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Black hole somalia


In July, 2015, the command of Operation Atalanta, announced the cessation of robbery attacks on merchant and other vessels off the coast of East Africa in the last six months. This mission was launched by the leadership of the European Union in 2008 year in order to counter the threat of piracy emanating from Somalia, as well as to perform some other tasks of secondary importance. The operation is managed from the UK.

CONTRADICTIVE RESULTS


European admirals lack of attacks is hailed as a great success, caused by “military measures, adaptation of commercial freight methods to the current conditions, the use of private security companies by placing their employees on ships”.

However, according to the leaders of the operation, the threat of piracy in the Horn of Africa is still very high, and it’s advisable to maintain a naval presence at least in the short term.

Enormous resources were attracted to ensure the safety of shipping from sea burglary in this area. Thus, the annual budget of a single operation “Atalanta” is currently 7,35 million euros. It involves the 2 frigate and the 3 patrol craft from various European countries, replacing each other on a rotating basis. Also used one reconnaissance and one transport aircraft. Until recently, from 7 to 9 ships, 3 aircraft and helicopters were involved.

During the period of "Atalanta", according to the materials of the Western press, Europeans also launched air strikes on pirate boats.

Ship security is also provided by ships under the auspices of NATO as part of Operation Ocean Shield (Ocean Shield), launched in August 2009. In addition to the Alliance member states, New Zealand, Australia, Ukraine and Colombia were partners of Brussels. Before 2015, ships from different states participated in it, from 4 to 6, sometimes even submarines were involved. However, since 2015, a decision has been made to significantly reduce the presence of NATO: in the winter, water can only be monitored by airplanes, while ships will arrive in troubled areas only in the spring of 2016. True, “Ocean Shield” has not yet collapsed, and its terms have been extended until the end of 2016.

Another major international group is the so-called “Combined Task Force 151”, created in January 151 at the initiative of Washington and including more than 2009 countries from different parts of the world. The command is stationed in Manama (Bahrain), where the headquarters of the 30th Fleet US Navy. It was the units of this operational group that took part in the release of the captured crew member of the Maersk Alabama in 2009. Based on these events, the famous film Captain Phillips was later shot.

In addition, measures to counter piracy are carried out by units of other countries outside the blocks, of which the Russian, Japanese and Chinese ships have been the most active in the last 5 – 6 years.

Safer routes for ships in the Somalia region were also developed. And, of course, it was not without private security companies that were used in one form or another.

Unmanned aerial vehicles, mainly MQ-2009 "Ripper", which are capable of carrying up to four air-to-ground missiles, are actively used by Americans to track pirates from 9. And although the air strikes against pirates by the Americans were not officially reported, the existence of such facts cannot be ruled out. Perhaps this was the most impressive method of influence in order to wean the Somalis from the maritime robbery, albeit from a legal point of view.

CONTROL POLE


Somali activists often make accusations against foreign Navy units that warships often guard poachers in the waters of the exclusive sea zone and also help to discharge large quantities of waste, including radioactive ones, into the sea, which turns the coastal regions of the country in a big landfill. It is difficult to verify the objectivity of these allegations, but even if they are true, it is unlikely that anyone outside Somalia will pay attention to them.

If you look at the lists of warships that have taken part in countering the pirates in recent years, you get the impression that Somalia has become the zone of the main naval battle of a major global conflict. It is hard to believe that the reason for such a cluster of naval units in dozens of countries is hungry and tattered robbers on home-made boats, armed with rusty (but reliable) AKs.

Given the huge number of forces involved, stopping pirate attacks does not seem to be a very big achievement. It would be strange if, with the measures taken on such a scale, attacks continued.

The reduction in the number of naval contingents is not caused by the improvement of the situation, but by gaining experience and honing the interaction. Piracy itself as a phenomenon has not been defeated, so far it has only been able to defend itself.

As for Somalia itself, now there are quite alarming events taking place, the negative effect of which is spreading beyond the borders of the country’s territory and threatens to turn into a serious crisis on the scale of the whole Black continent.

BLOODY REMARKS OF KENYA


Terrible attacks occur in neighboring Kenya over the past four years. The largest of them is an attack on a shopping center in Nairobi in September 2013, killing more than 60 people, including several foreigners. Then the attackers, seizing the shopping center, began to purposefully shoot those hostages who, in their opinion, were not a supporter of the Islamic religion.

22 November 2014 of the year near the border with Somalia, armed militants seized a regular bus, took him to a deserted place and coolly shot 28 passengers - those who were not called Muslims.

2 December 2014 of the year in the same area the terrorists committed the 36 massacre of Kenyan workers (according to the organizers of the attack, all those killed were not Muslims) sleeping in a tent near the quarry.

In April of this year, a local university was captured by armed militants in the town of Garissa, the capital of the northeastern province. As in previous cases, the terrorists tried to divide hostages into Muslims and adherents of other religions, after which the latter were shot. The number of victims reached 148 people.

And this is not the only tragedy.

It is striking monstrous cruelty and an attempt to make the crimes of religious hatred and intolerance to crimes.

The main objectives of these terrorist attacks have been achieved: the tourism sector, which is one of the foundations of the economy of an African country, has been significantly undermined. And, worst of all, signs of religious tension appeared in Kenyan society, and many Christian residents of the northern provinces, much populated by Muslims, began to massively move to other areas because of fear of violence against themselves. Even many public organizations that simultaneously accused the government of failing to ensure the safety of citizens, called for a change of residence because of the threat of terror.

Responsibility for most of the attacks was claimed by the Harakat Al-Shabab Al-Mujaheddin (Movement of Young Mujahideen) movement, abbreviated as Al-Shabab. Against this armed group, which controls a large part of Somali territory, it has not been for several years, with varying success, full-scale war against both pro-government Somali formations and the forces of the international coalition. The latter is mainly represented by the AMISOM (The African Union Mission in Somalia), established in 2007 by a UN decision. Its main tool is a military group of more than 22 thousand people stationed in Somalia to assist the Somali authorities in the fight against Al-Shabab movement and to perform other tasks. The grouping consists of contingents of the following countries: Uganda, Kenya, Ethiopia, Djibouti, Burundi. Serious assistance in the fight against terror in Somalia is also provided by the United States through special operations, the provision of intelligence and other assistance. American UAVs are widely used, for which Somalia has become a testing ground.

For African governments, their participation in solving the Somali crisis is primarily due to the need to prevent the spread of terrorism and extremism into their own territories. If we talk about Kenya, whose military units are fighting in the territory of a neighboring country from 2011, then its goal is to minimize the influence of the Islamists in the border provinces of Somalia and create a so-called security buffer.

Al-Shabab immediately responded to these hostilities with the widespread terror that unfolded in Kenya in 2011, after the start of the military operation. Moreover, the perpetrators of the attacks are increasingly not only Somali saboteurs, but also Kenyan citizens from among northern ethnic groups that traditionally profess Islam and have close cultural and historical connection with Somalia. According to Nairobi, there are many among the terrorists and people of Kenyan descent who did not come from Muslim communities, but who converted to Islam and shared the radical ideology of Al-Shabab. These are very troubling signs of the expansion of the sowing death and terror structure deep into Africa.

REFUGEES - NUTRITION FOR TERRORISTS


The Somali refugees hiding in the north of Kenya are also a breeding ground for terrorists, the number of which exceeds 600 thousand people. They began arriving here in the 1992 year, after the start of the civil war in Somalia. At the same time, the camp for refugees Dadaab was built, which later became the largest in the world, where about 350 thousand people live. During the most crisis periods, the camp received 500 thousand people. A large influx of refugees occurred in 2011 – 2012, when famine caused by a prolonged drought raged in Somalia. The number of deaths from starvation, according to UN estimates, amounted to 260 thousand people, half of whom are children up to 5 years.

The living conditions in the Kenyan camps are terrible: they are overpopulated more than three times compared to the standard size, there is an acute shortage of water, the physical survival of people in some cases depends entirely on humanitarian assistance from international organizations, and crime and violence have reached enormous proportions. However, despite the regular demands of the authorities, there are few people who want to return home: even such conditions seem to be better than the Somali ones.

By the way, during the so-called migration crisis that erupted in the EU in 2015, about 1 million migrants to the Old World are expected to arrive. Of course, it is a pity for all people, but these are 2% of the total number of refugees in the world, which, according to the UN, there are more than 50 million people. And this million 28 states of the European Union - not the poorest countries in the world - will be received. But if this is a crisis that has become one of the most covered events in the world, then how can you name the situation in Africa, where refugees and displaced persons, according to various sources, are from 15 to 25 million people?

FROM WHERE I HAVE SENT "ASH-SHABAB"


The history of the civil war in Somalia, as well as international operations on the territory of this country, has more than 20 years, and their chronicle deserves a separate analysis. However, no less interesting is the question of how and why the mentioned Al-Shabab group emerged, which managed to take control of vast territories and achieve serious success in the military and political component. An analysis of this phenomenon using the example of Somalia allows us to understand many of the phenomena occurring today in Africa and the Middle East. One thing is clear - their success would be impossible without the support of a significant part of the local population.

Somalia is one of the most socially difficult communities in Africa with a clan structure, which largely determined the further development of this country. The title ethnos - Somalis - consists of 5 main tribes (dir, darod, haviye, rahanwein and isaac), which in turn are divided into clans, sub-clans and families. They are heterogeneous, differ in lifestyle, colloquial dialects and other signs.

Although almost all Somalis are Sunni Muslims of the Shafi mazhab, the institution of tribal customs and traditions is a very important element in everyday life, often playing a major role in the organization of society. This applies to issues of self-government, relations between tribes and clans, a number of cultural elements - for example, ancient folk holidays or the worship of rain. In addition to the Somalis themselves, there are national minorities in the form of small (no more than 5% of the total) ethnic groups, mainly in the south of the country.

As a result, the Somali nation has never represented a single community, and tribal and clan feuds have always been here. The main reasons for this hostility are the struggle for fertile territories, pastures, water sources, centers of concentration of economic activity (large markets, ports, etc.). It is logical that a higher position in the social and economic structure of society has always been occupied by stronger and more numerous tribes, and the social status of a Somalian is largely determined by its membership in a particular clan. In the minds of the overwhelming majority of the population, the clan has always been the main institution that can be trusted, and government structures are viewed as something alien and hostile.


European military and law enforcement agencies managed to significantly reduce the threat from the pirates and stop the transportation of African illegal immigrants by sea. Photos from www.eunavfor.eu

Most of the Somalis are nomads who are in constant movement, therefore the clear boundaries of tribal control over certain areas of the territory are not defined.

With independence in 1960, the state was significantly transformed, but the main principle in the form of preserving the traditional way of life was preserved.

Perhaps the only factor capable of consolidating Somali tribes is the so-called idea of ​​the Great Somalia. It is the need to join the country of the territories of Ethiopia, Kenya and Djibouti, where ethnic Somalis traditionally live. This is not dictated by imperial ambitions, but by the reluctance to recognize the boundaries drawn by the former colonialists who divided the Somali people and thus created the groundwork for future conflicts that have repeatedly occurred in the past.

For example, the problem area of ​​the border with Kenya was laid by the British back in 1925 by agreement with Italy. Then the ethnic and religious factors were not taken into account at all, with the result that the Somalis found themselves in two different states. The control of the Kenyan authorities outside the state border is very weak today, and movement between countries is almost free, which entails many negative aspects, including in the form of endless smuggling flows weapons. Any attempt by Nairobi to strengthen the northern borders is met with protest by both official Mogadishu and the local population on both sides of the border. To some extent, they can be understood: the border divides many families and clans, so its closure will create huge problems for them. A similar situation is observed on many other African borders, which creates enormous problems and repeatedly causes wars and conflicts.

An attempt to unite the country with the help of state institutions was undertaken during the reign of the military led by President Mohammed Siad Bar in 1969 – 1990. Although the government in those years largely relied on the clan principle, the internal situation was significantly stabilized for several years. The key factors for this were the widespread assistance of various kinds from the USSR, the harsh repressive policies of the central government, the smoothing of tribal contradictions at the expense of the very general idea of ​​Greater Somalia. The latter resulted in a bloody war with Ethiopia in the 1977 – 1978 years, ending in the defeat of Somalia. However, the weakening of Soviet aid, the deterioration of the general socio-economic situation and the weakening of the central authorities in the late 1980s led to the beginning of a civil war and the fall of the government. The institution of the state itself, as an element alien to Somali society, has virtually ceased to exist, and the country since the beginning of the 1990s plunged into an inter-clan war, which no one has become the absolute winner of. As before, the main cause of internal conflicts between clans and groups is economic resources.

True, now the region is flooded with a huge number of modern weapons, and the clan confrontation has become more violent and bloody: the number of dead exceeded 1 million people. Active intervention in the civil war was on the part of Ethiopia and the United States, and from 2011 onwards, Kenya.

The main result of the war, which has not ceased to this day, is the absence of a government controlling the entire territory, incessant civil strife, economic degradation, an extremely low standard of living, the division of the country into several self-proclaimed states. Somaliland in the north with the capital in the city of Hargeisa, which is the area of ​​residence of the Isaac tribe, managed to achieve the greatest autonomy.

As for the Islamists, they appeared in Somalia in 1982, when Al-Itihad Al-Islami was established (from the Arabic, the Islamic Union). She positioned herself as an opposition movement and carried out propaganda work among the population, calling for strict observance of traditional religious laws and increasing the role of religious institutions in society.

This grouping could not achieve serious political influence. First, the military regime, although it declared its respect for religious traditions, did not tolerate the slightest attempts of the Muslim clergy to interfere in politics and brutally suppressed them. Secondly, and no less important, the declared calls and principles of the Islamists were alien to Somali society, where along with religious canons tribal traditions and customs are widely represented as a way of life. In addition, the Somalis - the people of poets and musicians who love noisy holidays, dances and festivities, and, for example, the use of kata is considered an integral attribute of the majority of people in the country. Therefore, abstinence and a modest lifestyle, aimed at strict observance of Sharia law, as one of the main directions declared by Islamists, then did not find support among the general population.

But at the beginning of 1990, when Al-Itihad Al-Islami re-entered the stage, the situation changed. In the early years of the civil war, the organization failed to achieve major military successes, entrenched in several localities in different parts of the country, and in 1996, its positions were finally defeated by rival groups and Ethiopian troops, and the structure under this name ceased to exist.

Significantly another. Established in localities, the Islamists put into practice the principles of deeper implementation of religious laws in public life. Exercises that were close to the hanbalistic madhhab, non-traditional for Somalia, were being distributed as being more strict in terms of Sharia law and less tolerant of national customs, referred to in Islamic law as “adat”. In practice, this was expressed in the rigid management of territories, the introduction of religious sciences in educational institutions, the ban on the use of kata and tobacco, mass festivities and dances, in strict control of residents' observance of holy fasting, prayers and other religious precepts, wearing clothes, behavior, etc. d. Public executions for crimes, including by cutting off limbs, have become frequent occurrences. Many traditional holidays that go back to the traditions of the tribes were banned, there were cases of destruction of ancient monuments and places of worship.

Of course, all this is not traditional for Somalia and at first glance is perceived as medieval barbarism. But it was then that similar methods of management were supported by many citizens.

The harsh methods of administering the Islamists were able to significantly calm the situation in the territories under their control, which during the civil war was characterized as lawlessness and chaos. In fact, power in the “Somali Emirates” belonged to religious leaders, and not to field commanders and gangs, as in the rest of the country, which irritated a large part of the population, tired of endless war. Of course, radicals should not be idealized, but their cruelty turned out to be more attractive than rampant, robbery and arbitrariness of armed groups. Thus, the principle that in several years will work in Afghanistan when the Taliban seizes power, and then to some extent in Iraq while the influence of the Islamic State grouping is spreading against the background of general chaos and war, has worked.

Another factor in the attractiveness of the Islamists, especially significant in Africa, is their proposed alternative social structure. As is known, many tribes and ethnic groups, including those in the Horn of Africa, are caste and rigidly structured communities, where weaker groups occupy a low and subordinate position compared to stronger ones.

And in the conditions of the civil war in Somalia and the associated chaos, mutual genocide, poverty and famine, the law of the jungle in the literal sense began to operate in the country, where the strongest survived. Therefore, clan membership often became a matter of physical existence for many people.

But the system declared by the Islamists was significantly different from the traditional African: according to Sharia, all members of the Islamic Ummah are equal, and Islam does not recognize the caste system of organizing society as such. In other words, the last ragged one who joins the ranks of the Islamists is theoretically equal in rights even with the main caliph of all devout Muslims. Of course, in practice among the Islamists there is corruption and the clan system in one form or another, but the proposed slogans on equality and readiness to admit everyone regardless of ethnic and clan membership in Somalia was very attractive, especially among young people. Hence the name of the movement “Al-Shabab”, which means “youth” translated from the Arabic language. It is noteworthy that the backbone of the groups in the early years were immigrants from weaker and deprived clans and tribes, dissatisfied with their social status within the Somali community.

TACTICS OF KOMARINIAN BITES


These reasons largely determined the continued success of the next Islamist organization, Al-Itihad Al-Muhakim Al-Islamia (from the Arabic, the Union of Islamic Courts), which replaced the defeated Al-Itihad Al-Islam.

As the name implies, it was a system of Sharia courts that spread in the country's settlements in the second half of the 1990-s, which later began to seize power in the territories and carry out military operations against competitors for power, and in the middle of the 2000s, declared their spread power across Somalia. At the same time, they were already accompanied by military success, mainly due to the lack of unity in the clan groupings opposing them. By the end of 2006, the Islamic Courts extended their influence almost throughout the country, with the exception of Somaliland and Puntland.

However, then Ethiopian troops played a decisive role with the support of aviation and US special forces that invaded Somalia and in the first half of 2007 managed to dislodge the Islamists from the main settlements. Then the aforementioned AMISOM mission took effect.

As for the Islamists, despite a series of military defeats, they have not gone away, united under the new name “Al-Shabab” and turning to the tactics of “mosquito bites,” as Western analysts call it. It consists in rejecting large-scale clashes and attacking weaker places, acts of terrorism against security forces and government organizations. The relative control of the government is organized only in large cities; in rural areas, Al-Shabab positions are very strong. The activity of military operations conducted by the Islamists, as well as the methods of their commission, is expanding, the number of casualties among the AMISOM contingent and among pro-government forces is growing. A common element has become combined attacks with the use of suicide bombers and the subsequent attack of armed groups on protected objects. In addition, propaganda work is being improved, which is carried out in the territories of neighboring countries in different languages, as a result of which the number of supporters is growing. Adaptation of Islamists to the Somali realities also contributes to propaganda success: in particular, the unleashed terror in Kenya is presented as a practical embodiment of the long-held dream of the Great Somalia, only under religious slogans and banners.

Measures opposed to Islamists by African neighbors are certainly effective, but insufficient and not fully adapted to changing conditions and tactics. Therefore, the Somali crisis is far from over. The danger posed by this country is still high. In addition, questions are being considered regarding the deployment of military contingents from European countries in order to stabilize the situation.

The causes of the situation prevailing in the Horn of Africa are multifaceted, they are due to history, ethnic features and an important strategic position, which made the region attractive to world powers in order to spread its influence. The result was a flood of his weapons and provoking conflicts.

However, in Africa there are states that show success in their development and demonstrate successful growth rates, including in recent years. There are many examples of the peaceful life of representatives of various religions in one state without manifestation of extremism and radicalism. And the main condition for this is not to impose Western values ​​in the form of overthrowing the ruling regimes or imposing sanctions, but at least non-interference in the internal affairs of the countries of the Black Continent.
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  1. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 21 November 2015 16: 41 New
    +8
    Let the Russians not be touched ....! It will be a pity for the Negroff .. hi
    1. cniza
      cniza 21 November 2015 16: 54 New
      +9
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Let the Russians not be touched ....! It will be a pity for the Negroff .. hi



      There was always chaos and our fleet worked out great, then you knew what period, and now I hope the status quo will be restored.
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    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 21 November 2015 17: 09 New
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      Quote: MIKHAN
      Let the Russians not be touched ....! It will be a pity for the Negroff .. hi

      So during the terrorist attack in Mali, 6 Russians were killed, the embassy confirmed Somalia, Ethiopia, Mali, etc. the Black Maghreb countries are monstrously poor and at one time all kinds of France, Belgium, Italy, Portugal and other civilized rulers frolic there, well, where poverty along with hunger, there is radical Islam and piracy and Ebola fever with aids, from such a life we ​​really or to Europe to the former masters or to piracy.
      1. 3officer
        3officer 21 November 2015 17: 25 New
        +3
        I agree .. but in the Ebola and AIDS epidemics the guilt of the colonialists is not obvious) crying
    4. Tor5
      Tor5 21 November 2015 17: 10 New
      +1
      Well, let them stop what and where they want - they are not a decree for us!
    5. vovanpain
      vovanpain 21 November 2015 17: 40 New
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      However, in Africa there are states that show success in their development and demonstrate successful growth rates, including in recent years. There are many examples of the peaceful life of representatives of various religions in one state without manifestation of extremism and radicalism. And the main condition for this is not to impose Western values ​​in the form of overthrowing the ruling regimes or imposing sanctions, but at least non-interference in the internal affairs of the countries of the Black Continent.

      Yes, unfortunately, it will not work, where there are successes in development, there will immediately be multinational companies and other amateurs to rob, and from poverty and hunger you will not only throw yourself at the tanker.
    6. 123_123
      123_123 21 November 2015 20: 32 New
      -1
      It would be nice to support the pirate endeavors of some groups. and money and weapons. maybe preparation. The main oil tanker traffic to Europe from the Gulf countries goes through the Bab el-Mandeb Strait, just past the coast of Somalia. Thus, it will be possible to better control oil prices. traffic of Russian ships there is negligible.
      1. 3officer
        3officer 21 November 2015 22: 47 New
        0
        Yes, but there is a danger that the Pirates themselves will control prices .. and suddenly they will start selling oil for less than $ 45 per barrel .. how do you make the budget for the iPhone for the year, again Shoigu, help the VKS! soldier
        She's risky laughing
    7. Asadullah
      Asadullah 21 November 2015 21: 15 New
      +3
      It will be a pity for the Negroff.


      Oh well them, after working in Africa, I became a thoroughbred racist. No pity. Moreover, I will reveal a terrible secret, the world will not lose anything. Least....
  2. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 21 November 2015 16: 41 New
    +4
    The guerrilla war of Islamists in Somalia is called "mosquito bites". Such tactics keep the enemy in good shape, cause damage and infuriate his leadership. Like a mosquito in the summer night in the bedroom ...
  3. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 21 November 2015 16: 50 New
    +7
    colossal resources are attracted. So, the annual budget of one Atalanta operation currently stands at 7,35 million euros

    Seven lyamas are not such "colossal resources." request In general, a monstrously impoverished region, with constant elementary hunger. There you will not only start boarding the tanker.
    1. 3officer
      3officer 21 November 2015 17: 04 New
      +4
      Yes, they had "Hochma" at night mixed up the military board with the bulk laughing Hunger is not aunt!
    2. zennon
      zennon 21 November 2015 17: 50 New
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      Quote: Vladimirets
      In general, a monstrously impoverished region, with constant elementary hunger.

      Negroes don’t want to work like that. Only robbery. And enough gundey about colonialism. Many countries have been colonized in their history. We paid 200 years to the Mongols. The Spaniards have been under the Moors for almost 800 years. So what? We also have to show the Mongols? The problem is stupidity and laziness of blacks. They are to blame for their troubles, only they are not!
      However, there are states in Africa that show success in their development and demonstrate successful growth indicators, including in recent years.

      This is what ?! It doesn’t smell of any success. Everything that Negroes can do is multiply and beg.
      1. retardu
        retardu 21 November 2015 18: 42 New
        +4
        Full rights, African countries can develop only under the whip. Otherwise miracles work
      2. 3officer
        3officer 21 November 2015 18: 48 New
        +1
        Well there, in general, everything turned out to be somehow unsuccessful laughing
        And present the Mongols .. so they have nothing short of horses but take nothing. Moreover, blacks are in line .. there are good old Balts in a European court serving us for the Soviet "occupation"
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      4. creak
        creak 22 November 2015 15: 43 New
        +2
        Quote: zennon
        What are these ?! There are no successes


        What are you? And, for example, the successes of Zimbabwe after this is the so-called the state ceased to be Southern Rhodesia and got rid of white farmers? Such records were set by independent leader R. Mugabe, who threw off the colonial yoke that so far nobody has been able to repeat them lol
        1. 3officer
          3officer 22 November 2015 21: 21 New
          +1
          + wassat Yeah .. Mugabe is really an ambitious person just an African-style standard! And as for repeating, there is no limit to "perfection", the main thing is what to strive forwassat
  4. PQ-18
    PQ-18 21 November 2015 16: 53 New
    0
    naughty cannibals piracy ... belay
  5. slaw14
    slaw14 21 November 2015 17: 09 New
    10
    Yes, I sometimes feel sorry for these cannibals, I apologize for the children. Their work is too harmful
    1. 3officer
      3officer 21 November 2015 17: 28 New
      +7
      Well, here’s the difference between the Navy and the bourgeois Navy. Our Aboriginal people were removed from the boat after all, for delivery to the bullpen, the “humanists” would not bother.
  6. zakamsk1971
    zakamsk1971 21 November 2015 17: 32 New
    +8
    Why do we need Somalia ?! Our north of Russia is cut off from the mainland - no roads, no aircraft! Well them to the devil, N. Grove! It’s necessary to restore order at home.
    1. 3officer
      3officer 21 November 2015 17: 41 New
      +3
      Yes, there was a fashion a few years ago, again, United Seeksi Boys was promoted, the Maritime Conventions were overtaxed, dredges on PMCs and escorted ships were cut. In short, the project “Terrible Pirates Threat to the World” recaptured the margin request
    2. esaul1950
      esaul1950 21 November 2015 17: 57 New
      +3
      If you do not solve the problems with blacks in Somalia, Ethiopia, etc. etc., then these problems will come to us .....
      1. 3officer
        3officer 21 November 2015 18: 01 New
        +4
        Hmm .. funny laughing But there, even the Russian Aerospace Forces will not help, soon to the Strategic Missile Forces.
        And this is ... Negroes, cannibal-cannibals - it might not be tolerant - Afro-Africans laughing
      2. asiat_61
        asiat_61 22 November 2015 04: 36 New
        +1
        No man, no problem.
  7. crazy_fencer
    crazy_fencer 21 November 2015 17: 52 New
    +3
    Quote: 3officer
    In short, the project "Terrible Pirates Threat to the World" recaptured the margin request


    Yes, and so far has been successful. In general, the whole project is supported by two types of business: (1) insurance and (2) security. Very successful, and the competition in this market, especially security, still be healthy.
  8. Odysseus
    Odysseus 21 November 2015 18: 24 New
    +3
    For those interested, a modern map of Somalia
    It is easy to see that there is simply no single Somalia (that’s why the concept of “Somali pirates” is somewhat vague). It’s just that the strongest states in the world, primarily the USA, are not interested in fixing the collapse of the state, therefore, there is still such concept as "United Somalia"
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 21 November 2015 18: 44 New
      +5
      Wherever the United States with the EU and other advocates of democracy fit in everywhere, they leave behind themselves even greater devastation and the expansion of the gangster-terrorist network.
      Were the United States in Somalia and what have you achieved? They got the priest and fled, and then half the world "dealt" with the pirates and is still "dealt" with various groups sworn to Al-Qaeda.
      1. Odysseus
        Odysseus 21 November 2015 18: 56 New
        +4
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Wherever the United States with the EU and other advocates of democracy fit in everywhere, they leave behind themselves even greater devastation and the expansion of the gangster-terrorist network.

        USA + Israel (this is actually a single state), the EU is six.
        At the last stage of the existence of capitalism (globalism), the US goal is not to conquer new markets (there simply aren’t any left), but to maintain its dominant position, therefore we need to weaken and pit all our opponents and competitors. Hence the strategy of “controlled chaos”, when countries and whole regions are plunged into a state of permanent conflict, while the United States remains a salvation island of stability for the "international rich."
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 21 November 2015 19: 26 New
          +1
          Quote: Odyssey
          At the last stage of the existence of capitalism (globalism), the US goal is not to conquer new markets (they simply did not remain), but to maintain its dominant position, therefore, we must weaken and pit all our opponents and competitors

          I agree that the United States primarily have instability and war in the world and always away from its borders, in fact, they created an enclave in which although cataclysms occur, it’s exclusively natural from here and a developed industry that has not known for 200 years and money investments that flow there "river "and so to say" brains "who are looking for a" safe haven. "
          In fact, the EU and another democracy advocate, Israel, will be sacrificed to US policy.
          I wonder what will happen to us?
  9. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 21 November 2015 18: 44 New
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    ha ha i neighing a black hole and blacks so they are so black
    1. 3officer
      3officer 21 November 2015 19: 54 New
      +1
      Well, yes, it’s logical all blacks, the hole is also black, respectively, but the question is where do we have in the budget
      the same blacks (officials) something like no ?!
  10. Aklyakhin
    Aklyakhin 21 November 2015 18: 52 New
    +2
    You read about Somalia and involuntarily there are parallels with Ukraine: "the Somali nation never represented a single community" .... "the idea of ​​Great Somalia" (United Ukraine) .... "unwillingness to recognize the borders drawn by the former" ... ( historical).
    ... "in the late 1980s (20 years of independence) led to the outbreak of civil war" ... ... "the main cause of internal conflicts between clans and factions are economic resources" ...
    ... "Now the region is awash with a huge amount of modern weapons" ...
    (And what awaits our Ukraine?) ... "The main outcome of the war (in Somalia or in Ukraine?), Which has not been stopped so far, is the absence of a government that controls the entire territory, ongoing strife, economic degradation, and an extremely low standard of living for the population , the division of the country into several self-proclaimed states. "
  11. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 21 November 2015 19: 41 New
    +2
    Somalia, this is what Amers need, so that the geyropa, China would not grow without their permission
  12. Barakuda
    Barakuda 21 November 2015 19: 50 New
    +2
    "Zhmurki" I think everyone saw it. I am Russian. And I have never been to Ethiopia.
  13. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 21 November 2015 20: 01 New
    +2
    The same model of conflict building, with options. This was the Arab spring and few people saw that it was manageable. But now this situation is spreading throughout Europe, and they don’t want to understand that they will be swept away like LIVIA. Or else so - there was once a "Madhouse" German, where the connection between the members of the European government and the corporation in the USA was very well explained.
  14. cormorant
    cormorant 21 November 2015 20: 02 New
    +1
    I personally confirm. In the Somalia area, the last couple of years have seen pirates drop by an order of magnitude. If before, there were times that ships were seized almost every day, now once a month and then only an attempt to capture.
  15. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 22 November 2015 08: 13 New
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    It is probably already clear to everyone what is behind the running Zusuls with machine guns, not the soul of a robber! As always, the strings stretch to other places.