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Americans Not stupid

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Today it is enough just to get access to various sources of information. We are rich, we are fabulously rich and do not even realize our sudden happiness. Not long ago, in order to read something important, people sometimes went to Moscow to the library, where the book was in one copy. It’s the same with newspapers - it’s not so easy to get a fresh issue of the New York Times in 75 in Uryupinsk. Very, very difficult. More recently, we received all the information from Soviet newspapers with fuzzy photographs. There was also a program "Time", if anyone remembers. And "International Panorama" was also. In the air, hostile voices howled ...

Now the situation has changed dramatically: a person interested in politics (especially knowing a foreign language) can get a cup of information coffee the size of the Pacific Ocean in the morning. Naturally, it is easy to drown in this cup, but today I am not talking about the problems of hickey. Today I'm talking about the contents of this very informational ocean. It would seem, how can you control the ocean? More than three billion users! How do you control them? However, a boundless bridle was found on the boundless waves of the information ocean ...

I will push back from the facts: there is such an unconditionally positive informational reason - the attacks of the Russian Aerospace Forces on ISIS. Finally something absolutely good happened, without any doubt. Ugly terrorists slaughtered people and drove around Toyota pickups with black flags (jeans?), And the valiant pilots of the VKS shortened them. Unlike the Crimea, which was positive only for Russians and their friends, the information guide is good for everyone without exception: the first photo is nasty igilovtsy, the second photo is a punishment from heaven. And the LIH cut everyone and threatened everyone. A kind of "Hollywood" angry aliens (there still grateful earthlings unite around the United States, who heroically stood in the way of intergalactic aggression!). And now you can get acquainted with what is written about it, and as already mentioned, the information is at the click of a mouse.

It is understandable with the foreign press (I mean everyone with the press, all of them are both newspaper and TV people online, if you are not online, you are not at all), the foreign press immediately began to look for sunspots and peaceful citizens among ISIS activists. It was funny to read the comments under these articles - prosperous burghers genuinely wondered why bombing ISIS was bad? Propaganda laid a steep turn, and citizens dizzy. Rather, the turn was so sudden that there was a complete break in the pattern. Previously, this was observed only in the German press, the German press is the most Russophobic in old Europe, and German citizens, of course, do not like Russia, but not so much. Not at all. And for every Russophobic article should be a shaft of bewilderment - what was it? Once again, ordinary Germans do not have any particularly warm feelings towards Russia (no illusions are necessary), but they don’t like such frank propaganda.

By the way, not everything is as good with the Russian information field as we would like: a very powerful “stuffing” of negative material is going on for the same operation in Syria, doubts, fears and even disguised threats are expressed. The electronic press, as we know in Russia, is absolutely free, and journalists and bloggers are crystal honest people and patriots. And yet, there is a very serious information processing of the population. Where does this come from? It’s just that the same characteristic “installations” are imposed through various sources: expensive, dangerous (what are our boys dying for?), ISIS will avenge, China has not supported, we isolate ourselves. Such are the honest, non-living Russian media ... As has already been said, there is simply no third (independent) point of view. Something is wrong with our battlecruisers / free speech. Vice Admiral Beatty was probably just as surprised at the time, looking at the death of Queen Mary.

A funny picture can be seen today in the world media: citizens have been frightening ISIS for a long time, and now they say that the ISIS bombing by Russians is bad. The people are perplexed, but the press continues to be insane, information is presented only in a negative way: civilians suffer, the “democratic opposition” suffers, the blows do not reach the goal ... In general, the abundance of information sources presupposes a variety of points of view, but singular. She's the one, she's the right one.

You understand what the problem is: discussions, like alternative views, are absent in the Western press as a class. They simply do not. Discussions, as well as alternative views, suggest the existence of different ideological positions. This is an absolutely necessary condition for discussions. But in the West has already come “the end stories according to Fukuyama. The liberal model won, finally and irrevocably won. And what do the facts mean without explaining their theory? Therefore, any author in his reasoning repels himself from the “only true” American ideology. This is simply inevitable. How do you imagine a Soviet journalist based in his daily work on “White Guard motives”? How real was it?

Here is about the same thing: any author uses Windows & Office to write their articles (I also use it), and any author uses American ideology to write the same articles (just by default). The computer turns on, and macros are loaded in my head ... Therefore, discussions become completely impossible - our documents simply "do not open" on their personal computers - there are no corresponding programs. This means that their content does not matter. Well, you all know these very macros: democracy, freedom, market economy, universal values ​​... By the way, that is why discussions with “Euro-oriented” (and there are more and more) Ukrainians and Belarusians are absolutely impossible - they already have these macros embedded in their heads. And they will starve to death, while maintaining faith in "Saint Obama and the second coming of democracy."

This, in essence, is a matter of training. The Russians built factories, ports and universities in Eastern Europe. The Anglo-Saxons did much smarter: they invested in the "promotion of democratic values." Which is much cheaper and more efficient. Even the directors and owners of Ukrainian and Belarusian enterprises that had billions of orders from Russia, were culturally and ideologically oriented toward the West. This is exactly the same way. Remember how the situation developed in Ukraine in the field of ideology? Constant sliding towards the West. At the same time, the West practically did not invest in Ukraine, only in the “programs for the development of democracy”. And here you should not laugh, it is necessary to evaluate the effectiveness of ideological work (Soviet political leaders could only dream of it): the economy is falling, the standard of living is falling, the social sphere is falling apart. At the same time, “Western friends” do not render any real help: they “teach to live”, but not “help materially.” But the popularity of Western ideology is growing by leaps and bounds.

The most characteristic from this point of view is the dialogue (or rather, an attempt at dialogue) with a person whose only language is Russian, but whose value system has already been brought to the Western standard. It is impossible to speak precisely for this reason - the same words mean completely different things. As Mr. Lukashenko said: “I don’t understand what the Russian world is.” Clearly, briefly and succinctly. For some reason, we are idealistically based on the rationality of ordinary people, their ability to reason and draw conclusions, unfortunately, this is not so, and all post-Soviet experience proves it. Millions of idiots in the RSFSR rejoiced in the breakup of the Union, after which they found themselves in the tenacious paws of Gaidar and Chubais (and Chubais!). In Central Asia and Transcaucasia, Russians were persecuted, robbed and expelled, after which countries fell into the pre-industrial era. But no one regretted anything; everyone suffered, but did not recognize his own stupidity. Poverty is a trifle, the main thing is freedom (under the whip of new khans, but freedom!).

The people, unfortunately, are easy to fool. Alas, it is. Nationalist mirages did not give anyone any good in the former USSR and killed millions, condemning them to poverty and emigration. But the people believe: the defeat of the Union - it was a step towards freedom. And in the post-Soviet space, it works with a bang. Russia helped Georgia for quite a long time, and the United States simply bought the elite there / took it on a short leash. Now compare: Russia spent billions, and the US is much more modest amounts for specific individuals, the money also remained in American banks (for reliability). Attention, the question: “Who owns Georgia now?”. Yes, the Georgian people at the same time plunged into terrible poverty, but who cares? In any case, not the Georgian elite, and certainly not the United States. The standard of living of an ordinary Georgian in the USSR was very high by Soviet standards and even by Southern European, now there is a third world there. And there are no prospects for Georgia, but the Georgian elites are tightly oriented to the West. That is, our billions in spending politically brought nothing to Russia. I agree, an ordinary Georgian wants to eat (I think this is obvious), he really wants to eat. But there are no political mechanisms for converting this very desire into political dividends for Russia. Georgia is on the “short leash” of the United States, and there is no opportunity to change anything here. They will starve and serve America (and hate the Russian occupiers of Abkhazia!).

Such a funny paradox - often people are no more reasonable than a herd of antelopes. The same Georgians rushed from the Union (which bought their loyalty dearly) to the West in the hope that the US would buy their loyalty even more expensive. Not grown together. Manipulate turned out to be much cheaper. The United States controls Georgia much more closely, and spends pennies on it. Learn, gentlemen! And some spit at the word propaganda, they say it is for suckers. But American leaders do not think so and take propaganda very seriously, they have long understood that one dollar spent on propaganda saves ten dollars for economic assistance. It is important not only and not so much to help (this is how Russians can!), How to tell in detail how good you are (and how bad your opponent is). That's exactly what the Americans are doing: they work with journalists, non-governmental, public organizations, human rights and environmental. The principle of operation is simple: they give money - they order music.

As a result, when discussing any problem, there are two opinions - American and incorrect. Just browse the current press and you will be amazed. There is no third opinion at all. Own opinions left no one. Virtually all "hit the ball, neatly thrown by an American player." The last example - France once again officially declared that the Crimea is occupied. Americans, as it were, demonstrate that Russia has a conflict not with them, but with the whole world, therefore France. France, which has other problems “above the roof” (I started writing this before the last terrorist attacks). But the Americans gently throw the ball, and France thumps on him with all the dope. And Russia responds no less harshly - the islands, "stolen" by France from Madagascar by referendum. Who remembered these unfortunate islands? Even the Madagascar people themselves are almost forgotten. And then suddenly ... France gets under the hand, what can we say about any Georgia?

Generally it is a cycle. Georgia has completed it completely, we see the result: a poor, degraded country with no future, but under American patronage. Ukraine is halfway there: the modern industry is being dismantled, the standard of living has fallen by half in the time after the coup and continues to fall, but the country is under complete US control. Learn, gentlemen! Belarus is at the very beginning of this path. Here it is - American foreign policy. Assess how quickly, cheaply and efficiently they work. “But tens of millions of Ukrainians are suffering,” you will say, and you will be wrong - ordinary people always suffer. It is important not to sympathize with the suffering of others, but to promote your interests. In any case, from the point of view of the Americans. By the way, Ukrainians still love them and still thank them literally for everything.

Russia, at its own expense, created a superpower industry for them, but it had no positive consequences. Understand that helping ordinary people is not politics. It does not give any sane results. Most countries are ruled by weak, deceitful and corrupt national "elites". They are easy enough to buy or intimidate, but it is pointless to “help” them. Russia has spent tens of billions to support jobs in Belarus and Ukraine after the collapse of the USSR, and what is the result? Approximately the same as the result of the help to the Bulgarian “little brothers” at the end of the 19 of the 20th century. That is, this very “help” actually, instead of reciprocal love and support in a difficult moment (as we expect), leads to ever-increasing demands, frank contempt and blackmail in our address. It sounds rather strange, but in fact the way it is. Thus, instead of “helping the brothers”, a rigid system of political control and propaganda is needed, and only in the third place of help as such. It’s hard for a normal person to believe this, but the fact remains that a very effective economic assistance from Russia to its neighbors politically does not give anything. The example of Ukraine clearly demonstrates this. The people who largely lived at the expense of Russia, at the first click of the fingers of the American ambassador, ran to burn the Russian embassy. Now they are hungry and cold ... I sympathize. "Give money and do not interfere in our affairs!" - somewhere we have already heard.

Lukashenko said this way: “I am your best friend, give me money, and I will organize everything.” Money given, did not intervene. As a result, we have a generation of Belarusian youth, for which Russia is a foreign country. And the demands to continue to give money, otherwise the very “nationalists” will intercept the power, which were brought up by the “best friend of Russia” Alexander Rygorych. Just compare the actions of the United States in Georgia and the actions of Russia in Belarus, as well as costs and results. So who, sorry, stupid, and who is smart? Life is quite cynical, and interstate relations can also be assessed by the simplest criterion: return / cost. I do not like? Speak common history, culture? But the Americans do not suffer from such sentiments, and therefore are effective in politics. Yes, they dropped two atomic bombs on Japan, but in the event of a military conflict, the Japanese will be on the side of the United States against Russia or on the side of the United States against China. Politics, alas, has nothing to do with morality.

And one should not revel in one’s own “intellectual superiority”, while Americans take the country’s full control around Russia’s perimeter for “50 Eurocents, a bouquet of scarlet roses and a Hollywood smile”. And stop already giving money to Alexander Rygorych - they spoil it.

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  1. avvg
    avvg 24 November 2015 10: 35
    18
    Americans are not stupid, just every American loves to pretend to be a fool.
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    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 24 November 2015 10: 42
      12
      Quote: avvg
      Americans just pretend to be a fool.

      we call it: "turn on the fool" yes
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 24 November 2015 10: 58
        22
        Answers in the last 2 paragraphs
        Quote: Author
        Lukashenko said just like that: "I am your best friend, give me money, and I will organize everything." They gave money, did not intervene. As a result, we have a generation of Belarusian youth for whom Russia is an openly foreign country. And the demands to continue to give money, otherwise the very “nationalists" who were raised by the "best friend of Russia" Alexander Rygorych will seize power. Just compare the actions of the United States in Georgia and the actions of Russia in Belarus, as well as costs and results. So who, excuse me, is dumb, and who is smart? Life is quite cynical, and interstate relations can also be assessed by the simplest criterion: return / cost. I do not like? Speak, commonality of history, culture? But the Americans do not suffer from such sentiments, and therefore effective in politics. Yes, they dropped two atomic bombs on Japan, but in the event of a military conflict, the Japanese will be on the US side against Russia or on the US side against China. Politics, alas, has nothing to do with morality.

        And one should not revel in one’s own “intellectual superiority”, while Americans take the country’s full control around Russia’s perimeter for “50 Eurocents, a bouquet of scarlet roses and a Hollywood smile”. And stop already giving money to Alexander Rygorych - they spoil it.
        Cynicism, US effectiveness in taming countries does not mean intelligence! And the goodness of Russia does not mean stupidity!
        I agree about xRigorycha, I always say that this cake is also cynical and cunning!
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 24 November 2015 11: 03
          26
          A magnificent instructive article!
          I completely share the opinion of the author! I myself am constantly talking and writing about the same thing.
          It is a pity that not all of our fellow citizens listen to this opinion - but it would be necessary. For this is extremely important not only for our national interests and the national security of Russia, but also for each Russian family individually.
          And American methods of manipulative propaganda are not new. They exist in the world since the priestly times of ancient Egypt. They are methodologically worked out by all kinds of colonialists and invaders to perfection throughout the history of human civilization. To this, the Russians can never and never close their eyes.
          1. _Vladislav_
            _Vladislav_ 24 November 2015 11: 11
            +7
            I disagree with the author exactly, here's this:
            compare the actions of the United States in Georgia and the actions of Russia in Belarus

            I propose to compare the actions of the United States in Canada - be surprised. Are they fundamentally different from actions in Georgia? And the fact that Russia is constantly striving to help its neighbors is normal.

            Ukraine. This is already a cant of Russian foreign policy. After the collapse of the USSR, Russia had no time to deal with the problem of cultivating nationalist values ​​in the CIS.

            But in general, the author is a plus.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 24 November 2015 11: 28
              +8
              _Vladislav_
              the fact that Russia is constantly striving to help its neighbors is normal.
              The desire to help neighbors is, yes, really normal. But you just have to do it with the Mind and those who deserve it! And not to those who are your enemy or traitor!
              Our wise ancestors talked about such a thing that you can’t warm a snake in your bosom, which warmed up on the body of a disinterested rescuer, then it will be mortally stung?
              Were our ancestors wrong ?! They were even very right!
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          2. marna
            marna 24 November 2015 12: 28
            +2
            Quote: Tatiana
            this is extremely important not only for our national interests and the national security of Russia, but also for each Russian family individually.

            I got exactly that feeling from the article.
            But, to our great regret, this is our, so to speak, "national trait" - to feel, sympathize, offer help and, as a result, give money or something other material. In return, get another portion of lyuli from the beneficent and a 180g spread.
            This happens not only in politics, but often in society.
            There is a solution - do not step on your own rake and act not to the detriment of your interests.
            1. Delph
              Delph 24 November 2015 19: 55
              0
              There is no way out, unfortunately. For "not to step on your own rake and act not to the detriment of your interests." In the context of this topic, it means to stop being Russian And to become like those to whom the soul is disgusting. And yet, I believe that good is still a boomerang)))
            2. gladcu2
              gladcu2 24 November 2015 20: 13
              +2
              marna

              To the detriment of one’s own interests one must not concede.

              The author will not refuse logic. Apparently one should observe one's interest, but again, besides the practical need, the ideological should be controlled. I put a plus for you.

              The most important author you missed.

              Russia has preserved, as an empire, its integrity on a fair basis, as a unifying force. The counterweight to the fair is false. And remember, lying is much harder than telling the truth. To lie you need accomplices. Lying also unites.

              Having crossed the threshold of honor, you became different.

              But Russia is in danger, the loss of its existence. So you need to repeat the feat of 1945.

              And a lie will nevertheless be revealed.
          3. Colonel
            Colonel 24 November 2015 12: 49
            +1
            Quote: Tatiana
            A magnificent instructive article!

            Those. you think the conclusion
            Just compare the actions of the United States in Georgia and the actions of Russia in Belarus, as well as costs and results. So who, excuse me, is dumb, and who is smart?
            it is impeccable that they are not really stupid, but ....?
            1. marna
              marna 24 November 2015 13: 14
              +3
              Quote: colonel
              stupid not they, but ....?

              I don’t want to hang labels, but in this particular case we are not in the most advantageous position ... Again we are not investing in "promoting our values" - "the Russian world", but giving loans, you don’t understand what, but most likely to cover our previous credits. At the same time, the dad is constantly flirting with the west, you look from there, you will be able to snatch something. He, of course, is periodically summoned to the "carpet" (here and on the 26th will drive up again), but this somehow little changes his rhetoric. The bet is made specifically for one person, and then what? Well, let's say that he is more or less manageable, and what after him? Unpredictable ..., at least from the outside it looks like this ...
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 24 November 2015 15: 00
                0
                Сlonel
                Quote: Tatiana
                A magnificent instructive article!
                Those. you think the conclusion
                Quote from the article
                Just compare the actions of the United States in Georgia and the actions of Russia in Belarus, as well as costs and results. So who, excuse me, is dumb, and who is smart?
                it is impeccable that they are not really stupid, but ....?
                Cute colonel! Yes, do not cling to the details of the author’s words about the "stupidity" of the actions of one or the other! I perfectly understand you that it is a shame for you to try on the concept of “dumb” and not “smart”. Well, for psychological complacency, replace these concepts: the concept of “smart” with “cunning, insidious”, and the concept of “dumb” with “unsophisticated, honest, non-greedy, generous, merciful”. Has it become easier?
                After all, the whole thing in the article is about fundamental things - about the historical INSUFFICIENCY of the general line of the foreign national policy of Russians (Russians). Is not it?
                And we must pay tribute to the author - he was able to critically and objectively look at the policies of Russians with their supposedly “mysterious” for the West “Russian soul” (and this is generally a vigilant psychological reception-compliment of the invaders that they give to their victim - for predictable profane- natives - so that the natives with pride at the same mental level and remain) in the name of self-preservation of the Russian nation. Moreover, the self-preservation of the Russians - not standing up in the pose of “What are you pleased? Ready for EVERYTHING! ”, And with a sense of self-respect, to be ready to really and adequately reflect any claim of the enemy to his parasitic superiority over himself. Do you, dear colonel, have any objections to this? I think no.
                1. gladcu2
                  gladcu2 24 November 2015 20: 41
                  +1
                  Tatyana

                  You do not write correctly. You propose to stop the confrontation of lies and become with them in type and likeness.

                  The author wrote everything correctly, he did not lie. For this is a plus.

                  Now let's start another logic.

                  What is the truth? This is progress. The laws of development, the laws of nature cannot be fooled.

                  What is a lie? This is a regression. We all know that a merchant can sometimes try to say that 2x2 is somewhere four five. And as a result, you were deceived.

                  Humanity as a whole cannot go into decline. Humanity needs progress. You cannot fool yourself.

                  True and false in different scales.

                  God and Satan. Cross and cross upside down.

                  The eternal struggle.

                  If you are tired, this is not the time to relax. You do not want war, but it will come to you.
                2. Colonel
                  Colonel 24 November 2015 22: 04
                  0
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  historical inconsistency

                  Tatiana, you take on a lot by declaring the policy of Russia on a historical scale untenable. Sorry for the banality, but really the destruction of all sorts of Khanty, Mansi and other Yakuts (people don't be offended) following the example of leveling the Apaches, businessmen, etc. it would be much more effective than the policy pursued by Russia under the tsar and beyond. I agree that there was stupid and unnecessary (in my opinion) support for tribes like the Mumba-Yumba in Africa and South America, but it would not be true to count the same for Belarus and Ukraine, even with all the absurdity of what is happening now. never stood and
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  adequately reflect any claim of the enemy
                  I was ready all my conscious life. But to shoot in the back (as today Turkey) is not ready. The honor of the uniform, you know. Unconventional colonel.
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          5. skeptic31
            skeptic31 24 November 2015 13: 10
            +4
            Everything seems to be correct, but superficially. For some reason, everything is reduced to money. It is understandable now everyone is just talking about them, but. But remember the classics. The famous phrase from O. Henry - "There is the highest sweetness in the world, it is called power." In many of the examples cited by the author, it is not about money; it is about wanting to stay in power. And not only among some individual leaders, although this is immediately evident and immediately evident, but also among the local elites behind them. And they come from the point of view of achieving a specific result, it is logical. Having risen in front of the West, as you please, they provide themselves with both protection from external threats and protection from their own people. For the West, unlike the conscientious of us, deeply .. on what they do with their own people. These are not some prejudices against specific peoples; the West has always behaved like this. And this is his strength. From our point of view, this is the power of darkness. From their point of view, everything that is rational is correct. This is just a business. They have all the business. Politics is also a business.
            Moreover, while in power, the elites may not rely on any individual handouts, although it is not averse to receiving them, but on constant dividends from milking their own people. Occurring sometimes elite showdowns in some countries, this is just because of the greed of individual leaders who begin to take away not only from the people, but also from their own, and this is already punishable.
            Unfortunately, after the 91st year, we stood in front of the West in exactly the same position as other countries. And the fact that other winds blew now, so far causes our neighbors more alarm than hope. It all hurt for them unexpectedly, unreliably, because a significant, if not large, part of our elite is very unhappy that we are getting up off the knees, and therefore dumb.
            1. gladcu2
              gladcu2 24 November 2015 20: 46
              +1
              skeptic31

              You understand that the article is a catch. But you can’t understand what.

              There is no lie in the article. Everything is logical.

              It does not show the price of truth. The truth is the price, this is progress. Lies are regressive.

              This will help you determine your point of view, your position.
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        3. aktanir
          aktanir 24 November 2015 11: 37
          +9
          Americans are far from fools, they are pragmatists to the marrow of bones, their lyrics are in last place, and we have very developed emotions, feelings, concepts, and only then everything else. We are trying to believe in brotherhood, in the word, in the good in man ... we grew up, you know, in the homeland of literature.
          As a nation, the Americans would not have happened if they hadn’t been so damn savvy rogues for whom choosing the right, albeit cynical, decision was once a matter of survival in the Wild West. They have the world so built right now: if you don’t eat, they will eat you. Therefore, with them generally no emotions and very tough to act. Do not concede even a centimeter, until they give way first.
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 24 November 2015 21: 33
            +1
            Actanair

            Americans can be judged or blamed. This is a completely different issue.

            Archimedes, said: "Give me a foothold and I turned the world over"

            Lies need to twist starting from the fulcrum. And if you move it to the side, the lie will reveal itself.

            The Americans entrusted their declaration of human rights to the government. And those, in turn, got the opportunity to dose out these rights.

            If the Americans gave their government a set of obligations, then as a result they would receive the rights dictated by their obligations.

            Common life example.

            Do you pay a home loan? You have a job? You have lost your job and your house for the sake of the bank.

            If you demanded a guarantee of your work, you left a house for yourself and got progress.

            So, drive the filthy broom of those who fight for freedom. First, you will stand in the camp of freedom fighters.

            Changed the point of application of force and ...?
        4. oblako
          oblako 24 November 2015 12: 25
          +5
          For that fought for it and ran. When did you split what you thought? And now why do you think then that individual states cannot have interests other than Russian ones. Lukashenka is pragmatic and observes the interests of his state and will have to take it for granted. How else is it? People are behind him, as well as other leaders of states. His pragmatism suggests that it is possible to preserve one's national identity only with Russia, therefore, no matter what, he is with Russia, albeit in a completely understandable market dialogue. Do we behave differently? We also have tricks with China, with India, Iran and with Israel, when necessary. This behavior is not a reason to offend allies. Themselves once let the dollar to themselves, and with it, and so-called. "market laws", rewrote the constitution for themselves by the hands of amers, agreed with the non-convertibility of the ruble and international trade and free movement of capital (that is, legalized robbery under imposed conditions) and at the same time organized "freedom of speech", and you perfectly understood which word freedom must be ensured, and at what volume to turn it on. They invested a lot in it. Not that we were in our education ... Well, that boiled, if you please have a bite ...
          1. gladcu2
            gladcu2 24 November 2015 21: 54
            0
            oblako

            Lukashenko has obligations. His obligations gave him the right to act. But when he, in his own right, passes the line of lies, he risks getting a regression.

            If you are not pragmatic you are admitting a lie.

            If you are weak you are admitting a lie.

            This law cannot be crossed. Payment will follow sooner or later.
        5. andj61
          andj61 24 November 2015 12: 45
          0
          Quote: Baikonur
          Cynicism, US effectiveness in taming countries does not mean intelligence! And the goodness of Russia does not mean stupidity!
          I agree about xRigorycha, I always say that this cake is also cynical and cunning!

          Likewise, the author does not at all operate with the categories "mind" and "stupidity". He says the same thing: effective means smart; ineffective - stupid, or at least not smart. yes
          And, as you say, it is not peoples and countries that need to be tamed, but a thin layer of the elite of these countries. The United States is doing just that - and very effectively. We need to learn from them in this (there is nothing shameful in this) - cheap, quite simple and with a very good result. hi
          As for Lukashenka, I agree with you. But there is no alternative to it, at least for the interests of Russia. And this is almost 100% - his "merit"!
          Article plus! good
        6. vladek64
          vladek64 24 November 2015 19: 02
          0
          Quote: Baikonur
          Cynicism, US effectiveness in taming countries does not mean intelligence! And the goodness of Russia does not mean stupidity!


          There is no cynicism here. This is an attempt to point out that "smart" does not oppose "dumb".
          The “stupidity” of Russia is not in its “kindness”, but in the fact that it cannot create a “smart” antidote to “stupid” color revolutions. While Russia is making fun of the "stupid" Americans, they are successfully cutting off pieces of the Russian World from Russia and turning them into pieces of the American World.
      2. Good me
        Good me 24 November 2015 10: 58
        +4
        any author uses Windows & Office to write their articles (I also use), and any author uses American ideology to write the same articles (just the default). The computer turns on, and macros are loaded in the head ... Therefore, discussions become completely impossible - our documents simply "do not open" on their staff - there are no corresponding programs. And so their content does not matter. Well, you all know these very macros: democracy, freedom, a market economy, universal values ​​...


        I use LibreOffice, which is in no way inferior in functionality to a heaped product from "microsoft" ones, and at the same time is COMPLETELY FREE, therefore does not violate someone's "ownership" ...
        1. red_october
          red_october 24 November 2015 11: 16
          +3
          + 1.
          So do I.
          And there are no problems with macros.
          And I save - it is necessary in doc., It is necessary - in ODT
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        3. Colonel
          Colonel 24 November 2015 22: 31
          0
          Quote: Good Me
          not inferior in functionality to a heaped product from "microsoft"

          I do not agree, Microsoft Office is much functional both Libre and Open Office, especially when working with tables, but this does not mean at all that you can’t overwhelm the groupführer from the MP 40.
      3. Shveps
        Shveps 24 November 2015 11: 04
        12
        The quote, the quintessence of the article: "Understand, helping ordinary people is not politics. It does not give any sane results."

        The Russian government, many of whose members have been trained in "stupid" America, have long known this.

        - Kum, what is the difference between the untouchables of India and Russia?
        - In India, this is the lower class, and we have the highest.
        1. gladcu2
          gladcu2 24 November 2015 21: 42
          0
          Shveps

          Give ordinary people responsibilities and they will not have to help.

          Take the rights from ordinary people. Give them responsibilities and their rights they will take themselves.

          The truth is where progress is.

          But to deal with lies effectively is through lies. However, the consequences are not known. So
          how nature does not allow duality.
      4. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 24 November 2015 11: 20
        +1
        to the title of the article, come on ??? communicated with them, the mind really does not shine)
        1. atalef
          atalef 24 November 2015 11: 29
          0
          Quote: Sasha 19871987
          to the title of the article, come on ??? communicated with them, the mind really does not shine)

          Strange, then how do they get it all?
          belay
          1. andj61
            andj61 24 November 2015 12: 51
            +1
            Quote: atalef
            Quote: Sasha 19871987
            to the title of the article, come on ??? communicated with them, the mind really does not shine)

            Strange, then how do they get it all?
            belay

            In life, it's called cunning ... mmm ... turned out? Or cunning! What time! bully hi
        2. atalef
          atalef 24 November 2015 11: 29
          -3
          Quote: Sasha 19871987
          to the title of the article, come on ??? communicated with them, the mind really does not shine)

          Strange, then how do they get it all?
          belay
          1. Sasha 19871987
            Sasha 19871987 24 November 2015 12: 22
            0
            Strange, then how do they get it all?
            belay

            the main pro-American bedding would generally be silent, they left on our humps as a result of two world wars ... but America will not stop Rome more))) and at least take pity, I expressed my opinion
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      7. zheka
        zheka 24 November 2015 11: 44
        +2
        Americans are stupid! Zadornov said, and Psaki confirmed)
      8. The lead
        The lead 24 November 2015 11: 51
        -1
        Excellent article. The proposal to establish control over the elite and the termination of economic assistance is all very correct. It is only not enough for success, because control in itself does not give anything if it is not used in our own interests. Does our government have national interests abroad, in what they are about, whether the Kremlin, like the Old Man, believes in a single Russian World, I doubt it very much. For example, we were very lucky, in our hands, President of Ukraine Yanukovych was in full control and that’s nothing. The article also says that in the West there is American truth and wrong. But where is it otherwise? We are cultivating the position that there is true Kremlin and wrong, the same thing. Try to say something contrary to the politics of the party and government, it’ll immediately roll a wave of unfounded criticism, insults, accusations of treason against the homeland will be showered.
        Quote: Oleg Egorov
        No one has their own opinions
        Where does it come from? They shut everyone with their own opinions abroad with us too. One Don Quixote of our Strelkov, how many lies were poured on him, the media turned him into the main enemy of the Motherland, they turned everything upside down. The propaganda rink does its dirty deed, only in our country it’s somehow uncontrollable, it’s traveling in its own way, then it’s going around strangers, in general it’s not clear where and why it’s going.
    3. Sirocco
      Sirocco 24 November 2015 10: 52
      +3
      They have such a policy of pretending to be a fool, nevertheless they are not so stupid, for there would not be a country like the USA if fools were at the helm. Do not underestimate them. When they want, they can bomb and fight.
      Politics, alas, has nothing to do with morality.

      As said A.V. Suvorov. The tile is a rotten egg, you will inadvertently break it, because only one stink.
    4. 79807420129
      79807420129 24 November 2015 10: 53
      12
      Quote: avvg
      Americans just pretend to be a fool.

      They pretend or don't pretend, but they force the weak to lick their boots, which is happening now in Ukraine and Georgia, remember the collapse of the USSR and the damned drunk, everyone shouted then the West will help us, the West is our friend, and you know how it happened, the collapse or The USSR almost destroyed Russia, and it’s just disgusting to watch how humiliating in the servile devotion to the West, Ukraine, Georgia and all sorts of baldasses are, and the old man is sitting on two chairs, there are sad examples.
      1. Denis DV
        Denis DV 24 November 2015 11: 10
        +2
        On my own behalf, I will add that the elites of most countries have no other options, they either take money from Washington and do everything they are told, or they are buried replacing them with others. An eerily "intellectual" process, people were launched into space, and politicians got stuck in the Middle Ages - definitely, the Americans are well-armed tupari hi
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    5. Conductor
      Conductor 24 November 2015 10: 54
      -17 qualifying.
      And what will be the benefits for Belarus from buying it grew. oligarchs? In the current situation, one can see only Russia's desire to crush it under itself and create a barrier from Europe by filling it with its weapons. But instead of smart thoughts, only one by one articles are stamped in the spirit of "sold out to the abamka, they don't want to go to the bottom with us !!!"
      1. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 24 November 2015 11: 20
        +5
        what? not sold? you know, but facts are a very stubborn thing, and ALL things "father" are aimed at "exactly - GIVE MONEY AND THAT? !!!!!" fool
      2. 34 region
        34 region 24 November 2015 11: 29
        +2
        You might think Belarus, falling into the arms of the West, will live well. Of course, the West is for individual freedom. That's just how in the film Wedding in Robin, this freedom of the individual will be freedom of lawlessness. We are for the freedom of the individual! So they will rob.
      3. SVD
        SVD 24 November 2015 11: 30
        +2
        Sell ​​to others - amers, Chinese ... what's the question? And "crushing" Belarus is not cheap for Russia. The West will not spend so much, the article correctly says. And the fact that there is a barrier from the West - so it turns out, or will become a barrier from Russia like the Balts - that's the whole choice.
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    8. Tor5
      Tor5 24 November 2015 11: 01
      +3
      A very reasonable, honest and directional article for our elite! Thanks to the author!
    9. Vend
      Vend 24 November 2015 11: 05
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      Americans are not stupid, just every American loves to pretend to be a fool.

      This is their evolutionary branch developed. Just look at the Hollywood films and compare the products of 70-80's with 2000's. The viewer is clearly numb, and Hollywood is the hostage of the viewer. What does the film industry produce? Dumb and vulgar comedies where the same jokes. Dumb, again, militants when they alone destroy crowds of enemies. Cinemas flooded films about American zombies, a hint of US citizens. In almost every film, villains and traitors are government or police. Sometimes, really awesome movies come out.
    10. Mordan
      Mordan 24 November 2015 11: 11
      -1
      in Syria, the plane fell not far from the border with Turkey, in the territory controlled by the Turkmen, the pilot managed to eject
      1. atalef
        atalef 24 November 2015 11: 16
        -3
        Quote: Mordan
        in Syria, the plane fell not far from the border with Turkey, in the territory controlled by the Turkmen, the pilot managed to eject

        In Syria, a military plane crashed on the border with Turkey. This was reported by the Turkish television channel Habertürk TV on his Twitter. It is specified that the fighter has fallen. It is currently unknown who owns the aircraft.

        The channel showed footage of a burning plane, which is rapidly falling, spinning in the air. Turkmen CNN Turk sources said the pilot ejected - a parachute was allegedly visible.
        1. marna
          marna 24 November 2015 14: 42
          0
          It was not a fighter that fell, but a Sukhoi Su-24 front-line bomber. Was in the airspace of Syria. Already passed the information on the Russian official television channels ((((((((
          Pilots, according to preliminary data, catapulted. Shot down from Turkey.
          We hope that for the pilots everything will end happily.
    11. cergey51046
      cergey51046 24 November 2015 11: 15
      0
      And very successful in this.
    12. cergey51046
      cergey51046 24 November 2015 11: 15
      0
      And very successful in this.
    13. 34 region
      34 region 24 November 2015 11: 18
      +2
      Why are Americans like to pretend to be fools? They like to pretend to be warm, happy, successful, strong, p
      worried
      smart, beautiful. What are Americans really doing? Really promote their interests. How? Yes, through advertising of everything, and especially himself. The advertising business is not so harmless. Through it, the manipulation of consciousness is carried out. I'm not advertising !? Oh well! You can advertise not only chewing gum. Lifestyle, country. The author described everything very accurately. The question is, why did he describe it? Our leadership diligently rejects ideology, considering it a flaw and a legacy of a terrible past to which there will be no return. That's just our media do not think so and carefully bend their line (such as Svanidze, Echo of Moscow). As a result, we have what we have. The example of Ukraine is very revealing.
    14. War and Peace
      War and Peace 24 November 2015 11: 28
      +4
      Americans Not stupid



      it is a product of Western culture, they don’t need anything and are not interested in anything, can this people be called dumb? they are simply LIMITED, although their lack of culture leads to stupidity ...
    15. max702
      max702 24 November 2015 11: 51
      +4
      The author raised a very interesting topic, namely, the relationship between Russia and its neighbors .. But we just need to look a little deeper. namely, on the relationship between the RSFSR and the union republics in the USSR. This is where all the problems grow and the main reason for the collapse of the USSR. namely, a fundamental error in this relationship! How was it? The RSFSR helps everyone (even to the detriment of itself) today so that she can be helped tomorrow. type will appreciate the help and then brotherly help in return .. But history has proven that FIG! No matter how much the Soviet theorists would like, the state is still perceived as a metropolis and colonies. and accordingly, when the colonies begin to live better than the metropolis, then they have nothing to strive for. there is nothing more to work for (the metropolis will give everything anyway) to raise my educational, scientific and cultural level, as well as a feeling of superiority over other silly Russians I work from dawn to dawn. and they live in poverty (in the USSR they lived the poorest and worst of all in the RSFSR) And the most offensive thing is that they are right! This was and is a systemic error of the USSR. the Russian people could not pull out on their backs the hungry, lazy outskirts of the state, which over time presented more and more reproaches to the center. here the SSR and collapsed .. Some kind of sobering came especially in the Central Asian republics when the population fairly starved and finished off the Soviet legacy rushed to work in Russia .. the same is now happening and ruinda. despite the fact that in Russia there are 5-7 million gaster from the Eurogabon (I don’t believe in the 1.5-2 million Rosstat ..) none of them admits that they live thanks to the hated mos.koly. why? And because the standard of living (thanks to Russia) in the Ukrainians is quite high. and hunger and cold are still very far away. Why is Russia doing practically nothing to remedy the situation (only half measures which are much worse)? It's simple, if with the Central Asian republics at the time of their separation the "elite" of Russia had practically no "affairs and" interests ", then with the ruind, the opposite is true! The level of geshefts, schemes, options. And other interests is enormous and starts from banks (hello Gref) of Gazprom, Rosneft, the military-industrial complex and ends with traders of products and drivers of minibuses in the border areas .. Nobody wants to cut the problem surgically, hoping to somehow purr the problem with sluggish treatment .. Will it work out? I doubt it ...
    16. Col.
      Col. 24 November 2015 12: 09
      +1
      Quote: avvg
      just every American loves to pretend to be a fool.


      Aphorism in the subject. "99% American is XNUMX% idiot." (Bernard Show)
    17. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 24 November 2015 12: 55
      0
      Most countries are ruled by weak, deceitful, and corrupt national "elites." They are easy enough to buy or intimidate, but "helping" them is pointless.

      Thus, instead of “helping the brothers,” a tough system of political control, propaganda, and only in the third turn, help as such is needed.


      Absolutely right! anyone will sell Russia for personal profit. Even some patriots, not to mention non-Russian or Russian liberals. I'm talking about the truckers rally. It is clear that not the 5th column, but why the hell when Putin is waiting for support so that his decisions and decrees are not blocked by parliament, the people do not go to the convocation, and when the liberals personally took them by the scruff of the neck, they immediately yelled? After all, Putin gave instructions not to raise utilities, not to cut social spending, not to raise tax rates on small and medium-sized businesses. Who listens to him in parliament? He can only propose laws, and decisions are made by "people's" deputies. In general, it would be good to start the changes with the constitution. From the abolition of independence from the state of the Central Bank's actions, and the granting of great powers to the president, up to the impossibility of canceling or discussing his decrees.
      1. Max_Bauder
        Max_Bauder 24 November 2015 13: 32
        0
        Here is the confirmation of my words about my own offspring born after the 90s or so, who are already fed by the ideas of the West, who believe that the West has been fighting against us for a long time since the assassination of Paul and the arrival of pro-Western Alexander in his place, that this is all from a series of conspiracy theories schizophrenia and other things. I understand the Jews are fueling and will keep such ideas in the air in any field, media, show business, cinema, football, radio, newspaper, at least on a bench, but why do Russians themselves believe in all this Jewish nonsense? who ruined the Russian empire and nullified the victory in the first world? the Jews! look at the names of the first commissioners, who is now ruining Ukraine? Jews, too, if the Russians have no interest in their own history and culture and the development of their own state, if they don’t bother for it, what can we say about some CIS countries ?!

    18. Skif83
      Skif83 24 November 2015 16: 26
      0
      Well, the bulk of the Americans are dumb, it's undeniable!
      True, this does not speak of our great mind, otherwise we would not have allowed the USSR to be destroyed. We needed maintenance, and we demolished the building ...

      Americans bring to all their rotten democracy, which, in the end, puts everyone in a vassal pose.
      The USSR tried to make friends, because it built, taught, helped.
      And rightly so!
      BUT!
      You need help, you need to teach, you need to build, BUT NOT AT YOUR ACCOUNT!
      First, you had to spend everything on your own, to learn your own, to help all of your own, and then you can also neighbors and friends.
      History teaches that the world respects the strong, and if he is also fair, there are no words.
      But strength is not only in "Calibers", but in good housing, good education, work, healthcare, in a strong economy, in a strong army, etc.
      And when you are strong, this is the best argument.
      Whoever needs it will catch up with you.

      In my opinion, the USSR gave away too much because the so-called. For a long time the "elite" did not hold a shovel in their hands, however, like the present one. Because everything that was created by the people was not appreciated enough by the Kremlin!
      Stalin was right when he wanted to lead the country’s leading professional production workers, and not the party’s idols
      For which he was poisoned.
      But, as they say in Russia, the truth is always stronger than falsehood.
  2. venaya
    venaya 24 November 2015 10: 36
    10
    and with the Russian information field, not everything is as good as we would like

    If the Americans were very stupid, then they would not be able to buy up almost all of our media.
    Most countries are ruled by weak, deceitful, and corrupt national "elites." They are easy enough to buy or intimidate, but "helping" them is pointless.

    So, this is how our inveterate "friends" act - this must always be taken into account, otherwise it will be impossible to avoid countless wars along the perimeter of our country.
  3. Fayth
    Fayth 24 November 2015 10: 38
    13
    Well, that's it. This is sad, the union cost hospitals and enterprises, and then they all bought it cheaply for beads.
  4. Readme
    Readme 24 November 2015 10: 38
    13
    To assess: dumb or dull, you must first restore order at home. So that it’s like a clockwork. So that the state was not offended.
  5. knn54
    knn54 24 November 2015 10: 39
    +3
    An article about "moral orphans" - no shame, no conscience!
  6. horoh
    horoh 24 November 2015 10: 40
    0
    The point is not the stupidity of the Americans, but their shortsightedness. All that they do will sooner or later come back to them very hard !! In principle, judging by the current situation in the world, it has already begun.
  7. apro
    apro 24 November 2015 10: 41
    -2
    In vain he is so about AGLukashenko.
  8. Name
    Name 24 November 2015 10: 42
    +5
    And in the meantime, in the EU, refugees are already sewing up companies themselves ... They are probably disgusted to eat from tolerant hands ....
    1. Bombardier
      Bombardier 24 November 2015 11: 00
      +2
      Looking at it, I thought - damn it is not refugees. I looked at the news - there is an organized group of them there, even the look of these people says a lot .. - Well, Europe, you are tolerant.
  9. Monarchist25
    Monarchist25 24 November 2015 10: 42
    +9
    How many times has already been repeated by generals of all stripes - the enemy should not be underestimated. It is better to overestimate it, the most important thing is not to get paranoid. And it's time to forget about the "brother" principle with the governments of other states.
    1. vladnn2015
      vladnn2015 24 November 2015 12: 16
      0
      Quote: Monarchist25
      the "brother" principle with the governments of other states

      There should be no such principle in Russian politics at all. Only the principle "Beneficial for Russia".
  10. aszzz888
    aszzz888 24 November 2015 10: 43
    +2
    Well, how can one not recall the famous phrases of M. Zadorny about the abilities and mental focus of the merikatos.
    And if they are actually so stupid, then what will you take from the patient? laughing
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 24 November 2015 11: 23
      0
      Quote: aszzz888
      what take from the patient?

      HERE TO TAKE IT NEEDS VERY MUCH! ON THE FULL PROGRAM, SO AS IT IS AT THE NEAREST REVIEW, IT turns out that we are stupid! negative
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 24 November 2015 10: 44
    11
    when discussing any problem, there are two opinions - American and wrong

    And it turns out that in our country some media outlets expressing a very correct opinion (pro-American) feel at ease, and some are financed by state-owned companies. The Americans may not be fools, but it turns out that we are, since we ourselves are growing the anti-Russian growth, supporting "liberalism" hostile to us.
    1. berkut9737
      berkut9737 24 November 2015 11: 32
      +1
      And it turns out that in our country some media outlets expressing a very correct opinion (pro-American) feel at ease, and some are financed by state-owned companies. The Americans may not be fools, but it turns out that we are, since we ourselves are growing the anti-Russian growth, supporting "liberalism" hostile to us.

      Constitution of the Russian Federation
      Article 29
      5. Freedom of the media is guaranteed. Censorship is prohibited.
      1. Alex77
        Alex77 24 November 2015 14: 48
        0
        And what does censorship have to do with it? You can stifle it gently and gently in a financial embrace.
  12. Turkir
    Turkir 24 November 2015 10: 51
    +5
    The article has the correct accents. Deserves attention.
    -----
    To my surprise, the thoughtless admins of some Russian sites contribute to the placement of Russophobic materials.
    Just look at http://vsluh.net/4051-kak-mazepa-spas-rossiyu.html
    The article is taken from the Ukrainian site, where homegrown ukrohistorik carries pseudo-historical nonsense.
    Who is this publication for? It is unlikely that she appeared by chance.
    And there are many such examples. All this leads to the destruction of culture, which includes the knowledge of one's own language, and not the "Russian-American" jargon, which feeble-minded subjects like to flaunt, and, of course, knowledge of their own, Russian History.
    Little Russian born, they still have to become.
  13. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 24 November 2015 10: 56
    0
    In general, some kind of nonsense! The people probably deserve their fortune, and buying stupidly everyone in a row is immoral for Russia! We definitely should not be like this principle, and America’s success in this field is very doubtful! In fact, they are not there, except for chaos. And say the gop has not yet jumped. Everything has its own story and the history of America will end with it bought.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 24 November 2015 11: 49
      0
      And what is the chaos? To make a neighbor a homeless person and take everything for free from him or cheaply is not chaos. This is a subtle calculation! Given that you are no longer a competitor to the homeless as a worker, you become the most working, capable, and rich!
    2. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 24 November 2015 12: 05
      +3
      I strongly disagree with you and I can argue about
      Quote: dchegrinec
      and America’s success in this field is very doubtful

      very tangible and can be touched with your hand! but our successes in the international arena are not impressive at all. those "friends" that we had during the Soviet era pulled sharply to the west, and somehow I do not see the queues at our embassies for obtaining citizenship of our country (except for Russian-speaking citizens of the former republics of the USSR, and even they have a BIG hemorrhoids when obtaining our citizenship) ... so let's look at things realistically and assess the actions of our government based on realities, and not from phobias and dreams.
      Quote: dchegrinec
      buying stupidly all in a row is immoral for Russia

      why buy? you just need to do business, and not shout slogans about "fraternal" peoples! you believe, but these mantras about peoples who are hard to live and need to help them are already beginning to enrage me personally! Why a hangover should I have a headache about what kind of kaklah and others, if in Russia, in order to cure a child, they announce an all-Russian fundraiser, since the state does not have money for treatment! Why should I be sick with my soul about "... and other Greeks" (Quote from the famous poem by V.V. Mayakovsky) when my problems in the country are above the roof ?! today, in order to supply gas to the house, it is necessary to pay a bribe (otherwise how to call these levies from Gazprom) in the amount of 150 thousand rubles or more!
      maybe it’s enough to be silent and it’s time to ask questions to our elected representatives in the State Duma, (I’m sorry I can’t name this body!) which successfully bribe precisely those bills that were aimed at improving the life of the state! In my opinion, it’s time to ask the government’s economic bloc why, having such potential, we are in a deep excuse for ass, and why the legitimate thieves are not in prison, but are painting and serving their sentences in a comfortable apartment in the center of Moscow ?! give you an example? or do you know yourself, and have not forgotten about Mr. Taburetkin’s professional profile? what and that Mr. Taburetkin, being the Minister of Defense, signed documents without looking and without asking questions like "I trust the professional work of my subordinates" !? fool Well, answer legally for ALL the things that were done under your leadership! angry
  14. Decathlon
    Decathlon 24 November 2015 10: 56
    +4
    "... But the popularity of Western ideology is growing by leaps and bounds ..."
    And, you do not let her grow, at least within the limits of her own family-cell of society! Judging by my sons: there was a period of admiration for the West, then analysis followed, and finally it was time for a sober, not sweeping assessment of what was happening. I definitely credit myself with moral supervision: without shouting, without ideological clichés, using the method of joint pastime and detailed discussion of the parties' positions. In general, I "imprisoned" the children "for myself" and happiness and honor came to me: I am the ideal father !!!
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 24 November 2015 12: 27
      +1
      Quote: Decathlon
      "... But the popularity of Western ideology is growing by leaps and bounds ..."

      There is sooooo historical bike about Socrates and the cabaret:
      the owner of the drinking and lecherous institution Godo told Socrates at the meeting: - And young people go to me more often and more than to your Filisofsky school ...
      To which Socrates replied: - Your "institution" is under the mountain, and my school is ON the mountain! Going down is always easier than going up to heights ...
  15. Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 24 November 2015 10: 57
    +4
    So, read it. I get it. All is correct.
    And what to do?
    DO NOT give money? So they don’t ask me about it.
    And if asked, I would know how to answer.
    ....
    There is nothing to blame for the mirror, if the face is crooked - when it is still said, under Tsar Gorokh.
    The elites are Georgian, Uzbek, Azerbaijani, Estonian, Lithuanian, Belarusian.
    Ay-ah, what a bad one.
    Is our elite better?
    One to one - the same Mushrooms and the rest of the Toomas from TurdaMurdyKurbanoglu-ob-Ugly.
    .
    The bloody terror of Gabney, which began after the revolution. And that’s why it began - in order to multiply these very elites by zero.
    Then, under Stalin - as soon as someone began to become "smoother" than the rest - instantly found himself where in general everyone was under the same ruler.
    .
    Well done Americans, they do not bother with equality and justice, they row and level themselves.
    But you can't live on lies and meanness for a long time.
    Sooner or later, but will come - "... a Russian revolt, senseless and merciless."
    So I see.
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 24 November 2015 12: 08
      +1
      but with you brother you are mine I agree to all 1000% good
  16. V.ic
    V.ic 24 November 2015 10: 58
    +1
    instead of “helping brothers” na strict system of political control, propaganda, and only in the third turn, assistance as such is needed. Author Oleg Egorov

    I fully agree with the author. I have already spoken on this topic in the commentary to the article on November 20, 2015 / "The Syrian Ambassador in Moscow:" Any actions of foreign forces in Syria without the consent of official Damascus and outside the coalition with the Russian Federation are considered acts of aggression ", namely: Today they are friends, while Russia helps them, and the day after tomorrow, when the foreign policy situation has changed, it is possible to get a spit from a former friend forever. The Austrians under Nicholas 1, the Bulgarians at Nicolae 2nd Chinese under Stalin ... Who is next? Understand correctly, comrade officers, I do not cry out for those peoples, but the top leadership. It’s just another, well, very good person once again said very correct words, but how many of those words have already been spoken ... And things are still there. The conclusion, similar to the above, then did not begin to formulate, since this would be off topic. And now I noticed my mistake regarding the Bulgarians = Alexander 2 should have written (just at that moment the thought in my head was about Bulgaria’s participation in the 1st MV).
    1. Military Builder
      Military Builder 24 November 2015 12: 52
      0
      Who's next?


      only the army and navy, reliable friends of Russia - not I said Alexander III
  17. Million
    Million 24 November 2015 10: 59
    +1
    There are stupid, but in general they are arrogant and unprincipled
  18. A-Sim
    A-Sim 24 November 2015 10: 59
    +1
    About Rygorych - I agree. Spoiled.
  19. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 24 November 2015 11: 00
    -1
    There is an American saying: If you are so smart, why are you so poor?
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 24 November 2015 12: 30
      0
      Quote: McLooka-MacLeod
      There is an American saying: If you are so smart, why are you so poor?

      ... not American - they are rather weak on such occasions! Odessa Jewish humor ... and it sounds somewhat different: if you are so smart, where is your money?
      ... nuance, however ...
    2. ququ
      ququ 24 November 2015 13: 44
      0
      And not everyone wants to be rich. Abundance is God's grace. Excess is God's punishment.

      They have no history, no religion ... one mantra-ideology "America is Better than Everything" ... and the American Dream)))

      Unhappy people.
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  21. gg.na
    gg.na 24 November 2015 11: 01
    0
    Not stupid but morons! bully How can dibilov be called stupid ?! lol
  22. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 24 November 2015 11: 01
    +1
    I am ready to subscribe to every word of this article. Perfectly formulated and conveyed to the reader. And they are touched by colleagues who write here that "the Americans will come back to haunt their policies." Maybe it will backfire, maybe the States will collapse with a crash, and the dollar will fall under the plinth, but will we live to see this? Now they will squeeze Belarus and we are in Khopr! Moreover, from all sides. And then they and Crimea will ask back, and Transnistria, and the restoration of the rights of foreign agents, for the further collapse of Russia - and just try not to let them. The former republics will embrace us from all sides and squeeze us with such brotherly love that we are unlikely to survive it ...
  23. Victor-M
    Victor-M 24 November 2015 11: 01
    -2
    There is not enough concrete conclusion in the article, therefore, its meaning and purpose can be understood in different ways, both for the good and to the detriment of Russia and our people, this is either an increase in propaganda in post-Soviet and other countries (it is a pity that Russia does not have a printing press), or enough feed a neighbor (a complete breakdown of relations with them, except for those that bring financial benefits), or drive a wedge on a Washington order between fraternal peoples. In short, the provocation is unambiguous.
    1. Olezhek
      24 November 2015 11: 11
      +1
      There is a lack of a specific conclusion in the article, so its meaning and purpose


      I do not know how to conquer this galaxy ...
      I would have known would have won and stamped all-galactic dinars ... am
    2. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 24 November 2015 12: 13
      +1
      listen, maybe that's enough about the "fraternal peoples"? you talk to these brothers, talk, and only then and reason! I fully support the statement of Aleksadr II: Russia has only two allies - the army and the navy! "If you provided" international assistance "to the fraternal peoples, you would know why our bases are guarded by elite units when providing such assistance!
  24. Stinger
    Stinger 24 November 2015 11: 02
    -2
    The author is three times right. In my opinion, the theory of the class identity of workers and peasants, left over from Soviet times, is affecting. And the whole thing is in training, as the author correctly noted, and inveterate democrats, and Comrade Stalin.
    1. cergey51046
      cergey51046 24 November 2015 11: 14
      0
      If they say that Russia has stupid bombs, then draw your own conclusions.
    2. cergey51046
      cergey51046 24 November 2015 11: 14
      0
      If they say that Russia has stupid bombs, then draw your own conclusions.
      1. berkut9737
        berkut9737 24 November 2015 11: 40
        0
        If they say that Russia has stupid bombs, then draw your own conclusions.

        The bad thing is not what they say, but the fact that we believe in it.
  25. aba
    aba 24 November 2015 11: 02
    +2
    Yes, there it is: propaganda can only be Soviet and communist, and everything else is freedom and democracy, even if you have to disperse it with batons and water cannons, and in the light of democracy it’s generally done with the help of the national guard.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 24 November 2015 12: 37
      0
      Quote: aba
      Yes, there it is: propaganda can only be Soviet and communist, and everything else is freedom and democracy, even if you have to disperse it with batons and water cannons, and in the light of democracy it’s generally done with the help of the national guard.

      ... our scouts and their spies ... their fighters for freedom and democracy and our occupiers and oppressors ... our corrupt oligarchs-thieves, they are also plunderers of the public domain - and their patrons of all kinds of abstraction, like Malevich or that .. . which nailed eggs to the pavement ... And so on!
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  27. mamont5
    mamont5 24 November 2015 11: 05
    +3
    "Americans. Not stupid"
    And very dumb. Well, cunning ... s.
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 24 November 2015 12: 38
      0
      Quote: mamont5
      "Americans. Not stupid"
      And very dumb. Well, cunning ... s.

      For every tricky one ... there is x .. with a screw ... and a master key!
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  29. Grosser
    Grosser 24 November 2015 11: 11
    +1
    It is strange that the article appeared only now. After all, literate people were aware of this even when they had just begun to ruin the USSR.
  30. cergey51046
    cergey51046 24 November 2015 11: 12
    0
    Judging by their statements about stupid bombs, even dumber.
  31. a-cola
    a-cola 24 November 2015 11: 12
    0
    Apparently the fact is that the richer you are, the more often they take your word for it and the less you have to pay. Russia just needs to become rich. And then people will reach us.
  32. Altona
    Altona 24 November 2015 11: 13
    0
    The article gives the impression of incompleteness, everything is over "don't give money to Alexander Rygorych". The emphasis should have been placed on promoting conservative values ​​and strengthening propaganda in this vein. It is in this capacity that the world still perceives us, and not as builders of free locomotives for third world countries.
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  34. valokordin
    valokordin 24 November 2015 11: 15
    +2
    It seems to me that in relation to Lukashenko we are stepping on the same rake as with Ukraine, and most importantly, Russia has no ideology except money, but here we lose, and with Kazakhstan it is the same. All must be held with a firm hand and not even hostile thoughts be tolerated on their part. To restore order about ourselves in the country and not to forget about the CIS, otherwise we survived that some Gurbanguly took care of our plane flying over the Caspian. Although we did not enter the Turkmen space.
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  36. B.T.V.
    B.T.V. 24 November 2015 11: 16
    +2
    Americans are not stupid. It's just that they are so confident in their "exclusiveness" that they completely lost the instinct of self-preservation, one day (I wanted it to happen earlier) the loss of instinct will play a cruel joke with them. And I would not call a policy, mainly based on blood and human misery, "effective." All this will come back to haunt, the "boomerang law" has not been canceled.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 24 November 2015 11: 29
      0
      "that completely lost the instinct of self-preservation," ////

      Why? They contain the strongest army - this is just
      a vivid manifestation of the instinct of self-preservation.

      Now, if they disarmed, this would be a loss of instinct.
      1. Bashibuzuk
        Bashibuzuk 24 November 2015 11: 48
        +1
        Do not give a damn about their strongest army. Yes, and still need to evaluate it. For me, yours, the Israeli army is much more effective than these Americans.
        America is good, incomparable in another.
        In cheekiness and flexibility.
        In the ability to turn any situation to his advantage.
        In the ability to build reality as they need.
        Only a printing press - for the whole world - and that speaks in their favor.
        And the fact that they recklessly lie, lie, distort, cheat, etc. etc. - well, so where to go, "nothing personal, just business."
        .
        It warms the Russian soul, of course, that we are so conscientious, for justice, peace-peace, war-letter, and, in general, honor-conscience-and-mind of the world, era, and universe.
        But, all the same, in addition to a clear conscience, I also want to have a weighty fist.
        So that Russia is not rinsed by all sorts of Australia and the rest of Paulo.
        and so that its own elite-class rushers would be smaller.
        And you shouldn’t be a beggar.
        .
        Dreams Dreams
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 24 November 2015 12: 10
          +1
          "For me, your Israeli army is much more effective" ////

          Thank you for the compliment, of course, but ...

          Our army is slightly superior in tactics to the American at the "company-battalion" level,
          but inferior at the "brigade" level and above.
          Our tankers are able to shoot better from long distances. Pilots are about the same.
          Our Air Force is more cunning tactically, perhaps.
          The sailors are much more experienced. American artillery at a higher level and
          better connection artillery with infantry.
          Logistics (supply - communication) with the Americans at the highest level.
          1. Olezhek
            24 November 2015 12: 16
            +1
            Americans at the highest level.


            And as it was already noticed by me - the US Army never won a decisive victory over a strong opponent ... lol
            Logistics..that logistics ..
            The fleet — perhaps the American army — is a solid troechnik ...
            Victory Komrad, where victory ??
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 24 November 2015 14: 57
              0
              "The American army is a solid C grade." ////

              Threes, threes, but their tanks on April 12, 1945
              went to the outskirts of Berlin by the Elbe River smile .
              And stopped, as it was strictly
              agreed by Stalin and Roosevelt in Yalta.
              1. Colonel
                Colonel 24 November 2015 22: 15
                0
                Quote: voyaka uh
                went to the outskirts of Berlin

                Where did they go? Where is Elba and where are the surroundings? Take a look at the map.
          2. Bashibuzuk
            Bashibuzuk 24 November 2015 12: 38
            +2
            Where's the brigade for you?
            Have you decided to fight with the whole Arab world?
            The brigade will fit in all of Saudi Arabia.
            I would like to look at the American brigade, instead of your troops, in the Sinai and the Golan Heights, when on the one hand the Egyptians (with our specialists) and on the other the Syrians (with our specialists) would press.
            Something vague doubts torment me that the cries for help would be heard in the Pleiades, even, not to mention the Solar System.
            And as a result, this team would merge.
            But here are yours - they have survived.
            .
            Do not compliment this. Just the facts.
            .
            And why, by the way, you are never invited anywhere - to Afghanistan there, in Iraq, in Mali.
            Neither did you bomb Yugoslavia, nor did you wet ISIS.
            Current busy. And local figures.
            Can not be so.
      2. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 24 November 2015 12: 18
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Why? They contain the strongest army - this is just
        a vivid manifestation of the instinct of self-preservation.


        "Koschey the Immortal" was also sure that his life was safely hidden, but one day ... "not his day" came.
  37. gop
    gop 24 November 2015 11: 17
    0
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4KLn-T6t8I если посмотреть то все выглядит до "наоброт"
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  39. Watchdog
    Watchdog 24 November 2015 11: 21
    +3
    Yes, I agree with the ideology of the article. Americans are not stupid - a fact. I do not belong to the category of putinsilshchikov and all-props, but here is what I think. Missiles are good, VKS is excellent, Putin is well done. BUT, until Russia creates an alternative liberalistic ideology and begins to replicate and broadcast it (actively) into the heads of our brothers and neighbors - we will continue to mess around in this swamp. So I ask you - liberal ideology is quietly flourishing for itself, national socialism here you are, please, in the Baltic states, in Khokhloraich and in Germany even ... and where is the third ideology where is the renewed social democracy? No her! And not the worst ideas were at the core - friendship of peoples, work for the good of society, family - a unit of society - healthy ideas. The game is not bad - played, sorry, disgusting. Well, how they played ... Because all this struggle without ideological support has no real future. We will win this war. Defend Russia. What's next - consumer culture, chewing gum, jeans, chocolate bars. Where is the source of all this? As Sun Tzu used to say, to smash troops primitively, to smash unions — more or less, to smash plans — this is art. What plans are there when the US sanctions us, and on TV Tom Cruise walks around the Kremlin and soaks the guards left and right. And who is dumb?
  40. revnagan
    revnagan 24 November 2015 11: 21
    +6
    I read to the place where the author gave the example of Georgia, and realized that I didn’t understand anything. Let me explain: the author complains that Russia invested billions in the Georgian economy, and the United States bought the country's leadership and voila! Georgia deserted under the stars and stripes "banner of democracy." The respected author probably forgot that the Russian Federation built its relations with Yanukovych in exactly the same way. It was assumed that the lured "elite" would support the pro-Russian course, but what happened. Yanukovych betrayed and fled, and the "Mayaunas" are jumping to Europe. Why so? Why? The citizens of Ukraine fell for the "democratic" cookie, like the last suckers? The answer is simple. The model of the West is more attractive. Why? Both in Russia and in Ukraine, oligarchs rule the ball. People who can do everything for money. Laws against them do not work. There is no such thing in the West (at least, they demonstrate it that way). EU prime ministers ride their bicycles to work. A millionaire can be imprisoned for violation of driving rights. A working person can live with dignity on a wage. For everyone, that's what attracts people. Justice is what a Russian person needs. There have already been articles on this site. Does the Russian world offer such justice? That is the question. If such a proposal is voiced, the West will have no chance with its "democracy." But so far such a proposal, alas, has not been voiced, and the Serdyukovs, Abramovichs and Akhmetovs continue to "rule", it is the Western model of "justice" that will attract people in the absence of an alternative one.
  41. lukke
    lukke 24 November 2015 11: 22
    +4
    As for me, America has not yet passed a serious test of strength. I don't take into account the war between the South and the North, nevertheless, almost two centuries have passed and a lot has changed, but it is also a kind of indicator of some moments. Now I do not want to delve into the "forecasts" of the rationality of the US policy (I personally think that one fine moment they will have to reap what they sow), but I want to say that we ourselves have a fucking experience of building international relations, which it gives us more than one century to exist within our limits, which, excuse me, young America still has to study and study. And out of her 300 years of existence, for only one century she feels like a young man, pumped up with anabolic steroids, and for History it is a bunch. Which may soon disappear ...
    1. 34 region
      34 region 24 November 2015 12: 02
      0
      It is enough that their army passed in other countries. They are no warriors. During hostilities, they will conquer their business and immediately surrender.
    2. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 24 November 2015 12: 18
      -1
      "And out of her 300 years of existence - for only one century she feels like a young man pumped up with anabolic steroids" ////

      And why? New blood is constantly being poured into America. Continuous influx of immigrants from
      all over the world. And among them are the most energetic, the most educated, the most ambitious. Not all, of course, but this group is the very "anabolic" (as you rightly noted).
      Therefore, they have the feeling that they can do anything, we can do anything.
  42. Hiw
    Hiw 24 November 2015 11: 22
    +3
    AMERICANS DULL,, DEBILS, DOWNS, I CAN SUBJECT, VERY LOGIC SUBJECT
    the intellect of a person is not the main decision-making tool for action, the main tool for stimulating a person’s action is his spiritual and emotional component, the mind is the third stage after the spiritual and emotional.
    And if a person is greedy and evil, then he is stupid and narrow-minded. In appearance, such a greedy and evil person can look quite presentable and respectable, he can throw dust in the eyes of those who are the same greedy and evil and may even seem kind, but, as a result, he will fail completely. The foundation of human relationships is built on kindness and love, and if a person does not have it, then he is stupid and poor and no matter how much he tries to hide it, disguising it with clever phrases, fashionable clothes and perfumes, he’s still rotten, he’s still DULL AMERICAN
    but ... not all Americans are stupid, there are good kind people there
  43. nrex
    nrex 24 November 2015 11: 28
    0
    Gentlemen, do not particularly feel sad about the stupidity of Americans. This is so funny. Today it is the best economy in the world! Appel alone with a capitalization of $ 700 billion is worth something. To laugh at them in their stupidity is at least not reasonable. They don’t do what they don’t just like that, they are not Russians with their scope and bare ass. But they began to pretend that they respect Russia (recently) just a diaper is not infinite and has already leaked. Which grandmother wants to die? Russia at the moment has clearly indicated its resolve in the defense initiative. We will be the first to beat! And showed about what. Give GOD the opportunity to continue us in this spirit !!! And yet, there are simply no words when they mention our yesterday’s leaders who are now living in the mattress. So ashamed and sad. You look at their radiant faces on TV and think .. who is the next one THERE?
  44. fa2998
    fa2998 24 November 2015 11: 28
    +1
    Quote: Readme
    To assess: dumb or dull, you must first restore order at home.

    Any power, IN ANY COUNTRY, uses the media in its own interests. Freedom of speech is already an empty place in the West. And in Russia this "freedom of speech" was never born. We have either the media controlled by the government (and fed business partners), or some kind of "opposition" -primed and controlled by the West. THIRD IS NOT GIVEN !.
    Well, for example. There is a story on all channels - some airline company has gone on strike in the "rotten West." They demand higher wages, pensions, better working and rest conditions. How unfortunate and poor they are, the opposite leadership has brought people to protest and shit on passengers. And not a single TV company touched on the details. Their planes are not old, they have a rest in multi-star hotels, and their salary and pension are not small. Even if someone would compare, they receive 100-200 euros., they work like slaves, and the pension is A ducat. There is silence about this. And there is silence on the streets! hi
  45. GUKTU
    GUKTU 24 November 2015 11: 28
    +2
    but Georgian elites are densely oriented to the West.

    Excuse me, but our so-called elite, where is it looking ?????? Similarly, they have a weakness for the dollar and overseas temptations (excesses)
  46. Gardamir
    Gardamir 24 November 2015 11: 29
    +1
    As the author wrote there, the people are impoverished, but the Georgian, Belarusian, Ukrainian elites do not care? Is it not so in Russia? Tomorrow will be the opening of the Yeltsin Center, which Vladimir the Great built in honor of Boris the Great. Or now again someone will tell. what does the president have to do with, what did the State Department build?
  47. Turkir
    Turkir 24 November 2015 11: 29
    +3
    Some commentators ask the question "What to do?"
    The author of the article set himself the modest task of turning our attention to the methods of American foreign policy. And in my opinion, he coped with this task.
    ------------
    From the preface of M.Yu. Lermontov to "The Hero of Our Time" - "It will happen that the disease is indicated, and how to cure it - that's really God knows!"
    By the way, the preface itself (like the book) has not lost its relevance today.
  48. BOB044
    BOB044 24 November 2015 11: 30
    0
    Americans Not stupid
    This is what has already been proven by modern medicine. Or this is the opinion of the Americans themselves. Although looking at people from the State Depa, you do not even need a medical report.
  49. Awaz
    Awaz 24 November 2015 11: 34
    +2
    they are not stupid - they are just pragmatic. They really do not care what they say about them and how they say it. They act only within the limits of their benefit and do not disdain anything to achieve their goals. Explain the mistakes and the shoals of their policies, they send stupid fools like Psaki. and no matter how we laugh at her, the system itself works for them and completely does not pay attention to how this Psaka answers tricky questions from the press.
  50. nrex
    nrex 24 November 2015 11: 38
    +1
    But if we are so smart, why so poor ???