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Possible answer to Recep Tayypich

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Turkey for the last two months has periodically announced that it is developing plans to create a buffer zone in Syrian territory.


Declaratively, the buffer zone was necessary in order to prevent the penetration of ISIS militants (a terrorist organization banned in Russia). In fact, this corridor is used to supply terrorists. weapons, for the passage of new "jihadists." There are videos on the Internet: terrorists during the bombing of Russian videoconferencing systems move to Turkey to return to Syrian territory after its completion.



On the map in yellow are the territories controlled by Syrian Kurds (respectively, closed to ISIS). The territory controlled by ISIS is marked in gray, the Syrian opposition is in green. The width of this territory is about ninety kilometers.

The Syrian army, with the support of the Russian Aerospace Forces, is faced with the task of occupying this area to facilitate further the task of liberating Aleppo. Without solving this problem, the release of Aleppo will be like an attempt to scoop out water from the bath when the faucet is open. Remember the school? Through the pipe №1 water flows into the pool ...

What are we seeing at the moment?

Due to the complication of the situation in the region, the Turkish armed forces are pulling forward units to the border with Syria. This was reported by the information portal military-informant.com. It is noted that the main combat troops are being transferred to the border with Syria. Tanks and Turkish Army Air Defense Systems.
The Turkish army and air force are put on alert after the incident with the Russian front bomber Su-24, which was shot down after the invasion of Turkish airspace.


A source: "News of New Russia".

It is not difficult to guess that for the implementation of this task, Erdogan will need air support of the Turkish units. And the Russian side now has the full right to "land" Turkish aircraft over Syrian territory, including the territory controlled by Syrian Kurds.
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    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 27 November 2015 08: 26 New
      17
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Well, I think that with 400 Turks it will not allow flying in that area.

      Erdogan has already blundered about this.
      Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in an interview with CNN, said that Ankara would regard the situation when its combat aircraft violated Syria’s airspace and was shot down with the help of a Russian anti-aircraft missile system.

      Do we have enough political will to order the downing of a Turkish plane if it violates the border? request
      1. True
        True 27 November 2015 08: 53 New
        +1
        Well, then Gaddafi, Hussein, Milosevic ...
      2. ROD VDVshny
        ROD VDVshny 27 November 2015 09: 09 New
        +3
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Erdogan already blundered

        He sweeps his tongue and can no longer stop:
        Erdogan: Turkish Fighters independently started shelling the Su-24
        http://vz.ru/news/2015/11/27/780528.html
      3. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 27 November 2015 09: 11 New
        +5
        The main thing is that the air defense reaction time is sufficient so that the Turkish letak falls in Syria.
      4. Vita vko
        Vita vko 27 November 2015 09: 35 New
        +9
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Do we have enough political will to order the downing of a Turkish plane if it violates the border?

        Every Turkish aircraft has an air defense sensor. Now imagine a situation when in a mountainous area of ​​a Turkish plane all communication and navigation systems, including a radio altimeter, fail, and then a panel for irradiation of an air defense system, and maybe even an anti-aircraft missile launch, lights up. In this case, it is not necessary to shoot anyone down, the pilot himself ejected. All this is easy to arrange with the help of electronic warfare systems.
        1. amirbek
          amirbek 27 November 2015 11: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: Vita VKO
          All this is easy to arrange with the help of electronic warfare systems.

          And on the monitor, an inscription or picture can I throw some kind of?
      5. Dr. Lecturer
        Dr. Lecturer 27 November 2015 11: 31 New
        +1
        I'm afraid not enough
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 27 November 2015 08: 22 New
    12
    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in an interview with CNN, said that Ankara would regard the situation when its combat aircraft violated Syria’s airspace and was shot down with the help of a Russian anti-aircraft missile system.


    The roof of the provocateur went completely, lives in a virtual world.

    http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/11/27/n_7940627.shtml
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 27 November 2015 08: 25 New
      +6
      The roof didn’t go, the president’s harsh statement should look just like that, it’s a pity that we didn’t speak so harshly about Turkey.
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 08: 31 New
        17
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        The roof did not go, just like that a tough statement by the president should look

        Only after his announcement, much of the world considers him a scumbag.
        1. anip
          anip 27 November 2015 09: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Only after his announcement, much of the world considers him a scumbag.

          What part of the world is this? Russia and ... everything?
        2. sherp2015
          sherp2015 27 November 2015 09: 11 New
          +3
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Only after his announcement, much of the world considers him a scumbag.


          This scumbag has a master ...
          1. Banshee
            Banshee 27 November 2015 10: 05 New
            +3
            Quote: sherp2015
            This scumbag has a master ...


            The owner does not have a scumbag. And it makes him extremely uncomfortable scumbag. For all, without exception.
        3. AlexTires
          AlexTires 27 November 2015 09: 16 New
          +1
          That's it! And NATO, I think, will not particularly harness for Turkey in this case ...
        4. Semyonych
          Semyonych 27 November 2015 09: 16 New
          +1
          Tell this to the widow and children of the deceased pilot.
        5. Dyagilev
          Dyagilev 27 November 2015 09: 34 New
          +1
          Only after his announcement, much of the world considers him a scumbag
          Why then do we need troops? For the parades? What will the rest of the pilots say when an orange embargo is declared in response to the victims.
        6. Dr. Lecturer
          Dr. Lecturer 27 November 2015 09: 53 New
          -3
          It is interesting who thinks so. You can list.
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 27 November 2015 08: 52 New
        -8
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        The roof didn’t go, just like that a tough statement by the president should look like,

        ... for which he has every reason: those fighting on the side of the Syrian army of Hezbollah are "the party of Allah": a militarized Shiite association from the "Muslim Brotherhood", Erdogan himself - from the party generated by them - "Brothers ..."
        ... And how many of our - and not only ours - Hezbollah diplomats were killed? how many explosions did they arrange? ... But - this is the Lebanese party, and these "sons of bitches" are ours ...
      3. Dr. Lecturer
        Dr. Lecturer 27 November 2015 09: 52 New
        -1
        Totally agree.
      4. 1976AG
        1976AG 27 November 2015 10: 50 New
        0
        Saying is one thing, let's see what he will do.
    2. Altona
      Altona 27 November 2015 08: 26 New
      16
      Yes, Erdogan seems to have launched another Russian-Turkish war. His rhetoric is warlike, he does not apologize and has become quite similar to his Ukrainian salted, non-European brothers ...
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 27 November 2015 10: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Altona
        has become quite similar to its Ukrainian salted non-European brothers
        They are conducted from one console, so there is a "complete accordion".
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 08: 30 New
      11
      And the Russian side now has the full right to “land” Turkish aircraft over Syrian territory, including over the territory controlled by Syrian Kurds.
      Erdogan has already said that if we bring down his plane, he will answer. The moron went completely off the roof.
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 27 November 2015 08: 34 New
        +9
        Erdogan was ordered, and Uncle Sam is rubbing his paws now in anticipation of a bigger mess.
        1. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 27 November 2015 08: 57 New
          +8
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          Erdogan was ordered, and Uncle Sam is rubbing his paws now in anticipation of a bigger mess.

          I think it’s worth reminding the World that we have the right to use tactical nuclear weapons. If it does not reach the full extent in Turkey. the Americans still won’t jerk. And if they fight, we still have nothing to lose if Turkey engages in a war against us. Sad But Erdogan went into the bank. There are no brains.
          1. Altona
            Altona 27 November 2015 09: 04 New
            0
            Quote: Oleg147741
            The world that we have the right to use tactical nuclear weapons.

            -------------------
            I would not want to reach the 102nd ... We are, after all, the guarantor of peace on the entire planet, a permanent member of the UN Security Council ...
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 09: 12 New
              +1
              Quote: Altona
              .We, after all, are the guarantor of peace on the whole planet, a permanent member of the UN Security Council ..

              Antalya will become a resort in Russia, this is the guarantee of peace.
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 27 November 2015 08: 39 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Erdogan has already said, if we take down his plane, he will answer.



        Well, this is still a long way off ... but the pilots already seem to think maybe in the medical unit or on vacation for longer ... laughing Hi Sanya .. laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 08: 47 New
          +6
          Quote: vorobey
          well, this is still a long way off

          Not Sanya, not far away, his time is running out, he wants to recreate the great Ottoman empire, and he cannot allow the Syrian army to occupy the territory of Turkmens. Events will develop very quickly, I can smell it, but it has not let me down.
          Healthy hi
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 27 November 2015 09: 01 New
            +7
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            his time is running out, he wants to recreate the great Ottoman Empire


            well .. then for the desire to coincide with the possibilities .. drinks


            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Events will develop very quickly.


            Well then for the Constantinople Federal District drinks


            Today I drink my next holiday .. laughing
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 09: 11 New
              +2
              Quote: vorobey
              well .. then for the desire to coincide with the possibilities ..

              Come on 100 drinks
              Quote: vorobey
              Well then for the Constantinople Federal District

              Sanya, well, not so fast, I have not sniffed the first one.
              Quote: vorobey
              I drink another holiday today.

              Where we are, there is victory! drinks You drink laughing
            2. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 27 November 2015 09: 12 New
              +2
              Quote: vorobey
              Today I drink my next holiday ..

              Well, congratulations to Sanya! fellow drinks hi
              1. Andrey Yuryevich
                Andrey Yuryevich 27 November 2015 09: 36 New
                +1
                Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                Well, congratulations to Sanya!

                damn ... there are already two of them! again then ... drinks
                1. Alexander Romanov
                  Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 09: 58 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  damn ... there are already two of them! again then

                  Everything, I can’t take it anymore, the liver is not official lol
                  1. Andrey Yuryevich
                    Andrey Yuryevich 27 November 2015 10: 14 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alexander Romanov
                    , the liver is not breech

                    I’m still old already! wassat hi
                2. vorobey
                  vorobey 27 November 2015 10: 17 New
                  +9
                  Quote: Andrey Yurievich
                  damn ... there are already two of them!
                  1. Alexander Romanov
                    Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 10: 23 New
                    +3
                    Quote: vorobey
                    vorobey

                    And the new Turkish stream winked
        2. Black Colonel
          Black Colonel 27 November 2015 09: 15 New
          +1
          The pilots will immediately begin to marry numerous brothers and marry numerous sisters. And such events can not be missed!
      3. ssergn
        ssergn 27 November 2015 08: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        The moron went off the roof completely.


        Quote: MT266
        Now North Korea has announced its accession to Russia, China, Iran for assistance in Syria. Kim Jong-un warned that he would use atomic weapons. (and he doesn’t let words into the wind) ..


        And we have our own such ally. laughing
      4. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 27 November 2015 08: 46 New
        +8
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Erdogan has already said, if we bring down his plane, he will answer

        will another one come?
      5. builder
        builder 27 November 2015 09: 14 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Erdogan has already said that if we bring down his plane, he will answer. The moron went completely off the roof.
      6. ksan
        ksan 27 November 2015 14: 05 New
        +1
        Erdogan has already said that if we bring down his plane, he will answer. The moron went completely off the roof.
        It is unlikely that he could bark like that without the "approvals and teachings" of the State Department. After all, the "no-fly zone" or rather the idea was very enthusiastically supported by the States, and the Amer "politicians", "presidential candidates" and "analysts" urged many; "... that the Turks need to shoot down Russian planes constantly violating the borders of Turkey." So it's time to open "Voentorg" with the Kurds. It will be stronger and more effective than any "protests". hi
    4. sannych
      sannych 27 November 2015 08: 43 New
      +7
      Acting on his own, he would not have dared to make such decisions and statements. And here he feels moral, at least, support from the United States, and he’s impudent, over. This is the height of arrogance and cynicism to say the same, it turns out in the style of the American State Department. We can shoot down any aircraft, but ours cannot, even if they are in the airspace of another country.
    5. AlexTires
      AlexTires 27 November 2015 09: 18 New
      +1
      Quote: The same Lech
      Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, in an interview with CNN, said that Ankara would regard the situation when its combat aircraft violated Syria’s airspace and was shot down with the help of a Russian anti-aircraft missile system.


      The roof of the provocateur went completely, lives in a virtual world.

      http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2015/11/27/n_7940627.shtml

      Apparently, he does not mind if a Turkish plane is shot down by our fighter! laughing
  3. Turbo rabbit
    Turbo rabbit 27 November 2015 08: 23 New
    +5
    The rat has already spoken out "Recep Tayyip Erdogan said that if the Russian S-400 air defense system hits a Turkish plane that violated Syrian airspace, then Ankara will consider such actions an aggression."
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 27 November 2015 09: 18 New
      +2
      if the Russian S-400 air defense system hits a Turkish plane that violated Syrian airspace, then Ankara will consider such actions an aggression. "
      ... and if the S-300 or "Pantsyr", then they will think.
    2. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 27 November 2015 09: 26 New
      +1
      This trash "called" a lot of things and that someone takes his nonsense seriously? Yes "crap" and now yells "good obscenities" because he was poked with his nose in his own "bunch"! And if they climb into the Syrian airspace and pose at least a "small" threat to ours, they will instantly find themselves three meters below ground level! And I don't think that these screams will impress anyone, especially ours, who are burning with the desire to make these freaks alaverdy and forever discourage the villainy in relation to Russia! Although in Russia, for some reason, all the idiots were called "Turks" for some reason, so one should not be surprised at their dense stupidity! And most importantly, this Perdogan should not hope that the States and NATO will fit in for him, the answer will be terrible, as in the song: "... you won't touch us, we won't touch us, but we won't let you touch us ..."!
  4. MT266
    MT266 27 November 2015 08: 26 New
    28
    North Korea officially announced that it would destroy Turkey if it decided to bomb Syria again. International analysts are concerned that Russia, conducting a military operation in Syria, has such allies as China and Iran. Now North Korea has announced its accession to Russia, China, Iran for assistance in Syria. Kim Jong-un warned that he would use atomic weapons. (and he doesn’t let words into the wind) ..
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 27 November 2015 08: 44 New
      +3
      I don’t even know whether or not such help is happy. Somehow I hung pondering this statement.
      Quote: MT266
      North Korea officially announced that it would destroy Turkey if it decided to bomb Syria again.
      And how will Eun deliver? Above our territory? What if it’s not enough?
      1. good7
        good7 27 November 2015 08: 51 New
        +4
        And if you fly, and why you look at the map over our territory!
        1. Tatarus
          Tatarus 27 November 2015 08: 56 New
          -4
          Quote: good7
          and why over our territory


          And who else will allow him? Yes, and ours will not be allowed. The Crimea will die out in Turkey. Well, if Eun really will be obliterated.
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          2. gjv
            gjv 27 November 2015 10: 44 New
            0
            Quote: Tatarus
            And who else will allow him?

            And who will forbid him?
            Quote: Tatarus
            And if you fly, and why you look at the map over our territory!

            Quote: Tatarus
            And how will Eun deliver? Above our territory?

            And besides the territory there is also a trajectory - ballistic, through outer space.
      2. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 27 November 2015 09: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Tatarus
        I don’t even know whether or not such help is happy. Somehow I hung pondering this statement.

        I think that I’m glad (I’m glad) because now Erdogan’s head really hurts. And the opinion of the United States and advanced Europe nevermind for North Korea. Ours would be so, but alas, oh, they have children in London and nyoryuh learn and considering there, therefore, we are tolerant, and people must endure.
      3. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 27 November 2015 10: 30 New
        +4
        No jokes, but the North Korean special forces could have started frolicing there. Koreans have no territorial claims against Syria ... They’re not ruining their own infantry ... Why don’t you check your fighters in action? And we will help with cartridges.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 27 November 2015 08: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: MT266
      Kim Jong-un warned that he would use atomic weapons. (and he doesn’t let the words go)

      oh well ... we are already used to his "words to the wind" ...
    3. andj61
      andj61 27 November 2015 09: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: MT266
      Kim Jong-un warned that he would use atomic weapons. (and he doesn’t let words into the wind) ..

      How many times have the North Koreans warned - Americans, Japanese, and South Koreans - but there’s little sense in it. This is similar to Montenegro at the beginning of the 20th century, which declared war on Japan after the outbreak of the Russo-Japanese war.
    4. cyberspace
      cyberspace 27 November 2015 12: 39 New
      +1
      So now, if a vigorous loaf flourishes over Ankara, it’s not us, but greetings from Kim Jong-un?
  5. Decathlon
    Decathlon 27 November 2015 08: 28 New
    0
    "... the Russian side now has every right to 'land' Turkish aircraft ..."
    Jurist guys! hi Ah, we can officially do this officially ?! Or after the first starts all paragraphs of international law will fall in the ass ?!
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 27 November 2015 08: 43 New
      15
      Quote: Decathlon
      Or after the first starts all paragraphs of international law will fall in the ass ?!


      but after all after Yugoslavia they were already pulled out of there?
      1. Decathlon
        Decathlon 27 November 2015 08: 46 New
        +2
        I think yes! They washed, disinfected and again obliged the whole world to use them ...
      2. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 27 November 2015 09: 26 New
        +1
        San, the sequel was in Libya, and in the same Syria it seems like they put paragraphs on the enti ... what exactly I will not write, they will again send to the "bathhouse", but I really want to write .... good
    2. ssergn
      ssergn 27 November 2015 08: 46 New
      +6
      For us:

      1. Treaty with Syria.
      2. Request for protection from Syria.
      3. Article 51 of the UN Charter.
      1. Decathlon
        Decathlon 27 November 2015 08: 49 New
        +1
        hi This is understandable, but what can be against it ?! The opinion of the "democratic" world is not to offer! Dry language of legal documents, if possible ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 27 November 2015 09: 08 New
          +5
          Quote: Decathlon
          Dry language of legal documents, if possible ...


          Syria is a sovereign state, and Assad is the rightful president. He signed an agreement with us for help. Conclusions: only our and Syrian aircraft can fly into Syrian airspace. This is DE JURO.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 08: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: ssergn
        1. Treaty with Syria.
        2. Request for protection from Syria.
        3. Article 51 of the UN Charter.

        Against us.
        1. Frozen dreaming of reviving the Ottoman Empire and who does not give a damn about all 3 points.
        2. See point one.
        1. ssergn
          ssergn 27 November 2015 09: 44 New
          0
          Alexander, this is just understandable. But from the point of view of law, a scumbag will be guilty, in this case NATO will not get into the war. And the UN (although it’s not good enough) should also take our side.
  6. luxprofi
    luxprofi 27 November 2015 08: 29 New
    -15
    Calm down with Turkey at last! Tired of it. From empty to empty. Not a single review on the site regarding the opening of the Yeltsin Center. Not a single comment! And for Russia this will have much more serious consequences in the future than a downed attack aircraft.
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    2. Svyatogor
      Svyatogor 27 November 2015 08: 40 New
      10
      "Not a single review on the site regarding the opening of the Yeltsin Center. Not a single comment!" ..... I understand your indignation, but this site of the Military Review and the Yeltsin Center does not fit here somehow.
      1. luxprofi
        luxprofi 27 November 2015 08: 49 New
        -4
        Svyatogor. The site has a pronounced patriotic orientation. Therefore, articles on political figures regularly appear on it, analysis and evaluation of their lives, activities, etc. are carried out. For example, articles on Stalin, Beria, etc. And it is right. In this case, complete silence. The most important event has happened! One gets the impression that the site received an unspoken order in every way to keep silent about this topic. Hence my negative.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 08: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: luxprofi
          The most important event has happened!

          Well, go celebrate, tell the address.
        2. gg.na
          gg.na 27 November 2015 09: 56 New
          -1
          luxprofi Yes you are my friend tantrums simply! Also, tell the creators of the site what to write and what not to write on your site! lol Off topic You started this conversation here! No. !!! Sorry but minus you!
        3. Banshee
          Banshee 27 November 2015 10: 10 New
          +3
          There will be no material. Voennoye Obozreniye is a truly patriotic site. And all the authors are patriots.

          There were no volunteers to cover this event.
          1. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 28 November 2015 03: 38 New
            0
            Quote: Banshee
            There were no volunteers to cover this event.
    3. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 27 November 2015 08: 41 New
      10
      Not a single review on the site regarding the opening of the Yeltsin Center. Not a single comment!
      Enjoy:
      On Wednesday, November 25, the Boris Yeltsin Presidential Center was inaugurated in Yekaterinburg. Liberals are very effective at using the state's desire for self-respect. That is, it does not matter what kind of president we had, the main thing is that it was a president and we respect him. This is a very cheap wiring, it is strange that our state fell for it. The fact that our country now has a "Yeltsin Center" but no "Stalin Center" is an insult to our entire history and to practically all citizens of Russia, including those who believe that Stalin was a bloody dictator and nothing else.
      http://delyagin.ru
      1. Stinger
        Stinger 27 November 2015 09: 04 New
        +7
        Really. Two favorites in the picture. There is something to remember. One saxophonist was sucked right in the Oval Office, the other was a jovial fighter and a privilege fighter. And both are democrats.
        1. Tra-ta-ta
          Tra-ta-ta 27 November 2015 09: 21 New
          +4
          One saxophonist was sucked off right in the Oval Office, the other was a jovial fighter and a privilege fighter.
          They also forgot how an innocent wife in the cabinet of the Minister of Defense lit up on the table ...
      2. anip
        anip 27 November 2015 09: 14 New
        +3
        Quote: Tra-ta-ta
        The fact that our country now has a "Yeltsin Center" but no "Stalin Center" is an insult to our entire history.

        What did you want? Who pulled Putin?
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 09: 15 New
          -1
          Quote: anip

          What did you want? Who pulled Putin?

          And Stalin’s Lenin, then what?
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 08: 49 New
      +2
      Quote: luxprofi
      Tired of it. From empty to empty. Not a single review on the site regarding the opening of the Yeltsin Center. Not a single comment!

      Dear, let the Yeltsin center and everyone who wants to read it roll down the forest.
      Quote: luxprofi
      And for Russia this will have much more serious consequences in the future than a downed attack aircraft.

      Indeed, ours died for that matter, but the cent of EBN is more important, a provocateur?
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 27 November 2015 09: 01 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        - a provocateur?

        maybe nadezhdin? what
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 09: 08 New
          0
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          maybe nadezhdin?

          No, rather it’s Gozman. For him, this is indeed a really important event.
          1. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 27 November 2015 09: 41 New
            +1
            ooooh harya! and would give in the face!
          2. ssergn
            ssergn 27 November 2015 09: 47 New
            0
            Well, why is this nasty face in the morning then?
          3. gg.na
            gg.na 27 November 2015 10: 00 New
            0
            maybe even a gozman that damn provocateur! negative
          4. Andrey Yuryevich
            Andrey Yuryevich 27 November 2015 10: 29 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            No, rather it's Gosma

            shit ... i need a drink ... belay
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 10: 36 New
              +2
              Quote: Andrey Yurievich
              ..I need a drink ..

              Take your 400 drops
        2. gg.na
          gg.na 27 November 2015 09: 58 New
          0
          Very similar to Nadezhda BB
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 27 November 2015 09: 10 New
        -1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        let the Yeltsin center center roll, and all who wish to read it.

        I imagine GDP and DAMA curled up like a hedgehog and rolling towards the forest ... laughing
      3. anip
        anip 27 November 2015 09: 20 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Indeed, ours died for that matter, but the cent of EBN is more important, a provocateur?

        And do not distort.
        Quote: luxprofi
        Calm down with Turkey at last! Tired of it. From empty to empty. Not a single review on the site regarding the opening of the Yeltsin Center. Not a single comment! And for Russia this will have much more serious consequences in the future than a downed attack aircraft.

        What is he wrong with? especially if you read what Putin said there.
        “Boris Nikolayevich wanted our country to become strong, prosperous, happy,” Putin said. “He had a strong-willed, direct, courageous character, the ability to show utmost decisiveness. And largely thanks to its qualities, our country has not turned off the chosen democratic path of development. ” The head of state thanked the creators of the center, and also expressed hope that the Yeltsin Center would become an important educational platform.

        Yes, in principle, that is me. Hurray-Utriotam all is well, that would not have done and said their idol. And do not care that the same hoo-Utriot will mess with Yeltsin and immediately extol his protégé, the same as the EBN himself.
      4. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 27 November 2015 09: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        let the Yeltsin center and everyone who wishes to read it roll down the forest.

        Sanya, how is it? Well, I don’t know this expression, enlighten me. You can in PM, what would the forum rules not to violate! request
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 27 November 2015 09: 35 New
          0
          Quote: Viktor Demchenko

          Sanya, how is it? Well, I do not know this expression

          Fixed repeat
    5. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 27 November 2015 09: 09 New
      +9
      Quote: luxprofi
      regarding the opening of the Yeltsin Center.

      Dima bilan (a well-known pid ... (excuse me, why a word doesn’t print the word) and the addict) plays a major role. Why am I ?! We are beginning to rewrite history long ago. Pedi ... sorry bilans are played by white officers who are supposedly decent and they beat us into the subcortex that this is normal. Only a good person can play a good hero, therefore it is becoming the norm in society at this level.
      Now about Admiral Kolchak, played by Khabensky. The film, of course, was shot well, but Kolchak, bastard ... was an embezzler, wasted the state. grandmother's mistress, and not sour. And we were shown as a patriot.
      Now the question is why this is and what is the relation to the opening of the Yeltsin center. And here and there there were thieves and traitors to the Motherland, and now, washing and showing these periods to a beautiful light, they wash themselves and their actions, and their "overwhelming" work stolen, sorry, earned money. That's all. By definition, Yeltsin cannot be a traitor and a bastard if there is a cent with his name, respectively, Chubais and Gaidars, who worked with him pink and fluffy.
      Here's a quick comment.
      1. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 27 November 2015 09: 44 New
        0
        Quote: Oleg147741
        if there is cent with his name

        here you are my brother is right at all 1000%. exactly cent! good
    6. ksan
      ksan 27 November 2015 14: 21 New
      +1
      Calm down with Turkey at last! Tired of it. From empty to empty. Not a single review on the site regarding the opening of the Yeltsin Center. Not a single comment! And for Russia this will have much more serious consequences in the future than a downed attack aircraft.
      What consequences? Thieves used the stolen money to open a museum of THEIR GOLDEN PORA, so what? Will THEY stop being thieves or THEY make YOU consider it a TEMPLE ?? Arrange an "Art action" or "flash mob" now it's fashionable to go THERE and piss on portraits of Yeltsin, icons are being cut in the Tretyakov Gallery, and then some sort of Yeltsin. fellow Or you can just jump with some moronic slogan; "He who does not jump is Eltsenoid". And the fact that this Center is so huge, so they stole a bunch, so the monument corresponds to the size of the robbery of their country. hi
  7. Name
    Name 27 November 2015 08: 31 New
    +2
    With the cruiser "Moskva" and the arrived S-400 “Land” Turkish planes (and all the Black Sea Fleet in NATO!) Over Syrian territory IMHO will become a concrete reality and horror for mattresses, because they really wanted a no-fly zone - get it; sign after.
    1. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 27 November 2015 09: 00 New
      +2
      Something tells me that to "land" targets flying at low altitude in "radar shadows" of mountainous terrain from a distance of 150-250 km using C-400 is a bad idea ...
      And we substitute the cruiser in vain .. There are enough provocateurs under water ..
      The cruiser has its own tasks at sea.
      I am for helping Syria! But there are not enough positive emotions from "our competent actions with a look around."
  8. Same lech
    Same lech 27 November 2015 08: 31 New
    +5
    Not a single review on the site regarding the opening of the Yeltsin Center.


    Yeltsin is not worthy of any award ... broke firewood above the roof ...
    but again, our leaders distinguished themselves ... why he tied them so I do not understand.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 27 November 2015 08: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      again, our leaders excelled ... how he tied them so I do not understand.

      gave the throne to GDP ...
      1. anip
        anip 27 November 2015 09: 21 New
        -1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        gave the throne to GDP ...

        The same as himself ..
      2. Black Colonel
        Black Colonel 27 November 2015 09: 26 New
        +2
        gave the throne to GDP ...
        Rather, left at the convincing request.
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 27 November 2015 09: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      but again, our leaders distinguished themselves ... why he tied them so I do not understand.

      Well, at least like this: stepped aside, freeing up space.
    3. luxprofi
      luxprofi 27 November 2015 09: 20 New
      -2
      The same LEKH People, well, what are you all dark! After all, I wrote it in Russian! The most important event, in the sense of a negative effect !!! Not only did you mess up the money immeasurably, in addition, they heroized the criminal in essence, because schoolchildren are also going to massively bring and teach false stories! Damn the yard dog somewhere, the car will knock, howling on the whole Internet! And here, the center was dedicated to a freak of freaks, the freak was called the beacon of democracy, all liberal rot came together, and the president sanctified the whole thing with his presence and pushed the speech! Why did he do this? Does he mean from their team? Whose bear is clear. And the Supreme Commander? How to understand all this?
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 27 November 2015 09: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: luxprofi
        And here, the center was dedicated to a freak of freaks, a freak was called a beacon of democracy, the whole gathered

        And it’s weak to get an article for Yeltsin, and to discuss on the topic? Yeltsin separately, and Erdogan - separately?))
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 27 November 2015 10: 43 New
        0
        Quote: luxprofi
        Why did he do this? Does he mean from their team?
        Cool, it only means that
        1) the president is not going to support the meanest tradition that has emerged from the time of Khrushchev - to pour slops on his predecessors, ascribing to himself their merits;
        2) Yeltsin chose a successor who stopped the disintegration of Russia and took up the restoration of its state sovereignty and the status of a great power ("their team" never dreamed of such a thing in a nightmare, and all the pathos of their "blessed memory" boils down to supporting the anti-popular course that "their team "spent during the years of Yeltsin's rule);
        3) Putin's public appearance against such a "disadvantageous", from the point of view of PR, background confirms his readiness to act in accordance with the principles, and not to be led by public opinion.
  9. Trailer
    Trailer 27 November 2015 08: 33 New
    +7
    And what is the meaning of this note besides stating the obvious. The Turks tensed, ours will land any flying something from Turkey. The expansion of the conflict between the armies, it seems to me, will not be allowed above. You just have to really look at things - yes, we and the Turks have strong armies. Yes, both of them are highly motivated. BUT! Both sides are poisoned by the Turkish authorities. That's where, in theory, and you have to dig. Since the deterioration of the Turkish economy and aid to the fraternal Kurdish people.
  10. twincam
    twincam 27 November 2015 08: 33 New
    +2
    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan in an interview with CNN said that Ankara will regard aggression as a situation when its combat aircraft violates Syrian airspace and is shot down with the help of a Russian anti-aircraft missile system.


    Well, let them play with matches.
    But how will Syria assess if a Turkish combat aircraft invades Syrian airspace ????
  11. MT266
    MT266 27 November 2015 08: 35 New
    +7
    All marines with a professional holiday !!! Good luck, accuracy and God bless you
  12. alex-cn
    alex-cn 27 November 2015 08: 37 New
    +4
    Any armored vehicles not belonging to the SAA in Syria should be considered as belonging to the militants, with all its consequences. Planes (except for the aerospace forces and CAA) over Syrian territory to intercept and force to land in Syria. In the event of an air battle over Syrian territory, shoot down. But S-300-400, will probably have to be used only in case of an attack on Khmeimim. and say it tough enough! It is VERY important that all the downfall falls on Syrian territory.
    Erdogan has already howled that their use will be seen as aggression against Turkey. In this case, NATO will most likely remain silent, but positively towards the Turks. And the Syrians now can’t stand the Turkish strike, even with our help.
    In any case, it is necessary that the Turks openly start first and achieve recognition as their aggressors. In no case can not give the slightest reason for the accusations of Syria or Russia.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 27 November 2015 08: 55 New
      +4
      Quote: alex-cn
      But S-300-400 will probably have to be used only in case of an attack on Khmeimim

      On the contrary. For the Turks, the sky of Syria will be closed.
      Quote: alex-cn
      the Syrians now can’t stand the Turkish strike, even with our help.

      The Turks have no chance.
      Quote: alex-cn
      In any case, it is necessary that the Turks openly start first and achieve recognition as their aggressors.

      But this is yes)).
    2. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 27 November 2015 09: 37 New
      +1
      In no case can not give the slightest reason for the accusations of Syria or Russia.
      For some reason, I remembered the prewar months of 41 .. Everyone was also afraid to give the slightest excuse ...
      1. alex-cn
        alex-cn 27 November 2015 09: 40 New
        +2
        And now the situation is a little better.
        the west is sleeping and seeing in order to draw us into a long war.
        In Afghanistan, this has passed and they are driving along the beaten track. They will sacrifice the Turks, most likely, but what will it cost us ...
  13. Neophyte
    Neophyte 27 November 2015 08: 37 New
    +6
    Right now, it is necessary to establish contacts with the Kurds, the headache of the Ottomans!
    Assad is extremely important to remind the Kurds of the promised autonomy, and the leadership of the future Kurdistan should have the protection of the Russian Aerospace Forces against aggression by the Ottomans. Most likely, this will aggravate the conflict, but the process is inevitable, judging by the statements of the neo-Ottoman Port.
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 27 November 2015 09: 31 New
      +2
      remind Kurds of promised autonomy
      At this stage, as part of Syria, as otherwise, the Kurds will be regarded as separatists in relation to Syria.
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  15. wild
    wild 27 November 2015 08: 45 New
    -11
    Ours will not land anything, the Turks will bomb the Kurds as much as they like and fly into Syria. Putin will not fight with Turkey, in this sense, Erdogan landed Putin. I think Putin will rub off again. Ukraine as a vivid example. He did not even mention that after that he intended to help the Kurds. Maybe he has a plan but he looks very confused. Obama is crushing Putin like a boa constrictor all over the world. Sport, finance, technology, etc. We look at the development of the situation.
    1. Tatarus
      Tatarus 27 November 2015 08: 52 New
      +3
      In HoXostane, civil war. In Syria, foreign intervention. The difference is huge. So that
      Quote: wild
      Ukraine as a vivid example
      definitely not rolling.
    2. Decathlon
      Decathlon 27 November 2015 09: 01 New
      12
      "... He did not even mention that after that he intends to help the Kurds ..."
      If I want to burn a sauna of a neighbor’s neighbor’s room on the right, with the hands of a neighbor’s left side, do I have to yell all over the street that I ran to buy kerosene ?! wink
      1. Minstrel
        Minstrel 27 November 2015 09: 34 New
        +3
        Quote: Decathlon
        If I want to burn a sauna of a neighbor’s neighbor’s room on the right, with the hands of a neighbor’s left side, do I have to yell all over the street that I ran to buy kerosene ?!

        Nah! It is necessary to shoot the arson process on the camera, and put the video on the Internet, in order to gain likes. laughing
    3. murking
      murking 27 November 2015 09: 28 New
      +6
      Often, comrades wipe themselves out in real life when they meet a drunken gop company on the street, and then write on the Internet about nuclear bombs and other nonsense, I did not see how Putin wiped himself off in Ukraine, given that he had squeezed territories and kept relations with Europeans. And a vivid example is that you relax your cerebellum, posting all kinds of nonsense, creating tension, and then relaxing, splashing aggression into the Internet, a typical psychoananism established long ago by Freud, replacing concepts and introducing Putin to aggravate the situation and the first to beat, when the Turks attack the Kurds, the Kurds will not interest us at all. Turkey will be beaten if it tries to damage us, but we will not attack first, this is just a move leading to the unknown and difficult to calculate because Turkey has the largest atomic base NATO’s weapons, and with their dangerous maneuver, we’ll just smash them in Syria, and their written power from the wiki, like a paper airplane flying over a big fire, a large a fly that attracts with light, but burns with flame. (In general, only on paper is their army good and will be defeated by Russia very easily from far away, Russia which many greatly underestimate after the collapse of the USSR, but in vain).
    4. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 27 November 2015 09: 52 New
      +1
      Ours will not land anything, the Turks will bomb the Kurds as much as they like and fly into Syria. Putin will not fight with Turkey, in this sense, Erdogan landed Putin.
      As they say svidomye "Don't tell the hop until you jump over"
    5. gg.na
      gg.na 27 November 2015 10: 06 New
      0
      Obama crushes Putin like a boa constrictor
      This we will see wassat who presses whom and how the whole thing will end laughing !!! wink !!! Our president is suspicious bully not verbose! Not?! What does not it remind ?! well then laughing wait, sir !!!
  16. A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 27 November 2015 08: 46 New
    +3
    Quote: The same LYOKHA
    Yeltsin is not worthy of any award ... broke firewood above the roof ...
    but again, our leaders distinguished themselves ... why he tied them so I do not understand.


    And what is not clear here, Family! As the late drunk said, I don’t take anything for myself, everything in the family, but thanks.
  17. Combitor
    Combitor 27 November 2015 08: 47 New
    +2
    And why, strictly speaking, should there be a "buffer zone" on the territory of Syria? Perhaps, having cleared Syria of terrorists, we will create this very "zone" on the territory of Turkey with all the ensuing consequences?
    1. kartalovkolya
      kartalovkolya 27 November 2015 10: 08 New
      +2
      I agree with you, but considering all the events that took place after the dastardly murder of our soldiers, the territory of this so-called "buffer zone" was "ground down" and occupied by the Syrian troops, and you are right when you say that it is time to create a "buffer zone" in the Turkish territory. As they say, what you asked for is what you get and do not forget to sign and pay! And one more little, free advice to "morons" from Ankara: the RF mail order works like clockwork and do not risk ordering the "landing of Poplar Alleys" - the order will be fulfilled exactly and on time! Turks they are Turks!
  18. Evgen_Vasilich
    Evgen_Vasilich 27 November 2015 08: 47 New
    +6
    Quote: jarome
    ultra-democratic scrapped

    how splendidly you comrade made a small shot, plus!
  19. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 27 November 2015 08: 48 New
    +3
    I think certain services have already made contact with the Kurds.
    From now on, the integrity of the Ports is not in Russia's interests.
  20. Tatarus
    Tatarus 27 November 2015 08: 49 New
    +7
    The last few days have shown how quickly humanity can plunge into world carnage. Quickly and somehow "indifferent" or something. The ruminant herd is ready to watch the war on TV and on the NET. But is it ready for direct participation? When the weight around is in the blood and the blood is partly your own? The movie will end, and the WAR ...
  21. solovey
    solovey 27 November 2015 08: 50 New
    +5
    Now the S-400 and the cruiser Moscow are waiting for Erdogan's promise to continue to shoot down Russian aircraft wink
    Lavrov December 1-2 will be in Cyprus to resolve issues !!!! And when will Lavrov decide with Kurdistan issues?
  22. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 27 November 2015 08: 52 New
    0
    "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"? A highly controversial statement. The site often sounds that you need to help the Kurds with weapons and even anti-aircraft weapons. Who can say with confidence that the Kurds will not save a couple of MANPADS against our aircraft? Moreover, Kurds are not a homogeneous mass as some represent. They are united by only one thing - hatred of the Turks, as well as of the Arabs. This is a large disconnected people who are fighting with the Turks, and with the Iraqis, and with the Syrians. There is one more consideration. “Where is the money, Zin ...?” Where the "moderate" fight, it is already clear with the "black" oil. And where are the Kurds? Where and to whom? Also to Turkey?
    1. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 28 November 2015 08: 59 New
      0
      Quote: There was a mammoth
      Where the "moderate" fight, it is already clear with the "black" oil. And where are the Kurds? Where and to whom? Also to Turkey?

      Reflection on yesterday's comment:
      "Iraqi Kurdistan is going to supply blue fuel throughout the Middle East. One of its main partners Kurds see Turkey, which we are ready to provide gas supplies over the next 50 years. "
      http://news.rambler.ru/business/32063831/
      So, who knows to whom and the Kurds supply oil?
  23. Taygerus
    Taygerus 27 November 2015 08: 52 New
    +1
    [quote = wild] Ours will not land anything, the Turks will bomb the Kurds as much as they like and fly into Syria. Putin will not fight with Turkey, in this sense, Erdogan landed Putin. I think Putin will rub off again. Ukraine as a vivid example. He did not even mention that after that he intended to help the Kurds. Maybe he has a plan but he looks very confused. Obama crushes Putin like a boa constrictor all over the world. Sport, finance, technology, etc. We look at the development of the situation. [/ Q

    in vain do you think so, will be, even as they will be, and no one has not worn himself, including in connection with the outskirts
  24. biznaw
    biznaw 27 November 2015 08: 58 New
    +5
    until our air defense is suppressed, NATO will not go into Syria. Wransuz can turn out to be a trojan horse of NATO ...
  25. Name
    Name 27 November 2015 09: 04 New
    +3
    How do you comrades FORUM relate to the following:
    On Tuesday, Kadyrov, commenting on the statement of President Vladimir Putin about the downed Su-24, expressed confidence that Turkey would "long regret the deed."- here it seems to be against the background of statements from the GDP, no less significant. And it can very loudly suppress Erdrgan, and only after the GDP essentially declared an ultimatum to Turkey recourse The Turkish (so far) "sultan" has a very interesting "polpzhenie" ...
  26. mamont5
    mamont5 27 November 2015 09: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: jarome
    But with the range of missiles C-300 and C-400 to Khmeimim? ...
    The circle may turn out to be much smaller in reality, without taking into account other airy nuances.

    I think that the complex will be provided with the necessary missiles. Landing the Turks is now a matter of honor. To the bastards who can beat only stealthily or a weaker opponent, their place must be shown.
  27. dojjdik
    dojjdik 27 November 2015 09: 10 New
    +1
    the plan of the Jews to use the Turks and the Six of Erdogan as a big baton is not bad but a failure, they failed to get to the Caspian Sea through Azerbaijan; I hope Ilham remembers the words of his father Heydar Aliyev to be always and in everything with Russia
  28. mamont5
    mamont5 27 November 2015 09: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: wild
    I think Putin will rub off again.

    Another "putinslik", hiding behind the Russian flag. It's better to hang a white flag, it will be more accurate.
  29. Mr. Fun
    Mr. Fun 27 November 2015 09: 22 New
    0
    Due to the complication of the situation in the region, the Turkish armed forces are pulling forward units to the border with Syria. It is noted that the main battle tanks and army air defense systems of Turkey are being transferred to the border with Syria.

    And they will still declare that they do not support terrorists. Erdoganische is now grabbing at the last straw so as not to lose all his "dirty business". And for sure now the wind is blowing in his head, because God forbid, now something will happen there, and he is going to this. Moreover, fearlessly, but frankly naive and not thoughtful. The cuckoo can go ...

    And the Russian side now has the full right to “land” Turkish aircraft over Syrian territory, including over the territory controlled by Syrian Kurds.

    Our side has every right to do so, since November 24. Shoot down everything that flies, and if something doesn't fly, lift it into the air and again shoot it down ... Erdogan probably thinks that if he wants to stand out again, we won't do anything for him. I would like to think that Vladimir Vladimirovich will let him know that he is “wrong,” to put it mildly, clearly and concisely. Boom! Bam! And everything is clear ...

    Quote: MT266
    North Korea officially announced that it would destroy Turkey if it decided to bomb Syria again. International analysts are concerned that Russia, conducting a military operation in Syria, has such allies as China and Iran. Now North Korea has announced its accession to Russia, China, Iran for assistance in Syria. Kim Jong-un warned that he would use atomic weapons. (and he doesn’t let words into the wind) ..

    You can end on the first sentence. Briefly, succinctly and clearly. Well, atomic weapons will of course be "borscht", but if everything goes very far and not for the better, then it's nice that Kim Jong-un joined us. May freshen up in the heads of the Turkish government.
  30. sanya0974
    sanya0974 27 November 2015 09: 24 New
    +1
    All missiles, yes s-300, but pay attention to the fact that Erdogan jumped after a proposal to meet with the GDP. And they simply ignored him, like you don’t, at that time you lowered your tie bear, you’re not the president, it's not about than.
  31. Almatinets
    Almatinets 27 November 2015 09: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: vorobey
    we’ll also land tanks .... at what height they fly
    - "We calmly burn tanks" (film "28 Panfilov's men")
  32. sergej30003
    sergej30003 27 November 2015 09: 27 New
    0
    while everything is going according to the plan of the United States, they tried to pull the Turks into a war with Syria, to force them to impose sanctions against Russia, but as practice shows, they won’t be able to sit on two chairs, they deliberately stained with stolen oil and connections with Isil Erdogan, now he has no way out, he will do and does what Uncle Sam says, that is, through conflict, the two powers will weaken each other, and the profits, as you know, will be counted across the ocean.
  33. BOB044
    BOB044 27 November 2015 09: 34 New
    0
    With the production of S-400 in Syria, the hunt for Erdoganov pilots will lose the desire to host in Syria. But Erdogan needs to give a handkerchief to wipe his drool and stock up on diapers. Soon needed.
  34. kartalovkolya
    kartalovkolya 27 November 2015 09: 35 New
    0
    There is a lot of chatter, it's easier to say that now Perdogan's aviation will fly (fly up) near its airfields and no closer than 40 kilometers from the Syrian border, and everyone who dares to cross the border will have a "warm" meeting with the S-300 and S-400. And let at least all of Perdogashka go to "green shit"; how many of their planes invade the Syrian side, so many will remain there, and we have learned to beat the Turks since the time of A.V. Suvorov! They asked for "ALAVERDS", you will receive it jackals!
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  36. nik1321
    nik1321 27 November 2015 09: 39 New
    +1
    "Ankara will regard the situation as aggression when its combat aircraft violates Syrian airspace and is shot down."
    A shot down plane of the Russian Federation should be regarded as an act of goodwill on the part of Turkey? The Erzogan’s (NATO )’s barzometer is clearly off the charts ... This is a category of people (if you can call them that) who don’t have a broken face ... they can’t behave rationally ... They need to urgently take tourists out of Turkey ... That's all Erdogan’s impudence also begins to take shape. And it seems that NATO with amers aside from Turkey, but Crimea coincided, it’s de-energized .. A downed plane on the Sinai as a seed of events to make people angry ... Turks deploying forces to the border with Syria ... . Syria, Ukraine, Turkey - it seems that all these are links of the same plan ..
    1. True
      True 27 November 2015 09: 47 New
      +1
      If Putin is scared, an international tribunal awaits him, and we are all 100 years of abundance and universal jubilation. And while he looks sorry.
      1. Banshee
        Banshee 27 November 2015 10: 15 New
        +2
        Another red one. In the run something, as the censor was closed.
  37. Homos
    Homos 27 November 2015 09: 40 New
    +1
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Only after his announcement, much of the world considers him a scumbag.

    Well, the world and Hitler considered not sane, and some even fought a little with him. But Ford factories supplied Nazi Germany with engines, Standard Oil of New Jersey transported oil, and also supplied steel and metal blanks. Such a trick can be done again at a time, perhaps on a smaller scale, or maybe fight with Russia in earnest, like 100 years ago
    1. amba balamut 77
      amba balamut 77 27 November 2015 09: 50 New
      +2
      Remind the Turks how Adik ended.
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  38. AlexSK
    AlexSK 27 November 2015 09: 40 New
    +3
    "There is no revenge in politics, but there are consequences." (P.A.Stolypin's speech to the Polish deputies who visited him before the dissolution of the second Duma)
  39. Pamir48
    Pamir48 27 November 2015 09: 43 New
    +1
    "And the Russian side now has every right to land Turkish planes over Syrian territory."
    I LIKE drinks
  40. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 27 November 2015 09: 44 New
    +1
    Erdogan continues to drive the blizzard on the military response to a possible downed Turkish plane! This crazy man leads his people into the abyss with him!
  41. Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 27 November 2015 09: 45 New
    +1
    http://www.liveinternet.ru/click;mmet/topwar_ru?http://www.mediametrics.ru/ratin
    g / ru / online.html? article = 172992754
    "Erdogan demanded an apology from Russia for the incident with the Su-24" - he has one supplier ("drug dealer") with Yatsenyuk and Poroshenko, or what?
  42. ARES623
    ARES623 27 November 2015 09: 45 New
    +1
    All of our leaders have already recognized that Turkey has given rise to the war. In this case, I think, it is possible that the Blue Stream may stop working due to force majeure. This is spelled out in any contract. The restoration of work should be conditioned by an official apology and repayment of all material costs of Russia. Yes, with a transfer to an advance payment, as if they lost confidence. In connection with this, it is not clear that Tkachev's speech that they found something harmful in products and goods from Turkey. This is what happens, the enemy - Turkey did not bite our doorstep, it is possible to poison the population with their product, but how something, then at once - everything became harmful? Why play around and look for flies in sour cream? This behavior is not serious if you are not Honduras. We must promise a similar response to Turkey’s violation of the borders in Syria and Armenia. The Greeks are already conducting air battles with the Turks (this is inside the NATO bloc !!!). And what kind of trembling knees do we have?
    1. amba balamut 77
      amba balamut 77 27 November 2015 09: 58 New
      +1
      The brains of our analysts, those that plow with GDP, can work. We can only wait what kind of pig they put to the Mamelukes. I hope that this will be a very big deal, otherwise I didn’t get the Ottomans at the snout from World War I, cranks relaxed (with the letter M).
    2. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 27 November 2015 11: 03 New
      +2
      Quote: ARES623
      The Greeks are already conducting air battles with the Turks (this is inside the NATO bloc !!!). And what kind of trembling do we have?

      So the Greeks in Athens held an action yesterday with the burning of the mattress and Turkish flags
      1. ARES623
        ARES623 27 November 2015 13: 13 New
        0
        Quote: Paranoid50
        So the Greeks in Athens held an action yesterday with the burning of the mattress and Turkish flags

        Respect to the Greeks! An opinion appeared in Germany to withdraw Turkey from NATO, because there are more problems from it than help. Therefore, the more places where the Turks managed, the better we are.
  43. atamankko
    atamankko 27 November 2015 09: 52 New
    +1
    Despite the aplomb, the Turks begin to think.
  44. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 27 November 2015 09: 54 New
    +1
    We will help the Kurds even so that the Turks will stop flying across the border. Ground invasion of tanks without air support is also now impossible. After a no-fly zone and a break in oil supplies, the move is now for the Turks. Although we have every right to bring down their plane in their territory.
  45. gg.na
    gg.na 27 November 2015 10: 17 New
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    The Turks have acted very meanly, it’s in their blood that meanness and deceit! Supplies of weapons to ISIS !!! Financing subversive activities in our Crimea !!! And now they got a stab in the back from where they didn’t wait! am Believe vile Turks ??! Such faith can be very expensive for RUSSIA !! And all these things are being conducted by our sworn "friends" from behind a puddle! angry So the equation with the Yuoluston volcano just needs to be solved! Let there be a strait named after I.V. Stalin repeat !
  46. Belousov
    Belousov 27 November 2015 10: 24 New
    +1
    Erdogan has already backed down. The vaunted NATO shoved the advertised 5th article into one dark deep place, thereby showing that they are not eager to arrange a real batch with an angry Russia, especially if the reason for the batch is only the Turks. This, by the way, should be taken into account by other especially noisy countries, which are all repeating "NATO will come, we will be protected." As it turned out, NATO comes only when it is profitable for him and there is no danger of snatching the lula and spoiling his own beautiful glamorous face.
    The Kurds must be unequivocally armed. Yes, we control the territory of Syria, however, the Kurds will be able to provide Erdogan with a sweet life on the territory of Turkey itself. Erdogan wanted to build a buffer zone in northern Syria supposedly to help refugees? Well, let's bring this good purpose to life. That's just the buffer it will be for the PKK. First, clean everything there, we are from the air, on the ground, the Kurds themselves, clean. Then block the border (which means depriving ISIS of money, ammunition, medicine and other pleasures of life) and launch the Kurds there for the settlement. The Turks, of course, will be indignant, but they will not be able to fly anyway, because the slightest flight beyond the territory will be severely suppressed.
    The bottom line:
    1) Isil will remain with a pretty battered wallet, without regular replenishment of weapons and militants,
    2) Erdogan will simply be left without money, but it will gain even greater problems with the Kurds than now,
    3) the Kurds keep the northern regions of Syria "clean", which will allow them to concentrate strikes in other directions,
    4) we will take revenge as a whole and show that you can’t get in touch with Russia, the answer will be extremely unpleasant.
  47. Lelek
    Lelek 27 November 2015 10: 55 New
    +4
    “First, politicians and our military should sit down and discuss where and what mistakes were made, and then focus on overcoming these mistakes on both sides. But if we instead make emotional statements like this, then this is wrong, ”Erdogan said.

    And he immediately signed a statement that in the event of "shooting down" Turkish planes over the territory of Syria, Turkey will consider it a declaration of war on it (Who does not see NATO's long nose and goatee here?).
    Lied, the Sultan Erdogan got loose. And we need to declare the Syrian sky a no-fly zone for Turkish aviation, however, like the Syrian territory, a no-go zone for Turkish ground equipment. negative
  48. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 27 November 2015 11: 40 New
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    Erdogan, prepare the perdogan.

    And according to the law of the genre, it must first quack in Ukraine. We must do something meanest to us. We will fight.
  49. lopvlad
    lopvlad 27 November 2015 12: 11 New
    +3
    The USA decided to try Russia "weakly". Trying with your own hands means starting a nuclear war, but with the Turks' hands, it's easy. If it doesn't work out and Russia will answer toughly, you can always distance yourself and explain to other NATO countries that "if you attack any country yourself, you will solve all the problems yourself." and in the charter of the alliance, other members of the alliance are obliged to collectively harness for the country of the alliance only if its territory was attacked.
    The territory of Syria is by no means the territory of Turkey (whatever Erdogan would imagine).

    Why did the Americans make the Turks do this?

    The United States decided to kill two birds with one stone (get rid of Erdogan in Turkish power and try to make Russia stuck in the region).
    Although the United States found the only idiot in the region who was ready to throw himself under the wheels of a Russian military machine, they only pushed him by promising protection. There were no more idiots in the region.
  50. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 27 November 2015 12: 43 New
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    Last year, enthusiastically planned how Putin will tear Poroshenko. Maps drew, how will we divide Ukraine, how did it end? A year has not passed, everyone forgot and enthusiastically plan how Putin will tear the endorgan. What will it end with?
    1. Matthew Johnson
      Matthew Johnson 28 November 2015 15: 24 New
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      It will be the same.