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On the Internet there was a video of the shelling of Russian pilots in the process of their descent by parachute

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Information Agency Reuters spread the information that both pilots of the Russian Su-24 bomber shot down by Turkish Air Force planes were killed. Earlier, the Turkish media spread information that one pilot had died, and the second was alive and in the hands of a group of Syrian Turkmen (Turkomans).


A video appeared on the Internet, made by those Syrian Turkmen themselves (Turkomans), in whose region the Russian plane shot down by the Turks fell. From the video it becomes clear that the Russian pilots who had been catapulted were shot by representatives of a terrorist group, which in Turkey itself (and in the West too) are still called “moderate Syrian opposition”.



Information Agency Associated Press, referring to the leader of the group called "10-I Brigade of the Coast", reports that they began shooting at Russian pilots allegedly at the moment when they "understood that the Russians are going to land on the territory controlled by the Assad army." It does not specify how far the nearest positions of the Syrian government army are from the location of the terrorist group of Syrian Turkmen (Turkomans).

One detail that is particularly noteworthy. Official Ankara declares that the Russian aviation they bomb Turkoman, leaving them without food and water. At the same time, the video demonstrates that the group is all right, apparently, not only with food and water, but also with weapons, as well as with smartphones with Internet access ...
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  1. Billikid
    Billikid 24 November 2015 19: 11 New
    +1
    Is GDP swallowing this slap in the face?
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 24 November 2015 19: 14 New
      103
      Well. waiting for information about OUR Pilots, children of the SKY! The fears were confirmed!
      Verily - His Kingdom is HEAVENLY!
      1. Conductor
        Conductor 24 November 2015 19: 21 New
        13
        All the same, these monkeys have no mind. They shoot at a person at such a distance that it is barely visible even with a zoom at an angle up from 5 barrels ... they have a lot of rounds fool
        all hope for the screams of allah akbar, giving +5 to accuracy
        1. GDP
          GDP 24 November 2015 22: 51 New
          15
          Give help to fraternal comrades from the working Kurdish party !!!! am
      2. aktanir
        aktanir 24 November 2015 19: 23 New
        77
        It’s not all clear yet, you still have to try to get from Kalash from such a distance, if you only shot someone on approach. It’s a pity for the guys, but I don’t think that their fate on earth if they fell into the hands of the wounded would be better, probably even worse. Therefore, from the next day you can calmly level everything there to hell with the earth.
        Unfortunately, for Turkey we can hardly answer with anything economically. While the supply of its goods to Russia is estimated at $ 3-4 billion from foodstuffs, the supply of our products is estimated to be much higher - at the level of 9 billion. We sell large quantities of oil and gas to the Turks. Now this good is enough, and it is being sold at a low price and any of the oil-bearing countries will be glad to pick up the Turkish market for themselves, and we still have to try to somehow compensate for these $ 9 billion. I can’t believe that the pragmatic Putin, taking into account the financial and economic difficulties in the country, will go on reducing commodity circulation. In short, of the available funds, only the restriction of tourist flow and the rejection of a new gas line.
        Можно конечно подлянку устроить по примеру с самолетом, который турки сбили, но решатся ли наши на военные меры возмездия или будут благородных джентльменов строить, не знаю? Думается, можно в данном случае и отойти от принципов и грохнуть что-нибудь "случайно".
        1. sssla
          sssla 24 November 2015 19: 50 New
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          Quote: aktanir
          Turkey, we can hardly answer with anything economically.

          Tourists and this is not enough !!!
          1. Yars
            Yars 24 November 2015 19: 56 New
            73
            Quote: sssla
            Quote: aktanir
            Turkey, we can hardly answer with anything economically.

            Tourists and this is not enough !!!

            everyone must draw their own conclusions! The death of Russian hero pilots on the conscience of the Turkish authorities, who are accomplices of terrorists. I urge ALL to stop flying to Turkey to resorts !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            1. pilot8878
              pilot8878 24 November 2015 20: 30 New
              +1
              [media = http: //chelyabinsk.ru/text/newsline/104084195758080.html]
              Sergey Rumyantsev is ALIVE !!!
              Turkish media generally speak of a high degree of probability that the crew is alive.
              1. Dryuya2
                Dryuya2 24 November 2015 20: 47 New
                +2
                Quote: pilot8878
                Sergey Rumyantsev is ALIVE !!!
                Turkish media generally speak of a high degree of probability that the crew is alive.

                However, the last hours of their Chelyabinsk news comes that Sergei Rumyantsev ... is alive! And the dead pilot is a Lipchan.
                http://gorod48.ru/pda/news/353957/
                1. severniy
                  severniy 24 November 2015 21: 22 New
                  0
                  True, no, but I found ---
                  Ankara is working on the release of two pilots of the Russian Su-24 bomber, shot down on November 24 in Syrian airspace. According to Reuters, citing a representative of the Turkish government, the pilots are held captive by fighters of the Syrian opposition.

                  According to CNN Turk, both Russian pilots are alive and in the hands of Syrian opposition. Currently, every effort is being made to release them, according to the channel’s microblog on Twitter.
            2. Murlocotam
              Murlocotam 24 November 2015 21: 12 New
              16
              It is not sad, but today in public places I often heard regrets about the possible closure of the tourist flow to Turkey, and not about the death of a Russian plane ...
            3. The comment was deleted.
          2. yugan
            yugan 24 November 2015 20: 08 New
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            Quote: sssla
            Tourists and this is not enough !!!

            I read somewhere that our tourists brought to the earlings about 20 billion annually. So, even the ban on tourism is already a lot.
            1. severniy
              severniy 24 November 2015 20: 13 New
              48
              Baluevsky said well: Military force had to be used specifically at that momentwhen the attack on the plane took place. Now, military force will need to be used based on the results of events. If they do not return this pilot, if they destroy him, then everything must be mixed. Then - the scorched earth tactics. No mercy!
              и
              I'm worried about something else. We always talked about the fact that our planes that fly there should be under the guise of our fighters. Here where were our fighters at that moment?
              what for setup?
              1. Asadullah
                Asadullah 24 November 2015 20: 51 New
                +4
                where were our fighters at that moment?


                And what, do you propose to attack Turkish fighters in Turkey? If the board is in a free search, how should a fighter behave? Here the question is different, no one expected that after the agreement on the prevention of incidents in the air, Turkey would decide on this. With the same success, they can sink a ship or enter on a civilian side. Options sea. And the fact that the polarization of the parties has accelerated is a plus. And Baluevsky, let grow cucumbers in retirement.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 24 November 2015 20: 54 New
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                  Quote: Asadullah
                  And what, do you propose to attack Turkish fighters in Turkey?

                  Our bomber was shot down OVER THE TERRITORY OF SYRIA and did not violate the air border with Turkey ... What are you talking about?
                  1. TanyaKar
                    TanyaKar 25 November 2015 00: 50 New
                    -5
                    NEXUS (2)! Komrodorov is here to - fi - gee - schA !!!!
                    Smart, abstruse guys write. I read and already it becomes sickening ...
                    The demented are not difficult to determine here.
                    It’s not the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation that write, but some bits ...
                2. aksakal
                  aksakal 24 November 2015 22: 00 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Asadullah
                  Turkey decide on this. With the same success, they can sink a ship or enter on a civilian side. Options sea. And the fact that the polarization of the parties has accelerated is a plus. And Baluevsky, let grow cucumbers in retirement.
                  - F-16 flew into Syria for the sake of hitting Dry. If the accompanying SU-30 wouldn’t have knocked him down at that moment, he would be under the tribunal of the reptile and 10 years to the camp!
                  1. TanyaKar
                    TanyaKar 25 November 2015 00: 54 New
                    -4
                    Asadullah, what are you talking about - Harob Bacha? This is whose site? You got something wrong, Harob Bacha.
                    1. TұrKBөrӨ
                      TұrKBөrӨ 25 November 2015 02: 27 New
                      -4
                      In your opinion this is a Russian-patriot nationalist site, Where everyone on emotions calls for war? When everything is not okay inside the country. You rave stop
                3. TanyaKar
                  TanyaKar 25 November 2015 00: 43 New
                  -4
                  Maybe you should not write like that about Army General Baluevsky? I conclude that you are not from the RF Armed Forces.
                  A very arrogant and categorical statement. Decipher in more detail what the beautiful word gives the polarization of the parties, are you our strategist? If something goes wrong, then what will you (and most importantly - WHERE) grow?
                4. Stelth1985
                  Stelth1985 25 November 2015 04: 53 New
                  +2
                  Only one thing is important now ... if Vova doesn’t give lyuli, then he will show himself weak, therefore all these paskuda will become impudent and will do things even more terrible. What do you think, Turkey will stop there. If Vova does not do anything radical, wait for the sunken ship / submarine or attack somewhere else.

                  For the Honor and Glory of the ancestors!
              2. TanyaKar
                TanyaKar 25 November 2015 00: 30 New
                0
                I agree with you - Northern. If ours (a VERY bad word - Mu .... ki) do not understand that this is a very serious challenge, thrown not only at the address of Russia, BUT and personally at the address of President Putin, and our diplomats and the General Staff, having consulted, will not competently compete ( First, the severance of diplomatic relations, otherwise the Ottomans and Europe will perceive this first of all, as the weakness and indecision of our president, and this will lead to the fact that the reputation and prestige of our GDP in the international arena will be very seriously shaken if Russia does not respond to this time tough.
                I’m not Kassandra, Dear VO commentators, but you hope to remember the predictions (I call it pictures) TanyaKar, if in this case our GDP does not decide on Ankara’s tough answer. This will be the beginning of his political decline and another revolutionary process in Russia. Believe me, it’s pointless to describe now and discuss at the forum the country's economy and its proposed opportunities. ....
                I’ll ask easier: And if tomorrow, my dear Russian Armed Forces, do you hear that we have been declared a war? You’ll also be discussing the budget and figuring out whether Russia has the strength and resources to fight, and isn’t it easier to give up immediately? Some comments are sick to read. Forgive me for a very bad and rude word, but you are Pi ..... what are all smart and Kind of like all patriots, but you don’t see the main essence and background of everything that happens. But it’s good that at least you think, think and write something. It seems like not indifferent pepsikolschiki who come off with taste! I can’t continue, my emotions are overwhelming ... Now MY political correctness has come to an end. I will write in the way that you’ve never dreamed of political watchmen of the RF Armed Forces. Someone must become ethereal Danko. Our and your guys are there - in Syria !!!! The French ask me questions and believe that our president, unlike Hollande, will be able to give a worthy answer to Erdogan. Note to Erdogan, not Turkey.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 25 November 2015 00: 56 New
                  +2
                  Quote: TanyaKar
                  The French ask me questions and believe that our president, unlike Hollande, will be able to give a worthy answer to Erdogan. Note to Erdogan, not Turkey.

                  Вы все верно говорите и я с Вами солидарен.Но "с шашкой на голо"бросаться не стоит.Это не дело одного дня.Ответ безусловно будет и я подозреваю очень жесткий.Но "с кондочка "такие вопросы решать нельзя.Речь то идет о том,что может быть война,и причем не с турками ,а со всем этим натовским сбродом.И надо понимать,что мир сейчас даже ближе стоит к войне,чем при Карибском кризисе.Я полностью разделяю Ваше негодование и сижу пью за наших парней в Сирии.Убежден,с Эрдоганом будут кончать,как и с турецким халифатом,но как и какими методами надо предоставить это нашим политикам,военным,дипломатам и экономистам.Одно совершенно однозначно,что ответ будет по всем направлениям.
                  1. Stelth1985
                    Stelth1985 25 November 2015 04: 57 New
                    +2
                    NOBODY will intervene for the Turks. Do you ... really believe that the Yankers will want to wave from the chuchmeks ??? They are the only thing that will do so is to deliver weapons to the Turks in large quantities and all. In order for the war to continue.
          3. Yeraz
            Yeraz 24 November 2015 20: 42 New
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            Quote: sssla
            Tourists and this is not enough !!!

            Well, it’s insanely small. A total of $ 3.3 billion is a Russian tourist’s income. And Turkey’s budget is almost $ 200 billion. So little bite. And Turkey got less money this year. usually.
            1. Turkir
              Turkir 24 November 2015 21: 58 New
              +6
              Well, this is insanely small. A total of $ 3.3 billion brings income to the Russian tourist.

              Statistics and reality.
              200 billion is distributed both to the army, and to ... etc.
              And 3.3 billion are distributed in real infrastructure to several hundred thousand people from sellers of souvenirs to owners of hotels and restaurants.
              Imagine how many jobs? Can you imagine how many families are behind this?
              After all the events, the influx of tourists not only from the Russian Federation, but also from Germany will decrease.
              But, according to statistics ...
              1. Yeraz
                Yeraz 25 November 2015 14: 51 New
                0
                Quote: Turkir
                Imagine how many jobs? Can you imagine how many families are behind this?
                After all the events, the influx of tourists not only from the Russian Federation, but also from Germany will decrease.

                For Turkey’s 80 millionth, it’s not so much. And if we distinguish ethnically non-Russian tourists from Russia’s tourists who will continue to travel to Turkey, because nobody accepts them there as a Russian, this will have even less effect. Although I am sure that ethnic Russians will continue to go there.
            2. TanyaKar
              TanyaKar 25 November 2015 00: 58 New
              -1
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              Summarize what you want to say. What are you whining about income and budget?
              Our SU-24 was shot down, the lepricon is not good and not very good, and not at all good, i.e. Well, very bad ....
              Для админов сайта: " так корректно?" . - это цензурное слово, почему вы стираете?
              Strange some admins of VO.
              Wretched people.
              1. Stelth1985
                Stelth1985 25 November 2015 05: 01 New
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                Do not speak. I get the impression that the admins themselves are from the fifth column. I got in touch with a few here and I can say with confidence that they are potential underpants.
          4. Hardy
            Hardy 24 November 2015 20: 47 New
            +7
            Quote: sssla
            Quote: aktanir
            Turkey, we can hardly answer with anything economically.

            Tourists and this is not enough !!!

            Not a little? Yes, with exclamation marks)))) And how many bucks do you evaluate the lives of our pilots?))))))
            Come on, show patriotism, hit the enemy, refuse for a year from trips to Turkey)))
            1. Turkir
              Turkir 24 November 2015 22: 01 New
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              show patriotism, hit the enemy, give up trips to Turkey for a year

              I wrote about this for a long time, so I also earned the minuses. A year?
              There is nothing for the Russian people to do in Turkey at all ..
            2. TanyaKar
              TanyaKar 25 November 2015 01: 18 New
              +3
              I look, - there are enough guys from the fifth column ... Does Nadezhdin pee? It’s necessary not to leave a trip to Turkey for a year, but rather ... I don’t understand why Turkey is so impressive to you? There is plenty of sun, warm sea, plenty of drinks and snacks on the territory of the Russian Federation. Gurzuf, Anapa, and now Crimea, more ..... What kind of Exotics are you looking for? In Turkey, every season, our tourists somehow strangely die, and for some reason, local doctors have no time to save them — neither children nor adults. Not weird? Why is Russia not publishing this data? You say politics again?
              It’s a very bad policy (you won’t write a bad word shit on this site).
          5. mihasik
            mihasik 24 November 2015 22: 22 New
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            Quote: sssla
            Quote: aktanir
            Turkey, we can hardly answer with anything economically.

            Tourists and this is not enough !!!

            Not! Only a similar answer! Shoot them to hell without warning!
            By the way, there were some doubts .... Have the Turks shot down? Not long ago there was infa that US fighters were transferred to the Inzherlik base (Turkey). For what? After all, terrorists have no aviation.
            Как говорится, выводы делать вам. Думаю что у турок кишка тонка сбить российский самолет! Но стрелочниками будут турки и поделом, правда когда будем мстить, о "партнерах" надо напомнить нашей власти: а то тут вижу врагов, а тут не вижу!
            1. TanyaKar
              TanyaKar 25 November 2015 01: 27 New
              +2
              Mihasik! Turks must be clamped in full. Let the Kremlin strategists not be afraid to cover Turkey for a long time ....
              This will erase Erdogan, like a pencil eraser ... Ottoman burst into the air, imagines himself a great Suleiman ...
              It will and should be a demonstration of the Russian Federation ... There is no other way, it will not work to remain sovereign and independent ...
              1. Orionvit
                Orionvit 25 November 2015 03: 57 New
                +2
                The Turks lost their fear, and their memory. It is necessary to remind them of the names of Suvorov, Skobelev, Nakhimov, as they had raked the most from the Russians in life (you know what). And if you forgot, then you can recall that they knew the place. But in any case, the case of drying should not go unpunished.
        2. good7
          good7 24 November 2015 20: 04 New
          +4
          It is quite possible to reimburse at the expense of China, Germany and Japan, and these 9 billion are on paper, and paper will endure everything!
        3. pvv113
          pvv113 24 November 2015 20: 06 New
          +3
          Unfortunately, for Turkey, we can’t answer almost anything economically

          Our tourists bring about 3-4 billion dollars to the Turks. This is the first thing that immediately surfaced in my memory hi
        4. TanyaKar
          TanyaKar 24 November 2015 20: 16 New
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          Do not count on how much and for what amounts we trade with the Ottoman Turks. By God, it’s sickening to read it!
          Именно так: - надо грохать " случайно" по коаллиции Эрдогана, в противном случае это далеко не последний случай БОЛЬШОГО плевка в сторону России.
          You can’t kneel in front of the Turks now !!!!!!!!!!!!!
          ONLY severance of diplomatic relations.
          And do not blather the wise men of the VO site about anything else.
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        5. aksakal
          aksakal 24 November 2015 20: 18 New
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          Quote: aktanir
          and we still need to try to somehow compensate these $ 9 billion
          - уже Вас призывают и Яровая, и Лавров, что уровень угрозы терроризма в Турции резко возрос... Намек россияне понимают? Или россиянам надо в лоб, как в Египте говорить, куда не надо "туристить"?
          In general, in the future, I hope that the discipline and unity of the Russians will improve, and they will have enough hints. And now for now, I think, it’s necessary to act in Egyptian ... By force, in short. We cancel all flights to Turkey, take out the remaining tourists by the Ministry of Emergencies. For many Russians don’t care that Turkey kills Russian pilots, they will go to Turkey anyway, in the same place entertaining guides are cool, so helpful ... And they work all night ...
          И не пора ли реально помочь курдам? Землю свою они заслужили. В первую очередь хорошие ЗРК средней и малой дальности типа "Тор", "Тунгуска", "Оса", "Панцирь", ПЗРК "Игла С", Верба", хорошей артиллеррии им пожелать, ПТРК "Корнетов" побольше, появления бронетанковых войск и хоть самой примитивной, но своей боевой авиации в виде учебно-боевых самолетов ЯК и вертолетов МИ-8... Будете смеяться, но этого хватит, что бы курды порвали задницу туркам уже на третье-четвертое столкновение, если даже не с первого столкновения. И визит в Армению с началом пока исторического расследования (а там дальше с переходом во вполне уголовное) геноцида армян.
          Только я думаю, что с первых контактов российских представителей с курдским командованием и озвучиванием России озабоченностью судьбой Оджолана, томящегося в турецкой тюрьме как политзаключенного, турки все очень быстро поймут. Меньше чем лярд долларами неустойки не брать+ компенсации семьям летчиков + громогласнейшие, на весь мир ОФИЦИАЛЬНЫЕ извинения + наказание того турецкого летчика + реальные и результативные действия по прекращению финансирования ИГ на турецко-сирийской границе + ускорение подписания "Южного потока" - и тогда можно будет и простить, точнее, еще рассмотреть эту возможность.
          1. TanyaKar
            TanyaKar 25 November 2015 02: 17 New
            -1
            I greet you Aksakal (3). Thank you for such a comment, in my opinion the most worthy on this site.
            Are you right, if we are now bent over and we will somehow procrastinate diplomatically and somehow, demonstrate to the whole world what kindly we are tolerant and do not want a conflict to be resolved ... Already did this, they already called on everyone to do all kinds of different cooperation, so what? .... Yes, Putin needs to take seriously the idiotic act of the Turks, otherwise Russia and the President, in the eyes of NOT the international community, but first of all a very small circle of people who call themselves the world government, will look like a frightened ferret Hollande. And this is a sentence to all his ratings.
            To us, the president and Shoigu should be accountable for the fate of our pilots.
            Everything is so serious and alarming, and some are all taking care of the economy ... Well, just Delyagins, Katasonovs and Glazyevs
            Do not panic, do not whine, gentlemen, - it seems that the Russian officers in some places ... We will stand, not in the first.
        6. Leks69Rus
          Leks69Rus 24 November 2015 20: 48 New
          +4
          But is there no military option? and I do not mean a direct attack on Turkey. Well, the option is to strengthen the fighter group, say from 4 to 12. You can su-30cm can and upgraded su-27. Su-35, I think it’s risky if you suddenly get knocked down and fall into the hands of the Americans will be bad. All the bombing near the borders with Turkey is now only accompanied by fighters. To perceive any approach of Turkish fighters as a threat and prepare to repulse it if they bring it closer and provoke engaging in battle. Strengthen also air defense. Well, and most importantly, to the delight of the Turks, to continue and intensify the bombardment of these tours (especially if the death of pilots is confirmed). And henceforth, any downed plane of Russia in disputed border zones will be considered aggression against Russia.
          1. TanyaKar
            TanyaKar 25 November 2015 02: 32 New
            -2
            and before that, the bombing took place without fighter escort? Then this is a question to our commander in chief and other commander of our grouping of troops in Syria?
            The operation was started so well, and it was necessary to end it no matter what — not to sing to your memorial, but to the Ottomans. For so many years ... they raised their heads for the first time and dared to strike Russia.

            Когда наши Кремлядские "партнеры" по проживанию в России проснуться или очнуться?
            Otherwise, one day they’ll wake them up very well. No serious answer can be left in any way, otherwise kirdyk to our Russian and presidential - Putinist authorities.
        7. Bob
          Bob 24 November 2015 21: 21 New
          +4
          Quote: aktanir
          Turkey, we can’t answer almost anything economically

          Russia has something to answer Turkey:
          - for Turks, Russia is an important source of blue fuel, for Russia it is the 2nd country after Germany in terms of gas supplies (27,3 billion cubic meters in 2014 out of a total of 146 billion cubic meters exported)
          - Turkey is a major exporter of fruits and vegetables for Russia
          - Россия важный энергетический партнер в сфере атомной энергетики (строится АЭС "Аккую" на южном побережье, дата ввода 2020г.)
          - tourism already mentioned earlier
          - construction business of the Turks in Russia
          - trade in other various directions (textiles, consumer goods, equipment, etc.)
          There is something to lose on both sides, at the moment in Turkey there are 10 thousand Russian tourists. Therefore, it is necessary to draw the right conclusions, and not to make hasty decisions, as if I did not want to embed them right away and in full. Everything has its time.
          1. TanyaKar
            TanyaKar 25 November 2015 02: 43 New
            0
            Bob, it’s clear that speed is only needed when catching fleas and mosquitoes.
            But in this case, these are already overbringed Erdoganovtsy.
            As I understand the Kurds !!!! It's time for them to support and whisper tete- a - tete ......
        8. Zamachus
          Zamachus 24 November 2015 21: 37 New
          +5
          Clamp the entire construction business with which they brought down all prices with their Uzbeks and Tajiks, as well as all the daughters of large companies producing plastic windows for metal structures, etc. They have so many enterprises and objects in Russia
        9. tol100v
          tol100v 24 November 2015 21: 48 New
          +3
          Quote: aktanir
          . Therefore, from the next day you can calmly level everything there to hell with the earth.

          Preferably at a level minus TWO meters! And at the same time do not ask: moderate or not moderate, Turks or Turkmens! All minus TWO!
        10. Rezident007
          Rezident007 24 November 2015 22: 14 New
          0
          REALLY ONE ONE RUSSIAN-TURKISH WAR WILL BE ??? we’ll see how the United States and NATO will intervene for it ... and it’s unlikely that there will be a full-fledged war, and if so, it can go into the third world war ..
          1. Edvagan
            Edvagan 24 November 2015 23: 11 New
            0
            it is interesting to write out all the Russo-Turkish wars for analysis, but rather their results. Something if from memory, we have only one defeat (Prut campaign of Peter 1), and then only Victoria. In vain the Turks do not teach history .....
            1. TanyaKar
              TanyaKar 25 November 2015 02: 57 New
              0
              It is not relevant what they teach or taught. It is important what Russians and Russia will teach them now!

              If Erdogan’s people don’t get an adequate answer now, then Oh, it’s very bad for the honor of our country .....
              1. Ladoga
                Ladoga 25 November 2015 03: 54 New
                0
                I could not stand it, I wrote! TanyaKar, you are one of the few here today who has, don’t be offended, eggs! But from many I read, just snot and drool smeared on the keyboard. Okay, maybe not right away, but the answer SHOULD BE! Necessarily a cold dish! Even a complex lunch, dinner, it does not matter, from cold, spicy dishes! Inevitably!
          2. TanyaKar
            TanyaKar 25 November 2015 02: 50 New
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            Yes, it can go if we silently wipe ourselves .... You don’t answer, it means you can be beaten ...
            Erdoganovtsy ahu ..... You can’t let the Ottomans down, otherwise it will be worse ....
            These creatures of the earth pulled up ...
            Defiantly abandoned, Resident 007.
            What do you suggest, James Bond Agent 007?
        11. Vyacheslav 64
          Vyacheslav 64 25 November 2015 00: 06 New
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          Unfortunately, for Turkey we can hardly answer with anything economically.
          Stop building a nuclear power plant (20 billion), stop tourism (4 billion), stop importing food, import textiles and leather, drive their builders out of us, stop their construction projects in Crimea. Few? Let's think about it.
        12. Svidetel 45
          Svidetel 45 25 November 2015 19: 44 New
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          You can’t measure everything only with money, you must respond adequately to such a treacherous meanness, whatever it costs us money, otherwise they will think that we can do any muck and then solve all problems for ourselves for money. Not even every prostitute for money allows you to do anything with her.
      3. Sterlya
        Sterlya 24 November 2015 19: 24 New
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        Quote: Baikonur
        Well. waiting for information about OUR Pilots, children of the SKY! The fears were confirmed!
        Verily - His Kingdom is HEAVENLY!

        The Kingdom of Heaven! How sorry for the guys. And let Hell swallow the whole USA with the Turks and the gay men
        1. Andrey NM
          Andrey NM 24 November 2015 19: 41 New
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          Families of pilots should be provided for everyone ... Anyway, the children of military personnel who died in the performance of military duty should be accepted for study with positive exams (or what is there now, the USE?) To any educational institution of the country on a budget out of competition with the appropriate scholarship. I think that the parents who gave their lives for a just cause deserve this for their children. I’m not even talking about housing and pensions ....
          1. TanyaKar
            TanyaKar 25 November 2015 03: 08 New
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            This provision must somehow be consolidated and legalized ... Yes, at least to make the constitution ...
        2. TanyaKar
          TanyaKar 25 November 2015 03: 06 New
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          Are you sure that the guys died? You think pulling time for the message?
          Wake up, President! Erdoganovites brazenly knock your pilots fighting terrorists, and we will (sorry) chew snot. and think how to persuade them not to be with us Byaky-Hardened ... It’s disgusting all this very ....
          And if the guys died, then eternal glory to them on Earth and in Heaven to them the Kingdom of Heaven .... Yes, and serious awards are due to them. Hope, it's hard, like !!!! ....,
      4. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 19: 26 New
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        Have you ever shot in the mountains or just at high flying targets, I mean, not ducks, from a machine gun? Without special training and aiming devices, it’s just shooting into the void. So bury early. If he died, then only one when hit by a rocket, the second of both catapulted. Well, write where you got information about the death of both pilots.
        1. Karayakupovo
          Karayakupovo 24 November 2015 20: 31 New
          +3
          Now the most important thing- And who shot down? well from there and all the conclusions. And for us, it’s easy not to relax in Turkey (at the Government level, a decree). Let's look at the results, who is closer to the Turks.
          Türkic-speaking RUSSIAN.
        2. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 24 November 2015 20: 59 New
          +2
          Quote: Алексей_К
          So bury early. If he died, then only one when hit by a rocket, the second of both catapulted

          ONLY DO NOT PURPOSE
          one surely died
          I can’t post the video - only links
          18 ++++
          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVJ7Q097gXM
          I don’t know in the second video, the same pilot or another
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jw5Lu0Adp6g
          and on this supposedly a helicopter is knocked out
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDNjIKFRieQ
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 24 November 2015 21: 01 New
            +3
            Quote: Dryuya2
            and on this supposedly a helicopter is knocked out

            MO confirmed the shelling of the helicopter, and the death of the Marine.
        3. Old
          Old 24 November 2015 21: 19 New
          +2
          my comrade solitary eagle flunked out of Kalash. What is that clever?
      5. ayyildiz
        ayyildiz 24 November 2015 19: 40 New
        +4
        In the Turkish press, information appeared that both pilots were alive! And the dead pilot from the helicopter was!
      6. GSH-18
        GSH-18 24 November 2015 19: 55 New
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        Самое главное сейчас, чтоб наши лётчики как можно скорее были возвращены на базу Хмеймим! А после мы с этими "друзьями" разберёмся.
      7. TanyaKar
        TanyaKar 24 November 2015 20: 05 New
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        This is a serious spit in the direction of Russia and the president. The State Duma of the Russian Federation is right - only a break in diplomatic relations can save the honor of Russia. And all economic sanctions and other politico-diplomatic rubbish are no longer relevant in the current situation. Army General Baluyev is right in asking why our military did not answer adequately?
        This is an arch-serious challenge to Russia.
        You cannot stand on ceremony with the Ottomans and negotiate diplomatically ... Their word is worthless.
        What is Erdogan so fussed about? After all, it was not we who shot down their military plane, a cat. flew to bomb ISIS positions?
        Infinitely sorry for our pilots. They need to be saved, and if they died by any means, return their bodies to their homeland.
        If there is no break in diplomatic relations with Turkey now, the authority of Russia in the world community, as well as the rating of our president, cried (bitterly). In this case, I personally do not understand either the president or the Minister of Defense Shoigu and other comrades in the government. All my friends and comrades agree with me. I listened to the French today ... They are very outraged by these actions of the Turks and expect that Russia will seriously respond to this challenge. Otherwise, they will continue to kick us further ... The glory, valor and high professionalism of our armed forces are in no doubt ... Now the decision of the president and the government is very important. This is not a serious response of the Great Power to cover flights to travel agencies. It’s so small and weak to answer Russia for scolding the honor and valor of its military pilots .... There is a great mistrust in the government and the president ....
        1. Sober
          Sober 24 November 2015 20: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: TanyaKar
          There is a great mistrust of the government and the president ....

          Everyone desires that a great war begin, that they just don’t do it or provoke it! They press on emotions!
          May God grant a sober mind, the wisdom of patience, and when you need decisiveness (in the absence of which our president cannot be reproached), the commander in chief and President RF To Putin.
          1. TanyaKar
            TanyaKar 25 November 2015 03: 28 New
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            Listen, Sober no one wants war! Want to hear. and see a decent response from the country .... Do not distort.
            All from God ask for intelligence and wisdom for the commander in chief and president ....
            Вот время и покажет какая и в чем будет проявлена решительность нашего ВВП. Лишь бы он не смотрел на все глазами некоторвх кремлядских " партнеров"...
        2. Armax
          Armax 24 November 2015 21: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: TanyaKar
          There is a great mistrust of the government and the president ....


          Madame Tanya, with all due respect, do not blame the president in advance.
          Его заявление по ТВ было достаточно жестким и конкретным,включая заявление о последствиях:"...Инцидент будет иметь серьезное влияние на российско-турецкие отношения..."
          Or do you think that he should go into hysteria cursing everyone and everyone with foam at his mouth?
          No need to escalate: it's all gone! Leaked!
          I am sure the answer will be unexpected (as always) and adequate in the square.
          Our children the Kingdom of Heaven. Eternal memory.
          PSIn the news, the MO officially announced the death of our marine during the rescue operation, there is no confirmed information about the pilots, maybe they are alive.
          1. TanyaKar
            TanyaKar 25 November 2015 03: 51 New
            -1
            Monsieur ArMax, I don’t try to blame anyone in advance and I don’t set such goals ....

            It’s not serious to write that someone wants to see the president as mad with foam at the mouth, etc ...
            Everything disappeared and leaked to me does not sound. I read the opinions of experts, in particular Army General Baluyev.
            It seems that understanding comes that this tragedy could have been avoided if there had been escort of our fighter.
            I have every right to emotions .... After all, Madame.ee So, my friend, do not educate me and do not read morality.
            And the Ottomans will understand only the answer in a cube, not a square, this is the specificity of their Ottoman harr. I'm worried about the pilots no less than you. Maybe someone survived, God forbid! .....
            1. Armax
              Armax 25 November 2015 09: 57 New
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              Quote: TanyaKar
              I have every right to emotions .... After all, Madame.ee So, my friend, do not educate me and do not read morality.

              In no case do I dispute your right to emotions, much less try to educate.
              Just my opinion, emotions are not the best adviser in such cases.
              Quote: TanyaKar
              And the Ottomans will understand only the answer in a cube, not a square, this is the specificity of their Ottoman harr

              As for the Ottoman specifics in Russia, it has been known for a long time. It is necessary in a cube, it will be in a cube.
              Quote: TanyaKar
              I'm worried about the pilots

              There was infa about the rescue of one of the Su-24 pilots by the Syrian special forces, if so, I will rejoice with you.
              We bow to the Syrian special forces, they write that 2 hours they were withdrawn from the rear of the enemy.
              But MO has not yet been officially confirmed.
              Sincerely.
        3. Drshan
          Drshan 24 November 2015 21: 37 New
          +3
          No need to rush. Revenge must be cold. GDP knows this truth.
        4. Stelth1985
          Stelth1985 25 November 2015 05: 22 New
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          А вы что думаете, что наша власть за народ стоит??? Они бадаются с Западом ТОЛЬКО потому что не хотят наворованное добро с ними делить, ведь претензии то в этом. Следовательно, так как власть сидит на территории России, а амерам именно она и нужна, наша "власть" не хочет свое отдавать. Не надо думать, что власть стоит за народ. Это ошибочное мнение.

          Never let it go. The war will be. What is the difference when? The question is only strategic, since more time won will allow you to better prepare for it. But if you don’t answer, we will be considered weak and then the ships will begin to sink, passenger planes to go astray and so on. The Russians will be openly captured and openly will be painfully killed! For me, I would give the order to destroy the entire frontier air defense with the airfields at the Turks and say - Vyakat another, get a vigorous greetings from the north!

          For the Honor and Glory of the ancestors!
      8. Duke
        Duke 24 November 2015 20: 20 New
        +3
        Vladimir Putin held talks with King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, Abdullah II bin Al-Hussein, who is in Russia on a working visit. Among other things, the head of state commented on the incident with a Russian Su-24, shot down today by the Turkish Air Force.
        Statement by Vladimir Putin on the crash of the Russian Su-24 in Syria. RIA News
        This event goes beyond the usual fight against terrorism.
        Of course, our military are waging a heroic fight against terror, not sparing themselves, not sparing their lives. But today's loss is connected with the blow that terrorism accomplices delivered to us in the back. In another way, I can not qualify what happened today.

        Very sorry for the pilots.
        1. Bob
          Bob 24 November 2015 23: 36 New
          0
          Quote: Duke
          Vladimir Putin held talks with King of the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan, Abdullah II bin Al-Hussein, who is on a working visit to Russia.

          Putin correctly said everything in this message to Turkey and the entire world community, calling Turkey an accomplice of terrorists, and also pointing to aftermath act of aggression.
          However, here I want to note the fact that the talks were conducted by V.V. with no one else, but with the representative of Jordan - a state that, like Turkey, served in the Syrian conflict (living) as a base for training militants. I remember that it was in Jordan that the Americans founded training centers 4 years ago, equipping them with everything they needed, including American instructors. Need to answer the question. How is Jordan different from Turkey in the conflict in Syria ?!
      9. Trailer
        Trailer 24 November 2015 20: 37 New
        +3
        Kingdom of heaven to the peasants. Kurdistan to be.
        1. Asadullah
          Asadullah 24 November 2015 20: 55 New
          +7
          Kurdistan to be.


          The key idea. They want to fight? Without a bazaar, with Kurds. Trained and armed. Which accounts for more than five hundred years accumulated.
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        1. Pajamas
          Pajamas 24 November 2015 21: 12 New
          -3
          Quote: NEXUS
          Quote: Baikonur
          Well. waiting for information about OUR Pilots, children of the SKY! The fears were confirmed!
          Verily - His Kingdom is HEAVENLY!

          WHERE WERE OUR COVERAGE FIGHTERS WHICH ARE OBLIGED TO COVER THE SU-24?! All this is Russian maybe.

          That you scream like a cap in the bazaar, you might think about the number of SS30 and SS 24, 25, 34, about the number of flights, about the escort tactics and its quantitative component, and then start your eulogies. There is a war. Who needs to understand without you.
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 24 November 2015 21: 21 New
            +8
            Quote: Pajama
            What do you scream like a cap in the bazaar, maybe you’ll think about the number of SU30 and SU 24, 25, 34, about the number of flights, about the escort tactics and its quantitative component, and then start your eulogies

            Don’t get smart, dear. Nobody squeals here, but makes accents. As regards tactics, this is the ABC bomber should be accompanied by a fighter (s) of cover. There is no need to build a smart one here. Considering the statements of the (repeated) Turks that our planes will be shot down, what else was the reason for escorting our bombers by fighters?
            1. ancient
              ancient 24 November 2015 22: 40 New
              +2
              Quote: NEXUS
              Do not be smart, dear


              Андрей,не спорь с "упоротыми"..это бесполезно. Вон Яровая сейчас битых 2 часа у Соловьёва "объясняла"...что главное это.."политически донести на..мировом уровне"??? belay
              1. NEXUS
                NEXUS 24 November 2015 22: 46 New
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                Quote: ancient
                Андрей,не спорь с "упоротыми"..это бесполезно. Вон Яровая сейчас битых 2 часа у Соловьёва "объясняла"...что главное это.."политически донести на..мировом уровне"???

                Ugh, Sashulya ... sorry for our boys. I looked at how they were being shot from the ground ... you know, friend.
            2. KnightRider
              KnightRider 24 November 2015 23: 15 New
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              Shoot down in Syria? With all the agreements reached on the prevention and prevention of incidents and the communication channel between the ministries of defense of Russia and Turkey? You can think of anything about the Turkish government, but yesterday I think none of us could even imagine that such a situation would happen, let's honestly ... I did not imagine ... It’s a pity for the pilots, a pity for the dead marine, they are real Defenders and Warriors. ..
          2. ancient
            ancient 24 November 2015 22: 39 New
            +3
            Quote: Pajama
            maybe you’ll think about the number of SS30 and SS 24, 25, 34, about the number of sorties, about the escort tactics and its quantitative component, and then start your panegyrics


            А может быть Вы подумаете о том, что..кто же это там "думает",что на все ударные самолёты выделил всего(!!!) звено Су-30СМ belay
            Is it not the one who commanded the VO during the attack of the Tu-22M3 strike group ... without any cover?
            Even 4 Su-30SM aircraft will be enough to cover the air border from Turkey ... I hope you know the time of the Su-30SM barrage?
            Who prevents the exercise of alternate duty in the air?

            Это не война..Это пока был АВИАДАРТС,только вот на чужой территории. А вот сейчас вдруг по-чему-то оказалось, что это ВОЙНА,а не.."маневры"..к сожалению soldier
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 24 November 2015 22: 57 New
              +8
              Quote: ancient
              Это не война..Это пока был АВИАДАРТС,только вот на чужой территории. А вот сейчас вдруг по-чему-то оказалось, что это ВОЙНА,а не.."маневры"..к сожалению

              Hello, my friend!
              It's a shame for the Boys that the plane was shot, as in a dash, and then themselves ...
              И сразу вспомнилось "Живые и Мёртвые",как летели ТБ и их просто,ненапряжно сбивали...
              Where is the cover, where is the search and rescue operation, where is our special forces, which should already send BOSH of spirits to Qatar from the Moscow main post office ??? !!!
              Or is it all only in the zombodroscope?
              Remember Gardez-Host, so there were flyers pulled out the whole connection of SA and specialists, respectively.
              И самое главное ,я уже по словесам прокремлёвских политологов чую будет "обеспокоенность", "озабоченность", потом ещё какие-нить кривляния и в результате : "Она утонула"....
              1. ancient
                ancient 24 November 2015 23: 17 New
                +2
                Quote: Stroporez
                И самое главное ,я уже по словесам прокремлёвских политологов чую будет "обеспокоенность", "озабоченность", потом ещё какие-нить кривляния и в результате : "Она утонула"....


                Всё как пишешь,так и есть...особенно бесят "уря-статьи" об "успехах" КРЭТ и ..."новых комплексах БКО"...ну и..ХДЕ?
                Подошёл и.."расстрелял" как в тире recourse
                Throughout the show and ... a bit ... practically nothing changes, unfortunately recourse

                Чё-то не слышно "особо-упоротых" про то,как су-24 с "хибинами" целого Кука с Иджисом..."заглушил".... No.
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 24 November 2015 23: 26 New
                  +3
                  Quote: ancient

                  Всё как пишешь,так и есть...особенно бесят "уря-статьи" об "успехах" КРЭТ и ..."новых комплексах БКО"...ну и..ХДЕ?
                  Подошёл и.."расстрелял" как в тире

                  Саша,а Сатановский полностью прав!..."ХОРОШО ПРОЖАРЕНАЯ КОРОЧКА"...
            2. Pajamas
              Pajamas 25 November 2015 03: 25 New
              -3
              Quote: ancient
              Quote: Pajama
              maybe you’ll think about the number of SS30 and SS 24, 25, 34, about the number of sorties, about the escort tactics and its quantitative component, and then start your panegyrics


              А может быть Вы подумаете о том, что..кто же это там "думает",что на все ударные самолёты выделил всего(!!!) звено Су-30СМ belay
              Is it not the one who commanded the VO during the attack of the Tu-22M3 strike group ... without any cover?
              Even 4 Su-30SM aircraft will be enough to cover the air border from Turkey ... I hope you know the time of the Su-30SM barrage?
              Who prevents the exercise of alternate duty in the air?

              Это не война..Это пока был АВИАДАРТС,только вот на чужой территории. А вот сейчас вдруг по-чему-то оказалось, что это ВОЙНА,а не.."маневры"..к сожалению soldier

              Количество боевых вылетов, надеюсь вы потрудились ознакомится, сколько CУ-30 есть столько и есть, прикрыть всех не получится. Как по Вашему наличие сопровождения повлияет на возможность турецких F-16 c турецкой территории осуществить атаку на СУ-24, как это и случилось. Чего блажить то капсом, вы можете конечно считать меня "упоротым", но посмотрите немного со стороны, Вам это "зраду перемоги " не напоминает, показательно когда один
              'картонный генерал' другому отвечает - "ГДЕ БЫЛИ НАШИ ИСТРЕБИТЕЛИ ПРИКРЫТИЯ,КОТОРЫЕ ОБЯЗАНЫ БЫЛИ ПРИКРЫВАТЬ СУ-24?!Все это русское авось."
              It’s clear that we’ll turn on the cap meter and four SU-30s will cope with the strongest army in the region. Do you have doubts that this was planned? Then all 6 F-16s would be raised.
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      11. Valiich
        Valiich 24 November 2015 21: 14 New
        0
        Yes, in truth now heaven is their home. Land they rest in peace.
      12. Pajamas
        Pajamas 24 November 2015 21: 15 New
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        Quote: Baikonur
        Well. waiting for information about OUR Pilots, children of the SKY! The fears were confirmed!
        Verily - His Kingdom is HEAVENLY!

        иди лучше уроки делай, и уж определись, ждете информацию, опасаетесь или "божить начинаете"
      13. Mikado
        Mikado 24 November 2015 21: 24 New
        +1
        Quote: Baikonur
        Well. waiting for information about OUR Pilots, children of the SKY! The fears were confirmed!
        Verily - His Kingdom is HEAVENLY!

        If only one of our living pulled out! or bought for any money! Bastards. Everyone took off their masks, it’s finally clear who is who. Moderate, bl .., opposition, and their advocates ..
        Удар в спину. подло.. Думаю, им ответ еще придумают, такой, что обосрутся всей своей ой Турцией. Путин уже сказал сопровождать истребителями и "Москву" подогнать.
      14. RUS96
        RUS96 24 November 2015 21: 30 New
        15
        .......................................
      15. antipendos
        antipendos 24 November 2015 22: 24 New
        0
        Yes, this video is already a year old, what a kingdom God forbid!
    2. KBR109
      KBR109 24 November 2015 19: 16 New
      12
      Swallow. There will again be an inflation of the cheeks - as with Ukraine. Restrictions to Russian tourists. Seven protests and diplomatic demarches. Perhaps that's all.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 24 November 2015 19: 18 New
        +8
        as with Ukraine.

        Ukraine is already groaning, but only its stoned rulers do not notice this.
      2. Lord of the Sith
        Lord of the Sith 24 November 2015 19: 19 New
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        Quote: KBR109
        Swallow. There will again be an inflation of the cheeks - as with Ukraine. Restrictions to Russian tourists. Seven protests and diplomatic demarches. Perhaps that's all.

        That is, the latest technology that I see every day on the streets of Donetsk is cheating? Thanks to Russia for such an inflation. soldier
        1. Loner_53
          Loner_53 24 November 2015 19: 48 New
          20
          Quote: Lord of the Sith
          Quote: KBR109
          Swallow. There will again be an inflation of the cheeks - as with Ukraine. Restrictions to Russian tourists. Seven protests and diplomatic demarches. Perhaps that's all.

          That is, the latest technology that I see every day on the streets of Donetsk is cheating? Thanks to Russia for such an inflation. soldier

          It is gratifying however, it is gratifying! And God bless you! And I bow deeply from me, and through you to the whole of Donbass hi
        2. Novor_Donetsk
          Novor_Donetsk 24 November 2015 20: 39 New
          +3
          Пардон, тоже в Донецке, новейшей не встречал, Вы еще скажите по улицам "Арматы" ездят))
          1. Lord of the Sith
            Lord of the Sith 24 November 2015 23: 22 New
            +2
            Quote: Novor_Donetsk
            Пардон, тоже в Донецке, новейшей не встречал, Вы еще скажите по улицам "Арматы" ездят))

            Что вы не встречали Уралы новенькие? Или не встречали командно штабные машины? Или камазы новенькие или машины РЭБ? А автоматы новые вы видели, а разгрузки от которых пластиком воняет, на солдатах. Всякие машины повышенной проходимости типо "Водник", танки Т-72Б3М. БТР-82а и так дадлее...
            1. Novor_Donetsk
              Novor_Donetsk 25 November 2015 23: 31 New
              0
              Urals, Kamazs no more. Unloading our soldiers themselves buy, as much more. Our tanks are generally not the first freshness, they are found even without dynamic protection. BTR-82a just did not meet. And the rest of the models you designated are not in the arsenal of the DPR army. So the maximum was random passage somewhere and only under your window)))

              And yes, for justice, I note. Perhaps the technical equipment is slightly better than the APU, but without fiction. RF we are grateful soldier
        3. Znayka
          Znayka 24 November 2015 21: 24 New
          +2
          Vladyka, t-sss .., there isn’t any new technology on the streets of Donetsk, what’s where from ???)))))) RF has nothing to do with it))) It appears on its own, here is such a paradox ..))) )))))))
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        2. UralMan
          UralMan 24 November 2015 19: 45 New
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          [media = http: // http: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = cGDaTE1S0EQ]
      4. katalonec2014
        katalonec2014 24 November 2015 19: 27 New
        13
        His task is to save Russia from war. I myself am angry, but I understand with my soul that we declare war on Turkey, the United States will join, the APU will immediately take advantage of the moment and go to Donbass, and then ISIS.
        1. just exp
          just exp 24 November 2015 19: 33 New
          +1
          be sure to bang, the whole world is in dust.

          so that we can deliver both the igil and the states and the rest of the woodpeckers.
        2. aksakal
          aksakal 24 November 2015 20: 26 New
          +9
          Quote: katalonec2014
          His task is to save Russia from war. I myself am angry, but I understand with my soul that we declare war on Turkey, the United States will join, the APU will immediately take advantage of the moment and go to Donbass, and then ISIS.
          - и что вы так прямолинейно? Я выше запостил, есть курды, есть армяне со своим геноцидом, есть куча способов насолить Турции. Пешмерга воюет так, что подкинь этой Пешмерге хороших ЗРК малой и средней дальности типа Панцирь, Тор, Тунгуска, ПЗРК последних моделей, Тульских "Корнетов", хороших пушек и немного бронетехники - и они порвут всю турецкую армию на мелкие лоскуты, о чем давно мечтают. Если Россия всерьез возьмется за курдов, туркам не завидую - они гарантированно теряют часть своей территории. И все из-за одного бомбардировщика! wassat They urgently need Putin with apologies and nishtyaks, before it’s too late ... Shoal urgently smooth over ...
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          2. Botanologist
            Botanologist 24 November 2015 20: 32 New
            +2
            To supply the Kurds with air defense systems serious and heavy weapons - and this will be far more dangerous than any of our threats.
            1. aksakal
              aksakal 24 November 2015 21: 58 New
              0
              Quote: Botanologist
              To supply the Kurds with air defense systems serious and heavy weapons - and this will be far more dangerous than any of our threats.
              - I have already seen a Tweet from Peshmerga - they posted it in clumsy English that they promise on condition of delivery of an air defense system (for some reason, the abbreviation MONPADS, what kind of air defense system does it mean?) I guarantee the NO FLY ZONE device over Turkey, I believe Peshmerge, I think there can be several complexes and zadarit
        3. 3axap82
          3axap82 24 November 2015 21: 09 New
          +3
          Do you offer to give up? And nah .. then the army, military budgets, nuclear weapons? Is this all for the domestic consumer? Terrible happened, but it happened. Need to respond. At least a continuation of the operation.
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      6. Rom14
        Rom14 24 November 2015 19: 35 New
        13
        the Americans would have already gouged half of Turkey ... When our OURSUs insist that there’s no need to bend to anyone, playing excuses-excuses will be worse.
    3. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
      48
      Quote: Billikid
      Is GDP swallowing this slap in the face?

      Yes, you are already sick! Stop whining!
      1. Lone wolf
        Lone wolf 24 November 2015 20: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: Oleg147741
        Quote: Billikid
        Is GDP swallowing this slap in the face?

        Yes, you are already sick! Stop whining!
        The GDP will do everything it can ,,, and all that it will do everything for the good of Russia .. Even if it is wrong, we will not condemn ... only the one who does NOTHING is not mistaken, such as ,,,, his highest alcoholic majesty Tsar Boris .. he was not mistaken at all, since he didn’t do anything ....
      2. Ribwort
        Ribwort 24 November 2015 20: 14 New
        +6
        Quote: Oleg147741
        Yes, you are already sick! Stop whining!

        We do not whine. We crave blood! angry
      3. Leks69Rus
        Leks69Rus 24 November 2015 20: 56 New
        +4
        But who whines, the embargo on tourism is really small, there must be real steps, and even if not economic, if we are not profitable to undermine the economy ourselves, then we should not provoke it ourselves. But there must be a military answer, it is necessary to make sure that no one else has the desire to bring down our plane. And any case of the downing of our aircraft will continue to be considered aggression against Russia. Well, you need to defiantly bomb the border with Turkey on the verge of a foul so that they squeak even harder.
      4. H_l_o_p_e_C
        H_l_o_p_e_C 24 November 2015 21: 02 New
        0
        GDP is not, completely agree enough whine
    4. GYGOLA
      GYGOLA 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
      12
      I think a sudden powerful tsunami directed in the Black Sea, after the departure of our tourists, may help the situation ..
      1. GSH-18
        GSH-18 24 November 2015 20: 02 New
        +4
        Quote: GYGOLA
        I think a sudden powerful tsunami directed in the Black Sea, after the departure of our tourists, may help the situation ..

        Which way? By magic? Nuclear weapons at the bottom of the Black Sea is tantamount to blowing it up in Moscow! fool Think what you write.
      2. Hon
        Hon 24 November 2015 20: 52 New
        +1
        Goodbye Crimea and Krasnodar Territory
        Quote: GYGOLA
        I think a sudden powerful tsunami directed in the Black Sea, after the departure of our tourists, may help the situation ..
      3. Weyland
        Weyland 25 November 2015 02: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: GYGOLA
        sudden powerful tsunami directed in the black sea


        It is the tsunami in the Black Sea that Bulgaria, Romania, Ukraine, in some places Crimea and Krasnodar Territory, Abkhazia and Georgia can suffer - but Turkey, sadly, no! See a map of the depths of the Black Sea - only tsunamis offshore developing!
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    5. Zabvo
      Zabvo 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
      20
      This is already, as in the disassembly of the boys (one spat in the other face and then either the battle to death or life on the floor until the end of life).
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 24 November 2015 19: 41 New
        13
        The Russian Defense Ministry in a note to the Turkish military attache has already called THIS an unfriendly act. Strongly as said !!! belay
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      1. APASUS
        APASUS 24 November 2015 19: 22 New
        +5
        Quote: Explorer
        All the same, these monkeys have no mind. They shoot at a person at such a distance that it is barely visible even with a zoom at an angle up from 5 barrels ... they have a lot of rounds fool

        In this video you can only confidently assert that the pilots ejected. To fall from such a distance from the machine ................ yes never. But the photo of the killed pilot says more about the fact that they were shot point blank.
    7. just exp
      just exp 24 November 2015 19: 19 New
      26
      they won’t definitely declare war, it was in the course and the goal was to draw Russia into the war, but economically and by other methods they will precisely answer, I think about the working party of Kurds new weapons will appear.
      Yes, and I think that bombing the territory of these Turkmen people will be even more intense.
      as an option, they will shoot down the Turks who crossed the border of Syria.
      1. Karayakupovo
        Karayakupovo 24 November 2015 19: 34 New
        10
        Друзья наших врагов-наши друзья. А курды были и есть Наши друзья. А турки? Воевали с ними, а что бы "друзья"- не припомню. Хоть я и"тюркоязычный", но я РОССИЯНИН. За Державу обидно. Лучше всего отменить все турпоездки туда, а там пусть к ним "натовцы" едут из прибалтики и америки.
      2. Serg koma
        Serg koma 24 November 2015 19: 53 New
        -7
        Quote: just explo
        as an option will bring down the Turks who crossed the border of Syria

        Не получится - Турция на стороне США в коалиции "против" ИГИЛ, опять же член НАТО. овская коалиция взаимодействует с нашей в Сирии(в вопросах безопасности полётов над Сирией), так что летать над Сирией турки могут в относительной(теперь) безопасности. Если собьём - ВОЙНА по всей видимости будет неизбежна...
        1. just exp
          just exp 24 November 2015 20: 21 New
          +2
          and it’s going to ... everything NATO, the states will not go to a direct conflict with Russia, because no one has canceled the Strategic Missile Forces, they blame on bad and aggressive Russia and will close.
          if you have teeth, you need to show them.
          Putin’s most likely scenario is to show everyone that the aggressors are the western world and take the west from the inside, it’s the goal, and even a squadron can sacrifice for it.
          in general, time will tell.
          1. Zabvo
            Zabvo 24 November 2015 20: 34 New
            +2
            "ради него могут и пожертвовать даже эскадрильей" дяденька, вы не сильно жизнями Русских людей раскидались, а? Причём безвозмездно.
    8. Million
      Million 24 November 2015 19: 20 New
      -6
      Unfortunately, I swallowed. Otherwise, the Turks would have already suffered losses. Of course there would have been a scandal, but Russia's authority in the world has grown
    9. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 19: 21 New
      24
      Quote: Billikid
      Is GDP swallowing this slap in the face?

      Putin has already told King Jodania that Russian-Turkish relations have suffered serious damage and that Russia will not tolerate this blow in the back. We ordinary people can only wait for Russia to develop and deliver an inadequate blow to Turkey.
      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 24 November 2015 19: 27 New
        10
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Putin has already told King Jodania that Russian-Turkish relations have suffered serious damage and that Russia will not tolerate this blow in the back. We ordinary people can only wait for Russia to develop and deliver an inadequate blow to Turkey.

        revenge badly fast or too late, revenge requires endurance
        1. Alexander_
          Alexander_ 24 November 2015 21: 20 New
          +1
          Not wait long.
      2. GYGOLA
        GYGOLA 24 November 2015 19: 28 New
        10
        Похоже НАТО слабину увидел.Неудивительно с политикой "не приемлемо,не допустимо" Прощупывают почву вокруг.Лётчики-Герои.Вечная Память.
      3. bannik
        bannik 24 November 2015 20: 05 New
        +1
        Inadequate - it’s Miller’s dismissal, and an adequate strike must be struck!
    10. Finches
      Finches 24 November 2015 19: 24 New
      36
      Carpet bombing of the places of residence of these cf. Turkmens - there should be no other options!
      1. Karayakupovo
        Karayakupovo 24 November 2015 19: 36 New
        +7
        Лучше всего отмена турпоездок туда. Ох взвоют, "надеюсь они"
        1. sssla
          sssla 24 November 2015 19: 53 New
          +5
          Quote: Karayakupovo
          Лучше всего отмена турпоездок туда. Ох взвоют, "надеюсь они"

          True patriots from this day not a foot !!
      2. Sterlya
        Sterlya 24 November 2015 19: 41 New
        +7
        Quote: Finches
        Carpet bombing of the places of residence of these cf. Turkmens - there should be no other options!

        I support. So probably it will be. These nedoturkmens rake hope
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 25 November 2015 00: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: Sterlya
          I support. So probably it will be. These nedoturkmens rake hope

          Однажды к нам в часть поступили туркмены. Я отдаю приказ молодому туркмену, а он с усмешкой мне говорит: " Моя твоя не понимай". Этот разговор слышал рядом стоящий сержант (старослужащий). И мне пришлось согласиться с неуставными методами воспитания. Нет, избиения не было. Просто туркмены - тоже люди и силу воспринимают, как реальный факт. Надеюсь и в этом случае - огребут по полной.
    11. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 24 November 2015 19: 27 New
      13
      Quote: Billikid
      Is GDP swallowing this slap in the face?


      This is not a slap in the face, but a real kick in the face with a dirty boot.
      1. Proud.
        Proud. 24 November 2015 19: 45 New
        +8
        Quote: Max_Bauder
        This is not a slap in the face, but a real kick in the face with a dirty boot.

        No, this is exactly a stab in the back.
    12. Maksus
      Maksus 24 November 2015 19: 29 New
      +5
      Just like that, and then we’ll build a pipe for them and give a discount. All according to the script. The Egyptian authorities missed the attack, but our Mistrals will receive it, and we will throw them turntables too. They wiped themselves off with steamboats, and rub ourselves here.
    13. olegst
      olegst 24 November 2015 19: 30 New
      +2
      ... without a doubt, swallow, digest and be freed in the outhouse, as was the case with other terrorists ...
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 24 November 2015 19: 38 New
        +6
        Quote: olegst
        as was the case with other terrorists ...

        What kind of terrorists was it like that, smartass?
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    15. SOLGA
      SOLGA 24 November 2015 19: 35 New
      +3
      turn this area into a lifeless desert (except civilians, children and women)
      1. your1970
        your1970 24 November 2015 22: 09 New
        0
        "Превратить в безжизненую пустыню эту область ( кроме мирных , детей и женщин )"-
        technology do not sell? I think any army in the world will buy, and immediately, and all in large bulk .... fool
        ZY Such things are carried out only by infantry, but this is already real the war in which we have been dragged for a long time ....
    16. Aleksiy
      Aleksiy 24 November 2015 19: 45 New
      0
      Of course not - he will express concern.
    17. arnulla
      arnulla 24 November 2015 19: 49 New
      +1
      Swallows, as more than once swallowed ...
    18. Mercenary
      Mercenary 24 November 2015 19: 50 New
      +1
      He will not swallow, Have you already swallowed?
      1. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 24 November 2015 20: 01 New
        +7
        each of us can respond by boycotting the Turks, their goods. I hope the defense ministry will support the Kurds with the latest weapons.
      2. arnulla
        arnulla 24 November 2015 20: 29 New
        -4
        Don't like my post? Dry out
    19. Sailor
      Sailor 24 November 2015 19: 51 New
      +2
      I think after a while he will slap in the open!
    20. lonovila
      lonovila 24 November 2015 19: 56 New
      +1
      -Да , уже проглотил.... -Такой жалкий лепет от нашего президента...во время обсуждения этого преступления... -А потом какие-то "пояснения" от какого-то главкома наших военных лётчиков... -Что мол , кто же это мог ожидать , что наш СУ-24 могут вдруг атаковать... -Как такое вообще можно говорить..?
      -Это что же ... -получается , что турецкие лётчики такие "крутые" , что могут запросто вот так и безнаказанно уничтожать наших лётчиков... -А что же наши..? -Такие беззащитные..? -И не подготовленные и не обученные для подобных военных неожиданностей... -Тогда надо снимать погоны с этого главкома...
      -Вообще поражает тот факт , что Россия имеет и "Калибры" и прочие современные средства вооружения .., а Турции всё равно на всё это наплевать..? -Весь набранный Россией международный авторитет просто вдруг лопнул ...как мыльный пузырь.... -А на Востоке никогда не поверят в могущество государства.., которому вот так просто и безнаказанно можно щёлкнуть по носу ... -Теперь и Иран , и Иордания могут тоже не очень-то придерживаться российских интересов и выдвигать свои требования... -Они конечно же , посочувтсвовали.., но уважать уже не станут... -таков Восток... -Да и оружие России опять попало под сомнения "покупателей"... -такое ли уж оно надёжное и эффективное , раз его так легко уничтожить... -И , наоборот ... рейтинг F-16 , "TOW" и прочих американовских вооружений взлетит вверх... -Да и престиж Турции тоже возрастёт... -так просто , не боясь России уничтожить её бомбардировщик... -Это всё равно , что Венесуэла , Панама или Куба взяли бы да уничтожили военный американский или британский самолёт...
      -But, it seems that Russia is going to rebuke Turkey only in words ...
      - Like, aren’t you ashamed of how bad you are and so on ... -It seems that Turkey will forgive everything like that ... Russia has forgiven ... debts to Ukraine ... -but what will become of Russia's prestige ..? - Because Erdogan just wiped his feet on Russia ...
    21. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 24 November 2015 19: 59 New
      +7
      video reconstruction shot down

      vilely crept behind

      ours may have seen but did not expect

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    24. PM78
      PM78 24 November 2015 22: 36 New
      +1
      Definitely. Any doubts? Thief, coward and behaves like a mouse
    25. Vyacheslav 64
      Vyacheslav 64 25 November 2015 00: 00 New
      +2
      To wipe out all these villages from the face of the earth, so that there wouldn’t be any stone left ... For 5 generations to remember !!!
  2. Hubun
    Hubun 24 November 2015 19: 12 New
    35
    Urrrody. And the pilots have eternal memory. Shoot it in the sky for fear of you men
    1. Karayakupovo
      Karayakupovo 24 November 2015 19: 44 New
      10
      Если с нашими что-то плохое сделают, то деревню отработать "Солнцепёком" с выкладкой в интернете и с привязкой к тому, что за обиду к нашим "обратка" будет стократно. Как у иезуитов- "Цель оправдывает средства".
    2. starded
      starded 24 November 2015 19: 53 New
      +5
      Revenge !!!
      Ударить "Калибрами" по турецким военным базам или другим стратегическим объектам!!! Пусть потом гадают откуда "оно" им прилетело... Предварительно зачистить с корпусов ракет все опознавательные знаки. Это один из вариантов возмездия, а их великое множество. Хотя зачинщики в Америкосии...

      Eternal memory of the fallen Russian wars !!!
      1. Botanologist
        Botanologist 24 November 2015 20: 28 New
        +5
        Yeah, with gauges at a military base, an atomic bomb on Ankara, then on NATO (and horseradish, one unit), then the USA.
        You calm down your emotions, otherwise we’ll talk about cutting heads and other crap.
        Revenge must be cold and long. Until they spit it out.
      2. Botanologist
        Botanologist 24 November 2015 20: 28 New
        0
        Yeah, with gauges at a military base, an atomic bomb on Ankara, then on NATO (and horseradish, one unit), then the USA.
        You calm down your emotions, otherwise we’ll talk about cutting heads and other crap.
        Revenge must be cold and long. Until they spit it out.
        1. Zabvo
          Zabvo 24 November 2015 21: 02 New
          +3
          A botanist for revenge agrees with you ... But here there is a challenge to a fight. You can’t just can’t brake it.
  3. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 24 November 2015 19: 12 New
    25
    And after that, the animals think they will be captured?
    And more, more bombs on these morons!
    1. nablydatel
      nablydatel 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
      21
      these are not animals but cropped cattle angry destroy soldier
  4. aleksejpill
    aleksejpill 24 November 2015 19: 13 New
    +5
    I think not, something will happen.
  5. IAlex
    IAlex 24 November 2015 19: 13 New
    32
    Lucky the pilots whom the Turkish terrorists were already waiting for, it’s better to die like a real warrior in battle than to be captured in shame where American sadists will cut off their heads on the air ...
    1. just exp
      just exp 24 November 2015 19: 20 New
      +5
      it was already believed that one pilot was likely to shoot himself so as not to be captured.
    2. Zabvo
      Zabvo 24 November 2015 19: 22 New
      13
      I agree, there is no greater honor than the honor of perishing in battle. These war of Allah has a mother and they don’t even have it (as they torment our pilot in the video). The man died in battle, as befits, and they poke him, etc. I’m not quite Russian, I’ll say it is so low for me .....
    3. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa 24 November 2015 19: 26 New
      19
      Quote: IAlex
      Lucky the pilots who were already waiting for Turkish terrorists,
      Pilots could land and even shoot a couple of dushmans if they changed Makar to Stechkin, as in 1968. Then you can think about the last pool. And so - even the attempts were not to capture, the cattle shot at the defenseless, like the Nazis, as in a shooting gallery ...
      DEATH TO SPIRITS! EVERYONE whom they would like to exchange for our pilots! am
    4. Victorio
      Victorio 24 November 2015 22: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: IAlex
      Lucky the pilots whom the Turkish terrorists were already waiting for, it’s better to die like a real warrior in battle than to be captured in shame where American sadists will cut off their heads on the air ...

      ====
      they would be lucky if timely assistance came in the form of attack helicopters and evacuation services
      1. IAlex
        IAlex 25 November 2015 00: 15 New
        0
        They would have been unlucky if they had been taken alive, and relatives, mostly their children, on central television saw them slaughtered for the last time as cowardly rams, and at least the memory will remain as if people were doing their duty to the end. T.ch. everything else - they were lucky, the rest is a question of how ...
  6. roskot
    roskot 24 November 2015 19: 13 New
    22
    Only destroy these jackals with all available methods.
    1. alekc75
      alekc75 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
      12
      THESE CREATURES NEED TO BURN
      1. sa-zz
        sa-zz 24 November 2015 19: 21 New
        14
        And wrap in pork skins!
  7. Same lech
    Same lech 24 November 2015 19: 13 New
    43
    Official Ankara claims that Russian aircraft bombard Turkoman, leaving them without food and water. At the same time, the video demonstrates that the group has everything in order, apparently, not only with food and water, but also with weapons, as well as smartphones with Internet access ...

    The Turks can safely be charged with aiding terrorists ... and for this reason they can be crushed at all international venues.

    The facts are there ... the speed with which the video was posted on the Internet is especially striking ... there is a coordinated action.

    Erdogan you are a scoundrel and a bastard.
  8. Zabvo
    Zabvo 24 November 2015 19: 13 New
    14
    Ska, tears are welling up.
  9. Aleksandr1959
    Aleksandr1959 24 November 2015 19: 14 New
    26
    Former Chief of General Staff Yuri Baluyevsky expressed the following in an interview:
    I propose to be guided by the right of Article 51 of the UN Charter - the right to self-defense. Was the Russian plane destroyed? It was. Now, by and large, the right to self-defense should be realized. This is the right to use weapons against those who, in fact, encroached on the sovereignty of Russia, on specific Russian citizens, on our pilots. Here, diplomacy must proceed ... not to war, but to real affairs.

    God forbid what will happen to our second pilot! Now the main thing is to carry out appropriate operations to rescue him from captivity.

    Military force had to be used specifically at the moment when the attack on the plane took place. Now, military force will need to be used based on the results of events. If they do not return this pilot, if they destroy him, then everything must be mixed. Then - the scorched earth tactics. No mercy!

    http://vz.ru/politics/2015/11/24/779960.html
    1. arnulla
      arnulla 24 November 2015 20: 31 New
      +2
      Just a pity, no one will obey Baluevsky in this case
  10. EvaFerrari
    EvaFerrari 24 November 2015 19: 14 New
    24
    This should not remain unanswered, otherwise the whole point of the work of our VKS in Syria is simply lost
    1. I doubt it
      I doubt it 24 November 2015 20: 27 New
      +9
      And that was the plan, too. And not a stupid idea!
      Представьте что будет если не последует никакого реального ответа (а вероятность, что не последует очень большая). Все эти красивые картинки по телевидению, все эти победные реляции "говорящих голов" министерства обороны о блестящей работе ВКС, все примененные новинки - все сразу меркнет. Все теряет имевшийся еще вчера антураж. Все наши действия в Сирии становятся просто смехотворными. Становятся просто потугами. Победа преображается в поражение. Все низводится до нуля. Одним движением.
      This is the moment of truth.
      It was naive to believe that the West would confine itself to statements and comments of our operation. They work. They raised rates.
      Well, Mr. Putin, your word.
      Only now before you is NATO. And the cards with the distribution are not very ...
  11. Petrof
    Petrof 24 November 2015 19: 14 New
    32
    all this must be presented at an emergency meeting of the UN Security Council and insist on the recognition of Turkey as an accomplice of terrorists
  12. SibSlavRus
    SibSlavRus 24 November 2015 19: 14 New
    30
    It is a matter of honor for the Russian VKS to change this landscape to a desert with all its contents.
    1. Junior, I
      Junior, I 24 November 2015 19: 25 New
      +8
      I agree completely.
      Flatten and crush like a roller.
    2. the villain
      the villain 24 November 2015 23: 31 New
      +1
      Quote: SibSlavRus
      change this landscape to deserted with all its contents.

      Change this terrain to LUNAR. am
  13. win
    win 24 November 2015 19: 14 New
    14
    Opposition: immoderate, moderate, semi-pregnant - all terrorists.

    They all need to wet. And not only in the outhouse - by area!
  14. pilot8878
    pilot8878 24 November 2015 19: 15 New
    47
    Сейчас у Киселёва в программе прозвучал классный вариант ответа на действия турков и туркоманов: "превращение всей территории в хрошо прожаренный пирог с корочкой", тотальное уничтожение ВСЕГО движения в любую сторону от границы с Турцией, чтобы НИ СТАКАНА нефти туркам, НИ ОДНОГО патрона ДАИШ. Ну и от нас, жителей России - ПОЛНОЕ прекращение туризма в Турцию.
    1. NordUral
      NordUral 24 November 2015 19: 29 New
      +9
      Just so that the cockroach does not creep across the Turkish border. And bring down everything that flies across the border of Syria with Turkey.
    2. ancient
      ancient 24 November 2015 22: 49 New
      +4
      Quote: pilot8878
      Сейчас у Киселёва в программе прозвучал классный вариант ответа на действия турков и туркоманов: "превращение всей территории в хрошо прожаренный пирог с корочкой", тотальное уничтожение ВСЕГО движения в любую сторону от границы с Турцией, чтобы НИ СТАКАНА нефти туркам, НИ ОДНОГО патрона ДАИШ.


      Евгений Янович Сатановский....."озабоченности" не высказывает,а говорит всегда по ДЕЛУ! soldier
      А Багдасаров,что "плох был"?..Как он Яровую .."умыл" со голосованием "Ведра" за строительство "братьям-мусульманом" АЭС,да ещё и за свои 20 лярдов зелени...та аж бедная..."взбледнула"..опять Соловьёв.."спасал" wassat
      1. pilot8878
        pilot8878 24 November 2015 22: 53 New
        +1
        Quote: ancient
        .опять Соловьёв.."спасал"

        Yeah, I'd rather be silent, she would be completely crushed.
  15. Kradi
    Kradi 24 November 2015 19: 15 New
    +6
    eternal memory ... MO is silent, but it looks like real frames (((
  16. RONIN-HS
    RONIN-HS 24 November 2015 19: 16 New
    20
    Now there is work for the special forces ... It is necessary to punish. am
    1. 1Andrei
      1Andrei 24 November 2015 19: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: RONIN-HS
      Now there is work for the special forces ... It is necessary to punish. am

      Whom? Erdogan? I understand your sorrow and irritation. Believe me, it’s not worth it. Then a grandmother. For me ..... all of them together. S.U.K.I.
  17. Mussasi
    Mussasi 24 November 2015 19: 16 New
    18
    I always considered Turks pi ..., when I was not there and would not go for free. And in general, all business with them to stop, and to pull the pipe there was a mistake!
  18. Wedmak
    Wedmak 24 November 2015 19: 16 New
    +8
    А так же уже есть видео поражения якобы нашего вертолета из группы спасения. Атака была выполнена при помощи ПТРК "TOW", по приземлившемуся вертолету МИ-8. Правда это видео должно быть подтверждено. Наши шли парой(если то они), Ми-24 и Ми-8.

    So ... there are more and more facts that this is a planned action.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 24 November 2015 19: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Wedmak
      And also there is already a video of the alleged defeat of our helicopter from the rescue group.

      Hi Denis. hi Give a link.
      1. Wedmak
        Wedmak 24 November 2015 19: 57 New
        +1
        Hey.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zo9juj2YSlA
        Naturally, I do not guarantee authenticity. Can generally editing which of the old frames.
      2. Hello
        Hello 24 November 2015 20: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Hi Denis. Give a link.

        On YouTube, I just saw
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BGyBKrTmAts
        but it’s not clear whose helicopter request
        1. Wedmak
          Wedmak 24 November 2015 20: 08 New
          +1
          but it’s not clear whose helicopter

          That's why doubts gnaw at me. From this angle, you can see that it is just from the Mi-8 family.
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 24 November 2015 20: 05 New
        +4
        I found it myself. Most likely the frames are real, before installing the ATGM ATU a column of smoke is visible on the horizon.
        I repeat - to give time for the exit of the civilian population, after that to bomb all along the Turkish border with carpet bombing.
        1. Hello
          Hello 24 November 2015 20: 07 New
          +2
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          I found it myself. Most likely the frames are real, before installing the ATGM ATU a column of smoke is visible on the horizon.
          I repeat - to give time for the exit of the civilian population, after that to bomb all along the Turkish border with carpet bombing.

          I meant that maybe the Syrian pinwheel and not Russian request
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 24 November 2015 20: 58 New
            +3
            Quote: Hello
            I meant that maybe the Syrian pinwheel and not Russian

            Ours, MO has already confirmed. They also confirmed the death of a contract marine.
            1. Hello
              Hello 24 November 2015 21: 12 New
              0
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Ours, MO has already confirmed. They also confirmed the death of a contract marine.

              Yes thanks just looked
              But the Defense Ministry claims that the marine died from the rifle, and the broads launched a missile on a standing helicopter without a crew
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0lOLZFeiFU
              1. sabakina
                sabakina 24 November 2015 21: 37 New
                +3
                Yes BL-10 !!!!! ours in AFGHAN were PROHIBITED NOT TO TAKE SITUATION-to hang-up !!! What are you? Have you forgotten the lessons of afghan? ... am
                1. ICT
                  ICT 24 November 2015 22: 19 New
                  0
                  our engines in Avgan only did not jam, and sat down and hovered during the delivery of goods and the evacuation of the wounded
        2. 3officer
          3officer 24 November 2015 21: 16 New
          +2
          Burn the whole area cold-bloodedly, methodically, professionally. If you need carpet, vacuum, any non-humane ammunition - YES, YES and YES again! Shut this joyful screech off-screen!
  19. 27091965
    27091965 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
    +5
    What you want to write unfortunately is prohibited by the rules. Everlasting memory.
  20. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
    +4
    I read where the fact that even the Nazis didn’t shoot the pilots descending by parachutes (I mean not the landing but the downed pilots)
    1. Baloo
      Baloo 24 November 2015 19: 40 New
      +6
      The Nazis shot, you have the wrong information. Our tried to take alive, it is.
  21. Fat
    Fat 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
    +4
    stsuki. TORNODO there and change the landscape along the border with the charter. the Kurds to throw air defense means.
  22. basmach
    basmach 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
    10
    For good, it’s necessary to raise this entire combined regiment and, in place of these Turkoman, leave a piece of land scorched to the ground, so that others would not shoot. The Air Force will be able to do this, but here are the commands for this -....?
  23. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
    19
    No guys ...
    whatever you want, but at such moments you don’t have to rant about any coalitions and other things.
    And clearly and unequivocally say - the arctic fox came to you, Turkish partners.
    As part of protecting our people, we will now send you the prosecutor’s office and TFR - accompanied by special forces and Caliber.

    .
    How sickening.
    1. Maksus
      Maksus 24 November 2015 19: 27 New
      +3
      Why do you have a Turk on an avatar and a Turkish nickname?
    2. your1970
      your1970 24 November 2015 22: 15 New
      0
      By the way, yes, change the profile
      1. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk 25 November 2015 09: 00 New
        0
        I'm changing, you're right.
  24. combat66
    combat66 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
    +1
    These akbar still poorly understand that a scribe is already coming to them ...
  25. Delph
    Delph 24 November 2015 19: 18 New
    +5
    Звери ебанн.е!!!!За каждый "алакбар" по бомбе!!!!Думаю,у оставшихся в Сирии лётчиков появился новый любимый маршрут куда они будут частенько сейчас заглядывать как в урочное,так и во внеурочное время как доп.полёт на энтузиазме,которого изрядно много появилось глядя на эти кадры.
  26. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 November 2015 19: 18 New
    +3
    Well, therefore, there will be no more Turkoman. All those who do not have time to escape to Turkey will be destroyed, and those who manage to escape, well, be careful there. I got hit by a tram, choked with a cheburek, the Kurds shot a little ... Until the last person. And the pilot that launched the rocket, and the one who gave the order, and above, to the very ...
  27. Advesta
    Advesta 24 November 2015 19: 18 New
    +2
    Burn out all terrorist groups in napalm on this territory.
  28. Katukov
    Katukov 24 November 2015 19: 19 New
    +4
    Точно животные. Политики не подведите!!!!!! А кто знает почему самолёт был один? Думаю если было прикрытие эти псы зассали бы атаковать т.к. "мгновенная карма" и по зубам гниды огребут.
  29. Patriot C
    Patriot C 24 November 2015 19: 19 New
    -3
    Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
    And after that, the animals think they will be captured?
    And more, more bombs on these morons!

    propose to destroy the bombs of Turkoman villages?
    there are tens of thousands of children, women, old people. why do you want to kill them? sad
    1. North
      North 24 November 2015 19: 30 New
      +6
      for two co-religionists. for the Orthodox.
      1 children will grow up.
      2 women snipers and suicide bombers, and use other weapons well.
    2. rafaelich
      rafaelich 24 November 2015 19: 40 New
      0
      Why did you get the idiot that they would kill civilians? ..
    3. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 24 November 2015 19: 45 New
      +1
      Let's go in there - get a second Afghan.
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    5. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 24 November 2015 19: 56 New
      +3
      Quote: PatriotC
      propose to destroy the bombs of Turkoman villages?

      Before that, giving time to leave them. 3 days. After declare a ten-kilometer zone along the border with Turkey dead ground, i.e. Destroy ANY targets in this territory.
    6. NeRTT
      NeRTT 24 November 2015 20: 54 New
      +4
      Quote: PatriotC
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      And after that, the animals think they will be captured?
      And more, more bombs on these morons!

      propose to destroy the bombs of Turkoman villages?
      there are tens of thousands of children, women, old people. why do you want to kill them? sad

      - Sadly, they are brought up there in their own DAISH traditions !! So it makes no sense to be humane to those who are glad to kill Orthodox and ordinary people !!! DEATH !!! DEATH !! DEATH !! am
  30. 1976AG
    1976AG 24 November 2015 19: 19 New
    +6
    This can not be forgiven !!!
  31. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 24 November 2015 19: 20 New
    +3
    Will this lead to the deployment of ground forces?
  32. kosmos84
    kosmos84 24 November 2015 19: 21 New
    +4
    ODN 7000 SHOULD ALREADY sparkle on that spot in the YouTube video
  33. Million
    Million 24 November 2015 19: 21 New
    +4
    Here is Akbar. Papuans have a small vocabulary
    1. Quager
      Quager 24 November 2015 19: 30 New
      +2
      Shout ATMAK, or do not shoot or shoot in Russian
  34. Anisim1977
    Anisim1977 24 November 2015 19: 22 New
    +6
    Eternal memory to our pilots.
    And the Iblis will now become even more powerful to bomb - now for pilots it is also personal.
    And it is better for the Turks not to meddle in the Syrian sky, ours may be ordered to be forgotten, because these are not just pilots - but someone's friends from those who rule in the sky of Syria.
    More creatures will see - SKY SLAVAN!
  35. North
    North 24 November 2015 19: 22 New
    +1
    to withdraw all Russians from Turkey in 24 hours.
    Well, there you can demolish Istanbul as the uselessness of this locality. and most importantly, so that without war. it will be enough so that the pair of boots on the panel stole randomly.
  36. Patriot C
    Patriot C 24 November 2015 19: 23 New
    +2
    Quote: basmach
    For good, it’s necessary to raise this entire combined regiment and, in place of these Turkoman, leave a piece of land scorched to the ground, so that others would not shoot. The Air Force will be able to do this, but here are the commands for this -....?

    On this territory there are tens of villages with tens of thousands of civilians.
    Thus, you propose to do as the SS did in Belarus in 1942-44, i.e. punish civilians for the actions of partisans. angry
    1. 1976AG
      1976AG 24 November 2015 19: 34 New
      10
      Ответ должен быть симметричным. Как вариант Асад обращается к России с просьбой защитить сирийскую армию от налетов НАТОвской авиации(неважно были или нет,скажем,что были). А мы конечно согласимся. Юридически законно. И тут "вдруг" турецкий самолет попадается... А мы его 15 раз попросили покинуть территорию Сирии...
  37. AlexTires
    AlexTires 24 November 2015 19: 23 New
    +2
    Eternal memory to the guys!
  38. andrew-z
    andrew-z 24 November 2015 19: 23 New
    -15
    The history of the issue, which for some reason no one pays attention to:
    "19 ноября Турция предупредила Россию, что у нее есть право на ответные действия на российские операции против гражданских сирийских туркоманов, а также право на все необходимые меры по охране своей границы. Источники сообщили, что вместе с послом в тот день "на ковер" вызывали и российского военного атташе. Им, по данным Hürriyet, заявили, что ВКС России проводят операцию на территории, где нет "Исламского государства" или боевиков других террористических группировок, и от ударов авиации страдают мирные турки, к чему Анкара не может относиться с безразличием."
    Those. warning that would not fly there - it was.
    1. teron
      teron 24 November 2015 19: 27 New
      +8
      It looks like they were preparing for a provocation in advance.
    2. Natoiscoming
      Natoiscoming 24 November 2015 19: 28 New
      -2
      I absolutely agree with you. Regrettably, in a few words, it may not be possible to reach our idiots.
      1. Proud.
        Proud. 24 November 2015 19: 48 New
        0
        Quote: NatoIScoming
        to our uryakalok

        Pereklinil, but how !? There is no other word in the lexicon?
    3. Junior, I
      Junior, I 24 November 2015 19: 30 New
      12
      Turks defend cheap oil that comes to them through Turkoman.
      Here is the answer! And Americans tell them what and when to do.
      It is not clear why our SU-34 along the border did not fly after them.
      Indeed, princinden was already like that.
    4. Mercenary
      Mercenary 24 November 2015 20: 07 New
      +3
      Можно было бы согласиться, но это территория Сирии. Это даже ни как Крым для вас. А другое государство. Разница существенная, и "мирные туркистанцы с автоматами по горам не шастают".
    5. jPilot
      jPilot 24 November 2015 20: 16 New
      +5
      С каких это пор соседнее государство имеет право сбивать чужие самолёты над территорией ей не подконтрольной. Тем более ВС официально приглашённые правительством страны. А вот шкурный вопрос покупки дешёвой нефти это да. И за это они должны ответить. Думаю адекватное действие наше должно быть следующее: патрулирование границы с Турцией нашими истребителями перехватчиками и постановка на боевое дежурство средств ПВО. А в "ответку" озадачить разведку, выявлять и уничтожать все пути поставки нефти в Турцию.
      Close all tourist routes working for Turkey.
      And the answer should be as harsh as possible.
    6. Victorio
      Victorio 24 November 2015 23: 27 New
      0
      Quote: andrew-z
      The history of the issue, which for some reason no one pays attention to:
      "19 ноября Турция предупредила Россию, что у нее есть право на ответные действия на российские операции против гражданских сирийских туркоманов, а также право на все необходимые меры по охране своей границы. Источники сообщили, что вместе с послом в тот день "на ковер" вызывали и российского военного атташе. Им, по данным Hürriyet, заявили, что ВКС России проводят операцию на территории, где нет "Исламского государства" или боевиков других террористических группировок, и от ударов авиации страдают мирные турки, к чему Анкара не может относиться с безразличием."
      Those. warning that would not fly there - it was.

      ===
      ?! "предупреждение, чтобы там не летали" - вот так, прямо, и предупреждали?
    7. Gavril
      Gavril 25 November 2015 04: 07 New
      +1
      Well, of course, very peaceful civilians shot at our pilots
  39. Natoiscoming
    Natoiscoming 24 November 2015 19: 24 New
    -51
    They warned not to fly over the territory of Turkey more than once, which state will tolerate constant mockery of their ban? A stab in the back you call the defense of your borders ???
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 24 November 2015 19: 54 New
      10
      No tantrums. What can you say if the Americans confirm that our plane did not violate the Turkish border? Will you calm down Or will you flip over and be indignant too? Although people like you will always blame Russia for everything ..
      P.S. clear our flag from avatar .. look disgusting
    2. Proud.
      Proud. 24 November 2015 19: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: NatoIScoming
      Warned not to fly over the territory of Turkey more than once,

      Были ли они,"полёты над территорией Турции"?Полагаю,что нет.Были лживые заявления о полётах,для подготовки,"общественного......,мнения".
      Quote: NatoIScoming
      which state will tolerate constant mockery of their prohibition?

      Mocking, it is worth calling the star’s ranks of Ankara, and the destruction of our aircraft by those who are a type of partner, and a MEMBER of a coalition that is fighting type of terrary.
      Quote: NatoIScoming
      A stab in the back you call the defense of your borders ???

      Да.Да!!!Тукоманы развели шайтанов у своих границ,да и у себя тоже,а теперь кричат о "защите границ".Лжецы подлые.А вы, NatoIScoming,оба полушария подключите.Своего мозга.
    3. Kuzyakin15
      Kuzyakin15 24 November 2015 20: 05 New
      +6
      Quote: NatoIScoming
      They warned not to fly over the territory of Turkey more than once, which state will tolerate constant mockery of their ban? A stab in the back you call the defense of your borders ???

      Firstly, at the border ...
      secondly, the Turks themselves repeatedly violated the border and bombed the Kurds in Syria
    4. Starik72
      Starik72 24 November 2015 23: 57 New
      +1
      You Yurok think carefully first, and then verbiage!
  40. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 24 November 2015 19: 24 New
    11
    UN where are you? Why did the Turks bring down an airplane over the territory of another state. UN rename yourself. Well, NATO helpers or something. The Turks will answer for this. And the UN is a bunch .......
    1. NC1982
      NC1982 24 November 2015 19: 51 New
      +3
      The UN has long been IT, a worthless creature of a secondary kind.
  41. ovod84
    ovod84 24 November 2015 19: 24 New
    +3
    you need to make a lunar landscape in the territory where terrorists of different stripes live
  42. magirus401
    magirus401 24 November 2015 19: 24 New
    +7
    It’s a pity for the guys, it’s not worth hoping for our kings with obese brains, maybe only the guys in this village will drop something, tons and a half ....
  43. lexx2038
    lexx2038 24 November 2015 19: 25 New
    11
    Bashar al-Assad has good air defense with our instructors, he has the right to bring down anyone on his territory!
  44. Patriot C
    Patriot C 24 November 2015 19: 25 New
    -38
    Quote: Katukov
    А кто знает почему самолёт был один? Думаю если было прикрытие эти псы зассали бы атаковать т.к. "мгновенная карма" и по зубам гниды огребут.

    the plane was not alone. a pair of su-24 met a pair of f-16, i.e. two for two. the strongest won. soldier
    1. RONIN-HS
      RONIN-HS 24 November 2015 19: 46 New
      +3
      ...those. two by two. won the strongest ...

      два истребителя на два наших штурмовика. И где здесь равенство, истребители всегда имеют фору... "победил сильнейший"... стратег, ! fool
    2. Proud.
      Proud. 24 November 2015 19: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: PatriotC
      the plane was not alone. a pair of su-24 met a pair of f-16, i.e. two for two. the strongest won.

      Стебётесь?Не время,и не место.Вам "-".
    3. Anatole
      Anatole 24 November 2015 20: 06 New
      +1
      Su 24 attack aircraft! Now they will provide escort for 30, and then we'll see ...
      1. gispanec
        gispanec 24 November 2015 21: 10 New
        +5
        Quote: Anatole
        Su 24 attack aircraft!

        fool Su 25 attack aircraft, and 24 front bomber .... grief connoisseur ...
    4. bannik
      bannik 24 November 2015 20: 37 New
      +2
      Победил?! Подло ударил в спину, когда никто и не собирался с ним воевать. А вот теперь посмотрим, как им дальше "победять" получится!
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    7. Scandinavian
      Scandinavian 24 November 2015 22: 26 New
      0
      mambet he and in africa mambet
    8. voronbel53
      voronbel53 24 November 2015 23: 27 New
      0
      "патриот", ну ты и чудак на букву "М", пришлось тебя внести в ЧС, чтоб запаху таких не было,- полемику с такими вести бестолку...
    9. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 November 2015 23: 31 New
      +2
      Quote: PatriotC
      the plane was not alone. a pair of su-24 met a pair of f-16, i.e. two for two. the strongest won.

      Hmm ... it’s rightly said, IF GOD WANTS TO PUNISH A HUMAN, HE LOSES HIS MIND. Treat your head, sickly. fool
    10. TұrKBөrӨ
      TұrKBөrӨ 25 November 2015 02: 07 New
      0
      Better not write laughing here, after all, the National Socialists are alone. stop
  45. sober
    sober 24 November 2015 19: 26 New
    +7
    If there is no retaliation, then the rest of the pilots might think that no one will stand up for us either !!! And this is already a doubt. It would be right now and calibers, and all the bombers on this site. Burn out without fear and doubt !!!!! !!!!!!
    1. Anatole
      Anatole 24 November 2015 20: 09 New
      +1
      Это войсковая операция, все хотят убить друг друга, мы лупим по ним, они пытаются лупануть нас. Соколов наших жаль, но это война. Тогда уж надо бомбить "бенефицара", США и Турков...
  46. sounddoc
    sounddoc 24 November 2015 19: 27 New
    11
    We are waiting, Vladimir Vladimirovich ...
  47. starec.luka
    starec.luka 24 November 2015 19: 27 New
    +1
    it's fairto or what
    1. sober
      sober 24 November 2015 19: 40 New
      0
      you drive. it's not today
      1. starec.luka
        starec.luka 24 November 2015 22: 04 New
        +1
        the first channel under the insisted the loss of a helicopter .... and the death of a marine ... hell for May 1st pancake
    2. win
      win 24 November 2015 19: 49 New
      +2
      This is a promotional training video.
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      2. win
        win 24 November 2015 22: 55 New
        +2
        For minus one I explain:
        The first part of the video is advertising and practical demonstration of anti-tank missile system. Time of shooting - it is not known what day.
        The second part is the shooting of a fixed helicopter.
        Then these two clips mounted.
    3. aniza
      aniza 24 November 2015 20: 10 New
      +6
      I think the destruction of a helicopter was what it was, but not today. The pinwheel stands with the engine turned off. I am not an expert, but as I know, a helicopter resets a detachment, flies away. And then he takes them in another square
      1. starec.luka
        starec.luka 24 November 2015 22: 08 New
        0
        all the same, they confirmed the loss of the helicopter ..... what's next ... our ny are not active I'm talking about the government
    4. Nychego
      Nychego 25 November 2015 00: 14 New
      0
      Quote: starec.luka
      is it fake or what

      Had already. Board and marine in minus. Alas.
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  48. denk20
    denk20 24 November 2015 19: 27 New
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    In such cases, in the traditions of our army, prisoners from these units are not taken. Well, at the same time, it became clear that there are simply no moderate ones.
  49. vladim.gorbunow
    vladim.gorbunow 24 November 2015 19: 28 New
    -3
    At a minimum, it is necessary to demand the extradition of the F-16 pilot to the Russian investigative authorities.
  50. baur2030
    baur2030 24 November 2015 19: 28 New
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    Quote: NatoIScoming
    They warned not to fly over the territory of Turkey more than once, which state will tolerate constant mockery of their ban? A stab in the back you call the defense of your borders ???

    There was no reason to shoot down, 1 plane posed no threat to Turkey.