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Reuters: Military aircraft crashed in Syria near the Turkish border

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A military plane crashed today in Syria near the Turkish border, reports RIA News Reuters report.


Reuters: Military aircraft crashed in Syria near the Turkish border


According to the agency, referring to the Turkish channel Haberturk TV, neither the type of aircraft, nor its belonging to any country, is yet unknown.

According to some reports, the pilots (pilot) managed to eject.

The information is contradictory. According to one version, the plane crashed on the border with Turkey, according to another - in the area of ​​Latakia.

According to a report from the Russian Ministry of Defense, "IN SYRIA ON THE BORDER WITH TURKEY, THE RUSSIAN PLANE SU-24 PLAYED DECLINED, EFFECTIVELY, AS A RESULT OF EARTH SHOT."

“Today, on the territory of Syria, allegedly as a result of shelling from the ground, a plane of a Russian air group in the Syrian Arab Republic Su-24 crashed,” the Defense Ministry said in a statement.

“The plane was at an altitude of 6 thousands of meters. The fate of the pilots is specified. According to preliminary data, the pilots managed to eject. It also turns out the circumstances of the fall of the Russian aircraft. The Ministry of Defense notes that the entire flight time the aircraft was located solely over the territory of Syria. This is fixed by objective means of control. ”


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  1. Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 24 November 2015 11: 25 New
    20
    Campaign affairs our plane.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 24 November 2015 11: 26 New
      +6
      Quote: Scandinavian
      Campaign affairs our plane.

      Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 24 November 2015 11: 28 New
        54
        Well, why should you shout ahead of time with unsubstantiated conclusions !? Just like the Yanks plane, a Malaysian Boeing was shot down and Russia was immediately blamed! Do not be like! Maybe it's stored in French! Of course I hope not ours!
        neither the type of aircraft nor its affiliation with any country is yet known.


        P.S. At the moment
        The representative confirmed that a Turkish F-16 aircraft shot down an unknown military aircraft after violating the country's airspace.

        The plane crashed in the Syrian province of Latakia. According to unconfirmed reports, he was Russian. Two pilots ejected.

        This is Newspaper.ru

        Damn, if ours was shot down, then in the light of the latest events and speeches of Putin, Lavrov - this is a declaration of warriors!
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 11: 36 New
          +4
          Quote: Scandinavian
          Campaign affairs our plane.

          So for sure, Russian. http://news.rambler.ru/incidents/32022819/
          Although according to other sources, the Syrian.

          Either a malfunction or air defense of the middle hand. What was mentioned more than once. The main thing now is to ensure the evacuation of the pilot.

          PS
          More accurate data can be obtained at 20:00 Moscow time, Russia 24, or Russia 1. P.t. in the first minutes there is usually a mess. Who hit whom.
          1. Telakh
            Telakh 24 November 2015 12: 12 New
            +1
            There is information that our su-24 overwhelmed the Turkish f-16 over the territory of Syria when it was taken into account, after which the su-24 shot down the Turks from the ground.
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 12: 17 New
              23
              Quote: Telakh
              There is information that our su-24 blocked the Turkish f-16 over the territory of Syria when it was taken into account, after which the su-24s were shot down by Turks

              It doesn’t matter if it was shot down by a Turkish plane or was shot down by the Turks from the ground. Now it’s important what we will do. Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???
              1. uhu189
                uhu189 24 November 2015 12: 20 New
                19
                Support the Kurds with the Workers Party of Kurdistan. There are no other counter options.
                1. _Vladislav_
                  _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 12: 41 New
                  14
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???

                  Well, for starters, calm, without nerves, bring the RF Armed Forces into full combat. What seems to me already done.

                  Further clarification of the reasons for this action. If it’s Turks, then ask - haven’t you messed up something? If not beguiled. That their plane gets off. Since there was an attack on the Russian Federation, Turkey is an aggressor state, and not an aggressor in words - like in Ukraine, but not in deed. And by and large it must be stopped.

                  P.t. an attack on a Russian plane is an attack on the territory of R.F. The fact is very serious. P.t. planes do not crash when breaking the border, of course you didn’t want to fight. If the aircraft is adequate, it does not go astray. I do not think that drying broke through to Istanbul.

                  In any case, all this brings us back to the stage, not of a hybrid, but of the Cold War. Where before the real war, 5 minutes will remain.
                  1. NEXUS
                    NEXUS 24 November 2015 12: 46 New
                    +8
                    Quote: _Vladislav_
                    P.t. planes do not crash when breaking the border, of course you didn’t want to fight.

                    Вся эта история очень походит на диверсию.И понятно от куда ветер дует.Слишком быстро раскручивается эта пружина войны.Если это диверсия,то военное противостояние с НАТО нам сейчас никак не нужно.Плохо все,очень плохо ...не думаю что ВВП это "проглотит".Это прямое обьявление войны по сути.
                    1. _Vladislav_
                      _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 12: 54 New
                      +8
                      Quote: NEXUS
                      This is a direct declaration of war in essence.

                      Quite right - this is an attack on R.F. And not from the side of abstract ISIS, but from the side of a completely sovereign state. Which decided to fight with the Russian Federation.

                      And it doesn’t matter who thought them up, or yourself. This attack on the Russian Federation, how to respond to the attack. Well, different countries in different ways. But a country at the level of Russia is obliged to respond to force by force.

                      What should Russia do in such a situation? Providing protection to your aircraft, as it is, is not so important.
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                      2. Throw
                        Throw 24 November 2015 13: 04 New
                        +3
                        What to do?
                        Beat our pilots from the Syrian Turkmens!
                        http://www.rbc.ru/politics/24/11/2015/565421979a794785532e1976
                      3. miru mir
                        miru mir 24 November 2015 13: 17 New
                        +2
                        Now, definitely. Miss time, transported deep into Syria, but put into the basement, under some kind of mosque.
                      4. The lead
                        The lead 24 November 2015 14: 32 New
                        +1
                        Quote: Lance
                        Beat our pilots from the Syrian Turkmens!
                        One pilot died.
                  2. atalef
                    atalef 24 November 2015 13: 00 New
                    +2
                    Quote: _Vladislav_
                    Quite right - this is an attack on R.F. And not from the side of abstract ISIS, but from the side of a completely sovereign state. Which decided to fight with the Russian Federation


                    If we consider a violation of the airspace of a sovereign state (on which Turkey insists 0 and more than once - then of course
                    Quote: _Vladislav_
                    . This is an attack on the Russian Federation,

                    Now it does not play a role.
                    what's with the pilots
                    ?
                    Quote: _Vladislav_
                    But a country at the level of Russia is obliged to respond to force by force

                    There will be no answer.
                  3. Scraptor
                    Scraptor 24 November 2015 13: 04 New
                    +2
                    Почему так в этом уверен? Если мы правы, то будет, причем не один, и с "особым цинизмом".
                  4. EvilLion
                    EvilLion 24 November 2015 13: 13 New
                    +1
                    He should know better in the promised land.
                  5. Temples
                    Temples 24 November 2015 14: 28 New
                    +2
                    What does the promised land have to do with it ???
                    Here the answer to the declaration of war borders.
                    You can’t flog a fever. It is a fact.
                    And the answer is needed, but what? This is a question for specialists.
                  6. Scraptor
                    Scraptor 24 November 2015 20: 24 New
                    0
                    Quote: Temples
                    Here the answer to the declaration of war borders.

                    It is possible without an announcement ... But the downing of an airplane, and the more than a greyhound subsequent behavior, is or borders on what?

                    Always punished for this ... They will punish here.
                2. _Vladislav_
                  _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 14: 43 New
                  +2
                  Quote: atalef
                  There will be no answer.

                  If it still turns out that the co-pilot died, I do not envy Turkey, and to all who support it.

                  The Turks understood what we were doing in Syria, they understood what the RF Armed Forces were. In addition, the official Kremlin has denied violating the Turkish border. And that means it smells like kerosene.

                  In addition, the Ministry of Defense understands that if they do not answer this, they will bring down another plane.
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                4. atalef
                  atalef 24 November 2015 14: 48 New
                  +2
                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  If it still turns out that the co-pilot died, I do not envy Turkey, and to all who support it.

                  The victim is not a problem - a living problem.
                  About the dead - they will forget in 3 days, with the live showdown long (or do you think it will be returned tomorrow?) Turkmens.

                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  Turks understood what we do in Syria

                  They understand, just why did you decide that you support?

                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  In addition, the official Kremlin has denied violating the Turkish border. And that means it smells like kerosene.

                  I don’t think so. check in the coming days
                  Quote: veksha50
                  Both seemed to be catapulted, and our helicopters are looking for them.

                  I do not think that the rescue operation will be successful. helicopters in the highlands fill up no problem, and the Turkmens at home. Look for them there in the caves.
                5. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 24 November 2015 14: 53 New
                  +4
                  Quote: _Vladislav_
                  In addition, the Ministry of Defense understands that if they do not answer this, they will bring down another plane.

                  And not only the Turks will be able to do this then, but the British and Americans ... besides, we need to understand what resonance it all produced within the Russian Federation ... and the GDP understands that the people are waiting for an answer, moreover, quite comparable.
                6. Scraptor
                  Scraptor 25 November 2015 07: 40 New
                  0
                  Even if they have not yet been knocked down, it’s all the same for what, and how, they did, they should take revenge ...
          2. shuhartred
            shuhartred 24 November 2015 13: 19 New
            +2
            Quote: atalef
            If we consider a violation of the airspace of a sovereign state (on which Turkey insists 0 and more than once - then of course

            It is still necessary to prove it. And shoot down only if it does not respond to warnings.
            Quote: atalef
            There will be no answer.

            Согласен. Но не потому что у нас "сопли" жуют, а по объективным причинам. Корейский боинг сбили в 88(или в каком?), сбили. Была ответка? Нет. Пауэрса сбили и тоже по нулям(хотя там америкосам предъявить было нечего, вон куда забрался гад)
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          4. Russiamoy
            Russiamoy 24 November 2015 14: 42 New
            +2
            there will be no answer, since there is nothing to answer. what will we do if Turkey closes the strait for us, so there will be nothing in return.
      2. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 24 November 2015 13: 22 New
        0
        .... There will be no answer ....

        ....Не уверен....Уж очень ВВП разозлили со сбитым "аирбасом".....
      3. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 13: 31 New
        +6
        Quote: atalef
        1.If you consider a violation of the airspace of a sovereign state (as Turkey insists on 0 and repeated - then of course
        2. Now does not play a role.
        what's with the pilots
        ?
        But a country at the level of Russia is obliged to respond to force by force
        3. There will be no answer.


        1. Violation of space, when there are battles along the border, this is a normal phenomenon solved at the level of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or presidents.
        2: Pilots, according to the Turks, captured by Turkish special forces.
        3. There will be several answers.
        - Turkish planes will be shot down over the territories of Syria and Iraq;
        - the flights of Russian planes will be guarded by attack aircraft and fighters, which will destroy missile positions on the ground, do not give a damn that it is Turkey and they will shoot down attacking planes;
        - the departure of Russians to Turkey will be banned;
        - Russia will abandon the Turkish stream and accelerate gas supplies to China;
        - there will be a harsh warning at the ambassadorial level;
        - there will be a conversation of the Presidents.
        And if Turkey embarks on the path of confrontation, it will receive the full program with the slightest violation of the borders of Syria and Iraq. For any attempts to cross the border by militants or their units.
        If I were to solve such issues, then I would still begin to destroy the militant camps in Turkey and would help modern weapons to Kurdish rebels in Turkey.
      4. _Vladislav_
        _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 13: 42 New
        +4
        Quote: atalef
        If we consider a violation of the airspace of a sovereign state (on which Turkey insists 0 and more than once - then of course

        Turks fly illegally over Syria, so it turns out they also need to be shot down.
        Quote: atalef
        There will be no answer.

        In these minutes, it’s just being decided what the answer is and what it will be.
        But first, Turkey must officially confirm that this is her business.

        The crash of a Russian Air Force aircraft is either a tragic accident (malfunction) or an attack.
        If somewhere in the world a plane of the Air Force of the Russian Federation crashed, this may not mean anything, but may mean the beginning of the war.
      5. atalef
        atalef 24 November 2015 14: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        Turks fly illegally over Syria, so it turns out they also need to be shot down.

        Yeah!

        Quote: _Vladislav_
        In these minutes, it’s just being decided what the answer is and what it will be. But first, Turkey must officially confirm that this is her doing.

        Confirmed
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        The crash of a Russian Air Force aircraft is either a tragic accident (malfunction) or an attack. If somewhere in the world a plane of the Air Force of the Russian Federation crashed, this may not mean anything, but may mean the beginning of the war.

        nobody for the sake of Assad will begin the 3rd world
      6. Znayka
        Znayka 24 November 2015 14: 15 New
        +5
        But to start World War III, it’s not necessary, the number of Russian tourists in Turkey in a year is about 3 million. The first is a complete ban on the entry of our tourists into Turkey, and through neighboring countries. What will entail huge financial losses in the tourism business of this country (about $ 2 billion per year). The second, third and fourth on the development of the situation ... It would be ridiculous to fulfill contracts for energy supplies to the aggressor .., quickly fill the gap in the supply of the same gas (1 billion cubic meters per year, more than 27.4 % of total consumption) Turkey will not be able to, that is, literally in a couple of months, most industrial enterprises will just get up .., the population will have to warm food on the street at the stake ... So even without declaring war, Erdogan’s life can be very complicated hi
      7. _Vladislav_
        _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 14: 28 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        nobody for the sake of Assad will begin the 3rd world

        Will see
      8. Oleg16661
        Oleg16661 24 November 2015 16: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        nobody for the sake of Assad will begin the 3rd world

        And where does Assad?
        It was not a Syrian plane that was shot down, but a Russian one. If they shot down a Syrian plane, then ours, most likely, would have scolded the Turks a little and that’s all.
        Here, there was an attack on an airplane of the Russian Federation, which flew over the territory of Syria, but this does not mean that it lost its membership in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Moreover, he flew legally, unlike the so-called coalition aircraft.
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 14: 14 New
      +1
      Quote: _Vladislav_
      But first, Turkey must officially confirm that this is her business.

      This is not at all necessary. Russia is fighting a war in this zone. All of its facilities monitor airspace. All missile launches from the ground and aircraft flights are easily recorded by our overseas tracking stations. In your opinion, it turns out that it is possible, for example, to attack by ground forces, to destroy everything around, to take people into slavery, then return beyond their borders and then claim that it’s not us, prove that it’s us.
    3. The lead
      The lead 24 November 2015 14: 35 New
      +1
      It is necessary to break diplomatic relations. Destroying an airplane and killing a pilot is an act of war. We must act quickly and decisively.
  2. opus
    opus 24 November 2015 14: 36 New
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    If we consider a violation of the airspace of a sovereign state (on which Turkey insists 0 and more than once - then of course

    "радуют" конкретные заявления "товарищей" израильтян.
    1. Repeated violations of the airspace of the Israeli Air Force, such countries as:
    Lebanon, Syria, Egypt.
    UN and Israeli Foreign Ministry inundated with notes
    2. Repeated strikes by the Israeli Air Force on the territories of such countries (moreover sovereign): Syria, Iraq
    (In June 1981, Israeli aircraft bombed the Osirak nuclear reactor near the Iraqi capital. In September 2007, Israeli aircraft attacked an object in Syria, where, according to Israel, the United States and many experts, the Syrians were building a nuclear reactor.)
    3. There were more:

    4. The Israeli Air Force’s striking plans for the uranium enrichment plant in Natanz south of Tehran, as well as an underground plant in Fordo near the Shiite holy city of Qom, a heavy water processing plant in Arak.This is Iran, by the way..
    those. even the territory of 3 countries
    -------------------------------------------------- ---
    Moreover, the Israeli Air Force attacks strikingly weak countries (without strong air defense and the Air Force), not during the war, against sovereign endeavors, without any UN mandate, guided by its own interests.
    "Бесстрашно" имея за спиной дядьку -бандита (самого сильного на планете) в лице США
  3. Weyland
    Weyland 24 November 2015 22: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: opus
    Moreover, the Israeli Air Force attacks strikingly weak countries (without strong air defense and the Air Force), not during the war


    The fact is that Israel is officially at war with almost all its Arab neighbors - just now truce. А нарушение перемирия - гораздо менее серьезное преступление, чем нарушения мира, чем богоизбранные вовсю и пользуются, благо "крыша" у них надежная - while.
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  5. Rrrj
    Rrrj 24 November 2015 14: 44 New
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    But a country at the level of Russia is obliged to respond to force by force
    There will be no answer.

    Not for you to decide.
  6. veksha50
    veksha50 24 November 2015 13: 22 New
    +4
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    What should Russia do in such a situation? Providing protection to your aircraft, as it is, is not so important.


    There must be some adequate answer ... here's what ???

    I don’t envy Putin ... we need to make a decision ... Forgive - our feet will be wiped out about us ...

    PS No matter how Erdogan, bastard, went down in history as the instigator of the third world war ...
  7. Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 24 November 2015 13: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: veksha50
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    What should Russia do in such a situation? Providing protection to your aircraft, as it is, is not so important.


    There must be some adequate answer ... here's what ???

    I don’t envy Putin ... we need to make a decision ... Forgive - our feet will be wiped out about us ...

    PS No matter how Erdogan, bastard, went down in history as the instigator of the third world war ...



    А вот тут и будет понятно, кто просто потрепаться, а кто "пацан".
  8. _Vladislav_
    _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 13: 51 New
    +3
    Quote: veksha50
    There must be some adequate answer ... here's what ???

    Adequate is to bring down a Turkish Air Force plane. This is adequate.
  9. veksha50
    veksha50 24 November 2015 15: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    Adequate is to bring down a Turkish Air Force plane. This is adequate.



    Нет... Этого мало... Значит, ответ должен быть НЕадекватный... Но такой, чтобы не только Эрдоган на себе испытал, а чтобы и турецкий народ ему "спасибо" сказал...
  10. NEXUS
    NEXUS 24 November 2015 15: 25 New
    +4
    Quote: veksha50
    Нет... Этого мало... Значит, ответ должен быть НЕадекватный... Но такой, чтобы не только Эрдоган на себе испытал, а чтобы и турецкий народ ему "спасибо" сказал...

    In Brussels, an urgent commission gathered on the fact that our bomber was shot down ... something quickly and efficiently. I think it was not planned yesterday. That is, a provocation on the subject of forcing the GDP to make concessions on the Syrian issue, at the same time checking the Kremlin’s resolve.
  11. Gani
    Gani 24 November 2015 15: 53 New
    +1
    да не говорите, такое ощущение что сегодня все одно к одному и опухший главвеликукр со своими опусами в "поддержку" крымских татар и Кэмерон с оборонными бумажками и претензиями, что РФ косо смотрит на НАТО и еще были...
  12. veksha50
    veksha50 24 November 2015 20: 09 New
    0
    Quote: NEXUS
    I think this was not all planned yesterday. That is, a provocation on the subject of forcing the GDP to make concessions on the Syrian issue, at the same time checking the Kremlin’s resolve.



    About two hours ago I came across an interview with our combat pilot ... His opinion: the operation was planned, and they waited for the case to happen ... That is, practically, like an ambush regiment group, he says that the pilot guys could not even to think and expect that weapons will be used against them, since even in more complex cases in international practice, weapons are not used and planes are not shot down ...
  13. NEXUS
    NEXUS 24 November 2015 20: 20 New
    +1
    Quote: veksha50

    About two hours ago I came across an interview with our combat pilot ... His opinion: the operation was planned, and they waited for the case to happen ... That is, practically, like an ambush regiment group, he says that the pilot guys could not even to think and expect that weapons will be used against them, since even in more complex cases in international practice, weapons are not used and planes are not shot down ...

    Question-Why did our bomber fly WITHOUT COVERING fighters? Despite the fact that more than once or twice the Turks announced that they would shoot down our planes.
  14. atalef
    atalef 24 November 2015 23: 08 New
    +1
    Quote: veksha50
    No ... This is not enough ... So, the answer must be INadequate ..

    start with a simple one, after the Turkish provocation with Mavi Marmara, the Israelis simply stopped going there. And this one was not a sign from above.
    Сfrom the thousands of Israelis who inundated Turkish hotels every year, these are largely collectives of large enterprises that went on an organized vacation. And they four years ago announced a decisive boycott to Turkish resorts.

    "Всё, что мы слышим – это агитация турагентов, которые хотят привлечь народ в Турцию, они говорят, что израильтяне начали ехать, однако если кто-то и ездил в Турцию в те благополучные годы, так это предприятия. Когда в статистике писали про триста – пятьсот тысяч человек, это не частники, которые покупали билет и летели. Это был организованный отдых, коллективные отпуска на предприятиях. Только так набиралась вся эта туристическая масса", - объясняет Яков Алуш, директор компании "Ваадим".

    Сейчас Турцию бойкотируют практически все крупные предприятия и учреждения. "Безек", "Эль-Аль", "Битуах леуми", "Осем", Технион, банк "Апоалим", муниципалитеты, больницы, министерства – все, кто организованно отправляет работников за границу.

    "Всё это началось ещё до "Мави Мармары". Мы перестали ездить в Турцию осенью девятого года. Потому что мы слышали, что Эрдоган говорил про Израиль и про евреев ещё до "Мармары", - говорит Хаим Тамам, председатель трудового комитета компании "Эгед". - Нас это задело, большинство организованных поездок в "Эгеде" были в Турцию, там отдыхали сотни наших работников с семьями, и после этих слов Эрдогана, при всём к нему уважении, мы решили, что больше мы в Турцию не ездим".
  15. Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 14: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: veksha50
    I don’t envy Putin ... we need to make a decision ... Forgive - our feet will be wiped out about us ...

    The answer will be several of them.
    - Turkish planes will be shot down over the territories of Syria and Iraq;
    - the flights of Russian planes will be guarded by attack aircraft and fighters, which will destroy missile positions on the ground, do not give a damn that it is Turkey and they will shoot down attacking planes;
    - the departure of Russians to Turkey will be banned;
    - Russia will abandon the Turkish stream and accelerate gas supplies to China;
    - there will be a harsh warning at the ambassadorial level;
    - there will be a conversation of the Presidents.
    And if Turkey embarks on the path of confrontation, it will receive the full program with the slightest violation of the borders of Syria and Iraq. For any attempts to cross the border by militants or their units.
    If I were to solve such issues, then I would still begin to destroy the militant camps in Turkey and would help modern weapons to Kurdish rebels in Turkey.
  16. veksha50
    veksha50 24 November 2015 15: 11 New
    +1
    Quote: Алексей_К
    I would also begin to destroy the militant camps on the territory of Turkey and would help modern weapons to the Kurdish rebels on the territory of Turkey.



    Here, the very thing ... What was said earlier - it will not hit Turkey so much as the destruction of militant camps in Turkey ...

    Ну а то, что многие против передачи вооружения курдам (якобы они потом нам "козу" сделают), так на это можно сказать и так: посмотрим... Нужно решать здесь и сейчас, срочно, а не завтра...
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  18. opus
    opus 24 November 2015 18: 28 New
    +2
    Quote: veksha50
    There must be some adequate answer ... here's what ???

    1. In 2013, the volume of Russian-Turkish commodity circulation decreased by 2012% compared to 3,8, to 32,03 billion US dollars. Imports from Russia decreased by 5,9% (to 25,06 billion US dollars), and exports to Russia increased by 4,3% (to 6,97 billion US dollars). The negative balance in trade with Russia is 18,1 billion US dollars.
    2.

    IN RUSSIA 17: 41, 24 November 2015
    Russian Foreign Ministry recommended that Russians not visit Turkey
    3. Turkish-Kurdish conflict
  • Ramses_IV
    Ramses_IV 24 November 2015 12: 46 New
    +1
    Что вы все устроили "турки-турки?!!"

    А ничего что на высоте в 6000 м достать его может "Куб" или "Оса", коих было продано в африку и тем же арабам хренова гора!

    Before writing speculation, wait for what competent sources say.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 13: 02 New
      +9
      Quote: Ramses_IV

      Before writing speculation, wait for what competent sources say.

      This is very good advice for you. Already everyone recognizes the official Turkey as well.
    2. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 13: 38 New
      +4
      Quote: Ramses_IV
      Что вы все устроили "турки-турки?!!"

      А ничего что на высоте в 6000 м достать его может "Куб" или "Оса", коих было продано в африку и тем же арабам хренова гора!

      Before writing speculation, wait for what competent sources say.

      In the mountains you do not need to have either a cube or a wasp. If the plane focuses on sea level, then Stinger or a similar complex does not give a damn about it. He will shoot down without taking into account the height above sea level, and 6000 m. In this case, the reachable height for him.
  • 222222
    222222 24 November 2015 12: 58 New
    +1
    """24.11.2015 (11:59)
    The Russian Su-24 crashed in Syria
    Today, on the territory of Syria, presumably as a result of shelling from the ground, a plane of the Russian air group in the Syrian Arab Republic Su-24 crashed.

    The plane was at an altitude of 6 thousand meters. The fate of the pilots is being clarified. According to preliminary data, the pilots managed to eject.

    The circumstances of the fall of the Russian aircraft are also being clarified.

    Throughout the flight, the aircraft was exclusively over the territory of Syria. This is fixed by objective means of control.

    Управление пресс-службы и информации Министерства обороны Российской Федерации""

    .GS of Turkey allegedly at 9 20 24 .11. 15 for 5 minutes of unidentified identity violated the airspace of Turkey 10 times. Two F-16s were used ..
    ..24 Kasım 2015 tarihinde saat 09.20 civarında Hatay Yayladağı bölgesinde Türk Hava Sahasını ihlal eden milliyeti bilinmeyen bir uçak defalarca (beş dakika içerisinde etılamühalışıtı Sılımılıtıtalıtı
    Söz konusu uçağa angajman kuralları çerçevesinde 24 Kasım 2015 saat 09.24'te bölgede hava devriye görevinde bulunan iki adet F-16 uçağımız tarafından müdahalede bulunulmuştur.
  • Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 24 November 2015 13: 11 New
    -1
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    without nerves, bring the RF Armed Forces into full combat

    1. We no longer have nerves ...
    I want quick good news and a miracle - so that only enemies die in the war ...

    2. Regarding the combat readiness of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, you wrote correctly.
    Only, I’m afraid the Turks have no intelligence, and it is precisely these that will not succeed in frightening them.
    But flying over Turkey along and across the link of unidentified aircraft would be right ...

    They said there was a time when the MIG-24 from Syria returned home directly at the highest altitude through the NATO country ...
    1. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 24 November 2015 13: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Sergey S.
      when the MIG-24 from Syria returned


      ?? belay Какой "МиГ-24" ?
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 25 November 2015 02: 59 New
        0
        Quote: The Cat
        ??? Какой "МиГ-24" ?


        In the 1973 war, our pilots covered Damascus from Israeli phantoms and kfirs ...
        And home was also difficult ...
        Mig-24 had a speed of more than 2.2 M.
        And empty in the jump, as they said, rose above 30 km.

        Returns, at least some, are:
        Over Syria they went to the fast and the furious, took off into the stratosphere and over the American air defense systems in Turkey home ...
        They said that the pilots found themselves somewhere over Voronezh ...

        The capabilities of the aircraft were incredible.
        Then the bastard Belenko flew to Japan on such a trip.
        The Japanese could not know this - they raised fighters ...
        Belenko landed MiG-24 at their airport ...

        American F-15, as a copy of this aircraft.
    2. serg2108
      serg2108 24 November 2015 14: 13 New
      +2
      Well, ours flew there on the MIG-25 THE TRUTH IS LONG AGAIN ... what
  • Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 13: 12 New
    0
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    P.t.

    Текст Ваш в основном ясен. Но что означает сокращение "п.т."? Это не общепринятое сокращение.
  • Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 24 November 2015 13: 14 New
    +2
    The question is different. Turks are still provocateurs. And Erdogan is not particularly adequate at all.
  • Hon
    Hon 24 November 2015 14: 06 New
    0
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    Turkey is an aggressor state, and not in words an aggressor - like in Ukraine, but not in deed. And by and large it must be stopped.

    And Turkey is a member of NATO. how about fighting the alliance? third world by the way
    1. Scraptor
      Scraptor 25 November 2015 06: 20 New
      0
      How about the fact that it was NATO who did not hesitate to bomb Serbia?
  • Kindof
    Kindof 24 November 2015 14: 35 New
    +2
    One can see the connection with the events of the past two weeks:
    1. Разрешением британским лётчикам атаковать российские самолёты в случае "угрозы жи (промелькнуло в британских СМИ, была стать на ВО);
    2. Negotiations of the Obanana with Erdogan on joint control of the Syrian-Turkish border;
    3. Escort of our strategic bombers by NATO (Norwegians, then Britons) fighters in international airspace.

    All this indicates the presence of a common plan for the Armed Forces of the NATO countries regarding the air forces
    So we were brought to the point of bifurcation ..
  • just exp
    just exp 24 November 2015 12: 44 New
    12
    there is . shoot down Turkish planes, if they fly into Syria, if air defense means are revealed, then when trying to fly our planes, fire at PRR.
    and it is imperative to ban tourism in Turkey, we have a lot of beautiful places near ourselves, and woodpeckers export money to the Turks.
  • Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 24 November 2015 13: 05 New
    +2
    Quote: uhu189
    Support the Kurds with the Workers Party of Kurdistan. There are no other counter options.

    1. This is the best option. And in addition to recognize the statehood of the Kurdrv and Armenians in Turkey.
    2. Это почти невозможный вариант - термин "Рабочая" сильно мешает.
  • Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 13: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: uhu189
    Support the Kurds with the Workers Party of Kurdistan. There are no other counter options.

    Shoot down the Turks over the territory of Iraq.
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  • bubalik
    bubalik 24 November 2015 12: 22 New
    +6
    Alexander Romanov (4) RU  Today, 12: 17 ↑


    ,,, as usual, will give the Turkish Ambassador a note of protest and and recourse all,
    1. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 24 November 2015 12: 44 New
      +5
      Quote: bubalik
      ,,, as usual, they will give the Turkish Ambassador a note of protest and that’s all,

      And ... weapons to the Kurds. Sincerely.
  • Telakh
    Telakh 24 November 2015 12: 26 New
    0
    It’s important not how the Su-24 was shot down, but how it all began, and why the F-16 failed
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 12: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: Telakh
      It’s important not how the Su-24 was shot down, but how it all began, and why the F-16 failed

      It’s not important anymore. The plane is shot down and this is the main thing.
    2. just exp
      just exp 24 November 2015 13: 03 New
      +4
      was there a boy? I'm talking about a downed Turkish F-16.
  • atalef
    atalef 24 November 2015 12: 26 New
    11
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Telakh
    There is information that our su-24 blocked the Turkish f-16 over the territory of Syria when it was taken into account, after which the su-24s were shot down by Turks

    It doesn’t matter if it was shot down by a Turkish plane or was shot down by the Turks from the ground. Now it’s important what we will do. Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???

    Sanya, this is what I wrote a month ago, if the Russian Federation does not stop bombing the SSA, they will begin to shoot down planes.
    SSA is supported by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the United States - it is clear that they would not tolerate this.
    Now, in fact, the question is not by plane, but by pilot.
    Where is he, will there be a rescue operation, to whom will he be captured and will it become a bargain.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 12: 37 New
      +6
      Quote: atalef
      Sanya, this is what I wrote a month ago, if the Russian Federation does not stop bombing the SSA, they will begin to shoot down planes.

      Well, I also had no doubt that they knocked down, you and I skipped it in skype. Sanya, however now, the warrior’s spring is unwound more and more. Our situation is now in a difficult situation, there are not many moves. The Bosphorus is controlled by the Turks and Erdogan understands this, although he is a simple six in NATO, but it is NATO.
      Quote: atalef
      SSA supported by Turkey

      Sanya, I don’t know who you think Turkey supports, but at the checkpoints with Turkey ISIS black flags. And this is Turkey’s response to the bombing of fuel trucks, Turkey suffers losses.
      Quote: atalef
      Where is he, will there be a rescue operation, to whom will he be captured and will it become a bargain.

      They say one Turks captured.
      In general, this is only the beginning. Khrenova for all this will end, and Turkey itself will cease to exist at all. The stakes are too high.
      1. atalef
        atalef 24 November 2015 12: 50 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Sanya, however it may be now, but the spring of the warriors spins more and more.

        Of course, there are steps after which you can’t go back

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        .Our now is in a difficult situation, there are not many moves

        There will be no moves, I think Russia will reduce the degree of escalation and begin to negotiate with the SSA
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Sanya, I don’t know who you think Turkey supports, but at the checkpoints with Turkey ISIS black flags. And this is Turkey’s response to the bombing of fuel trucks, Turkey suffers losses.

        Turkmenov. Sanya. Turkmenov, Pay attention to where the plane was shot down and where the pilot (s) hit.
        After . as last week, the Russian Aerospace Forces erased the dust of a Turkmen village; you yourself understand the question will not be easy to solve
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        In general, this is only the beginning. Khrenova for all this will end, and Turkey itself will cease to exist at all. The stakes are too high.

        That is the whole point.
        I told you . just get into the war. it’s hard to get out and NO ONE knows how it will all end

        Quote: Albert1988
        What does this CCA have to do with it?

        While the SSA is not ISIS.
        Quote: Albert1988
        ! Our oil tankers began to bomb, the oil tankers - that’s the Turks and rocked ... We are waiting for an answer ...

        No, this is a very simple answer that suits many
        I tell you - there is no problem with fuel trucks.

        The problem is that Russia is pushing the SSA into a coalition with Assad - the bombing.
        Their reaction was a matter of time.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 12: 55 New
          +6
          Quote: atalef
          I think Russia will reduce the degree of escalation and begin to negotiate with the SSA

          It makes no sense, they are six sponsored and managed by completely different.
          Quote: atalef
          After . as last week, the Russian Aerospace Forces erased the dust of a Turkmen village; you yourself understand the question will not be easy to solve

          Sanya, remember how your special forces of the Turks interrupted on the ships sailing to Gaza. With the Turks now it’s impossible for good.
          Quote: atalef
          Their reaction was a matter of time.

          Okay, anyway, there’s nothing to talk about by and large. The bearded one captured the pilot and ....... if they kill him now, no one will talk to anyone at all.
          1. atalef
            atalef 24 November 2015 13: 36 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            It makes no sense, they are six sponsored and managed by completely different.

            It makes sense and now the operation in Syria. divided into 2 periods. before and after the plane. now each side. will begin to forgive steps - there will be no hasty actions
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Sanya, remember how your special forces of the Turks interrupted on the ships sailing to Gaza. With the Turks now it’s impossible for good.

            You’ll see (it seems to me that way) - the pilots are captured by an unknown group, there will be videos on the Internet, everything will be designed for one thing, to raise the fuss in the press and Russia the same.
            People will start asking questions.
            rescue operation is problematic - can lead to new victims (again, medium?)
            in general, it is not yet clear where it will go. but initially this is a problem for the Russian Federation
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The pilot was captured by one bearded man and ....... if they kill him now, no one will talk to anyone at all.

            Who is killing a hen laying golden eggs? Yes, they will shake and cherish it.
          2. Rrrj
            Rrrj 24 November 2015 15: 03 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The pilot was captured by one bearded man and ....... if they kill him now, no one will talk to anyone at all.
            Who is killing a hen laying golden eggs? Yes, they will shake and cherish it.

            That’s what I would have done, you, but not they — here the stakes are high — they do not need a ransom (they have money anyway), and Russia will not make concessions.
        2. atalef
          atalef 24 November 2015 13: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          It makes no sense, they are six sponsored and managed by completely different.

          It makes sense and now the operation in Syria. divided into 2 periods. before and after the plane. now each side. will begin to forgive steps - there will be no hasty actions
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Sanya, remember how your special forces of the Turks interrupted on the ships sailing to Gaza. With the Turks now it’s impossible for good.

          You’ll see (it seems to me that way) - the pilots are captured by an unknown group, there will be videos on the Internet, everything will be designed for one thing, to raise the fuss in the press and Russia the same.
          People will start asking questions.
          rescue operation is problematic - can lead to new victims (again, medium?)
          in general, it is not yet clear where it will go. but initially this is a problem for the Russian Federation
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The pilot was captured by one bearded man and ....... if they kill him now, no one will talk to anyone at all.

          Who is killing a hen laying golden eggs? Yes, they will shake and cherish it.
        3. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 13: 52 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Who is killing a hen laying golden eggs? Yes, they will shake and cherish it.

          You are wrong. In the Caucasus, bearded Islamists hunted for our pilots, and if they caught, they tortured them with medieval methods and did not ask for any money for them. They were ultimately killed, as were snipers.
    2. fyvaprold
      fyvaprold 24 November 2015 13: 00 New
      +7
      Quote: atalef
      After . how last week the aerospace forces of the Russian Federation wiped to dust Turkmen village you understand the question will not be easy to solve
      Turkmen village? Surely with a children's hospital, an orphanage and a camp for girls needlewomen? negative Nu-nu.
      1. alex-s
        alex-s 24 November 2015 13: 08 New
        +1
        Now, first of all, we need to urgently get our tourists out of Turkey!
    3. EvilLion
      EvilLion 24 November 2015 13: 18 New
      -1
      Ish, you are a Turkmen village. And there is such a people as the Turkmens, or the same artificial nation of owls. period like Uzbeks? And in the occupied ISIS, etc. territories have long been no civilian.

      SSA, if they have any problems, can bring to hell. From the point of view of Russia, they are just illegal gangs like the same Home Army, and in the war they either disarm voluntarily or destroy them forcibly.
    4. veksha50
      veksha50 24 November 2015 13: 32 New
      +2
      "После того . как на прошлой неделе ВКС РФ стерли в пыль туркменскую деревню"...

      Yeah ... And Turkmenbashi spoke to Putin yesterday about this ... And he expressed concern about the use of Russian airplanes and ships of the Caspian region to strike at IS ...
  • Albert1988
    Albert1988 24 November 2015 12: 41 New
    +8
    Quote: atalef
    Sanya, this is what I wrote a month ago, if the Russian Federation does not stop bombing the SSA, they will begin to shoot down planes.

    What does this CCA have to do with it? Atalef, prioritize! Our oil tankers began to bomb, the oil tankers - that's the Turks and rocked ...
    Waiting for an answer...
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 13: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Albert1988
      Our oil tankers began to bomb, the oil tankers - that's the Turks and rocked ...

      Whose oil tankers are you from? Are you a member of ISIS?
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 24 November 2015 14: 33 New
        +2
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Whose oil tankers are you from?

        Read carefully, dear, this is our (our pilots) began to bomb oil tankers (Igilov-Turkish), here the Turks began to lay bricks on this occasion and went on such an ugly provocation, apparently with nerves quite wrong with the Janissaries ...
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 24 November 2015 12: 42 New
    -4
    So we will bomb Turkey. Libya was accused of terrorist attacks at one time and bombed a little bit, even without declaring war.

    "Калибров" выпустить пачку и пусть перехватывают.
    1. tlauicol
      tlauicol 24 November 2015 12: 47 New
      +5
      Well done ! The Turks immediately block the straits and tryndets of our group in Syria! Check and checkmate! Isil rushing to Damascus again, and our military specialists having abandoned their equipment, are being evacuated on the ships of the SR squadron around Europe to the Baltic and the North.
      and a pack of Tomahawks will be heavier. This is a war with NATO. Nobody needs the third world war. Most likely there will be coexistence and concessions in Syria in exchange for pilots (if they are alive)
      1. Makarov
        Makarov 24 November 2015 12: 58 New
        +1
        then a pack of tomahawks, then a war no one needs ... it does not work out logically ...
      2. miru mir
        miru mir 24 November 2015 13: 04 New
        +2
        If catapulted and captured, there is hope.
      3. just exp
        just exp 24 November 2015 13: 05 New
        +1
        and what, without a strait, ours can’t get there anymore?
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 13: 58 New
          +4
          Quote: just EXPL
          and what, without a strait, ours can’t get there anymore?

          The closure of the straits for Russian ships will mark the beginning of hostilities. What will they stop? Destroy with torpedoes, missiles, mining or from serf cannons?
      4. EvilLion
        EvilLion 24 November 2015 13: 21 New
        +2
        Repeat until opening. The situation, as it were, does not imply calm diplomatic decisions. In principle, the Turks could block the passage through the straits earlier, and not arrange a provocation for which you can get too tough.
      5. shuhartred
        shuhartred 24 November 2015 13: 26 New
        +2
        Quote: Tlauicol
        and a pack of Tomahawks will be heavier.

        После пачки "топоров" полетит пачка "ярсов" и Турция станет стеклянной радиоактивной пустыней. Третья мировая то ли будет то ли нет, а туркам будет уже пофигу.
      6. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 24 November 2015 13: 33 New
        +2
        .....Well done ! The Turks immediately block the straits and tryndets of our group in Syria! ...

        .... Tryndets will not be .... It will be difficult, but bearable .... But if the gas is cut off for the Turks (60% of Turkey’s demand is Russian gas), then in a month Erdogan will be in a sperm - local business elites will drive ..... Something like that ....
      7. serg2108
        serg2108 24 November 2015 14: 18 New
        +1
        the number of cruise missiles in stock at the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation can decide the matter and in whose favor ...
    2. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 12: 48 New
      +2
      Quote: EvilLion
      So we will bomb Turkey.

      Turkey is NATO, to bomb Turkey is the 3rd world.
      The bearded captured our pilot, this is the scribe. And I don’t know what to do now with our attitude towards the Turks, if he is also killed on camera. To break off all relations with Turkey, I don’t know what else. But you need to do something recourse
      1. Albert1988
        Albert1988 24 November 2015 12: 53 New
        -2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        To break off all relations with Turkey, I don’t know what else. But you need to do something

        Firstly, a couple of T-160's on constant duty are nearby, and then with a high probability the fuse will pass ...
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 14: 00 New
          -1
          Quote: Albert1988
          Firstly, a couple of T-160's on constant duty are nearby, and then with a high probability the fuse will pass ...

          Что такое "Т-160"? Такого танка ещё нет.
        2. Albert1988
          Albert1988 24 November 2015 20: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Алексей_К
          Что такое "Т-160"? Такого танка ещё нет.

          I apologize, but did you set yourself the task of finding fault with words, for lack of the opportunity to find fault with the content? With all due respect, but it is precisely this impression.
          Naturally meant the Tu-160, a strategic missile carrier which))))
          I dialed from a mobile phone, it’s not so convenient there, and even then with such news it’s hard to maintain emotional balance, so I missed a black mark ...
    3. WUA 518
      WUA 518 24 November 2015 12: 59 New
      +5
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Break all relations with Turkey, something else I do not know what.

      Hi Sanya. And how many of our tourists are there now?
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 13: 04 New
        +6
        Quote: WUA 518
        Hi Sanya. And how many of our tourists are there now?

        Great Sasha! Evacuation, or do you have other options?
        The funny thing is that people who have bought tickets to Turkey now, having watched the news about the plane, will say, oh, what horror and stuffing things in the trunk of a taxi they will go to the airport on vacation to Antalya.
      2. WUA 518
        WUA 518 24 November 2015 13: 07 New
        +5
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        are there any other options?

        There are no others, but it is also time. And it can blaze at any moment.
      3. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 13: 14 New
        +1
        Quote: WUA 518
        . And it can blaze at any moment.

        Sanya, yes, I already wrote about it too, the flywheel of the warriors is being developed, and I don’t understand what to do.
        I'm afraid that stopping it is no longer possible.
      4. WUA 518
        WUA 518 24 November 2015 13: 16 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        I don’t understand what to do already.
        I'm afraid that stopping it is no longer possible.

        According to SNN, just one pilot died. God forbid!
      5. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 13: 45 New
        0
        Quote: WUA 518
        According to SNN, just one pilot died. God forbid!

        Sent possibly died, although SNN is SNN.
  • miru mir
    miru mir 24 November 2015 13: 05 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Our bearded pilot captured

    No information yet. Why are you boiling?
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 13: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: miru mir
      No information yet. Why are you boiling?

      Already a video in the news, under the cries of Allahu akbar.
    2. miru mir
      miru mir 24 November 2015 13: 15 New
      +2
      They will cry their chants, even if you stumble. There is no information about the pilots yet. Maybe they will also pull it out, probably the special forces are already spinning there.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 14: 03 New
      0
      Quote: miru mir
      . There is no information about the pilots yet. Maybe they will also pull it out, probably the special forces are already spinning there.

      Maybe you don’t, but we have.
  • Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 14: 02 New
    0
    Quote: miru mir
    Why are you boiling?

    Write in literary Russian, not a criminal camp hair dryer.
  • EvilLion
    EvilLion 24 November 2015 13: 22 New
    +2
    NATO will not lift a finger. If they sit in Turkey, then these are the problems of Turkey.
  • mitya24
    mitya24 24 November 2015 13: 38 New
    +2
    And a NATO member country to shoot down a military aircraft of the Russian Federation is not 3-I world ????
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 14: 03 New
      +3
      Quote: mitya24
      And a NATO member country to shoot down a military aircraft of the Russian Federation is not 3-I world ????

      No, this is not 3-I world.
    2. Scraptor
      Scraptor 25 November 2015 05: 56 New
      0
      Well then, hitting the floor of her airfields or the downing of her aircraft and the removal of air defense systems, is also not World War III.
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  • Ze Kot
    Ze Kot 24 November 2015 13: 46 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Turkey is NATO, to bomb Turkey is the 3rd world.



    А не каждый ли второй на сайте призывает "уничтожить Фашингтон" ? wink

    And this is 100% 3rd World! And the last one!
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 13: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: The Cat
      А не каждый ли второй на сайте призывает "уничтожить Фашингтон" ?

      Yeah calls, sitting ass in a soft chair.
  • Weyland
    Weyland 24 November 2015 23: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    bomb Turkey this is the 3rd world


    Not a fact yet. Article 5 of the NATO Charter is so well written ...
    “An armed attack on one or more of them in Europe or North America will be considered as an attack on them as a whole, and therefore agree that if such an armed attack takes place, each of them, in exercise of law for individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will help To the Contracting Party undergoing, or to the Contracting Parties subjected to such an attack, by the immediate implementation of such an individual or joint action as it considers necessary, including the use of armed force to restore and subsequently maintain the security of the North Atlantic region.

    Так что если сочтет необходимым применение вооруженной силы - применит, а если нет - применит какое-либо другое "индивидуальное или совместное действие» - например, ноту протеста . wink Most likely, the sanctions will be extended. What a horror ...
    crying
  • Weyland
    Weyland 24 November 2015 23: 07 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    bomb Turkey this is the 3rd world


    Not a fact yet. Article 5 of the NATO Charter is so well written ...
    “An armed attack on one or more of them in Europe or North America will be considered as an attack on them as a whole, and therefore agree that if such an armed attack takes place, each of them, in exercise of law for individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will help To the Contracting Party undergoing, or to the Contracting Parties subjected to such an attack, by the immediate implementation of such an individual or joint action as it considers necessary, including the use of armed force to restore and subsequently maintain the security of the North Atlantic region.

    Так что если сочтет необходимым применение вооруженной силы - применит, а если нет - применит какое-либо другое "индивидуальное или совместное действие» - например, ноту протеста . wink Most likely, the sanctions will be extended. What a horror ...
    crying
  • Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 24 November 2015 13: 15 New
    +1
    Sanya, this is what I wrote a month ago, if the Russian Federation does not stop bombing the SSA, they will begin to shoot down planes.


    SSA - who is it? At least someone saw them live? wassat
    1. miru mir
      miru mir 24 November 2015 14: 09 New
      +3
      Lovers of humanity. The same alahbabahnutnye ...
    2. twviewer
      twviewer 24 November 2015 14: 20 New
      +1
      Quote: ButchCassidy
      SSA - who is it? At least someone saw them live? wassat

      and then
      .
  • NordUral
    NordUral 24 November 2015 13: 21 New
    +3
    The important thing is not what the Turks will tolerate. It is important whether we snarl or respond adequately and smartly.
  • shuhartred
    shuhartred 24 November 2015 13: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    if the Russian Federation doesn’t stop bombing the SSA, planes will be shot down

    Atalef you are apparently a specialist. Let me ask you, in which case the Su-24 would not be able to evade the attack? After all, even the most advanced air defense systems do not give a 100% guarantee of defeat? hi
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  • mvg
    mvg 24 November 2015 12: 30 New
    12
    Just as the Turks did, after the downing of the Syrians RF-4E, to land a couple of Turkish aircraft. With that, right over Incirlik ... where 60 pieces of B61-11 are waiting in the wings. Maybe the plane will fail to fall into storage.
    PS: Assuming you shot down an F-16, land everything that flies over Syria .. including the Kurdish air. Stsuki.
    1. lwxx
      lwxx 24 November 2015 13: 32 New
      +1
      Careful, 64gr and green American men will fly in and will claim that they need to chew on the snot and carefully wave the saber at the computer. I hold it. Shoot down everyone who does not have a UN Security Council mandate and permission from the Syrian Peninsula.
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 24 November 2015 12: 45 New
    -4
    calibrate and point, or knock down a few of them .....
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 November 2015 12: 51 New
      +6
      Quote: Alexey-74
      calibrate and point, or knock down a few of them .....

      Подумайте прежде чем такое писать."Откалибровать"как вы пишите,это означает ВОЙНА С НАТО ,а по сути ТРЕТЬЯ МИРОВАЯ.Это не копьютерная игра,а реально все.
      1. Sashka
        Sashka 24 November 2015 13: 55 New
        0
        Those. according to your logic, NATO will hammer us, and we should not answer, so as not to provoke the 3rd World ?! Here on the street you will be given a funicular in turnips, and you do not answer, so as not to provoke.
      2. Weyland
        Weyland 24 November 2015 23: 26 New
        0
        Sorry for the repost:
        Article 5 of the NATO Charter is so well written ...
        “An armed attack on one or more of them in Europe or North America will be considered as an attack on them as a whole, and therefore agree that if such an armed attack takes place, each of them, in exercise of law for individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Contracting Partysubjected to, or to Contracting Parties subjected to such an attack, by the immediate implementation of such an individual or joint action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force to restore and subsequently maintain the security of the North Atlantic region.

        Так что если сочтет необходимым применение вооруженной силы - применит, а если нет - применит какое-либо другое "индивидуальное или совместное действие» - например, ноту протеста laughing . Most likely, the sanctions will be extended. What a horror ... crying
      3. Weyland
        Weyland 24 November 2015 23: 26 New
        0
        Sorry for the repost:
        Article 5 of the NATO Charter is so well written ...
        “An armed attack on one or more of them in Europe or North America will be considered as an attack on them as a whole, and therefore agree that if such an armed attack takes place, each of them, in exercise of law for individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Contracting Partysubjected to, or to Contracting Parties subjected to such an attack, by the immediate implementation of such an individual or joint action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force to restore and subsequently maintain the security of the North Atlantic region.

        Так что если сочтет необходимым применение вооруженной силы - применит, а если нет - применит какое-либо другое "индивидуальное или совместное действие» - например, ноту протеста laughing . Most likely, the sanctions will be extended. What a horror ... crying
    2. bulvas
      bulvas 24 November 2015 12: 57 New
      0
      Quote: Alexey-74
      calibrate and point, or knock down a few of them .....



      It is unlikely that all the same, start with NATO - to fulfill the cherished dream of the United States

      But now, everything near the Turkish border is covered with missiles in the closest proximity to the border.

      Frontline aircraft no longer send there

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  • Ka-52
    Ka-52 24 November 2015 12: 51 New
    +4
    I also ask myself this question. angry
    IMHO (I would like to make a mistake): there will be angry notes of protest, hype in the media of both countries, reviews of ambassadors and All ... sad
    With Ukraine, We are still calving about something, after turning off the Crimea.
  • Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 24 November 2015 13: 01 New
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Now it’s important what we will do.

    From the first day it was clear that there would be losses. The fate of the pilots was worrying. I hope that the rescue of pilots in such situations is thought out.
    It’s too early to say what happened. Insolent Erdogan. I assume that this is his desire (not pilots, they are performers) to play with muscles. And made a provocation. Not heard statements by the Turkish Foreign Ministry.
    With your private mind:
    1. The Turks wanted a no-fly zone. Arrange. At least over the territory of Syria. For the safety of the Russian aerospace forces.
    2. Aircraft of the Turks (if it is) - destroy even if over the territory of Turkey.). Otherwise, Putin’s words about the punishment of accomplices of terrorists are a mess.
    3. Strengthen the destruction of ISIS on the border with Turkey in the prospect of Syrian forces entering the border.
    4. To declare the dangers of rest of Russian tourists in Turkey and prohibit travel there.
    5. ...
    We are waiting for accurate information and an adequate response from Russia.
  • Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 24 November 2015 13: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Now it’s important what we will do. Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???

    1. The most important question.
    2. I am sure that they are already doing ...


    PS
    Recall from Turkey should not be an ambassador, but tourists.
  • afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 24 November 2015 13: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Now it’s important what we will do.

    We don’t need the Turkish coast ... goodbye Antalya however ..
  • shultc
    shultc 24 November 2015 13: 08 New
    +2
    If these are Turks, then they stepped on the blade of a knife (i.e., scimitar). And she (Turkey) is a country of NATO. It's a challenge!
  • Aleksey_K
    Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 13: 08 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    It doesn’t matter if it was shot down by a Turkish plane or was shot down by the Turks from the ground. Now it’s important what we will do. Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???

    Turks bomb Kurds over the territory of Iraq. This is not their territory. So you need to catch and shoot, so as not to hunt Russian planes. And NATO organizations threaten that if they go into conflict with Turkey, even though she is a member of NATO, then they will get the full program.
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 24 November 2015 13: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Алексей_К
      And NATO organizations threaten that if they go into conflict with Turkey, even though she is a member of NATO, then they will get the full program.

      You apparently forgot about the agreement of NATO members. In case of aggression against one NATO member, this is regarded as aggression against the entire bloc.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 24 November 2015 13: 28 New
        0
        Quote: NEXUS
        You probably forgot about the agreement of NATO members.

        the situation is extremely bad and it’s impossible to let go and the response of the third world smacks of smell .. If only everything worked out fine with our pilots, otherwise it would lead the situation into a complete deadlock fraught with many consequences for all parties ..
        1. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 14: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          an extremely bad situation cannot be let down, and the answer of the third world smacks.

          What all readers screamed about the 3 World War. It is not suicides who live in NATO and Europe. There will not be this world mess, but Turkey will be forced into adequate international behavior.
      2. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 24 November 2015 13: 44 New
        +2
        .... You probably forgot about the agreement of NATO members. In case of aggression against one NATO member, this is regarded as aggression against the entire bloc ....

        .... laughing ..... Greece is also a member of NATO .... And what ??? .... Somewhere NATO, when the Turks in the airspace of Greece consider that they live ???? ..... NATO will not fit into the Turks ..... Oh, they will not ..... Salt in full if something happens .....
      3. Sashka
        Sashka 24 November 2015 14: 00 New
        +2
        And what is written in them if their member (in the literal and figurative senses) committed aggression against another state?
      4. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 24 November 2015 14: 29 New
        +4
        Quote: NEXUS
        You apparently forgot about the agreement of NATO members. In case of aggression against one NATO member, this is regarded as aggression against the entire bloc.

        There are other conditions in NATO. If a NATO country attacks another country, then the answer on the NATO country will be considered in Brussels and only after discussion will a decision be made and not at all in favor of the NATO country. Otherwise, any mongrel from NATO may simply attack Russia and NATO will immediately begin military operations against Russia. DO NOT make readers laugh.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 24 November 2015 14: 49 New
          +1
          Quote: Алексей_К
          There are other conditions in NATO. If a NATO country attacks another country, then the answer on the NATO country will be considered in Brussels and only after discussion will a decision be made and not at all in favor of the NATO country. Otherwise, any mongrel from NATO may simply attack Russia and NATO will immediately begin military operations against Russia. DO NOT make readers laugh.

          Turkey is not a mongrel like Lithuania or Poland, but the main strategic partner of the United States in the Middle East with its not weak fleet, air force and ground forces. And the decision to shoot down our bomber was clearly not made in Ankara. Do not tell people.
          1. aleks 62 next
            aleks 62 next 24 November 2015 16: 10 New
            0
            ..... Turkey is not a mongrel, like Lithuania or Poland, ...


            .... A mongrel ... A mongrel .... Only a little more .... Who imagines himself to be a bear ..... Legs will pass this soon .... Everything goes to this .... lol
    2. starwars
      starwars 24 November 2015 15: 21 New
      0
      Here it is right! wink hi
  • beer-youk
    beer-youk 24 November 2015 13: 09 New
    0
    Carpet bombing 100 km from the Syrian border north inland and 100 km along the front (the area that they cannot block). Ottoman chocks do not understand differently!
    1. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 24 November 2015 13: 52 New
      0
      Quote: beer-youk
      Carpet bombing 100 km from the Syrian border north inland and 100 km along the front (the area that they cannot block). Ottoman chocks do not understand differently!


      The answer should be such that another time think.

      From the simpler:
      1. shoot down aircraft that threaten Russian aircraft.
      2. Destroy air defense systems that threaten Russian aircraft.

      Although it is unlikely ...
  • Butchcassidy
    Butchcassidy 24 November 2015 13: 13 New
    +3
    The bosses will figure it out. Putin said that all the risks were calculated. These, I think, too.

    Pilot a speedy return safe and sound to their home air base!
  • veksha50
    veksha50 24 November 2015 13: 18 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    What to do???



    Um ... Constantinople must become Russian ...

    PS And by and large - the United States in the person of NATO (Turkey) has taken such a step that both ours and theirs have one leg hanging over the abyss ...

    By and large - this is - more than the Caribbean crisis ... There even did not reach the fighting ... But here - they clearly knew who they shot down ...
  • Hon
    Hon 24 November 2015 14: 00 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    It doesn’t matter if it was shot down by a Turkish plane or was shot down by the Turks from the ground. Now it’s important what we will do. Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???

    We will swear, hand over notes, up to the break of relations
  • nadezhiva
    nadezhiva 24 November 2015 12: 20 New
    +5
    Quote: Telakh
    There is information that our su-24 overwhelmed the Turkish f-16 over the territory of Syria.

    Yes, in the morning there was infa about the catapulted Turkish pilot. But the news is already cleared. This is what remains.
    AIS13: 08
    In Syria, the Turkish fighter F-16 crashed
    The pilot of the F-16 / C fighter during the flight on duty transmitted to the command an ejection message, after which communication with him was interrupted. According to the Turkish Ministry of Defense, the connection with the fighter was interrupted on Monday, at 15.15 Moscow time after the message “Catapult” was received from the pilot.

    God knows, m. and fake (about the Turkish pilot) .F-16 as if it turns out yesterday failed.
    Well, the Turks duty flights still carry out over the territory of Syria?
  • Enot-poloskun
    Enot-poloskun 24 November 2015 13: 09 New
    0
    Turks -! They dig a hole for themselves ...

    I don’t know a more idiotic solution ...

    The rupture of economic ties between Russia and Turkey will lead to a collapse in Turkey.
    1. a housewife
      a housewife 24 November 2015 13: 36 New
      +1
      If the Turks close the straits, then the khan of all our sea trade in the south. This is a very big loss !!! What kind of tourists are there! This is to lose everything for which, starting with Peter the Great, they fought!
  • Throw
    Throw 24 November 2015 12: 13 New
    +3
    Either the far hand, or a fighter, or MANPADS ... What can I guess, in all cases except for malfunction, full d-rm ..
    1. atalef
      atalef 24 November 2015 12: 29 New
      +1
      Quote: Lance
      Either the far hand, or a fighter, or MANPADS ... What can I guess, in all cases except for malfunction, full d-rm ..

      The Turkish edition of CNN reported that in the area there are two helicopters sent for pilots who ejected, but it seems the Turks were ahead of opposition fighters, and the pilots were captured. It is reported that there is a battle going on in the area where the pilots land. According to recent reports, one of the pilots captured by the Syrian Turkmen.
    2. REXSTORZ
      REXSTORZ 24 November 2015 12: 32 New
      +8
      MANPADS 6 km what are you ((there is air or air rocket or air defense
      1. nadezhiva
        nadezhiva 24 November 2015 13: 03 New
        +1
        Quote: REXSTORZ
        MANPADS 6 km what are you ((there is air or air rocket or air defense

        The network is already a sea of ​​versions.
        State Duma deputy, Colonel-General of Aviation, Hero of the Soviet Union Nikolai Antoshkin explained that at an altitude of 6000, a “stinger” aircraft can be shot down from the mountain.
        Why does the MoD insist on striking from the ground?
  • nadezhiva
    nadezhiva 24 November 2015 12: 16 New
    12
    From the MO site:
    24.11.2015/11/59 (24:XNUMX) In Syria, the Russian Su-XNUMX crashed
    Today, on the territory of Syria, presumably as a result of shelling from the ground, a plane of the Russian air group in the Syrian Arab Republic Su-24 crashed.

    The plane was at an altitude of 6 thousand meters. The fate of the pilots is being clarified. According to preliminary data, the pilots managed to eject.

    The circumstances of the fall of the Russian aircraft are also being clarified.

    Throughout the flight, the aircraft was exclusively over the territory of Syria. This is fixed by objective means of control.

    Office of the Press Service and Information of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

    Here are the Turks - Twa.ri!
    1. Abakan
      Abakan 24 November 2015 12: 21 New
      +8
      for oil (sabot wife) avenging
  • opus
    opus 24 November 2015 12: 35 New
    +1
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    Either a malfunction or air defense of the middle hand.

    1.malfunction?
    (who understands the Arabic thread?)


    (and Turkish?)


    2.ПВО "средней" руки нет
    1. Lekxnumx
      Lekxnumx 24 November 2015 12: 58 New
      +5
      Voice-over in the second video, they said that they heard the sound of airplanes, began to shoot, saw the airplane crash. And then they noticed a Turkish airplane that quickly disappeared!
      1. opus
        opus 24 November 2015 13: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: Lek3338
        Voice-overs in the second video say that they heard the sound of aircraft began to shoot

        This is a Turkish report. I thought so.
        а вот, что поют арабы (ну кроме "Алла в бар" -это я понял)
        1. Lekxnumx
          Lekxnumx 24 November 2015 14: 42 New
          +2
          "Sonrasında türk hava sahasının iclerine dogru kuzey istikametine dogru turk F-16 hızla o noktaya yöneldi ,turk hava sahasının icine dogru" перевожу "Потом внутр воздушного пространства в северную сторону полетел Ф-16 ,и быстро скрылся с места" Это о многом говорит !Это разве не показатель того что СУ-24 был над территорией Сирии ?
  • veksha50
    veksha50 24 November 2015 13: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: _Vladislav_
    The main thing now is to ensure the evacuation of the pilot.



    Both seem to have catapulted, and our helicopters are looking for them ... However, there is information on the news line that one of the pilots was already captured by the Syrian Turkmen ...
  • Yars
    Yars 24 November 2015 11: 47 New
    25
    and what else could one expect from the Turks ?! They are puppets of the West who support ISIS! Arms delivered through Turkey by ISIS, smuggling artifacts stolen in Syria and Libya goes through Turkey to the west!
    1. _Vladislav_
      _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 11: 53 New
      +1
      Quote: YARS
      and what else could one expect from the Turks ?! They are puppets of the West who support ISIS!

      If the Turkish Air Force worked then the plane cannot be Russian.
      Turkey does not intend to declare war on the Russian Federation. In this case, the Russian ambassador to Turkey is simply called and a note of protest is handed to him.

      But the Syrians to bring down is not so scary. Think about it.
      Although the same Turkish Air Force and other countries fly in Syrian airspace without permission. And for nothing, no one touches them for some reason.
      1. Yars
        Yars 24 November 2015 12: 05 New
        15
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        Quote: YARS
        and what else could one expect from the Turks ?! They are puppets of the West who support ISIS!

        If the Turkish Air Force worked then the plane cannot be Russian.
        Turkey does not intend to declare war on the Russian Federation. In this case, the Russian ambassador to Turkey is simply called and a note of protest is handed to him.

        But the Syrians to bring down is not so scary. Think about it.
        Although the same Turkish Air Force and other countries fly in Syrian airspace without permission. And for nothing, no one touches them for some reason.

        I really wanted it to be wrong, but the successful suppression of ISIS with the help of Russian aviation really does not like the Turks, perhaps the Turks are losing their nerves when Russia breaks terrorism in Syria, they can’t do it!
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 12: 14 New
          +8
          Quote: YARS
          I really wanted it to be wrong, but the successful suppression of ISIS with the help of Russian aviation really does not like the Turks, perhaps the Turks are losing their nerves when Russia breaks terrorism in Syria, they can’t do it!

          If the plane is still Russian, then this is the war gentlemen / comrades.
          Unless of course the Turks are not going to apologize.

          The plane, if for some time violated the airspace, is simply accompanied by fighters, and it is proposed to leave the airspace.
          According to international law, any, and in this case, a Russian aircraft - is the territory of the Russian Federation. Fire was fired on the territory of the Russian Federation. Your actions?
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 24 November 2015 12: 24 New
            11
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            If the plane is still Russian, then this is the war gentlemen / comrades.
            Unless of course the Turks are not going to apologize.

            I don’t think that Erdogan will apologize. He feels safe due to the fact that Turkey is a NATO member. And in the light of such events, it is interesting what the GDP will do.
            1. _Vladislav_
              _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 12: 31 New
              +2
              Quote: NEXUS
              I don’t think that Erdogan will apologize. He feels safe due to the fact that Turkey is a NATO member. And in the light of such events, it is interesting what the GDP will do.

              I think GDP will do it right.
              The development of such situations is usually forecasted earlier, and there are specific steps and countermeasures. It's like in chess when every move is prepared.

              This is not pleasant, but not unexpected. Therefore, the answer will be.
            2. Oleg NSK
              Oleg NSK 24 November 2015 12: 35 New
              +2
              in the light of such events, I wonder what the GDP will do.

              .... and what to do? ...
              ... for good, it would be necessary to clean the border (including the Turkish side) ... but at the moment this is not possible .... hands are tied ... because, tens of thousands of our tourists will start cutting straight on the beaches .. .
              ... единственный выход - "проглотить" до поры - до времени, с одновременной массовой эвакуацией наших туристов (которых почему-то совсем не интересует, что происходит в мире ... и прутся на Бл.Восток am )
              ... а вообще то .... - это объявление нам войны, со стороны НАТО ... не зря "..де Голь" давеча подвалил ... в ведь Олланд не не хотел участвовать ... убедили "событиями в Париже"
              1. Sashka
                Sashka 24 November 2015 14: 07 New
                0
                Well, the Turks are not ISIS, the international community will simply not let go of it. No one will cut.
          2. Trailer
            Trailer 24 November 2015 12: 39 New
            +6
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            Fire was fired on the territory of the Russian Federation. Your actions?


            After the arrival of the Khokhlyatsky cities in the Rostov region - wipe and streamline further
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            1. severniy
              severniy 24 November 2015 12: 45 New
              +1
              Quote: scoop
              forget about the war with NATO. This is not the USSR. here you need eggs and not a black judo belt. After all, leave you without chewing gum and Coca-Cola, and where does patreotism go?

              Yes, you would have scored NE kinchilos ...
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          4. ancient
            ancient 24 November 2015 13: 12 New
            +6
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            Fire was opened on the territory of the Russian Federation


            How many times dill fired at the Rostov region? .. How many civilians and military personnel died?
            И ЧЁ..КОМУи ЧТО.."объявили"????
            Или РО это не.."территория РФ"?
            Прежде чем писать 2\"лозунги"..стоило бы.."подумать" soldier
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 24 November 2015 13: 19 New
              +3
              Quote: ancient
              How many times dill fired at the Rostov region? .. How many civilians and military personnel died?
              И ЧЁ..КОМУи ЧТО.."объявили"????
              Или РО это не.."территория РФ"?
              Прежде чем писать 2\"лозунги"..стоило бы.."подумать"

              Sasha, this is a completely different story in my opinion. A military aircraft was shot down, and it was no coincidence. They clearly saw what kind of aircraft it was and who it belonged to. And Erdogan confirmed the fact that our plane was shot down.
              I suspect that the answer will be ... but what, military, economic, political or all together ... the devil knows.
              1. ancient
                ancient 24 November 2015 13: 45 New
                +5
                Quote: NEXUS
                Sasha, this is a completely different story in my opinion. A military aircraft was shot down, and it was no coincidence. They clearly saw what kind of aircraft it was and who it belonged to. And Erdogan confirmed the fact that our plane was shot down.


                That's right!

                Quote: NEXUS
                , military, economic, political or all together ..


                Только..."озабоченность","крайне предупреждение" и всё в том же духе...Не забывай...перекроют Босфор и..ВСЁ.."суши вёсла".

                А вот почему народ..так уверовав в "свою непобедимость"..как-то "опустил" из обсуждения.."уря-лозунги" о С-300,о "Куполе".который якобы прикрывает всё и "душит средстваит рЭБ"...о КП ПВО в Латакии и о полном контроде воздушного пространства над Сирией?
                Почему в связи с "откровенными угрозами" со стороны "коллег и партнёров" не нарастили наряд сил и средств истребителей ПВО для прикрытия боевых порядков?
                Ну и ещё..куча и куча вопросов, которые могуь "подорвать" "уря-патриотический настрой"..местной публики recourse
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 24 November 2015 13: 51 New
                  +2
                  Quote: ancient
                  Только..."озабоченность","крайне предупреждение" и всё в том же духе...

                  I don’t think, Sasha, oh I don’t think ...
                  Quote: ancient
                  Почему в связи с "откровенными угрозами" со стороны "коллег и партнёров" не нарастили наряд сил и средств истребителей ПВО для прикрытия боевых порядков?

                  Damn, Sasha, but I didn’t tell you a month ago that it is NECESSARY to build up a VKS group? And you agreed with me ...
                  Now our 24th unaccompanied 30s will not fly ... maybe they will pull up the Su-35 ...
              2. twviewer
                twviewer 24 November 2015 13: 58 New
                +1
                Quote: NEXUS
                I suspect that the answer will be ... but what, military, economic, political or all together ... the devil knows.

                The Turks defiantly climb into the bottle, so the answer is needed - disarming, here you need to think hard and take your time. Revenge is a cold dish.
          5. opus
            opus 24 November 2015 13: 13 New
            +3
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            The plane, if for some time violated the airspace, just accompanied by fighters,

            Storyteller
            1.Israeli PASSENGER L-049 Constellation 27.07.1955/XNUMX/XNUMX Flight London - Tel Aviv
            Shot down by a Bulgarian fighter 58 dead.
            Due to a severe thunderstorm, the airliner's navigation equipment failed, the plane deviated from the course and flew into the airspace of Bulgaria. The military took the passenger airliner as an enemy aircraft and lifted the MiG-15 fighter to intercept. Bulgarian aircraft escorted the Israeli side down to the border with Greece, where they shot down, preventing the intruder from leaving the country’s sky.
            2. The French liner SE-210 Caravelle III of Air France flying 1611 was shot down by French air defense 11.09.1968/95/XNUMX (XNUMX dead) over the Mediterranean Sea
            3.Livian Boeing 727 of Libyan Arab Airlines, flying LN 114 on the route Tripoli - Benghazi - Cairo - Alexandria - Bahrain shot down by the Israeli Air Force (108 dead). At an altitude of 6000 meters, the Libyan Boeing 727 crossed the Suez Canal and ended up on the territory of the Sinai Peninsula heading to the nuclear center of Israel in Dimona. Military radars spotted the object, two F-4E Phantom II Israeli Air Force fighters were lifted into the air.
            4.Race New York-Seoul 01.09.1983/747/230 Boeing XNUMX-XNUMX
            etc.
            Ах да. это же "пассажирские" . Then like this:
            - April 8, 1950 - the Privatir PB4Y-2 bomber (reg. 59645, 26th US Navy Patrol Squadron) was shot down by Soviet La-11 fighters over the Baltic Sea in the region of Liepaja, Latvia.
            -November 6, 1951 - a patrol aircraft P2V-3W "Neptune" (reg. Number 124284, 6th patrol squadron of the US Navy), performing a reconnaissance flight from Atsugi air base, Japan, was shot down by MiG-15 fighters
            -May 8, 1954 - 3 American RB-47 Stratojet reconnaissance aircraft flying from Fairdord airbase in Great Britain, flying over Norway, ended up in the USSR airspace over the Kola Peninsula, in the area of ​​Soviet military bases. Soviet MiG-17 fighters were sent to intercept them, which attacked intruder aircraft. Two RB-47 managed to evade the meeting and leave for Norway, and the third RB-47, which was controlled by US Air Force officer H. Austin, fought with Soviet fighters in the airspace over the territory of northern Finland and received severe damage.
            July 18–1981, 15 - the Soviet interceptor Su-44TM (pilot Valentin Kulyapin) rammed a CL-XNUMX transport aircraft (LV-JTN, Transportes Aereo Rioplatense airline, Argentina), which made a secret transport flight from Tel Aviv to Tehran and unintentionally invading the airspace of the USSR over Armenia.


            etc.

            ВООБЩе "зачетно"(есть такая инфа):
            1952 year - in the airspace of the USSR, American planes attacked and shot down the Soviet passenger aircraft Il-14 transporting families of military personnel.
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            According to international law, any, and in this case, a Russian aircraft - is the territory of the Russian Federation.

            ?
            extraterritoriality does not apply to aircraft, while the aircraft is in airspace, the land of another state. The sun and everything / everything inside fall under jurisdiction of the state in whose airspace is the aircraft.

            Article 82 Air Code of the Russian Federation.
            Это для гражданских, для военных еще "круче"
          6. Ze Kot
            Ze Kot 24 November 2015 13: 55 New
            0
            Quote: _Vladislav_
            The plane, if for some time violated the airspace, is simply accompanied by fighters, and it is proposed to leave the airspace.


            The Turks claim that they warned them 5 times within 10 minutes.
      2. nadezhiva
        nadezhiva 24 November 2015 12: 39 New
        +2
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        If the Turkish Air Force worked then the plane cannot be Russian.
        Turkey does not intend to declare war on the Russian Federation.

        The Turks hoped in the morning that it was a MIG-23. Look carefully at the media.
      3. opus
        opus 24 November 2015 13: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        Turkey does not intend to declare war on the Russian Federation.

        Владислава "зашкаливает",видимо от банальной безграмотности

        In the fall of 1949, an American B-25 aircraft penetrated deep into the territory of the USSR to Kirovograd, where it allegedly threw out three paratroopers. Soviet fighters intercepted and shot down an airplane over the Black Sea. B-25 fell into the territorial waters of the USSR, its crew was picked up by border guards. Nothing is known about the fate of the pilots.

        June 27, 1958 - transport aircraft C-118 (US Air Force; it was reported that this was the private plane of the CIA director Alain Dulles) during a flight from Wiesbaden airbase (Germany) to Karachi (Pakistan) inadvertently invaded USSR airspace over Armenia and was hit by fighter MiG-17P (pilots - Svetlichnikov, Zakharov).

        ....


        August 24, 1976 - a pair of F-100 Super Saber fighter-bombers (Turkish Air Force) invaded the airspace of the USSR. One of them was shot down by the Soviet anti-aircraft missile system - the pilot ejected and landed in Turkey.


        1. ancient
          ancient 24 November 2015 13: 49 New
          +4
          Quote: opus
          Владислава "зашкаливает",видимо от банальной безграмотности


          Нет,Антон, у него просто "позиция" или "платформа" такая....как говорят Великие сатирики..."сплошной ОДОБРЯМС!" wassat
          1. opus
            opus 24 November 2015 14: 25 New
            +1
            Quote: ancient
            или "платформа" такая..

            такая? ("платформа")

            crying
    2. TVM - 75
      TVM - 75 24 November 2015 12: 22 New
      +6
      The Turks have long been scratching their hands to shoot around Russia. Constantly looking for a reason. And the reason is they have free Syria, like a Faberge sickle.
  • aktanir
    aktanir 24 November 2015 11: 50 New
    +1
    God forbid if our plane, we must believe in the best
    1. bulvas
      bulvas 24 November 2015 11: 51 New
      30
      Quote: aktanir
      God forbid if our plane, we must believe in the best



      The Ministry of Defense confirmed - SU-24, Russian, the Turks shot down from the ground.

      Turkey did not violate the border




      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 24 November 2015 11: 59 New
        +8
        NTV
        11:39
        Turkish fighter pilots warned pilots of a downed plane about the attack
        Lifenews.ru
        11:22
        Media: Syrian Mig-23 was shot down by Turkish F-16

        А МО РФ Говорит, что с земли сбит Су-24, только что - "Россия - 24!"!
        There you go, media!
      2. skrabplus.ru
        skrabplus.ru 24 November 2015 12: 24 New
        0
        As always, the Americans need to blame
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      4. Turkir
        Turkir 24 November 2015 12: 25 New
        +1
        Yes in the news
        Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan confirmed that the Turkish military shot down a Russian Su-24 aircraft over Syria. This was reported on Twitter by a Bloomberg correspondent in Turkey Ferjan Yalinkilidzh.
      5. Butchcassidy
        Butchcassidy 24 November 2015 13: 16 New
        0
        The Turks generally messed up all the rams ...
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 24 November 2015 12: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: aktanir
      God forbid if our plane, we must believe in the best

      Wrecked - this is a fact.
      The fact that they shot down is not a fact yet.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 24 November 2015 12: 17 New
        +2
        Quote: GRAY
        The fact that they shot down is not a fact yet.

        Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan confirmed that the Turkish military shot down a Russian Su-24 aircraft over Syria. This was reported on Twitter by a Bloomberg correspondent in Turkey Ferjan Yalinkilidzh.
        .request
        The General Staff of Turkey confirmed the fact of a strike on a plane that violated Turkish airspace. According to a general staff statement, the downed aircraft was warned of the violation 10 times, after which two Turkish F-16s intervened. ANKARA, November 24. / Corr. TASS Kirill Zharov
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 24 November 2015 12: 54 New
          -1
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          after which two Turkish F-16s intervened.

          I don’t read the Turks. Where to look for who said what?
          The Ministry of Defense suggests that they shot down from the ground.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 24 November 2015 12: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: GRAY
            The Ministry of Defense suggests that they shot down from the ground.

            It is not clear yet, I agree. But the pilots ejected, one was already taken prisoner, there is already a video in the news. hi
        2. Butchcassidy
          Butchcassidy 24 November 2015 13: 39 New
          +1
          Чему удивляешься? Это ж турки. Которые к тому же в лице Хакана Фидана грозились наказать Россию за "ее действия по отношению к мирным туркоманам". При том, что Турция даааавным-давно использует тюркоязычные племена региона для продвижения своих целей. Те же туркоманы активно используются Турцией как против правительственных сил Сирии, так и против сирийских курдов.
      2. MATROSKIN-53
        MATROSKIN-53 24 November 2015 12: 37 New
        +5
        Да какое там крушение?! Сбили однозначно. По телику показали и горящий самолёт и катапультировавшихся лётчиков. Это нужно знать точное время и место где "потерпит крушение" российский самолёт, чтобы всё снять на видео... Ну а наши опять всё это схавают и не подавятся. Бесхребетники с большими звёздами!
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    3. 44 World
      44 World 24 November 2015 12: 11 New
      +8
      Enough for us to fly one at a time, it’s time to switch back to su-30 escort, otherwise the Turks are insolent
    4. mark2
      mark2 24 November 2015 12: 25 New
      +5
      And if ours, then what? Will Russia have the strength to respond with dignity?

      Я не знаю как можно уладить эту проблему. Надеюсь её уладить можно будет не военным путем. Думаю, воевать сейчас со всем "цивилизованным миром" когда армия на стадии перевооружения - не самый лучший вариант. Повторяется стандартный для нас план вхождения в Мировые войны. Мы не готовы и нам не хватает, как всегда, самой малости.
      But if there is no other way, then you have to fight. To respond adequately to Turkey means a war with NATO. Even if, as all the same media write, NATO is now difficult to rise. But she will rise sooner or later.
      I don’t know ... If all this is true that they write about the power of NATO, then we must hit simultaneously in all directions. At the same time and with all the power available. First, conventional high-precision weapons, for destroying guidance and detection systems, and then non-conventional. Wherever we reach.
      There is already a pan or will be gone. Either we win the war with one disarming and then devastating blow, or we risk being drawn into an endless slaughter. We can’t pull out the slaughter. We're few.
      But in both cases, we will be damned by all of humanity.
      1. Ze Kot
        Ze Kot 24 November 2015 14: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: mark2
        There is already a pan or will be gone. Either we win the war with one disarming and then devastating blow, or we risk being drawn into an endless slaughter. We can’t pull out the slaughter. We're few.



        So this is nuclear weapons ...
        1. Scraptor
          Scraptor 25 November 2015 06: 17 New
          0
          Afraid of fallout near Israel will suffer?

          Optional ... You can still ODAB.
  • Now we are free
    Now we are free 24 November 2015 11: 51 New
    11
    Guys, either Syrian MiG-23 or Su-24, again Syrian or ours. In any case, this is an airplane with a variable sweep wing. According to the pilots, again, if there are two of them, this is Su-24, if one is Mig-23.
    It’s too early to say with a 100% guarantee that apart from the plane’s crash itself, we’re waiting for verified information.

    All calm and endurance, pah-pah-pah, so that the pilots remain alive. Otherwise, the Turks ...
    1. Dmitry 2246
      Dmitry 2246 24 November 2015 11: 59 New
      +3
      The Turks showed a video with 2 parachutes.
      The evacuation team, I hope, is already working.
      Границу на контроль, туркам - "внушение", нашим - здоровья.
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 24 November 2015 12: 00 New
        0
        Dmitry 2246 RU  Today, 11: 59 The evacuation team, I hope, is already working.



        http://www.interfax.ru/world/481161
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    2. Abakan
      Abakan 24 November 2015 12: 27 New
      0
      in RUSSIA 24 one current pilot showed
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  • Sashka
    Sashka 24 November 2015 12: 05 New
    15
    It started ... Ours, at least SU-24 ... The silhouette, I think, is not in doubt.
    Provocation from Turkey, the United States will lose hands. How do we answer ?! Swallow ?! We write to the malfunction ?! Or shelling from the ground, as already written ?! Nefig, now Turkish planes must be brought down in the sky of Syria. Good day to all. Although it seems to me that they dragged us into the war.
    1. antoXa
      antoXa 24 November 2015 12: 29 New
      +4
      It is necessary to answer the supply of any air defense means to the Kurds, so that Turkish planes begin to fall
    2. Air Force captain
      Air Force captain 24 November 2015 12: 38 New
      +6
      Now, only to blame everyone who does not have the right to fly over Syria ... there is no other decent answer
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    4. demos1111
      demos1111 24 November 2015 12: 56 New
      -2
      You can’t start a world war, but the answer must be tough, my opinion is a special charge on the igil near the Turkish border, so that the windows in all of Turkey open, and preferably a wind rose in the right direction.
      The West will understand right away, the sanctions have already been introduced, they will not be canceled, it will not be worse. And if you calculate the psychological effect on the barmaley, there will be no price for this explosion. There are no very settlements there, the choice of the place of impact is ours. This will cool the hot heads.
    5. Andru
      Andru 24 November 2015 13: 00 New
      0
      There are a lot of answer options: If you do not take the actual military response methods, then: tourists, gas - Turkish flow, Turkish consumer goods and fruits, direct assistance to the Kurds and so on ...
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 13: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: Andru
        There are a lot of answer options: If you do not take the actual military response methods, then: tourists, gas - Turkish flow, Turkish consumer goods and fruits, direct assistance to the Kurds and so on ...

        Answer, Turkey blocks the Bosphorus - your actions?
        1. antoXa
          antoXa 24 November 2015 14: 01 New
          +2
          Alexander Romanov
          I'm afraid that with the closure of the channels you are right - this is the only sane explanation for why the Turks had to take this step.
        2. a housewife
          a housewife 24 November 2015 14: 02 New
          +1
          At least someone remembers the straits !!! The thought no longer goes beyond fruits and tourists.
          1. antoXa
            antoXa 24 November 2015 14: 08 New
            0
            a housewife
            Yes, our group in Syria is supplied mainly by sea and the closure of our passage passage will significantly complicate the further operation.
          2. Scraptor
            Scraptor 25 November 2015 05: 54 New
            0
            And now why not notice any actions of Turkey?

            Denmark is also a member of NATO, what will happen if it closes its own?
  • Hyppopotut
    Hyppopotut 24 November 2015 12: 09 New
    +4
    The news has just reported that our Su-24 was shot down by a rocket. So what about the F-16 - bragging. Shot down over the territory of Syria, as evidenced by the data of objective control ...
  • Taranchello
    Taranchello 24 November 2015 12: 10 New
    10
    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already announced that the SU-24 and shot down in the course of the Turks for violating the border, S ... KI !!! Rip them up !!! Cover air defense throughout Syria and as soon as someone breaks the border, destroy it immediately !!! Everyone except us flies there illegally !!!
  • SibSlavRus
    SibSlavRus 24 November 2015 12: 23 New
    +4
    Думаю, мир ждет реакции России. Очень хочется надеяться, что это будет не просто "озабоченность", иначе сочтут за слабость и повторят троекратно.

    The launch site should become uninhabited due to severe radioactive contamination.

    There is another option: the reincarnation of Byzantium. There are many who want to give Ottomans.
  • ava09
    ava09 24 November 2015 12: 31 New
    +1
    Quote: Baikonur
    Damn, if ours was shot down, then in the light of the latest events and speeches of Putin, Lavrov - this is a declaration of warriors!


    So you can only declare after the appearance of verified data how, and most importantly - WHERE is the plane shot down? And then, I think not for you and not for me ...
  • Leks69Rus
    Leks69Rus 24 November 2015 12: 36 New
    0
    some, if it’s really Turks, then a complete break in deep relations, a complete food embargo and a ban on visiting tourists. We will travel to Egypt. Everything will be smoothed out with security and it will be ok. And let the fart go forest!
  • nick_826
    nick_826 24 November 2015 12: 41 New
    +2
    Gazeta.ru rare muck source. I agree that not everything is so clear, but to immediately draw sweeping conclusions is a property of a purely yellow press.
  • Scraptor
    Scraptor 24 November 2015 12: 51 New
    0
    испытают значит свой Пэтриот "на прочность"...
  • volot-voin
    volot-voin 24 November 2015 11: 38 New
    24
    Quote: Mera Joota
    Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

    God grant the pilots will return safe and sound. We are waiting for our reply. The ban on the sale of Turkish products in Russia, the closure of the Turkish tourism destination (although it’s a pity, it’s cool and beautiful there) comprehensive assistance from the PKK, including weapons.
    1. _Vladislav_
      _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 11: 59 New
      19
      Quote: volot-voin
      We are waiting for our reply. The ban on the sale of Turkish products in Russia, the closure of the Turkish tourism destination

      Stop stop stop.
      Suppose
      Your military plane was shot down (not by mistake, but intentionally), and your answer is not to buy canned food?
      Who will respect you after that.
      1. antoXa
        antoXa 24 November 2015 12: 31 New
        +2
        _Vladislav_
        and what? still buy?
        I think a sound proposal, meaning the termination of trade relations.
        1. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 12: 34 New
          +1
          Quote: antoXa
          and what? still buy?
          I think a sound proposal, meaning the termination of trade relations.

          In the event of hostilities, trade relations are terminated.
          1. antoXa
            antoXa 24 November 2015 13: 52 New
            -1
            so by a worthy answer do you mean the start of a war with Turkey? I think this is the most idiotic answer that can follow.
          2. a housewife
            a housewife 24 November 2015 14: 07 New
            -1
            It is possible to stop this with Turkey. But through the straits is our trade with the whole world. We have sea trade - in the north of Peter, in the south at least - but through the Bosphorus! No wonder Russia has fought so many times for the right to pass through the Turkish Straits!
            1. Scraptor
              Scraptor 25 November 2015 06: 25 New
              0
              It will be necessary - still fight ...
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      2. volot-voin
        volot-voin 24 November 2015 13: 57 New
        0
        Quote: _Vladislav_
        Your military plane was shot down (not by mistake, but intentionally), and your answer is not to buy canned food?

        Do you offer the 3rd world? Better to fight with the hands of the PKK, rather than unleash World War III with the country of NATO. They will not lose them, they are already in a constant state of war with Turkey. They will stink that we are helping terrorists, and that’s all.
        A trade and tourist embargo will severely undermine the economy. The main thing is not limited to the note of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (although it goes without saying).
    2. just exp
      just exp 24 November 2015 12: 07 New
      +8
      what is the ban? this is already a war, in this case at least shoot down all Turkish planes that fly into Syria.
      1. Prokop
        Prokop 24 November 2015 12: 53 New
        0
        Quote: just explo
        what is the ban? this is already a war, in this case at least shoot down all Turkish planes that fly into Syria.

        If the Turks shot down our SU-24 over the territory of Syria, where we are legally located, then shooting down Turkish planes over Syria is not entirely right, because they are outlawed there, you must shoot down wherever they fly legally, that’s all - only a symmetrical answer. Best of all, everywhere, especially over Turkey.
  • NEXUS
    NEXUS 24 November 2015 12: 18 New
    +6
    Quote: Mera Joota
    Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

    Erdogan confirmed the fact that our plane was shot down by the Turks. It is not clear whether the pilot is alive or not ... Now the most interesting thing will begin, namely the direct confrontation between Russia and Turkey. Most likely, our pilots will get an introduction to shoot down Turkish planes and not only the airborne forces, but also the naval group too.
    А так же начнут "глушить"средства связи турков и системы наведения.Вообщем что-то будет.
    Erdogan very much hopes that Turkey is a NATO member, but this is direct aggression towards us. Let's see what our Defense Ministry will do.
    1. Nick888
      Nick888 24 November 2015 13: 18 New
      0
      Why direct aggression if Turkey first shot down?
      In my understanding, direct aggression, if our pilots dropped a couple of other bombs on the airfield of the Turkish Air Force for example. Although, of course, I understand that the fact that the Turks were the first to bring down everyone in NATO spit.
  • Mitek
    Mitek 24 November 2015 12: 24 New
    +1
    To our love. We are waiting for an answer from GDP.
  • REDBLUE
    REDBLUE 24 November 2015 12: 25 New
    0
    They reported that our plane
  • oblako
    oblako 24 November 2015 12: 54 New
    0
    According to the silhouette of the SU-24 ...
  • larand
    larand 24 November 2015 13: 00 New
    0
    [quote = Mera Joota] [quote = Scandinavian]
    Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They will say who ... [/ quote]

    Just the Turks and shot down our SU-24. Turks declared war on us?
  • veksha50
    veksha50 24 November 2015 13: 12 New
    0
    Quote: Mera Joota
    They say, who ...



    The Turks have already stated that it was they who shot down our Su-24 after supposedly 10 warnings to him ... But something is not glued here ... with warnings, I mean ...

    Link: https://news.yandex.ru/yandsearch?cl4url=www.rg.ru/2015/11/24/istrebitel-site.ht
    ml & lang = ru & lr = 15
  • Hon
    Hon 24 November 2015 13: 58 New
    0
    Quote: Mera Joota
    Well, then the Turks also fly there.

    Turks fly to SU-24?
  • Air Force captain
    Air Force captain 24 November 2015 14: 12 New
    0
    Quote: Mera Joota
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Campaign affairs our plane.

    Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

    https://mobile.twitter.com/ustakiloyunu/status/669092768195694592
    link to the photo of the deceased pilot (Turkish tweet) ... with ... ki ... they also put emoticons under the comments ... I will delete ... ki
    Earth rest in peace to the dead. An eye for an eye
  • Mera joota
    Mera joota 24 November 2015 11: 26 New
    +2
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Campaign affairs our plane.

    Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...
    1. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 24 November 2015 12: 33 New
      0
      Mera joota (1)
      Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

      Очень жаль,но только сейчас по ТВ "Россия-24" подтвердили зту информацию: "Су-24... с земли на высоте 6 км... пилоты катапультировались, самолёт упал в провинции Латакия". Только бы спаслись наши летуны...! очень надеюсь...
  • venaya
    venaya 24 November 2015 11: 27 New
    +3
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Campaign affairs our plane.

    If at the border, then in this case the impact of air defense from a neighboring country is possible, how to drink.
    1. Dryuya2
      Dryuya2 24 November 2015 11: 40 New
      -1
      Quote: venaya
      If at the border, then in this case air defense from a neighboring country is possible

      request
      Turkish F16s bring down a military aircraft near the Syrian border: military
      Reuters
      http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/24/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-idUSKBN
      0TD0IR20151124#otgAebFs3vL4pz8v.97
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  • vorobey
    vorobey 24 November 2015 11: 32 New
    +6
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Campaign affairs our plane.


    on the video you can see rather 24 drying .. there are both of us and the Syrians ... according to some statements the Turks shot him down, others fell by himself ... we are waiting for information ..
    1. MEDVED
      MEDVED 24 November 2015 11: 36 New
      +3
      instant - 23. only among Syrians
    2. WUA 518
      WUA 518 24 November 2015 11: 38 New
      10
      Quote: vorobey
      rather 24 drying is visible on the video.

      Sanya hi, Su-24. Here from the Internet: Pilots were rescued with a parachute. http://www.haberler.com/suriye-sinirinda-ucak-dustu-1-7903791-haberi/
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      2. Mera joota
        Mera joota 24 November 2015 11: 43 New
        0
        Quote: WUA 518
        Hi hi Su-24.

        Wrote two catapulted, then 24
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 24 November 2015 11: 51 New
          +8
          Here is a photo of the MiG-23 and Su-24. The characteristic shape of the tail and stabilizers of the Su-24.
      3. adept666
        adept666 24 November 2015 11: 53 New
        +1
        too high to draw conclusions (in principle, both are similar)
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 24 November 2015 12: 15 New
          +5
          Quote: adept666
          too high to draw conclusions (in principle, both are similar)

          Maybe I won’t insist, but I’m leaning towards the Su-24
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 24 November 2015 12: 20 New
            0
            how will the pilots be pulled out? Go to this day and did not think?
            1. WUA 518
              WUA 518 24 November 2015 12: 22 New
              +4
              Quote: Tlauicol
              how will the pilots be pulled out? Go to this day and did not think?

              The technique worked out. Search and rescue service on the turntable, and ground search and rescue team.
              1. tlauicol
                tlauicol 24 November 2015 12: 39 New
                +2
                but what, nafig, the technique, when on the ground militants? and you won’t send a helicopter from the Caspian Sea or around Europe - no bases, no refueling, no time! they will kill!
                1. WUA 518
                  WUA 518 24 November 2015 13: 04 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Tlauicol
                  but what, nafig, the technique, when on the ground militants?

                  And ???? Turntables are already there, looking for pilots. What is more annoying is that the film crew was at the right time and in the right place.
      4. vorobey
        vorobey 24 November 2015 11: 57 New
        +7
        Quote: WUA 518
        Hi hi


        healthy ... drinks rarely appear ... the main thing is to pull out the pilots so that they don’t get where our or the Syrians should not matter ... and the Turks also need to think now before bombing Syria ... I think so ...
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 24 November 2015 12: 20 New
          +2
          Quote: vorobey
          the main thing is to pull out the pilots so that they don’t get where our shouldn’t

          If ours, the turntable with PSS and cover should have been hanging nearby.
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol 24 November 2015 12: 24 New
            0
            and if in the east of Syria they get knocked down? what to do? you can’t get a helicopter, and there are plenty of thugs
          2. NEXUS
            NEXUS 24 November 2015 12: 29 New
            +4
            Quote: WUA 518
            If ours, the turntable with PSS and cover should have been hanging nearby.

            Sasha, hi. If everything is so bad, then I think the grouping of our airborne forces will also be strengthened by the SU-35s most likely with additional electronic warfare systems.
            Damn, it’s bad ... it’s clear that this is a diversion, and we are now faced with a very difficult choice ... either to swallow it or to answer. And in either case, nothing good is expected.
        2. SibSlavRus
          SibSlavRus 24 November 2015 12: 33 New
          0
          Most likely the pilots will be redeemed. The safest and most reliable option.
      5. kit-kat
        kit-kat 24 November 2015 12: 02 New
        +3
        что значит "спасены"? Ещё не известно, куда приземлились. Катапультироваться это только пол-дела.
        1. Russiamoy
          Russiamoy 24 November 2015 12: 13 New
          +1
          unfortunately one came to the Syrian Turkmens.
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      7. ancient
        ancient 24 November 2015 13: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: WUA 518
        . Here from the Internet: Pilots were rescued with a parachute.


        Sasha .. this video

        [media=https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/846E0D0DF61280854408103911424_4f5209b99b
        e.3.0.6715597532672859705.mp4?versionId=X5olC.WEBO7Lh5TXvVWkQuAJ_NYBBGFM]
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 24 November 2015 13: 56 New
          0
          Quote: ancient
          .this is this video

          Serge, give me just a link, not from YouTube
          1. WUA 518
            WUA 518 24 November 2015 14: 03 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Serge, give me just a link, not from YouTube

          2. twviewer
            twviewer 24 November 2015 14: 05 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Serge, give me just a link, not from YouTube

            after equal select to parentheses, and open in a new tab, and everything goes.
          3. ancient
            ancient 24 November 2015 14: 49 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            , give me just a link, not from YouTube


            I give .. this is the local TV channel, or rather its Twitter ... somewhere around the 15-20th film from the beginning

            https://twitter.com/HaberturkTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw
        2. WUA 518
          WUA 518 24 November 2015 13: 58 New
          +4
          Quote: ancient
          Sasha .. this video

          I wish you good health. Why did they start flying alone, without cover? Damn how much you can already step on the same rake!
          1. ancient
            ancient 24 November 2015 14: 56 New
            +3
            Quote: WUA 518
            Why did they start flying alone, without cover? Damn how much you can already step on the same rake!


            Sasha .. I'm shocked belay ..тем более контроль воздушного пространства кем должен осуществляться..."наблюдателями на фланге" wassat
            Но за то с какой "помпой" "уря..у нас уже и 300 и 400 есть"..да мы их сейчас.....вот и "досейчаскались" crying



            Ну и где "уря-упоротые" с "Хибинами"..которые "Куки" гоняют"??? ведь цельный Иджис.."ослеп" и экипаж "побежал на ..мель выбрасываться" wassat ..а тут какой-то ф-16 и..."получается клал на все "Хибины"?
            А как же "уря-статьи" о новых супер комплексах БКО от Крэта на Су-24М и М2? belay
            1. NEXUS
              NEXUS 24 November 2015 15: 03 New
              +1
              Quote: ancient
              .а тут какой-то ф-16 и..."получается клал на все "Хибины"?

              Sasha, a bomber was knocked down from the ground. Our MO says this. It's not in the Khibiny, but in what kind of a bomber he was doing there without cover?
              Now I think the SU-35 will appear in Syria and the number of the 30s will increase.
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  • Altona
    Altona 24 November 2015 11: 34 New
    +2
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Campaign affairs our plane.

    ---------------------
    Syrian aviation also works with us. It is also possible that there could be a Turk.
  • MEDVED
    MEDVED 24 November 2015 11: 34 New
    0
    why immediately ours? Pending??? Syriac ...
    1. Altona
      Altona 24 November 2015 11: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: MEDVED
      why immediately ours? Pending??? Syriac ...

      ------------------------
      В ленте новостей уже дали строчку, что "потерпел крушение российский Су-24". Устно сообщается , что турецкий F-16 нанес удар, предупредив о "нарушении воздушного пространства Турции", лётчик приземлился около палаточного лагеря туркоманов(сирийских туркмен) и взят в плен. В общем, ничего утешительного не сообщается.
      PS It’s already reported that the plane was hit from the ground ...
      1. just exp
        just exp 24 November 2015 12: 29 New
        0
        far not everyone can get to 6km, so here obviously it could not do without provocations.
    2. adept666
      adept666 24 November 2015 12: 09 New
      0
      why immediately ours? Pending??? Syriac ...

      Наш... МО уже подтвердило инфу о "крушении".
  • mQn
    mQn 24 November 2015 11: 39 New
    0
    In the video su-24, 80 percent sure .....
  • makst83
    makst83 24 November 2015 11: 40 New
    -1
    no way! If the video is real, then the MiG-23 crash (a characteristic narrow fuselage and spread wings) is recorded on it, we don’t use them, the Syrian machine will zanchit!
    1. SVD
      SVD 24 November 2015 11: 57 New
      0
      Yes, it is very similar to the MIG-23, and two pilots could be if they flew on a spark.
      1. mQn
        mQn 24 November 2015 13: 09 New
        +1
        flew on a blizzard, do not be stubborn rams, in the video of the Su-24, 2 pilots ejected. Already, the Russian Defense Ministry has confirmed.
  • Tuzik
    Tuzik 24 November 2015 11: 44 New
    0
    instant 23, we don’t have them there
  • Road runer
    Road runer 24 November 2015 11: 44 New
    0
    Infa passed that this is a Syrian MIG-23 downed F-16
  • Riv
    Riv 24 November 2015 11: 46 New
    0
    "Наш"? Израильский штоле?
  • ssergn
    ssergn 24 November 2015 11: 47 New
    12
    SU 24. Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation confirmed. angry

    Funny things:

    Минобороны РФ отмечает, что "все время полета самолет находился исключительно над территорией Сирии".

    "Это зафиксировано объективными средствами контроля", - подчеркнули в военном ведомстве.


    Cho, did the Turks decide to play all-in?
    People, what do we think?
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 24 November 2015 11: 54 New
      +1
      Подтвердили, но пока обтекаемо и на "Россия 24".
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    3. Lieutenant colonel
      Lieutenant colonel 24 November 2015 11: 57 New
      0
      Indeed, our MO has already confirmed that the fallen su 24 ours.
      In the video of the invisibly catapulted pilots, maybe the guys left earlier?
    4. DenZ
      DenZ 24 November 2015 12: 03 New
      +4
      I won’t say anything for the people, I think for myself that if the Turks and if ours, then the Turks definitely lack Luley apparently.
    5. Road runer
      Road runer 24 November 2015 12: 11 New
      +1
      In principle, everything went to this. Sooner or later, a similar incident with our VKS was to happen. Too serious situation in Syria now - the interests of many players intersect here. Many here like a bone in the throat. If in the end it turns out that the Turks shot down the situation can develop rapidly. Although I think that because of one plane shot down, big wars do not start. Most likely they will be hushed up, they will be attributed to the pilots' mistake, misunderstanding and so on. It's only the beginning!
    6. Stiletto
      Stiletto 24 November 2015 12: 11 New
      0
      Quote: ssergn
      SU 24. Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation confirmed.

      Funny things:

      Минобороны РФ отмечает, что "все время полета самолет находился исключительно над территорией Сирии".

      "Это зафиксировано объективными средствами контроля", - подчеркнули в военном ведомстве.

      Cho, did the Turks decide to play all-in?
      People, what do we think?


      What is there to think? If the plane is exactly ours, and if the Turks completely blocked it, then ...
      War...
      1. urik62
        urik62 24 November 2015 12: 35 New
        -1
        You’ll go to fight yourself, strategist sofa?
        1. Leks69Rus
          Leks69Rus 24 November 2015 12: 49 New
          +2
          and what needs to be swallowed? Amerkanskaya 6ka knocks down our plane and we are silent? at least a gap in diplomatic relations, unless of course the Turks apologize tearfully and apologize. And if we swallow them again tomorrow they’ll shoot down, it’s a shame and Russia must answer, and there is something to answer from the food embargo to the end of the tour flow. We’ll travel to Egypt when it’s cracked with security. And if we swallow it is a complete shame how in Afghanistan Pakistan shot down our planes on its territory there were camps with our military and the USSR was silent, Pakistan was humiliated by a superpower !!! if the territory contains prisoners of war of your country, and even in hellish conditions, then this is war. SHAME SHAME! Therefore, the USSR collapsed about us in Afghanistan, wiped our feet!
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 24 November 2015 13: 48 New
            +1
            Then, they scammed the SCADs at Pakistani airfields and Mujahideen bases in a childish way. At one time, about 2000 spirits, instructors and their military were immediately covered.
        2. Stiletto
          Stiletto 24 November 2015 15: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: urik62
          You’ll go to fight yourself, strategist sofa?


          Yes.
          1. urik62
            urik62 25 November 2015 15: 59 New
            -1
            Yeah, if you lift your stomach off the couch
      2. theadenter
        theadenter 24 November 2015 13: 47 New
        0
        Now the main thing is to save the pilots. And there it will be seen.
    7. Autopilot
      Autopilot 24 November 2015 12: 19 New
      0
      Думается, что если это турки, то не без ведома " сами знаете кого". Если что-то ещё, то надо ждать д о с т о в е р н о й информации. Сейчас и СМИ друг друга перегонять начнут. Как говорят в известных кругах,- базар фильтровать надо.
      1. Stiletto
        Stiletto 24 November 2015 12: 26 New
        0
        Quote: Autopilot
        Думается, что если это турки, то не без ведома " сами знаете кого". Если что-то ещё, то надо ждать д о с т о в е р н о й информации. Сейчас и СМИ друг друга перегонять начнут. Как говорят в известных кругах,- базар фильтровать надо.


        Why filter it? MO confirmed the loss of the SU-24, Erdogan confirmed that he was shot down.
  • Tor5
    Tor5 24 November 2015 11: 49 New
    0
    It was not worth giving such unclear information.
    1. Lieutenant colonel
      Lieutenant colonel 24 November 2015 11: 59 New
      0
      Already our MO confirmed the fact of the loss of Su 24. In the video of the invisibly catapulted pilots.
    2. atalef
      atalef 24 November 2015 12: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: Tor5
      It was not worth giving such unclear information.


      already clearing up
      The F-16 fighter of the Turkish Air Force shot down a foreign military aircraft, which invaded the airspace of this country.

      This was reported by Reuters with reference to the Turkish media. According to Xinhua, the plane was Russian.



      Israeli TV columnist Alon Ben-David also claims that this is a Russian plane.

      RIA Novosti writes that a foreign plane crashed near the Syrian-Turkish border.

      The Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed that the military plane, shot down on the morning of November 24 at the Turkish-Syrian border, belonged to the Russian Air Force. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the Su-24 was shot down by anti-aircraft fire. The pilots managed to eject.

      According to Turkish media, a plane whose nationality is not reported would have been shot down by a Turkish Air Force F-16 plane after it invaded the country's airspace and ignored warning shots. Helicopters were sent to search for the crew.

      The Hurriyet newspaper writes that the incident occurred in the south of Hatay province, and the wreckage fell on the Syrian side of the border, not far from the Turkish city of Yailadagi.

      Prime Minister Ahmet Davutolgu received full information about the incident from representatives of the military command. Turkey has notified its NATO allies and intends to file a complaint with the UN.

      Turkish media recall: it was in this area that the Russian Air Force repeatedly invaded Turkish airspace. Turkish authorities said they gave the order to bring down violators.
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  • fif21
    fif21 24 November 2015 11: 49 New
    +4
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Campaign our plane
    Aircraft Syrian Air Force SU-24 (crew of 2 people) shot down by Turkish F-16. The pilots ejected. The Turks are playing with fire, it's time s-400 to Syria to put so to all flights of the Turkish Air Force over Syria are not legal. The move for Assad.
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  • ultra
    ultra 24 November 2015 11: 50 New
    +6
    The Ministry of Defense confirmed that our Su-24.
  • Buran
    Buran 24 November 2015 11: 54 New
    17
    Already officially announced that SU-24 of the Russian Federation and precisely over the territory of Syria, so if the Turks say that they shot down, then it's time to introduce a no-fly zone on the border with Syria. Our SAM is quite capable. But I think they’ll be hushed up, as always chewing snot about the coalition.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 24 November 2015 12: 21 New
      +4
      It is time to start carpet bombing of the border areas with Turkey (after the pilots are pulled out.
      1. theadenter
        theadenter 24 November 2015 13: 50 New
        0
        I hope you understand that Turkey is a member of NATO?
    2. DenZ
      DenZ 24 November 2015 12: 21 New
      0
      It is time to start carpet bombing of the border areas with Turkey (after the pilots are pulled out.
  • Y34Gagarin
    Y34Gagarin 24 November 2015 11: 55 New
    +7
    It seems that our plane. And now, gentlemen, it’s necessary to shoot down all those who fly over Syria without permission and coordination with Moscow and Damascus!
    1. Mityasha
      Mityasha 24 November 2015 12: 10 New
      0
      Unfortunately, we do not have enough strength to bring down everyone, there are so many uninvited guests in the sky ... request
  • rubidiy
    rubidiy 24 November 2015 12: 03 New
    0
    our ...
    http://tass.ru/politika/2465907
  • Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 24 November 2015 12: 04 New
    +1
    If the MiG-23, then the Syrian, if the Su-24, then most likely ours. what Still unpleasant. sad
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  • rpek32
    rpek32 24 November 2015 12: 09 New
    +1
    this is our say that there was no violation of space.
  • Mviktor
    Mviktor 24 November 2015 12: 13 New
    +1
    So let’s see if Putin has any eggs, or as always, let him learn from Israel.
  • shooter18
    shooter18 24 November 2015 12: 25 New
    -1
    Our Su-24 shot down the Terets Air Force..f-16
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 24 November 2015 12: 31 New
      0
      It seems that our generals are not all right with the head once they send the Su-24 unaccompanied.
  • opus
    opus 24 November 2015 12: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Campaign affairs our plane.

    Not sure.

    One must ask the flyers.
    SU-24




    MIG-23

    ---------------------------------
    If the Turks, then I hope on this plate will make an adjustmentduly executed

    или как-то так("еще парочку")
  • siberalt
    siberalt 24 November 2015 12: 32 New
    +1
    The Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed that our Su 24 was shot down over the territory of Syria at an altitude of 6 thousand meters from land in mountainous areas, presumably from MANPADS. The pilots ejected.
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  • Scoun
    Scoun 24 November 2015 12: 35 New
    0
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Campaign affairs our plane.

    in the news...
    12:02 Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan confirmed that the Turkish military shot down over Syria Russian Su-24 plane. This was reported on Twitter by a Bloomberg correspondent in Turkey Ferjan Yalinkilidzh.

    Even if 10 warnings .. but these warnings should not be in Syria
    12:10 We return to the events on the Syrian-Turkish border. Ankara claims that 10 warnings about airspace violations were issued to the Russian bomber. After 5 minutes, the plane was shot down.
  • Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 24 November 2015 12: 38 New
    -1
    Confirmed by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, our plane, it seems that now the cleaning of the territory and the rescue of pilots will begin.
  • Alexey-74
    Alexey-74 24 November 2015 12: 42 New
    0
    Now let the Turks wash the rope ........
  • fyvaprold
    fyvaprold 24 November 2015 12: 42 New
    0
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Campaign affairs our plane.

    Если наш, то независимому Турецкому Курдистану - быть! Умоются османы кровавой юшкой, а курды скоро "обновочки" получат. ИМХО. С уважением.
    PS: The Turks have already wet the harem pants:
    Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan confirmed that the Turkish military shot down a Russian plane over Syria. Turkish PM instructs Foreign Ministry to consult with NATO and UN about these events.

    Details: http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2019125.html? Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.
  • Russian Moldavian
    Russian Moldavian 24 November 2015 12: 44 New
    0
    Unfortunately, the pilots were detained if the Turks shot down over the territory of Syria and even a hairline fell from them, there should be fierce demand from the Turks
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 24 November 2015 12: 59 New
    0
    The Turks are completely overgrown, someone else believes that there will be no third world or that it does not go?

    Erdogan has already confirmed that they shot down a Russian Su-24, using an F-16 Turkish air force plane, and the legend has already been prepared that they allegedly violated the border. The Arctic fox is full. The game goes into the hot phase. We are waiting for an answer from Putin and the Ministry of Defense, they will chew snot or a tough answer will arrive.

    PySy. I hope the pilots are alive and they will be able to return.
  • Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 24 November 2015 13: 10 New
    +1
    As I understand it, the Turks were angry that our caravans of oil were being bombed and they really needed a pretext. Most likely, our plane flew close to the Turkish border and they shot it down. Catapulted pilots are now being treated unless they have already been eliminated. It will be very hard for us to prove something.
  • paxil
    paxil 24 November 2015 13: 10 New
    0
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Campaign affairs our plane.

    Yes, it’s like ours and the Turks knocked him off the ground (like we warned him 10 times). However, the Syrian controls say that the plane did not violate the Turkish border. The provocation in its purest form, now the Turks are waiting for the answer of the ghouls, they are constantly violating the Syrian border.
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 24 November 2015 13: 49 New
      +1
      Kortopolov needs to be asked, so that the pressure of the star-laden general rises and tears pour, it was he, in pursuit of the number of targets hit, that he allowed the planes to fly alone, initially the bombers flew in pairs + provided cover for the Su-30SM.
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  • twviewer
    twviewer 24 November 2015 15: 05 New
    0
    turkish version:
    turquoise border of Turkey
    red su24
    gray f16
    ..
    1. twviewer
      twviewer 24 November 2015 15: 11 New
      +1
      one of the pilots +18

      такие вот мирные "туркмены"
      1. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 24 November 2015 19: 17 New
        0
        Quote: twviewer
        one of the pilots +18


        with ... ka, strike at this place with something like a nuclear power. P ... doraces! Turks with ... ka will answer more. I hope this simply does not leave GDP. We announce a boycott to the creatures. It is necessary to show through all channels who goes to Turkey to relax - he officially finances ISIS!

        It is necessary to officially support the Kurds, throw off their arms, let the Turks get their Chechnya.

        P.S. Well, what for the Turks? bastards! are these ISIS pilots bombing? Are you scum protecting them ?! who is for evil, evil will receive. It is a pity the USA and NATO are behind Turkey, otherwise Hiroshima would come to the country.
  • fregina1
    fregina1 24 November 2015 11: 25 New
    +1
    Bastards say that it’s like ours and it’s kind of shot down !!! If so ...... then I want a worthy reaction from the GDP! It seems that the pilot catapulted, then Thank God!
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    2. Scandinavian
      Scandinavian 24 November 2015 11: 57 New
      +1
      The Ministry of Defense announced the crash in Syria of the Russian Su-24. Earlier it was reported that an unidentified plane was shot down on the border of Syria and Turkey.

      According to Interfax, the Ministry of Defense announced the crash of an aircraft belonging to the Russian Armed Forces. The agency previously reported the detention of one of the pilots.

      The Ministry of Defense said that the plane did not violate the Turkish border and was shot down over Syrian territory, RIA Novosti reports.

      The plane crashed in the area of ​​the Kyzildag mountains, where Syrian Turkmen live and there are battles between the opposition and the forces of the SAR army. The television channel transmits frames, as the plane, catching fire, sharply decreases at the peak and crashes. Two pilots managed to eject, reports TASS.

      Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu is holding an emergency meeting with the leadership of the General Staff in connection with the incident.

      The Turkish Air Force shot down a military plane after it violated the country's airspace, the Hurriyet newspaper reported on Tuesday, citing military sources.
      1. Y34Gagarin
        Y34Gagarin 24 November 2015 12: 11 New
        +3
        Quote: Scandinavian
        Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu is holding an emergency meeting with the leadership of the General Staff in connection with the incident.


        Fussed, s * ki.
    3. Lieutenant colonel
      Lieutenant colonel 24 November 2015 12: 00 New
      0
      First you need to wait for information about the evacuation of our guys from the landing site, God forbid, be successful.
    4. Russian Moldavian
      Russian Moldavian 24 November 2015 12: 49 New
      0
      Where the pilots catapulted in battle, I really hope to save our falcons
  • Kars
    Kars 24 November 2015 11: 26 New
    +6
    On Ukro media already write that the Turks shot down the plane of the Russian Federation
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 24 November 2015 11: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Kars
      On Ukro media already write that the Turks shot down the plane of the Russian Federation


      Hi Andryukha ... they would have dared to shoot a drone ... the Turks don’t need complications .. the Turkish stream seems to be being discussed again .. drinks
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 24 November 2015 12: 17 New
        +4
        Well, okay, they attacked ... I agree there is confirmation that ours ... took a chance ... bully
  • Scandinavian
    Scandinavian 24 November 2015 11: 26 New
    +3
    Media: The fighter crashed in Syria was Russian

    A military plane crashed on the border with Turkey, quickly ignited and crashed in the mountains, Turkish media reported.

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    A military plane crashed on the border with Turkey, quickly ignited and crashed in the mountains, Turkish media reported.
    Photo: Twitter

    The military aircraft that crashed in Syria on the border with Turkey was Russian, reports the Haberturk portal. The pilot of a military aircraft managed to catapult, according to media reports.

    The crash of a military aircraft occurred in the area of ​​the Turkmen mountains in the province of Latakia.

    Eyewitnesses to the disaster said that the fighter quickly ignited and fell in the mountains.

    Earlier it was reported that the type of aircraft and its affiliation to any country has not yet been established. The Russian Defense Ministry has not yet commented on reports that the crashed fighter was Russian.


    Source: http://ren.tv/novosti/2015-11-24/smi-ruhnuvshiy-v-sirii-istrebitel-byl-rossiyski
    m © REN.TV
    1. Good me
      Good me 24 November 2015 11: 38 New
      +5
      Quote: Scandinavian
      The crash of a military aircraft occurred in the area of ​​the Turkmen mountains in the province of Latakia.


      Это,по всей видимости в Сирии ? Значит : Подбили над турецкой территорией,"дотянул" до своей и там лётчик(лётчики) катапультировались ? Если конечно,вообще смогли покинуть самолёт...

      Now the main question: What about the pilots, what is their fate? Moreover, it doesn’t matter, ours or the Syrians ...


      А ПОТОМ...Потом с турками,"перетереть по-понятиям" am .


      PS Wow what ... Только прочитал : "Почему наших не сбивают в Сирии ?"

      http://warfiles.ru/100908-pochemu-nashih-ne-sbivayut-v-sirii.html
      1. Denis DV
        Denis DV 24 November 2015 11: 55 New
        +1
        Not the fact that they shot down over Turkish, the Turks of Syrians shot down over Syrian territory before.
      2. Denis DV
        Denis DV 24 November 2015 11: 55 New
        0
        Not the fact that they shot down over Turkish, the Turks of Syrians shot down over Syrian territory before.
      3. Vita vko
        Vita vko 24 November 2015 12: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Good Me
        Значит : Подбили над турецкой территорией,"дотянул" до своей и там лётчик(лётчики) катапультировались ? Если конечно,вообще смогли покинуть самолёт...

        According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, according to the objective control system, the aircraft was always in Syria and crashed there. If there was a failure in the navigation system, then most likely in the Turkish-American air defense, which works exclusively with reference to GPS.
        The Turks have long made it clear that they will shoot down Russian aircraft in the area of ​​the Syrian-Turkish border, it was necessary to more effectively suppress or destroy air defense systems. I hope the GDP draws the right conclusions; you cannot flirt with countries supporting terrorists.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 24 November 2015 13: 03 New
          0
          Quote: Vita VKO
          The Turks have long made it clear that they will shoot down Russian aircraft in the area of ​​the Syrian-Turkish border, it was necessary to more effectively suppress or destroy air defense systems. I hope the GDP draws the right conclusions; you cannot flirt with countries supporting terrorists.
          Yes, what kind of air defense, the Turks said they shot down with F-16. To deliver a preemptive strike to Turkish airfields ?!
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 24 November 2015 13: 51 New
            0
            It’s not quite that proactive, but for the cause ...
    2. anfil
      anfil 24 November 2015 12: 22 New
      +1
      38 min back 12: 20


      In general, if it is ours or a Syrian plane and it was shot down in Turkish airspace, then the Turks are in their own right, especially since they already warned that they would open fire in case of violation of their air borders. If the plane was ours and was shot down over the territory of Syria, then this is already a completely different calico.

      UPD: CNN reports that one pilot was found and detained by the Turkish military, so it will soon be officially announced who owned the aircraft.

      UPD: Shot down MiG-23 Syrian Air Force.

      Syrian Mig-23 was shot down by Turkish F-16
      According to Turkish media, the crew of the downed aircraft was warned that violated the border.
      Turkish DNA agency reports that Turkey’s F-16 was shot down by the Syrian Mig-23 fighter. The reason for this allegedly was a violation of Turkish airspace. The crew of the Syrian fighter was warned, so he managed to leave the plane.

      link:http://so-l.ru/news/show/vvs_turcii_sbili_neizvestniy_istrebitel_5
  • Aroma77
    Aroma77 24 November 2015 11: 26 New
    +4

    The silhouette is similar to su24
    1. Scandinavian
      Scandinavian 24 November 2015 11: 28 New
      +2
      exactly SU-24
      1. TSOOBER
        TSOOBER 24 November 2015 11: 31 New
        -1
        Just read! Syrian Mig-23!
        1. Good me
          Good me 24 November 2015 11: 51 New
          0
          Quote: TSOOBER
          just read it! Syrian Mig-23!


          And that was hit by Turkish F-16 yes
          11: 22 24 November 2015
          Media: Syrian Mig-23 was shot down by Turkish F-16

          According to Turkish media, the crew of the downed aircraft was warned that violated the border.

          -
          Turkish DNA agency reports that Turkey’s F-16 was shot down by the Syrian Mig-23 fighter. The reason for this allegedly was a violation of Turkish airspace. The crew of the Syrian fighter was warned, so he managed to leave the same. Earlier, the first video of an airplane crash appeared.

          Meanwhile, according to some other Turkish media, the Su-24 was shot down. These aircraft are also in service with the Syrian Air Force. According to preliminary information, two crew members ejected from a falling plane. For the Su-24, this is the standard amount, and for the MiG-23 - only in some modifications.


          But also CHECK and CHECK ...
      2. TSOOBER
        TSOOBER 24 November 2015 11: 32 New
        +1
        Mig-23 just reported!
      3. Afinogen
        Afinogen 24 November 2015 11: 35 New
        0
        Quote: Scandinavian
        full-time SU-24


        Maybe moment 23 Syrian, the profile is the same? Although similar to Su 24.
    2. ilya_oz
      ilya_oz 24 November 2015 11: 30 New
      +2
      It also seems like an instant 23.
    3. Signal
      Signal 24 November 2015 11: 31 New
      +2
      Yes, it looks like drying. But I want to see the silhouette of the MiG-23 ... The nose for drying islets ..
    4. Aroma77
      Aroma77 24 November 2015 11: 35 New
      +5
      Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu instructed Foreign Minister Feridun Sinirlioglu to hold meetings with representatives of NATO and the UN on the situation on the border with Syria. It is reported by CNN Turk. Earlier it was reported that the Turkish Air Force shot down an unknown military aircraft on the border with Syria.

      Because of the Syrian plane, I think there wouldn’t be so much fuss.
    5. MEDVED
      MEDVED 24 November 2015 11: 37 New
      0
      and for a moment - 23 looks like it, isn't it?
    6. rubidiy
      rubidiy 24 November 2015 11: 40 New
      +3
      24-ка. вариант с миг23 не прокатывает. На 21й секунде отчетливо виден "вид сверху".

      The silence of the Ministry of Defense is more likely to indicate that our plane was shot down. To refute, if everything is in order, does not take much time.
      Nevertheless, we must wait for what they say.
    7. WYCCTPUJIA
      WYCCTPUJIA 24 November 2015 11: 50 New
      0
      Between the elevators (tail) and the planes is a narrow fuselage, the SU-24 does not pull.
  • Decathlon
    Decathlon 24 November 2015 11: 26 New
    21
    КТО?! Если турки охренели, я знаю, где хранится мой "военник"! am
    1. Mobilized
      Mobilized 24 November 2015 11: 33 New
      14
      Quote: Decathlon
      КТО?! Если турки охренели, я знаю, где хранится мой "военник"!

      Getting the Russians out of themselves is a task that the whole West is working on.
  • A-Sim
    A-Sim 24 November 2015 11: 26 New
    +1
    can a french man? watched the video - the silhouette of the su-24
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    2. complete zero
      complete zero 24 November 2015 11: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: A-Sim
      can a french man? watched the video - the silhouette of the su-24

      Yes, it’s unlikely that the French France and Turkey are NATO countries, and according to anyone, the aircraft has a definition system (friend or foe)
  • Aroma77
    Aroma77 24 November 2015 11: 26 New
    +5
    We are waiting for the answer of the Russian Air Force!
  • TSOOBER
    TSOOBER 24 November 2015 11: 27 New
    14
    They write, they shot down. Judging by the Su-24 video, there is a Syrian one too. And Turkey is so dirty about quiet! They are taking revenge for fuel trucks
  • Dimych
    Dimych 24 November 2015 11: 28 New
    -1
    And if this is a Frenchman from Charles?
    1. ilya_oz
      ilya_oz 24 November 2015 11: 32 New
      +1
      Not like Etendard or Etendard.
  • Road runer
    Road runer 24 November 2015 11: 28 New
    0
    Let's hope this is not our plane. But something tells us that there is little chance ... The main thing is that the pilot (s) were alive and well.
  • Auditor
    Auditor 24 November 2015 11: 28 New
    +1
    The Turks say that they shot down ..... As an intruder of the airspace ..... Have we really decided to hook ours ????
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  • complete zero
    complete zero 24 November 2015 11: 29 New
    +1
    Quote: Mera Joota
    Quote: Scandinavian
    Campaign affairs our plane.

    Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

    The Turks will not shoot at their own ... how to drink our plane
  • bubalik
    bubalik 24 November 2015 11: 30 New
    +2
    ANKARA, November 24. The fighter that crashed in Syria was Russian, reports Haberturk.


    According to CNN Turk, citing sources in the Turkish security forces, the fighter violated Turkish airspace and was shot down by Turkish air forces.

    Pilots of the aircraft were able to catapult.

    http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2015/11/24/1464289.html
  • kotev19
    kotev19 24 November 2015 11: 30 New
    +7
    Turkish DNA agency reports that Turkey’s F-16 was shot down by a Syrian Mig-23 fighter. The reason for this was a violation of the airspace of Turkey. The crew of the Syrian fighter was warned, so he managed to leave the plane.
    1. Abakan
      Abakan 24 November 2015 11: 47 New
      0
      Smeared already bitches children
  • Siberia55
    Siberia55 24 November 2015 11: 31 New
    +5
    Turks finally lost fear !!! not only did they burn the logs of these Wahhabis, but also shoot down planes ???
  • Engineer
    Engineer 24 November 2015 11: 31 New
    +8
    Aircraft with variable wing geometry, so either Mig-23 Syrian or our Su-24. If ours, then Turkey shot down our plane. After this strike back.
    1. ilya_oz
      ilya_oz 24 November 2015 11: 35 New
      +1
      In principle, they have a reason to shoot down a military aircraft in their airspace. Because of this, no one will start a war with one of the largest armies in the world. Let's hope that this is instant-23, and the pilots will survive.
      1. ultra
        ultra 24 November 2015 11: 39 New
        +5
        Quote: ilya_oz
        In principle, they have a reason to shoot down a military aircraft in their airspace.

        In principle, we can bring down all those who violated Syrian airspace.
      2. Hydrograph
        Hydrograph 24 November 2015 11: 54 New
        0
        MIG 23 if not a training MIG 23UB pilot one.
      3. engineer74
        engineer74 24 November 2015 11: 56 New
        0
        Quote: ilya_oz
        In principle, they have a reason to shoot down a military aircraft in their airspace. Because of this, no one will start a war with one of the largest armies in the world. Let's hope that this is instant-23, and the pilots will survive.

        Действия "одной из крупнейших армий" можно рассмотреть, как явную поддержку международного терроризма...
        I understand that this is not human, but still I really want the plane to be someone else's, but not Russian ...
    2. Watchdog
      Watchdog 24 November 2015 11: 42 New
      0
      I consider such actions a direct declaration of war. If we are silent, our planes will continue to shoot down. But most likely, even if the plane was ours, they will say that it is Syrian. This will be a mistake. Such things should not go unpunished. What did Kerry say there - Russia will see its falling planes in Syria? We will be silent in a rag?!?!
      1. APS
        APS 24 November 2015 11: 50 New
        +2
        And it is better to close the sky over Syria, for coalitions, etc. And shoot down any plane over the territory of Syria.
    3. flSergius
      flSergius 24 November 2015 11: 46 New
      -1
      Erdogan is not so stupid that with his hands the United States fought with Russia. When the bombing began, he drove for order, then he remembered the estimate for the gas hub and shut up.
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 24 November 2015 11: 31 New
    +3
    Если эти сбили специально наш самолет,то необходимо их систему ПВО у границы "ликвидировать" самыми различными и доступными способами...ну и при полетах вдоль их границ мне кажется обязательно надо чтобы наши бомбардировщики сопровождались Сушками,для того что бы желания у турецких летунов не было что то сделать...пишут пилот катапультировался...но на сколько я понимаю в СУ-24 два члена экипажа...
  • Aroma77
    Aroma77 24 November 2015 11: 32 New
    0
    Turkish DNA agency reports that Turkey’s F-16 was shot down by a Syrian Mig-23 fighter. The reason for this was a violation of the airspace of Turkey.
    Meanwhile, according to some other Turkish media, the Su-24 was shot down. These aircraft are also in service with the Syrian Air Force.
    Completely confused in the testimony!
  • Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 24 November 2015 11: 32 New
    +5
    God forbid that our MSS would competently work and save our pilots.
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 24 November 2015 11: 32 New
    10
    If this is our plane, cover their air defense system so that Erdogan’s spray will flood ..
  • lukke
    lukke 24 November 2015 11: 33 New
    +7
    the evening ceases to be languid ...
    But in principle, this should be expected and be prepared for this. So let's see how much we are ready! Obama embraced not so long ago with Erdogan and the Saudis, found a concensus and the go-ahead went. Do not forget - the Americans tease and train the APU, we supply the S-300 to Iran. Our move now to the Turkish poddyanka ... very interesting ..
    1. Sober
      Sober 24 November 2015 12: 09 New
      +2
      Not really! The game went big.
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      2. lukke
        lukke 24 November 2015 12: 21 New
        0
        Not really! The game went big
        but we’ve never played with us
  • Limon1972
    Limon1972 24 November 2015 11: 33 New
    -3
    Maybe the MIG broke, and therefore could not change course :(
    1. iouris
      iouris 24 November 2015 11: 37 New
      +4
      "Ломаются" девочки.
  • raiart
    raiart 24 November 2015 11: 33 New
    +9
    If the Turks shot down our plane, then there is ALL reason to shoot down any NATA aircraft on the territory of Syria.
    1. reservist
      reservist 24 November 2015 12: 50 New
      0
      Quote: raiart
      Nato airplanes in Syria

      and the French for what?
  • kramen
    kramen 24 November 2015 11: 35 New
    +6
    the Turks were completely insolent; they shot down planes in the territory of another country. without US cover they would not have done it.
  • Engineer
    Engineer 24 November 2015 11: 35 New
    +1
    No, I watched the video many times - not the Mig-23, the wing is shifted back - the Su-24 was shot down!
    1. avt
      avt 24 November 2015 11: 47 New
      0
      Quote: Engineer
      No, I watched the video many times - not the Mig-23, the wing is shifted back - the Su-24 was shot down!

      wassat На МиГ -23 плоскости смещаются упирод ??Давайте подождем , турки не больные на всю голову и до недавнего времени четко различали ху из ху - сирийцев - сбивали , наших - предупреждали с вручением ноты протеста дипломатам .Если РЕАЛЬНО сбили нашего -ситуация выходит из под контроля у турок и ответка прилетит не тупая в виде нападения на страну НАТО, а вполне альтернативная . Есть методы ,,на Костю Сопрыкина" - достаточно будет дать в избытке оружия РПК в рамках общей борьбы с духами.Р.S.Да . Похоже наш ! Вроде МО подтвердило , ну что же .... подождем - месть блюдо холодное .
      1. Engineer
        Engineer 24 November 2015 12: 42 New
        0
        Quote: WUA 518
        ]

        upyrode
        1. avt
          avt 24 November 2015 13: 07 New
          0
          Quote: Engineer
          upyrode

          But as ! laughing Well, nothing that the MiG-23 airplane wing has three fixed sweeps (the sweep values ​​are indicated by the wing position indicator):
          16 ° - for take-off, landing, flight at the greatest range and duration, attacks of non-high-speed air targets;
          45 ° - to perform aerobatics, maneuvering air combat, intercepting air targets and attack ground targets from complex types of maneuvers;
          72 ° - for interception of high-speed air targets, flight at low altitudes with maximum instrument speed and supersonic speed at high altitudes. wassat А Су- 24 - Поворотные консоли крыла имеют 4 фиксированных угла стреловидности по передней кромке: 16, 35, 45 и 69°. Так что фотки эти ....или такой ,,Зоркий Сокол" - три градуса разницы по видео разглядели ? Ну а по факту - да , подтверждено - наш Су -24. request Что из этого последует ?Думаю последует , но не как у караулпатриотов , а желательно с учетом ВСЕХ факторов , включая ,Сирийский экспресс" .ВВП ответит вполне альтернативно , вот на вскидку , ну первое что приходит в реалиях войны
          Quote: avt
          it will be enough to give in excess PKK weapons in the framework of the general struggle against spirits.

          Quote: avt
          wait - the revenge is a cold dish.

          И должна быть как по Киплингу -,,поступь Белого человека несет печать обреченности."
  • Andrey VOV
    Andrey VOV 24 November 2015 11: 35 New
    0
    It seems that the truth looks like for a moment 23 .. and there are modifications for two crew members .... I really want to hope that it’s not ours ....
  • kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 24 November 2015 11: 37 New
    0
    Let's hope that the plane is not the Russian Aerospace Forces.
    I would like to get along, but a war without losses, as a rule, happens only in computer shooters.
  • Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 24 November 2015 11: 37 New
    25
    Here the IG has its own Turkish Air Force-Air Force ...
    It’s time to end your vacation in Turkey, and by order ...
    1. lukke
      lukke 24 November 2015 11: 39 New
      +4
      It is time to end up to rest in Turkey, and in an orderly manner
      I’ve also talked about this since the publication of Turkish support for our Czechs, and Turkey has many pain points in addition to tourism: Kurds, exporting to Russia all kinds of goods and more.
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    3. Afinogen
      Afinogen 24 November 2015 11: 40 New
      +2
      Quote: Mama_Cholli
      It’s time to end your vacation in Turkey, and by order ...


      I agree, this will be a tangible blow, there is no better answer good
  • Fisman
    Fisman 24 November 2015 11: 40 New
    +5
    If the plane flew over the territory of Syria, how could this be Turkish airspace ???
    1. Stelth1985
      Stelth1985 24 November 2015 12: 42 New
      +1
      It's just that these * si consider this territory their own. That is the whole answer.
  • Ilya_GN
    Ilya_GN 24 November 2015 11: 41 New
    +3
    I'd like to hope that no matter who is shot down, the pilots are alive and not in captivity.
  • Mobilized
    Mobilized 24 November 2015 11: 41 New
    0
    The main thing is not to miss the hidden passage that this provocation lacquers.
  • guzik007
    guzik007 24 November 2015 11: 42 New
    0
    All the same, it looks like a SU 24. Oh, what will happen right now ...
    1. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 24 November 2015 12: 05 New
      +3
      And that will be ?

      I would like to punish the Turks ... But something is hard to believe ...
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  • Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 24 November 2015 11: 42 New
    -2
    I didn’t make out missile launches on the SU24 video, maybe a malfunction of the equipment.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 November 2015 11: 42 New
    +2
    The Turkish Air Force shot down an unknown military plane on the border with Syria after violating its airspace, CNN Turk reported. The pilots of the crashed plane managed to eject.
    ("Sight")
  • Fisman
    Fisman 24 November 2015 11: 42 New
    +2
    In addition, it is not at all surprising who will stand up for the Ishilovites ......
  • uhu189
    uhu189 24 November 2015 11: 43 New
    0
    Our SU-24s seem to fly with hanging tanks, only hope for that. And the profile does not understand - Su-24 or MIG-23 ... Too few details.
  • flSergius
    flSergius 24 November 2015 11: 43 New
    +1
    Западным и натовским СМИ не верю давно и бесповоротно. Они как тот мальчик, который всё кричал "Волк-волк!" Пока наши официально не заявят, мне плевать, что они там пишут.
  • WS
    WS 24 November 2015 11: 45 New
    0
    Mig-23 will be worse
  • IAlex
    IAlex 24 November 2015 11: 45 New
    -14
    The first one went, I wonder when to wait for a worried statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry ...
    1. MEDVED
      MEDVED 24 November 2015 11: 59 New
      +2
      firstly, you have a good meal, you run all the time in front .... you’ve probably been waiting for a long time when our plane gets down ... if ours - you will have a storm of positive emotions, akin to ejaculation, and all this at the time of the statement of the worried foreign ministry. I don’t understand you like that.
      1. IAlex
        IAlex 24 November 2015 18: 25 New
        0
        And you don’t have to understand, more than once GDP is muzzle in G *, but they’re dipping that in Ukraine, in Syria, in Turkey, and he will continue to bleat ...

        I was hoping at least the Foreign Ministry would say something as usual, but even the Foreign Ministry did a puddle of fear, it’s simply impossible to blame Turkey or bring down their plane ...

        We are waiting for the next downed planes, for except for delirium and patriotism for internal use will not be done ...

        T.ch. Ecstasy further from patriotism and grandeur, while all the leaders at the national expense continue to play on and piss * out of fear for their money, drowning Donbas in blood and turning Syria into ruins ...
  • Dr. Lecturer
    Dr. Lecturer 24 November 2015 11: 46 New
    +1
    Yes. exactly turks
  • Bob
    Bob 24 November 2015 11: 47 New
    +3
    Judging by the video, this is the SU-24, possibly the Syrian Air Force, but rather the Russian one. The Turks have repeatedly warned of retaliation, and kept their promises. I hope this fact of aggression will not remain without a tough and decisive answer. A downed plane is an attempt on the state, said Lavrov. In this case, the attempt is doubly, because the military aircraft. Most concerned about the fate of the pilot. Courage and good luck to him.
    The Turks will lose a lot, starting a war with Russia, they will lose the well-fed and contented life that they led for decades in peace. However, R. Erdogan needs a war to satisfy his imperial interests, about which he has repeatedly spoken out. Their history has not taught anything.
  • Ivan Ivanovich
    Ivan Ivanovich 24 November 2015 11: 48 New
    +6
    Serious things have gone ...
  • 75 hammer
    75 hammer 24 November 2015 11: 48 New
    0
    http://www.moscow-post.com/in_world/vvs_turtsii_sbili_neopoznannyj_samolet_na_gr
    anitse_s_siriej19091 /
    Let's wait for confirmation.
    1. Midshipman
      Midshipman 24 November 2015 11: 54 New
      0
      This is old information, look at the date.
  • Mama_Cholli
    Mama_Cholli 24 November 2015 11: 49 New
    17
    Something a lot of construction workers from Turkey are working in Russia - they are taking bread from the Russian people ...
    Isn’t it time for them to sit on the track already?

    Pisi: Shooting a plane that does not even carry air-to-air weapons, and is not going to give an answer, is the same as shooting a pistol at an unarmed person who is not going to attack.
    Or about the same as the Ukrainians' passenger airbus failed in Donetsk.
    Победа турецких"асов" под большим вопросом ...
    1. Aroma77
      Aroma77 24 November 2015 11: 53 New
      +2
      Вот здесь я с тобой солидарен. Сколько объектов из-за этим "партнерам" проиграли. Пора бы их отправлять домой, хлеб насущный зарабатывать!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 24 November 2015 11: 57 New
        +3
        Mama_Cholli (3)
        It is time to end up to rest in Turkey, and in an orderly manner

        This must be done immediately!
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  • Fisman
    Fisman 24 November 2015 11: 49 New
    +3
    Ukrainian media are already actively relishing this topic, how much joy the horses have .....
    1. Mama_Cholli
      Mama_Cholli 24 November 2015 12: 01 New
      +2
      Пусть радуются недоумки. Главное, что бы летчики были в порядке. Думаю сейчас там будет столько всего в воздухе, чтобы обеспечить эвакуацию пилотов, что "смелые" турецкие асы улетят в какую-нибудь другую страну-подальше от греха.
  • Hydrograph
    Hydrograph 24 November 2015 11: 49 New
    +3
    RIA Novosti reported our 24 SU
  • Barbudo
    Barbudo 24 November 2015 11: 50 New
    +2
    RosBolt also reports that the Turks shot down
  • Astrahanec
    Astrahanec 24 November 2015 11: 50 New
    0
    http://0s.or3ws5dumvzc4y3pnu.cmle.ru/Charles_Lister/status/669067327506354176 там фото. больше похож на су 24
  • Irbis77
    Irbis77 24 November 2015 11: 51 New
    +7
    You give autonomy for the Kurds in Turkey and as humanitarian aid - a hundred manpads for the Kurdish workers' party !!!!