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Guided missiles will be developed for Smerch and Tornado-S

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The Smerch and Tornado-S volley-fire systems will receive guided missiles, reports RIA News the post of the Deputy Chief of the Missile Forces and Artillery Alexander Drahovalovsky.


Guided missiles will be developed for Smerch and Tornado-S


“For Smerch and Tornado-S, guided missiles will be developed in the future that will accurately hit targets,” Dragovalovsky said in an interview with Russian Service News».

As previously reported, “MLRS Tornado-S” will significantly increase the combat potential of the existing Smerch through the creation of a new family of missiles, new approaches and improvements that are associated with topographic and geodetic binding, guidance. ”
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  1. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 22 November 2015 10: 30 New
    -4
    РСЗО "Торнадо-С" значительно повысит боевой потенциал существующего "Смерча"

    Fuck, what is it? How can one MLRS increase the potential of a completely different MLRS? belay Всё равно что написать: "Армата" значительно повысит боевой потенциал Т-72Б3.
    1. smith7
      smith7 22 November 2015 10: 41 New
      14
      It can increase ... if the Tornado-S modernization of the Tornado and if Armata modernization of the T-72B3. In general, journalists often confuse different technical subtleties. Need to understand and forgive wink
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 22 November 2015 10: 44 New
        +4
        Quote: smith7
        if Tornado-S modernization of the Tornado

        Yes, colleagues, sorry blunted, mixed up with Tornado-G. recourse crying
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 22 November 2015 10: 41 New
      +5
      Мочить точечно...Становится "фишкой " России! и Это только начало...
      1. PQ-18
        PQ-18 22 November 2015 10: 59 New
        +2
        and this is just the beginning ...

        Михан,ты как будто, "ВЧЕРА РОДИЛСЯ "! lol
      2. spiriolla-45
        spiriolla-45 22 November 2015 12: 29 New
        +3
        Электроника всё дешевле, продвинутей и доступней, вот и становится, со всех сторон, выгодней иметь управляемые снаряды. Мы так скоро и в калаш патроны с программным обеспечением снаряжать станем, прям как в фильме "Пятый элемент".
      3. NIKNN
        NIKNN 22 November 2015 13: 47 New
        +2
        MIKHAN (7) SU Today, 10: 41

        Мочить точечно...Становится "фишкой " России! и Это только начало


        In order to wet pointwise, operational intelligence must be provided. And to quickly cover the area is cheaper than a volley with cluster warheads. And it’s for sure that our iskander with dots-u shoot, although judging by the shelling of New Russia, the effect is not so hot. request
      4. Alexey-74
        Alexey-74 23 November 2015 09: 08 New
        0
        ка говорится прямо в "форточку".......
    3. self-propelled
      self-propelled 22 November 2015 10: 46 New
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      How can one MLRS increase the potential of a completely different MLRS?

      well not so completely different. РСЗО "Торнадо-С" является приемником РСЗО "Смерч".

      разрабатываемые новые ракеты для "Торнадо-С" можно будет применять и на "Смерч'е"
      1. hydrox
        hydrox 22 November 2015 11: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: self-propelled
        ну не так уж и совсем другой. РСЗО "Торнадо-С" является приемником РСЗО "Смерч".

        Yes, there isn’t much difference, the main thing is the caliber, so that you can put the receiver of control signals from the network-centric system there, then EVERY missile can be sent to INDIVIDUAL coordinates.
        True, the volley will be much more expensive ...
        A good thought.
        1. kamski
          kamski 22 November 2015 11: 09 New
          +2
          It will be cheaper and significantly it will not be necessary to shoot at one target in one gulp from all the guides, just one rocket will be enough. It seems more expensive, but it’s cheaper
          1. Lt. Air Force stock
            Lt. Air Force stock 22 November 2015 11: 38 New
            +2
            I read that the range of combat employment of the Tornago-S MLRS will increase to 200 kilometers, with such a range the rocket 100% must be controllable, it will be difficult to hit without correction.
    4. Alexey-74
      Alexey-74 23 November 2015 09: 07 New
      0
      Everything that our military-industrial complex does to modernize certain weapons, I think that in any case it increases their power and potential. After all, the guys there are far from being fools.
  2. hartlend
    hartlend 22 November 2015 10: 31 New
    +8
    So the time has come for guided missiles for Tornado.
  3. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 November 2015 10: 32 New
    +2
    It was necessary to do so for a long time! To let out a flock of iron to the accuracy of a meter! The truth will be a significant rise in price and will additionally have to be provided.
    1. Kars
      Kars 22 November 2015 10: 36 New
      +3
      Quote: dchegrinec
      It was necessary to do so for a long time!

      It hasn’t worked out for a long time. It's all about the progress of the hardware base and minimization of size.
      1. dchegrinec
        dchegrinec 22 November 2015 10: 57 New
        +1
        guided missiles have long existed, which are ten times smaller in size, for example, on the Coalition-SV or Armat tank.
        1. Kars
          Kars 22 November 2015 13: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: dchegrinec
          guided missiles have long existed, which are ten times smaller in size, for example, on the Coalition-SV or Armat tank.

          Well, they compared a projectile guided by a laser on direct visibility and horizontal homing ammunition, and it can be said that Smerch has long had guided projectiles referring to the presence of anti-tank homing sub elements. Or what they are called there.
      2. Stas157
        Stas157 22 November 2015 11: 16 New
        +3
        Quote: Kars
        It hasn’t worked out for a long time. It's all about the progress of the hardware base and minimization of size.

        Belarusians did it before. As I understand it, their Polonaise is the same as Tornado and Tornado with guided missiles, plus an increased range.
        1. alecsis69
          alecsis69 22 November 2015 16: 49 New
          +1
          Belarusians have not seen anyone in their work yet. And they are tested in China, which is symptomatic.
    2. Alekseev
      Alekseev 22 November 2015 11: 02 New
      +2
      Quote: dchegrinec
      It was necessary to do so for a long time!

      Tornado missiles can now use self-aiming combat elements.
      Скорее всего, основным отличием Торнадо-С от своего "отца", старого Смерча, является именно применение управляемых боеприпасов, ибо при дальности стрельбы до 200 км ведение огня неуправляемыми ракетами теряет смысл. И, скорее всего, управляемые боеприпасы уже на вооружении.
      However, the old ammunition for the Tornado-S is also suitable ..
      1. alecsis69
        alecsis69 22 November 2015 16: 51 New
        0
        In addition to new missiles flying further and control systems, there is also a positioning system in place and in the horizon.
      2. bannik
        bannik 23 November 2015 03: 02 New
        0
        Most likely ALREADY, but have not been applied yet. Turning over a little old joke: - Let them toss and turn now!
    3. Koshak
      Koshak 22 November 2015 22: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: dchegrinec
      It was necessary to do so for a long time!

      Ага, еще в Великую Отечественную, на "Катюшах". Интересно, почему не делали?
      1. bannik
        bannik 23 November 2015 03: 12 New
        0
        dchegrinec was not born then, otherwise it would be, yes, easily!
  4. NordUral
    NordUral 22 November 2015 10: 39 New
    +4
    Good deal! From firing at squares to pinpoint strikes. The effect will be multiple.
    1. cniza
      cniza 22 November 2015 11: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: NordUral
      Good deal! From firing at squares to pinpoint strikes. The effect will be multiple.



      Powerful thing, I wonder if the power of the lesion increases?
  5. samara-58
    samara-58 22 November 2015 10: 44 New
    +1
    This is good: you want a hectare, you want a meter !!! good
  6. Lord_Sita
    Lord_Sita 22 November 2015 10: 48 New
    +2
    So it was like infa that guided ammunition for these systems are already in service? sad what
    1. 2s1122
      2s1122 22 November 2015 11: 43 New
      +1
      It is in China that developments are being carried out jointly with Belarus (like), while in Russia, developments are underway to deliver a MLRS drone for correcting driving.
  7. sa-ag
    sa-ag 22 November 2015 11: 08 New
    +1
    Well, this decision has been asking for a long time, it is surprising that it has not been implemented before.
  8. APASUS
    APASUS 22 November 2015 11: 11 New
    0
    Once again, we return to the production of our elemental base, the development of electronic systems and technologies. Until then, we would at least learn the opportunity from China.
  9. pan.70
    pan.70 22 November 2015 11: 12 New
    0
    Well and rightly, the armament of Russia should be improved, because in the modern world we have not so few enemies - let them fear us and respect us.
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 November 2015 11: 23 New
    +2
    To everyone who is worried about the Russian element base. I assure you that all self-guided and controlled NOT ON CHINESE ICs are going to. Factories work, equipment is purchased and plowed, technologies are and are being improved. A CIRCUIT IS NOT PRODUCED, that is, that is.
    А то, что при такой дальнобойности и мощности "Смерч" просто должен был бы иметь коррекцию точки попадания - это напрашивалось. Ну, время требуется на все. Сейчас доведут инерциальные системы наведения в интегральном исполнении, сведут их стоимость до стоимости дешевого сотового, и полетят наши снаряды даже с внутренней коррекцией.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 22 November 2015 15: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      To everyone who is worried about the Russian element base. I assure you that all self-guided and controlled NOT ON CHINESE ICs are going to. Factories work, equipment is purchased and plowed, technologies are and are being improved. CIRCUIT DEMAND NOT PRODUCED, that is, that is

      There can’t even be questions, but the price of such electronics should be prohibitive. It is mass production that can lower the price, and we have all the energy, machine tools (or rather its remnants) all on Western circuits. Okay, you can buy a TV in China, but all power systems are completely stuffed with equipment and software from the same siemens, they can turn off the light for us and without war in the whole country and very simply!
    2. TOR2
      TOR2 22 November 2015 18: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Factories work, equipment is purchased and plowed, technologies are and are being improved. A CIRCUIT IS NOT PRODUCED, that is, that is.

      But this is in vain. This is additional money that you can spend on new projects. Although there is one caveat, consumer goods need to be produced on a household element base, on an industrial one it will be too expensive.
  11. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 22 November 2015 11: 52 New
    +1
    On the whole, now the United States is already moving to high-precision weapons with which they associate its global strike against Russia, which we need to understand for a long time. I think that the future is not bright for anyone, including the United States. Only God forbid Russia to quickly get out of poverty, become self-sufficient in all respects, work out the banking system in normal lending to the economy and everything will fall into place.
  12. shelva
    shelva 22 November 2015 12: 02 New
    +1
    Это хорошо, а то "из пушки по воробьям" - как то не современно.
  13. kirpich
    kirpich 22 November 2015 12: 14 New
    +1
    Well, if they said that they would be developed, then they probably already have it. Secrecy ... there's nothing to be done.
  14. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 22 November 2015 12: 25 New
    +1
    Managed, or adjusted? The difference is big, the journalist as usual writes what horrible?
  15. Hey
    Hey 22 November 2015 12: 44 New
    +1
    Я бы предпочел другой подход к управлению ракетами "Смерча".
    Батарея "Смерчей" производит залп и ведет ракеты (при необходимости) на основном участке полета, просто задавая какое то направление, затем передает управление тому подразделению, в боевой поддержке которому они задействованы. Те же, на конечном этапе полета "Смерчей", взяв управление ими, наводят их точно на цель. Например, в автоматическом режиме, наведя маркер на цель, на планшете. Подразделение - батальон, диверсионная группа. Можно задействовать специализированный безпилотник.
    В чем вижу приимущество такого подхода. Не надо точное прицеливание расчету батареи "Смерчей", отпадает учет погодных факторов, только направление. Более точное использование по динамическим (движущимся) целям. В последний момент можно изменить цель удара, в связи с изменившейся обстановкой, которая в скоротечном бою может измениться за подлетное время ракет.
  16. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 22 November 2015 13: 05 New
    0
    Современная схема использования "Смерчей" напрашивается такая. Первой ракетой в район цели забрасывается беспилотник. Цель доразведывается, производится точная топопривязка, определяются контуры цели. Потом, с точной привязкой, массированный налет, осмотр результатов, если ещё шевелятся - повторить.
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 22 November 2015 15: 04 New
      +1
      Technically, this can be done.
      But then with a rocket (after the UAV is released in the air)
      something needs to be done. Self-destruct in the air?
      But here's the catch: the factor of surprise disappears.
      The enemy will sooner or later realize that such
      explosion in the air (or on the ground) of non-casualness.
      And he will begin to dump out of a dangerous place ...
      UAVs are hardly noticeable and it is a pity to lose this advantage.
  17. Gunther
    Gunther 22 November 2015 15: 26 New
    0
    That's right, guided missiles in conjunction with a rocket for an MLRS carrying an unmanned aerial vehicle, and all this is controlled by a network system - an unmanned aerial vehicle transmits operational information to a command center - a MLRS strike and other means of destruction are delivered.
    By the way, there was an article on this topic in VO.
    " Россия и Китай создают 300-миллиметровый снаряд для систем залпового огня, способный забрасывать на 90 километров разведывательные безпилотники. Такая технология позволит быстро проводить воздушную разведку целей: прибыв на место, аппарат летает 30 минут и передаёт информацию. Аналогов разработка не имеет"©
  18. Seventh
    Seventh 22 November 2015 17: 12 New
    0
    Quote: Gunter
    Всё правильно, Россия и Китай создают 300-миллиметровый снаряд для систем залпового огня, способный забрасывать на 90 километров разведывательные безпилотники. Такая технология позволит быстро проводить воздушную разведку целей: прибыв на место, аппарат летает 30 минут и передаёт информацию. Аналогов разработка не имеет"©
    .. long forgotten Soviet old ... pass off as new and progressive .. laughing ... 9M534 shell to the MLRS Smerch ..
  19. Seventh
    Seventh 22 November 2015 17: 16 New
    0
    Quote: chunga-changa
    Managed, or adjusted? The difference is big, the journalist as usual writes what horrible?
    какая разница ?? Засунешь туда вместо нонешней осколочной БЧ..снаряд "Краснополь", созданный в СССР, ...будет управляемый, а если сунуть "Сантиметр" будет корректируемый.. laughing
  20. TOR2
    TOR2 22 November 2015 19: 00 New
    +2
    Quote: Lt. air force reserve
    I read that the range of combat employment of the MLRS Tornago-S will increase to 200 kilometers,

    This is obtained if necessary, the mattress covers can be fried at any point in the labyrinth.
    At a distance of 200 km. for any correction will be needed. To reduce the cost of such a volley, a correction system can only be equipped with a missile - a leader, and the rest will follow it. At the final stage of the flight, at the command of the leader, the missiles line up in any of the geometric figures, depending on the object being hit. Oh gizmo will be good especially for the Kaliningrad and Pskov regions. smile
  21. AID.S
    AID.S 23 November 2015 00: 07 New
    0
    Quote: TOR2
    To reduce the cost of such a volley, a correction system can only be equipped with a missile - a leader, and the rest will follow it. At the final stage of the flight, at the command of the leader, the missiles line up in any of the geometric figures, depending on the object being hit.

    And to follow the leader, and to line up in geometric shapes does not need a correction system?