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Russian MFA: one should not expect objectivity from the “NATO colleagues” regarding the incident with Su-24

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Moscow does not expect objectivity from NATO in the situation with the Su-24 plane shot down by the Turks, the alliance, of course, will take the side of Ankara, reports RIA News Statement by Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov.




“The situation is extremely alarming. I don’t think that objectivity can be expected from NATO colleagues here - the Turkish side will be taken as an ally, ”
said the diplomat.

“Turkey is already replicating the version about the numerous warnings of our crew that allegedly took place,” Ryabkov said, adding that less than a day ago the Turkish side had said something completely different: “that it was an unidentified aircraft with an unidentified national identity”.

According to him, “in this situation it is important to implement a set of measures to protect our forces and equipment from such unprecedented and criminal attacks.”
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  1. Aleksandr2012
    Aleksandr2012 25 November 2015 12: 49 New
    +2
    Yes, the "NATO colleagues", if desired, themselves will merge their colleague, if it is beneficial to them.
    1. Metallurgist
      Metallurgist 25 November 2015 12: 52 New
      +7
      Notice, neither probaltsy, nor psheki mouth open. For take off the conversation and it will be completely short.
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 25 November 2015 12: 58 New
        +1
        neither probalts, nor psheki mouth open
        Seichas for a hot hand is better, b ... lin, do not! (to put it mildly) But, anyway, they wait until it dies down to sprinkle with their low-risk core!

        Russian Foreign Ministry: objectivity should not be expected from NATO colleagues
        We must inject them into the BAR-BASHKA objectivity!
        1. obraztsov
          obraztsov 25 November 2015 13: 47 New
          0
          After covering the Russian air base with S-400 complexes, I propose to announce to Turkey that no more Turkish aircraft that have committed any aggressive actions will be able to land.
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 25 November 2015 13: 57 New
            +2
            Actually, there was no incident. An incident is when by accident, by mistake, by accident.
            1. Glavmec
              Glavmec 25 November 2015 15: 20 New
              0
              Of course, it is no coincidence: they shot at the catapulted crew only in order not to leave living witnesses! I wonder what they will babble when the navigator gives an interview?
      2. mad
        mad 25 November 2015 13: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: Metallurg
        Notice, neither probaltsy, nor psheki mouth open. For take off the conversation and it will be completely short.


        I think they will be bent. Just yet no team, no training manuals what to yap ...
    2. Vend
      Vend 25 November 2015 12: 53 New
      +1
      Turks lied. Trying to distort the mattress covers. The student is trying to surpass the teacher
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 25 November 2015 12: 54 New
      17
      Yes, this drunken hedgehog was understandable only yesterday, now you need to correctly answer Erdogan, to hell the whole area with the earth and close the sky and prevent this from happening on, you need to rely only on yourself.
      1. WKS
        WKS 25 November 2015 13: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: 79807420129
        Yes, this drunken hedgehog was understandable only yesterday, now you need to correctly answer Erdogan, to hell the whole area with the earth and close the sky and prevent this from happening on, you need to rely only on yourself.

        It is enough to look at this mug once to understand all its cunning and deceit. Break diplomatic relations with Turkey until this city is in power there.
      2. Nick
        Nick 25 November 2015 13: 06 New
        +1
        Quote: 79807420129
        now you need to answer Erdogan correctly, to hell the whole area with the earth and close the sky and not allow this in the future, you need to rely only on yourself.

        I completely agree! And also to raze the air base with which this Turkish piggus took off
      3. venaya
        venaya 25 November 2015 13: 12 New
        +3
        Quote: 79807420129
        to hell the whole area with land and close the sky and to prevent this from happening on, one needs to rely only on oneself.

        About the fact that close the sky, so the existing incident with the SU-24 is already a sufficient reason for this. I think that the UN will be able to approve such a measure, and of course it is necessary to take full advantage of this fate.
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2015 13: 01 New
      13
      stolen from the web, clickable:
    5. NEXUS
      NEXUS 25 November 2015 13: 08 New
      +5
      Quote: Aleksandr2012
      Yes, the "NATO colleagues", if desired, themselves will merge their colleague, if it is beneficial to them.

      It’s necessary to understand that after knocking down our plane, NATO checks us for the rigidity of the retaliatory steps. Therefore, the answer will be and I think it is quite tough both in the military sense, and in the economic and political. We simply have not left a choice. And here the question is not ambition, but self-esteem.
    6. shooter18
      shooter18 25 November 2015 13: 21 New
      +1
      Putin’s exact statement: "What do you want to put NATO at the service of ISIS" .. apparently they want ..
    7. yushch
      yushch 25 November 2015 13: 44 New
      +1
      And yet I think our Foreign Ministry said "NATO cripples," not "colleagues."
    8. yushch
      yushch 25 November 2015 13: 44 New
      0
      And yet I think our Foreign Ministry said "NATO cripples," not "colleagues."
    9. gergi
      gergi 25 November 2015 17: 48 New
      +1
      Flies and gov.o are not separable. This is not Turkish aggression, this is NATO aggression!
  2. avvg
    avvg 25 November 2015 12: 51 New
    +5
    NATO has always been for Russia a potential enemy, a potential carrier of danger, but what can be expected from the enemies of Russia?
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 25 November 2015 12: 53 New
      +4
      And in our country they are called partners for some reason ???
      1. Metallurgist
        Metallurgist 25 November 2015 12: 57 New
        +4
        In the light of the latest events of the year, it is politically correct to call them "partners." Well, do not call them whores? This is not diplomatic. And so - a partner ... they just don’t add “passive”, but those who are in the know know it.
      2. mad
        mad 25 November 2015 13: 04 New
        +3
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        And in our country they are called partners for some reason?


        It seems to me that over the past couple of years the meaning of this word has been transformed to the opposite. In politics, all shit has to be called allegorically.
  3. kurs66
    kurs66 25 November 2015 12: 53 New
    +2
    The pilot will say how it really was, then let's look at the faces of the Turks and their "colleagues" in NATO.
    1. Nick
      Nick 25 November 2015 13: 07 New
      0
      Quote: kurs66
      The pilot will say how it really was, then let's look at the faces of the Turks and their "colleagues" in NATO.

      Objective control data already said everything
  4. prabiz
    prabiz 25 November 2015 12: 53 New
    0
    Russia missed a stab in the back from Turkey and will respond. But this does not mean that we should forget that this blow was received during the fight on a much larger scale than our relations with Turkey. Fights, the stakes in which are huge and the outcome of which Turkey itself cannot have any serious impact.

    During this battle there will be victories and defeats, advance and retreat, gain and loss. This war is, thank God, that so far it has been going on with relatively little human blood. Two hero pilots who were shot during a landing after bailing out of a destroyed Su-24 will not be forgotten and forgiven. But our main goal now is the operation in Syria - and it will continue.
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 25 November 2015 12: 54 New
      +3
      prabiz (1) SU Today, 12:53 PM
      Two hero pilots shot during a landing after bailout from a destroyed Su-24

      the pilot and marines are dead! The navigator is alive and delivered to our air base! Please correct the text ...
      1. streletz
        streletz 25 November 2015 13: 02 New
        +1
        The Decree of the President of Russia “On Awarding State Prizes of the Russian Federation by the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation” has been published on the Kremlin’s website.

        For heroism, courage and bravery shown in the performance of military duty, Lt. Col. Peshkov Oleg Anatolyevich was awarded the title Hero of the Russian Federation (posthumously).

        For courage, bravery and dedication shown in the performance of military duty, captain Murakhtin Konstantin Valerievich and sailor Pozychnich Alexander Mikhailovich (posthumously) were awarded the Orders of Courage.
        1. Fregate
          Fregate 25 November 2015 13: 52 New
          0
          Quote: streletz
          For heroism, courage and bravery shown in the performance of military duty, Lt. Col. Peshkov Oleg Anatolyevich was awarded the title Hero of the Russian Federation (posthumously).

          For courage, bravery and dedication shown in the performance of military duty, captain Murakhtin Konstantin Valerievich and sailor Pozychnich Alexander Mikhailovich (posthumously) were awarded the Orders of Courage.

          Wait. Earlier it was reported that the deceased pilot's name was Sergey Rumyantsev. And you have two posthumously in the lists and among them there isn’t him. So we have 3 losses? Or some data is not correct by last name?
      2. Shpagolom
        Shpagolom 25 November 2015 13: 14 New
        +1



        so coolly shot our turntable ((
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 25 November 2015 13: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Shpagolom

          so coolly shot our turntable ((

          So she’s already abandoned, don’t shoot
          1. BIGLESHIY
            BIGLESHIY 25 November 2015 16: 26 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote: Shpagolom

            so coolly shot our turntable ((

            So she’s already abandoned, don’t shoot

            Like jackals over a corpse of a lion - it’s safe.
    2. Nick
      Nick 25 November 2015 13: 11 New
      +1
      Quote: prabiz
      Our main goal now is the operation in Syria - and it will continue.

      Not just continued, but radically intensified should be, and conducted extremely tough and decisive!
  5. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 25 November 2015 12: 53 New
    +1
    And Maria Zakharova told the State Department to remember this day! Why is she? Not to the F16pad?
    1. Hon
      Hon 25 November 2015 13: 05 New
      0
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      And Maria Zakharova told the State Department to remember this day! Why is she? Not to the F16pad?

      doubtful of that. she is just one of the talkers, to work with her mouth, the only function. it’s important not what someone said, but what they kept silent about. Muhammad Ziya-ul-Haku Badaber did not get away ...
    2. sssla
      sssla 25 November 2015 13: 08 New
      0
      Quote: VNP1958PVN
      And Maria Zakharova told the State Department to remember this day! Why is she?

      Moreover, each country has every right to defend itself and shoot down any aircraft - as the State Department said in defense of Turkey
  6. sir_obs
    sir_obs 25 November 2015 12: 53 New
    +2
    Take the word "colleagues" and "partners" from the vocabulary, regarding NATO, please.
    1. SAM 5
      SAM 5 25 November 2015 13: 47 New
      0
      Take the word "colleagues" and "partners" from the vocabulary, regarding NATO, please.

      ... and enter "friends" and "comrades."
  7. DOMINO100
    DOMINO100 25 November 2015 12: 55 New
    0
    probaltsy say silent))) yes are you kidding? the whole Lithuanian branch is jammed about the plane. and that was what it was necessary to do with the Russians. the lathes are hovering the same thing! the epochs are silent for now ...
  8. izya top
    izya top 25 November 2015 12: 55 New
    +1
    Yes, no one expects objectivity from Nat. From a word in general
  9. lobik
    lobik 25 November 2015 12: 55 New
    -1
    Quote: avvg
    NATO has always considered Russia a potential enemy.

    And they’re doing it right. It’s only for Russians everywhere that brothers and friends seem to be shooting at any opportunity and shoot in the back.
  10. ydjin
    ydjin 25 November 2015 12: 57 New
    +1
    It would be strange to expect objectivity from this gang of accomplices!
  11. as150505
    as150505 25 November 2015 13: 00 New
    +2
    Today I’ll burn the Turkish flag at home. I bought this flag in Turkey, I was wondering why it was for me, but no, it’s useful. Or as an option legs can be wiped on this flag.
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 25 November 2015 13: 12 New
      +1
      Put it under the door and use both to scrub or a rag to clean the floor !!!!!!!
  12. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 November 2015 13: 01 New
    +2
    I don’t think that here we can expect objectivity from our NATO colleagues - Turkey’s side will obviously be taken as an ally

    And no one else expected. But they died noticeably, even fenced off the actions of Turkey.
    In our country, some individuals are already calling for composure, a sober approach and reasonable actions towards Turkey. It turns out that today the plane, tomorrow the ship, and the day after tomorrow? But should Russia calmly and soberly think about rational actions?
  13. Stinger
    Stinger 25 November 2015 13: 02 New
    +1
    We do not expect. All NATO songs are known to us. Both words and music.
  14. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 25 November 2015 13: 08 New
    +1
    Erdogan decided to check Russia for lice, as though it weren’t necessary to regret it, Russia did not take revenge, but she remembers those who spat in her soul.
  15. Belarus
    Belarus 25 November 2015 13: 10 New
    0
    According to him, “in this situation it is important to implement a set of measures to protect our forces and equipment from such unprecedented and criminal attacks.”

    This had to be done yesterday, so as not to sprinkle ash on my head today.
    As regards NATO, expecting something else from this police organization would be strange.
    Russia needs NATO itself to mean as an enemy and not even potential but real.All disagreements within this organization (NATO) arise only because of their own benefit for their country and that’s all.
  16. Belarus
    Belarus 25 November 2015 13: 17 New
    0
    Russian Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova commented on a statement by the US State Department spokesman in an incident involving a Russian plane shot down by Turkey.

    “Remember these words. Forever remember. And I will never forget. I promise, ”Zakharova wrote on her Facebook page.

    Recall, earlier, the official representative of the US State Department, Mark Toner, said that the department did not exclude that the shooting at the catapulted Russian pilots of the Su-24 by the Syrian Turkmen was their defense.

    “If the Turkmen forces were attacked by Russian air strikes, they could defend themselves,” Toner said when asked about the actions of the Syrian Turkmen, who shot at the catapulted pilots of the Russian Su-24.

    Maria Zakharova also drew attention to the answer of the representative of the State Department to the question whether shooting at unarmed pilots who were catapulted can be considered self-defense.

    “He replied that“ there is no clear understanding of what really happened there, ”” she wrote.

    On Tuesday, the Russian Su-24 crashed in Syria. Russian President Vladimir Putin said the plane was shot down by an air-to-air missile from Turkish F-16 over Syrian territory and crashed in Syria four kilometers from the border with Turkey. The Russian president called it a “stab in the back” by terrorist accomplices.


    After such American delirium, I began to hate Americans and others like them even more. And I always spoke and will tell my children that America is a country that is worthy of destruction.
  17. lobik
    lobik 25 November 2015 13: 20 New
    +2
    It is necessary to cancel the visa-free regime. What else needs to happen so that the Russians stop going on vacation to these countries.
  18. scrap123
    scrap123 25 November 2015 13: 21 New
    +2
    burn the whole area with napalm so that the stones melt
  19. Wolka
    Wolka 25 November 2015 13: 22 New
    0
    the rhetoric will change when the Russian intelligible adequate answer is realized
  20. Kibl
    Kibl 25 November 2015 13: 24 New
    +2
    NATO has unfastened its chain dog! It’s necessary to cut off this bitch! At all times, starting with the Brilliant Porta, the Ottoman Empire and modern Turkey, it was a hotbed of militarism, which was always fueled by the British and now NATO and the USA!
  21. olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 25 November 2015 13: 26 New
    +1
    One statement is dumber than another.
    Yes, it is not necessary to expect, but the Turkish terrorists must be answered in such a way that not people and creatures wiped their blood.
    Again, on the Russian side, a slurred mumble.
    The decisive answer lies in the serious tone of the TV announcers covering the attack of Turkish terrorists on our plane returning to the base - and that’s all, there’s no more answer.
    The reward for the ruined warriors is neither hot nor cold. They are gone and never will be. Never. Why have they been destroyed? For fighting against Isil. Now these Igilovsky terrorist muzzles of Turkish nationality mock their memory, and Russia expected something else? Was it not known that Erdogan is a terrorist rabble that makes capital on brutal killings?
    At a minimum, at a minimum, it is necessary that the state of Kurdistan appears in order to tread this bloody creature Erdogan in a causal place.
    And it hurts me so much for these guys. Yes, I wasn’t so offended by the plane. It hurts for those who fought and were vile, it is gnawingly and vilely killed. It hurts because they are the BEST of our guys.
  22. Mr.
    Mr. Fun 25 November 2015 13: 43 New
    +1
    Russian MFA: one should not expect objectivity from the “NATO colleagues” regarding the incident with Su-24

    In general, the words "NATO" and "objectivity" appearing in the same sentence - this is somehow implausible! They will arrange another circus, where all the animals will gather. The trainer knows who ...
  23. Shpagolom
    Shpagolom 25 November 2015 13: 48 New
    0
    ... Everything is planned, a fact, but what had to be done?
    1. iouris
      iouris 25 November 2015 14: 10 New
      0
      Everything is correct. The loss of an airplane is the first combat loss - the result of the inaction or incompetence of the Foreign Ministry and the General Staff. Our plane is destroyed by NATO. France is a member of NATO
      Had
      1) as a matter of priority, take control of the territory in the area of ​​the "ledge" where the plane was shot down and crew members landed after the bailout.
      2) before the completion of the ground operation, organize fighter cover for aircraft flying near the Turkish border and in the area of ​​the ledge,
      3) to respond harshly to all attempts of the Turkish Air Force to "accompany" our planes ("we are allies in a" joint "fight against DAESh).
      4) "work" with the United States and Turkey through diplomatic channels, recording all attempts to prevent the implementation of the mission by airplanes of the Russian Aerospace Forces.
  24. marna
    marna 25 November 2015 13: 58 New
    0
    What kind of objectivity can NATO talk about. Well, that we are small children, that for us these two years of lies passed without a trace ?! Funny just ...
  25. Xapoh
    Xapoh 25 November 2015 14: 54 New
    0
    Gentlemen, for some reason, everyone has forgotten the principles on which the policy of Uncle Sam and his henchmen rests, double standards. It's simple, TURKEY has the right to cross other people's borders with impunity, in particular the borders of Greece, and cross the borders of TURKEY - no way, violation of sovereignty.
  26. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 25 November 2015 15: 10 New
    0
    The West today is an extremely overgrown structure! Now there is almost nothing left but to punish each individually!
  27. Xapoh
    Xapoh 25 November 2015 15: 38 New
    0
    Well, the whole west cannot be punished, the reserves of the Russian economy are not so powerful.
  28. afrikanez
    afrikanez 25 November 2015 16: 12 New
    0
    well, what else can you expect from striped skunks. Of course, the Turks will be whitewashed. But time will put everything in its place
  29. Zavzik
    Zavzik 25 November 2015 17: 30 New
    -3
    It’s interesting, why didn’t the Su-24 use the “Khibiny” complex, which blinds and dampens not just f-16s, but the whole Donald Cook? AND???
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 26 November 2015 01: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Zavzik
      It’s interesting, why didn’t the Su-24 use the “Khibiny” complex, which blinds and dampens not just f-16s, but the whole Donald Cook? AND???

      Firstly, the Khibiny complex does not blind anything, but creates “phantoms” of the aircraft, confusing the rocket ...
      Secondly, the Aegis system on Kuk was drowned out not by the Khibiny, but by the MONOLIT coastal radar complex and at least 10 other surveillance systems that Kook conducted. Sensitive destroyer electronics simply roared when tracking systems worked one after another.
      Do not write nonsense.
    2. NEXUS
      NEXUS 26 November 2015 01: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: Zavzik
      from wondering why the su-24 didn’t use the equivalent of the khibiny complex

      Most likely, Birch trees were not turned on at our dryer, and therefore our pilots didn’t see the F-16 missile, so we didn’t even have time to do a missile evasion maneuver.
      And your bothering here is not camille at all.
  30. BNM
    BNM 25 November 2015 19: 22 New
    +1
    Quote: Zavzik
    It’s interesting, why didn’t the Su-24 use the “Khibiny” complex, which blinds and dampens not just f-16s, but the whole Donald Cook? AND???

    whom to suppress hibinomi? wild bearded ueba ..... s running through the woods and wiping jo ... chtoli with stones? No one can think that the Turks are mra..and this could go. if necessary, they will apply, and if they apply then let them not whine as usual yes Eternal memory to pilots HEROES!