The gunners worked "Fire carousel" in the Chelyabinsk region

During the military training, the Central Military District gunners for the first time used a new method of defeating the enemy, called the “Fire Carousel”, reports MIC with reference to the district press service.

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“At the Chebarkul test site in the Chelyabinsk region, calculations of reactive systems of volley fire“ Grad ”, mortar complexes“ Sani ”and 152-mm self-propelled artillery“ Acacia ”, after producing volleys with concentrated fire, successively replaced each other in previously prepared positions. This method disorients the enemy, provides a high degree of fire damage ",

quoted by the press service of the chief of the rocket forces and artillery of the district Alexander Glushchenko.

According to the general, the troops subordinate to him "this year conducted around 200 tactical exercises with live firing, more than 50 thousand missiles, mines and shells were spent."

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[iliitchitch]

200 teachings, not sickly, frankly. Actually, the bourgeoisie thinks that they have isolated Russia, but in fact Russia is preparing to isolate the West, it’s sickening to look at these lying faces.

[Patriot 1]

Oh sorry psaki on maternity leave .... This is her favorite topic about the "carousel"

[Yuyuka]

how would that sound? - Russia has a new weapon "Carousel", from which children are forced to shoot! Used diapers are used as ammunition! We demand to ban the supply of diapers as dual-use products!

[hrapon]

Quote: Yuyuka

: - Russia has a new weapon "Carousel", from which children are forced to shoot!

Colleague, be careful with the words. Tomorrow you will seriously begin to quote in the State Department, and then Reuters, Times and Unian.

[Yuyuka]

Colleague, be careful with the words. Tomorrow you will seriously begin to quote in the State Department, and then Reuters, Times and Unian.

Duck I'm trying to get in direct contact with the State Department maybe they can help them write texts, or else they have a failure after leaving Psaki - it's still not interesting to look at a man who is puffed up to surpass Jane, beloved by Lavrov and all our people.

[igordok]

Quote: hrapon

Colleague, be careful with the words. Tomorrow you will seriously begin to quote in the State Department, and then Reuters, Times and Unian.

The name "Carousel" is already taken,

Carousel - weapons stabilizer SVU-500

[Shveps]

Quote: iliitch

Xnumx teachings, not sickly

In accordance with BP plans, battalion (artillery division) combat shooting exercises are held 1 times per training period. In CVO 2-Abr, 1-ReAbr subordinate to the chief of the missile forces and artillery of the district Alexander Glushchenko, i.e. to 12 art divisions.
200 exercises and even with live firing! What is it like? Pressure on fragile minds? Maybe he confuses planned training firing with exercises? Or was Sasha Glushchenko misled as Serdyukov? Isn’t it time to stop promoting every right sneeze in the media, silent that the system (pogrom of the Army) introduced by Serdyukov - unchanged, with external varnishing due to normal combat training of the remnants of RA.

“Kum, do you know why the Russians drink the most alcohol?”
“Well, and why?”
- They wipe their contacts in the brain for better communication with the Ostankino television tower.

[Col.]

Quote: Shveps

- They wipe their contacts in the brain for better communication with the Ostankino television tower.

Yes, very many have already been hooked on the Ostankino needle. The number of ducks is growing. The media regularly support the people the mood necessary for the authorities.

Politics, ultimately, is the science of deceiving ordinary people.
- George Alexandrov

[Yuri Y.]

Quote: Shveps

Pressure on fragile minds?

What do you need to do this "echo of matzo". What is the difference planned or not planned, they are engaged.

[rotmistr60]

support among the people the mood necessary for the authorities.

Reports on the operation in Syria for your support of the "right mood"? Strange position.

[Col.]

Quote: rotmistr60

Reports on the operation in Syria for your support of the "right mood"? Strange position.

No, I had in mind the systematic work of the media, propaganda in the broad sense. Syria is a separate issue, here I, as an officer (albeit in reserve), with two hands FOR!

[rotmistr60]

I meant the systematic work of the media

Judging by your status (editor) and nickname (colonel), we can assume that you once studied at the Novosibirsk Higher Political School at the Faculty of Journalism. They served in the army (district) newspaper. If my assumptions are true, then to whom, no matter how you know the systematic work of the media, and why it (work) is needed. Therefore, all according to the prevailing laws of information.

[Col.]

Quote: rotmistr60

it can be assumed that you once studied at the Novosibirsk Higher Political School at the Faculty of Journalism.

If you really watched my status, you should have seen where I studied ...

[alex86]

Quote: Colonel

No, I had in mind the systematic work of the media, propaganda in the broad sense.

But you don’t need to make excuses, the local lovers to build everyone in this rank are just waiting for this - of course, the country has been hooked on the TV needle, an independent point of view will not break through, a free thought will again move to the kitchen - and those in power would think about how it ended the last time .

[Aleks tv]

Quote: Shveps

In accordance with BP plans, battalion (artillery division) combat shooting exercises are held 1 times per training period. In CVO 2-Abr, 1-ReAbr subordinate to the chief of the missile forces and artillery of the district Alexander Glushchenko, i.e. to 12 art divisions.
200 exercises and even with live firing! What is it like? Pressure on fragile minds? Maybe he confuses planned training firing with exercises?

Ordinary "journalistic phrases", nothing ordinary.

Of course, doctrine and study, and not only art.
But in any case, Chebarkul RULIT. Everything is really boiling there now.
Good luck guys.

[Altona]

Quote: Shveps

“Kum, do you know why the Russians drink the most alcohol?”
“Well, and why?”
- They wipe their contacts in the brain for better communication with the Ostankino television tower.

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And you could not do without insults? Or are you a level 80 intergalactic white all-knowing knight?

[Vladimirets]

Interestingly, wrapping around self-propelled guns with bushes has some sacred meaning?

[iliitchitch]

This is not to mess around in anticipation of the command "fire", the personnel plowed.

[WUA 518]

Russian 152-mm self-propelled guns 2S3 "Akatsia" fire at Georgian positions in the Dzhavsky region on August 9, 2008.

[GOgaRu]

Quote: Vladimirets

Interestingly, wrapping around self-propelled guns with bushes has some sacred meaning?

It was supposed to be masked, but there was not enough money to mass.

[Saliks]

Disguise is pumped by 10%.

[IgorV]

The camouflage is correct for a quick change of position, but until you turn the mask off, then deploy it again, and then raked the branches and that's it.

[GOgaRu]

Quote: GOgaRu

Quote: Vladimirets

Interestingly, wrapping around self-propelled guns with bushes has some sacred meaning?

It was supposed to be masked, but there was not enough money to mass.

And what claims to me ?! Shoigu write, an e-mail: "SG, the army does not have enough masseti for everyone, you have to destroy nature - your mother (our)!"

[Proud.]

Quote: Vladimirets

Interestingly, wrapping around self-propelled guns with bushes has some sacred meaning?

If you encircle the branches of acacia, then yes. Laying around with other green spaces symbolizes the merger of the forces of Nature and Man (albeit in a mechanized form) .

[Bashibuzuk]

How rude and mundane - they lay branches ... fi-and-and-and
They cover the wolf with flags, the enemy with ambushes, the adversary with shit.
...
And our beautiful cars dress up in "Lelya wreaths" - green, cheerful, promising new life!
Afterlife - for the enemy.
...
I think so.

[DenZ]

"Carousel, carousel is my joy, take a ride on our carousel" - something nostalgia found.

[mark2]

Our beloved Jane Psaki was interested in what an election carousel is. Here she is! In action. Russian artillerymen choose which means of destruction of a potential "partner" will be most effective. Everything! All means are good!

[Alexei]

Carousel, merry-go-round - whoever succeeded that priel.

[venaya]

"This year, they conducted about 200 tactical exercises with live firing, more than 50 thousand missiles, mines and shells were spent."

Do not rot the ammunition in warehouses and storages, and something should be allowed into the matter. Today, the most important thing to consider is combat training.

[Col.]

Quote: venaya

Do not rot the ammunition in warehouses and storages, and something should be allowed into the matter.

I found an interesting message left by a very authoritative person:
As you know, a meeting was recently held at the National Center for Defense Management of the Russian Federation, in which V. Putin took part and which was shown on many television channels.

During this meeting, slides showing the operational situation were shown on a large screen. And on one slide entitled "Actions of the SAR Armed Forces in the area of ​​the settlement of MKHIN" an interesting inscription was found: "5 gabatr 120 abr 2 A65" Msta-B "6 o. From 14.00 6.11"

Translated into ordinary language, this means: "5th howitzer artillery battery of the 120th artillery brigade 152-mm towed howitzers 2A65" Msta-B "6 guns have been in positions since 14.00:6 on November 2015, 120". The place of permanent deployment of the XNUMXth Guards Red Banner Volgograd Order of Suvorov II degree of a separate artillery brigade is the city of Yurga, Kemerovo Region.

I don’t think anyone will say that this is a fake and the 120 artillery brigade has nothing to do with the Russian army.
Who has any opinions? It’s me that our leadership denies the participation of Russian ground forces.

[MT266]

this coincidence the Syrians also have such a division about it they talked about the central heating

[venaya]

Quote: Colonel

... our leadership denies the participation of Russian ground forces.

Personally, I did not notice any denial. Now there are new combat complexes in Syria, and not only can they not find specialists for them in all of Syria, they also need to be protected, like airplanes. Now no one wants to introduce massive military formations, but in some cases ground forces can’t do without it, everyone understands this. The main question: do not stick in as in Agana and only, but some parts are already in place. I think that it makes no sense to raise a panic about this, it is simply important to act carefully.

[iliitchitch]

100%, our land operation will be there, I think. Now, if we don’t carry it out, then we’ll definitely stick in. Do not play around.

[PQ-18]

"LOST!"

[hrapon]

[quote = colonel] [quote = venaya]
[quote] Who has any opinions? It's me that our leadership denies the participation of Russian ground forces. [/ Quote] [/ quote]

You are our big-eyed. Have you decided to "catch" our leadership?

I recommend my colleagues to recall the words of V. Vysotsky's song: "It's not that I don't know - you can't tell ...".

Very rude intelligence.

[Uncle lee]

Fireworks in honor of the Festival of the God of War!

[Aleks69]

In Syria, such a method should be applied

[corporal]

successively replaced each other in previously prepared positions.
I did not understand, on the same position, different units, or from different pre-prepared?
For in the first case, it's complete nonsense. The position is already "highlighted".

[smel]

Corporal, bravo !!! In my opinion this is real nonsense. For such matters, the demand must be serious. It doesn’t matter to the enemy what kind of battery there is ... If only it were ... After the firing position was detected, there can only be suicide bombers. And in the ACU (Combat Charter of artillery) everything is written. It is only necessary to perform.

[Yuyuka]

Quote: smel

Corporal, bravo !!! In my opinion this is real nonsense. For such matters, the demand must be serious. It doesn’t matter to the enemy what kind of battery there is ... If only it were ... After the firing position was detected, there can only be suicide bombers. And in the ACU (Combat Charter of artillery) everything is written. It is only necessary to perform.

if I understand correctly, there’s a conversation about POSITIONS, and not a position - that is: successively replaced each other in previously prepared positions.
Can you imagine the time to leave the position and to arrive ?? direct supermarket on sales days most likely, we are talking about the fact that different artillery systems are at different positions - some strike, others wait, after which they strike, and those who shoot would quickly unwind, which is why the "carousel" in the enemy's brains - they do not know where exactly the next strike will be and with what sides to detect the shelling ... somehow I understand

[Yuyuka]

successively replaced each other in advance prepared positions.
belay I did not understand in one position different units, or from different pre-prepared?
For in the first case, it's complete nonsense. The position is already "highlighted".

that’s the whole difference

[Bashibuzuk]

People, do not worry.
Geographical position and position fire - Different things.
You can prepare different positions in advance, of course. But they mean, usually, fire.
What the article discusses is maneuver by fire.
It is also possible to maneuver with the FIRE positions - check the "make-up-break-out" speed.
...
In any case, a good job.

[Kolka82]

Yes, this is not a Dog's "election carousel"

[Chills]

Poetic how. Are there any plans for the preparation of "Winged Swing", "Stush-Kutusha", "The Adventures of Buratino"?

[kil 31]

Quote: Oznob

Poetic how. Are there any plans for the preparation of "Winged Swing", "Stush-Kutusha", "The Adventures of Buratino"?

The adventures of Pinocchio 2 are now in Syria against Stush Kutush.

[Flinky]

Psaki in horror, here it is, a real carousel then :)

[GOgaRu]

after the production of volleys by concentrated fire, successively replaced each other in previously prepared positions. This method disorientates the enemy, provides a high degree of fire damage.

To be honest, I didn’t drive to the end: what is the enormous combat value of this technique? And its difference from the usual change of position?

[MT266]

this is a "terrible military secret", as well as swings, shape-shifters, full swinging, etc.

[Ze Kot]

Quote: GOgaRu

after the production of volleys by concentrated fire, successively replaced each other in previously prepared positions. This method disorientates the enemy, provides a high degree of fire damage.

To be honest, I didn’t drive to the end: what is the enormous combat value of this technique? And its difference from the usual change of position?

I have not read the "BUA", but I think that this means that after a salvo one or several batteries / guns are moved to other positions while the rest are firing. After that, those who moved open fire, and those who remained move to new positions under cover of fire.

[Aleks tv]

Quote: GOgaRu

after the production of volleys by concentrated fire, successively replaced each other in previously prepared positions. This method disorientates the enemy, provides a high degree of fire damage.

To be honest, I didn’t drive to the end: what is the enormous combat value of this technique? And its difference from the usual change of position?

Fiery carousel - there are several)))
In this case - frolic art, the NIS has the concept of CO (concentrated fire). This is when the entire battery is pounding under one bush (!) Pre-shot (or the data for firing is prepared in advance).
In short, in practice, it looks like death to flies - nothing remains alive under this bush.

Now imagine that Gradov’s battery has run out of CO, and right there they started to work out CO from the Sled, located in a completely different position (and the Grads at this moment are unloading together). Only the Sleds fired a salvo-two ... as the same area of ​​the SB began to plow Acacia (and the Sleds also flee from their positions).

1. The work of contraband shooting goes astray,
2. There is no chance to survive the enemy in the area of ​​the CO, (several CO)
3. Maximum survival of the art itself.

Somehow, if "roughly and in a nutshell", he did not blur out anything superfluous.
Happy holiday to you, Guys.

[Yuyuka]

Somehow, if "roughly and in a nutshell", he did not blur out anything superfluous.
Happy holiday to you, Guys.

I join in the congratulations and comments, and also I want to add - some should not make quick and categorical statements about the contents of the article, I almost fell for it then I re-read it a few times more closely and made conclusions corresponding

[S_Baykala]

Quote: smel

Corporal, bravo !!! In my opinion this is real nonsense. For such matters, the demand must be serious. It doesn’t matter to the enemy what kind of battery there is ... If only it were ... After the firing position was detected, there can only be suicide bombers. And in the ACU (Combat Charter of artillery) everything is written. It is only necessary to perform.

This is not the first time that journalists incorrectly (most likely so, in this case) comment on what they do not understand or choose the wrong words. I am not an artilleryman, but I do not think that our military is so stupid that they are already occupying positions that have been "exposed". Most likely, we are talking about pre-prepared different positions, where units are moved strictly according to the schedule (each to its own position), work out and quickly shed from there. As a result, a high intensity of fire and "elusiveness" of subunits are maintained.

[GOgaRu]

Most likely, we are talking about different positions prepared in advance, where units move up strictly according to the schedule (each to its own position), work out and quickly shed from there. As a result, a high intensity of fire and "elusiveness" of subunits are maintained.

If this is the case, then the statement- "The artillerymen of the Central Military District in the course of combat training first applied a new one for yourself the method of defeating the enemy, called "Fire Carousel" "looks strange: what have they been doing before?

[starshina pv]

Gunners! -Stalin gave the order !!! "

[maxbrov74]

Chelyabinsk gunners are so harsh ...

[Aleks tv]

Quote: maxbrov74

Chelyabinsk gunners are so harsh ...

Chebarkul has always been the patrimony of the art of the whole Ural region.
They frolic there ... to the fullest.

They also need to eat, curl, they need a lot of space, so Chebarkul is their home)))

[Signaller]

Well done, one word. I thought it was difficult to come up with anything else after the "barrage", but no. we have wise heads. And we can only wish them good luck and success. Hit the enemy right on target.

[vladimirvn]

Donbass, and now also Syria, significantly raised the half-forgotten authority of the "god of war". The combination of high-tech support, with competent management, give a very effective result. The gunners are the favorites now.

[Military Builder]

Quote: iliitch

This is not to mess around in anticipation of the command "fire", the personnel plowed.

as the fathers-commanders said in my time, "A free soldier is a potential criminal."

[Wal]

It is evident that someone decided to defend a dissertation at the Mikhailovsky Academy.

[Appraiser]

Let us congratulate all gunners and missilemen on their professional holiday, which took place yesterday (November 19): "Day of the Missile Forces and Artillery". After all, the combat training of a ground artilleryman is very important and necessary. As they say "artillery" is the god of war.

[clown]

Killers of the Pacifists.

[roskot]

Again, the Russian carousel started.

[Travian]

as it is dumb, after shooting, change the position of the VTSAV where the previous ones have already worked and in fact have already lit the firing position and at that moment while you are occupying it, a "response" to the previous volley can fly there ... (((((

[Aleks tv]

Quote: Travian

as it is dumb, after shooting, change the position of the VTSAV where the previous ones have already worked and in fact have already lit the firing position and at that moment while you are occupying it, a "response" to the previous volley can fly there ... (((((

Maybe ... first, read the comments?

[Riv]

Two hundred exercises per year? Moreover, the year has not yet ended. Are they really shooting everyday ??? I don’t believe much.

[rfv0304]

"Fire carousel" in this form is simple nonsense, if not stupidity. With this name, you can hang noodles on those who simply do not know how to think, you do not even need to be an artilleryman for this.
The key word was replaced by the OPP prepared in advance. In modern conditions, reconnaissance (even instrumental, will detect these (prepared in advance) OPs. And the enemy will strike at them. That is, there is a very high probability of hitting the same self-propelled guns at the Gradov position, and the SANI at the Akatsia position, and so on. The OP with which they recently fired, this is just a deception of the supervising superiors. Rubbing glasses for those who do not understand anything not only in artillery but also in modern war. It’s not even bad. But from LAZH, pure water! And for the development and implementation of this "carousel" they need to not only put TWO (I mean senior commanders, not soldiers), but also specifically think about the suitability of the position!

[Yuyuka]

Maybe ... first, read the comments?

I apologize for plagiarism