What is worse than LIH?

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By itself, terrorism is not only illegal and immoral, it still does not make sense, since under normal conditions it almost never achieves any stated goals. It so happened that even an underdeveloped state can be more terrible than any terrorist, not to mention the enormous difference in resources. However, terrorism is a direct challenge to the country's ruling elite. In a stable system, citizens fear only the punitive organs of the state machine. Massive terrorism makes people fear someone else besides the state, and this is an attempt at a monopoly to instill fear. Therefore, terrorism or any attempt to punish it is punished with the utmost cruelty by any competent state.



Thus, frequent attacks undermine the credibility of the current regime and may, in conjunction with other circumstances, lead to its change. And, as often happens, elements of the structures that used to engage in terrorism can come to power.

Recently, the media have talked a lot about the growing popularity of ISIS in the West and in Russia, but almost nothing is said about the guilt of the states themselves in the voluntary or involuntary cultivation of radicalism. In the conditions of stagnant systems and collapsed social elevators, the younger generation finds itself in a ring of severe prohibitions: it is impossible, it is impossible, then don’t do it, don’t say it ...

Young people, and not only Muslims, are offered life on a grooved rut, gray and colorless, where, at best, the brave man is expected at best by a social-bourgeois reprimand, at worst a criminal article - and not even for a specific act, but for expressing an opinion that is different from what is permitted.

ISIS offers an alternative. Crazy and savage, but an alternative. After all, the meaning of the ideology of ISIL is not in cutting off heads — it is only a means of establishing control over the conquered territories. The meaning is in general equality, through the establishment of a strict Islamist regime. The truth, in contrast to, say, communism, which provided for equality for all, ISIS declares it only for Sunni Muslims. The rest are subject to physical extermination or slavery. This ISIS fell into its own trap, pre-identifying themselves as the enemy of the rest of humanity. If ISIS remains on the map and is recognized by members of the international community, then in the end it is waiting for the same path that all such states have followed, forcibly arisen on ideas of universal equality. After the establishment of the new government, the most odious and ideological part of the militants, they are romantics, revolutionaries, will be exterminated. The new authorities will establish the same system of inequality that existed before them, but this time the “right people” will be on top. The Islamists who have avoided repression will begin to grumble about the “betrayal of the ideas of jihad,” but quietly, for such words can be paid with your head. As a result, we get almost a clone of Saudi Arabia, but without the monarchy.

But the emergence of such a phenomenon as the IG is only the beginning, a precursor of big changes. Radicalism originated in the Muslim environment, sooner or later, will capture the minds of the traditional European population. Since the punishments for “mental crime” in Europe, Russia and the United States have already become equal punishments for violent crimes (which should not be in a normal society by definition), the abstract young man is tempted not to waste time on words and go straight to radical actions. Since the ideology of ISIS is suitable only for certain categories of Muslims, the white population will have its own radical trends. Most likely, their ideology will be extreme nationalism, and possibly anarchism.

In Russia, all this is superimposed on the national humiliation in the international arena. Although citizens of several countries died in the autumn terrorist attacks, only the French suddenly turned out to be worthy of crying in the world media. So the citizens of Russia, not to mention the Lebanese, once again made it clear that they are not considered people. Only Egypt symbolically placed on the pyramid a projection of all three flags: Russian, Lebanese and French.

Well, for us, ordinary Russians, who do not have property in London and accounts in Switzerland, there is no point in cringing to Paris and going on the marches "We are Charlie too," like some of our prominent figures. We can honestly talk about what we really think, even if some liberal subjects call it blasphemy and mockery. We are free, or at least we are fighting for freedom, the remnants of which we are trying to take away from us. We have the right not to consider those who do not consider us to be people. It does not matter, the Islamists are LIH or "European partners."

Of course, ISIS is terrible in and of itself. But the seeds of evil never germinate without fertile soil. And we have such a soil, alas, plenty. But if the idea of ​​universal justice is dangerous for a regime that supports oppression, the emergence of several alternative ideologies of such justice is dangerous for the very existence of the country. Socialism was able to unite most of the former Russian Empire into one state because it could be attractive for representatives of different nations, and not at all because someone had been won by the Red Army. At least two alternative revolutionary projects are currently being planned on the territory of Russia: Islamist and Russian-nationalist. The authorities are trying to fight both of them, but this battle is doomed to failure as long as the ruling circles have no moral authority or at least an elementary vision of the future that could be presented to the population. And everything can end with the fact that two completely different revolutionary projects will simply split the country into parts, and for the sins of the rulers again will have to pay ordinary people.
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  1. +5
    26 November 2015 06: 19
    Of course, ISIS is terrible in itself. But the seeds of evil never germinate without fertile soil. And here we have, alas, plenty of soil.

    This soil can always be found and fertilized.
    Offhand, you live badly - the authorities are to blame. You began to live better, but not so much - the authorities are to blame. You were given a free Lada Kalina, why do I need this autotaz, I want Solaris.
    I exaggerate, but a little.
    A person in the present world will be dissatisfied with everything, he is focused on this.
    "+" we have dissidence in our blood. And not constructive criticism, namely ...:
    1. hartlend
      +7
      26 November 2015 06: 50
      It is necessary to grow a new generation of people. Stalin did this, it worked out well. People were content with little and were happy, and dissidents fell down the forest.
      1. +1
        26 November 2015 17: 03
        heartland

        You're right. There is a new term called SOCIAL ENGINEERING.

        Igor Kabardin. You have raised the most significant question. You tried to give an answer to it. But the conclusions were wrong.

        The criterion for the correct answer is the criterion that leads humanity to progress.

        You have a confusion of the principles of SOCIAL ENGINEERING. These principles are simple. I’ll tell them now, but you comprehend. And look at life through new concepts.

        Lies are regression. The truth is progress.

        Mathematics is the language of physics. Physics is a description of the processes of nature.

        In mathematics, the primary is the multiplication table. Change the multiplication tables 2x2 five. And you cannot comprehend natural processes. It's a lie.

        In social engineering, the basic principle is morality. Changing morality, we get a person regression. The whole of human civilization.

        How to distinguish regressive from progressive morality? Very simple.

        Progressive morality is the collective basis of human actions.

        Regressive is selfish.

        All developed countries of Western civilization, so to speak, through government structures pursue a policy of replacing human consciousness.

        By the way, only one Russia is resisting.

        How does this happen.?

        State intervention in the moral values ​​of the family. Juvenile justice.

        Reducing the role of teachers as educators. By removing the student from the dialogue with the teacher. The control system through a dialogue with a table of questions and answers.

        Feminism. Changing the role of women in society.

        Homosexuality. Replacing moral concepts.

        In all of the above. There is a pattern.
        An egoistic value system is being established. Collectivism is eliminated from human consciousness.

        Thus, changing the nature of man, the world goes to its doom.

        Labor made one from a monkey man. Community labor, collective.

        You have a gregarious feeling, said the liberal.
      2. 0
        26 November 2015 20: 27
        Quote: hartlend
        Stalin did this, it worked well.
        - Did you look carefully at the meeting place? Look again, it will not be superfluous, fortunately, the film is good. Despite the fact that people were really content with little, but for some reason they were honest hard workers. The dissidents fell the loudest and most arrogant. And what about cunning and quiet dissidents? And watch the film carefully ... The main character from the film visited two such places - where he beat "smoked" or "brick" at billiards (I don't remember, played by Sadalsky) and during the operation to capture Fox in the Astoria restaurant. These are hot and very expensive places, where even operas were given only a cup of coffee during the operation, but there are a lot of smug people, popularly called "artels". I do not criticize Stalin, I consider him the greatest Ruler of all times and peoples, but it is NOT NECESSARY to idealize directly what was happening during the years of his reign - there was no such direct equality, and simple hard workers also lived badly, on food ration cards, and thieves did not it was very poor. The Moscow Criminal Investigation Department simply kept the crime under tight control, but this was not rooted out at the root, because in fact, in such conditions, crime is fundamentally ineradicable. And real attempts to eradicate could only worsen the criminogenic situation, for if you put in the nonesh "authorities" who can even think about the relative adepts, instead of those planted by the authorities, real scumbags will become, you will get worn out afterwards.
    2. +8
      26 November 2015 11: 06
      You're lying impudently, in due time I didn’t go to raise a new city for a Muscovite, but for us to live better and the country to flourish, and without any pathos I’m writing and it was like that. I still think that it was not in vain that I lived my life, I believe in socialism as in our father (I sometimes attend church, it’s not a hindrance to the other, I was not in the Communist Party). And our moronic power has wound the glomerulus over 25 years and they must be pulled at the tip. She, like a rabbit, rushes into the mouth of a boa constrictor and pulls everyone along, doesn’t listen to anyone and doesn’t listen to anyone, it’s not surprising if one day the Bosko unscrews, Man is inclined to justice, it’s another matter with which sauce to direct her in any direction.
      1. 0
        26 November 2015 17: 50
        varov14

        You're right. You are not alone. You are the whole human race.

        Continue.

        Corruption. What to do? How to fight?

        Corruption is the original distorted human morality. Selfish human behavior. You may object that there are a lot of them, this is collectivism.

        I will answer. Common crime - unites.

        How to deal?

        Stalinist methods will not work. Unfortunately. If there are 95% of corrupt officials, it is not possible to fight against the same corrupt officials.
        Stalin had the old guard, which was able to separate the grain from the chaff. Plus minus, the egoists were separated from the comfortable environment.
        Putin did not have the required amount. You can count on the fingers those who work.
        If it is impossible to fight corruption, it must be led. That is what GDP did. Through this system, he created, for the first time, revenue for the tax system. And every time from time to time he takes the country for "manual control".

        What to do next? Production, army.

        In this environment, people with the right morality always remain. Morality directed towards progressive collective thinking. It’s just impossible in the production and army environment, the laws of nature and the storage itself have preserved the correct human collective morality.
        From this medium, through selective selection, the correct composition can be returned to the bureaucratic environment. Gradually reducing the number of egoists leading to a positive balance. What GDP does.

        Here you have the worldview basis. How to rule the world through the replacement of values.

        All this is SOCIAL ENGINEERING
    3. 0
      26 November 2015 13: 30
      The so-called "elite" always betrayed the people and the state, although I would have chosen a different name for these hyenas of the human race. We are disunited, not without their propaganda, and we are weakly holding the blow, we must keep them in constant tension.
      1. 0
        26 November 2015 18: 00
        shtanko.49

        OK. Elite.

        How to determine the right leader from the wrong? What we mean by the term elite.

        Simply. If you see selfish behavior in front of you is the enemy of man. In all seriousness, an assessment is given as an enemy. Because with his high position and not human, not collectivist worldview, morality, this person leads to regression.
    4. PAM
      0
      26 November 2015 13: 57
      You were given free of charge by "Lada Kalina"
      where is it distributed? to whom? If they gave it out, I would not have to buy "Solaris" (price, quality, convenience). And who is focused on what - don't measure it by yourself. Xs, what's in your blood - this is to the doctor. And about happiness, so to each his own.
      1. +1
        26 November 2015 15: 04
        "(price, quality, convenience)" --- I'm not ashamed myself, for full-time psychology. No, I am not against the new and advanced, but turning it into a fetish, not respecting yourself. When I was 18 years old my father gave me his watch - "Victory" and I used it for twenty years, then accidentally broke it in production. This is what I need, if this mechanism is in a gold case, and adorned with diamonds, go and stick in the nose of everyone you meet how cool you are, although their function has not changed, not yet, naked antlers. Or buys a stupid wumen a blouse for several thousand bucks, I know for sure that a square meter of any rag is not worth that much money, to sew "two" seams is generally ridiculous (I had to sew myself, in general I think a real man should be able to build a house, sew his pants , drive a car and have children), i.e. out of a fool who has a lot of unearned dough, "smart" people make a sucker and so in everything, so can you really pray for this, you have to be the last monkey.
        1. PAM
          0
          30 November 2015 10: 33
          what should I be ashamed of? I am a patriot of my country, I hate fascists (Nazis), I spit on every thief whose ass is covered with posts, I never raised my hand against a woman (and God forbid), I did not pass by those in trouble, I respect my elders, I have many skills (technical, for example, he himself built and flooded the house, and fell down the forest, and chopped the log house, and the roof of the wings). But when I bought "Solaris" for everyday life, the choice was (budget) from domestic cars: Prior, viburnum, (2107, 2114 I do not touch); from foreign: used right-hand drive vehicles, "Solaris", "Polo" and "Rio". So I chose
          (price, quality, convenience
          to your taste and considerations.
  2. +3
    26 November 2015 06: 29
    I can not understand the popularity of ISIS, they also bring chaos, death. Crush them, burn with a red-hot iron. The fate of being soaked in the toilet is too much for them
  3. +2
    26 November 2015 06: 35
    Radicalism born in the Muslim environment will sooner or later take over the minds of the traditional European population.


    In all likelihood, the next "mastery of minds" is not expected. More than one hundred or more people will die, more than one "soul" will be recruited by the radicals. To defeat evil requires a long and cruel, unfortunately, struggle.
  4. +5
    26 November 2015 06: 48
    Now at least in Russia are planned two alternative revolutionary projects: Islamist and Russian-nationalist.

    It is said "strongly" about revolutionary projects. A revolutionary project implies, as a result, the overthrow of the government and the coming to it of those who conceived and implemented this project. Here we can only agree that radical Islam actively manifests itself in the fight against the so-called. true Islam. But about the revolutionary project of Russian nationalists is too exaggerated.
    1. -2
      26 November 2015 10: 42
      Well, the Russian-nationalist has never been specifically aimed at the revolution, rather at universal equality. For example, in tsarist Russia, which was national monarchist, there were no excesses on national soil. In addition, any incitement by Russian nationalists is actively stifled by 282 art. UK. None of the minorities convicted under this article, I will not believe that they are all such white and fluffy share-boys who regularly take their grandmother across the road. It's just that today is the policy of the authorities to crush the Russians ...
    2. +1
      26 November 2015 10: 42
      Well, the Russian-nationalist has never been specifically aimed at the revolution, rather at universal equality. For example, in tsarist Russia, which was national monarchist, there were no excesses on national soil. In addition, any incitement by Russian nationalists is actively stifled by 282 art. UK. None of the minorities convicted under this article, I will not believe that they are all such white and fluffy share-boys who regularly take their grandmother across the road. It's just that today is the policy of the authorities to crush the Russians ...
    3. -2
      26 November 2015 11: 00
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Here we can only agree that radical Islam actively manifests itself in the fight against the so-called true islam.

      And who determines where Islam is radicalbut where is the true one?
  5. hartlend
    +1
    26 November 2015 06: 53
    How is IS and ISIS correct?
    “But the emergence of such a phenomenon as IS is just the beginning, a harbinger of great changes. violent crimes (which in a normal society should not be by definition), an abstract young man is tempted not to waste time on words and go straight to radical actions.Since the ideology of ISIS is suitable only for certain categories of Muslims, the white population will have its own radical currents. Most likely, their ideology will be extreme nationalism, and possibly anarchism. "
    1. +2
      26 November 2015 07: 29
      It used to be ISIS - the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant. Now they began to reduce for the sake of convenience - the Islamic State.
  6. +2
    26 November 2015 07: 00
    "... or at least an elementary vision of the future that could be presented to the population"

    Is it yes, or is it so amorphous-vague that it’s like it’s not there
  7. +5
    26 November 2015 08: 05
    "At the opening of the Yeltsin Center, Putin promised to fulfill the mandate of the first president: to make Russia happy" http://www.kp.ru/daily/26462/3332926/

    A curious event, in my opinion, testifies to fidelity to the Family
    1. 0
      26 November 2015 09: 01
      Well no! That would be REMEMBERED! And most importantly, they break the tradition of starting all over again on the ruins of the predecessor with dancing on the bones.
      1. 0
        26 November 2015 14: 31
        Maybe Putin promised not to touch the "family" ever, even after Yeltsin's death, when he was running for president. And he keeps his word.
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  8. +3
    26 November 2015 08: 46
    Yeah, I remember, a year ago, many copies were broken about the lack of state ideology in the country on the forum pages.
    1. +4
      26 November 2015 09: 32
      But what striking truckers think about igil ..
  9. +5
    26 November 2015 08: 49
    Key phrase:
    This battle is doomed to failure until the ruling circles have moral authority or at least an elementary vision of the future
    So it is - slowly but surely, Russia is slipping into the abyss and our authorities are pushing it there deliberately and systematically.
    And after Putin poured oil at the opening of the center of the traitor-cattle ebna, he also has no faith.
    1. +2
      26 November 2015 11: 12
      Quote: Volzhanin
      And after Putin poured oil at the opening of the center of the traitor-cattle ebna, he also has no faith.

      But was it?
  10. +3
    26 November 2015 09: 26
    The author is absolutely right, the degenerating "democracies" themselves give rise to movements like IS. In modern countries there are no longer simple and understandable "social" lifts for all members of society, the path "up" to "recognition" is closed for you if you do not belong to the circle of the elite, have not gone through certain stages of "education" in the "necessary" educational institutions and so on. In addition, to maintain "afloat" in modern society requires more and more efforts, labor and nerves, and people are corny tired, "burned out" at work. In everyday life, by introducing all sorts of different restrictions such as a "patriotic" act, "juvenile justice", "sexual harassment", etc., people are deprived of normal communication, both among themselves and within the family and between the sexes. All this leads to an increase in the internal discontent of many members of society, internal protest and longing for "simple and understandable" rules and laws, for a "simple" way of life. It is this internal protest and discontent that IS and similar organizations exploit. IS is based on the rules of not so much a "state" as a "brotherhood" - there is no strict hierarchy and all "bosses" are elected or backed up by appropriate funding or personal authority. In IS, any ordinary person can become a "murid" or "sheikh" if he knows how to manage and exercise authority. Life in IS is based on simple and understandable laws; 1) your “success” depends on you and the “success” of your associates, 2) with your courage and skill, you yourself forge your “career”, 3) Sharia laws are the only laws of life that need follow - there are no other laws, 4) all decisions are made jointly or by an authoritative assembly, 5) there should be no rich and poor between members of the IG - all income goes into the "common pot" and is "fairly" distributed, 6) no - usury, 7) a man should be only a warrior, women are trash, consumables, the attitude towards them is only in accordance with Sharia law, for them freedom is only in bed, only slaves of women and hired workers and specialists should work, a male member of IS should touch the tools - sin, etc. Agree, if you discard the "civilized" "bigotry" and put your hand on your heart, then we can say that many of these rules look very attractive, especially for those who do not see their prospects in the "Western", "civilized" society tve. Koni also said that: "terrorism and crime are a normal reaction, in general, of normal people, members of society, to the abnormal state of this society itself ..." The author is a fat plus.
    1. 0
      26 November 2015 14: 45
      Their freedom is simply permissiveness. Nearly. Everything is possible, if this does not violate the plans of the commanders, that’s all their morality and law. Now, if tomorrow all the laws are canceled in the world. All! Will all people behave .... I can’t find the words, because animals have laws. So to speak, the laws of nature. Will all people behave worse than animals? All of you, IN, will be worse than animals ?! I DO NOT BELIEVE!!! Immediately, people will be divided into groups that are quarreling or friendly. Leaders stand out. Laws will be created - swiftly! Conclusion: Freedom in its purest form is an unnecessary chimera. And ISIS promises its people, if I may call them that, just such freedom.
  11. 0
    26 November 2015 09: 50
    People!
    Read comments on this branch of the corr!
    This is something)
    Yavalals!
    Day is done! You can have fun)

    http://korrespondent.net/world/3594976-yhyl-obiavyl-ukraynu-vrahom-smy
  12. +4
    26 November 2015 10: 01
    The idea is true, illuminated one-sidedly. It is important for every citizen of his country to feel necessary. Anyone who provides the idea of ​​demand, that owns the hearts of the masses. And such technologies have long been recognized and actively used (that is, that is, that Ukraine). You can only counter such an impact with common sense in your own head. And here the result will determine the contents of that very head. Therefore: Learn, study and study!
  13. -1
    26 November 2015 11: 12
    The author is right about fertile soil in Russia. But I am inclined to think - that the revolution, the fruit of the low level of education of the majority. After all, the revolution of the early 20th century took place precisely in countries where the number of educated people was less than 20%! There were no revolutions in either Great Britain or France.

    Our Ministry of Education today creates the ground for revolutions and unrest on its own, without any outside support.

    Sincerely.
  14. 0
    26 November 2015 11: 49
    I don’t know how they are punished for “thought crimes” in Russia, but in Norway on 22 on July 2011 Anders Breivik detonated a bomb in Oslo that killed 8 and injured 209 people, after which Breivik personally shot a man from 66 carbines and wounded 33 more. The final sentence for everything is 21 year of prison, there is no more punishment in the Criminal Code of Norway.

    In the EU, general surveillance of the population and criminal penalties for downloading films and music from the Internet (theft of intellectual property), but have not yet been punished for thought crimes.
  15. +1
    26 November 2015 13: 02
    If a Jew is taken away from faith in God, and Russian, faith in a good king, then they are capable of the hell .... this is from the City of Doomed. You need to believe comrades, just believe in YOUR OWN noble mission and strength. For example, make your family happy through work that is good for the country. And then the majority of their place in this world does not understand, so they rush about like hzch.
  16. +1
    26 November 2015 14: 43
    The worst ISIS in the world is only greed, arrogance, appetites of the USA !!! Do not be for this country on planet Earth people would live much calmer !!!
    1. 0
      26 November 2015 14: 51
      When was the United States, did people live calmer?
    2. 0
      26 November 2015 14: 51
      When was the United States, did people live calmer?
  17. 0
    26 November 2015 14: 50
    In principle, I agree with the opinion of the author. Terrorism is a product of the wrong ideology of the state. As long as the "supposedly correct" people are in power, then no positive changes will be seen, since inaction on the part of the state leads to the fact that the country will begin to decompose from within under the influence of terrorism and radicalism ...
  18. +1
    26 November 2015 14: 55
    What is worse than LIH?More terrible are those who have bred it all.
  19. +1
    26 November 2015 14: 58
    I agree with the author. And if a person feels necessary, demanded and, importantly, appreciated, then it will never occur to him to hang around on barricades. About the laws said correctly. Punishment for crimes fair in terms of a healthy person. What are they doing? An example, - in my opinion, the other day the Slovak Republic passed a bill on punishment for denying the Armenian genocide. Even a word. The fine is 500000 rubles or 5 years in prison. What is it like? For the denial of the Holocaust, they are already punishing. Moreover, the Holocaust must be written with a capital letter. So ISIS, a Nazi, a bomber and much more are born.
  20. +1
    26 November 2015 16: 17
    Photos of those who shot the pilots and photos of the Ishilovites, in the fourth car on the right, in a burgundy coat, the same person? Http: //ic.pics.livejournal.com/ntv/14201556/1746823/1746823_original.jpg
  21. 0
    26 November 2015 19: 03
    Once again I repeat that I consider the Egyptians heroes, i.e. their army.
    But how can you even write this: "If ISIS remains on the map and is recognized by members of the international community, then in the end it will face the same path that all such states have gone through." They even surpassed Hitler's Germany in atrocities, even stepped over. How can such a brat be allowed anywhere?
    And UG, i.e. IG, not Muslims. And they never were!
    The authorities are certainly not angels, but both seperatist projects / versions are doomed to failure. Siberia, for example, has only specific economic claims. But he can stand up for the country, as well as the last time, which was treacherously forgotten.
    The Turks, and especially the Ottomans, are not our rivals (there are many pro-Russian Turks among the Turks), but Erdogan must answer.

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