In the fight against "IG" the West can not do without Russia

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The arrogance of Pentagon chief Ash Carter in relation to Russia's possible participation in resolving the Syrian crisis is clearly shown by Washington’s intention to prevent Moscow from strengthening its role in the Middle East. So say some American experts. Other analysts point out that the West cannot cope with IS in Syria if it does not cooperate with Russia.



“Arrogant” statements by US Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter about Russia's desire to return peace to Syria underscore Washington’s intention to reduce Russian influence in the Middle East, says an American political analyst.

Mark Glenn told Iranian TV station Press TVthat the statement of the head of the Pentagon shows: the United States intends to use any opportunities in order to negate all the achievements of Russia in Syria.

According to Glenn, Washington has a much longer playing plan for the Middle East, rather than simply removing Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from power.

The channel reminds that last week Ash Carter said: Russia's military campaign against terrorists "Daesh" (the same as "ISIL") in Syria is "deeply mistaken and doomed to failure."

The head of the Pentagon added to this that Russia should adapt to the marches in the general ranks and choose the strategy in Syria, where in the future Assad is not in power.

Carter is silent that Russia began its campaign against terrorist groups in Syria at the end of September at the request of official Damascus.

Glenn believes that since the middle of the 1960s, Americans have been constantly trying to squeeze out Russians from the Middle East. The United States wants to dominate the region as the sole superpower.

The expert says that the US has already managed to limit Russian influence in the region, convincing Egypt and Jordan to sever relations with Moscow. “And the last stronghold, the last place where the Russians will have no influence, is, of course, Syria,” the political scientist notes.

Glenn considers it “established fact” that the United States played a certain (and not the last) role in the formation of terrorist groups in the region, and also supported them. Their task was to “wreak havoc” in Syria.

In a British newspaper «The Independent» Noah Sin recalls how scared the "shocking events in Paris" of politicians at the international level. Were exposed and serious differences between Russia, China and the West. The war on terror failed, and the reason for this is simple: it (the war) "has never been truly global." It's time to change the strategy!

When Washington declared a “global” war on terror in 2001, no one could have imagined that just two years later, America was isolating itself — with the war in Iraq (2003). Saddam had no weapons mass destruction, but that's not the point. That year there was an "unprecedented rejection of the post-cold war," as well as the "American leadership." Do not believe? But France and Germany, and, more importantly, China and Russia, all of them "refused to follow Washington, which fell into a political minefield," the author believes.

Since then, the American leadership in the world has been only "partial." His "incompleteness" is demonstrated by the so-called coalition against the "IS". Neither Russia nor China is participating in the latter. True, Russia itself is fighting the militants from IG; Noah Xin writes about "Putin's late intervention" in October, undertaken to "save Assad."

Meanwhile, Xi Jinping at the G20 summit in Turkey criticized the “double standards” of the West. Having condemned IG, the Chinese leader said that Western governments should support him in the fight against Uighur militants in China - just like they are fighting against IG.

The problems in Xinjiang are more likely to concern separatism than international terrorism, Noah Sin notes, but IG militants captured Chinese citizens as well. As a result, China is now on the same side of the ideological struggle with the West - and this happens for the first time since the Second World War.

The position of Comrade C represents an opportunity to bring East and West closer, the author of the material believes.

Nothing complicated: China strikes at IG, the West, in response, acknowledges its anti-terrorism measures inside the country (in the Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region), Russia agrees to a political transition in Damascus. Probable outcome: the “global” war on terror will in fact become global and put an end to the IS and its “deadly ideology.”

The parties must remember: such a general strategy "will require compromise." Western governments love to “shy away” from something. This time it will not work: the recent militant attacks in Paris, Beirut and Sinai showed how terrible the terrorists are.

So, let me add, the West, Russia and China can unite (at least temporarily) a common fearful enemy. The war against terrorists must be fought on a global scale. And it is time to stop dividing terrorists into “bad” and “good” and to think in the spirit of “double standards”. Otherwise, to win "IG" will not succeed. Will this be understood in Washington?

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    1. +9
      24 November 2015 06: 32
      And it's time to stop dividing the terrorists into "bad" and "good" and think in the spirit of "double standards." Otherwise, the victory of “IG” will not succeed. Will they understand this in Washington?... No .. they don’t understand ... The influence of Russia in the Middle East is worse than ISIS ....
      1. +1
        24 November 2015 12: 18
        According to news agencies, in particular, TASS, today our Su-24 is shot down. Presumably by the Turks, in Syria, but close to the Turkish border. Turkey is a NATO country. So then trust NATO. There can be no normal alliance, it seems to me.
        1. +1
          24 November 2015 14: 31
          Quote: 123_123
          ... today our Su-24 is shot down. Presumably by the Turks ... Turkey is a NATO country. So then trust NATO. There can be no normal alliance, it seems to me.

          And here is a confirmation of the words:
          Quote: 123_123
          Mark Glenn told Iranian Press TV that a statement by the Pentagon chief shows: The United States intends to use every opportunity to nullify all of Russia's achievements in Syria.

          There will be no mutual understanding and cooperation. The goals of the United States (read NATO) are completely opposite to the goals of Russia. The goals of Turkey, as a separate state, are completely opposite to the goals of Russia and partially coincide and at the moment do not interfere with the goals of the United States. And having brought down our Drying, they clearly indicate their position. There can be no coalition when members of each other are not only ready, but already shoot. Our flyers would get out now. Su..ki Ottoman, damn it.
          1. 0
            24 November 2015 19: 13
            The answer is spoiled. Kirdyk of Turkey. We do not declare jihad, but act.
    2. 0
      24 November 2015 06: 33
      Russia really proves that he is fighting terrorism and that without Russia, nothing will come of it.
      1. 0
        24 November 2015 12: 26
        Well, about the fight against terrorism, I don’t know. Very floating wording. More correct- "To keep the revolution, we need a small victorious war" - VK Pleve. But, such "friends" as in the article, sticking a knife in the back, we definitely do not need. PS The phrase that Plehve said in 1904 does not in any way refer to ISIS and other similar communities. Said ... Well, you know which country.
        1. +1
          24 November 2015 18: 35
          Quote: bandabas
          Well, about the fight against terrorism, I don’t know.


          hi

          It is given - the European territory on which the coup d'etat took place.
          army and organs - destroyed! were much earlier. (In secret - SBU a private commercial shop).
          Hu from terrorism? when do they overthrow the government? when are state agencies stormed? when are organs and members of their families killed? when gangs armed with nonhumans roam the country ...

          So I will answer - terrorism is when you have lost, if you won, then this is a "revolution".
          I hope the dialectic of the thesis does not need to be explained by a spy spy.

          When the army (for a minute - swearing allegiance to the people of its country) x "hits the populated areas (of its country), missiles and shells, then this is not terrorism!?!
          But when people burying their relatives (digging them out from the rubble), they take up arms of this terrorism.

          And at the same time, the next work with the population what see for yourself ...

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r96U1mMIeV4

          Pay attention to the hysterical intonation of the host.
          ictv, 1 + 1, 5 channel, etc. all Ukrainian. TV companies broadcast news "aspirated" and "on edge", this is how terrorism is born on the air and in the brain.

          Day after day, just informational nails are hammered in the terms - Russian occupation, Russian terrorists, Putin is the organizer of ISIS, who is not "FOR" THAT AGENT PUTIN.

          At the same time, I want to note that on the territory of this country there may well be armed gangs that undermine energy networks, and so it is necessary to jam the blocks of nuclear power plants.

          What I want to say in conclusion - do not wake famously, while it is quiet ...
      2. 0
        24 November 2015 18: 34
        The Turks shot down. Where is the adequate answer. Or will we continue to chew snot? No. I do not want war. But, silence is everywhere, at all levels. And I'll tell you. "Our pilots are nice guys. They are not sad. Looking at the world from a height. The Air Force is the air force." Let's figure it out.
        1. 0
          24 November 2015 18: 56
          Quote: bandabas
          The Turks were shot down.


          Kamrad knew in advance - we’re going to fight, losses cannot be avoided.
          (I keep my fists clenched so that our pilots are alive and well and evacuated).
          ... what sorry they won't take me to the PMC of the Syrian "north wind". crying



          Come back flyers ...
    3. +3
      24 November 2015 06: 41
      It may not be enough to fight ISIS, but does the West really want to fight ISIS? That's the question. Previous years have shown that NOT a FACT ...
      1. +1
        24 November 2015 12: 19
        Quote: Black
        It may not be enough to fight ISIS, but does the West really want to fight ISIS? That's the question. Previous years have shown that NOT a FACT ...

        clear that they do not want to fight ISIS, because ISIS is the brainchild of the West
    4. +2
      24 November 2015 06: 42
      Yes, on their desire to belittle our role! The main thing Syria knows, and almost the entire Middle East !!!
    5. 0
      24 November 2015 06: 44
      The United States intends to use every opportunity to nullify all of Russia's achievements in Syria.

      "it's time to stop dividing the terrorists into “bad” and “good” and think in the spirit of “double standards”"- is this possible. So far, we cannot know for sure the true tasks of the West in Syria, but only assume. For example, what does the division of terrorists into" good "and" bad "mean? can be assumed.
    6. +2
      24 November 2015 06: 44
      The West will not be able to cope with the IG in Syria if it does not cooperate with Russia.

      The whole American trouble is that they were not going to cope with the IG. And now, when it has become too obvious, they cannot find a solution. how to get out of this rotten situation without losing face. Therefore, there is so much stink on Russia's actions in Syria.
    7. +5
      24 November 2015 06: 45
      The United States wants to dominate the region as the only superpower.

      Already someone, and πndosy will not refuse from free oil. And IG is their ally in this matter.
    8. +2
      24 November 2015 06: 52
      NATO and the States, and indeed the entire Western world, found themselves in a very difficult situation: they understand that without them Russia will sort it out in Syria, but you need to keep a mine in case of a bad game, so they yapping. But they obviously do not want to leave the trough. is the seizure of oil wells and the supply of cheap oil to world markets. From the same "feeding trough" the terrorists were allowed to "feed" themselves .. And all these terrorist organizations were created by creators from the special services of these countries. One of the main tasks of which is to undermine the economic power of Russia ....
    9. +2
      24 November 2015 06: 53
      Otherwise, the victory of “IG” will not succeed. Will they understand this in Washington?


      But does WASHINGTON need to get rid of its tool to overthrow ASADA .... the answer is obvious.
    10. 0
      24 November 2015 06: 54
      Just the informational noise of the figures practically does not affect the development of the situation.
    11. 0
      24 November 2015 06: 54
      The main ISIS of Russia in this war. Our specialists are cutting down the roots of Igil in our country. They have already reached France. Who has not yet understood that it is necessary to fight ahead of schedule.
    12. +1
      24 November 2015 07: 04
      Is the West fighting ISIS? Unless it pretends.
      As for France, a couple of days ago there was information that they bombed objects in Syria that did not need to be bombed - the French could worsen the situation with their intervention.
      I do not believe the West at all.
    13. 0
      24 November 2015 07: 22
      the moment of truth in all Western politics, everything is simpler, the law of the jungle - each for itself, because if you once showed weakness, you will be collectively devoured by those who are potentially weaker than you alone ...
    14. +1
      24 November 2015 07: 25
      Absolutely ahameli: http: //lenta.ru/news/2015/11/23/pbs/
      The American television channel issued shots of strikes of the Russian Air Force for the actions of US aviation


      The American television channel PBS showed on the air footage of the destruction of the column of fuel trucks of the Islamic State (IS) by Russian aviation and issued them as actions by the US Air Force. This was reported by the Iranian television channel Press TV.

      According to the channel, PBS showed the audience a program that talked about the fight against the terrorist group and the Pentagon’s plans to undermine the economic viability of the militants. An off-screen voice explains: “For the first time, American forces attacked a gas tanker,” while footage from a Russian Su-34 is shown on the screen. The beginning of the Russian video can be seen at around 2:30.


      On November 18, the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Russia was told that the country's Military Space Forces (VKS) undermined 500 IS tankers and released a video that later appeared on the air of the American television channel. On November 16, the US military reported on the destruction of 116 fuel trucks, but did not provide video evidence.
    15. 0
      24 November 2015 07: 29
      The United States intends to use every opportunity to nullify all of Russia's achievements in Syria.


      Dogs in the hay.
      But the days have passed when the merikatos were listened in a bent pose.
      Now it’s the turn in this position, or even lower, behind the mattress. fellow laughing
    16. 0
      24 November 2015 07: 35
      We shouldn't rub our ears about the struggle between the USA and ISIS, which is their own weapon in the fight against the whole world, for supremacy in world politics and finance. It has long been announced that ISIS is a collective "Führer". After all, Adolf Aloizovich was also first trained in the capture of Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland and then sent against the USSR. The capture of Geyropa by the "refugees" is being successfully carried out. Next in line is Russia.
    17. 0
      24 November 2015 08: 04
      The funny thing is, when the US media showed the destruction of ISIS oil reserves by the Russian Aerospace Forces, presenting it as a success for the US Air Force? And what will the ISIS "partners" say?
    18. 0
      24 November 2015 08: 19
      Quote: The same Lech
      Otherwise, the victory of “IG” will not succeed. Will they understand this in Washington?


      But does WASHINGTON need to get rid of its tool to overthrow ASADA .... the answer is obvious.

      You, Alexei, have posed the absolutely correct question. DO I NEED?
      And in the end, it’s not Assad or what leader. The Americans even tried in Afghanistan to use such an instrument to reduce the influence of their adversary - the USSR. And, unfortunately, they didn’t understand that the creation of such - name the organizations you like - opposition, terrorist, or whatever, of course, is a profitable business. Heat can be raked by someone else’s hands without directly getting involved in military confrontation. Or to destabilize the situation in a particular region, solving their geopolitical goals.

      But they haven't learned their lesson. That while there is (or was) an enemy (the same USSR), such organizations can still be somehow controlled. And then - then, alas, no. This happened with the Taliban, which gradually transformed into the same Al-Qaeda, and this is now happening with ISIS. Having created (directly or indirectly) this structure in order to achieve their geopolitical goals, they are now unable to control it ... The project failed, because the "tool" seems to have gotten out of hand.
      And the situation was paradoxical for the USA. And they can’t control, and can’t destroy it. Not from a military point of view, everything is very simple here. It would have been necessary - they would have rolled it out, namely they cannot destroy it from a political point of view, most likely there are quite serious forces inside that do not allow it to be done.
      It remains only to transfer the arrows to someone else. To Russia, in particular
    19. +1
      24 November 2015 09: 32
      Meanwhile, the T-90A Rota is already at the bridgehead in South Aleppo, where the second stage of a major offensive is being prepared (though it is far from clear, this is the main secret, so to speak).

      C twitter.com/syria_protector - a government journalist (for Assad) who just visited there, covering the operational pause.
      1. 0
        24 November 2015 10: 06
        It seems that these cars have been working for a long time, judging by the worn-out appearance of the sides.
    20. 0
      24 November 2015 10: 03
      While the cauldron of conflict and war is boiling in the world, the dollar is alive. On that stood, stands and will stand Anglo-Saxony!
    21. 0
      24 November 2015 10: 17
      So, let's add on our own, The West, Russia and China can be united (at least temporarily) by a common terrible enemy. The war on terrorists must be fought at the global level. And it's time to stop dividing the terrorists into "bad" and "good" and think in the spirit of "double standards." Otherwise, the victory of “IG” will not succeed.

      In short, Washington’s plans to unleash a world war come true, even if it is against terrorism, and Washington itself somehow strangely withdraws from this war, or rather, makes its participation in it more secretive, fueling the very terrorism with finances and weapons.
    22. +1
      24 November 2015 10: 24
      I fully support Russia's policy in the fight against ISIS and completely reject, like many of our citizens, the internal, essentially destructive, socio-economic policy of the current liberal government of the Russian Federation. Two directly opposite vectors. The country's leadership, first of all, should take care of the welfare of its state and the moral and material well-being of its entire people, and only based on these premises, build its firm and decisive foreign policy.
    23. -1
      24 November 2015 11: 02
      All means are good for dragging ErEfiya into the conflict in the Middle East. For this, flattery like: "Ah! We can't do without you. We are so weak, and you are so strong. Well, you can't do it!" - is also good for achieving goals. Especially considering the mentality of the Russians, whoever calls for help cannot lie, so help is imperative. It is this whining and flattery that could be the most effective way to drag Russia into a full-scale conflict.
    24. 0
      24 November 2015 11: 27
      And the United States is not fighting IS, they created them, cherish and cherish.
    25. +1
      24 November 2015 12: 30
      Turks shot down the Russian SU-24, allegedly due to airspace violations.
      http://www.interfax.ru/world/481166

      Hooray Utriots, how did you scream there when Putin began to try to wrap up the gas with the Turks, that the Turks are our best friends? Turkey is a member of NATO, like the BE West.
      1. 0
        24 November 2015 22: 09
        They will answer for everything, with interest.
    26. 0
      24 November 2015 12: 32
      We must stop flirting with the countries of Western Europe, NATO and the United States. Only then will it be clear to the people, to all of us, why we are in Syria. Who is the enemy, who is the partner, who looks at everything that is happening from the side. Because without Syria they will attack us with all their might. The Turks seem to have already attacked. As always, the British played their role of arsonists in this, and God invented the Turks for this! And with the English clown GDP bowed at the summit? Maybe enough already winning trials? Or is the life of Russian citizens really worthless?
      1. +2
        24 November 2015 12: 41
        Quote: 1536
        Or is the life of Russian citizens really worthless?

        And you still do not understand it?
        Billions of dollars of debts are written off to anyone, but thousands from their pennies of debt will wind up; collapse the ruble because they screwed up with the economy; lower salaries, are going to raise the retirement age, raise prices, are going to introduce new requisitions because they again screwed up with the economy, are frantically looking for new markets for gas and oil and even started dumping oil, instead of developing their industry. Is there really any hope that the lives of Russian citizens are worth something? Or maybe all this is done from great love for the people?
    27. +1
      24 November 2015 12: 56
      Is it true that Turkish air defense shot down a Russian plane and a pilot in the hands of militants?
      1. 0
        24 November 2015 12: 59
        Quote: Kaiten
        Is it true that Turkish air defense shot down a Russian plane and a pilot in the hands of militants?

        Yes true.
        1. +1
          24 November 2015 13: 05
          and shot down an air defense or F-16? I did not understand until the end ...
          interesting, in the days of the USSR would the Turks dare to do this?
          By the way, let the Greeks mean how to deal with violators of the airspace.
        2. +1
          24 November 2015 15: 04
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Yes its true

          Do you think the war will be?
          1. 0
            24 November 2015 15: 05
            Quote: Kaiten
            Do you think the war will be?

            How to stop her?
            1. 0
              24 November 2015 15: 10
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Quote: Kaiten
              Do you think the war will be?

              How to stop her?


              Only if Putin swallows that his plane was shot down. But this is unlikely. On the Turkish side there is no one to conduct dialogue with at all. Their leader is just a sick man. This is a war not only with Turkey, but with all of NATO. The situation of .op.
          2. 0
            24 November 2015 23: 33
            The war is already in progress, but so far not all funds have been used.
    28. +1
      24 November 2015 13: 57
      Yeah! If he also wanted to fight him
    29. +1
      24 November 2015 14: 08
      In the fight against "IG" the West can not do without Russia
      Some kind of absurdity. They were going to fight with the IG?
      The Turks shot down the Su-24 RF VKS. Here it is, the struggle.
    30. +1
      24 November 2015 14: 22
      From now on, it's time to stop talking about a coalition against ISIS. We have one coalition - a coalition against the Russian Federation. But entering into it is too late.
      1. 0
        24 November 2015 18: 16
        I think Lavrov and Putin understand this.
    31. 0
      24 November 2015 15: 18
      And the portal sleeps on the latest news from Turkey
    32. 0
      24 November 2015 16: 11
      The arrogance of Pentagon chief Ash Carter regarding Russia's possible involvement in the resolution of the Syrian crisis clearly shows Washington’s intention to prevent Moscow from strengthening its role in the Middle East
      Not without their participation, and shot down a Russian Air Force plane. But, something tells me that "them" will cost dearly. Expensive to all. Or Putin will not be Putin. And personally I will support him.
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    34. 0
      24 November 2015 18: 00
      maybe I’m writing in the wrong branch, but there is a shallow revenge on the Turks for the smuggled oil and slaves smuggled. The successes of Russia and thermobaric ammunition to help her!
      1. 0
        24 November 2015 19: 33
        Quote: dedBoroded
        there is a shallow revenge of the Turks

        This is not petty revenge. This is real casus belli.
        Do you understand that a Russian pilot in captivity can be burned alive as well as a Jordanian one? It must be taken out of captivity by any means.
    35. 0
      24 November 2015 18: 15
      As it were, now, if the West really can’t do it, you will first have to roughly punish your unbalanced comrade, scumbag, so to speak, restrain yourself. And not just for show, but carve into the square, in public. Then, perhaps, Russia will not refuse to help her.
    36. +1
      24 November 2015 18: 19
      Quote: dedBoroded
      maybe I’m writing in the wrong branch, but there is a shallow revenge on the Turks for the smuggled oil and slaves smuggled. The successes of Russia and thermobaric ammunition to help her!

      Endrogan has always been famous for trying to turn a secular Muslim country into a fundamental Muslim country. I do not think that the Turkish military will tolerate such a president for long, despite the fact that he "thinned out" the top military leadership of Turkey.

      Only a ban on travel to Turkey will result in Turkey losing about 4-6 billion dollars. All together can put an end to Endrogan.
      Well, if you had your own business with ISIS, you would conduct it slowly and not rock the boat, no. I wanted to become famous ... I became famous
    37. 0
      24 November 2015 18: 37
      Other analysts point out that the West will not be able to cope with the IG in Syria if it does not cooperate with Russia.

      Yes, the West is not fighting IS, if it is fighting, then only in words, for the Western
      the public. But in reality, the West fostered ISIS, as Hitler once did, for his
      goals and supports it, both secretly and explicitly.
    38. 0
      24 November 2015 21: 46
      Yes, the West does not need the Russian Federation to fight the barmaley! The West and the United States have their own long-playing strategy in the Middle East. They can only hypocritically change tactics. Iran is a bone in their throat, and the strategy is full control over the production and distribution of Middle East energy resources. these will never give up under any conditions. Old Marx's "Capital" comes to mind.
    39. 0
      24 November 2015 22: 06
      Turkish stream ...
    40. 0
      24 November 2015 22: 22
      Can't handle IS without Russia ?! So they created HIM for this! So that Russia "copes" with him!
    41. 0
      24 November 2015 22: 28
      Quote: Old26
      Quote: dedBoroded
      maybe I’m writing in the wrong branch, but there is a shallow revenge on the Turks for the smuggled oil and slaves smuggled. The successes of Russia and thermobaric ammunition to help her!

      Endrogan has always been famous for trying to turn a secular Muslim country into a fundamental Muslim country. I do not think that the Turkish military will tolerate such a president for long, despite the fact that he "thinned out" the top military leadership of Turkey.

      Only a ban on travel to Turkey will result in Turkey losing about 4-6 billion dollars. All together can put an end to Endrogan.
      Well, if you had your own business with ISIS, you would conduct it slowly and not rock the boat, no. I wanted to become famous ... I became famous

      Russian business in Turkey in this case could lose much more ... about 9-10 billion.
    42. 0
      25 November 2015 01: 49
      The rulers of the West do not need the fight against terrorism as such. They remember her, or rather, they begin to tear off their asses from their seats and rush about when shots are heard in the capitals of Europe. This is just a reaction to the violation of the usual, peaceful, tolerant lifestyle of a European. Consumer.
      Regional countries, terrorists do not interfere. It is just a tool for solving local problems.
      I think it would be a fatal mistake to even think about the help that such partners can provide Russia. We have other goals that are fundamentally different from goals 99 and 9 in the period of participants. To rely solely on yourself, soberly correlating your goals with our OWNERSHIP capabilities ..

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