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Vladimir Putin: "Turkey, what, wants to put NATO at the service of ISIS?"

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Russian President Vladimir Putin commented on today's attack by Turkish interceptors on the Russian Su-24 bomber, which carried out a counter-terrorism mission in Syria. The head of the Russian state stressed that the Russian Ministry of Defense has all the necessary evidence that the Russian aircraft did not enter the Turkish airspace. According to Vladimir Putin, the downed bomber fell at a distance of approximately 4 km from the Syrian-Turkish border - on Syrian territory. At the time of applying for the VKS RF aircraft, it was no closer than 1 km from the Turkish air borders at an altitude of about 6 thousand meters.


Vladimir Putin:
In any case, our plane, our pilots did not threaten the Turkish Republic. They carried out an antiterrorist operation against ISIS militants.


Vladimir Putin: "Turkey, what, wants to put NATO at the service of ISIS?"


According to the President of Russia, in the mountainous part of Latakia there are terrorist groups, many of whom are representatives of the Russian Federation. The President noted that the challenge aviation The Russian Aerospace Forces is also to ensure that these militants do not return to Russia, but are destroyed in Syria.

Vladimir Putin (quote "Россия 24"):
We have long fixed the fact that a large amount of smuggled oil goes to the territory of Turkey, hence a large cash supply (LIH). Well, now also blows to our back, blows to planes that are involved in an anti-terrorism operation. This is despite the fact that we signed an agreement with the United States on the prevention of incidents in the sky, while Turkey itself declared that it was allegedly fighting terrorists. If LIH has such money, and the bill goes to tens of billions of dollars from oil trade, plus they have protection from the armed forces of certain states, then it is understandable why they behave so boldly and brazenly, why they kill people in such a brutal way, why commit acts of terrorism in the center of Europe. Today’s event will have very serious consequences for Russian-Turkish relations.


Vladimir Putin noted that Russia treated Turkey not just as a partner, but as a friendly state.

President of the Russian Federation:
I do not know who needed what was done today ... In any case, not for us ... Instead of establishing contacts with us, the Turkish side appealed to NATO for consultations. As if it was not they who shot down our plane, but we were Turkish. Do they want to put NATO in the service of ISIS?


Vladimir Putin added that he understands that different countries have their own regional interests, and said that Russia will never tolerate such attacks, one of which against the Russian Federation occurred today.

The Russian president urged the international community not to deviate from the ideas of the fight against terrorism and to give an adequate assessment of what happened today.


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  1. Saratovets
    Saratovets 24 November 2015 16: 28
    285
    One of Putin’s toughest statements in all 16 years of rule !.
    GDP we are with you!
    1. sannych
      sannych 24 November 2015 16: 29
      144
      "Turkey = ISIS = terrorism". Vladimir Putin.
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 24 November 2015 16: 31
        74
        Lavrov has just rushed to Putin to Sochi! The other day, a meeting was planned at the level of the Foreign Ministry in Turkey! And it’s like that!
        Recently, both Putin and Lavrov said that even less like this would be equated to a declaration of war! Apparently, they are provoking us to respond and the mess would begin, substituting Turkey forward !, and only then, they hope that these couple of days of provocation can be "blurred", "lying", "distorted"!

        PS:
        And the article does not say the basic, harsh words of Putin:

        A stab in the back by terrorist accomplices (Explicitly called Turkey)
        I can’t qualify otherwise.

        ... over the territory of Syria ...

        Now it’s also a blow to us in the back, despite the fact that the Americans signed an agreement on relations in the air of Syria, and Turkey with them in a coalition

        we will carefully analyze ...

        serious consequences for Russian-Turkish relations.
        We treated Turkey as a friendly state-woo.

        Instead of establishing contacts with us, Turkey immediately turned to NATO, as if it was we who shot down their plane, and not vice versa!
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          1. Korvo
            Korvo 24 November 2015 16: 45
            178 th
            Quote: Temples
            what will make the GDP in this situation

            Personally write on the gates of the Turkish Embassy insulting word wink
            1. figwam
              figwam 24 November 2015 16: 47
              24
              Erdogan's response statement.
              Ankara will not tolerate violations of its airspace by Russian military aircraft. “An attack on Turkey is an attack on NATO,” the Turkish leader summed up.

              Our plane did not fly into Turkey.
              We are on the brink of war.
              1. Metallurgist
                Metallurgist 24 November 2015 16: 55
                57
                Let’s see ... If Turkey is suddenly accepted into the EU, this is one thing, and if NATO drops the Turks now (in 19: 00 in Moscow time they have a gangway) - this is different.
                I ask you to take into account that the Anglo-Saxons have tremendous experience of the TRIETNESS of their allies.
                1. Canep
                  Canep 24 November 2015 17: 19
                  16
                  Quote: Metallurg
                  I ask you to take into account that the Anglo-Saxons have tremendous experience of the TRIETNESS of their allies.

                  God forbid, but I’m afraid on November 24, 2015 the third world war began, I doubt that NATO will turn its back on Turkey. Bosphorus! God forbid if I'm wrong.
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                    1. _Vladislav_
                      _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 18: 35
                      32
                      Well, war is not war.
                      And yet, knowing who Putin is (KGB officer), and how skillfully he soaks in the toilet. It may sound pathetic, but I think Turkey should expect problems.

                      Just now, I can’t say that tomorrow, the F-16 will not fall anywhere near the borders of Syria.

                      Not. Of course there will be no war. It is unlikely that war will start because of our drying.
                      Forum members Atalef in principle, he correctly said that Russia would not start a war because of the drying down.
                      But also because of one F-16 shot down by Russia, no one will start a war with Russia either, believe me.

                      PS
                      Like you checked us for patience, we can check you too.
                      1. sergeant1986
                        sergeant1986 24 November 2015 20: 02
                        +8
                        Suddenly, systems in the air at the F-16 will begin to fail en masse. anything happens. And it’s not always EW.
                      2. NEXUS
                        NEXUS 24 November 2015 20: 12
                        28
                        Quote: sergeant1986
                        Suddenly, systems in the air at the F-16 will begin to fail en masse. anything happens. And it’s not always EW.

                        I’m very interested in the question: WHERE AT OUR ATTACK F-16 OF OUR SU-24 WERE OUR COVERAGE FIGHTERS WHICH ARE REQUIRED TO BE ACCOMPANIED AND COVERED?
                      3. Aqela
                        Aqela 24 November 2015 20: 50
                        0
                        How is it in one of the films?
                        But this is the right question! yes
                      4. igor.borov775
                        igor.borov775 25 November 2015 01: 56
                        +6
                        There are not so many planes in that area, because there wasn’t enough cover for trust because they agreed and even signed a protocol on how to behave when meeting a coalition plane. Now, probably, meetings with colleagues over the territory of Syria will be watched both behind them. One lesson is enough. How not bitter but we learn the lesson quickly. The options are probably being considered now to completely eliminate even the slightest attempt. I listened to the performance of the Syrian general on the box; he complained about the limited resources in technical support. The Army lacks equipment for more powerful attacks on the enemies of the country. A long war and heavy wear and tear. We have to carefully allocate resources and they are still modest.
                  2. Aqela
                    Aqela 24 November 2015 20: 48
                    +6
                    And because of the F-16 pilot who died in a car accident (lost control), moreover, not a single su.c.
                2. saturn.mmm
                  saturn.mmm 24 November 2015 18: 39
                  +7
                  Quote: dr. sem
                  Most likely Turkey will be given a hat in NATO and offered to get out on its own ...

                  Obama most likely already called Putin and offered to hush everything up.
                  1. Mikhalych 70
                    Mikhalych 70 24 November 2015 18: 47
                    -6
                    Can't it be the same as with the Kursk? Then, if I am not mistaken, they wrote off the debts to us, now they can offer to mitigate the sanctions "in compensation" ...
                  2. SAN31
                    SAN31 24 November 2015 21: 15
                    +4
                    Already softened. They lifted sanctions for the supply of helicopters for Kabul.
                  3. svd-xnumx
                    svd-xnumx 24 November 2015 21: 58
                    +9
                    Then, if I’m not mistaken, debts were written off to us.
                    Russia has paid off the debts not only of the USSR, but also of the Russian Empire, Western tycoons will strangle their mother for a cent, and you "wrote off the debts"
                3. revnagan
                  revnagan 24 November 2015 20: 06
                  11
                  Quote: saturn.mmm
                  Obama most likely already called Putin and offered to hush everything up.

                  Hush up? Yes easy! Give the Turkish pilot, give those who gave him the command to attack. Pay compensation, apologize internationally. This is at least.
                4. SAN31
                  SAN31 24 November 2015 21: 19
                  +6
                  Eh. If I had my way, I would have already hammered the "strait" with a torpedo - that's why I'm not a president.
                5. Lieutenant colonel
                  Lieutenant colonel 25 November 2015 02: 42
                  +2
                  Its near - vigorous is not worth it, but Dismantle the enemy airfield from which the ENEMY plane took off - that would be GOOD!
                6. KVS
                  KVS 25 November 2015 23: 07
                  +1
                  there is one problem ...
                  a large number of fans of on-clu ...
            2. Allitet
              Allitet 25 November 2015 22: 26
              0
              Because of these traitors, our troops also lost a helicopter! How can you deal with such "partners"? Those who betrayed one time will betray another!
          2. Falcon
            Falcon 24 November 2015 21: 45
            +2
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Obama most likely already called Putin and offered to hush everything up.


            Vryatli. I think he was in advance in the know. This is an occasion to close the Bosphorus and force us to collapse the base in Latak.
          3. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 24 November 2015 22: 02
            +9
            Quote: Falcon
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Obama most likely already called Putin and offered to hush everything up.


            Vryatli. I think he was in advance in the know. This is an occasion to close the Bosphorus and force us to collapse the base in Latak.

            Now everyone is talking about closing the Bosphorus today, but does someone really imagine the mechanism of this action?
            in accordance with the Montreux Convention, according to which the Bosphorus was handed over to the ADMINISTRATION of Turkey, the status of a complaint by one of the powers can be revised (i.e., if we want, it can take the strait to itself by law) ...
            however, now nobody will stand on ceremony with legal formalities, they will try to block the strait by military means, then we will expand and deepen it with our own ...
          4. Falcon
            Falcon 24 November 2015 22: 07
            0
            Quote: DanaF1
            Quote: Falcon
            Quote: saturn.mmm
            Obama most likely already called Putin and offered to hush everything up.


            Vryatli. I think he was in advance in the know. This is an occasion to close the Bosphorus and force us to collapse the base in Latak.

            Now everyone is talking about closing the Bosphorus today, but does someone really imagine the mechanism of this action?
            in accordance with the Montreux Convention, according to which the Bosphorus was handed over to the ADMINISTRATION of Turkey, the status of a complaint by one of the powers can be revised (i.e., if we want, it can take the strait to itself by law) ...
            however, now nobody will stand on ceremony with legal formalities, they will try to block the strait by military means, then we will expand and deepen it with our own ...


            In accordance with the Montreux Convention
            Turkey may close the strait:

            "In the event of Turkey's participation in the war, as well as if Turkey considers that it is directly threatened by war, it has the right to authorize or prohibit the passage of any military ships through the straits. During a war in which Turkey does not participate, the straits may be closed to the passage of military ships of any belligerent power. "
          5. Danafxnumx
            Danafxnumx 24 November 2015 22: 14
            0
            Quote: Falcon
            "In the event of Turkey's participation in the war, as well as if Turkey considers that it is directly threatened by war, it has the right to allow or prohibit the passage of any military ships through the straits.

            are you sure any?
            In my opinion, this does not apply to the participating countries ...

            but in any case, there is a second option ...
        2. win
          win 25 November 2015 18: 13
          +2
          close the bosphorus


          In order to block the straits, Turkey must declare war officially on the Russian Federation, because the regime of straits is regulated by the 1936 Montreux Convention, which establishes a completely special regime of free shipping for the Black Sea states, and the case of closing the straits is stipulated there, but only in case of war between Turkey and that state for which it closes the torrential zone.
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      2. Lieutenant colonel
        Lieutenant colonel 25 November 2015 02: 46
        0
        Well, they closed the straits tomorrow - and then what ?! Otherwise, why won't we be able to approach the borders of Syria ?! You would sometimes look at the map - there are other ways of supplying our bases. Are all our ships from the Black Sea Fleet going to Syria? Or did the same "Moscow" also come across the Black Sea to the shores of Syria, or will Kuznetsov leave Sevastopol?
      3. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 25 November 2015 03: 20
        0
        Quote: Reserve lieutenant colonel
        Or the same "Moscow" also came across the Black Sea to the shores of Syria

        Well, DBK "Moscow" is just based in Sevastopol ...
    2. ver_
      ver_ 25 November 2015 04: 48
      +2
      ... and the idea is our Constantinople - Istanbul today ...?
  • jaroff
    jaroff 24 November 2015 19: 05
    +9
    I will not be surprised if the Turks are advised to apologize to the Russian Federation, to express condolences to the families of the killed pilots, to pay compensation and thus "hush up" the incident. By the way, that would be the wisest decision.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 November 2015 19: 22
      13
      Quote: zharyoff
      I will not be surprised if the Turks are advised to apologize to the Russian Federation, to express condolences to the families of the killed pilots, to pay compensation and thus "hush up" the incident. By the way, that would be the wisest decision.

      It will not work. This is "not an accidental poisoning of Russian tourists with fired vodka," but a military aggressive attack, which in principle is regarded in fact as a declaration of war.
      All services and parties are monitoring this situation and there will certainly not be a simple solution. Most likely, there will be diplomatic confrontation and economic steps first. And when tourists are urgently evacuated, they may start shooting down Turkish planes and hitting ISIS bases in Turkey. And it will be a springboard the Crimean peninsula for such attacks, a military group will keep the entire Russian Sea under guns.
    2. ferdiperdozzz
      ferdiperdozzz 24 November 2015 19: 39
      +8
      A plus for you for the "Wise decision", but I think that the Turks did not come up with this, and not in order to hush up :(
      Unfortunately.
  • Monos
    Monos 24 November 2015 17: 59
    14
    Che, they beat ours?
    1. Monos
      Monos 24 November 2015 18: 16
      +6
      These animals of the coast have beguiled.
      1. PM78
        PM78 24 November 2015 19: 17
        0
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  • larand
    larand 24 November 2015 18: 29
    +9
    Quote: Canep

    God forbid, but I’m afraid on November 24, 2015 the third world war began, I doubt that NATO will turn its back on Turkey. Bosphorus! God forbid if I'm wrong.


    The laurels of Herostratus haunt Turk and he decided to go down in history as having unleashed the 3rd World War. Only P.R.I.d.u.r.o.k. I didn’t think that after this story will be gone.
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 24 November 2015 18: 37
    +5
    Quote: Canep
    God forbid, but I’m afraid on November 24, 2015 the third world war began, I doubt that NATO will turn its back on Turkey. Bosphorus! God forbid if I'm wrong.

    All will be frozen.
    1. SAN31
      SAN31 24 November 2015 21: 22
      0
      Do not be hushed up. Just the answer will be stretched in time, but it will be cruel. I think the Turks themselves will raise Erdogan to a stake.
      1. atarix
        atarix 24 November 2015 22: 21
        -1
        IMHO.
        Erdogan will have to bang his son - who bought oil from the Isis.
        ... as an atonement.
        still.
        will have to open the southern part of Turkey for flights of military aircraft of the Russian Federation.
        perhaps he will informally apologize for the military’s mistake.
        much later, this plane will come out as a formal reason for tearing off part of the territory of Turkey in favor of the Kurds.
  • igor.borov775
    igor.borov775 25 November 2015 01: 36
    +1
    Lord of what you write there will be no war. It's just that now this very one of the members of the coalition that created the USA is given a black mark. Now they will simply bring down Turkish planes found in the Syrian sky. and now they’ll strictly monitor Moscow ordered to close the district. Others will take measures after the investigation of the incident. We must wait for our dear colleagues to post there
  • dr. sem
    dr. sem 24 November 2015 17: 33
    15
    Let's argue . I give 10 against 1 that NATO will not bribe for the reg.anza Er.doganets.
    1. atalef
      atalef 24 November 2015 17: 35
      20
      Quote: dr. sem
      Let's argue . I give 10 against 1 that NATO will not bribe for the reg.anza Er.doganets.

      There will be no war.
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        1. Rezistant
          Rezistant 24 November 2015 18: 11
          12
          Ideally, it would be targeted - just bastard Erdohan just peep.
      2. meriem1
        meriem1 24 November 2015 17: 55
        10
        Quote: atalef
        Quote: dr. sem
        Let's argue . I give 10 against 1 that NATO will not bribe for the reg.anza Er.doganets.

        There will be no war.


        And do not! There are international laws !!! Turks will fly to Syria- DROP their planes! The answer should be unambiguous and tough. It is clear that after losing to Russia for a minute 30 wars ... the Turks overthrew. Only Erdogan has already lost. Tourists from Russia 20% of Turkey's GDP ...
        1. Revolver
          Revolver 24 November 2015 18: 20
          +7
          Quote: meriem1
          Tourists from Russia 20% of Turkey's GDP ...

          Correctly. Fuck Turkey is needed, in the same Caribbean the climate is better and calmer, and there are no allah babahs, and the prices for holidays are much lower. True, for Russians the flight is not easy, with the change of time zones, but for such a good deed as sending the Turks on an intimate and pedestrian tour, you can also tolerate.
          Or Israel itself - no further than Egypt, and Eilat in the same Red Sea as the Egyptian resorts, and there will be not Arabs, but Jews around, who understand Russian through one. True, there is a risk of getting a knife from a crazy Arab in the name of Allah request
        2. 3axap82
          3axap82 24 November 2015 18: 51
          +1
          Nagan, you are close to us far in SKB
        3. woron333444
          woron333444 24 November 2015 19: 39
          21
          Why do we need the Caribbean, it’s better in Altai
        4. Sanmak
          Sanmak 25 November 2015 04: 26
          +1
          Nagan (6) US


          you yourself fly to the Jews to rest, but my conscience before the Russian people will not allow !!! And what is better there? In Egypt, there are babakhs and so, and the Jews will soon also not be bypassed, for Palestine and other neighbors, and their terrorist fosterlings are fleeing to them as well as to Turkey - so to speak "to the owners"!

          Rest at home !!!
        5. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 26 November 2015 13: 10
          0
          Israel is too expensive for those who rest / vacation in Turkey.
      3. Oleg14774
        Oleg14774 24 November 2015 18: 23
        +4
        Quote: meriem1
        Tourists from Russia 20% of Turkey's GDP ...

        And plus a stream, and official, but not stolen. Yes, and they say nuclear power could be.
      4. revnagan
        revnagan 24 November 2015 20: 10
        0
        Quote: meriem1
        Turks will fly to Syria- DROP their planes!


        And if they don’t fly in? It’s not pigeons for you, you won’t lure them with grain.
      5. Danafxnumx
        Danafxnumx 24 November 2015 22: 07
        +2
        Quote: revnagan


        And if they don’t fly in? It’s not pigeons for you, you won’t lure them with grain.


        and if they do not fly, then drop on their territory and say that the caliber missed ... oops, it happens, at least ask amers ...
  • Revolver
    Revolver 24 November 2015 17: 58
    30
    And it’s weak to calculate those Turks who piloted the F-16, and those Turkish generals who gave the order? Calculate, find in any corner of the globe, and soak in the toilet?
    And the Jews did this in the last century. If I am not mistaken, none of those involved in the terrorist attack at the Munich Olympics in 1972 lived long after that, and they died from completely natural causes, such as a broken heart, by a rapidly moving metal object.
    1. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 24 November 2015 18: 26
      +9
      Quote: Nagan
      And it’s weak to calculate those Turks who piloted the F-16, and those Turkish generals who gave the order? Calculate, find in any corner of the globe, and soak in the toilet?

      I gave you a "+", but it's like a cry from the heart. And as cold reasoning, this is a planned provocation and was carried out by the military, who acted on orders. Firing a rocket at our planes, which was 1 km away from the border, I think that the pilots might not have known, and there were also such pilots as Turchinov and generals. Then it wouldn't be bad.
    2. serg2108
      serg2108 24 November 2015 18: 36
      +4
      I think they will do so just now is not the time to talk about it, you need to let off steam and the security services have already received instructions ,,,
    3. Valiich
      Valiich 24 November 2015 20: 46
      0
      I agree rather yes than no!
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 24 November 2015 18: 40
    +4
    Quote: atalef

    There will be no war.

    200% will not be, Obama will tell Erdogan that he wouldn’t do that anymore.
  • Sanmak
    Sanmak 25 November 2015 04: 17
    +1
    atalef (8) IL Yesterday, 17: 35 ↑

    There will be no war.


    What is it that such statements look like 1941 "there will be no war, no answer to provocations" !!! You don’t fool us here !!!
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    1. Peterhof 73
      Peterhof 73 24 November 2015 17: 55
      +3
      Quote: atalef
      Quote: dr. sem
      Let's argue . I give 10 against 1 that NATO will not bribe for the reg.anza Er.doganets.

      There will be no war.

      I would not want to be. But then what? Then what? How to get out of such situations, if there have been no such situations in the last 70 years. It’s good if Putin knows HOW. I really hope for it.
      1. saturn.mmm
        saturn.mmm 24 November 2015 18: 47
        +3
        Quote: Petergofsky73
        But then what? Then what? How to get out of such situations

        You are wisely planning operations not at resorts, without a blooper it does not work out either the Tu-22 in Georgia was framed under the Buk, or the Su-24 under the Turks, and then suddenly a clever general sought out “we can deploy EW in Syria” laugh or cry.
  • Militia
    Militia 24 November 2015 18: 31
    +2
    Erdogan alone will not subscribe to such a harlot against Russia. Vernyak that the script was written on the downed Boeing in the Donbass. The main thing is to create a precedent and immediately scream loudest than anyone else and blame Russia for everything.
  • Danafxnumx
    Danafxnumx 24 November 2015 21: 56
    0
    Quote: Metallurg
    Let’s see ... If Turkey is suddenly accepted into the EU, this is one thing, and if NATO drops the Turks now (in 19: 00 in Moscow time they have a gangway) - this is different.

    Well, the Americans said that it was not NATO’s business, but the issues of illegal border crossing, which Russia and Turkey should solve ...
    that is, they removed themselves from the problem, while laying bricks to the ceiling ...
  • hedgehog in the fog
    hedgehog in the fog 25 November 2015 19: 08
    +1
    From time immemorial, the Turks fought with us, always fought. And with Rurikovich, and with the Romanovs, more than 4 centuries, did you really think that some 50 years will change history and Basurman will become friends with us ???
  • ivanov-35
    ivanov-35 26 November 2015 22: 42
    0
    You should never trust the USA, England, Germany, Poland, Turkey and Japan .... these are the eternal enemies of Russia ....
  • Yuri from Volgograd
    Yuri from Volgograd 24 November 2015 17: 07
    40
    Quote: figvam
    Erdogan's response statement.
    Ankara will not tolerate violations of its airspace by Russian military aircraft. “An attack on Turkey is an attack on NATO,” the Turkish leader summed up.

    Our plane did not fly into Turkey.
    We are on the brink of war.

    The probability of war is extremely small.
    Rather, the war will now be a trade.
    Resorts, oranges, auto parts from Turkey can be forgotten, now they will not be given anything to sell here.
    Personally, I already impose my sanctions on the Turks and completely impose an embargo on Turkish goods in the family (there has long been a part of US production there).
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    2. Throw
      Throw 24 November 2015 17: 13
      62
      By the way, the Turks in the Russian Federation have a lot of merchant businesses and construction contracts.
      Everyone moved away with a filthy broom along with families and relatives.

      But there must be a forceful answer. angry
      1. madjik
        madjik 24 November 2015 17: 19
        30
        Kalmyk ax cries for a long time in the Turks! Vova let us in to them !!!!!!!!!!! AT LEAST 100 PEOPLE
      2. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 24 November 2015 20: 29
        0
        Quote: Lance
        But there must be a forceful answer.


        there is not enough good Hiroshima to the Turks, bashbuzuki fucking.
    3. dog1965
      dog1965 24 November 2015 17: 23
      45
      The correct answer is to impose personal sanctions. Moreover, Turkish products are mostly shit anyway. I remember starting from the Baltics. True, sprats, unfortunately, are still on sale. Apparently not everyone understands the slogan "This is your war!" And after the incident with the plane, everyone who is vacationing in Turkey will be considered either insignificant cosmopolitans (idiots, in short), or entities who turned out to be with a Russian passport by mistake of nature.
      1. Sterlya
        Sterlya 24 November 2015 18: 00
        15
        Quote: Dog1965
        And after the incident with the plane, I will consider everyone who has a rest in Turkey to be either insignificant cosmopolitans (idiots, in short), or entities who find themselves with a Russian passport by mistake of nature.

        I support. I think so for a long time already. And from this day I will not buy anything Turkish, I hope they will impose sanctions on everything Turkish.
        Is it an hour for tourists to fly to Turkey? Well, if you don’t value your life, who will be for them?
    4. Altona
      Altona 24 November 2015 17: 25
      +4
      Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
      The probability of war is extremely small.
      Rather, the war will now be a trade.

      -----------------------
      A no-fly zone can be entered ... 200 km above Turkish territory ...
    5. a housewife
      a housewife 24 November 2015 17: 25
      +1
      - Mikhail Emanuelovich, you go on the left, I go on the right and ... -Shura, you can’t beat! laughing
    6. captain dvv
      captain dvv 24 November 2015 18: 19
      16 th
      Right.
      They knock down our planes and we forbid them to deliver tomatoes.
      Again, Putin's brilliant move.
      1. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 24 November 2015 19: 15
        +6
        Quote: captain dvv
        They knock down our planes and we forbid them to deliver tomatoes.
        Again, Putin's brilliant move.


        Here it is not necessary here to attribute his own nonsense to Putin. For your little thoughts sign.
    7. TURAR
      TURAR 24 November 2015 18: 49
      +6
      And if the Bosphorus is closed? What do we do?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 24 November 2015 19: 36
        0
        Seaplane-based seaplanes are mass-build, and superheavy.
      2. Valiich
        Valiich 24 November 2015 20: 13
        +3
        One good missile will clear the Bosphorus in case of war. The point is different, from the Turks one should expect meanness like this. They are in NATO and should not be forgotten. And the fact that they did this during the time when the Russian Aerospace Forces is working there suggests that the Aerospace Forces found the most painful point of all, namely the IS "funding channel", and also, in this mountainous and wooded part of Syria, a huge accumulation of militants who took refuge from the Aerospace Forces raids Russia, large groups of militants from the CIS and Russia! I think this is very important. And the Turks are under the heel of Uncle Sam, on the second now, of course, in the first roles. And Turkey will answer in accordance with all norms and rules of both international and human law. The Turks will not even be able to wash away such mistakes with blood. They, following the whole West, believed in impunity, and seriously hurt. I think it is unlikely that anyone would dare to start a war when they were just groping with IS. This is the West and NATO and Erdogan, at the genetic level he feels hatred for Russia for the historical defeats of his ancestors and ancestors. And in general, they are mostly Turks corrupt and cowardly, from the former Ottoman Empire only dust remained. The Kurds need help and let them hit them in the teeth so that the smoke goes out. Putin faces him and he ... and leave him in this position. Long-range aviation, I think, will roll this area into concrete!
        1. Altona
          Altona 24 November 2015 22: 58
          0
          Quote: Valiich
          Long-range aviation, I think, rolls this area into concrete!

          ------------------------
          In general, as I understand it, Putin does not like when military personnel die and the answer will come, officially or unofficially, they will accidentally break anyone’s head, it’s hard to imagine now. But the Turks will answer for the death of officers in any way ...
        2. Kostya
          Kostya 24 November 2015 23: 48
          0
          So it is necessary to focus on this mountainous woodland !!!
          1. Trogvar
            Trogvar 25 November 2015 02: 41
            +1
            right ... the Turks want to "buffer zone" so and make it, but with one amendment: STERILE buffer zone .. that is .. no one alive, not even bacteria.
    8. JAJAJA
      JAJAJA 25 November 2015 02: 59
      0
      Russia and Turkey will fight in the future ..... under other circumstances


      but
      Erdogan is a clear slave of the US

      fu fu !! the true face of our partner or igil

      List of warsList of wars


      and list the wars

      angry
  • Kasym
    Kasym 24 November 2015 17: 08
    74
    This fool is Erdogan. He was given the chance to become a key player with the Turkish Stream. Because of the son’s income on oil smuggling, substitute such projects for his country. Risks to many:
    1. Turkish stream
    2. NPP
    3. Visa-free space and tourist flow.
    4. FTA (free trade zone) with the EAEU: textiles, food.
    5. Kurdistan
    6. "Erdogan must leave" because an accomplice and sponsor of terrorists.
    7. Hollande with the EU in a difficult situation.
    And all this because of my son? Here the Kremlin doesn’t even need to bomb, it will cut economically so that in a year Turkey will feel that it has done. This is with tens of billions of investments and trade.
    Erdogan had a good chance, but now not Assad, but he must leave. France will not be delighted with such "antics" - how can Hollande go to Moscow !? Erdogan can be "put down" by the EU for such a setup, but let's see how they will "get out". But at the very least, he will become an "unwanted" person in European yards.
    Sponsors climbed out. Who will come out next to defend their tame "terrorists"? hi
    1. Yuri from Volgograd
      Yuri from Volgograd 24 November 2015 17: 15
      18
      Quote: Kasym
      This fool is Erdogan. He was given the chance to become a key player with the Turkish Stream. Because of the son’s income on oil smuggling, substitute such projects for his country. Risks to many:
      1. Turkish stream
      2. NPP
      3. Visa-free space and tourist flow.
      4. FTA (free trade zone) with the EAEU: textiles, food.
      5. Kurdistan
      6. "Erdogan must leave" because an accomplice and sponsor of terrorists.
      7. Hollande with the EU in a difficult situation.
      And all this because of my son? Here the Kremlin doesn’t even need to bomb, it will cut economically so that in a year Turkey will feel that it has done. This is with tens of billions of investments and trade.
      Erdogan had a good chance, but now not Assad, but he must leave. France will not be delighted with such "antics" - how can Hollande go to Moscow !? Erdogan can be "put down" by the EU for such a setup, but let's see how they will "get out". But at the very least, he will become an "unwanted" person in European yards.
      Sponsors climbed out. Who will come out next to defend their tame "terrorists"? hi

      Now you can forget about the pipe, and without it, the Turks, instead of the next entry into the European Union, will most likely once again be asked to wait a few years again.
      But honestly we will not be easier. But we were left with no choice.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 24 November 2015 17: 31
        -4
        Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
        Now you can forget about the pipe

        but I believe that these words are not true. The pipe will be laid. Otherwise, gas will not go around the urkaina.
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 24 November 2015 17: 38
          16
          Without Erdogan, the pipe will be - "Erdogan must leave." Here he is sick fool what you need to be a psychopath to do this. And who will now reach out to him and say hello? hi
        2. paxil
          paxil 24 November 2015 18: 06
          +8
          Quote: Hedgehog
          but I believe that these words are not true. The pipe will be laid. Otherwise, gas will not go around the urkaina.

          Duck, this is already laying Nord Stream 2 however. lol
        3. woron333444
          woron333444 24 November 2015 19: 45
          +4
          Bypassing Ukraine is the Nord Stream-2. After its launch, the South Stream is not needed. It's like with the Mistrals - they wanted to help a foreign economy.
        4. Old old
          Old old 24 November 2015 22: 22
          0
          but I believe that these words are not true. The pipe will be laid. Otherwise, gas will not go around the urkaina.

          Nord Stream 2
      2. Shveps
        Shveps 24 November 2015 17: 35
        10
        Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
        Now you can forget about the pipe


        Ankara is in time trouble, because Dependent on Ukrainian transit. About 14 billion m3 of Russian gas enters Turkey through the Ukrainian GTS. Attempts to oppose the Turkish Stream project TANAP so far fail.
        Recently, in the Turkish province of Kars, the main line of the Baku – Tbilisi – Erzurum gas pipeline was blown up. In the same region, the main gas pipeline from Iran and the Kirkuk – Ceyhan oil pipeline were disabled. Similar bombings in the Kurdish provinces have become commonplace.
        But we do not want to be friends with Russia. Or not allowed? Oh no no no.
        1. Valiich
          Valiich 24 November 2015 20: 40
          +1
          Kurds will declare themselves! Erdogan is completely led by the United States, of course not allowed. What Turkey could have a dream of many in Europe. But no nizya, dont freedom in Rassia. his nobleness! Now everyone is in the same condition, but I think Putin will subtly reconcile everything and make a decisive throw!
          1. svd-xnumx
            svd-xnumx 24 November 2015 22: 26
            +2
            Kurds will declare themselves!
            The Kurds are at the moment the most painful place of the Turks, a third of the territory and 25 million of the population is Turkish Kurdistan. In fact, in Syria and Iraq, the Kurds have won their own statehood, and their movement (assistance to the Kurds in Turkey) to the north is hindered by the war with IS. Here we need "play" subtly, without harming Iran where there are 4,5 million Kurds
    2. Babalaykin
      Babalaykin 24 November 2015 18: 10
      -4
      and the straits, the straits then forgot ... and Shushu (or Shushi)
    3. dauria
      dauria 24 November 2015 19: 20
      +2
      But at the very least he will become an "unwanted" person in European yards.


      Do you think Erdogan made this decision himself? Nonsense, the Americans decided, but they would only make him "guilty" to scold him. This is if a more serious game is not started to throw the Russian Federation out of the east and crush Assad.
    4. Valiich
      Valiich 24 November 2015 20: 25
      +1
      I completely agree with you Kasym! I have already noted, because of the desire to please the United States and the stupidity of my own son, I broke everything, for many years to come. The frayer's greed destroyed this time, very serious consequences. Russia respond very effectively! Gone are the days when Russia urine would swallow it. May God give to Russia! And God is the judge of this Erdogan!
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  • Baloo
    Baloo 24 November 2015 17: 12
    52
    Erdogan is lying. This is revenge for the painful fuel trucks on which ISIS oil was exported to Turkey. It was the business of Erdogan’s son.
    50 lyamas a day lost and ISIS. Continue. To set the condition, either the pilots will be returned within XNUMX hours, or there will be a deserted desert in the area to the border with Turkey.
    GDP seeks to comply with international law and expects the same from sworn partners. Only partners these crocodiles and jackals, which you need to constantly beat with a club otherwise they will devour.
  • Hello
    Hello 24 November 2015 17: 22
    20
    Quote: figvam
    Erdogan's response statement.
    Ankara will not tolerate violations of its airspace by Russian military aircraft. “An attack on Turkey is an attack on NATO,” the Turkish leader summed up.
    Our plane did not fly into Turkey.
    We are on the brink of war.

    Erdogan’s message is understandable; he wants to drag Nato into this business, though I strongly doubt that Nato will intervene on this issue for him. Too impudent action request.Nato most likely will try to hush up the situation
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 24 November 2015 17: 28
      +9
      Erdogan wants the collapse of Syria as a state and chop off, if not all, then a significant chunk of its territory. He is doing everything for this to "tie" NATO and make it his accomplice.
      Dumb and sneaky Reg .. pa Erdogan is playing with fire.
      ----------------
      From the news - Maria Gaidar filed a complaint against Poroshenko Saakashvili - for rape.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 24 November 2015 17: 31
        23
        Quote: Turkir
        Dumb and sneaky Erdogan is playing with fire.

        The pilots were shot in the air ... the bodies must be brought out so that the geeks do not mock them ... SOBOLEZNY NATIVE AND CLOSE TO. LIGHT MEMORY.
        1. Baloo
          Baloo 24 November 2015 18: 33
          +5
          NEXUS SOLEZNOGO NATIVE AND CLOSE. LIGHT MEMORY FOR THEM.

          I am joining. I hope that their memory will be immortalized in their small homelands in schools, street names with a commemorative plaque. hi
      2. Tatyana
        Tatyana 25 November 2015 23: 56
        +1
        Turkir (1)
        From the news - Maria Gaidar filed a complaint against Poroshenko Saakashvili - for rape.

        So Saakashvili took Masha for “this” for an internship with a probationary period!
        It turns out that Masha did not justify the "high" Mishino's "trust"! laughing
        Unless, of course, Masha doesn’t bluff herself, otherwise she’s also a bluff master! laughing
        Both of them - a couple more! bully
    2. Boatsman_Palych
      Boatsman_Palych 24 November 2015 17: 35
      +2
      And it’s not up to Erdogan to decide. Do you really think he himself made such a decision - without a pin.dos command?
      1. Hello
        Hello 24 November 2015 17: 45
        +6
        Quote: Boatswain_Palych
        And it’s not up to Erdogan to decide. Do you really think he himself made such a decision - without a pin.dos command?

        Do you really think that Americans are so idiotic? Erdogan literally directly opposed the Russian operation in Syria (I draw your attention to not finely sanctioning, not bribing a dozen other bearded hares, but went into direct conflict). Do you think that the United States needs a direct conflict with Russia? I think this is a personal initiative of the Turks, for which they will still receive a head off from the Amers.
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        2. woron333444
          woron333444 24 November 2015 19: 49
          +5
          It won’t get. The Americans have already stated that this is the business of only Turkey and Russia
        3. Sanmak
          Sanmak 25 November 2015 04: 37
          +1
          Hello IL

          What are you protecting the hosts ??? Always the Turks attacked Russia and always with someone's approval and under their auspices !!! So you do not lie here !!!
    3. vorobey
      vorobey 24 November 2015 18: 10
      +9
      Quote: Hello
      Nato is likely to try to hush up the situation.


      Already trying ... the Americans are silent but .... It is necessary to avoid escalation in relations between Russia and Turkey after the crash of the Su-24 in Syria, said the head of the EU diplomacy Federica Mogherini. “I spoke in the morning with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. An escalation between Turkey and Russia must be avoided, ”said Ms. Mogherini.

      Syrian Turkmens ... you de B & ls B ... there was a chance .. you completely deprived him of yourself ...
      1. Hello
        Hello 24 November 2015 18: 31
        +3
        Quote: vorobey
        Already trying ... the Americans are silent but .... It is necessary to avoid escalation in relations between Russia and Turkey after the crash of the Su-24 in Syria, said the head of the EU diplomacy Federica Mogherini. “I spoke in the morning with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. An escalation between Turkey and Russia must be avoided, ”said Ms. Mogherini.

        Syrian Turkmens ... you de B & ls B ... there was a chance .. you completely deprived him of yourself ...

        Welcome hi
        I think NATO will give the Turks nuts and will be right. If the Turks wanted to substitute NATO they succeeded fool
    4. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 24 November 2015 19: 03
      +7
      Quote: Hello
      . Too arrogant action

      Rather stupid, if before that they would have tried to meet Erdogan in Syria, now, most likely, nothing shines there for Erdogan.
    5. Baloo
      Baloo 24 November 2015 19: 10
      +3
      The settlement of the issue with the downed Russian Su-24 in Syria lies in the plane of Russian-Turkish relations, a Pentagon spokesman told Reuters.

      On Tuesday, November 24, the Turkish Air Force F-16 fighter shot down a Russian Su-24 bomber, which, according to Ankara, violated Turkish airspace and ignored the Turkish Air Force warnings for five minutes. As evidence, the Turkish media published a map with the trajectory of the Russian aircraft, formed according to Turkish radar.

      The Russian Ministry of Defense reports that they have evidence that the Su-24 was in Syrian airspace at the time of the attack.
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  • Army1
    Army1 24 November 2015 17: 22
    12
    Quote: figvam
    Erdogan's response statement.
    Ankara will not tolerate violations of its airspace by Russian military aircraft. “An attack on Turkey is an attack on NATO,” the Turkish leader summed up.

    Our plane did not fly into Turkey.
    We are on the brink of war.

    Yes, everything is clear, a banal provocation, they reminded about NATO sharply, well, well, it was a sneaky blow, and I warned what else could be expected from Turkey? I wish Erdogan to die painfully am
  • witch
    witch 24 November 2015 17: 50
    +2
    most likely it’s all arranged by the Americans. It’s necessary to start a war, and preferably a big one. Turkey is very suitable for this. Today, America’s debt is already 62 trillion bucks. This is not a repayable amount. Only a serious war can be written off. That’s what provokes. the question is whether we’ll take it all or go down on the brakes. but for the Turkish economy it will be very tangible. well, and the Turkish stream will not take place now unambiguously. .
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    2. Baloo
      Baloo 24 November 2015 18: 40
      -1
      the sorcerer most likely it's all arranged by the Americans. he needs to start a war and preferably a big
      There was a version on the first channel in the talk show that the phantom could be American. The Macaque macaques sent 6 phantoms to this area.
      1. northern
        northern 24 November 2015 21: 21
        +3
        The Phantom is the F-4. The last Phantom was withdrawn from service in the United States in 1992.
        Dryer shot down F-16. Do not watch any talk shows on zombies.
  • Belousov
    Belousov 24 November 2015 17: 52
    +3
    Erdogan as a naughty little bully just decided to hide behind NATO. That's just Nato will not harness for his sake, not the same size figure.
    1. Aurum
      Aurum 24 November 2015 22: 06
      0
      it’s purely Turkish to shit and topple over the back of the strong.
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  • vell.65
    vell.65 24 November 2015 17: 52
    +6
    Quote: figvam
    Our plane did not fly into Turkey.

    It was necessary even earlier for our attack aircraft and bombers to fly accompanied by fighters, I think the military will take this into account in the future and draw the appropriate conclusions. Is it still the Turks. Have they forgotten Ushakov !? am
  • ddd1975
    ddd1975 25 November 2015 02: 30
    0
    ... no, as usual, let's swallow and rub ourselves. And let's all say that we all remembered ... It's a shame that we have the best pilots and stupid generals - how can you trust "an ally in words" in war and send off attack aircraft without cover ???
  • _Alexei_
    _Alexei_ 25 November 2015 23: 57
    0
    Wake up Dear war is already going on, but in principle it didn’t stop even when
  • vorobey
    vorobey 24 November 2015 17: 00
    37
    Quote: Korvo
    Quote: Temples
    what will make the GDP in this situation

    Personally write on the gates of the Turkish Embassy insulting word wink



    oh I look, the occasion appeared ... the little girls climbed ... no ... didn’t write .. until 1 - 0 in favor of the Turks ... see you in the second period ... I repeat ... VKS grouping in Syria its sentence already made ..
  • Shuttle
    Shuttle 24 November 2015 17: 29
    10
    Quote: Korvo
    Quote: Temples
    what will make the GDP in this situation

    Personally write on the gates of the Turkish Embassy insulting word wink

    What for at the embassy?
    We will write on the gates of Tsar-grad (read, Constantinople). And beat the shields to their gates. Well then you are in the know, I hope ...
    1. Korvo
      Korvo 24 November 2015 17: 38
      32 th
      Quote: Shuttle
      we will write on the gates of Tsar-grad (read, Constantinople). And beat the shields to their gate

      It so happened that I was "itching" to ask a question to hundreds of today's commentators, but I'm asking it for you: today what's in Durka "open door"??
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 17: 48
        18
        Quote: Korvo
        today what's in the durkee "open day" ??

        You should have a schedule in the emergency room - look
        1. ferdiperdozzz
          ferdiperdozzz 24 November 2015 19: 58
          0
          Do not feed the troll :) He is paid a ruble for each minus dialed and for each answer to his post three.
          1. Korvo
            Korvo 24 November 2015 20: 24
            -2
            Quote: ferdiperdozzz
            He is paid a ruble for each minus dialed and for each answer to his post three.

            My dear, you are behind the times, the prices you quoted were fair exactly until the moment when "Obama" brought down the ruble !, so boldly double hi
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      3. Baloo
        Baloo 24 November 2015 18: 35
        +3
        Korvo today what's in the durkee "open day" ??

        and so Korvo was allowed to clave in honor of this
      4. Proud.
        Proud. 24 November 2015 20: 21
        +2
        Quote: Korvo
        today what's in the durkee "open day" ??

        It so happened that the question was not asked to me ... But I will answer you-Of course. You're released!
      5. vell.65
        vell.65 24 November 2015 20: 41
        0
        Quote: Korvo
        It so happened that I was "itching" to ask a question to hundreds of today's commentators, but I'm asking it for you: what is "open door day" in Durke today ??

        That is exactly what kind of comments come from fools. fool
      6. Aurum
        Aurum 24 November 2015 22: 09
        0
        about the rubber product the voice cast .. 4mo
      7. wild weld
        wild weld 24 November 2015 22: 14
        +1
        your name is not korvo and kurva is not otherwise
  • kotvov
    kotvov 24 November 2015 17: 30
    12
    Personally, he will write an insulting word at the gates of the Turkish Embassy,
    I would love to write on my forehead, a joker,
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 November 2015 17: 34
      +6
      Quote: kotvov
      Personally, he will write an insulting word at the gates of the Turkish Embassy,
      I would love to write on my forehead, a joker,

      I think the inscriptions alone will not end. The pilots were shot in the air when they catapulted. I think the Turkish embassy will spend a sleepless night today.
    2. Mikhalych 70
      Mikhalych 70 24 November 2015 18: 56
      +1
      Personally, I would have anointed with greenback. The whole chain, from small to large.
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  • Tambov Wolf
    Tambov Wolf 24 November 2015 17: 44
    +8
    No, there will be mercy with the "partners" again. Such a thing as the destruction of an aircraft by another country not over its territory is called a declaration of hostilities. And here you have to beat the Turks so that they get out of their pants. go to the resorts of Turkey), uuu, how are we going to see you.
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  • VeryBravePiggy
    VeryBravePiggy 24 November 2015 18: 36
    +7
    What are Turks compared to the splendor of nature (to paraphrase Schweik)?
    Planet Earth will be very upset if there is another desert?
    Burn to xeram. And about "peaceful Turks" ... As Lt. US MC Nathaniel Fink said in Iraq, "I did not ask the locals to mix with terrorists."
    The life of a Russian citizen is dearer to me than the whole of Turkey. You can recall the Chechen art to them, to the heap. Without fur coats and jeans, we will live quite well.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 November 2015 18: 40
      +6
      Quote: VeryBravePiggy
      What are Turks compared to the splendor of nature (to paraphrase Schweik)?
      Planet Earth will be very upset if there is another desert?
      Burn to xeram. As for "peaceful Turks" ... As Lt. US MC Nathaniel Fink said in Iraq, "I didn't ask the locals to mix with terrorists."

      Man! In Turkey, at the moment, our citizens are with women and children. Your quote from Schweik is not at the cash register at all.
  • Dry_T-50
    Dry_T-50 24 November 2015 20: 31
    0
    Quote: Korvo
    Quote: Temples
    what will make the GDP in this situation

    Personally write on the gates of the Turkish Embassy insulting word wink

    Vali from the site. The Rabinovich Adepts are not the place
  • Werterex
    Werterex 25 November 2015 01: 13
    +1
    Writers! Get ready for war. And may our hearts not freeze and our hand tremble ....
  • Streich
    Streich 24 November 2015 16: 50
    11
    And what do you think, they are white and fluffy. No, this is the same Amer’s bastard only closer to Russia. The Caribbean crisis was actually due to Turkish missiles. (Amrov missiles, but in Turkey) I think now it just might not pass. Let's see, I think not for long.
  • Zamachus
    Zamachus 24 November 2015 17: 04
    15
    I completely agree .. the scientists are still those who worked with them for about 10 years, smiling sweetly in your face behind your back, doing everything for a turn East is a delicate matter and this must be taken into account Tighten all business in Russia
    1. Prokop
      Prokop 24 November 2015 17: 41
      +5
      Quote: Zamachus
      I completely agree .. the scientists are still those who worked with them for about 10 years, smiling sweetly in your face behind your back, doing everything for a turn East is a delicate matter and this must be taken into account Tighten all business in Russia

      Why clamp? castrate immediately. Completely. Destroy completely all the works, send all the property, seize all the enterprises, cripple all unreliable ones before expulsion, cripple completely !!!
    2. Sanmak
      Sanmak 25 November 2015 04: 46
      +1
      Quote: Zamachus

      I completely agree .. the scientists are still those who worked with them for about 10 years, smiling sweetly in your face behind your back, doing everything for a turn East is a delicate matter and this must be taken into account Tighten all business in Russia


      Throughout its existence, the Turks have been, are and will be the enemies of Russia !!! I spoke about this from the very beginning of this nonsense, called the South Stream, but here many people did not agree with me !!!
  • MstislavHrabr
    MstislavHrabr 24 November 2015 17: 05
    16
    The situation is very complicated. Turks control the straits. And they hope to chop off part of Syria, at least. The first thing that needs to be done is to get all our tourists out of there, so that they don’t fall into a deal ... And give an order to bring the nuclear forces on high alert. I think it will be a certain sign ...
    1. Canep
      Canep 24 November 2015 17: 25
      12
      Quote: MstislavHrabr
      And give orders to bring nuclear forces on high alert
      I think they have already been put on FULL combat readiness and are entering the area of ​​combat use. Putin: "... if a fight is inevitable, hit first."
      1. Kolesnikoff.dmitr
        Kolesnikoff.dmitr 24 November 2015 20: 43
        0
        The Strategic Missile Forces of Russia are ALWAYS in a state of full combat readiness! Only an order for use is needed, and in less than an hour one nuclear ashes will become.
    2. opus
      opus 24 November 2015 17: 27
      10
      Quote: MstislavHrabr
      I think it will be a certain sign ...

      Turkish riot police surrounded Russian consulate in Istanbul
      To protect law and order after the incident with the Russian Su-24, Turkish riot police surrounded the Russian consulate in Istanbul.

      It is reported by Sky News.


      ===================================
      Incident For the first time (officially) since 1950, NATO forces shot down a Russian (Soviet) military aircraft.
    3. skeket
      skeket 24 November 2015 17: 52
      +2
      Quote: MstislavHrabr
      The situation is very complicated. Turks control the straits. And they hope to chop off part of Syria, at least. The first thing that needs to be done is to get all our tourists out of there, so that they don’t fall into a deal ... And give an order to bring the nuclear forces on high alert. I think it will be a certain sign ...

      Here I am about the same thing ... It is demonstrative to start transferring long-range aviation from the Far East to the South-East Military District, and from the Northern Fleet and the Baltic, strike ships to Middle-earth. Let Oland and Merkel start the bustle in Minsk 3 ...
      You can’t just leave it like that, tomorrow someone else will knock down, if they allow ...
      1. Sanmak
        Sanmak 25 November 2015 04: 50
        0
        skeket SU Yesterday, 17:52 ↑

        Wait, do not forget about banderled, also those with ** and !!!
    4. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 24 November 2015 18: 32
      +2
      And how many times will we get by with signs alone? They then succumb to us with a crowbar, but we are all signs. Shame.
      1. sniper
        sniper 24 November 2015 19: 15
        +2
        Quote: Tambov Wolf
        They then succumb to us with a crowbar, but we are all signs.

        If our drying worked under the guise of fighters, then it would have been possible to shoot down a Turk and everything would have been right ... And so ... most likely ours did fly into Turkey, the place is so shitty ... Turkish territory is like a cape to Syria, the width of a kilometer is only three ... So we just have to, what to punish them in a different way. But I’m sure that they won’t think enough ...
  • Sterlya
    Sterlya 24 November 2015 17: 14
    24
    Turks, bitches, were and remain, buggers.
    1. Siberia M 54
      Siberia M 54 24 November 2015 18: 01
      +4
      I totally agree.
  • maxcor1974
    maxcor1974 24 November 2015 17: 18
    17
    In my opinion, everything is much more complicated. I think this provocation is authorized by the State Department, this is their move against Russia. According to the Strait Treaty, if martial law is introduced in Turkey, they have the right to stop shipping through the Bosphorus. Thus, the main forces of our fleet remain in the Mediterranean. Further, an attack of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbas with a simultaneous collision by NATO from our group in Syria is likely. The calculation of 3,14ndos on the complexity of warfare on the 2 front ...
    I am sure the Turks would never have decided on such an adventure on their own. The answer is now for Putin, I hope that it will be as tough as possible.
  • captain dvv
    captain dvv 24 November 2015 18: 11
    10 th
    We won’t do anything. Beat always beaten. The deputy speaker, answering the direct question of the correspondent, can this case be considered as an act of aggression against Russia (as it is under article 51 of the UN) and urged not to escalate the situation.
    1. Rostov
      Rostov 24 November 2015 20: 02
      +5
      Quote: captain dvv
      The deputy speaker has already answered the direct question of the correspondent whether this case can be considered as an act of aggression against Russia (which is the case under article 51 of the UN) urged not to escalate the situation.


      A man without a name is not tryndi and do not distort other people's words! Do you think that one is following the news now? These creatures like you breed dirt and fabrications.

      Now on to the point. After reading a bunch of comments, I found that no one mentions factthat the Moscow Region immediately after the attack on our plane stated that it was shot down from the ground. Although the Moscow Region immediately knew for sure that it was shot down by a Turkish fighter (aviators, can you refute this?). From this I conclude that they were waiting for an explanation, they say an error occurred, etc. etc. That is, ours gave them a chance to save their ass. Now it remains only to wait that specifically will follow the words of GDP.
    2. Proud.
      Proud. 24 November 2015 20: 24
      0
      Quote: captain dvv
      We won’t do anything. Beat always beaten. The deputy speaker, answering the direct question of the correspondent, can this case be considered as an act of aggression against Russia (as it is under article 51 of the UN) and urged not to escalate the situation.

      Do not need your condition to endure, transfer to all.
  • Soviet Union
    Soviet Union 24 November 2015 19: 58
    0
    These creatures (NATO and similar Turks) can only spoil from under the silence ... shameful creatures ... well, nothing, Turks, you still get yours!
  • Ded_smerch
    Ded_smerch 24 November 2015 20: 37
    10
    Here they offer such a topic
  • Aqela
    Aqela 24 November 2015 20: 46
    0
    Found something to be surprised! Find some examples in Turkish history when they did wrong.
  • yehat
    yehat 24 November 2015 21: 58
    -3
    in vain do you hurry to blame the Turks.
    they could be provoked by star-striped friends
    1. Sanmak
      Sanmak 25 November 2015 04: 54
      -1
      Quote: yehat
      in vain do you hurry to blame the Turks.
      they could be provoked by star-striped friends


      Do you yourself believe in that ???
  • Skif83
    Skif83 24 November 2015 16: 42
    46
    Well, we have experience with asymmetric responses.
    It is necessary imaginary.
    And by and large, Erdogan needs to be erredogan so that he was even afraid to think against Russia, at the same time, on the Tureks ’note, let everyone know that Russia will not be in debt, the era of the Eltsin and the hunchback has sunk into the summer!
    1. Korvo
      Korvo 24 November 2015 16: 47
      92 th
      Quote: Skif83
      It is necessary imaginary.

      What do you think the "Putin era" can do?
      1. Mikhalych 70
        Mikhalych 70 24 November 2015 19: 01
        0
        Caspian Sea doesn’t seem to be locked? Like almost all the allies? A salute to dr Darkest flew from there?
      2. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 24 November 2015 20: 42
        0
        Quote: Korvo
        Quote: Skif83
        It is necessary imaginary.

        What do you think the "Putin era" can do?

        Aah ... Gavkin Putin rode?
      3. Sanmak
        Sanmak 25 November 2015 04: 56
        0
        Quote: Korvo
        Quote: Skif83
        It is necessary imaginary.

        What do you think the "Putin era" can do?


        Well, for you, Russia of the era of humpback and ebony is naturally better than the era of Putin !!!
    2. Yuri from Volgograd
      Yuri from Volgograd 24 November 2015 17: 09
      13
      Quote: Skif83
      Well, we have experience with asymmetric responses.
      It is necessary imaginary.
      And by and large, Erdogan needs to be erredogan so that he was even afraid to think against Russia, at the same time, on the Tureks ’note, let everyone know that Russia will not be in debt, the era of the Eltsin and the hunchback has sunk into the summer!

      Imaginative especially do not need to strain.
      First ban Turkish resorts for Russians
      Secondly, ban imports from Turkey
      Thirdly, to put Greece serious air defense systems, because Turks often fly into Greek territory.
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 24 November 2015 17: 20
        10
        Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
        First ban Turkish resorts for Russians


        you don’t have to forbid anything ... you just need to warn that the Russian Federation cannot provide security guarantees to its citizens in Turkey ...
        1. dr. sem
          dr. sem 24 November 2015 18: 56
          +4
          Precisely "forbid"! Children are not given matches. Psychos are not given rights. "Poorly politically savvy" tourists do not give the opportunity to ditch themselves to a fool ...
        2. goblin xnumx
          goblin xnumx 24 November 2015 19: 00
          +2
          so you propose that the government simply says, guys, we are nobody and if something happens you don’t call us, we won’t help you anyway, we know that it is so, but what would they say about it, yes
      2. Belousov
        Belousov 24 November 2015 18: 06
        +2
        Shtatniks will not allow the Greeks to buy them. Kneading between their servants is not included in their plans.
      3. Roman Skomorokhov
        Roman Skomorokhov 24 November 2015 19: 23
        +3
        Quote: Yuri from Volgograd
        In the third to put Greece serious air defense system,


        Cyprus is very C-300 requested. And Cyprus is not in NATO.
    3. SMikhalych
      SMikhalych 24 November 2015 22: 48
      0
      Quote: Skif83
      Well, we have experience with asymmetric responses.
      It is necessary imaginary.

      There are already prestressed:
      "The Russian Defense Ministry also announced that military contacts with Turkey will be terminated. In addition, the Moskva cruiser equipped with the Fort air defense system similar to the S-300 will occupy an area in the coastal part of Latakia. All targets for aviation RF potential danger will be destroyed. In addition, all actions of the RF strike aviation in Syria will be carried out only under the cover of fighter planes. "
      Read more: http://news.tut.by/world/474161.html
  • lukke
    lukke 24 November 2015 16: 44
    +2
    Lavrov just rushed to Sochi in Putin
    But did he have a planned visit to Ankara for tomorrow ?!
    1. dr. sem
      dr. sem 24 November 2015 18: 57
      +1
      Has already stated - "canceled" ...
  • Inok10
    Inok10 24 November 2015 16: 46
    44
    .. the Turks forgot the Chesme battle after which the fleet ceased to exist .. it's time to remind .. wink
    1. SibSlavRus
      SibSlavRus 24 November 2015 17: 42
      +2
      And, in my opinion, the Turks are just now particularly painfully recalling 1877-78.
      And not the fact that England is now able to help them.
    2. Prometey
      Prometey 24 November 2015 18: 54
      -1
      Quote: Inok10
      .. the Turks forgot the Chesme battle after which the fleet ceased to exist .. it's time to remind ..

      Are the Japanese 1905 to us?
    3. anton197103
      anton197103 24 November 2015 22: 33
      0
      Now it would not hurt! It's time to go!
  • WKS
    WKS 24 November 2015 16: 47
    26
    Instead of establishing contacts with us, the Turkish side turned to NATO for consultations.
    And this speaks of obvious confusion and fear. Rather, hide under the skirt of the "mother". It looks like this Erdogan wants to get NATO approval for his participation in the conflict on the side of terrorists.
    1. Ribwort
      Ribwort 24 November 2015 17: 04
      +7
      Quote: wks
      And this speaks of obvious confusion and fear.

      Not at all. What this says we will most likely find out tomorrow from Western news. Already there, this situation will be painted in such a way that we still have to "unfortunate" Turks and have to pay compensation.
      1. dr. sem
        dr. sem 24 November 2015 19: 00
        +1
        By itself. "EMPIRE OF LIES" is not asleep, CNN and other zhurn.sh.lyushki have already sharpened their feathers ... We are waiting for PASTES ARE LARGE AND LESS ... Not the first time.
    2. 16112014nk
      16112014nk 24 November 2015 18: 18
      +2
      Quote: wks
      And this speaks of obvious confusion and fear.

      I agree. When the boys, playing football in the yard, fall into the window instead of the gate, they do not run to the owner of the window with explanations. And they scatter to their apartments, and the "sniper" runs the fastest.
  • Now we are free
    Now we are free 24 November 2015 16: 49
    37
    Well, that's the BLOW. And this blow is more terrible guys "Calibrov" V.V.P. very competently linked -NATO as a servant of ISIS ...
    Thanks to ... Erdogan, the United States and Co. will lose the sky of Syria, Turkey can welcome Independent Kurdistan, NATO's symbiosis with ISIS is already clearly highlighted (NATO member Turks shot down a Russian Air Force aircraft and "Moderate rebels" are riding on the corpses of Russian pilots) now the whole world saw it so Recep p ... someone else that you are fighting ISIS ...
    And yes, and "Caliber" will be guys, a little later ...
    1. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx 24 November 2015 19: 01
      0
      really hope
    2. dauria
      dauria 24 November 2015 21: 19
      +1
      Thanks to ... Erdogan USA and Co. will lose the sky of Syria,


      How is this? Do not let the Americans fly, will we shoot down? What, two regiments of aircraft gathered to gain supremacy in the air gathered? And Assad’s decisions are not a decree for them; THEY do not recognize him as a legitimate president. The question is simple, we agree for the sake of Assad to fight with the United States. And the Americans put this question rib specially by Erdogan’s hands.
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  • paxil
    paxil 24 November 2015 16: 52
    15
    Quote: Baikonur
    Instead of establishing contacts with us, Turkey immediately turned to NATO, as if it was we who shot down their plane, and not vice versa!

    Yes, everything was just outrageously, apparently the provocation had already been prepared for a long time, well, I think, not without the participation of the United States. But is it not time for people not to go on holiday to Turkey? Have a rest in their native spaces is enough to sponsor the Ottomans.
  • 222222
    222222 24 November 2015 17: 11
    +2
    23.11.2015, 22: 14
    The head of the European Council, Donald Tusk, said that the meeting of the leaders of the European Union and Turkey on the migration crisis and improving relations between the EU and Ankara will be held on Sunday, November 29, in Brussels. He wrote about this on his twitter.

    “I convene the EU-Turkey summit on Sunday, November 29, at 16.00 (18.00 Moscow time). The goal is to give an impetus to our relations and limit migration flows, ”Tusk wrote.
    According to him, "the decision was made after a positive recommendation of the European Commission and a telephone conversation this evening with [Turkish] Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu."

    ..Word ..for FRANCE ....
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 17: 50
      15
      Quote: 222222

      ..Word ..for FRANCE.

      France prostitute, do not expect anything from a corrupt whore
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      2. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 24 November 2015 18: 39
        +3
        Not only a prostitute, but no warriors either. The Germans took half a country in a week, the rest surrendered themselves. One de Gaulle croaked something from behind a hill.
  • Kirito
    Kirito 24 November 2015 21: 02
    0
    But what's the use of these harsh words, if our pilots died (I do not want to believe it) sad
    This is called, fucking gotten into a friendship with the Ottomans! Does anyone think that after numerous wars with these geeks in the history of Russia they will forget everything? And in exchange for gas, tourism, etc. will become our friends fool Yes, these animals didn’t even pull the sheep’s skin ... and here is the result.
    Done planned, vile and vile attack on our plane! What the hell is an unfriendly act wassat , spit in a person-unfriendly act, and this is aggression angry. And the answer should be appropriate am ...
  • Anton Valerevich
    Anton Valerevich 25 November 2015 11: 46
    0
    Putin gave Turkey a chance to apologize for his act, pay material damage for a downed plane, pay compensation to the families of pilots and bring terrorist accomplices to court, but the court, according to Davutoglu, Turkey intends to continue to do so.
    Actually, if this incident goes unpunished, it will mean that any country involved in NATO has the right to shoot down Russian planes anywhere in the world, justifying its action with the interests of national defense. This is a very dangerous precedent!
  • Quager
    Quager 24 November 2015 16: 52
    +7
    Striped tentatively attack with a round, a pawn is kakly - for them the whole world is a chessboard. You just have to stop playing by their rules!
    1. ArhipenkoAndrey
      ArhipenkoAndrey 24 November 2015 17: 08
      14
      And you look at history, Turkey, this pawn, the British always moved against Russia and Turkey, as a rule, raked to the fullest what we’ll see now, of course I wouldn’t want a war, but you can’t let this go, and any Turkish plane flying into Syrian airspace Now it must be shot down, Turkey is an integral part of ISIS, there is no doubt about it.
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 24 November 2015 18: 03
      +3
      Quote: Quager
      Striped tentatively attack with a round, a pawn is kakly - for them the whole world is a chessboard. You just have to stop playing by their rules!


      But we have the queen ... and let their black king hide behind his pawns and tours ...
    3. anton197103
      anton197103 24 November 2015 22: 36
      0
      That's right, it didn’t work in Syria, so let’s wage a war with us with someone else’s hands, I’m afraid that this is only the beginning.
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    1. Grabberxnumx
      Grabberxnumx 24 November 2015 17: 12
      19
      Well, or something like that - the new flag of ISIS am
    2. Angler
      Angler 24 November 2015 19: 10
      +2
      I looked at the inscription on the flag, and I remembered, turkey - not Turkey, but Turkey is translated from English. Do not believe? Open Lingvo. Perhaps the most stupid and pompous bird.
      1. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 24 November 2015 20: 44
        0
        Quote: Sea Devil
        I looked at the inscription on the flag, and I remembered, turkey - not Turkey, but Turkey is translated from English. Do not believe? Open Lingvo. Perhaps the most stupid and pompous bird.

        There is still a cock, but it is to the Baltic
  • Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 24 November 2015 17: 02
    +2
    Media: The Russian Mi-24 helicopter shot down in Syria
    The Russian Mi-24 helicopter was shot down in Syria, Reuters reports November 24 citing the Syrian Observatory of Human Rights.

    One group of militants fighting in Syria said the helicopter was shot down by an anti-tank missile. The vessel was urgently landed in the province of Latakia.

    Recall that in search of the crew of the downed Su-24, Mi-8 and Mi-24 combat helicopters were sent. Reported that in the crash of the Su-24 killed both pilots, reports SkyNews.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 17: 07
      11
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Media: The Russian Mi-24 helicopter shot down in Syria

      This is not the media, but the ISIS dump in London reports.
      1. TSOOBER
        TSOOBER 24 November 2015 17: 55
        0

        something like this,!
      2. Rus2012
        Rus2012 24 November 2015 21: 59
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        This is not the media, but ISIS

        ...Alas:(
        24.11.2015, 21: 05

        From the speech of the Chief of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, Lieutenant General Sergei Rudsky, before the media on November 24 of 2015.
        In order to evacuate Russian pilots from the landing site, a search and rescue operation was conducted involving two Mi-8 helicopters. During the operation, one of the helicopters as a result of fire from small arms was damaged and made an emergency landing in neutral territory. One contract Marine died.

        The actions of the search and rescue team and the helicopter crew were evacuated and are currently located at the Khmeimim air base. The helicopter was destroyed from the territory controlled by the gangs with mortar fire.


        Will be avenged! And she will be terrible ...
        They write -
        Erdogan is now really in a panic - from this appeal to NATO, where he was frankly sent to deal with Moscow directly, they understand another careless move or word - "Iskander" and "Caliber" will speak and not at all in the usual performance ... also "stand backwards, smoke a pipe" ... not aisles.

        He, they say, doesn’t exclude even a missile attack on Ankara, right around his palace, from that convulsive movements in other directions (it’s clear that tourism is now there, and economic cooperation too - and there’s such money compared to which the fuss with stolen oil - so, a small pocket gesheft).


        And even the knowledgeable write -
        In Syria, C-400 joined, which is not officially there. According to an informed source, the complex "leads" all Turkish military fighters near the border with Syria.
        There was no order to shoot down so far, but it could arrive any second as soon as Russia considers that Turkish fighters crossed the Syrian border at 5-10 seconds, the source said ...

        A strange coincidence of two events - the Russian marines taking a certain height in Syria, which immediately pulled the air defense radar, and the subsequent downing of the Russian Su-24 Turkish F-16. You do not see the connection? And yet she is. Why did Russia need this height so much right now that, as they say, a battalion of marines with T-90 tanks was said to have been thrown at its assault — they did not wait until the Syrians took this mountain (and the Syrians tried to take it, they even put a battery of Mst howitzers to help them -B)? Obviously, we know something, and the S-400 air defense system at this height was able to significantly change the balance of power in favor of Russia. But the IG does not have aviation, which means that the intervention of forces with aviation is expected. They were ahead of them, the radar started working, clearly showing “we see you, don’t hope to slip through” - this was the irritation that erupted in firing at the Russian bomb, returning to the base. Or is it not annoyance, but an attempt to squeeze the situation in such a way, push the Turkish military against the wall - "yes, now the strike has become suicide, but you have nowhere to go - only the war will write everything off."
    2. user1212
      user1212 24 November 2015 17: 32
      +2
      Quote: Scandinavian
      with reference to the Syrian Observatory of Human Rights.

      This "organization" has already been repeatedly seen in blatant lies
  • remy
    remy 24 November 2015 17: 32
    +5
    Turkey deliberately shot down a Su-24, since the Russian Air Force’s operation against ISIS prevents Ankara from trading oil with terrorists.
  • Otshelnik
    Otshelnik 24 November 2015 17: 39
    +3
    Two idiots, Erdogan and Davitoglu set up Turkey! I won’t be surprised if tomorrow it turns out that these two are agents of the mossad or the CIA.
    I went on the front and looked at what ordinary, normal Turks write, and so, Erdogan and his team are called fools and they also write that most likely the go-ahead was given by the Anglo-Saxons and Zionists. And there is an understanding that the answer will be a tribute!
    Again, as always, everyone is at war with each other and the Anglo-Saxons and Zionists collect cream!
  • 78bor1973
    78bor1973 24 November 2015 18: 12
    0
    The Turks forgot about "Rymnik", "Fokshany", "Izmail", etc. It's time to remind these marginalized NATO members of this!
  • Rus2012
    Rus2012 24 November 2015 18: 40
    +4
    Quote: sannych
    "Turkey = ISIS = terrorism". Vladimir Putin.


    ... the Air Force needs to give 10 days for free dismantling with the barbarians!
    Bomb - do not regret it! Think of the PRTB in Hmeimim ...

    To the Fallen Heroes - Eternal Sky!

    Let's drink with you for Victory!
    She will come - wait a bit!
    Below is our home, and this is our sky!
    We won’t give it to anyone!
  • Maxom75
    Maxom75 24 November 2015 20: 29
    +1
    Erdogan’s power and greed for money have lost their minds? ((((
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  • Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 26 November 2015 07: 25
    0
    NATO + Turkey = ISIS
  • the most important
    the most important 24 November 2015 16: 29
    42
    Quote: Saratovets
    One of Putin’s toughest statements in all 16 years of rule !.
    GDP we are with you!

    It’s time to show who is the boss in the house !!!
    1. Russian Moldavian
      Russian Moldavian 24 November 2015 16: 31
      15
      Putin is furious, kaput to the Turks
      1. tomket
        tomket 24 November 2015 16: 35
        -1
        Quote: Russian Moldovan
        Putin is furious, kaput to the Turks

        Yeah. The Qatars will join the rolled up in the sand any minute ....
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 24 November 2015 18: 12
          +8
          I would very much like to ask our commanders-in-chief of all ranks: why do our bombers fly without the cover of exterminators ?!
          And it would be a great observer if our pilots shot down a Turkish interceptor.
          And now we again act in the role of patience ...
          I involuntarily remember "She drowned"
          1. ICT
            ICT 24 November 2015 18: 56
            +3
            Quote: Stroporez
            why our bombers fly without cover


            relaxed, at first it seemed like flying with cover. then settled down like
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 24 November 2015 19: 21
              +5
              Quote: TIT
              relaxed

              Because of such relaxations, we have two two hundredths and a lost plane am
          2. Lieutenant colonel
            Lieutenant colonel 25 November 2015 03: 00
            0
            There from the cover only 4 30 and everything, like. There was a recent article about "Kuznetsov" - they say why we need it there - that's the answer, why! His air wing would have covered our guys once.
      2. kepmor
        kepmor 24 November 2015 16: 44
        21
        "... this grandmother said in two more ..."
        Not so simple in this world!
        But if it happens, as with the "Kursk", then the kapets will not be for the "Janissaries", but for us ...
        The "moment of truth" has come ... for VVP and for all of us!
        1. Victor Demchenko
          Victor Demchenko 24 November 2015 17: 05
          +3
          let’s look, as Uncle Izya said when Aunt Sarah was dragged to the barn.
          and more: revenge is a dish you need to eat cold! Mario Puzo, The Godfather.
      3. Finntroll
        Finntroll 24 November 2015 18: 26
        +1
        I also thought so, I can hear from my voice that he wants to yell at me ..... but no way because politics and especially GEO policy requires a cold head.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 24 November 2015 16: 36
      23
      Quote: the most important
      It’s time to show

      She will show you with deeds, I think, now I don’t need to talk about all the upcoming actions. The main thing he said: Today's event will have very serious consequences for Russian-Turkish relations.
      1. WKS
        WKS 24 November 2015 16: 42
        25
        It is time for Constantinople to regain its historical name.
        1. kil 31
          kil 31 24 November 2015 16: 45
          19
          Quote: wks
          It is time for Constantinople to regain its historical name.
          I will correct you a little Constantinople, our shields are idle.
          1. Babalaykin
            Babalaykin 24 November 2015 18: 21
            0
            if that happens then New Constantinople ...
          2. JAJAJA
            JAJAJA 25 November 2015 03: 15
            0
            Yes you are right!!!


            HERE is the prophecy of the holy elder Paisius


            “When the Turkish fleet opposes Greece and reaches six miles, it will be completely destroyed.”

            “This is the will of God; Examily will be the beginning of the end.”

            “This will be the beginning of those events that will lead to the return of the City (Constantinople).”

            “The city will be given to us as a result of the war between Russia and Turkey.”

            “At first, the Turks will think that they will win, but it will be destruction for them.”

            “The Russians will ultimately win and Constantinople will fall into their hands.”

            “Then we (Greeks) will get it back; Russians should give it to us.”

            He explained to some other pilgrims, "The Turks will be destroyed and wiped off the map forever, because it is a country that does not have God's blessing."

            “Turkey will be divided into three to four parts.”

            “Time is already counting down.”
        2. vorobey
          vorobey 24 November 2015 17: 01
          +8
          Quote: wks
          It is time for Constantinople to regain its historical name.


          Istanbul you want to say. I am for. drinks
          1. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 17: 24
            +3
            Quote: vorobey
            Istanbul you want to say. I am for.

            It was he who used an abbreviated way of expressing thoughts. I did not paint that it is Istanbul now. In Russian, such sentences are not always immediately clear. For example, one reader wrote: "Our oil tankers began to bomb, oil tankers - so the Turks rock the boat ...". It sounds like ours, Russian oil tankers, but in fact, Turkish ISIS.
            Brevity is not always the sister of talent.
          2. Dry_T-50
            Dry_T-50 24 November 2015 20: 45
            0
            Maybe all the same Constantinople?
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    3. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 24 November 2015 16: 47
      -1
      I don’t know how true the information is - therefore only a link.
      Chelyabinsk.ru source confirmed that a pilot from Chelyabinsk was killed in Syria
      http://chelyabinsk.ru/text/newsline/104013387517952.html
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 17: 32
        +3
        Quote: Dryuya2
        I don’t know how true the information is - therefore only a link.
        Chelyabinsk.ru source confirmed that a pilot from Chelyabinsk was killed in Syria
        http://chelyabinsk.ru/text/newsline/104013387517952.html

        And how can the media in Chelyabinsk know which pilot died? Information about those killed in the RF Ministry of Defense is a state secret. Here you go, you can already take journalists by the trunk and torture them in the "dungeons of the NKVD", and find out who sold them the state secret. You can reveal a truly sabotage organization in the ranks of our army.
        1. kil 31
          kil 31 24 November 2015 18: 00
          +1
          Maybe relatives or friends recognized. They called, but the subscriber is not available or picked up the phone and told. I just don’t know by law that the media have the right to publish this without the agreement of the Moscow Region
  • Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 24 November 2015 16: 30
    26
    Putin: we were stabbed in the back. Assassins of terrorists hit
    1. Enot_33
      Enot_33 24 November 2015 16: 31
      161
      A couple of thoughts right now.

      First of all. Let's not flog a fever, though. In a situation where one pilot has already been killed for sure, and with another it is not known what, it is difficult, but nevertheless, one should not flog. Second. No one will immediately rush with statements, but after a few hours, most likely, the position will be cleared up. Third. The reactions to such things are varied. For example, these Kurdish women indulge in hiking not in Iraq or Syria, they are in Turkey. If, in addition to PKMs, they suddenly have purchased "Cornets", "Needles" and "Grads" from no one knows where, who will be surprised. And finally, the fourth. Having got involved in the war in the Middle East, we got into a snake box. Then everyone had fun, because we have not killed anyone yet, but now there are victims, and you don't need to fall into shock, their appearance - it was a matter of time. There is nowhere to go, wine is on the table, you will have to drink it and not complain that it is sour. It is unrealistic to leave such a place without being bitten. And yes, it is very likely that this is the first, but not only not the last, but also not the most terrible misfortune that will befall us in connection with the conflict. You need to understand that this is both a sea of ​​costs and a serious risk for people. That now we have shot down a plane in Syria, and tomorrow the market in Vladikavkaz, a subway car in Moscow or a trolleybus in Volgodonsk may explode again. I am not saying that this will necessarily happen, but it can happen. I would like to believe that this is the last death, but reason tells us that it is not. I have always said and continue to say: war is not a courtesy, and this is not a show, this is not a game, this is not an Internet shit. This is a process where people kill people in large numbers, purposefully and permanently, this is the dirtiest and most terrible thing in life. And you shouldn't take it as a carnival. But it doesn't matter anymore, because we are already at war. And now Russia does not have many options for action, in fact, only one: to win it.
      1. sssla
        sssla 24 November 2015 16: 33
        +5
        Quote: Enot_33
        unknown to another

        I don’t know for sure the truth or not, but here’s what I read
        1. Alim-1975
          Alim-1975 24 November 2015 16: 50
          37
          If it turns out that the second pilot died, this will be confirmation that Su 24 did not cross the border. Those. sweeping tracks.
          1. Army1
            Army1 24 November 2015 17: 26
            +1
            Of course it is
        2. opus
          opus 24 November 2015 17: 49
          +5
          Quote: sssla
          I don’t know for sure the truth or not, but here’s what I read

          The second parachute was added. It did not "fly" like that
          Here is the original video from al jazeera:




          a photo:


          There is nothing about al second on al jazeera.

          by SN our looking for:

          ==========================================


          Quote: sssla
          If it turns out that the second pilot died, this will be confirmation that Su 24 did not cross the border

          Judging by the clucking of these, one surely died ...


          ----------------------------------------------
          "Eternal memory to the soldiers who fell on the battlefield"



          we have mourning, kaklov must have a holiday today
          1. opus
            opus 24 November 2015 18: 02
            +3
            Quote: opus
            Kaklov must have a holiday today

            the main dog has already been marked



      2. kit-kat
        kit-kat 24 November 2015 16: 38
        +1
        Well, actually, yes. I support this opinion.
      3. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 24 November 2015 16: 44
        +2
        Well written, namesake. good
      4. Alim-1975
        Alim-1975 24 November 2015 16: 46
        +8
        One of the most reasonable judgments about this situation. I fully agree.
      5. Koresh
        Koresh 24 November 2015 16: 50
        +7
        I think there will be an agreement with the Kurds in exchange for autonomy in Syria. And this will be a signal for the Kurdish workers' party launched to undermine Turkey from the inside. The weapons will go by river to Turkey. It would be like an answer to test electronic warfare systems against Turkish aircraft. So they can’t directly blame that the plane was shot down and not incapacitated with the help of MANPADS or missiles.
        1. SibSlavRus
          SibSlavRus 24 November 2015 17: 57
          0
          If we begin to use electronic warfare against the Turks, then this will minimize, if not exclude, the loss of Kurds from the Turkish Air Force, and accordingly their activation. Do I understand you correctly?
      6. EvgNik
        EvgNik 24 November 2015 16: 54
        20
        Quote: Enot_33
        now there are victims, and there is no need to fall into shock, their appearance - it was a matter of time

        There is a war. Victims are inevitable. But. It is important here who stabbed in the back. It seems to be an ally in the fight against ISIS. That's exactly what seems to be. Turkey made money from the oil traded by ISIS. We have stopped these oil deliveries at least partially. Therefore, I consider the destruction of our aircraft intentional and, moreover, provocative.
        1. TVM - 75
          TVM - 75 24 November 2015 17: 17
          +2
          The Turks were only looking for a reason to stab in the back. They feed on ISIS and they do not want to lose such a feeder. Two-faced with mattresses.
      7. Geo73
        Geo73 24 November 2015 17: 08
        +2
        Undoubtedly it’s not worth flogging a fever. I think now they will begin to squeeze the Turks through contacts along the line
        Foreign Ministry with the Kurds. Dale. They will achieve the return of the pilots. NATO recognition of Turkey’s lack of support
        further termination of diplomatic relations with Turkey and the continuation of the operation in Turkey. God help the children and all
      8. Mugerets
        Mugerets 24 November 2015 17: 15
        +1
        War is not without loss.
      9. opus
        opus 24 November 2015 17: 55
        +2
        Quote: Enot_33
        Russia now doesn’t have many options,


        SALE OF TOURS TO TURKEY SUSPENDED FROM 24.11.2015 YEAR




        I think this is not the last operator so stated
        IN RUSSIA 17: 41, 24 November 2015
        Russian Foreign Ministry recommended that Russians not visit Turkey
      10. anton197103
        anton197103 24 November 2015 22: 45
        0
        Yes, Russia was forced to get involved in the war, and this is for a long time, and this is the beginning, it doesn’t happen in another way, and it’s not at all easy, but there is no other way ....
    2. JAJAJA
      JAJAJA 25 November 2015 03: 21
      +1
      We will also hit by chance - in the prophecy of the holy elder Paisius


      "God will help: it will be in the interests of the greats of this world so that Constantinople becomes Greek."

      "The Turks will challenge Greece, it will be a provocation against the maritime borders."

      “Since these provocations will last for a certain period, we will starve for months.”

      “And then we will evaluate our bread and say: not bread, but bread.”

      “You must have small plots of land and cultivate them to help those who will not have anything.”

      “When,” he says, “you hear on television the topic“ of miles, of lengthening miles in the zone of the sea coast, then you will understand that the war is approaching

      To be continued … ".

      “After the provocation of the Turks, the Russians will go down to the Straits (Bosphorus and Dardanelles), but not in order to help us. They will have their own interests (link on the topics: Russia acts in Syria as it does in Crimea - Fox News; Crimean scenario for Syria; The plot with “Russian troops in Syria” begins to become clear; How Runet (Russian Internet) searched for Russian troops in Syria; The photo collection “We are not there - 2” or the Russian army in Syria.; The Russian Foreign Ministry responded to Kiev’s plans to control flights from Russia to Syria; American media reported seven flights of Russian transporters to Syria, etc. events are developing every day !)
      but themselves unwilling, they will help us (the Greeks). ”

      “The Turks will defend the Straits (Bosphorus and Dordonella) because they are of strategic importance and will bring new troops there.”

      “In parallel, they will not withdraw forces from the occupied territories.”

      “Then other European states - England, France, Italy and six more, seven states of the European Union will see that Russia occupies part of the territories and say:

      “Can’t we and we go there, take some piece of land?” Everyone will want to grab the lion's share. So Europeans will enter the war. ” (related link: NATO: reports on Russia's military activity in Syria will worry the alliance)

      “The Greek government will decide not to send troops there. Greek troops will guard their borders. ”

      “It will be God's blessing that our (Greek) troops will not participate in the war. For everyone who enters this war will perish. ”

      “Turkey will receive a blow from the North. It will be a great catastrophe, but Greek blood will not be shed. As for Constantinople, it will be ruled by Russians, Greeks and Europeans. This thunderstorm will reach Israel, and then the Jews will realize their mistakes. "

      “The Russians will understand the plans of Turkey and Turkey as a state, disappear from the map: because one third of the Turks will become Christians, one third will die, and one third will go to Mesopotamia.”

      “When you hear that the Turks block the waters of the Euphrates in the upper reaches of the dam and use them for irrigation, then know that we have already entered the preparation of the great war ...” (link on the topic: A new war against Syria. Turkey blocked the Euphrates)

      “The Middle East will be the scene of wars in which Russians will take part. A lot of blood will be shed, and even the Chinese will cross the Euphrates River, having 200.000.000 army, and reach Jerusalem. ”

      "Russia will continue the war after the death of Turkey all the way to the Persian Gulf and stop the troops near Jerusalem."
  • Rrrj
    Rrrj 24 November 2015 16: 30
    144 th
    Quote: Saratovets
    One of Putin’s toughest statements in all 16 years of rule !.
    GDP we are with you!

    Loose henchmen - where is the stiffness here?
    "Vladimir Putin added that he understands that different countries have their own regional interests, and said that Russia will never tolerate such attacks, one of which against the Russian Federation occurred today."
    It already happened yesterday with the A321, it happened today - it’s dead.
    1. sever.56
      sever.56 24 November 2015 16: 40
      83
      Quote: rrrj
      Loose henchmen - where is the stiffness here?


      Listen, "encrypted" under an incomprehensible flag, even without a name, city and country of residence - it's not up to you to judge how Russia should act, and what our President said!
      Sit and fart yourself slowly wherever you are.
      I think that the majority of PEOPLE on the site support me.
      With disrespect ...
      1. Rrrj
        Rrrj 24 November 2015 16: 57
        45 th
        Quote: sever.56
        Listen, "encrypted" under an incomprehensible flag, even without a name, city and country of residence - it's not up to you to judge how Russia should act, and what our President said!

        Nes I’m trying to prove anything to you here. The main thing - I am Russian - everything is the point
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            1. Rrrj
              Rrrj 24 November 2015 17: 58
              -8
              Quote: rrrj
              And the second: you and Girkina-Strelkova dragged with a bang - and those who kicked him were called fools and minded ... And now that the urapatriots have cooled down?
              PS. Sneeze for cons - at least shut up.

              And what are the cons so few eh? I ask - I ask everyone ...
              1. Rrrj
                Rrrj 24 November 2015 18: 22
                -2
                Quote: rrrj
                And what are the cons so few eh? I ask - I ask everyone ...

                "... and if the Turks will continue to behave this way, then Russia will be forced to use means of suppression and electronic warfare and raise special-purpose aircraft to protect our pilots from shelling, ”the general said
                This is for you, dear hi
              2. sssla
                sssla 24 November 2015 18: 32
                +2
                Quote: rrrj
                And what are the cons so few eh? I ask - I ask everyone ...

                Think head and not head
            2. SibSlavRus
              SibSlavRus 24 November 2015 18: 02
              +6
              Now any criticism of our President is no longer relevant. The main thing is that we are ready to rally around our national leader and support him with any punitive decisions.
              The war is declared to us, we have accepted the challenge.
              1. captain dvv
                captain dvv 24 November 2015 18: 44
                -5
                Quote: SibSlavRus
                Now any criticism of our President is no longer relevant. The main thing is that we are ready to rally around our national leader and support him with any punitive decisions.
                The war is declared to us, we have accepted the challenge.


                How did we accept the challenge?
        2. kotvov
          kotvov 24 November 2015 17: 42
          +9
          The main thing - I am Russian - everything is the point ,,
          Vlasov residents also called themselves Russian, are you one of them?
        3. sniper
          sniper 24 November 2015 17: 49
          +7
          Quote: rrrj
          The main thing - I am Russian - everything is the point

          What in the family is not without a freak ...
          1. Rrrj
            Rrrj 24 November 2015 18: 01
            -4
            Quote: sniper
            What in the family is not without a freak ...

            Well done - and not without fools - who today shout cheers, and tomorrow they disown their words.
          2. Korvo
            Korvo 24 November 2015 18: 04
            11 th
            Quote: sniper
            What in the family is not without a freak ...

            Dear, what are the criteria ?, we can have a test, I ask for myself, so to speak, to detect ugly Russianness in the bud!
            1. sniper
              sniper 24 November 2015 18: 16
              +8
              Quote: Korvo
              and what are the criteria ?,

              Conscience, basically ... Current you do not understand ...
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                1. sssla
                  sssla 24 November 2015 18: 35
                  +4
                  Quote: Korvo
                  tell me better

                  "RrrJ" I wrote and I will not be lazy to you !!
                  Think with your head and not your head and fifth point !!
                  1. Rrrj
                    Rrrj 24 November 2015 18: 52
                    -1
                    Quote: sssla
                    Think with your head and not your head and fifth point !!

                    These are all their arguments - everything is clear.
              2. Oleg14774
                Oleg14774 24 November 2015 19: 34
                0
                Quote: sniper
                Conscience, basically ...

                Good afternoon, long time no see!
                1. sniper
                  sniper 24 November 2015 19: 49
                  -1
                  Quote: Oleg147741
                  , long time no see!

                  Glad to meet you, my friend! It’s a pity that the occasion is not too painful ...
                  1. Oleg14774
                    Oleg14774 24 November 2015 20: 17
                    +1
                    Quote: sniper
                    Glad to meet you, my friend! It’s a pity that the occasion is not too painful ...

                    Yes, the guys are sorry, ashamed to admit, but ... I almost cry. It's a shame that there was no reason to beat in the back. But Erdogan’s personal family grievances, plus the accusation of the United States and our people, are not!
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 24 November 2015 18: 48
        +3
        I support you Valery. Interestingly, for some reason my minus to this "encrypted" one did not work.
        1. Rrrj
          Rrrj 24 November 2015 18: 53
          0
          Quote: Balu
          I support you Valery. Interestingly, for some reason my minus to this "encrypted" one did not work.

          Trying poorly - gygy.
          Oh laughter, if it weren’t sad - medley.
      3. Baloo
        Baloo 24 November 2015 18: 48
        +2
        I support you Valery. Interestingly, for some reason my minus to this "encrypted" one did not work.
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    3. sssla
      sssla 24 November 2015 18: 31
      +4
      Quote: rrrj
      Loose henchmen - where is the stiffness

      Do you need to be a mat from Putin’s lips and throw a boot into Recep’s face (su ka) Erdogan ???
      1. Rrrj
        Rrrj 24 November 2015 18: 55
        -5
        Quote: sssla
        Do you need to be a mat from Putin’s lips and throw a boot into Recep’s face (su ka) Erdogan ???

        Dear Quote: skeket already wrote what could be done (read below):
        Coexistence is about nothing ... Where are the military units on alert?
        1. Roman Skomorokhov
          Roman Skomorokhov 24 November 2015 19: 36
          +2
          Quote: rrrj
          Where is bringing military units to combat readiness?


          And where did you get that it is not? You did not write in contact?
  • sever.56
    sever.56 24 November 2015 16: 31
    53
    Quote: Saratovets
    One of Putin’s toughest statements in all 16 years of rule !.

    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/930/slts877.png
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  • Wiruz
    Wiruz 24 November 2015 16: 35
    +7
    And what the hell is Turkey a NATO member? After all, only now is this a deterrent. Although ... There was information, they say, a couple of hours after the incident there was an urgent telephone conversation between the GDP and the top of NATO ... Who knows what they were talking about ?! Maybe NATO itself is already tired of Erdogan’s policies, and there’s just the chance to punish the old Turk ?! However, enough to fantasize. And so soon we will find out request
    1. sever.56
      sever.56 24 November 2015 16: 47
      +9
      Quote: Wiruz
      And what the hell is Turkey a NATO member?


      She is not a member ... The EU will not take it for any price, but NATO only keeps her because of her advantageous geographical position. By the will of fate, or the flaws of our ancestors and the opposition of the "Englishwoman" - Constantinople and the strait ended up in the hands of the Ottomans ...
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    3. bulvas
      bulvas 24 November 2015 16: 49
      +5
      Quote: Wiruz

      And what the hell is Turkey a NATO member?


      The main reason is strait control

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    5. Oleg NSK
      Oleg NSK 24 November 2015 16: 49
      +5
      ".... Turkey is a NATO member? After all, this is the only deterrent now."

      ... I think that is not it ... but, first of all, tens of thousands of Russian tourists in Turkey ...
    6. Was mammoth
      Was mammoth 24 November 2015 17: 29
      0
      Quote: Wiruz
      And what the hell is Turkey a NATO member? After all, only now is this a deterrent.

      Yes, NATO will not fight for Turkey. Not that case. Even if Turkey had not been a member of NATO, then there would not have been a full-scale war. And, that’s what will be, I don’t know.
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      1. atalef
        atalef 24 November 2015 17: 39
        +8
        Quote: Belousov
        This Nata will run under the bed and for the baseboards when the real batch starts

        no one knows who and how will lead
        The Turks were shot down. and the eggs seemed to be enough and they didn’t climb into the refusal (although they could all the more since the first version of the Russian media was - they shot down MANPADS) - but no. immediately said that they didn’t deceive - how do you explain?
        1. Belousov
          Belousov 24 November 2015 18: 13
          +2
          Su-24 from MANPADS at 6 km.? Well, a very left excuse, even for Tang mongrel.
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 24 November 2015 21: 26
            0
            Well, they kind of climbed a mountain ... and jumped before a shot.
      2. the most important
        the most important 24 November 2015 18: 03
        +2
        Quote: Belousov
        Spaniards and Portuguese will be able to get off with supplies of bandages and greenbacks.

        Or maybe just send plastic bags for corpses ...
      3. Dikson
        Dikson 24 November 2015 18: 30
        0
        Look at least at the ratio of the NATO Air Force and Russia ... The numerical superiority is multiple. The only option in this batch is to spite mom to freeze her ears and take as many enemies as possible to the next world ...
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 24 November 2015 16: 35
    23
    Quote: Saratovets
    One of Putin’s toughest statements in all 16 years of rule !.
    GDP we are with you!

    Such a statement does not bode well for the GDP. And equating the actions of the Russian president of the Turks with the actions of ISIS says a lot. Moreover, everything was agreed with the NATO side, which means now the Kremlin clearly said that for us the Turkish armed forces are no different from ISIS. obvious.
  • just exp
    just exp 24 November 2015 16: 38
    18
    God forbid that in the future, in response to this, there would be not only tough statements.
    and there would also be real steps, whereby such steps would be pissed off by the rest at the mere thought of how to do similar with respect to Russia.
  • Wiruz
    Wiruz 24 November 2015 16: 40
    +7
    Now, of course, it’s not a joke, but, with all my deepest respect for Comrade Shoigu, I now very regret that our Minister of Defense is not Volfych. smile
    1. Mareman Vasilich
      Mareman Vasilich 24 November 2015 16: 51
      13
      Comrade, it was a provocation and expected actions are expected from us, such as either we wave a saber or wipe snot. We are also not fools sitting on top and thinking how to strike back, but not the same as expected from us. But such options miscalculated.
    2. 0255
      0255 24 November 2015 17: 00
      +5
      Quote: Wiruz
      Now, of course, it’s not a joke, but, with all my deepest respect for Comrade Shoigu, I now very regret that our Minister of Defense is not Volfych. smile

      Want to give real power to a political clown saying the right things from time to time?
  • kit-kat
    kit-kat 24 November 2015 16: 40
    13
    But where did you see the stiffness? A very restrained, given the circumstances, statement. And it is right. In this situation, it’s hot and you can break firewood. We must consider revenge. I hope she follows.
    1. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 24 November 2015 16: 49
      +7
      I don’t understand, if our planes accompany the Su30, then why didn’t they answer in response to the Turkish f16 ????
      1. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 24 November 2015 20: 33
        +1
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        I don’t understand, if our planes accompany the Su30, then why didn’t they answer in response to the Turkish f16 ????

        And he walked alone and there was no escort, strange however, and even on Syrian territory, only there he caught up with chtol ???
    2. Hyppopotut
      Hyppopotut 24 November 2015 17: 39
      +3
      Comrade Stalin used to say: "Revenge is a dish that must be served cold" ...
  • 020205
    020205 24 November 2015 16: 49
    14
    It smells of war and not hard pronouncements! Turks have taken a root in the root, I will go to the draft board first!
  • vladimirw
    vladimirw 24 November 2015 16: 52
    +7
    It would be a really tough response with a demonstrative mass bombing along the Turkish border! hi
  • Ribwort
    Ribwort 24 November 2015 17: 00
    +6
    Quote: Saratovets
    One of Putin’s toughest statements in all 16 years of rule!

    If only all this were not limited to statements. If you leave unanswered, the answer PAID for Turkey, you no longer have to talk about any respect in the world.
  • 79807420129
    79807420129 24 November 2015 17: 02
    11
    It’s difficult to comment on what will happen, especially after such a stab in the back, Erdogan’s prank, you can ban, but I think this scammer is a scumbag, but something will happen. VVP is furious and we, this hoop Erdogan, are even worse than Petka on the territory it’s just an American six, and this tombstone seemed to be sane.
  • Tor5
    Tor5 24 November 2015 17: 07
    +5
    While these are all "words, words, words ...".
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  • SibSlavRus
    SibSlavRus 24 November 2015 17: 13
    +6
    Dear President of the Russian Federation!
    Now, more than ever, you have the support of the entire population of Russia and its allies.
    God grant that your words do not part with the deed!
    What would Russia-Great Russia be called!
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  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 24 November 2015 17: 27
    +1
    The Turkish side turned to NATO for consultations.
    It seems they themselves were scared in earnest. Revenge must be terrible, this must not be let go on the brakes ...
    1. Army1
      Army1 24 November 2015 17: 33
      +2
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      The Turkish side turned to NATO for consultations.
      It seems they themselves were scared in earnest. Revenge must be terrible, this must not be let go on the brakes ...

      I do not care about Turkey, history has shown that this is a rotten state, I feel sorry for the pilots, I would have avenged our pilots and I think it will be so!
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 24 November 2015 17: 45
      +3
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      Revenge must be terrible

      There will be bargaining
      1. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 24 November 2015 18: 53
        +2
        You wrote it right. Our traders with NATO traders will talk about the price. We’ll follow it, mumbles and shame. If you leave this business without a military strike on the Turks, then we will all be considered bastards.
  • starshina78
    starshina78 24 November 2015 17: 27
    +6
    The words ! The words ! Where is the action? It is urgent to stop all relations with Turkey, remove all tourists and not travel to Turkey anymore, break off economic ties, and reconsider all economic ties with Turkey. And in the military sense, use all available electronic warfare equipment so that even cellular phones in Turkey do not work, and all electronics burned out on take-off planes.
  • Army1
    Army1 24 November 2015 17: 30
    +3
    It is clear that there was a provocation, the best option when the Kurds will appear MANPADS, and much more, very sorry for the pilots, my condolences
  • Boatsman_Palych
    Boatsman_Palych 24 November 2015 17: 30
    +1
    What is the stiffness? Some subjunctive moods ...
  • Rezistant
    Rezistant 24 November 2015 17: 36
    +4
    Yes, from today, it seems, everything will be called by its name. Turkey has no excuse. GDP, we are with you!
  • Oleg14774
    Oleg14774 24 November 2015 17: 38
    +2
    Quote: Saratovets
    One of Putin’s toughest statements in all 16 years of rule !.
    GDP we are with you!

    I looked at the speech of the GDP and the thought flashed through that he knew all this in advance (not with this aircraft and not today). I think that everything has already been calculated and the verdict will be harsh. Our analysts are smarter from us, and if the guys here supposed such a thing, then at the top they only expected it.
    I don’t feel sorry for Erdogan or for a long time, dogs' dog life. I think it will be done so that the Americans themselves deal with them. And it will be aerobatics.
  • skeket
    skeket 24 November 2015 17: 40
    +8
    Quote: Saratovets
    One of Putin’s toughest statements in all 16 years of rule !.

    Coexistence is about nothing ... Where are the military units on alert? Where are the direct questions to the Turks demanding an immediate response? Where is the demonstrative pulling of troops to the southern borders of the Russian Federation?
    I do not call for a full-scale war, but menacingly to raise eyebrows and bristle with bayonets should be ...
    1. Rrrj
      Rrrj 24 November 2015 17: 56
      -2
      Quote: skeket
      Coexistence is about nothing ... Where are the military units on alert?

      Be careful with such statements - urapatriots do not approve, sir. I've already been blown away ...
    2. Camel
      Camel 24 November 2015 20: 50
      -1
      skeket: Where are the military units on alert? Where are the direct questions to the Turks demanding an immediate response? Where is the demonstrative pulling of troops to the southern borders of the Russian Federation?

      Excuse me, but with both of you (even RrrJ below) plans for the transfer of troops to the Southern Military District have not been coordinated? Didn't you endorse the orders to bring the troops into increased / full combat readiness? If this is true, then perhaps we should shout "Help!" - after all, Skeket and RrrJ observe the complete inaction of the Russian command! And they do not just observe, but also state !!
      PS Yes, I forgot to note the absolute inactivity of the diplomatic corps - Lavrov did not submit a report on the measures taken to the Internet commentator skeket, hence the complete indifference of the Russian Foreign Ministry to the situation!

      Skeket, did you imagine the reaction of the Russian government like that?
  • Finches
    Finches 24 November 2015 17: 44
    +5
    Tomorrow we must check the alarming suitcase for completeness ...
  • captain dvv
    captain dvv 24 November 2015 18: 04
    +4
    It looks like another concussion. An act of aggression occurred (51 UN article). For this, normal people beat on a cheeky face without words about betrayal, etc.

    I don’t understand what all of these missile launches, flights of YES and so on were for, if some Turkey is trampling us into the mud.
    1. Rrrj
      Rrrj 24 November 2015 18: 17
      -2
      Quote: captain dvv
      I don’t understand what all of these missile launches, flights of YES and so on were for, if some Turkey is trampling us into the mud.

      Ah - I, too - read every day - rejoiced for success, but here it is on you ...
  • alexbg2
    alexbg2 24 November 2015 18: 15
    +3
    A stab in the back, this is so in Turkish!
  • YARUSSIAN39
    YARUSSIAN39 24 November 2015 18: 24
    0
    As we all know, GDP does not throw words into the wind, so kapets to the Turks
  • saturn.mmm
    saturn.mmm 24 November 2015 18: 33
    +1
    Quote: Saratovets
    One of Putin’s toughest statements in all 16 years of rule !.
    GDP we are with you!

    And it seemed to me that he was complaining to reporters.
    1. Secta haki
      Secta haki 25 November 2015 18: 47
      +1
      Rather, it was "a person can be seen" ...
  • Lenin
    Lenin 24 November 2015 18: 37
    +2
    Quote: Saratovets
    One of Putin’s toughest statements in all 16 years of rule !.
    GDP we are with you!

    Destroy all rebels and other shushara indiscriminately.
  • tyras85
    tyras85 24 November 2015 18: 43
    +1
    The statement is tough. I look forward to a HARD response, REALLY! Military pilot sniper. Your land.
    Saratov !!!
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    1. Rrrj
      Rrrj 24 November 2015 19: 50
      0
      Quote: captain dvv
      And all the unloved Medvedev did not say anything in 2008 but brought in troops and solved the problem.

      Plus - I talked about this many times.
  • Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 24 November 2015 19: 00
    +1
    Quote: Saratovets
    One of Putin’s toughest statements in all 16 years of rule !.
    GDP we are with you!



    Where ??? belay Saying "Ay-yay-yay" to Turkey is a tough statement ??? Yes, "soaking in the toilet" is tougher.

    In general, as a kid, I had to say: "Okay, * s, hang yourself" !!!!!
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 November 2015 19: 09
      +2
      Quote: The Cat
      In general, as a kid, I had to say: "Okay, * s, hang yourself" !!!!!

      There is a diplomatic language. Putin is not in the doorway with Erdogan "bending his fingers." The essence is the same in his words. Listen carefully to his speech.
      Now more than ever, the issue of the strength of the grouping in the Crimea and the Black Sea Fleet is urgent in order to keep the Turkish Navy in sight.
      1. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 24 November 2015 19: 23
        +2
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: The Cat
        In general, as a kid, I had to say: "Okay, * s, hang yourself" !!!!!

        There is a diplomatic language. Putin is not in the doorway with Erdogan "bending his fingers." The essence is the same in his words. Listen carefully to his speech.
        Now more than ever, the issue of the strength of the grouping in the Crimea and the Black Sea Fleet is urgent in order to keep the Turkish Navy in sight.



        Now is not the time for diplomacy. If we now give slack, then the rest will raise their heads. Now we need to smear with all the dope. But that did not lead to the 3rd World War (the last).
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 24 November 2015 19: 29
          +3
          Quote: The Cat
          Now we need to smear with all the dope.

          For our women and children, who are vacationing in Turkey, should you smother? people in Turkey, and there are many of them.
          1. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 24 November 2015 19: 48
            -1
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: The Cat
            Now we need to smear with all the dope.

            For our women and children, who are vacationing in Turkey, should you smother? people in Turkey, and there are many of them.



            And I talked about "women, children"? Someone earlier suggested covering 100 km from the border with carpet bombing. I do not agree with that. But if there is no response, and there is no one right away, it will be a big blow to the country's reputation.


            Although on the other hand recourse , I was watching a conversation with the king of Jordan ... Somehow Putin is very calm ... Isn’t everything according to a pre-planned scenario ??? recourse This "zhzhzhzhzh" is not casual ...
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 24 November 2015 19: 58
              +4
              Quote: The Cat
              But if there is no answer, and there will not be one right away, then this will be a big blow to the country's reputation.

              The response should have been immediately, WHILE ACCEPTED by the bombers by our fighters. There was no escort, and now it will be "waving fists after a fight." Erdogan can and should be punished.
              1. Ze Kot
                Ze Kot 24 November 2015 20: 30
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                Quote: The Cat
                But if there is no answer, and there will not be one right away, then this will be a big blow to the country's reputation.

                The answer should have been right away, WHEN the bomber was escorted by our fighters


                Also an option. But for the future.
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 24 November 2015 20: 26
    +1
    in short, the Turks need to be reminded of Plevna and Nikopol and Ishmael and Sarykamysh.
  • Valiich
    Valiich 24 November 2015 20: 53
    +1
    It's a pity the pilots have already finished one of the militants. VKS, long-range aviation, from the sea 10-fold increase the attack and fly for the guys!
  • observer
    observer 24 November 2015 22: 24
    +1
    totally agree
  • igor.borov775
    igor.borov775 25 November 2015 01: 08
    +2
    Sorry for the guys, The worst thing is they did not expect such meanness. They were sure that this was a friendly gesture of an ally. They had already met with other planes more than once, but no one had expected such a meanness. They hit me very close range. Everything fell into place, now all this loud coalition can be safely asserted and did not really fight with ISIS. After all, Turkey is officially involved in this company. Remove those who allowed themselves to encroach on larger incomes. They are boldly mixed with the earth. That's the whole fight, and even bombed the positions of the Syrian Army. They settled there very comfortably. And we threw up and began to destroy on the black those whom they defended. This was already in the last century. Nothing changes.
  • Lt. Air Force stock
    Lt. Air Force stock 24 November 2015 16: 28
    27
    One must take revenge, best symmetrically ...
    1. silver_roman
      silver_roman 24 November 2015 16: 31
      24
      symmetrically - not enough !!!!!
      1. Russian Moldavian
        Russian Moldavian 24 November 2015 16: 33
        10
        which symmetrically, KNEE to put presumptuous janissaries,
      2. rasputin17
        rasputin17 24 November 2015 16: 38
        +5
        Now there is a reason to introduce funds on the glands! hi
        1. Kasym
          Kasym 24 November 2015 17: 31
          +5
          Remember that the Westerners shouted: "Assad must leave!"
          Now we need to promote our media: "Erdogan must leave, as an accomplice and sponsor of terrorism. The evidence is obvious: caravans with oil and a downed plane." Shout at every corner and at all venues. Erdogan must become an outcast.
          The GDP will not be beaten now - there are too many hostages on the beaches of Turkey. We must look at the reaction of Europe. Hollande & Co. from this they simply "got lost" - "but how can one punish for Paris without the Russian Federation?" Washington tightly framed Erdogan. Now they will try to drive a wedge between the Russian Federation and the EU, especially if the Russian Federation begins to punish the Turks by force. Therefore, GDP will not be beaten now. hi
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 24 November 2015 21: 30
            +1
            Is Istanbul OUR?
      3. SibSlavRus
        SibSlavRus 24 November 2015 17: 21
        +3
        Quote: silver_roman
        symmetrically - not enough !!!!!


        True, few. But asymmetrically, to a state of irreparable damage - that’s it.

        The Ottomans have long deserved to go into oblivion.
        History repeats itself in its cyclical development.
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    1. Saratovets
      Saratovets 24 November 2015 16: 31
      23
      This is an occasion for a total sweeping of the territory.
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        1. Hon
          Hon 24 November 2015 16: 44
          +9
          Quote: Russian Moldovan
          RUSSIAN TOURISTS ALL HOME, THROW THIS TURKEY, IT A TRADING COUNTRY !!!!!!!!!!!

          spit out to most
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          2. Nikoha.2010
            Nikoha.2010 24 November 2015 17: 27
            +1
            Quote: Hon
            spit out to most

            Recently passed information: Natalie Tours has stopped selling tours to Turkey./Russia 24/
            Or maybe they just play it safe?
            1. Wedmak
              Wedmak 24 November 2015 17: 45
              +8
              Most yes, but not all.

              Tez tour also does not recommend booking tours. It seems to most just do not sneeze. But we will wait for clarification of circumstances and official reaction. I hope it will be tough.
              And if the X-16 suddenly flies to the air force base in Turkey, from where the F-101 flew, I will be completely satisfied. Although of course dreams.
              1. Hon
                Hon 24 November 2015 17: 49
                0
                Quote: Wedmak
                Tez tour also does not recommend booking tours.

                went to the website tez tour, the first in the search engine Turkey
        2. Yaroslavl
          Yaroslavl 24 November 2015 16: 44
          +6
          All right, leave the bastard country
        3. DIVAN SOLDIER
          DIVAN SOLDIER 24 November 2015 16: 50
          +2
          And she was never a friend.
        4. Korvo
          Korvo 24 November 2015 16: 54
          -9
          Quote: Russian Moldovan
          SHE A TRADING COUNTRY

          Some kind of nonsense! Whom did she betray enlighten?
          1. Tambov Wolf
            Tambov Wolf 24 November 2015 19: 00
            -2
            Putin betrayed. She was a "partner", they were going to make money together, and then nakosya vkusi. Here are our guarantor's "partners", "friends" and "bros". The people have long known that our country lives in surrounded by enemies. Some authorities think that there are "comrades" around.
        5. aiden
          aiden 24 November 2015 17: 12
          +3
          everyone who rests there is an accomplice of terrorists. I have never traveled outside the Russian Federation for my life and am not going to
          1. Island
            Island 24 November 2015 17: 55
            -1
            not a very dubious achievement
        6. kit-kat
          kit-kat 24 November 2015 17: 12
          +7
          She is not a traitor. Whom did she betray? They are just enemies. They were, are and will be, if not destroyed.
  • PQ-18
    PQ-18 24 November 2015 16: 29
    19
    ISIS was initially "in the service of NATO" ...
  • Xroft
    Xroft 24 November 2015 16: 31
    10
    Shoot down the plane that shot down our dryer, or strike at the airfield from where the flight was made. The most objective answer.
  • Trigger-Happy
    Trigger-Happy 24 November 2015 16: 31
    +7
    Nobody will beat NATO planes now, it’s sore heads can only imagine this. The answer will be anyway, the president said and he will do it, but by other methods, I’m sure!
    1. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 24 November 2015 16: 36
      26
      Quote: Trigger-Happy
      The answer will be anyway

      Kurdistan to be !!!! yes
      1. ICT
        ICT 24 November 2015 17: 37
        0
        Quote: Dryuya2
        Kurdistan to be !!!!


        if they had united themselves then he would have been a long time ago. without any help. like here igil exists, but there will be no Kurdistan
      2. kit-kat
        kit-kat 24 November 2015 17: 57
        0
        ))) Subtle. Do you think our ships will soon go through the strait, asking permission from the Kurdish People’s Republic?
      3. sem_juver
        sem_juver 24 November 2015 19: 23
        +2
        Do you think Kurdistan will be better than Turkey? The same scum!
        1. kit-kat
          kit-kat 24 November 2015 19: 48
          0
          to the USSR they were well treated.
          1. sem_juver
            sem_juver 25 November 2015 10: 49
            0
            Turkey was well treated towards the USSR and Turkey at the time of Ataturk; it received good money from Russia with the prospect of building socialism, and then once behind NATO! Now something like this is happening.
    2. Xroft
      Xroft 24 November 2015 16: 39
      20
      So NATO planes can bring down ours? next time some sort of Estonian Air Force plane will be knocked down by our strategist over the Baltic will there be the same reaction? .... or will Poland attack planes over Kaliningrad?
      This position leads to defeat.
      If there is no answer, wait for further and insolent provocations. Kaliningrad, Crimea, Transnistria. Ukraine will definitely take note if there is no answer, let alone their curators.
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      2. EvgNik
        EvgNik 24 November 2015 17: 05
        +4
        Quote: Xroft
        So NATO planes can bring down ours?

        I agree with your position, the answer must be mandatory and I think it will be. But Paths is a person with non-standard thinking, and the answer may turn out to be non-standard and tougher than even we think.
      3. aiden
        aiden 24 November 2015 17: 16
        +2
        it’s dangerous to shoot down a strategist if he’s armed
        1. KUOLEMA
          KUOLEMA 24 November 2015 17: 47
          +5
          I’m also sure that if we now release everything on the brakes, then our planes will begin to shoot down everywhere we need an answer, but what
        2. biznaw
          biznaw 24 November 2015 18: 24
          0
          Quote: aiden
          it’s dangerous to shoot down a strategist if he’s armed

          What's the difference?
          1. KaPToC
            KaPToC 24 November 2015 21: 32
            0
            The difference is that the strategist can then accidentally shoot nuclear missiles.
  • Wedmak
    Wedmak 24 November 2015 16: 31
    40
    For a statement, we are waiting for action. This should not pass without a trace for the Turks. And on the part of the common people, I urge you not to go to Turkey on vacation. They showed their face, do you really want to sponsor the aggressor and provocateur with your money?
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 24 November 2015 16: 56
      12
      That's right .. everyone who buys tickets to Turkey now would personally bring their wounded pilots to their wives children and mothers! Go to Sochi to Crimea to Lake Baikal, to Karelia .. there are a million places in our country where beauty and nature are simply indescribable, no splash in warm water and eat freebies .. shame !!!
    2. 31R-US
      31R-US 24 November 2015 18: 17
      +2
      And who is stopping whom in the regions listed by you to create the same "freebie" there is nature, there is warm water, there is a current of mountains. NO SERVICE, and if you take the hotels in Sochi on the seashore built for the Olympics, then only a select few with a good wallet go there.
      Many times I had a rest in Turkey and forgot what "loperamide" is. For patriotic reasons with both hands "for" the ban on tourism to Turkey. I think it will be so in 2016.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 November 2015 16: 31
    47
    I listened to the GDP statement on TV. Clearly, without diplomatic tricks, he called Turkey an accomplice of terrorists. The statement is tough, but right to the last detail. We will look at the development of events, but it seems that the situation is starting to develop worse than the Caribbean crisis.
  • Eltempo23rus
    Eltempo23rus 24 November 2015 16: 32
    +2
    Now we look what will happen next.
    1. Korvo
      Korvo 24 November 2015 16: 42
      41 th
      Yes, nothing will happen, a maximum of a couple of dozen more "oil tankers" will be burned! Because from the position of "cancer" and with a bare bottom it is difficult to do something.
      1. kepmor
        kepmor 24 November 2015 17: 17
        +8
        This is you probably about yourself, dear?
        For the whole country you don’t need to subscribe!
      2. Sanmak
        Sanmak 25 November 2015 05: 28
        0
        Quote: Korvo
        Yes, nothing will happen, a maximum of a couple of dozen more "oil tankers" will be burned! Because from the position of "cancer" and with a bare bottom it is difficult to do something.



        You probably showed your attitude to Russia in all its glory !!! ???
        Apparently your "name" is still more correct to write through "y" !!!
  • Dikson
    Dikson 24 November 2015 16: 32
    +6
    Aviation of NATO countries is allowed to attack Russian aircraft in the airspace of Iraq, if they are seen there, in the event of a "threat to life" - that was back in October .... so they waited .. And in Syria, our aircraft will still be shot down .. the same our "allies" French .. Friendly fire, translation difficulties ... sorry for the guys .. in a good way - throw a couple of tactical charges there, To Syria, on the border with the Turks ... - just wait for the passing wind ...
  • scrap123
    scrap123 24 November 2015 16: 32
    14
    I think that the whole country is in solidarity with GDP
    1. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 24 November 2015 16: 41
      +1
      Quote: scrap123
      I think that the whole country is in solidarity with GDP

      I am in agreement and you are scrap123
  • GOGY
    GOGY 24 November 2015 16: 33
    27
    Turks like that jackal Tabaki - vilely bit from around the corner and ran to his Sherkhan, what should they do now? Jackals they are jackalsam Your word, comrade Mowgli! Judging by the interview, the GDP was furious, we are waiting for an answer from our angry
  • Next
    Next 24 November 2015 16: 33
    +6
    Correctly does that a lot of words do not throw on the screen. Actions (consequences) will speak much louder, I am sure they will be. Without fever and haste, we will answer ... If only the pilots survived.
  • architect
    architect 24 November 2015 16: 33
    +6
    said everything correctly now the response is important, for the Turks the Kurdish’s sore spot is that it is necessary to arm the Kurds so that the turkotnya’s blood smear
  • rasputin17
    rasputin17 24 November 2015 16: 35
    12
    They did nothing in vain! Just the consequences of this step slurp the Turks and their owners overseas will be out of work !! Speaking simply, the Turks acted like cheap larvae without understanding all the consequences of their move !!
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 November 2015 16: 44
      +2
      and their owners overseas will be out of business !!

      Which they have officially announced.
    2. igorka357
      igorka357 24 November 2015 17: 06
      +9
      So they are nits and so immediately ran to Natu for a consultation, and they trumpeted everyone about it, like they say look ... if something is a member of her ... this very Nata only they don’t understand that they are her female member .. and millet comrades from the Pentagon framed this member in front of Russia to see how the Russians will react .. Yes, it’s stupid to recognize Kurdistan and equip it before melt, instead of sending down our falcon, send twenty times more .. with a cover from the su-30, and without them nowhere .. then we'll see whose wives and mothers will howl at the graves of children and husbands !!!! Hollowing daish with tripled force chopping the oil that daishki sells to the Turks ... let Assad declare a useless zone over Syria and ask Putin to provide this !!! I’m just honestly furious !!! After all, there is a procedure for forcing a landing ... I consider this an open declaration of war .. it is a spit and an insult .. even if it flies for five minutes ... well, the nits are Turkish, I hope the GDP will respond firmly, but correctly !!!
  • Same lech
    Same lech 24 November 2015 16: 35
    +5
    The Russian Ministry of Defense has all the necessary evidence that the Russian plane did not enter Turkish airspace. According to Vladimir Putin, a downed bomber fell about 4 km from the Syrian-Turkish border - on Syrian territory.



    It is just necessary for the Kurds to help in the fight against the Turks ... supplying them with all the necessary weapons to fight the Turkish Air Force and Special Forces ... there are such possibilities and ERDOGAN must now think a hundred times before giving the order to destroy the Russian aircraft.
  • 1536
    1536 24 November 2015 16: 35
    +4
    And here the big question begs: do they want to put NATO at the service of ISIS or ISIS at the service of NATO? But one thing is clear, in the hypothetical scenario of the war, these two organizations will be together.
  • vk77
    vk77 24 November 2015 16: 35
    +6
    What are the chances of a su-24 before f-16? How did they so stealthily get to him then?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 24 November 2015 16: 41
      +7
      I'm more interested in where at that moment were our Su-30 and Su-27? Why the hell are they even needed there then? fool
      1. Same lech
        Same lech 24 November 2015 16: 48
        11
        Our VKS relied on the integrity of the Turks ... but in vain ... ERDOGAN was the last villain ....

        it is impossible to count in such cases that the enemy will forgive us our mistakes and we are here to make a big mistake with regard to the Turks; they are the same rotten .. yes like ISIS.
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      3. Firstvanguard
        Firstvanguard 24 November 2015 17: 04
        +2
        Quote: Wiruz
        I'm more interested in where at that moment were our Su-30 and Su-27? Why the hell are they even needed there then?

        They would have caught a Turkish missile with a net, and then would have shot down Turkish planes in Turkish airspace ???
        Я THE FIRST once I hear such words from GDP, a big batch started sad
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 24 November 2015 17: 10
          +4
          Quote: Firstvanguard
          I FIRST TIME HEAR FROM GDP such words

          Come on, in 2014 they called some and a bloody junta and illegitimate and other words, and nothing
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            1. Dikson
              Dikson 24 November 2015 18: 41
              -1
              Come on! Obama loudly for the whole world has set our country on the AXIS of EVIL, and do you think someone in the West and the UN is interested in whom he called GDP? Russia has never yet responded harshly and critically to attacks and provocations. Here the military people are mostly on the site. The attack and the downing of our military side, officially confirmed by the first persons of the state, is actually a declaration of war. So it has been at all times. We will chew snot. And wait. Because the gut is thin to start the Third World. Putin is a good president, but he is not Nikita ... I honestly expected that he was specifically at the UN Assembly. He smacks a shoe on the podium .. He softened .. In my recent opinion, in vain .. Now we have what we have ..
              1. Firstvanguard
                Firstvanguard 24 November 2015 19: 59
                +2
                Quote: Dikson
                Do you think anyone in the West and the UN is interested in whom they called GDP?

                It may not be of interest, but GDP has always adhered to the rules of diplomacy, without slipping to the level of these jackals. Balabama called us the axis of evil, but he didn’t miss the minutemans. Than confirmed his balaboluyu sooчschnost.


                Quote: Dikson
                Russia has never yet responded harshly and critically to attacks and provocations.

                Come on, 08.08.08/XNUMX/XNUMX forgot?
                It is not necessary to freeze a lot of crap. Knocking a shoe on the podium when you are the head of a superpower and have just fended off the last adversary trump card with your own, the same is not very surprising. It is much more difficult to confront an adversary who is stronger at times, who is absolutely unprincipled and ready to go to any meanness, who always tries to rake in the wrong hands and pit everyone and everything. When the main enemies of Russia in huge quantities inside Russia itself, moreover, its citizens, etc. Yap corn yarn pounded with a huge force, not created by him, but destroyed by him in the end. Putin, unlike Nikita, got a pair of embers from a huge bonfire and a large pile of ash.
                I would like to wish everyone especially smart to go in the shoes of GDP for another hour, and then wake up in a cold sweat and rejoice that it was only a dream.
      4. igorka357
        igorka357 24 November 2015 17: 09
        +2
        Just count the number of sorties, the bombing and the number of cover aircraft ... it’s physically physically impossible to cover everyone !!! I think in the next couple of days the Russian Air Force group will instantly increase, and the strikes will be tripled !!!
    2. Alexvl
      Alexvl 24 November 2015 16: 43
      +6
      No one expected it simply. They are constantly accompanied, as I understand it. Chances are few. Su-24 is a heavy bomber, not intended for maneuverable combat.
      1. igorka357
        igorka357 24 November 2015 17: 10
        +4
        You are mistaken .. there are few cover planes, it’s just not possible to cover everyone from the air, all the more so bombers in heavy duty work !!
    3. opus
      opus 24 November 2015 16: 48
      +5
      Quote: vk77
      What are the chances of a su-24 before f-16?

      nor any, even against the F-16C / D.
      1. Turkey has 50 or already 117 pieces of F-16 Block 50/52 (albeit of local assembly)
      AN / APG-68V5 (V7 and V8 since 2014)

      AGM-84, AGM-154, up to 4 missiles AGM-88, AIM-9X Sidewinder
      2.Moreover, against 2x F-16


      -------------------------------------------------- -


      1. Hyppopotut
        Hyppopotut 24 November 2015 17: 43
        -1
        So what? Scared a hedgehog naked w --- oh.
        1. opus
          opus 24 November 2015 18: 05
          +2
          Quote: Hyppopotut
          Scared a hedgehog naked w --- oh.

          Are you under the "naked w - and so on) yourself, perhaps?
          / Hedgehog is understandable, but with a bare one is not very?
    4. DIVAN SOLDIER
      DIVAN SOLDIER 24 November 2015 16: 54
      +4
      Yes ... la where is the cover ??? where is the reb ???
      1. tomket
        tomket 24 November 2015 17: 00
        +7
        Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
        Yes ... la where is the cover ??? where is the reb ???

        Circles are cut around "Donald Cook" ...
      2. Tambov Wolf
        Tambov Wolf 24 November 2015 19: 05
        +1
        The secretary of the guarantor in his hand.
    5. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 24 November 2015 16: 59
      +6
      Quote: vk77
      What are the chances of the su-24 before f-16

      No chance. None.
    6. Andru
      Andru 24 November 2015 17: 01
      +9
      Yes, which quietly picked up. This one walked on one side of the border, those on the other. As if each on his own business. And then he gives a volley.
    7. kit-kat
      kit-kat 24 November 2015 17: 58
      +5
      Well, what are the chances? He has a different purpose.
  • Ironmaniac
    Ironmaniac 24 November 2015 16: 35
    13
    And a dozen Turkish aircraft without permission over Greece flew it like?
    1. biznaw
      biznaw 24 November 2015 18: 29
      +1
      Quote: Ironmaniac
      And a dozen Turkish aircraft without permission over Greece flew it like?


      It flew ... The Turks set a precedent ... And Greece, too, in NATO ... the coliseum ... Putin thinks ...
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  • orphan 63
    orphan 63 24 November 2015 16: 36
    10
    Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, commenting on the incident with the Russian Su-24, said that Ankara has the right to answer in case of violation of its airspace.
    Davutoglu also added that Turkey will do "everything that is necessary" to ensure the country's security, "RIA Novosti reports.

    Original news RT in Russian:
    https://russian.rt.com/article/132329

    First Deputy Chairman of the State Duma Committee on Foreign Affairs Leonid Kalashnikov (Communist Party) proposes to suspend diplomatic relations between Russia and Turkey in connection with the incident with the Russian Su-24. “Economic relations with Turkey should be immediately frozen, and perhaps diplomatic relations should also be interrupted for some time,” Mr. Kalashnikov told TASS. Among the priority measures, the deputy suggested calling the Turkish ambassador in Moscow to the Foreign Ministry "and immediately recall our ambassador for consultations."

    PS: Oh, I do not like such an outright arrogance of the Turks ...........
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 24 November 2015 17: 15
      +8
      If you recall our call to Turkey ... the whole world will be offended, but you know why ... you yourself didn’t know if you called a sign of the imminent start of a declaration of war .. I would tickle the nerves of the planet and Washington mongers! In general, the communist correctly said .. economic and diplomatic to freeze, and to preserve a little deathly silence, let the creatures cold then come out .. we think over everything and answer !!!
      1. biznaw
        biznaw 24 November 2015 18: 31
        0
        Quote: igorka357
        If you recall our call to Turkey ... the whole world will be offended, but you know why ... you yourself didn’t know if you called a sign of the imminent start of a declaration of war .. I would tickle the nerves of the planet and Washington mongers! In general, the communist correctly said .. economic and diplomatic to freeze, and to preserve a little deathly silence, let the creatures cold then come out .. we think over everything and answer !!!


        Still it would be necessary to declare the mobilization and deployment of cropped parts.
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 24 November 2015 20: 52
          +1
          Quote: biznaw
          Still it would be necessary to declare the mobilization and deployment of cropped parts.



          Tipun to your tongue ... So NATO can foolishly immediately start the third world without waiting for anything ...
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  • Paul_
    Paul_ 24 November 2015 16: 37
    17
    It is necessary to rise against Turkey to all of us !!! Went to rest in Turkey? - I bought a gun for a terrorist. Do not buy Turkish fruits and vegetables, refuse the services of Turkish construction companies, do not fly their airlines. People, you can’t forgive those who took the lives of our guys !!!
    1. KUOLEMA
      KUOLEMA 24 November 2015 18: 09
      +3
      And to beat these goats faces in Russia that there are few Turks chtoli at hand
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  • Sergg
    Sergg 24 November 2015 16: 37
    +2
    De facto, we are at war with Turkey. It is necessary to ban the entry of Russian tourists to Turkey !!! And inflict a massive blow to the oil resources of ISIS!

    I have despised Putin lately, he knows how to make a worried face and that’s it! I don’t want to hear anything about him, I once believed him.

    Isil is a full-fledged NATO cell and Turkey’s trading partner I believe Putin, starting military assistance to Syria, in which I support the president of the Russian Federation, understood that he was going to play drafts. Nevertheless, he will take tough measures, besides expressing deep concern.
  • hartlend
    hartlend 24 November 2015 16: 37
    +4
    All repeats. Again, the arrogant hands of the Turks are trying to destroy Russia. It's time to join the Turkish region of Crimea.
  • YaMZ-238
    YaMZ-238 24 November 2015 16: 38
    +4
    We must recall General Skobelev and do the same with these Turks !!!
  • Dikson
    Dikson 24 November 2015 16: 39
    14
    There are VERY many Russian people .. any hard worker now - and they will start to be cut right in the hotels and on the streets, - women, children .. And if the Turks still will not allow them to be taken out ??! Already someone in the government raised the issue of the ban on flights to Turkey ..
    1. Saratovets
      Saratovets 24 November 2015 16: 50
      +5
      Let them leave, it’s already about 3 years since it’s clear that in Turkey there is nothing
    2. Alim-1975
      Alim-1975 24 November 2015 17: 08
      +5
      Absolutely right. But, unfortunately, few people think about this among those who leave comments. Everything is on emotions. I'm not an exception.
    3. aiden
      aiden 24 November 2015 17: 20
      +2
      nobody forcibly pulled them there. and the essence of the Turks has long been known
      1. Dikson
        Dikson 24 November 2015 17: 45
        +3
        And then forcibly pulled ?? People went on vacation to families ... Do you want to be shredded to pieces there? Children are to blame? There will be no power solution. The only possible answer was voiced by Satanovsky: to turn a strip a hundred kilometers wide on the Syrian border with Turkey into asphalt .. And regularly repair this asphalt .. I already wrote here: tactical charges with a favorable wind rose ..
        1. KaPToC
          KaPToC 24 November 2015 21: 36
          0
          People went with their families to relax in a state hostile to us! Are these our people? Maybe let them stay there?
    4. sem_juver
      sem_juver 24 November 2015 19: 34
      +3
      The Turks are excellent at mass killings of civilians, they have rich experience, so they definitely have to take their people out of Turkey, and then talk in an adult way.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 24 November 2015 19: 40
        +3
        Quote: sem_juver
        The Turks are excellent at mass killings of civilians, they have rich experience, so they definitely have to take their people out of Turkey, and then talk in an adult way.

        Exactly so ... and at the same time send after all the diplomatic mission of the Turks. In a few days, I think all the tourists will be taken out. And there will already be military steps, most likely. But we'll see ...
  • TAMERLAN 7
    TAMERLAN 7 24 November 2015 16: 39
    +1
    One of our pilot is dead - apparently shot himself. A wound to the right of the temple seems to be.
    [https://youtu.be/NVJ7Q097gXM]
    http://rusvesna.su/news/1448366241
  • quatro_globus
    quatro_globus 24 November 2015 16: 39
    +8
    A tough statement is just words anyway. We need a response! Symmetrically or asymmetrically. Otherwise, Russia will try to bend all and sundry ...
  • PKsh
    PKsh 24 November 2015 16: 39
    +3
    "revenge" is a dish that should be served cold soldier
    1. 31R-US
      31R-US 24 November 2015 18: 23
      +1
      Right as they say rush e fever
  • ermak.sidorov
    ermak.sidorov 24 November 2015 16: 39
    +1
    At a glance they write that our turntables were damaged by an anti-tank missile. Type made an emergency landing. Interesting - this is to the heap or during the rescue operation ...
  • veksha50
    veksha50 24 November 2015 16: 40
    +3
    "said that Russia will never tolerate such attacks, one of which took place in relation to the Russian Federation today "...

    Hmm ... These are the words ... Moreover, they are not very convincing for me personally, so I think, and for many Russian citizens ...

    From the President of the great (like many of us, and he himself believes) countries - too weak a statement ...

    Erdogan from him - did not put on his pants, but rather, calmed down ...
    1. Oprychnik
      Oprychnik 24 November 2015 16: 54
      +1
      Actually, in the original, he said crimes ...
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 24 November 2015 17: 38
        0
        Quote: Oprychnik
        Actually in the original he said crimes...


        Actually, in the original, I copied the phrase from the article ... Go back up, re-read the article ...
    2. user1212
      user1212 24 November 2015 18: 12
      +4
      Quote: veksha50
      Erdogan from him - did not put on his pants, but rather, calmed down ...

      Judging by the movement that, according to media reports, Erdogan has arranged both in himself and in NATO, he is far from calm. Consider the situation judiciously. GDP will not bomb Turkey. Nobody is going to unleash a nuclear conflict either. Now the main thing is to save the pilot, whose fate is not known, and to return the body of the deceased. Further, it is necessary to completely exclude the possibility of a repeated attack by the Turkish Air Force on our aircraft. So that the Turks do not even have such a thought. Even in fantasy. And then the network and, having thoroughly calculated everything, give an "answer".
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 24 November 2015 21: 00
        0
        Quote: user1212
        Take a reasonable look at the situation.



        Yes, in general, I try to look at her judiciously ... Maybe I should wait a bit with the president’s speech and think a little more about what and how to make Turkey so that it would be very painful, but not start a third world war .. .

        And personally, I do not like words that are not supported by action ... Although the movement has begun, it seems that tourism to Turkey has already covered itself ... Although it is not a season, but still ... And, I hope, this "brake" will not be momentary ...

        I understand that on a geopolitical, strategic map one plane and two pilots - nothing, tic-tac-toe, but at the same time it is prestige, or vice versa - undermining the prestige of a large and serious state, which is trying to regain its former greatness ...

        Here is the Bosphorus, it’s going to swing ... Indulgence for Turkey ... That's where the problem is ... As long as Turkey (and therefore NATO) controls it - well, we won’t do anything by and large ...
        1. user1212
          user1212 24 November 2015 23: 59
          0
          http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2690718
          Ankara shot down a Russian Su-24 bomber in Syrian airspace. Moreover, a Turkish fighter violated the Syrian-Turkish border by attacking a Russian plane. These are the conclusions of the General Staff of Russia. Moscow then changes its strategy of action in Syria.
          Firstly, all actions of strike aircraft will be carried out only under the guise of fighter aircraft, emphasized the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia, Lieutenant General Sergei Rudskoy.
          Second, Moscow will strengthen the air defense of its entire military grouping in Syria and off its shores. For this, the cruiser Moskva equipped with the Fort air defense system will occupy an area in the coastal part of Latakia. The "Fort" system is similar to the S-300. “We warn you that all targets that pose a potential threat to us will be destroyed,” said Lieutenant General Sergei Rudskoy.
          And finally, the third: all military contacts with Turkey will be terminated.
  • stariy
    stariy 24 November 2015 16: 41
    +5
    But now we can arm the Kurds by no means, and with a light heart !!!
  • ALEXXX1983
    ALEXXX1983 24 November 2015 16: 42
    +7
    In light of recent events: I believe that for the safety of our air forces it is necessary to shoot down all Turkish military aircraft crossing Syrian airspace.
    PS It's a pity my opinion does not solve anything. sad
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 24 November 2015 17: 18
      +4
      And by the way, in vain do you think so, in the near future Assad may declare a run-off over Syria, he is still the president .. well, Russia will provide it ... that will be the right answer !!! Yes, and arm the Kurdistan in full !! !
  • Scythian 104
    Scythian 104 24 November 2015 16: 42
    +4
    The Su-24 has no chances against the F-16! Putin is right, it's a stab in the back. The pilots simply did not expect an air-to-air missile attack from Turkey.
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 24 November 2015 17: 25
      +7
      Seriously? Don’t talk nonsense .. the radar warning system from the outside is on any more or less modern aircraft, although this does not change the essence and the Su-24, of course, the F-16 is not an opponent, these are two different classes! But still I have to disagree with you .. a combat pilot performing a combat mission and even in close proximity to the territory over which incidents have already occurred .. just have to be ready for anything! It's a pity guys, well, what is such a profession as they say ... in such times, in place of one the deceased hero..Russia mother raised ten, and this time she’s not crying, and if we pay her back in full! And our president’s support at this difficult time is very difficult for him !!!
  • Gandelman
    Gandelman 24 November 2015 16: 43
    32 th
    Unpersuasive speech. I am disappointed in Putin
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 November 2015 16: 50
      +6
      Quote: Gandelman
      Unpersuasive speech. I am disappointed in Putin

      And in your opinion, how should Chapai be chopped off his shoulder? This is a serious matter and it’s definitely not worth rushing here. If anything, the outcome may be in the form of the Third World War and this must be understood.
      1. Teplohod
        Teplohod 24 November 2015 17: 07
        +2
        Turks, read NATO, judging by the actions, everyone understands and acts perfectly
        1. dr. sem
          dr. sem 24 November 2015 18: 44
          +1
          Do they understand? It looks like their understanding has broken completely. They have already gone crazy with their idea of ​​a New Churkestan Sultanate. By the way, a LOT of chicks are raving about the "great empire" today.
      2. captain dvv
        captain dvv 24 November 2015 19: 31
        +2
        Quote: NEXUS
        Quote: Gandelman
        Unpersuasive speech. I am disappointed in Putin

        And in your opinion, how should Chapai be chopped off his shoulder? This is a serious matter and it’s definitely not worth rushing here. If anything, the outcome may be in the form of the Third World War and this must be understood.


        The Turks were not afraid of the world and therefore should be afraid?
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 24 November 2015 19: 44
          +2
          Quote: captain dvv
          The Turks were not afraid of the world and therefore should be afraid?

          Where are you going to get our children and women vacationing in Turkey? Think at least a little with your head, dear. While there will be no military retaliatory step, we need to remove our citizens from the territory of Turkey.
    2. Wiruz
      Wiruz 24 November 2015 16: 53
      +8
      Have you expected that he will start knocking on the pedestal with a shoe? It is necessary to wait for Zhirinovsky’s speech. Experience suggests something on Putin’s mind, on Volfych’s lip hi
    3. ALEA IACTA EST
      ALEA IACTA EST 24 November 2015 17: 25
      11
      Putin is no less angry, or even more so, than VO visitors. But he is the President and Supreme Commander ...
    4. Hyppopotut
      Hyppopotut 24 November 2015 17: 44
      +2
      And you don’t need to convince anyone. Let's see what the actions will be ...
    5. Sanmak
      Sanmak 25 November 2015 05: 35
      0
      Quote: Gandelman
      Unpersuasive speech. I am disappointed in Putin


      Judging by the flag of your affiliation, it’s deep for us us army !!!
  • Yaroslavl
    Yaroslavl 24 November 2015 16: 43
    12
    And finally, honestly, Turkey is no longer a partner ... but a hotbed of evil and terror ...
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 24 November 2015 16: 43
    14 th
    Not even a hair will fall from the head of the Turks. First of all, "our state corporations" have about 40 billion business there, which they will immediately shut down, but for the "Kremlin" business and money is God and the meaning of life. Secondly, for any hostile movement, the Turks will close the Bosphorus and our entire war in Syria will end in a week, and then we will have to urgently take out equipment around the whole of Europe, and people by air, flying over the territory of ISIS. This is such a superpower run by the "most influential politician in the world."
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 24 November 2015 16: 50
      +6
      What nonsense are you talking about? I don’t know what about private business, but we could start to forget about Turkish Stream.
      Well, they will block the Bosphorus and what? We have an air corridor through Iran. This time. Second, if the Turks block the Bosphorus only for our ships, this is a serious reason to accuse them of complicity in terrorism and, as a result, take adequate measures.
      Do you think NATO will intervene? It is doubtful that the Turks are simply a setup for the alliance, a touchstone to test the reaction of Russia. And if they suffer there, so to whom it is cold or hot.
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 24 November 2015 17: 47
        +1
        Well, I'm talking nonsense. How do you think events will develop? Write here and let’s say in a week we’ll compare the forecasts. It will be simple and clear.
        And "We have an air corridor through Iran" I will write again - more than half of it passes over the territory of ISIS, will you carry hundreds of people over it? This time, and secondly, how will you supply aircraft only to our 2000 grouping with aircraft, tanks and artillery, plus the entire Syrian army. How many planes are needed for this? Are they in the right amount? Are they exactly in the right amount?
        Straits - the sovereign territory of Turkey, it can block them at any time, in response to any hostile actions and even statements. Putin understands this and therefore has not specifically blamed Turkey for anything, and even more so has not threatened him with anything, for example, a few rhetorical questions and a few beautiful words that lead to nothing. Why Putin didn’t say - I gave the order to the Minister of Defense to prepare proposals for the prevention, we will be in the bucket ... even this is not.
        1. chunga-changa
          chunga-changa 25 November 2015 12: 19
          0
          Let's continue "What nonsense are you talking about."
          MOSCOW, November 24. / TASS /. Russian gas supplies to Turkey will continue in accordance with contractual obligations. This was stated by TASS Deputy Minister of Energy of the Russian Federation Anatoly Yanovsky.
          "Yes, it cannot be otherwise," he said ...

          The first part of the Marlezon ballet, this is just the beginning.
          1. chunga-changa
            chunga-changa 25 November 2015 16: 47
            -1
            on Wednesday, November 25, Interfax reports.
            “We are not going to fight with Turkey, the attitude towards the Turkish people has not changed, we have questions about the actions of the current Turkish leadership,” Lavrov said ...
            Presidential spokesman Dmitry Peskov also said earlier that Russia would not fight with Turkey.
            “The president did not talk about any military consequences. We must proceed from this that the president did not allow such statements, ”Peskov said.

            The second part, not yet evening, will be more. In a couple of days, the Turkish people will also become "fraternal".
            1. chunga-changa
              chunga-changa 25 November 2015 18: 31
              0
              Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu said that Ankara is not interested in aggravating relations with Russia, since it considers it a friend of Turkey. Davutoglu promised to provide Russia with information on how the Turkish Air Force shot down the Su-24 ...
              “Our political, economic and cultural ties with Russia are extremely strong. We have no intention of increasing tension in relations, since Russia is our friend. Relations between the two powers should not be sacrificed because of the incident, ”the TV company quoted Davutoglu as saying ...
              Earlier Wednesday, Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan said the Turkish Air Force pilots who shot down a Russian plane did not know which country it belonged to. Erdogan also noted that the Su-24 was shot down in Turkish airspace, and that some parts of the aircraft fell to the ground on the Turkish side and injured two citizens of the country.

              That's all, the boys have already made up. Now they will take a short pause and explain to the people something like that, about a broken navigator, lack of communication, the human factor, in general, people will grab everything. At this point I stop "talking nonsense", for me it is now done by Sands, Dudayev and Laurels. Good luck to the Uryapatriots, the informational bread is already being prepared for you, eat, do not crap.
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  • COBA
    COBA 24 November 2015 16: 43
    0
    I am glad that our president adequately sees the situation, now it is up to adequate actions.
    1. Tambov Wolf
      Tambov Wolf 24 November 2015 19: 11
      -2
      Deflection will be adequate. Already begun.
  • sa-ag
    sa-ag 24 November 2015 16: 44
    +4
    I read the comments of this and similar topics and recall 2014, shelling from Ukraine on the territory of the Rostov Region, one dead Russian citizen and a wounded customs officer, and what, were there any consequences?
    1. serg2.72
      serg2.72 24 November 2015 16: 53
      +3
      Take my word for it, there were consequences and some more! I can’t say sorry.
      1. combat66
        combat66 24 November 2015 17: 51
        +1
        laughing Yes, and so we know that then flew into the forelock
    2. igorka357
      igorka357 24 November 2015 17: 30
      -3
      And you didn’t notice .. the Ukroarmia practically does not exist .. so .. a miserable likeness .. !!!
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 24 November 2015 17: 49
        +3
        Quote: igorka357
        And you didn’t notice .. Ukroarmia practically does not exist ..

        And who recently shells the outskirts of Donetsk?
        1. Militia
          Militia 24 November 2015 20: 00
          0
          Yes, all sorts of shell-shocked and unfinished morons from the battalions of PS, Donbas, Azov and the like of the Galicians of scumbags. The mortar was given, 100 bucks were given where to show it was shown - that's threshing on the outskirts.
          It remains to wait a bit. They will give them 200 bucks, they will be given them SAU-2 or Grad, they will be shown the direction to Kuev and they will fire at those outskirts. They don’t care where to shoot, if only the loot was dripping and the sponsor of the dough was alive and well. After all, battalions have their masters. And the owners are becoming increasingly dissatisfied with the policies of Pedro Gunpowder. Something like this is likely.
        2. igorka357
          igorka357 26 November 2015 14: 00
          0
          I repeat, a miserable semblance of an army !!!
  • ioann1
    ioann1 24 November 2015 16: 44
    +3
    Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich, you need to deal with enemies accordingly. They respect only a tough approach. And the Ottomans have never been friends to us. God with us!
  • ram_design
    ram_design 24 November 2015 16: 44
    +2
    Ottomans stsuki!

    Break diplomatic ties with the Ottomans!

    Cancel all contracts for the sale of oil and gas! Refuse all Turkish products!

    Start deliveries MANPADS Kurds!

    Sponsor the Kurdish Workers Party economically!
  • Alexandr2637
    Alexandr2637 24 November 2015 16: 44
    +1
    You give carpet bombing in Turkey!
    1. Militia
      Militia 24 November 2015 19: 25
      +1
      This loud slogan is a call to war. Article 354 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation. Or a call for ethnic hatred Article 282 of the Criminal Code. And this is crime. Do you need it? As our unforgettable O. Bender said to his accomplice Kise Vorobyaninov: The code must be respected.
      1. Wolka
        Wolka 25 November 2015 05: 33
        0
        I absolutely agree with my colleague, for always untying your tongue, think about your ass ...
  • russmensch
    russmensch 24 November 2015 16: 45
    +6
    It didn’t work in Ukraine, now they are trying to drag us into the war using the Turks? And should I also respect them all?
  • Cjiobo
    Cjiobo 24 November 2015 16: 45
    +6
    All Turks understood. The operation was prepared. They knew that the plane was without cover, since we did not expect such blows in the back from friends. Now they are pulling the army to the borders and air defense. So they will start a company on Syrian land. Whether we have the strength to stop them politically or physically is a question. The Turks poured into ISIS’s campaign, too, many times went to such a step.
    1. KUOLEMA
      KUOLEMA 24 November 2015 18: 16
      +3
      and when the Turks were friends with us, well, remind me how many Russian-Turkish wars we had
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 24 November 2015 16: 45
    +5
    This was known for a long time, but there was no solid evidence, such that it was possible to poke in the face, and now they are! And what will Turkey do now? When there is no way out, usually the enemy often gets into a pose and declares that he does not care, in which case he just needs to tear his head off.
  • gridasov
    gridasov 24 November 2015 16: 45
    10
    Silence will not work. Having got involved in a fight, you need to analyze all possible situations, and not just those who paint themselves as an illusion. Here either the Turks "got lost" and face new problems, or it is their provocation for the next step. or they are just dumb and unable to see further developments. Or ..... already from the other side. One thing is clear, the war is going on and growing. Therefore, there is no alternative in new types of weapons. Dominate. so dominate.
    1. flSergius
      flSergius 24 November 2015 16: 49
      +2
      One thing is clear, the war is on and on.


      Where to the EU? No, economic sanctions are one thing, and rushing under Russian tanks is another. Now Erdogan will turn around, but behind his back is empty, the scouts have fallen off sharply. You’ll have to puff yourself.
  • boris-1230
    boris-1230 24 November 2015 16: 46
    10
    Go to Turkey on vacation - do not respect yourself
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 24 November 2015 16: 59
      +4