Turkish airplanes attacked the PKK positions on both sides of the border with Iraq

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On Saturday, the Turkish Air Force attacked objects of the Kurdistan Workers' Party, located in south-eastern Turkey and northern Iraq, reports RIA News Post Ministry of Defense of the country.



“In the course of the air strikes, pre-set targets were destroyed - shelters and warehouses with weapons belonging to the separatist terrorist organization (PKK) in the areas of Zap, Avashin, Hakurk and Kandil in Northern Iraq. The same targets were hit as a result of the air operation in Sirnak. ”, Says the release.

The situation in Turkey is extremely aggravated after the terrorist attack committed by the terrorists of IG 20 July and a series of murders in the border areas of the Turkish police and military organized by the PKK. Over the last month of 4, Kurdish militants have shot down more than 160 of law enforcement officers and civilians.
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  1. +50
    22 November 2015 11: 01
    The Iraqis need to call the TURKISH ambassador to the carpet and give him an enema injection .... the Turks are completely inactive.
    Kurds are bombed in Syria and Iraq and nothing .... no scandal in the media and ERDOGAN still threatens us because the air forces destroy terrorists in Syria at the request of its own government .... double standards.
    1. +17
      22 November 2015 11: 05
      The call was accepted by Erdogan .... hi Then do not be offended by the Turks!
      1. +29
        22 November 2015 11: 27
        The Americans pulled the strings beautifully, so they apparently patted the Turks on the back, saying, let’s Erdoganchik act, we’re there if ....., but the scum itself is not outside, like! The East is burning, and they only need this, dogs !!!
        1. +3
          22 November 2015 11: 50
          Quote: Bone
          The Americans pulled the strings beautifully, so they apparently patted the Turks on the back, saying, let’s Erdoganchik act, we’re there if ....., but the scum itself is not outside, like! The East is burning, and they only need this, dogs !!!


          The USA is troubled specifically by both yours and ours, because the Kurds can be very offended.
        2. +2
          22 November 2015 19: 30
          Quote: Bone
          The Americans pull the strings nicely, that’s why they patted the Turks on the back, let’s act Erdoganchik, we’re there if ....

          This is just what confuses!
          The Americans currently support the Kurds, and Erdogan inflicts air strikes on them.
          Where is the logic?
          Or do they warm everyone, against everyone with the goal of drawing Turkey into a full-scale war?
      2. +6
        22 November 2015 11: 42
        Quote: MIKHAN
        The call was accepted by Erdogan .... hi Then do not be offended by the Turks!


        Interesting. Ukrainians sell all MANPADS ????????? In the sense of Kurds, what can fall?
        1. +3
          22 November 2015 11: 49
          Quote: meriem1
          Quote: MIKHAN
          The call was accepted by Erdogan .... hi Then do not be offended by the Turks!


          Interesting. Ukrainians sell all MANPADS ????????? In the sense of Kurds, what can fall?

          Everyone, they’re just afraid to buy from them ... Russia will be soaked right away! Kurds know. hi
          1. 0
            22 November 2015 18: 54
            and she already wet someone, we are very soft, we only have time to wipe ourselves off from spitting.
      3. +1
        22 November 2015 14: 41
        And that you took MIKHAN! Keyboard fighter as you can see!
        1. +9
          22 November 2015 15: 16
          Quote: ayyildiz
          And that you took MIKHAN! Keyboard fighter as you can see!

          laughing I usually write from the heart ...! hi Tomorrow I’m going for heart surgery ... Glory to Russia! I'll be back...
          1. -1
            22 November 2015 15: 20
            YES, YES! P ... t, don’t break the bags!
          2. +4
            22 November 2015 17: 36
            I wish you health, everything will be fine.
      4. 0
        22 November 2015 18: 52
        You are naive people ... ???
    2. BAT
      +12
      22 November 2015 11: 08
      Well, right off the tongue. Is it time to call the Turkish ambassador on the carpet. this is why Turkish aviation bombing territories of sovereign Iraq. Or was there a formal request? Is it too much Erdogan began to take over. And not too many Turks began to imagine about themselves? Of course, I understand that they are members of the Nata and allies of overseas penguins. But it only seems to me that no one will fit in for them, should something unforeseen happen.
    3. +8
      22 November 2015 11: 15
      In my opinion, the Turks jumped! They will soon have so many problems that they will soon give up all their strength to save the side! And Syria will not worry them much, they have crossed this red line, now everything will start as an adult.
      1. -17
        22 November 2015 11: 37
        -Well, it's just you so "brave" ... -And in fact, no one and nothing will "do" Erdogan and is not even going to "do" ... -Russia was cursing before the Turks ... -so continues to curry favor ... -Yes, and ... a joint gas pipeline with Turkey is going to be laid ... so that later to depend on Turkey even more ...
        -And all these "formidable wishes" that, they say, we will now "show this Turkey, we will now ..." ... and so on ... are all from a series of ... "good hopes." .. -But the reality, unfortunately, looks completely different ...
        1. +4
          22 November 2015 12: 13
          lonovila (2) RU Today, 11:37 AM

          ... they say, we will now "show this Turkey, we will now ..." ... and so on ...


          They will show themselves. Europe showed? In a circle of enemies to produce themselves ... No. Yes, and the Amers do not really need it, if only we do nasty things (block the strait, we will get it from the Caspian or the Baltic), and with the gas pipeline, so if we win in Syria, they will build it at our own expense. Iran will say its word, they also do not need this bodyag. hi
          1. -4
            22 November 2015 12: 57
            -Yes, Iran is just ... -doesn't live up to the hopes of Russia ... -Iran is shaking now ... -as if the Americans would not impose their sanctions against it again ... -And only pretends to support Syria. .. -But Iran has a rather strong and professional army, which has a lot of combat experience .., just she knows how to fight against such a rabble as ISIS ... -Is army of Iran cannot be compared in terms of power with the army of Syria (Iran is an order of magnitude stronger) ... -Who did Iran send to fight in Syria ..? -Very "modest" small contingent ... Where are the real Iranian troops., Artillery, tanks .., but the same military aviation ..? -And Iran sent only a small detachment of "guards of the Islamic revolution" ... -And that's all ... -Yes, even the Kurds make a more significant contribution to the fight against ISIS ...
            -I understand that I have spoken out before ... -not in that "laudatory euphoria" that reigns on the forum .., but I absolutely do not care about the minuses .. that empty-headed contemplators of the forum so willingly blurt out ...
            1. +4
              22 November 2015 13: 19
              I absolutely do not care about the cons


              Do not be offended, a matter of habit drinks Of course, things are not so simple with Iran, but they understand that they need to be with us, what to become Iraq. request
              1. 0
                22 November 2015 14: 11
                -Yes, it's just ... stupidity and narrow-mindedness ... gets it ... -Probably during the war ... that's because of such and such a lot of people die, like soldiers .. who fight side by side with them. ., that the civilian population ... -Stupidity is not so harmless .., as it seems at first glance ... -I already noticed a long time ago ... -And on the forum ... -so immediately "all this" is simple striking ...
                -Yes, with Iran ... -It's not so simple ... -It's understandable .. as well as the fact that if Iran helped Syria "for real" .., this ISIS would have suffered defeat long ago. ..
                -But Iran wants to sit on "two chairs" ... -began to curry favor with the Americans ... -And if the war in Syria drags on ... Iran can easily go over to the "side of the Americans" ... -Iran is not the same what was before ...
            2. -1
              22 November 2015 17: 09
              Auntie, or maybe even a grandmother, and so rude, she cut everyone under the empty-headed, or maybe you are a little bald yourself .. just don’t be offended .. love !!!
              1. 0
                24 November 2015 18: 10
                -Hey .., play357 .... climb out ..., from under the couch ... -Do not want to say anything .., wise guy ... -You are a bastard, play357 ..., kiss Erdogan .... in ..., ...
        2. -12
          22 November 2015 13: 04
          -Hey .., minus players ... -Think just a little ... -before stupidly blurt out your minuses ... -Or the brains are already completely "diluted" with beer ..?
          1. +8
            22 November 2015 13: 26
            lonovila-y
            Sir, temper your youthful maximalism. No one owes you anything: neither forum users, nor Iranians. And more careful with saliva ... Splashes. hi
            1. 0
              22 November 2015 17: 11
              So there is no sir, there madam-mistress ..))) !!!
          2. -4
            22 November 2015 14: 40
            Quote: lonovila
            -Think a little ... -Before stupidly blot out your minuses ...

            yes without thinking - the morons see a negative rating and press minus automatically
        3. 0
          22 November 2015 14: 09
          It is not Russia that "fawns" on Turkostan, but the Russian gas oligarch ...
        4. +3
          22 November 2015 14: 11
          Quote: lonovila
          unfortunately, it looks very different ...

          Yes, you sho? ... No later than yesterday such a fawning happened.
          Something stagnant trousers, not erased for a long time, from your broadcasts stole?

          On Courage, a person who has lived in Turkey for some time comments on the screams of the Turks about today's operation of the SAA and VKS in the area of ​​Jabal Turkmen (Latakia).
          http://wikimapia.org/#lang=ru&lat=35.826843&lon=36.043911&z=15&m=b
          "These that on the video say that there was a landing from helicopters, and that they were captured by a landing force, then only subdivisions approached," Türkmen Dağı Bayır Bucak'ta "- that's how the place is called in Turkish, if translated into Russian, like a Turkman mountain outer edge.

          Also this one that in the tunic of Kama cries a mole-Orada çok sayıda şehidimiz var. Orada deprem oluyormuş gibi bombardıman yapılıyor.-There are a lot of our martyrs. There is such a bombardment that the earthquake rests. They dragged on shorter so that they forgot to collect the martyrs, left to rot ...
          There they covered the Tu-22M3 with a flock of Turkish homosexuals (not vacationers, but a gang from Turkey), and many - hundreds. Together with the village of Turkomans (which, between us, must be destroyed in the same way as bandyukov - rare pid..ry, worse only gypsies, probably). Well, they howl for peaceful protestors, women and others. etc. "
          http://glav.su/forum/5-military/2237/offset/19560/
        5. msd
          0
          22 November 2015 14: 19
          Russia has been fawning over the Turks ... -so it continues to fawning ... -Also ... a joint gas pipeline with Turkey is going to be laid .. so that later on even more from Turkey

          one branch will be built - for the needs of Turkey.
          And another question, who will depend on whom!
    4. +4
      22 November 2015 11: 19
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Kurds are bombed in both Syria and Iraq and nothing


      It is already possible (and we have the right!) To conduct a small experiment, but we do not have any delivery routes: to put a small "Russian bubble" over the Kurds in Syria and see how the Turks will stick into it.
      After that, we can safely assume that the Kurds will definitely become our allies.
    5. +16
      22 November 2015 11: 19
      It seems that Erdogan’s oil industry is burning from the igil, mattresses and Erdogan want to get control over the Syrian and Iraqi borders, and then the Kurds have to destroy them, Erdogan, under the guise of fighting the igil, is not embarrassed to bomb them, and staff members like allies only Peshmerga, and then, as it had been repeatedly done before, they will marry and leave, and will continue to do business with cheap Igilov oil.
    6. +5
      22 November 2015 11: 37
      And at the same time, Erdogan often meets with GDP and communicates quite friendly. lol
      Personally, unlike other site visitors, our relationship with Turkey is completely unclear. On the one hand, Erdogan publicly threatens us with his fist, and then he comes to Moscow to open a mosque and talks to the GDP in a friendly manner. Tightens the Turkish stream, but thanks to this we sign the Nord Stream 2, after the Germans were afraid to depend on the Turks. The igil helps, but this week pro-Turkish formations that would not take a step without the Ankara’s sign recaptured several ig from the IG. It threatens a rupture of economic ties, but at the same time, Russia is Turkey’s number 1 trading partner. The Kurds are bombing, but thanks to this, the Kurds began to cooperate with Assad and no longer speak about the independence of the Syrian Kurdistan, but only about autonomy. And many other points that do not allow to rank Erdogan among friends or enemies of Russia.
      In general, we will see, but personally it seems to us that Erdogan is at least not an enemy to us. wink
      1. +2
        22 November 2015 12: 29
        Many write that the Turks "warmed up" and treated the terrorists who fought against us in Chechnya, now the same Turks buy oil from Daesh, i.e. sponsoring this terrorist organization, it is possible that they are being treated again or covered up by the same terrorists.

        Now, what I don’t understand is that ours are going to rest in Turkey, leaving money there that can be used for .... Just don’t write that it’s cheap, that's why they go.
        1. +4
          22 November 2015 15: 16
          Quote: armata37
          Now, what I don’t understand is that ours are going to rest in Turkey, leaving money there that can be used for .... Just don’t write that it’s cheap, that's why they go.

          Difficult topic of course, Denis. And to reduce it only to cheapness will probably be too simplistic. I will express a subjective point of view. In my opinion, people with little savings on vacation in Turkey saw and felt something that is not on the same Black Sea coast of the Caucasus. With the relative "cheapness", the level of service in Turkish resorts could not be compared with the Krasnodar Territory. And our people are not spoiled by attention, therefore, having felt the comfort on themselves once, in the same Divnomorsk (a resort village in Gelendzhik), it does not pull absolutely. And there is no anti-patriotism in this, there is a banal rip-off in the Caucasus, without any real service, and for the same money, but with all the conveniences, and even a big role is played by the feeling of being a human being, and not an object of profit as in the Black Sea coast.
          Excuse me, colleagues, if someone my opinion caused a surge of indignation, but this is my opinion. hi
          PS For two years already, as a departure, they covered up for me, before that I traveled to Antalya for four years, since there have never been waters on our coast for these two years, and it does not pull. I live in 120 km. from the sea.
          1. +3
            22 November 2015 18: 11
            Vladimir, thanks for the answer. You, those who live 120 km from the sea, of course, know better. I live a lot further. I have not been to Turkey, I heard from friends. That's right you say - the service is there on top.
            In the end, it all comes down to one thing - you need to do no worse for yourself, then they will not go anywhere or will, but this will already be a matter of taste, not the quality of service and its cost. hi
            1. 0
              22 November 2015 18: 24
              Quote: armata37
              In the end, it all comes down to one thing - you need to do no worse for yourself, then they will not go anywhere or will, but this will already be a matter of taste, not the quality of service and its cost.


              Well said, colleague. In general, I’ll add something and nothing, but I’m already over 50, and I’m absolutely sure that I’m sure to wait for what you are talking about. There is little hope. hi
      2. BAT
        0
        22 November 2015 18: 38
        Maybe Erdogan "is at least not an enemy to us," but not a friend either. this is the most dangerous thing. At the most crucial moment, he can substitute a leg or, even worse, hit in the back. Than to have such partners (not friends), so let it be better to be listed as enemies at least.
    7. +3
      22 November 2015 12: 36
      It means to strike an air strike on foreign territory - this is normal. And if terrorists are destroyed near your borders, then there is reason for hysteria. I thought that, basically, in Ukraine, the leadership of the leadership is on one’s brain and rudeness is over the top. But no, I was mistaken ...
      Will the Turkish ambassador in Iraq come to the reception with his carpet?
      1. +1
        22 November 2015 15: 01
        Quote: Reserve officer
        And if terrorists are destroyed near your borders, then there is reason for tantrum

        There, bombs fell on the Turkish villages, where many civilians died. Therefore, Turkey was shocked, or rather Turkish society. Volunteers are gathering in the Turkic countries to send there. Turkey could not remain silent when the Turkic community looks at them.
        And the Turkmens of Syria are against Assad and against the Kurds and against Ishil. And ALL bomb them.

        I understand the patriot of his country, etc. But the VKS can smear or bomb not only Isil.
    8. 0
      22 November 2015 13: 51
      We would also not be in danger of weakening Turkey, or at the very least, achieving a state of its accommodatingness and respect for our interests. We will not do tricks, but we must pull the levers and mechanisms of international law and the UN. Kurds also need help now. Americans work closely with them, but American agreements are American, and we need to choose our cooperation and here we can show some model of finding Kurds in another state with expanded rights using the example of Syria after putting things in order. In general, whatever one may say, Syria needs to be strengthened and led into a serious player in this region with the most combat-ready and seasoned army. So that later we will not be distracted by all sorts of Qatar, the United Arab Emirates, Turkey and so on, when we will have graters with Phashington partners)
    9. -4
      22 November 2015 14: 45
      Russia destroyed the Turkmen villages! Which have nothing to do with Daesh! Where women and children live!
      1. +2
        22 November 2015 16: 50
        You were there, they were shooting everything, but the film in the iPhone is over ... sadness!
    10. 0
      22 November 2015 21: 54
      Turkey is bombing a type of US allies. That's where the double standards are.
  2. +1
    22 November 2015 11: 04
    What they want is what they do, not like ours.
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  3. +2
    22 November 2015 11: 06
    It seems that the threats of the Americans are beginning to come true, it will be a very protracted conflict made by the hands of the US allies. Each in this struggle pursues its own goals. Although as far as I do not observe the situation in the region, I come to only one conclusion - all participating countries put their own at stake in this war independence, and the Americans are only advisers. Turkey and Saudi Arabia have already set their independence, if another 2-3, maximum 6 months, there is no change in the policies of these states, they will disappear. And the Americans will only be glad, their influence in the new states will increase exponentially.
    1. +2
      22 November 2015 11: 28
      Quote: APASUS
      Turkey and Saudi Arabia have already at stake

      Herein lies the Syrian danger for us: If an autonomous Kurdish region is built in Syria, then this is nothing, it will be relatively loyal to the Syrian authorities. But if it will be Greater Kurdistan (mainly Iraqi Kurds under the influence of the Yankees, then this will be a big headache for Russia, greatly depreciating our very possible victory in Syria.
      1. 0
        22 November 2015 11: 49
        Quote: hydrox
        Quote: APASUS
        Turkey and Saudi Arabia have already at stake

        Herein lies the Syrian danger for us: If an autonomous Kurdish region is built in Syria, then this is nothing, it will be relatively loyal to the Syrian authorities. But if it will be Greater Kurdistan (mainly Iraqi Kurds under the influence of the Yankees, then this will be a big headache for Russia, greatly depreciating our very possible victory in Syria.

        Kurdistan has only one goal - the independence of the Kurds and the construction of the state. I think they can be agreed, but ISIS contrasts itself not only with European values, but also with the Muslim world. Attempting to replace faith is a very dangerous thing, here the struggle against an ideology that has no borders
        1. +3
          22 November 2015 12: 12
          Everything is clear with DAISH, our hands are untied here, but the Kurds are practically no different from the Afghans in their patrimonial system, and history has shown that the external long-term influence on them is practically zero and if they do anything today that suits us, then tomorrow they can easily start doing things that will run counter to our geopolitical interests.
          In the case of the Taliban, the Yankees are bogged down.
          1. +1
            22 November 2015 12: 23
            You + for writing Daesh, and not the IG, for the first is true, but at the expense of the second, that it is the ISLAMIC and even the STATE I would argue
            1. 0
              22 November 2015 13: 06
              Quote: armata37
              You + for writing Daesh, and not the IG, for the first is true, but at the expense of the second, that it is the ISLAMIC and even the STATE I would argue

              It's the same thing, Daesh in Arabic Isil.
              1. +1
                22 November 2015 18: 06
                But only here was an article and many agreed that Daesh and ISIS are different for the Ishilovites themselves and the first is not pleasant to them. So why will I call the enemy the way he likes? DAISH means DAISH. If one of them sets fire to something, it will be even better, let them fade.
  4. +3
    22 November 2015 11: 07
    The situation in Turkey has become extremely aggravated after the terrorist act committed by ISIS terrorists on July 20 and a series of killings in the border areas of Turkish police and military organized by the PKK.

    So all the same, because of a terrorist attack by ISIS or because of clashes in border areas? ISIS conscience attack and Kurds need to be attacked. Strange logic. Turks more and more confirm, almost openly, that their child is blood.
  5. +3
    22 November 2015 11: 08
    Amazing indifference or indifference due to complicity and double play of coalition countries led by the USA! Everyone is messing around in his pants like perverts. Some of them are delivering quietly to someone, others are bombing someone wherever they want, right there they go to Russia that they are bombing the wrong people. and you don’t know anything and don’t agree! This rat-dog is certainly not to the liking of a normal Russian man. Turkey stirs up water ..
    1. 0
      22 November 2015 16: 55
      Their coalition is united and succeeded in one thing - in pouring mud on Russia ...
  6. +7
    22 November 2015 11: 08
    ABOUT! One more masochists !!! Gas is not necessary, tourists are tired ??? Eric, are you a crest? fool
    1. 0
      22 November 2015 11: 19
      Eric, are you a crest?

      about them..."Muslim BROTHER "! angry
  7. +6
    22 November 2015 11: 10
    It seems that in the region, borders no longer exist. Everyone flies where they want, as they want, when they want and bomb anyone. They are only afraid of appearing over Syria, and that is thanks to our troops. Enrages already the contemplation of these results of the long-term efforts of the mattress.
    1. +2
      22 November 2015 11: 29
      Quote: stock buildbat
      It seems that in the region, borders no longer exist.

      It is interesting when the heavenly "swallows" will fly into the SA and Qatar. It's time.
  8. +4
    22 November 2015 11: 11
    Well, correctly, Ilyich said what
    The Turks bomb only the Kurds, especially since the IG supplies them with the oil industry what
    But still, take Constantinople, achoa, I’ll go. With the Spaniards, at the expense of the Bosphorus would still, they, on a drunk and not do that drinks soldier
    1. +2
      22 November 2015 11: 31
      About the Spaniards, not for Gibraltar by accident, wanted?
      1. 0
        22 November 2015 14: 13
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        About the Spaniards, not for Gibraltar by accident, wanted?

        About him, again I got these straits, I’m sorry, the Bosphorus is under the Turks, thank you for correcting drinks hi
  9. +3
    22 November 2015 11: 16
    it is well known that the Kurds, including those in Turkey, have been accusing Ankara for over a year that the Turks are using the Islamic State group to carry out the “Kurdish genocide” ("Military Materials")
    If the Turks cannot figure out who the enemy is, then how will they figure out who the friend is ?! Where is their politics, where is the fundamental principle of politics: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend"? Or "friendship" with the amerikosov demolishes the tower?
    1. 0
      22 November 2015 11: 25
      their enemy is the RPK. their friend is dpk. they understand local affairs many times better than the “specialists” from our foreign ministry.
      1. 0
        22 November 2015 12: 16
        Quote: traveler
        they understand local affairs many times better than the “specialists” from our foreign ministry.

        Well, yes, with your support! It is of course ... / Are you absolutely by chance not the "officer's daughter"?
        1. +2
          22 November 2015 13: 39
          Quote: V.ic
          Quote: traveler
          they understand local affairs many times better than the “specialists” from our foreign ministry.

          Well, yes, with your support! It is of course ... / Are you absolutely by chance not the "officer's daughter"?
        2. +1
          22 November 2015 16: 52
          with the officer’s daughter, an unsuccessful call, if not for the comments below, I would not understand at all.
          in fact, Turks have been living in this region for 1000 years, for them all the local ethno-tribal and religious-Tariqi nuances are not Chinese letters, but the everyday reality in which they exist.
          and our specialists in BV are graduates of the past with some knowledge of Arabic or Persian, for them all this is alien, dark forest. and for GDP so a black box.
          Our public political experts with TV - 9 out of 10 Armenians. Satan seems to understand more or less something, but again from his Jewish point of view (I am without negativity).
          therefore, the Turks know what they are doing, and we think we know.
      2. 0
        22 November 2015 13: 41
        Quote: traveler
        their enemy is the RPK. their friend is dpk. they understand local affairs many times better than the “specialists” from our foreign ministry.

        And who is KDP? belay
        1. +1
          22 November 2015 13: 49
          Quote: Hello
          Quote: traveler
          their enemy is the RPK. their friend is dpk. they understand local affairs many times better than the “specialists” from our foreign ministry.

          And who is KDP? belay

          KDP is the Kurdistan Democratic Party - the party of Barzani in Iraq, only the Turks with it, too, to put it mildly, not very ... request hi
          1. 0
            22 November 2015 16: 28
            Quote: andj61
            KDP is the Kurdistan Democratic Party - the party of Barzani in Iraq, only the Turks with it, too, to put it mildly, not very ...

            Why? As far as I know, the Turks maintain equal relations with the barzanists request
            1. 0
              22 November 2015 16: 40
              as far as I know, a barzani and Erdogan have generally friendly relations (and most likely a common business), and the PKK as a whole is oriented towards Turkey and almost helps to catch RPK soldiers on its territory.
  10. hartlend
    +2
    22 November 2015 11: 19
    After all, you can accept Iraq’s appeal to Russia for help in the fight against IS. At least temporarily and along the Turkish border.
    1. 0
      22 November 2015 11: 49
      Iraq has already turned to Russia for help, but after the Americans threatened the Iraqi government with a finger, the entire Iraqi government changed its mind. Now let's see what happens next.
      1. +1
        22 November 2015 12: 16
        Quote: Belarus
        then the whole Iraqi government changed its mind.


        They did not change their minds, they "thought", but they left us an open sky, and thanks for that.
  11. +2
    22 November 2015 11: 19
    Ottomans are already afraid to climb into Syria and this is so far pleasing.
  12. +4
    22 November 2015 11: 20
    Turkey is subject to liquidation.
    Our Bosphorus!
    Constantinople is a Russian city.
    1. +1
      22 November 2015 12: 18
      Quote: Arno
      Constantinople is a Russian city.

      Name the times of the reign of the Russian "Emperor Constantine", if this does not bother you, of course.
      1. 0
        22 November 2015 13: 53
        Quote: V.ic
        Quote: Arno
        Constantinople is a Russian city.

        Name the times of the reign of the Russian "Emperor Constantine", if this does not bother you, of course.

        What for? Why this Roman emperor, who also lived 17 centuries ago? And the city was the goal of the Russian Empire for 200 years - apparently, this is enough to make it a Russian city! bully wink
        1. 0
          22 November 2015 16: 14
          Quote: andj61
          Why this Roman emperor, who also lived 17 centuries ago?

          Well, then it’s not Russian by nationality! Already, thank God, have touched the origins!
          Would it not be difficult for you, dear, to set forth a translation from the old / new Greek word Constantinople into the current Russian language (your point of view, of course)?
          Quote: andj61
          And the city was the goal of the Russian Empire for 200 years - apparently, this is enough to make it a Russian city!

          Ekaterina Alekseevna (Anhalt-zerbstkaya), Nikolai Pavlovich (her grandson) and Pavel Nikolayevich Milyukov (not their relative) would undoubtedly applaud you if they had such an opportunity, but the history of the subjunctive mood does not have (unfortunately), and in the short term Tsar- there will be no Russian city, except in the books of Vasily Dmitrievich Zvyagintsev.
      2. 0
        22 November 2015 19: 31
        Quote: V.ic
        Quote: Arno
        Constantinople is a Russian city.

        Name the times of the reign of the Russian "Emperor Constantine", if this does not bother you, of course.

        Why not be in the future?

        He is at least not Turkish. The Turks captured him in the process of expansion into the eastern Mediterranean.

        Kiev before the campaign of Prince Oleg in 882 was also not part of a single state of Ancient Russia. Nevertheless, the statehood of the eastern glades was subject to liquidation, Kiev became ours. In 907 he went to Constantinople, but there was no annexation and the next transfer of the capital, only the shield was nailed to the gate.

        The same is with Crimea and with all other conquests and expansion not only of Russia, but of all the states of the world.
        1. 0
          23 November 2015 06: 24
          Quote: Dagen
          He is at least not Turkish.

          Oh li feel ? Five hundred years (since 1453) as Turkish.
    2. 0
      22 November 2015 13: 09
      -Perfectly..!!!!!
  13. +3
    22 November 2015 11: 23
    Everything mixed up in the Danish kingdom - Turkey - an ally of the United States; USA helps Iraqi Kurds; Turkey is bombing these Kurds. laughing

    It is called "coalition"? belay
    1. +2
      22 November 2015 12: 00
      Quote: Gormengast

      It is called "coalition"? belay

      It's called a brothel,
      1. +2
        22 November 2015 12: 19
        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        It's called a brothel,

        This is called: "brothel" in a Turkish brothel.
      2. +2
        22 November 2015 12: 24
        Quote: Kos_kalinki9
        Quote: Gormengast

        It is called "coalition"? belay

        It's called a brothel,



        This is what the United States actually seeks, their task is the war of all with everyone.
  14. +1
    22 November 2015 11: 24
    Can the Iraqis sell EW funds, then let them try to fly ..
  15. +3
    22 November 2015 11: 36
    Until the Kurds unite, they will be "bred" like rabbits. These are good, these are bad, these are allies, and these are almost terrorists. The Turks cannot forget their "great past", the ghost of the Sublime Port does not let them sleep. It remains to advise more often to remember Suvorov and Ushakov, and even Skobelev. Promotes sobriety of thought ...
  16. 0
    22 November 2015 11: 37
    I think that the Turks did not have long to be two-faced creatures, since the stinky gayropeyts began to understand who sent the refugees to them.
  17. 0
    22 November 2015 11: 43
    The Turks became members of NATO from the very first expansion - since 1952. And they are the outpost of NATO in the Middle East. From here and ears grow ...
  18. +1
    22 November 2015 11: 45
    In my opinion, it would be Assad’s strong move to provide the Kurds with autonomy, at least on the basis of the integrity of Syria. Yes, Assad could supply MANPADS and other air defense systems to Kurds, but as many people understand, this will cause a chain reaction of deliveries of air defense systems to Syria from different (Qatar, SA, Turkey) countries. And it doesn’t matter if air defense means from the Kurds come from they (the air defense squad) will. This will immediately blame Syria and the Russian Federation. So the Kurds in this regard can only be sympathized with and wish to better hide everything and hide themselves.
    1. +1
      22 November 2015 13: 58
      Quote: Belarus
      In my opinion, it would be Assad’s strong move to provide the Kurds with autonomy, at least on the basis of the integrity of Syria.

      This move could be strong if Assad - even along with the Kurds - would support more than half of the population. And so they accuse him of trading in the territorial integrity of the country.
      But the worst is the other: the PKK was really engaged, and, perhaps, is now engaged in terror. Therefore, the question will again be in the same vein: which terrorists are good and which are bad!
  19. 0
    22 November 2015 11: 50
    Quote: sichevik
    not too many Turks began to imagine about themselves? Of course, I understand that they are members of the Nata and allies of overseas penguins. But it only seems to me that no one will fit in for them, should something unforeseen happen.

    Your "fears" are justified - even the EU does not take Turks because of their venality (ie "independent policy")
  20. +2
    22 November 2015 11: 57
    In vain is he ...
  21. +1
    22 November 2015 12: 21
    Oh, and Kurdish tears pour out to the Turks, only then let them not howl on the crescent.
    1. +2
      22 November 2015 12: 26
      Quote: V.ic
      Oh, and Kurdish tears pour out to the Turks, only then let them not howl on the crescent.

      hi We support the Kurds! They deserve autonomy! hi
      1. 0
        22 November 2015 16: 18
        hi We support the Kurds! They deserve autonomy! hi[/ Quote]
        Little support! And then you are offended that the Turks support the Caucasus
        1. +1
          22 November 2015 17: 09
          [quote = ayyildiz]hi We support the Kurds! They deserve autonomy! hi[/ Quote]
          Little support! And then you are offended that the Turks support the Caucasus [/ quote]
          Well, this is only the beginning ... We need to do everything subtly! hi
        2. win
          +2
          22 November 2015 21: 35
          UN ... Need it or do not need it ?!
          Where is the lie? Try to figure it out
          Where is the cunning?
          If needed, tell me why.
          I do not see the state of the Kurds?
  22. +1
    22 November 2015 12: 34
    Turks against the general backdrop of the rise in the fight against international terrorism are solving their selfish, local tasks!
  23. +1
    22 November 2015 12: 45
    Turks played something
  24. +1
    22 November 2015 12: 59
    at everyone in present Syria has its own war. Under the guise of fighting terror, the Turks are attacking the PKK. In peacetime they would receive world condemnation, but now they can. {So they think}.
  25. +1
    22 November 2015 13: 06
    Quote: V.ic
    Quote: Arno
    Constantinople is a Russian city.

    Name the times of the reign of the Russian "Emperor Constantine", if this does not bother you, of course.


    Well, the historical opuses have begun! In fact, this city was founded in the 7th century BC, as the Greek graying of Byzantium. And the city acquired the name in honor of the Emperor of the Roman Empire, Constantine the Great, who rebuilt it and in the 330 year transferred the capital of the Roman Empire there.
    In commemoration of his victory in 907 over the Greeks, Novgorod Prince Oleg nailed his shield at the city gates, which is sung in the Song of the Thing Oleg, the Slavs called this city Tsaregrad. And so who only did not conquer the city. So a very dramatic story in Istanbul.
    But judging by the logic of the current Ukrainian government and by analogy with the history of the Ukrainian fronts, Poroshenko and Yatsenyuk will first of all aspire to Istanbul. According to one version, Prince Oleg is Kiev, for present-day Ukraine this is an argument.
  26. +1
    22 November 2015 13: 06
    Where does such hatred for the Kurds come from? The peshmerga in return will make the Turks "goat's face." The Turks shouldn't have started all this ...
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  28. -12
    22 November 2015 13: 30
    You saw oil money and became aggressive, you were taken from Ukraine and Crimea, the war in Donbas in Ukraine, but crude oil fell $ 40 and went to war with Syria to raise oil prices. Assad is a dictator; Assad the founder of ISIS everyone knows this. ISIS and Assad are fighting each other. Assad, the wound of silt will fall late, and Russia will lose. Oil will fall $ 30. And Russia will be an obedient child))). You saw a little money, and became Don Carleone the Sicilian mafia. We saw how you lost the Chechen war. 140 million against 2 million. We know how you won the Second World War, Iranian tactics 10 to 1. We know that in the time of the USSR he founded the PKK. Remember the Afghanistan war as lost. Simple world knows your abilities - ordinary people
    1. +5
      22 November 2015 13: 34
      Quote: molotov
      Assad the founder of ISIS everyone knows this.

      And I am the queen of Sheba. fool
      Quote: molotov
      You saw oil money and became aggressive, you were taken from Ukraine and Crimea, the war in Donbas in Ukraine, but crude oil fell $ 40 and went to war with Syria to raise oil prices. Assad is a dictator; Assad the founder of ISIS everyone knows this. ISIS and Assad are fighting her. Assad, the wound of silt will fall late, and Russia will lose. Oil will fall $ 30. And Russia will be an obedient child))). You saw a little money, and became Don Carleone the Sicilian mafia. We saw how you lost the Chechen war. 140 million against 2 million. We know how you won the Second World War, Iranian tactics 10 to 1. We know that in the time of the USSR he founded the PKK. Remember the Afghanistan war as lost. Simple world knows your abilities - ordinary people

      Dull stuffing fellow
      1. +2
        22 November 2015 14: 00
        Quote: Hello
        Quote: molotov
        Assad the founder of ISIS everyone knows this.
        And I am the queen of Sheba.

        Ilya, hi it’s not even worth commenting! winked
      2. +1
        22 November 2015 14: 01
        Quote: Hello
        Quote: molotov
        Assad the founder of ISIS everyone knows this.
        And I am the queen of Sheba.

        Ilya, hi it’s not even worth commenting! winked
    2. +2
      22 November 2015 14: 09
      Quote: molotov
      We know that in the time of the USSR he founded the PKK. Remember the Afghanistan war as lost.

      Have you forgotten to accuse of Holodomor in / on Urkain, Stalin's extermination of "true Leninists / Trotskyists", deportation of Nazi accomplices, suppression of "popular revolutions" in Hungary and Czechoslovakia / or rather in the Czech Republic (the Fuehrer's loyal ally) /. Why do you swim so shallow? Yes, here's the stylization of your speech as a courtyard scumbag with an incomplete primary education leads to certain associations with your intellectual "image-morality".
      Quote: molotov
      Simple world knows your abilities - ordinary people

      Here you, oddly enough, "guessed", although you did not try. Yes, ordinary people and we have a conscience, unlike some ... inadequate, trying to "put a shadow on the wattle fence". Try, due to your intellectual abilities, to comprehend indicated phrase.
  29. -5
    22 November 2015 13: 37
    Quote: Hello
    Quote: molotov
    Assad the founder of ISIS everyone knows this.

    And I am the queen of Sheba. fool
    Quote: molotov
    You saw oil money and became aggressive, you were taken from Ukraine and Crimea, the war in Donbas in Ukraine, but crude oil fell $ 40 and went to war with Syria to raise oil prices. Assad is a dictator; Assad the founder of ISIS everyone knows this. ISIS and Assad are fighting her. Assad, the wound of silt will fall late, and Russia will lose. Oil will fall $ 30. And Russia will be an obedient child))). You saw a little money, and became Don Carleone the Sicilian mafia. We saw how you lost the Chechen war. 140 million against 2 million. We know how you won the Second World War, Iranian tactics 10 to 1. We know that in the time of the USSR he founded the PKK. Remember the Afghanistan war as lost. Simple world knows your abilities - ordinary people

    Dull stuffing fellow


    sooner or later the truth will triumph :)
    1. +4
      22 November 2015 13: 42
      Quote: molotov
      sooner or later the truth will triumph :)

      Let me ask you what is the truth?
    2. +1
      22 November 2015 19: 36
      Quote: molotov
      sooner or later the truth will triumph :)

      Really triumphs. She is already triumphing before your eyes.
  30. -9
    22 November 2015 13: 48
    Obama: Russian air strikes only helped ISIS terrorists


    http://warfiles.ru/show-100772-obama-aviaudary-rossii-tolko-pomogli-terroristam-

    igil.html

    Russia will not become an effective partner in the international struggle against Islamists until it decides on its priorities in Syria, Barack Obama said. According to the American president, having chosen as his main target the “moderate opposition”, which is fighting against IS, among other things, the Russian air forces did not just weaken the position of the terrorists, but even strengthened them.

    Russia could be useful if it focused on the [fight against] IS. And I’m sure that the consequence of the fact that the IS took responsibility for the crash of the Russian aircraft was the increase in understanding on the part of President Putin that the IG poses a greater danger to Russia than anyone else in the region.

    The main question now is whether they will be able to make strategic adjustments that will enable them to become effective partners for us and the 65 states already participating in the campaign against IS. And while we do not know.

    In the meantime, over the past few weeks, when they began to launch air strikes in Syria, their main goal was the moderate opposition, which, it seems to them, threatens Assad. Their main task, if we follow the blows inflicted by them, is to strengthen the position of the Assad regime. And this does not help our efforts in the fight against IS. To some extent [these airstrikes] reinforce the IS, because the IS also fight with many of the groups that the Russians attacked.

    During our meeting in Turkey, Vladimir Putin and I briefly discussed that he needed to admit that he needed to find people who killed Russian citizens. And these are not the groups they are now striking at.

    So they need to rethink their priorities. In general, I already spoke about this before, I already spoke about this to President Putin 5 years ago and I told him the same thing just a few days ago, the problem with Assad is not only related to how he treats his people.

    This is not just a human rights issue. Not just the problem of supporting someone who ruthlessly drops bombs on their civilians. However, in practice it is incomprehensible that Assad can restore his legitimacy in a country where most of the population hates him.

    sooner or later the truth will triumph :)


    However, in practice it is incomprehensible that Assad can restore his legitimacy in a country where most of the population hates him.
    1. +1
      22 November 2015 14: 29
      Quote: molotov
      sooner or later the truth will triumph

      Watch the movie "Brother II", / in English it will be more understandable to you / so the main character speaks very good words about power and truth there.
    2. +1
      22 November 2015 14: 29
      Or maybe 65 states need to decide and make strategic adjustments ???? You look and the struggle of the coalition of 65 states will begin to bring results.
  31. +2
    22 November 2015 14: 05
    The Turks finally decided finally that it is more profitable for them to fight not with ISIS, but with the Kurds - "GOOD LOOKS" ((((((
    1. +1
      22 November 2015 16: 37
      Quote: shh-inga
      The Turks finally decided finally that it is more profitable for them to fight not with ISIS, but with the Kurds - "GOOD LOOKS" ((((((

      WE WILL TURK TO BE WET! ... And what else to do .. hi
      1. 0
        22 November 2015 16: 44
        Quote: MIKHAN
        WE WILL BE WET



        WET you will be like in the USSR, China will soak you wassat
      2. +1
        22 November 2015 16: 52
        Be careful not to get wet in your pants yourself!
  32. -4
    22 November 2015 15: 53
    "Tell me, American, what is strength? Is it in money? So my brother says that in money. You have a lot of money, and what? I now think that strength is in truth. Whoever has truth is stronger. Here is you deceived someone, made money. And why, have you become stronger? No, you didn’t. Because the truth is not behind you. And the one who was deceived is the truth behind him, so he is stronger. Yes? Dmitry Gromov, mani, come on. "

    this stupid dialogue in the style of the USSR soldier

    I lived in Eastern Europe but not in the USSR and I know how socialism is lying there was one big lie wassat .

    You girls have good kindness Yes .
    1. 0
      22 November 2015 18: 49
      Quote: molotov
      You girls have good kindness

      Good girls = good wives = good children (this is ours). Do you have the opposite?
  33. -2
    22 November 2015 16: 09
    "Turkish planes" is strong! In fact, NATO-vskie with an exhausted resource, but "restored"! They look aggressive in the field and comfort their egos. It turns out that sometimes they fly .... Got where? Were the Kurds very scared or did the Turks put more bricks on the ground from the upcoming consequences?
  34. -2
    22 November 2015 16: 17
    F-16 blok 50+ they were produced under license, a glider 100% was produced in Turkey, the engine 60%, electronics 30%, so one hundred Turkey is not a stranger hi
    1. 0
      22 November 2015 19: 46
      Quote: molotov
      F-16 blok 50+ they were produced under license, a glider 100% was produced in Turkey, the engine 60%, electronics 30%, so one hundred Turkey is not a stranger

      The vast majority of F-16s were bought in the USA and they are already 30-40 years old. Turkish Aerospace Industries has been producing at a factory in Eskisehir only since 2011. Yes, and I see no reason to brag about such an airplane. I did not find the exact numbers, but so far about 8 of the 30 ordered have been delivered (for assembly in Turkey).

      Link to production news: http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/turkey-orders-30-f16c-block-50s-et-al-for-29
      b-02671 /
  35. +1
    22 November 2015 16: 35
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Quote: ayyildiz
    And that you took MIKHAN! Keyboard fighter as you can see!

    laughing I usually write from the heart ...! hi Tomorrow I’m going for heart surgery ... Glory to Russia! I'll be back...

    Good luck Come back, wait!
    1. 0
      22 November 2015 16: 53
      Quote: MIKHAN

      "And why did you accept MIKHAN! Keyboard fighter, as you can see!" Tocna fellow

      1. 0
        22 November 2015 18: 56
        Quote: molotov
        Tocna

        "Tospa", there is no such word in Russian.
  36. +2
    22 November 2015 18: 13
    Isn’t that really normal?
    Turkey will fight with Syria from its territory
    Turkey immediately took advantage of the French counter-terrorism resolution adopted the day before, using its fifth paragraph on the basis of Article 51 of the UN Charter. He interprets the fight against IS as self-defense and permits military operations in Syria without permission from Damascus. In gratitude to Paris, the Turks offered their bases for the French Air Force

    http://politpuzzle.ru/12750-turtsiya-budet-voevat-s-siriej-so-svoej-territorii/
  37. 0
    22 November 2015 21: 02
    http://www.tvc.ru/channel/brand/id/34/show/episodes/episode_id/1159/
  38. 0
    22 November 2015 21: 55
    One of the components of ISIS is valid
  39. 0
    22 November 2015 23: 05
    Turkish airplanes attacked the PKK positions on both sides of the border with Iraq

    Showdown on the sly ...
  40. 0
    23 November 2015 00: 17
    "The situation in Turkey has become extremely aggravated after the terrorist attack by IS terrorists on July 20 and a series of killings in the border areas of Turkish police and military organized by the PKK."

    It seems like one sentence, contains participants, conflict, consequences - but the information is minimal!
    What is this? "IS organized a ter. Act, and the Kurds started x-i-s Turkish policemen with military and civilians? (Killing 160 units ... how many Turkish aviation killed the Workers (civilian) of the Party of Kurdistan ???

    And what are the workers to blame? And why the turmoil in Turkey, and Iraq actually bombed? Someone - kindly clarify.
    1. +1
      23 November 2015 01: 45
      Excerpt from Wikipedia.

      Kurds (Kurd. Kurd / کورد / Körd, Kurd. Kurmancî / کورمانجی / Körmanschi) - Iranian-speaking people, representing a combination of numerous tribal groups, settled mainly in the regions of middle and northern Zagros and in the upper Tigris and Euphrates - in the region called Kurd [nineteen]. Kurdistan is currently divided between Turkey, Iran, Iraq and Syria. Numerous dialects of the Kurdish language belong to the northwestern subgroup of Iranian languages. Most Kurds profess Sunni Islam, some Shiite Islam, part Islam-Alevism, as well as Yezidism and Christianity.

      Kurdish national movement.

      Independence or recognition as national autonomy is the goal of the Kurds, which they fail to achieve. Some Kurdish uprisings in the 328th century sought autonomy within the state, others openly directed their activities towards full independence and the creation of their own national state, Kurdistan. [Source not specified 45 days] But the Kurdish movement failed to achieve its goal and even receive any real concessions by the government [XNUMX].
      For many years, the use of the Kurdish language in Turkish media has been banned. The Kurdish alphabet was formed by English, Russian and French scholars in the last century. However, under the pressure of world public opinion, the gradual democratization of the country and as a result of the decline in PKK activity, Turkey began to gradually ease the prohibitions on the use of the Kurdish language. Since January 2009, Turkey began regular round-the-clock television broadcasts in Kurdish. [46]
      Currently, the Kurdish issue is one of the key when discussing the further European integration of Turkey. Europe requires greater regionalization and autonomy of the Kurds, as well as respect for their rights in accordance with European standards [47]



      The rest can be read at: https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%83%D1%80%D0%B4%D1%8B
    2. 0
      23 November 2015 02: 23
      Here you can find answers to questions: http://www.novayagazeta.ru/comments/69408.html
      1. 0
        23 November 2015 19: 18
        Thanks for the help
  41. 0
    23 November 2015 01: 13
    Turks, in a word
  42. cap
    0
    23 November 2015 05: 19
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    Mountain shooter RU Yesterday, 11:36

    Until the Kurds unite, they will be "bred" like rabbits. These are good, these are bad, these are allies, and these are almost terrorists. The Turks cannot forget their "great past", the ghost of the Sublime Port does not let them sleep. It remains to advise more often to remember Suvorov and Ushakov, and even Skobelev. Promotes sobriety of thought ...

    So far amers manage to play off "All against all."
    And in the states of the military-industrial complex, at the very least, he does not sit without orders. While "O, B" plays with thimbles with Europe.
  43. 0
    23 November 2015 08: 55
    Turks are blind, it won’t lead to anything good ...

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