Tuesday. The Turkish side claims that the Su-24 aircraft violated the country's air border and the F-16 pilots, before releasing the missile, were warned several times by the Russian crew about a possible attack.
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RIA News. Dmitry Vinogradov
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  1. herruvim
    herruvim 25 November 2015 18: 26 New
    106
    I didn’t even doubt that a provocation is a provocation, they made meanness and thought there would be no witnesses, but then figs to you
    1. sannych
      sannych 25 November 2015 18: 27 New
      50
      But what about 10 warnings in 8 seconds? They lie, the Janissaries are bad.
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 25 November 2015 18: 30 New
        72
        Спланировано было! Вчера Один заслуженныи лётчик объяснял термин "воздушная засада" и сказал, что это она и была!
        Today, the main witness confirms!
        Also, there is already evidence that the Turkish Air Force has long collected data on our routes and flight times. And at this time their samzik ​​always paced, waiting for the moment!
        Death - HERdognide!
        1. Temples
          Temples 25 November 2015 18: 32 New
          89
          Вот для того, что бы не было такого разговора турки разместили боевиков в "нужном" месте.
          В "нужном" месте "случайно" оказались и террористы и "журналисты"
          filming the joy of these freaks.
          Turks are not just supporters of terrorists.
          Turks are the organizers of this outrage.
          1. krokodil25
            krokodil25 25 November 2015 18: 42 New
            +5
            I am interested in the question of how to ensure a sufficient termination of fighters! ?
            1. hedgehog in the fog
              hedgehog in the fog 25 November 2015 19: 11 New
              14
              I think the action was planned and prepared
              only at the request of the CIA, I won’t be surprised if American pilots sat at the helm
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 25 November 2015 19: 55 New
                24
                From the text of the article
                Saved navigator Su-24: "there were no warnings"

                This is to be expected. It is good that the saved navigator is alive and can testify to this in court.
                Erdogan is a high-ranking Turkish raider-bandit, and his methods are gangster. Namely.
                Erdogan, using his official position in Turkey, personally, with the excess of authority on behalf of Turkey, entered the war with Russia in defense of his personal oil raider business in Syria with the participation of the ISIS gangs hired by him for this.
                Erdogan not only used his official position in Turkey for his own selfish purposes, but also decided to personally put NATO at its service! Cover personally yourself and your personal interests with the “umbrella” of NATO for Turkey!
                Erdogan personally exposed himself as a war criminal in the ranks of NATO!
                On Erdogan ISIS crimes.
                Erdogan under the COURT!
                1. veksha50
                  veksha50 25 November 2015 20: 36 New
                  +7
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  It is good that the saved navigator is alive and can testify to this in court.


                  Tatyana !!! I am with two arms and legs for your conclusion!

                  However, the testimonies of the surviving navigator are important only for us, the people, for the leadership of the country and Her Supreme Court !!!

                  For the same international court, this testimony is zero without a wand ... Unfortunately ...

                  Putin directly accused Turkey of supporting terrorism in general, and in particular of IS. From here such dances started - Erdogan wants to create a situation in which he can push Russia against the United States (NATO) ...

                  Помните фильм "Кавказская пленница", когда герой Мкртчяна говорит герою Этуша: "Не путай свой личный карман с государственным" ?
                  So, now this is about the situation ... Although NATO did not express condolences over the deaths of our people (not only the commander of the Su-24 crew, but also the marine from the revenue group of our pilots) - to hell with them !!! However, in defense of Turkey they haven’t taken special steps yet ... I don’t know, maybe I missed something during this time ...

                  I just hope that our Security Council will find a competent solution, such that at Erdogan and his camarilla the land will burn underfoot ...

                  Мне кажется, что первые шаги уже предприняты... И бизнесмены Турции, да и простой народ скоро скажут "огромное спасибо" Эрдогану...
                  1. Kazanec
                    Kazanec 25 November 2015 20: 53 New
                    +8
                    I agree! But given the domestic political graters in Turkey, the idea that Erdogan was stupidly set up by his own does not leave me. He wanted to sit on two chairs and to be friends with Russia with his radicals. Yes, and receive loot for oil igilovskaya. Therefore, when he was informed that our plane was blocked, with a fright and darted into NATO, he probably understands that there might be a specific answer. This, in my opinion, is a slap in the face of Putin.
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                    2. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 25 November 2015 21: 16 New
                      +8
                      veksha50 (1)
                      I just hope that our Security Council will find a competent solution, such that at Erdogan and his camarilla the land will burn underfoot ...

                      However, war by war, but also peaceful legal norms should be more widely used against the predatory war in Syria. It is also a very powerful moral weapon against war.
                      Russia needs to develop its information initiative in the field of criminal exposure of Erdogan as quickly and as widely as possible and at the same time involve the legal aspect of international law. This will be a serious legal blow to the colonial militarists in general.
                      And since the Russian Federation came out on the side of Assad, it should be consistent in this regard in all respects - and in bringing to court specific criminal government personnel of the aggressor countries, too. Moreover, it is very important that these criminal personalities lead entire states in hot regions.
                      It is necessary to end the lawlessness of the “new world order” in hot spots in all respects.
                      1. veksha50
                        veksha50 25 November 2015 21: 30 New
                        +9
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        It is necessary to end the lawlessness of the “new world order” in hot spots in all respects.


                        Well, here absolutely no objection can arise ...

                        Проблема в то, повторюсь, что пока мы не покажем "мускульный налив" всем международным судам. - толку будет мало...
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 25 November 2015 22: 19 New
                        +7
                        veksha50 (1)
                        Проблема в то, повторюсь, что пока мы не покажем "мускульный налив" всем международным судам. - толку будет мало...

                        Everything needs to be done together. And DO it! For water does not flow under a lying stone. If you want to win the war (battle) - do not miss the initiative! Beat the first! Act diverse! Use all reasonable opportunities!
                        Legal charges against Erdogan will take time. You need to start legally now!
                        Even the fact of such an initiative against Erdogan will make many potential criminals think that his criminal acts, no matter who they provoke for him, will not go unpunished for him personally! This will stop many people from participating in crimes.
                      3. severniy
                        severniy 25 November 2015 22: 37 New
                        +9
                        dispatch to the Turks ...
                      4. wk
                        wk 26 November 2015 04: 15 New
                        0
                        Quote: severniy
                        dispatch to the Turks ...

                        this is not a dispatch ... this is a provocation ... Russians should not be like Svidomo ... vandalism in their city, even if it is against a hostile embassy, ​​it is definitely an attack, violation of international law, etc. ... only pests are able to organize such a pseudo-patriotic share.
                      5. Stepan stepanovich
                        Stepan stepanovich 26 November 2015 06: 30 New
                        0
                        You are not right!
                        When the power of a snot is chewing, people can express their attitude to to Turkish partners.
                      6. Private Starley
                        Private Starley 26 November 2015 07: 53 New
                        0
                        народ может выразить свое отношение к турецким партнерам отказом от отдыха в этой стране, а наш народ вроде как еще достаточно культурный, что бы не уподобляться "люстраторам" с майдауна...
                      7. Nosgoth
                        Nosgoth 27 November 2015 15: 22 New
                        0
                        ваш призыв пропитан бесхребетностью и прикрытием так называемой "вежливостью". Наш народ имеет право на социальный протест, не считайте его за стадо, живущее только по указке сверху (типа не уподобляться и т.д.).
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        2. Morrrow
          Morrrow 25 November 2015 21: 46 New
          +8
          Complete ignorance of reality. Understand EVERY Turk is a nationalist.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 26 November 2015 00: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: Morrrow
            Complete ignorance of reality. Understand EVERY Turk is a nationalist.

            Why be surprised - a kind of Ukraine, not just two years of Bandera, but two hundred years.
        3. arane
          arane 25 November 2015 22: 47 New
          +4
          Quote: Kazanets
          I agree! But given the domestic political graters in Turkey, the idea that Erdogan was stupidly set up by his own does not leave me. He wanted to sit on two chairs and to be friends with Russia with his radicals. Yes, and receive loot for oil igilovskaya. Therefore, when he was informed that our plane was blocked, with a fright and darted into NATO, he probably understands that there might be a specific answer. This, in my opinion, is a slap in the face of Putin.


          Man, it’s hit us all on the face now!
        4. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 25 November 2015 23: 56 New
          +3
          Quote: Kazanets
          This is, in my opinion, a slap in the face of Putin.

          Про "пощёчину Путину" эрдоганские СМИ кричат. На мой взгляд - это не пощёчина, а, как правильно сказал сам ВВП - "нож в спину". A slap in the face is an open, non-veiled expression of contempt, a desire to inflict a clear insult. And here - quietly, from the back, hiding behind noble motives.

          Если уж эрдоганские СМИ вопят о "пощёчине", то представляю, что сейчас творится на цензорнете! Вакханалия, наверное... Хотел на эту помойку глянуть, провести персональную "пятиминутку ненависти" - заблокировали. А ради цензорнета даже шевелений неохота предпринимать, чтобы лок обойти...
          1. Retvizan 8
            Retvizan 8 26 November 2015 11: 45 New
            0
            In general, there’s not enough nerves to go into such resources!
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      3. _Vladislav_
        _Vladislav_ 25 November 2015 22: 18 New
        +5
        Rescue operation after an airplane crash.
      4. Retvizan 8
        Retvizan 8 26 November 2015 11: 39 New
        0
        Well, Roskomnadzor has already begun to nightmare their products, we look forward to continuing ...
    2. FlyEngine
      FlyEngine 25 November 2015 20: 50 New
      +8
      I think that they started shooting at pilots from the ground only so that they could not tell the truth.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 26 November 2015 00: 08 New
        +4
        Quote: FlyEngine
        I think that they started shooting at pilots from the ground only so that they could not tell the truth.

        Yes, here the problem with the navigator came out, missed ... Only for the West, Konstantin Mitrokhin is not a witness. But for us - more than. И этого, думаю, достаточно. Хватит "вырабатывать консолидированное решение", пора принимать своё...
    3. Aleksander
      Aleksander 25 November 2015 21: 07 New
      10
      На все грозные предполагаемые планы мести в адрес турции сегодня ответил ВВП (по ОРТ): " То, что произошло вчера-not so scary belay belay , как то, что это может повторяться". То есть один раз (первый)-не... считается, а вот если еще, то... То есть- в ответ на вчерашнее-не будет НИЧЕГО, имхо....
      In this way, loot (i.e., the oligarchs' profits from gas, nuclear power plants under construction, tourist flows, etc.) wins the good ...
      In this, I all have only one sincere feeling — a feeling of great respect and eternal gratitude to the Russian pilot soldiers and the marine who died for their homeland — their eternal memory ....
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    5. Al_oriso
      Al_oriso 25 November 2015 21: 34 New
      0
      Why does he need a court?
      On the trainer.
    6. kdale1980
      kdale1980 26 November 2015 00: 23 New
      0
      Tatyana, I completely agree with you. But it is unlikely that Endogar did something that he did not agree with the United States.
      Ankara must be punished severely, but on a sober head. Although they now think it will be difficult to get away from their deeds, even in the eyes of such henpecked US as Germany and France.
      In general, if only there was no such thing:

      Although I really want some of this to happen .. without consequences for our beloved country
    7. PSih2097
      PSih2097 26 November 2015 02: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: Tatiana
      This is to be expected. It is good that the saved navigator is alive and can testify to this in court.
      Erdogan is a high-ranking Turkish raider-bandit, and his methods are gangster. Namely.
      Erdogan, using his official position in Turkey, personally - with abuse of authority on behalf of Turkey - entered the war with Russia in defense of his personal oil raider business in Syria with the participation of ISIS gangs hired by him for this.
      Erdogan not only used his official position in Turkey for his own selfish purposes, but also decided to personally put NATO itself at its service! Cover personally yourself and your personal interests with the “umbrella” of NATO for Turkey!
      Erdogan personally exposed himself as a war criminal in the ranks of NATO!

      On Erdogan ISIS crimes.
      Erdogan under the COURT!

      almost finished prosecutorial (accusatory) speech ...
    8. Retvizan 8
      Retvizan 8 26 November 2015 11: 36 New
      0
      Let’s see what will happen after Putin’s meeting with Hollande.
  2. veksha50
    veksha50 25 November 2015 20: 19 New
    +5
    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
    only at the request of the CIA,I won’t be surprised if American pilots sat at the helm



    Oh, hedgehog-hedgehog ... At the controls of Korean and Vietnamese planes (and Egyptian too) sat obscure Li-Si-Tsy-Ny ...

    And on the opposite side - Amer pilots sat at the controls ... History is developing, a new round has begun, only in a slightly different capacity ...
  3. Morrrow
    Morrrow 25 November 2015 21: 45 New
    +6
    Turks are the thousand-year-old enemy of Russia. What are you talking about? Every Turk dreams of an Empire. Each Turk is a nationalist and panturist.
  4. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 26 November 2015 01: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: hedgehog in the fog
    I think the action was planned and prepared
    only at the request of the CIA, I won’t be surprised if American pilots sat at the helm


    Behind the steering wheel, damn it, the four of them sat and pressed the rebuget pedals. Though it’s like, somehow, you need to find yourself in the subject, at least read the wiki for overclocking, so as not to be in the fog.

    Подлейшая атака в стиле чурок , негодяи конченые . Пилот той лоханки подписал себе приговор , думаю . Помрёт от "сердечного приступа" или от конфеток "СудоплатоФФ" через годик-другой . И не он один , да вот только трубить об этом никто не будет , и правильно . ВСЕ враги Президента(а после Крыма я ассоциирую врагов Путина с врагами России)умирают с пугающим ИХ самих постоянством . Так и должно быть . Точка .
  • 2я19
    2я19 25 November 2015 19: 26 New
    10
    Only one way is to arrange a chance meeting with a Turkish frigate with a mine from the Second World War.
    1. Arh
      Arh 25 November 2015 19: 39 New
      +3
      Sneaky Turks !!!
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 25 November 2015 21: 12 New
        +3
        The vile Turkish leadership, not the people, is first and foremost vile Erdogan.
    2. DDR
      DDR 25 November 2015 19: 50 New
      +6
      Quote: 2я19
      Only one way is to arrange a chance meeting with a Turkish frigate with a mine from the Second World War.

      Ну почему? Можно эрдогану "баночку лимонада" в его самолёт положить am to feel all the charms of free flight wassat
      1. nazar_0753
        nazar_0753 25 November 2015 20: 05 New
        +3
        Tacit agreement of the whole world - do not touch the first persons of the state with attempts
        1. Secta haki
          Secta haki 25 November 2015 20: 26 New
          +8
          Tell that to the Cubans or the Congolese (with their murdered Patrice Lumumba).
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 25 November 2015 20: 48 New
            +5
            nazar_0753
            Tacit agreement of the whole world - do not touch the first persons of the state with attempts
            However, the assassination attempts are still “touched”! The entire colonial political “arrangement” of the West is criminally built on double standards!
            1. sharp-lad
              sharp-lad 26 November 2015 01: 49 New
              +4
              Tady must remember Muammar.
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          3. NordUral
            NordUral 25 November 2015 21: 13 New
            0
            And don't forget Kennedy.
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        4. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 26 November 2015 00: 12 New
          +2
          Quote: nazar_0753
          Tacit agreement of the whole world - do not touch the first persons of the state with attempts

          Only US intelligence agencies do not know about this. They didn’t know about Kennedy yet ... And they didn’t know about Fidel. And about Allende did not guess ...
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  • NordUral
    NordUral 25 November 2015 21: 07 New
    0
    Umbrella rocket.
  • PSih2097
    PSih2097 26 November 2015 02: 45 New
    0
    Quote: krokodil25
    I am interested in the question of how to ensure a sufficient termination of fighters! ?

    a regiment of military air defense with S-300VM and escort of bombers by fighters as was done in World War II ...
  • Yars
    Yars 25 November 2015 18: 59 New
    +7
    Quote: Temples
    Вот для того, что бы не было такого разговора турки разместили боевиков в "нужном" месте.
    В "нужном" месте "случайно" оказались и террористы и "журналисты"
    filming the joy of these freaks.
    Turks are not just supporters of terrorists.
    Turks are the organizers of this outrage.

    that's right, and even at the oil depots lupanuli ISILovksim, where now Erdogan will take cheap oil, the nerves are taken from him ...
    1. Secta haki
      Secta haki 25 November 2015 19: 06 New
      +7
      Rather, he finally broke off with a little mind, and completely lost his fear.
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      1. skifd
        skifd 25 November 2015 20: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: Tatiana
        This is to be expected. It is good that the saved navigator is alive and can testify to this.
        Erdogan is a high-ranking Turkish raider-bandit, and his methods are gangster.
        Namely. Erdogan using his official position in Turkey, personally, in excess of authority on behalf of Turkey, entered the war with Russia in defense of his personal oil raider business in Syria with the complicity of the ISIS gangs hired by him for this. Erdogan not only used his official position in Turkey for personal gain, but also pYeshil personally put in the service of NATO itself! Hide behind the NATO "umbrella"!
        Erdogan personally exposed himself as a war criminal in NATO!
        On Erdogan ISIS crimes.
        Erdogan under the COURT!


        Well, not so simple.
        There are a lot of questions.

        Here is an example:

        Lavrov: Turkish Foreign Ministry did not answer whether the attack on Su was agreed with the United States

        MOSCOW, 25 Nov - RIA News. During a telephone conversation with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov, Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu was unable to answer the question of whether Ankara agreed on actions against the Russian Su-24 with the United States.
        "Я поинтересовался у моего турецкого коллеги, согласовывали ли турки свои действия против российских самолетов с американцами, как с начальниками коалиции, он ничего не смог мне ответить", — сказал Лавров журналистам.




        В переводе с дипломатического : "Это вам эНти KOriveted and EVILe ordered to do ?? !! am Ну-ну ..."
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 25 November 2015 20: 22 New
          +2
          skifd (3)
          Not so simple.
          Right. Agree with you. But it is MANDATORY to act in this direction - and, most importantly, nothing about Erdogan is currently in the way!
          Пентагон, если что, от него отмажется, не будет из-за Эрдогана терять "честь мундира". А вот преступная инициатива Эрдогана налицо! Недаром ближайшее окружение Эрдогана давно уже говорит о его неадекватности.
          Erdogan should be taken for soft spots - and under his COURT! So that other high-ranking bloody business raiders in the hot region were not up to speed!
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        3. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 26 November 2015 01: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: skifd
          В переводе с дипломатического : "Это вам эНти КОрявые и ЗЛЫе приказали сделать ??!!

          I admire Lavrov’s skill to correctly formulate questions!
          did the Turks coordinate their actions against Russian aircraft with the Americans, as with the leaders of the coalition
          Скажет Чувашоглы, что согласовывали - спалит американцев, значит, по их приказу "Сушку" свалили. Скажет, что не согласовывали - так, выходит, они через пень кинули главу своей коалиции, самовольники эдакие... Америке придётся их на место ставить, хотя бы формально.laughing So Chuvashogly has to wipe his nose and sniff like a schoolboy who has not learned the multiplication table ...

          I have long been saying - Lavrov - Minister of Foreign Affairs with a capital letter. Probably the first normal minister after Gromyko ...
  • Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 19: 08 New
    +4
    great comment .. here now a mosaic has gathered in my brain ... it seems I was thinking that the planned action, but still didn’t line up .. everything is true ... there are too many coincidences. Only the last question remains, why all this?
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  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 25 November 2015 19: 20 New
    +9
    Quote: Temples
    В "нужном" месте "случайно" оказались и террористы и "журналисты"

    Поэтому и добивали спускающихся на парашютах летчиков с земли,дабы "концы в воду" бросить.
    Initially, it was clear that this was a diversion. It is important now to ensure the relatively safe operation of our bombers, covering them both from the ground and from the air.
    1. zennon
      zennon 25 November 2015 20: 08 New
      +4
      Quote: NEXUS
      Поэтому и добивали спускающихся на парашютах летчиков с земли,дабы "концы в воду" бросить.

      I wish that the names of our pilots, real men, would not be misinterpreted:
      The navigator of the Su-24 bomber shot down by the Turks Konstantin Mitrokhin told reporters about the attack

      His name is Konstantin Murakhtin. And the commander, Lieutenant Colonel Oleg Peshkov died. The guys served in Lipetsk ...
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 25 November 2015 20: 22 New
        +3
        Quote: zennon
        His name is Konstantin Murakhtin.

        Sorry, my mistake. But I think that in the public media and the Internet it was not worth voicing their names, because they have relatives and friends. hi
        1. zennon
          zennon 25 November 2015 20: 48 New
          +2
          Quote: NEXUS
          Sorry, my mistake.

          Not yours. I didn’t take this passage from your post, but from the main article that we are discussing. As for the names of the commander, the land rest in peace ... The navigator was called the media, but his faces were not shown. hi
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  • fif21
    fif21 25 November 2015 20: 05 New
    +4
    Quote: Temples
    Turks are not just supporters of terrorists. Turks are the organizers of this outrage.

    Добавлю. Турки стягивают танки к границе с Сирией. Возможна наземная операция для защиты "братьев" террористов. Реакции России и Сирии на это пока нет. Пока еще возможно предупредить Эрдогана о последствиях таких действий.(военная интервенция против независимого государства) Провокация с СУ-24 похожа на отвлекающий маневр, цель- нейтрализация Российских ВКС. Турки не допустят закрытие границы с Сирией. hi
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 20: 30 New
      +1
      Something I do not hear (which is strange) howling against Russia (except dill essno), that, like, we ourselves are to blame for violating the air borders of Turkey. This suggests that she was not there. I think the Turks got under the tail of the lyuli from the mattress for their self-will. In theory, now they should shut up and hush up the scandal, and not pull troops to the border with Syria. Nato's campaign is not on their side. Although whoever understands this policy ...
      1. zennon
        zennon 25 November 2015 21: 04 New
        +7
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        I think the Turks got under the tail of the lyuli from the mattress for their self-will.

        Не то слово!В Брюселях не конченые полудурки сидят.Они прекрасно понимают куда чебуреки их втравить могут!Сейчас смотрел по ящику наглийский парламент-там дебаты по этому поводу.Если честно,то не удивился даже а при..ел!Лейборист правда но ихнему министру забугорных дел задвигает:"А вы понимаете,что турция лишняя в нате.НАТА может быть втянута в войну с Россией,которая истребляет ИГИЛ.А турки осуществляют воздушное прикрытие терористов,да ещё нефть по дешёвке отжимают,ну и террористов спонсируют"?В наглийском парламенте,сегодня.Сам видел!!!
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 21: 08 New
          +1
          Wow !!! Interesting!
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        3. twviewer
          twviewer 25 November 2015 21: 50 New
          +1
          Quote: zennon
          In the Nagly parliament today. I saw it myself !!!

          what channel is this? curious to see
          1. zennon
            zennon 25 November 2015 22: 30 New
            +3
            Quote: twviewer
            what channel is this? curious to see

            Yes, it was our news cut. The truth was that the opposition laborer was broadcasting, and Cameron harnessed for the chebureks, they say white and fluffy. The truth with the symbolic reservations, they have to figure it out to the end. The mole is still not clear, but the Turks are still good. The base for the mattress was provided by, well, spitting fighters with terrorists!
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 25 November 2015 21: 16 New
      +3
      The Germans also did not let ours into Berlin. Passed by.
    3. PSih2097
      PSih2097 26 November 2015 02: 52 New
      0
      Quote: fif21
      Turks pull tanks to the border with Syria.

      cover with tornadoes in the 4th layer ... plus at the border make sowing of minefields.
    4. trantor
      trantor 26 November 2015 06: 03 New
      0
      Quote: fif21
      The provocation with the SU-24 is like a distraction, the goal is to neutralize the Russian airborne forces.

      I do not think that they are so stupid people to hope so. Moreover, substituting with intervention is the planned suicide. At least for those forces that cross the border.
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  • veksha50
    veksha50 25 November 2015 20: 16 New
    +4
    Quote: Temples
    Turks are not just supporters of terrorists.
    Turks are the organizers of this outrage.



    Honestly, reading the news and comments on them, the second day I never cease to be surprised ...

    Well, of course, a provocation ... This opinion was expressed yesterday by one of the pilots of our contingent in Syria ...

    Well, it’s clear ... The day before (and before that, also in days 4-5) Putin directly named the main financiers of the Islamic State - Qatar, SA and Turkey at the G20 summit and in Tehran ... Open (!!!) ... Moreover, he threatened precisely these three ...

    Well, our son Erdogan was deprived of free oil ... Well, it turns out, as it were, help from our side to the same Kurds ... Clearly, unpleasantly ...

    BUT (!!!) - even because of this put the world on the brink of a third world war?

    I even admit that our Su-24 overtook Turkey’s airspace ... What our navigator, the Defense Ministry and the Foreign Ministry say is normal, they say the topic, anyway ...

    But - I repeat - even hooked the space - is that a reason for shooting to kill ???

    Here today at VO, someone quite rightly brought Erdogan’s expression about the violation by combat aircraft of the edge of the airspace of neighboring states ... So there HE, Erdogan, personally spoke out that this was not a reason for destroying the aircraft and crew ...

    And how do you understand all this ??? If the United States (NATO) is so eager to break Russia, then why is it looking for such stupid reasons to unleash a third world ???

    Trying to explain themselves to their peoples and voters ??? So after being untied, no one will be explained to anyone !!!

    Hatred of Russia has melted the brain of many politicians, otherwise you cannot explain what is happening in the world now ...
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 20: 37 New
      +2
      Either the Communist Party, or there was an article where the Greeks indicated how many times they recorded violation of their air borders by the Turks - more than 1000 times a year (I don’t remember the detailed numbers). So they said that if they shot down every time about this - Turkey would not have military aviation.
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 25 November 2015 21: 18 New
      +3
      And almost the entire western (mainly Anglo-Saxon) world has gone crazy, is that still not clear?
  • aleshka
    aleshka 25 November 2015 21: 39 New
    +2
    the Turks had to crush for Ichkeria! so no, partners!
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  • Sterlya
    Sterlya 25 November 2015 18: 48 New
    +9
    Quote: Baikonur
    Also, there is already evidence that the Turkish Air Force has long collected data on our routes and flight times. And at this time their samzik ​​always paced, waiting for the moment!

    Everywhere they collected all the data. And given this plane alone, without any cover. Without means of warning about a missile attack (and I thought in my own way that in our time all combat aircraft are equipped with such systems)
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 25 November 2015 20: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: Sterlya
      Without means of warning about a missile attack (and I thought in my own way that in our time, all military aircraft are equipped with such systems)



      I’m not a specialist, just 43 of a year ago, while still in military service, I was an aviation mechanic in armament ...

      Ancient, MTP - please respond ...

      In my opinion, now in any country, on any combat aircraft, these systems are installed ... But can an attack aircraft, or rather, its crew, react in some seconds to a fighter attack, take some sort of counter-maneuver ...
      Suddenly they attack the attack aircraft without cover ... Well, the system informed about the missile attack ... He is still an attack aircraft, not a fighter ...

      If I'm wrong in something - correct, please ...
      1. NordUral
        NordUral 25 November 2015 21: 22 New
        +6
        Our guys relaxed a bit. Yes, and did not expect such a trick. And this is the fault of the higher commanders, but, as I think, they will draw conclusions and take action.
        In my opinion, a simple techie is to close the sky in this area and shoot down everything that flies. And the West should be warned - either we are fighting along with Isil, or do not poke into the zone of the closed sky.
        1. Uncle lee
          Uncle lee 26 November 2015 04: 17 New
          +7
          "Well, if you know where the arrow is from,
          хуже, если по подлому, из-за угла!"

          V.S.
      2. arane
        arane 25 November 2015 23: 05 New
        +1
        Quote: veksha50
        Quote: Sterlya
        Without means of warning about a missile attack (and I thought in my own way that in our time, all military aircraft are equipped with such systems)



        I’m not a specialist, just 43 of a year ago, while still in military service, I was an aviation mechanic in armament ...

        Ancient, MTP - please respond ...

        In my opinion, now in any country, on any combat aircraft, these systems are installed ... But can an attack aircraft, or rather, its crew, react in some seconds to a fighter attack, take some sort of counter-maneuver ...
        Suddenly they attack the attack aircraft without cover ... Well, the system informed about the missile attack ... He is still an attack aircraft, not a fighter ...

        If I'm wrong in something - correct, please ...


        I do not belong to air defense, but I can assume. The air-to-air missile, which was used, has a thermal seeker, it is passive and is aimed at the thermal emission of the engine. This rocket does not radiate anything. Therefore, it cannot be detected by any systems. Su could only detect the operation of the Turkish airborne radar. But they could get used to it already.
        Short-range missile. It can be detected visually, if it gets into the eye, and, possibly, the airborne radar. But are there any such systems on SU-24 a question for specialists. I dont know
      3. Manul
        Manul 26 November 2015 02: 05 New
        0
        Quote: veksha50
        I’m not a specialist, just 43 of a year ago, while still in military service, I was an aviation mechanic in armament ...

        Ancient, MTP - please respond ...

        In my opinion, now in any country, on any combat aircraft, these systems are installed ... But can an attack aircraft, or rather, its crew, react in some seconds to a fighter attack, take some sort of counter-maneuver ...
        Suddenly they attack the attack aircraft without cover ... Well, the system informed about the missile attack ... He is still an attack aircraft, not a fighter ...

        And I have the same question .. Are there really no missile attack warning systems on modern (though outdated, but still modernized) Su-24s? Should there be thermal traps? And then the chance for a missile defense maneuver should remain .. It is clear that everything is unexpected .. Our enemies could take everything into account. Even the response time of warning systems. And some new systems themselves could experience.
  • Rus2012
    Rus2012 25 November 2015 18: 56 New
    86
    Quote: Baikonur
    Вчера Один заслуженныи лётчик объяснял термин "воздушная засада" и сказал, что это она и была!


    To the death of the Heroes! Commander and Marine ...
    Eternal flight and land in peace ...


    Heaven suddenly turned into hell for me
    A traitorous blow from around the corner ...
    I am a plane with the soul of man
    With special wing geometry.

    When they beat in the back, they know - they will not miss,
    What are the vulnerabilities ...
    And the pain that started somewhere in the fuselage,
    It pierces from the cab to the tail.

    What the hell is going on in this world ?!
    Do not see me through the fire and smoke.
    I'm not Charlie, I'm Su-Xnumx
    And where are the tablets with my name?

    Pique will tighten ... Dizziness
    Shuffles everything into a kaleidoscope.
    I have not been given a chance to escape
    I meet the inevitable directly in the forehead.

    Earth will embrace to take forever
    My recorder let him cover the darkness.
    I am a plane with the soul of man
    With special wing geometry.

    © Sergey Efimov
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 19: 12 New
      +9
      yes I applaud while standing !!!!
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    3. Alexvl
      Alexvl 25 November 2015 19: 23 New
      +7
      Awesome !!!
    4. Junior, I
      Junior, I 25 November 2015 19: 48 New
      +5
      He takes for the soul, a cool verse!
    5. FiremamRescueS
      FiremamRescueS 25 November 2015 20: 41 New
      +6
      Браво! Очень, очень хорошо и красиво написано. В памяти тут же всплыла песня Высоцкого: " Истребитель". Так же душевно.
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 21: 06 New
        +1
        just yesterday she also threw it on the forum when discussing)))
      2. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 21: 06 New
        0
        just yesterday she also threw it on the forum when discussing)))
    6. veksha50
      veksha50 25 November 2015 20: 51 New
      +8
      Quote: Rus2012
      To the death of the Heroes!


      By God, somewhere on the stove, the cross of their graves, you need to attach this poem ... I think they will not mind ...

      PS Thank you for the verses, Rus2012, just something with my heart became a little bad, clamped ...
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 25 November 2015 23: 15 New
        +2
        Just crying ...
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  • YARUSSIAN39
    YARUSSIAN39 25 November 2015 19: 33 New
    12
    Так же , "Главный свидетель" сказал в интервью , что после лечения хочет остаться служить с Сирии , т.к ему надо вернуть должок за командира
    http://news.rambler.ru/politics/32019344/
  • stroybat ZABVO
    stroybat ZABVO 25 November 2015 19: 51 New
    +5
    to find, bring down a Turk, not to take prisoner. everything.http: //topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/587/btmc366.jpg
  • Inok10
    Inok10 25 November 2015 20: 27 New
    +7
    Quote: Baikonur
    Death - HERdognide!

    ..and welcome the Turks to the no-fly zone .. it was scribbled on my knee on September 7th after the news of the possible appearance in Jeble of our full-fledged Air Force / Navy base .. they themselves asked for it ... and even big greetings to the Israeli falcons and Jordan .. yes , and the Anglican Air Force base in Cyprus .. Since 400 is not joking .. wink
    1. figwam
      figwam 25 November 2015 22: 17 New
      11
      But the guys accidentally wandered into the mountains, accidentally took equipment and accidentally took off the fall of the SU-24M.
      1. perm23
        perm23 26 November 2015 06: 59 New
        +1
        It would be nice if in the next trip to the mountains, we accidentally meet a bear and die of fear.
  • 44 World
    44 World 25 November 2015 21: 56 New
    +6
    They have not yet seen our ordinary family photo shoots in nature, after that they will definitely do it !!!
  • ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 25 November 2015 22: 12 New
    +9


    Something on Channel One does not show this. Censorship however. But the center of the wino in Yekaterinburg was opened and participants in the Bialowieza agreements were invited !!! Well, not with ..ki ???
  • Retvizan 8
    Retvizan 8 26 November 2015 11: 30 New
    0
    I really wanted to make a trick, but could not execute without jambs. Even the plane was shot down on foreign territory.
    This is a specific mess, even the Americans do not allow themselves!
    And NATO immediately tried to sign! Erdogan mega under _onok!
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  • Dad Uassia
    Dad Uassia 25 November 2015 18: 41 New
    +2
    Quote: sannych
    But what about 10 warnings in 8 seconds? They lie, the Janissaries are bad.

    Warnings are given when you are already at a distance of 10 km from the border.
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 25 November 2015 19: 00 New
      +5
      Цитата: Батя Уасся
      Warnings are given when you are already at a distance of 10 km from the border.

      At a speed of 720 km / h in 5 minutes the plane will fly 60 km.
  • vovanpain
    vovanpain 25 November 2015 18: 47 New
    39
    Quote: sannych
    They lie, the Janissaries are bad.

    Of course they’re lying.
    1. DDR
      DDR 25 November 2015 20: 04 New
      +5
      Quote: vovanpain
      Quote: sannych
      They lie, the Janissaries are bad.
      Of course they’re lying.

      Question! Is it possible to make this photo a background picture of a target?
      I think the performance of fire training will increase significantly laughing
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 25 November 2015 18: 59 New
    +6
    Думаю, Константина Митрохина можно и нужно по выздоровлению пересадить на Су-35. С тем, чтоб он смог вернуть "должок" за командира известной стороне с процентами! am
    1. jPilot
      jPilot 25 November 2015 19: 54 New
      12
      К сожалению Константин не сможет пилотировать Су-35, по той простой причине, что он "чистый" штурман а не пилот. И его жизнь это реально ЧУДО, и "косяк" для исполнителей этого грязного заказа. Потому боевики и пытались их уничтожить в воздухе, а не взять живьём, чтобы поглумиться перед камерой.
      Judging by the fact that the Turks immediately rushed to consult with NATO, the campaign acted at their own risk, and probably grew weary of the fact that the Americans immediately disowned them and sharp statements from other countries followed.
      To the commander and marines, rest in peace, condolences to families, these are real HEROES.
      1. lockout
        lockout 25 November 2015 21: 38 New
        +2
        Where have you seen harsh statements from other countries? I just saw Obama actually approving.
  • ramzes1776
    ramzes1776 25 November 2015 22: 08 New
    +1
    [media = http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = 1XQHmOThj70

    Something on channel 1 does not show this!
  • Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 25 November 2015 18: 34 New
    19
    so that they can walk up to 34m and a pancake with full BK and electronic warfare.
    Damn, I didn’t expect from the Turks, I understood that the scores with the Kurds were being reduced, it seems that the legacy of the empire was so mean in the back .... The Janissaries forgot the campaign as they were raking in the Kuban ...
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 25 November 2015 19: 09 New
      +4
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      so that they can walk up to 34m and a pancake with full BK and electronic warfare.
      Damn, I didn’t expect from the Turks, I understood that the scores with the Kurds were being reduced, it seems that the legacy of the empire was so mean in the back .... The Janissaries forgot the campaign as they were raking in the Kuban ...

      In Crimea, they raked even cooler! There even a Turkish military cemetery has remained since those times.
      1. andj61
        andj61 25 November 2015 20: 03 New
        +6
        Quote: GSH-18
        In Crimea, they raked even cooler! There even a Turkish military cemetery has remained since those times.

        There are both English and French cemeteries ... yes
        1. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 25 November 2015 21: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: andj61
          There are both English and French cemeteries.

          But Ukrainian is not there!
    2. NordUral
      NordUral 25 November 2015 21: 27 New
      +1
      And they also have McCain complexes, all the poor fellows are tormented by departed greatness.
  • 79807420129
    79807420129 25 November 2015 18: 35 New
    25
    The navigator of health and happiness, a real Russian man. And Erdogan is an ordinary black man and coward, the count is waiting for his hero.
    1. Vend
      Vend 25 November 2015 18: 40 New
      +9
      Here is a living witness. What a bummer about the Turks. How will they get out now?
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 25 November 2015 18: 44 New
    16
    Соловьев: в расстреле участвовали группировка "Серые волки", а полевой командир в репортаже является сыном мэра турецкого города.
    1. edmed
      edmed 25 November 2015 19: 26 New
      +3
      У " Кассада" по этому поводу рассклад,так что, Эрдоган не просто напрягался про "братьев".
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 25 November 2015 19: 47 New
        +3
        Ну нам остаётся весь этот район с "братьями"накрыть чем нибудь ядрёным...
        Quote: edmed
        У " Кассада" по этому поводу рассклад,так что, Эрдоган не просто напрягался про "братьев".
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    3. myasoed
      myasoed 25 November 2015 19: 50 New
      12
      Alpaslan Celik But in reality, he is not a Turkman, but a real Turk, originally from the city of Keban in the province of Elazig. He poses for Reuters reporters with the details of a parachute in his hands.
      1. Manul
        Manul 26 November 2015 02: 13 New
        +1
        Quote: myasoed
        Alpaslan Celik

        I will be glad if he runs into a bullet from my machine gun. (He pulled out a soldier, blew the dust from him) I’m glad for the others as well.
        Erase all this trash from the face of the earth.
  • vodolaz
    vodolaz 25 November 2015 18: 45 New
    +8
    Yes, who would doubt it. In addition, it was too convenient for the operators to be located at the crash site. Fell them all, including the moderate type.
  • Samaritan
    Samaritan 25 November 2015 18: 47 New
    24
    Self Video:
    1. Oleg16661
      Oleg16661 25 November 2015 19: 20 New
      13
      People, you can blame me to the gray general, but it seems to me that he reads the answers on a piece of paper. Bent right hand and constant head down movements. Yes, and the speech itself is some ragged. Remember how they themselves at school answered an unlearned subject, peeping into a notebook. They could hurt in the hand, but in conjunction with everything else ...
      I am very happy for him that he returned from there alive. And congratulations on the order. I hope that he will be honored to drop a couple of tons of bombs on the heads of those freaks who shot his commander.
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 19: 31 New
        0
        Listen, I just printed my comment and sent it, looked at yours, we’re word for word ...
        1. Oleg16661
          Oleg16661 25 November 2015 19: 43 New
          +3
          As they say, fools converge thoughts drinks
          1. Dr. Bormental
            Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 19: 50 New
            +3
            I wanted to write the same thing))) drinks
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      2. AID.S
        AID.S 25 November 2015 20: 11 New
        +4
        When it seems, it is necessary to be baptized, and not to compare the navigator with a dropout schoolchild.
        1. Oleg16661
          Oleg16661 25 November 2015 21: 11 New
          -1
          When I need to be baptized, and when not, I will decide for myself, and without instructions from someone with the nickname AID.S.
          As for comparing the navigator with the student. Read my comment again, please. I asked READERS of this article to recall MYSELF in my school years. For some reason, everyone understood this, except for you.
          1. AID.S
            AID.S 25 November 2015 22: 23 New
            -2
            К сожалению Вы перепутали и приняли русскую поговорку за мое Вам указание.А теперь скажите, зачем Вы написали "Народ, можете меня заминусовать до серого генерала, но мне кажется, что он читает ответы по бумажке"? Постебаться над боевым офицером? Над министерством обороны? А Вам не показалось, что это было неуместно?
      3. Anton56
        Anton56 25 November 2015 20: 39 New
        +3
        In his position, you must carefully monitor the words. He is not a speaker, but a navigator. Although a man was prepared for everything, it is a great stress. What bothers you? hidden face, mutated voice? No need to advertise this - a hunt has been declared for a person, he is the only living witness to this crime
        1. Oleg16661
          Oleg16661 25 November 2015 21: 02 New
          +4
          Neither his face, which is not visible, nor his voice confuse me. It would be embarrassing if all this was not there and he stood facing the camera and called himself.
          It’s just that the attitude towards the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation lately has, at least, turned out to be a very serious organization. And here it is. It seems not a jamb, but a flaw. An unpleasant residue remained, frankly.
          1. Starik72
            Starik72 25 November 2015 22: 34 New
            +2
            Oleg. And how would you look and answer questions if you were in such a situation and miraculously survived ???
      4. NordUral
        NordUral 25 November 2015 21: 34 New
        +2
        I will not minus you, but I thought, but how would I feel in a situation where I myself miraculously escaped death, like a pilot and a marine. And not everyone knows how to give an interview, he could even sketch it out so that the unrest would not hinder to say.
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    2. orphan 63
      orphan 63 25 November 2015 19: 23 New
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      Details:

      Турки несколько дней "ловили" российские самолёты. При взлёте наших самолётов турки тут же поднимали свои, и при подходе наших ИБ к району боевых действий в воздухе постоянно находилось от четырёх до шести турецких F-16. Несколько раз турецкое командование выводило ближайшую к границе пару на рубеж атаки, но на подлёте к нему возвращало назад, объясняя эти действия "сопровождением" иностранных самолётов. Вчера пара турецких истр*бителей начала перехват российского истр*бителя-бомбардировщика ещё до приближения его к границе Турции и находилась в позиции для атаки фактически в момент его подлёта к цели, когда ИБ выполнял вираж вдоль границы с Турцией, заходя на цель. То есть, фактически находилась в засаде в готовности к перехвату. В этот момент российский истр*битель-бомбардировщик выполнял вираж вдоль границы Сирии и Турции, находясь в воздушном прострастве Сирии в трёх километрах от границы. И с расстояния четырёх километров, под ракурсом в три четверти наш Су-24 был сбит в заднюю полусферу ракетой с ИКГСН "Сайдвиндер", при этом пуск ракеты осуществлялся фактически над границей Турции и Сирии, после чего турецкий F-16 вторгся в воздушное пространство Сирии минимум на четыре километра. Ракета попала в двигатель, оба лётчика катапультировались. Командир экипажа подполковник Олег Пешков был расстрелян исламистами в воздухе и приземлился уже мёртвым. Его тело было обнаружено и захвачено боевиками.
      The navigator pilot, captain Konstantin Murakhtin, survived and was able to land successfully. Landing occurred on the forest slope of the mountain. This gave him a small head start and he was able to escape from the landing site to the approach of the Islamist capture group. Throughout the day, militant units combed the area in search of a Russian pilot, but could not find it. The pilot constantly moved and disguised himself. With the onset of darkness, the pilot contacted the emergency radio station and let him know that he was alive and indicated his whereabouts. It is interesting that almost immediately in the area where the pilot was hiding, a column of militants went from the nearest village and began an active radio exchange, which indicates that Turkish interceptors immediately transmitted information about the pilot's whereabouts to the militants.
      With the onset of darkness, several of our PSS special forces groups advanced into the area, as well as Syrian special forces operating in this area. At about twenty-three hours, the pilot was met by Syrian special forces located in the rear of the militants, and by two o'clock in the night he was taken to the territory controlled by the Syrian army, and at three o'clock in the morning he was delivered to the Khmeimim base.

      То, что смог сделать наш лётчик иначе чем подвигом не назовёшь! Десять часов уходить от погони жаждущего крови шакалья - это что-то запредельное! От всей души поздравляю всех причастных к этой операции! Это настоящая "жемчужина" в короне славы Российской Армии!

      http://shurigin.livejournal.com/684657.html
    3. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 19: 29 New
      +4
      Все понимаю, заминусуете, но вопрос спрошу -вам не кажется, что он читает по бумаге текст? Правая рука вниз на всем видео не опускается, и фраза "да и ракета пришла" звучит как при чтении сочинения в школе. Еще не понравилось - журналисты как школьники четко по порядку, без суеты, без их обычных эмоций задают вопросы. Как то выглядит отрепетированным все это.
      I’ll make a reservation right away - I’m not a holor and not a provocateur, I just expressed what seemed strange.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 25 November 2015 19: 51 New
        +7
        If on a piece of paper, then this is not to say too much.
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 20: 19 New
          +6
          Yes, I understand everything. Because of their crew, the 3rd World War could begin. I would have said, in the place of this pilot, I would have stuttered, and not just read a piece of paper. Out of such a meat grinder, honor him and praise. Sorry for the commander. These guys are heroes, what can I say.
        2. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 20: 19 New
          +1
          Yes, I understand everything. Because of their crew, the 3rd World War could begin. I would have said, in the place of this pilot, I would have stuttered, and not just read a piece of paper. Out of such a meat grinder, honor him and praise. Sorry for the commander. These guys are heroes, what can I say.
      2. DDR
        DDR 25 November 2015 20: 20 New
        +5
        Quote: Dr. Bormental
        I understand everything, zamusuemuete, but I ask the question, do not you think that he is reading text on paper?

        Ivan! And didn’t you think that a MAN came back from almost the next world? And he is not a journalist in order to speak smoothly (without a mat). hi
        1. Dr. Bormental
          Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 20: 46 New
          +3
          That's right you say. I just decided to share what seemed unnatural to me. In my opinion, there was no need to torture the guy, would they take an audio interview or whatever else. I would lie back in the hospital, heal .. then you can already video. I am not an Indian Hawkeye, but I and Oleg 16661 with a difference of 9 minutes at the same time commented on this. I’m afraid that foreign media will be tougher in their remarks about this video ...
          1. perm23
            perm23 26 November 2015 07: 09 New
            0
            Yes to us that. How much can you look back at others. When you have sex with your wife, you also look back, and as there are neighbors, I’m doing everything right, how they look at it. Spit on these Western media. You never know what they write. To us what is from this. Tired of looking around and looking all the time, and what they say. We are generally not in Russia,
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      3. perm23
        perm23 26 November 2015 07: 06 New
        0
        And what follows from this. What is your question. AND
    4. Zefr
      Zefr 25 November 2015 20: 53 New
      -2
      Somehow he is talking weirdly. As an actor in the series. Constructed phrases, pauses ... Is it like a navigator, or did they throw the actor to journalists?
      1. a housewife
        a housewife 25 November 2015 23: 36 New
        +1
        If you carefully watch the interviews of the military or the police, those that do not flicker on television, but for some reason are forced to speak into the microphone and speak to the camera - everyone speaks the same way. That is, an ordinary clip in front of the camera: some cannot say a word without a hitch, and even say it right, but without stuttering, not saying too much and forget nothing. I have to write text on paper. Now, if he told too smoothly, in detail and colorfully - one would suspect that he was fake. And what the journalists asked so calmly and in order - so surely the 20th is already a double.
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      3. perm23
        perm23 26 November 2015 07: 11 New
        +1
        Well another one came up. Everyone looks at the sky, and this one immediately into the bin. And from there peeps and stinks.
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 25 November 2015 18: 52 New
    12
    “In fact, there were no warnings. Neither by radio, nor visually.

    There is an irresistible desire to shamarn on Erdogan’s arrogant deceitful erysipelas from all over, so that the sccyka in the air turns over twice! am
    1. opus
      opus 25 November 2015 19: 16 New
      14
      Quote: GSH-18
      There is an irresistible desire to shamarn on Erdogan’s arrogant deceitful erysipelas from all over, so that the sccyka in the air turns over twice!

      why only Erdogan?
      Turks rams stupidly used (as well as a jumping flock of kaklov). The main ones are not


      Farewell of the Slav - for




      (жаль цензура-музыка не пропустила слова А.Краско,хотя "сурдоперевод" в принципе понятен)

      the impression is that the creators of the film in 2015 visited .... good
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 19: 45 New
        +3
        Have you read A. Pokrovsky? If you didn’t read it, then read, there is this sign language translation in our Russian. Although I'm sure I read smile
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 25 November 2015 19: 51 New
          +3
          Did you read A. Pokrovsky.
          ---------------------------------Жалко что немногие здесь знают этого" морского Зощенко"
          1. Dr. Bormental
            Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 21: 02 New
            +3
            I love Pokrovsky. I really laughed to cramps over the funny and really cried over the sad. A classmate married a submariner, moved to Severodvinsk. So there Pokrovsky is simply quoted)))) Everything, says the truth)))
          2. Dr. Bormental
            Dr. Bormental 25 November 2015 21: 02 New
            0
            I love Pokrovsky. I really laughed to cramps over the funny and really cried over the sad. A classmate married a submariner, moved to Severodvinsk. So there Pokrovsky is simply quoted)))) Everything, says the truth)))
        2. Captain45
          Captain45 25 November 2015 21: 06 New
          +3
          Quote: Dr. Bormental
          Have you read A. Pokrovsky?

          Quote: guzik007
          Жалко что немногие здесь знают этого" морского Зощенко"

          Читали и не только А.Покровского,но и серию "Покровский и братья На море..На суше...И выше". Классная серия,жаль у меня только 7 книг из 13,остальные пропали из продаж.Кто не знает, в серии "Покровский и братья"сборники рассказов не только А.Покровского,но и всех,кто служил на море,на суше и выше,а также работал на оборонку.В основном истории из жизни,иногда такие хохмы попадаются,что сосед на ржач прибегает поинтересоваться.
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 26 November 2015 03: 14 New
            0
            Quote: Captain45
            Pokrovsky and the brothers

            buy ...
            http://www.morkniga.ru/r218-800851-1.html
    2. 34 region
      34 region 25 November 2015 19: 54 New
      +1
      Here everyone has such a desire. But we are polite people. We will not beat the muzzle. But if you flood a tanker with oil in the port, it would be nice.
  • 3axap82
    3axap82 25 November 2015 18: 56 New
    +3
    Are you seriously? How could they think that there would be no witnesses if the territory is under the radar? In addition, they said that they shot down our plane.
    And yet, a provocation is only a provocation when the culprit does not hide and provokes the response.
    1. Darkoff
      Darkoff 25 November 2015 19: 10 New
      +3
      And the culprit neither hides nor apologizes. Says: I did everything right.
  • Mujahiddin777
    Mujahiddin777 25 November 2015 19: 19 New
    +2
    Once again, our proved that we DO NOT THROW OURS !!!
    And for PODLYANKA NATO shafki will pay dearly ...
  • papas-57
    papas-57 25 November 2015 19: 30 New
    +9
    Меня удивляет другое. Последние год-два столько шуму было на ТВ и в СМИ о наших новинках радиоэлектронной борьбы, что даже слепые и глухие об этом знают. Эти новинки глушат радары противника, вырубают всю электронику, уводят в сторону самонаводящиеся ракеты противника и бла, бла, бла. В общем чудо-оружие. Идёт военная операция в Сирии и турки валят наш самолёт. Вопрос: где эти чудо-новинки? Почему они не применяются в Сирии? Или как обычно, сделали для показухи в единственном экземпляре, получили ордена, медали, премии и забыли. И кроме турок за сбитые самолёт и вертолёт, смерть лётчика и морпеха должны ответить наши раз..здяи, которые не доставили в Сирию или не установили на летательные аппараты эти новинки, кто разрешил летать на задания без этих новинок и без прикрытия истребителей. Когда у нас исчезнет бардак в головах руководителей и надежда на русское ''АВОСЬ''?
  • OlegLex
    OlegLex 25 November 2015 19: 38 New
    +2
    What provocation are you talking about? Any provocation pursues specific goals, for example, to frighten a warning, to put it in an uncomfortable position, and thereby force it to do what is intended. This was not here. I have the impression that even Ankara itself did not expect this, otherwise Erdogan would not have pulled from a low start to get consultations at NATO headquarters, Remember the plane shot down by Khokhlov in the sky of Donbas, the wreckage had not yet fallen, and the whole world was yelling that it made Russia. And here everything is quiet (and who is not quiet) fucked up, hence such slurred statements like oh, yesterday, in fact, the whole world froze for a while in horror, so this is not an ordinary event.
    We will take revenge, I have no doubt about it, the main thing is that revenge would be with a cold head.
  • GRAMARI111
    GRAMARI111 25 November 2015 19: 51 New
    +5
    Очередная "заказуха" от Госдепа США теперь Турции
  • Blondy
    Blondy 25 November 2015 20: 03 New
    +1
    In general, it’s not figs for you, but figs for us - the classic casus belli. It seems that the straits to the Turks were already redundant.
  • RUS96
    RUS96 25 November 2015 21: 37 New
    +1
    Video....................
  • VoronoNoK
    VoronoNoK 26 November 2015 01: 13 New
    +1
    Heaven suddenly turned into hell for me

    A traitorous blow from around the corner ...

    I am a plane with the soul of man

    With special wing geometry.



    When they beat in the back, they know - they will not miss,

    What are the vulnerabilities ...

    And the pain that started somewhere in the fuselage,

    It pierces from the cab to the tail.



    What the hell is going on in this world ?!

    Do not see me through the fire and smoke.

    I'm not Charlie, I'm Su-Xnumx

    And where are the tablets with my name?



    Pique will tighten ... Dizziness

    Shuffles everything into a kaleidoscope.

    I have not been given a chance to escape

    I meet the inevitable directly in the forehead.



    Earth will embrace to take forever

    My recorder let him cover the darkness.

    I am a plane with the soul of man

    With special wing geometry.


    http://omiliya.org/article/ya-ne-sharli-ya-su-24-sergey-efimov
    1. Lieutenant colonel
      Lieutenant colonel 26 November 2015 02: 06 New
      +1
      I ask permission to copy your text for yourself. To remember !!!
  • veteran66
    veteran66 25 November 2015 18: 26 New
    26
    The Turks, as always, hit in the back, both figuratively and literally. Bastards !!! Never were friends and never will be.
    1. Garris199
      Garris199 25 November 2015 18: 29 New
      23
      Cowardly jackals immediately ran into NATO, and there the Erdoganisch passage was met to put it mildly cool, and some European countries were generally so negative. This is clearly not the kind of reaction that Turkey expected. Erdoganisch missed and badly spoiled his karma. Although Turkey is a NATO member, Erdogan has been grinning a tooth from the same amers for a long time and the current situation is being used against him with great willingness. Do not be a sultan to this idiot.
      1. KG_patriot_last
        KG_patriot_last 25 November 2015 19: 10 New
        -3
        Now after a day, a little cooling can already be answered.

        1) Military measures:
        - Bombing with tactical nuclear weapons (with a short decay time) roads / passes of these mountains, villages in general along the border. Naturally, with the consent of official Syria, as well as pre-warning civilians in 24 hours and providing corridors. So the issues of closing borders, as well as the issue of terrorists, are solved. The effect and evidence of hints will be crystal-clear and sobering for all who are members of NATO and are not afraid of Russia because of this. Perhaps even some will stop aiming there.
        - Closing the airspace unilaterally over the provinces of Aleppo, Idleb, Latakia. Raqqu and Hasaku leave for the US coalition. Naturally, also with the consent of Syria and with them.

        2) Economic measures:
        - About the grief of tourists who just did not write. What did they not see in Turkey - year after year? Introduce a visa regime with them to prohibit the work of tour operators in the direction of Turkey.
        - The gas pipeline there is initially a dead project. From there, over time, for any Iran / Qatar / Azerbaijan they would be ousted - there is too much competition. Gas is generally universal, unlike oil - you can hold it - there will always be a buyer when other countries have been blown away through 50 for years.
        - If there is enough money for the CIS, they need to be squeezed out of all CSTO / CU countries.
        1. SIvan
          SIvan 25 November 2015 20: 36 New
          +4
          Instead of tactical nuclear weapons it is necessary to use ODAB. Drive the Tu-22M3 squadron there, to the eyeballs of the filled ODAB-500 and level these villages. Even one such bomb is quite powerful, and if there is a lot, even considering the imposition of shock waves ...
          Of course, the Tu-22M3 must be covered with fighters.
          1. KG_patriot_last
            KG_patriot_last 25 November 2015 21: 11 New
            +2
            After ODAB, you can also climb those mountains. And after the low-power charges of thiao, only the sick or those in the tank will ride there.

            And I did not say anything about revenge. You just need to do this so that this does not happen anywhere else.
    2. Patriot2012
      Patriot2012 25 November 2015 20: 09 New
      +3
      Yes, throughout history, we constantly fought with Turkey, how it can become our friend, I don’t understand, and laying a gas pipe to the Turks is nonsense, the project is not designed for the long term
      Turks - our enemies - were, are and will be.
  • alekc73
    alekc73 25 November 2015 18: 29 New
    +6
    There was an ambush. Caught our
  • wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 25 November 2015 18: 29 New
    +5
    the Turks forgot how in the battle of sarakamysh General Yudenich drove them to the very trapezund
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 25 November 2015 18: 29 New
    +3
    Really like natural Westernists. Launched a rocket in the back and that’s it! Only such a joke in the war does not pass.
  • gukoyan
    gukoyan 25 November 2015 18: 29 New
    +2
    Strange, our plane was not equipped with an LTC? And why flew without the SUV-30?
    1. Fregate
      Fregate 25 November 2015 19: 02 New
      +5
      Obviously, because there are 16 bombers and 12 attack aircraft, 4 Su-30s. And the LTC probably was there, but they did not know that they were being attacked. There was no attack warning station.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 25 November 2015 19: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: gukoyan
      And why flew without the SUV-30?

      By the fact that they have been flying there one at a time, to increase efficiency. The Barmalei didn’t have an air defense system, and no one could have thought of a tart from the Turks! Well they shouted that our friends are forever!
  • ALEXX.
    ALEXX. 25 November 2015 18: 30 New
    +6
    Turks always acted from under the silence
    1. Garris199
      Garris199 25 November 2015 18: 32 New
      +2
      Yeah, and decided to fight with Russia only feeling the support of other states. However, this did not help them.
  • Terrible_L.
    Terrible_L. 25 November 2015 18: 30 New
    +4
    how meanly, in the back, behind. shame
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    2. yushch
      yushch 25 November 2015 18: 53 New
      +5
      Quote: Scary_L.
      how meanly, in the back, behind. shame

      Unfortunately, the time of knightly battles remained in the distant past. The same Erich Hartman wrote about his favorite tactic of an attack from the clouds.
      1. Sultan Babai
        Sultan Babai 26 November 2015 00: 14 New
        0
        The Turks never had honest fights, they are not Samurai for you ...
  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 25 November 2015 18: 30 New
    +4
    In the best traditions of a cowardly gopota ...
  • Mobidic
    Mobidic 25 November 2015 18: 31 New
    +5
    Today, Putin, leaving the rink in Nizhny Tagil, tossed a bunch of keys in his hand. One can see something on the mind, it’s up to.
  • meriem1
    meriem1 25 November 2015 18: 31 New
    +9
    Now let the Turks cross the border now! They shot at ours? They shot. Can we believe them? Not! Shoot down! No regrets !!!! Our pilots must be alive. They will return to the Wives and hug their children. Not We started it.
  • Belarus
    Belarus 25 November 2015 18: 31 New
    26
    The leader of the militants who shot the Su-24 pilot is the Turk, the son of the ex-mayor of the Turkish province.
    This one at the dishes that shot our pilots, this time should die a dog's death.
    Alpaslan Celik, who commanded the shooting of a Russian Su-24 pilot descending by parachute, turned out to be not a Syrian Turkman, but a Turk adhering to neo-fascist views.

    Recall that yesterday the leader of the militants who shot Lieutenant Colonel Oleg Peshkov posed for Reuters journalists with parts of the parachute of a Russian pilot and was pleased to tell how his people shot at Russians.

    By the way, the statement by the official representative of the US State Department that the Turkmens allegedly had the right to defend themselves by shooting defenseless pilots is cunning. These actions are a direct violation of the Geneva Convention, which prohibits the shooting of paratroopers who catapulted from a damaged plane.

    And, by the way, the leader of the militants was not a Turkman at all, but a Turk. His name is Alpaslan Celik, he is the son of the former mayor of Keban in the Turkish province of Elazig.

    According to media reports, Alpaslan left for Iraq a year ago to fight on the side of the Syrian Turkmens, and now has ended up in Syria, where he is fighting against Assad’s troops with other “moderate oppositionists”.

    There is also evidence that Alpaslan is a member of the Turkish youth organization Bozkurt (Gray Wolves). These are ultra-right Turkish nationalists who advocate the ideology of neo-fascism.

    http://rusvesna.su/news/1448461289
    1. goncharov.62
      goncharov.62 25 November 2015 18: 38 New
      25
      Throat cut. To everyone. And wrap it in pork skin, as General Ermolov did!
    2. Tigran2
      Tigran2 25 November 2015 19: 39 New
      11
      Son and father. In the second shot measures the city of Elazig, Turkey. So what does a Turkish citizen, the son of the mayor of Elazig in Syria do ??? He has a specific name - Alpaslan Celik. But in reality, he is not a Turkman, but a real Turk, originally from the city of Keban in the province of Elazig. Alpaslan is the son of the former mayor of this town, and the city itself is located in the center of Turkey
    3. Sultan Babai
      Sultan Babai 26 November 2015 00: 15 New
      +1
      To this choked with their own blood ...
  • Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 25 November 2015 18: 31 New
    15
    The Turks are still those magpies. Amer learn.
    For the family of the deceased pilot, a tragedy of universal proportions. The world collapsed.
    And some in different branches write about resorts. Have we become cynical? What is the matter with us?
    Relive without resorts! Wake us to the south.
  • g1v2
    g1v2 25 November 2015 18: 33 New
    +3
    It was an ambush. There were no doubts yesterday, and now even more so. The Turks wanted to play muscle. It was possible to search for pilots with the help of Turkoman not only as a trump card, but simply to eliminate them so that they could not tell how it was. In general, the guy has a long life, and Erdogan count un planed in the ass.
  • Nikita M
    Nikita M 25 November 2015 18: 34 New
    +7
    http://lenta.ru/news/2015/11/25/murakhtin/
    It seems that even the missile was launched for the purpose of the illuminated ground-based radar, because apparently the crew did not suspect anything about the launched rocket ... We must respond to such a vile spit!
  • Kindzadza
    Kindzadza 25 November 2015 18: 34 New
    -26
    It’s not clear. Why does the pilot read a piece of paper? Really, now I’m watching life news and shooting from the back. He reads. And this is not a person’s first-hand account. either it’s not at all the person for whom it claims to be, or what kind of setup I am.
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      2. Roman 25
        Roman 25 25 November 2015 19: 39 New
        +8
        And you make it louder in time at 2.24 and then 6-8 seconds, you can even hear how it (the sheets) flips over, and pay attention to the eyes of reporters who involuntarily rush to where the action is ....
        And to be honest - that’s right, a warrior must observe a line of behavior in any situation, much less being abroad. And in that difficult situation, an extra word not thought out by him can do more harm than good.
        Thank you for staying alive !!!
        1. Kindzadza
          Kindzadza 25 November 2015 19: 57 New
          0
          So I'm still right. And minuscule people, instead of sorting it out, include urapatriotism. no one belittles the merit and does not mock the pilot. perhaps he is still in the hospital, and the other acts. Everything can be. Here and reads. it’s just annoying me that the gregarious impulse of the forum users, which is useless to fight. Here are such minuscule people who react to a normal reaction and an attempt to analyze, turn the site into a censor. There’s the same thing - almost in their opinion — right away, minus and what else (it happened go-read).
          1. perm23
            perm23 26 November 2015 07: 25 New
            0
            What analysis is what. That he is not that pilot, reads a piece of paper or not. People analyze the situation, and you dig in the trash can. What for.
            And nothing to do with cheers - patriotism. There is grief in people, and you climb with a dibious analysis. Well, it’s okay to analyze the situation with the downing of the plane - I understand. Well then what. Here answer you what is the difference - a piece of paper or not.
    2. meriem1
      meriem1 25 November 2015 18: 54 New
      +6
      Quote: Kindzadza
      It’s not clear. Why does the pilot read a piece of paper? Really, now I’m watching life news and shooting from the back. He reads. And this is not a person’s first-hand account. either it’s not at all the person for whom it claims to be, or what kind of setup I am.


      What piece of paper ???? He stands with his back downcast.
      1. Kindzadza
        Kindzadza 25 November 2015 19: 13 New
        +4
        It is useless to convince you all. Then anyway, someone else will write.
        1. nadezhiva
          nadezhiva 25 November 2015 20: 19 New
          +3
          Quote: Kindzadza
          It is useless to convince you all. Then anyway, someone else will write.

          Is reading. Everyone saw it. Imagine yourself at the place of a navigator. All questions and answers are agreed.
          He cannot answer. But didn’t they interview the Nord-Ost audience after the release?
          This Man left the chase for 10 hours.
          Without a piece of paper there would only be a mate.
      2. sssla
        sssla 25 November 2015 19: 13 New
        0
        Quote: meriem1
        What piece of paper ??

        A man who does not understand what he is talking about. Just to blurt out !!
      3. a housewife
        a housewife 25 November 2015 23: 52 New
        +1
        Journalists show him the text.
    3. Patriot2012
      Patriot2012 25 November 2015 20: 44 New
      +5
      he looks at the microphones and speaks and behaves as a person is the first time giving an interview to journalists
      1. sssla
        sssla 25 November 2015 21: 15 New
        +1
        This is in the direction of Kinzazi who does not understand what is talking
    4. perm23
      perm23 26 November 2015 07: 21 New
      +1
      Damn where you just come from. To you what of this. YOU what. During a pain in the soul, the patient must be spoiled by others. Fake or not what difference does it make to you. Sick what you are.
  • SIT
    SIT 25 November 2015 18: 34 New
    12
    Turks and dill, rash creatures, the most filthy peoples, after the amers. You can ban.
    And the navigator said well about the debt for the commander. Well done
    1. sssla
      sssla 25 November 2015 21: 18 New
      0
      Rather, prostitutes are cheap
  • APASUS
    APASUS 25 November 2015 18: 35 New
    +4
    Everything is clear with the Turks, they actually were never our friends, but a good example from NATO countries. It seems that no one especially wants to fight for the Turks, and this is precisely what the Turkish authorities were trying to achieve. You can predict that we will hear from the Turks an apology already at the official level, because with Israel they tore off their shirt threatening war, and there was just a zilch ............ refused to buy Israeli UAVs.
    The Turkish Foreign Minister called his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov and expressed condolences over the crash of the Su-24 bomber, which was shot down on November 24 by the Turkish Air Force over Syrian territory.

    Reports about it RIA News.
    1. Pharao7766
      Pharao7766 25 November 2015 18: 50 New
      +6
      In * opu let them stick their apologies!
      The train left...
    2. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 25 November 2015 20: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: APASUS
      brought condolences

      very, I’m waiting for condolences to the Turechchyna for the link of their fu16 driven into the ground.
  • asar
    asar 25 November 2015 18: 35 New
    12
    Konstantin!
    The main thing is that you are alive!
    И прости за долгое "спасалово"!

    Turks - STSUKI, POD.ONKI .....!

    А сейчас "там" "мочилово" жесткое! Ровняют, так сказать!
    Tired bye!
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    2. GYGOLA
      GYGOLA 25 November 2015 20: 00 New
      0
      Careful men! Although, I think it’s not worth asking. Now all the goals are open to us, now we can and should.
  • bad
    bad 25 November 2015 18: 37 New
    +4
    Quote: SIT
    Turks and dill, rash creatures, the most filthy peoples, after the amers. You can ban.
    And the navigator said well about the debt for the commander. Well done
    ..I agree + hi
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  • Brigadier
    Brigadier 25 November 2015 18: 40 New
    +4
    "Месть надо подавать быть холодной". Мафиозо Дон Карлеоне знал, что говорить... Сейчас наши перебрасывают в Сирию С-400, потом ещё что-нибудь... А после этого "что-нибудь" в регулярном режиме турецкие самолёты начнут потихоньку сыпаться на землю... Как говорится - не надо было залетать на сирийскую территорию на пару секунд, да ещё и не улетать после 20 предупреждений, сделаных им нашими ребятами за эту пару секунд ! Ибо, нефиг ! laughing
    1. perm23
      perm23 26 November 2015 07: 31 New
      0
      If only the commanders' nerves had not faltered and a command for destruction was given. And then, as in Soviet times, they were afraid to open fire. How not to provoke. Here it is necessary to destroy everything. Otherwise, the East does not understand.
  • Bjorn
    Bjorn 25 November 2015 18: 41 New
    10
    Here we are constantly yelling that there is an article of the treaty that protects all NATO members from attack from outside.
    I always wanted to check ... is that so?)
    I wrote more than once in the comments on our sites, but what if the NATO country is not right, or the civil war in one of the countries ???
    Immediately banned and for a long time)
    1. Zefr
      Zefr 25 November 2015 21: 42 New
      +1
      There is no such article there. There is something like that in the event of an attack, NATO is developing a response. Those. can, for example, express deep concern.
  • Dad Uassia
    Dad Uassia 25 November 2015 18: 44 New
    -5
    What the American Turks did is of course bad, but ours too cannot be trusted 100%. Information war after all.
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 26 November 2015 18: 12 New
      0
      Well, if the information war which side are you on??????????????
    2. Belarus
      Belarus 26 November 2015 18: 12 New
      0
      Well, if the information war which side are you on??????????????
  • Rossmk
    Rossmk 25 November 2015 18: 46 New
    +1
    Perdogan simply crossed out the developing Russian-Turkish relations with such meanness.
    Russia will not leave this unanswered, but, as has already been said, the retaliatory strike should be as accurate as possible. So that the Turks just squatted, opening their mouths wide.
    1. 3axap82
      3axap82 25 November 2015 18: 59 New
      +2
      The answer simply needs to be proportionate. Otherwise a shame.
      1. VPavel
        VPavel 25 November 2015 22: 10 New
        0
        Quote: 3axap82
        The answer simply needs to be proportionate. Otherwise a shame.


        Exactly!
        А вообще за страну обидно. По Euro News показывали как обесточили Крым "украинские [b]активисты[/". Слов не хватает, одни маты им в ответ. 2 млн без энергии - это активисты делали, кто тогда террористы?
        1. perm23
          perm23 26 November 2015 07: 33 New
          0
          And it is insulting and sorry for the people.
    2. Dad Uassia
      Dad Uassia 25 November 2015 19: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: RossMK
      Perdogan simply crossed out the developing Russian-Turkish relations with such meanness.
      Russia will not leave this unanswered, but, as has already been said, the retaliatory strike should be as accurate as possible. So that the Turks just squatted, opening their mouths wide.

      Or it was not beneficial for someone that Russian-Turkish relations were being established. Considering which block it is included in.
      1. Rossmk
        Rossmk 25 November 2015 19: 17 New
        +1
        Кто же этот "кто-то" может быть? Отсюда можно сделать вывод, что Турция лишь играет в политическую независимость
        1. Dad Uassia
          Dad Uassia 25 November 2015 19: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: RossMK
          Кто же этот "кто-то" может быть? Отсюда можно сделать вывод, что Турция лишь играет в политическую независимость

          Во главе "кто-то" Чёрная Макака в белой землянке.
    3. Rossmk
      Rossmk 25 November 2015 19: 15 New
      +1
      Why a shame? The creation of an unmanned zone and the downing of Turkish aircraft in violation of the Syrian border will not exactly disgrace the Russian Federation. It is possible for the Kurds to plant some ATGMs and MANPADS.
  • TURAR
    TURAR 25 November 2015 18: 48 New
    0
    Every day and every hour, with every redeployment of our troops, the rhetoric of Turkish officials is changing from militant to agree. Jackals! For them, there can only be one definition: power ... What a pity!
  • antikilller55
    antikilller55 25 November 2015 18: 49 New
    +3
    Eternal memory to the dead pilot, land in peace! soldier the terrorist who raised his hand to our flyer and marine wakes in hell, I think she will get there very soon. To the navigator of course health, survive Comrade. the captain had a lot during this day, but the most important thing is alive and well.
  • mig29mks
    mig29mks 25 November 2015 18: 50 New
    +2
    what about missile warning systems
    attack on SU-24 not?
    1. Saratovets
      Saratovets 25 November 2015 18: 57 New
      +2
      There was a missile with IR guidance that could be guided through the optical channel, + they could be very close, so that ours would not leave
    2. Cjiobo
      Cjiobo 25 November 2015 20: 15 New
      +1
      SPO-15 stands on it

      The SPO-15LM station (item B006 Birch LXNUMX) is designed to warn the crew about the exposure of their aircraft (from any direction) by anti-aircraft guided missiles (SAM), on-board radar intercept and aiming systems, as well as any radar equipment operating in range of this station.


      Station SPO-15LM provides:

      detection and determination of an accurate bearing of radiation in a horizontal plane from the front of the hemisphere and a coarse bearing of radiation (left and right) from the back of the hemisphere;
      determination of the direction of radiation (above or below) in a vertical plane;
      determination of parameters and operating mode of irradiating radar facilities;
      the solution to the dynamics of rapprochement with the main attacking means or removal from it;
      selection of the main (most dangerous) attacking means.

      Type of radiation: AI, NI.
      1. Mama_Cholli
        Mama_Cholli 25 November 2015 22: 08 New
        0
        But one question worries me: Why did our pilots on the SU-24 not see the Turkish F16 and actually did not see the missile itself?
        I am not a pro in this matter, but I think that on aircraft in such conditions (sortie), this type of detection equipment should work.
        It turns out that our equipment does not work as it should, since the navigator says that they did not see either the fighters or the rockets?
  • TsUS-Air Force
    TsUS-Air Force 25 November 2015 18: 51 New
    +3
    the Turks really wanted and hoped that none of the pilots would remain! this is now an emergency situation for them !!!
  • tor978
    tor978 25 November 2015 18: 52 New
    10
    It seems to me that the USA ordered to bring down the plane of the Russian Federation and see what the reaction of Russia will be. If the Russian Federation cries out, cries out and calms down, they will continue to put pressure on all sides, and if there is an adequate answer, the United States will think many times whether it is worth contacting Russia. But this is just my opinion.
  • Gomel
    Gomel 25 November 2015 18: 52 New
    +2
    I have no words. Sick Ki. Moreover, both in Turkey and among the terrorists (well, they could take cattle in captivity, there was no need to have fun) and even in the NATO secretariat.

    and news link:
    http://cont.ws/post/153405

    Alpaslan Celik, who shot a parachute with a Su-24 pilot, calls himself a Turkmen, but in fact is a Turk with neo-fascist views.
    Here's the way the bastard photo:
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 25 November 2015 22: 05 New
      +2
      Dude is not a tenant ... infa 100%. Our specialists will soon cut off their heads and push them into a pig.
  • Penzioner
    Penzioner 25 November 2015 18: 53 New
    +4
    Now Kostya Mitrokhin is for you many years. Almost everyone has buried you. You should not have survived under any pretext. Well, what will Erdoganishko say now?
  • Orang
    Orang 25 November 2015 18: 55 New
    +1
    It is clear that the Turks must be punished and the relationship is over. And I'm sorry that it happened. Turkey could be a very profitable partner of Russia. Dumb Erdogan ruined everything. Narrow-minded, greedy and vicious
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 26 November 2015 00: 05 New
      +2
      More disgusting for Turkey and its enemies could not do! It was beneficial for them to be partners with Russia. Now, even if there is no Erdogan, if power changes in Turkey, if Turkey leaves NATO, we will never believe Turkey.
  • PQ-18
    PQ-18 25 November 2015 18: 56 New
    +3
    Glory and ETERNAL MEMORY to your commander!
    RETURN THE STURMAN for him to those who jackal on Syrian soil ...
    And the cowardly Turkish air jackals - pilots stained the honor, death will overtake, if not in the air, then in the most inappropriate place for them ...
    (таких уродов надо "мочить в сортире",чтобы они дерьмом и собственной кровью ЗАХЛЁБЫВАЛИСЬ, ) 
    А этого турецко-подданного ВЫБЛ#ДКА(расстрелявшего русского лётчика с земли) "наши люди" ДОСТАНУТ !
    (just don’t kill the scum right away ..)
    1. PQ-18
      PQ-18 25 November 2015 19: 21 New
      +3
      Heaven suddenly turned into hell for me
      A traitorous blow from around the corner ...
      I am a plane with the soul of man
      With special wing geometry.

      When they beat in the back, they know - they will not miss,
      What are the vulnerabilities ...
      And the pain that started somewhere in the fuselage,
      It pierces from the cab to the tail.

      What the hell is going on in this world ?!
      Do not see me through the fire and smoke.
      I'm not Charlie, I'm Su-Xnumx
      And where are the tablets with my name?

      Pique will tighten ... Dizziness
      Shuffles everything into a kaleidoscope.
      I have not been given a chance to escape
      I meet the inevitable directly in the forehead.

      Earth will embrace to take forever
      My recorder let him cover the darkness.
      I am a plane with the soul of man
      With special wing geometry.

      (c) Sergey Efimov
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  • Saratovets
    Saratovets 25 November 2015 18: 56 New
    +3
    Erdogan must be punished and tough
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 25 November 2015 18: 58 New
    0
    Here is a version from Shurygin, I don’t know how true this is, but. If this is true, then very serious questions arise for the command.
    ... http: //shurigin.livejournal.com/684657.html
  • Gomel
    Gomel 25 November 2015 19: 00 New
    +1
    "Своими действиями бандиты прямо нарушили Женевскую конвенцию, которая запрещает расстрел парашютистов, спасающихся с подбитого воздушного судна"

    By the way, on 18.00 25.11.15 from NATO countries, only Greece expressed condolences for the downed attack aircraft? https://russian.rt.com/article/132552
    Or is there someone else? After all, Stolnberg, a patient ok, didn’t even stutter ... Which once again emphasizes, they do not consider us people.

    Z.Y. What is interesting is the Western media stubbornly (already the second day) call the Su-24 fighter .....
  • Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 25 November 2015 19: 01 New
    0
    Quote: Saratovets
    Erdogan must be punished and tough

    will be punished. and not only him.
  • Orenburg
    Orenburg 25 November 2015 19: 02 New
    +3
    "С волками иначе не делать мировой, лишь снявши шкуру с них долой!"
    I. Krylov

    Although what the fuck are wolves, jackals ...
  • Gomel
    Gomel 25 November 2015 19: 03 New
    +1
    Quote: Gomel

    http://cont.ws/post/153405
    Alpaslan Celik, who shot a parachute with a Su-24 pilot, calls himself a Turkmen, but in fact is a Turk with neo-fascist views.
    Here's the way the bastard photo:
  • OSCAR777
    OSCAR777 25 November 2015 19: 03 New
    +4
    HERE AND VIDEO FROM X..PLET
    1. Axis
      Axis 25 November 2015 20: 08 New
      0
      What is this video?
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      2. OSCAR777
        OSCAR777 25 November 2015 20: 24 New
        +1
        the answer arrived am
  • Engineer
    Engineer 25 November 2015 19: 06 New
    +2
    That's what a Russian man does! Our rat politicians have a lot to learn!
  • atamankko
    atamankko 25 November 2015 19: 06 New
    +4
    Fighting friends will avenge the death of the pilot,
    family of the hero, we condole and worry.
  • OSCAR777
    OSCAR777 25 November 2015 19: 08 New
    +2
    Российская пехота при поддержке танков Т-90 и штурмовиков Су-25М впервые штурмовала позиции противников президента Сирии Башара Асада, пишет кувейтская газета "Аль-Раи" со ссылкой на высокопоставленный сирийский источник.

    According to the publication, as a result of a five-hour battle, the ground forces of the Russian Federation occupied a strategic height between the provinces of Idlib and Latakia.

    "В операции применялись 130-мм артиллерийские орудия в комплексе с авиабомбардировками. Эти маневры стали предварительным испытанием для солдат на предмет их готовности к последующим боям против террористов в Сирии. По словам российских военных, сирийская армия обеспечивала только логистические вопросы, не принимая непосредственного участия в бое", — отметил источник.
    He also said that the Russian military, unlike the enemy, did not suffer losses. http://3mv.ru/publ/smi_rossija_vpervye_primenila_v_sirii_pekhotu_i_tanki/1-1-0-5-XNUMX
    0878
  • mashinist
    mashinist 25 November 2015 19: 10 New
    +1
    In the video, the navigator says something memorized, isn’t the actor for an hour? http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2691080#
    1. Axis
      Axis 25 November 2015 20: 11 New
      +1
      No, not an actor. It affects sleepless night and, of course, shock ...
      1. I read the news
        I read the news 25 November 2015 21: 59 New
        +1
        Quote: Axis
        Affects a sleepless night

        Бессонные больше суток. Думаю даже после того как у своих очутился масса вопросов требовала незамедлительных ответов: "кто стрелял, куда попал?".
    2. VOLOD
      VOLOD 25 November 2015 20: 55 New
      -1
      and maybe this is the actor so that the real navigator does not shoot at the logos. otherwise who knows. as Müller said. (Stirlitz. Nowadays, no one can be trusted. Only yourself. Well, a little more to me.)
      1. Cat man null
        Cat man null 25 November 2015 21: 11 New
        +2
        Quote: VOLOD
        as Muller said

        Do not distort the classics laughing

    3. perm23
      perm23 26 November 2015 07: 41 New
      0
      And you are an actor that cares that you were not invited to star.
  • umka_
    umka_ 25 November 2015 19: 11 New
    +1
    Turks, as always, meanness is their nature ....
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 26 November 2015 00: 12 New
      0
      Рабы и дети рабов. Какие турки, там кровей намешано! Ни один генетик не разберёт. Столетиями им в гаремы со всего света женщин таскали. В Геленджик любите ездить? Белая невесточка в переводе. Крупнейший рабский рынок, откуда "товар" везли прямиком в Стамбул.
  • mmrr
    mmrr 25 November 2015 19: 13 New
    +2
    Yes, everything is clear here. They were waiting for our plane. This is such Turkish revenge and jealousy. All this happened on the day of our president’s visit to Tehran. Given the difficult relations between Turkey and Iran and the contract for the supply of S-300, plus bunkers that were burnt. he and the result is a stab in the back. Nobody was going to warn our crew, they put him in the bushes
  • mvg
    mvg 25 November 2015 19: 13 New
    +5
    Quote: GSH-18
    Думаю, Константина Митрохина можно и нужно по выздоровлению пересадить на Су-35. С тем, чтоб он смог вернуть "должок" за командира известной стороне с процентами! am


    Господи, Уважаемый, ну купи ты себе немного мозгофф... Я понимаю, что шансов прижиться, практически "зеро", но хоть деньги нормально потратишь..
    Well, why constantly carry nonsense? Meaningful hallucinations What comments do you give? Read your comments at your leisure.
    This is STURMAN. Not a fighter pilot! His case is at stake.
    There is a normal, almost professional site .. and a bunch of cheers-idiots. What doesn’t suit you with a battle-no, or tanks, or boats .. At the end of the concoff there is FIFA, you can put Bail or Isko or Robben in Zhirkov’s place .. Not so bloodthirsty, but interesting ..
    I apologize to the moderators. Has accumulated.
    1. Loginoff
      Loginoff 25 November 2015 19: 39 New
      +3
      And it’s the navigator who aims and drops bombs and launches missiles.
    2. Loginoff
      Loginoff 25 November 2015 19: 39 New
      0
      And it’s the navigator who aims and drops bombs and launches missiles.
  • Roman13
    Roman13 25 November 2015 19: 15 New
    +3
    Турция и Украина одного поля ягода... поэтому это поле пора пахать бомбардировками и на их месте создавать второй Гранд каньон что бы американцы могли видеть по своим шавкам-слугам что так называемое "чудо природы" может так же создать и Россия.
    1. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 25 November 2015 19: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: Roman13
      создавать второй Гранд каньон что бы американцы могли видеть по своим шавкам-слугам что так называемое "чудо природы" может так же создать и Россия.

      So we can roll away the whole planet because of these deer, but what about the citadel of democracy?