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The junta won back ...

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Can the Bandera-fascist Kiev go on the offensive, and even in the winter? Many authoritative observers believe that this will happen in the near future, and there will be a general attack by the junta, so to speak, the last blitzkrieg in order to defeat the Novorossiysk republics. And the resumption of shelling in Donetsk is a confirmation of this.



Indeed, for this the junta has a lot of internal causes, and the war will write them off. Nazi ideology requires constant victories, Bandera peremog to maintain hysteria in the society, because there are no other achievements and it is not foreseen. When the whole country is intimidated and looking for internal enemies, and in the heads of some embroidered shirts, we need victories on the external front. And although the winter offensive is not a joke and implies heavy losses to the attackers, the junta is ready for it too. For almost a whole year, she had been preparing troops with the help of Euro-American humanists ...

By the way, the main humanist in the person of US Vice President Joe Biden is expected to visit 7 December in Kiev. Maybe the junta wants to give him a long-promised gift? Then, as if it's time to attack, just two weeks left. However, the weekly shelling, the concentration of several thousand Nazi-militants near Donetsk, who, they say, are intended to dispose of them in the direction of the main attack, will never be resolved by a burden. And they will not be resolved, this artillery exacerbation will continue, now flaming up, now fading away, no end in sight for now ... The offensive is not visible either.

Washington ordered this offensive back in August, and he, of course, is interested in him even today: put pressure on Russia in the Donbas so that it backfires in Syria. Well, to break, in the meantime, the Minsk agreements, which Biden personally does not like personally, he himself spoke about this more than once.

Then, in August, this offensive was stopped by Chancellor Merkel, summoning Poroshenko to Berlin and telling him something that the shelling of Donbass stopped completely. Today, after the Paris attacks and the increasing terrorist danger in Germany itself, its position is unlikely to change, except in the direction of tightening the junta.

There were other important changes that put an end to the military ambitions of Bandera neo-fascists.

Probably the most important of them is the demonstration of the military power of Russia in Syria, which made an indelible impression on Europe, and on Washington and his son, the Pentagon. There they began to more clearly understand what might happen in the event of an armed conflict between NATO and Russia in the steppes of Ukraine. Even conventional weapons.

At the G20 summit in Turkey, Western countries changed their tone in relation to Russia, even Russophobic analysts are forced to admit. Later, Obama called Russia in Syria a “constructive partner,” which was recently unthinkable. France, as the hardest hit by the pro-German upheavals in the Middle East, speaks of the need to establish allied relations with Russia.

The “peace party” in Europe has significantly increased, and the “war party” in America has significantly weakened, in these circumstances, the resumption of the conflict in the Donbas is fraught with the most unexpected consequences for the junta.

Secondly, Minsk-2 will soon end on its own on December 31, 2015, in just a month. A military operation is no longer needed to disrupt it, and Russia's provocation to war with Europe is canceled against the background of Russian Syrian demonstration firing aviation и fleet. And the beginning of the presidential campaign in America.

In this new situation, to thwart the Minsk Agreements with a military "peremogy", although more effectively, is too dangerous, even to the next great ambush, instead of a small peremoga. Especially in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, they should understand that the winter offensive is not a pound of raisins, here you can freeze your ears and something else. Renewed shelling, most likely, are intended for domestic Bandera consumption, maintaining a degree of hysteria in society.

1 January junta, apparently, solemnly announced that she did everything she could to fulfill the Minsk Agreement, but Russia prevented, and it is not to blame, and out of these agreements. In response, Moscow will banderovtsam default on the payment of public debt. The West will ignore it, of course, but Moscow may impose additional sanctions on the debtor country. So begin the new 2016 year.

If the junta completely loses its head, and still dares ... I remember that in August in the Crimea, Putin said that he “hopes that it will not come to major clashes.” And in fact, really, it did not come to an end, it ended with several counter artillery strikes, and in November-December, all the more it will not come.

There is an opinion that Ukraine’s Bandera stabilizes in its semi-fascist-poluporoshenkovskom condition, because the West will not abandon it, it will still drag it by its ears, it will not let it drown, because the country is under its external control, that is, a colony. For some reason, it is believed that the West is responsible for those whom he tamed as a young naturalist. Poorly they know Europe and America, especially since Russia expresses displeasure ...

In the world court financial crisis, in fact, the remnants of Ukraine are based on the Soviet legacy, and foreign business will not invest in a country with a rotten neo-Nazi ideology, and even being in the neighborhood of unfriendly Russia. Too dangerous. Now Krayina rests on handouts from the IMF and Washington, they are given to keep her afloat. How long can this go on?

Sooner or later, it will be sent to free floating, and the Nazi Bandera revolution will continue its fire. A revolution always burns to the ground if it is not poured with troops or money from outside. While they are flooded with money, and they are going to throw it in, it will start to burn out before any of the Nazi-Führer comes to power. The threat of a coup is already openly spoken in the administration of Poroshenko, its head Lozhkin.

The collapse of the Bandera Krajina in the maelstrom of economic, social and revolutionary vortexes for Washington is also an option, for the gulf will open on the borders of Russia, and completely free. The western edge of the failure will affect Poland, and the whole of Western Europe, well, nothing can be done. This Russia will be to blame for everything: did not succumb to the provocation of Washington, did not flood the "national Bandera revolution" with troops, although he did everything he could ...
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  1. oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 23 November 2015 06: 47
    +5
    If there is another attack on the DPR, then Russia must help! At least the old "Tochki-U", which can be guaranteed to "calm" the overheated heads of the Natsik.
    1. hedgehog in the fog
      hedgehog in the fog 23 November 2015 06: 51
      +23
      wait and see what to guess ..
      1. Secta haki
        Secta haki 23 November 2015 07: 18
        -25
        when you see it may be so late it will be ...
        1. Senior manager
          Senior manager 23 November 2015 10: 31
          +1
          The President’s foreign policy analytical team works perfectly, there are options for calculating answers. We’ll see.
      2. marlin1203
        marlin1203 23 November 2015 10: 42
        +1
        Already 2 years somehow exist. The mystery of nature ...
      3. CALL.
        CALL. 23 November 2015 11: 22
        +2
        Today, after the Paris attacks and the increasing terrorist danger in Germany itself ...

        Maybe this is a black mark from Fashington with a warning not to yank Potroshenko?
    2. Secta haki
      Secta haki 23 November 2015 07: 21
      -8
      they are going to crush soon near-around the arrival of this joe and the New Year holidays
      1. severniy
        severniy 23 November 2015 09: 24
        +2
        Typos and foggy confused thoughts. It was hard to read and much to argue with. Minusanul ...
    3. Finches
      Finches 23 November 2015 09: 33
      +2
      "Bears" and "White Swans" need help !!!
    4. MATROSKIN-53
      MATROSKIN-53 23 November 2015 10: 19
      +3
      Why old, when there is a lot of new. Indeed, seven troubles - one answer! The stink will still rise to the whole universe. And so. Publish once and AMEN!
    5. washi
      washi 23 November 2015 15: 42
      +2
      Quote: oldseaman1957
      If there is another attack on the DPR, then Russia must help! At least the old "Tochki-U", which can be guaranteed to "calm" the overheated heads of the Natsik.

      In addition to Russia, France and Germany acted as guarantors of the agreement.
      In an attack, ALL THREE countries must send their troops and monitor the implementation of their obligations.
    6. Maz
      Maz 24 November 2015 11: 26
      +2
      First we’ll think, maybe it’s time for the people of the DLNR to want to fight, and not pretend that they want to?
  2. Good cat
    Good cat 23 November 2015 06: 51
    +11
    Well, if that be the case, only banderlogs of the creature are unpredictable, ears in spite of frostbite-the cornerstone of their rotten politics.
  3. Monetniy
    Monetniy 23 November 2015 06: 55
    +13
    There will soon be no one to fight on both sides. How many men were killed because of this stupid wiring
    1. severniy
      severniy 23 November 2015 09: 26
      +2
      Quote: Monetniy
      There will soon be no one to fight on both sides. How many men were killed because of this stupid wiring

      And Someone mowed grannies ...
    2. core
      core 23 November 2015 15: 15
      +1
      difference? why men die from vodka or IDEA. on drogues per year, people perish many times more.
  4. inkass_98
    inkass_98 23 November 2015 07: 03
    +11
    Many reputable observers believe that this will happen in the near future.

    Is it Nesmiyan El-Murid or something? So he showed his longevity a long time ago, he won’t be told not at the table, He’s fit to sit with the Plant in the same office (and then on the neighboring bunks). There will be no junta to fight in the winter. In the summer she didn’t, and in winter she won’t even be.
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 23 November 2015 11: 17
      +4
      Quote: inkass_98
      There will be no junta to fight in the winter. In the summer she didn’t, and in winter she won’t even be.

      Fortune-telling on coffee grounds - it certainly is not grateful, but for a skinny Ukrainian budget to feed and dress the army in winter conditions is no longer even a luxury, this is already fantastic.
      Therefore, they will chase for slaughter and will not blink an eye, with the only difference being that in previous companies, Natsik was placed in the rear of the Armed Forces as detachments, and now, on the contrary, in order to maximize utilize the possessed national head.
      And by the way, when there was Waterloo, such a thing as "Ukrainian" did not exist in nature at all, and therefore Napoleon could not utter this indecency a priori.
      1. nikpwolf
        nikpwolf 23 November 2015 20: 01
        +3
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        And by the way, when there was Waterloo, such a thing as "Ukrainian" did not exist in nature at all, and therefore Napoleon could not utter this indecency a priori.

        Well, here ukrohistoriki easily (somewhere until hoarseness and personalization) argue. This is when the great Ukrainians of the French were not yet. Not, or rather so - the French descendants (worthless or not yet established) ukrov. Proof? But what about the imprint of a dodger next to the trail of a saddled dinosaur? Not? Not that? AND! And the grave of Achilles in a miraculously surviving embroidery? Not? So Napoleon’s father is Ukrainian. Not. Not this way. He himself. Here it is. Learn the story.
      2. liuk gud
        liuk gud 26 November 2015 22: 11
        0
        And yet it is true. I accidentally heard the conversation of the military enlistment office workers in western Ukraine. In January mobilization and offensive will be announced.
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 23 November 2015 13: 11
      +4
      add: as well as a platoon of magnificent Baltic states.
  5. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 23 November 2015 07: 04
    +9
    several thousand Nazi fighters near Donetsk, intended, they say, for disposal them in the direction of the main blow

    Why not. Trying to do something militarily and simultaneously get rid of the burden that Europe is already paying attention to. As they say - two in one.
    1. VIK_1961
      VIK_1961 23 November 2015 17: 44
      +1
      In the very hole! Yarosh has already dumped, like "I - not me - and not mine." The dude clearly holds his nose in the wind (probably not without prompting from those interested).
      Natsik is not needed offal. The GREAT CLEANING of the steppes of Ukraine begins, 1937 will have a rest, because then the country was cleared for an IDEA, and now for a DIGIT, I would say, for a LARGE DAB.
      "Nothing personal is business"
      "I'm sorry that your chestnut broke her leg, but my Bolivar can't stand two", -
      etc. etc.
      All of these Natsiks today is HAY, PASSED THROUGH A COW, and here is the attitude towards them.
  6. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 23 November 2015 07: 08
    0
    words may God be in the ears! In the meantime, tense.
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 23 November 2015 07: 17
    0
    How long can this go on? ..As much as you can ..
  8. Riv
    Riv 23 November 2015 07: 44
    +21
    About "no one will invest" - the author is wrong. It is precisely the economies of countries with pro-fascist regimes that are always provided with the most favored nation treatment. You just need to make good friends with your neighbors. And in the case of Ukraine, there is someone to be friends with and against someone. But the funny thing is that Ukraine is still supported by Russia. By what percentage of their exports fell? At 50 seems? Why not a hundred ??? How many Ukrainians are still sitting on the Russians' necks, pretending to be refugees? Forest, felt boots, saw "Friendship" - and let's go to earn Russian citizenship.
    Only this should be so. Stop bending already.
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 23 November 2015 10: 45
      +11
      "Wood, felt boots, saw" Friendship "..."
      And a quilted jacket, my friend, certainly a quilted jacket.
  9. Neophyte
    Neophyte 23 November 2015 08: 08
    +2
    Elections in the Donbass for Kiev, a chance to start a war with screams of violation of the Minsk agreements! At the same time, get financial help from the Western owners. Moreover, the junta hopes that the Ukrainian Armed Forces will be able to wage war against weapons received from NATO.
  10. NeRTT
    NeRTT 23 November 2015 08: 38
    +3
    Refugees .. refugees .. Here are all these men-refugees from the Square, but to Novorossia to restore the infrastructure on their "native" land, since they do not want peace faster !! Or do they think everything will be over and they will return to their Western Ukraine ?? there they will gut the "Natsik" - say M..ska..yat you and Vatniki already !! soldier
    1. VadimSt
      VadimSt 23 November 2015 14: 00
      +6
      How about Horatio! In terms of - "There is much in the world, friend Horatio, that our sages never dreamed of."
      Only a little less than two years have passed and everyone has already forgotten how everyone sincerely felt sorry for the security officials who suffered on the Maidan, we collected money on the squares for their rehabilitation and assistance to them and their families. Only now, no one asks the question - "Why are bricklayers, miners, taxi drivers and businessmen today in the militia, and most of that" elite "of power structures, the most trained fighters, turned out to be either in Russia, or faithfully serve .. Previously, quite often it was shown how the majority of "professionals" who left for Russia are arranged in the power structures of Russia! And you, about ordinary refugees ...
      I would bring you a lot of digits in order to show the demographic and age component in the Donbass, before the war, as well as the number of its natives, which has been working on a regular basis since 90 and actually lives in Russia, but I do not see the need for this! Shouting from behind a blank fence is easier than climbing on it, looking out and looking at everything with your own eyes.
  11. press officer
    press officer 23 November 2015 08: 39
    -1
    maybe our at least one cruise missile will slightly miss? winked let’s say later, that intelligence reported that it was in this heap (gov..a) that the main ideologist of the IS was sitting out? yes we destroyed him and his gop company .. feel
    it seems to me to show the "non-brothers" who they are and where they will go if they still make us angry .. soldier
    1. DEMENTIY
      DEMENTIY 23 November 2015 09: 02
      0
      Quote: press attache
      we destroyed him and his gop company ...


      And then I woke up!

      laughing

      Dreaming is over. sad
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 23 November 2015 09: 14
        +2
        Quote: DEMENTIY
        Dreaming is over.

        Dreaming is not harmful, it is harmful not to dream!
  12. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 23 November 2015 08: 42
    +4
    To the author plus. There will be no offensive. There is no real concentration of forces and means, no reserves, the BCH has long and firmly dug in and prepared for defense. About the Air Force of Dill - as a deceased - nothing. About the repair of tanks was not heard for a long time. Malyshev factory - repair a few pieces a month - what is it? So do not prepare for the offensive. I am not from a political point of view, I am from a military point of view.
  13. Gray 43
    Gray 43 23 November 2015 09: 02
    +3
    There was infa that the Nazis did not stock up their winter uniforms, but how to fight in such conditions? The problem has not gone away, just like with food
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 23 November 2015 09: 15
      0
      Quote: Gray 43
      There was infa that the Nazis did not stock up their winter uniforms, but how to fight in such conditions?

      What, since 1941 have not been honored? Damn, how many years have been dancing on the same rake ...
  14. Zomanus
    Zomanus 23 November 2015 09: 09
    +2
    Interesting article.
    In general, of course, in terms of the situation with Ukraine, 2016 will be a boundary year.
    The EU agreement comes into force, trade preferences are automatically removed,
    what some mistakenly call an embargo.
    Just trading on a common basis including automatically means
    the introduction of common sanctions for all European countries.
    What else ... Will earn an energy bridge in the Crimea,
    I would like to see the start of the construction of the gas pipeline there too.
    I will not write about default, because the matter is muddy.
    1. askort154
      askort154 23 November 2015 09: 42
      +4
      Zomanus .... I would like to see the beginning of the construction of the gas pipeline there too.

      Crimea has its own gas, they even planned to connect it to the South Stream.
  15. GUKTU
    GUKTU 23 November 2015 09: 11
    +3
    The US wants to achieve an extension of sanctions against the Russian Federation. Most likely it is necessary to wait for a provocation from Ukraine. We will be accused of non-compliance with the Minsk agreements and the sanctions will be extended.
  16. Sharikov
    Sharikov 23 November 2015 09: 40
    +1
    They think about it too ...
    1. askort154
      askort154 23 November 2015 11: 12
      +4
      Wow, it took Karasev 2 years to understand where Ukraine was heading. A blind man, not a political expert.
      1. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 23 November 2015 13: 59
        +4
        ..... A blind man, not a political expert ....

        ... Babayan will take part in a talk show for another half a year - he will see clearly .... laughing
  17. Sheikh
    Sheikh 23 November 2015 09: 40
    0
    Quote: oldseaman1957
    If there is another attack on the DPR, then Russia must help! At least the old "Tochki-U", which can be guaranteed to "calm" the overheated heads of the Natsik.


    it was necessary to help with electronic warfare and protection from shelling cities (as if only to ensure the security of the West European observers of the OSCE and in agreement with them and with the leaders of Germany and France), the hope remains that this has been done.
  18. Stena
    Stena 23 November 2015 09: 41
    +3
    In order to successfully advance, you need accurate information about your forces and the forces of the enemy. About the APU data are LDNR and eyewitnesses. There is a concentration of forces in the Armed Forces. About the number of LDNR troops is not known for sure - nothing. Therefore, talking about the superiority of the Armed Forces - at the moment is impossible. And you can’t talk about the exact onset of one side or another. Or its absence. We do not know why the Headphones are concentrated. Maybe they want to attack, maybe they are afraid, maybe something else. There is no exact data - there is only speculation and speculation. Dear author! If possible, write in your articles all the same quantitative justifications for your assumptions. It will be not only interesting, but also very believable.
  19. delvin-fil
    delvin-fil 23 November 2015 09: 41
    -1
    Moscow may apply additional sanctions to the debtor country. Thus begins the new 2016 year.

    But what about the trade embargo on Ukraine starting on January 1, 2016? To where additional!
  20. drags33
    drags33 23 November 2015 11: 47
    +6
    For the Nazi dill, it will end like this! And it will be fair ...
  21. VP
    VP 23 November 2015 12: 03
    +2
    The resumed shelling, most likely, is intended for internal Bandera consumption, maintaining the degree of hysteria in society.
    -------
    Yah. The public does not even know about them, it is unlikely that the media report "today they quietly fired on there and in the morning there"
    The shelling is a way to provoke HP and blame the breakdown of Minsk on them by untying its paws in front of Europe.
  22. raketnik
    raketnik 23 November 2015 12: 56
    +1
    I’ll attack myself on FABERGE ---- don’t hi m.o.s.c.a.l.i.k.
  23. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 23 November 2015 12: 59
    +4
    For me, they are unlikely to dare to launch an offensive.
    But I think that again there will be shelling of the DNI, unfortunately.
    1. aba
      aba 24 November 2015 02: 16
      0
      For me, they are unlikely to dare to launch an offensive.

      I agree that they themselves are unlikely to dare ... It depends on what the owners want from them, so they do not care, because this does not happen on the border of Texas and Oklahoma.
  24. mvg
    mvg 23 November 2015 13: 14
    +6
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    To the author plus. There will be no offensive. There is no real concentration of forces and means, no reserves, the BCH has long and firmly dug in and prepared for defense. About the Air Force of Dill - as a deceased - nothing. About the repair of tanks was not heard for a long time. Malyshev factory - repair a few pieces a month - what is it? So do not prepare for the offensive. I am not from a political point of view, I am from a military point of view.

    90 thousand grouping, about 500 tanks, 2500 armored vehicles. Thousands of artillery barrels, MLRS .. "About the Dill Air Force" - there was recently an article on VO, with photographs .. and so, the deceased, rather alive than dead .. "About the repair of tanks" - from the same series .. a bunch of photos in the internet, and from factories, and echelons ..
    Total: It’s better to overstep than not to overtake .. There are big doubts that LDNR can resist without our help .. Fighting from sitting idle doesn’t get any better, part of the militia went to Syria .. Yes, and the armored fist, the yellow-black ones noble .. These are the Slavs, they also learned to fight !, they are not Papuans, and not even Araps, who, after 4.5 years of war, did not learn a damn thing.
    PS: It's a little scary, as if under NG the ukrofashists arranged a "holiday"
  25. mvg
    mvg 23 November 2015 13: 16
    +2
    oldseaman1957 RU Today, 06:47 AM
    If there is another attack on the DPR, then Russia must help! At least the old "Tochki-U", which can be guaranteed to "calm" the overheated heads of the Natsik.

    It’s not necessary to get up so early to write such nonsense ..
  26. Support
    Support 23 November 2015 13: 42
    +1
    Find at least one igilovets and you can blame dill for supporting terrorism ..... well, and all the ensuing consequences from here, according to article 51
  27. ironmaniac
    ironmaniac 23 November 2015 13: 49
    0
    If the military units of the ukrovermaht are not subordinate to Poroshenko and fire at the peaceful neighborhoods of Donbass, then these are terrorists! And if it’s terrorists, then it’s possible to fight them according to the Syrian scenario! According to the accumulation of ukrovermacht equipment, hit Caliber, and Donbass militias will clean them from the ground!
    1. kepmor
      kepmor 23 November 2015 23: 12
      0
      Yes, what a mulberry "Caliber" -nadosia with a vigorous bomb-business!
      Dear, if the KRBD is shot at tanks, then we will not have enough "gold reserves".
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  28. Eltempo23rus
    Eltempo23rus 23 November 2015 15: 47
    +1
    There will be no offensive in the near future. They are now slowly shooting. And in the summer they will trample, there will be a lull, followed by a total offensive along the entire front line.
  29. AleBors
    AleBors 23 November 2015 16: 24
    +1
    Yes .. I have already commented on another article. Neither plus nor minus. This is the author’s point of view, quite justified. I believe that the APU will begin the offensive. I guess that after NG. The active phase will last 5-8 days. Then again positional battles and negotiations. To the heat. And there is unknown. Maybe in Keva the power will change, or maybe something else will happen .. Ukraine is so changeable .. request
  30. Belousov
    Belousov 23 November 2015 16: 57
    +1
    Alas, the junta was not won. More precisely, their owners, who are strongly interested in stirring up a conflict, did not win back. So we are waiting for the winter exacerbation.
  31. 123321
    123321 23 November 2015 18: 06
    +3
    Winter aggravation
  32. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 23 November 2015 19: 00
    +1
    I’m also thinking about everything, since there was talk of an offensive, of a general battle ... Why looking at the winter?
  33. tank64rus
    tank64rus 23 November 2015 20: 27
    +2
    As the State Department says so, they will do it, and the rest of the people, equipment, people, country, they do not care for a long time. Well, they’ll put another thousand, another cyborg with a hundred different tanks will lose. Along the way, they will destroy everything that was rebuilt in the Donbass, thousands more of their former fellow citizens will be killed and that’s all. But the American ambassador once again pats on the shoulder. Oh, Kay, everything is going as it should.
  34. fisherman2
    fisherman2 23 November 2015 21: 06
    0
    Quote: inkass_98
    In the summer I didn’t, and in the winter I won’t even be

    There will definitely be a unique opportunity for Poroshenko to get rid of benderlog = BOILER. Or he will be devoured from the inside.
  35. gammipapa
    gammipapa 23 November 2015 23: 10
    0
    Ukrainian owners do not like just one thing, well, Poroshenko does not pull on the Fuhrer, it’s too small.
    Money and promises will certainly support and will support. If they supported Hitler as much as he could if he moved to the USSR, then pushing 40 million Ukrainians into the massacre is simply heavenly manna, it’s not some civilized Germans, it’s not at all a pity. This is just a win-win option and it costs money to invest in it from the west, without options.
    The hitch is only in the indecision of a parashenka, most likely he already got a bunch of ultimatums there, but he lathers like ours.
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  37. a housewife
    a housewife 24 November 2015 00: 18
    0
    Yeah! 14 = 41, the defense of Moscow, New Russia. 15 = 42, retreat, calm, Stalingrad,? 16 = 43, Kursk, Orel, the beginning of the offensive, Mariupol, Nikolaev, Kharkov, etc. 17 = 44, continue the offensive. 18 = 45, take Berlin, Kiev, then Prague, Lviv. 2nd front. Then Nuremberg? ? So what? what
  38. Sedoy_greek
    Sedoy_greek 24 November 2015 00: 59
    0
    Most likely they will climb on the rampage - urgently need a valiant effort, otherwise the junta cranes !!! fool
  39. Wolka
    Wolka 24 November 2015 05: 54
    0
    Kiev pro-fascist junta has changed tactics, now they shit in the small hands of Bandera scumbags, they say it’s not us, it’s them, but they don’t obey us ...
  40. demidov.evg
    demidov.evg 24 November 2015 06: 34
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    Judging by Yatsenyuk's donkey stubbornness, Ukraine's default in December is becoming more and more expected. In theory, the US or the EU or, say, the IMF could provide financial guarantees for the restructuring of Ukrainian debt on the terms proposed by Putin. But something is doubtful that they will go for it ... Although it may still be. We must wait for November 30 - the next meeting of the IMF Board of Directors. If they do not recognize the debt to Ukraine on the part of Russia as "private" (hence, they recognize it as a state debt), then there is a hope that the US will "turn on the brain" and, accordingly, "turn on the brain" of the Prime Minister of Ukraine. And for such a decision by the IMF leadership there are sufficient grounds, if the IMF follows the lead of the representatives of the United States, then this structure will cease to be taken seriously in the world, and endlessly supplying money to the current Ukrainian regime without the slightest hope of returning debts is also, by no means, included in the plans at least the majority of members of this financial institution.
    But even regardless of the IMF’s decision on November 30, in the event of a lawsuit filed by the Russian Federation, the British court, in whose jurisdiction this issue is, will simply have to decide in favor of Russia and oblige Ukraine to pay the debt in full. A different court decision will automatically mean that now any country may not pay its debts, i.e. this will mean an almost instant collapse of the entire international financial system. Exceptions specifically for Ukraine in the framework of the English case law cannot be made. So Ukraine will have to pay the debt of Russia in any case. And best of all, if the Americans paid for Ukraine. The United States has little choice - either default of Ukraine in December, or give financial guarantees and pay money for Ukraine.
  41. Khripunov
    Khripunov 24 November 2015 06: 39
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    "And the resumption of the shelling of Donetsk is confirmation of this" \ vryatli normal strategist blitzkrieg so advertised.