State Department: Syrian opposition could open fire on Russian pilots in self-defense

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The State Department does not exclude that Syrian Turkmen opened fire on the ejection Russian pilots in order to protect themselves, reports RIA News statement by the representative of the Office of Mark Toner.



To the question “how do you assess the actions of the Syrian Turkmen who fired at the ejected pilots of the Russian Su-24,” Toner replied:
"If the Turkmen forces were attacked by Russian air strikes, they could defend themselves."


To another journalist's question, “can one consider self-defense shooting at unarmed pilots who ejected with parachutes,” the State Department spokesman answered: "There is no clear understanding of what really happened there."

On Tuesday, the Russian Su-24 bomber was shot down over Syria by a missile from the Turkish F-16 and fell in 4-km from the border with Turkey.

According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, "the crew of the aircraft ejected, according to preliminary data, one pilot was killed in the air by fire from the ground."
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  1. +116
    25 November 2015 11: 02
    Orenets can be from the cynicism of the Americans !!! This is how much you need to be the last bastard and scum, arguing that the shooting of almost unarmed pilots in the air is self-defense ... !!! I would like to see their reaction, if their pilot were in such a situation. Dirty, mean little souls !!!
    1. KAV
      +25
      25 November 2015 11: 04
      Well, of course. There is no clear understanding of what happened, but something cannot be taken out of oneself without this ...
      Already got these brainless dolls ...
      1. +17
        25 November 2015 11: 05
        You would also say: "They shot themselves! You know that the Russians do not surrender!"

        U .... ki!
        1. +18
          25 November 2015 11: 07
          So there is already such a version!
          Here somewhere on the forum someone already wrote.
          I'll try to find now ...

          You just need to burn out the whole terrain there.
          Americans in their comments justify the actions of terrorists.
          Actually sided with the terrorists in this war.
          1. +10
            25 November 2015 11: 15
            Quote: Temples
            So there is already such a version!
            Here somewhere on the forum someone already wrote.

            He has everything hanging in his blood - shot in bursts?
            As soon as they find the second pilot - roll everyone into pebbles.
            1. +20
              25 November 2015 11: 26
              We found a second pilot, he is already at our air base, the Syrian special forces rescued him. Now it is possible, with a clear conscience, to destroy all the bearded who are in the area of ​​the plane crash site, especially those who, by their own inborn stupidity, managed to light up on frames with the killed Russian pilot. Their diagnosis is a suicide nerd.
              In vain the Turks did not answer properly. These are Asian people, hot-tempered and hot. Economic sanctions for them will turn into a slight startle. They have such a mentality, they must be really beaten and punished for misconduct, so that they begin to respect and fear. And these are not empty words. Asians recognize only power! By chatter and sanctions they cannot be appeased.
              1. +20
                25 November 2015 11: 34
                A.V. Suvorov beat the Turks perfectly!
                1. +4
                  25 November 2015 12: 02
                  And we also helped them in the Bosphorus, when England pressed them. We sent a fleet to help them.
                  Turks they are Turks.
                  They want to feel like lions in the region, only those who behave like a jackal will never become a lion.
                2. +4
                  25 November 2015 12: 55
                  Yesterday, November 24.11, was the birthday of A.V. Suvorov.
                  Turks, I wonder, do they remember that?
              2. +4
                25 November 2015 12: 06
                Quote: aktanir
                By chatter and sanctions they cannot be appeased.


                Truly so. IMHO, declare a section of the Syrian-Turkish border between the Syrian armed forces and Kurdish rebels as a no-fly zone and shoot down all planes not belonging to Syria and Russia there. Turn this section into the desert and close tightly (this is somewhere around 90 km of the border). Organize all possible assistance to the Kurdish formations. And most importantly, without regrets, destroy the oil caravans of the IG. Yes
              3. +1
                25 November 2015 12: 08
                these scum tortured our pilot along the way, that's what our ambassador in France brought
                One of those on board was wounded while descending with a parachute and killed wildly on earth by jihadists
              4. 0
                25 November 2015 18: 18
                Do not rush things, maybe some missile will go astray. You never know what, it will fall at the Turkish airbase. Well, it happens, excuse me, we will no longer and less too.
            2. +5
              25 November 2015 11: 26
              Quote: lelikas
              As soon as they find the second pilot - roll everyone into pebbles.

              They write on RBC that our ambassador in France (!) Confirmed the information about the rescue of the second pilot. True, and here the ambassador to France, I honestly can not understand.
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                1. 0
                  25 November 2015 11: 32
                  Far from aviation, who knows, flyers at bailout have no way to make a long jump? More and more chances in this situation ...
                  1. +2
                    25 November 2015 11: 55
                    Quote: severniy
                    Far from aviation, who knows, flyers at bailout have no way to make a long jump? More and more chances in this situation ...

                    And I'm far away, but something tells me that the parachute jumps out automatically, because the pilot may lose consciousness during the bailout.
                  2. +7
                    25 November 2015 12: 00
                    This possibility does not exist, because Bailouts can occur at extremely low altitudes and even from the ground. The pilot experiences tremendous overload when shooting a seat. The parachute opens automatically.
                  3. 0
                    25 November 2015 16: 22
                    The operation of the catapult is fully automated, regardless of who pulled the handle of the catapult, both pilots catapult (where the crew is 2 people of course). And fly out of the cockpit with the seat. Under the seat of the squib, which fires. The automatics work in such a way that even if the pilot did not lower the helmet glass before bailout, a small squib will fire on the helmet, which lowers the glass. The catapult throws the pilot 100 meters and the parachute opens automatically.
                    There was a case when the MiG 31 immediately after takeoff due to a pilot error began to fall. The height was 50 meters and the navigator pulled the catapult when the plane was upside down. Both pilots died with their heads stuck in the ground.
              2. 0
                25 November 2015 12: 10
                he means there was such information, he shared it, along with our opinion on this issue.
          2. +11
            25 November 2015 11: 16
            Quote: Temples
            You just need to burn out the whole terrain there.

            good Totally - all the villages and everything more or less valuable in the whole district, so that there would be a lesson to all as edification - blood for blood, they only understand this ..
            1. +27
              25 November 2015 11: 25
              E. Ya. Satanovsky yesterday proposed near the border to make a well-fried rosy cake with a crust, destroying any movement to / from the border. Spirits have the right to shoot pilots, we have the right to shoot spirits. Who shot from the village - get it and sign it.
              And a bonus - to help the Kurds in their "RIGHT TO SELF-DETERMINATION".
          3. +3
            25 November 2015 11: 29
            Quote: Temples
            So there is already such a version!
            Here somewhere on the forum someone already wrote.
            I'll try to find now ...

            You just need to burn out the whole terrain there.
            Americans in their comments justify the actions of terrorists.
            Actually sided with the terrorists in this war.

            With uv. hi
            Baluevsky said well: Military force had to be used specifically at the moment when the attack on the plane took place. Now, military force will need to be used based on the results of events. If they do not return this pilot, if they destroy him, then everything must be mixed. Then - the scorched earth tactics. No mercy!
            1. +2
              25 November 2015 11: 40
              Quote: severniy
              Baluevsky said well: Military force had to be used specifically at the moment when the attack on the plane took place.



              I said something like that yesterday. So everyone pounced on me that this should not be done in any case.
          4. +4
            25 November 2015 11: 29
            All this area had to be burned out last night, so that the glow could be seen in Ankara.
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        3. +12
          25 November 2015 11: 19
          You should not even be offended at the "Talking Heads" from the State Department, because it is stupid to take offense at an autoinformer (though broken).
          The question now is different, knowing the pernicious attraction (on the verge of pathology) of the Turkish Air Force to bomb the Kurds and simply "Wrong" with air flights to Syrian territory, I think Yo ... for the next "Lost" falcon of Erdogan already over the territory of Syria, our VKS will literally days. For Turkey can no longer stop bombing the Kurds / suffer from topographic cretinism / bully the Syrians ... The question is what "Baboon" will fly when on the ground of Syria, several kilometers or even dozens of F-16 or F-4 debris are filmed Turkish Air Force. -TURKEY HAS THE RIGHT TO PROTECT ITS AIRSPACE There are no questions, because -SYRIA HAS THE RIGHT TO PROTECT ITS AIR SPACE.
          The 300-ki of "Moscow" are already ransacking with their locators almost the entire border of Syria and Turkey. There is an opinion that 400 "non-existent" in Syria from the base in Latakia have also joined.
          So what are waiting "King-bird song" on the net and see how she- "ObamDogan" sings ...

          P.S. Favorite movie of my childhood (albeit Turkish), especially the main actress there liked bully
        4. +2
          25 November 2015 11: 20
          To the question “how do you assess the actions of the Syrian Turkmen who fired at the ejected pilots of the Russian Su-24,” Toner replied:
          "If the Turkmen forces were attacked by Russian air strikes, they could defend themselves."

          To the journalist’s other question, “Is shooting at unarmed pilots who parachuted” can be considered self-defense, the State Department spokesman replied: “there is no clear understanding of what really happened there”.


          Yes, a terrible threat posed to the US-sponsored "moderate" bearded pilots who descended on parachutes and had only the Komar beacon, NAZ, and PM in their "arsenal" ...
        5. +15
          25 November 2015 11: 42
          The US forgot to sign.ADDITIONAL PROTOCOL TO THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS
          OF AUGUST 12, 1949 CONCERNING THE PROTECTION OF VICTIMS
          INTERNATIONAL ARMED CONFLICT.
          (PROTOCOL I)
          PROTOCOL
          June 8, 1977 Article 42
          Persons on board aircraft

          1. Not a single person leaving a parachute flying machine,
          distressed, not attacked during his descent
          to the ground.
          2. The person who left the aircraft with a parachute, suffering
          disaster upon landing in nasty controlled territory
          the party is given the opportunity to surrender before it
          will become an object of attack if it does not become obvious that it
          commits a hostile action.

          http://www.businesspravo.ru/Docum/DocumShow_DocumID_33518.html
          1. +5
            25 November 2015 11: 57
            Sorry, dear forum users for my critical attitude to the Kremlin, but the question cannot be understood: why isn’t the moon landscape at the place of the death of our pilot ?! And why do the herds of Turkoman continue to exist?
            Has the Kremlin still been sick of building an altruist and philanthropist, an adherent of the fettering international (?) Law?
            1. +6
              25 November 2015 12: 05
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              Sorry, dear forum users for my critical attitude to the Kremlin, but the question cannot be understood: why isn’t the moon landscape at the place of the death of our pilot ?! And why do the herds of Turkoman continue to exist?
              Has the Kremlin still been sick of building an altruist and a philanthropist?

              Greetings Sash hi
              Didn't you think that the "Lunar Landscape" in return could appear in hotels with our 10 thousand tourists who are now in Turkey? ..
              All in good time, we will take all the Genes and Vovanov back to their native Tagil and then at least draw "Martian landscapes" wink
              1. 0
                25 November 2015 12: 31
                Quote: Now we are free
                to native Tagil


                I'm at home ... And Uncle Vova is nearby ... you can draw
                PS: And leave Gena with Vovan there ...
              2. +2
                25 November 2015 15: 06
                Greetings! Of course, your truth! Even if our EMERCOM forces within a day began a mass evacuation of citizens of the Russian Federation, you can imagine the PANIC LEVEL IN TURKEY! And in NATO?
                Our simply wouldn’t be let out. The Ottoman imagination would have drawn nuclear mushrooms, and now it’s just a stupor from visible socio-economic disasters and a willingness to reconcile with Kurdistan (at least the Soviet leaders considered this option).
                Now only Russia can ask the Turks on historical accounts. Especially when in response to "the outstretched hand was struck in the back."

                Nevertheless, I believe that in response to eastern villainy, we have enough strength, money and will to engage in full contact battle in the international ring. The winner gets everything (whatever he wants)!
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            3. +3
              25 November 2015 12: 10
              Quote: SibSlavRus
              with: why isn’t the lunar landscape at the place of the death of our pilot?

              Judging by reports from there, in that place right now, bomb bombers are putting the landscape in order.
              1. 0
                25 November 2015 13: 33
                Quote: Alexander Romanov
                Judging by reports from there, in that place right now, bomb bombers are putting the landscape in order.


                Can I link to at least one such message?
            4. 0
              25 November 2015 12: 13
              and you were in those places that so sharply claim that the Turkmens only gingerbread from the sky after that poured?
          2. 0
            25 November 2015 12: 04
            USA forgot to sign

            Alexander, how long have Americans begun to reckon with international documents? hi
          3. +1
            25 November 2015 12: 08
            hi Sasha!
            Bold plus for the info!
            I poke her familiar "Liverals" in the face ...
            1. +1
              25 November 2015 12: 14
              Quote: Now we are free
              I poke her familiar "Liverals" in the face ...

              And then with a foot in the face hi
              Quote: Rokossovsky
              Alexander, how long have Americans begun to reckon with international documents?

              I'm talking about the fact
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          5. 0
            25 November 2015 17: 24
            I think the pilot was injured in a rocket. In any case, for some time he was clearly lying face down or on his left side. On the left, it can get into the spleen or kidney, on the right with damage to the subclavian or brachial artery.
        6. -2
          25 November 2015 11: 53
          in self-defense, it’s high time to give a nuclear club to American cabbage soup ... do their representatives generally read the text before trying to communicate with the press?
      2. +7
        25 November 2015 11: 21
        The American talking heads are not brainless dolls, they are cynical ye..i. Somewhere, it was already proposed to multiply the Turkmen who shot the pilots by zero. I fully support. I wonder why this has not been done so far.
    2. +11
      25 November 2015 11: 05
      For the purpose of self-defense, I knew that the mattresses were stupid, but not the same, pilots fired from catapults or something, they were cheap and they would always be cheap.
      1. +5
        25 November 2015 11: 12
        it is very surprising when statements are made to Russia - they have a clear understanding of what has happened from social networks and who is to blame, but here there is no clear understanding and there is one lowing. . . rude words only enter my head. . . according to HOLLYWOOD, after all, you have super intelligence, super weapons, super optics, you are the most on the planet. . . and here a little that there is NO clear understanding and lowing?
      2. +4
        25 November 2015 11: 25
        Quote: 79807420129
        For the purpose of self-defense, I knew that the mattresses were stupid, but not the same, pilots fired from catapults or something, they were cheap and they would always be cheap.

        It’s just that they are not stupid in this case, but very intelligibly and rudely turn the situation in their favor, so that we wipe ourselves away, and the whole world decides that it was so ... Nobody canceled the information component of the war.
        That is why, at all levels, our diplomats and politicians say that the bomber was shot down over Syrian territory, that the F-16 pilot saw who was in front of him. This is purely planned diversion. We were punished for our carelessness. The bomber should not fly without cover, We ignored Erdogan’s statements that he would shoot down our planes and paid for it. Although it was at that moment when such statements were made, it was necessary to hastily strengthen the fighter component of the airborne forces in Syria and close the borders for our tourists to travel .
    3. +2
      25 November 2015 11: 07
      masters and champions in idiocy distinguished themselves again. well, how can one characterize their intellect without a mat? in Russian they are just dolba.
    4. +3
      25 November 2015 11: 12
      ! "" "State Department: Syrian oppositionists could open fire on Russian pilots in self-defense !!" "
      ..as always just brilliant ,, !!!
      ... true "defending Turks" (according to the State Department's terminology) ..fired a Russian plane into the right rear hemisphere ..
      ..He (Russian SU_24) that assaulted the Turks? laughing
      1. +1
        25 November 2015 11: 15
        Quote: 222222
        ! "" "State Department: Syrian oppositionists could open fire on Russian pilots in self-defense !!" "
        ..as always just brilliant ,, !!!
        ... true "defending Turks" (according to the State Department's terminology) ..fired a Russian plane into the right rear hemisphere ..
        ..He (Russian SU_24) that assaulted the Turks? laughing

        ..and what made you so amused in this situation?
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      3. 0
        25 November 2015 12: 20
        Quote: 222222
        .He (Russian SU_24) that ass attacked the Turks?


        Yes, everyone, even the hedgehog, understands the situation. It’s just that everyone (USA, UN, NATO, EU) pretends to be ropes, build eyebrows with a house and mumble something unintelligible since they took ... hard steps from Russia.
        But we need to calculate our actions 100 steps forward and act in such a way that henceforth no other “turkey” would be tempted to pull the bear by the mustache.
    5. +6
      25 November 2015 11: 13
      I really hope that now, solely for the purpose of self-defense, all oil terminals, fuel trucks will be destroyed, and a no-fly zone along the entire Turkish border will be declared, with the immediate downing of everything flying in from there. And also, I really hope that the bombers and attack aircraft will make along the border a control - track strip, 50 kilometers wide.
      1. +2
        25 November 2015 11: 39
        Quote: lelikas
        I really hope that now, solely for the purpose of self-defense, all oil terminals, fuel trucks will be destroyed, and a no-fly zone along the entire Turkish border will be declared, with the immediate downing of everything flying in from there. And also, I really hope that the bombers and attack aircraft will make along the border a control - track strip, 50 kilometers wide.

        Yes, but besides this, our submarines, I think, may well flood some tanker in the Turkish port in order to block the exit to other tankers. Why not? Then Erdogan will not see money from cheap oil soon.
        1. +1
          25 November 2015 15: 20
          Let me add.
          MINED PCB 50 kilometers.
          Whatever run back and forth could not think.
      2. 0
        25 November 2015 11: 47
        Quote: lelikas
        that now, solely for self-defense, all oil terminals, fuel trucks will be destroyed

        And where does self-defense? This should be done in any case, since this is nothing but all this good goes to the financing of terrorism.
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 16: 11
          That no one would say that peaceful drivers die (I won’t be surprised if they are Turks) and oil workers.
      3. 0
        25 November 2015 11: 47
        Quote: lelikas
        that now, solely for self-defense, all oil terminals, fuel trucks will be destroyed

        And where does self-defense? This should be done in any case, since this is nothing but all this good goes to the financing of terrorism.
    6. 0
      25 November 2015 11: 13
      I would like to see their reaction, if their pilot were in such a situation. Dirty, mean little souls !!!

      the French lesson is clearly not for the future!
    7. +1
      25 November 2015 11: 15
      Quote: sever.56
      Orenets can be from the cynicism of the Americans !!! This is how much you need to be the last bastard and scum, arguing that the shooting of almost unarmed pilots in the air is self-defense ... !!! I would like to see their reaction, if their pilot were in such a situation. Dirty, mean little souls !!!

      I will continue the statement of Valery.
      You might think that a special forces soldier in "armor" is sitting at the helm of the plane, ready to jump out of the plane at any moment and start mowing down the ground forces from the jump without fear of anything!
      It reminded me of the direct Holywood "fighters" with Bruce ...
      And when the Poles themselves fell near Smolensk, again the Russians were to blame, billiards !!!
      1. 0
        25 November 2015 11: 23
        They've seen enough of Rambov, then they carry all kinds of nonsense ...
        It’s time to shut off the moderates. It’s time to collect-scrape from the rocks and sweep small pieces.
    8. +3
      25 November 2015 11: 18
      Quote: sever.56
      Orenets can be from the cynicism of the Americans !!! This is how much you need to be the last bastard and scum, arguing that the shooting of almost unarmed pilots in the air is self-defense.

      ISIS cuts the heads of everyone in a row for self-defense.
    9. 0
      25 November 2015 11: 25
      Creatures all flew to Syria, the American coalition must be destroyed so that they do not fly in Syria and everything that flies will burn
    10. 0
      25 November 2015 11: 25
      With its statements, the US State Department has not surprised me for a long time.
    11. +2
      25 November 2015 11: 40
      Quote: sever.56
      I would like to see their reaction, if their pilot were in such a situation. Dirty, mean little souls !!!


      It seemed to be already in WWII.
      When Amer’s pilots shot the Japanese, who were floundering in the water after the sinking of the Japanese transport, it was right, because the Japanese were military specialists - pilots, sailors, artillerymen ...
      When the Japanese shot the shot down Amerovites at sea - this is an act of unjustified cruelty, a war crime.

      Nothing to be surprised - it's in their blood
    12. +2
      25 November 2015 11: 42
      Here are the faces of these hu ... nipples.
      1. +5
        25 November 2015 12: 48
        Specifically, to transfer these abreks to the care of the Kadyrovites. They know what to do with these stoned
    13. +13
      25 November 2015 11: 43
      The counter-question is whether the shooting of the black population at American policemen can be considered self-defense?
    14. +1
      25 November 2015 12: 09
      State Department: Syrian opposition could open fire on Russian pilots in self-defense


      GO YOU IN W ... PU! and heads are cut for self-defense?
    15. 0
      25 November 2015 12: 12
      Quote: sever.56
      Orenets can be from the cynicism of the Americans !!!

      Are you all "fucking"? Not tired? It's time to understand that the Anglo-Saxons simply have no alternatives to such behavior. Less emotion means better understanding. And to effectively resist, you need a good vision of the enemy.
      Quote: sever.56
      Dirty, mean little souls !!!

      They do not have any souls, they have "interests", at least those who form these "interests" ...
    16. +1
      25 November 2015 12: 17
      We are waiting for the performance of the S-400, when approaching closer than 4 km of Turkish fighters to the Syrian border. Hands untied ...
    17. 0
      25 November 2015 12: 17
      We are waiting for the performance of the S-400, when approaching closer than 4 km of Turkish fighters to the Syrian border. Hands untied ...
    18. 0
      25 November 2015 12: 36
      It was already in 1994 - when in Somalia their downed pilots were dragged along the streets, the USA was very surprised that they turned out to be able to kill too and quickly turned off
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    20. +2
      25 November 2015 12: 50
      Quote: sever.56
      Orenets can be from the cynicism of the Americans !!! This is how much you need to be the last bastard and scum, arguing that the shooting of almost unarmed pilots in the air is self-defense ... !!!

      In general, some kind of nonsense
      As far as I know . by the decision of the Hague Convention of 1907, shelling of parachutes descending was recognized as a violation of the rules of warfare.
      These rules also apply.
      Military laws, rights and obligations apply not only to the army, but also to militias and volunteer units if they satisfy all of the following conditions:
      1) are led by a person responsible for their subordinates;
      2) have a distinctive mark that is clearly visible from a distance;
      Xnumx) openly carry weapons and
      4) abide by the laws and customs of war in their actions.


      they seem to be recognized in the West as an organized force.
      Generally, like cheese threatens the mouse. Rave.
    21. +1
      25 November 2015 13: 55
      And as with such choices .... you can agree on something. It no longer fits the head. Scum scum, you can’t write harder, otherwise they will be banned.
    22. 0
      25 November 2015 15: 23
      There is nothing special to expect from this state-villains, they were brought up by "tolerant" Saxons. The most important thing for them now is to fan the 3rd World War. And here their cynicism is a deliberate tactic. Indeed, without the blessing of the "US" Turkey would never have dared to take such actions. The only thing is not clear why the actions of the front-line bomber Su 24 were without cover for the Su27SM3 aviation. After all, these are the basics, tactics of using air operations. With the Su 27's cover in place, Turkey would not take such a risk. I feel very sorry for people. Now the strikes must be delivered under the cover of air defense, and even "accidentally" on the territory of Turkey, only by the forces of the Kurds and the Syrian army. soldier
    23. His
      0
      25 November 2015 18: 57
      It’s just a puzzle.
  2. +5
    25 November 2015 11: 02
    Turkmens opened fire on catapulting Russian pilots for self-defense,


    ,,, are you stupid people ??

    ,,, shoot the pilots when they parachute ,,,, bastard
  3. +11
    25 November 2015 11: 03
    I hope the information that our guys processed the basmachi for fertilizer is correct ... eyes flowed from the photo .. damn it ...
    1. +28
      25 November 2015 11: 10
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/012/gauv676.png

      Andrei Yurievich, I welcome hi
      Yesterday, the Syrian Kurds promised to avenge our pilot.
      The point is small - put them MANPADS. Let them keep their promise ...
      1. +1
        25 November 2015 11: 28
        They are such American "oppositionists" and cut off the heads of bound prisoners solely for self-defense purposes.
      2. +2
        25 November 2015 11: 30
        Quote: sever.56
        Andrei Yurievich, I welcome
        Yesterday, the Syrian Kurds promised to avenge our pilot.
        The point is small - put them MANPADS. Let them keep their promise ..

        Hello Valera, I hope they will keep their word, (both the Kurds and ours) will wait ... "the ashes of Claes, knocking on my heart" ... The Legend of Ulenspiegel, Charles de Coster.
        Every time before a responsible step, he repeats: "Klaas's ashes knock on my heart." Allegorically: a reminder of the dead and a call for revenge. (We will wait very much ...)
        1. +2
          25 November 2015 11: 35
          Quote: Andrey Yurievich
          "Klaas' ash knocks on my heart."

          I also like the phrase of Napoleon Bonaparte:
          - "THE ENEMY CAN BE FORGIVEN, BUT FIRST IT IS NECESSARY TO DESTROY IT" ...
          1. +1
            25 November 2015 11: 40
            Success is not final, failure is not fatal, only the courage to continue matters.
            Winston Churchill
      3. 0
        25 November 2015 11: 33
        I believe that this issue should be carefully considered. If the Turks do not want to be our allies, then you need to find the one who wants ...
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      5. 0
        25 November 2015 11: 44
        Quote: sever.56
        Yesterday, the Syrian Kurds promised to avenge our pilot.

        Kurds are also not clear on whose side they are playing. Now they kiss the amers, therefore it is not known to whom MANPADS can end up.
        1. +2
          25 November 2015 12: 11
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Kurds are also not clear on whose side they are playing.

          well, Erdogan, they’re definitely not Sanya’s relatives ...
        2. -1
          25 November 2015 12: 46
          In good times, the PKK was supported by Syria and the USSR. In 99g, Ocalan was betrayed by both us (the same GDP) and Assad. The Jews (what was it for?) Helped the Turks capture it in Africa (all the same, strange relations between Jews and Turks in the Turks, don’t you? ). And the question is, who do the Kurds do business with? I understand that they should be deeply spoiled if they are given weapons and ammunition (and do not care whether the Germans or the Americans are friends for a long time; we are the Turks for the kickbacks of the Kremlin repair they looked into the chocolate eye). Sasha, MANPADS from the Kurds can only get into Turkish aviation. The Kurds were always on their own (they never came close to any of the radical currents)
      6. +1
        25 November 2015 12: 51
        I think the probability is high that the MANPADS will be at the Kurds. Transmission paths may be the most unexpected. And it will be more than CORRECT.
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 14: 17
          Dear brothers on the site, regarding the MANPADS, it’s a rake ,, USA, leave it to them, but in general, if you want to do something well, do it yourself,
      7. 0
        25 November 2015 13: 05
        And that's why I want to take and really give the Kurds MANPADS for temporary use.
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  4. 0
    25 November 2015 11: 04
    The State Department can carry any nonsense through the lips of its "androids", if something completely unreal is said, then Jim Carrey will then refute it. But the whole world listens to their clowns, and our words fly past our ears.
    Where is the reaction of our Defense Ministry and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to the plane, I am generally silent about the behavior of GDP, there will be a repeat of the story with Kursk.
  5. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 04
    State Department: Syrian opposition could open fire on Russian pilots in self-defense


    Well, well, the opposition of the terrorist international, get ready for the same thing to be done for you in self-defense.
  6. +6
    25 November 2015 11: 05
    The State Department can not say such a thing. Interesting John McCain will speak out about the execution of pilots. After all, McCain himself and some others in Vietnam were left alive. Probably more thanks to the Russians. After all, they could torture to death ...
  7. +6
    25 November 2015 11: 06
    “There is no clear understanding of what really happened there”

    There is a clear understanding that not the Turks themselves decided on such a provocation.
    Too many "accidents" in a very short time (undermining of the transmission lines to the Crimea) indicates a clear correlation of all these events.
  8. +20
    25 November 2015 11: 07
    Please see and distribute ...
    1. 0
      25 November 2015 11: 42
      Quote: Altona
      Please see and distribute ..

      send to Brussels ...
  9. KOH
    +4
    25 November 2015 11: 07
    My teeth just grind with anger ...
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    1. 0
      25 November 2015 11: 26
      Guys! Let's not confuse people and power. We, too, are in power full of frostbitten liberalists. Specifically - this is Erdogan scum.
  11. +5
    25 November 2015 11: 08
    The Russian ambassador to France, Alexander Orlov, confirmed that one of the pilots of the Russian Su-24M, shot down by Turkish F-16 over Syrian territory, is in the army of the President of the Arab Republic, Bashar al-Assad. It is reported by Reuters.

    Earlier on Wednesday, November 25, Lebanese television channel Al Mayadeen reported on Facebook that the special forces had withdrawn the pilot from the rear of the militants for two hours. He is currently safe at the Khmeimim base, where Russian aviation is deployed.
    1. -1
      25 November 2015 11: 31
      The co-pilot is most likely dead.
  12. +10
    25 November 2015 11: 08
    I offer my condolences to the family and friends of the deceased military pilot who participated in the fight against terrorism! As for the State Department, there is no equal in arrogance and arrogance!
  13. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 09
    The Zamkobat on VDS spoke about such people like this: a pronounced "woodpecker" conceived in a telephone booth with a gnarled finger with the help of silicate glue - go find this booth and scrape that you did not have enough.
  14. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 11
    Now let them bury themselves in the ground for self-defense, of course, they will not save from Betabs, but dying in a shelter is calmer ...
  15. +3
    25 November 2015 11: 11
    And now Turkish fighters will start to fall, but apparently an incredible howl will stand on each of these facts ...
  16. +7
    25 November 2015 11: 11
    Burn napalm throughout the area where our pilot was killed.
  17. +5
    25 November 2015 11: 12
    Well, of course! I suppose there, in the pilots’ pocket, the nuclear grenades were lost, and the poor Turkmen felt a threat and opened fire. You can go nuts! Well, after such a statement from the State Department, Russia must already 100% throw a forceful response!
  18. 0
    25 November 2015 11: 12
    Do not confuse the notion that the United States would absolutely do not care for its pilot, the main thing is what benefit can be derived from the incident. And we have a different attitude, if the plane had been stupidly shot down by the tunnels and forgiven. And in this episode I’m even afraid to imagine what measures they decide to take.
  19. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 13
    "... the Syrian Turkmens .."
    And what, the director of this tribe of gurus still does not pinch for cellulite ass ?!
  20. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 13
    For some reason, our brightest Khan of all time is silent
    1. +1
      25 November 2015 11: 44
      Quote: Mig-31
      For some reason, our brightest Khan of all time is silent

      so ask Your Khan: why are you silent ???
      1. +5
        25 November 2015 12: 20
        the time will come ask don't worry! It’s just a shame, it seems like we are a member of the CSTO, but not one leader of the CSTO states did not express support for the GDP and did not express condolences to the families of the victims! Enrage! angry
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 16: 39
          Quote: Mig-31
          the time will come ask don't worry! It’s just a shame, it seems like we are a member of the CSTO, but not one leader of the CSTO states did not express support for the GDP and did not express condolences to the families of the victims! Enrage! angry

          Not one head of the country expressed condolences. Only one, either the king or the prince of Jordan, expressed his condolences to Putin yesterday in connection with the death of the pilot. Conclusion: only one head of state in the world turned out to be a real person.
    2. +3
      25 November 2015 11: 45
      Quote: Mig-31
      For some reason, our brightest Khan of all time is silent


      Screaming in anger - ridiculous, silent in anger - scary. (Abay)

      revenge is a cold dish and must be expertly prepared ...

      The main thing is that she must achieve the goal. Thoughtful, prudent, sophisticated, irresistible, even public in a sense, that is, so that everyone would guess who committed it, but could not prove anything! Oh how! This is the second reason revenge is served cold.

      Revenge is a dish that is prepared for two: to the plaintiff - like heavenly ragweed, to the defendant - like a bone in the throat. In addition, there are others! Whoever doesn’t dare immediately: such a cook is not worth hitting!

      Well, the third point: uncontrolled hatred fills our minds and pushes us to reckless decisions. In severe cases, hatred can even take the form of affect. Try to keep yourself in control, do not let your revenge turn out to be stupid or puny precocious clown showing cookie in his pocket.
      1. +3
        25 November 2015 12: 26
        Thanks for the enlightenment! It just takes anger when our president is silent when there is such grief in the fraternal state, that there was a lope of terrorist attacks against the Russian Federation, but for some reason I did not hear a word condemning the word of terrorism from our president.
    3. -3
      25 November 2015 12: 22
      CORN, you would fill up your pit angry
      1. +1
        25 November 2015 12: 43
        I'll fill up your dirty little soul!
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 16: 41
          Quote: Mig-31
          I'll fill up your dirty little soul!

          Do not pay attention - not adequate.
          1. 0
            25 November 2015 17: 38
            I'm talking about a mantis.
  21. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 13
    This is 100% ISIS, just the State Department encrypts them under the name of Turkoman recourse
  22. +4
    25 November 2015 11: 13
    Quote: Maksus
    The State Department can carry any nonsense through the lips of its "androids", if something completely unreal is said, then Jim Carrey will then refute it. But the whole world listens to their clowns, and our words fly past our ears.
    Where is the reaction of our Defense Ministry and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs to the plane, I am generally silent about the behavior of GDP, there will be a repeat of the story with Kursk.

    you do not track news at all?
    Russia freezes ties with Turkey due to the death of a bomber
    https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/articles/2015/11/25/618247-rossiya-zamorazhiva
    et-svyazi-turtsiei-gibeli-bombardirovschika
    Source: Empty charters will be sent to Turkey
    http://vz.ru/news/2015/11/25/780114.html
    This is the Foreign Ministry
    First: All actions of strike aviation will be carried out only under the cover of fighter aircraft.

    Second: Measures will be taken to strengthen air defense. To this end, the cruiser "Moscow", equipped with an air defense system "Fort", similar to the S-300, will occupy the area in the coastal part of Latakia. We warn that all goals that pose a potential danger to us will be destroyed.

    Third: military contacts with Turkey will be terminated
    This is MO
    Medvedev: Russia has data on Turkey’s financial interest in purchasing oil from IG
    http://vz.ru/news/2015/11/25/780105.html
    This is prime
    Do they want to put NATO at the service of ISIS? I understand that each state has its own regional interests, and we always treat them with respect. But we will never tolerate crimes like today.
    This is the president
    1. 0
      25 November 2015 11: 25
      the fort can operate at 200 km as much as possible, and the real effective range is lower ...
      1. 0
        25 November 2015 11: 43
        Sorry, but for now these are just newspaper headlines and words ...
        I would like action.
      2. +2
        25 November 2015 11: 52
        Quote: AlexTires
        the fort can operate at 200 km as much as possible, and the real effective range is lower ...


        that 154 over the Black Sea also thought so belay
  23. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 14
    “Is it possible to consider self-defense shooting at unarmed pilots who ejected by parachutes,” the representative of the State Department replied: “there is no clear understanding of what really happened there.”

    We have an understanding of what really happened. In the State Department, this happened a long time ago. They have long considered all nerds, and therefore they tell fables.
  24. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 15
    Are you in the State Department full of idiots? How could two pilots threaten dozens of gunmen with guns?
  25. +3
    25 November 2015 11: 15
    Cynicism rolls over. Our pilots, on the other hand, did not make fun of machine guns while parachuting. Self-defense from unarmed pilots, who already got it ... From the flies you still have to defend yourself, cattle.
    Sorry for our guys. Terrible situation. Get down, they shoot at you, and you can’t even do anything like a target ... Land in peace, to the dead pilot. I would like to hope that the second is alive and will be saved.
  26. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 17
    In general, all once again convinced what is moderate and where the legs grow with ears. And the State Department went on .... to clarify in the office.
  27. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 17
    Let us remember these words of yours, oh, and remember, you are corrupt souls!
    And we will return to you, we will fully return everything!
    So get ready for the day when the Russians come ..!
    And (I repeat!) - then don’t whine that Otto Eduard Leopold von Bismarck-Schönhausen did not warn you about the consequences!
  28. +25
    25 November 2015 11: 19
    we thank the special forces of Syria for saving one Russian pilot
    قوى سورية من أجل خلاص طيار روسي
    1. +6
      25 November 2015 11: 23
      The Syrians, unlike our "brothers" whom we have saved countless times, remember the good ... and I believe that they will never forget
    2. 0
      25 November 2015 12: 08
      Well, the navigator, thank God, was pulled out! You can't return the commander. Now is the time to start Operation Retaliation 2. And not any "smart" bombs and missiles. Carpet bombardment on brilliant green to the state of the desert and napalm to smell the smoke in Ankara. And those who on the video with our pilot lit up, for a count ... am
      Still, to find a Turkish pilot with F-16 and, as usual, an ice ax
      1. 0
        25 November 2015 12: 21
        Quote: shultc
        Still, to find a Turkish pilot with F-16 and, as usual, an ice ax

        Better than the one who gave the order.
        1. 0
          25 November 2015 13: 09
          An ice ax is not an ice ax, but a car accident, or pickled mushrooms as an option - tea with polonium.
  29. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 20
    I really hope that our leadership has the will to bomb these animals in the Stone Age!
    1. -1
      25 November 2015 11: 27
      nobody will bomb them
  30. 0
    25 November 2015 11: 20
    It is difficult to say anything .... but it will not last forever, do Americans really understand this? Russia is reborn and very soon they will clog into a corner and sit there, and everything will be done with our permission! And then they will FILTER their statements ....
  31. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 21
    All these questions and answers, except irritation, do not bring anything useful. I just want these defendants to immediately tear their heads off and that's it.
  32. +16
    25 November 2015 11: 21
    Apparently so, otherwise it is already impossible ..
  33. +7
    25 November 2015 11: 24
    It seems to me that it’s time to plow this area a little with ammunition of a volumetric explosion, because Satanovsky was right, for years he said that geeks understand only power, and at the genetic level they should feel it ...
    1. +2
      25 November 2015 11: 35
      I really hope that the military is preparing a serious answer, because as politicians, all these whore for money have already sold their homeland more than once and will be selling it. They have their own interests in Turkey, because they do not care about our military, they have business, rags, hotels, gas supplies, the construction of a nuclear power plant on credit! They banned tours! This is a tough reaction! People who decided to relax, what do you mean? It is necessary to break off diplomatic relations, ban all imports from Turkey, block the pipe, in the end what gas at a reduced price, if they bring down our planes! All these Turkmen or who they are there - napalm, to level all the mountains, and to arrange for this brave pilot on F-16 everything that our pilot suffered before his death! I’m not bloodthirsty, but it’s painful to watch how some sort of Turkey does everything it wants, to the malicious smiles of Bandera, but there is no answer.
    2. +2
      25 November 2015 12: 52
      Quote: AlexTires
      It seems to me that it’s time to plow this area a little with ammunition of a volumetric explosion, because Satanovsky was right, for years he said that geeks understand only power, and at the genetic level they should feel it ...

      ---------------------
      And how many squeals there was about Comrade Stalin's "inhuman attitude" towards the Crimean Tatars ... Comrade Stalin was right three times, a man of the kindest soul ... He did not kill, but simply moved to sunny Kazakhstan ...
  34. +5
    25 November 2015 11: 25
    Yesterday, when watching a video on the Internet, I noticed that behind the scenes there was a sound similar to the shutter of a professional camera ... Are Turkoman fought with mirrors ?? Correspondent, most likely ... Accidentally ended up there? Oh, I do not believe in coincidence ... Prepared provocation? Yes, I’m sure for many percent ... But such an initiative without the permission of the owners is impossible ... The States are aware from the very beginning what they can say ... It's a pity people, the Marine died yesterday ...
  35. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 26
    Here all doubts have already moved aside that the State Department is a bunch of idiots with a complete lack of brains, their boss says that "we have the right to be idiots," I do not remember literally, but the meaning is this.
  36. +3
    25 November 2015 11: 30
    “A slight violation of the border cannot be an excuse for such an attack. A Turkish plane made a training flight, checking the operation of radars in the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea ” - such a statement was made Erdogan (then Prime Minister) in 2012, after the Syrian military shot down the F-4 Phantom plane, which violated the borders of Syrian airspace.
  37. 0
    25 November 2015 11: 31
    It’s funny if it weren’t so sad.
  38. 0
    25 November 2015 11: 32
    The meanness of the State Department has no boundaries.
  39. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 33
    And now there will be the most interesting.
    Strange as it may seem, the DPR and LPR have the right to self-defense. And now, in full accordance with the logic of this bleating ram. And do not be offended, mattresses - they will roll out your bedding solely in self-defense.
  40. 0
    25 November 2015 11: 33
    The Psaki affair lives and grows! Shoot the crowd with hooting at the defenseless is self-defense ?? ! Thank God, the second, it seems, was saved.
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  42. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 36
    Dirty, mean little souls !!!


    The problem is that they sold them to the devil and they do not belong to them ....
  43. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 36
    they (Turkmens) could defend themselves

    This is not idiocy and cynicism - it is an ingrained habit of blaming the Russians for everything, whatever happens. This once again confirms that it is useless, sometimes dangerous to try to come to an agreement with these (Americans). They even humanly accept the attempt to talk with them as our weakness with the ensuing consequences. But there is only one conversation with the Turkmens - to wet it over the entire area of ​​residence.
  44. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 37
    Crossed the Turkish Border Speak? In which place?
  45. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 40
    Ha ha mixed the Yankees. I would look at them if. Shot down their plane
  46. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 42
    Sergei Shoigu announced the transfer of S-400 air defense systems to the Hmeimim air base in Syria in Russia 24
  47. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 43
    Turkey’s prez with her son had money from caravans of oil that bombed the VKS from that and
  48. 0
    25 November 2015 11: 44
    How would the Yankees screech if their plane were shot down and their pilot shot? !!! They would immediately recall international rights, etc.
  49. 0
    25 November 2015 11: 45
    Yes, these amerikosy went, they must also be brought down to the noise like we didn’t know that there were Americans or we didn’t see that there were Americans
  50. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 45
    Quote: brasist
    I found it on the site.

    The deceased Russian Pilot Rumyantsev Sergey Alexandrovich. EVERLASTING MEMORY!

    HE LIVING !!! on each branch you have to spread
    Chelyabinsk military pilot Sergei Rumyantsev was mistakenly named dead during the crash of a Su-24 bomber shot down by a Turkish fighter in Syria.http: //rusvesna.su/news/1448424821
    No need to bury ahead of time
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    2. +1
      25 November 2015 11: 49
      Quote: Lalaika
      HE LIVING !!! on each branch you have to spread
      Chelyabinsk military pilot Sergei Rumyantsev was mistakenly named dead during the crash of a Su-24 bomber shot down by a Turkish fighter in Syria.http: //rusvesna.su/news/1448424821
      No need to bury ahead of time

      I apologize.

      I am very glad that I was mistaken.
  51. 0
    25 November 2015 11: 45
    To the journalist’s other question, “Is shooting at unarmed pilots who parachuted” can be considered self-defense, the State Department spokesman replied: “there is no clear understanding of what really happened there”.
    . That's understandable! This is not for average minds from a correction class (or correctional school) wassat ! For people like these from the State Department, even in the multiplication tables - “There is no clear understanding...” lol What can we say about higher mathematics!!!
  52. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 46
    In the 21st century, Russia will have to, as it has done more than once, rid the world now of the black plague. And the Turks should be reminded of how previous wars with Russia ended for them. They so naively think that NATO will harness itself, yeah right now: The Greeks themselves are ready to tear them apart, the Bulgarians quietly hate them, the Italians are my house on the edge, who else will go to fight for Turkey? The USA - I very much doubt this, they have betrayal in their blood, they betray each and every one, especially their allies. So, if something serious happens, Erdogashka is asked to get out on his own. Who would want to get a tryndyul because of the artistry of this bastard? I don't think there will be anyone willing to do it.
  53. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 47
    Yes, Americans should also be destroyed in the toilet.
  54. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 47
    Quote: Mig-31
    For some reason, our brightest Khan of all time is silent

    Can anyone downvote explain why?
  55. 0
    25 November 2015 11: 48
    Those. American pilots need to be shot or even hanged because they pose a threat throughout the world, and the world needs to defend itself
  56. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 48
    Bright and eternal memory to you Rumyantsev Serey Aleksandrovich.
  57. cap
    0
    25 November 2015 11: 48
    Quote: Observer 33
    Now let them bury themselves in the ground for self-defense, of course, they will not save from Betabs, but dying in a shelter is calmer ...

    Important addition. No need to bury hi
  58. +2
    25 November 2015 11: 49
    Were the twin towers also destroyed in self-defense?
  59. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 54
    As soon as the message about the downed plane appeared, “experts” jumped out from everywhere and began to judge and judge. They argued heatedly. Zhirinovsky fell into hysterics when he was told that there was someone smarter than him. In general, they were interested in two things. Why did Erdogan do this and what should we do about it now? On the first question, it was mainly the aunties who differed, as if Erdogan was their naughty son. On the second question, opinions differed sharply. The most zealous declared that the time had come to hoist the Russian flag over Constantinople. The most cautious ones advised not to rush to think everything over and begin diplomatic measures, which in their opinion should be tough, that is, the Foreign Ministry should express indignation to Erdogan personally. and if it doesn’t work out, then at least send it to the ambassador. It seems to me that first of all it is necessary to take the deposited measures, that is, those necessary measures that we did not take, so as not to quarrel with Turkey. For example, for some reason we did not ban the Crimean Mejlis, which is no better than the right sector, and put its leaders on the wanted list. You can thoroughly comb through the underground among the Crimean Tatars, and you don’t need to be shy about suppressing extremist cells in the Turkic-speaking republics. If we shorten them, this will be the best answer to Erdogan.
  60. -1
    25 November 2015 11: 55
    Where is Russia's answer?! Is this again Putin’s cunning plan?! This is an open declaration of war!
    1. 0
      25 November 2015 12: 06
      Quote: Seryoga0629
      Where is Russia's answer?! Is this again Putin’s cunning plan?! This is an open declaration of war!

      Do you want a nuclear warrior?
    2. +1
      25 November 2015 12: 49
      The second day I feel a burning sensation in my veins, I try to be distracted by work, everything falls out of my hands, my thoughts again return to the pilots, Erdogan, plans for revenge, etc. And I’m so glad that I’m not the president, I don’t have to watch my every word and action. I don’t need to be responsible for ALL my citizens, I don’t need to suppress my seething emotions, be calm and reasonable. There will be consequences, but don’t rush, no matter how painful and offensive it may be now.
  61. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 56
    Get the pilot's body, and then take everything there to a certain Erdogan mother. I don't care about the "civilian" population. Anyone who has not left their habitat and is not fighting a terrorist should be considered a terrorist. Don't care about liberal cries, destroy everyone. Shoot down everything that even just flies up to the border, incl. to the Turkish-Armenian one, and then say “we warned him 10 times.” No emotions, just cold revenge. And in addition, renew relations with the Kurds, and at the highest level, declare them a national liberation movement, accordingly, officially help with weapons, etc. Just like in the 90s, the Turks openly helped the Chechens fight against Russia. I'm not even talking about the total destruction of oil traffic with all its infrastructure, trucks, drivers and other service personnel. No mercy. Just revenge, the usual way of educating savages so that they don’t dare raise their eyes to the sky, so that at the mention of Russia the number of gray hairs and heart attacks increases sharply even in subsequent generations.
    Perhaps unnecessarily cruel, but there is no other way now...
  62. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 56
    It seems to me that the unfriendly tribes responsible for the death of the pilot should be destroyed regardless of the degree of moderation, since they pose a threat to the life and health of the pilots of the Russian Aerospace Forces during the implementation of the counter-terrorism operation... Well, in State Department language (the Americans would have added something else about democracy ...)... And to put it in Russian - burn everything out there...
  63. +1
    25 November 2015 11: 58
    what a vile provocation, but it was expected.
  64. +1
    25 November 2015 12: 05
    Quote: brasist
    Quote: Lalaika
    HE LIVING !!! on each branch you have to spread
    Chelyabinsk military pilot Sergei Rumyantsev was mistakenly named dead during the crash of a Su-24 bomber shot down by a Turkish fighter in Syria.http: //rusvesna.su/news/1448424821
    No need to bury ahead of time

    I apologize.

    I am very glad that I was mistaken.

    drinks
  65. cap
    +1
    25 November 2015 12: 11
    Quote: Slavs
    Yesterday, when watching a video on the Internet, I noticed that behind the scenes there was a sound similar to the shutter of a professional camera ... Are Turkoman fought with mirrors ?? Correspondent, most likely ... Accidentally ended up there? Oh, I do not believe in coincidence ... Prepared provocation? Yes, I’m sure for many percent ... But such an initiative without the permission of the owners is impossible ... The States are aware from the very beginning what they can say ... It's a pity people, the Marine died yesterday ...

    Moreover, they weren’t filming on a smartphone. Try to catch a falling plane through the viewfinder, if you don’t have a wide-angle lens. They’re shouting next to you behind the scenes, your hand continues to confidently hold the frame. It feels like school. They conveyed it over the Internet. You’d have to carry a donkey for a week. Everything is clear with the customer .CIA. With the perpetrator too. The pilot who shot down will receive his “blood” blood money and Erdogan. The main beneficiary is “Smoked” and his pack. They say they didn’t want to join a coalition with us. Receive.
    Our GDP has already taken the first steps.
    The next step is our military-industrial complex. hi
    1. +1
      25 November 2015 12: 20
      Maybe it’s MO after all? hi
  66. 0
    25 November 2015 12: 15
    Did anyone expect a different interpretation from the State Department? Maybe there are still people in the world who believe that the West has honor, conscience or a sense of compassion towards us? If there are such people, then they are deaf and blind.
  67. 0
    25 November 2015 12: 17
    Erdogad, may you die, you cowardly evil spirit negative
  68. 0
    25 November 2015 12: 22
    It seems that initially the order was not to be taken alive, so as not to tell how it really happened. If one is alive, then something has gone wrong. I'm afraid that they will do everything so that we don't see the pilot alive. But God grant that he returns alive and well and tells how these cowardly creatures can only shoot in the back when you don’t expect it. Kill them for just scratching along the borders of Syria. And let’s say a special thank you for the borderline “Satanovsky Crust”!
  69. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 36
    The plane was destroyed in an ambush. Moreover, in order not to be detected, the fighter did not turn on the radar, but used a missile with a TGS, and was definitely in Syrian airspace.
    It is impossible not to notice that the Turks and Americans carefully planned the action and prepared in advance “right-wing” and “psychological” justifications for the exemplary destruction of the pilots. It must be said that the configuration of the border between Turkey and Syria in the place where the plane was shot down is very specific. That is why provocation should have been expected after the corresponding statements by the Turks and Americans at this point. Next, the trajectory of the plane's fall and the area where the crew members could land after ejection were calculated.
    By the way, this area must be freed from the “Turkomans” first. Military air defense systems should be deployed in the area of ​​the ledge.
    Special forces and weapons were concentrated in the area to destroy the search and rescue team.
    Filming of the aircraft and subsequent events was carried out (including for the report). At the places where the crew landed on parachutes, they also fired from artillery guns.
    It is especially noteworthy that the downed helicopter was shot from the American TOW ATGM, and this is a serious weapon that requires training.
    Erdogan rushed to ask for protection from NATO and the United States. He received it, of course, but Erdogan is a political corpse, a pariah. He will most likely be overthrown because of the economic consequences.
  70. +1
    25 November 2015 13: 53
    I thought that there was no dumber dog in their State Department. I was wrong, however.
  71. 0
    25 November 2015 15: 36
    Quote: aktanir
    We found a second pilot, he is already at our air base, the Syrian special forces rescued him. Now it is possible, with a clear conscience, to destroy all the bearded who are in the area of ​​the plane crash site, especially those who, by their own inborn stupidity, managed to light up on frames with the killed Russian pilot. Their diagnosis is a suicide nerd.
    In vain the Turks did not answer properly. These are Asian people, hot-tempered and hot. Economic sanctions for them will turn into a slight startle. They have such a mentality, they must be really beaten and punished for misconduct, so that they begin to respect and fear. And these are not empty words. Asians recognize only power! By chatter and sanctions they cannot be appeased.

    They have already done so http://rusnext.ru/news/1448436056
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  73. 0
    25 November 2015 16: 40
    Only the State Department could come up with such crap. They were brainless, what kind of self-defense, when a man on a parachute ejected from a falling plane. fool fool
  74. 0
    25 November 2015 18: 38
    do not lie!!!!! These are no longer the same natives who started local wars! These are not those Afghan peasants with Berdan guns, these are professional fighters, and they will not shoot with all their strength at one pilot out of fear, they shot in the direction...

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