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Stoltenberg about the Su-24 incident: “I call for calm and de-escalation”

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NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg called for calm and de-escalation of the situation related to the incident with the Russian bomber Su-24, which was shot down on Tuesday by Turkish aircraft over the territory of Syria, reports RIA News.




“I call for calm and de-escalation,” said the Secretary General after an emergency meeting of the NATO Council.

The situation with the Russian aircraft is serious, and “requires that we all be careful and contribute to its de-escalation,” he added.

“This is also one of the reasons why I welcome further contacts between Moscow and Ankara. There were contacts, and we welcome them to be even more so as to partially solve this particular incident, but also to continue working on developing and strengthening mechanisms in order to avoid such situations in the future, ”said Stoltenberg.

“I would be careful to get too specific, into details. But I can confirm that the assessment we received from the allies coincides with what Turkey informed us earlier today, ”
he said.

However, according to an agency source, this is Stoltenberg’s private opinion, since it was not possible to work out a single decision at the Council itself.

“At the Council of NATO Permanent Representatives there were serious disagreements over the downed Russian plane. A number of representatives of member countries of the alliance were very cautious about Turkish complaints. Serious disagreements were, among other things, and according to the Turkish side, that the Russian military plane received more than twenty warnings, but there were only two, "- said the interlocutor of the RIA"News».

“In addition, according to sources, the audio recordings of the talks (Turkish pilots), transmitted by the representative of Turkey, are characterized as“ very incomprehensible, ”he added.

According to the source, Turkey "I could not provide clear evidence of the violation of the border by a Russian plane."
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 25 November 2015 09: 30 New
    32
    Stoltenberg about the Su-24 incident: “I call for calm and de-escalation”
    Calm you jackals with a couple of hundred "Gauges" with 200 kilotons each. And de-escalation will not keep you waiting.
    1. just exp
      just exp 25 November 2015 09: 32 New
      18
      and if our plane shot down a Turk. then they would have yelled about aggressive Russia.
      1. _Vladislav_
        _Vladislav_ 25 November 2015 09: 51 New
        27
        “In any case, our pilots, our aircraft did not threaten the Republic of Turkey in any way. This is an obvious thing. They conducted operations to combat ISIS "

        This is the key point. Su-24 did not break through to Ankara to bomb objects there
        .
        Erdogan is a cowardly Jackal. Please note that when the incident happened, he immediately left the country, flew to Brussels. He left the country, which, in theory, was supposed to undergo a retaliatory attack (not necessarily nuclear) any minute.
        This cowardly jackal abandoned his country, his people at a decisive moment, like: "intercede for me." And already from Brussels, I watched Putin's reaction. Probably called some general and asked - do you still exist?

        PS
        Now that we figured out what the Turks were freaking out, they should:
        First, transfer the money for the downed bomber (market value). Plus the amount should be including moral damage. Pay money to the family of the deceased pilot and the family of the survivor. With an official apology, and so on.
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 25 November 2015 09: 54 New
          +9
          Now that we figured out that the Turks
          USA USA USA USA USA

          Do you really think that HER.dogan is a NATO member, and not the highest level could violate the chain of command !?

          ON

          Quote: Stoltenberg
          "I call for calm and de-escalation"
          And I urge you, the USA, to start getting nervous urgently! And it's better to jump off your mind altogether, eating some galaperidol! We won't touch psychos! For experiments only!

          (I would like this answer from Vladimir)
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 25 November 2015 10: 09 New
            +1
            Quote: Baikonur
            And I urge you, the USA, to start getting nervous urgently! And it's better to jump off your mind altogether, eating some galaperidol! We won't touch psychos! For experiments only!

            Now it is fashionable in the (Western) media to talk about Russia's aggression, about the threat to Europe.
            I wonder what they will say now.

            If once a year and a stick shoots, then where is the guarantee that some nutcase will not freak out in the Baltic states, or in other areas where NATO troops are concentrated near our borders.

            This situation should be played up just like that. They say you are telling everyone that we are preparing to attack someone, but at the same time we shoot down our planes.
          2. Al_oriso
            Al_oriso 25 November 2015 10: 09 New
            +3
            Did they want a de-escalation?
            For them, everything is just beginning.
          3. nikolaev
            nikolaev 25 November 2015 11: 45 New
            +2
            It is obvious that the main customer is FSHP. Purpose: to quarrel Russia and Turkey, stop supplying Turkey with Russian gas, destroy the Turkish Stream project for Europe, block the Bosphorus for Russia = stop the Syrian express, i.e. to complicate operations against the IG and others.
        2. lukke
          lukke 25 November 2015 10: 23 New
          0
          Now that we figured out what the Turks were freaking out, they should:
          First, transfer the money for the shot down

          I think, firstly, there should have been an apology at the highest level, everything else - an addition and confirmation of atonement, incl. demonstrative flogging of the pilot efka and the head of the central control unit, who gave the go-ahead to mochilovo.
          But this is all - lyrics, analysis already allows us to judge that everything is planned, and Brussels depicts an active activity to "extinguish" the fire)
          1. kind
            kind 25 November 2015 11: 35 New
            0
            now they have to deliver their best goods to Russia for free within a year, and it is best to give us the Bosphorus!
            Yes, even let Erdogan (don) suck the dirtiest bum on the air.
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        4. Constructor1
          Constructor1 25 November 2015 10: 53 New
          +1
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          First, transfer the money for the downed bomber (market value). Plus the amount should be including moral damage.

          10 times the size !!!!!!
        5. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2015 11: 12 New
          0
          Please note that when the incident happened, he immediately left the country, flew to Brussels.
          exactly, when I heard about it, the first thought was: but he knew that he could get a "response" ... the cowardly jackal dumped, not for consultations, but out of cowardice ... elementary, and stupid.
        6. Ze Kot
          Ze Kot 25 November 2015 11: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: _Vladislav_
          Now that we figured out what the Turks were freaking out, they should:
          First, transfer the money for the downed bomber (market value). Plus the amount should be including moral damage. Pay money to the family of the deceased pilot and the family of the survivor. With an official apology, and so on.



          And give Russia the pilot and the person who gave the command to open fire.
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      3. ziqzaq
        ziqzaq 25 November 2015 10: 58 New
        0
        Quote: just EXPL
        and if our plane shot down a Turk. then they would have yelled about aggressive Russia.

        This is accurate.
        Listen, Stoltenberg, let's post you, and then we will call for calm ...
        Shak.aly mlyn .....
    2. Metallurgist
      Metallurgist 25 November 2015 09: 34 New
      +8
      Well, here is NATO, after “loud” words about the protection of sovereignty substitutes Turkey.
      Anglo-Saxons rule in the area of ​​the bases.
      And now Turkey will be alone and fully slurp the porridge that it has brewed, and NATO, no matter how.
      Nothing in the world is changing.
      1. insafufa
        insafufa 25 November 2015 09: 45 New
        +1
        Of course, Erdogan set himself up as the Poles set themselves up in 1939 by starting provocations in the border villages, but not the French, the British did not want to defend Poland
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 25 November 2015 09: 35 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      Stoltenberg about the Su-24 incident: “I call for calm and de-escalation”
      aha to calm you jackals "Calibers" with 200 kilotons each. And de-escalation will not keep you waiting.

      It is necessary to calm down, but only with a cool head, the West will hang all the dogs on us, even if we are right by 500%, but we simply have to slap the hands of the Turks. The sky over Syria must be completely closed.
    4. Starover_Z
      Starover_Z 25 November 2015 09: 40 New
      +4
      NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg called for calm and de-escalation of the situation related to the incident with the Russian Su-24 bomber

      Yes, we will shoot down, and you sit still!
      As if ISIS have aviation and have nothing to do with NAT, at least a tragic accident!
      S ... ki!
      I'm sorry for the pilots!
      Isn't it possible to close the Turkish direction now with fully vaunted electronic warfare systems?
      So that not a single s..ka could fly close, let alone shoot down our planes !!!
      1. Sharapov
        Sharapov 25 November 2015 10: 17 New
        +3
        And electronic warfare and S-400, and even more effective - the supply of air defense weapons to the Kurds and target designation ...
    5. makst83
      makst83 25 November 2015 09: 41 New
      14
      folk art does not sleep!
      1. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2015 11: 14 New
        -1
        Quote: makst83
        folk art does not sleep!

        ugh ... the meaning is twofold ...
    6. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 25 November 2015 09: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: Vladimir
      Calm you jackals with a couple of hundred "Gauges" with 200 kilotons each.

      - It's called ARMAGEDON. Then let's go to finish off with stakes.
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      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 25 November 2015 11: 18 New
        0
        Armageddon - for Turkey, and this is all over, an emergency convocation of the UN with a demand for Russia to stop delivering nuclear strikes against Turkey, no one will help them from NATO, moreover, after that all NATO will withdraw itself, because they will learn once and for all what to contact with Russia is deadly.
    7. Maksus
      Maksus 25 November 2015 10: 30 New
      +2
      Why can’t you calm down with these “calibers”? An ordinary cruise missile, no worse and no better than an “ax”. And if they shy away from us, warriors?
  2. Roman1970
    Roman1970 25 November 2015 09: 31 New
    +2
    The situation with the Russian aircraft is serious, and “requires that we all be careful and contribute to its de-escalation,” he added.
    It is clear that Stoltenberg is a diplomat and will try to end everything in peace, but I did not expect this from Erdogan ... Bashibuzuk sucks ...
    1. ArhipenkoAndrey
      ArhipenkoAndrey 25 November 2015 09: 53 New
      +1
      Again the Ottomans are trying to start a war, and the progressive Europa pushes them to this with such statements, people died and the Ottomans killed them, and for this they have to answer, another question is how, but to answer, so that just from the thought of shooting towards the Russian territory they get fucked up, and the plane this is Russian territory.
  3. DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 25 November 2015 09: 32 New
    -28
    Well, as I understand it, our people are afraid of NATO. Otherwise, the calibers would have flown to the Turks for a long time at the airfield with f16.
    1. Island
      Island 25 November 2015 09: 35 New
      15
      Stupidly waving a club, you don't need a big mind ...
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 25 November 2015 09: 38 New
        -4
        Cons gone, but what is not true or what? First of all, our people turn to the United States and ask why they didn't keep track of it, in one word.
        1. bubalik
          bubalik 25 November 2015 09: 42 New
          +2
          DIVAN SOLDIER (1) RU  Today, 09: 38 ↑ First of all, we turn to the USA, ask why we did not keep track of


          ..I agree with you, until the last pull, while Turkey consults with NATO, for now yes, they watched how they would respond, ,,,
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          2. bubalik
            bubalik 25 November 2015 10: 08 New
            0
            Moderators, that half the post chopped off? Decree from above? In order not to escalate tensions in society?
        2. Tambov Wolf
          Tambov Wolf 25 November 2015 11: 28 New
          -2
          Yes, let them minus. Uryakalka think that something will happen. But nothing will happen. They would try to shoot down a US plane. Today there would be carpet bombing of the Turks. And everyone understood that they should not touch them. Has anyone answered anything over the past ten years? No, even Chechen terrorists in London and Paris are still jumping. For good, from Qatar to this day, only sneakers should remain for our exploded plane and half of Turkey has been swept away. But we will cost the Turks nuclear power plants, supply them with gas and sometimes talk that this is not good. Green has long covered her eyes. Surkov and Shuvalov are perhaps patriots? Or friend Rotenberg? Do not make Brezhnev's heels laugh.
          1. 1rl141
            1rl141 25 November 2015 17: 22 New
            0
            Well, they shot down American planes, and not just one. So what? Someone saw the "carpet bombing" of the USSR?
            Americans will start fighting if it suits them. That is, if material benefit can be derived from this.
            And when they are afraid to receive a reply, they will sit and puff into a rag.
            During the Cold War, U.S. aircraft violated Soviet airspace on average 3 times a year, and several aircraft were shot down. The war did not begin. Because "we ourselves will find revolvers."
      2. dorz
        dorz 25 November 2015 09: 41 New
        +2
        In the sky of Syria, the Turks will now turn their heads 180 degrees.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 25 November 2015 09: 44 New
          +7
          Quote: dorz
          In the sky of Syria, the Turks will now turn their heads 180 degrees.


          they won't be there repeat
        2. DenZ
          DenZ 25 November 2015 10: 02 New
          +3
          In the sky of Syria, the Turks will now turn their heads 180 degrees.

          Do you watch briefings of the Ministry of Defense? What are the Turks in the Syrian sky after yesterday? Ours made it clear to them that it is better for them not to appear there.
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        4. Albert1988
          Albert1988 25 November 2015 11: 22 New
          0
          Quote: dorz
          In the sky of Syria, the Turks will now turn their heads 180 degrees.

          No, what are you! The proud and formidable janissaries will not poke their heads into Syria now, they will now fly all our planes over a hundred kilometers ...

          Although it is possible that there will be provocations, like they will come closer to ours, in order to force them to jump on them, and then they will shout that they say we are knocking them down, but to me personally, it seems unlikely - they will ruffle and hide under an American skirt ...
    2. sssla
      sssla 25 November 2015 09: 37 New
      10
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Well, as I understand it, our people are afraid of NATO. Otherwise, the calibers would have flown to the Turks for a long time at the airfield with f16.

      Do you know why someone becomes the president of the country and someone on the couch "scribbles" ??? Because at first this person thinks and then speaks and the sofa-shooter is the opposite and does not always include the thought !!!
      1. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 25 November 2015 09: 40 New
        -13
        Quote: sssla
        Because at first this person thinks and then speaks and the sofa-shooter is the opposite and does not always include the thought !!!


        - The problem is that the one who "thinks" is still nonsense, and there is nothing behind his words.
        1. sssla
          sssla 25 November 2015 09: 46 New
          +6
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          - The problem is,

          The problem is that in such moments and in such people rally and someone makes a split !! Their name is radishes
          1. Haettenschweiler
            Haettenschweiler 25 November 2015 09: 49 New
            -3
            Quote: sssla
            The problem is that at such moments and precisely in such moments people rally even if the person doesn't like it and you are a radish


            - I'm ready to unite. But why? To wipe your face from spitting that will still remain unanswered? First, the "thinker" drove these guys to Syria, and now he will not be responsible for them. Everything as usual.
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 25 November 2015 09: 52 New
              +6
              Quote: Haettenschweiler
              Quote: sssla
              The problem is that at such moments and precisely in such moments people rally even if the person doesn't like it and you are a radish


              - I'm ready to unite. But why? To wipe your face from spitting that will still remain unanswered? First, the "thinker" drove these guys to Syria, and now he will not be responsible for them. Everything as usual.


              Congratulations, Sharik .. you dunce .. (Three from Prostokvashino)

              You ought to put Denis's thoughts in order ... why fight if you can get rid of it economically ...
              1. Haettenschweiler
                Haettenschweiler 25 November 2015 10: 18 New
                +2
                Quote: vorobey
                You ought to put Denis's thoughts in order ... why fight if you can get rid of it economically ...


                - Wait, buddy, who was talking about the war? Did I talk about the war? No, I didn't. I am "for" any methods - the economy, the rupture of diplomatic relations, a complete ban on entry to and from Turkey, a complete ban on exports and imports ... anything and everything except war. But, here to her, for some reason I am sure that it will not nothing... Except for the menacingly puffy cheeks. As with Ukraine it was recently.

                Quote: DenZ
                I advise you to exercise your temperament in bed.


                - Sorry, comrade, probably laughed for about five minutes. This is the best answer for cooling a hot head. About "calibers" and, as I have already said, about the war, I did not say anything, as well as about the "symmetrical" response. The only thing that I am afraid of, and of which I am almost completely sure, is that the Turks will not get anything for their crime.
            2. DenZ
              DenZ 25 November 2015 10: 08 New
              0
              I'm ready to unite. But why? To wipe your face from spitting that will still remain unanswered? First, the "thinker" drove these guys to Syria, and now he will not be responsible for them. Everything as usual

              And you want the answer right now - to a flock of calibers to Turkey. Will it calm you down? I advise you to exercise your temperament in bed. The answer will be required, but it is not necessary to make it symmetrical and not necessarily immediately. the Turks were warned by the Ministry of Defense. They arrive in Syria and receive a "Fort" from "Moscow". And they really want to fly in Syria, they have many interests there.
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      2. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 25 November 2015 11: 34 New
        +1
        Not everyone has a friend Boris, who brought his friend by the hand, who now perpetuates Borin's memory and does not touch all those who destroyed the USSR. As they sat since Boriskin's times, they sit still, robbing and stealing, stealing and robbing. it is also necessary on the couch with keyboard.
    3. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 25 November 2015 09: 42 New
      0
      artiodactyl
    4. Yuriy3005
      Yuriy3005 25 November 2015 09: 42 New
      +1
      Are you ready for World War III? Caliber strike on the territory of Turkey is an unambiguous beginning of the war. You need to act by other methods - the most correct - a pair of S-400 divisions and the complete closure of the Syrian sky with a warning to shoot down all aircraft that have not received official permission to fly from Damascus and the Russian Aerospace Forces.
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 25 November 2015 09: 47 New
        +1
        Are they ready for Turkey because of Turkey?
        1. Yuriy3005
          Yuriy3005 25 November 2015 09: 55 New
          +1
          That is, you want to check which eggs are harder? In 1962, it was almost checked with disastrous consequences for all of humanity, the mind was enough to stop, now we will repeat?
    5. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 25 November 2015 09: 53 New
      +2
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Well, as I understand it, our people are afraid of NATO.
      - What are rear-wheel drive afraid of? You need to think first, so if you do it - so on the mind!
    6. oldseaman1957
      oldseaman1957 25 November 2015 09: 53 New
      -1
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Well, as I understand it, our people are afraid of NATO.
      - What are rear-wheel drive afraid of? You need to think first, so if you do it - so on the mind!
      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 25 November 2015 09: 57 New
        0
        And that they are now crying "we agreed with them about the safety of flights, and they deceived us" ..
        1. Yuriy3005
          Yuriy3005 25 November 2015 10: 05 New
          +2
          the intricacies of politics between the superpowers are a slightly different level than the "boy" conversation in the gateway. We have previously signed agreements, from a legal point of view, the fact that we poke their faces into them, we are doing everything right. The fact that they wiped themselves with their own signatures gives us every right to act as we see fit, including with the closure of the Syrian sky and the destruction of everything that could threaten our aircraft. By the way, the interpretation of "everything that can threaten" is very vague ... and this is like a very subtle hint of Turkey and NATO
    7. NEXUS
      NEXUS 25 November 2015 10: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Well, as I understand it, our people are afraid of NATO. Otherwise, the calibers would have flown to the Turks for a long time at the airfield with f16.

      Think at least a little. Now in Turkey there are about 10 thousand of our tourists and a diplomatic mission, with women and children. Turn on your head and think about what will happen to them if Russia now hits? Before you say this, first soberly assess the situation, and then write. First, we need to take all our citizens out of Turkey in order to untie our hands.
      1. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 25 November 2015 10: 21 New
        -1
        Quote: NEXUS
        First, we need to take all our citizens out of Turkey in order to free their hands.


        - What is being done in this direction? Is anything being done, for example, an appeal to Russian tourists to return to their native land? No. There was only Lavrov's sadly vague warning about the "terrorist threat" in Turkey. And that's all. Finita.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 25 November 2015 11: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          - What is being done in this direction? Is anything being done, for example, an appeal to Russian tourists to return to their native land? No. There was only Lavrov's sadly vague warning about the "terrorist threat" in Turkey. And that's all. Finita.

          Do you think that you need to shout about what is being done at every corner so that our tourists are not allowed out of the country at all, holding the situation hostage?
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      1. DIVAN SOLDIER
        DIVAN SOLDIER 25 November 2015 10: 36 New
        -2
        Well, since you are smart, so cry on the neck from Turkey.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 25 November 2015 11: 08 New
          +2
          Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
          Well, since you are smart, so cry on the neck from Turkey.

          It was not a slap on the neck, but a blow in the back. Our pilots did not expect an F-16 attack, although they probably saw it. And what can an old heavy bomber jacket against a fighter? It is clear that bombers must be accompanied by cover fighters and this is a mistake of our command, mk Erdogan said more than once that our planes would be shot down. And it was at that moment that the Aerospace Forces group in Latakia had to be reinforced with a large number of fighters. But until the fried rooster pecked ...
          Now think, if God forbid, instead of the SU-24 there would be a TU-160 or a TU-22, moreover stuffed with Kh-101 missiles ...
    9. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2015 11: 16 New
      0
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      Well, as I understand it, our people are afraid of NATO.

      then your-stsykuny! but Russia is not afraid, just in principle, no one, in general, because Russia is WE.
  4. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 25 November 2015 09: 34 New
    +6
    Enemies around, scum-hypodermic, cowardly traitors. Russia HOLD ON! All NORMAL people are with you!
  5. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 25 November 2015 09: 35 New
    +7
    Slowly lick the genitals of the sick rhino, Mr. Stoltenberg!
    Get used to it, the next organ for you is bearish!
  6. sunzhenets
    sunzhenets 25 November 2015 09: 36 New
    +7
    It’s early. You will call for de-escalation when our airbase, from which the Turkish plane took off, is turned into a crater.
  7. Trailer
    Trailer 25 November 2015 09: 36 New
    +7
    It is necessary to level this region. And there will be calm and de-escalation.
  8. Limon1972
    Limon1972 25 November 2015 09: 38 New
    +2
    Can someone explain why the MiG-31 is not used to control the entire airspace over Syria? And then there are so many comments and I have not seen anything about MIGs.
    1. Yak-3P
      Yak-3P 25 November 2015 09: 40 New
      +2
      few of them .. and the north pole is large
  9. Flinky
    Flinky 25 November 2015 09: 38 New
    +3
    Don't worry, addict. "Moscow" will provide.
  10. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 25 November 2015 09: 38 New
    +5
    some kind of henda hoh ... for a count of Turks ... a couple of Tungusoks and 4 batteries of beeches to give to the Kurds .. say Ukraine-Georgia sold
  11. Kito
    Kito 25 November 2015 09: 38 New
    +3
    Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
    Well, as I understand it, our people are afraid of NATO. Otherwise, the calibers would have flown to the Turks for a long time at the airfield with f16.

    from the article all the other way around, this is afraid of NATO
    "I call for calm and de-escalation," the secretary general said after an emergency meeting of the NATO Council
  12. Warbird # 4
    Warbird # 4 25 November 2015 09: 38 New
    +3
    Stoltenberg decided for the people to play "pity" ... democracy on horseback
  13. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 25 November 2015 09: 39 New
    +5
    All this talk about calmness is about grinding excrements! Erdogan must answer, and then we'll talk about the rest.
  14. hartlend
    hartlend 25 November 2015 09: 40 New
    +1
    Let's finish in Syria, calmly proceed to de-escalate Turkey as a state.
  15. Sergey Sitnikov
    Sergey Sitnikov 25 November 2015 09: 40 New
    +6
    It is necessary to scout, clarify and put under the knife the pilot who launched the rocket, and before dying, under torture, find out the name of the ordering person and also cut ((
  16. Decathlon
    Decathlon 25 November 2015 09: 40 New
    +1
    That is, we do not want to stand up to defend the controlled "members" ?! Right...
  17. starwars
    starwars 25 November 2015 09: 40 New
    +4
    “I call for calm and de-escalation,” said the Secretary General after an emergency meeting of the NATO Council.

    WHAT FUCKED !!
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 25 November 2015 10: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: starwars
      WHAT FUCKED !!

      Nicht schießen, Kameraden, Erdogan Caputh! Ich gebe auf! Nicht schießen, bitte!
    2. Albert1988
      Albert1988 25 November 2015 11: 28 New
      0
      Quote: starwars
      WHAT FUCKED !!

      to the second word in your post there is clearly not enough suffix "-sya", for, given. that there is no belligerent rhetoric from NATO officials, and the European officials somehow "strangely" started talking, that, they say, the fault is mainly on Turkey, then there is no joke there, the Turks put a pig on their allies ...
  18. Terminolol
    Terminolol 25 November 2015 09: 43 New
    +2
    If both pilots are alive, then we will manage with one nuclear bomb.
    But seriously ... thank God if this is true, the life of pilots is more important than a jet of iron, and even more so of all political squabbles!
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 25 November 2015 11: 21 New
      0
      We have already lost one pilot and one Marine.
      1. Terminolol
        Terminolol 25 November 2015 12: 10 New
        0
        Yes, sozh. and one pilot died.
  19. Minstrel
    Minstrel 25 November 2015 09: 43 New
    +4
    For a hike, some NATO members, when they learned about Turkey's actions and thought about the possible consequences, almost defecated. Therefore, they began to call for de-escalation.
  20. Denis DV
    Denis DV 25 November 2015 09: 46 New
    +1
    Seems to me, this is the last NATO Secretary General angry
  21. Snow
    Snow 25 November 2015 09: 47 New
    +2
    Turkey's reaction is completely inadequate. Therefore, it is not clear how to behave: as with a patient in a psychiatric hospital or as with an attacking bandit.
    NATO, too, does not need such pearls. When some nutcase in the leadership of some f ** king Turkey substitutes the entire alliance with his personal aggression.
    1. Albert1988
      Albert1988 25 November 2015 11: 31 New
      0
      Quote: Snow
      When some nutcase in the leadership of some f ** king Turkey substitutes the entire alliance with his personal aggression.

      In fact, NATO has evaded responsibility, in fact leaving this issue to Russia and Turkey ...
      So there is a nasty suspicion that everything is organized by the staff. to bite Russia and hook an Erdogan organ on a hook, otherwise I became too independent ...
  22. maylevka
    maylevka 25 November 2015 09: 49 New
    +6
    We take all the intelligence data on relations between Turkey and ISIS: interception of the negotiations between the Caucasian Erdogan and the leaders of ISIS, satellite images of oil convoys, photographs, documents, invoices, everything that is. We collect everything in a daddy and throw it into all the media that we can reach. We are calling the UN and promoting a resolution recognizing Turkey as an accomplice of terrorists. Brand Perdogan to the maximum on an international scale!
  23. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 25 November 2015 09: 50 New
    +5
    Turkey "failed to provide clear evidence of border violation by Russian aircraft"
    Turkey, heifer. Where he is tied, there he will graze. These are the times. The classic is right.
  24. Zomanus
    Zomanus 25 November 2015 09: 50 New
    +3
    The answer will be.
    And most likely not with the help of weapons in the Turks.
    You can bend the country purely by law.
    What we will soon see, I hope.
  25. barbiturate
    barbiturate 25 November 2015 09: 51 New
    +7
    Well, right, first they shot down the plane and killed the pilot and the Marine, and now we call for calm. It must be an eye for an eye, now let's see what our president is. Personally, I would give the order to retaliate, the Turkish F-16s will approach the border and turn on the radar sights - immediately shoot down everyone, and then make an exhaustive apology, mumble about the mistakes made and the hot hand of the pilot, declare a violation of the Syrian border. Otherwise, they will simply not be respected.
  26. BIA29-80
    BIA29-80 25 November 2015 09: 56 New
    +3
    Quote: Vladimir
    Stoltenberg about the Su-24 incident: “I call for calm and de-escalation”
    Calm you jackals with a couple of hundred "Gauges" with 200 kilotons each. And de-escalation will not keep you waiting.

    From the Caspian ... and let one fall short ... a little bit ...
  27. linen
    linen 25 November 2015 09: 56 New
    +3
    Now you need to BOMB! BOMB AND BOMB !!!! And at least one Turk will fly into the territory of SYRIA and send him to the SHAITANS! In any case, it must be DESTROYED !!!!
  28. Abakan
    Abakan 25 November 2015 09: 57 New
    10
    let me get banned for mate but (nats) they are smelly fagots and cocksuckers
    1. AdekvatNICK
      AdekvatNICK 25 November 2015 10: 03 New
      +4
      I think there is such a case that you will even be promoted for this
  29. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 25 November 2015 09: 57 New
    +2
    Stoltenberg! do you call for calm? to your mother's peace? What are you guys doing there? Do you have many more inadequate Turks in NATO? !!
  30. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 25 November 2015 09: 57 New
    -5
    I would not like to think that the scenario of the downing of our plane was planned by our General Staff, because we received a lot of warnings, but we continued to provoke, and now we practically sent one plane to the border without the ability to defend against other aircraft. A response plan gives leadership the green light for global developments. Time will tell, but I really would not like to believe it. Articles on this topic are already appearing.
    1. AdekvatNICK
      AdekvatNICK 25 November 2015 10: 05 New
      -1
      I agree and think so too. And how do you like the professional filming of a Turkish TV channel at the crash site? there is something in this.
  31. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 25 November 2015 10: 02 New
    +1
    I sit on tea with buns like this, and then outside the window I hear two air alert sirens and across the sea here is Turkey.
  32. Stiletto
    Stiletto 25 November 2015 10: 02 New
    +1
    Yes, Mr. Stoltenberg. I agree with you. The Russians should be calm, and begin to completely drop NATO planes. And then you try to call your pack to calm, let's see what happens.
  33. cap
    cap 25 November 2015 10: 04 New
    +3
    Everything that shoots and needs the Kurds in the hands.
    In the end, we don't care where the Kurdish state will be
    in Turkey or Iraq. Let them hold a referendum. For the beginning it will destroy the buffer of Turkomans.
    I think we have already come to this.
    The Kurds use their chance to gain power in this situation.
    The Americans have already quietly sat down on their tail, again because of oil.
    Money doesn't smell, although all the Syrian turmoil smells of oil more than.
  34. BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 25 November 2015 10: 05 New
    0
    why spread what this stupid person said? NATO has already made a conclusion
    US and Turkish Presidents Barack Obama and Tayyip Erdogan in a telephone conversation said that incidents similar to the crash of the Russian Su-24 were inadmissible, Turkish Anadolu news agency reported, citing a source in the Turkish leader’s administration. Http://vz.ru/news/2015/11/ 25 / 780062.html
    Putin's message in America was heard and understood, according to network information, Turkish planes no longer fly towards the Syrian border, and the Aerospace Forces ironing out the area of ​​our pilot's death
  35. Fearless
    Fearless 25 November 2015 10: 05 New
    0
    This is how the Turks are to blame and the Americans are apologizing for them. The Turks are just jackals, the co-pilot, if he is alive, will say everything and then we'll see how many warning signals were. Turks jackals amers
  36. Mercenary
    Mercenary 25 November 2015 10: 06 New
    +1
    It would be good to speak from the side, to see what he would say if a NATO military plane (for example, China or even Russia) was shot down. That's where the howl was raised? angry
  37. Stariknv
    Stariknv 25 November 2015 10: 07 New
    +1
    Imagine that an American plane was shot down by a friendly country of Russia.
    NATO's response would have followed immediately by bombing that country.
    Russia also needs to answer only to shoot down Turkish planes in Syria so they pose a threat to planes not only for Russian but also for Syrian planes.
  38. BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 25 November 2015 10: 10 New
    0
    Quote: Mercenary
    It would be good to speak from the side, to see what he would say if a NATO military plane (for example, China or even Russia) was shot down. That's where the howl was raised? angry

    shot down already, Turkish, Syrian air defense, so what?
    The Syrian Air Force shot down a Turkish F-4 fighter jet over its territorial waters. Official Damascus admitted this fact tonight, Moscow time.
    http://www.utro.ru/articles/2012/06/23/1054733.shtml
  39. cap
    cap 25 November 2015 10: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Decathlon
    That is, we do not want to stand up to defend the controlled "members" ?! Right...

    In a situation with an aircraft and the death of a pilot, brackets can be ignored. bully
  40. Landwarrior
    Landwarrior 25 November 2015 10: 11 New
    +3
    Yes in vain the NATO members raised the boil. Russia will all the same wipe itself out and forget. What, there have been few examples recently?
  41. maks-101
    maks-101 25 November 2015 10: 12 New
    +1
    Quote: oldseaman1957
    Quote: Vladimir
    Calm you jackals with a couple of hundred "Gauges" with 200 kilotons each.

    - It's called ARMAGEDON. Then let's go to finish off with stakes.

    the best way out for edogan is to ask forgiveness from the RUSSIAN PEOPLE and VVP and shoot himself. It will be right.
  42. BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 25 November 2015 10: 13 New
    0
    Quote: StarikNV
    Imagine that an American plane was shot down by a friendly country of Russia.
    NATO's response would have followed immediately by bombing that country.
    Russia also needs to answer only to shoot down Turkish planes in Syria so they pose a threat to planes not only for Russian but also for Syrian planes.

    where did they bomb Assad?
  43. AlexTires
    AlexTires 25 November 2015 10: 14 New
    +1
    To de-escalation ??? That is, they just shot down the plane like that, and now pretend that nothing happened ??? Let us also knock down three pieces, and only then we will think about de-escalation, OK?
    1. Sergey Sitnikov
      Sergey Sitnikov 25 November 2015 10: 31 New
      0
      Why so obvious? For example, I would put a mine at the exit from the port of Ceyhan, under a tanker ... go prove whose, and the fire will be not only an ecocide but also a hangover for Erdyganchik
  44. ivan bogomolov
    ivan bogomolov 25 November 2015 10: 18 New
    +1
    We are calm, now we know exactly who our enemy number 1 is, ERDOGAD die you bastard ... negative
  45. triglav
    triglav 25 November 2015 10: 35 New
    0
    Turkey "failed to provide clear evidence of border violation by Russian aircraft"


    That's right, because there was no border violation. It is necessary to find out what happened to the second pilot (according to unconfirmed information, the Syrian military rescued him), and then bang all the Syrian Turkmen. It is necessary to apply the scorched earth tactics. And the cruiser "Moskva" "wet" all targets flying into Syria. And the sky over Syria must be closed completely. And fighters were supposed to accompany bombers from the very beginning of the operation.
  46. veteran56
    veteran56 25 November 2015 10: 51 New
    0
    First of all, ours must strike at the Turkomans and be sure to destroy the entire oil scheme, from production to oil supplies to Turkey. Let them feel ACTS OF RETURN!
  47. Nasty
    Nasty 25 November 2015 10: 55 New
    +1
    I watched TV. There, Obama and Ollnand almost jump with happiness on the Su-24. Disgusting, but expected. I hate it.
  48. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 25 November 2015 11: 09 New
    0
    "I call for calm and de-escalation"


    Pot calls the kettle black! The lying idors themselves planned this provocation and how could it be nothing to do with ?!
    1. Stinger
      Stinger 25 November 2015 11: 27 New
      +1
      And everyone is so calm. Some are looking for Russian submarines, others are suddenly worried about flying near their precious borders, others have silently withdrawn from the ABM Treaty and calmly accuse Russia of intending to take away European values ​​and push them on the free market. Who secretly supply weapons to dill and ISIS. Who, in accordance with the Minsk agreements between Washington and Kiev, waters Moscow in violation of them. And everyone is as calm as sphinxes. It remains to impose sanctions for violating Turkish airspace. For complete peace of mind.
  49. Colleague
    Colleague 25 November 2015 11: 51 New
    +1
    Damn, why does he not chew a tie?
  50. Kamarada
    Kamarada 25 November 2015 12: 37 New
    0
    The names of these soldier-heroes must be known and immortalized