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As Turkish President Recep Erdogan moved to the camp of accomplices of terrorists

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Last Tuesday, after the Russian bomber Su-24 and its pilot, lieutenant colonel Oleg Peshkov, died on the Syrian-Turkish border, the Russian president spoke very sharply about the actions of Turkey’s military and political leaders: But today's loss is connected with the blow that the accomplices of the terrorists struck us in the back, otherwise I cannot qualify. ” These words of Vladimir Putin are directly addressed to Turkish President Recep Erdogan.


As Turkish President Recep Erdogan moved to the camp of accomplices of terrorists



Nothing personal just business?

The recent trend has become a very pragmatic approach to international relations, when the main tasks of cooperation are determined by the economic interests of the parties. Business and those who provide him political support, for the time being do not pay attention to ideological, cultural, religious, mental and other differences. It happened with Turkey.

Experts have long noted that the Russian Federation and the Republic of Turkey have practically no common positions on major international issues. The Turks actively supported, and then sheltered militants from the North Caucasus. Now Ankara finances and even politically covers the leaders of the Crimean Tatar Majlis who fled to Ukraine, who have recently organized a blockade of the Crimea. In the countries of Central Asia and the Caucasus close to us, the idea of ​​Pan-Turkism is persistently advancing. So much so that, for example, in the union Kazakhstan, we in schools have already introduced the teaching of the Turkish language. In the country, half a dozen Turkish channels legitimately broadcast, and girls instead of takyya or borika (women's national headgear) donned hijabs and even niqabs.

The political support of Turkey is already manifested. At a recent meeting in Tehran, the Turkmen president expressed claims to Vladimir Putin that the airspace over the Caspian is used to fly missiles and airplanes attacking targets in the Turkish-Syrian border area.

Of course, the main knot of our contradictions is in Syria. The Turks look at it as the backyard of the former Ottoman Empire, which the president of the current Ottomans planned to revive. Experts call these plans Recep Erdogan the main driving force behind the civil confrontation in Syria. Syrian President Bashar al-Assad turned out to be an obstacle to their implementation.

All of this Russian business did not notice or did not want to notice, promoting their projects in Turkey. It is generally accepted in society that our main economic cooperation with the Turks is built on the sands of Antalya’s beaches. Last year, almost 4,5 million Russians really rested here and put 3,5 billion dollars in Turkish wallets.

The figure is serious. But exactly the same amount spent in 2012 year, Sberbank, when fully bought Turkish DenizBank. Sberbank’s website then boasted that the deal with the Turks was “the largest acquisition in the whole history bank".

Indeed, DenizBank is the leader in Turkish retail banking. He has 5,4 million customers, almost 600 branches in the country and about a hundred beyond its borders. At the beginning of 2015, the bank’s assets pumped up to $ 40 billion. Today DenizBank is among the ten largest banks in Turkey and occupies about 10 percent in the Russian bank’s business.

The initiative of the Savings Bank was not the first. Back at the turn of the century, Gazprom for $ 3,2 billion stretched Blue Stream to Turkey, which raised Russian gas supplies to almost 60 percent of local needs. In 2008, LUKOIL acquired a network of local gas stations, the number of filling stations in 600. In 2010, Atomstroyexport contracted for Russian money to build Akkuyu nuclear power plants in Turkey worth $ 20 billion and has already invested in 5 billion. In 2011, the Magnitogorsk Metallurgical Plant launched a plant worth $ 2 billion in Turkey. Later, Inter RAO bought the Trakya Elektrik gas power plant. Since last fall, GAZ Group with a local partner, Mersa Otomotiv, has been assembling Gazel Next in Turkey.

You can continue to list the projects of our far-sighted businessmen who have invested in the development of the Turkish economy. Their implementation raised last year the trade turnover between the countries to $ 31 billion, but now it has become a headache for the owners and managers of initiative companies.

Political ambitions exceed economic interest

Almost all the projects listed were supported by Recep Erdogan. How now the president of Turkey appeared in a camp of accomplices of terrorists? Strictly speaking, he has been in this company for a long time. In the distant seventies of the last century, after the end of the religious lyceum of Imam-Khatyb in Istanbul, Erdogan began his political career in the youth unit of the National Salvation Party.

Long before the Turkish deal of the century of Sberbank, the local newspaper Yurt would open the world to the transformation of the Islamic radicals of Turkey. Authorities banned their organizations, closed them down, harassed and even imprisoned activists. The parties then changed their names and continued to operate under the new names.

The Yurt wrote that the radical Islamist Party of National Salvation (the one where young Recep Erdogan headed the cell of his peers) will be replaced by the Welfare Party. It will be banned in the 1997 year after the military coup, and Erdogan himself will be sent to prison for four months. The Islamist organization will be revived only in 2001, with the new name Justice and Development Party and will come to power in the next elections.

As the Yurt newspaper notes, all these reorganizations of the Turkish Islamists took place with the active support of the Muslim Brotherhood, which have an extremely conservative view of religion, common political goals and preferences with the Turkish radicals.

The international religious-political association “Brothers Muslims” has been recognized as terrorist in many countries of the world, so attentive observers have not long been misled by the secular jacket of the Turkish president. Confirmation of these ties was the direct support of Erdogan during the "Arab spring" of the Egyptian Party of Freedom and Justice, created for the elections there by the Muslim Brotherhood.

They will then be removed from power by the military, led by Field Marshal Ac-Sisi, and an open enmity will arise between Cairo and Ankara. After this incident, the Turkish opposition will call Erdogan’s party a branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. No one dares to associate his name with complicity with terrorism, although there will be plenty of examples of such actions.

In the Middle Eastern and Turkish media, there is a lot of evidence about how the Ankara authorities turned border settlements into clusters of Islamic mojaheds, as Antalya resorts and military hospitals are being treated and restored after injuries by militants of terrorist groups. The SANA agency informed that the patronage and support of the Turkish government allows the militants of the “Syrian Free Army” to move freely around the border areas, to shelter here from artillery and air raids, to replenish stocks of food and weapons.

Give examples of direct economic cooperation of the Turks with a terrorist organization LIH. There are they in the Russian media. A military expert, Ivan Konovalov, said that the attack on the Su-24 in Syria could be ordered by the son of the current Turkish President Bilal Erdogan on Lifenews.

According to the newspaper, Erdogan Jr. has close ties with the leaders of ISIS. There are even photos on the web where he poses with the action leaders. Bilal Erdogan controls the transportation of cheap oil to Turkey. After the airplanes of the Air and Space Forces of Russia inflicted significant damage to oil fields and oil storages of the ISIL, destroyed more than a thousand vehicles, the income of the Turkish president’s son was seriously affected. Ivan Konovalov suggests that the attack of Turkish fighters on the Russian bomber was revenge for the ruined business.

As always, in such cases there were probably several reasons for the attack. Turkey’s attempt to protect against Russian air strikes cannot be ruled out aviation self-proclaimed Islamic caliphate. After all, the strategic intentions of the terrorists coincide with the goals of Erdogan. The observer of the pro-government publication of Turkey, Yeni Akit Abdurrahman Dilipak, openly spoke about them. In late October, speaking at a conference in Canada hosted by the Justice and Development Party’s campaign headquarters, he said that Turkish President Recep Erdogan, if he won the ruling party in the parliamentary elections, could become the Caliph and leader of the Sunni Muslim world. The condition for this will be a transition to a presidential republic. An attack on a Russian bomber could be a gesture of patronage to the Islamic Sunni world, as he is seen by a graduate of the lyceum of imams-khatyb Recep Erdogan.

Recep Erdogan retreats ...

After the accomplished attack, the Turkish leaders behaved very militantly. They were triumphantly angry that even a bird would not fly into Turkey without their permission. Promised punishment violators. The Turks favored, albeit indistinct, but with the support of NATO leaders, who hastily gathered a meeting at the ambassadorial level.

At the same time, voices of sober politicians sounded in Europe. Thus, the deputy chairman of the Senate of the Italian Republic, Roberto Calderoli, in connection with the incident with the Russian Su-24 aircraft, accused Turkey of supporting Islamic terrorists. “Turkey today officially entered the war on the side of ISIS,” Calderoli wrote on his Facebook page. (I quote from RIA "News").

Tuesday evening, US President Barack Obama contacted by telephone with the Turkish president. As reported by the Turkish agency Anadolu, referring to Erdogan’s secretariat, “During the discussion of the incident with the downed Russian fighter, it was agreed that all appropriate measures should be taken to prevent the recurrence of such events.”

German Chancellor Angela Merkel also spoke out about this. She demanded that Erdogan defuse the situation. "We must now do everything to avoid escalation," the German television channel Phoenix quotes the Bundeskanzlerin.

The leaders of the Western world made it clear to the Turkish president that they would not support such actions, and Erdogan changed the rhetoric. He stated that Turkey did not know which country the military aircraft belonged to, and did not want such a development of the situation. Erdogan confirmed that Ankara will avoid an escalation of the conflict.

... It seems that this time a hot war can be avoided. There will be pain for the deceased pilot-hero and the persistent feeling that the Turkish fighter fired a rocket not only at the Russian bomber, but also into the future of our interstate relations. They have no prospects for many years now ...
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  2. Moore
    Moore 26 November 2015 06: 19 New
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    ... It seems that this time a hot war can be avoided. There will be pain for the deceased pilot-hero and the persistent feeling that the Turkish fighter fired a rocket not only at the Russian bomber, but also into the future of our interstate relations. They have no prospects for many years now ...

    And Erdogan made a giant step forward on the path to independent Kurdistan. Here is this handsome man, on the left - MANPADS not yet shipped?
    1. Lepila
      Lepila 26 November 2015 08: 31 New
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      It is necessary to make alaverds to Comrade Perdogan. Start with deliveries of the Verba MANPADS to the Kurdish police. So that Turkish pilots do not feel at ease over Kurdistan.
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      2. Good me
        Good me 26 November 2015 09: 25 New
        +4
        Quote: Lepila
        It is necessary to make alaverds to Comrade Perdogan. Start with deliveries of the Verba MANPADS to the Kurdish police. So that Turkish pilots do not feel at ease over Kurdistan.


        No need.

        The "inclusion" of the C300-400 complexes, located in Syria, will make flights of ANY aviation, ANY country without our knowledge impossible.

        The aggression of Turkey, pushed us to implement a plan to ensure a REALLY FREE ZONE, with all the ensuing consequences for those who violated it.

        Map, with zones of detection and destruction of C300-400 complexes:
        1. Alexey Lesogor
          Alexey Lesogor 26 November 2015 09: 57 New
          +7
          Map, with zones of detection and destruction of C300-400 complexes:


          You can add to this map the coverage area of ​​complexes in the Crimea and the Caucasus. Turkey under an umbrella soldier
          1. Alena Frolovna
            Alena Frolovna 26 November 2015 14: 57 New
            +4
            Quote: Lepila
            It is necessary to make alaverds to Comrade Perdogan.


            No need.


            So he already ran to the "mommy" with a complaint
            1. python2a
              python2a 26 November 2015 17: 26 New
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              The pants are probably wet in the son and mother.
        2. Lepila
          Lepila 26 November 2015 15: 22 New
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          And even the F-22 will not be able to fly?
          do not consider it self-confidence, but the planes of my small but proud country will continue to destroy caravans with weapons for Hezbollah.
          1. would
            would 26 November 2015 21: 14 New
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            C400 can bring down F22. I won’t say for C300
      3. ultra
        ultra 26 November 2015 15: 10 New
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        Quote: Lepila
        Start with deliveries of the Verba MANPADS to the Kurdish police.

        I think this is useless, because it is not known where these MANPADS will come up. But the anti-tank systems must be supplied.
    2. Phantom-11
      Phantom-11 26 November 2015 10: 04 New
      +4
      ptrk can and will give. but pzrk hardly
    3. Spnsr
      Spnsr 26 November 2015 12: 12 New
      +2
      I won’t say whether I treat the Turks for good or bad, for me there’s no way at all! there is some moments of communication that did not leave good impressions with the Turks, and not with these wretched blood Turks from the former Turkic-speaking republics of the USSR, but this is not an indicator! ...
      and with regard to everything that has happened now and what is described in the article, we can only say that Turkey is not the heiress of the Atamans, maybe even the Ottomans, but very far away, they killed those when they killed the Janissaries, when they tried to pursue a policy of the so-called Islamic law in the Balkans, when at the beginning of the 20th century they committed the genocide of Armenians! it was then that they destroyed those who still could afford to say we are the heirs of the Ataman empire! when each following destroyed the previous ones and now these want to take on the honor and dignity of those! not a hat for senka, and not a donkey for a burden !!!
      And it is necessary to drive all the ig from Syria and Iraq into Turkey. let them feel what it feels like to be always at gunpoint, not a trunk so mines! pan-Turkists, instead of building an empire, they kill people, ordinary hard workers, on whom empires flourish to impose their power, but the era when it could be done just like that left the irrevocability!
      God sees! not the religion that they are trying to impose on others, but God! in proportion to the commandments of which everyone must measure his behavior and life! and he is ONE, whether you are a Muslim, a peasant or someone else!
      1. Dad Uassia
        Dad Uassia 26 November 2015 17: 42 New
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        Quote: SpnSr
        I won’t say whether I treat the Turks for good or bad, for me there’s no way at all! there is some moments of communication that did not leave good impressions with the Turks, and not with these wretched blood Turks from the former Turkic-speaking republics of the USSR, but this is not an indicator! ...
        and with regard to everything that has happened now and what is described in the article, we can only say that Turkey is not the heiress of the Atamans, maybe even the Ottomans, but very far away, they killed those when they killed the Janissaries, when they tried to pursue a policy of the so-called Islamic law in the Balkans, when at the beginning of the 20th century they committed the genocide of Armenians! it was then that they destroyed those who still could afford to say we are the heirs of the Ataman empire! when each following destroyed the previous ones and now these want to take on the honor and dignity of those! not a hat for senka, and not a donkey for a burden !!!
        And it is necessary to drive all the ig from Syria and Iraq into Turkey. let them feel what it feels like to be always at gunpoint, not a trunk so mines! pan-Turkists, instead of building an empire, they kill people, ordinary hard workers, on whom empires flourish to impose their power, but the era when it could be done just like that left the irrevocability!
        God sees! not the religion that they are trying to impose on others, but God! in proportion to the commandments of which everyone must measure his behavior and life! and he is ONE, whether you are a Muslim, a peasant or someone else!

        They are already under the gun of the Kurds who carry out terrorist attacks in Turkey.
    4. python2a
      python2a 26 November 2015 17: 18 New
      +1
      Submit an application and the UN to create a new state in the Middle East called Kurdistan.
  3. hohkn
    hohkn 26 November 2015 06: 21 New
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    For many years now they have no prospects ...

    There really is no prospect. And even giving Turkey a pilot who shot down our Su-24 will not save the situation, it will only smooth it out a little (I dreamed something - Erdogan would never go for it, though then he would crawl out).
    1. Military Builder
      Military Builder 26 November 2015 06: 43 New
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      why this pilot is needed, he carried out a combat order, you need to ask from those who gave this order
      1. domashnij2013
        domashnij2013 26 November 2015 11: 41 New
        +4
        I think, for starters, it would be necessary to eliminate those who shot our pilot in the air. Carry out a special operation or appoint a reward for the heads and destroy these gangs to whoever they belong to - moderate or not.
      2. Spnsr
        Spnsr 26 November 2015 12: 17 New
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        Quote: Military Builder
        why this pilot is needed, he carried out a combat order, you need to ask from those who gave this order

        Yes, the son of the Drybagan set up, went on a trip to our flyers, thought the question was solved, and they sent him to the hollow and bombed another column, so he gave the order, dad maybe didn’t even know, and when he found out, it was too late for the son to smear. ..
        purely Asian plot!
    2. VladimirRG
      VladimirRG 26 November 2015 12: 45 New
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      why do we need a pilot? He the warrior complied with the order, why punish him? But let them give the one who gave this order. Another thing.
      1. Lone wolf
        Lone wolf 26 November 2015 15: 20 New
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        Quote: VladimirRG
        VladimirRG Today, 12:45 ↑
        why do we need a pilot? He the warrior complied with the order, why punish him? But let them give the one who gave this order. Another thing.

        You know the world a couple of times ,,,, was on the verge of a real nuclear war and it didn’t happen just because the Start order at different times ,,, received, not the nosed pilot, but really thinking .... Soviet and American officers .. .. at their own risk and RISK, they stopped the order ... the flyer also had a choice, the more he saw where the target was .. the launch made CONSCIOUSLY
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 26 November 2015 06: 21 New
    +8
    As Turkish President Recep Erdogan moved to the camp of accomplices of terrorists


    Yes, he did not come out of it!
    This is his, Erdogan's beloved brainchild! angry
    1. Very old
      Very old 26 November 2015 06: 53 New
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      The gratuitous oil that the caravans of tanks dragged from Syria to Turetchina gave awesome profits both to the Turks (Erdogan’s son has an oil business) and to the Igilovsky militants - the chest is opened without a key - Money is dirty, but money
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 26 November 2015 10: 27 New
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        Quote: Old very
        The gratuitous oil that the caravans of tanks dragged from Syria to Turetchina gave awesome profits both to the Turks (Erdogan’s son has an oil business) and to the Igilovsky militants - the chest is opened without a key - Money is dirty, but money

        Compared to how much Russia and Russian citizens invested in the Turkish economy and infrastructure, profits from Igilov’s oil, a penny.
        1. larand
          larand 26 November 2015 11: 54 New
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          Quote: NEXUS
          in comparison with how much Russia and Russian citizens invested in the Turkish economy and infrastructure, profits from Igilov’s oil, a penny.


          Interestingly, the great banker Gref, doing his business on our pensions and salary, as I recall, refused to work in Crimea. And climbed into Turkey.
        2. Spnsr
          Spnsr 26 November 2015 12: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Old very
          The gratuitous oil that the caravans of tanks dragged from Syria to Turetchina gave awesome profits both to the Turks (Erdogan’s son has an oil business) and to the Igilovsky militants - the chest is opened without a key - Money is dirty, but money

          Compared to how much Russia and Russian citizens invested in the Turkish economy and infrastructure, profits from Igilov’s oil, a penny.

          maybe for the state, but for the son of a dribagan! this loot unmeasured ...!
  5. sa-zz
    sa-zz 26 November 2015 06: 27 New
    +4
    After all the above ..
    ... It seems that this time a hot war can be avoided. There will be pain for the deceased hero-pilot and a strong feeling that the Turkish fighter fired a rocket not only at the Russian bomber, but also into the future of our interstate relations.

    the author breathed out and smeared tears on his face.
    N.I.Kh.r.ena did not understand what the author is trying to say here.
    In his opinion, due to the reasons listed in items 8-10, do you need to shut up and swallow something?
    Emotions of course rolls over (sinful), but the conclusion was enraged.
  6. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 26 November 2015 06: 29 New
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    The initiative of Sberbank was not the first. At the turn of the century, Gazprom for $ 3,2 billion extended the Blue Stream to Turkey, which raised the supply of Russian gas to almost 60 percent of local needs. In 2008, LUKOIL acquired a network of local gas stations with a total of 600 gas stations. In 2010, Atomstroyexport contracted to build Akkuyu NPP in Turkey with a cost of $ 20 billion for Russian money and has already invested 5 billion. In 2011, Magnitogorsk Iron and Steel Works launched a $ 2 billion plant in Turkey. Later, Inter RAO bought the gas station Trakya Elektrik. Since the fall of last year, the GAZ Group with its local partner Mersa Otomotiv has been collecting the GAZelle Next in Turkey. They don’t want to invest in Russian business! And now the money was covered with a copper basin!
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 26 November 2015 06: 53 New
      +5
      Which, what basin? I dare to assure you that our oligarchs will not remain in the loser ...
      1. anip
        anip 26 November 2015 07: 34 New
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        Quote: moskowit
        Which, what basin? I dare to assure you that our oligarchs will not remain in the loser ...

        Wider need to think, wider. The oligarchs will not remain, but the people of Russia ... However, as always, all losses due to the "ingenious" and "far-sighted" foreign policy are compensated by the common people.
    2. anip
      anip 26 November 2015 07: 35 New
      +2
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      They don’t want to invest in Russian business!

      Indeed, why raise your industry?
    3. hydrox
      hydrox 26 November 2015 08: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: Uncle Lee
      They don’t want to invest in Russian business


      Thanks to the Russian liberal Pr-woo!
      So our “fifth column” is a true accomplice of the “Muslim brothers”, raising the power of the Turkish state, and soon it will also give access to the atomic bomb, developing the nuclear energy program in Turkey.
      1. ANTI.KORR.
        ANTI.KORR. 26 November 2015 09: 04 New
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        Quote: hydrox
        Thanks to the Russian liberal Pr-woo!

        And the "king" seems to have nothing to do with it ....
        1. Yars
          Yars 26 November 2015 10: 51 New
          0
          another one from lent.inter.tv was sold as the last request ... to the west, in such a difficult moment for Russia, such reptiles must be deprived of citizenship and sent!
          1. I read the news
            I read the news 26 November 2015 10: 59 New
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            Quote: YARS
            in such a difficult moment for Russia, such reptiles must be deprived of citizenship and sent!

            What does it mean to "send"? But what about forced labor to cover the damage?
            How many bridges and roads in the country have not been built, channels not dug, power lines not drawn, submarine cables not stretched?
            1. Spnsr
              Spnsr 26 November 2015 15: 38 New
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              Quote: I readNews

              What does it mean to "send"? But what about forced labor to cover the damage?
              How many bridges and roads in the country have not been built, channels not dug, power lines not drawn, submarine cables not stretched?

              laughing I can imagine what kind of work they will do, and then again with a pen, write how everything in Russia is through opera, even teeth laughing
        2. Aleksandr12
          Aleksandr12 26 November 2015 11: 10 New
          +2
          Something you posted here some disgrace. A man sits and unceremoniously pours mud on our government. It is not holy, but not the same G as the leader describes. Linking terrorist acts in Egypt with an airplane and in Paris is like comparing the index finger with the genital organ, sorry for being rude. If in Paris they could have been prevented (special services for what), then how to prevent the catastrophe that happened in another country by not inspecting the specialists of another country and blaming their president for their poor work?
          The host is very radical and there is a call for the violent overthrow of the government, which is unacceptable.
          For future requests, before uploading such videos, you analyze them very carefully. But is it not a provocation, is it worth becoming an accomplice and assistant to the provocateurs?
          1. ANTI.KORR.
            ANTI.KORR. 26 November 2015 11: 30 New
            +4
            Quote: Aleksandr12
            The host is very radical and there is a call for the violent overthrow of the government, which is unacceptable.

            Do not make it up!
            Quote: Aleksandr12
            But is it not a provocation, is it worth becoming an accomplice and assistant to the provocateurs?

            What are you, what kind of provocation, when all the people united around the government and the president in a single ecstatic outburst, especially after speaking with Naina at the opening of the Eltsin Center.
            And we don’t even give a damn about new taxes, imitation, inflation, theft and embezzlement of money, embezzlers and their lack of jurisdiction, oligarchs, toll roads, toll medicine, to kill education, to fairy tales about import substitution and other inconveniences. ugh on them!
            We believe in the government and die better, but we will not criticize it. urryayayayaya!
            1. Aleksandr12
              Aleksandr12 26 November 2015 12: 49 New
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              Quote: ANTI.KORR.
              Do not make it up!

              I do not invent. With such a reading, which is served, except for the power shift of the ruling to the mind does not come. Or is there something else I missed?
              Quote: ANTI.KORR.
              And we don’t even give a damn about new taxes, imitation, inflation, theft and embezzlement of money, embezzlers and their lack of jurisdiction, oligarchs, toll roads, toll medicine, to kill education, to fairy tales about import substitution and other inconveniences. ugh on them!
              We believe in the government and die better, but we will not criticize it. urryayayayaya!

              And what do you suggest? Are there any ideas how to deal with this?
              Do not propose a revolution! Already passed. You don’t just have to stir up the people’s head and beat the patient. If you see a problem, you need to solve it, or propose solutions. The embezzlers and other brethren have names and surnames.
              I am not blind. I see the weakness of our government, I see embezzlement, I have come across it more than once. I see how those in power are robbing us and others like them. I am a patriot, but not straight Uryayayayayaya, but just Urya smile .
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        3. ioann1
          ioann1 26 November 2015 16: 24 New
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          Judging by the appearance, this leader does not have a calm, even nervous life. And he carries complete nonsense. This is a video for children like "rain".
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        5. Raider
          Raider 26 November 2015 21: 12 New
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          Where did you find him? What a bummer? The rumpled eater of European culture? Does he consider his place there? McDonald's cleaner wiping the table at America's European scavengers. And he considers himself a great connoisseur of spirituality and culture of the Western world. I would start with yourself, look at him and live reluctance, worn down to holes ... pah.
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  7. ImPerts
    ImPerts 26 November 2015 06: 32 New
    +7
    Yes, so that, for example, in the union of Kazakhstan in our schools teaching of the Turkish language has already been introduced. Half a dozen Turkish channels are legally broadcasting in the country, and girls instead of takya or borika (women's national hats) donned hijabs and even niqabs.

    I do not know what kind of tango is with Turkey, but Nazarbayev managed to fly to Doha to Paris and conclude contracts, including for the construction of a madrassah. Now, the wise Nursultan Abishevich must dance a polysyllabic dance party with a lot of pa.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 26 November 2015 09: 01 New
      +3
      Quote: ImPerts
      polysyllabic dance party with lots of pa.


      Well, then, Turkic-speaking kinship is genetically manifested ...
      1. Talgat 148
        Talgat 148 26 November 2015 12: 58 New
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        And when Serbia was bombed in the Russian Federation, the Slavic-speaking genetically did not appear ????
        Although all the Kazakhs are on your side and condemn the attack of Turkish fighters. Nothing shows up with us. It will happen when they are shot down, it will be a pity and only.
        1. Talgat 148
          Talgat 148 26 November 2015 13: 01 New
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          ..... kinship ..
  8. hartlend
    hartlend 26 November 2015 06: 33 New
    +5
    "almost 4,5 million Russians and put $ 3,5 billion in Turkish wallets.

    The number is serious. "

    This is not a number, but a number. In fact, the article is useful. Only it does not say exactly how Erdogan joined the camp of terrorist accomplices. It follows from the article that he was always there.
    1. anip
      anip 26 November 2015 07: 36 New
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      Quote: hartlend
      It follows from the article that he was always there.

      So Erdogan never really hid this much.
  9. parusnik
    parusnik 26 November 2015 06: 42 New
    +5
    Turkey did not know which country the military aircraft belonged to, and did not want such a development of the situation. ... Like ISIS has aviation ... Still, interestingly, the Americans bombed a motorcade with oil products for Turkey not long ago, but the Turks didn’t shoot down American planes ... apparently they didn’t come across ...
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 26 November 2015 09: 03 New
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      Quote: parusnik
      . apparently did not come across ...


      Well, yes, of course :: they got scared and started off ...
  10. Mowgli
    Mowgli 26 November 2015 06: 49 New
    +7
    in the union with us Kazakhstan in the schools have already introduced the teaching of the Turkish language


    Are you serious?
    There are, of course, Kazakh-Turkish schools, lyceums, universities.
    But these are specialized educational institutions.
    In general, there are few of them (for example, we only know one here).
    Yes there, learn Turkish. Along with the general education program.
    And in secondary schools - Kazakh, Russian, English.
    1. VladimirRG
      VladimirRG 26 November 2015 12: 51 New
      0
      Where are you? they are full in our outback, and in Almaty and Astana and in every regional city .....
      1. Talgat 148
        Talgat 148 26 November 2015 13: 01 New
        0
        Well, not in every school !!!
      2. Mowgli
        Mowgli 26 November 2015 17: 49 New
        0
        Ust-Kamenogorsk.
        Regional center.
        2 pieces.
        I know one, but about what the second is, I read it on Wikipedia (the article is called “Kazakh-Turkish Lyceums,” if anyone is interested).
        Total in Kazakhstan - 33 pieces.
        They, of course, are hardly useful (from Wiki: “Politicians, as well as many scholars and journalists, suspect that the program of these institutions instills pro-Turkic and religious ideas that could jeopardize secular regimes”), but this does not give reason to write, that "Turkish language teaching has already been introduced in schools."
        I repeat once again: Kazakh, Russian and English languages ​​are studied in Kazakhstan secondary schools. In the absolute majority.
        And so yes, you can even write that they have already introduced the study of the Chinese language (and what, we are studying at the Presidential School. There are also universities. Courses ...)
      3. Mowgli
        Mowgli 26 November 2015 17: 57 New
        0
        It turns out interestingly, however:

        Turkish lyceums in Kazakhstan can be banned at the request of Erdogan?
        27-05-2015, 10:59

        "Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan once again asked the governments of Kazakhstan, Tajikistan, Senegal, Gabon, Kosovo, Congo, Somalia and Japan to limit the activities of Turkish lyceums, which are supported by the Hizmet Movement opposition to the Turkish government, reports Ozodi (Tajik Liberty Tajik service) ) with reference to the Turkish edition of Daily Sabah.

        Fergana International News Agency provides the following data. Erdogan repeatedly asked leaders of different countries to close the Turkish lyceums, partially funded by the leader of the Hizmet movement, Fethullah Gulen, the main ideological opponent of the Turkish president, and stated that the Gulen movement is anti-state and not religious, but extremist. "

        Taken here: http://radiotochka.kz/10984-tureckie-licei-v-kazahstane-mogut-zapretit-po-prosbe
        -erdogana.html
  11. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 26 November 2015 07: 07 New
    +3
    And how many Turkish lyceums do we have in Russia ?? at one time it was banned, so they changed the name and further they decompose the youth - continuing their education (recruitment) after the lyceum in Turkey .. Moreover, these lyceums are even in Buryatia, which is infinitely far from Islam
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 26 November 2015 07: 14 New
    +6
    Turkmen president claims Vladimir Putin

    It’s necessary that the Turks didn’t consult with the Turkmen before striking. We will consider for the future. Nevertheless, authoritarian leaders with manners at the medieval level quickly find a common language (I'm talking about the presidents of Turkmenistan and Turkey).
    1. Humpty
      Humpty 26 November 2015 07: 23 New
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Turkmen president claims Vladimir Putin

      It’s necessary that the Turks didn’t consult with the Turkmen before striking.

      After all, Turkmenbashi said that the Elbasy expressed his concerns to him about flights over the Caspian. Nazarbayev has not officially said anything like that. Turkmenbashi seems to have spoken.
    2. hydrox
      hydrox 26 November 2015 09: 07 New
      +3
      Quote: rotmistr60
      It’s necessary that the Turks didn’t consult with the Turkmen before striking.


      Sultanates: what is in Turkmenistan, what is in Turkey, only in Turkey is aggressively reactionary and still unfinished
  13. Insurgent LC
    Insurgent LC 26 November 2015 07: 22 New
    14
    the Turkish troops are fighting with the igil, we smile and wave, the whole igil is Erdogan’s PMC for squeezing the territory of Syria with oil products, but first, in the traditions of the Ottoman Empire, it is necessary to cut out the local population and populate it with Turkomans, and that’s the whole situation: the example of Armenians or Bulgarians was already in both cases Russians gave the Ottomans the teeth of the Turks just do a rotten nation with a dagger in his bosom
    1. Mikhail m
      Mikhail m 26 November 2015 07: 41 New
      +2
      Minus for your non-Russian language.
    2. Themi30
      Themi30 26 November 2015 10: 07 New
      0
      and the black bar in the middle of the photo is not a gluing of two photos. In real life, this mountain is very far beyond the limits of small fire, so everyone there feels so calm.
      1. lelikas
        lelikas 26 November 2015 14: 19 New
        0
        Quote: TheMi30
        and the black bar in the middle of the photo is not a gluing of two photos. In real life, this mountain is very far beyond the limits of small fire, so everyone there feels so calm.

        What is so really far?
        1. Themi30
          Themi30 26 November 2015 14: 26 New
          +3
          Yes, really, look closely at the background above the machine, this is not the case by chance ?! and then who’s on top? giant? stop eating all the bullshit! This photo has been discussed on VO more than once. Photo glued + swotoshopleno. I do not deny that the Turks are in the gums with ISIS, but you do not need to post messy pictures.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 26 November 2015 22: 44 New
            0
            Quote: TheMi30
            Yes, really, look closely at the background above the machine, this is not the case by chance ?!

            This is one house from which only the "dimensions" are left - see for yourself.
            There is such a thing as perspective.
  14. Insurgent LC
    Insurgent LC 26 November 2015 07: 23 New
    +7
    here's the turkish border the same faces current in profile
  15. miv110
    miv110 26 November 2015 08: 02 New
    +3
    Here is a vivid lesson to you on the topic of economic geography, political economy, geopolitics, and simply history. Hedgehog it’s clear that building commercial relations with a potential enemy (and NATO, de facto, has always been and remains a real enemy for us since its inception) is always extremely risky. But such are the realities of life, everyone trades with everyone. Even during World War II, official enemies quietly traded among themselves. Everything is determined by a cynical proverb: "Nothing personal - only business." Russia was dealt a very serious blow, reminiscent of a way to deal with avalanches. Very accurate single (well, maybe two or three) shots at the right point cause a snow tsunami to gather. In our everyday life and in the wake of patriotic moods like “Give the Bosphorus and the Dardanelles” we still cannot realize where all this will lead us. And it’s okay if the wallet of top managers or oligarchs is a little thinner - they just will not disappear. They will solve their problems at the expense of the common population. There will be reductions in jobs, wages, etc. To prevent this from happening is one of the most important tasks of the government, to be able to redistribute forces and resources so that if the economic and social spheres are affected even minimally. Again, if the government has such a task.
    1. anip
      anip 26 November 2015 08: 37 New
      +4
      Quote: miv110
      Here is a vivid lesson to you on the topic of economic geography, political economy, geopolitics, and simply history. Hedgehog is clear that building commercial relations with a potential enemy (and NATO, in fact, de facto, has always been and remains a real enemy for us since its inception) is always extremely risky.

      Hurray-Utriots do not understand this, as well as their guarantor.
      From folk art (though with an error):
      1. VladimirRG
        VladimirRG 26 November 2015 12: 56 New
        +1
        what kind of stupidity is the end gas consumer over there as far as they were and remained. Turkey is just a country for gas transit. The Bulgarians refused (the same)))
  16. Vais
    Vais 26 November 2015 08: 04 New
    +5
    So he did not go anywhere. He was always there. He himself is an Islamist from the radical "Brothers of Muslims." And he never hid it.
  17. sledge
    sledge 26 November 2015 08: 17 New
    +3
    Erdogan will play out - lose another piece of the Ottoman Empire Kurdistan
    1. Egoza
      Egoza 26 November 2015 08: 26 New
      +5
      Quote: Sanya
      Erdogan will play out

      And no NATO will help if he has not yet understood this.
      And how many Tatars from the Crimea "studied" in Turkey? And who supports Dzhemilev today? All the glories of Suleiman does not give rest? It will not work out of Erdogan the great Sultan. Cowardly hurts!
    2. Combitor
      Combitor 26 November 2015 09: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: Sanya
      Erdogan will play out

      Already played out ...
      1. dr. sem
        dr. sem 26 November 2015 13: 23 New
        0
        Kicking ass with petroleum jelly ...
  18. O_s_c_a_R
    O_s_c_a_R 26 November 2015 08: 20 New
    +2
    I remembered the movie banned in Turkey, "Midnight Express" 1978 onwards Not to be confused with a film of the same name from 2008. The protagonist spoke very strongly about the Turks.
  19. Egoza
    Egoza 26 November 2015 08: 32 New
    +2
    By the way, Kazakhstan Vanga warns that in the 2016 year in Kazakhstan there may be a repetition of Ukraine and there will be many clashes for sure, it urges people to change their minds and look at Ukraine, what will happen if they respond to the calls of "some".
  20. Monster_Fat
    Monster_Fat 26 November 2015 08: 33 New
    +2
    Nothing new. Reagan also said at one of the inter-bouts between the United States and the European countries-members of NATO: "There are no alternatives to democracy and a free economy - this must be understood clearly ... The United States is a state that at this stage of development of human civilization is the concentration of all norms and values ​​of the free, democratic world and because what is beneficial to the United States should be beneficial to the whole world. The expansion and dissemination of the norms and values ​​of democracy, as well as the rules and laws of the free market, should be the main goal of the whole free western society ... "In these in words the main thing: it is the expansion of the "free market". Those who interfere with the spread of the norms and values ​​of democracy and oppose the rules and laws of the "free market" —that is, oppose the authorities of transnational corporations — must be swept away by "democratic" forces. Thus, if we remove the verbal husk, then in these words the Western "democracies" oppose themselves to the rest of the "undemocratic" world and declare war on it by "expanding" their norms and rules.
  21. bucha12
    bucha12 26 November 2015 09: 09 New
    +4
    a comparison begs
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 26 November 2015 09: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: bucha12
      a comparison begs

      Well, yes, young Hitler and already for .... how much is he now, the second (first)?
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 26 November 2015 13: 04 New
      0
      In my opinion, Erdogan in this photo looks much more like a trainer to Gazaev)
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  23. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 26 November 2015 09: 41 New
    +8
    Our military are waging a heroic fight against terror, not sparing their lives. But today's loss is related to the blow that terrorist accomplices delivered to us in the back, I can’t qualify otherwise. ” Putin V.V.
    There will always be problems in life. But the choice is ours: either whine, or solve them. And believe WE will solve them. And as the classic said, whoever offends Russia will not live long.
  24. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 26 November 2015 09: 42 New
    +2
    Erdogan is already moving back like a rhino, he smelled that it smelled of singing! We didn’t demolish such a bull’s horns. It will take a little time and will give a command voice from under the bed.
  25. starwars
    starwars 26 November 2015 11: 23 New
    +4
    "Russia destroyed the Turkish convoy sent to the militants in Syria. Erdogan is silent. Last night (November 25) the first photos and videos of the destroyed Turkish convoy arrived in the city of Aazaz, which the militants control. For starters, a few photos. Well, that's about it a little information about what kind of city this is and why you need to focus on this news. The city of Aazaz is located in the north of Syria and practically borders on Turkey. This city is a hub city where Turkish aid is transported (weapons, ammunition, medicines, dry packs, etc.) Already with it, all the "help" begins to disperse in other cities controlled by the militants, as well as in the camps and fortified areas. Map (the red circle is the city of Aazaz). As you can see, the border with Turkey is only 5 kilometers away. about the buffer zone, Turkey hoped to make this city an absolute bridgehead beyond the control of the Syrian army’s attacks. It didn’t work out. But until today, due to the remoteness of the Sy The Iy army from this point, as well as for a number of geopolitical reasons, did not inflict blows on this city.

    Today, the Russian Aerospace Forces destroyed the entire column of trucks loaded with militants, which arrived in the city the other day. In any other situation, the Turkish government and Erdogan personally would start to scream that Russia bombed trucks with humanitarian aid, but at the moment they cannot afford it.

    Thus, Russia continues to destroy all facilities on the border with Turkey, completely and completely ignoring the interests of Turkey (previously observed). It can be stated that now neither Turkey will receive cheap oil, nor militants will be able to properly receive supplies, since any border crossing by Turkish cars will be suppressed by Russian airborne forces.
    Recommended: Russia inflicted a massive airstrike on IS facilities in Syria. Since yesterday, Russia has inflicted massive strikes by aviation and artillery (the Syrian army) in the border areas with Turkey. And this means the destruction of the supply infrastructure that Turkey created during these several years of the war in Syria.


    PS From the Turkish press it became known that 20 trucks were destroyed (by blow and subsequent fire), 7 people died and 10 more were injured. "
    0:44
    1. cosmos111
      cosmos111 26 November 2015 13: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: starwars
      . Last night (November 25) the first photos and videos of the destroyed Turkish convoy, which arrived in the city of Aaz, appeared

      and, NOT only him ...
    2. Strezhevchanin
      Strezhevchanin 26 November 2015 19: 41 New
      0
      Quote: starwars
      20 trucks, 7 people were killed and 10 more were injured. "

      Yes, it was not so.
  26. Petrik66
    Petrik66 26 November 2015 11: 34 New
    +5
    The next who will surrender us will be the Chinese brothers. When did the war against the USSR begin in 1941? ours, too, rushed about, lost face, just like now. I will always remember Putin’s stunned face after signing gas deals in Beijing. He clearly did not expect such a mercantile attitude towards our problems. And what did he expect7 That our Chinese "brothers" will extend a helping hand out of some universal human motives? What they hold out to us is not quite like a hand. The whole turn to the East, while it turned out to be a big zilch. Money didn’t go, commodity circulation is falling. We give back the latest military developments, since we have nothing more to offer. And the Chinese gradually, without making any effort, receive from us everything that they need. Gas pipeline - will take place or not, only Allah knows about it. Iran - well, it's just a fellow traveler, who uses us and, in a convenient situation, exchanges for US preferences, the situation with Egypt under Sadat will be repeated. Egypt - a new waltz tour with the same naive Arabian redneck - it’s good to deceive giaur, take money, technology and weapons from him, and then say that you didn’t ask him for anything and he imposed all this on you. Well, the Turks are generally a separate song, when Putin rushed to Erdogan after the cancellation of the South Stream, when the format of the visit was urgently changed, when ..... well, how could these Turkish “brothers” not use us and not begin to bend us? What is the surprise? This is a standard Turkish grip, which is when trading kebab, which is when laying a gas pipeline. Russia has three friends: Lukashenko (a joke), the Army and the Navy. No need to build illusions. It is necessary to strengthen the economic, military power and does not rush around the world in search of "friends." And as for the analogies, we all remember how it ended in 1945 and who went there with an amazed face.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 26 November 2015 11: 42 New
      +4
      Russian VKS spoiled smile business to Erdogan and his gang of thieves and accomplices of terrorism.
    2. ultra
      ultra 26 November 2015 15: 13 New
      0
      Quote: Petrik66
      I will always remember Putin’s stunned face after signing gas deals in Beijing.

      Do not write nonsense!
    3. esaull
      esaull 26 November 2015 17: 46 New
      +1
      If I'm not mistaken, the only strange country that has always supported us is Serbia
  27. iouris
    iouris 26 November 2015 11: 46 New
    +2
    Erdogan has always been a religious extremist legal political representative of terrorists. So the personality is quite solid. He believes that those who collaborated with him hit him in the back.
  28. Dan Slav
    Dan Slav 26 November 2015 11: 50 New
    +3
    Pride for Sberbank, of course, bursting!
    But maybe Sberu should return the stolen money from deposits from Russians since the days of the USSR.
    Many operations resemble the withdrawal of money from Russia to different countries and under various pretexts.
    Russia was snapped on the nose thoroughly. Bravura speeches flew-bombed sharply diminished.
    We must continue to bomb wells, oil refineries and fuel trucks. Just stop this flow of cheap oil.
    Collapse collaboration with these morons.
    And deal with your country!
    Although the current generation of thieves in power will never do this!
  29. Kibl
    Kibl 26 November 2015 12: 07 New
    0
    I hope that the bullet for Erdogan has already been cast and is waiting in the wings!
  30. kingoff
    kingoff 26 November 2015 12: 26 New
    0
    Quote: Egoza
    By the way, Kazakhstan Vanga warns that in the 2016 year in Kazakhstan there may be a repetition of Ukraine and there will be many clashes for sure, it urges people to change their minds and look at Ukraine, what will happen if they respond to the calls of "some".


    Every cook is a marshal, every fortuneteller is the last resort.
  31. tracer
    tracer 26 November 2015 12: 27 New
    +3
    With the Chinese, the ear must be kept sharp. This is a civilization thrown. They have such a culture, and nature too. With the Janissaries easier .. They are traditional enemies of Russia have been and will be. It would be nice to put them in their place. But nothing special. Military production is only being reborn, and then with great difficulties. So, while the Janissary seriously nothing to resonate. You can make a joke ... need ...
    1. esaull
      esaull 26 November 2015 17: 48 New
      0
      Yes, I really would not like to see the same day with the Chinese
  32. Belousov
    Belousov 26 November 2015 12: 37 New
    +1
    How did you get into the camp of accomplices? Did he leave somewhere?
    Erdogan has already backed off. The vaunted Nato thrust the advertised 5th article into one dark, deep place, thereby showing that they did not burn with desire to arrange a real batch with an angry Russia, especially if the reason for the batch was only Turks. Incidentally, this should be taken into account by other particularly noisy countries, which all reiterate, "Nato come, protect us." As it turned out, Nato comes only when it is profitable for him and there is no danger to grab the lyuley and spoil his own beautiful glamorous face.
    The Kurds must be unequivocally armed. Yes, we control the territory of Syria, however, the Kurds will be able to provide Erdogan with a sweet life on the territory of Turkey itself. Erdogan wanted to build a buffer zone in northern Syria supposedly to help refugees? Well, let's bring this good purpose to life. That's just the buffer it will be for the PKK. First, clean everything there, we are from the air, on the ground, the Kurds themselves, clean. Then block the border (which means depriving ISIS of money, ammunition, medicine and other pleasures of life) and launch the Kurds there for the settlement. The Turks, of course, will be indignant, but they will not be able to fly anyway, because the slightest flight beyond the territory will be severely suppressed.
    The bottom line:
    1) Isil will remain with a pretty battered wallet, without regular replenishment of weapons and militants,
    2) Erdogan will simply be left without money, but it will gain even greater problems with the Kurds than now,
    3) Kurds keep the northern regions of Syria "clean", which will allow concentrating attacks in other directions,
    4) we will take revenge as a whole and show that you can’t get in touch with Russia, the answer will be extremely unpleasant.
  33. Talgat 148
    Talgat 148 26 November 2015 12: 52 New
    0
    Turkish is not taught in schools in Kazakhstan. Nobody wears the national clothes of the Turks. But there are many Orthodox churches. Many Russian schools and teaching in Russian !!!
    The Runet cannot recognize Kazakhstan and its people as its ally.
  34. Oprichnik
    Oprichnik 26 November 2015 13: 16 New
    +1
    Erdogan is a mad bandit. Having set himself the goal of building his Caliphate, he lost the coast, his manners are wild, and his methods are scumbag. He holds the whole of Europe for Kukan, levies a tribute from the European Union to help refugees, threatening to smuggle them to the neck of Europeans. (He has 2 million more left). Daesh is his child conceived together by Qatar and KSA.
    Two directions: to flood Europe with Muslims, and then throw these armed and shelled thugs at it when it ends with Syria and Israel. Neither he nor the USA needs Europeans. And Ukraine will serve as a distractor for Russia. Fuck with her that there will be nothing left of the Ukrainians, but this territory on the maps of the Iblis state as its own. It is necessary to end with Turkey, Qatar. But this is war.
    And European politicians hope that they will carry, or they are completely, six American, or, more precisely, transnational corporations.
  35. Val_y
    Val_y 26 November 2015 14: 02 New
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Compared to how much Russia and Russian citizens invested in the Turkish economy and infrastructure

    Now let our oligarchs bankrupt these enterprises from the Ottomans and invest in the real economy of Russia
  36. kingoff
    kingoff 26 November 2015 14: 27 New
    -2
    Quote: Talgat 148

    Although all the Kazakhs are on your side and condemn the attack of Turkish fighters.


    I would not say everyone, there are no right-wingers in a fight, both sides are always to blame, we need to distance ourselves from such fights as Russia-Ukraine, Russia-Turkey, we have enough of our problems.
  37. kingoff
    kingoff 26 November 2015 14: 29 New
    -1
    Quote: Talgat 148

    The Runet cannot recognize Kazakhstan and its people as its ally.


    Do we need it? We live on our own.
  38. Dimon-chik-79
    Dimon-chik-79 26 November 2015 14: 49 New
    +2
    Turkish President Recep Erdogan, this is today's Hitler with the idea of ​​fix, about the Great Ottoman Empire! Yes, in fact, IS is a synthesis of the reincarnations of that perished empire and the Third Reich. And from the very beginning it was clear that it wasn’t possible to lure him with the Turkish Stream, why when there is a project of the Qatari Pipe on which it would be possible to plant decrepit Europe over time. And to this day, everything turned out for him as well as possible. Is it a joke with such a huge army of bloody terrorists holding Europe with millions of refugees (and not only) for Adam's apple, he could bring the whole Middle East to its knees, here it is a revived empire. But since September 30, things have gone wrong. Moreover, this coalition is taking shape (Russia, France and (nevertheless, as she did not want to) Germany). So the nerves are being handed over. I really want to arrange a flight and buffer zone, they didn’t calculate a little, they didn’t fill the plane there, oh again, not there!
  39. Lone wolf
    Lone wolf 26 November 2015 14: 56 New
    +3
    in the union with us Kazakhstan in the schools have already introduced the teaching of the Turkish language. Half a dozen Turkish channels are legally broadcasting in the country, and girls instead of takya or borika (women's national hats) donned hijabs and even niqabs.
    the author ,,,, drink iyaduuuu ,,,,, you guys are stuck with attacks on your own .. damn saliva dripping I bite everything in a row ... so that Gena Golovkin tapped you on the turnip .... Come to Kazakhstan .. find the Turkish language in the program of the comprehensive school ,,, it’s not there, I’m responsible for it as the father of 3 children ... and look how many beautiful Kazakh women are on the street and how many fools are in niqabs and hijabs ... but do you know about saukele ????? Yes, on the Internet at least write about Kazakhstan before scribbling it .... Damn, we are behind us MOSCOW and you are about us ... Let's minus and go to the sauna honestly
  40. aba
    aba 26 November 2015 14: 58 New
    0
    I found a Russian-Yigilny phrasebook on Ineta: the translation "allaevbar" in different situations. I think it is worthy of attention.
  41. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 26 November 2015 15: 04 New
    +1
    Here it is the true face of Erdogan.
    "Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that in case of violation of the country's airspace, the authorities will act the same as with the Russian Su-24 bomber, RIA Novosti reports."
    Original news RT in Russian:
    https://russian.rt.com/article/132876
  42. Fastenkov
    Fastenkov 26 November 2015 15: 15 New
    +1
    Erdogan became an accomplice of terrorists only for US. Europe and the United States have already blamed the incident on a local showdown. They knew about the transit of oil and bandits across the Turkish border before. So the situation has not changed ANYTHING.
    Our opinion will not be heard (DO WE NEED IT AT ALL?) By the West until there is a Russian base in the region. The world respects only power. A strong president is respected in the country. In the area - a strong kid. There is power - do as you need. If you also take into account the opinions of others - the leader.
    Who cares who supports the terrorists? We decided to liquidate them and reassure Syria. Well, you need to do this without paying attention to local dogs. Su - this is very disappointing. This, so do not leave. But this is only the inevitability of war.
    And we, by the way, very selectively record him as terrorists. Did you know that the transit of bandits goes through Turkey? They knew! Did you know about the oil and generally the economic mediation of the Turks? They knew! In the meantime, have not shot down the plane - not an accomplice?
    Order in our thoughts and we are lacking. And as he finds it, there will be happiness and peace in the whole world.
    1. iliya87
      iliya87 26 November 2015 16: 16 New
      +1
      Yes, that’s not the problem. The order of forces in the Arab region is fundamentally decided. In particular, with the Syrian Kurds, the media is not a word about this (from senior officials) what is actually planned? There is no doubt that they will be given autonomy and most likely just this, and not how many supplies (left oil) not only Turkey but the United States and the West are afraid of. Why? The answer is simple. The Kurds will revolt in Turkey and will almost certainly grab a piece of oil transportation territory. And the Kurds with Syria under (autonomy in their favor) will become an automatic machine in good relations, and therefore with Russia. And this is the PPC for Turkey and the United States. The US goal is to control the supply of oil and gas from Arab countries to Asia and Europe and to this they sewed all this time and almost came! Now imagine that the Russians will suddenly control this flow, but how do you like it? They tore the ass, and then we came and pushed them. Yes, to hell there, they will fight to the end, otherwise it is a failure of all politics, the whole plan and all the US successes already achieved along this path.
  43. nemets
    nemets 26 November 2015 17: 08 New
    0
    "Syrian adventure"
    zero result in the usa with 5200 sorties in three years !!!! but the crafts do not allow us to bomb the usa plus the terrorists themselves are clearly working there, if anything !!! we start to bomb, they will raise the hi that we are bombing peacefully. in the end, what will it lead to ?!
    But I talked about it !!! I'm sorry that came true. I hope the second statement does not come true
  44. partizan86
    partizan86 26 November 2015 17: 39 New
    -1
    He hasn't apologized yet.
    He needs a new Arab spring, but he needs to plan it better than the Americans, given their mistakes and with minimal casualties.
    All over the world and the majority respects only power, it's time to remember everything.
  45. Dad Uassia
    Dad Uassia 26 November 2015 18: 16 New
    +1
    How is the USA doing? They create such conditions for the state / head of the city and offer an offer that cannot be refused. And also it is worth considering that the party of Erdogan in the USA is not like, as well as the Turkish generals. And also the USA did not like that Turkey wants to join the Shanghai organization, that Turkey did not impose sanctions against us, and also that the Russian Federation wants to bypass the gas pipeline through Turkey (by the way, Ukraine too). It is possible that the United States ordered the Turkish generals to bring down our plane, so that Erdogan, in order not to lose face, would agree to the downing of our plane. The United States wants to pull us into Syria, just like in Afghanistan, so that we send troops into Syria and spend the loot for war, and not for the economy. And they do it as usual with the wrong hands.
  46. Rigla
    Rigla 26 November 2015 21: 31 New
    +1
    Georgians and Ukrainians loudly relish in the meantime shots on which our guys are shot in the air am and some blind people continue to call these ethnic folk our brothers and their children ... ugh. they are our enemies forever.