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The signing of the contract for the construction of new patrol ships postponed

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The signing of a contract for the construction of two regular ships of the 22100 project for the FSB Border Service has been postponed by about 2, the blog reports bmpd with reference to the general director of the Zelenodolsk plant them. Gorky Renata Mistakhova.




“The Zelenodolsk plant during the construction of large border guard ships (PSCR) of the 22100 project faces two main problems - import substitution and lack of funding. In connection with the latter, the start of construction of two more ships of this series was postponed. It is planned that the contract for the construction of the second batch will be signed in 2017-2018 year. The ships currently under construction are practically the leading ones too, since Russian equipment is fully installed on them. This will cause all tests to be repeated. ”- said Mistahov.

The blogger reminds that the head ship of the 22100 "Polar Star" project was launched in May of this year and is now undergoing sea trials in Kronstadt.

In April, the 2015-th FSB entered into a contract for the construction of the 2-th and 3-th ships. In total, the Border Guard is planning to order the 5 PCR. The cost of one ship - 8,663772636 billion rubles.
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Erne / forums.airbase.ru
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  1. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 23 November 2015 13: 19 New
    +1
    Apparently outdated information. MTU is now being replaced on all ships under construction.
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 23 November 2015 13: 21 New
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      faced with two main problems - import substitution and lack of funding.
      Well, they’ve come to the bad news of the military industrial complex! And lately only URA - MIC! Not calculated strength.
      It is sad. crying
      all tests will have to be repeated
      That means more expenses.
    2. venaya
      venaya 23 November 2015 13: 21 New
      +2
      If postponed, then perhaps priorities are directed to other, more relevant projects.
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 23 November 2015 13: 23 New
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        Quote: venaya
        If postponed, then perhaps priorities are directed to other, more relevant projects.

        Probably to increase the salary of the deputies and officials
        1. Homo
          Homo 23 November 2015 13: 46 New
          -6
          Quote: 79807420129
          Probably to increase the salary of the deputies and officials

          Are there any smarter thoughts?
          1. Watchdog
            Watchdog 23 November 2015 14: 11 New
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            But no. Our servants of the people will soon begin to fall from hunger, the poor. yes In a difficult year, it would be possible to simplify the process of reviewing laws. All the same, we have a fictitious legislative branch of pure water. So is it not better to disperse the Legislative Assembly, and let their salary be spent on military needs? So no - no smarter thoughts. what
            1. Homo
              Homo 24 November 2015 18: 54 New
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              Quote: Watchdog
              But no. Our servants of the people will soon begin to fall from hunger, the poor. yes In a difficult year, it would be possible to simplify the process of reviewing laws. Anyway, we have a fictitious legislative branch of pure water. So is it not better to disperse the Legislative Assembly, and let their salary be spent on military needs? So no - no smarter thoughts. what

              And the servants of the people seem to be chosen by you! Do not like the flag in your hands, raise society, withdraw, nominate others. Or, as always, in language, is it easier to expose from the sofa?
          2. ANTI.KORR.
            ANTI.KORR. 23 November 2015 17: 24 New
            +5
            The article clearly states
            Quote: Article
            faced with two main problems - import substitution and lack of funding.

            At the same time, bureaucrats of various kinds stupidly find valuables worth billions of rubles in safes and desks, and that’s just what they didn’t manage to take out over the hill, there are bloody clashes between comrades and afflicted officials (Krasnogorsk), former thieves ministers live in "modest" houses in France and Switzerland, children of civil servants study and live in Western countries ...
            And the government, meanwhile, allocates huge funds to maintain the banking system, and in fact to currency speculation.
            The outflow of capital from the country is growing at an unprecedented pace, and we are being told about the lack of funding for several watchdogs !!!
            And for a year and a half we have been told from a duroscope tales about import substitution ..
            What kind of aircraft carriers and generally ships of the 1st rag can we talk about, if hammers, nails and trench tools are already making tea for us with pleasure?
            1. Vladimir 23rus
              Vladimir 23rus 24 November 2015 12: 43 New
              +1
              What kind of aircraft carriers and generally ships of the 1st rag can we talk about, if hammers, nails and trench tools are already making tea for us with pleasure?
              For twenty years now we have been buying tools and machines in China and Europe (hi conversion). So no wonder.
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        2. anfil
          anfil 23 November 2015 15: 02 New
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          Quote: 79807420129
          Quote: venaya
          If postponed, then perhaps priorities are directed to other, more relevant projects.

          Probably to increase the salary of the deputies and officials


          We didn’t try to calculate how much the precision weapons used to protect our homeland in Syria cost, I think we won’t invoice them, because. it is more in our interests.
          And we will build guard ships anyway, but a little later.
      2. Bombardier
        Bombardier 23 November 2015 13: 31 New
        +4
        The cost of one ship is 8,663772636 billion rubles


        Pennies are not indicated .... winked Usually these numbers are rounded.
      3. avt
        avt 23 November 2015 14: 11 New
        +5
        Quote: venaya
        If postponed, then perhaps priorities are directed to other, more relevant projects.

        They will tolerate the FSB officers without their own “border cruisers” - they’ll cut it easier on “pearls and gems”. Much more relevant now is Buyan M for the Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Fleet, Chinese MTU diesels will go for them and for something larger than the 20380 type.
    3. kil 31
      kil 31 23 November 2015 13: 23 New
      0
      Guys do not put into compote. Contracts are concluded at the beginning of the year, wait a couple of months and the order will be.
  2. Wedmak
    Wedmak 23 November 2015 13: 23 New
    0
    And why is it postponed? If you are replacing equipment, on the contrary, you need to build a couple according to the amended design and conduct tests.
    1. Dangerous
      Dangerous 23 November 2015 13: 29 New
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      It is written that the main reason for the lack of funding
  3. veksha50
    veksha50 23 November 2015 13: 24 New
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    "" The Zelenodolsk plant during the construction of large border patrol ships (PSKR) of project 22100 faces two main problems - import substitution and lack of funding "....

    Hmm ... I'm afraid that so far - only flowers ...

    How many times I think about the fact that, no matter how cynical it sounds, but in the Union, defense, education, medicine and science were funded by the production and sale of products from the tobacco and distillery industries ...

    Somewhere in the years 1974-1975, the cost of producing drinking alcohol from wheat grains was worth - I don’t remember exactly - either 3,5 kopecks, or 5,5 kopecks per liter ... And this is - at the cost of half a liter of vodka in a store in those time 3,62 - 4,12 ... The difference is huge, and all this difference went to the state budget ... And enough for the purposes that I indicated above ...

    They gave it all to private hands ... What difference does it make people use vodka and tobacco, despite health warnings (I myself am a vivid example) ... So at least the money would go to the state treasury ...

    And then - to give such a profitable industry to private ownership - they gave it away, and now they are afraid to take it away ...

    To introduce a state monopoly on tobacco and alcoholic beverages is already a necessity !!!
    1. ANTI.KORR.
      ANTI.KORR. 23 November 2015 16: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: veksha50
      To introduce a state monopoly on tobacco and alcoholic beverages is already a necessity !!!

      No way!
      As the president says publicly at all summits and forums, there will be no revisions to privatization and we will not turn off the liberal market rate!

      And as for the financing: it’s not even hiding that funds comparable to the country's budget are being stolen in the Russian Federation, and then the budget itself is also being stolen.
      But embezzlers are not punished here, because "we have not the 37th" year "...
      1. veksha50
        veksha50 23 November 2015 21: 29 New
        0
        Quote: ANTI.KORR.
        As the president says publicly at all summits and forums, there will be no privatization reviews



        If there was political will, it would be possible to open state-owned factories without deprivatization and drive the monopoly for the first year with a price lower than private factories ... A high-quality monopoly so that people do not poison ... BUT !!! Under the strictest control, so that not a drop goes to the side (ehhhh ... dreams ...) ... and the private business either dies or accepts the rules of the game ...

        But the struggle here will be terrible and fierce, although the end justifies the means ...
  4. Boa kaa
    Boa kaa 23 November 2015 13: 24 New
    +4
    - Are sanctions beginning to affect?
    -Well no! Dol ... 3m chiefs who scattered the entire production of shipboard power plants in the Union republics! And there was some justification: to strengthen the working class of the republics!
    Strengthened! Now constipation itself, however. am
    1. Homo
      Homo 23 November 2015 13: 50 New
      0
      Quote: BoA KAA
      -Well no! Dol ... 3m chiefs who scattered the entire production of shipboard power plants in the Union republics! And there was some justification: to strengthen the working class of the republics!

      And you will not have the desire to send to ... or to ... your wife (with whom we lived 40-50 years) for the fact that she will give birth to your daughter, and the daughter will give birth to your granddaughter who will become a prostitute? An example is ugly, but it can make you think before you write something!
      1. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 23 November 2015 16: 43 New
        +1
        Not a correct comparison Gennady. We, as usual, wishful thinking. Having handed (Alexander) correctly noticed, they helped everyone, only to their detriment. Who knows what ended up with the epic with Ukrainian turbines? Here you have 15 more lard.
      2. Boa kaa
        Boa kaa 23 November 2015 22: 10 New
        +1
        Quote: Homo
        And you will not have the desire to send to ... or ... your wife (with whom 40-50 lived)
        Gene, what, the problem? Then - Divorce and do not suffer laughing
        Quote: Homo
        for the fact that she will give birth to a daughter for you, and the daughter will give birth to you a granddaughter who will become a prostitute?
        Gene, are there only women in the family? Yeah, you have an unenviable fate: there’s no one to continue the race even ... Sadness, however! recourse
        Quote: Homo
        An ugly example,
        Not the right word: HE IS LOOKING and is a personal attack ... of a nearby person who does not know the economic geography of the Union! (Goofy, golem!) am
        Quote: Homo
        make you think before you write something!

        Well, my dear, let's think (unless, of course, you have something to do!) I say:
        The Russian Federation (all the time the Union existed) was a donor to the poor, mid-century (Asian) Asian, and Caucasian republics. But even the Baltic ones (litas, labuses, ests) cherished at the highest level, as in an expensive restaurant, while interrupting with barley. About Ukraine and Belarus-I am silent: one people. True * bastards * were bitten by a "rabid" dog of Amer’s democracy, and they became infected with a serious illness. Hopefully, over time it will be cured.
        And here is a concrete confirmation of what I said above:
        * For many years, the budgets of ALL Union republics, except for RUSSIA, were reduced with the help of subsidies from the state budget.
        In the 30 and 40 years, more than 60% of the expenses of the Union republics were covered through the country through subsidies. In the years of the first five-year plans, the growth of capital investments in Central Asia was 5-6 times greater than in Russia. For many years, the population of the republics of Central Asia, Transcaucasia, and the autonomies of the RSFSR were partially or completely exempted from agricultural taxes and state taxes. The economy of national peoples to a large extent also rose due to the purchase price policy. For example, in Central Asia and the Caucasus, the purchase prices for cotton, rice, citrus fruits significantly exceeded the cost of production, and the main agricultural products of the European part of the USSR (flax, potatoes, grain, meat) were purchased at UNLIMITED prices. And after the war, the Russian people were the object of the most predatory and cynical exploitation in favor of the "fraternal republics." The budget of the USSR consisted of 75% of the allocations from the RSFSR, the remaining 25% was given by Ukraine, Belarus and, in part, Kazakhstan (where more than half of the population was Russian). Other "republics" were dating from the center. Simply put, the money that was squeezed out of Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians went to the “economic upsurge” of the Caucasus, Central Asia and the Baltic states. "So who has become a prostitute in our country? (Https://www.stihi.ru/2005 / 09 / 12-99)
        I’m not a chauvinist, but it’s a shame when any ungrateful creatures spit in an open soul! am
    2. ANTI.KORR.
      ANTI.KORR. 23 November 2015 16: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: BoA KAA
      displaced all the production of shipborne EU in the Union republics! And there was some justification: to strengthen the working class of the republics!

      Then it was a single state!
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  6. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 23 November 2015 13: 27 New
    0
    Hurry hare's whole ass in shit! The rush to build ships of this type is useless.
  7. Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 23 November 2015 13: 48 New
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    I didn’t even understand the sum, the order of numbers.
  8. Gunther
    Gunther 23 November 2015 14: 22 New
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    Denis Obukhov Quote:
    Apparently outdated information. MTU is now being replaced on all ships under construction.

    Yes, back in February 2015, the Navy Commander-in-Chief V. Chirkov announced the replacement of German MTU diesel engines with domestic ones produced by the Kolomensky Zavod during the construction of the upgraded project 20385 corvettes.
    Fritz turned out to be worthless suppliers.
  9. Manul
    Manul 23 November 2015 14: 55 New
    0
    But it is impossible for Ukrainians to forgive the 3 lard, and even pay extra, and transfer the Zorya-Mashproekt to us?
    1. anfil
      anfil 23 November 2015 15: 06 New
      0
      Quote: Manul
      But it is impossible for Ukrainians to forgive the 3 lard, and even pay extra, and transfer the Zorya-Mashproekt to us?


      You can ... but go ahead!
  10. Platonich
    Platonich 23 November 2015 15: 18 New
    0
    8,663772636 billion rubles! That’s accuracy !!!! It’s as if I counted it in my own pocket.
  11. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 23 November 2015 16: 30 New
    0
    Well, actually it all started with the "optimization" of medicine and education, now we got to the FSB. Only gas-oil industry continues to live in a big way, they have nothing to do with it. The annual salary of ten civil servants managing these companies is exactly the same as the cost of such a ship. Reduce the salary of twenty managers by 50% and in a year there will be money for the ship.
  12. Zomanus
    Zomanus 24 November 2015 06: 59 New
    0
    Why are you crying then?
    Well yes, not enough money.
    Well, maybe these funds will be spent on the modernization of production.
    Yes, and if you look, we are launching the Kyrgyz Republic now
    almost with machine-gun generosity.
    And then they are worth a lot of money ...