American police. View from the outside

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“I what? What are you? Why are you? ”Sometimes we hear how overly brave (and often not too sober) our fellow citizens are talking with law enforcement officers, almost without having enough of them“ by the breasts ”.

What is considered mundane for Russia will not roll across the ocean. Any kind of altercation of this kind with the American “cop” ends unambiguously. Whack a baton. And stun in the side. After a couple of minutes, the battered and hushed “intruder” is already sitting humbly on the curb in handcuffs.

Particularly desperate worth trying the next entertainment. Set up a chase, then stop, and when the police get out of their cars and begin to move in, start moving again. Great chance that they will discharge the clip in the fugitive. And then prove that they were wrong.

Needlessly tough? Hardly. For some reason, it is customary to show sympathy to the person who committed the crime, and not to the victim. The criminal needs sympathy! Interestingly, at the time of the commission of the crime, he was thinking about how to deliver a minimum of inconvenience to the victim? However, this is just a philosophy.

Clear, clear instructions and effective methods of the American police - this is exactly what is worth taking note of our law enforcement officers. Coherence, excellent training and organization, giving rise to respect for people “in shape”. And who discourages any desire to prove his “toughness” in disputes with the defenders of law and order.

The police do their work “on the top five”, having all the necessary means and legal guarantees of their own safety. At the same time insuring yourself about all sorts of surprises.



A simple example is to stop the “intruder”. Everything worked out in detail. The policeman gets up behind, always turning the wheels to the left - so that he immediately starts chasing. At night, cut in a powerful searchlight. Naturally, everything that happens is recorded on the camera.

Then the whole ceremony begins. When approaching, the cop will necessarily touch the left rear headlight with his hand (he will leave his fingerprints on the car; just in case). He tries to go along the car itself, so that the driver sitting in it has the maximum obstruction and the possibility of making any provocations. Always gets up behind, hiding behind the doors. In this situation, you do not have enough time to turn around and attack the officer. He will react faster.

Everything is strictly according to the instructions. The policeman does not relax for a second. He is on duty, and this is felt in every movement.

The driver is recommended to put his hands on “ten and two”. No sudden movements and attempts to get the documents out of your pocket (even worse, dig into the glove compartment). The likelihood that an officer will get into a fuss and shoot you is small - he is an adequate person after all. But the realization of the possibility of such a scenario discourages the desire to break the rule. Hands on “ten and two”!

And now: “Your rights and registration, please”.

Obviously, he took them not to look and, with a shrug, to return them back. He will, of course, return them. But only with penalty points. And maybe it will not return: drunk driving is punishable by deprivation for two years.

Usually at this moment there is another police car nearby. Cops don't like to go it alone. They rarely inhibit violators. And such an “extraordinary” event is a reason to call for reinforcements.

American “cops” do not often slow down anyone. The system is designed in such a way that it is safe for law-abiding citizens (and, however banal it may sound, it represents a tangible threat to violators). “Kop” cannot stop anyone on the street under the pretext of “checking documents”. This is nonsense. The only thing that he will achieve is that he will be declined in both cases of the English language.

- Your name?
- you suspect me of something?
- Нет.
“Then I don’t have to tell you about it.” Goodbye.
- Have a good day.

Like their Russian colleagues, American “cops” love to ambush on the road.

But they do not like it when someone “hangs” on their tail. Seeing this, the police will immediately come out and impose a non-acidic fine. According to the officer, you are blocking his review and generally interfere with his work. So keep the interval!

By the way, the appeal "officer" does not mean that before you is a brave adjutant with epaulets. This may be the most common corporal. In this context, the Officer is just an “official”, and the place where he serves is, of course, called the “office”.

The cops themselves are divided into local, state and federal. The powers of the first two do not extend beyond their state. New York City Police Colonel for Texas police zero without a wand. Accordingly, if the violator crossed the border, the police of the neighboring state continues to chase.

Finally, if something serious has happened, the FBI and the SWAT takeover group (“UDAR” come to the rescue, means “special weapon and tactics "). However, it is already completely different. story.

“Hearts and Motors”

Police cars in the United States do not differ in luxury and variety, like the Dubai police supercars. But the fact that they have serious technology, no doubt. In confirmation - a harsh “ram” in the nose of each “polis-kara” for pushing the most obstinate and inadequate from the road.

The Police Interceptor (“Interceptor”) on the chassis of the Ford Crown Victoria remains the classic police car. Powerful and very heavy. The last of the classic sedans with a frame structure of the body. Thanks to its weight and size, indestructible strength and reliability, the “Interceptor” has earned a high reputation from law enforcement officers.



The car is equipped with the stupid American V8 engine, which, with a volume of 4,6 l, produces only 250 hp. As is known, the Yankees, unlike the Germans, do not favor the afterburner and turbocharging, preferring to save the resource. Not surprisingly, the majority of “Interceptors” have mileage over 100 thousand miles, and this is far from the limit. Beasts.

Of high technology, “Interceptor” has one curious system. Camera with automatic scanning of machine numbers with their subsequent “breaking through” through the database. Moving in the stream, the cop will quickly find out who the malicious intruder is, who hasn’t paid the fine or the registration has expired.

A few years ago, the American police had a new generation of “Interceptors” on the chassis of the Ford Taurus (365 hp). In addition to these powerful machines, unremarkable cars are used to patrol highways “under cover”. The only way to calculate them in a thick stream of cars is a gratuitous squeak of a radar detector. When you notice the police number and special equipment above the left mirror, it will be too late. He spotted that you were driving in excess.

American police. View from the outside


The American police are not perfect. Although the ideal is probably not anywhere. The “protection” of underground businesses, racism and other traditional values ​​of American cops cannot take away the main thing: recognition in society that a policeman is a force and a law. Where no one has a desire to prove the opposite.
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  1. aba
    -13
    20 November 2015 06: 21
    The probability that the officer is nervous and shoots you is small - he is still an adequate person.

    Especially since you are not a teenager. And shooting teenagers of both sexes is the cops' favorite pastime.
    1. +37
      20 November 2015 06: 47
      Quote: aba
      And shoot teenagers

      Are your hands itching to start srach?
      Want more information : MIA Staff Forum > MIA Forum > Cooperation and interaction with colleagues from other countries
      USA COPs online
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      hands on “ten and two”-if anyone didn’t understand- just hands on the steering column, and God forbid at this time to try to scratch the crotch, even if it was impatient laughing - then you will only complain to the Apostle Peter ......

      Article +although it is far from complete.
      1. +6
        20 November 2015 08: 03
        Quote: Corporal
        do not bring the Lord at this time to try to scratch the perineum, even if itch

        We do not need such jokes. And then in America, even listening to music through headphones is dangerous - they can shoot. And it is also advisable to walk with your hands raised in advance, otherwise they can also slap.
        1. +2
          20 November 2015 09: 01
          Quote: GRAY
          can shoot

          Here morons, there a couple of seconds after the shot it was clear that the artery was hooked.
        2. -54
          20 November 2015 09: 28
          In Russia it is even worse, because the majority of the people are disarmed, and almost completely can’t answer to the arbitrariness of the corrupt police.
          1. +17
            20 November 2015 10: 04
            Quote: SectaHaki
            In Russia it is even worse, because the majority of the people are disarmed, and almost completely can’t answer to the arbitrariness of the corrupt police.

            Worse than in fascist America? Truth?
            Can you recall the Bundy family?
            http://www.kontinent.org/article.php?aid=535a4cac3a091
            1. -1
              20 November 2015 10: 40
              Well, and how did this riot end when the people gathered with weapons? laughing
              a video of how the police and the feds were backing away from there, the network is ...

              Also, a video of how the police unsuccessfully sued two brothers who lawfully shot in front of their house those who were going to kill the cops, and the police did not sue what it was, but because they placed on their private property a poster with a photo of what happened visible from passing cars cars and pedestrians, and at least it was so publicized - the corrupt press could no longer ignore this fact ...
              1. +4
                20 November 2015 11: 01
                Quote: SectaHaki
                Well, and how did this riot end when the people gathered with weapons?

                And nothing that the local "not corrupt" police have been hiding under the bunk all this time?
                People in uniform are not even cops.
                1. -4
                  20 November 2015 11: 11
                  The police were there, and the cops and the feds, and these ... And the part was in olive, foreign uniforms and without insignia winked . Back when the armed people came with American flags they all gave.
                  1. +2
                    20 November 2015 11: 37
                    Quote: SectaHaki
                    The police were there, and the cops and the feds, and these ...

                    It later. Do you see at least one policeman in the video? The local sheriff and his assistants did not answer calls and completely avoided fulfilling their immediate duties.
                    And this is called "serve and protect"?
                    1. -6
                      20 November 2015 12: 23
                      But that was ... They stayed in their posts later, or they were told to do so by the "feds"?

                      Even judges are now being appointed in Russia. When they were elected, and then every second of the prisoners sat innocently, simply because he did not like him in the courtroom.
                      1. +3
                        20 November 2015 16: 11
                        On the topic of Amer cops there is a great video tutorial for afroniggs! laughing
                      2. +3
                        20 November 2015 16: 17
                        And they also have a game of "knocking out the white".
                      3. +1
                        20 November 2015 19: 18
                        minusers:
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcWYIda9m6E
                      4. 0
                        21 November 2015 05: 37
                        I respect the Canadian and American police. They do the work. Powers do not exceed.
                  2. +1
                    20 November 2015 12: 26
                    Quote: SectaHaki
                    The police were there, and the cops and the feds, and these ..

                    You, personally, no one will protect from arbitrariness. If you have a weapon, you can shoot back - then you will be killed.
                    Look, be careful there. The list of services entitled to arrest or shoot you is quite large:
                    Department of Agriculture:

                    ✦ Office of Inspector General
                    ✦ United States Forest Service
                    - US Forest Service Law Enforcement and Investigations
                    Department of Commerce:
                    ✦ Bureau of Industry and Security
                    - Office of Export Enforcement
                    ✦ National Institute of Standards and Technology
                    - National Institute of Standards and Technology Police
                    ✦ National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
                    - National Marine Fisheries Service
                    - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Fisheries Office for Law Enforcement
                    ✦ Department of Commerce Office of Security
                    ✦ Department of Commerce Office of Inspector General
                    Department of Defense:
                    ✦ Office of Inspector General
                    - Defense Criminal Investigative Service
                    ✦ Pentagon Force Protection Agency
                    - United States Pentagon Police
                    ✦Department of Defense Police
                    ✦ Defense Logistics Agency Police
                    ✦ National Security Agency Police
                    ✦ Defense Intelligence Agency Police
                    ✦ National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency Police
                    ✦ Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction
                    ✦ Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction
                    Department of the Army:
                    ✦ United States Army Criminal Investigation Command
                    ✦ United States Army Military Police Corps
                    ✦ Department of the Army Police
                    ✦ United States Army Corrections Command
                    ✦ Army Counterintelligence
                    Department of the Navy:
                    ✦ Naval Criminal Investigative Service
                    ✦ United States Marine Corps Criminal Investigation Division
                    ✦ Department of the Navy Police (civilian police)
                    ✦ Marine Corps Provost Marshal's Office (military police)
                    ✦ United States Marine Corps Police (civilian police)
                    ✦ US Navy Master-at-arms (military police)
                    Departments of the Air Force:
                    ✦ Air Force Office of Special Investigations
                    ✦ Air Force Security Forces Center
                    ✦ Air Force Security Forces (military police)
                    ✦ Department of the Air Force Police (civilian police)
                    Department of Education:
                    ✦ Office of the Inspector General
                    Department of Energy:
                    ✦ Office of Inspector General
                    ✦ Office of Health, Safety and Security
                    ✦ Office of Secure Transportation
                    Department of Health and Human Services:
                    ✦ United States Food and Drug Administration
                    - Office of Criminal Investigations
                    ✦ National Institutes of Health
                    - National Institutes of Health Police
                    ✦ Office of Inspector General
                    Department of Homeland Security:
                    ✦ Federal Law Enforcement Training Center
                    ✦National Protection and Programs Directorate
                    - Federal Protective Service
                    ✦ United States Coast Guard
                    - Coast Guard Investigative Service
                    ✦ United States Customs and Border Protection
                    - Office of Air and Marine
                    - Office of Border Patrol
                    - Office of Field Operations
                    ✦ United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement
                    - Enforcement Removal Operations
                    - Homeland Security Investigations
                    - Office of Intelligence
                    - Office of Professional Responsibility
                    ✦ United States Citizenship and Immigration Services
                    ✦ United States Secret Service
                    ✦ Transportation Security Administration
                    - Office of Law Enforcement / Federal Air Marshal Service
                    - Office of Inspection
                    1. 0
                      20 November 2015 12: 27
                      [quote] ✦ Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General
                      Department of Housing and Urban Development:
                      ✦ Office of Inspector General
                      ✦ Protective Service Division
                      Department of the Interior:
                      ✦ Bureau of Indian Affairs
                      - Bureau of Indian Affairs Police
                      ✦ Bureau of Land Management
                      - Bureau of Land Management Office of Law Enforcement
                      ✦ Bureau of Reclamation
                      - Bureau of Reclamation Office of Law Enforcement
                      - Hoover Dam Police aka Bureau of Reclamation Police
                      ✦National Park Service
                      - Division of Law Enforcement, Security and Emergency Services
                      - United States Park Police
                      ✦ Office of Inspector General
                      ✦ Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement
                      ✦ United States Fish and Wildlife Service
                      - Office of Law Enforcement
                      - Division of Refuge Law Enforcement
                      Department of Justice:
                      ✦ Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives
                      ✦ United States Drug Enforcement Administration
                      ✦ Federal Bureau of Investigation
                      - Federal Bureau of Investigation Police
                      ✦ Federal Bureau of Prisons
                      ✦ Office of Inspector General
                      ✦ United States Marshals Service
                      Department of Labor:
                      ✦ Office of Inspector General
                      Department of State:
                      ✦ Bureau of Diplomatic Security
                      - US Diplomatic Security Service
                      - Office of Foreign Missions
                      ✦ Office of the Inspector General of the Department of State
                      Department of Transportation:
                      ✦ Federal Aviation Administration
                      ✦ Office of Inspector General
                      ✦ United States Merchant Marine Academy Department of Public Safety
                      ✦ Office of Odometer Fraud Investigation - NHTSA
                      Department of the Treasury, a Bureau of Engraving and Printing Police:
                      ✦ Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau
                      ✦ Bureau of Engraving and Printing
                      - Bureau of Engraving and Printing Police
                      ✦ Financial Crimes Enforcement Network
                      ✦ Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division
                      ✦ Office of Inspector General
                      ✦ Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration
                      ✦ United States Mint Police
                      ✦ Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program
                      Department of Veterans Affairs:
                      ✦ Office of Inspector General
                      ✦ Veterans Affairs Police
                      Legislative branch:
                      ✦ Library of Congress, Office of Security and Emergency Preparedness
                      ✦ Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives
                      ✦ Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate
                      ✦ United States Capitol Police
                      ✦ United States Government Printing Office Police
                      ✦ Office of Inspector General, United States Government Printing Office
                      Judicial branch:
                      ✦ Marshal of the United States Supreme Court
                      - United States Supreme Court Police
                      ✦ Administrative Office of the United States Courts
                      1. 0
                        20 November 2015 12: 27
                        Other federal law enforcement agencies, Independent Agencies and Quasi-official Corporations:
                        ✦ Central Intelligence Agency Security Protective Service
                        ✦ United States Environmental Protection Agency
                        - Criminal Investigation Division
                        - Office of Inspector General
                        ✦National Aeronautics and Space Administration
                        - Office of Inspector General
                        - NASA Protective Services
                        ✦ Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Office of Inspector General
                        ✦ Office of Personnel Management, Office of Inspector General
                        ✦ Railroad Retirement Board, Office of Inspector General
                        ✦ Small Business Administration, Office of Inspector General
                        ✦ Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Office of Inspector General
                        ✦ General Services Administration, Office of Inspector General
                        ✦ Social Security Administration Office of Inspector General
                        ✦ United States Postal Service
                        - USPS Office of Inspector General
                        - United States Postal Inspection Service
                        - US Postal Police
                        ✦ Smithsonian Institution
                        - Office of Protection Services
                        - National Zoological Park Police
                        - Office of the Inspector General
                        ✦Amtrak
                        - Amtrak Office of Inspector General
                        - Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special Operations
                        - Amtrak Police
                        ✦ Federal Reserve Bank: Federal Reserve Police
                        ✦ Tennessee Valley Authority Office of Inspector General
                        ✦ United States Agency for International Development, Office of Inspector General [/ quote]
                      2. -7
                        20 November 2015 12: 56
                        In the USSR, too, it was full of VOKhRs, which went in front of the Central Committee on a string (unlike foresters, at their fence).

                        If any of the employees of these listed American departments would threaten civil rights and freedoms, then any American has the right to shoot them for these unconstitutional actions. laughing If the citizens do not have such an opportunity due to the inequality of forces, then the National Guard (which is all recruited from local people) will arrive and roll the "aliens" into a pancake with tanks, without even firing ...
                        Citizens who have fled, together with the police, will be caught later, and they will be tried by local elected judges, with the exception of federal cases - this will be judged by a federal judge and "somewhere far away" who is not chosen by the locals, and there the bad boys from the "American Lubyanka" will have space for abuse. But if they are lawfully shot "in execution" - then they will simply be shot ... and the question of the legality of this will be decided by the local elected judge. Which is not required to be a Freemason. smile
                      3. +2
                        20 November 2015 14: 27
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        In the USSR, too, was full of WOHRs,

                        And who usually never climbed over the fence of the guarded object.
                      4. -1
                        20 November 2015 14: 29
                        It was written there. For the rest, what are the objections?
                      5. 0
                        21 November 2015 05: 40
                        Vohr. Are you laughing This is a pensioner with a gun. Salary 60 rubles. Staff turnover.
                        The ordinary watchman.
                      6. +1
                        21 November 2015 05: 48
                        Maybe with rubber reel? And is the rifle or reed rifle the same?
                        This is a revolver that is reliable, immune to misfires, ready for immediate firing, and therefore it is preferred by American police officers to a gun.
                      7. 0
                        21 November 2015 00: 57
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        full of WOHRs that walked in front of the Central Committee

                        It feels like I was in the 70-80s
            2. -9
              20 November 2015 12: 39
              Quote: GRAY
              Worse than in fascist America? Truth?

              Just the other day, a friend told the following story: right at the entrance to the house, two policemen stopped him and after a short conversation they took him to the police station, there he was stripped to his underwear and into a monkey (in which it was terribly cold) saying: you will find a certain amount of several thousand dollars. e. - let go, you won’t find - we’ll hang the case, you’ll sit. As a result, he had to urgently seek and give money. Only then released.
              Here are the things ... And for some reason we are discussing the pros and cons of amers, when such "personalities" serve in the Russian police. recourse
              1. +3
                20 November 2015 13: 09
                Probably they found a sucker - in such a situation they simply call a lawyer, a local or federal authority, or a judge and explain the police demands "as is."
                1. -2
                  20 November 2015 13: 23
                  Quote: SectaHaki
                  in such a situation, they just call the lawyer

                  He was very scared. And who will give him a call? The mobile phone, along with all things, was taken away - only cowards and a sweater were left ...
                  Quote: SectaHaki
                  to the local or federal government, go to the judge and explain the police requirements "as is."

                  Firstly, it is not a fact that the local "authorities" will at least somehow react, even if they believe this story (he has no proof). And secondly, where is the guarantee that the local "authorities" are not in the share (and personally I have such a suspicion) ...
                  1. +1
                    20 November 2015 13: 29
                    let him call now ... how did he look for money?
                    they should not believe, but they must check, and he is not obliged to prove, but the prosecutor and the like
                    let him turn not to local, but at least to human rights defenders ...

                    if the police certainly have no strong compromising materials on him, which makes it easier and better to remain silent.
                    1. -4
                      20 November 2015 13: 41
                      Quote: SectaHaki
                      let him call now ...

                      They promised not pleasant consequences for him personally in the future - if he blunders too much. In general, he is afraid.
                      Quote: SectaHaki
                      But how did he look for money?

                      These "personalities" called their relatives, and they were already collecting from relatives and friends.
                      Quote: SectaHaki
                      they should not believe, but they must check, and he is not obliged to prove, but the prosecutor and the like
                      let him turn not to local

                      You are naive. It is unlikely that local bureaucrats will even scratch their heads - who wants to raise a bee hive, especially if it also brings honey.

                      1. 0
                        20 November 2015 13: 47
                        Well, let him tell about it too ... Or let him be "afraid".

                        Let it not the locals itch. Yes, even from across the ocean (therefore, usually those above the local ones do itch).
                      2. 0
                        20 November 2015 13: 54
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        Or let it be "afraid".

                        So he is afraid. Says they say - drove through, it’s good that at least I got off like that. sad
                      3. 0
                        20 November 2015 13: 56
                        And the second approach will not be the same, or the same?
                      4. 0
                        20 November 2015 14: 00
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        And the second approach will not be the same, or the same?

                        Who knows...
                      5. 0
                        20 November 2015 14: 03
                        Why wouldn’t he approach them with his witnesses, relatives and a support group?
                      6. -1
                        21 November 2015 18: 05
                        Looks like his stigma was "in the gun". About which he kept silent, building from the seed of Christ on the cross.
                      7. +1
                        21 November 2015 05: 26
                        Quote: Misha Honest
                        They promised not pleasant consequences for him personally in the future - if he blunders too much. In general, he is afraid.

                        Stop talking nonsense. This is not "Echo of Moscow"
                      8. +1
                        21 November 2015 05: 56
                        In general, it happens, but usually with those who do not like this radio station ... Then there is practically no one to complain about lawlessness.
                      9. +1
                        21 November 2015 12: 58
                        What "Echo" ?! I hate this garbage! corporal, at least you are not lazy, but look at my profile - I'm a Stalinist monarchist by conviction. PPC people, only because I said that the guy is a good person, and specifically these two policemen - essentially gangsters, and not law enforcement officers - let all the dogs down on me!
                    2. -3
                      20 November 2015 13: 49
                      Quote: SectaHaki
                      if the police certainly have no strong compromising materials on him, which makes it easier and better to remain silent.

                      I don’t know if they have anything on him. As far as I know, it’s like a good guy. The problem is that hanging an unresolved case on an innocent is a fairly common practice in Russia. And what’s most interesting is that nobody cares and no one will be surprised by this.
                      1. 0
                        20 November 2015 13: 53
                        and you can still plant it, lower it there and never see the age of freedom ... only for some reason this is not with everyone.
                      2. 0
                        20 November 2015 13: 58
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        and you can still plant it, lower it there and never see the age of freedom ... only for some reason this is not with everyone.

                        Although this probably happens in the states, huh?
                      3. 0
                        20 November 2015 14: 02
                        In any significant quantities - if only recently.
                2. +1
                  20 November 2015 14: 38
                  Quote: SectaHaki
                  probably sucker found

                  Most likely found a drug or something else.
                  How it is possible to "hang" anything on a law-abiding and previously not convicted person with an alibi, family, permanent job and "characteristics" I do not understand at all!
                  1. -2
                    20 November 2015 14: 44
                    You can’t - ask someone else ...
              2. +7
                20 November 2015 14: 33
                Quote: Misha Honest
                These are the things

                Here you are lying, you feel godless, or your friend is hiding something - maybe he had drugs with him or something else, but now he just excuses himself?
                Because there are no fools in the police, to sit out of the blue for a couple of thousand for a couple of years.
                1. -3
                  20 November 2015 15: 05
                  Quote: Down House
                  Here you are lying, you feel godless, or your friend is hiding something - maybe he had drugs with him or something else, but now he just excuses himself?

                  I just retold the story from the words of a friend - no more. What about hiding - not hiding I do not know, but the guy, it seems, is not bad.
                  Quote: Down House
                  Because there are no fools in the police, to sit out of the blue for a couple of thousand for a couple of years.

                  Not a couple, but ten thousand greenbacks.

                  On my own behalf, I can add that in our city there were already several corruption scandals involving both police officers and their leadership, and the head of the district prosecutor's office and his deputies (although many were simply hushed up). By the way, the heads of the prosecutor's office change steadily every two years due to bribes. winked
                  Conclusions, as they say, do it yourself ...
                  1. +4
                    20 November 2015 15: 45
                    Quote: Misha Honest
                    Not a couple, but ten thousand greenbacks.

                    Ten thousand greenies ?! Per night?! From a person who was "frightened" ?! belay
                    Yes, there are no options at all, either he "drives" and was with drugs, or something else, or most likely your friend has "munhausen syndrome" - I talked with such, the traffic police arrange a chase in 10 cars, but in fact they have neither rights nor cars.
                    1. -1
                      20 November 2015 15: 57
                      Quote: Down House
                      From a person who was "frightened" ?!

                      As far as I understood, these were not PPS, but opera - in civilian clothes. request
                      And the money they received is a fact.
                      1. +1
                        20 November 2015 16: 50
                        Quote: Misha Honest
                        As far as I understood, these were not PPS, but opera - in civilian clothes.

                        As I understand it, the story is "sewn with white thread."
                        Although this is from my position and competence, I voiced my position "to hang something on a law-abiding and previously not convicted person with an alibi, family, permanent job and" characteristics "is almost unrealistic" - and if he is also $ 10000 per night "find "maybe even more so" well, it nafig. "
                      2. +1
                        20 November 2015 17: 02
                        Quote: Down House
                        As I understand it, the story is "sewn with white thread."

                        Often, in order to increase performance, some of the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs go to offenses. There are a lot of schemes, up to a package with a weapon or a drug. Wed before confessing to the murder.
                        In the 90s, the killers simply dropped their weapons so that they would find, to close the case, hang it on someone. And the cases were quickly closed, here the barrel is "passing next to it." They just hung it on someone.
                      3. +1
                        20 November 2015 20: 01
                        Quote: marshes
                        Often, in order to increase performance, some of the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs go to offenses. There are a lot of schemes, up to a package with a weapon or a drug. Wed before confessing to the murder.

                        And often, the scale of such acts is exaggerated, but in prisons we probably have 95%, according to their own words, "for nothing" is imprisoned.
                      4. +1
                        20 November 2015 20: 13
                        Quote: Down House
                        And often, the scale of such acts is exaggerated, but in prisons we probably have 95%, according to their own words, "for nothing" is imprisoned.

                        they sit for something, just a punishment for often harsh. You can do less. There is truth for which you can give more to the flesh to the tower. But ... judges do not understand ... what they say and will give.
                        The antibiotic said it was safe to steal wagons, or rather train formulations.
                      5. 0
                        21 November 2015 18: 10
                        Complete nonsense. Nonsense of a person who is not even familiar with operational investigative actions, although not ... probably you studied them on TV shows :-))))
                      6. 0
                        20 November 2015 17: 56
                        I apologize to the people - he said incorrectly - not 10000 bucks, but rubles.
                        But this does not alter the fact that the police should not engage in extortion, but put criminals in jail. Real criminals.
                        Now I would like a man like Dzerzhinsky at the head of our law enforcement authorities, in order to restore order in the country ...
                      7. 0
                        20 November 2015 20: 08
                        Quote: Misha Honest
                        that the police should not engage in extortion, but should plant criminals. Real criminals.

                        The police also plant criminals, and criminals in uniform are also planted.
                        And about Dzerzhinsky, you yourself have to wait for at least elementary laws and you won't have to be afraid of "werewolves" - they run away from legally literate people in 99% of them.
                      8. +2
                        20 November 2015 20: 54
                        Here went straight on. And out of the blue the term "raised" ?? You chase, young man. According to your words, any passer-by can "close" Pi ... t your friend
                      9. -1
                        20 November 2015 23: 19
                        Quote: roninas
                        Here went straight on. And out of the blue the term "raised" ?? You chase, young man. According to your words, any passer-by can "close" Pi ... t your friend

                        Do you think that is impossible? Then look. Different examples - looked at a vskidka:

                        Here are some more different videos: detention and beating.
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZyX0y11KSo
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEMuxqWpWjw
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2bkLTRRBFw
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnm3fAjRv-o
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=53&v=Y4ROPyx2gds
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=82&v=jyMuyR1-G9w
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv6GZY-UvHU
                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlcQAHwEZ1g

                        Beautiful movies ?!
                      10. 0
                        21 November 2015 18: 14
                        if a person is not a deer, then all the accusations fall apart in a week or two. Now on the Internet, any instructions can be found if your brain is not enough.
                      11. 0
                        23 November 2015 20: 45
                        Would go to the department. I recorded the entry time in the duty room - the exit time. I would buy a new ticket, but expired along with a certificate - to the magistrate's court. Money would be returned without question. And so - resisting and the zone for 5 years to really rattle.
              3. +2
                21 November 2015 01: 02
                Quote: Misha Honest
                Just the other day, a friend told the following story:

                My friend in the police works and says that not everything is so simple. People themselves come to the police and give the money. And some come to the police and voluntarily demand to hang on unsolved crimes.
                1. +2
                  21 November 2015 05: 41
                  ... some even with their own bottle of champagne crying
        3. 0
          20 November 2015 13: 40
          I shot the campaign because the guy started to turn up his shirt to show that he had a player there. And the cop thought that he climbed behind the barrel ...
        4. 0
          21 November 2015 00: 07
          They killed for nothing, then they collected a trifle in their pockets, and when the ambulance arrived, they did not even take off the handcuffs from the dead man. Like suddenly turns into a zombie and this villain eats everyone! They have cops there after serving in Iraq, many work for whom the psyche is not to hell. Over the past half year alone, more than 500 people have failed) If that goes, they will soon kill each other there themselves stop So the flag in their hands)
      2. +15
        20 November 2015 08: 31
        Quote: Corporal
        Article +, although it is far from complete.

        And I minusanul. I do not quite understand why there is an advertisement for the American police here? She's too specific. To find out what to learn from them, you have to delve a lot into the differences in the legal framework of our and their police, in the mentality and in all other aspects.
        The driver is recommended to put his hands on the "ten and two." No sudden movements and attempts to get documents out of your pocket (even worse - delve into the glove compartment).

        Duc they have almost free possession of weapons. It is clear that the "officer" has reason to be nervous. Why would our people adopt such "honed procedures"? In America, there is a cult of muscle cars and a lot of good roads for racing, including with the police. In such a situation, a ram on every police car is probably justified. And why is it to ours? In short, perhaps out of habit, the work of the American police is amazing, but if you dig deeper, its advantages over our law enforcement officers are IMHO controversial.
        1. +15
          20 November 2015 09: 54
          I wrote for a long time here (on "VO") about a case in Novosibirsk. Two patrolmen approached the subject to check documents. Result, one 300, another 200. Recently this was repeated in my opinion in Moscow (these are those who were later "got" in Kalmykia). Are you sure we don't have "near-gun fluency"? The article is more about police tactics and their legal protection.
          Have you noticed how many shots a cop makes at a criminal in a critical situation? Then try to explain to our prosecutor's office and the court why you fired 8 - 18 cartridges into the criminal. It seems that our judges and prosecutors are guarding the life and health of criminals.
          1. +5
            20 November 2015 10: 52
            Quote: Hell Angel
            It seems that our judges and prosecutors are on guard of the life and health of criminals.

            They also have "indicators", they also "chop sticks", the woodcutters are pancake room.
          2. +2
            20 November 2015 12: 45
            Quote: Hell Angel
            It seems that our judges and prosecutors are on guard of the life and health of criminals.

            Well, such is our legislation ...
      3. +4
        20 November 2015 08: 41
        Quote: Corporal
        Article +, although it is far from complete.


        I agree +! The man tried. I hope someday our DPS nicknames can compete with them in professionalism and courtesy.
        By the way, I was recently in Georgia, and I really liked their policemen for their correctness. Their uniforms and machines are similar to those of the Yankees
        1. +10
          20 November 2015 08: 49
          Quote: sherp2015
          and courtesy.

          Oh yes, politeness is theirs all. Two in the chest, two in the head, and then your corpse will politely read out the rights. Civilization ep.
        2. +2
          20 November 2015 10: 55
          Quote: sherp2015
          By the way, I was recently in Georgia, and I really liked their policemen for their correctness. Their uniforms and machines are similar to those of the Yankees

          There is an opinion: there all the delights like "one-two-three on the kidneys" already begin in prison, and getting there is easy, like in a mattress.
    2. +1
      20 November 2015 07: 01
      The machine is equipped with a stupid American V8 engine, which, with a volume of 4,6 l, produces only 250 hp. As you know, the Yankees, unlike the Germans, do not favor afterburner and turbocharging, preferring to save a resource.

      All this fascist homo, BMW Mercedes, full of insignificance against the backdrop of American cars

      A German woman needs to be refueled with AI-98 (in the USA - premium fuel), expensive to operate, each spare part stands as a collection one.

      And why did they survive - according to statistics, the Germans begin to crumble through 3 of the year, already in the lead in breakdowns
      The Passat’s box (2006) fell apart after 60 thousand miles, then it turned out there the whole batch of 2006 g. Has a defect in the box, the probes clapped their ears

      American car
      a) very simple and cheap to operate, how cheap can a foreign car be
      b) refuel with ordinary gasoline

      The result - on the odometer 160 thousand miles, flies like a swallow (Chrysler). Pickup F150 wound 200 +, rides like new. Of the other advantages - they are spacious, comfortable, ergonomic. They have all the necessary amenities. A little rustic inside, but glued solidly - nothing falls off anywhere and does not rattle. The pickup has huge, very comfortable mirrors, the review is super.

      To all lovers of luxury - the Yankees make different cars. There is a simple, like a stool, Ford. There is Karsler (new 300С, 2015 g. - Generally pleased, erysipelas, navigation, sunroof, seat auto-adjustment, healthy as a whale, wheels 19 inches). For aesthetes - there is a Cadillac. Look inside, you will fall. Obviously no worse than a German gelding.

      Legendary "muscle-car" - Shavi Camaro!



      Faceted Diamond - Cadillac CTS Coupe
      and its insides:

      1. +28
        20 November 2015 07: 17
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        American car

        Oleg, the eternal battle between fans / lovers of American, German, Japanese cars is endless and meaningless. Who likes pop, some poppies, someone popov’s daughter, or even a pig cartilage.
        About the American I will say one thing - a large volume leads to the same expense. Although torque is a serious and worthy thing, it plays an important role in a police car.
        And I’ll say one thing about the police themselves - there are plenty of fools everywhere, both on the part of citizens and law enforcement officers, what we have, what they have. But ours lacks rights on the one hand, and on the other, they are too unpunished. In Soviet times, the policeman was hope and support, and now they try to stay away from them, since the main task of patrolmen is to make money.
        1. -9
          20 November 2015 07: 49
          Quote: inkass_98
          Who likes pop, some pops, some pop daughter, or even a pig cartilage

          We have two facts:

          1. The Germans require careful care (premium gasoline expensive s / h)
          2. The Germans are pouring in, as if they were made by AvtoVAZ
          3. Despite the lack of "vaunted German quality", these creatures keep the prices, as if smarter than everyone

          Americans:
          1. Comparably simpler and cheaper to maintain
          2. Reliability - in my personal experience, more reliable than German
          3. Cheaper in any segment

          And what is there to argue about? On equipment - so Cadillac will not yield to Mersey
          Quote: inkass_98
          a large volume leads to the same flow

          German 98 th season (Premium), from the price tag you will fall

          And who said more? Do not take 4 liter what is the problem
          1. +22
            20 November 2015 08: 20
            Man, stop drinking. The site "Military Review", an article about the American police, in discussions, a srach on cars ... IMHO this is too much.
            1. 0
              20 November 2015 09: 35
              let it be better unmasked
          2. +2
            20 November 2015 14: 59
            Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
            And what is there to argue about?

            That's exactly what is enough to argue and flood, especially since there are statistics of warranty calls and post-warranty repairs - the most reliable cars in the world are Japanese, and the most reliable of Japanese cars are Toyota hybrids, so they really drive hundreds and hundreds of thousands of kilometers without breakdowns and American cars even in America are inferior in sales to Japanese ones - Japanese cars are usually cheaper in price, better equipped and more reliable!
            The American auto industry travels only at state orders, patriots and government subsidies.
            PS. Well, the Germans are really slag, they break even under guarantees, the more brittle are probably only the French and British - even modern Chinese cars break down less often than German fellow
            1. 0
              20 November 2015 15: 11
              Quote: Down House
              PS. Well, the Germans are really slag, they break even under guarantees, the more brittle are probably only the French and British - even modern Chinese cars break down less often than German

              Damn, car theme.
              I agree with you on 100%.
              Faced with all the auto industry, it’s better that there aren’t anything but it also depends on the years of production. Of course there is a desire to push a fresher product to the market faster, but then there are reviews, this is for all manufacturers.
              But you also need to take into account the place of operation of this or that unit. Some are warmer in the winter and others are less confirmed by overheating in the summer.
              But the French are full of it, traveled Citroen, Peugeot and Renault ...
              1. +1
                20 November 2015 18: 59
                car theme.
                odnako
                1. 0
                  20 November 2015 19: 22
                  Quote: sovetskyturist
                  odnako

                  On the Chinese can be put.
                  If you have Czech, genuine flags, you can talk. How is SKODA FABIA, combi 1.4,50 kW.
                  Suspension body, etc. smart but the engine wants the best, in the region of 120-150-cylinder head gasket breaks through, is treated. So Auto is not bad. But in our KZ spare parts are expensive. Even very. But unfortunately, even CHINA does not produce analogues, and this is a minus.
                  That's why TOYOTES are popular with us, even China spare parts are issued with a guarantee.
                2. 0
                  20 November 2015 20: 11
                  Quote: sovetskyturist
                  odnako

                  However, this is the Chery Amulet, which is already 100 years old at lunch and which is no longer for sale - modern Chinese are of a completely different quality.
          3. 0
            21 November 2015 01: 52
            Oleg is trying to dispel some stereotypes, but to be held captive by others)))) In the Moscow traffic police at the end of the 90 there was a separate special battalion for Ford Crown Victoria (they seemed to be flying Dutch), but somehow these machines did not take root, and the employees were re-trained as escorts VIP persons ... Perhaps it was said that these cars were not officially sold, and the operating costs for fuel turned out to be quite high .... So now instead of the cars specially designed for work in the police, the special battalion rides ordinary Mercedes BMW, as usual DPS collected Rosiii Ford Focus and Renault Logan, well, sometimes even frets vstrechayutsya ....
      2. +7
        20 November 2015 08: 17
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        American car
        a) very simple and cheap to operate, how cheap can a foreign car be
        b) refuel with ordinary gasoline

        Lada even easier and cheaper)))))))
        1. -1
          20 November 2015 08: 31
          Quote: Jack-B
          Lada is even simpler and cheaper

          You yourself know all the answers about the Lada))
        2. +1
          20 November 2015 09: 25
          And UAZ is also stronger.
      3. 0
        20 November 2015 09: 58
        Put a plus. You are right for all 100! Just many of us at the same time and do not like American cars.
      4. 0
        20 November 2015 18: 57
        The car is equipped with the stupid American V8 engine, which, with a volume of 4,6 l, produces only 250 hp. As is known, the Yankees, unlike the Germans, do not favor the afterburner and turbocharging, preferring to save the resource. Not surprisingly, the majority of “Interceptors” have mileage over 100 thousand miles, and this is far from the limit. Beasts.
        160 t.km is a little .... they try to program old age, plus savings on everything. Roads and fuel are also probably different. Now everything is already intertwined so that there are no purebreds
    3. 0
      20 November 2015 12: 56
      You just need to understand that in the United States the legal storage and carrying of weapons, and not just pistols. Under these conditions, police officers behave accordingly, as there is no guarantee that the detainee will not start firing in all directions. Hence the incidents with shot teenagers who brandish copies of pistols. Nobody wants to die from the cops ...
    4. 0
      21 November 2015 01: 30
      more than 1000 kills by cops in 1 year
      Every day, at least three people die at the hands of the police in the United States, 111 were killed in March alone. For comparison: in the UK, 52 people have died at the hands of the police since 1900. Such data were published in the report of the law enforcement in the XNUMXst century working group, created by order of US President Barack Obama last December, after a wave of mass protests against police brutality in America.
  2. +10
    20 November 2015 06: 36
    At least a little of their rights to our security forces! It’s ridiculous to say: authorities are not protected by the Law!
    1. SSR
      +8
      20 November 2015 08: 51
      Quote: Corporal Valera
      At least a little of their rights to our security forces! It’s ridiculous to say: authorities are not protected by the Law!

      But I wonder why their police are so nervous when the driver "fiddles"? It is interesting why, for all the severity of their police force, the United States remains the leader in terms of the number of prisoners per capita.
      Personally, I am ready to agree that our policemen need more rights (I recall a case on the market in Moscow last year), but I would like that other rules regarding police officers would be toughened (I recall last year's case in Tatarstan when policemen raped Parnya and even in addition and improvised "means").
      Personally, I was faced with police arbitrariness, and the reason was that I just walked past them, led me to the police station, and, with batons, noted that I was all as a three-color camouflage and then, just to justify my actions, they tried to attribute to me the missing sneakers wassat
      In general, if they are at least equipped so that there will be no "dark" places during the service, then where something can be resolved.))))
      1. +3
        20 November 2015 09: 35
        Quote from S.S.R.
        Personally, I am ready to agree that our policemen need more rights (I recall a case in the market in Moscow last year)

        It wasn’t even a matter of rights; anyway, you won’t be able to shoot in the crowd. They concocted themselves, found where to detain, and even arranged a rally. In short - either they didn’t prepare (by running, on horseback, drafts barely!), Or simply relaxed, as is customary in them in Maaskwe (like, here is all ours, who will tell us what!), Impressively burst in and ran into. They would have detained them sharply, as it should be — no one would have understood anything, if they had then rallied under the windows of the department.
      2. 0
        20 November 2015 15: 04
        Quote from S.S.R.
        tried to attribute to me the missing sneakers

        Whose sneakers ?! belay
  3. +28
    20 November 2015 06: 37
    In my opinion, an overly laudatory article. But judging by the stories of those who were there, the American police, in general, are quite professional.
    Many of their rules should be adopted by ours. In any case, for example, the rule is that the policeman must respond to resistance with weapons of a class higher, to fists with a baton, to a knife up to the gun. Well, they have enough reasonable caution.
    Well, the fact that they have cameras everywhere in the precincts can then be sued for any arbitrariness.
    Only now they have begun to shoot really much a lot. Maybe this is a consequence of the fact that they began to shoot a lot in the USA?
    1. aba
      +9
      20 November 2015 06: 48
      In my opinion, an overly laudatory article.

      Exactly! That's what I'm talking about. All this looks somehow strange against the background of the latest events in Fergusen and the turn of the murders of minor teenagers.
      And the fact that our Robingudas do not show respect for the servants of power is partly guilty and their own media and absolutely mediocre films about "shameful cops and wolves" that are teeming with our television screen.
      1. +10
        20 November 2015 09: 49
        juvenile teenagers

        You are considering one side of the coin, and the second side - these minor teens were inadequate blacks and the law is not a nanny to cover them.
        In Russia, their analogues arrange accidents on expensive limousines and nothing happens to them for this, but in the USA they would have been "spanked" long ago.
    2. +28
      20 November 2015 07: 19
      An American policeman has the right to shoot a man with a knife that doesn’t even go at him, but just got it, with a single warning! If you put the cop on the ground and ordered you not to breathe, handcuffed, you must not breathe, move your leg, resistance to detention, has the right to use weapons! If it seemed to the American cop that his life or the lives of others was in danger, he has the right to use weapons! When approaching the car of the offender, it is recommended that the cop be unfastened he saw it! As soon as you do not obey the order to get out of the car and begin to carry out any manipulations, the computer’s hand will instantly be on the handle of his service weapon! Too often they are shot there for the cops to take risks! And we ... what here, two gayts put a drunken man in the back seat of his car .. as a result, one corpse .. one seriously wounded .. he cut both sheep as a knife! once! It’s a pity for our cops, we’re yelling that they are kazly, but how what, so mi help, for every month poor fellows unsubscribe !!!
      1. -2
        20 November 2015 08: 19
        Quote: igorka357
        If the cop put you on the ground and ordered you not to breathe, handcuffed, you must not breathe, moved your legs, resistance to detention, has the right to use weapons!

        Bust and nonsense.
        Quote: igorka357
        , for each cartridge the poor fellows unsubscribe for a month !!!

        Only 21 days wassat laughing hi
      2. +6
        20 November 2015 10: 01
        It's just that in the USA, the life and health of a policeman is valued higher than the life and health of a criminal!
    3. 0
      20 November 2015 15: 05
      Quote: alex-cn
      Well, the fact that they have cameras everywhere in the precincts can then be sued for any arbitrariness.

      Rather, on the contrary, you can then "look" at this arbitrariness on YouTube, and after that the police will be sent a couple of months to rest - to correct the nerves somewhere in Hawaii.
  4. +7
    20 November 2015 06: 42
    Even many law-abiding Americans do not really know how everything is there, but the image and principles of their system have been imprinted in the minds of even ours. Why? Hollywood, pardon the banality. Russia, as always, answers asymmetrically, your cinematic opera is an unshaven specialist, tortured by unnecessary papers, balancing on the brink of law and salary. In short, this production presupposes domestic consumption, but we live in this country. Why do we need this "splint"?
  5. +2
    20 November 2015 06: 55
    This behavior and relationship on the roads has been nurtured for decades. And then a lot depends on the mentality of people. We Russians are completely different. Give our "traffic cop" undivided power. The driver will not only be left without pants, but will also be beaten without measure ...
    1. +1
      20 November 2015 07: 39
      Quote: moskowit
      Give our "traffic cop" undivided power.

      Where did you read about undivided power?

      In the USA, a cop has no right to stop a car / passer-by without any reason. "Document verification" is not such a ground

      Plot:
      a novice patrolman demands to show documents from a man with a flying drone. He says that he did not break anything and let the cop roll to hell.
      - Who are you?
      - It's not a suspicion of crime.

      Then comes the sergeant - and says that the man is right. He did not break anything. DPS-sheep, apologizing, leaves

      follow him: So you learn smth. today, that's good. (You learned the lesson today)
      1. +13
        20 November 2015 07: 48
        Compare, they, and ours.
        1. +4
          20 November 2015 09: 01
          Quote: WUA 518
          WUA 518 (1) Today, 07:48 ↑ New
          Compare, they, and ours.



          "a minor reckless driver will most likely get off with a slight fright and a fine ..."

          Here you have the Russian legislation.
          Laws are written by deputies ...
        2. +4
          20 November 2015 09: 10
          This bald man from the second video, and according to our stupid law "On the police", can be shot through (by accident). But not the fact that you will accomplish this later.
        3. +1
          20 November 2015 09: 26
          In the emirates, this guard would be stuck with his face on the floor and would rot at best in the jail, or shot on the spot, there even our dodges become educated
      2. 0
        20 November 2015 15: 08
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        In the USA, the cop has no right to stop the car / passerby without any reason.

        In fact, this is also the case with us.
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        "Document verification" is not such a ground

        In fact, we can also check documents only at a stationary traffic police post.
        1. +1
          20 November 2015 15: 13
          They have the right everywhere if something happened ... to find out if something happened, if they were given orientation on the radio and not on paper, alas, it is possible only retroactively (paper should be presented when asking for documents). If they stood like that and "earned" themselves, then they would fly out of service, maybe even sit down.
      3. 0
        20 November 2015 15: 22
        In the USA, a cop has no right to stop a car / passer-by without any reason. "Document verification" is not such a ground


        I am begging you. You can get to the pillar. For example, to say that you look like a bad image. And to prove that it’s not you, you will be handcuffed. However, ours also sin with this.
        1. +1
          20 November 2015 15: 28
          He will then show the judge about this photo-robot, if this was not true, then he will not convince of anything, and he will sit down from 2 to 5 years, with subsequent loss of rights.
  6. +10
    20 November 2015 07: 16
    Well, it never happens that EVERYTHING was bad. This is nonsense. Even Hitler had very good social programs that are not at all a sin to use. They were simply directed exclusively at the "superior race", and the rest in concentration camps, for soap ... But let's say the idea of ​​"Homes of Life" - free social sanatoriums, with full provision in the best, most beautiful places in the country for pregnant women, during pregnancy, childbirth and the postpartum period
    is a great idea. Just racial segregation must be removed from it.
    And no matter how negative trends in the United States last three hundred years))) it’s not a sin to learn many things from them. And to shoot - so the internal tension in society leads to increased aggressiveness. And sharper who are the cops. Naturally, the level of violence is increasing.
    1. +7
      20 November 2015 09: 09
      Quote: Alex1977RUS
      no matter what negative trends in the USA have occurred for the last three hundred years))) it’s not a sin to learn many things from them.


      They will tear the majorities for rudeness f ... pu, and with us money bags can pour mud over anyone or even feces and nothing. free tsuki.
      The legal system is useless. I remember how it seems that Deputy Golovlev pushed through the Russian Parliament the law on narcotic substances allowed for storage, the weight seems to be up to 1 gram! ! a gram of heroin could be carried in your pocket! But the Almighty later punished this "Juda Golovlev"
      1. 0
        20 November 2015 15: 13
        Quote: sherp2015
        They will tear the major for rudeness w ... pu

        Fairy tales - for them the major will hire a "lawyer" and the major will have nothing.
  7. +8
    20 November 2015 07: 32
    Clear, clear instructions and effective methods of the American police

    In the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, clear instructions are also sufficient. Many local reinsurers from the management team. This has been rooted since Soviet times. When for each spent cartridge and hard detention (if this is not provided for by the developed plan), it was necessary to unsubscribe by a small biser.
    1. +6
      20 November 2015 08: 39
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, clear instructions are also sufficient. Many local reinsurers from the management team. This has been rooted since Soviet times. When for each spent cartridge and hard detention (if this is not provided for by the developed plan), it was necessary to unsubscribe by a small biser.

      Americans write the same. Only we have an employee who performed such a trick "... What is considered commonplace for Russia will not work overseas. Any bickering of this kind with the American “cop” ends in an unambiguous way. Wham with a baton. And a stun gun to the side. After a couple of minutes, the rumpled and hushed “intruder” is already humbly sitting on the curb in handcuffs ..."will be accused by prosecutors of exceeding their official powers. The same is with shooting! And the registration of an offense, in general, is easier to shoot yourself.
      That's why it is the US police state, so that their greatest strength would be protected. In the early 90s in his city he saw the reaction of Americans to police officers: not far from the hotel there were two officers on the sidewalk, since the sidewalk is not wide, our citizens calmly passed employees very close, without any problems, but then the Americans approached and their reaction interested me - when they saw the employees, they stopped three meters away from them, then turned around and crossed the road at the pedestrian crossing to the other side, at the next crossing they returned to the side where the employees stood and went to the hotel. I was shocked, not really so afraid. But it turned out that the American police have a security zone in which citizens should not get into without any special reason, as tough actions will follow, since being in this zone is equivalent to an attack on a police officer.
      Well, something like this!
      1. -2
        20 November 2015 08: 50
        Quote: AndreyS
        American policemen have a security zone in which citizens should not get into without any special reason, since tough actions will follow, since being in this zone is equivalent to an attack on a police officer.

        Obviously bike
        1. +3
          20 November 2015 09: 29
          = SWEET_SIXTEEN] Obviously bike [/ quote]
          No, unfortunately, even ordinary Americans have such a concept as personal space, and it would not be comme il faut to invade it. Once an American asked me why in Moscow there were police with assault rifles, I laughed it off so that the gun would not be taken away. He did not appreciate my joke of humor, and thoughtfully said:
          -I have in Chicago, if you see a cop with a gun, it means that a serious mess will soon begin.
        2. +8
          20 November 2015 09: 50
          Well no. At the indicated time, I personally saw and appeared in the Yekaterinburg GUVD such a scene: In the building of the GUVD, an exhibition of special equipment of some state was visiting for several days. This exhibition was accompanied by amerovsky policy. He spoke Russian like I did in English, but at the very least we could communicate. One thing I could not explain to him in any language - how could it happen that on the street around the corner an acting major in uniform was torn off his shoulder strap and tie, and in response he could only twist one and drag it into the police department building. The amer had one question, but the main one: "Why didn't he shoot them?" The stories that there were more of them, and the major had no witnesses and the gun in the gun, simply did not reach the cop's consciousness, and he, smiling guiltily, all referred to his poor knowledge of the language.
          1. -3
            20 November 2015 10: 37
            Did he say "shot dead" or just "shot"? And on it "shot" is to take a photo ... Your English is really bad, and everyone "thinks out" in accordance with what he is inside himself ...
            1. 0
              21 November 2015 18: 25
              "poking" is from bad manners.
      2. -7
        20 November 2015 09: 24
        Quote: AndreyS
        That's why the US police state, so that their greatest strength would be protected

        The picture is outdated for several years, but still ...
        1. +5
          20 November 2015 11: 11
          How did the USA count 2,7 cops per 1000 population? apparently only municipalities were taken into account? And the state police and the federals (dozens of law enforcement agencies, in almost every federal ministry)? Let's count everyone. In other countries, where there are few of them - about the same picture.
          And if from our 9,7 we take away clerks in uniform and fat ... puffy generals, how many "diggers" will remain?
          1. 0
            20 November 2015 13: 00
            Quote: 1234567890
            federals (dozens of law enforcement agencies, in almost every federal ministry)?

          2. 0
            20 November 2015 14: 04
            Quote: 1234567890
            And if from our 9,7 we take away clerks in uniform and fat ... puffy generals, how many "diggers" will remain?

            I have such a suspicion that we have also recorded the "funny troops" in these "9,7".
        2. +3
          20 November 2015 13: 40
          Quote: alexbg2

          Nonsense. This is how 2,7 cops in America counted?
          and where is the 500 National Guard?
          Where are the 225 Department of Homeland Security staff?
          Where are the FBI, the ATF, the bureau for the fight against drugs, illegal immigrants, the Marshals, and half a hundred more of these services?
          That's when they are all considered - then it turns out that not 2,7 but 27 ...
    2. AUL
      -2
      20 November 2015 08: 55
      And they do not unsubscribe for torture in police stations? For the protection of bandits and drug dealers? There are no clear instructions for this in the Ministry of Internal Affairs?
      1. +1
        20 November 2015 09: 52
        What? Torture victim? Or did you watch TV?
      2. 0
        20 November 2015 10: 38
        and the oral reporting to the chief does not count? smile
        1. -3
          20 November 2015 10: 45
          and in your pocket - the main thing is not to confuse banknotes with drugs.
    3. +6
      20 November 2015 09: 18
      Yes? Is this a clear wording: "an attack dangerous to life and health"? For example, a policeman on the street in a specific situation perceives a threat in his own way and shoots, while a prosecutor and a judge in warm offices will interpret everything differently, and if they shoot someone the wrong one, it will be completely different. And our policeman goes to Nizhny Tagil.
  8. 0
    20 November 2015 07: 57
    To imagine such a thing in America: the actionist Pavlensky set fire to the door of the FSB.
    1. 0
      20 November 2015 08: 48
      From hooliganism to terrorism. From a year to 30-40-60. Now I don’t remember the border.
      At home, they do not flicker. So it would be the same for us, without looking back, so to speak, on the cryoprotectants.
    2. +2
      20 November 2015 08: 51
      Quote: Izotovp
      To imagine such a thing in America: the actionist Pavlensky set fire to the door of the FSB.

      Was it not the year before last that one comrade went into the office of the CIA (or another office, but not at all in the nursery, I don’t remember exactly) with a shotgun and put down 6-12 people? And not on the first floor, but as far as the fourth.
      1. 0
        20 November 2015 09: 58
        I agree that this happens, but Pavlensky will get just a fine here ...
    3. +1
      20 November 2015 11: 48
      It is unlikely that the US has an official "FSB door"
      1. 0
        20 November 2015 14: 12
        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
        It is unlikely that the US has an official "FSB door"

        There are FBI field offices - as many as 56. And it is very likely that they do have doors ("Aragorn's Pants", yes ...).

        However, the activist can still try to do something with the door of one of the agencies or departments that are part of the structure of the WB. There, 146% of them hang terrorism on it. smile
        1. 0
          20 November 2015 14: 18
          One in 1997, not only with the door, but with the whole office tried it - it turned out ... Most Americans examined his act, many even openly justify it, and no one dares to put them for it yet. laughing
          1. -1
            20 November 2015 19: 30
            Quote: SectaHaki
            One in 1997, not only with the door, but with the whole office tried it - it turned out ...

            Yeah ... and earned a VMN. Moreover, they proved that this was his doing, quite quickly - according to the part number of the car with the bomb found at the scene of the attack.
            In addition, this is 1997. There has not yet been the September 9 hysteria and the MNS monster.
            Quote: SectaHaki
            Most Americans appreciated his act, many even openly justify, and no one dares to put them for it yet.

            Thought crime is not punishable. For now... smile
            1. +2
              20 November 2015 20: 19
              So I didn't cover my tracks very much ... It will be punishable - cars, like the offices of monsters in the country, will run out quickly, and those who managed to escape from them will put on foil hats themselves, or go to the European Union to transfer FEMA experience to fight "refugees".
              1. 0
                21 November 2015 14: 15
                Quote: SectaHaki
                So I didn’t really notice the tracks ...

                Duc ... McVeigh was arrested in general an hour and a half after the explosion - for driving without license plates and illegally carrying weapons. Plus, he dropped the gun shop card in the police car with the note "need more TNT". smile

                However, even without all this, he could not leave. As it suddenly turned out, the United States has databases for almost everything. Even on the number of semi-axles for cars. Number -> car -> rental agency -> sketch - and the system started working.

                Now even a photobot is not required - cameras everywhere.
                1. +1
                  21 November 2015 15: 00
                  Not everything is so bad ...
        2. -1
          21 November 2015 18: 30
          Pump up your sense of humor. The man jokingly pointed out the inaccuracy, and some "signs" immediately climbed with an educational program laughing
  9. +1
    20 November 2015 08: 13
    What is the argument about? Look at YouTube about DPS and PPS. After certification, nothing has changed. Ordinary citizens sometimes know better laws than policemen
    1. +8
      20 November 2015 09: 55
      All certification with re-certification and renaming was started in order to remove initiative and competent workers from the police. Leave, of course, executive licking. The result is in statistics. There could be no other!
  10. +4
    20 November 2015 08: 20
    In the states, there is case law, and in our country, legal norms are enshrined in administrative, criminal codes, and the police law. The damage caused during the detention of a suspect in a crime should be minimal. For 24 years of service in the PSB, he shot only at the shooting range, although he spent half of the service on the street.
    1. 0
      20 November 2015 09: 49
      Quote: Agrippa
      For 24 years of service in the PSB, he shot only at the shooting range, although he spent half of the service on the street.

      Yes, there have always been cases where you want it and the law allows you to shoot, but on the other hand, hell knows how the prosecutor will look at it and unsubscribe, so well, see him in FIG. For 24 years?
    2. 0
      20 November 2015 09: 56
      Hi colleague hi
      Quote: Agrippa
      The damage caused during the detention of a suspect in a crime should be minimal.

      "By God, I was aiming at the knee! Why did I hit the forehead- request " feel
      1. -1
        20 November 2015 13: 34
        It only works when using a weapon to stop the vehicle, by damaging it! If you hit the driver, you cannot be held responsible! Although ...
    3. +1
      20 November 2015 13: 32
      Caused harm must be less than prevented!
      1. 0
        21 November 2015 18: 34
        And the surviving criminal will say “I didn’t want to do harm,” and the employee will go on vacation under the joyful smile of the prosecutor ...
  11. +6
    20 November 2015 08: 25
    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
    To all lovers of luxury - the Yankees make different cars. There is a simple, like a stool, Ford. There is Karsler (new 300С, 2015 g. - Generally pleased, erysipelas, navigation, sunroof, seat auto-adjustment, healthy as a whale, wheels 19 inches). For aesthetes - there is a Cadillac. Look inside, you will fall. Obviously no worse than a German gelding.


    Fell already! Who however compares with what!
    I .. especially "pleased" negative my last "handsome American" Dodge Caliber '08 (2 households) .. poured like our most worthless Lada! The V8 and 155 hp did not get along at all, coupled with front-wheel drive and weighing almost two tons, the muzzle is heavier than the rear! Not counting the dead acceleration from 11 sec. and slipping through only the snow that has fallen, skidding (at 40 km / h) with a roll (this seems to be the norm for them in general!), getting stuck wherever possible, terrible sluggishness, freezing at all already at -26 degrees! And eating Benz AI 95 (12 liters per 100 km. In the city) !!!! There was no question of any other benzo (indicated in the passport)! he also had the main stupid amerovskaya disease .. the car went deaf while driving and immediately the steering wheel and brakes were blocked .. Tin! I managed to scare a couple of beautiful cars and their owners .. when everything is cut down at your turn, and you continue to go further .. as you were driving, not even being able to slow down ... Such .gov .. negative I have not met yet! And all would be nothing, like "a woman behind the wheel .." stop BUT 20 years of experience without a single accident give me the advantage to argue about this. They tried to treat the whole world .. The disease is not treated. She is incurable. negative So to talk about amerovsky "super" machines, at least stupid! In all machines there are mowing machines! So I don't see any point in praying for only one thing! There are the simplest, but excellent, and there are expensive (VIP-class) where there is nothing more than beauty!

    And our policemen lack the rights that they could apply to violators! With amers, a bad example, and all is well, brave guys \ will break everyone \ catch up and bang .. because they were scared .. and they are afraid of everything in the world .. negative The last example is chasing a father, and they shot his child .. crying
    1. +1
      20 November 2015 08: 42
      Quote: press attache
      my last "handsome American" Dodge Caliber '08 (2 households) .. poured like our most worthless Lada!

      I also paid for it, as for a new BMW laughing

      Quote: press attache
      V8 and 155 l \ s did not get along together at all

      V8 ???

      Small "Caliber" ???

      (the answer is that there are no more than four cylinders, in any version. And you probably had a two-liter in general)
      Quote: press attache
      And eat benz Benz AI 95

      But not 98!
      Quote: press attache
      he also had the main stupid Amerov’s disease .. the car stalled while driving and the steering wheel and brakes were immediately blocked

      "Caliber" is generally a good car
      unless a drowned man from an insurance auction
    2. 0
      20 November 2015 15: 24
      Quote: press attache
      And eat benzene AI 95 (12l per 100km. In the city) !!!! There was no talk about any other benz (indicated in the passport)!

      "95" is according to their method of measuring RH, according to our 92 actually.
      In general, 92 theoretically can be poured into any car with electronic control of the internal combustion engine - the electric injection and the knock sensor will fix everything, but in the range of "maximum torque" (usually from 3000 rpm) there will be a loss of power due to a slightly smaller injection
  12. +4
    20 November 2015 08: 31
    An acquaintance of mine is a former teacher who left for the USA and has been working in the New York City Council for many years. Once I went home to lunch. He was stopped by the police, put his "face" on the hood, read his license, handcuffed him to the police station. He didn't even have time to blink an eye! There they found out for a long time who he was, where he was then, but they were very polite and gave us coffee. And then they apologized and took them to the service, as if by the way saying that while he was sitting there they killed a person who was very similar to him, who passes according to their data (and television cameras!) As a serial killer. They were very surprised: "You are so similar!" He then came to himself for two days looking at "his" corpse in the news! By the way, according to statistics, an American cop takes out a pistol once every 7 years for service and uses it once every 17 years! That is, it is very rare!
    1. +1
      20 November 2015 08: 52
      Quote: kalibr
      He was stopped by the police, put his "face" on the hood, read his license, handcuffed him to the police station. He didn't even have time to blink an eye! There they found out for a long time who he was, where he was then, but they were very polite and gave us coffee. And then they apologized and took him to the service, as if by the way saying that while he was sitting there they they killed a man very similar to him, who goes through their data (and television cameras!) as a serial killer.

      Those. they still had a good reason, they suspected him of something
  13. +8
    20 November 2015 08: 51
    Our police are too disenfranchised, which causes a mess in everyday life, not a desire to take responsibility and so on. Unfortunately, our state does not need a normal independent police, our state only needs protection from its own citizens.
  14. -8
    20 November 2015 09: 10
    One of the few things that is good in the USA is the work of their cops. These guys really work out their salaries, not that our trash
    1. +5
      20 November 2015 09: 32
      I do not know how "your trash" and in my city cops do not rule out law.
      And quite polite.
    2. +2
      20 November 2015 10: 31
      And what exactly did you do to make the "trash" less? Squeal from around the corners every much. As it comes to business - only know how to shout, appraisers damn it. Then go and eat the everyday life of this "trash", go to the USA then, where the cops are "handsome", where they can leave alone for years without trial. Ehkspert mln.
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    4. +4
      20 November 2015 11: 17
      Quote: hrenq
      not that our trash

      Another victim of the bloody regime that drew something? If not, then with such views everything is ahead.
      1. -1
        20 November 2015 12: 00
        Interestingly, the prosecutor's office and human rights activists gave this their assessment, starting directly with the headline (suspect) and the behavior of the announcer?
        it is clear that, with the approval of the court, no one was going to take a Russian peasant whom they "got" (and maybe another peasant) ...
        1. 0
          20 November 2015 13: 25
          Quote: SectaHaki
          Interestingly, the prosecutor's office and human rights activists gave this their assessment, starting directly with the headline (suspect) and the behavior of the announcer?


          And what did you mean by that? What should human rights defenders assess? What is the crime in the behavior of the announcer? What kind of court sanction are we talking about? What are the illegal actions of law enforcement officers? Well, about the Russian peasant who "got it" - generally a masterpiece good . For an attempt to write about arbitrariness, a completely unsuccessful example was selected (to put it mildly). I do not like to give sharp assessments, but you rave about the cutest.
          1. -1
            20 November 2015 13: 33
            if they themselves do not understand, then explaining is useless.

            put on an empty head on bully mold from where? from which sandbox, where do the same ones play?
            1. +2
              20 November 2015 14: 23
              Quote: SectaHaki
              if they themselves do not understand, then explaining is useless.

              put on an empty head on bully mold from where? from which sandbox, where do the same ones play?


              Are you by any chance Michael Bloom? With Russian you are not good, and with Russian jokes it’s really a disaster. For you, the meaning of Russian jokes is clearly not comprehensible. So for the future (let him hear ears). The child on the profile picture, puts a hand to his head on which a uniform (cap of military standard) headgear. Thus, the child at the celebration of May 9 pays homage and respect to the veterans of the Great Patriotic War and the dead soldiers of the USSR in this war. Therefore, this photo is on my profile picture, as the act of this child and his upbringing inspire respect from me. Good advice, be careful with similar jokes on Russian-language sites, you can run into rudeness.
              And finally. When the troll has nothing to say in essence, he tries to ridiculously joke. I would recommend that you have a little knowledge of the legal framework before trying to give legal assessments to this video from YouTube. But exceptional, they are so exceptional ... joke on, do not forget about Google hi
              1. 0
                20 November 2015 14: 35
                by chance no, but I already understand the break

                only the cadets are allowed to wear a military uniform of a valid standard

                I would recommend you go to the forest, even if you are bored ...
                1. 0
                  20 November 2015 14: 54
                  Quote: SectaHaki
                  only the cadets are allowed to wear a military uniform of a valid standard

                  I was a cadet and so on ...
                  In the 80s, "was young" laughing I wore a uniform, a garrison cap, a green shirt with pagons, and so on. there was even a maskhalat, everything was sewn in for a 6-8 year old child, even a soldier's belt with a PM holster, plus an officer's planchette. This was for the "war". And no one was indignant, though the local district police officer made a remark to his father for the ramrod in the cabura so no ... smile
                  Somehow, people don’t bother about the military uniform. Now I’ll dig up the garden, I’m putting on a ball and kirzachi with footcloths ... laughing
                  1. 0
                    20 November 2015 14: 58
                    This is a garden, and in most other countries you will be imprisoned for wearing even one part of a military uniform.
                    1. 0
                      20 November 2015 15: 21
                      Quote: SectaHaki
                      This is a garden, and in most other countries you will be imprisoned for wearing even one part of a military uniform.

                      So, it happened that he was a guest in the United States, the benefit of a newly-minted relative from law enforcement agencies. They went hunting, he suggested that I wear cartoons, and then give it to him with shoes. And from there I brought a lump, I liked the tiger color and thermal underwear. there I didn’t feel the ban on clothing. There you can buy a CA parade. laughing
                      1. 0
                        20 November 2015 15: 25
                        try to put on the Morpehov’s formal trousers there (not being a veteran, to be sure) and walk down the street in them ...
                      2. 0
                        20 November 2015 15: 37
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        try to put on the Morpehov’s formal trousers there (not being a veteran, to be sure) and walk down the street in them ...

                        And on fig? Their field shape is not bad.
                        Yes, before, we saw grandfathers in lame and PS but without pagon. They all went to another world. My deceased grandfather walked in Stalin until she fell apart. There was nothing to put on.
                        By the way, I have an old lump and a beret with a pitchfork, Ukraine, a gift from a cousin. smile
                      3. 0
                        20 November 2015 15: 41
                        And in order to clarify faster ... Grandfathers probably had or have the right to do so.
                      4. 0
                        20 November 2015 15: 53
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        And in order to clarify faster ... Grandfathers probably had or have the right to do so.

                        Well, the participants of the Second World War do not smell, it remains of security. And so the former Armed Forces, one under the floor, the other major.
                        My father has the same thing but does not wear the same laughing And the overcoat cuts make my eyes callous, a smart coat would have worked. And there is fur, a wolf and a crackler on the collar.
                        Especially chic looks a blue-gray cut, the Air Force, after all, and not the British telebachanie. laughing
                2. 0
                  20 November 2015 14: 56
                  Quote: SectaHaki
                  by chance no, but I already understand the break

                  only the cadets are allowed to wear a military uniform of a valid standard

                  I would recommend you go to the forest, even if you are bored ...


                  good

                  It looks like for you to distinguish the difference between the "current" and the sample of 1945 is not an easy task lol
                  And where did the grammatical errors and clumsiness of the syllable go? Burn yet wink
                  1. 0
                    20 November 2015 15: 00
                    it was specially written - "acting"

                    Are you a teacher of the Russian language who does not understand Russian? forest, go, forest ...
                    1. +2
                      20 November 2015 15: 39
                      Quote: SectaHaki
                      it was specially written - "acting"

                      Are you a teacher of the Russian language who does not understand Russian? forest, go, forest ...


                      What a dear forest, what are you talking about? laughing We have children, usually use the phrase "Sam" fellow
                      The child on the avatar is dressed in the uniform of the 1945 model, which is sold here in military-patriotic stores. And the caps on May 9, are sold in almost every stall. Or do you, like the figures from the Pentagon, think that we are still flying Po-2 and wearing caps and kirzachi, while remembering to play the balalaika? lol
                      1. 0
                        20 November 2015 15: 42
                        in which ear do you still buzzing? the walking profanity of everything in the spirit of the times ...
                      2. 0
                        20 November 2015 16: 19
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        in which ear do you still buzzing? the walking profanity of everything in the spirit of the times ...


                        Ahah, that's cute. Not good to you, dear, not good. Get your salary back. And do not move away from the chosen topic of propaganda, otherwise attentive readers will pay attention to it. And how is it in the training manual? If you can’t give a reasoned answer to your opponent, send ... Have a problem with Siberia, you are our "partner".
                      3. +1
                        20 November 2015 16: 29
                        are you justifying a nickname? take off the invisible cap, reptiloid ...
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu
                      4. 0
                        20 November 2015 16: 46
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        are you justifying a nickname? take off the invisible cap, reptiloid ...
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu


                        Fear exceptional, I'm an evil demon from Russia fellow laughing
                      5. +1
                        20 November 2015 17: 23
                        scared a hedgehog already ...
    5. 0
      20 November 2015 12: 08
      We can say so about any profession. But from personal practice, we know that among all professions there are different people: both smart and fools and those responsible to society and scum. It seems to me not worth generalizing with sharp estimates. Only harm from loafers is not enough. They sit at their computers and knock on the clave.
  15. 0
    20 November 2015 09: 12
    ..in this sense, we should learn and study from them.
    The second part of the state’s defense against criminals - the prosecutor’s court - in my opinion, is no less lame, and maybe more.
    How many cases, when the police, detectives ... risking their lives, and often die catching criminals, who are then released by the courts ..
  16. +4
    20 November 2015 09: 25
    I will tell you from personal experience.
    at the beginning of the 90's, when there was friendship, chewing gum, etc. between us and the USA, 1 police were sent to us for 10 management for a month, if the memory does not change from Detroit. So to speak, for the exchange of experience. Healthy guys arrived, both white and black, we were surprised then, they were big, all for 180, and weighing about 100kg. They arrived in the line of the militia of public safety, i.e. PPS, traffic police (then traffic police) and other public order protection.
    They arrived with their equipment. at that time we looked at it with our mouths open, each one has a light Kevlar armor, a belt with equipment, I will not describe, as well as with my firearms. We were then struck by a system for fixing a pistol in a holster. Oh, the American cop just uses weapons - a bike. He has an arsenal of non-lethal weapons,. For a month, we realized that the level of training is very high in terms of specific actions.
    preparation and study is different, they have many trainings, practical exercises, where cadets are taught how to act in a given situation before automatism. And what for in the initial training courses, that in educational institutions, one theory. sit listen and write. from practical exercises only shooting in a shooting range exercise No. 1.
    1. +4
      20 November 2015 10: 02
      Quote: Baron Wrangel
      1 police officers were sent to our office for 10 month

      We also had around 00. He liked our kandey in UAZ. They didn’t believe that 8 people could be pushed in there laughing Our demonstrated on some kind of application .....
  17. +9
    20 November 2015 09: 27
    Article plus. But a few words must be said in defense of our policemen ... American policemen are not so resolute and courageous in themselves, they know that even in the event of "shoals", the STATE will stand up for their protection in the face of its whole sickly car. And our policeman, even if he is a thousand times right, will pass ten circles of hell ... And it is not a fact that he will be successful.

    An incident from life that an old traffic cop (now retired for a long time) told me: "I stop a foreigner .. I walk up, they sit and their hands are on the steering wheel, only the window is open. I questioned the documents ... I gave the documents and my hands were on the steering wheel again ... I while I was looking at the documents, the belt of the machine crawled from my shoulder and I just pulled it up with my shoulder ... The driver was changed as it was: there was not just fear on his face - horror, and white-and-white fingers on the steering wheel. I had to urgently calm down and explain that he had no complaints ... "...
    1. +10
      20 November 2015 09: 48
      And in the sequel ...
      The society begins to show interest in the problems of our police only after some extreme happens (and gets publicized): either the policeman in the market will be beaten and a howl will rise, "YES he cannot defend himself, let alone us!" !! ", or as Kazan sadists with a bottle in ... an obscene place and again howling" sadists in uniform and werewolves. " And behind the howl, the question is somehow lost: why does it happen exactly THIS, and not so HOW SHOULD BE? With the policemen beaten up in the bazaar, it is somehow clear and described, but with the other extreme there is much less clarity ... With the "werewolves" cutting money, in general, there is clarity - people came to "earn". But with the sadists extracting the necessary testimony, not everything is so obvious. What kind of interest do they have? And this ... The regional chief of the Ministry of Internal Affairs wants to get a promotion, and this requires good statistics ("sticks"). And he strains the bosses of a lower rank ... And in the end the demand for "sticks" reaches the very bottom, to the people who can make these "sticks". And sooner or later a situevina is created when a "stick" is needed at ANY PRICE, which is called "Take it out, but put it down" .... So they "take it out" and "put it down" ... And when it comes to an extreme, then all the higher management will remain "white and fluffy", giving it to the mercy of grassroots performers. Only about the fact that sadists are often produced by the system itself, there is no strong howl ... I do not justify criminals in uniform, but it annoys me (infuriates, if you will) that the chiefs of these criminals, being actually instigators, often get off with a slight fright.
      1. +3
        20 November 2015 11: 26
        Quote: tolancop
        And in the end, the demand for "sticks" reaches the very bottom, to the people who can make these "sticks"

        Yes sir. The question is right.
        1. +2
          20 November 2015 12: 36
          Quote: 1234567890
          Yes sir. The question is right.

          And after all, they don’t care how. Just take it out and put it down. And God forbid you will not ...... you will have a pale appearance.
          Quote: tolancop
          the fact that the bosses of these criminals, being actually instigators, often get off with a slight startle.

          The loudest screams are that they were not instructed, they did not order ... and the general performer, and the pest, attack him!
      2. +1
        20 November 2015 20: 11
        Quote: tolancop
        ... And in the end the demand for "sticks" reaches the very bottom, to the people who can make these "sticks". And sooner or later a situevina is created, when a "stick" is needed AT ANY PRICE, which is called "Take it out, but put it down" ....

        The stick system is an ugly relic that has not been getting rid of for many years. And all because for this it is necessary, and it is simply necessary to break the whole system ... Who will do it? The system, no matter how vicious it is, will not destroy itself. That is why we observe such perverted "acting" in the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        Well, in the end, as it always happens, ordinary performers suffer, who by their nature are not interested in this rotten system, but only fulfill the requirements that apply to them.
        1. +1
          20 November 2015 23: 14
          You can scold the current system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and others as much as you like. It is possible (at least theoretically admitting such a possibility) to break and build a new, "stickless" one.
          Urya ?! Unfortunately, IMHO, it's too early to rejoice, because in my opinion, soon everything will return to normal, i.e. to the "sticks". And the reason for this phenomenon is simple: there is no system of objective assessment of the effectiveness of the activities of law enforcement agencies. And if it does not exist, then a system of assessment arises that does not suffer from objectivity. I'll try to clarify ... There are 2 neighboring districts of the same city - A and B ... Similar as 2 twin brothers. And now, after six months, the militia head office (administration or whatever it is called) gives the chief city militiaman a report, based on which it follows that 100 thefts were discovered in territory A, 200 hucksters were seized and imprisoned, and in territory B only 70 thefts were disclosed. and bryryg with weed were piled on only 50. Which boss worked better? The answer suggests itself: boss A, his performance is higher. And not everything is so simple ... If we take into account that the head of B and his subordinates had plowed like a damn for several years before and significantly reduced the number of stealers and hucksters in their area, it turns out that, objectively, head A worked better ... no one will take this into account, on the contrary, chief B will still be stuck with a fuse for a decrease in indicators compared to the same Period of the Last Year (APPG is such an infection !!!!). But it may turn out that the head of B does not really do anything, but, on the contrary, cleans the "Augean stables" inherited from the past. The numbers are the same, but without taking into account many factors that sometimes do not depend on chiefs A and B, the interpretation can be diametrically opposite.
          1. +1
            21 November 2015 06: 06
            Such "statistics" was introduced specifically to destroy the country ...
  18. +2
    20 November 2015 09: 46
    For some reason, it is customary for us to show sympathy to the person who committed the crime, and not to his victim. The criminal needs sympathy! Interestingly, at the time the crime was committed, he was thinking about how to deliver the victim a minimum of inconvenience? However, this is just a philosophy.


    Absolutely correct! I watched on TV a plot from the courtroom where the murderer was tried. The whole audience was "sick" for the murderer not to receive a life sentence. Everyone fought for this, forgetting about the parents and relatives of the murdered who were sitting here, to whom no one cared. Their feelings no longer worried anyone ...
    PS Because of this, moral damage in our country is not considered as something important and expensive. They pay a penny or nothing at all.
  19. AUL
    +1
    20 November 2015 10: 04
    Quote: hohryakov066
    What? Torture victim? Or did you watch TV?

    A recent recent case is in Kazan. Before this, only in the last year there have been similar situations in the Urals, the Far East, and Siberia. Are you few? These are only those cases that received wide publicity, could not hush up.
    And I watch TV sometimes, but in moderation. Especially, "Dialogues about Fishing" and KVN. What I wish you too!
    1. +1
      20 November 2015 11: 37
      Quote from AUL
      Recent Recent Case - in Kazan

      Is it with a bottle? What is he recent? They already got everything there, it's time to forget. What kind of manner the citizens have - the nasties remember for a long time, at every opportunity they poke honest diggers not involved in these outrages, and not only they don’t remember the good, but they don’t know at all.
  20. +5
    20 November 2015 10: 11
    The article is definitely a plus, though I would like to learn more about the rules for using weapons, special means and physical. strength with them.
    But even if you do not delve into it, it is clear that mattress mats have a lot to learn in this regard. We, as usual, borrow from foreign experience only the worst. Let us recall Luntik's speeches on a blue eye during the "reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs." The fact that the American cops read out the rights - he, the parquet modernizer, remembered and offered to introduce it. And he didn’t remember what rights the American cops had to use weapons, he didn’t remember that American cops are well protected by the law and they don’t just spit in their faces and they won’t tear off their epaulettes — he also apparently forgot the poor thing. Therefore, he did not offer to implement it. The Law "On Police" in terms of the use of weapons, funds and f / forces has become even worse than before. The videos on the internet, when drunken bastards fight with the same traffic cops, and even roll on the ground together in an embrace, instead of sitting in bracelets in a dog lover - they are very revealing.
    And by the way: On legal grounds, attract a bastard who throws himself, breaks off shoulder straps, etc. - pure hemorrhoids, you will get worn out. And then another magistrate disdainfully squeezes out something like "Duc, this is your job, okay, I'll give him a day." In this situation, there are two options: 1. Wipe off and continue to endure and flow around (in this case, it is better to quit right away). 2. to bring to the department and carry out educational work in an accessible language (which is much easier and more effective, and most of the broken-hearted understand everything correctly). This is where most of the "police brutality" comes from.
    1. +1
      20 November 2015 10: 56
      ... maybe even more of police corruption?
      1. 0
        20 November 2015 11: 49
        What is the connection? Corruption is a separate issue. Duc about it is better to talk with the Maaaskvichs and comrades from the southern regions, otherwise I'm not very familiar with the topic.
        1. 0
          20 November 2015 12: 14
          What is separate right away?
  21. +2
    20 November 2015 10: 18
    Quote: Jack-B
    Quote: Corporal
    Article +, although it is far from complete.

    And I minusanul. I do not quite understand why there is an advertisement for the American police here? She's too specific. To find out what to learn from them, you have to delve a lot into the differences in the legal framework of our and their police, in the mentality and in all other aspects.
    The driver is recommended to put his hands on the "ten and two." No sudden movements and attempts to get documents out of your pocket (even worse - delve into the glove compartment).

    Duc they have almost free possession of weapons. It is clear that the "officer" has reason to be nervous. Why would our people adopt such "honed procedures"? In America, there is a cult of muscle cars and a lot of good roads for racing, including with the police. In such a situation, a ram on every police car is probably justified. And why is it to ours? In short, perhaps out of habit, the work of the American police is amazing, but if you dig deeper, its advantages over our law enforcement officers are IMHO controversial.

    Tobish is normal when, even in front of the cameras, a diamond one yells at a policeman throws it on the hood, and the AK hangs on his chest and cannot even wrap his hands, for such actions.
    1. +1
      20 November 2015 13: 39
      there are probably too many brilliants that completely lost fear, and the one with AK - sucker, or behind the scenes already got a couple in his pocket ...

      maybe behind the scenes it’s still left where the police were wrong, so the diamond had the right to behave like that
  22. +5
    20 November 2015 10: 25
    I agree - the article is a plus. Our policemen, after all, are too tightly squeezed by the framework of the Rules, Instructions, Laws, etc. He is spread rot, but he cannot do anything. They beat him, but he stupidly stands and asks - calm down. If they stop me, why should I greet? He showed, told and left. Rights to download? To whom? Who is in the service? Show yourself by whom? Moron?
    And the young tenacious majors - to spread rot until the blue in the face and so that they could not walk, the aphid bars ....
    1. 0
      20 November 2015 11: 01
      Sheep ... still pockets twist

      Yes, not to spread rot, and if he is right, and not a sheep himself against such a major, then at least he will break his pen ...
      1. +2
        20 November 2015 11: 35
        ".. and if he is right, and against such a major it is not a sheep himself, then at least he has broken the handle ..."
        Did you understand what you wrote? Just the "major", in contrast to the ordinary driver, has a bunch of lawyers, or even an acquaintance (read - "lured" by his dad, a general of not the very last department).
        Describe the further development of events for a nasty-looking policeman, or do you figure it out yourself?
        1. 0
          20 November 2015 12: 10
          you didn’t realize it, and didn’t understand ...
          1. 0
            20 November 2015 12: 27
            otherwise it turns out that they can do absolutely everything.
            a lawyer must work within the law, a policeman should twist his hands too ...
    2. +2
      20 November 2015 11: 29
      Quote: Prop
      I agree - the article is a plus. Our policemen, after all, are too tightly squeezed by the framework of the Rules, Instructions, Laws, etc. He is spread rot, but he cannot do anything. They beat him, but he stupidly stands and asks - calm down. If they stop me, why should I greet? He showed, told and left. Rights to download? To whom? Who is in the service? Show yourself by whom? Moron?
      And the young tenacious majors - to spread rot until the blue in the face and so that they could not walk, the aphid bars ....


      That’s the problem, they’re afraid of touching the major, because there may be consequences, but they can heal an ordinary layman, and even without a camera, and be healthy ...
      1. +1
        20 November 2015 12: 41
        I slammed you in disapproval of disapproval, but hurried. And among ordinary inhabitants, still those frames come across where to the majors. As for the hell, you know, the temptation of power. And not everyone can overcome it. And this is not only about the police.
        My friend, a policeman, has a good friend who will always come and if that will be a witness. It’s just that I know that he’ll never take a drunk and won’t be unlimited. And we are not afraid of majors ... :)
      2. +2
        20 November 2015 13: 39
        "This is the catch, that they are afraid to touch the major, because there may be consequences, but an ordinary man in the street, and even without a camera, will fuck up right away and be healthy ..."
        The symptom of the disease was described, but the cause was not. They prefer not to get involved with majors because they know that with rare exceptions, protection from their state (leadership) will not be expected. On the contrary, most likely it will be necessary to fight off not even from the major "with comrades", but from the state machine represented by the prosecutor's office, etc. And you will have to fight back on your own ... And it's not a fact that you will fight back. The knowledge of this circumstance leads to serious "enthusiasm" of the police.

        Regarding the "lawlessness" of the police, I recalled a story told by a good friend (a policeman, retired for a long time). "... In a crowded place on a winter evening (it was already dark), they detained a hooligan citizen. They took him by the white hands and took him to the" bobby. " "policemen, lawless people, 37 years old", etc. I got it - I will not save !!! Of course, we will catch up, but ... WE WILL NOT CATCH ... and on occasion we DO NOT IDENTIFY. "Detainee:" Guys, will you not? "the detainee escaped from us, went to the" human rights activist "and ran away! The “human rights activist” sat down in a snowdrift out of such chagrin, surveyed the world around her in complete surprise and shouted: “POLICE !!!! ...”. The people around the bellies tore .... ".
  23. -2
    20 November 2015 10: 37
    Munosoval. The article is one-sided. I just want to say - what a beauty it is to live in the USA and "what a disgusting life in evil Mordor."
    1. 0
      20 November 2015 11: 29
      Quote: alexej123
      how delightful it is to live in the USA and "what a disgusting life in evil Mordor."

      The article is not "for zhist", but about the work of the police. And not one-sided, but a little superficial.
      1. +1
        20 November 2015 11: 37
        I admit, I got a little excited, it's a shame for our guys in the comments. Superficial, but not "small".
      2. The comment was deleted.
  24. +4
    20 November 2015 10: 41
    Article +, of our police + too. American police, of course, are not the standard, but they work systemically. This is a national level. We have one law, but in different regions laws are read differently. And not just the police. And there are reasons to respect the police. Any shit, no matter how he fought for freedom and wished for power, as soon as something happens he runs to where? To the police, prosecutors, etc.
    1. +1
      20 November 2015 11: 34
      Quote: made13
      Any shit, no matter how he fought for freedom and wished for power, as soon as something happens he runs to where? To the police, prosecutors, etc.


      Always enraged by this argument, but what, are there other alternatives? What, to understand? In the 90s, when the power was weak, they turned to bandits, for example ..))
      1. -1
        20 November 2015 12: 17
        Just the bandits were more honest ... laughing
  25. 0
    20 November 2015 10: 53
    The law should be the law, not the drawbar for majors.
  26. 0
    20 November 2015 11: 08
    Quote: 1234567890
    And by the way: Legally, to attract a scoop that throws, breaks off shoulder straps, etc. - Pure water hemorrhoids, make out worn out.


    Nothing like this. Himself in his youth was a trickster in this role. The next morning, they gave an admin article for disobedience and resistance to organs. crying
    1. +1
      20 November 2015 11: 43
      Quote: Rash
      The next morning, they gave an admin article for disobedience and resistance to organs.

      Lucky mean?
      Here, after all, where it just doesn’t have to. Much depends on the personal relationship between leaders or individual employees with prosecutorial and judicial in the field. That is, the system does not work, but personal connections.
      1. 0
        20 November 2015 12: 12
        Yes, lucky. They wrote out a sickly fine and released. But they could have been for 15 days ... belay
  27. -1
    20 November 2015 11: 22
    Quote: kalibr
    By the way, according to statistics, an American cop takes out a gun once every 7 years for service and uses it every 17 years! That is, it is very rare!


    Incorrect statistics. if the cop took out a gun, he immediately uses it, doesn’t fire warning shots like his Russian counterpart, plus it should be borne in mind that in the United States more than 300 million barrels are in the population and therefore the cops use weapons in priority order over other special means

  28. 0
    20 November 2015 11: 54
    All the same, I personally am most impressed with the British police, who most often do not even carry weapons.
    1. 0
      20 November 2015 12: 20
      Quote: Zymran
      All the same, I personally am most impressed with the British police, who most often do not even carry weapons.

      We have PPSniki, the VV-NAC Guard, conscripts do not carry the same weapons, except for the RUBBER-73 STICK. laughing Well, maybe pepper spray.
    2. +2
      20 November 2015 13: 51
      Wrong they they him did not wear.
      And now they are wearing as cute, and to strengthen the assault. rifles carry in the trunk.
      this garbage with unarmed "bobbies" was stopped back in the mid-2000s, when a large crowd of cattle began to beat up the British police.
  29. +1
    20 November 2015 12: 07
    In the US, the police are quite effective. The budget, depending on the state or municipality. They report for every cent. Plus informatization, all kinds of computers, gadgets lotions.
    Electivity, Midwest, Shirifov okrug, they then recruit assistants, report to the population.
    In our KZ, they want to create something like that, the Local Police, they really don’t talk about any election of representatives of the authorities, they only report to the local executive authorities and the population that something from the USSR, there the local bosses reported to OBL, GOR, RAY lump of the Party and the party was one. Let's see what happens after the NG.
  30. -1
    20 November 2015 12: 23
    it's just that our cops are more soulful ... The great Russian soul cannot be hidden under the form.
    and the soul, she does not like instructions and protocols, she is free to do whatever she wants)
    therefore, our cops very often have everything through the opa.
    and omerikosy as robots all according to the instructions. such cops would not have taken root with us. too correct.
    1. -3
      20 November 2015 12: 25
      There are almost no Russians in the police ... sew on the "Russian" ones.
  31. 0
    20 November 2015 12: 49
    At the expense of cars, their cars are "chic", spacious, thanks to road information. If you take, again, the Midwest-real America there is mainly driven by the National Automobile Industry, the car is less than 100 cubic meters. inches is not interesting. It's not not hipsters or so ... Lovers of foreign cars or hybrids.
    SWAT is basically not a separate unit, such as OMON or special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Mostly there are active patrol policemen, assistant sheriffs and employees of special departments. Well, this mainly depends on the budget. Of course, this is an additional salary, social media. insurance and a good pension, the ability to even get out earlier.
  32. +2
    20 November 2015 12: 54
    Comparing American policemen with ours, many here support the thesis: "We have a policeman that a child - anyone can offend him." And they will regret that we have not perfected the skills of a quick and cruel reprisal against violators who do not fulfill the requirements of a policeman. I am reminded of an incident that a friend of mine who lives in the countryside told me recently.
    In the morning she went to refuel an ATV, on which her 13-year-old son drives a country road. On the side of the road is a car of nuts, one of them needs to stop. She pressed herself against the curb and stopped. A healthy man in uniform with red eyes and a thick smell of fume came staggering toward her.
    - Your documents.
    - What kind?
    - Documents!
    - Here is the data sheet.
    - It is not necessary. Your documents.
    - Do you need my passport?
    - Documents!!
    A friend looked at the police car, hoping to see someone sober in it. A companion slept in the driver's seat, opening his mouth wide and throwing his head back on the back of the seat.
    - What kind?!
    The traffic cop sighed heavily, took out a handkerchief, wiped sweat from his forehead, turned and went to wake his partner. He got out of the car with a question:
    “Did you check her documents?”
    - What kind?
    - Documents!
    - What kind?!
    The first gait turned in her direction and waved his rod.
    - Drive!
    She left, without waiting for a final clarification of the question, which documents were required by the traffic police in the early morning from the driver of the teenage ATV.
    Do you think that the main problem of our law enforcement system is the legal insecurity of police officers and their unwillingness to harshly suppress attempts to disobey by violators? And I think - that the bulk of the police, prosecutors, judges come to this system not in order to serve the law, but only to use the law for personal purposes.
    1. +1
      20 November 2015 13: 09
      By the way, you need a license for a quadric if the engine is more than 50 cc. What, and the "Chinese" are quite playful, there are up to 50 cubes. Earlier, if memory does not change, the rights of a "tractor driver" should have been. Now it seems category A, there with notes Enough. And from the age of 14. possibly.
      So the case, a 12-year-old snotty knocked down a little girl on a quadric, almost the "war" ended in us. Kazakhstan.
      1. 0
        20 November 2015 13: 13
        Quote: marshes
        if the engine is more than 50 cc
        Specially wrote "teenage", cubes 25-30.
        1. +1
          20 November 2015 13: 31
          Quote: Stanislav
          Specially wrote "teenage", cubes 25-30.

          Yes, they also need to be registered according to the idea, as well as cyclists. All the same, road users.
          Here is a case, two years ago. Shopping at the store, I hear a signal. I look at the scooter near my car and rises and hides in the nearest gateway. The car is in the parking pocket, the left side mirror and the full-length strip are torn off. Where to look? Or wait for insurers? On camera everything is spotted, to whom? Repair in 300 bucks.
          Motorcyclists in Europe have light-reflecting vests in them, orange make them dress. We are silent on this topic. I used to ride a chopper and wear a vest, even wear it for hunting. There are a lot of woodpeckers. And the beast has black and white eyesight.
          1. +1
            20 November 2015 13: 46
            Quote: marshes
            Here is a case, two years ago ...
            "In our village there was a similar case. Uncle Yermolai blew the goat so that its horns were already straightened."
        2. 0
          20 November 2015 13: 46
          Quote: Stanislav
          Specially wrote "teenage", cubes 25-30.


          For reference. Starting November 5, 2013, a category M driver's license was introduced for driving mopeds and scooters.
          In accordance with the Federal Law "On Road Safety"
          1. The following categories and their subcategories of vehicles are established in the Russian Federation, for which special right is granted to drive (hereinafter - the right to drive vehicles):
          category "M" - mopeds and light quads;
          So that there is no doubt, the same Federal Law clarification:
          "Moped" is a two- or three-wheeled power-driven vehicle, the maximum design speed of which does not exceed 50 km / h, and has an internal combustion engine with a working volume not exceeding 50 cubic meters. cm, or an electric motor with a rated maximum power in a continuous load mode of more than 0,25 kW and less than 4 kW. Quadricycles with similar technical characteristics are equated to mopeds.
          And further:
          2.1. The driver of a motor vehicle is obliged to:
          2.1.1. To carry with them and, at the request of the police, transfer them, for verification:
          a driver’s license or a temporary permit for the right to drive a vehicle of the corresponding category;

          This change in the SDA entered into force on April 8, 2014. From this date, drivers of mopeds and scooters are required to have a driver's license with them.
          Just in case, let me remind you that not only category M rights are suitable for driving mopeds and scooters. The Federal Law "On Road Safety" allows driving these vehicles with any open category of rights. For example, if you have a category B driver's license, then it is quite suitable for driving a scooter.
          1. +1
            20 November 2015 14: 02
            Quote: Cthulhu
            For reference. Starting November 5, 2013 ...
            What is your certificate for? To cover up the behavior of two drunks in uniform on the road? Who told you that it was after 5.11.2013/3/XNUMX? She told me about XNUMX weeks ago, not as news, but as a conversation. The technical passport suggested that they look at the technical characteristics of the vehicle and make sure that a driver's license is not required for it. But the point is not even that, but the fact that in such a "zyuz" they could not remember the word "rights", or maybe they felt that rights were not needed here, but they really wanted money.
            1. 0
              20 November 2015 14: 07
              look, do not insist on your innocence, otherwise they will simply close the comments on the article ... this happens here. lol
            2. 0
              20 November 2015 14: 15
              Stanislav. No offense, but I do not believe your relative. In our country, in one of the Siberian regions, the staff of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is being reduced. And not the first one. And the cranks you described flew out of the organs yet xs when. The people hold on to the service not only with two hands, clings their teeth ...
              1. 0
                20 November 2015 14: 27
                It also doesn’t happen ...
                1. +1
                  20 November 2015 14: 38
                  I do not argue. A wave rolls, rolls from behind the Urals.
                  1. 0
                    20 November 2015 14: 42
                    It's vryatli, people are much better there. bully
                    1. 0
                      20 November 2015 14: 45
                      Umm. A wave is rolling over the Urals from the West :)
                      1. 0
                        20 November 2015 14: 50
                        Something was written there about the Siberian regions, they are from the east ...
                      2. 0
                        20 November 2015 15: 13
                        Here are the Christmas trees. I explain. According to observations, everything good and modern comes to us in Siberia from the European part of Russia. But with a delay of a year or two. The same goes for the bad.
                      3. 0
                        20 November 2015 15: 18
                        according to observations, all the good comes only from Siberia ...
                      4. +1
                        20 November 2015 15: 25
                        Information Note:
                        "We have such an expression - here you are devil tongued" ...
                        wink
                      5. +2
                        20 November 2015 16: 01
                        Quote: tasha
                        tasch (1) RU Today, 15:25 ↑

                        Information Note:
                        "We have such an expression - here you are devil tongued" ...
                        wink


                        + also noticed laughing. Old songs about the main thing (independent Siberia) fellow. Yes buddy
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        SectaHaki US
                        I thought you were an ordinary troll, but it seems that you underestimated the daughter of an officer laughing Companies created new ones to counter Russian propaganda, but the manuals remained old. Only it looks like our "partner" from the United States made a mistake. wink
              2. 0
                20 November 2015 14: 51
                Quote: tasha
                I do not believe your relative
                This is not my relative, and it is your right to believe or not. Maybe you have certification in one of the Siberian regions that didn’t take place according to the tax rate, and they are being reduced because of the lack of professionalism and not personal loyalty to superiors, who knows ...
                1. 0
                  20 November 2015 15: 04
                  Stanislav, thanks for the answer. And we have a problem. What else will I tell you. Tell me a friend about such a case, I would have obtained information about the place, the time of the incident from her personal harm and would have handed over such dummies. :)
            3. -1
              20 November 2015 14: 36
              And then 2 drunk or from Budun de..la in uniform? Commentary on cubes or not?
              1. 0
                20 November 2015 14: 43
                data sheet to the cubes that she offered.
                1. 0
                  20 November 2015 15: 13
                  Quote: SectaHaki
                  data sheet to the cubes that she offered.


                  Hmm. Anyway. Forest and Brevik are not in my style. I’ll try to explain this. A question arose between two forum participants: do you need rights to motor vehicles up to 50 cubic meters or not? This is the question I answered in my comment. No more, no less.
                  1. 0
                    20 November 2015 15: 17
                    Quote: Cthulhu
                    A question arose between the two forum participants: do you need rights to motor vehicles up to 50 cubic meters or not

                    there wasn’t such ...
                    1. 0
                      20 November 2015 15: 48
                      Quote: SectaHaki
                      Quote: Cthulhu
                      A question arose between the two forum participants: do you need rights to motor vehicles up to 50 cubic meters or not

                      there wasn’t such ...


                      Respect good

                      Quote: marshes
                      swamps (2) EE Today, 13:09 ↑

                      By the way, quadrics need rights if the engine is more than 50 cc


                      Quote: Stanislav
                      Stanislav (2) RU Today, 13:13 ↑

                      Quote: marshes
                      if the engine is more than 50 cc
                      Specially wrote "teenage", cubes 25-30.


                      Yes? No? Well, tell me wrong, sorry ... I will give you a candy in the form of +, or rude as the last argument laughing
                      1. +1
                        20 November 2015 16: 09
                        Quote: Cthulhu
                        Yes? No? Well, tell me wrong, sorry ... I will give you a candy in the form of +, or rude as the last argument

                        We have similar legislation with the Russian Federation and the KZ.
                        Only they like to experiment with us, then they introduce you.
                        My will, on all vehicles introduced state. numbers and those passports. Up to bicycles. Corruption - we introduced a rather interesting thing to the public service center, a public service center. A fucking thing. It's convenient, fast and everything is clear. And most importantly, it works if we take into account our corruption?
                      2. +1
                        20 November 2015 16: 42
                        Quote: marshes
                        We have similar legislation with the Russian Federation and the KZ.


                        I agree with you 100%. Once a friend from the KZ asked me to advise on the divorce process, I tried to deny from the beginning, but in the end I took it. I don’t know how it is now, but 5 years ago the family and civil codes are almost identical (although there are still nuances).
                        We also introduced similar centers. I really did not know that this topic came from KZ. Your legislators are huge +. Let's share more similar know-how. These PSCs really removed the extortion of money upon receipt of certificates. Here, where, where, and here in terms of the fight against corruption is a definite plus.
                        At the expense of rights to all types of vehicles, I do not even know. I had doubts about mopeds up to 50 cubic meters, although probably a measure of coercion due to the huge growth of this type of equipment. But the bike, it's overkill in my opinion.
                      3. 0
                        20 November 2015 17: 14
                        Quote: Cthulhu
                        We also introduced similar centers. I really did not know that this topic came from KZ. Your legislators are huge +. Let's share more similar know-how. These PSCs really removed the extortion of money upon receipt of certificates. Here, where, where, and here in terms of the fight against corruption is a definite plus.

                        We do not yet cover all the services. The car theme has become clean, but real estate. Private house, renaming the village and the street. In view of our mentality, if you arrived at Kruzak 200, you are a big boss. And there things were in the land, ARCH, committee. The truth was decided there very quickly and at low cost and in the public service center confirmation and a new house. book -15 minutes. It would also be desirable to introduce them into the public service center.
                        Quote: Cthulhu
                        At the expense of rights to all types of vehicles, I do not even know. I had doubts about mopeds up to 50 cubic meters, although probably a measure of coercion due to the huge growth of this type of equipment. But the bike, it's overkill in my opinion.

                        Yes, at least to get reflective vests to wear, it wouldn’t be bad. Now they’ve got divorced, you can’t notice them during the rebuilding. State numbers are obligatory. They behave not permissibly impudently. I’m afraid to get into a bad situation, I just physically cripple laughing
                      4. +1
                        20 November 2015 17: 54
                        Quote: marshes
                        Yes, at least to get reflective vests to wear, it would not be bad. Now they are divorced, you can not notice when rebuilding.


                        Agree laughing . Especially motorcyclists in a traffic jam between the rows, also a gazette near the windshield, in general a fairy tale. The feeling that he had already crushed someone.

                        In our DSPs, on the contrary, for the most part, certificates with real estate and land are connected, and certificates are issued about the absence of a criminal record. Although what for these criminal records are needed. More precisely, it is clear that some employers require, but what for the state officially encourages the violation of the Labor Code, it is not clear. Cars are still the fiefdom of the REO traffic police, although there are good shifts. Now you do not need to remove the car from the register when selling. In general, the sale and purchase of bribes from the traffic police left as a class. There were only obvious corruption components in the REO: these are rights and thieves. According to the numbers they came up with something, I don’t know, wait and see. According to the driver’s license, they’re also wise there, but it seems they’re not very sorry.
                      5. 0
                        20 November 2015 18: 24
                        Quote: Cthulhu
                        Especially motorcyclists in a traffic jam between the rows, also a gazette near the windshield, in general a fairy tale. The feeling that he had already crushed someone.

                        Yes, it's time to figure it out, I started with the IL-Jupiter the end of the Honda chopper. Now I pay with my health.
                        Quote: Cthulhu
                        In our DSPs, on the contrary, for the most part, certificates with real estate and land are connected, and certificates are issued about the absence of a criminal record. Although what for these criminal records are needed.

                        I then reissued two years ago, maybe something has changed with us. I often come across cars, extra earnings, it is cleaner there. Previously, there was an opportunity to drive a car from Europe or America, the UAE. I tied up with this topic as well as with the forest from the RF. I didn’t have enough money. I didn’t raise money, it was possible to feel “worthy” there, and not a poor relative. laughing
                      6. 0
                        20 November 2015 18: 59
                        Quote: marshes
                        , you could feel "worthy" there, and not a poor relative.

                        There was generally a "rzhaka", we had over 14 thousand cash for two, plus a visa, KAZKOM, and traveler's checks. Zyatek almost doubted, I changed the grandmother as best I could for 5-10-20, supposedly by taxi. the one about Kazakhstan, the country of Borats, by the way, that's how they met, another topic. He thought that we were drug dealers or spies laughing , that I shoot well. Damn Comedy. laughing And in homons of 100 mostly. The KGB, the former PV in another state, by the way, for the visa, the same braingggg, raped ... Before that I went to Germany, another sister, I still had visas.
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                        20 November 2015 16: 23
                        No! You thought it was a question? Bite it yourself ... Do you have any of it?
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        21 November 2015 13: 10
        In Russia, the rights of a tractor driver are necessary for an ATV and it is forbidden to drive on public roads on it !!!! Scooter up to 50 cube, rights are not needed for any violation (drunk condition, departure for oncoming traffic, etc.) fine 300 rubles))))
  33. +1
    20 November 2015 12: 54
    What do I think on Friday.
    Modern American police are the product of fierce natural selection. Who relaxed, violated the rules-instructions - that long ago some Billy Kid or Al Capone made an extra hole.
    And our what-slobs is. For example, do you read the instructions first or press the red button first?
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      20 November 2015 21: 33
      Well, well, that’s where they were catching Al-Kapone with the whole police for ten years and couldn’t catch .... In the end, he was screwed by a Jewish accountant for tax evasion.
  34. 0
    20 November 2015 14: 16
    Quote: Corporal
    From hooliganism to terrorism. From a year to 30-40-60. Now I don’t remember the border.
    At home, they do not flicker. So it would be the same for us, without looking back, so to speak, on the cryoprotectants.

    From a year hardly.
    Attempted federal property, intentional harm to federal property, intentional harm to national security entities, obstruction of the work of bodies ensuring US national security, terrorism ...
    This is only offhand, without trying to sew an attempt on the life and health of federal employees and so on, from sixty to life years.
  35. +1
    20 November 2015 18: 41
    Us lumbago everywhere ripened)) Oleg switched to the cops, it's something. We are waiting for the article than Valmart is better than the Crossroads.
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      20 November 2015 18: 49
      And who said that he is yours? Because he writes in Russian?
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      21 November 2015 13: 08
      Our shot. And the lumbago is when it stung in the side (not with a "feather").
  36. 0
    20 November 2015 19: 20
    The emphasis in the article is on the technical equipment of the American police and this part is most interesting.
    Comparing the work of our police and the American is logically incorrect, at least for two main reasons:
    1. In the United States, in addition to officially authorized weapons, citizens have tens of thousands of illegal weapons.
    2. The difference in legislation.
    I will give the third argument, in my opinion the most significant: the US police state is standing guard over the interests of the rich. There are areas in the same New York where the police do not scamper at all, but in rich areas, one for every square meter.
    It would be nice to recall here the US bar.
    I still remember comparisons with the USSR for 1967 - in the United States there were fewer people than in the USSR, about 200 million in the United States. 250 million in the USSR. There are 25 thousand lawyers in the USSR, and 200 thousand in the USA.
    I think that these figures say a lot. There are many other facts - those who seek will find.
  37. +1
    20 November 2015 21: 30
    Garbage - it is rubbish in Africa. Both in America and in the UK.
  38. -1
    21 November 2015 12: 51
    The US police are the regime's watchdogs. Such "police" must be "treated" mercilessly so that they know their place - the protection of the population, and not a demonstrative robbery.
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      21 November 2015 13: 07
      "feds", and even then not all ... the police in the states are elected by the local population, and are subordinate to local authorities.
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    22 November 2015 12: 13
    Quote: Down House
    Quote: Misha Honest
    These are the things

    Here you are lying, you feel godless, or your friend is hiding something - maybe he had drugs with him or something else, but now he just excuses himself?
    Because there are no fools in the police, to sit out of the blue for a couple of thousand for a couple of years.

    And let's remember the case, even the "soviet" period! With a GBS at the station - what did these ghouls want from a man on the site waiting for the train ?! (that the Ministry of Internal Affairs himself helped to pull out his shitty people) Or do you think that all this has outgrown and we are now a society of the righteous? Well then, look out into the street, many who you do not like may be employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB and any GB !!! request For example, a neighbor from the entrance, who pisses drunk on the corner of his own house in front of passers-by. Yes, the steel is equalized, but the rows are being cleaned from below, whereas first the top should be cleaned, so much so that those who are below, on the ground, generally have no desire to “crap”!

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