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A look from the Crimea on a trip

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22 November in 00: 22 h. Crimea plunged into darkness. K 6: 00 electricity has returned to almost all major settlements. Then the blackouts began.


The total need of the Crimea is on average estimated at 1100 MW per day, however, in warm weather, the peninsula is quite enough 800 MW. To date, mobile gas turbine power plants (235-270 MW), Crimean CHP (86-110 MW) are working, solar power plants in cloudy weather still give 5-30 MW, wind 15-29 MW (ideally, wind power stations should give 63 , and solar - 267 MW). Thus, today the Crimea receives a little more than 350 MW of electricity. According to the Minister of Fuel and Energy of the Republic Sergey Egorov, the shortage is 450 MW.

If on Sunday it was said about fuel reserves for 25-29 days, then on Monday it turned out that it was only left for 10-13 days. At the same time, proven sources report the presence of fuel on the 3 of the day for MGTES and its almost complete absence for diesel-generator sets of diesel-gas generators, which should have been given up to 200 MW per day! With a similar power, fan blackouts will continue 12-18 hours per day for the public. All medical institutions, transport and military facilities will be provided with electricity around the clock. A single outage schedule has not yet been developed.



What is it for Crimeans? Catastrophe? Maybe this is the main argument to go back and submit to these inadequate elements that blow up supports and dream of a deserted Crimea? It is interesting to observe groups of individuals who put forward such theories. For a year and a half of the “war with Russia”, the “heroes” managed to defeat almost a dozen monuments and finish off several power lines. Well, this is not counting the flight of a million Russian soldiers from under the Donetsk airport, who were thoroughly dissolved in the space in front of the OSCE observers ...



For the Crimean Tatar "activists" everything looks simple. If the Crimean Tatars are mass-shot and deported (well, or first shot, and then deported), then you need to deprive them of food, water and electricity. Perhaps then it will be easier for them ...

According to the statement of the Ministry of Energy of Ukraine, the repair of supports should take no more than 2 days, if the activists-terrorists will not disturb them. However, they do not plan to hurry up to repair and drive away this incomprehensible gathering from the supports. In this case, it is worth considering the worst option for the Crimea: the official refusal to supply electricity. What a pity that such a great Peremoga, like a complete blockade of the Crimea, will last no more than a month. The first phase of the power bridge at 400 MW will be ready by January 2016. A kind of gift for the New Year has long been built at the maximum rate, and there is not the slightest reason to talk about being late. This will allow you to avoid any blackouts when using additional power supplies. The second phase will allow supplying 800 MW per day to the peninsula to be commissioned in the summer of 2016 in the summer

A look from the Crimea on a trip


Now about the answer to Russia. In the case of the official rejection of the supply of electricity to the Crimea, the most optimal and predictable answers of Russia look like this:

- cessation of electricity supply to 800 MW per day to Ukraine;
- complete cessation of coal supplies;
- termination of gas supply;
- cessation of supply of fuel for nuclear power plants (however, this step can be called dangerous because the Ukrainian side will try to change it to a foreign one, the use of which could lead to a catastrophe).

And what are we in the Crimea? And we have an extra weekend and romance ...
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  1. avvg
    avvg 24 November 2015 12: 56 New
    +4
    It must be said, turning to the Ukrainians to turn off- Do not wait!
    1. Samaritan
      Samaritan 24 November 2015 13: 00 New
      +8
      To these scum? ?
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      2. Vend
        Vend 24 November 2015 13: 32 New
        +5
        In the event of an official refusal to supply electricity to the Crimea, the most optimal and predictable responses from Russia

        Our president has repeatedly proved that he knows unpredictable answers. Waiting for
        1. cniza
          cniza 24 November 2015 14: 07 New
          +5
          Quote: Wend
          In the event of an official refusal to supply electricity to the Crimea, the most optimal and predictable responses from Russia

          Our president has repeatedly proved that he knows unpredictable answers. Waiting for



          We use the moment and increase the birth rate in spite of Khokhlov, and seriously, what can you take from the wretched, they don’t even understand what they’re doing.
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    2. marlin1203
      marlin1203 24 November 2015 15: 54 New
      +4
      Power block of the Crimea. Candlelight evenings. Romance. Fertility growth ... Some advantages.laughing
      1. agbykov
        agbykov 24 November 2015 16: 41 New
        +1
        - everything that is frozen in the summer in the freezer is thrown into the trash ...
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      1. agbykov
        agbykov 24 November 2015 16: 48 New
        0
        in this way the innocent (ordinary people) will suffer again and the reward will find those who are not involved ... Our enemies only rub their hands with joy from such offers.
  2. sever.56
    sever.56 24 November 2015 12: 58 New
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    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/355/znek483.png

    It is a pity that it took too long to determine the contractor, as a result of which the cable laying work began with a delay. Again our bureaucracy and slowness. When implementing such projects, it is necessary to minimize all correspondence and coordination.
    And I agree with the author that dill should be blocked by oxygen in all possible directions. Stop being altruists in a relationship with the junta!
    1. ssergn
      ssergn 24 November 2015 13: 38 New
      +4
      Novak has already stated that the Russian Federation may stop coal supplies:

      http://www.interfax.ru/russia/481168

      And then - Ukraine began restoration work on one of the power lines in the Crimea.

      http://www.interfax.ru/world/481144

      And so that raises questions about the legitimacy of the government, which essentially goes to the scumbag. The situation is simple - a terrorist attack on power lines and zero reaction from law enforcement agencies. And they still say that they will not allow repairmen.
      Aw, Europe, wake up. Who are you calling to yourself?
      1. ssergn
        ssergn 24 November 2015 14: 08 New
        +3
        IN RUSSIA 13: 43, 24 November 2015
        Ministry of Emergencies delivered 300 mobile power generators to Crimea.

        Dvorkovich supported the application of countermeasures to Ukraine for de-energizing the Crimea.

        http://www.interfax.ru/russia/481203

        It seems that they are not going to release the brakes.
        1. gergi
          gergi 24 November 2015 15: 19 New
          +2
          Well, if you yourself Dvorkovich! Then of course! And who is a dvorkovich?
          1. ssergn
            ssergn 24 November 2015 18: 07 New
            +1
            can it be without this?

            Arkady Vladimir Dvorkovich (26 March 1972, Moscow) - Russian economist. Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation since May 21 2012. Valid State Advisor to the Russian Federation 1 class (2004). Chairman of the Board of Directors of Russian Railways since June 22 2015.

            Assistant to the President of the Russian Federation from May 13 2008 of the year to May 21 of the 2012 of the year.

            Well, how to get these here to educate. Yandex googel? first time hear?
    2. Svidetel 45
      Svidetel 45 24 November 2015 14: 10 New
      +9
      It would be nice if our officials responsible for electricity supply would send them to Crimea together for a while to live together for a while, then I would be sure that the problem of providing Crimea with electricity would be solved very quickly.
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 24 November 2015 15: 40 New
        +2
        Quote: Svidetel 45
        It would be nice if our officials responsible for electricity supply all together with their families send them to Crimea for a while to live,

        In principle, I agree ... But it’s better not to Crimea, but to Magadan. Although, ... Magadan is also a pity ... In the tundra of them.
        1. ssergn
          ssergn 24 November 2015 18: 09 New
          0
          Quote: Sergey S.
          To the tundra of them.


          Nah, tundra cherish nada. laughing
    3. max702
      max702 24 November 2015 14: 25 New
      +9
      Quote: sever.56
      It is a pity that they took too long to determine with the contractor, as a result of which the work on laying the cable began with a delay

      That's what I was talking about! And Comrade Stalin said every "delay" has a name and surname! In previous posts on this topic, he said that the laying of the energy bridge stretched out for two years is NOT a TECHNICAL option, but a SKIN AND GESHEFT! For which he was minus. to hell with this, people’s misunderstanding of real problems, and not invented ones (the technical impossibility of earlier construction), enrages. When the decision was made about our Crimea! In the first 24 hours, a meeting was to be held with all ministries on the prompt solution of the problems of Crimea's entry into the Russian Federation, and it was stated in a very harsh form that THIS is a matter of national importance and delays are UNACCEPTABLE! Should the weak points and "bottle goals" of this entry be stipulated, as well as an agreement on what should be done here quickly. and the gesheft of interested persons will work in another place and the state will allow them .. But what do we see? Here is a simple example, the largest and main bank in our country where the money of the overwhelming majority of residents of the Russian Federation is kept. "Sberbank" does not work in the territory of Crimea .. It works in the territory of Ukraine, but not in Crimea! How much did you decide on the bridge? It's scary to imagine what kind of wagons of money were promised in the form of kickbacks .. And with all projects so .. I sincerely hoped that Crimea would become a pilot project to build a new Russia. exactly on this
      new methods of governance will be tested in the region .. How naive I am .. Alas, the top officials of our country DO NOT REALLY work ..
      1. sever.56
        sever.56 24 November 2015 18: 00 New
        -2
        Quote: max702
        And Comrade Stalin said every "delay" has a name and surname!

        Quote: max702
        Alas, the REAL bureaucracy of our country DOES NOT REALLY work ..


        Maxim. I welcome hi
        I absolutely agree with you both with your position and the concept of the situation that has developed around Crimea and. generally. execution of instructions of President Putin.
        There is a creeping, quietly done sabotage of all the best proposals of the President and the patriots who are in his environment. We read the proposals of S. Glazyev, Advisor to the President on economic issues. This is exactly what is vital for Russia the day before yesterday. Why is not introduced into life? - There are too many people in the Russian government who oppose this because of their selfish interests and clear betrayal. What to do? - To clean the government in the most severe way, regardless of the person and bring people there. for whom Russia is not a place for feeding, but a MOTHERLAND, with which everything is connected with it.
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    4. 16112014nk
      16112014nk 24 November 2015 16: 48 New
      +3
      Quote: sever.56
      Again our bureaucracy and slowness

      It's not about bureaucracy and sluggishness, although they are too. The fact is that for 1,5 years, Russian companies / officials do not start laying the power cable, because they are afraid of Western sanctions. The managers of these companies have money, families, real estate in the West. None of them want to be blacklisted. And the problems of the Crimeans for them are a matter of the 25th. And do this work now Chinese! With the help of the Chinese cable layer. For example, the Turks in 1974 laid in the North. Cyprus water and cable in two months. The distance between the shores is about 100 km.
  3. iouris
    iouris 24 November 2015 12: 59 New
    +5
    This type of terrorism is no better than the one that the air forces bomb in Syria. Or is it better?
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    2. Airdefence_107
      24 November 2015 13: 10 New
      0
      Due to today's event, there is a possibility that the bombing zone will expand to Turkey. And these in Ukraine should have sent several "Calibers" long ago. They say the anti-terrorist homing head accidentally aimed at other terrorists)
  4. Altona
    Altona 24 November 2015 13: 00 New
    +1
    Reliable transit countries confirm their reliability as they can ... That's with Europe probably soon, they will undermine the GDS at the border and figs to you, and not gas, which thread is Slovak Křimek ...
  5. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 24 November 2015 13: 02 New
    16
    Fertility surge expected in Crimea laughing In exactly the end of the summer. Well, that’s even good! In everything you need to look for positive points.
  6. tankovod
    tankovod 24 November 2015 13: 02 New
    +6
    The last paragraph pleased. From the sofa, the author can and has stopped all deliveries, but they only deliver Ukrainians and gas and everything else, they also give a discount. For Gazprom and others, Ukrainians are partners, not enemies
  7. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 24 November 2015 13: 03 New
    +5
    But is it not a planned action of the White House. A certain sequence is being traced. Let's wait to see of course, but the fact that the shafts just do nothing is for sure!
    1. Airdefence_107
      24 November 2015 13: 12 New
      0
      In view of the fact that this coincided with an exacerbation in the Donbas, this is the most likely option. In Syria, they have a bummer, they remembered about Ukraine.
    2. brasist
      brasist 24 November 2015 14: 01 New
      0
      Yes, here and don’t go to the grandmother, these dumbheads themselves have not been deciding anything for a long time, it’s strange, like senility with cookies can’t be seen ...
  8. Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 24 November 2015 13: 03 New
    +8
    It’s a pity that electricity cannot be put in a box! laughing I am sure that parcels would be sent to Crimea from all over Russia. I would also send some kilowatts ... To spite Ukraine ... Hold on, Crimea!
    1. Airdefence_107
      24 November 2015 13: 13 New
      +2
      Thanks you! smile
  9. Magadan
    Magadan 24 November 2015 13: 04 New
    +8
    The question to our authorities is still the same: why did they start laying the cable from the mainland in October 2015, and not in May 2014 ?!
    The fact that dill chops the light was clear to the baby. But no, someone in the Russian government really needs to see that Dill has its own levers of influence on Russia. Because this "someone" from Roschinush is ordered to do so by the Gasdep. Otherwise, the little money and personal sanctions will be received and all property abroad will be lost.
    Russia can defeat any enemy. but the trouble of Russia is traitors. In the 20 century they managed to ruin the country twice.
    And the traitors have not gone anywhere. So either the cleansing of the authorities with real landings (and not like with Vasilyeva), or kirdyk the country. And the same persons who shout "Hosanna" to Putin will shout "crucify him, crucify" in a couple of years.
    Understand you, Hitlerites, finally. Merge not only Novorossia. They merge both Crimea and all of Russia. And Russian officials merge us.
    And if I'm wrong, answer why the cable to the Crimea was laid in October of the 15, and not in May of the 14 ?!
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 24 November 2015 13: 14 New
      +7
      Quote: Magadan
      The question to our government is the same: why did the cable from the mainland be laid in October 2015

      All cable handlers are chartered for years. We have no such ships. The Europeans would not have been able to clear the stump. Well, at least the Chinese have helped.
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 24 November 2015 15: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Sid.74
        All cable handlers are chartered for years. We have no such ships. The Europeans would not have been able to clear the stump. Well, at least the Chinese have helped.

        When Leningrad was in blockade in 1941, a cable was laid from the main land along the bottom of Lake Ladoga, and there were no cable laying ships at all.
        In emergency situations, you need to work not according to instructions, but according to the principle "die yourself, but help your friend out".
        Crimeans from the mainland, our apologies for the callousness of the soul and the inaction of some of our fellow citizens.

        Shoigu as Chairman of the Government of Russia !!!
      2. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 24 November 2015 18: 44 New
        0
        Quote: Sid.74
        All cable handlers are chartered for years. We have no such ships. The Europeans would not have been able to clear the stump. Well, at least the Chinese have helped.

        Who wants to do business is looking for a way. He who does not want is looking for a reason!
    2. Juborg
      Juborg 24 November 2015 13: 16 New
      +7
      Respected Magadan, they began to lay the cable not because they had slammed it, but because we had never produced such products, and Europe announced sanctions against which the European companies lost the ability to lay the cable, we agreed with China, which has the production of such products and the performance of similar works. Preparation, negotiations on work and payment, delivery of equipment, etc., takes time. In addition, the Chinese have pummeled the price by four times higher than the prices on the world market for such works, and here they bargained. You just look at the issue online, and then bring everything to patronage.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 24 November 2015 15: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: juborg
        They began to lay the cable not because they had splashed it, but because we had never produced such products, and Europe announced sanctions against which the European companies lost the ability to lay the cable, and agreed with China, which has the production of such products and the performance of similar works.

        I'm afraid I'm jumping to the question "How much was destroyed and who will be responsible for this?", As well as to revise the results of our 25-year "democratization", but the question arises - But how did we lay such cables before the 1991 year? Probably produced. and it was not European companies and the Chinese who laid it, but quite a Soviet SMU and SUMR ... Maybe this is not the last such case and you need to think about what they themselves were able to, but for 25 years, they probably forgot how to? So, probably, the production of cable is not more complicated than the production of aircraft and missiles? And they, in spite of all the reforms, reorganizations, restructuring and optimization, are doing ....

        Speaking of technology. I heard that, for example, they don’t put asphalt on the highway abroad, but they lay the slabs and know only the seams are covered. Well, I won’t talk about patching, these plates are unprofitable for our road builders, but our big bosses say that we need to buy technology, train specialists, etc. ... I saw how Uzbeks from the airfield company in 80’s - yesterday from quarantine, and today to put a shovel in teeth and the same plates. And nothing, the planes flew ... Maybe even now it's not about lost technology?
    3. attuda
      attuda 24 November 2015 13: 28 New
      +4
      why the cable to the Crimea began to be laid in October 15th, and not in May 14th ?!


      1 for the fact that in Russia except Crimea
      there is still much to do in the world. Planning is only an indicator of inevitable will.
      2 First, geopolitical issues were resolved, up to economic ones.
      It's one thing to bring Crimea home
      without a single shot
      another hold him
      in terms of world recognition.
      The current situation in Crimea
      this is the last straw in the tombstone of awareness of Crimeans who are Ukrainians.
      3 do not fuss mr-comrade mr-sir)
      Remember better Russian proverbs: based on patience and wisdom.
      Soon a fairy tale tells - yes
      soon things are done ...
      And what is not done is for the better ...
      Everything will come true, unless of course it is.
      but...
      Russia and not worried!
    4. tacet
      tacet 24 November 2015 13: 46 New
      +4
      1) The cable still needs to be manufactured (at least 4 months)
      2) The cable itself is just a cable (10KVA is not connected to the outlet) Accordingly, it is necessary to manufacture, deliver and mount substations (lowering, etc. I will not paint, but they "in general will be up to your waist") and on both sides of the strait ...
      3) 800 MW you still need to take from somewhere, not only bring the power lines to the Kerch Strait (this is not a dozen kilometers)
      4) Upon the arrival of the cable to Kerch, this power still needs to be distributed and transported further along the peninsula. The existing system in Crimea would be covered with a copper basin on the second day of receiving such a load. (I saw its condition in 2014. Many substations are equipped with equipment of the seventies of the last century, it has already exhausted its resource twice)
      As a result, the work was a couple of years. To be honest, I am also pleasantly surprised by the pace of construction.
      5) I believe that the leadership of the Russian Federation underestimated the level of "professionalism" of the Ukrainian "partners", namely, they did not assume that the leaders of the Ukrainians would go to the murder of their energy system in the south of their country. Well, people have not yet learned how to generate electricity into the air (perhaps an insight descended on the descendants of the ancient ukrov and they mastered this technology)
      If by the end of the month the Ukrainian power engineering specialists do not find what to do with the "extra" MW, several power plants will grumble in the non-railway station.
      P.S. By the way, the cable itself was laid back in September (the first branch)
    5. mast
      mast 24 November 2015 14: 47 New
      +1
      Sometimes you read all sorts of nonsense and wonder. In order to lay the cable, you need to prepare the infrastructure from both one and the other. That is, completely rebuild, and this time.
      Reading the comments of many, it seems that they are thinking of dragging this carry from room to room.
  10. pts-m
    pts-m 24 November 2015 13: 04 New
    -3
    But what about the Yankees' best friends, with their letachi. Or again, like a long-playing provocation. It’s something Yankiv’s freebie. It’s dangerous for states to sell products from Russia. As they say ... any product they have will mean an epidemic of pubic underarm disease. ..
  11. lukke
    lukke 24 November 2015 13: 04 New
    +3
    Yes, it’s not enough pleasant, but I’ll say this - more than once the Crimea (I’m talking more even for Simferopol) switched to a "rolling" shutdown under the Kiev authorities. I think they will hold out until the lines and cables are supplied from the Krasnodar Territory.
    1. Airdefence_107
      24 November 2015 13: 14 New
      +1
      I remember the abbreviation EESU and spit)))
  12. HAM
    HAM 24 November 2015 13: 06 New
    +4
    And not only rabbits breed, but also sheep.
  13. Kostya Andreev
    Kostya Andreev 24 November 2015 13: 07 New
    +2
    Sorry friends a little off topic. But today VNA Ukraine is a national holiday. Change for change. Crimea without light, the plane shot down.
  14. erased
    erased 24 November 2015 13: 14 New
    +1
    It is unlikely that Russia will introduce any of the sanctions. Only a threat.
    But the downed Su-24 in the sky of Syria is casus belli. So let's see what happens. The Kremlin will decide to a full response in the light of recent statements by the president or what?
    By the way, how much is stew and crackers now? And also cereals, salt, matches, kerosene, firewood ... Isn't it time to stock up ?!
    1. Airdefence_107
      24 November 2015 13: 18 New
      +2
      The best answer is not to strike back at the ground, but simply knock down a Turkish plane on the border with Syria. In my opinion.
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 24 November 2015 14: 46 New
        +3
        Best answer
        The best answer: a ban on travel to Turkey. If you beat, then you need to beat at the most painful place, it is remembered for longer.yes
        1. Airdefence_107
          24 November 2015 15: 41 New
          +1
          And it is necessary! There will be no Russian tourists - there will be $ 25 billion dollars a year.
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      3. gergi
        gergi 24 November 2015 15: 27 New
        0
        Option to drown the Turkish pelvis, by accident, naturally,
  15. A-Sim
    A-Sim 24 November 2015 13: 19 New
    +7
    I am glad that there is no panic or looting of any kind. Yesterday, the lights went out in a large store - everything was organized and slowly went to the cash desks (we still worked on uninterrupted systems for 30 minutes). The people have been informed, there are no signs of dissatisfaction with the actions of the authorities. So far, everything is according to the emergency plan (he was involved for some time). And the Ukrainian authorities have already trained us with "rolling" blackouts. And the problem with the only 4 lines to Crimea is 50 years old and no one tried to solve it before. Either it washed away these supports, then the glaciation of the lines broke the wire - they did not stutter about the backup power (because it is expensive !!!)
  16. KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 24 November 2015 13: 19 New
    +1
    All saw and saw Ukraine bitches under themselves. He bursts, and they continue to cut ...
  17. provincial
    provincial 24 November 2015 13: 20 New
    0
    In the event of an official refusal to supply electricity to the Crimea, the most optimal and predictable answers of Russia look like this:

    - cessation of electricity supply to 800 MW per day to Ukraine;
    - complete cessation of coal supplies;
    - termination of gas supply;
    - the cessation of fuel supplies for nuclear power plants (however, this step can be called dangerous due to the fact that the Ukrainian side will try to change it to a foreign one, the use of which could lead to disaster). Who believes in such sanctions by the Russian Federation to Ukraine? SIGN UP.
    1. Airdefence_107
      24 November 2015 13: 24 New
      +1
      So to speak. The first 2 items are most likely. Let me remind you that today Alexander Novak has already announced the possibility of stopping the supply of coal.
      1. Tornavus
        Tornavus 24 November 2015 19: 48 New
        0
        On the first two points:
        - a few days ago Ukraine completely stopped importing electricity from Russia.
        - There are agreements (and they are already being implemented) for the supply of coal from South Africa.

        Interesting, right?
    2. provincial
      provincial 24 November 2015 14: 03 New
      -1
      I waited, I waited for comments and I can’t wait to see. Have you stopped believing? And to whom? And about the pilots also fog.
  18. hartlend
    hartlend 24 November 2015 13: 43 New
    0
    While the protégés of the United States are in power, there is nothing they can do, the people should not suffer for such rulers.
    1. gergi
      gergi 24 November 2015 15: 32 New
      +2
      If the Ukrainian innocent people have the opportunity to walk around Russia with weapons in their hands, we will choke in the blood. They hate us, this is a fact. But for something, but just like that.
  19. shuhartred
    shuhartred 24 November 2015 14: 04 New
    +3
    And what are we in the Crimea? And we have an extra weekend and romance ...
    Wangyu sharp increase in fertility in the Crimea. I envy, we have a polar night, and no one turns off the electricity. And so I want, my wife will have nowhere to go love
  20. chelovektapok
    chelovektapok 24 November 2015 14: 54 New
    +2
    Actions to turn off Crimea are the essence of all pig nature: shit under the door as much as possible. In addition to disconnecting Bandera from gas, coal, electricity, an embargo on used goods, you should also filter out ukrogasterbayters. Deported back to the "ugly". The only exception is for refugees from Donbass. For the rest, vpendyurit income 30% and at least 30 tr. per month from the snout. Enough of babysitting with the "brothers" already. Let them bring down the Maidan and put things in order at home! Figuratively speaking, on what front line will the jumpers be in the event of a NATO attack on the Russian Federation? Let them be on the other side. There is nothing to spoil the air here!
    1. Tornavus
      Tornavus 24 November 2015 19: 51 New
      0
      Quote: chelovektapok
      should also filter ukrogasterbeiter

      No problem. And will you build the streets of revenge yourself?
  21. Zomanus
    Zomanus 24 November 2015 15: 09 New
    -3
    In fact, we will not see much open in connection with the Crimea and Ukraine.
    For the fall of Ukraine is not yet profitable.
    While gas flows through it, while winter.
    What about the death of our pilots in Turkey ...
    No matter how blasphemous it sounds,
    but you need to use it to the maximum.
    I think that any actions in Syria and not only will be forgiven for us now.
    It’s possible that these actions were developed even after Putin’s statement
    we will see new amazing things.
  22. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 24 November 2015 15: 16 New
    +1
    For some reason, for quite some time now nothing has been heard about the cunning plan. Literally half a year ago, of all the cracks, it was just about him, and here they are silent as partisans. What is there in this regard about the shutdown of the Crimea and in general at what stage? How is it developing? When will we win?
  23. rus-5819
    rus-5819 24 November 2015 15: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: gergi
    Well, if you yourself Dvorkovich! Then of course! And who is a dvorkovich?


    Amerikosovsky disciple, Medvedev's protege, does not sink anywhere.
  24. 23424636
    23424636 24 November 2015 17: 10 New
    +1
    during the blockade of Leningrad, the energy bridge from the Volkhov hydroelectric power station -5 lines of 10 kilovolts was stretched along the bottom of Ladoga for 2 months. I would like to ask Minister Novak - what did he think that the clowns from Kiev will wait until he wakes up in March 2014. This is an obvious sabotage of the Minister of Energy, if not older in rank. I believe that the FSB will find real draggers with a cable laying 1.5 years long
    1. Tornavus
      Tornavus 24 November 2015 20: 21 New
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      Based on materials from RIA Novosti:
      "The Russian government plans to fully provide the peninsula with electricity in May next year through its own generation and flows from the Russian energy system."

      "The night is close and full of horrors" (c)