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Who is to blame for Russian problems?

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Lately there are a lot of disputes on this topic, but for some reason the truth is not born. After reading the statements of many of our readers, I made a very peculiar conclusion. We still live in a fairy tale, where everything should be "according to the command of magic, according to my desire." That is, everything should be done by magic, by itself. And there must be rivers of milk and honey.


And since this is not observed, many Russians are justifiably unhappy. And express it on various resources, including here. But let's take a closer look at the arguments put forward.

1. Power.

Power unhappy. Our power leaves much to be desired. Wrong people are appointed and not to those posts. But who provided this power and relative impunity and corruption? We, the voters. The experience of participating in 12 election campaigns allows me to make this conclusion.

Impunity of deputies of any level is ensured primarily by voters. A living example: in September in Voronezh, the owner of a house-building factory was once elected a certain owner, Lukin. For him voted for absentee ballots seven and a half thousand of its employees. Even to Moscow it came. But in the relevant committee of the State Duma they shook their fingers ... and that was all. MP It is clear from the EP.

I don’t even want to talk about those deputies who simply bought votes for the amounts from 300 to 500 rubles. Every second, from EP “every first.”

And each election show ends the same. The victory of the EP. And a certain amount in the pockets of voters.

It is logical, of course, that after such elections of such deputies, the result is obtained accordingly. As, for example, a deputy from the EP, someone Oganezov closed his reception room the next day after the won elections. Well, he was not up to the voters, on the campaign in the regional Duma his 21 million flew away.

For the elections in the DG better? C'mon ... the stakes are bigger. By thousand can cut down.

Can anyone recall the fact of a deputy’s recall by voters? I personally do not. And the very fact of recalling the same Lukin causes only Homeric laughter. If they voted under pressure from the owner, no one will dare to meow.

And it is precisely from such "elections" that most of the problems come. You can change something only by pulling the deputies for a mustache, forcing them to really work. And this is not developed here. We can come to the waiting room to beg a little money, nothing more. And we are not accustomed to demand from the chosen one. Moreover, such actions should be provided precisely by the mass of voters. And who needs it? So we have what is.

Deputies work only for themselves, discourage the money spent, and it absolutely suits everyone. No evidence to the contrary? Means, suits.

2. Budget and money in particular.

Often in comments to the postponement of debt to Ukraine and the pre-Olympic articles I met this phrase: "It would be better if they gave me this money, I would have disposed of it myself." Yes, we have a lot of smart people. Would have ordered.

In our country, there was already an experiment of this kind. Privatization. Have distributed to all. So what? Many have disposed of? Well yes. Millions. They rushed to "MMM" and other CHIFs, mutual funds and other offices, where they promised the same milk rivers. And flew. Who was smart - he normally ordered. But there were few such in Russia. Basically, everything was either sold, or they were simply bred and thrown.

By the way, I am relatively satisfied with my privatization results. All "their" 17 vouchers took to the office that built the optical cable plant. 7 hasn’t had anything else with them except reports. Then another 5 years of promises. And then poke. Not much, but on a ticket to Essentuki’s beloved, every fall, my mother has enough. Well, the drunkard then "raised" the money. My only successful investment in this life. And someone does not have that. Only memories and anger.

So the experiment "to give everything so that everyone will dispose of it" is not for this people. And I hope that during my life there will be no more such experiments. Otherwise we will whistle all that remains.

After the Olympic Games, at least the infrastructure remained, roads, interchanges. And distribute to the clever - everything would be in the toilet and played in the end.

3. Roads.

Here, too, is the theme. Roads in some places from the war did not do, and in some places - quite nothing. It already depends on local people. And what should be done so that people on the ground do their work? That's right, move them with the help of the same deputies. The orders to give and control their execution. And blackmail with the recall of this deputy, if he does not do a damn thing.

But this again is not for us. We in the bulk will be on the sites mutter, rather than a little letter roll up where necessary. What if something is wrong with the letter? No, we will wait. That itself was adjusted. Well, wait.

Again, an example, positive, if the backside of the couch to tear. Until recently, our roads in Voronezh were parables for the entire Black Soil Region. 1943 sample of the year. It got really. And so a group of people gathered, gathered up signatures under the appeal to the governor (and here it’s just Putin that we sent Gordeeva to us instead of our freaks), and not just collected them, but about 12 thousands. He also collected, because all history I know. Gordeev instructed the road to do. They did it, they found money somewhere. In the spring, as expected, the asphalt together with the snow went somewhere. Melted. And then the fun started.

Gordeev ordered criminal cases to start on all those who are involved. And they brought! True, it was necessary to postpone the execution, because all the city road builders fell under the batch. And there was no more suicide repair. I had these "ask". With a hint that in the spring, if again there is such filth, then they will plant it for sure. The result is obvious, that is, on the roads. Can, it turns out, especially if the change of habitat shines.

In other regions, the situation is much worse. But if nobody needs it there, then everything will remain the same. There is money in any region, even the most subsidized. It is only necessary to force officials not to engage in cutting and steal, but to work. But for this, again, it is necessary to get out of the sofa. And it is more difficult.

Well, they are not able to work with us while the Democrats work as they should. Need help. And with the help of the media, and with the help of prosecutors. As practice shows, after the relevant article, even on the Internet, prosecutors show very good results. Watch out for observance of the law so that the mother does not grieve. And do not push in the back - so they will not strain. All in Russian.

4. "Poor pensioners"

This is generally a favorite topic of our liberassov. I don’t feed them with bread, but give all the poor and retirees a favor. If you listen to these organisms, so we have everyone who retired, starving.

I agree that the percentage of those who need it is great, but not so much that it would be worth it to vote about it. And each such case must be considered separately. I have a similar example in my staircase lives. There is no such deputy to whom this woman would not turn bitter tears at her hard life. Because her pension is only 7 thousand. And for her "treshka" you need to put about 3 700 a month. And how to live?

The joke is that Madame did not work a single day in her life. She lived married officers. But with the second bad luck came out, his pension for some reason, she broke off. It seemed, yes, you sell the three-room apartment, move into one-room apartment and live for your pleasure. Not. Apartment after the death of his son will go. Although he has his own, in the North, where he serves. That flooded with tears all the reception, to which he gets.

For some reason, speaking of retirees, everyone prefers to remain silent on the topic of benefits. And they, I must say, there are, and relatively reasonable. I don’t know how in other cities, but we have social buses that accurately copy the numbers and routes of the Soviet times. For the convenience of old people. Free And they are mainly used by pensioners. In general, it is necessary to be a suicide bomber to get on such a bus. Grandmas will stick with sticks, this is their transport. And for some categories, the municipality gives travel tickets for all types of ordinary city buses. And about discounts on housing and communal services, gas, electricity, too, the gentlemen who criticize are silent. And they too are. And up to 50% reach. Few? I do not know. My retired parents are happy with everything.

Has anyone tried to enter a hypermarket that pampers customers with discounts and sales? Type "Carousel" or "Ribbons"? Hours in 10 am? Try visit weekday. Get an unforgettable experience. A sort of collection of the club "For those who are for 60". And they load carts as if each Gazel is waiting at the exit. It is understood that from a bad life.

Of course, all the above is not applicable to every city. And here the work field is not plowed, but this is someone who needs to work. And someone customized work. In this country, without this in any way.

5. Western values ​​in the minds.

Alas, so. Post-Soviet times have greatly changed the content in many minds. And not for the better. Well bought beautiful cars, do not go through the yards now. Zayfonilis and zaypaydilis. But they were like Ivan the Fools, who were waiting for either a pike or a Sivku-Burka.

Forgotten how to understand those things that should be happy. Reduced electricity tariffs in Primorye - and so what? Everywhere you need to reduce, all expensive. We launched a new plant or restored an old one - so what? It should be a thousand factories. But in the shmirny shelch now do not fly in the fall, when cheaper - it is a tragedy on a national scale. Directly along Zhirinovsky, it is necessary that the "Russian" Boeing flew, accompanied by sushiks, to Egypt, and for every vacationer there was a "green man" with a gun. Guarded. That's when beauty and grace.

It is clear that all this basically scribbles office plankton, which has time for it. And that he has never produced anything in his life, but only traded in what others have produced. That is nothing for the country. For those who are at the machine or at the helm of a combine, there is nothing special to do on the Internet. So, after work, have some fun. But there is no time to write long minds.

The main problem of today is the inertia of the population and the pro-Western "Give me and I will consume." But we are not Europe, nobody will give anything. I do not know, fortunately, or unfortunately.

But it is clear that if we want changes in our life to take place in accordance with our expectations and wishes, we will have to change our usual way of doing things. Do not wait for the authorities to bring everything and put it in their mouths, but to demand from the authorities proper performance of their duties. Any available methods.
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  1. Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 25 November 2015 10: 10 New
    +9
    "Who is to blame and what to do" two eternal questions on 1/6 of the land. Many Great Thinkers have been asking these questions for centuries and nothing has changed. How to build fools of the road and build it.
    1. severniy
      severniy 25 November 2015 10: 13 New
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      It seems that everything is true, but in fact we (the people) like our eagle have two heads. And one patriotic seems ready to serve the country, and the other thinks how to harm the state with its draconian taxes and the "fair" distribution of benefits ....
      Hence the mess in the country and in the brain ..
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 25 November 2015 10: 16 New
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        Quote: author
        Who ensured this power and relative impunity and corruption? We voters.
        Are you serious? Those. You say that everything depends on us, the people? And even: WE ARE VOTERS? And in the elections "democratic" from 91 of the year - WE CHOOSE ?!
        Wow!
        1. Temples
          Temples 25 November 2015 10: 23 New
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          I think he's joking.
          Black humor.
          They themselves are to blame. They set themselves on fire. He shot himself in the heart twice, etc. etc.
          Or maybe the system of government is not that?
          If people are not happy, maybe you need to listen to people?
          Recall that we are not only and not so much the electorate and voters, but above all PEOPLE, residents of our country?
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          2. win
            win 25 November 2015 10: 46 New
            +9
            maybe you need to listen to people?


            А who will listen?
          3. EvgNik
            EvgNik 25 November 2015 12: 43 New
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            Quote: Temples
            I think he's joking.
            Black humor.

            Yes, he’s not joking. Really thinks so. I’ve never been offered money in the elections. But I have never seen in the lists worthy, those for whom I would like to vote. This topic has been repeatedly raised. Not once did I promise to go to the polls - and each time I went back again. You look at the list: this one, the other is even worse. So delve into this indecency, looking for grain - but it is not.
            About retirees. I am one of them. I'm not complaining about life - I'm not used to it. Pensions are enough for everything. But here's a trip to the sea or a trip - figs.
            On privatization. We have shares with the wife of our factory, which is now the same bankrupt as Ukraine. Several times they tried to buy them from us for a ridiculous price - they proudly refused. Better use for its intended purpose - in the toilet. And so on throughout the article. With all due respect to Roman, this time there is a fat minus for insulting the people and misunderstanding reality.
            1. veksha50
              veksha50 25 November 2015 13: 54 New
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              Quote: EvgNik
              You look at the list: this one, the other is even worse.



              Gold words !!! This is where our problems lie - all trash is torn to power and money ... And you choose the best not from the best, but from the worst ...
            2. gladcu2
              gladcu2 25 November 2015 17: 09 New
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              Evginik

              The author focused on the issue not only on the electoral model of the state. But a general regressive concept.

              The author is trying to find an explanation for what is happening but cannot.

              The problem is that any logic that you would try to build rests on the starting, starting point. If it is not true, the whole chain of thoughts is not true.

              The answer is simple. The liberal model works as long as the pack has victims that you can have.
          4. antoXa
            antoXa 25 November 2015 12: 46 New
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            Temples
            Yes, the author is right in almost everything, only in order to realize this, one thing needs to be clearly understood, NOBODY will do ANYTHING for anything, the point is not that our power is poor, it is the same everywhere, people come to all countries with certain ambitions to solve their own problems and problems, in most cases related to personal enrichment or enrichment of an interested group of people (family, corporation, etc.) they don’t have ANYTHING to the people, so they all think and this must be understood clearly!
            Our trouble, compared with the theme of the states, is that we still have not been able to clearly build a system of our interaction with state authorities, a system of pressure and forcing them to do what they should do !!!
            And in my opinion, in this case, the fish does not rot from the head, several years ago I accidentally read a rather interesting book, called the “new federalist,” one of its chapters tells in the first person how the states are engaged in self-regulation in the states and how they participate in the work of bodies municipal authorities, I was shocked by how seriously they take this !!! Together they decide to excuse such questions, for example, how and what colors you can paint private houses on the street and whether or not satellite dishes can be hung on the front side of houses. Every little thing, every nuance of improvement. And we’re sorry for the money for installing an intercom, you don’t get it personally I had to hear such words from the tenants “well, from the front door, so what? I don’t need your intercom” and that the government and deputies are also to blame for this ???
            Roman is right!
            1. veksha50
              veksha50 25 November 2015 14: 02 New
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              Quote: antoXa
              how they participate in the work of municipal authorities, I was shocked by how seriously they take this !!!



              Hmm ... it's hard to disagree with the entire scope of your comment ...

              However, in matters of self-government ... Yes, we did not have it under the USSR, and there is none now ...
              Under the USSR, the city authorities led everything under the leadership of the city party committee ...
              In 2004, they tried to portray local self-government, introduced a new law, declaring the complete independence and independence of local governments ...

              However, this full independence was leveled to zero, forcing to privatize all the objects that could more or less bring revenues to the municipal treasury in the form of rental fees ... Well, there are many more factors ...

              As a result, the municipalities were in the role of rogues ... And from their local beggarly budget, those who are at the feeding trough have to cut something off for themselves-children-grandchildren ...

              THERE they have long been self-governing ... And the mayors, and judges and sheriffs are chosen precisely by the people ... BUT !!! But there are poop in these positions and municipal problems enough ...
              1. antoXa
                antoXa 26 November 2015 10: 52 New
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                veksha50
                Thank you for the comment)) I have been working in the municipal service for several years and believe me, I know about many problems, but this was not about that, but about the legal awareness of the population and the desire for myself to at least try to improve my living conditions.
                We all wait and hope that finally, honest officials will come to power and begin to arrange our life for us, let it never be!
          5. veksha50
            veksha50 25 November 2015 13: 27 New
            +1
            Quote: Temples
            Or maybe the system of government is not that?



            I left a comment below on the authority ...

            Yes, it seems that we are choosing ... And it seems that they are choosing in other countries ... And in almost all countries there are enough dissatisfied with the authorities ...

            However, US differs from other countries in the main: the lack of a mechanism for influencing the plutocrat boyars, their recall and punishment ... Well, they are UNCONSCIOUS, and that’s the point ...

            And even when the Investigative Committee and the Prosecutor General have facts proving their criminal activity, the Duma has long been puzzling the issue of allowing them to be held accountable ... So long that they have time not only to hide in the foggy edges of Albion, but also to realize or transfer your assets ...

            And such examples are above the roof ...
            1. gladcu2
              gladcu2 25 November 2015 18: 06 New
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              Veksha

              You reason correctly, but you are treating the consequence. But the disease must be treated.

              In a nutshell, how to understand where the dog rummaged.

              Large peasant family.

              Sit down at the table for dinner. On the table is a cauldron with porridge for each spoon. Everyone carefully takes his spoon so that, God forbid, take more. Everyone eats as much as the body needs, but that would not deprive the neighbor.

              Since childhood, collective morality has been established in families.

              Younger child.
              Older children have grown up. The younger mother allows more. What we have? Pity, lack of pragmatism for the younger. An egoist is growing who, if he does not demand it, will then steal.

              The collective. This company has a non-directing director.

              Individualism. This is the MMM pyramid. Pyramid of the International Monetary Fund.

              To understand the regressiveness of problems, you can trace the logic from the basics. An individualistic or collective problem.
              1. veksha50
                veksha50 25 November 2015 21: 47 New
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                Quote: gladcu2
                You reason correctly, but you are treating the consequence. But the disease must be treated.

                In a nutshell, how to understand where the dog rummaged.

                To understand the regressiveness of problems, you can trace the logic from the basics. An individualistic or collective problem.

                Ghm ... In my opinion, now we have one problem - the individualistic one ... The problem is that everyone individually wants to transfer the results of collective labor to themselves ...

                Oh, they’ll kill, they’ll kill ...
            2. antoXa
              antoXa 26 November 2015 11: 00 New
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              veksha50
              Yes, they are jurisdictional and how else, I know a huge number of examples when officials who were completely cut up completely suddenly shut down, though far and for a long time ... and believe me, it was extremely unexpected! Just unfortunately, for many years in our country, after the collapse of the USSR and, entering the "free" world, they built a system of personnel selection in the state. management and built it in such a way that a person who wants to work honestly and for the benefit of the people would be squeezed out of this system and a huge number of thieves, crooks and outright bandits will come to power. It is very difficult to break such a system and it takes not one year, but decades.
          6. gladcu2
            gladcu2 25 November 2015 16: 59 New
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            Temples

            I know what to do and how to do it. In a nutshell.

            The value system of society works to regress.

            At the heart of the morality of a regression society is individualism. In this lies the lie of the liberal model.

            The moral in a progressive society is collectivism.

            What made a man out of a monkey? Work.

            The correct answer is joint work.

            The answer of the liberal. You have herd thinking.
        2. oldseaman1957
          oldseaman1957 25 November 2015 10: 26 New
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          Quote: Baikonur
          WE ARE VOTERS?

          - Statisty we ... Bl ... db!
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 25 November 2015 10: 45 New
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            Quote: oldseaman1957
            - Statists we ..

            It is unclear why you are writing extras with a minus ... And there is such a word "electorate". Translated into Russian, it’s completely neutral = voters, but if the same "voters" are called in an incomprehensible word electorate, then this just emphasizes the complete inertia of the "electorate" in comparison with voters. The Russian language is powerful; therefore, it is probably clogged with foreign words.
            1. veksha50
              veksha50 25 November 2015 14: 04 New
              +1
              Quote: V.ic
              And there is such a word "electorate"


              I don’t know what your reaction to this word is, but I want to give it to the speaker in the face ...
              This is identical to the word "", and as such the people "our" boyars consider ...
              1. veksha50
                veksha50 25 November 2015 21: 54 New
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                Quote: veksha50
                It's identical to the word "",


                I apologize, moderators and administrators, but the words "bsdlo" and cattle "(which is identical) are not offensive, and even more so - obscene phrases ...

                According to Ozhegov’s dictionary, “bsdlo” are stupid, weak-willed people, wordlessly submissive and people who allow themselves to be exploited ...
                "cattle" - the collective word "animals" ...

                The word "bsdlo" was removed in my comment ...

                The better the word "electorate" ??? !!!

                PS I was forced to type some word translit ...
        3. dr. sem
          dr. sem 25 November 2015 10: 37 New
          +8
          Selects "CENTRESBURK". The winner is the one who VOTES THE VOICE, NOT THE ELECTOR ...
          I myself participated in the work of the district IR (once as a driver, but I have eyes). Spit for a long time ...
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        5. bubalik
          bubalik 25 November 2015 10: 37 New
          +1
          Baikonur (5) SU  Today, 10: 16 ↑ Are you serious? Those. You say that everything depends on us, the people? 


          ,,, well, yes, well, yes you are right, nothing depends on the people now ,,,,
          ,,,Puppet Theatre,,,
          1. Samaritan
            Samaritan 25 November 2015 11: 44 New
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            Quote: bubalik
            Baikonur (5) SU  Today, 10: 16 ↑ Are you serious? Those. You say that everything depends on us, the people? 


            ,,, well, yes, well, yes you are right, nothing depends on the people now ,,,,
            ,,,Puppet Theatre,,,

            And you try, at least once ...
        6. Mareman Vasilich
          Mareman Vasilich 25 November 2015 10: 58 New
          +4
          Calm down, sometimes the author is specifically disingenuous. It is possible that even he is cunning sincerely, naively. Roman, did you yourself try to do what you wrote? Or you too were attracted to tsarism, the king is good - these are bad boyars. Or bad people got caught by the current government.
        7. corn
          corn 25 November 2015 11: 26 New
          +4
          Quote: Baikonur
          And in the elections "democratic" since 91 years - WE CHOOSE ?!
          Wow!

          Yes, we choose. He was the chairman of the precinct election commission in Russia in the first half of the 90s. Voter statement: "Vote for Zhirinovsky, will he show them?" To whom? The results of voting at my polling station were on average consistent with the results of voting in the country. Probably a problem in the minds of voters.
        8. CONTROL
          CONTROL 25 November 2015 12: 23 New
          +1
          Quote: Baikonur
          Quote: author
          Who ensured this power and relative impunity and corruption? We voters.
          Are you serious? Those. You say that everything depends on us, the people?

          ... Well, not everything ... But - something still depends on us, the people (and not only as voters)!
          (here it’s from me specifically - “office plankton” ... but with a shovel, crowbar and sledgehammer ... with a wrench, levers, a steering wheel in my hands ... and more often - with a keyboard, calculator, metal manuals; with compasses, theodolites and levels ... and many others! and at the same time I - I! will agree that nothing depends on me - ME! ??? it’s better to drink vodka then ... without drying out and not having a bite ...)
      2. 34 region
        34 region 25 November 2015 10: 38 New
        +1
        Do you propose to cut off one head and leave the other?
        1. Samaritan
          Samaritan 25 November 2015 11: 39 New
          +2
          Quote: 34 region
          Do you propose to cut off one head and leave the other?

          You probably did not work in large companies, there is the same story, clans and gangs, the leadership seems to be trying, but they cover each other until you start to survive with red-hot iron. ..
      3. Samaritan
        Samaritan 25 November 2015 11: 35 New
        +1
        I completely agree with the author!
        A rolling stone gathers no moss!
        I know from my own experience that Medvedev answered within a week (they solved the problem) and the Governor reacts, and the prosecutor’s office starts acting on anyone else and thanks for the active life position!
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 25 November 2015 10: 21 New
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      Quote: Vladimir
      "Who is to blame and what to do" two eternal questions on 1/6 of the land. Many Great Thinkers have been asking these questions for centuries and nothing has changed. How to build fools of the road and build it.

      Well, this issue will not be resolved here for 1000 years and some 1000 years some work on the sweat of the face, while others enjoy the fruits of this labor, they lived more or less in the USSR, they believed the Westerners, the West will help us, it helped us so that after the Soviet Union, we almost ruined Russia .
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 25 November 2015 10: 25 New
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        Quote: 79807420129
        Quote: Vladimir
        "Who is to blame and what to do"

        Well, we won’t solve this issue for 1000 years .... after the USSR, Russia was almost ruined.


        How so? After all, everything is visible - and who is to blame and what to do! Only the one who should do is to blame!
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 25 November 2015 10: 43 New
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          PS: And what does it mean "A little ..."? Type of "stability" appeared, "Growth"? So this virtual stability was created by virtual programmers. And this stability is melting before our eyes!
          Apparently they can soon replenish “MANU” so that “Stability” does not fall below a critical level! To another 5 years shouted “Hurray” - “Stability”! To the remnants of vision died and did not stink!
    3. nimboris
      nimboris 25 November 2015 10: 34 New
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      Chernyshevsky is still that thinker, he smacks of terrorism from him.
    4. 3officer
      3officer 25 November 2015 10: 46 New
      +2
      I got drunk yesterday and in the morning muddies, there is only one reason - Putin is to blame !!
      The computer broke down and the tap is dripping - Putin Tiran is to blame for everything !!
      The wife got fat and the son at school is dumb, who is to blame, right ... (HATE !!! HE IS GUILTY !!!)
    5. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 25 November 2015 10: 50 New
      +4
      Unhappy with the authorities. Our power leaves much to be desired.
      I would say that they are not satisfied with the authorities, but with the government, headed by the prime minister ... some problems from such a government, corruption and lawlessness ...
      1. sergeybulkin
        sergeybulkin 25 November 2015 11: 18 New
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        This is generally a favorite topic of our liberassov. I don’t feed them with bread, but give all the poor and retirees a favor. If you listen to these organisms, so we have everyone who retired, starving.

        Immediately evident, the author is not a pensioner. We have a majority pension - this is a living wage of 6500 - 7500 rubles. This is enough not to die of hunger and pay, well, let's say for the light. What's next? You can still live in the village somehow, but in cities the rent for odnushka comes to 6000 rubles. How to live there ??? They want to raise their retirement age, but where will these people who are already over 60 work? Now after 45 years they’re not taking anywhere! No words only emotions!!! am
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 25 November 2015 14: 32 New
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          Quote: sergeybulkin
          Immediately evident, the author is not a pensioner. We have a majority pension - this is a living wage of 6500 - 7500 rubles.


          I will not be unfounded ...

          My wife worked as the head of the post office, that is, she was aware of the issued pensions ...

          So, the pension that you indicated is somewhere around 7-8% of the total cut in the microdistrict in our district town ...

          All their lives, these people worked either as sellers (!!! ... Well, at least - not the manager of vegetable bases), or cleaners ...

          Well, the sellers in our country and in the Union obviously paid little salaries - they all the same stole ... The cleaners, as they are not important, but still - unskilled labor ... Accordingly, the salary is ...

          For the rest (I do not take veterans and those who are over 80 - those have normal, even very normal pensions now) on average - from 12 to 18 thousand ... People just worked normally, in normal jobs, with normal experience ...


          Yes, this is not much, but they even allocate a share of their pensions to different nishtyaks ... I'm not talking about those who receive from 18 to 24000 ...

          The question that they deserve a larger pension is a different question ...

          So let's take a more realistic approach to this issue ...

          I do not like the State Statistics Committee and the Central Election Commission, whose “holy” duty is to shuffle and shuffle statistics for those in power ... The same applies to various surveys and ratings derived from them ... You will not see the real truth in them, just like in the fact that you said that with us the majority of pensioners sits at a subsistence level ...

          Unfortunately, there are families of pensioners (there are few of them, however, compared with the bulk), who receive a total of 42-54000 rubles, but every day they criticize Putin for these "small" pensions ...

          And where is the truth, brother ??? The real truth ???

          PS Unfortunately (or maybe not), everyone has their own truth ...
          1. skeptic31
            skeptic31 25 November 2015 19: 10 New
            -2
            Lord, what tree are you falling from? One continuous unfoundedness (this will not be unfounded), but with what pathos. If you don’t own the question, it’s better not to say anything, you’ll be a smart guy. I have a normal experience, and received more than 20 times more than the national average, and so what? My pension is 9000 rubles. And this is still very good, all the neighbors (neighbors) envy me. And I'm not a janitor, I have two higher educations. Moscow State University graduated with honors. Read the previous law on pensions, and the new one has a special clause according to which the old pensions are not reviewed, it is clearly written there, all who honestly worked, honestly paid taxes, are equalized with those who considered it unnecessary. You watch less TV, it is not only harmful to health, but also reduces mental potency.
      2. Samaritan
        Samaritan 25 November 2015 11: 41 New
        -1
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Unhappy with the authorities. Our power leaves much to be desired.
        I would say that they are not satisfied with the authorities, but with the government, headed by the prime minister ... some problems from such a government, corruption and lawlessness ...

        So the author calls for help to eradicate, and we all just whine ...
      3. Wheel
        Wheel 25 November 2015 12: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        I would say that they are not satisfied with the authorities, but with the government, headed by the prime minister ... some problems from such a government, corruption and lawlessness ...

        Campaign, the government, as be and not power?
        So in your opinion?
        I remember that someone built a vertical line in his sweat ...
        Lined up!
        And yes, the government, exactly the executive branch, if Che.
    6. Tor5
      Tor5 25 November 2015 11: 03 New
      0
      It is interesting, but what exactly did the author do to change the existing situation?
      1. Samaritan
        Samaritan 25 November 2015 11: 42 New
        +2
        Quote: Tor5
        It is interesting, but what exactly did the author do to change the existing situation?

        Have you tried to read the article ???
    7. max702
      max702 25 November 2015 11: 28 New
      -1
      The author somehow didn’t noticeably answer his own questions .. Have they made their way? And why ? But because Putin removed the old governor and put his own .. The deputies have the same hodgepodge, as long as they have an admin resource, elections are an absolutely useless thing, even if they are held without violations it doesn’t change anything. I repeat the admin resource will allow this .. And therefore, from time immemorial, the NKS in the country were led to be responsible for all the KING! Well, that's good! Then it is necessary to cancel all these elections at all levels to hell, except for the illusion of a "democratic choice" they give nothing! Anyway, this person is appointed from above. Spend state. money and for the chosen one no one bears responsibility .. Why? They’ve chosen the “Sami .. Well, well .. If we have a king (president), let him go and appoint. for key posts, he, and they select lower people themselves and, accordingly, are personally responsible for these people! And it’s not a vague voter (well, how about it? You chose .. yeah .. we). Mayor Ivanov was stolen, and who set it up? Yeah, Governor Sidorov! They’ll answer along the chain .. You tell me, but the President appointed Sidorov as governor! He will answer to whom? And here is the question conscience.. And if the highest person of the state does not have it, just as there is no desire to make his country prosperous (since he cannot give such thieves such a shortage, then there is no desire) then nothing will save .. Alas .. Elections are a fiction that doesn’t give (always choose the one who needs). Everything again became isolated on the personality of the head of the state-vom .. And it always has been! There was a worthy ruler in Russia, the country confidently flourished and moved forward, there was nothing in power and the country was heading for the abyss .. History fully confirms this, and there is nothing to be done about it, it was and will be so!
    8. kind
      kind 25 November 2015 11: 40 New
      +2
      Someone doesn’t have enough for bread, and some have small diamonds.
    9. znorick
      znorick 25 November 2015 11: 51 New
      +1
      Far from fools warm their hands on the "construction" of roads and not only roads. The article is as controversial as philosophical. The only question is what can an individual citizen, or even a group of citizens, do to restore justice. And how can this end for them? There is, for example, an initiative group of the Calling Party (Law on Responsibility of Power) http://igpr.ru/project. Criminal cases have already been instituted against their organizers. Any attempt by citizens to resist the injustice of the system leads to disastrous results. It so happened in Russia that a change in the control system takes place only through palace coups, the consequences of which wedge the marginal part of society, which always turns into bloody consequences.
    10. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 25 November 2015 14: 18 New
      +2
      Article is nonsense, put a minus.

      That's who is to blame for the problems of Russia or what, I will write point by point. All this has long been known from TV programs, debates, articles and other materials, which the darkness on YouTube has already been chewed and ground up to the point of the Starikov, Puchkov, Solovyov, Satanovsky and other analysts.

      1. Liberals,
      who are in power, came back in the Gorbachev era, then began to ruin the country and make plans to enrich their condition after destruction, to seize the country's vast resources belonging to the people for personal use as an inheritance. After the 90s, under Yeltsin, they all reached their highest peak and created this entire purulent system starting with the constitution, economic model, changes in education, medicine and the collapse of the army, all on their conscience. Liberalism has now penetrated the masses. In the media space there are a lot of them, media, show business, everything that is shown and listened to, in short radio and TV, starting with Svanidze, Grozman, Utkin, Bykov, Venediktov and other shelupon, whose main task is to “casualize” the population, inculcating Russian feelings of guilt for them Russianness. instill shame in their history so that they also regret the "occupation" of neighbors as the Germans regret the Jews that they burned, although the Germans burned Soviet prisoners of war no less than Jews. And what is interesting is that almost all liberals are Jews, and they are not patriots because they are not Russian. I would pass a law that would imprison, and for a long time, those who would question the victory of the Soviet Union as a traitor. Who will officially stutter that the Union was criminal immediately to the zone, like the denial of the Holocaust in Israel.

      2. The West and the United States are to blame, who, since the time of Paul the First, have been plotting against Russia, use it for their geopolitical purposes, then entering into an alliance with it, then against it, weakening and destroying it. The main goal of the West now, in the era of the post-industrial period, when the main energy power is oil and gas and minerals, as well as forests and water, to seize the boundless lands of Russia and mercilessly exploit it, and to destroy the people as unnecessary, now in the era of automation it’s unprofitable to feed mouths . This is what Russia needs to avoid. For this, it is necessary to strengthen the army and navy, whether it is enough for bread or not, for when the enemies come and get sick, there will be no bread at all, only the concentration camps and the place for utilization.

      That's all, Russia has no more problems. How can these two problems be eliminated, life itself will get better. Money will not be sold (Forex and the stock market, dollars, stocks, bonds and other capitalist bullshit.), But only goods - money. There will be no gmo. There will be no bad roads, because dollars will not be bought with all the money and loans will be issued at fabulous interest, and the entire infrastructure for development will be built. They will raise agriculture, since when the liberals are expelled there will be no taxes on small and medium enterprises. There will be a nationalization of all resources from the bowels of the earth. The state will regulate banks. Banks will issue loans at low interest rates only for their real money, and not for those that they borrowed from the Fed. The pension will be increased and money will be allocated for social needs, orphanages, and homes for the disabled. The authority of trade unions will be revived so that employers do not become impudent. There will be free medicine and education, because all resources will be taken from the oligarchs. When liberals are expelled from the educational system, which inflict enormous damage on culture, language and upbringing, the national spirit and religion will immediately revive, and there will be close to state ideology, which will be constitutionally fixed, and not like the ban on ideology now, “thank you” EBN. The main pillar of ideology, the new Russian, will be based on common sense and justice. That's all, God forbid, see. Amen.
  2. 222222
    222222 25 November 2015 10: 12 New
    19
    Who is to blame for the Russian problems? "
    .... K A P I T A L I Z M ....
    1. Altona
      Altona 25 November 2015 10: 23 New
      +6
      Quote: 222222
      Who is to blame for the Russian problems? "
      .... K A P I T A L I Z M ....

      ---------------------
      Some people objected to me that there are kosher capitalists such as industrialists and non-kosher type merchants. But the point is that now there are no manufacturers at many enterprises, traders reign there with a consciousness cut off at a profit rate and those who do not care about the fate of the team, in general, are absolutely cynical ...
      1. 222222
        222222 25 November 2015 10: 40 New
        16
        Altona (2) SU Today, 10:23 ↑ Some people objected to me that there are kosher capitalists such as industrialists and non-kosher type merchants. " laughing
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 25 November 2015 19: 21 New
          +2
          222222

          Why are people honest in production and thieves in offices?

          Because if the machine is not lubricated, it will not work.
          But if a worker is heated for a salary, then he can swallow it.

          But such a director will destroy the production all the same.

          Therefore, we get a paradox.

          Anyone who knows how to manage production does not want to take control. Because he knows that responsibility.

          And the one who does not know, he rushes to the director, because his motivation is theft. While there is something to rob. While there are developments of the previous director. This is liberal thinking. Life at the expense of others.

          Therefore, Stalin introduced this phrase about folk servants. The director should work for the collective benefit. Serve the people.
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 25 November 2015 12: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Altona
        Some people objected to me that there are kosher capitalists such as industrialists and non-kosher type merchants.

        ... Or maybe the Semites are to blame?
        "My friend and teacher, a drunk in Grocery
        said that the Semites are ordinary Jews ... "(C) (Vladimir Semenovich ...)
    2. Lenin
      Lenin 25 November 2015 10: 36 New
      +2
      Quote: 222222
      Who is to blame for the Russian problems? "
      .... K A P I T A L I Z M ....

      And I want to add: WITH INHUMAN FACE.
      1. 222222
        222222 25 November 2015 10: 46 New
        17
        Lenin (4) SU Today, 10:36 ↑ And I want to add: WITH INHUMAN FACE. "
        ... Hello, Vladimir Ilyich !! ... laughing
    3. gladcu2
      gladcu2 25 November 2015 19: 12 New
      +1
      222222

      Correctly. Capitalism is to blame.

      But how did capitalism defeat socialism?

      Changed moral values.

      You can say that I am. :)
      Values ​​are where they are! ? And they are stealing now.

      Answer. Who are the judges? They execute the courts on distorted morality.

      Capitalism did not win in two years. This took 70 years from the death of Stalin.

      Why so long? Changed morality. Changed how? Where did the KGB look?

      Changed through people of creative labor. Of morality, liberal egoistic. Any artist or writer punches himself in the chest and shouts, "I am the best!"

      Remember the Soviet? Be more modest, do not stand out. This is a collective moral.

      I am the best! This is a moral moral.

      Remember Stalin, after which there remained an overcoat and a pair of worn boots? But that Stalin left behind the most powerful balanced country in the world.

      Do you understand? The principle of replacement of values?

      Therefore, the GDP and pushes the economy "manual control". Did everyone hear the saying? Is the meaning clear?
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  4. venaya
    venaya 25 November 2015 10: 17 New
    +2
    who ensured this power and relative impunity and corruption?

    First of all, those who benefit from it, namely the corrupt themselves, I think everyone will agree with me on this. And yet, naturally, other interested individuals and organizations that organized this chaos, by the way, and not only in our country.
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 25 November 2015 12: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: venaya
      First of all, those who benefit from it, namely the corrupt themselves,

      And what to expect from those chicks of the Sobchak nest?
      Since the end of the 80s, we have a thieves in power, everything according to concepts.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 25 November 2015 21: 13 New
        +1
        Wheel

        Thief in power since the mid 80s. A generation was just raised after Stalin. With emphasis on a selfish worldview. And my generation completely destroyed the system.

        Finding excuses and identifying the perpetrators.
  5. Kito
    Kito 25 November 2015 10: 17 New
    -1
    Bullshit
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 25 November 2015 10: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Kito
      Delirium mare

      You with her from one day nursery oats glum? And, probably, neighing over its quality? What specifically did you want to say in the comments?
      1. Stinger
        Stinger 25 November 2015 11: 39 New
        +2
        Konchno delirium. The author forgot that every day unemployed are robbed. One Bentley for 8 lemons whistle, another handbag with five lemons, by the third they will burst into the palace and take out everything acquired by overwork, and they will give it in the face. So, that is complete nonsense.
  6. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 25 November 2015 10: 17 New
    12
    The main problem of today is the inertia of the population and the pro-Western "Give me and I will consume"

    I agree. Western consumerism is firmly rooted in our minds. Until there is a state ideological program to counteract this infection, we are essentially stomping on the spot.
    1. Andrea
      Andrea 25 November 2015 10: 31 New
      +3
      Does anyone have this? Who has no brains, he has a place. laughing
    2. KBR109
      KBR109 25 November 2015 10: 32 New
      0
      Well duck loans! Our ALL !!!
      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 25 November 2015 10: 45 New
        0
        Well duck loans! Our ALL !!!
        let's not talk about sad things. If we had a people's state, then it would not allow so shamelessly scouring the people. Because it is impossible to resist such aggressive advertising.
        1. CONTROL
          CONTROL 25 November 2015 12: 40 New
          0
          Quote: Gardamir
          Because it is impossible to resist such aggressive advertising.

          ... "the clock stood ... Watch the clock!"
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 25 November 2015 12: 38 New
        +2
        Quote: KBR109
        Well duck loans! Our ALL !!!

        A country that presents households with consumer loans at 20 - 28% has no future! ... But there is a "rich credit history" ...
    3. Alexey M
      Alexey M 25 November 2015 10: 38 New
      +3
      Until there is a state ideological program to counteract this infection, we are essentially stomping on the spot.
      Does anyone need this program?
      If there is an ideology, then it must be consistent, but what about the Cote d'Azur, Bentley, etc.
    4. Baikonur
      Baikonur 25 November 2015 11: 18 New
      +4
      Quote: S_Baykala
      we essentially stomp on the spot.
      Eprst! For a long time there is no place! We are in free fall!
    5. CONTROL
      CONTROL 25 November 2015 12: 36 New
      0
      Quote: S_Baykala
      The main problem of today is the inertia of the population and the pro-Western "Give me and I will consume"

      I agree. Western consumerism is firmly rooted in our minds. Until there is a state ideological program to counteract this infection, we are essentially stomping on the spot.

      There is no intelligible ideology - it can be called a national idea ... or something else.
      And so - for what are we fighting for? Why are we living? For children? Not bad ... but - it won't be enough!
      Or: "My main task in fulfilling the five-year plan is not to lose weight! Here I am, and I am fighting for it! Heroically ..." (C) I don’t remember where it seems to be from the play “A Man from the Side” ...
  7. Altona
    Altona 25 November 2015 10: 20 New
    +3
    As for the article, Roman wrote correctly. I was an observer in the last elections and saw the whole kitchen from the inside, the real turnout was about 50, support for the EP was about 43-47%, the rest was protest. Who passed in deputies of the City Council? That's right, the leaders of large and medium enterprises. And basically absolutely with swollen brains and solving their problems and their swollen and prolific families. Social elevators and sources of ideas are locked too. As for the prosecutor’s office, yes, but the prosecutor’s office is not a panacea either, I’ve been unsubscribed here the other day, I’m thinking for the third day how to answer them ...
    1. 34 region
      34 region 25 November 2015 10: 50 New
      +1
      Interesting observation! The deputies were heads of medium and large enterprises. In theory, these are people of production. And on the other hand, businessmen are thimbles. Take Israel. The territory of the Russian region. But the economy is completely nothing. In theory, we have these Israel as flies. But no. Our region or region cannot compete economically with the Israelis. Why? Although probably there (in Israel) they steal. So can anyone answer this question? Only without cons. Only opinions.
      1. Altona
        Altona 25 November 2015 11: 00 New
        +3
        Quote: 34 region
        In theory, these are people of production. And on the other hand, businessmen are thimbles.

        -----------------------
        I can describe one "man of production." The former racketeer, then became a businessman, devastated one plant, bought up his shares and organized an analogue nearby at the site of the former motor depot. As for "production", all production is mainly to buy foreign components and put them on the manufactured frame of its production ...
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 25 November 2015 12: 54 New
        0
        Quote: 34 region
        . Our region or region cannot compete economically with the Israelis. Why? Although probably there (in Israel) they steal. So can anyone answer this question? Only without cons. Only opinions.

        ! without cons!
        What does Israel produce? and how many?
        And how much does it spend on: infrastructure, social programs, the army ... borders ...? “Where does the indifferent of your aspirations go? ...” If in games with “pseudo-valuable papers”, then yes, you won’t be able to compete with them! And if in the "real economy" - then you need to look! Israel is a branch of Wall Street!
        ... and for each "unique operation" to transplant a skin from one wallet to another - they tear at exorbitant prices ... and not only in medicine!
        In addition - active trade in "brains", intelligence and intellectual products; what in the old days in the Union was given for nothing ... now we bite our elbows ...
        But in Israel - yes, they don’t steal! they just buy cheap ... very cheap - even for nothing; or picking up “abandoned, unnecessary and forgotten”, maybe by me ...
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        3. V.ic
          V.ic 25 November 2015 13: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: CONTROL
          and how many?

          Somewhere there was a figure that almost 40% of Srail’s foreign exchange earnings were the payment of the Germans (specifically Germany) “for the Holocaust”.
  8. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 25 November 2015 10: 20 New
    +3
    Quote: Kito
    Bullshit


    Write better. And where is the nonsense? Whole article, individual places or any thought? Argument with links. The article is somewhat difficult to read, but not crazy.
    1. Andrea
      Andrea 25 November 2015 10: 36 New
      +1
      The article is necessary, archival ... the trouble is that it’s like peas on the wall. Say no to how much sherbet will become sweeter.
  9. ivan bogomolov
    ivan bogomolov 25 November 2015 10: 21 New
    -2
    And who is to blame that we are RUSSIAN (RUSSIANS)?
  10. Alex_59
    Alex_59 25 November 2015 10: 22 New
    0
    3. Roads.
    Well, I don’t know, we (Perm) have roads in comparison with what was 10 years ago, just heaven and earth. There are certainly problems, there is something to complain about. But overall, the positive changes are obvious.
    4. "Poor pensioners"
    My parents, simple Soviet engineers get 14-15. Not a delight, but there is clearly no reason to hysteria.
  11. Gray 43
    Gray 43 25 November 2015 10: 23 New
    +9
    There are only two reasons for this situation — the untouchability and clannishness of power, one thing that Oboronservis is worth, but there are Skolkovo and other Rusnano.
    1. Same lech
      Same lech 25 November 2015 10: 28 New
      +6
      There are only two reasons for this situation — the untouchability and clannishness of power, one thing that Oboronservis is worth, but there are Skolkovo and other Rusnano.


      Soon there will be a SBERBANK ...
      Gref is running around with the idea of ​​privatizing SBERBANK ... transferring people's money, so to speak, into private pockets ... it is clear that after some time it will go bankrupt and people will say sorry for the crisis, you know ... now the crooks are insolently want to crank out a scam with a tidbit of the state.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 25 November 2015 10: 54 New
        +3
        It’s like at first the money from the sale will go to the state, and then the bankruptcy and the state will return this money to support it and pay extra! Well, this is a business! We are for personal freedom and liberal values ​​with a market economy and the invisible hand of the market. What is crime in fact?
  12. i80186
    i80186 25 November 2015 10: 24 New
    +1
    The essence of the article is an old joke.

    Any undertaking is always divided into four stages:
    1 - bullying;
    2 - obfuscation;
    3 - punishment of the innocent;
    4 - rewarding the uninvolved.
    1. corn
      corn 25 November 2015 11: 18 New
      0
      Quote: i80186
      Any undertaking is always divided into four stages:

      The first two: Big hype and big mess. I know in that interpretation.
  13. BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 25 November 2015 10: 26 New
    +3
    Roman, there may be nothing in Voronezh, but not everywhere, but in Semiluki they are in such a state that they felt like they were bombing in the year 43 and have not been repaired since
    1. 34 region
      34 region 25 November 2015 10: 57 New
      +2
      Balalaikin! No need to pull the blanket over yourself! We have been bombed a lot. There are enough funnels on the roads everywhere. Not enough asphalt.
  14. mag nit
    mag nit 25 November 2015 10: 26 New
    +5
    And for which party did the fabulist Roman Skomorokhov vote and for how much? Also under a pseudonym?
    1. kashtak
      kashtak 25 November 2015 10: 51 New
      +1
      I have heard about these 300-500s since the beginning of the 90s, after every election. Is it time for the prosecutor to demand evidence. or take action if unsubstantiated.
  15. U-96
    U-96 25 November 2015 10: 29 New
    +2
    Skomorokhov reached a new level. Previously, more and more on local issues spoke out, now "but do not we swing ..." on the eternal and beloved topic of geront on the benches and participants in talk shows. The article is slurred, the conclusion is banal - Who is to blame? - liberals and inert citizens. What to do? - stop consuming. Well, without the tag # road the article would not be complete laughing
  16. BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 25 November 2015 10: 30 New
    +2
    Russia has 2 troubles: fools and roads
    and if road equipment and pavers can help with one of the troubles, then no answer was found on what to do with roads
  17. Denis DV
    Denis DV 25 November 2015 10: 30 New
    +3
    We still live in a fairy tale where everything should be "at the command of the pike, at my will."


    Than the author sins laughing There are problems, I do not argue. The "political elite" are not cats that are quickly born laughing we are not better than others, we’ll have to be ill with all the “childhood diseases” associated with the growth and feeding of elites, it’s important that in “childhood” this would not die drinks laughing
  18. dorz
    dorz 25 November 2015 10: 31 New
    +5
    Confiscation of property for corruption crimes (including those rewritten to relatives) worldwide practice. Equate to serious crimes with no possibility of employment in administrative positions.
  19. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 25 November 2015 10: 31 New
    +8
    Quote: Baikonur
    Quote: author
    Who ensured this power and relative impunity and corruption? We voters.
    Are you serious? Those. You say that everything depends on us, the people? And even: WE ARE VOTERS? And in the elections "democratic" from 91 of the year - WE CHOOSE ?!
    Wow!


    Yes, we are to blame. I personally once participated in the elections. In the commission, not what you thought wink . And once was enough to understand: if you want nothing to depend on you, don’t vote. Everything unaccounted for the votes go to the one who pays the money or who has power at the moment. The only way to influence the election is to vote for yourself. Then those who “steers” have very little maneuver. And with the unanimity of citizens, maneuver does not remain at all. And conversations like: "nothing depends on us" - yes, it does not, if you do not give a damn about the fate of the country or you do not want changes.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 25 November 2015 11: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: S_Baykala
      Yes, we are to blame.

      Already one managed to instill a guilt complex ..
      What is the point of voting what? if all parties in the list differ only in names ?? some kind of arithmetic is obtained - from a rearrangement of terms, the sum does not change ...
  20. Lenin
    Lenin 25 November 2015 10: 34 New
    +5
    All problems come from a corrupt government that has grown together with the oligarchy and frankly thieves crime. For me, for example, an indicator that the traitor to EBN is still revered. What is the Yeltsin center in FIG, when we still cannot solve the problems created in the 90s in a drunken stupor.
    As for the inertia of the people, yes there is, but we must not forget about the falsification of election results. And it is not always the people's representatives who come to power.
    1. U-96
      U-96 25 November 2015 10: 39 New
      +7
      Quote: Lenin
      What is the Yeltsin Center in FIG

      totally agree. Idiocy. Full and hopeless. American tracing paper.
      Where is the money collected for the Stalin Center? I want to participate!
    2. goose
      goose 25 November 2015 12: 19 New
      +3
      The problem is that no matter which party wins, all the key officials involved in raising money will remain in their places and move to any party.
      1. U-96
        U-96 25 November 2015 13: 36 New
        +2
        Quote: goose
        will remain in their places and go to any party.

        mistake: not in "any", but in the party of power)
  21. Averias
    Averias 25 November 2015 10: 38 New
    0
    Bravo Roman! I, a long time ago it was, from a dope "sat" in the "Hyde Park" (did not know what the adder). He published a meditation article in tune with this one. At first they pecked, but then, then they supported it. An article entitled "WILL A MIRACLE Save Us" http://averias.livejournal.com/851.html.

    PS Sorry for the presentation in the article, I do not know the epistolary genre.
    1. U-96
      U-96 25 November 2015 10: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: Averias
      http://averias.livejournal.com/851.html.

      Jul. 29th, 2012 at 8: 35 PM

      Well, a miracle didn’t really happen in three years) Your essay is more like the heading "Letters from our readers" in a large circulation) I do not criticize, God forbid, no. I am in the sense of genre essence) You simply stated the obvious, and Skomorokhov is trying to contribute to the solution of two eternal Russian issues.
      1. Averias
        Averias 25 November 2015 11: 10 New
        +1
        I agree, and do not pretend. But the key is there, namely, someone must do something for us.
  22. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 25 November 2015 10: 39 New
    +2
    From this boiling and grunting of disgruntled people, it can and will degenerate either worthwhile .. we’re all tired of sitting in the train car which stands still, and recently drove back, and extras (media TV Internet) depict moving forward running under the Christmas trees yes with pines in their hands .. It’s not in vain that the EP is preparing an alternative for elections in the form of bunks. front and some other innovations from the New Year
    In the meantime, state-oligarchic capitalism is masked by a liberal idea - our train is going the wrong way ...
    ps One Christmas tree you carried Roman now under the window .. laughing I’m always adding your articles, but now the main message is not a balm for the soul of a wounded economy ..
  23. Metallurgist
    Metallurgist 25 November 2015 10: 43 New
    +9
    Hmm ... the author was carrying, and most importantly, it is not clear where ...
    The author, in addition to the Internet and the site, there is still real life. in which there is a wife / husband, relatives, children. Do not go to the Internet for at least a week, it may "allow".
    You undertake to talk about the problems of Russia sitting in Voronezh and seeing from Voronezh. Those. like a parochial look. "He is a barbarian, and thinks that the essence of the laws of his tribe is the essence of the laws of nature" (c) It seems so Shakespeare said, and in this case the old man was right.
    From your entire article there are only two correct guides: these are power and Western values ​​in the brain.
    Everything else - from (I wanted to write from the evil one, but changed my mind) those who are in power. And the issue is not about the elections, after all, the elections are a hoax. At any level. Well, maybe even in kindergarten and school, when the boys choose the captain of the football team of the class - there is also some kind of honesty, but everything else is a farce.
    This is not the problem of Russia. The problem of Russia is that we have a system error in personalities. Those. no generational change has occurred either in production, or in science, or in power. There is no that notorious social elevator. It turned out that the mayors appointed to senior positions and above do not understand that to manage something, one needs to understand this. That’s the trouble. There are no personnel, but nepotism. And this is a system error and the main problem of Russia.
    In short, I won’t put a minus article, but the article is frankly weak.
  24. BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 25 November 2015 10: 43 New
    +4
    Quote: U-96
    Quote: Lenin
    What is the Yeltsin Center in FIG

    totally agree. Idiocy. Full and hopeless. American tracing paper.
    Where is the money collected for the Stalin Center? I want to participate!

    I share hi
    1. U-96
      U-96 25 November 2015 10: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: Lalaika
      I share

      you’ll laugh - I could not resist six years ago in a antique shop in Germany and bought a bust of Generalissimo - Kasli casting! Ready to give to the Stalin Center.
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 25 November 2015 13: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: U-96
        Quote: Lalaika
        I share

        you’ll laugh - I could not resist six years ago in a antique shop in Germany and bought a bust of Generalissimo - Kasli casting! Ready to give to the Stalin Center.

        I also have Kalinin, and Lenin, and Felix - steel! and Brezhnev, more ... - Kusinsky casting, collection! True, in the company with the “devils" - the same casting, did not have to see? and the figure "mother Russia" ...
        1. U-96
          U-96 25 November 2015 13: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: CONTROL
          and Kalinin is, and Lenin, and Felix - steel! and Brezhnev, still

          impressive ...
          Quote: CONTROL
          . - Kusinsky casting, collection!

          Duc! this is not 3D printing for you! smile
  25. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 25 November 2015 10: 43 New
    +5
    And I don’t want to live like in the 50s - there are amenities in the yard, water from a barrel and a radio like “Record” and bread is not always plenty. Life is changing, progress and everything related: refrigerators, dishwashers, washing machines, mixers, blenders, microwaves, plasmas, honeycombs and personal cars. I have earned all these benefits of civilization by my work and do not want to refuse them. And not with the clerk, but with his own hands and head. Something like this. hi
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 26 November 2015 06: 06 New
      +5
      I’m interested in that, minusculers do not use the benefits of civilization and sent cons by pigeon mail ?!
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 26 November 2015 09: 16 New
        +5
        Listen, minus one! I sent your dove on the hood! fool
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  26. VEKT
    VEKT 25 November 2015 10: 43 New
    +1
    Essentially a question, whoever knows the procedure for recalling a deputy, if he is selected from party lists?
  27. bubalik
    bubalik 25 November 2015 10: 44 New
    +2
    And blackmail the recall of the deputy, if he doesn’t

    ,,, fl lucky, people resisted that zp
    3 months waiting, fired everyone, under the article ,,,
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    2. bubalik
      bubalik 25 November 2015 10: 52 New
      0
      Moderators, what are you doing? Censorship? Well, write to the rules.
  28. parusnik
    parusnik 25 November 2015 10: 46 New
    +1
    He worked as an environmentalist at our enterprise. He married successfully. His wife turned out to be the sister of his wife, head of the local branch of Sberbank. In 2008 .. there were local elections, for the post of head of the administration .. He participated in them .. But not at the command of the heart .. but according to another command .. it was necessary to pull the alternative candidate’s votes off .. Pull off .. got a post in the administration as a reward .. Over time, the piglet grew, grew and grew .. served in the deputy head for construction, something like that .. But not long ago, again in our town, another wind of change blew .. The town now has strategic importance .. ferry crossing with Crimea .. other things .. And as the "evil" local languages ​​say .. about the atrocities of the local administration came to the Kremlin .. The head felt the smell of the wind, fell ill .. left the post due to illness .. and went to be treated abroad, there, according to the same languages, he has a winery .. And they started to plant his deputies ... on the principle who didn’t hide, I’m not to blame .. The atrocities turned out to be big, only in one episode 18 million .. thefts ..
  29. [comment-show]
    russmensch
    russmensch 25 November 2015 10: 50 New
    0
    [quoteg] ... But we do not have Europe, no one will give anything.

    But this is absolutely correct. Therefore, refugees do not "come" to us. We need to work, and there you can live for free.
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  • russmensch
    russmensch 25 November 2015 10: 52 New
    +1
    ... But we do not have Europe, no one will give anything.

    But this is absolutely correct. Therefore, refugees do not "come" to us. We need to work, and there you can live for free.
  • veksha50
    veksha50 25 November 2015 10: 55 New
    +4
    "Who is to blame for the Russian problems?! ...

    The question asked is very voluminous and complicated ... So you just can’t answer ...
    1. The power. Unhappy with the authorities ... And where, in which country are unhappy with the authorities ??? The main negative is the lack of a mechanism to make the boyar deputies work, as well as allowing them to be recalled due to helplessness and unwillingness to work for voters, and, most importantly, to imprison them for using their boyar opportunities for personal purposes ...

    And as for purchases by the boyars of the votes - it’s not the boyars who are buying, it’s us (some of us voters) who are for sale ...

    2. Roads ... According to Russian law, they are (except federal) in the introduction of local authorities ... Let local authorities steal less from the already not huge local budgets ...
    Here we have put one governor for embezzlement (given 9,5 years), another came, and the roads have changed for the better. True, our new governor is the richest of all governors, but he will not take money from his own pocket on the road ???

    3. Pensioners ... A difficult question ... The pensioner himself ... And I never get tired of marveling at how different we all are ... Someone has a pension of 7500-8000 and does not ache, and has no debts for the housing and communal services .. Someone is between 18 and 24000, and aching and aching ... Putin is bad, there is not enough pension ... There is not enough grandson for a car, or granddaughter-granddaughter (granddaughter with a belly passed final exams for high school, gave birth through month and a half) for the maintenance of the child ... well, or something else like that ...

    So, - if we want changes in our lives to take place in accordance with our expectations and wishes, we will have to change the usual way of doing things and, most importantly, the way of thinking ...
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 25 November 2015 11: 31 New
      0
      Quote: veksha50
      with our expectations and wishes, we will have to change the usual way of doing things and, most importantly, the way of thinking ...

      Do you call for my friend’s revolution? .. laughing
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 25 November 2015 11: 57 New
        0
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        To reгdo you call the volunteers?



        I'm just thinking ... And to call and act is the destiny of the young, hot ...

        PS I really liked your "mistake" in the word "re-Evolution" ... Burr, my friend ... Really, do you yourself mark the new Ilyich ??? laughing
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 25 November 2015 13: 51 New
          +1
          Quote: veksha50
          Really mark in new Ilyich ???

          Yeah, the hut was built the other day in Razliv ...
  • Stauffenberg
    Stauffenberg 25 November 2015 10: 56 New
    -2
    It's time for Roman to move into politics. On the basis of VO to register a public organization and go! Who is to blame is now clear. What remains to do. In the suburbs with pleasure I will open a cell IN!
    1. U-96
      U-96 25 November 2015 11: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: Stauffenberg
      It's time for Roman to move into politics.

      He is weak for a politician. More precisely - no. This article does not pull on the program statement laughing
      1. Stauffenberg
        Stauffenberg 26 November 2015 09: 12 New
        0
        Familiar with him, which one?
  • Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 25 November 2015 11: 03 New
    +2
    In Primorsky Krai, on Victory Day for the whole day, a chain store holds promotions, retirees (by age) and participants pick up any products for free all day. I personally saw it in the store. Grannies with full carts past the cash register. At first I did not understand, then I read the ad. Not only that, the store’s employees help to stack goods, right there the taxi fussed and free of charge to the house with a lift to the floor. Well done.
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 25 November 2015 14: 19 New
      0
      At what store was this?
    2. Lenin
      Lenin 26 November 2015 09: 22 New
      0
      Quote: Shark Lover
      In Primorsky Krai, on Victory Day for the whole day, a chain store holds promotions, retirees (by age) and participants pick up any products for free all day. I personally saw it in the store. Grannies with full carts past the cash register. At first I did not understand, then I read the ad. Not only that, the store’s employees help to stack goods, right there the taxi fussed and free of charge to the house with a lift to the floor. Well done.

      You think so, and It seems to me that this is an elementary handout instead of establishing life in the country and providing decent living (I do not write the existence) to pensioners.
  • kashtak
    kashtak 25 November 2015 11: 04 New
    +2
    we read the article "This is generally a favorite topic of our liberals. Here, do not feed them bread, but let all the poor and pensioners benefit. If you listen to such organisms, then everyone who has retired is starving."
    in general, the indicated public favorite topic is the reduction of social costs. politics and social security. give them free rein to zero.
  • BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 25 November 2015 11: 04 New
    0
    Quote: 34 region
    Balalaikin! No need to pull the blanket over yourself! We have been bombed a lot. There are enough funnels on the roads everywhere. Not enough asphalt.

    hiWell, of course, now the governor will read what wonderful roads we have and generally leave asphalt without what
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 25 November 2015 11: 09 New
    +2
    And who said that someone is waiting for a freebie or some other manna? Just loafers and grumble that everything is bad. And normal citizens just work and they do not care about the roads and deputies. Everyone creates an acceptable world for themselves. And if everyone does this, then the country will be well-groomed, and not broken and falling apart. . And the roads are changing, for some several years it has become much better. Territorial problems need to be solved locally.
  • Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 25 November 2015 11: 10 New
    +2
    By the way, the roads we have, Federal-chic, to the Summit got bogged down. Not all creatures, although many. Here I have a neighbor who thumps, yells and doesn’t want to do a fuck. He doesn’t want to work a pension (a former military man) (55 years old), apparently he thinks he’s old. Pay at least a million to this, to no avail. Remember from the fable "......... is it not better for yourself, godfather, to turn around)))))
    1. Greenwood
      Greenwood 25 November 2015 14: 19 New
      0
      Yeah, chic, well. I drove the other day along the middle lane of a bridge over the Golden Horn. All in patches, patched-patched, the car is shaking, there is no question of any smoothness. Yes, and in the center of the road, frankly, not a fountain. Especially enraged artificially created pit wells that have to go round. So there are no normal roads in Vlad. Do not mislead people.
  • revnagan
    revnagan 25 November 2015 11: 13 New
    0
    In, the Christmas trees are green, it turns out that the wrong people are elected in Russia, and then they can’t change anything and they’re “to blame for it themselves.” And they were so crucified that it’s in Ukraine voters-debs. They themselves have chosen such power. say, in the whole post-Soviet space the same problems are due to the same people (oligarch capitalists), and they can be solved by the same methods.
  • V.ic
    V.ic 25 November 2015 11: 16 New
    +3
    I didn’t seem to have missed the elections, I dropped ballots into the ballot box, but only since 1991 the situation in the country has not improved for some reason. And it is thought that it is not the matter of the voters, but of those specific owners of the once common property of the people. What is good GDP? The fact that he forced "our" oligarchs to "unfasten" money for state needs. But in order to throw a reins of progressive tax on these people, he sharply weakened, for some reason. Financial assets from the Russian Federation flow into foreign banks, incl. and in the "bins" USA, the so-called The Fed, to return to us the same short-term loans. Who will feed the Russian industry with cheap loans? In the West, there are no IDDs, for some reason, they do not want to grow a competitor. And why did they get into the WTO? Is Russia still a global industrial and agricultural giant? The author of the article is right with respect to the desirability of applying the remaining energy in us to the solution of specific domestic political problems, butWhen the country lacks a nationwide development idea, our Brownian movement is not able to move the country from the “fifth” point. For those who did not understand my extreme thought, I will cite the example of the character "Ariel" from the book of the science fiction writer A. Belyaev: he was able to fly when his teacher taught him to organize the Brownian motion.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 25 November 2015 11: 36 New
      0
      Quote: V.ic
      I’ve never missed an election,

      Elections, State Duma .. it's all a fiction and a mirage behind which there is nothing .. the decoration needed to play "democracy"
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 25 November 2015 13: 41 New
        0
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        Elections, State Duma .. it's all a fiction and a mirage behind which there is nothing .. the decoration needed to play "democracy"

        Living in a society is not possible to be free from it. I do NOT like the current oligarchic regime. I do NOT like the lack of a “against all” position in the ballots. I do NOT like it when at a turnout of less than 50%, "the elections are recognized as held." However, as a citizen of the Russian Federation, I MUST go to the polls.
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 25 November 2015 13: 54 New
          0
          Quote: V.ic
          . However, as a citizen of the Russian Federation, I MUST go to the polls.

          NOT OBLIGATORY - this is the free will of citizens ..
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 26 November 2015 06: 01 New
            0
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            it free: declaration of will citizens ..

            Free = that no one has the right to interfere with you, expression of will: expression = this действиеAnd not inactione. you required to participate in the election.
  • buzerrezub
    buzerrezub 25 November 2015 11: 23 New
    0
    the message of the article is clear, the deputies are to blame for everything, although it was the Communists, KGB, oligarchs, traffic cops and other cops who were corrupt ... but now the electorate has a new source for you in the State of Raseisk !!! deputies !!! eat on health ...
  • press officer
    press officer 25 November 2015 11: 24 New
    +2
    Quote: Temples
    Or maybe the system of government is not that?
    If people are not happy, maybe you need to listen to people?
    Recall that we are not only and not so much the electorate and voters, but above all PEOPLE, residents of our country?



    I will explain as an official. Slightly .. to understand our population. Any of us, having gotten to a warmer place (we will not focus on government officials) to any place (directors \ department heads \ kiosk managers \ public toilet cleaner \ seller, etc.) - ALWAYS WILL PUMP EVERYTHING BAD LIES ! AT THE STATE YES! AT YOURSELF IN THE STORE YES! HIMSELF ON THE TOILET (oh! Free toilet paper !!!) - YES! And how we love to poke pens \ fax paper (it’s not clear why, but it will come in handy) \ EVERYTHING YOU CAN WASH - WE FISH! NOT DEPENDENT ON OFFICE! And when the position gives the opportunity not only to receive a good salary, but also to steal (and suddenly?!) Something! And I know for myself, they offered it once and not twice, by the type of "barter" (remember, in the 80s it was like that). So who taught power to bribes? Did not try to offer? It is sad of course, but 90% of ALL of us are put on a less warm job and you will see how a person changes and what values ​​will become most important to him! And the remaining 10% (like me) will stupidly work for the good of the Motherland, wondering how you can have something from it, except for the legitimate s / n!
    SO DON'T JUDGE ON FUCKING PEOPLE WHO DIGGER ALREADY VERY EXPRESSLY! Judge for yourself! NOT ALL OFFICIALS ARE SAME ... HOW THESE.
    P.S. I once participated in the election of a deputy, I realized one guys! and we are so easy to get presents! on bags from deputies! Already disgusting! Older people (I respect, no doubt, BUT) - this is who has the money (for the majority) but they wait all the time when they will bring everything for free, pour it and feed it! Because they are pensioners!
    I saw pensioners who buy (!!!) gold! grandfather bought grandmother every week! And in appearance like two homeless people! And as I got a pack of dibs, I got crazy! Other shoes with clothes are being bought up!
    And God be with them, only now they are conducted on deputy "handouts"! And then they go to vote for them! They are the main electorate (the rest are lazy and have no time!) And then, those who could buy them and those who knew how to speak correctly and on the topic remain in power!
    After all, take any of us, well, who will monitor their porch or yard so that everything is done !? And nobody! What should they do? Here! They (pensioners) from us choose local power! Draw conclusions gentlemen! Do not judge by any freaks, but first learn how to participate in the life of the population!
  • BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 25 November 2015 11: 26 New
    0
    Quote: sergeybulkin
    This is generally a favorite topic of our liberassov. I don’t feed them with bread, but give all the poor and retirees a favor. If you listen to these organisms, so we have everyone who retired, starving.

    Immediately evident, the author is not a pensioner. We have a majority pension - this is a living wage of 6500 - 7500 rubles. This is enough not to die of hunger and pay, well, let's say for the light. What's next? You can still live in the village somehow, and the cities rent for odnushka comes to 6000 rubles. How to live there ??? They want to raise their retirement age, but where will these people who are already over 60 work? Now after 45 years they’re not taking anywhere! No words only emotions!!! am

    this is how many meters do you have odnushka dear? Or from your odnushka view of the Kremlin? I pay 71-1800 r per month for my 2000 square
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 25 November 2015 11: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Lalaika
      this is how many meters you have odnushka dear?


      I have odnushka - 28,6 squares, for October I paid 3400 (without hot water and a small piece for heating). In November, when the accruals for heat go to full, there will be much more. Just don’t think that I am sleeping, there are simply different tariffs for housing and communal services in different regions.
    2. Greenwood
      Greenwood 25 November 2015 14: 22 New
      0
      What region do you live in?
      PS In Vladivostok, we pay 6-8 tyr for much smaller living space.
    3. skeptic31
      skeptic31 25 November 2015 19: 43 New
      -1
      How did you get to the moon, Monsignor? There are no such rates on Earth. And no, not somewhere, but in general. Do you even understand that your 2000 is from the category of a joke. There are three of us, and the apartment is smaller than yours, but we pay 4 (!?!) Times more. And my sister pays even more than ours. It’s very interesting what your 2000s are made up of. So much they tear off for one overhaul.
  • tyras85
    tyras85 25 November 2015 11: 29 New
    +2
    To the author of the article. Truth, its knowledge, desire for it, will occur ETERNALLY as long as humanity exists. This is not a static category, but the desire of mankind to reveal the origins of the pristine!
    In such a short article, it is not possible to reflect 0000000000000,1 topics. Institutions work on it.
    Books, dissertations, etc. were written. The article would call: "Who is to blame for domestic Russian problems." So it would be clearer.
    (-) The author did not. The truth will always be "somewhere near."
  • S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 25 November 2015 11: 35 New
    +4
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    Quote: S_Baykala
    Yes, we are to blame.

    Already one managed to instill a guilt complex ..
    What is the point of voting what? if all parties in the list differ only in names ?? some kind of arithmetic is obtained - from a rearrangement of terms, the sum does not change ...


    I explain on the fingers, if you have not read or thought. If you do not vote, the winner is 100% who is in power or who pays money. If you vote for those who are better (who's stopping you from reading the biography of the nominated candidates, the election platform, choosing the best one, analyzing it, spending an hour or two of your precious time?) - the chances of the taxi drivers will be assessed depending on the situation : 0 to 100%. Percentage will depend from U.S. And then the one whom the population has chosen will come to power (maybe not immediately). Ie there is a chance, but with the previous position there are no options.
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 25 November 2015 13: 55 New
      0
      Quote: S_Baykala
      with the previous position, there are no options.

      All the same, they did not convince ..
  • Alexzora
    Alexzora 25 November 2015 11: 43 New
    -3
    The author is right.
    Before throwing words, personally answer simple questions:
    1. Surname, name, patronymic of your district police officer and his contact details? Name of deputies you voted for in 2015?
    2. What articles does your family budget consist of?
    3. The name and full name of the director of the road-operating departments in which road maintenance do you use 90% of the time?
    4. Amount of contributions to the PFR, to a personal pension fund?
    5. What is the personal worldview?
    1. corn
      corn 25 November 2015 12: 00 New
      +2
      Quote: AlexZora
      Before throwing words, personally answer simple questions

      1. There are 02.
      2. For myself I know.
      3. And also directors of a management company, directors of shops, a pub, etc.
      4.Remind or know how this is formed and how to check.
      5. How is it?
      1. U-96
        U-96 25 November 2015 12: 19 New
        +2
        Quote: AlexZora
        5. What is the personal worldview?

        Quote: corn
        5. How is it?
        wrong answer... laughing
        1. corn
          corn 25 November 2015 12: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: U-96
          wrong answer...

          If so, then yes.
        2. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 25 November 2015 13: 58 New
          0
          Quote: U-96
          wrong answer..

          Your political credo -Always
          and very well suited - I will give you parabellum .. laughing
          1. U-96
            U-96 25 November 2015 14: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            and very well suited - I will give you parabellum ..
  • corn
    corn 25 November 2015 11: 45 New
    +2
    AUTO RU.
    Quote: “For those who are at the machine tool or the helm of the harvester, there is nothing special to do on the Internet. So, after work, have fun. But there is no time to write long intellects.”
    I understand that the author came to have fun, after:
    "Yesterday I finished forging, I tinned two plans
    And ................
    Soot, soot washed off in the shower
    Ate a cold ide ... "(V.S. Vysotsky) ... And he came to teach how to live.

    Quote: "Do not wait for the authorities to bring everything and put it in your mouth, but demand that the authorities properly perform their duties. By any means available."
    I, I think that nobody puts anything in my mouth. And the available method is elections with a clear head and sober memory, or with a sober head and clear memory.
    I agree with some thoughts of the article. With the section "Senior Citizens" and "Western Values" I do not completely agree.
    The author tells his tale.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 25 November 2015 13: 47 New
      0
      Quote: corn
      The author tells his tale.

      Tell yours and you will be even.
      1. corn
        corn 25 November 2015 14: 36 New
        +1
        Quote: V.ic
        Tell your

        I am a reader and I do not pretend to be a graphomaniac. I am even with the author, he expressed his thoughts, I - my.
  • Ivan Tucha
    Ivan Tucha 25 November 2015 11: 45 New
    +6
    From your bell tower on points:
    1 Power.
    Yes, a long time ago I did not go to the polls, well, put me in a corner. You read the bulletins and wonder how they are, and what have you done, even if not for the country, but at least for your entrance, at home? Who to vote for?
    Here is my comrade (a former officer, then he wandered around the secret police, there is a honey business, it’s bad so far afloat) he’s been trying to get there for a year, he wants to change something for the better. So far, thank God, he remains a normal man, but he says bluntly - if you are not United Russia, the road there is blocked by minefields or is closed at all. Apparently therefore, while floundering somewhere below.
    2 Privatization, money, personal success.
    Of course, many have profiled, there is no arguing. Achievements are personal ..., I bought a house in the village, I'm trying to raise it, I almost got rid of loans, we slowly get out of the shit. And youth .., there were opportunities, but there were no brains, they didn’t say anything ...
    3 Roads.
    There are none, even where they were. On our coast of Msta there are 18 settlements that can only be reached by boat. In the period of formation-breaking of ice, crossing is not possible. But the road was! Of the answer came to me of the answer - not on the balance of the district. And who removed it from this balance is interesting? Why now even a fire and an ambulance loaf cannot get to people? So I’ve been chopping over an already broken year. And I’m breaking the law - cutting down is forbidden and nobody cares that I’ll gat the box again, I slap the road to my house instead of the district. Somehow not giving in particular details.
    4 Senior Citizens.
    The archive burned down at one time on Dickson and here is my father, one of the best meteorological engineers of the former USSR, a person about whom magazines and newspapers wrote, whose work his comrade Chilingarov defended his thesis could not prove despite all the certificates from the Central Internal Affairs Directorate, the Amderma Administration that he really froze snot for more than 20 years for the good of the Motherland and as a result gets 4800 a month ... But mother was lucky. I was lucky with the girl who designed it, with the girl who was able to somehow get around this bad system and assign her the pension that she deserved over the years of work on the Poles. What can we say about the benefits, sections of which have not been waited for and so on ... Something like this ...
    5 West values.
    No comment, since I generally agree ...
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 25 November 2015 11: 48 New
    +1
    for its "three rubles" it is necessary to lay out about 3 per month

    Yes, you live in Voronezh curly, a sin to complain. In Khabarovsk for the "kopeck piece" in the winter under 8tys runs.
    we have no Europe, nobody will give anything

    And what do the Europeans give besides, so far, a normal pension? In Europe, they give only to migrants, but they take from their own.
  • BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 25 November 2015 11: 50 New
    0
    Quote: B.T.W.
    Quote: Lalaika
    this is how many meters you have odnushka dear?


    I have odnushka - 28,6 squares, for October I paid 3400 (without hot water and a small piece for heating). In November, when the accruals for heat go to full, there will be much more. Just don’t think that I am sleeping, there are simply different tariffs for housing and communal services in different regions.

    this is where such prices, if not secret
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 25 November 2015 11: 59 New
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      Quote: Lalaika
      this is where such prices, if not secret


      It’s not a secret, but the town of Fokino, Primorsky Krai.
  • BaLaLaykin
    BaLaLaykin 25 November 2015 11: 56 New
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    Quote: Lalaika
    I share

    you’ll laugh - I could not resist six years ago in a antique shop in Germany and bought a bust of Generalissimo - Kasli casting! Ready to give to the Stalin Center.


    there’s nothing to laugh at, the great man was
    1. U-96
      U-96 25 November 2015 12: 02 New
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      Quote: Lalaika
      there’s nothing to laugh at, the great man was

      Yes, no, I mean, I was pulling a bust of Stalin through half of Europe in the trunk of a car. To the homeland. Such an irony)