Reuters: Military aircraft crashed in Syria near the Turkish border

A military plane crashed today in Syria near the Turkish border, reports RIA News Reuters report.

According to the agency, referring to the Turkish channel Haberturk TV, neither the type of aircraft, nor its belonging to any country, is yet unknown.

According to some reports, the pilots (pilot) managed to eject.

The information is contradictory. According to one version, the plane crashed on the border with Turkey, according to another - in the area of ​​Latakia.

According to a report from the Russian Ministry of Defense, "IN SYRIA ON THE BORDER WITH TURKEY, THE RUSSIAN PLANE SU-24 PLAYED DECLINED, EFFECTIVELY, AS A RESULT OF EARTH SHOT."

“Today, on the territory of Syria, allegedly as a result of shelling from the ground, a plane of a Russian air group in the Syrian Arab Republic Su-24 crashed,” the Defense Ministry said in a statement.

“The plane was at an altitude of 6 thousands of meters. The fate of the pilots is specified. According to preliminary data, the pilots managed to eject. It also turns out the circumstances of the fall of the Russian aircraft. The Ministry of Defense notes that the entire flight time the aircraft was located solely over the territory of Syria. This is fixed by objective means of control. ”

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[Scandinavian]

Campaign affairs our plane.

[Mera joota]

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

[Baikonur]

Well, why should you shout ahead of time with unsubstantiated conclusions !? Just like the Yanks plane, a Malaysian Boeing was shot down and Russia was immediately blamed! Do not be like! Maybe it's stored in French! Of course I hope not ours!

neither the type of aircraft nor its affiliation with any country is yet known.

P.S. At the moment
The representative confirmed that a Turkish F-16 aircraft shot down an unknown military aircraft after violating the country's airspace.

The plane crashed in the Syrian province of Latakia. According to unconfirmed reports, he was Russian. Two pilots ejected.

This is Newspaper.ru

Damn, if ours was shot down, then in the light of the latest events and speeches of Putin, Lavrov - this is a declaration of warriors!

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

So for sure, Russian. http://news.rambler.ru/incidents/32022819/
Although according to other sources, the Syrian.

Either a malfunction or air defense of the middle hand. What was mentioned more than once. The main thing now is to ensure the evacuation of the pilot.

PS
More accurate data can be obtained at 20:00 Moscow time, Russia 24, or Russia 1. P.t. in the first minutes there is usually a mess. Who hit whom.

[Telakh]

There is information that our su-24 overwhelmed the Turkish f-16 over the territory of Syria when it was taken into account, after which the su-24 shot down the Turks from the ground.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Telakh

There is information that our su-24 blocked the Turkish f-16 over the territory of Syria when it was taken into account, after which the su-24s were shot down by Turks

It doesn’t matter if it was shot down by a Turkish plane or was shot down by the Turks from the ground. Now it’s important what we will do. Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???

[uhu189]

Support the Kurds with the Workers Party of Kurdistan. There are no other counter options.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???

Well, for starters, calm, without nerves, bring the RF Armed Forces into full combat. What seems to me already done.

Further clarification of the reasons for this action. If it’s Turks, then ask - haven’t you messed up something? If not beguiled. That their plane gets off. Since there was an attack on the Russian Federation, Turkey is an aggressor state, and not an aggressor in words - like in Ukraine, but not in deed. And by and large it must be stopped.

P.t. an attack on a Russian plane is an attack on the territory of R.F. The fact is very serious. P.t. planes do not crash when breaking the border, of course you didn’t want to fight. If the aircraft is adequate, it does not go astray. I do not think that drying broke through to Istanbul.

In any case, all this brings us back to the stage, not of a hybrid, but of the Cold War. Where before the real war, 5 minutes will remain.

[NEXUS]

Quote: _Vladislav_

P.t. planes do not crash when breaking the border, of course you didn’t want to fight.

This whole story looks very much like a sabotage. And it is clear from which direction the wind is blowing. This spring of war is unwinding too quickly. If this is sabotage, then we do not need a military confrontation with NATO. Everything is bad, very bad ... I do not think that GDP is "swallow." This is a direct declaration of war in essence.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: NEXUS

This is a direct declaration of war in essence.

Quite right - this is an attack on R.F. And not from the side of abstract ISIS, but from the side of a completely sovereign state. Which decided to fight with the Russian Federation.

And it doesn’t matter who thought them up, or yourself. This attack on the Russian Federation, how to respond to the attack. Well, different countries in different ways. But a country at the level of Russia is obliged to respond to force by force.

What should Russia do in such a situation? Providing protection to your aircraft, as it is, is not so important.

[Throw]

What to do?
Beat our pilots from the Syrian Turkmens!
http://www.rbc.ru/politics/24/11/2015/565421979a794785532e1976

[miru mir]

Now, definitely. Miss time, transported deep into Syria, but put into the basement, under some kind of mosque.

[The lead]

Quote: Lance

Beat our pilots from the Syrian Turkmens!

One pilot died.

[atalef]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Quite right - this is an attack on R.F. And not from the side of abstract ISIS, but from the side of a completely sovereign state. Which decided to fight with the Russian Federation

If we consider a violation of the airspace of a sovereign state (on which Turkey insists 0 and more than once - then of course

Quote: _Vladislav_

. This is an attack on the Russian Federation,

Now it does not play a role.
what's with the pilots
?

Quote: _Vladislav_

But a country at the level of Russia is obliged to respond to force by force

There will be no answer.

[Scraptor]

Why so sure of this? If we are right, then there will be more than one, and with "special cynicism."

[EvilLion]

He should know better in the promised land.

[Temples]

What does the promised land have to do with it ???
Here the answer to the declaration of war borders.
You can’t flog a fever. It is a fact.
And the answer is needed, but what? This is a question for specialists.

[Scraptor]

Quote: Temples

Here the answer to the declaration of war borders.

It is possible without an announcement ... But the downing of an airplane, and the more than a greyhound subsequent behavior, is or borders on what?

Always punished for this ... They will punish here.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: atalef

There will be no answer.

If it still turns out that the co-pilot died, I do not envy Turkey, and to all who support it.

The Turks understood what we were doing in Syria, they understood what the RF Armed Forces were. In addition, the official Kremlin has denied violating the Turkish border. And that means it smells like kerosene.

In addition, the Ministry of Defense understands that if they do not answer this, they will bring down another plane.

[atalef]

Quote: _Vladislav_

If it still turns out that the co-pilot died, I do not envy Turkey, and to all who support it.

The victim is not a problem - a living problem.
About the dead - they will forget in 3 days, with the live showdown long (or do you think it will be returned tomorrow?) Turkmens.

Quote: _Vladislav_

Turks understood what we do in Syria

They understand, just why did you decide that you support?

Quote: _Vladislav_

In addition, the official Kremlin has denied violating the Turkish border. And that means it smells like kerosene.

I don’t think so. check in the coming days

Quote: veksha50

Both seemed to be catapulted, and our helicopters are looking for them.

I do not think that the rescue operation will be successful. helicopters in the highlands fill up no problem, and the Turkmens at home. Look for them there in the caves.

[NEXUS]

Quote: _Vladislav_

In addition, the Ministry of Defense understands that if they do not answer this, they will bring down another plane.

And not only the Turks will be able to do this then, but the British and Americans ... besides, we need to understand what resonance it all produced within the Russian Federation ... and the GDP understands that the people are waiting for an answer, moreover, quite comparable.

[Scraptor]

Even if they have not yet been knocked down, it’s all the same for what, and how, they did, they should take revenge ...

[shuhartred]

Quote: atalef

If we consider a violation of the airspace of a sovereign state (on which Turkey insists 0 and more than once - then of course

It is still necessary to prove it. And shoot down only if it does not respond to warnings.

Quote: atalef

There will be no answer.

I agree. But not because we have "snot" chew, but for objective reasons. A Korean Boeing was shot down at 88 (or what?), Shot down. Was there a response? No. Powers was shot down and also by zeros (although there was nothing to show the Americans there, where the bastard had climbed)

[Russiamoy]

there will be no answer, since there is nothing to answer. what will we do if Turkey closes the strait for us, so there will be nothing in return.

[aleks 62 next]

.... There will be no answer ....

.... I'm not sure .... Very much the GDP was pissed off with the downed "airbus" .....

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: atalef

1.If you consider a violation of the airspace of a sovereign state (as Turkey insists on 0 and repeated - then of course
2. Now does not play a role.
what's with the pilots
?
But a country at the level of Russia is obliged to respond to force by force
3. There will be no answer.

1. Violation of space, when there are battles along the border, this is a normal phenomenon solved at the level of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs or presidents.
2: Pilots, according to the Turks, captured by Turkish special forces.
3. There will be several answers.
- Turkish planes will be shot down over the territories of Syria and Iraq;
- the flights of Russian planes will be guarded by attack aircraft and fighters, which will destroy missile positions on the ground, do not give a damn that it is Turkey and they will shoot down attacking planes;
- the departure of Russians to Turkey will be banned;
- Russia will abandon the Turkish stream and accelerate gas supplies to China;
- there will be a harsh warning at the ambassadorial level;
- there will be a conversation of the Presidents.
And if Turkey embarks on the path of confrontation, it will receive the full program with the slightest violation of the borders of Syria and Iraq. For any attempts to cross the border by militants or their units.
If I were to solve such issues, then I would still begin to destroy the militant camps in Turkey and would help modern weapons to Kurdish rebels in Turkey.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: atalef

If we consider a violation of the airspace of a sovereign state (on which Turkey insists 0 and more than once - then of course

Turks fly illegally over Syria, so it turns out they also need to be shot down.

Quote: atalef

There will be no answer.

In these minutes, it’s just being decided what the answer is and what it will be.
But first, Turkey must officially confirm that this is her business.

The crash of a Russian Air Force aircraft is either a tragic accident (malfunction) or an attack.
If somewhere in the world a plane of the Air Force of the Russian Federation crashed, this may not mean anything, but may mean the beginning of the war.

[atalef]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Turks fly illegally over Syria, so it turns out they also need to be shot down.

Yeah!

Quote: _Vladislav_

In these minutes, it’s just being decided what the answer is and what it will be. But first, Turkey must officially confirm that this is her doing.

Confirmed

Quote: _Vladislav_

The crash of a Russian Air Force aircraft is either a tragic accident (malfunction) or an attack. If somewhere in the world a plane of the Air Force of the Russian Federation crashed, this may not mean anything, but may mean the beginning of the war.

nobody for the sake of Assad will begin the 3rd world

[Znayka]

But to start World War III, it’s not necessary, the number of Russian tourists in Turkey in a year is about 3 million. The first is a complete ban on the entry of our tourists into Turkey, and through neighboring countries. What will entail huge financial losses in the tourism business of this country (about $ 2 billion per year). The second, third and fourth on the development of the situation ... It would be ridiculous to fulfill contracts for energy supplies to the aggressor .., quickly fill the gap in the supply of the same gas (1 billion cubic meters per year, more than 27.4 % of total consumption) Turkey will not be able to, that is, literally in a couple of months, most industrial enterprises will just get up .., the population will have to warm food on the street at the stake ... So even without declaring war, Erdogan’s life can be very complicated

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: atalef

nobody for the sake of Assad will begin the 3rd world

Will see

[Oleg16661]

Quote: atalef

nobody for the sake of Assad will begin the 3rd world

And where does Assad?
It was not a Syrian plane that was shot down, but a Russian one. If they shot down a Syrian plane, then ours, most likely, would have scolded the Turks a little and that’s all.
Here, there was an attack on an airplane of the Russian Federation, which flew over the territory of Syria, but this does not mean that it lost its membership in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation. Moreover, he flew legally, unlike the so-called coalition aircraft.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: _Vladislav_

But first, Turkey must officially confirm that this is her business.

This is not at all necessary. Russia is fighting a war in this zone. All of its facilities monitor airspace. All missile launches from the ground and aircraft flights are easily recorded by our overseas tracking stations. In your opinion, it turns out that it is possible, for example, to attack by ground forces, to destroy everything around, to take people into slavery, then return beyond their borders and then claim that it’s not us, prove that it’s us.

[The lead]

It is necessary to break diplomatic relations. Destroying an airplane and killing a pilot is an act of war. We must act quickly and decisively.

[opus]

Quote: atalef

If we consider a violation of the airspace of a sovereign state (on which Turkey insists 0 and more than once - then of course

the concrete statements of the "comrades" of the Israelis are "pleasing".
1. Repeated violations of the airspace of the Israeli Air Force, such countries as:
Lebanon, Syria, Egypt.
UN and Israeli Foreign Ministry inundated with notes
2. Repeated strikes by the Israeli Air Force on the territories of such countries (moreover sovereign): Syria, Iraq
(In June 1981, Israeli aircraft bombed the Osirak nuclear reactor near the Iraqi capital. In September 2007, Israeli aircraft attacked an object in Syria, where, according to Israel, the United States and many experts, the Syrians were building a nuclear reactor.)
3. There were more:

4. The Israeli Air Force’s striking plans for the uranium enrichment plant in Natanz south of Tehran, as well as an underground plant in Fordo near the Shiite holy city of Qom, a heavy water processing plant in Arak.This is Iran, by the way..
those. even the territory of 3 countries
-------------------------------------------------- ---
Moreover, the Israeli Air Force attacks strikingly weak countries (without strong air defense and the Air Force), not during the war, against sovereign endeavors, without any UN mandate, guided by its own interests.
"Fearlessly" with a bandit uncle (the strongest on the planet) in the person of the United States

[Weyland]

Quote: opus

Moreover, the Israeli Air Force attacks strikingly weak countries (without strong air defense and the Air Force), not during the war

The fact is that Israel is officially at war with almost all its Arab neighbors - just now truce... And violation of the truce is a much less serious crime than violation of the peace, than those chosen by God with might and main use, since they have a reliable "roof" - while...

[Rrrj]

Quote: atalef

But a country at the level of Russia is obliged to respond to force by force
There will be no answer.

Not for you to decide.

[veksha50]

Quote: _Vladislav_

What should Russia do in such a situation? Providing protection to your aircraft, as it is, is not so important.

There must be some adequate answer ... here's what ???

I don’t envy Putin ... we need to make a decision ... Forgive - our feet will be wiped out about us ...

PS No matter how Erdogan, bastard, went down in history as the instigator of the third world war ...

[Ze Kot]

Quote: veksha50

Quote: _Vladislav_

What should Russia do in such a situation? Providing protection to your aircraft, as it is, is not so important.

There must be some adequate answer ... here's what ???

I don’t envy Putin ... we need to make a decision ... Forgive - our feet will be wiped out about us ...

PS No matter how Erdogan, bastard, went down in history as the instigator of the third world war ...

And here it will be clear who is just getting worn out and who is the "kid".

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: veksha50

There must be some adequate answer ... here's what ???

Adequate is to bring down a Turkish Air Force plane. This is adequate.

[veksha50]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Adequate is to bring down a Turkish Air Force plane. This is adequate.

No ... This is not enough ... So, the answer must be inadequate ... But such that not only Erdogan would experience it on himself, but that the Turkish people would say "thank you" to him ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: veksha50

No ... This is not enough ... So, the answer must be inadequate ... But such that not only Erdogan would experience it on himself, but that the Turkish people would say "thank you" to him ...

In Brussels, an urgent commission gathered on the fact that our bomber was shot down ... something quickly and efficiently. I think it was not planned yesterday. That is, a provocation on the subject of forcing the GDP to make concessions on the Syrian issue, at the same time checking the Kremlin’s resolve.

[Gani]

don't say it, it seems that today everything is one to one and the swollen glavvelikukr with his opuses in "support" of the Crimean Tatars and Cameron with defense papers and claims that the Russian Federation looks askance at NATO and there were still ...

[veksha50]

Quote: NEXUS

I think this was not all planned yesterday. That is, a provocation on the subject of forcing the GDP to make concessions on the Syrian issue, at the same time checking the Kremlin’s resolve.

About two hours ago I came across an interview with our combat pilot ... His opinion: the operation was planned, and they waited for the case to happen ... That is, practically, like an ambush regiment group, he says that the pilot guys could not even to think and expect that weapons will be used against them, since even in more complex cases in international practice, weapons are not used and planes are not shot down ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: veksha50

About two hours ago I came across an interview with our combat pilot ... His opinion: the operation was planned, and they waited for the case to happen ... That is, practically, like an ambush regiment group, he says that the pilot guys could not even to think and expect that weapons will be used against them, since even in more complex cases in international practice, weapons are not used and planes are not shot down ...

Question-Why did our bomber fly WITHOUT COVERING fighters? Despite the fact that more than once or twice the Turks announced that they would shoot down our planes.

[atalef]

Quote: veksha50

No ... This is not enough ... So, the answer must be INadequate ..

start with a simple one, after the Turkish provocation with Mavi Marmara, the Israelis simply stopped going there. And this one was not a sign from above.

Сfrom the thousands of Israelis who inundated Turkish hotels every year, these are largely collectives of large enterprises that went on an organized vacation. And they four years ago announced a decisive boycott to Turkish resorts.

“All we hear is the agitation of travel agents who want to attract people to Turkey, they say that the Israelis have started to go, but if anyone went to Turkey in those prosperous years, it was enterprises. When the statistics wrote about three hundred - five hundred thousand people, these are not private traders who bought a ticket and flew. It was an organized vacation, collective vacations at enterprises. This was the only way to gain all this tourist mass, "explains Yakov Alush, director of the Vaadim company.

Almost all large enterprises and institutions are boycotting Turkey now. Bezeq, El-Al, Bituach Leumi, Osem, Technion, Hapoalim Bank, municipalities, hospitals, ministries - everyone who sends workers abroad in an organized manner.

“It all started even before Mavi Marmara. We stopped going to Turkey in the fall of XNUMX. Because we heard that Erdogan talked about Israel and about Jews even before Marmara,” said Haim Tamam, chairman of the Egged Labor Committee. “It hurt us, most of the organized trips in Egged were to Turkey, hundreds of our workers with their families were vacationing there, and after these words of Erdogan, with all due respect to him, we decided that we would not go to Turkey anymore.”

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: veksha50

I don’t envy Putin ... we need to make a decision ... Forgive - our feet will be wiped out about us ...

The answer will be several of them.
- Turkish planes will be shot down over the territories of Syria and Iraq;
- the flights of Russian planes will be guarded by attack aircraft and fighters, which will destroy missile positions on the ground, do not give a damn that it is Turkey and they will shoot down attacking planes;
- the departure of Russians to Turkey will be banned;
- Russia will abandon the Turkish stream and accelerate gas supplies to China;
- there will be a harsh warning at the ambassadorial level;
- there will be a conversation of the Presidents.
And if Turkey embarks on the path of confrontation, it will receive the full program with the slightest violation of the borders of Syria and Iraq. For any attempts to cross the border by militants or their units.
If I were to solve such issues, then I would still begin to destroy the militant camps in Turkey and would help modern weapons to Kurdish rebels in Turkey.

[veksha50]

Quote: Алексей_К

I would also begin to destroy the militant camps on the territory of Turkey and would help modern weapons to the Kurdish rebels on the territory of Turkey.

Here, the very thing ... What was said earlier - it will not hit Turkey so much as the destruction of militant camps in Turkey ...

Well, the fact that many are against the transfer of weapons to the Kurds (supposedly they will make a "goat" for us later), so we can put it this way: let's see ... We need to decide here and now, urgently, and not tomorrow ...

[opus]

Quote: veksha50

There must be some adequate answer ... here's what ???

1. In 2013, the volume of Russian-Turkish commodity circulation decreased by 2012% compared to 3,8, to 32,03 billion US dollars. Imports from Russia decreased by 5,9% (to 25,06 billion US dollars), and exports to Russia increased by 4,3% (to 6,97 billion US dollars). The negative balance in trade with Russia is 18,1 billion US dollars.
2.

IN RUSSIA 17: 41, 24 November 2015
Russian Foreign Ministry recommended that Russians not visit Turkey
3. Turkish-Kurdish conflict

Quote: veksha50

There must be some adequate answer ... here's what ???

1. In 2013, the volume of Russian-Turkish commodity circulation decreased by 2012% compared to 3,8, to 32,03 billion US dollars. Imports from Russia decreased by 5,9% (to 25,06 billion US dollars), and exports to Russia increased by 4,3% (to 6,97 billion US dollars). The negative balance in trade with Russia is 18,1 billion US dollars.
2.

IN RUSSIA 17: 41, 24 November 2015
Russian Foreign Ministry recommended that Russians not visit Turkey
3. Turkish-Kurdish conflict

Quote: NEXUS

Everything is bad, very bad ... I do not think that the GDP will "swallow" it. This is a direct declaration of war in essence.

Andrey, here is a map ..... with "accents".

The rest will be ... "as always", unfortunately ... "colleagues, partners .." friends & q
ot;

[NEXUS]

Quote: ancient

The rest will be ... "as always", unfortunately ... "colleagues, partners .." friends & q
ot;

No Sasha, I feel that everything has changed dramatically after Watermelon ... uh ...

[ancient]

Quote: NEXUS

, I feel that everything has changed dramatically after Watermelon ... uh ...

The lending is fresh, but I can hardly believe it ...

[NEXUS]

Quote: ancient

Quote: NEXUS

, I feel that everything has changed dramatically after Watermelon ... uh ...

The lending is fresh, but I can hardly believe it ...

Me too ... only at the level of feelings, something tells me that everything will not end so simply. I think you have been visited by these feelings. But we'll see. Everything will become clear in the next few hours.

[Ramses_IV]

What did you all arrange "Turks-Turks ?!"

And nothing that at an altitude of 6000 m can get it "Cube" or "Wasp", which were sold to Africa and to the same Arabs is a fucking mountain!

Before writing speculation, wait for what competent sources say.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Ramses_IV

Before writing speculation, wait for what competent sources say.

This is very good advice for you. Already everyone recognizes the official Turkey as well.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Ramses_IV

What did you all arrange "Turks-Turks ?!"

And nothing that at an altitude of 6000 m can get it "Cube" or "Wasp", which were sold to Africa and to the same Arabs is a fucking mountain!

Before writing speculation, wait for what competent sources say.

In the mountains you do not need to have either a cube or a wasp. If the plane focuses on sea level, then Stinger or a similar complex does not give a damn about it. He will shoot down without taking into account the height above sea level, and 6000 m. In this case, the reachable height for him.

[222222]

"" "24.11.2015/11/59 (XNUMX:XNUMX)
The Russian Su-24 crashed in Syria
Today, on the territory of Syria, presumably as a result of shelling from the ground, a plane of the Russian air group in the Syrian Arab Republic Su-24 crashed.

The plane was at an altitude of 6 thousand meters. The fate of the pilots is being clarified. According to preliminary data, the pilots managed to eject.

The circumstances of the fall of the Russian aircraft are also being clarified.

Throughout the flight, the aircraft was exclusively over the territory of Syria. This is fixed by objective means of control.

Press service and information department of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation ""

.GS of Turkey allegedly at 9 20 24 .11. 15 for 5 minutes of unidentified identity violated the airspace of Turkey 10 times. Two F-16s were used ..
..24 Kasım 2015 tarihinde saat 09.20 civarında Hatay Yayladağı bölgesinde Türk Hava Sahasını ihlal eden milliyeti bilinmeyen bir uçak defalarca (beş dakika içerisinde etılamühalışıtı Sılımılıtıtalıtı
Söz konusu uçağa angajman kuralları çerçevesinde 24 Kasım 2015 saat 09.24'te bölgede hava devriye görevinde bulunan iki adet F-16 uçağımız tarafından müdahalede bulunulmuştur.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: _Vladislav_

without nerves, bring the RF Armed Forces into full combat

1. We no longer have nerves ...
I want quick good news and a miracle - so that only enemies die in the war ...

2. Regarding the combat readiness of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, you wrote correctly.
Only, I’m afraid the Turks have no intelligence, and it is precisely these that will not succeed in frightening them.
But flying over Turkey along and across the link of unidentified aircraft would be right ...

They said there was a time when the MIG-24 from Syria returned home directly at the highest altitude through the NATO country ...

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Sergey S.

when the MIG-24 from Syria returned

?? What is the MiG-24?

[Sergey S.]

Quote: The Cat

??? What is the MiG-24?

In the 1973 war, our pilots covered Damascus from Israeli phantoms and kfirs ...
And home was also difficult ...
Mig-24 had a speed of more than 2.2 M.
And empty in the jump, as they said, rose above 30 km.

Returns, at least some, are:
Over Syria they went to the fast and the furious, took off into the stratosphere and over the American air defense systems in Turkey home ...
They said that the pilots found themselves somewhere over Voronezh ...

The capabilities of the aircraft were incredible.
Then the bastard Belenko flew to Japan on such a trip.
The Japanese could not know this - they raised fighters ...
Belenko landed MiG-24 at their airport ...

American F-15, as a copy of this aircraft.

[serg2108]

Well, ours flew there on the MIG-25 THE TRUTH IS LONG AGAIN ...

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: _Vladislav_

P.t.

Your text is mostly clear. But what does the abbreviation "PT" mean? This is not a common abbreviation.

[Butchcassidy]

The question is different. Turks are still provocateurs. And Erdogan is not particularly adequate at all.

[Hon]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Turkey is an aggressor state, and not in words an aggressor - like in Ukraine, but not in deed. And by and large it must be stopped.

And Turkey is a member of NATO. how about fighting the alliance? third world by the way

[Scraptor]

How about the fact that it was NATO who did not hesitate to bomb Serbia?

[Kindof]

One can see the connection with the events of the past two weeks:
1. Permission to British pilots to attack Russian aircraft in the event of a "threat of life" (flashed in the British media, was to become on the VO);
2. Negotiations of the Obanana with Erdogan on joint control of the Syrian-Turkish border;
3. Escort of our strategic bombers by NATO (Norwegians, then Britons) fighters in international airspace.

All this indicates the presence of a common plan for the Armed Forces of the NATO countries regarding the air forces
So we were brought to the point of bifurcation ..

[just exp]

there is . shoot down Turkish planes, if they fly into Syria, if air defense means are revealed, then when trying to fly our planes, fire at PRR.
and it is imperative to ban tourism in Turkey, we have a lot of beautiful places near ourselves, and woodpeckers export money to the Turks.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: uhu189

Support the Kurds with the Workers Party of Kurdistan. There are no other counter options.

1. This is the best option. And in addition to recognize the statehood of the Kurdrv and Armenians in Turkey.
2. This is an almost impossible option - the term "working" gets in the way.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: uhu189

Support the Kurds with the Workers Party of Kurdistan. There are no other counter options.

Shoot down the Turks over the territory of Iraq.

[bubalik]

Alexander Romanov (4) RU  Today, 12: 17 ↑

,,, as usual, will give the Turkish Ambassador a note of protest and and all,

[fyvaprold]

Quote: bubalik

,,, as usual, they will give the Turkish Ambassador a note of protest and that’s all,

And ... weapons to the Kurds. Sincerely.

[Telakh]

It’s important not how the Su-24 was shot down, but how it all began, and why the F-16 failed

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Telakh

It’s important not how the Su-24 was shot down, but how it all began, and why the F-16 failed

It’s not important anymore. The plane is shot down and this is the main thing.

[just exp]

was there a boy? I'm talking about a downed Turkish F-16.

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Quote: Telakh

There is information that our su-24 blocked the Turkish f-16 over the territory of Syria when it was taken into account, after which the su-24s were shot down by Turks

It doesn’t matter if it was shot down by a Turkish plane or was shot down by the Turks from the ground. Now it’s important what we will do. Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???

Sanya, this is what I wrote a month ago, if the Russian Federation does not stop bombing the SSA, they will begin to shoot down planes.
SSA is supported by Turkey, Saudi Arabia and the United States - it is clear that they would not tolerate this.
Now, in fact, the question is not by plane, but by pilot.
Where is he, will there be a rescue operation, to whom will he be captured and will it become a bargain.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: atalef

Sanya, this is what I wrote a month ago, if the Russian Federation does not stop bombing the SSA, they will begin to shoot down planes.

Well, I also had no doubt that they knocked down, you and I skipped it in skype. Sanya, however now, the warrior’s spring is unwound more and more. Our situation is now in a difficult situation, there are not many moves. The Bosphorus is controlled by the Turks and Erdogan understands this, although he is a simple six in NATO, but it is NATO.

Quote: atalef

SSA supported by Turkey

Sanya, I don’t know who you think Turkey supports, but at the checkpoints with Turkey ISIS black flags. And this is Turkey’s response to the bombing of fuel trucks, Turkey suffers losses.

Quote: atalef

Where is he, will there be a rescue operation, to whom will he be captured and will it become a bargain.

They say one Turks captured.
In general, this is only the beginning. Khrenova for all this will end, and Turkey itself will cease to exist at all. The stakes are too high.

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Sanya, however it may be now, but the spring of the warriors spins more and more.

Of course, there are steps after which you can’t go back

Quote: Alexander Romanov

.Our now is in a difficult situation, there are not many moves

There will be no moves, I think Russia will reduce the degree of escalation and begin to negotiate with the SSA

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Sanya, I don’t know who you think Turkey supports, but at the checkpoints with Turkey ISIS black flags. And this is Turkey’s response to the bombing of fuel trucks, Turkey suffers losses.

Turkmenov. Sanya. Turkmenov, Pay attention to where the plane was shot down and where the pilot (s) hit.
After . as last week, the Russian Aerospace Forces erased the dust of a Turkmen village; you yourself understand the question will not be easy to solve

Quote: Alexander Romanov

In general, this is only the beginning. Khrenova for all this will end, and Turkey itself will cease to exist at all. The stakes are too high.

That is the whole point.
I told you . just get into the war. it’s hard to get out and NO ONE knows how it will all end

Quote: Albert1988

What does this CCA have to do with it?

While the SSA is not ISIS.

Quote: Albert1988

! Our oil tankers began to bomb, the oil tankers - that’s the Turks and rocked ... We are waiting for an answer ...

No, this is a very simple answer that suits many
I tell you - there is no problem with fuel trucks.

The problem is that Russia is pushing the SSA into a coalition with Assad - the bombing.
Their reaction was a matter of time.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: atalef

I think Russia will reduce the degree of escalation and begin to negotiate with the SSA

It makes no sense, they are six sponsored and managed by completely different.

Quote: atalef

After . as last week, the Russian Aerospace Forces erased the dust of a Turkmen village; you yourself understand the question will not be easy to solve

Sanya, remember how your special forces of the Turks interrupted on the ships sailing to Gaza. With the Turks now it’s impossible for good.

Quote: atalef

Their reaction was a matter of time.

Okay, anyway, there’s nothing to talk about by and large. The bearded one captured the pilot and ....... if they kill him now, no one will talk to anyone at all.

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It makes no sense, they are six sponsored and managed by completely different.

It makes sense and now the operation in Syria. divided into 2 periods. before and after the plane. now each side. will begin to forgive steps - there will be no hasty actions

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Sanya, remember how your special forces of the Turks interrupted on the ships sailing to Gaza. With the Turks now it’s impossible for good.

You’ll see (it seems to me that way) - the pilots are captured by an unknown group, there will be videos on the Internet, everything will be designed for one thing, to raise the fuss in the press and Russia the same.
People will start asking questions.
rescue operation is problematic - can lead to new victims (again, medium?)
in general, it is not yet clear where it will go. but initially this is a problem for the Russian Federation

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The pilot was captured by one bearded man and ....... if they kill him now, no one will talk to anyone at all.

Who is killing a hen laying golden eggs? Yes, they will shake and cherish it.

[Rrrj]

Quote: atalef

Quote: Alexander Romanov
The pilot was captured by one bearded man and ....... if they kill him now, no one will talk to anyone at all.
Who is killing a hen laying golden eggs? Yes, they will shake and cherish it.

That’s what I would have done, you, but not they — here the stakes are high — they do not need a ransom (they have money anyway), and Russia will not make concessions.

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It makes no sense, they are six sponsored and managed by completely different.

It makes sense and now the operation in Syria. divided into 2 periods. before and after the plane. now each side. will begin to forgive steps - there will be no hasty actions

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Sanya, remember how your special forces of the Turks interrupted on the ships sailing to Gaza. With the Turks now it’s impossible for good.

You’ll see (it seems to me that way) - the pilots are captured by an unknown group, there will be videos on the Internet, everything will be designed for one thing, to raise the fuss in the press and Russia the same.
People will start asking questions.
rescue operation is problematic - can lead to new victims (again, medium?)
in general, it is not yet clear where it will go. but initially this is a problem for the Russian Federation

Quote: Alexander Romanov

The pilot was captured by one bearded man and ....... if they kill him now, no one will talk to anyone at all.

Who is killing a hen laying golden eggs? Yes, they will shake and cherish it.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: atalef

Who is killing a hen laying golden eggs? Yes, they will shake and cherish it.

You are wrong. In the Caucasus, bearded Islamists hunted for our pilots, and if they caught, they tortured them with medieval methods and did not ask for any money for them. They were ultimately killed, as were snipers.

[fyvaprold]

Quote: atalef

After . how last week the aerospace forces of the Russian Federation wiped to dust Turkmen village you understand the question will not be easy to solve

Turkmen village? Surely with a children's hospital, an orphanage and a camp for girls needlewomen? Nu-nu.

[alex-s]

Now, first of all, we need to urgently get our tourists out of Turkey!

[EvilLion]

Ish, you are a Turkmen village. And there is such a people as the Turkmens, or the same artificial nation of owls. period like Uzbeks? And in the occupied ISIS, etc. territories have long been no civilian.

SSA, if they have any problems, can bring to hell. From the point of view of Russia, they are just illegal gangs like the same Home Army, and in the war they either disarm voluntarily or destroy them forcibly.

[veksha50]

"After. The Russian Aerospace Forces wiped out a Turkmen village to dust last week" ...

Yeah ... And Turkmenbashi spoke to Putin yesterday about this ... And he expressed concern about the use of Russian airplanes and ships of the Caspian region to strike at IS ...

[Albert1988]

Quote: atalef

Sanya, this is what I wrote a month ago, if the Russian Federation does not stop bombing the SSA, they will begin to shoot down planes.

What does this CCA have to do with it? Atalef, prioritize! Our oil tankers began to bomb, the oil tankers - that's the Turks and rocked ...
Waiting for an answer...

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Albert1988

Our oil tankers began to bomb, the oil tankers - that's the Turks and rocked ...

Whose oil tankers are you from? Are you a member of ISIS?

[Albert1988]

Quote: Алексей_К

Whose oil tankers are you from?

Read carefully, dear, this is our (our pilots) began to bomb oil tankers (Igilov-Turkish), here the Turks began to lay bricks on this occasion and went on such an ugly provocation, apparently with nerves quite wrong with the Janissaries ...

[EvilLion]

So we will bomb Turkey. Libya was accused of terrorist attacks at one time and bombed a little bit, even without declaring war.

"Calibers" release a pack and let them intercept.

[tlauicol]

Well done ! The Turks immediately block the straits and tryndets of our group in Syria! Check and checkmate! Isil rushing to Damascus again, and our military specialists having abandoned their equipment, are being evacuated on the ships of the SR squadron around Europe to the Baltic and the North.
and a pack of Tomahawks will be heavier. This is a war with NATO. Nobody needs the third world war. Most likely there will be coexistence and concessions in Syria in exchange for pilots (if they are alive)

[Makarov]

then a pack of tomahawks, then a war no one needs ... it does not work out logically ...

[miru mir]

If catapulted and captured, there is hope.

[just exp]

and what, without a strait, ours can’t get there anymore?

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: just EXPL

and what, without a strait, ours can’t get there anymore?

The closure of the straits for Russian ships will mark the beginning of hostilities. What will they stop? Destroy with torpedoes, missiles, mining or from serf cannons?

[EvilLion]

Repeat until opening. The situation, as it were, does not imply calm diplomatic decisions. In principle, the Turks could block the passage through the straits earlier, and not arrange a provocation for which you can get too tough.

[shuhartred]

Quote: Tlauicol

and a pack of Tomahawks will be heavier.

After a pack of "axes", a pack of "yars" will fly and Turkey will become a glass radioactive desert. The third world will be or not, and the Turks will not care.

[aleks 62 next]

.....Well done ! The Turks immediately block the straits and tryndets of our group in Syria! ...

.... Tryndets will not be .... It will be difficult, but bearable .... But if the gas is cut off for the Turks (60% of Turkey’s demand is Russian gas), then in a month Erdogan will be in a sperm - local business elites will drive ..... Something like that ....

[serg2108]

the number of cruise missiles in stock at the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation can decide the matter and in whose favor ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: EvilLion

So we will bomb Turkey.

Turkey is NATO, to bomb Turkey is the 3rd world.
The bearded captured our pilot, this is the scribe. And I don’t know what to do now with our attitude towards the Turks, if he is also killed on camera. To break off all relations with Turkey, I don’t know what else. But you need to do something

[Albert1988]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

To break off all relations with Turkey, I don’t know what else. But you need to do something

Firstly, a couple of T-160's on constant duty are nearby, and then with a high probability the fuse will pass ...

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Albert1988

Firstly, a couple of T-160's on constant duty are nearby, and then with a high probability the fuse will pass ...

What is "T-160"? There is no such tank yet.

[Albert1988]

Quote: Алексей_К

What is "T-160"? There is no such tank yet.

I apologize, but did you set yourself the task of finding fault with words, for lack of the opportunity to find fault with the content? With all due respect, but it is precisely this impression.
Naturally meant the Tu-160, a strategic missile carrier which))))
I dialed from a mobile phone, it’s not so convenient there, and even then with such news it’s hard to maintain emotional balance, so I missed a black mark ...

[WUA 518]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Break all relations with Turkey, something else I do not know what.

Hi Sanya. And how many of our tourists are there now?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: WUA 518

Hi Sanya. And how many of our tourists are there now?

Great Sasha! Evacuation, or do you have other options?
The funny thing is that people who have bought tickets to Turkey now, having watched the news about the plane, will say, oh, what horror and stuffing things in the trunk of a taxi they will go to the airport on vacation to Antalya.

[WUA 518]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

are there any other options?

There are no others, but it is also time. And it can blaze at any moment.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: WUA 518

. And it can blaze at any moment.

Sanya, yes, I already wrote about it too, the flywheel of the warriors is being developed, and I don’t understand what to do.
I'm afraid that stopping it is no longer possible.

[WUA 518]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

I don’t understand what to do already.
I'm afraid that stopping it is no longer possible.

According to SNN, just one pilot died. God forbid!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: WUA 518

According to SNN, just one pilot died. God forbid!

Sent possibly died, although SNN is SNN.

[miru mir]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Our bearded pilot captured

No information yet. Why are you boiling?

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: miru mir

No information yet. Why are you boiling?

Already a video in the news, under the cries of Allahu akbar.

[miru mir]

They will cry their chants, even if you stumble. There is no information about the pilots yet. Maybe they will also pull it out, probably the special forces are already spinning there.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: miru mir

. There is no information about the pilots yet. Maybe they will also pull it out, probably the special forces are already spinning there.

Maybe you don’t, but we have.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: miru mir

Why are you boiling?

Write in literary Russian, not a criminal camp hair dryer.

[EvilLion]

NATO will not lift a finger. If they sit in Turkey, then these are the problems of Turkey.

[mitya24]

And a NATO member country to shoot down a military aircraft of the Russian Federation is not 3-I world ????

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: mitya24

And a NATO member country to shoot down a military aircraft of the Russian Federation is not 3-I world ????

No, this is not 3-I world.

[Scraptor]

Well then, hitting the floor of her airfields or the downing of her aircraft and the removal of air defense systems, is also not World War III.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Turkey is NATO, to bomb Turkey is the 3rd world.

Isn't every second person on the site calling for "Destroy Fashington"?

And this is 100% 3rd World! And the last one!

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: The Cat

Isn't every second person on the site calling for "Destroy Fashington"?

Yeah calls, sitting ass in a soft chair.

[Weyland]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

bomb Turkey this is the 3rd world

Not a fact yet. Article 5 of the NATO Charter is so well written ...
“An armed attack on one or more of them in Europe or North America will be considered as an attack on them as a whole, and therefore agree that if such an armed attack takes place, each of them, in exercise of law for individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will help To the Contracting Party undergoing, or to the Contracting Parties subjected to such an attack, by the immediate implementation of such an individual or joint action as it considers necessary, including the use of armed force to restore and subsequently maintain the security of the North Atlantic region.

So if he considers it necessary to use armed force, he will apply, and if not, he will apply some other "individual or joint action" - for example, a note of protest. Most likely, the sanctions will be extended. What a horror ...

[Weyland]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

bomb Turkey this is the 3rd world

Not a fact yet. Article 5 of the NATO Charter is so well written ...
“An armed attack on one or more of them in Europe or North America will be considered as an attack on them as a whole, and therefore agree that if such an armed attack takes place, each of them, in exercise of law for individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will help To the Contracting Party undergoing, or to the Contracting Parties subjected to such an attack, by the immediate implementation of such an individual or joint action as it considers necessary, including the use of armed force to restore and subsequently maintain the security of the North Atlantic region.

So if he considers it necessary to use armed force, he will apply, and if not, he will apply some other "individual or joint action" - for example, a note of protest. Most likely, the sanctions will be extended. What a horror ...

[Butchcassidy]

Sanya, this is what I wrote a month ago, if the Russian Federation does not stop bombing the SSA, they will begin to shoot down planes.

SSA - who is it? At least someone saw them live?

[miru mir]

Lovers of humanity. The same alahbabahnutnye ...

[twviewer]

Quote: ButchCassidy

SSA - who is it? At least someone saw them live? wassat

and then

[NordUral]

The important thing is not what the Turks will tolerate. It is important whether we snarl or respond adequately and smartly.

[shuhartred]

Quote: atalef

if the Russian Federation doesn’t stop bombing the SSA, planes will be shot down

Atalef you are apparently a specialist. Let me ask you, in which case the Su-24 would not be able to evade the attack? After all, even the most advanced air defense systems do not give a 100% guarantee of defeat?

[mvg]

Just as the Turks did, after the downing of the Syrians RF-4E, to land a couple of Turkish aircraft. With that, right over Incirlik ... where 60 pieces of B61-11 are waiting in the wings. Maybe the plane will fail to fall into storage.
PS: Assuming you shot down an F-16, land everything that flies over Syria .. including the Kurdish air. Stsuki.

[lwxx]

Careful, 64gr and green American men will fly in and will claim that they need to chew on the snot and carefully wave the saber at the computer. I hold it. Shoot down everyone who does not have a UN Security Council mandate and permission from the Syrian Peninsula.

[Alexey-74]

calibrate and point, or knock down a few of them .....

[NEXUS]

Quote: Alexey-74

calibrate and point, or knock down a few of them .....

Think before you write this. "Calibrate" as you write, it means WAR WITH NATO, and in fact the THIRD WORLD. This is not a computer game, but really everything.

[Sashka]

Those. according to your logic, NATO will hammer us, and we should not answer, so as not to provoke the 3rd World ?! Here on the street you will be given a funicular in turnips, and you do not answer, so as not to provoke.

[Weyland]

Sorry for the repost:
Article 5 of the NATO Charter is so well written ...
“An armed attack on one or more of them in Europe or North America will be considered as an attack on them as a whole, and therefore agree that if such an armed attack takes place, each of them, in exercise of law for individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Contracting Partysubjected to, or to Contracting Parties subjected to such an attack, by the immediate implementation of such an individual or joint action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force to restore and subsequently maintain the security of the North Atlantic region.

So if he considers it necessary to use armed force, he will apply, and if not, he will use some other "individual or joint action" - for example, a note of protest . Most likely, the sanctions will be extended. What a horror ...

[Weyland]

Sorry for the repost:
Article 5 of the NATO Charter is so well written ...
“An armed attack on one or more of them in Europe or North America will be considered as an attack on them as a whole, and therefore agree that if such an armed attack takes place, each of them, in exercise of law for individual or collective self-defense recognized by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Contracting Partysubjected to, or to Contracting Parties subjected to such an attack, by the immediate implementation of such an individual or joint action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force to restore and subsequently maintain the security of the North Atlantic region.

So if he considers it necessary to use armed force, he will apply, and if not, he will use some other "individual or joint action" - for example, a note of protest . Most likely, the sanctions will be extended. What a horror ...

[bulvas]

Quote: Alexey-74

calibrate and point, or knock down a few of them .....

It is unlikely that all the same, start with NATO - to fulfill the cherished dream of the United States

But now, everything near the Turkish border is covered with missiles in the closest proximity to the border.

Frontline aircraft no longer send there

[Ka-52]

I also ask myself this question.
IMHO (I would like to make a mistake): there will be angry notes of protest, hype in the media of both countries, reviews of ambassadors and All ...
With Ukraine, We are still calving about something, after turning off the Crimea.

[Was mammoth]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Now it’s important what we will do.

From the first day it was clear that there would be losses. The fate of the pilots was worrying. I hope that the rescue of pilots in such situations is thought out.
It’s too early to say what happened. Insolent Erdogan. I assume that this is his desire (not pilots, they are performers) to play with muscles. And made a provocation. Not heard statements by the Turkish Foreign Ministry.
With your private mind:
1. The Turks wanted a no-fly zone. Arrange. At least over the territory of Syria. For the safety of the Russian aerospace forces.
2. Aircraft of the Turks (if it is) - destroy even if over the territory of Turkey.). Otherwise, Putin’s words about the punishment of accomplices of terrorists are a mess.
3. Strengthen the destruction of ISIS on the border with Turkey in the prospect of Syrian forces entering the border.
4. To declare the dangers of rest of Russian tourists in Turkey and prohibit travel there.
5. ...
We are waiting for accurate information and an adequate response from Russia.

[Sergey S.]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Now it’s important what we will do. Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???

1. The most important question.
2. I am sure that they are already doing ...


PS
Recall from Turkey should not be an ambassador, but tourists.

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Now it’s important what we will do.

We don’t need the Turkish coast ... goodbye Antalya however ..

[shultc]

If these are Turks, then they stepped on the blade of a knife (i.e., scimitar). And she (Turkey) is a country of NATO. It's a challenge!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It doesn’t matter if it was shot down by a Turkish plane or was shot down by the Turks from the ground. Now it’s important what we will do. Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???

Turks bomb Kurds over the territory of Iraq. This is not their territory. So you need to catch and shoot, so as not to hunt Russian planes. And NATO organizations threaten that if they go into conflict with Turkey, even though she is a member of NATO, then they will get the full program.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Алексей_К

And NATO organizations threaten that if they go into conflict with Turkey, even though she is a member of NATO, then they will get the full program.

You apparently forgot about the agreement of NATO members. In case of aggression against one NATO member, this is regarded as aggression against the entire bloc.

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: NEXUS

You probably forgot about the agreement of NATO members.

the situation is extremely bad and it’s impossible to let go and the response of the third world smacks of smell .. If only everything worked out fine with our pilots, otherwise it would lead the situation into a complete deadlock fraught with many consequences for all parties ..

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: afdjhbn67

an extremely bad situation cannot be let down, and the answer of the third world smacks.

What all readers screamed about the 3 World War. It is not suicides who live in NATO and Europe. There will not be this world mess, but Turkey will be forced into adequate international behavior.

[aleks 62 next]

.... You probably forgot about the agreement of NATO members. In case of aggression against one NATO member, this is regarded as aggression against the entire bloc ....

... ..... Greece is also a member of NATO .... And what ??? .... Somewhere NATO, when the Turks in the airspace of Greece consider that they live ???? ..... NATO will not fit into the Turks ..... Oh, they will not ..... Salt in full if something happens .....

[Sashka]

And what is written in them if their member (in the literal and figurative senses) committed aggression against another state?

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: NEXUS

You apparently forgot about the agreement of NATO members. In case of aggression against one NATO member, this is regarded as aggression against the entire bloc.

There are other conditions in NATO. If a NATO country attacks another country, then the answer on the NATO country will be considered in Brussels and only after discussion will a decision be made and not at all in favor of the NATO country. Otherwise, any mongrel from NATO may simply attack Russia and NATO will immediately begin military operations against Russia. DO NOT make readers laugh.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Алексей_К

There are other conditions in NATO. If a NATO country attacks another country, then the answer on the NATO country will be considered in Brussels and only after discussion will a decision be made and not at all in favor of the NATO country. Otherwise, any mongrel from NATO may simply attack Russia and NATO will immediately begin military operations against Russia. DO NOT make readers laugh.

Turkey is not a mongrel like Lithuania or Poland, but the main strategic partner of the United States in the Middle East with its not weak fleet, air force and ground forces. And the decision to shoot down our bomber was clearly not made in Ankara. Do not tell people.

[aleks 62 next]

..... Turkey is not a mongrel, like Lithuania or Poland, ...


.... A mongrel ... A mongrel .... Only a little more .... Who imagines himself to be a bear ..... Legs will pass this soon .... Everything goes to this ....

[starwars]

Here it is right!

[beer-youk]

Carpet bombing 100 km from the Syrian border north inland and 100 km along the front (the area that they cannot block). Ottoman chocks do not understand differently!

[Ze Kot]

Quote: beer-youk

Carpet bombing 100 km from the Syrian border north inland and 100 km along the front (the area that they cannot block). Ottoman chocks do not understand differently!

The answer should be such that another time think.

From the simpler:
1. shoot down aircraft that threaten Russian aircraft.
2. Destroy air defense systems that threaten Russian aircraft.

Although it is unlikely ...

[Butchcassidy]

The bosses will figure it out. Putin said that all the risks were calculated. These, I think, too.

Pilot a speedy return safe and sound to their home air base!

[veksha50]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

What to do???

Um ... Constantinople must become Russian ...

PS And by and large - the United States in the person of NATO (Turkey) has taken such a step that both ours and theirs have one leg hanging over the abyss ...

By and large - this is - more than the Caribbean crisis ... There even did not reach the fighting ... But here - they clearly knew who they shot down ...

[Hon]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

It doesn’t matter if it was shot down by a Turkish plane or was shot down by the Turks from the ground. Now it’s important what we will do. Recall the ambassador from Turkey? What to do???

We will swear, hand over notes, up to the break of relations

[nadezhiva]

Quote: Telakh

There is information that our su-24 overwhelmed the Turkish f-16 over the territory of Syria.

Yes, in the morning there was infa about the catapulted Turkish pilot. But the news is already cleared. This is what remains.

AIS13: 08
In Syria, the Turkish fighter F-16 crashed
The pilot of the F-16 / C fighter during the flight on duty transmitted to the command an ejection message, after which communication with him was interrupted. According to the Turkish Ministry of Defense, the connection with the fighter was interrupted on Monday, at 15.15 Moscow time after the message “Catapult” was received from the pilot.

God knows, m. and fake (about the Turkish pilot) .F-16 as if it turns out yesterday failed.
Well, the Turks duty flights still carry out over the territory of Syria?

[Enot-poloskun]

Turks -! They dig a hole for themselves ...

I don’t know a more idiotic solution ...

The rupture of economic ties between Russia and Turkey will lead to a collapse in Turkey.

[a housewife]

If the Turks close the straits, then the khan of all our sea trade in the south. This is a very big loss !!! What kind of tourists are there! This is to lose everything for which, starting with Peter the Great, they fought!

[Throw]

Either the far hand, or a fighter, or MANPADS ... What can I guess, in all cases except for malfunction, full d-rm ..

[atalef]

Quote: Lance

Either the far hand, or a fighter, or MANPADS ... What can I guess, in all cases except for malfunction, full d-rm ..

The Turkish edition of CNN reported that in the area there are two helicopters sent for pilots who ejected, but it seems the Turks were ahead of opposition fighters, and the pilots were captured. It is reported that there is a battle going on in the area where the pilots land. According to recent reports, one of the pilots captured by the Syrian Turkmen.

[REXSTORZ]

MANPADS 6 km what are you ((there is air or air rocket or air defense

[nadezhiva]

Quote: REXSTORZ

MANPADS 6 km what are you ((there is air or air rocket or air defense

The network is already a sea of ​​versions.

State Duma deputy, Colonel-General of Aviation, Hero of the Soviet Union Nikolai Antoshkin explained that at an altitude of 6000, a “stinger” aircraft can be shot down from the mountain.

Why does the MoD insist on striking from the ground?

[nadezhiva]

From the MO site:

24.11.2015/11/59 (24:XNUMX) In Syria, the Russian Su-XNUMX crashed
Today, on the territory of Syria, presumably as a result of shelling from the ground, a plane of the Russian air group in the Syrian Arab Republic Su-24 crashed.

The plane was at an altitude of 6 thousand meters. The fate of the pilots is being clarified. According to preliminary data, the pilots managed to eject.

The circumstances of the fall of the Russian aircraft are also being clarified.

Throughout the flight, the aircraft was exclusively over the territory of Syria. This is fixed by objective means of control.

Office of the Press Service and Information of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation

Here are the Turks - Twa.ri!

[Abakan]

for oil (sabot wife) avenging

[opus]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Either a malfunction or air defense of the middle hand.

1.malfunction?
(who understands the Arabic thread?)


(and Turkish?)


2. Air defense "middle" hand is not

[Lekxnumx]

Voice-over in the second video, they said that they heard the sound of airplanes, began to shoot, saw the airplane crash. And then they noticed a Turkish airplane that quickly disappeared!

[opus]

Quote: Lek3338

Voice-overs in the second video say that they heard the sound of aircraft began to shoot

This is a Turkish report. I thought so.
but what the Arabs are singing (well, except for "Alla to the bar", I understood that)

[Lekxnumx]

"Sonrasında türk hava sahasının iclerine dogru kuzey istikametine dogru turk F-16 hızla o noktaya yöneldi, turk hava sahasının icine dogru" I translate "Then the F-16 flew inside the airspace to the north side, and quickly disappeared from the spot!" Isn't that an indication that the SU-24 was over Syrian territory?

[veksha50]

Quote: _Vladislav_

The main thing now is to ensure the evacuation of the pilot.

Both seem to have catapulted, and our helicopters are looking for them ... However, there is information on the news line that one of the pilots was already captured by the Syrian Turkmen ...

[Yars]

and what else could one expect from the Turks ?! They are puppets of the West who support ISIS! Arms delivered through Turkey by ISIS, smuggling artifacts stolen in Syria and Libya goes through Turkey to the west!

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: YARS

and what else could one expect from the Turks ?! They are puppets of the West who support ISIS!

If the Turkish Air Force worked then the plane cannot be Russian.
Turkey does not intend to declare war on the Russian Federation. In this case, the Russian ambassador to Turkey is simply called and a note of protest is handed to him.

But the Syrians to bring down is not so scary. Think about it.
Although the same Turkish Air Force and other countries fly in Syrian airspace without permission. And for nothing, no one touches them for some reason.

[Yars]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Quote: YARS

and what else could one expect from the Turks ?! They are puppets of the West who support ISIS!

If the Turkish Air Force worked then the plane cannot be Russian.
Turkey does not intend to declare war on the Russian Federation. In this case, the Russian ambassador to Turkey is simply called and a note of protest is handed to him.

But the Syrians to bring down is not so scary. Think about it.
Although the same Turkish Air Force and other countries fly in Syrian airspace without permission. And for nothing, no one touches them for some reason.

I really wanted it to be wrong, but the successful suppression of ISIS with the help of Russian aviation really does not like the Turks, perhaps the Turks are losing their nerves when Russia breaks terrorism in Syria, they can’t do it!

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: YARS

I really wanted it to be wrong, but the successful suppression of ISIS with the help of Russian aviation really does not like the Turks, perhaps the Turks are losing their nerves when Russia breaks terrorism in Syria, they can’t do it!

If the plane is still Russian, then this is the war gentlemen / comrades.
Unless of course the Turks are not going to apologize.

The plane, if for some time violated the airspace, is simply accompanied by fighters, and it is proposed to leave the airspace.
According to international law, any, and in this case, a Russian aircraft - is the territory of the Russian Federation. Fire was fired on the territory of the Russian Federation. Your actions?

[NEXUS]

Quote: _Vladislav_

If the plane is still Russian, then this is the war gentlemen / comrades.
Unless of course the Turks are not going to apologize.

I don’t think that Erdogan will apologize. He feels safe due to the fact that Turkey is a NATO member. And in the light of such events, it is interesting what the GDP will do.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: NEXUS

I don’t think that Erdogan will apologize. He feels safe due to the fact that Turkey is a NATO member. And in the light of such events, it is interesting what the GDP will do.

I think GDP will do it right.
The development of such situations is usually forecasted earlier, and there are specific steps and countermeasures. It's like in chess when every move is prepared.

This is not pleasant, but not unexpected. Therefore, the answer will be.

[Oleg NSK]

in the light of such events, I wonder what the GDP will do.

.... and what to do? ...
... for good, it would be necessary to clean the border (including the Turkish side) ... but at the moment this is not possible .... hands are tied ... because, tens of thousands of our tourists will start cutting straight on the beaches .. .
... the only way out is to "swallow" for the time being - for the time being, with the simultaneous mass evacuation of our tourists (who, for some reason, are not at all interested in what is happening in the world ... )
... but in general ... - this is a declaration of war on us, by NATO ... not in vain "..de Gol" just piled up ... in fact, Hollande did not want to participate ... convinced "by the events in Paris "

[Sashka]

Well, the Turks are not ISIS, the international community will simply not let go of it. No one will cut.

[Trailer]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Fire was fired on the territory of the Russian Federation. Your actions?

After the arrival of the Khokhlyatsky cities in the Rostov region - wipe and streamline further

[severniy]

Quote: scoop

forget about the war with NATO. This is not the USSR. here you need eggs and not a black judo belt. After all, leave you without chewing gum and Coca-Cola, and where does patreotism go?

Yes, you would have scored NE kinchilos ...

[ancient]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Fire was opened on the territory of the Russian Federation

How many times dill fired at the Rostov region? .. How many civilians and military personnel died?
AND WHAT .. WHAT .. "announced" ????
Or RO is not .. "RF territory"?
Before writing 2 \ "slogans" .. it would be worth .. "think"

[NEXUS]

Quote: ancient

How many times dill fired at the Rostov region? .. How many civilians and military personnel died?
AND WHAT .. WHAT .. "announced" ????
Or RO is not .. "RF territory"?
Before writing 2 \ "slogans" .. it would be worth .. "think"

Sasha, this is a completely different story in my opinion. A military aircraft was shot down, and it was no coincidence. They clearly saw what kind of aircraft it was and who it belonged to. And Erdogan confirmed the fact that our plane was shot down.
I suspect that the answer will be ... but what, military, economic, political or all together ... the devil knows.

[ancient]

Quote: NEXUS

Sasha, this is a completely different story in my opinion. A military aircraft was shot down, and it was no coincidence. They clearly saw what kind of aircraft it was and who it belonged to. And Erdogan confirmed the fact that our plane was shot down.

That's right!

Quote: NEXUS

, military, economic, political or all together ..

Only ... "concern", "extreme warning" and everything in the same spirit ... Do not forget ... they will block the Bosphorus and .. ALL .. "sushi oars".

And that's why the people ... so believing in "their invincibility" .. somehow "omitted" from the discussion .. "urya-slogans" about the S-300, about the "Dome". Which supposedly covers everything and "strangles funds, ew ... about the air defense command post in Latakia and about the complete counter of the airspace over Syria?
Why, in connection with "outright threats" from "colleagues and partners", did they not increase the number of forces and means of air defense fighters to cover the battle formations?
Well, and more .. a bunch and a bunch of questions that can "undermine" the "urya-patriotic mood" .. of the local public

[NEXUS]

Quote: ancient

Only ... "concern", "extreme warning" and everything in the same spirit ...

I don’t think, Sasha, oh I don’t think ...

Quote: ancient

Why, in connection with "outright threats" from "colleagues and partners", did they not increase the number of forces and means of air defense fighters to cover the battle formations?

Damn, Sasha, but I didn’t tell you a month ago that it is NECESSARY to build up a VKS group? And you agreed with me ...
Now our 24th unaccompanied 30s will not fly ... maybe they will pull up the Su-35 ...

[twviewer]

Quote: NEXUS

I suspect that the answer will be ... but what, military, economic, political or all together ... the devil knows.

The Turks defiantly climb into the bottle, so the answer is needed - disarming, here you need to think hard and take your time. Revenge is a cold dish.

[opus]

Quote: _Vladislav_

The plane, if for some time violated the airspace, just accompanied by fighters,

Storyteller
1.Israeli PASSENGER L-049 Constellation 27.07.1955/XNUMX/XNUMX Flight London - Tel Aviv
Shot down by a Bulgarian fighter 58 dead.
Due to a severe thunderstorm, the airliner's navigation equipment failed, the plane deviated from the course and flew into the airspace of Bulgaria. The military took the passenger airliner as an enemy aircraft and lifted the MiG-15 fighter to intercept. Bulgarian aircraft escorted the Israeli side down to the border with Greece, where they shot down, preventing the intruder from leaving the country’s sky.
2. The French liner SE-210 Caravelle III of Air France flying 1611 was shot down by French air defense 11.09.1968/95/XNUMX (XNUMX dead) over the Mediterranean Sea
3.Livian Boeing 727 of Libyan Arab Airlines, flying LN 114 on the route Tripoli - Benghazi - Cairo - Alexandria - Bahrain shot down by the Israeli Air Force (108 dead). At an altitude of 6000 meters, the Libyan Boeing 727 crossed the Suez Canal and ended up on the territory of the Sinai Peninsula heading to the nuclear center of Israel in Dimona. Military radars spotted the object, two F-4E Phantom II Israeli Air Force fighters were lifted into the air.
4.Race New York-Seoul 01.09.1983/747/230 Boeing XNUMX-XNUMX
etc.
Oh yes. it's "passenger" . Then like this:
- April 8, 1950 - the Privatir PB4Y-2 bomber (reg. 59645, 26th US Navy Patrol Squadron) was shot down by Soviet La-11 fighters over the Baltic Sea in the region of Liepaja, Latvia.
-November 6, 1951 - a patrol aircraft P2V-3W "Neptune" (reg. Number 124284, 6th patrol squadron of the US Navy), performing a reconnaissance flight from Atsugi air base, Japan, was shot down by MiG-15 fighters
-May 8, 1954 - 3 American RB-47 Stratojet reconnaissance aircraft flying from Fairdord airbase in Great Britain, flying over Norway, ended up in the USSR airspace over the Kola Peninsula, in the area of ​​Soviet military bases. Soviet MiG-17 fighters were sent to intercept them, which attacked intruder aircraft. Two RB-47 managed to evade the meeting and leave for Norway, and the third RB-47, which was controlled by US Air Force officer H. Austin, fought with Soviet fighters in the airspace over the territory of northern Finland and received severe damage.
July 18–1981, 15 - the Soviet interceptor Su-44TM (pilot Valentin Kulyapin) rammed a CL-XNUMX transport aircraft (LV-JTN, Transportes Aereo Rioplatense airline, Argentina), which made a secret transport flight from Tel Aviv to Tehran and unintentionally invading the airspace of the USSR over Armenia.

etc.

IN GENERAL "test" (there is such infa):
1952 year - in the airspace of the USSR, American planes attacked and shot down the Soviet passenger aircraft Il-14 transporting families of military personnel.

Quote: _Vladislav_

According to international law, any, and in this case, a Russian aircraft - is the territory of the Russian Federation.

?
extraterritoriality does not apply to aircraft, while the aircraft is in airspace, the land of another state. The sun and everything / everything inside fall under jurisdiction of the state in whose airspace is the aircraft.

Article 82 Air Code of the Russian Federation.
This is for civilians, for the military it is even "cooler"

[Ze Kot]

Quote: _Vladislav_

The plane, if for some time violated the airspace, is simply accompanied by fighters, and it is proposed to leave the airspace.

The Turks claim that they warned them 5 times within 10 minutes.

[nadezhiva]

Quote: _Vladislav_

If the Turkish Air Force worked then the plane cannot be Russian.
Turkey does not intend to declare war on the Russian Federation.

The Turks hoped in the morning that it was a MIG-23. Look carefully at the media.

[opus]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Turkey does not intend to declare war on the Russian Federation.

Vladislava "rolls over", apparently from banal illiteracy

In the fall of 1949, an American B-25 aircraft penetrated deep into the territory of the USSR to Kirovograd, where it allegedly threw out three paratroopers. Soviet fighters intercepted and shot down an airplane over the Black Sea. B-25 fell into the territorial waters of the USSR, its crew was picked up by border guards. Nothing is known about the fate of the pilots.

June 27, 1958 - transport aircraft C-118 (US Air Force; it was reported that this was the private plane of the CIA director Alain Dulles) during a flight from Wiesbaden airbase (Germany) to Karachi (Pakistan) inadvertently invaded USSR airspace over Armenia and was hit by fighter MiG-17P (pilots - Svetlichnikov, Zakharov).

...


August 24, 1976 - a pair of F-100 Super Saber fighter-bombers (Turkish Air Force) invaded the airspace of the USSR. One of them was shot down by the Soviet anti-aircraft missile system - the pilot ejected and landed in Turkey.

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[ancient]

Quote: opus

Vladislava "rolls over", apparently from banal illiteracy

No, Anton, he just has a "position" or "platform" like this .... as the Great satirists say ... "WE WILL BE OK!"

[opus]

Quote: ancient

or "platform" is ..

like that? ("platform")

[TVM - 75]

The Turks have long been scratching their hands to shoot around Russia. Constantly looking for a reason. And the reason is they have free Syria, like a Faberge sickle.

[aktanir]

God forbid if our plane, we must believe in the best

[bulvas]

Quote: aktanir

God forbid if our plane, we must believe in the best

The Ministry of Defense confirmed - SU-24, Russian, the Turks shot down from the ground.

Turkey did not violate the border

[Baikonur]

NTV
11:39
Turkish fighter pilots warned pilots of a downed plane about the attack

Lifenews.ru
11:22
Media: Syrian Mig-23 was shot down by Turkish F-16

And the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation Says that the Su-24 was shot down from the ground, just now - "Russia - 24!"
There you go, media!

[skrabplus.ru]

As always, the Americans need to blame

[Turkir]

Yes in the news

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan confirmed that the Turkish military shot down a Russian Su-24 aircraft over Syria. This was reported on Twitter by a Bloomberg correspondent in Turkey Ferjan Yalinkilidzh.

[Butchcassidy]

The Turks generally messed up all the rams ...

[GRAY]

Quote: aktanir

God forbid if our plane, we must believe in the best

Wrecked - this is a fact.
The fact that they shot down is not a fact yet.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: GRAY

The fact that they shot down is not a fact yet.

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan confirmed that the Turkish military shot down a Russian Su-24 aircraft over Syria. This was reported on Twitter by a Bloomberg correspondent in Turkey Ferjan Yalinkilidzh.

.

The General Staff of Turkey confirmed the fact of a strike on a plane that violated Turkish airspace. According to a general staff statement, the downed aircraft was warned of the violation 10 times, after which two Turkish F-16s intervened. ANKARA, November 24. / Corr. TASS Kirill Zharov

[GRAY]

Quote: Ingvar 72

after which two Turkish F-16s intervened.

I don’t read the Turks. Where to look for who said what?
The Ministry of Defense suggests that they shot down from the ground.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: GRAY

The Ministry of Defense suggests that they shot down from the ground.

It is not clear yet, I agree. But the pilots ejected, one was already taken prisoner, there is already a video in the news.

[Butchcassidy]

Why are you surprised? Well these are the Turks. Who, moreover, in the person of Khakan Fidan, threatened to punish Russia for "her actions towards peaceful Turkomans." Despite the fact that Turkey has been using the Turkic-speaking tribes of the region for a long time to advance its goals. The same Turkomans are actively used by Turkey both against the government forces of Syria and against the Syrian Kurds.

[MATROSKIN-53]

What a crash is there ?! They shot down unambiguously. On TV, they showed both the burning plane and the ejected pilots. It is necessary to know the exact time and place where the Russian plane will "crash" in order to record everything on video ... Well, our people again eat it all up and not choke. Spineless with big stars!

[44 World]

Enough for us to fly one at a time, it’s time to switch back to su-30 escort, otherwise the Turks are insolent

[mark2]

And if ours, then what? Will Russia have the strength to respond with dignity?

I don't know how to fix this problem. I hope it will be possible to settle it not by military means. I think fighting the entire "civilized world" now when the army is at the stage of rearmament is not the best option. The standard for us plan of entering World Wars is being repeated. We are not ready and, as always, we do not have enough.
But if there is no other way, then you have to fight. To respond adequately to Turkey means a war with NATO. Even if, as all the same media write, NATO is now difficult to rise. But she will rise sooner or later.
I don’t know ... If all this is true that they write about the power of NATO, then we must hit simultaneously in all directions. At the same time and with all the power available. First, conventional high-precision weapons, for destroying guidance and detection systems, and then non-conventional. Wherever we reach.
There is already a pan or will be gone. Either we win the war with one disarming and then devastating blow, or we risk being drawn into an endless slaughter. We can’t pull out the slaughter. We're few.
But in both cases, we will be damned by all of humanity.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: mark2

There is already a pan or will be gone. Either we win the war with one disarming and then devastating blow, or we risk being drawn into an endless slaughter. We can’t pull out the slaughter. We're few.

So this is nuclear weapons ...

[Scraptor]

Afraid of fallout near Israel will suffer?

Optional ... You can still ODAB.

[Now we are free]

Guys, either Syrian MiG-23 or Su-24, again Syrian or ours. In any case, this is an airplane with a variable sweep wing. According to the pilots, again, if there are two of them, this is Su-24, if one is Mig-23.
It’s too early to say with a 100% guarantee that apart from the plane’s crash itself, we’re waiting for verified information.

All calm and endurance, pah-pah-pah, so that the pilots remain alive. Otherwise, the Turks ...

[Dmitry 2246]

The Turks showed a video with 2 parachutes.
The evacuation team, I hope, is already working.
The border for control, the Turks - "suggestion", ours - health.

[bubalik]

Dmitry 2246 RU  Today, 11: 59 The evacuation team, I hope, is already working.

http://www.interfax.ru/world/481161

[Abakan]

in RUSSIA 24 one current pilot showed

[Sashka]

It started ... Ours, at least SU-24 ... The silhouette, I think, is not in doubt.
Provocation from Turkey, the United States will lose hands. How do we answer ?! Swallow ?! We write to the malfunction ?! Or shelling from the ground, as already written ?! Nefig, now Turkish planes must be brought down in the sky of Syria. Good day to all. Although it seems to me that they dragged us into the war.

[antoXa]

It is necessary to answer the supply of any air defense means to the Kurds, so that Turkish planes begin to fall

[Air Force captain]

Now, only to blame everyone who does not have the right to fly over Syria ... there is no other decent answer

[demos1111]

You can’t start a world war, but the answer must be tough, my opinion is a special charge on the igil near the Turkish border, so that the windows in all of Turkey open, and preferably a wind rose in the right direction.
The West will understand right away, the sanctions have already been introduced, they will not be canceled, it will not be worse. And if you calculate the psychological effect on the barmaley, there will be no price for this explosion. There are no very settlements there, the choice of the place of impact is ours. This will cool the hot heads.

[Andru]

There are a lot of answer options: If you do not take the actual military response methods, then: tourists, gas - Turkish flow, Turkish consumer goods and fruits, direct assistance to the Kurds and so on ...

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Andru

There are a lot of answer options: If you do not take the actual military response methods, then: tourists, gas - Turkish flow, Turkish consumer goods and fruits, direct assistance to the Kurds and so on ...

Answer, Turkey blocks the Bosphorus - your actions?

[antoXa]

Alexander Romanov
I'm afraid that with the closure of the channels you are right - this is the only sane explanation for why the Turks had to take this step.

[a housewife]

At least someone remembers the straits !!! The thought no longer goes beyond fruits and tourists.

[antoXa]

a housewife
Yes, our group in Syria is supplied mainly by sea and the closure of our passage passage will significantly complicate the further operation.

[Scraptor]

And now why not notice any actions of Turkey?

Denmark is also a member of NATO, what will happen if it closes its own?

[Hyppopotut]

The news has just reported that our Su-24 was shot down by a rocket. So what about the F-16 - bragging. Shot down over the territory of Syria, as evidenced by the data of objective control ...

[Taranchello]

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has already announced that the SU-24 and shot down in the course of the Turks for violating the border, S ... KI !!! Rip them up !!! Cover air defense throughout Syria and as soon as someone breaks the border, destroy it immediately !!! Everyone except us flies there illegally !!!

[SibSlavRus]

I think the world is waiting for Russia's reaction. I would very much like to hope that this will not be just a "concern", otherwise they will be considered weak and repeated three times.

The launch site should become uninhabited due to severe radioactive contamination.

There is another option: the reincarnation of Byzantium. There are many who want to give Ottomans.

[ava09]

Quote: Baikonur

Damn, if ours was shot down, then in the light of the latest events and speeches of Putin, Lavrov - this is a declaration of warriors!

So you can only declare after the appearance of verified data how, and most importantly - WHERE is the plane shot down? And then, I think not for you and not for me ...

[Lex69Rus]

some, if it’s really Turks, then a complete break in deep relations, a complete food embargo and a ban on visiting tourists. We will travel to Egypt. Everything will be smoothed out with security and it will be ok. And let the fart go forest!

[nickname_826]

Gazeta.ru rare muck source. I agree that not everything is so clear, but to immediately draw sweeping conclusions is a property of a purely yellow press.

[Scraptor]

will test their Patriot "for strength" ...

[volot-voin]

Quote: Mera Joota

Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

God grant the pilots will return safe and sound. We are waiting for our reply. The ban on the sale of Turkish products in Russia, the closure of the Turkish tourism destination (although it’s a pity, it’s cool and beautiful there) comprehensive assistance from the PKK, including weapons.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: volot-voin

We are waiting for our reply. The ban on the sale of Turkish products in Russia, the closure of the Turkish tourism destination

Stop stop stop.
Suppose
Your military plane was shot down (not by mistake, but intentionally), and your answer is not to buy canned food?
Who will respect you after that.

[antoXa]

_Vladislav_
and what? still buy?
I think a sound proposal, meaning the termination of trade relations.

[_Vladislav_]

Quote: antoXa

and what? still buy?
I think a sound proposal, meaning the termination of trade relations.

In the event of hostilities, trade relations are terminated.

[antoXa]

so by a worthy answer do you mean the start of a war with Turkey? I think this is the most idiotic answer that can follow.

[a housewife]

It is possible to stop this with Turkey. But through the straits is our trade with the whole world. We have sea trade - in the north of Peter, in the south at least - but through the Bosphorus! No wonder Russia has fought so many times for the right to pass through the Turkish Straits!

[Scraptor]

It will be necessary - still fight ...

[volot-voin]

Quote: _Vladislav_

Your military plane was shot down (not by mistake, but intentionally), and your answer is not to buy canned food?

Do you offer the 3rd world? Better to fight with the hands of the PKK, rather than unleash World War III with the country of NATO. They will not lose them, they are already in a constant state of war with Turkey. They will stink that we are helping terrorists, and that’s all.
A trade and tourist embargo will severely undermine the economy. The main thing is not limited to the note of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (although it goes without saying).

[just exp]

what is the ban? this is already a war, in this case at least shoot down all Turkish planes that fly into Syria.

[Prokop]

Quote: just explo

what is the ban? this is already a war, in this case at least shoot down all Turkish planes that fly into Syria.

If the Turks shot down our SU-24 over the territory of Syria, where we are legally located, then shooting down Turkish planes over Syria is not entirely right, because they are outlawed there, you must shoot down wherever they fly legally, that’s all - only a symmetrical answer. Best of all, everywhere, especially over Turkey.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Mera Joota

Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

Erdogan confirmed the fact that our plane was shot down by the Turks. It is not clear whether the pilot is alive or not ... Now the most interesting thing will begin, namely the direct confrontation between Russia and Turkey. Most likely, our pilots will get an introduction to shoot down Turkish planes and not only the airborne forces, but also the naval group too.
And they will also start to "jam" the communications of the Turks and the guidance system. In general, something will happen.
Erdogan very much hopes that Turkey is a NATO member, but this is direct aggression towards us. Let's see what our Defense Ministry will do.

[Nick888]

Why direct aggression if Turkey first shot down?
In my understanding, direct aggression, if our pilots dropped a couple of other bombs on the airfield of the Turkish Air Force for example. Although, of course, I understand that the fact that the Turks were the first to bring down everyone in NATO spit.

[Mitek]

To our love. We are waiting for an answer from GDP.

[REDBLUE]

They reported that our plane

[oblako]

According to the silhouette of the SU-24 ...

[larand]

[quote = Mera Joota] [quote = Scandinavian]
Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They will say who ... [/ quote]

Just the Turks and shot down our SU-24. Turks declared war on us?

[veksha50]

Quote: Mera Joota

They say, who ...

The Turks have already stated that it was they who shot down our Su-24 after supposedly 10 warnings to him ... But something is not glued here ... with warnings, I mean ...

Link: https://news.yandex.ru/yandsearch?cl4url=www.rg.ru/2015/11/24/istrebitel-site.ht
ml & lang = ru & lr = 15

[Hon]

Quote: Mera Joota

Well, then the Turks also fly there.

Turks fly to SU-24?

[Air Force captain]

Quote: Mera Joota

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

https://mobile.twitter.com/ustakiloyunu/status/669092768195694592
link to the photo of the deceased pilot (Turkish tweet) ... with ... ki ... they also put emoticons under the comments ... I will delete ... ki
Earth rest in peace to the dead. An eye for an eye

[Mera joota]

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

[vlad.svargin]

Mera joota (1)
Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

It is a pity, but only now on TV "Russia-24" they confirmed this information: "Su-24 ... from the ground at an altitude of 6 km ... the pilots ejected, the plane fell in the province of Latakia." If only our flyers would be saved ...! really hope ...

[venaya]

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

If at the border, then in this case the impact of air defense from a neighboring country is possible, how to drink.

[Dryuya2]

Quote: venaya

If at the border, then in this case air defense from a neighboring country is possible

Turkish F16s bring down a military aircraft near the Syrian border: military
Reuters
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/24/us-mideast-crisis-syria-turkey-idUSKBN
0TD0IR20151124#otgAebFs3vL4pz8v.97

[vorobey]

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

on the video you can see rather 24 drying .. there are both of us and the Syrians ... according to some statements the Turks shot him down, others fell by himself ... we are waiting for information ..

[MEDVED]

instant - 23. only among Syrians

[WUA 518]

Quote: vorobey

rather 24 drying is visible on the video.

Sanya hi, Su-24. Here from the Internet: Pilots were rescued with a parachute. http://www.haberler.com/suriye-sinirinda-ucak-dustu-1-7903791-haberi/

[Mera joota]

Quote: WUA 518

Hi hi Su-24.

Wrote two catapulted, then 24

[WUA 518]

Here is a photo of the MiG-23 and Su-24. The characteristic shape of the tail and stabilizers of the Su-24.

[adept666]

too high to draw conclusions (in principle, both are similar)

[WUA 518]

Quote: adept666

too high to draw conclusions (in principle, both are similar)

Maybe I won’t insist, but I’m leaning towards the Su-24

[tlauicol]

how will the pilots be pulled out? Go to this day and did not think?

[WUA 518]

Quote: Tlauicol

how will the pilots be pulled out? Go to this day and did not think?

The technique worked out. Search and rescue service on the turntable, and ground search and rescue team.

[tlauicol]

but what, nafig, the technique, when on the ground militants? and you won’t send a helicopter from the Caspian Sea or around Europe - no bases, no refueling, no time! they will kill!

[WUA 518]

Quote: Tlauicol

but what, nafig, the technique, when on the ground militants?

And ???? Turntables are already there, looking for pilots. What is more annoying is that the film crew was at the right time and in the right place.

[vorobey]

Quote: WUA 518

Hi hi

healthy ... rarely appear ... the main thing is to pull out the pilots so that they don’t get where our or the Syrians should not matter ... and the Turks also need to think now before bombing Syria ... I think so ...

[WUA 518]

Quote: vorobey

the main thing is to pull out the pilots so that they don’t get where our shouldn’t

If ours, the turntable with PSS and cover should have been hanging nearby.

[tlauicol]

and if in the east of Syria they get knocked down? what to do? you can’t get a helicopter, and there are plenty of thugs

[NEXUS]

Quote: WUA 518

If ours, the turntable with PSS and cover should have been hanging nearby.

Sasha, hi. If everything is so bad, then I think the grouping of our airborne forces will also be strengthened by the SU-35s most likely with additional electronic warfare systems.
Damn, it’s bad ... it’s clear that this is a diversion, and we are now faced with a very difficult choice ... either to swallow it or to answer. And in either case, nothing good is expected.

[SibSlavRus]

Most likely the pilots will be redeemed. The safest and most reliable option.

[kit-kat]

what does "saved" mean? It is not yet known where they landed. Ejection is only half the battle.

[Russiamoy]

unfortunately one came to the Syrian Turkmens.

[ancient]

Quote: WUA 518

. Here from the Internet: Pilots were rescued with a parachute.

Sasha .. this video

[media=https://mtc.cdn.vine.co/r/videos/846E0D0DF61280854408103911424_4f5209b99b
e.3.0.6715597532672859705.mp4?versionId=X5olC.WEBO7Lh5TXvVWkQuAJ_NYBBGFM]

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: ancient

.this is this video

Serge, give me just a link, not from YouTube

[WUA 518]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Serge, give me just a link, not from YouTube

[twviewer]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Serge, give me just a link, not from YouTube

after equal select to parentheses, and open in a new tab, and everything goes.

[ancient]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

, give me just a link, not from YouTube

I give .. this is the local TV channel, or rather its Twitter ... somewhere around the 15-20th film from the beginning

https://twitter.com/HaberturkTV?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

[WUA 518]

Quote: ancient

Sasha .. this video

I wish you good health. Why did they start flying alone, without cover? Damn how much you can already step on the same rake!

[ancient]

Quote: WUA 518

Why did they start flying alone, without cover? Damn how much you can already step on the same rake!

Sasha .. I'm shocked .. the more control of the airspace by whom should be carried out ... by "observers on the flank"
But for that with what "pomp" "urya .. we already have 300 and 400" .. yes, we have them now ..... so we "did it"

Well, where are the "urya-stoned" with the "Khibiny" .. which "Cookies" drive "??? after all, the whole Aegis .." went blind "and the crew" ran on .. .. and then there is some kind of f-16 and ... "it turns out that he put the" Khibiny "on all?
But what about the "urya-articles" about the new super complexes BKO from Kret on the Su-24M and M2?

[NEXUS]

Quote: ancient

. and here some f-16 and ... "it turns out put on all" Khibiny "?

Sasha, a bomber was knocked down from the ground. Our MO says this. It's not in the Khibiny, but in what kind of a bomber he was doing there without cover?
Now I think the SU-35 will appear in Syria and the number of the 30s will increase.

[Altona]

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

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Syrian aviation also works with us. It is also possible that there could be a Turk.

[MEDVED]

why immediately ours? Pending??? Syriac ...

[Altona]

Quote: MEDVED

why immediately ours? Pending??? Syriac ...

------------------------
A line has already been given in the news feed that "the Russian Su-24 has crashed." It is verbally reported that the Turkish F-16 struck, warning about "violation of Turkish airspace", the pilot landed near the tent camp of the Turkomans (Syrian Turkmens) and was taken prisoner. In general, nothing comforting was reported.
PS It’s already reported that the plane was hit from the ground ...

[just exp]

far not everyone can get to 6km, so here obviously it could not do without provocations.

[adept666]

why immediately ours? Pending??? Syriac ...

Our ... Ministry of Defense has already confirmed the information about the "crash".

[mQn]

In the video su-24, 80 percent sure .....

[makst83]

no way! If the video is real, then the MiG-23 crash (a characteristic narrow fuselage and spread wings) is recorded on it, we don’t use them, the Syrian machine will zanchit!

[SVD]

Yes, it is very similar to the MIG-23, and two pilots could be if they flew on a spark.

[mQn]

flew on a blizzard, do not be stubborn rams, in the video of the Su-24, 2 pilots ejected. Already, the Russian Defense Ministry has confirmed.

[Tuzik]

instant 23, we don’t have them there

[Road runer]

Infa passed that this is a Syrian MIG-23 downed F-16

[Riv]

"Our"? Israeli tunnels?

[ssergn]

SU 24. Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation confirmed.

Funny things:

The Russian Defense Ministry notes that "the entire flight time the plane was exclusively over the territory of Syria."

"This is recorded by objective means of control," the military department emphasized.

Cho, did the Turks decide to play all-in?
People, what do we think?

[lis-ik]

Confirmed, but so far streamlined and "Russia 24".

[Lieutenant colonel]

Indeed, our MO has already confirmed that the fallen su 24 ours.
In the video of the invisibly catapulted pilots, maybe the guys left earlier?

[DenZ]

I won’t say anything for the people, I think for myself that if the Turks and if ours, then the Turks definitely lack Luley apparently.

[Road runer]

In principle, everything went to this. Sooner or later, a similar incident with our VKS was to happen. Too serious situation in Syria now - the interests of many players intersect here. Many here like a bone in the throat. If in the end it turns out that the Turks shot down the situation can develop rapidly. Although I think that because of one plane shot down, big wars do not start. Most likely they will be hushed up, they will be attributed to the pilots' mistake, misunderstanding and so on. It's only the beginning!

[Stiletto]

Quote: ssergn

SU 24. Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation confirmed.

Funny things:

The Russian Defense Ministry notes that "the entire flight time the plane was exclusively over the territory of Syria."

"This is recorded by objective means of control," the military department emphasized.

Cho, did the Turks decide to play all-in?
People, what do we think?

What is there to think? If the plane is exactly ours, and if the Turks completely blocked it, then ...
War...

[urik62]

You’ll go to fight yourself, strategist sofa?

[Lex69Rus]

and what needs to be swallowed? Amerkanskaya 6ka knocks down our plane and we are silent? at least a gap in diplomatic relations, unless of course the Turks apologize tearfully and apologize. And if we swallow them again tomorrow they’ll shoot down, it’s a shame and Russia must answer, and there is something to answer from the food embargo to the end of the tour flow. We’ll travel to Egypt when it’s cracked with security. And if we swallow it is a complete shame how in Afghanistan Pakistan shot down our planes on its territory there were camps with our military and the USSR was silent, Pakistan was humiliated by a superpower !!! if the territory contains prisoners of war of your country, and even in hellish conditions, then this is war. SHAME SHAME! Therefore, the USSR collapsed about us in Afghanistan, wiped our feet!

[Scraptor]

Then, they scammed the SCADs at Pakistani airfields and Mujahideen bases in a childish way. At one time, about 2000 spirits, instructors and their military were immediately covered.

[Stiletto]

Quote: urik62

You’ll go to fight yourself, strategist sofa?

Yes.

[urik62]

Yeah, if you lift your stomach off the couch

[theadenter]

Now the main thing is to save the pilots. And there it will be seen.

[Autopilot]

It seems that if these are Turks, then not without the knowledge "you know who." If there is something else, then you have to wait for more information. Now the media will begin to overtake each other. As they say in well-known circles, it is necessary to filter the market.

[Stiletto]

Quote: Autopilot

It seems that if these are Turks, then not without the knowledge "you know who." If there is something else, then you have to wait for more information. Now the media will begin to overtake each other. As they say in well-known circles, it is necessary to filter the market.

Why filter it? MO confirmed the loss of the SU-24, Erdogan confirmed that he was shot down.

[Tor5]

It was not worth giving such unclear information.

[Lieutenant colonel]

Already our MO confirmed the fact of the loss of Su 24. In the video of the invisibly catapulted pilots.

[atalef]

Quote: Tor5

It was not worth giving such unclear information.

already clearing up

The F-16 fighter of the Turkish Air Force shot down a foreign military aircraft, which invaded the airspace of this country.

This was reported by Reuters with reference to the Turkish media. According to Xinhua, the plane was Russian.



Israeli TV columnist Alon Ben-David also claims that this is a Russian plane.

RIA Novosti writes that a foreign plane crashed near the Syrian-Turkish border.

The Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed that the military plane, shot down on the morning of November 24 at the Turkish-Syrian border, belonged to the Russian Air Force. According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the Su-24 was shot down by anti-aircraft fire. The pilots managed to eject.

According to Turkish media, a plane whose nationality is not reported would have been shot down by a Turkish Air Force F-16 plane after it invaded the country's airspace and ignored warning shots. Helicopters were sent to search for the crew.

The Hurriyet newspaper writes that the incident occurred in the south of Hatay province, and the wreckage fell on the Syrian side of the border, not far from the Turkish city of Yailadagi.

Prime Minister Ahmet Davutolgu received full information about the incident from representatives of the military command. Turkey has notified its NATO allies and intends to file a complaint with the UN.

Turkish media recall: it was in this area that the Russian Air Force repeatedly invaded Turkish airspace. Turkish authorities said they gave the order to bring down violators.

[fif21]

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign our plane

Aircraft Syrian Air Force SU-24 (crew of 2 people) shot down by Turkish F-16. The pilots ejected. The Turks are playing with fire, it's time s-400 to Syria to put so to all flights of the Turkish Air Force over Syria are not legal. The move for Assad.

[ultra]

The Ministry of Defense confirmed that our Su-24.

[Buran]

Already officially announced that SU-24 of the Russian Federation and precisely over the territory of Syria, so if the Turks say that they shot down, then it's time to introduce a no-fly zone on the border with Syria. Our SAM is quite capable. But I think they’ll be hushed up, as always chewing snot about the coalition.

[DenZ]

It is time to start carpet bombing of the border areas with Turkey (after the pilots are pulled out.

[theadenter]

I hope you understand that Turkey is a member of NATO?

[DenZ]

It is time to start carpet bombing of the border areas with Turkey (after the pilots are pulled out.

[Y34Gagarin]

It seems that our plane. And now, gentlemen, it’s necessary to shoot down all those who fly over Syria without permission and coordination with Moscow and Damascus!

[Mityasha]

Unfortunately, we do not have enough strength to bring down everyone, there are so many uninvited guests in the sky ...

[rubidium]

our ...
http://tass.ru/politika/2465907

[Bobxnumx]

If the MiG-23, then the Syrian, if the Su-24, then most likely ours. Still unpleasant.

[rpek32]

this is our say that there was no violation of space.

[Mviktor]

So let’s see if Putin has any eggs, or as always, let him learn from Israel.

[shooter18]

Our Su-24 shot down the Terets Air Force..f-16

[Lt. Air Force stock]

It seems that our generals are not all right with the head once they send the Su-24 unaccompanied.

[opus]

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

Not sure.

One must ask the flyers.
SU-24

MIG-23

---------------------------------
If the Turks, then I hope on this plate will make an adjustmentduly executed

or something like that ("a couple more")

[siberalt]

The Russian Ministry of Defense confirmed that our Su 24 was shot down over the territory of Syria at an altitude of 6 thousand meters from land in mountainous areas, presumably from MANPADS. The pilots ejected.

[Scoun]

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

in the news...

12:02 Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan confirmed that the Turkish military shot down over Syria Russian Su-24 plane. This was reported on Twitter by a Bloomberg correspondent in Turkey Ferjan Yalinkilidzh.

Even if 10 warnings .. but these warnings should not be in Syria

12:10 Let's return to the events on the Syrian-Turkish border. Ankara claims that the Russian bomber received 10 warnings about violating airspace. 5 minutes later, the plane was shot down.

[Bobxnumx]

Confirmed by the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, our plane, it seems that now the cleaning of the territory and the rescue of pilots will begin.

[Alexey-74]

Now let the Turks wash the rope ........

[fyvaprold]

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

If ours, then an independent Turkish Kurdistan - to be! The Ottomans will wash with a bloody yushka, and the Kurds will soon receive "new things". IMHO. Sincerely.
PS: The Turks have already wet the harem pants:

Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan confirmed that the Turkish military shot down a Russian plane over Syria. Turkish PM instructs Foreign Ministry to consult with NATO and UN about these events.

Details: http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2019125.html? Any use of materials is allowed only if there is a hyperlink to REGNUM.

[Russian Moldavian]

Unfortunately, the pilots were detained if the Turks shot down over the territory of Syria and even a hairline fell from them, there should be fierce demand from the Turks

[Max_Bauder]

The Turks are completely overgrown, someone else believes that there will be no third world or that it does not go?

Erdogan has already confirmed that they shot down a Russian Su-24, using an F-16 Turkish air force plane, and the legend has already been prepared that they allegedly violated the border. The Arctic fox is full. The game goes into the hot phase. We are waiting for an answer from Putin and the Ministry of Defense, they will chew snot or a tough answer will arrive.

PySy. I hope the pilots are alive and they will be able to return.

[Al_oriso]

As I understand it, the Turks were angry that our caravans of oil were being bombed and they really needed a pretext. Most likely, our plane flew close to the Turkish border and they shot it down. Catapulted pilots are now being treated unless they have already been eliminated. It will be very hard for us to prove something.

[paxil]

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

Yes, it’s like ours and the Turks knocked him off the ground (like we warned him 10 times). However, the Syrian controls say that the plane did not violate the Turkish border. The provocation in its purest form, now the Turks are waiting for the answer of the ghouls, they are constantly violating the Syrian border.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Kortopolov needs to be asked, so that the pressure of the star-laden general rises and tears pour, it was he, in pursuit of the number of targets hit, that he allowed the planes to fly alone, initially the bombers flew in pairs + provided cover for the Su-30SM.

[twviewer]

turkish version:
turquoise border of Turkey
red su24
gray f16

[twviewer]

one of the pilots +18

such peaceful "Turkmens"

[Max_Bauder]

Quote: twviewer

one of the pilots +18

with ... ka, strike at this place with something like a nuclear power. P ... doraces! Turks with ... ka will answer more. I hope this simply does not leave GDP. We announce a boycott to the creatures. It is necessary to show through all channels who goes to Turkey to relax - he officially finances ISIS!

It is necessary to officially support the Kurds, throw off their arms, let the Turks get their Chechnya.

P.S. Well, what for the Turks? bastards! are these ISIS pilots bombing? Are you scum protecting them ?! who is for evil, evil will receive. It is a pity the USA and NATO are behind Turkey, otherwise Hiroshima would come to the country.

[fregina1]

Bastards say that it’s like ours and it’s kind of shot down !!! If so ...... then I want a worthy reaction from the GDP! It seems that the pilot catapulted, then Thank God!

[Scandinavian]

The Ministry of Defense announced the crash in Syria of the Russian Su-24. Earlier it was reported that an unidentified plane was shot down on the border of Syria and Turkey.

According to Interfax, the Ministry of Defense announced the crash of an aircraft belonging to the Russian Armed Forces. The agency previously reported the detention of one of the pilots.

The Ministry of Defense said that the plane did not violate the Turkish border and was shot down over Syrian territory, RIA Novosti reports.

The plane crashed in the area of ​​the Kyzildag mountains, where Syrian Turkmen live and there are battles between the opposition and the forces of the SAR army. The television channel transmits frames, as the plane, catching fire, sharply decreases at the peak and crashes. Two pilots managed to eject, reports TASS.

Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu is holding an emergency meeting with the leadership of the General Staff in connection with the incident.

The Turkish Air Force shot down a military plane after it violated the country's airspace, the Hurriyet newspaper reported on Tuesday, citing military sources.

[Y34Gagarin]

Quote: Scandinavian

Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu is holding an emergency meeting with the leadership of the General Staff in connection with the incident.

Fussed, s * ki.

[Lieutenant colonel]

First you need to wait for information about the evacuation of our guys from the landing site, God forbid, be successful.

[Russian Moldavian]

Where the pilots catapulted in battle, I really hope to save our falcons

[Kars]

On Ukro media already write that the Turks shot down the plane of the Russian Federation

[vorobey]

Quote: Kars

On Ukro media already write that the Turks shot down the plane of the Russian Federation

Hi Andryukha ... they would have dared to shoot a drone ... the Turks don’t need complications .. the Turkish stream seems to be being discussed again ..

[vorobey]

Well, okay, they attacked ... I agree there is confirmation that ours ... took a chance ...

[Scandinavian]

Media: The fighter crashed in Syria was Russian

A military plane crashed on the border with Turkey, quickly ignited and crashed in the mountains, Turkish media reported.

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A military plane crashed on the border with Turkey, quickly ignited and crashed in the mountains, Turkish media reported.
Photo: Twitter

The military aircraft that crashed in Syria on the border with Turkey was Russian, reports the Haberturk portal. The pilot of a military aircraft managed to catapult, according to media reports.

The crash of a military aircraft occurred in the area of ​​the Turkmen mountains in the province of Latakia.

Eyewitnesses to the disaster said that the fighter quickly ignited and fell in the mountains.

Earlier it was reported that the type of aircraft and its affiliation to any country has not yet been established. The Russian Defense Ministry has not yet commented on reports that the crashed fighter was Russian.


Source: http://ren.tv/novosti/2015-11-24/smi-ruhnuvshiy-v-sirii-istrebitel-byl-rossiyski
m © REN.TV

[Good me]

Quote: Scandinavian

The crash of a military aircraft occurred in the area of ​​the Turkmen mountains in the province of Latakia.

This is most likely in Syria? Means: Knocked out over Turkish territory, "lasted" to his own and there the pilot (pilots) ejected? If, of course, they were able to leave the plane at all ...

Now the main question: What about the pilots, what is their fate? Moreover, it doesn’t matter, ours or the Syrians ...


AND THEN ... Then with the Turks, "grind in terms of" ...


PS Wow ... I just read: "Why aren't ours being shot down in Syria?"

http://warfiles.ru/100908-pochemu-nashih-ne-sbivayut-v-sirii.html

[Denis DV]

Not the fact that they shot down over Turkish, the Turks of Syrians shot down over Syrian territory before.

[Denis DV]

Not the fact that they shot down over Turkish, the Turks of Syrians shot down over Syrian territory before.

[Vita vko]

Quote: Good Me

Means: Knocked out over Turkish territory, "lasted" to his own and there the pilot (pilots) ejected? If, of course, they were able to leave the plane at all ...

According to the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, according to the objective control system, the aircraft was always in Syria and crashed there. If there was a failure in the navigation system, then most likely in the Turkish-American air defense, which works exclusively with reference to GPS.
The Turks have long made it clear that they will shoot down Russian aircraft in the area of ​​the Syrian-Turkish border, it was necessary to more effectively suppress or destroy air defense systems. I hope the GDP draws the right conclusions; you cannot flirt with countries supporting terrorists.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: Vita VKO

The Turks have long made it clear that they will shoot down Russian aircraft in the area of ​​the Syrian-Turkish border, it was necessary to more effectively suppress or destroy air defense systems. I hope the GDP draws the right conclusions; you cannot flirt with countries supporting terrorists.

Yes, what kind of air defense, the Turks said they shot down with F-16. To deliver a preemptive strike to Turkish airfields ?!

[Scraptor]

It’s not quite that proactive, but for the cause ...

[anfil]

38 min back 12: 20

In general, if it is ours or a Syrian plane and it was shot down in Turkish airspace, then the Turks are in their own right, especially since they already warned that they would open fire in case of violation of their air borders. If the plane was ours and was shot down over the territory of Syria, then this is already a completely different calico.

UPD: CNN reports that one pilot was found and detained by the Turkish military, so it will soon be officially announced who owned the aircraft.

UPD: Shot down MiG-23 Syrian Air Force.

Syrian Mig-23 was shot down by Turkish F-16
According to Turkish media, the crew of the downed aircraft was warned that violated the border.
Turkish DNA agency reports that Turkey’s F-16 was shot down by the Syrian Mig-23 fighter. The reason for this allegedly was a violation of Turkish airspace. The crew of the Syrian fighter was warned, so he managed to leave the plane.
link:http://so-l.ru/news/show/vvs_turcii_sbili_neizvestniy_istrebitel_5

[Aroma77]

The silhouette is similar to su24

[Scandinavian]

exactly SU-24

[TSOOBER]

Just read! Syrian Mig-23!

[Good me]

Quote: TSOOBER

just read it! Syrian Mig-23!

And that was hit by Turkish F-16

11: 22 24 November 2015
Media: Syrian Mig-23 was shot down by Turkish F-16

According to Turkish media, the crew of the downed aircraft was warned that violated the border.

+0 (0)0 0 0 XNUMX XNUMX
Turkish DNA agency reports that Turkey’s F-16 was shot down by the Syrian Mig-23 fighter. The reason for this allegedly was a violation of Turkish airspace. The crew of the Syrian fighter was warned, so he managed to leave the same. Earlier, the first video of an airplane crash appeared.

Meanwhile, according to some other Turkish media, the Su-24 was shot down. These aircraft are also in service with the Syrian Air Force. According to preliminary information, two crew members ejected from a falling plane. For the Su-24, this is the standard amount, and for the MiG-23 - only in some modifications.

But also CHECK and CHECK ...

[TSOOBER]

Mig-23 just reported!

[Afinogen]

Quote: Scandinavian

full-time SU-24

Maybe moment 23 Syrian, the profile is the same? Although similar to Su 24.

[ilya_oz]

It also seems like an instant 23.

[Signal]

Yes, it looks like drying. But I want to see the silhouette of the MiG-23 ... The nose for drying islets ..

[Aroma77]

Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu instructed Foreign Minister Feridun Sinirlioglu to hold meetings with representatives of NATO and the UN on the situation on the border with Syria. It is reported by CNN Turk. Earlier it was reported that the Turkish Air Force shot down an unknown military aircraft on the border with Syria.

Because of the Syrian plane, I think there wouldn’t be so much fuss.

[MEDVED]

and for a moment - 23 looks like it, isn't it?

[rubidium]

24. the option with mig23 does not work. At the 21st second, the "top view" is clearly visible.

The silence of the Ministry of Defense is more likely to indicate that our plane was shot down. To refute, if everything is in order, does not take much time.
Nevertheless, we must wait for what they say.

[WYCCTPUJIA]

Between the elevators (tail) and the planes is a narrow fuselage, the SU-24 does not pull.

[Decathlon]

WHO?! If the Turks are crazy, I know where my "soldier" is kept!

[Mobilized]

Quote: Decathlon

WHO?! If the Turks are crazy, I know where my "soldier" is kept!

Getting the Russians out of themselves is a task that the whole West is working on.

[A-Sim]

can a french man? watched the video - the silhouette of the su-24

[complete zero]

Quote: A-Sim

can a french man? watched the video - the silhouette of the su-24

Yes, it’s unlikely that the French France and Turkey are NATO countries, and according to anyone, the aircraft has a definition system (friend or foe)

[Aroma77]

We are waiting for the answer of the Russian Air Force!

[TSOOBER]

They write, they shot down. Judging by the Su-24 video, there is a Syrian one too. And Turkey is so dirty about quiet! They are taking revenge for fuel trucks

[Dimych]

And if this is a Frenchman from Charles?

[ilya_oz]

Not like Etendard or Etendard.

[Road runer]

Let's hope this is not our plane. But something tells us that there is little chance ... The main thing is that the pilot (s) were alive and well.

[Auditor]

The Turks say that they shot down ..... As an intruder of the airspace ..... Have we really decided to hook ours ????

[complete zero]

Quote: Mera Joota

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

The Turks will not shoot at their own ... how to drink our plane

[bubalik]

ANKARA, November 24. The fighter that crashed in Syria was Russian, reports Haberturk.


According to CNN Turk, citing sources in the Turkish security forces, the fighter violated Turkish airspace and was shot down by Turkish air forces.

Pilots of the aircraft were able to catapult.

http://www.rosbalt.ru/main/2015/11/24/1464289.html

[kotev19]

Turkish DNA agency reports that Turkey’s F-16 was shot down by a Syrian Mig-23 fighter. The reason for this was a violation of the airspace of Turkey. The crew of the Syrian fighter was warned, so he managed to leave the plane.

[Abakan]

Smeared already bitches children

[Siberia55]

Turks finally lost fear !!! not only did they burn the logs of these Wahhabis, but also shoot down planes ???

[Engineer]

Aircraft with variable wing geometry, so either Mig-23 Syrian or our Su-24. If ours, then Turkey shot down our plane. After this strike back.

[ilya_oz]

In principle, they have a reason to shoot down a military aircraft in their airspace. Because of this, no one will start a war with one of the largest armies in the world. Let's hope that this is instant-23, and the pilots will survive.

[ultra]

Quote: ilya_oz

In principle, they have a reason to shoot down a military aircraft in their airspace.

In principle, we can bring down all those who violated Syrian airspace.

[Hydrograph]

MIG 23 if not a training MIG 23UB pilot one.

[engineer74]

Quote: ilya_oz

In principle, they have a reason to shoot down a military aircraft in their airspace. Because of this, no one will start a war with one of the largest armies in the world. Let's hope that this is instant-23, and the pilots will survive.

The actions of "one of the largest armies" can be viewed as clear support for international terrorism ...
I understand that this is not human, but still I really want the plane to be someone else's, but not Russian ...

[Watchdog]

I consider such actions a direct declaration of war. If we are silent, our planes will continue to shoot down. But most likely, even if the plane was ours, they will say that it is Syrian. This will be a mistake. Such things should not go unpunished. What did Kerry say there - Russia will see its falling planes in Syria? We will be silent in a rag?!?!

[APS]

And it is better to close the sky over Syria, for coalitions, etc. And shoot down any plane over the territory of Syria.

[flSergius]

Erdogan is not so stupid that with his hands the United States fought with Russia. When the bombing began, he drove for order, then he remembered the estimate for the gas hub and shut up.

[Andrey VOV]

If these specially shot down our plane, then it is necessary to "liquidate" their air defense system near the border in the most various and affordable ways ... well, when flying along their borders, it seems to me that it is imperative that our bombers be accompanied by Sushki, in order for Turkish flyers to have desires there was nothing to do ... they write the pilot ejected ... but as far as I understand, there are two crew members in the SU-24 ...

[Aroma77]

Turkish DNA agency reports that Turkey’s F-16 was shot down by a Syrian Mig-23 fighter. The reason for this was a violation of the airspace of Turkey.
Meanwhile, according to some other Turkish media, the Su-24 was shot down. These aircraft are also in service with the Syrian Air Force.
Completely confused in the testimony!

[Alexander 3]

God forbid that our MSS would competently work and save our pilots.

[dchegrinec]

If this is our plane, cover their air defense system so that Erdogan’s spray will flood ..

[lukke]

the evening ceases to be languid ...
But in principle, this should be expected and be prepared for this. So let's see how much we are ready! Obama embraced not so long ago with Erdogan and the Saudis, found a concensus and the go-ahead went. Do not forget - the Americans tease and train the APU, we supply the S-300 to Iran. Our move now to the Turkish poddyanka ... very interesting ..

[Sober]

Not really! The game went big.

[lukke]

Not really! The game went big

but we’ve never played with us

[Lemon1972]

Maybe the MIG broke, and therefore could not change course :(

[iouris]

Girls "break".

[raiart]

If the Turks shot down our plane, then there is ALL reason to shoot down any NATA aircraft on the territory of Syria.

[reservist]

Quote: raiart

Nato airplanes in Syria

and the French for what?

[Kramen]

the Turks were completely insolent; they shot down planes in the territory of another country. without US cover they would not have done it.

[Engineer]

No, I watched the video many times - not the Mig-23, the wing is shifted back - the Su-24 was shot down!

[avt]

Quote: Engineer

No, I watched the video many times - not the Mig-23, the wing is shifted back - the Su-24 was shot down!

Let’s wait, the Turks are not sick in the head and until recently they clearly distinguished xy from xy - they shot down ours, they warned ours with a note of protest to diplomats. control of the Turks and the otvetka will arrive not stupid in the form of an attack on a NATO country, but quite an alternative one. There are methods, "on Kostya Soprykin" - it will be enough to give an abundance of weapons to the PKK as part of a common fight against spirits. RS Yes. It looks like ours! It seems that the Ministry of Defense confirmed, well ... wait - revenge is a cold dish.

[Engineer]

Quote: WUA 518

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upyrode

[avt]

Quote: Engineer

upyrode

But as ! Well, nothing that the MiG-23 airplane wing has three fixed sweeps (the sweep values ​​are indicated by the wing position indicator):
16 ° - for take-off, landing, flight at the greatest range and duration, attacks of non-high-speed air targets;
45 ° - to perform aerobatics, maneuvering air combat, intercepting air targets and attack ground targets from complex types of maneuvers;
72 ° - for interception of high-speed air targets, flight at low altitudes with maximum instrument speed and supersonic speed at high altitudes. A Su-24 - Swivel wing consoles have 4 fixed sweep angles along the leading edge: 16, 35, 45 and 69 °. So these pictures .... or this "Sharp Falcon" - did you see three degrees of difference in the video? Well, in fact - yes, it is confirmed - our Su -24. What will follow from this? I think it will follow, but not like the guard patriots, but preferably taking into account ALL factors, including the Syrian Express. "The GDP will answer quite alternatively, here on a jump, well, the first thing that comes in the realities of war

Quote: avt

it will be enough to give in excess PKK weapons in the framework of the general struggle against spirits.

Quote: avt

wait - the revenge is a cold dish.

And it should be like according to Kipling - "the White man's step bears the stamp of doom."

[Andrey VOV]

It seems that the truth looks like for a moment 23 .. and there are modifications for two crew members .... I really want to hope that it’s not ours ....

[kill the fascist]

Let's hope that the plane is not the Russian Aerospace Forces.
I would like to get along, but a war without losses, as a rule, happens only in computer shooters.

[Mama_Cholli]

Here the IG has its own Turkish Air Force-Air Force ...
It’s time to end your vacation in Turkey, and by order ...

[lukke]

It is time to end up to rest in Turkey, and in an orderly manner

I’ve also talked about this since the publication of Turkish support for our Czechs, and Turkey has many pain points in addition to tourism: Kurds, exporting to Russia all kinds of goods and more.

[Afinogen]

Quote: Mama_Cholli

It’s time to end your vacation in Turkey, and by order ...

I agree, this will be a tangible blow, there is no better answer

[Fisman]

If the plane flew over the territory of Syria, how could this be Turkish airspace ???

[Stelth1985]

It's just that these * si consider this territory their own. That is the whole answer.

[Ilya_GN]

I'd like to hope that no matter who is shot down, the pilots are alive and not in captivity.

[Mobilized]

The main thing is not to miss the hidden passage that this provocation lacquers.

[guzik007]

All the same, it looks like a SU 24. Oh, what will happen right now ...

[Ze Kot]

And that will be ?

I would like to punish the Turks ... But something is hard to believe ...

[Alexander 3]

I didn’t make out missile launches on the SU24 video, maybe a malfunction of the equipment.

[rotmistr60]

The Turkish Air Force shot down an unknown military plane on the border with Syria after violating its airspace, CNN Turk reported. The pilots of the crashed plane managed to eject.
("Sight")

[Fisman]

In addition, it is not at all surprising who will stand up for the Ishilovites ......

[uhu189]

Our SU-24s seem to fly with hanging tanks, only hope for that. And the profile does not understand - Su-24 or MIG-23 ... Too few details.

[flSergius]

I do not trust Western and NATO media for a long time and irrevocably. They are like the boy who kept shouting "Wolf-wolf!" Until ours officially declare, I don't care what they write there.

[WS]

Mig-23 will be worse

[IAlex]

The first one went, I wonder when to wait for a worried statement by the Russian Foreign Ministry ...

[MEDVED]

firstly, you have a good meal, you run all the time in front .... you’ve probably been waiting for a long time when our plane gets down ... if ours - you will have a storm of positive emotions, akin to ejaculation, and all this at the time of the statement of the worried foreign ministry. I don’t understand you like that.

[IAlex]

And you don’t have to understand, more than once GDP is muzzle in G *, but they’re dipping that in Ukraine, in Syria, in Turkey, and he will continue to bleat ...

I was hoping at least the Foreign Ministry would say something as usual, but even the Foreign Ministry did a puddle of fear, it’s simply impossible to blame Turkey or bring down their plane ...

We are waiting for the next downed planes, for except for delirium and patriotism for internal use will not be done ...

T.ch. Ecstasy further from patriotism and grandeur, while all the leaders at the national expense continue to play on and piss * out of fear for their money, drowning Donbas in blood and turning Syria into ruins ...

[Dr. Lecturer]

Yes. exactly turks

[Bob]

Judging by the video, this is the SU-24, possibly the Syrian Air Force, but rather the Russian one. The Turks have repeatedly warned of retaliation, and kept their promises. I hope this fact of aggression will not remain without a tough and decisive answer. A downed plane is an attempt on the state, said Lavrov. In this case, the attempt is doubly, because the military aircraft. Most concerned about the fate of the pilot. Courage and good luck to him.
The Turks will lose a lot, starting a war with Russia, they will lose the well-fed and contented life that they led for decades in peace. However, R. Erdogan needs a war to satisfy his imperial interests, about which he has repeatedly spoken out. Their history has not taught anything.

[Ivan Ivanovich]

Serious things have gone ...

[75 hammer]

http://www.moscow-post.com/in_world/vvs_turtsii_sbili_neopoznannyj_samolet_na_gr
anitse_s_siriej19091 /
Let's wait for confirmation.

[Midshipman]

This is old information, look at the date.

[Mama_Cholli]

Something a lot of construction workers from Turkey are working in Russia - they are taking bread from the Russian people ...
Isn’t it time for them to sit on the track already?

Pisi: Shooting a plane that does not even carry air-to-air weapons, and is not going to give an answer, is the same as shooting a pistol at an unarmed person who is not going to attack.
Or about the same as the Ukrainians' passenger airbus failed in Donetsk.
The victory of the Turkish "aces" is a big question ...

[Aroma77]

Here I agree with you. How many objects have lost because of these "partners". It's time to send them home, to earn their daily bread!

[Tatyana]

Mama_Cholli (3)

It is time to end up to rest in Turkey, and in an orderly manner

This must be done immediately!

[Fisman]

Ukrainian media are already actively relishing this topic, how much joy the horses have .....

[Mama_Cholli]

Let the idiots rejoice. The main thing is that the pilots are in order. I think now there will be so much of everything in the air to ensure the evacuation of the pilots that the "brave" Turkish aces will fly to some other country, away from sin.

[Hydrograph]

RIA Novosti reported our 24 SU

[Bearded]

RosBolt also reports that the Turks shot down

[Astrahanec]

http://0s.or3ws5dumvzc4y3pnu.cmle.ru/Charles_Lister/status/669067327506354176 там фото. больше похож на су 24

[Irbis77]

You give autonomy for the Kurds in Turkey and as humanitarian aid - a hundred manpads for the Kurdish workers' party !!!!

[sh0o]

Russia 24 reported a statement from our Ministry of Defense - the plane was shot down from the ground - our plane was from an airbase in Latakia.

[vit]

Unfortunately...

The Russian Ministry of Defense reported the crash of a Russian Su-24 aircraft in Syria on Tuesday on Syrian territory.

“Today, on the territory of Syria, presumably as a result of shelling from the ground, a Su-24 aircraft of the Russian air group in the Syrian Arab Republic crashed,” the department told Interfax.

Yes, it’s time to shake off the dust from the military. oh, how I don’t want to! and it is necessary! You can’t forgive this!

[fregina1]

Ministry of Defense: Russian Su-24 shot down on the border with Turkey
24 November 2015, 11: 47
On the territory of Syria, near the Turkish border, a Russian Su-24 plane crashed, presumably as a result of shelling from the ground, the Russian Ministry of Defense reported.

The military department added that, presumably, the pilots managed to eject, RIA Novosti reports.

At the same time, the Ministry of Defense added that the Su-24 was at an altitude of 6 thousand meters and exclusively over the territory of Syria.

The department emphasized that objective means of control recorded that the plane did not violate Turkish airspace, TASS reports.
WE WAIT FOR GDP'S REACTION!

[Monetniy]

The Ministry of Defense confirmed the Russian plane

[Pak_c_TonopoM]

Well, don’t start a war with them. Only their pilots also fly over Syria. And this is where the oivet can be tough. They want to push us out of Syria, otherwise we’re bringing down their fed dogs

[kit-kat]

The war may be worth starting, but Constantinople still needs to be returned. Another thing is that it’s not time yet, we’re not ready. But the Turks must be punished. So that it’s not common practice.

[Rokossovsky]

Constantinople still needs to be returned.

Return it to whom?! He was never ours!

[kit-kat]

What does it have to do with ours and not ours? It's not Turkish, either. And since Russia is considered the successor of Byzantium, the cradle of Orthodoxy must be recaptured from the Muslims. So, tap yourself on the forehead harder.

[Rokossovsky]

And so, how Russia is considered the successor of Byzantium

Is it?!

must be recaptured from the Muslims

But this is an insult to the religious feelings of believers!

So tap yourself on the forehead harder

Initially, I didn’t give you any downvotes, but after such an answer, catch it!
By the way, yes! With this got excited! You can beat off your forehead and the contents! But you shouldn't be afraid. There are big problems with the content!

[kit-kat]

I don't give a damn about feelings. Besides, this is not an insult. Learn the materiel. If I wrote “Fuck all the prophets in the mouth,” it could be regarded as an insult to the poor. But I don’t care about their faith as long as they believe at home.

[Rokossovsky]

Learn materiel

I never received an answer to my question.
Who will we return Constantinople to?

[a housewife]

That’s why our princes kept nailing shields onto their gates! The Byzantines swore all their friendship and constantly plotted meanness against us.

[kirillovleva]

Russia 24 reports about Su 24, referring to the Russian Federation, the flight altitude was 6 km, if the Turks, then there are Daesh training camps on their territory - as an answer. at such a height with MANPADS it is unlikely

[Enot_33]

11:49The Ministry of Defense reported the crash of a Russian air group plane in Syria

[Mountain shooter]

This is the 23rd Mig, we don’t have those. This is not the first time that the Turks have shot down Syrian planes. In our opinion, they would be afraid to shoot.
Eh, Erdogan will finish the game.

[vit]

and the worst thing is

“The plane was at an altitude of 6 thousand meters. The fate of the pilots is being determined. According to preliminary data, the pilots managed to eject. The circumstances surrounding the crash of the Russian plane are also being clarified. The Ministry of Defense notes that during the entire flight the plane was located exclusively over Syrian territory. This was recorded by objective means of control,” RIA Novosti quotes a message from the Russian Ministry of Defense.

Original news RT in Russian:
https://russian.rt.com/article/132247

[avva2012]

Who knows, how can a pilot determine where the air border of a state is? Is there specific equipment on the plane that says “that’s it, let’s turn around,” or is there only hope in the pilot’s head?

[Aroma77]

And there is a statement from the Ministry of Defense. Now we must draw conclusions, followed by all the above actions!
In Syria, on the border with Turkey, a Russian Su-24 fighter crashed, presumably as a result of shelling from the ground. This was reported to the Russian Ministry of Defense, RIA Novosti reports.

[BaLaLaykin]

Ministry of Defense: Russian Su-24 shot down on the border with Turkey
from here: http: //vz.ru/news/2015/11/24/779877.html
3rd world?

[Midshipman]

MOSCOW, November 24 – RIA Novosti. A Russian Su-24 plane crashed in Syria, presumably as a result of shelling from the ground, the Russian Ministry of Defense reports.

“Today, on the territory of Syria, presumably as a result of shelling from the ground, a Su-24 aircraft of the Russian air group in the Syrian Arab Republic crashed,” the military department reports.

“The plane was at an altitude of 6 thousand meters. The fate of the pilots is being clarified. According to preliminary data, the pilots managed to eject. The circumstances of the crash of the Russian plane are also being clarified. The Ministry of Defense notes that the entire time of the flight the plane was located exclusively over the territory of Syria. This was recorded by objective means of control,” - added to the Ministry of Defense.

РИА Новости http://ria.ru/world/20151124/1327398423.html#ixzz3sOi2Q7i7

[Andrey Yuryevich]

It’s good to chatter like women at the market...we’re waiting for the official announcement.

[bubalik]

Moscow. November 24. INTERFAX.RU - One of the pilots of a fighter jet shot down near the border with Turkey was found and detained by local Turkoman forces, the Hurriyet newspaper website reports with reference to the Turkish CNN. The search for the second pilot is underway.

http://www.interfax.ru/world/481161

[fregina1]

Sooner or later, the C 400 must be tested in combat conditions......Everything over Syria must be shot down without options! Strictly with international law, as we like to say!

[question]

The Russian Ministry of Defense reported that a Russian Su-24 crashed in Syria, presumably as a result of ground fire.
Earlier it was reported that a military plane crashed near the Turkish border. Two pilots ejected. At the same time, Turkish media claim that he was shot down by the Turkish Air Force after violating airspace.
Meanwhile, the Russian military department says that the Su-24 did not violate Turkish airspace, which was recorded by objective means of control.

[Gunther]

...In particular, the press secretary of the Ministry of Defense, Major General Konashenkov, said that Russian aircraft operating in Syria have switched to a new method of combat operations - flying on combat missions not as part of groups, but alone. Such a step may be evidence that the capabilities of the Russian aviation group in Syria are not enough to solve the entire scope of combat missions. It should be noted that this is precisely a forced measure, and not a more advanced method of action. After all, flights in groups (at least a couple) are caused by the need to increase the combat stability of aircraft, and in the event of the death of the aircraft, create more favorable conditions for the evacuation of the crew from the conflict zone, especially if this happened over enemy territory.
http://topwar.ru/86392-korotkaya-paluba.html

I would like to believe that the board is not ours, but if it is ours, then they are alive and well.

[Watchdog]

One of the pilots was detained by local Turkmens.

Damn, just don’t need a reaction from the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, the Ministry of Defense should react to this!

[lwxx]

Our Su24 was shot down at an altitude of about 6000m. The Russian Ministry of Defense recognized it. It's a small matter, who? If they are Turks, then things will not be easy for them. If ISIS, then with what?

[question]

Everyone froze, waiting for the GDPR rection.

[Million]

By the way, today is the birthday of Alexander Vasilyevich Suvorov, who gloriously beat up the Turks during his campaigns!

[Gur]

The Turks shot down......

[RUDY]

SU-24 was shot down by the Turks, one pilot was captured by the Turkish military.

[kotev19]

The title of the note should be:
In Syria near the Turkish border was shot down war plane
but not:
In Syria near the Turkish border crashed war plane

[rustyle_nvrsk]

Well, let's see if the "Generalissimo" has balls.

[sisa29]

I think the main thing here is to have brains

[Sly]

8 minutes ago | Events | TASS
Russian Ministry of Defense: a Russian air group plane crashed on Syrian territory

[Lemon1972]

If shot down, it smells like World War III, though Oil is rushing by leaps and bounds.

[Leeder]

Quote: Dmitry 2246

The Turks showed a video with 2 parachutes.
The evacuation team, I hope, is already working.
The border for control, the Turks - "suggestion", ours - health.

Not suggestion, but payment of compensation + moral damage!

[avva2012]

Quote: Fisman

Ukrainian media are already actively relishing this topic, how much joy the horses have .....

God be their judge, they are sick. If there was such a reaction to a passenger plane, then now?! I’m concerned about something else: well, Turkey cannot do this without the permission of the United States. Do we have enough testosterone? Correct answer?

[Valevampo]

Türkiye shot down our plane. Turkmens (Turkomans) pilots. This is bad

[Aleksandr21]

This cannot be forgiven...

[Shark Lover]

If ours and if the Turks shot down, I don’t think that the RF Ministry of Defense, when planning, did not allow such facts as, well, war doesn’t happen in one direction. Perhaps the next step will not be long in coming from us, there must be preparation. There is no war in Hurray, there is no point in setting yourself up to parade like the Germans in Paris. No one has canceled their readiness for provocations either, but if you think about it, in principle the guys fly and fight with terrorists and indirectly with the whole NATO colossus.

[Watchdog]

If they set a goal to devour us, they will devour us even with the Third World War, even without the Third World War. We didn’t fight with Turkey, but they shoot down our planes. What is the answer - another toothless mumble? This is Turkey, it is in NATO... The reaction must be adequate to the actions of the Turks.

[Teplohod]

What's the difference between Syrian and Russian if it's over Syrian territory? The lives of pilots are valuable in any case, but if the fact is that it was the one flying over Syria that was shot down, this is a real threat and challenge. My opinion is that the incident will be hushed up.

[Eastern wind]

Stop bragging online and on TV. It's time to defend your interests in reality! Stop sympathizing - we are under siege - there is only the army and navy... and the Caliber.

[kil 31]

Quote: East Wind

Stop bragging online and on TV. It's time to defend your interests in reality! Stop sympathizing - we are under siege - there is only the army and navy... and the Caliber.

May we not defend our interests. We even forgive everything to Ukraine, but Turkey will continue to smear its bloody snot in its own...blue way. It infuriates me.

[Eastern wind]

That's why I wrote - ENOUGH!

[Minotavrik]

In the Su24 video - 100%. The Mig-23 was nowhere near there.

[kit-kat]

Well? Do you say you like to vacation in Turkey? Are they your friends? Oh well.

[Wolka]

Is it really a provocation of the Turks, I’m more interested in whether the plane was really shot down by another plane or by the Turkish air defense system, or whether the plane crashed as a result of some kind of malfunction, hence the need to dance and save the pilots...

[Irokez]

Quote: Mera Joota

Quote: Scandinavian

Campaign affairs our plane.

Well, then the Turks also fly there. So what to make up. They say, who ...

The Turks don't fly, but seem to shoot them down. If this is the case, then I advise everyone to return their tickets for a vacation in Turkey and quickly get out of there.
An unpleasant incident or provocation, but there will be consequences.

[nekot]

Why does the Ministry of Defense assure that “presumably” from shelling from the ground, while citing a height inaccessible to MANPADS and emphasizing that the plane did not violate Turkish airspace?
At the same time, the Turks are loudly shouting that they shot down, so it will no longer be possible to “quietly agree”, the Turks are deliberately running into trouble. In general, at a minimum, stop cooperation with them, curtail tourism and support the PKK, in addition, it would be nice to take Kurdish formations under the protection of our air defense, it’s time to transfer more fighters to Syria.

[Tornavus]

The Turks stated the following: the plane violated Turkish airspace; shot down not from the ground but by an F-16 of the Turkish Air Force; This is not the first time that Russian military aircraft have violated the border and they have already been warned of the consequences.
Whoever is shaking their keyboards and shouting “we won’t allow it!”, run to register at the military registration and enlistment offices, otherwise all such terrible patriots... are even thinking about handing over their vacation tickets.

[molotov cocktail]

I feel sorry for the Russian pilots, my Russian friends, they ejected

[Signal]

According to life news, our SU-24 was shot down. From the ground. Over Syria... Turks with..and

[Lieutenant colonel]

Now the main thing is that the PSS work quickly and as efficiently as possible.
If the Turks shot down, the question is where was the air cover? From the ground - monkeys do not have such MANPADS, and there is no data on such an altitude from MANPADS (the Ministry of Defense reports that the plane performed the task at an altitude of 6 tm). What did you shoot down with? If from the ground, then this is the work of systems such as “Osa”, “Strela 10”, etc. If the monkey had two units of “Wasps”, if memory serves, one even seemed to have been mastered (Ukri helped?) If the Turks, then this is actually a declaration of war. All flights are coordinated.
Now the main thing is to save the pilots!!!!!!
The bastards are already rejoicing. They forgot how their air fleet was reset!

[Free Cossack]

If the Turks really shot him down, that’s bad. As if it didn’t lead to something more extensive.

[Watchdog]

The Cossack was grinding today.

Quote: Free Cossack

If the Turks really shot him down, that’s bad. As if it didn’t lead to something more extensive.

And at least it would lead?! Is it better to let them strangle you quietly? Or will mattress pads and camel coops become our friends? So this is in another universe, not this one!

[Free Cossack]

You are very militant. It is commendable. But do not forget that Turkey is a member of NATO, and it is written in their charter that if one of the member countries is drawn into a war, all members of the alliance are automatically drawn in. And this, as you understand, is a global war. I’m kind of also sure that “Victory will be ours,” but I wouldn’t want “big blood.” Otherwise, I can yell too...

[extreme]

two questions (if this is true, and the Ministry of Defense stated that the plane was ours, and even that it did not fly into Turkish air):
1) where is our vaunted cover for bombers flying at targets and invincible electronic warfare systems?
2) are we really just going to dry ourselves off?...
The Turks have been eating fish soup for so long that it’s time to actually respond not only orally, and not wait for them to make more shit. And it’s not even about the plane - that’s just supposed to be the last straw, but about the fact that this is an absolutely hostile state that doesn’t even try to hide this fact.
And, before it’s too late, it is necessary to prohibit, as with Egypt, the sale of tour packages to Turkey.

[molotov cocktail]

The Turkish Air Force shot down a military aircraft after it violated the country's airspace,

[Eastern wind]

And the Ukrainians dug the Black Sea... And?