The signing of the contract for the construction of new patrol ships postponed

The signing of a contract for the construction of two regular ships of the 22100 project for the FSB Border Service has been postponed by about 2, the blog reports bmpd with reference to the general director of the Zelenodolsk plant them. Gorky Renata Mistakhova.

“The Zelenodolsk plant during the construction of large border guard ships (PSCR) of the 22100 project faces two main problems - import substitution and lack of funding. In connection with the latter, the start of construction of two more ships of this series was postponed. It is planned that the contract for the construction of the second batch will be signed in 2017-2018 year. The ships currently under construction are practically the leading ones too, since Russian equipment is fully installed on them. This will cause all tests to be repeated. ”- said Mistahov.

The blogger reminds that the head ship of the 22100 "Polar Star" project was launched in May of this year and is now undergoing sea trials in Kronstadt.

In April, the 2015-th FSB entered into a contract for the construction of the 2-th and 3-th ships. In total, the Border Guard is planning to order the 5 PCR. The cost of one ship - 8,663772636 billion rubles.

Comments

[Denis Obukhov]

Apparently outdated information. MTU is now being replaced on all ships under construction.

[Baikonur]

faced with two main problems - import substitution and lack of funding.

Well, they’ve come to the bad news of the military industrial complex! And lately only URA - MIC! Not calculated strength.
It is sad.

all tests will have to be repeated

That means more expenses.

[venaya]

If postponed, then perhaps priorities are directed to other, more relevant projects.

[79807420129]

Quote: venaya

If postponed, then perhaps priorities are directed to other, more relevant projects.

Probably to increase the salary of the deputies and officials

[Homo]

Quote: 79807420129

Probably to increase the salary of the deputies and officials

Are there any smarter thoughts?

[Watchdog]

But no. Our servants of the people will soon begin to fall from hunger, the poor. In a difficult year, it would be possible to simplify the process of reviewing laws. All the same, we have a fictitious legislative branch of pure water. So is it not better to disperse the Legislative Assembly, and let their salary be spent on military needs? So no - no smarter thoughts.

[Homo]

Quote: Watchdog

But no. Our servants of the people will soon begin to fall from hunger, the poor. yes In a difficult year, it would be possible to simplify the process of reviewing laws. Anyway, we have a fictitious legislative branch of pure water. So is it not better to disperse the Legislative Assembly, and let their salary be spent on military needs? So no - no smarter thoughts. what

And the servants of the people seem to be chosen by you! Do not like the flag in your hands, raise society, withdraw, nominate others. Or, as always, in language, is it easier to expose from the sofa?

[ANTI.KORR.]

The article clearly states

Quote: Article

faced with two main problems - import substitution and lack of funding.

At the same time, various kinds of competent authorities find bureaucrats stupidly in safes and in desks of values ​​worth billions of rubles, and this is only what they did not have time to take out over the hill, bloody showdowns take place between comers and defended officials (Krasnogorosk), former thieves ministers live in "modest" houses in France and Switzerland, children of civil servants study and live in Western countries ...
And the government, meanwhile, allocates huge funds to maintain the banking system, and in fact to currency speculation.
The outflow of capital from the country is growing at an unprecedented pace, and we are being told about the lack of funding for several watchdogs !!!
And for a year and a half we have been told from a duroscope tales about import substitution ..
What kind of aircraft carriers and generally ships of the 1st rag can we talk about, if hammers, nails and trench tools are already making tea for us with pleasure?

[Vladimir 23rus]

What kind of aircraft carriers and generally ships of the 1st rag can we talk about, if hammers, nails and trench tools are already making tea for us with pleasure?

For twenty years now we have been buying tools and machines in China and Europe (hi conversion). So no wonder.

[anfil]

Quote: 79807420129

Quote: venaya

If postponed, then perhaps priorities are directed to other, more relevant projects.

Probably to increase the salary of the deputies and officials

We didn’t try to calculate how much the precision weapons used to protect our homeland in Syria cost, I think we won’t invoice them, because. it is more in our interests.
And we will build guard ships anyway, but a little later.

[Bombardier]

The cost of one ship is 8,663772636 billion rubles


Pennies are not indicated .... Usually these numbers are rounded.

[avt]

Quote: venaya

If postponed, then perhaps priorities are directed to other, more relevant projects.

The FSB officers will tolerate even without their own "border cruisers" - so far they will cut them using "pearls and gems" easier. Much more relevant now is Buyany M for the Black Sea Fleet and the Baltic Fleet, Chinese diesel engines from MTU will be used for them and for something larger than the 20380 type.

[kil 31]

Guys do not put into compote. Contracts are concluded at the beginning of the year, wait a couple of months and the order will be.

[Wedmak]

And why is it postponed? If you are replacing equipment, on the contrary, you need to build a couple according to the amended design and conduct tests.

[Dangerous]

It is written that the main reason for the lack of funding

[veksha50]

"" Zelenodolsk plant in the construction of large border patrol ships (PSKR) project 22100 is faced with two main problems - import substitution and lack of funding "...

Hmm ... I'm afraid that so far - only flowers ...

How many times I think about the fact that, no matter how cynical it sounds, but in the Union, defense, education, medicine and science were funded by the production and sale of products from the tobacco and distillery industries ...

Somewhere in the years 1974-1975, the cost of producing drinking alcohol from wheat grains was worth - I don’t remember exactly - either 3,5 kopecks, or 5,5 kopecks per liter ... And this is - at the cost of half a liter of vodka in a store in those time 3,62 - 4,12 ... The difference is huge, and all this difference went to the state budget ... And enough for the purposes that I indicated above ...

They gave it all to private hands ... What difference does it make people use vodka and tobacco, despite health warnings (I myself am a vivid example) ... So at least the money would go to the state treasury ...

And then - to give such a profitable industry to private ownership - they gave it away, and now they are afraid to take it away ...

To introduce a state monopoly on tobacco and alcoholic beverages is already a necessity !!!

[ANTI.KORR.]

Quote: veksha50

To introduce a state monopoly on tobacco and alcoholic beverages is already a necessity !!!

No way!
As the president says publicly at all summits and forums, there will be no revisions to privatization and we will not turn off the liberal market rate!

And as for the financing: it’s not even hiding that funds comparable to the country's budget are being stolen in the Russian Federation, and then the budget itself is also being stolen.
But we do not punish embezzlers, because "we are not 37th" year "...

[veksha50]

Quote: ANTI.KORR.

As the president says publicly at all summits and forums, there will be no privatization reviews

If there was political will, it would be possible to open state-owned factories without deprivatization and drive the monopoly for the first year with a price lower than private factories ... A high-quality monopoly so that people do not poison ... BUT !!! Under the strictest control, so that not a drop goes to the side (ehhhh ... dreams ...) ... and the private business either dies or accepts the rules of the game ...

But the struggle here will be terrible and fierce, although the end justifies the means ...

[Boa kaa]

- Are sanctions beginning to affect?
-Well no! Dol ... 3m chiefs who scattered the entire production of shipboard power plants in the Union republics! And there was some justification: to strengthen the working class of the republics!
Strengthened! Now constipation itself, however.

[Homo]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

-Well no! Dol ... 3m chiefs who scattered the entire production of shipboard power plants in the Union republics! And there was some justification: to strengthen the working class of the republics!

And you will not have the desire to send to ... or to ... your wife (with whom we lived 40-50 years) for the fact that she will give birth to your daughter, and the daughter will give birth to your granddaughter who will become a prostitute? An example is ugly, but it can make you think before you write something!

[zadorin1974]

Not a correct comparison Gennady. We, as usual, wishful thinking. Having handed (Alexander) correctly noticed, they helped everyone, only to their detriment. Who knows what ended up with the epic with Ukrainian turbines? Here you have 15 more lard.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: Homo

And you will not have the desire to send to ... or ... your wife (with whom 40-50 lived)

Gene, what, the problem? Then - Divorce and do not suffer

Quote: Homo

for the fact that she will give birth to a daughter for you, and the daughter will give birth to you a granddaughter who will become a prostitute?

Gene, are there only women in the family? Yeah, you have an unenviable fate: there’s no one to continue the race even ... Sadness, however!

Quote: Homo

An ugly example,

Not the right word: HE IS LOOKING and is a personal attack ... of a nearby person who does not know the economic geography of the Union! (Goofy, golem!)

Quote: Homo

make you think before you write something!

Well, my dear, let's think (unless, of course, you have something to do!) I say:
The Russian Federation (during the entire existence of the Union) has been a donor of the poor, middle (age) Asian, and Caucasian republics. But she also cared for the Baltic (litas, labuses, esti) at the highest level, as in an expensive restaurant, while interrupting with barley. I am silent about Ukraine and Belarus: one people. The truth * chubatyh * was bitten by the "mad" dog of amerskoy democracy, and they contracted a serious illness. Hopefully, they will recover with time.
And here is a concrete confirmation of what I said above:
* For many years, the budgets of ALL Union republics, except for RUSSIA, were reduced with the help of subsidies from the state budget.
In the 30s and 40s, more than 60% of the expenses of the union republics were covered by subsidies throughout the country. In the years of the first five-year plans, the growth of capital investments in Central Asia was 5-6 times higher than in Russia. The population of the republics of Central Asia, Transcaucasia, autonomies of the RSFSR for many years was partially or completely exempted from agricultural taxes and state taxes. The economy of the national peoples also rose to a large extent due to the purchase price policy. For example, in Central Asia and Transcaucasia, purchasing prices for cotton, rice, and citrus fruits SIGNIFICANTLY EXCEEDED the prime cost, and the main agricultural products of the European part of the USSR (flax, potatoes, grain, meat) were purchased at REDUCED prices. Even after the war, the Russian people were the object of the most rapacious and cynical exploitation in favor of the "fraternal republics." The USSR budget consisted of 75% of deductions from the RSFSR, the remaining 25% were given by Ukraine, Belarus and, in part, Kazakhstan (where more than half of the population was Russian). The other "republics" were dated from the center. Simply put, the money that was squeezed out of the Russians, Ukrainians and Belarusians went to the “economic growth” of the Caucasus, Central Asia and the Baltic states. ”So who“ became a prostitute ”with us? (Https://www.stihi.ru/2005 / 09 / 12-99)
I’m not a chauvinist, but it’s a shame when any ungrateful creatures spit in an open soul!

[ANTI.KORR.]

Quote: Boa constrictor KAA

displaced all the production of shipborne EU in the Union republics! And there was some justification: to strengthen the working class of the republics!

Then it was a single state!

[dchegrinec]

Hurry hare's whole ass in shit! The rush to build ships of this type is useless.

[Shark Lover]

I didn’t even understand the sum, the order of numbers.

[Gunther]

Denis Obukhov Quote:
Apparently outdated information. MTU is now being replaced on all ships under construction.

Yes, back in February 2015, Commander-in-Chief of the Navy V.Chirkov announced the replacement of German MTU diesel engines with domestic ones produced by the Kolomensky Zavod during the construction of modernized project 20385 corvettes.
Fritz turned out to be worthless suppliers.

[Manul]

Can't Ukrainians forgive 3 lard, and even pay extra, and transfer "Zorya-mashproekt" to us?

[anfil]

Quote: Manul

Can't Ukrainians forgive 3 lard, and even pay extra, and transfer "Zorya-mashproekt" to us?

You can ... but go ahead!

[Platonich]

8,663772636 billion rubles! That’s accuracy !!!! It’s as if I counted it in my own pocket.

[chunga-changa]

Well, actually, it all started with the "optimization" of medicine and education, now they got to the FSB. Only gas-oil industry continues to live on a grand scale, they don't care about anything. The annual salary of ten civil servants managing these JSCs is exactly the same as the cost of such a ship. Cut the salaries of twenty managers by 50% and in a year there will be money for the ship.

[Zomanus]

Why are you crying then?
Well yes, not enough money.
Well, maybe these funds will be spent on the modernization of production.
Yes, and if you look, we are launching the Kyrgyz Republic now
almost with machine-gun generosity.
And then they are worth a lot of money ...