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American police. View from the outside

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“I what? What are you? Why are you? ”Sometimes we hear how overly brave (and often not too sober) our fellow citizens are talking with law enforcement officers, almost without having enough of them“ by the breasts ”.

What is considered mundane for Russia will not roll across the ocean. Any kind of altercation of this kind with the American “cop” ends unambiguously. Whack a baton. And stun in the side. After a couple of minutes, the battered and hushed “intruder” is already sitting humbly on the curb in handcuffs.

Particularly desperate worth trying the next entertainment. Set up a chase, then stop, and when the police get out of their cars and begin to move in, start moving again. Great chance that they will discharge the clip in the fugitive. And then prove that they were wrong.

Needlessly tough? Hardly. For some reason, it is customary to show sympathy to the person who committed the crime, and not to the victim. The criminal needs sympathy! Interestingly, at the time of the commission of the crime, he was thinking about how to deliver a minimum of inconvenience to the victim? However, this is just a philosophy.

Clear, clear instructions and effective methods of the American police - this is exactly what is worth taking note of our law enforcement officers. Coherence, excellent training and organization, giving rise to respect for people “in shape”. And who discourages any desire to prove his “toughness” in disputes with the defenders of law and order.

The police do their work “on the top five”, having all the necessary means and legal guarantees of their own safety. At the same time insuring yourself about all sorts of surprises.



A simple example is to stop the “intruder”. Everything worked out in detail. The policeman gets up behind, always turning the wheels to the left - so that he immediately starts chasing. At night, cut in a powerful searchlight. Naturally, everything that happens is recorded on the camera.

Then the whole ceremony begins. When approaching, the cop will necessarily touch the left rear headlight with his hand (he will leave his fingerprints on the car; just in case). He tries to go along the car itself, so that the driver sitting in it has the maximum obstruction and the possibility of making any provocations. Always gets up behind, hiding behind the doors. In this situation, you do not have enough time to turn around and attack the officer. He will react faster.

Everything is strictly according to the instructions. The policeman does not relax for a second. He is on duty, and this is felt in every movement.

The driver is recommended to put his hands on “ten and two”. No sudden movements and attempts to get the documents out of your pocket (even worse, dig into the glove compartment). The likelihood that an officer will get into a fuss and shoot you is small - he is an adequate person after all. But the realization of the possibility of such a scenario discourages the desire to break the rule. Hands on “ten and two”!

And now: “Your rights and registration, please”.

Obviously, he took them not to look and, with a shrug, to return them back. He will, of course, return them. But only with penalty points. And maybe it will not return: drunk driving is punishable by deprivation for two years.

Usually at this moment there is another police car nearby. Cops don't like to go it alone. They rarely inhibit violators. And such an “extraordinary” event is a reason to call for reinforcements.

American “cops” do not often slow down anyone. The system is designed in such a way that it is safe for law-abiding citizens (and, however banal it may sound, it represents a tangible threat to violators). “Kop” cannot stop anyone on the street under the pretext of “checking documents”. This is nonsense. The only thing that he will achieve is that he will be declined in both cases of the English language.

- Your name?
- you suspect me of something?
- Нет.
“Then I don’t have to tell you about it.” Goodbye.
- Have a good day.

Like their Russian colleagues, American “cops” love to ambush on the road.

But they do not like it when someone “hangs” on their tail. Seeing this, the police will immediately come out and impose a non-acidic fine. According to the officer, you are blocking his review and generally interfere with his work. So keep the interval!

By the way, the appeal "officer" does not mean that before you is a brave adjutant with epaulets. This may be the most common corporal. In this context, the Officer is just an “official”, and the place where he serves is, of course, called the “office”.

The cops themselves are divided into local, state and federal. The powers of the first two do not extend beyond their state. New York City Police Colonel for Texas police zero without a wand. Accordingly, if the violator crossed the border, the police of the neighboring state continues to chase.

Finally, if something serious has happened, the FBI and the SWAT takeover group (“UDAR” come to the rescue, means “special weapon and tactics "). However, it is already completely different. история.

“Hearts and Motors”

Police cars in the United States do not differ in luxury and variety, like the Dubai police supercars. But the fact that they have serious technology, no doubt. In confirmation - a harsh “ram” in the nose of each “polis-kara” for pushing the most obstinate and inadequate from the road.

The Police Interceptor (“Interceptor”) on the chassis of the Ford Crown Victoria remains the classic police car. Powerful and very heavy. The last of the classic sedans with a frame structure of the body. Thanks to its weight and size, indestructible strength and reliability, the “Interceptor” has earned a high reputation from law enforcement officers.



The car is equipped with the stupid American V8 engine, which, with a volume of 4,6 l, produces only 250 hp. As is known, the Yankees, unlike the Germans, do not favor the afterburner and turbocharging, preferring to save the resource. Not surprisingly, the majority of “Interceptors” have mileage over 100 thousand miles, and this is far from the limit. Beasts.

Of high technology, “Interceptor” has one curious system. Camera with automatic scanning of machine numbers with their subsequent “breaking through” through the database. Moving in the stream, the cop will quickly find out who the malicious intruder is, who hasn’t paid the fine or the registration has expired.

A few years ago, the American police had a new generation of “Interceptors” on the chassis of the Ford Taurus (365 hp). In addition to these powerful machines, unremarkable cars are used to patrol highways “under cover”. The only way to calculate them in a thick stream of cars is a gratuitous squeak of a radar detector. When you notice the police number and special equipment above the left mirror, it will be too late. He spotted that you were driving in excess.

American police. View from the outside


The American police are not perfect. Although the ideal is probably not anywhere. The “protection” of underground businesses, racism and other traditional values ​​of American cops cannot take away the main thing: recognition in society that a policeman is a force and a law. Where no one has a desire to prove the opposite.
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  1. aba
    aba 20 November 2015 06: 21 New
    -13
    The probability that the officer is nervous and shoots you is small - he is still an adequate person.

    Especially since you are not a teenager. And shooting teenagers of both sexes is the cops' favorite pastime.
    1. corporal
      corporal 20 November 2015 06: 47 New
      37
      Quote: aba
      And shoot teenagers

      Are your hands itching to start srach?
      Want more information: Forum of the Ministry of Internal Affairs employees> Forum of the Ministry of Internal Affairs> Cooperation and interaction with colleagues from other countries
      USA COPs online
      ================================================== ==
      hands on “ten and two”-if anyone didn’t understand- just hands on the steering column, and God forbid at this time to try to scratch the crotch, even if it was impatient laughing - then you will only complain to the Apostle Peter ......

      Article +although it is far from complete.
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 20 November 2015 08: 03 New
        +6
        Quote: Corporal
        do not bring the Lord at this time to try to scratch the perineum, even if itch

        We do not need such jokes. And then in America, even listening to music through headphones is dangerous - they can shoot. And it is also advisable to walk with your hands raised in advance, otherwise they can also slap.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 20 November 2015 09: 01 New
          +2
          Quote: GRAY
          can shoot

          Here morons, there a couple of seconds after the shot it was clear that the artery was hooked.
        2. Secta
          Secta haki 20 November 2015 09: 28 New
          -54
          In Russia it is even worse, because the majority of the people are disarmed, and almost completely can’t answer to the arbitrariness of the corrupt police.
          1. GRAY
            GRAY 20 November 2015 10: 04 New
            17
            Quote: SectaHaki
            In Russia it is even worse, because the majority of the people are disarmed, and almost completely can’t answer to the arbitrariness of the corrupt police.

            Worse than in fascist America? Truth?
            Can you recall the Bundy family?
            http://www.kontinent.org/article.php?aid=535a4cac3a091
            1. Secta
              Secta haki 20 November 2015 10: 40 New
              -1
              Well, and how did this riot end when the people gathered with weapons? laughing
              a video of how the police and the feds were backing away from there, the network is ...

              Also, a video of how the police unsuccessfully sued two brothers who lawfully shot in front of their house those who were going to kill the cops, and the police did not sue what it was, but because they placed on their private property a poster with a photo of what happened visible from passing cars cars and pedestrians, and at least it was so publicized - the corrupt press could no longer ignore this fact ...
              1. GRAY
                GRAY 20 November 2015 11: 01 New
                +4
                Quote: SectaHaki
                Well, and how did this riot end when the people gathered with weapons?

                But nothing that the local "non-corrupt" police all this time hid under the broom?
                People in uniform are not even cops.
                1. Secta
                  Secta haki 20 November 2015 11: 11 New
                  -4
                  The police were there, and the cops and the feds, and these ... And the part was in olive, foreign uniforms and without insignia winked . Back when the armed people came with American flags they all gave.
                  1. GRAY
                    GRAY 20 November 2015 11: 37 New
                    +2
                    Quote: SectaHaki
                    The police were there, and the cops and the feds, and these ...

                    It later. Do you see at least one policeman in the video? The local sheriff and his assistants did not answer calls and completely avoided fulfilling their immediate duties.
                    And is it called serving and protecting?
                    1. Secta
                      Secta haki 20 November 2015 12: 23 New
                      -6
                      But it was ... They stayed at their posts later, or were they told to do so by the "feds"?

                      In Russia even judges are now appointed. When they were elected, even then every second of the prisoners was sitting innocently, simply because he "did not like" such a person in the courtroom.
                      1. Throw
                        Throw 20 November 2015 16: 11 New
                        +3
                        On the topic of Amer cops there is a great video tutorial for afroniggs! laughing
                      2. Secta
                        Secta haki 20 November 2015 16: 17 New
                        +3
                        And they also have a game to cut down white.
                      3. Secta
                        Secta haki 20 November 2015 19: 18 New
                        +1
                        minusers:
                        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcWYIda9m6E
                      4. gladcu2
                        gladcu2 21 November 2015 05: 37 New
                        0
                        I respect the Canadian and American police. They do the work. Powers do not exceed.
              2. GRAY
                GRAY 20 November 2015 12: 26 New
                +1
                Quote: SectaHaki
                The police were there, and the cops and the feds, and these ..

                You, personally, no one will protect from arbitrariness. If you have a weapon, you can shoot back - then you will be killed.
                Look, be careful there. The list of services entitled to arrest or shoot you is quite large:
                Department of Agriculture:

                ✦ Office of Inspector General
                ✦ United States Forest Service
                - US Forest Service Law Enforcement and Investigations
                Department of Commerce:
                ✦ Bureau of Industry and Security
                - Office of Export Enforcement
                ✦ National Institute of Standards and Technology
                - National Institute of Standards and Technology Police
                ✦ National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration
                - National Marine Fisheries Service
                - National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Fisheries Office for Law Enforcement
                ✦ Department of Commerce Office of Security
                ✦ Department of Commerce Office of Inspector General
                Department of Defense:
                ✦ Office of Inspector General
                - Defense Criminal Investigative Service
                ✦ Pentagon Force Protection Agency
                - United States Pentagon Police
                ✦ Department of Defense Police
                ✦ Defense Logistics Agency Police
                ✦ National Security Agency Police
                ✦ Defense Intelligence Agency Police
                ✦ National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency Police
                ✦ Special Inspector General for Afghanistan Reconstruction
                ✦ Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction
                Department of the Army:
                ✦ United States Army Criminal Investigation Command
                ✦ United States Army Military Police Corps
                ✦ Department of the Army Police
                ✦ United States Army Corrections Command
                ✦ Army Counterintelligence
                Department of the Navy:
                ✦ Naval Criminal Investigative Service
                ✦ United States Marine Corps Criminal Investigation Division
                ✦ Department of the Navy Police (civilian police)
                ✦ Marine Corps Provost Marshal's Office (military police)
                ✦ United States Marine Corps Police (civilian police)
                ✦ US Navy Master-at-arms (military police)
                Department of the Air Force:
                ✦ Air Force Office of Special Investigations
                ✦ Air Force Security Forces Center
                ✦ Air Force Security Forces (military police)
                ✦ Department of the Air Force Police (civilian police)
                Department of Education:
                ✦ Office of the Inspector General
                Department of Energy:
                ✦ Office of Inspector General
                ✦ Office of Health, Safety and Security
                ✦ Office of Secure Transportation
                Department of Health and Human Services:
                ✦ United States Food and Drug Administration
                - Office of Criminal Investigations
                ✦ National Institutes of Health
                - National Institutes of Health Police
                ✦ Office of Inspector General
                Department of Homeland Security:
                ✦ Federal Law Enforcement Training Center
                ✦ National Protection and Programs Directorate
                - Federal Protective Service
                ✦ United States Coast Guard
                - Coast Guard Investigative Service
                ✦ United States Customs and Border Protection
                - Office of Air and Marine
                - Office of Border Patrol
                - Office of Field Operations
                ✦ United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement
                - Enforcement Removal Operations
                - Homeland Security Investigations
                - Office of Intelligence
                - Office of Professional Responsibility
                ✦ United States Citizenship and Immigration Services
                ✦ United States Secret Service
                ✦ Transportation Security Administration
                - Office of Law Enforcement / Federal Air Marshal Service
                - Office of Inspection
                1. GRAY
                  GRAY 20 November 2015 12: 27 New
                  0
                  [quote] ✦ Department of Homeland Security Office of Inspector General
                  Department of Housing and Urban Development:
                  ✦ Office of Inspector General
                  ✦ Protective Service Division
                  Department of the Interior:
                  ✦ Bureau of Indian Affairs
                  - Bureau of Indian Affairs Police
                  ✦ Bureau of Land Management
                  - Bureau of Land Management Office of Law Enforcement
                  ✦ Bureau of Reclamation
                  - Bureau of Reclamation Office of Law Enforcement
                  - Hoover Dam Police aka Bureau of Reclamation Police
                  ✦ National Park Service
                  - Division of Law Enforcement, Security and Emergency Services
                  - United States Park Police
                  ✦ Office of Inspector General
                  ✦ Office of Surface Mining Reclamation and Enforcement
                  ✦ United States Fish and Wildlife Service
                  - Office of Law Enforcement
                  - Division of Refuge Law Enforcement
                  Department of Justice:
                  ✦ Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives
                  ✦ United States Drug Enforcement Administration
                  ✦ Federal Bureau of Investigation
                  - Federal Bureau of Investigation Police
                  ✦ Federal Bureau of Prisons
                  ✦ Office of Inspector General
                  ✦ United States Marshals Service
                  Department of Labor:
                  ✦ Office of Inspector General
                  Department of State:
                  ✦ Bureau of Diplomatic Security
                  - US Diplomatic Security Service
                  - Office of Foreign Missions
                  ✦ Office of the Inspector General of the Department of State
                  Department of Transportation:
                  ✦ Federal Aviation Administration
                  ✦ Office of Inspector General
                  ✦ United States Merchant Marine Academy Department of Public Safety
                  ✦ Office of Odometer Fraud Investigation - NHTSA
                  Department of the Treasury, a Bureau of Engraving and Printing Police:
                  ✦ Alcohol and Tobacco Tax and Trade Bureau
                  ✦ Bureau of Engraving and Printing
                  - Bureau of Engraving and Printing Police
                  ✦ Financial Crimes Enforcement Network
                  ✦ Internal Revenue Service Criminal Investigation Division
                  ✦ Office of Inspector General
                  ✦ Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration
                  ✦ United States Mint Police
                  ✦ Special Inspector General for the Troubled Asset Relief Program
                  Department of Veterans Affairs:
                  ✦ Office of Inspector General
                  ✦ Veterans Affairs Police
                  Legislative Branch:
                  ✦ Library of Congress, Office of Security and Emergency Preparedness
                  ✦ Sergeant at Arms of the United States House of Representatives
                  ✦ Sergeant at Arms of the United States Senate
                  ✦ United States Capitol Police
                  ✦ United States Government Printing Office Police
                  ✦ Office of Inspector General, United States Government Printing Office
                  Judicial Branch:
                  ✦ Marshal of the United States Supreme Court
                  - United States Supreme Court Police
                  ✦ Administrative Office of the United States Courts
                  1. GRAY
                    GRAY 20 November 2015 12: 27 New
                    0
                    Other federal law enforcement agencies, Independent Agencies and Quasi-official Corporations:
                    ✦ Central Intelligence Agency Security Protective Service
                    ✦ United States Environmental Protection Agency
                    - Criminal Investigation Division
                    - Office of Inspector General
                    ✦ National Aeronautics and Space Administration
                    - Office of Inspector General
                    - NASA Protective Services
                    ✦ Nuclear Regulatory Commission, Office of Inspector General
                    ✦ Office of Personnel Management, Office of Inspector General
                    ✦ Railroad Retirement Board, Office of Inspector General
                    ✦ Small Business Administration, Office of Inspector General
                    ✦ Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, Office of Inspector General
                    ✦ General Services Administration, Office of Inspector General
                    ✦ Social Security Administration Office of Inspector General
                    ✦ United States Postal Service
                    - USPS Office of Inspector General
                    - United States Postal Inspection Service
                    - US Postal Police
                    ✦ Smithsonian Institution
                    - Office of Protection Services
                    - National Zoological Park Police
                    - Office of the Inspector General
                    ✦ Amtrak
                    - Amtrak Office of Inspector General
                    - Amtrak Office of Security Strategy and Special Operations
                    - Amtrak Police
                    ✦ Federal Reserve Bank: Federal Reserve Police
                    ✦ Tennessee Valley Authority Office of Inspector General
                    ✦ United States Agency for International Development, Office of Inspector General [/ quote]
                  2. Secta
                    Secta haki 20 November 2015 12: 56 New
                    -7
                    In the USSR, too, it was full of VOKhRs, which went in front of the Central Committee on a string (unlike foresters, at their fence).

                    If any of the employees of these listed American departments would threaten civil rights and freedoms, then any American has the right to shoot them for these unconstitutional actions. laughing If citizens do not have such an opportunity due to inequality of forces, the National Guard will come (which is all recruited from the local) and roll the “aliens” into the pancake with tanks, without even shooting ...
                    Citizens who run away with the police will be caught later, and they will be tried by local elected judges, with the exception of federal cases - this will be judged by a federal judge and "somewhere far away" that the locals do not choose, and bad boys from "American Lubyanka" will be there space for abuse. But if they are legitimately shot “at execution”, then they will simply be shot ... and the issue of the legality of this will be decided by the local elected judge. Which is not a freemason. smile
                  3. Down House
                    Down House 20 November 2015 14: 27 New
                    +2
                    Quote: SectaHaki
                    In the USSR, too, was full of WOHRs,

                    And who usually never climbed over the fence of the guarded object.
                  4. Secta
                    Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 29 New
                    -1
                    It was written there. For the rest, what are the objections?
                  5. gladcu2
                    gladcu2 21 November 2015 05: 40 New
                    0
                    Vohr. Are you laughing This is a pensioner with a gun. Salary 60 rubles. Staff turnover.
                    The ordinary watchman.
                  6. Secta
                    Secta haki 21 November 2015 05: 48 New
                    +1
                    Maybe with rubber reel? And is the rifle or reed rifle the same?
                    This is a revolver that is reliable, immune to misfires, ready for immediate firing, and therefore it is preferred by American police officers to a gun.
              3. sssla
                sssla 21 November 2015 00: 57 New
                0
                Quote: SectaHaki
                full of WOHRs that walked in front of the Central Committee

                It feels like I was in the 70-80s
  • Misha Honest
    Misha Honest 20 November 2015 12: 39 New
    -9
    Quote: GRAY
    Worse than in fascist America? Truth?

    Just the other day, a friend told the following story: right at the entrance to the house, two policemen stopped him and after a short conversation they took him to the police station, there he was stripped to his underwear and into a monkey (in which it was terribly cold) saying: you will find a certain amount of several thousand dollars. e. - let go, you won’t find - we’ll hang the case, you’ll sit. As a result, he had to urgently seek and give money. Only then released.
    Here are such things ... But for some reason we are discussing the pros and cons of amers when such "personalities" serve in the Russian police. recourse
    1. Secta
      Secta haki 20 November 2015 13: 09 New
      +3
      they probably found a sucker - in such a situation they simply call the lawyer, the local or federal government agency, or the judge and explain the police "as is."
      1. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 20 November 2015 13: 23 New
        -2
        Quote: SectaHaki
        in such a situation, they just call the lawyer

        He was very scared. And who will give him a call? The mobile phone, along with all things, was taken away - only cowards and a sweater were left ...
        Quote: SectaHaki
        to the local or federal government, go to the judge and explain the requirements of the police “as is”.

        Firstly, it’s not a fact that local “authorities” will at least somehow react, even if they believe in this story (he has no evidence). And secondly, where is the guarantee that the local "authorities" are not in the balance (and I personally have such a suspicion) ...
        1. Secta
          Secta haki 20 November 2015 13: 29 New
          +1
          let him call now ... how did he look for money?
          they should not believe, but they must check, and he is not obliged to prove, but the prosecutor and the like
          let him turn not to local, but at least to human rights defenders ...

          if the police certainly have no strong compromising materials on him, which makes it easier and better to remain silent.
          1. Misha Honest
            Misha Honest 20 November 2015 13: 41 New
            -4
            Quote: SectaHaki
            let him call now ...

            They promised not pleasant consequences for him personally in the future - if he blunders too much. In general, he is afraid.
            Quote: SectaHaki
            But how did he look for money?

            These “personalities” called their relatives, and they already collected by relatives and acquaintances.
            Quote: SectaHaki
            they should not believe, but they must check, and he is not obliged to prove, but the prosecutor and the like
            let him turn not to local

            You are naive. It is unlikely that local bureaucrats will even scratch their heads - who wants to raise a bee hive, especially if it also brings honey.

            1. Secta
              Secta haki 20 November 2015 13: 47 New
              0
              Well, let him tell about it too ... Or let him be “afraid”.

              Let it not the locals itch. Yes, even from across the ocean (therefore, usually those above the local ones do itch).
            2. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 20 November 2015 13: 54 New
              0
              Quote: SectaHaki
              Or let it be "afraid."

              So he is afraid. Says they say - drove through, it’s good that at least I got off like that. sad
            3. Secta
              Secta haki 20 November 2015 13: 56 New
              0
              And the second approach will not be the same, or the same?
            4. Misha Honest
              Misha Honest 20 November 2015 14: 00 New
              0
              Quote: SectaHaki
              And the second approach will not be the same, or the same?

              Who knows...
            5. Secta
              Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 03 New
              0
              Why wouldn’t he approach them with his witnesses, relatives and a support group?
            6. Nosgoth
              Nosgoth 21 November 2015 18: 05 New
              -1
              Looks like the stigma was "in the gun." What he kept silent about, building from the seed of Christ on the cross.
  • corporal
    corporal 21 November 2015 05: 26 New
    +1
    Quote: Misha Honest
    They promised not pleasant consequences for him personally in the future - if he blunders too much. In general, he is afraid.

    Stop talking nonsense. This is not the "Echo of Moscow"
  • Secta
    Secta haki 21 November 2015 05: 56 New
    +1
    In general, it happens, but usually with those who do not like this radio station ... Then there is practically no one to complain about lawlessness.
  • Misha Honest
    Misha Honest 21 November 2015 12: 58 New
    +1
    What an echo ?! I hate this trash! corporal, at least you are not lazy, but look at my profile - I'm a Stalinist monarchist by conviction. PPC people, only because I said that the guy is a good person, and specifically these two policemen - essentially gangsters, and not law enforcement officers - let all the dogs down on me!
  • Misha Honest
    Misha Honest 20 November 2015 13: 49 New
    -3
    Quote: SectaHaki
    if the police certainly have no strong compromising materials on him, which makes it easier and better to remain silent.

    I don’t know if they have anything on him. As far as I know, it’s like a good guy. The problem is that hanging an unresolved case on an innocent is a fairly common practice in Russia. And what’s most interesting is that nobody cares and no one will be surprised by this.
    1. Secta
      Secta haki 20 November 2015 13: 53 New
      0
      and you can still plant it, lower it there and never see the age of freedom ... only for some reason this is not with everyone.
    2. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 20 November 2015 13: 58 New
      0
      Quote: SectaHaki
      and you can still plant it, lower it there and never see the age of freedom ... only for some reason this is not with everyone.

      Although this probably happens in the states, huh?
    3. Secta
      Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 02 New
      0
      In any significant quantities - if only recently.
  • Down House
    Down House 20 November 2015 14: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: SectaHaki
    probably sucker found

    Most likely found a drug or something else.
    How can I “hang” something on a law-abiding and previously not convicted person with an alibi, family, permanent job and “characterization” I don’t understand at all!
    1. Secta
      Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 44 New
      -2
      You can’t - ask someone else ...
  • Down House
    Down House 20 November 2015 14: 33 New
    +7
    Quote: Misha Honest
    These are the things

    Here you are lying, you feel godless, or your friend is hiding something - maybe he had drugs with him or something else, but now he just excuses himself?
    Because there are no fools in the police, to sit out of the blue for a couple of thousand for a couple of years.
    1. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 20 November 2015 15: 05 New
      -3
      Quote: Down House
      Here you are lying, you feel godless, or your friend is hiding something - maybe he had drugs with him or something else, but now he just excuses himself?

      I just retold the story from the words of a friend - no more. What about hiding - not hiding I do not know, but the guy, it seems, is not bad.
      Quote: Down House
      Because there are no fools in the police, to sit out of the blue for a couple of thousand for a couple of years.

      Not a couple, but ten thousand greenbacks.

      On my own behalf, I can add that in our city there were already several corruption scandals involving both police officers and their leadership, and the head of the district prosecutor's office and his deputies (although many were simply hushed up). By the way, the heads of the prosecutor's office change steadily every two years due to bribes. winked
      Conclusions, as they say, do it yourself ...
      1. Down House
        Down House 20 November 2015 15: 45 New
        +4
        Quote: Misha Honest
        Not a couple, but ten thousand greenbacks.

        Ten thousand greenbacks ?! Per night?! From a man who "scared" PPS ?! belay
        Yes, there are no options at all, either he “drives” and had drugs, or something else, or most likely your friend has “Munichhausen syndrome” - I talked with such people, the traffic police are chasing 10 cars, but in fact, they have neither rights nor cars.
        1. Misha Honest
          Misha Honest 20 November 2015 15: 57 New
          -1
          Quote: Down House
          From a man who "scared" PPS ?!

          As far as I understood, these were not PPS, but opera - in civilian clothes. request
          And the money they received is a fact.
          1. Down House
            Down House 20 November 2015 16: 50 New
            +1
            Quote: Misha Honest
            As far as I understood, these were not PPS, but opera - in civilian clothes.

            As I understand it, the story is "sewn with white thread."
            Although this is from my position and competence, I voiced my position "to hang something on a law-abiding and previously not convicted person with an alibi, family, permanent job and" characterization "is practically unrealistic" - and if he is also $ 10000 a night, "find "maybe even more so," nafig it. "
          2. marshes
            marshes 20 November 2015 17: 02 New
            +1
            Quote: Down House
            As I understand it, the story is "sewn with white thread."

            Often, in order to increase performance, some of the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs go to offenses. There are a lot of schemes, up to a package with a weapon or a drug. Wed before confessing to the murder.
            In the 90s, killers simply dropped their weapons so that they could find something to close the case, hanged on someone. And things quickly closed, here's the trunk "passing nearby." It was just hanged on someone.
          3. Down House
            Down House 20 November 2015 20: 01 New
            +1
            Quote: marshes
            Often, in order to increase performance, some of the employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs go to offenses. There are a lot of schemes, up to a package with a weapon or a drug. Wed before confessing to the murder.

            And often, the scale of such acts is exaggerated, but we probably have 95% of the prisons in their own words, “for no reason”.
          4. marshes
            marshes 20 November 2015 20: 13 New
            +1
            Quote: Down House
            And often, the scale of such acts is exaggerated, but we probably have 95% of the prisons in their own words, “for no reason”.

            they sit for something, just a punishment for often harsh. You can do less. There is truth for which you can give more to the flesh to the tower. But ... judges do not understand ... what they say and will give.
            The antibiotic said it was safe to steal wagons, or rather train formulations.
        2. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 21 November 2015 18: 10 New
          0
          Complete nonsense. Nonsense of a person who is not even familiar with operational investigative actions, although not ... probably you studied them on TV shows :-))))
      2. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 20 November 2015 17: 56 New
        0
        I apologize to the people - he said incorrectly - not 10000 bucks, but rubles.
        But this does not alter the fact that the police should not engage in extortion, but put criminals in jail. Real criminals.
        Now I would like a man like Dzerzhinsky at the head of our law enforcement authorities, in order to restore order in the country ...
      3. Down House
        Down House 20 November 2015 20: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Misha Honest
        that the police should not engage in extortion, but should plant criminals. Real criminals.

        The police also plant criminals, and criminals in uniform are also planted.
        And as for Dzerzhinsky, one must at least wait for elementary laws and not have to be afraid of “werewolves” - they run away from 99% of legally literate people.
  • roninas
    roninas 20 November 2015 20: 54 New
    +2
    That was walking straight. And out of the blue, the term "raised" ?? Drive you, young man. In your words, any passer-by can be "closed" Pi ... t your friend
  • Misha Honest
    Misha Honest 20 November 2015 23: 19 New
    -1
    Quote: roninas
    That was walking straight. And out of the blue, the term "raised" ?? Drive you, young man. In your words, any passer-by can be "closed" Pi ... t your friend

    Do you think that is impossible? Then look. Different examples - looked at a vskidka:

    Here are some more different videos: detention and beating.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZyX0y11KSo
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEMuxqWpWjw
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2bkLTRRBFw
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vnm3fAjRv-o
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=53&v=Y4ROPyx2gds
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=82&v=jyMuyR1-G9w
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tv6GZY-UvHU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlcQAHwEZ1g

    Beautiful movies ?!
  • Nosgoth
    Nosgoth 21 November 2015 18: 14 New
    0
    if a person is not a deer, then all the accusations fall apart in a week or two. Now on the Internet, any instructions can be found if your brain is not enough.
  • zeleznijdorojnik
    zeleznijdorojnik 23 November 2015 20: 45 New
    0
    Would go to the department. I recorded the entry time in the duty room - the exit time. I would buy a new ticket, but expired along with a certificate - to the magistrate's court. Money would be returned without question. And so - resisting and the zone for 5 years to really rattle.
  • sssla
    sssla 21 November 2015 01: 02 New
    +2
    Quote: Misha Honest
    Just the other day, a friend told the following story:

    My friend in the police works and says that not everything is so simple. People themselves come to the police and give the money. And some come to the police and voluntarily demand to hang on unsolved crimes.
    1. Secta
      Secta haki 21 November 2015 05: 41 New
      +2
      ... some even with their own bottle of champagne crying
  • Hort
    Hort 20 November 2015 13: 40 New
    0
    I shot the campaign because the guy started to turn up his shirt to show that he had a player there. And the cop thought that he climbed behind the barrel ...
  • 89043515687
    89043515687 21 November 2015 00: 07 New
    0
    They killed for nothing, then they collected a trifle in their pockets, and when the ambulance arrived, they did not even take off the handcuffs from the dead man. Like suddenly turns into a zombie and this villain eats everyone! They have cops there after serving in Iraq, many work for whom the psyche is not to hell. Over the past half year alone, more than 500 people have failed) If that goes, they will soon kill each other there themselves stop So the flag in their hands)
  • Jack-b
    Jack-b 20 November 2015 08: 31 New
    15
    Quote: Corporal
    Article +, although it is far from complete.

    And I minusanul. I do not quite understand why there is an advertisement for the American police here? She's too specific. To find out what to learn from them, you have to delve a lot into the differences in the legal framework of our and their police, in the mentality and in all other aspects.
    The driver is recommended to put his hands on the "ten and two." No sudden movements and attempts to get documents out of your pocket (even worse - delve into the glove compartment).

    So they have almost free possession of weapons. It is clear that the "officer" has reason to be nervous. Why should we adopt such "honed procedures"? In America, the cult of musklars and a lot of good roads for racing, including with the police. In such a situation, ramming on every police car is probably justified. And why is it ours? In short, perhaps out of habit, the work of the American policemen delights, but if you dig deeper, its advantages over our law enforcement officers are IMHO controversial.
    1. Hell's Angel
      Hell's Angel 20 November 2015 09: 54 New
      15
      I wrote here a long time ago (on VO) about the case in Novosibirsk. Two patrolmen approached the subject to check the documents. Result, one 300, the other 200th. Recently, this was repeated in my opinion in Moscow (these are those who then got in Kalmykia). Are you sure that we do not have "practically free possession of weapons"? The article is more about the tactics of the police and their legal protection.
      Have you noticed how many shots the “cop” makes on the criminal in a critical situation? Then try to explain to our prosecutor's office and the court why you sent 8 to 18 rounds of ammunition to the criminal. It seems that our judges and prosecutors are on guard of the life and health of the criminals.
      1. 1234567890
        1234567890 20 November 2015 10: 52 New
        +5
        Quote: angel of hell
        It seems that our judges and prosecutors are on guard of the life and health of criminals.

        They also have "indicators", they also "chop sticks", lumberjacks damn room.
      2. PSih2097
        PSih2097 20 November 2015 12: 45 New
        +2
        Quote: angel of hell
        It seems that our judges and prosecutors are on guard of the life and health of criminals.

        Well, such is our legislation ...
  • sherp2015
    sherp2015 20 November 2015 08: 41 New
    +4
    Quote: Corporal
    Article +, although it is far from complete.


    I agree +! The man tried. I hope someday our DPS nicknames can compete with them in professionalism and courtesy.
    By the way, I was recently in Georgia, and I really liked their policemen for their correctness. Their uniforms and machines are similar to those of the Yankees
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 20 November 2015 08: 49 New
      10
      Quote: sherp2015
      and courtesy.

      Oh yes, politeness is theirs all. Two in the chest, two in the head, and then your corpse will politely read out the rights. Civilization ep.
    2. 1234567890
      1234567890 20 November 2015 10: 55 New
      +2
      Quote: sherp2015
      By the way, I was recently in Georgia, and I really liked their policemen for their correctness. Their uniforms and machines are similar to those of the Yankees

      There is an opinion: there all the delights of the type "one-two-three on the kidneys" already begin in prison, and getting there is easy, just like in a mattress.
  • Santa Fe
    20 November 2015 07: 01 New
    +1
    The machine is equipped with a stupid American V8 engine, which, with a volume of 4,6 l, produces only 250 hp. As you know, the Yankees, unlike the Germans, do not favor afterburner and turbocharging, preferring to save a resource.

    All this fascist homo, BMW Mercedes, full of insignificance against the backdrop of American cars

    A German woman needs to be refueled with AI-98 (in the USA - premium fuel), expensive to operate, each spare part stands as a collection one.

    And why did they survive - according to statistics, the Germans begin to crumble through 3 of the year, already in the lead in breakdowns
    The Passat’s box (2006) fell apart after 60 thousand miles, then it turned out there the whole batch of 2006 g. Has a defect in the box, the probes clapped their ears

    American car
    a) very simple and cheap to operate, how cheap can a foreign car be
    b) refuel with ordinary gasoline

    The result - on the odometer 160 thousand miles, flies like a swallow (Chrysler). Pickup F150 wound 200 +, rides like new. Of the other advantages - they are spacious, comfortable, ergonomic. They have all the necessary amenities. A little rustic inside, but glued solidly - nothing falls off anywhere and does not rattle. The pickup has huge, very comfortable mirrors, the review is super.

    To all lovers of luxury - the Yankees make different cars. There is a simple, like a stool, Ford. There is Karsler (new 300С, 2015 g. - Generally pleased, erysipelas, navigation, sunroof, seat auto-adjustment, healthy as a whale, wheels 19 inches). For aesthetes - there is a Cadillac. Look inside, you will fall. Obviously no worse than a German gelding.

    The legendary "muscle-car" - Chevy Camaro!



    Faceted Diamond - Cadillac CTS Coupe
    and its insides:

    1. inkass_98
      inkass_98 20 November 2015 07: 17 New
      28
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      American car

      Oleg, the eternal battle between fans / lovers of American, German, Japanese cars is endless and meaningless. Who likes pop, some poppies, someone popov’s daughter, or even a pig cartilage.
      About the American I will say one thing - a large volume leads to the same expense. Although torque is a serious and worthy thing, it plays an important role in a police car.
      And I’ll say one thing about the police themselves - there are plenty of fools everywhere, both on the part of citizens and law enforcement officers, what we have, what they have. But ours lacks rights on the one hand, and on the other, they are too unpunished. In Soviet times, the policeman was hope and support, and now they try to stay away from them, since the main task of patrolmen is to make money.
      1. Santa Fe
        20 November 2015 07: 49 New
        -9
        Quote: inkass_98
        Who likes pop, some pops, some pop daughter, or even a pig cartilage

        We have two facts:

        1. The Germans require careful care (premium gasoline expensive s / h)
        2. The Germans are pouring in, as if they were made by AvtoVAZ
        3. Despite the lack of "vaunted German quality", these creatures hold prices as if they were smarter than everyone

        Americans:
        1. Comparably simpler and cheaper to maintain
        2. Reliability - in my personal experience, more reliable than German
        3. Cheaper in any segment

        And what is there to argue about? On equipment - so Cadillac will not yield to Mersey
        Quote: inkass_98
        a large volume leads to the same flow

        German 98 th season (Premium), from the price tag you will fall

        And who said more? Do not take 4 liter what is the problem
        1. Jack-b
          Jack-b 20 November 2015 08: 20 New
          22
          Man, stop offtopic. The site "Military Review", an article about the American police, in discussions srach on cars ... IMHO this is already too much.
          1. Secta
            Secta haki 20 November 2015 09: 35 New
            0
            let it be better unmasked
        2. Down House
          Down House 20 November 2015 14: 59 New
          +2
          Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
          And what is there to argue about?

          That's exactly what is enough to argue and flood, especially since there are statistics of warranty calls and post-warranty repairs - the most reliable cars in the world are Japanese, and the most reliable of Japanese cars are Toyota hybrids, so they really drive hundreds and hundreds of thousands of kilometers without breakdowns and American cars even in America are inferior in sales to Japanese ones - Japanese cars are usually cheaper in price, better equipped and more reliable!
          The American auto industry travels only at state orders, patriots and government subsidies.
          PS. Well, the Germans are really slag, they break even under guarantees, the more brittle are probably only the French and British - even modern Chinese cars break down less often than German fellow
          1. marshes
            marshes 20 November 2015 15: 11 New
            0
            Quote: Down House
            PS. Well, the Germans are really slag, they break even under guarantees, the more brittle are probably only the French and British - even modern Chinese cars break down less often than German

            Damn, car theme.
            I agree with you on 100%.
            Faced with all the auto industry, it’s better that there aren’t anything but it also depends on the years of production. Of course there is a desire to push a fresher product to the market faster, but then there are reviews, this is for all manufacturers.
            But you also need to take into account the place of operation of this or that unit. Some are warmer in the winter and others are less confirmed by overheating in the summer.
            But the French are full of it, traveled Citroen, Peugeot and Renault ...
            1. sovetskyturist
              sovetskyturist 20 November 2015 18: 59 New
              +1
              car theme.
              odnako
              1. marshes
                marshes 20 November 2015 19: 22 New
                0
                Quote: sovetskyturist
                odnako

                On the Chinese can be put.
                If you have Czech, genuine flags, you can talk. How is SKODA FABIA, combi 1.4,50 kW.
                Suspension body, etc. smart but the engine wants the best, in the region of 120-150-cylinder head gasket breaks through, is treated. So Auto is not bad. But in our KZ spare parts are expensive. Even very. But unfortunately, even CHINA does not produce analogues, and this is a minus.
                That's why TOYOTES are popular with us, even China spare parts are issued with a guarantee.
              2. Down House
                Down House 20 November 2015 20: 11 New
                0
                Quote: sovetskyturist
                odnako

                However, this is the Chery Amulet, which is already 100 years old at lunch and which is no longer for sale - modern Chinese are of a completely different quality.
        3. Nekarmadlen
          Nekarmadlen 21 November 2015 01: 52 New
          0
          Oleg is trying to dispel some stereotypes, but to be held captive by others)))) In the Moscow traffic police at the end of the 90 there was a separate special battalion for Ford Crown Victoria (they seemed to be flying Dutch), but somehow these machines did not take root, and the employees were re-trained as escorts VIP persons ... Perhaps it was said that these cars were not officially sold, and the operating costs for fuel turned out to be quite high .... So now instead of the cars specially designed for work in the police, the special battalion rides ordinary Mercedes BMW, as usual DPS collected Rosiii Ford Focus and Renault Logan, well, sometimes even frets vstrechayutsya ....
    2. Jack-b
      Jack-b 20 November 2015 08: 17 New
      +7
      Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
      American car
      a) very simple and cheap to operate, how cheap can a foreign car be
      b) refuel with ordinary gasoline

      Lada even easier and cheaper)))))))
      1. Santa Fe
        20 November 2015 08: 31 New
        -1
        Quote: Jack-B
        Lada is even simpler and cheaper

        You yourself know all the answers about the Lada))
      2. 1234567890
        1234567890 20 November 2015 09: 25 New
        +1
        And UAZ is also stronger.
    3. Hell's Angel
      Hell's Angel 20 November 2015 09: 58 New
      0
      Put a plus. You are right for all 100! Just many of us at the same time and do not like American cars.
    4. sovetskyturist
      sovetskyturist 20 November 2015 18: 57 New
      0
      The car is equipped with the stupid American V8 engine, which, with a volume of 4,6 l, produces only 250 hp. As is known, the Yankees, unlike the Germans, do not favor the afterburner and turbocharging, preferring to save the resource. Not surprisingly, the majority of “Interceptors” have mileage over 100 thousand miles, and this is far from the limit. Beasts.
      160 t.km is a little .... they try to program old age, plus savings on everything. Roads and fuel are also probably different. Now everything is already intertwined so that there are no purebreds
  • marlin1203
    marlin1203 20 November 2015 12: 56 New
    0
    You just need to understand that in the United States the legal storage and carrying of weapons, and not just pistols. Under these conditions, police officers behave accordingly, as there is no guarantee that the detainee will not start firing in all directions. Hence the incidents with shot teenagers who brandish copies of pistols. Nobody wants to die from the cops ...
  • Devildog85
    Devildog85 21 November 2015 01: 30 New
    0
    more than 1000 kills by cops in 1 year
    Every day, at least three people die at the hands of the police in the United States, 111 were killed in March alone. For comparison: in the UK, 52 people have died at the hands of the police since 1900. Such data were published in the report of the law enforcement in the XNUMXst century working group, created by order of US President Barack Obama last December, after a wave of mass protests against police brutality in America.
  • Corporal Valera
    Corporal Valera 20 November 2015 06: 36 New
    10
    At least a little of their rights to our security forces! It’s ridiculous to say: authorities are not protected by the Law!
    1. SSR
      SSR 20 November 2015 08: 51 New
      +8
      Quote: Corporal Valera
      At least a little of their rights to our security forces! It’s ridiculous to say: authorities are not protected by the Law!

      Only now I wonder why their policemen are so nervous when the driver is "messing around"? I wonder why, with all the severity of their police, the US remains the leader in terms of the number of prisoners per capita.
      Personally, I’m ready to agree that our policemen have more rights (I recall a case in the market in Moscow last year), but I would like for other rules to be toughened up in relation to the police (I recall last year’s case in Tatarstan when policemen raped Parnya and in addition and improvised "means").
      Personally, I was faced with police arbitrariness, and the reason was that I just walked past them, led me to the police station, and, with batons, noted that I was all as a three-color camouflage and then, just to justify my actions, they tried to attribute to me the missing sneakers wassat
      In general, if they are at least equipped so that there will be no "dark" places during service, then somewhere something can be resolved.))))
      1. 1234567890
        1234567890 20 November 2015 09: 35 New
        +3
        Quote: SSR
        Personally, I am ready to agree that our policemen need more rights (I recall a case in the market in Moscow last year)

        It wasn’t even a matter of rights; anyway, you won’t be able to shoot in the crowd. They concocted themselves, found where to detain, and even arranged a rally. In short - either they didn’t prepare (by running, on horseback, drafts barely!), Or simply relaxed, as is customary in them in Maaskwe (like, here is all ours, who will tell us what!), Impressively burst in and ran into. They would have detained them sharply, as it should be — no one would have understood anything, if they had then rallied under the windows of the department.
      2. Down House
        Down House 20 November 2015 15: 04 New
        0
        Quote: SSR
        tried to attribute to me the missing sneakers

        Whose sneakers ?! belay
  • alex-cn
    alex-cn 20 November 2015 06: 37 New
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    In my opinion, an overly laudatory article. But judging by the stories of those who were there, the American police, in general, are quite professional.
    Many of their rules should be adopted by ours. In any case, for example, the rule is that the policeman must respond to resistance with weapons of a class higher, to fists with a baton, to a knife up to the gun. Well, they have enough reasonable caution.
    Well, the fact that they have cameras everywhere in the precincts can then be sued for any arbitrariness.
    Only now they have begun to shoot really much a lot. Maybe this is a consequence of the fact that they began to shoot a lot in the USA?
    1. aba
      aba 20 November 2015 06: 48 New
      +9
      In my opinion, an overly laudatory article.

      Exactly! That's what I'm talking about. All this looks somehow strange against the background of the latest events in Fergusen and the turn of the murders of minor teenagers.
      And the fact that our robbinguds do not show respect for the servants of the authorities is partly of the fault and of their own media and completely mediocre films about the "cops and shameful wolves" that are teeming with our television screen.
      1. Heimdall48
        Heimdall48 20 November 2015 09: 49 New
        10
        juvenile teenagers

        You are considering one side of the coin, and the second side - these minor teens were inadequate blacks and the law is not a nanny to cover them.
        In Russia, their counterparts arrange accidents on expensive limousines and they don’t have anything for it, but in the USA they would have been “slapped” a long time ago.
    2. igorka357
      igorka357 20 November 2015 07: 19 New
      28
      An American policeman has the right to shoot a man with a knife that doesn’t even go at him, but just got it, with a single warning! If you put the cop on the ground and ordered you not to breathe, handcuffed, you must not breathe, move your leg, resistance to detention, has the right to use weapons! If it seemed to the American cop that his life or the lives of others was in danger, he has the right to use weapons! When approaching the car of the offender, it is recommended that the cop be unfastened he saw it! As soon as you do not obey the order to get out of the car and begin to carry out any manipulations, the computer’s hand will instantly be on the handle of his service weapon! Too often they are shot there for the cops to take risks! And we ... what here, two gayts put a drunken man in the back seat of his car .. as a result, one corpse .. one seriously wounded .. he cut both sheep as a knife! once! It’s a pity for our cops, we’re yelling that they are kazly, but how what, so mi help, for every month poor fellows unsubscribe !!!
      1. corporal
        corporal 20 November 2015 08: 19 New
        -2
        Quote: igorka357
        If the cop put you on the ground and ordered you not to breathe, handcuffed, you must not breathe, moved your legs, resistance to detention, has the right to use weapons!

        Bust and nonsense.
        Quote: igorka357
        , for each cartridge the poor fellows unsubscribe for a month !!!

        Only 21 days wassat laughing hi
      2. Hell's Angel
        Hell's Angel 20 November 2015 10: 01 New
        +6
        It's just that in the USA, the life and health of a policeman is valued higher than the life and health of a criminal!
    3. Down House
      Down House 20 November 2015 15: 05 New
      0
      Quote: alex-cn
      Well, the fact that they have cameras everywhere in the precincts can then be sued for any arbitrariness.

      Rather, on the contrary, you can then "pee" at this arbitrariness on YouTube, and the police will then be sent a maximum of a couple of months to rest - to correct nerves somewhere in Hawaii.
  • blizart
    blizart 20 November 2015 06: 42 New
    +7
    How many law-abiding Americans do not really know how everything is there, but the image and principles of their system are imprinted in our brains even in our country. Why? Hollywood, sorry for the banality. Russia, as always, responds asymmetrically; your cinema opera is an unshaven specialist, tormented by unnecessary papers, balancing on the verge of law and salary. In short, this product in advance implies domestic consumption, but we then live in this country. Why do we need this “splash"?
  • moskowit
    moskowit 20 November 2015 06: 55 New
    +2
    This behavior and relationship on the roads has been brought up for decades. And then a lot depends on the mentality of people. We Russians are completely different. Give our "traffic cop" undivided power. The driver will not only be "without pants", but also beaten without measure ...
    1. Santa Fe
      20 November 2015 07: 39 New
      +1
      Quote: moskowit
      Give our "traffic cop" undivided power.

      Where did you read about undivided power?

      In the USA, the cop has no right to stop the car / passerby without any reason. "Verification of documents" is not such a basis

      Plot:
      a novice patrolman demands to show documents from a man with a flying drone. He says that he did not break anything and let the cop roll to hell.
      - Who are you?
      - It's not a suspicion of crime.

      Then comes the sergeant - and says that the man is right. He did not break anything. DPS-sheep, apologizing, leaves

      him next: So you learn smth. today, that's good. (You learned, learned today's lesson)
      1. WUA 518
        WUA 518 20 November 2015 07: 48 New
        13
        Compare, they, and ours.
        1. sherp2015
          sherp2015 20 November 2015 09: 01 New
          +4
          Quote: WUA 518
          WUA 518 (1) Today, 07:48 ↑ New
          Compare, they, and ours.



          "a juvenile scorcher is likely to get off with a slight fright and a fine ..."

          Here you have the Russian legislation.
          Laws are written by deputies ...
        2. 1234567890
          1234567890 20 November 2015 09: 10 New
          +4
          This bald man from the second video and according to our stupid law "On Police" can be shot through a jug (by accident). But not the fact that you will unsubscribe later.
        3. 31R-US
          31R-US 20 November 2015 09: 26 New
          +1
          In the emirates, this guard would be stuck with his face on the floor and would rot at best in the jail, or shot on the spot, there even our dodges become educated
      2. Down House
        Down House 20 November 2015 15: 08 New
        0
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        In the USA, the cop has no right to stop the car / passerby without any reason.

        In fact, this is also the case with us.
        Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
        "Verification of documents" is not such a basis

        In fact, we can also check documents only at a stationary traffic police post.
        1. Secta
          Secta haki 20 November 2015 15: 13 New
          +1
          They have the right everywhere if something happened ... to find out if something happened if they were given orientation by walkie-talkie and not paper, alas, it can only be done retroactively (paper should be presented when asking for documents). If you stood there and "earned" yourself, then - they will fly out of service, maybe even sit down.
      3. alicante11
        alicante11 20 November 2015 15: 22 New
        0
        In the USA, the cop has no right to stop the car / passerby without any reason. "Verification of documents" is not such a basis


        I am begging you. You can get to the pillar. For example, to say that you look like a bad image. And to prove that it’s not you, you will be handcuffed. However, ours also sin with this.
        1. Secta
          Secta haki 20 November 2015 15: 28 New
          +1
          He will then show the judge about this photo-robot, if this was not true, then he will not convince of anything, and he will sit down from 2 to 5 years, with subsequent loss of rights.
  • Alex1977RUS
    Alex1977RUS 20 November 2015 07: 16 New
    10
    Well, it doesn’t happen that ALL would be bad. This is nonsense. Even Hitler had very good social programs that are not at all a sin to use. They were simply sent exclusively to the “higher race”, and the rest to concentration camps, to soap ... But the idea is to say “Houses of Life” - free social sanatoriums, with full provision in the best, most beautiful places of the country for pregnant women, during pregnancy, childbirth and the puerperium
    is a great idea. Just racial segregation must be removed from it.
    And no matter how negative trends in the United States last three hundred years))) it’s not a sin to learn many things from them. And to shoot - so the internal tension in society leads to increased aggressiveness. And sharper who are the cops. Naturally, the level of violence is increasing.
    1. sherp2015
      sherp2015 20 November 2015 09: 09 New
      +7
      Quote: Alex1977RUS
      no matter what negative trends in the USA have occurred for the last three hundred years))) it’s not a sin to learn many things from them.


      They will tear the majorities for rudeness f ... pu, and with us money bags can pour mud over anyone or even feces and nothing. free tsuki.
      The legislative system is worthless. I recall how it seems that the deputy Golovlev dragged in the Russian Parliament the law on narcotic substances authorized for storage by the mass seems to 1 gram! ! a gram of heroin could be carried in your pocket! But the Most High subsequently punished this "Judas Golovlev"
      1. Down House
        Down House 20 November 2015 15: 13 New
        0
        Quote: sherp2015
        They will tear the major for rudeness w ... pu

        Tales - their major will hire a “lawyer” and nothing will happen to the major.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 November 2015 07: 32 New
    +8
    Clear, clear instructions and effective methods of the American police

    In the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, clear instructions are also sufficient. Many local reinsurers from the management team. This has been rooted since Soviet times. When for each spent cartridge and hard detention (if this is not provided for by the developed plan), it was necessary to unsubscribe by a small biser.
    1. AndreyS
      AndreyS 20 November 2015 08: 39 New
      +6
      Quote: rotmistr60
      In the Russian Ministry of Internal Affairs, clear instructions are also sufficient. Many local reinsurers from the management team. This has been rooted since Soviet times. When for each spent cartridge and hard detention (if this is not provided for by the developed plan), it was necessary to unsubscribe by a small biser.

      Americans write the same thing. Only our employee has performed such a feint "... What is considered commonplace for Russia will not work overseas. Any bickering of this kind with the American “cop” ends in an unambiguous way. Wham with a baton. And a stun gun to the side. After a couple of minutes, the rumpled and hushed “intruder” is already humbly sitting on the curb in handcuffs ..."he will be accused by prosecutors of exceeding official powers. The same is true with shooting! And the execution of the offense is generally easier to shoot yourself.
      That's why it is the US police state, so that their greatest strength would be protected. In the early 90s in his city he saw the reaction of Americans to police officers: not far from the hotel there were two officers on the sidewalk, since the sidewalk is not wide, our citizens calmly passed employees very close, without any problems, but then the Americans approached and their reaction interested me - when they saw the employees, they stopped three meters away from them, then turned around and crossed the road at the pedestrian crossing to the other side, at the next crossing they returned to the side where the employees stood and went to the hotel. I was shocked, not really so afraid. But it turned out that the American police have a security zone in which citizens should not get into without any special reason, as tough actions will follow, since being in this zone is equivalent to an attack on a police officer.
      Well, something like this!
      1. Santa Fe
        20 November 2015 08: 50 New
        -2
        Quote: AndreyS
        American policemen have a security zone in which citizens should not get into without any special reason, since tough actions will follow, since being in this zone is equivalent to an attack on a police officer.

        Obviously bike
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 20 November 2015 09: 29 New
          +3
          = SWEET_SIXTEEN] Obviously bike [/ quote]
          No, unfortunately, even ordinary Americans have such a concept as personal space, and it would not be comme il faut to invade it. Once an American asked me why in Moscow there were police with assault rifles, I laughed it off so that the gun would not be taken away. He did not appreciate my joke of humor, and thoughtfully said:
          -I have in Chicago, if you see a cop with a gun, it means that a serious mess will soon begin.
        2. hohryakov066
          hohryakov066 20 November 2015 09: 50 New
          +8
          Well no. At the indicated time, I personally saw and appeared in the Central Internal Affairs Directorate of Yekaterinburg the following scene: In the building of the Central Internal Affairs Directorate for several days there was an exhibition of special equipment of some state. This exhibition was accompanied by Amerovsky policy. In Russian, he spoke approximately like I did in English, but somehow we could communicate. One thing I couldn’t explain to him in any language - how could it happen that on the street around the corner to the acting major in uniform, a shoulder strap and tie were torn off, and in response he could only twist one and drag it into the police department building. Amer had one question, but the main one: "Why didn’t he shoot them?" The stories that there were more of them, and the major and the witnesses were not there and the gun in the armory simply did not reach the cop’s consciousness and, smiling with a guilty smile, all referred to poor knowledge of the language.
          1. Secta
            Secta haki 20 November 2015 10: 37 New
            -3
            Did he say “shot dead” or just “shot”? And on it a “shot” is to take a photo ... With English you are really bad, and everyone “thinks” according to what is inside of himself ...
            1. Nosgoth
              Nosgoth 21 November 2015 18: 25 New
              0
              "poke" is from bad manners.
      2. alexbg2
        alexbg2 20 November 2015 09: 24 New
        -7
        Quote: AndreyS
        That's why the US police state, so that their greatest strength would be protected

        The picture is outdated for several years, but still ...
        1. 1234567890
          1234567890 20 November 2015 11: 11 New
          +5
          How did the USA count 2,7 cops per 1000 population? apparently only municipalities were taken into account? And the state police and the federals (dozens of law enforcement agencies, in almost every federal ministry)? Let's count everyone. In other countries, where there are few of them - about the same picture.
          And if clerks in uniform and fat ... puff generals are taken out of our 9,7, how many "diggers" will remain?
          1. PSih2097
            PSih2097 20 November 2015 13: 00 New
            0
            Quote: 1234567890
            federals (dozens of law enforcement agencies, in almost every federal ministry)?

          2. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 20 November 2015 14: 04 New
            0
            Quote: 1234567890
            And if clerks in uniform and fat ... puff generals are taken out of our 9,7, how many "diggers" will remain?

            I have such a suspicion that we also recorded “funny troops” in these “9,7”.
        2. psiho117
          psiho117 20 November 2015 13: 40 New
          +3
          Quote: alexbg2

          Nonsense. This is how 2,7 cops in America counted?
          and where is the 500 National Guard?
          Where are the 225 Department of Homeland Security staff?
          Where are the FBI, the ATF, the bureau for the fight against drugs, illegal immigrants, the Marshals, and half a hundred more of these services?
          That's when they are all considered - then it turns out that not 2,7 but 27 ...
    2. AUL
      AUL 20 November 2015 08: 55 New
      -2
      And they do not unsubscribe for torture in police stations? For the protection of bandits and drug dealers? There are no clear instructions for this in the Ministry of Internal Affairs?
      1. hohryakov066
        hohryakov066 20 November 2015 09: 52 New
        +1
        What? Torture victim? Or did you watch TV?
      2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 20 November 2015 10: 38 New
        0
        and the oral reporting to the chief does not count? smile
        1. Secta
          Secta haki 20 November 2015 10: 45 New
          -3
          and in your pocket - the main thing is not to confuse banknotes with drugs.
    3. 1234567890
      1234567890 20 November 2015 09: 18 New
      +6
      Yes? Is this a clear statement: "an attack that is dangerous to life and health"? For example, a policeman on the street in a specific situation perceives the threat in his own way and shoots, and the prosecutor and the judge in warm offices interpret everything differently, and if he shoots someone wrong, it’s completely different. And our policeman goes to Nizhny Tagil.
  • Izotovp
    Izotovp 20 November 2015 07: 57 New
    0
    To imagine such a thing in America: the actionist Pavlensky set fire to the door of the FSB.
    1. corporal
      corporal 20 November 2015 08: 48 New
      0
      From hooliganism to terrorism. From a year to 30-40-60. Now I don’t remember the border.
      At home, they do not flicker. So it would be the same for us, without looking back, so to speak, on the cryoprotectants.
    2. Max otto
      Max otto 20 November 2015 08: 51 New
      +2
      Quote: Izotovp
      To imagine such a thing in America: the actionist Pavlensky set fire to the door of the FSB.

      Was it not the year before last that one comrade went into the office of the CIA (or another office, but not at all in the nursery, I don’t remember exactly) with a shotgun and put down 6-12 people? And not on the first floor, but as far as the fourth.
      1. Izotovp
        Izotovp 20 November 2015 09: 58 New
        0
        I agree that this happens, but Pavlensky will get just a fine here ...
    3. Uncle VasyaSayapin
      Uncle VasyaSayapin 20 November 2015 11: 48 New
      +1
      It is unlikely that the US officially has a “FSB door”
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 20 November 2015 14: 12 New
        0
        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
        It is unlikely that the US officially has a “FSB door”

        There are FBI field offices - as many as 56 pieces. And it is very likely that they still have doors ("Pants of Aragorn", yes ...).

        However, the activist can still try to do something with the door of one of the agencies or departments that are part of the structure of the WB. There, 146% of them hang terrorism on it. smile
        1. Secta
          Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 18 New
          0
          One in 1997, not only with the door, but with the whole office tried it - it turned out ... Most Americans examined his act, many even openly justify it, and no one dares to put them for it yet. laughing
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 20 November 2015 19: 30 New
            -1
            Quote: SectaHaki
            One in 1997, not only with the door, but with the whole office tried it - it turned out ...

            Yeah ... and earned a VMN. Moreover, they proved that this was his doing, quite quickly - according to the part number of the car with the bomb found at the scene of the attack.
            Moreover - this is 1997. There was no hysteria on September 9 and the monster of the Ministry of National Security.
            Quote: SectaHaki
            Most Americans appreciated his act, many even openly justify, and no one dares to put them for it yet.

            Thought crime is not punishable. For now... smile
            1. Secta
              Secta haki 20 November 2015 20: 19 New
              +2
              So I didn’t really notice the tracks ... It will be punishable - cars like the monsters' offices in the country will end quickly, and having managed to run away from them, they will put on foil hats themselves, or give in to the European Union to transfer the FEMA experience to fight “refugees”.
              1. Alexey RA
                Alexey RA 21 November 2015 14: 15 New
                0
                Quote: SectaHaki
                So I didn’t really notice the tracks ...

                Duc ... McVey was taken altogether an hour and a half after the explosion - for driving without numbers and carrying illegal weapons. Plus, he also threw a gun shop card in the police car saying “you need more TNT.” smile

                However, even without all this he could not leave. As it suddenly turned out, in the US there are databases for almost everything. Even on the numbers of the semi-axles for cars. Number -> car -> rental agency -> image robot - and the system went to work.

                Now even a photobot is not required - cameras everywhere.
                1. Secta
                  Secta haki 21 November 2015 15: 00 New
                  +1
                  Not everything is so bad ...
        2. Nosgoth
          Nosgoth 21 November 2015 18: 30 New
          -1
          “Bleed” your sense of humor. The man jokingly pointed out the inaccuracy, and some of the "signs" immediately climbed up with educational program laughing
  • McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 20 November 2015 08: 13 New
    +1
    What is the argument about? Look at YouTube about DPS and PPS. After certification, nothing has changed. Ordinary citizens sometimes know better laws than policemen
    1. hohryakov066
      hohryakov066 20 November 2015 09: 55 New
      +8
      All certification with re-certification and renaming was started in order to remove initiative and competent workers from the police. Leave, of course, executive licking. The result is in statistics. There could be no other!
  • Agrippa
    Agrippa 20 November 2015 08: 20 New
    +4
    In the states, there is case law, and in our country, legal norms are enshrined in administrative, criminal codes, and the police law. The damage caused during the detention of a suspect in a crime should be minimal. For 24 years of service in the PSB, he shot only at the shooting range, although he spent half of the service on the street.
    1. 1234567890
      1234567890 20 November 2015 09: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Agrippa
      For 24 years of service in the PSB, he shot only at the shooting range, although he spent half of the service on the street.

      Yes, there have always been cases where you want it and the law allows you to shoot, but on the other hand, hell knows how the prosecutor will look at it and unsubscribe, so well, see him in FIG. For 24 years?
    2. corporal
      corporal 20 November 2015 09: 56 New
      0
      Hi colleague hi
      Quote: Agrippa
      The damage caused during the detention of a suspect in a crime should be minimal.

      "By God, he aimed at his knee! Why he hit his forehead- request " repeat
      1. Bruss
        Bruss 20 November 2015 13: 34 New
        -1
        It only works when using a weapon to stop the vehicle, by damaging it! If you hit the driver, you cannot be held responsible! Although ...
    3. Bruss
      Bruss 20 November 2015 13: 32 New
      +1
      Caused harm must be less than prevented!
      1. Nosgoth
        Nosgoth 21 November 2015 18: 34 New
        0
        And the surviving criminal will say "did not want to do harm," and the employee, under the joyful smile of the prosecutor, will go on vacation ...
  • press officer
    press officer 20 November 2015 08: 25 New
    +6
    Quote: SWEET_SIXTEEN
    To all lovers of luxury - the Yankees make different cars. There is a simple, like a stool, Ford. There is Karsler (new 300С, 2015 g. - Generally pleased, erysipelas, navigation, sunroof, seat auto-adjustment, healthy as a whale, wheels 19 inches). For aesthetes - there is a Cadillac. Look inside, you will fall. Obviously no worse than a German gelding.


    Fell already! Who however compares with what!
    I .. especially "pleased" negative my last "handsome American" Dodge Caliber 08 years (2 households) .. strewed like our most crap Lada! V8 and 155 l / s did not get along together at all in any way, coupled with front-wheel drive and a weight of almost two tons, the muzzle is heavier than the rear! Apart from dead acceleration from 11 sec. and slipping on only the snow that fell, skidding (at 40 km \ h) with a roll (this is apparently the norm for them!), getting stuck wherever possible, terrible slowness, freezing completely at -26 degrees! And eat benzene AI 95 (12l per 100km. In the city) !!!! There was no talk about any other benz (indicated in the passport)! he also had the main stupid Amerov’s disease .. the car stalled while driving and the steering wheel and brakes were immediately blocked .. Tough! I managed to scare a couple of beautiful cars and their owners .. when everything is cut down at the corner and you continue to drive on ... as you drove, without even being able to slow down ... Such a. negative I have not met! And all would be nothing, like "a woman driving .." stop BUT 20 years of experience without a single accident give me the advantage to argue about this. They tried to treat the whole world .. The disease is not treated. She is incurable. negative So to talk about amerovskih "super" machines, at least stupid! In all cars there are jambs! So I don’t see any reason to pray! There are the simplest ones, but excellent ones, but there are expensive ones (VIP class) where, apart from beauty, there is nothing more!

    And our policemen lack the rights that they could apply to violators! With amers, a bad example, and all is well, brave guys \ will break everyone \ catch up and bang .. because they were scared .. and they are afraid of everything in the world .. negative The last example is chasing a father, and they shot his child .. crying
    1. Santa Fe
      20 November 2015 08: 42 New
      +1
      Quote: press attache
      my last "handsome American" Dodge Caliber 08 of the year (2 households) .. strewed like our most crap Lada!

      I also paid for it, as for a new BMW laughing

      Quote: press attache
      V8 and 155 l \ s did not get along together at all

      V8 ???

      Have a little "Caliber" ???

      (the answer is that there are no more than four cylinders, in any version. And you probably had a two-liter in general)
      Quote: press attache
      And eat benz Benz AI 95

      But not 98!
      Quote: press attache
      he also had the main stupid Amerov’s disease .. the car stalled while driving and the steering wheel and brakes were immediately blocked

      "Caliber", in general, a successful car
      unless a drowned man from an insurance auction
    2. Down House
      Down House 20 November 2015 15: 24 New
      0
      Quote: press attache
      And eat benzene AI 95 (12l per 100km. In the city) !!!! There was no talk about any other benz (indicated in the passport)!

      "95" is the same according to their method of measuring OCh, according to our 92, actually.
      In general, 92 theoretically can be poured into any electronically controlled ICE car - electric injection and a knock sensor will fix everything, but in the range of the "maximum moment" (usually from 3000 rpm) there will be a loss of power due to a slightly smaller injection
  • kalibr
    kalibr 20 November 2015 08: 31 New
    +4
    I have a friend - a former teacher, he left for the USA and has been working in the municipality of New York for many years. Somehow I went to work from lunch. He was stopped by the police, put a “face” on the hood, read the rights, handcuffed and in the police station. He did not have time to blink an eye! They found out for a long time who he was, where he was then, but they were very polite and drank coffee. And then they apologized and drove to the service, as if by the way saying that while he was sitting here they killed a man very similar to him, who, according to their data (and television cameras!), Was killed as a serial killer. Very surprised: "You are so similar!" Then he came to himself two days later looking at "his" corpse in the news! By the way, according to statistics, an American cop takes out a gun once every 7 years for service and once every 17 years he uses it! That is, it is very rare!
    1. Santa Fe
      20 November 2015 08: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: kalibr
      He was stopped by the police, put a “face” on the hood, read the rights, handcuffed and in the police station. He did not have time to blink an eye! They found out for a long time who he was, where he was then, but they were very polite and drank coffee. And then they apologized and taken to the service, as if by the way saying that while he was sitting there they they killed a man very similar to him, who goes through their data (and television cameras!) as a serial killer.

      Those. they still had a good reason, they suspected him of something
  • Belousov
    Belousov 20 November 2015 08: 51 New
    +8
    Our police are too disenfranchised, which causes a mess in everyday life, not a desire to take responsibility and so on. Unfortunately, our state does not need a normal independent police, our state only needs protection from its own citizens.
  • hrenq
    hrenq 20 November 2015 09: 10 New
    -8
    One of the few things that is good in the USA is the work of their cops. These guys really work out their salaries, not that our trash
    1. atakan
      atakan 20 November 2015 09: 32 New
      +5
      I don’t know how “your trash” and in my city, the cops aren’t messy.
      And quite polite.
    2. alexej123
      alexej123 20 November 2015 10: 31 New
      +2
      And what exactly did you do to make the “trash” less? Squeal from the corners of every town. As it comes to business, they only know how to scream, valuers, damn it. Then go and take away the bread-bakings of this everyday life "trash", go to the USA then, where the cops are "handsome", where they can be left alone for years without trial. Ehkspert Mlyn.
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    4. 1234567890
      1234567890 20 November 2015 11: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: hrenq
      not that our trash

      Another victim of the bloody regime that drew something? If not, then with such views everything is ahead.
      1. Secta
        Secta haki 20 November 2015 12: 00 New
        -1
        Interestingly, the prosecutor's office and human rights activists gave this their assessment, starting directly with the headline (suspect) and the behavior of the announcer?
        it is clear that no one was going to take a Russian peasant who was "got" (or maybe another peasant) alive with the court’s sanction ...
        1. Cthulhu
          Cthulhu 20 November 2015 13: 25 New
          0
          Quote: SectaHaki
          Interestingly, the prosecutor's office and human rights activists gave this their assessment, starting directly with the headline (suspect) and the behavior of the announcer?


          And what did you mean by that? What should human rights defenders evaluate? What is the crime in the behavior of the announcer? What kind of court sanction, in general? What are the actions of law enforcement officers unlawful? Well, about the Russian peasant, who "got" - generally a masterpiece good . For an attempt to write about arbitrariness, a completely unsuccessful example was selected (to put it mildly). I do not like to give sharp assessments, but you rave about the cutest.
          1. Secta
            Secta haki 20 November 2015 13: 33 New
            -1
            if they themselves do not understand, then explaining is useless.

            put on an empty head on bully mold from where? from which sandbox, where do the same ones play?
            1. Cthulhu
              Cthulhu 20 November 2015 14: 23 New
              +2
              Quote: SectaHaki
              if they themselves do not understand, then explaining is useless.

              put on an empty head on bully mold from where? from which sandbox, where do the same ones play?


              Are you by any chance Michael Bloom? With Russian you are not good, and with Russian jokes it’s really a disaster. For you, the meaning of Russian jokes is clearly not comprehensible. So for the future (let him hear ears). The child on the profile picture, puts a hand to his head on which a uniform (cap of military standard) headgear. Thus, the child at the celebration of May 9 pays homage and respect to the veterans of the Great Patriotic War and the dead soldiers of the USSR in this war. Therefore, this photo is on my profile picture, as the act of this child and his upbringing inspire respect from me. Good advice, be careful with similar jokes on Russian-language sites, you can run into rudeness.
              And finally. When the troll has nothing to say in essence, he tries to ridiculously joke. I would recommend that you have a little knowledge of the legal framework before trying to give legal assessments to this video from YouTube. But exceptional, they are so exceptional ... joke on, do not forget about Google hi
              1. Secta
                Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 35 New
                0
                by chance no, but I already understand the break

                only the cadets are allowed to wear a military uniform of a valid standard

                I would recommend you go to the forest, even if you are bored ...
                1. marshes
                  marshes 20 November 2015 14: 54 New
                  0
                  Quote: SectaHaki
                  only the cadets are allowed to wear a military uniform of a valid standard

                  I was a cadet and so on ...
                  In the 80s, "was young" laughing I wore a uniform, cap-green shirt with pagons and so on. even a maskhalat was, everything was sewn up for a 6-8 year old child, even a soldier’s belt with a PM holster, plus an officer’s tablet was for the “warriors”. And no one was indignant, though the local district police father made a remark about the ramrod in the cabaret and so no ... smile
                  Somehow, people don’t bother about the military uniform. Now I’ll dig up the garden, I’m putting on a ball and kirzachi with footcloths ... laughing
                  1. Secta
                    Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 58 New
                    0
                    This is a garden, and in most other countries you will be imprisoned for wearing even one part of a military uniform.
                    1. marshes
                      marshes 20 November 2015 15: 21 New
                      0
                      Quote: SectaHaki
                      This is a garden, and in most other countries you will be imprisoned for wearing even one part of a military uniform.

                      So, it happened that he was a guest in the United States, the benefit of a newly-minted relative from law enforcement agencies. They went hunting, he suggested that I wear cartoons, and then give it to him with shoes. And from there I brought a lump, I liked the tiger color and thermal underwear. there I didn’t feel the ban on clothing. There you can buy a CA parade. laughing
                      1. Secta
                        Secta haki 20 November 2015 15: 25 New
                        0
                        try to put on the Morpehov’s formal trousers there (not being a veteran, to be sure) and walk down the street in them ...
                      2. marshes
                        marshes 20 November 2015 15: 37 New
                        0
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        try to put on the Morpehov’s formal trousers there (not being a veteran, to be sure) and walk down the street in them ...

                        And on fig? Their field shape is not bad.
                        Yes, before, we saw grandfathers in lame and PS but without pagon. They all went to another world. My deceased grandfather walked in Stalin until she fell apart. There was nothing to put on.
                        By the way, I have an old lump and a beret with a pitchfork, Ukraine, a gift from a cousin. smile
                      3. Secta
                        Secta haki 20 November 2015 15: 41 New
                        0
                        And in order to clarify faster ... Grandfathers probably had or have the right to do so.
                      4. marshes
                        marshes 20 November 2015 15: 53 New
                        0
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        And in order to clarify faster ... Grandfathers probably had or have the right to do so.

                        Well, the participants of the Second World War do not smell, it remains of security. And so the former Armed Forces, one under the floor, the other major.
                        My father has the same thing but does not wear the same laughing And the overcoat cuts make my eyes callous, a smart coat would have worked. And there is fur, a wolf and a crackler on the collar.
                        Especially chic looks a blue-gray cut, the Air Force, after all, and not the British telebachanie. laughing
          2. Cthulhu
            Cthulhu 20 November 2015 14: 56 New
            0
            Quote: SectaHaki
            by chance no, but I already understand the break

            only the cadets are allowed to wear a military uniform of a valid standard

            I would recommend you go to the forest, even if you are bored ...


            good

            It seems to you to distinguish the difference between the "current" and the 1945 model, the task is not the easiest lol
            And where did the grammatical errors and clumsiness of the syllable go? Burn yet wink
            1. Secta
              Secta haki 20 November 2015 15: 00 New
              0
              was specifically written - "acting"

              Are you a teacher of the Russian language who does not understand Russian? forest, go, forest ...
              1. Cthulhu
                Cthulhu 20 November 2015 15: 39 New
                +2
                Quote: SectaHaki
                was specifically written - "acting"

                Are you a teacher of the Russian language who does not understand Russian? forest, go, forest ...


                What a dear forest, what are you talking about? laughing We have children, usually use the phrase "Sam" fellow
                The child on the avatar is dressed in the uniform of the 1945 model, which is sold here in military-patriotic stores. And the caps on May 9, are sold in almost every stall. Or do you, like the figures from the Pentagon, think that we are still flying Po-2 and wearing caps and kirzachi, while remembering to play the balalaika? lol
                1. Secta
                  Secta haki 20 November 2015 15: 42 New
                  0
                  in which ear do you still buzzing? the walking profanity of everything in the spirit of the times ...
                2. Cthulhu
                  Cthulhu 20 November 2015 16: 19 New
                  0
                  Quote: SectaHaki
                  in which ear do you still buzzing? the walking profanity of everything in the spirit of the times ...


                  Ahah, how cute. Nud you dear, nud. Return the salary back. And do not move out of the chosen topic of propaganda, otherwise attentive readers will pay attention to this. And how is it in the training manual? If you can’t give an argument to the opponent, send ... Pierced with Siberia, you are our “partner”.
                3. Secta
                  Secta haki 20 November 2015 16: 29 New
                  +1
                  are you justifying a nickname? take off the invisible cap, reptiloid ...
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu
                4. Cthulhu
                  Cthulhu 20 November 2015 16: 46 New
                  0
                  Quote: SectaHaki
                  are you justifying a nickname? take off the invisible cap, reptiloid ...
                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cthulhu


                  Fear exceptional, I'm an evil demon from Russia fellow laughing
                5. Secta
                  Secta haki 20 November 2015 17: 23 New
                  +1
                  scared a hedgehog already ...
  • Uncle VasyaSayapin
    Uncle VasyaSayapin 20 November 2015 12: 08 New
    0
    We can say so about any profession. But from personal practice, we know that among all professions there are different people: both smart and fools and those responsible to society and scum. It seems to me not worth generalizing with sharp estimates. Only harm from loafers is not enough. They sit at their computers and knock on the clave.
  • xBoris
    xBoris 20 November 2015 09: 12 New
    0
    ..in this sense, we should learn and study from them.
    The second part of the state’s defense against criminals - the prosecutor’s court - in my opinion, is no less lame, and maybe more.
    How many cases, when the police, detectives ... risking their lives, and often die catching criminals, who are then released by the courts ..
  • Baron Wrangell
    Baron Wrangell 20 November 2015 09: 25 New
    +4
    I will tell you from personal experience.
    at the beginning of the 90's, when there was friendship, chewing gum, etc. between us and the USA, 1 police were sent to us for 10 management for a month, if the memory does not change from Detroit. So to speak, for the exchange of experience. Healthy guys arrived, both white and black, we were surprised then, they were big, all for 180, and weighing about 100kg. They arrived in the line of the militia of public safety, i.e. PPS, traffic police (then traffic police) and other public order protection.
    They arrived with their equipment. at that time we looked at it with our mouths open, each one has a light Kevlar armor, a belt with equipment, I will not describe, as well as with my firearms. We were then struck by a system for fixing a pistol in a holster. Oh, the American cop just uses weapons - a bike. He has an arsenal of non-lethal weapons,. For a month, we realized that the level of training is very high in terms of specific actions.
    preparation and study is different, they have many trainings, practical exercises, where cadets are taught how to act in a given situation before automatism. And what for in the initial training courses, that in educational institutions, one theory. sit listen and write. from practical exercises only shooting in a shooting range exercise No. 1.
    1. corporal
      corporal 20 November 2015 10: 02 New
      +4
      Quote: Baron Wrangell
      1 police officers were sent to our office for 10 month

      We also had around 00. He liked our kandey in UAZ. They didn’t believe that 8 people could be pushed in there laughing Our demonstrated on some kind of application .....
  • tolancop
    tolancop 20 November 2015 09: 27 New
    +9
    Article plus. But a few words should be said in defense of our policemen ... American policemen are not so decisive and courageous in themselves, they know that even in the case of "jambs" the STATE will stand up for their defense in the person of their entire sickly car. And our policeman, even be a thousand times right - ten circles of hell will pass ... And not the fact that it will be successful.

    A case from a life that an old traffic policeman told me (now long since retired): "I stop a foreigner .. I’m coming up, they are sitting and their hands on the steering wheel are just a window open. I asked for documents ... I gave my documents and hands again on the steering wheel ... I while I was looking at the documents, the automatic machine belt crawled from my shoulder and I just pulled it up with my shoulder ... I drove the driver like that: there was more than fear on my face — horror and white-white fingers on the steering wheel. I had to urgently reassure and explain that there were no complaints about him ... "...
    1. tolancop
      tolancop 20 November 2015 09: 48 New
      10
      And in the sequel ...
      Society will somehow begin to show interest in the problems of our police only after some extreme happens (and gets publicity): either they beat a policeman in the market and a howl rises "YES he cannot protect himself, not that we are! !! ", or like Kazan sadists with a bottle in ... an indecent place and again howling" Sadiugs in uniform and werewolves. " And behind the howl, the question somehow disappears why exactly SO is happening, and not so HOW TO BE? It’s somehow clear and described with the policemen beaten up at the bazaar, but on the other extreme there is much less clarity ... With the “werewolves” who cut money, there’s clarity in general - people came to “earn”. But with the sadists who beat out the necessary evidence, not everything is so obvious. What kind of interest do they have? And such .. The regional chief of the Ministry of Internal Affairs wants to get a raise, but for this we need good statistics ("sticks"). And he annoys the bosses with a lower rank ... And in the end, the demand for "sticks" reaches the bottom, to the people who can make these "sticks". And sooner or later a situevina is created when the “stick” is needed at ANY PRICE, which is called “Take it out, put it down ....” So they “take it out” and “put it down ...” And when it reaches the extreme, then all the higher management will remain "white and fluffy", giving to the torn down grassroots performers. Only the fact that sadists often produce the system of a strong howl is not observed ... I do not condone the criminals in uniform, but it annoys me (infuriates, if you like) that the bosses of these criminals, being actually instigators, often get off with a slight startle.
      1. 1234567890
        1234567890 20 November 2015 11: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: tolancop
        And in the end, the demand for "sticks" reaches the bottom, to the people who can make these "sticks"

        Yes sir. The question is right.
        1. corporal
          corporal 20 November 2015 12: 36 New
          +2
          Quote: 1234567890
          Yes sir. The question is right.

          And after all, they don’t care how. Just take it out and put it down. And God forbid you will not ...... you will have a pale appearance.
          Quote: tolancop
          the fact that the bosses of these criminals, being actually instigators, often get off with a slight startle.

          The loudest screams are that they were not instructed, they did not order ... and the general performer, and the pest, attack him!
      2. Karabanov
        Karabanov 20 November 2015 20: 11 New
        +1
        Quote: tolancop
        . And in the end, the demand for "sticks" reaches the bottom, to the people who can make these "sticks". And sooner or later a situevina is created when a "stick" is needed at ANY PRICE that is called "Take it out, put it down ...."

        The wand system - there is an ugly remnant that they cannot get rid of for years. And all because that is necessary for this, and it is just NECESSARY to break the entire system ... Who will do this? No matter how vicious the system is, it will not destroy itself. Therefore, we observe such a perverted "hypocrisy" in the structures of the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
        Well, in the end, as it always happens, ordinary performers suffer, who by their nature are not interested in this rotten system, but only fulfill the requirements that apply to them.
        1. tolancop
          tolancop 20 November 2015 23: 14 New
          +1
          You can scold the current system of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and others as much as you like. You can (at least theoretically allow this possibility) to break and build a new, "stickless."
          Urya ?! Unfortunately, IMHO, it’s too early to rejoice, because in my opinion, soon everything will return to normal again, i.e. to the "sticks". And the reason for this phenomenon is simple: there is no system of objective assessment of the effectiveness of law enforcement agencies. And if it is not, then a rating system arises that does not suffer from objectivity. I’ll try to clarify ... There are 2 neighboring districts of one city - A and B ... Similar as 2 twin brothers. And now, after six months, the police commander’s office (the administration or whatever it is called there), gives the chief city police officer a report based on which it follows that in the territory A 100 thefts were discovered, 200 hucksters were seized and planted, and only 70 were discovered in the territory B and byryg with weed only 50 were jammed. Which boss worked better? The answer suggests itself: Head A, his performance is higher. But not everything is so simple ... If we take into account that Head B with his subordinates plowed like a damned few years before and significantly reduced the number of sorcerers and hucksters in his area, then it turns out that Head A objectively worked better ... Only now no one will take this into account, on the contrary, the wick is still stuck in the head of B for a decrease in performance compared to the same period last year (APPG - such an infection !!!!). But it may turn out that boss B does not really do anything, but, on the contrary, cleans up the “Augean stables” he inherited from past times. The numbers are the same, but without taking into account many factors, sometimes not depending on the leaders A and B, the interpretation can be diametrically opposite.
          1. Secta
            Secta haki 21 November 2015 06: 06 New
            +1
            Such "statistics" were introduced specifically to ruin the country ...
  • X
    X Y Z 20 November 2015 09: 46 New
    +2
    For some reason, it is customary for us to show sympathy to the person who committed the crime, and not to his victim. The criminal needs sympathy! Interestingly, at the time the crime was committed, he was thinking about how to deliver the victim a minimum of inconvenience? However, this is just a philosophy.


    Absolutely right! I watched on TV a plot from the courtroom where the killer was tried. The whole audience was "sick" for the killer not to receive a life sentence. Everyone fought for it, forgetting about the parents and relatives of the murdered person who was sitting here, to whom no one else cared. Their feelings no longer worried anyone ...
    PS Because of this, moral damage in our country is not considered as something important and expensive. They pay a penny or nothing at all.
  • AUL
    AUL 20 November 2015 10: 04 New
    +1
    Quote: hohryakov066
    What? Torture victim? Or did you watch TV?

    A recent recent case is in Kazan. Before this, only in the last year there have been similar situations in the Urals, the Far East, and Siberia. Are you few? These are only those cases that received wide publicity, could not hush up.
    And I watch TV sometimes, but in moderation. Especially, "Dialogues about fishing" and KVN. What I wish you too!
    1. 1234567890
      1234567890 20 November 2015 11: 37 New
      +1
      Quote: AUL
      Recent Recent Case - in Kazan

      Is it with a bottle? What is he recent? They already got everything there, it's time to forget. What kind of manner the citizens have - the nasties remember for a long time, at every opportunity they poke honest diggers not involved in these outrages, and not only they don’t remember the good, but they don’t know at all.
  • 1234567890
    1234567890 20 November 2015 10: 11 New
    +5
    The article is definitely a plus, though I would like to learn more about the rules for using weapons, special means and physical. strength with them.
    But even if you don’t delve into it, it’s clear that mattresses have something to learn in this regard. With us, as usual, only the worst is borrowed from foreign experience. Let’s recall Luntik’s speeches on the blue eye during the "reform of the Ministry of Internal Affairs". The fact that the American cops read out the rights - he, the parquet modernizador, remembered and offered to introduce it. But he didn’t remember that the American cops had the right to use weapons, that the American cops were well protected by law and you just couldn’t spit on their faces and could not tear off epaulettes - also, apparently, the poor thing forgot. Therefore, I did not offer to introduce it. The Law "On Police" in terms of the use of weapons, means / equipment and force became even worse than before. Rollers in the internet, when drunk earhooks are battling with the same traffic cops, and even amicably rolled around on the ground, instead of sitting in bracelets in a dog lover, they are very revealing.
    And by the way: Legally, to attract a scoop that throws, breaks off shoulder straps, etc. - Pure water hemorrhoids, make out worn out. And then another justice of the peace disdainfully squeezes something like “Duc this is your job, okay, well, I'll give him a day.” In this situation, there are two options: 1. Wipe off and continue to endure and flow around (in this case, it is better to quit immediately). 2. drag to the department and carry out educational work in an accessible language (which is much simpler and more efficient and the majority of those who have overheated understand everything correctly). That's where the bulk of the "police arbitrariness" comes from.
    1. Secta
      Secta haki 20 November 2015 10: 56 New
      +1
      ... maybe even more of police corruption?
      1. 1234567890
        1234567890 20 November 2015 11: 49 New
        0
        What is the connection? Corruption is a separate issue. Duc about it is better to talk with the Maaaskvichs and comrades from the southern regions, otherwise I'm not very familiar with the topic.
        1. Secta
          Secta haki 20 November 2015 12: 14 New
          0
          What is separate right away?
  • asv96
    asv96 20 November 2015 10: 18 New
    +2
    Quote: Jack-B
    Quote: Corporal
    Article +, although it is far from complete.

    And I minusanul. I do not quite understand why there is an advertisement for the American police here? She's too specific. To find out what to learn from them, you have to delve a lot into the differences in the legal framework of our and their police, in the mentality and in all other aspects.
    The driver is recommended to put his hands on the "ten and two." No sudden movements and attempts to get documents out of your pocket (even worse - delve into the glove compartment).

    So they have almost free possession of weapons. It is clear that the "officer" has reason to be nervous. Why should we adopt such "honed procedures"? In America, the cult of musklars and a lot of good roads for racing, including with the police. In such a situation, ramming on every police car is probably justified. And why is it ours? In short, perhaps out of habit, the work of the American policemen delights, but if you dig deeper, its advantages over our law enforcement officers are IMHO controversial.

    Tobish is normal when, even in front of the cameras, a diamond one yells at a policeman throws it on the hood, and the AK hangs on his chest and cannot even wrap his hands, for such actions.
    1. Secta
      Secta haki 20 November 2015 13: 39 New
      +1
      there are probably too many brilliants that completely lost fear, and the one with AK - sucker, or behind the scenes already got a couple in his pocket ...

      maybe behind the scenes it’s still left where the police were wrong, so the diamond had the right to behave like that
  • Support
    Support 20 November 2015 10: 25 New
    +5
    I agree - the article is a plus. Our policemen, after all, are too tightly squeezed by the framework of the Rules, Instructions, Laws, etc. He is spread rot, but he cannot do anything. They beat him, but he stupidly stands and asks - calm down. If they stop me, why should I greet? He showed, told and left. Rights to download? To whom? Who is in the service? Show yourself by whom? Moron?
    And the young tenacious majors - to spread rot until the blue in the face and so that they could not walk, the aphid bars ....
    1. Secta
      Secta haki 20 November 2015 11: 01 New
      0
      Sheep ... still pockets twist

      Yes, not to spread rot, and if he is right, and not a sheep himself against such a major, then at least he will break his pen ...
      1. tolancop
        tolancop 20 November 2015 11: 35 New
        +2
        "..a if he’s right, and he’s not a sheep against such a major, at least he’s broken his pen ...
        Do you understand what you wrote? Just at the "major", in contrast to the ordinary carrier, a bunch of lawyers, or even a friend, are being found (read - the "fed" dad, the general is not the last department).
        Describe the further development of events for a nasty-looking policeman, or do you figure it out yourself?
        1. Secta
          Secta haki 20 November 2015 12: 10 New
          0
          you didn’t realize it, and didn’t understand ...
          1. Secta
            Secta haki 20 November 2015 12: 27 New
            0
            otherwise it turns out that they can do absolutely everything.
            a lawyer must work within the law, a policeman should twist his hands too ...
    2. Kombrig
      Kombrig 20 November 2015 11: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Prop
      I agree - the article is a plus. Our policemen, after all, are too tightly squeezed by the framework of the Rules, Instructions, Laws, etc. He is spread rot, but he cannot do anything. They beat him, but he stupidly stands and asks - calm down. If they stop me, why should I greet? He showed, told and left. Rights to download? To whom? Who is in the service? Show yourself by whom? Moron?
      And the young tenacious majors - to spread rot until the blue in the face and so that they could not walk, the aphid bars ....


      That’s the problem, they’re afraid of touching the major, because there may be consequences, but they can heal an ordinary layman, and even without a camera, and be healthy ...
      1. tasha
        tasha 20 November 2015 12: 41 New
        +1
        I slammed you in disapproval of disapproval, but hurried. And among ordinary inhabitants, still those frames come across where to the majors. As for the hell, you know, the temptation of power. And not everyone can overcome it. And this is not only about the police.
        My friend, a policeman, has a good friend who will always come and if that will be a witness. It’s just that I know that he’ll never take a drunk and won’t be unlimited. And we are not afraid of majors ... :)
      2. tolancop
        tolancop 20 November 2015 13: 39 New
        +2
        “The point is that they’re afraid of touching the major, because there may be consequences, but they can heal an ordinary layman, and even without a camera, and be healthy ...”
        The symptom of the disease was described, but the cause was not. They prefer not to mess with majors because they know that with rare exceptions, protection from their state (leadership) can not be expected. On the contrary, most likely it will be necessary to fight back not even from the major “with comrades”, but from the state machine in the person of the prosecutor’s office, etc. And you have to fight back on your own ... And it's not a fact that you will fight back. The knowledge of this circumstance leads to serious "enthusiasm" of police officers.

        Regarding the "lawlessness" of the police, I recalled a story told by good friends (a policeman, long retired). "... In a crowded place on a winter evening (it was already getting dark) they detained a hooligan citizen. They took him under the white hands and led him to the“ bobik. ”And time was the most frenzy of democracy ... And one aunt came up to us - followed and hissed "policemen, lawless people, 37 years old," etc. I got it - I won’t save it !!!. I slightly pushed the detainee to the side and quietly told him like this: “If you break away from us now, you will go down the slope and run to her, then we will Of course, we’ll catch up, but ... WE WILL NOT UNDERSTAND ... and DO NOT IDENTIFY on occasion. ”Detained:“ Guys, do not deceive? .. "...“ Do not deceive, we give the word! ... ". In general "pulled out our detainee went to the "human rights activist" and fled! “Human rights activist”, from such chagrin, got into a snowdrift, in complete surprise looked at the world around him and yelled: “POLICE !!!! ...”. The people around the bellies tore .... ".
  • alexej123
    alexej123 20 November 2015 10: 37 New
    -2
    Munosoval. The article is one-sided. One would like to say - what a delight to live in the USA and “what a nasty thing to live in the evil Mordor.”
    1. 1234567890
      1234567890 20 November 2015 11: 29 New
      0
      Quote: alexej123
      what a delight to live in the USA; and "what a nasty thing to live in the evil Mordor."

      The article is not "for life," but about the work of the police. And not one-sided, but a little superficial.
      1. alexej123
        alexej123 20 November 2015 11: 37 New
        +1
        I admit, I got a little excited, it’s a shame in the comments for our guys. Superficial, but not "small."
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  • made13
    made13 20 November 2015 10: 41 New
    +4
    Article +, of our police + too. American police, of course, are not the standard, but they work systemically. This is a national level. We have one law, but in different regions laws are read differently. And not just the police. And there are reasons to respect the police. Any shit, no matter how he fought for freedom and wished for power, as soon as something happens he runs to where? To the police, prosecutors, etc.
    1. Kombrig
      Kombrig 20 November 2015 11: 34 New
      +1
      Quote: made13
      Any shit, no matter how he fought for freedom and wished for power, as soon as something happens he runs to where? To the police, prosecutors, etc.


      Always enraged by this argument, but what, are there other alternatives? What, to understand? In the 90s, when the power was weak, they turned to bandits, for example ..))
      1. Secta
        Secta haki 20 November 2015 12: 17 New
        -1
        Just the bandits were more honest ... laughing
  • atamankko
    atamankko 20 November 2015 10: 53 New
    0
    The law should be the law, not the drawbar for majors.
  • Rash
    Rash 20 November 2015 11: 08 New
    0
    Quote: 1234567890
    And by the way: Legally, to attract a scoop that throws, breaks off shoulder straps, etc. - Pure water hemorrhoids, make out worn out.


    Nothing like this. Himself in his youth was a trickster in this role. The next morning, they gave an admin article for disobedience and resistance to organs. crying
    1. 1234567890
      1234567890 20 November 2015 11: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: Rash
      The next morning, they gave an admin article for disobedience and resistance to organs.

      Lucky mean?
      Here, after all, where it just doesn’t have to. Much depends on the personal relationship between leaders or individual employees with prosecutorial and judicial in the field. That is, the system does not work, but personal connections.
      1. Rash
        Rash 20 November 2015 12: 12 New
        0
        Yes, lucky. They wrote out a sickly fine and released. But they could have been for 15 days ... belay
  • Slax
    Slax 20 November 2015 11: 22 New
    -1
    Quote: kalibr
    By the way, according to statistics, an American cop takes out a gun once every 7 years for service and uses it every 17 years! That is, it is very rare!


    Incorrect statistics. if the cop took out a gun, he immediately uses it, doesn’t fire warning shots like his Russian counterpart, plus it should be borne in mind that in the United States more than 300 million barrels are in the population and therefore the cops use weapons in priority order over other special means

  • Zymran
    Zymran 20 November 2015 11: 54 New
    0
    All the same, I personally am most impressed with the British police, who most often do not even carry weapons.
    1. marshes
      marshes 20 November 2015 12: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Zymran
      All the same, I personally am most impressed with the British police, who most often do not even carry weapons.

      We have PPSniki, the VV-NAC Guard, conscripts do not carry the same weapons, except for the RUBBER-73 STICK. laughing Well, maybe pepper spray.
    2. psiho117
      psiho117 20 November 2015 13: 51 New
      +2
      Wrong they they him did not wear.
      And now they are wearing as cute, and to strengthen the assault. rifles carry in the trunk.
      this bullshit with unarmed "bobby" was stopped in the mid-2000s, when a hitchhiker bydlo began to beat the English police.
  • marshes
    marshes 20 November 2015 12: 07 New
    +1
    In the US, the police are quite effective. The budget, depending on the state or municipality. They report for every cent. Plus informatization, all kinds of computers, gadgets lotions.
    Electivity, Midwest, Shirifov okrug, they then recruit assistants, report to the population.
    In our KZ, they want to create something like that, the Local Police, they really don’t talk about any election of representatives of the authorities, they only report to the local executive authorities and the population that something from the USSR, there the local bosses reported to OBL, GOR, RAY lump of the Party and the party was one. Let's see what happens after the NG.
  • Yes I am Russian
    Yes I am Russian 20 November 2015 12: 23 New
    -1
    it's just that our cops are more soulful ... The great Russian soul cannot be hidden under the form.
    and the soul, she does not like instructions and protocols, she is free to do whatever she wants)
    therefore, our cops very often have everything through the opa.
    and omerikosy as robots all according to the instructions. such cops would not have taken root with us. too correct.
    1. Secta
      Secta haki 20 November 2015 12: 25 New
      -3
      There are almost no Russians in the police ... sew the "Russians".
  • marshes
    marshes 20 November 2015 12: 49 New
    0
    At the expense of cars, their cars are “chic”, spacious, thanks to the road information. If you take it, again the Midwest and the real America are mostly moving there in the domestic automobile industry, the car is less than 100 cu inches is not of interest. It is not hipsters or so on ... Lovers of foreign cars or hybrids.
    SWAT is basically not a separate unit, such as OMON or special forces of the Ministry of Internal Affairs. Mostly there are active patrol policemen, assistant sheriffs and employees of special departments. Well, this mainly depends on the budget. Of course, this is an additional salary, social media. insurance and a good pension, the ability to even get out earlier.
  • Stanislas
    Stanislas 20 November 2015 12: 54 New
    +2
    Comparing American policemen with ours, many here support the thesis: "we have a police officer, that anyone can offend him." And they still regret that the skills of quick and brutal reprisals against violators who do not comply with the requirements of the police officer have not been brought to perfection. I recall one case that a friend of mine living in a rural area recently told me about.
    In the morning she went to refuel an ATV, on which her 13-year-old son drives a country road. On the side of the road is a car of nuts, one of them needs to stop. She pressed herself against the curb and stopped. A healthy man in uniform with red eyes and a thick smell of fume came staggering toward her.
    - Your documents.
    - What kind?
    - Documents!
    - Here is the data sheet.
    - It is not necessary. Your documents.
    - Do you need my passport?
    - Documents!!
    A friend looked at the police car, hoping to see someone sober in it. A companion slept in the driver's seat, opening his mouth wide and throwing his head back on the back of the seat.
    - What kind?!
    The traffic cop sighed heavily, took out a handkerchief, wiped sweat from his forehead, turned and went to wake his partner. He got out of the car with a question:
    “Did you check her documents?”
    - What kind?
    - Documents!
    - What kind?!
    The first gait turned in her direction and waved his rod.
    - Drive!
    She left, without waiting for a final clarification of the question, which documents were required by the traffic police in the early morning from the driver of the teenage ATV.
    Do you think that the main problem of our law enforcement system is the legal insecurity of police officers and their unwillingness to harshly suppress attempts to disobey by violators? And I think - that the bulk of the police, prosecutors, judges come to this system not in order to serve the law, but only to use the law for personal purposes.
    1. marshes
      marshes 20 November 2015 13: 09 New
      +1
      By the way, quadrics need rights if the engine is more than 50 cc. That the Chinese are pretty frisky, there are up to 50 cubes. Previously, if the memory does not change, the rights of the "tractor driver" should have been present. Now it seems category A, there are notes Enough. And from the age of 14. perhaps.
      So the case, a 12-year-old snotlivet shot down a little girl on a quadric, we almost ended with a “war”. Kazakhstan.
      1. Stanislas
        Stanislas 20 November 2015 13: 13 New
        0
        Quote: marshes
        if the engine is more than 50 cc
        Specially written "teenage", cubes 25-30.
        1. marshes
          marshes 20 November 2015 13: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Stanislav
          Specially written "teenage", cubes 25-30.

          Yes, they also need to be registered according to the idea, as well as cyclists. All the same, road users.
          Here is a case, two years ago. Shopping at the store, I hear a signal. I look at the scooter near my car and rises and hides in the nearest gateway. The car is in the parking pocket, the left side mirror and the full-length strip are torn off. Where to look? Or wait for insurers? On camera everything is spotted, to whom? Repair in 300 bucks.
          Motorcyclists in Europe have light-reflecting vests in them, orange make them dress. We are silent on this topic. I used to ride a chopper and wear a vest, even wear it for hunting. There are a lot of woodpeckers. And the beast has black and white eyesight.
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 20 November 2015 13: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: marshes
            Here is a case, two years ago ...
            “There was a similar case in our village. Uncle Yermolai the goat blew so hard that her horns straightened up.”
        2. Cthulhu
          Cthulhu 20 November 2015 13: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Stanislav
          Specially written "teenage", cubes 25-30.


          For reference. Starting November 5, 2013, a category M driver's license was introduced for driving mopeds and scooters.
          In accordance with the Federal Law "On Road Safety"
          1. The following categories and their subcategories of vehicles are established in the Russian Federation, for which special right is granted to drive (hereinafter - the right to drive vehicles):
          category "M" - mopeds and light quadricycles;
          So that there is no doubt, the same Federal Law clarification:
          "Moped" - a two- or three-wheeled motor vehicle with a maximum design speed of not more than 50 km / h, having an internal combustion engine with a displacement not exceeding 50 cubic meters. cm, or an electric motor with a rated maximum power in continuous operation of more than 0,25 kW and less than 4 kW. Quadricycles having similar technical characteristics are equated to mopeds.
          And further:
          2.1. The driver of a motor vehicle is obliged to:
          2.1.1. To carry with them and, at the request of the police, transfer them, for verification:
          a driver’s license or a temporary permit for the right to drive a vehicle of the corresponding category;

          This change in the SDA entered into force on April 8, 2014. From this date, drivers of mopeds and scooters are required to have a driver's license with them.
          Just in case, let me remind you that not only M category rights are suitable for mopeds and scooters. The Federal Law "On Road Traffic Safety" permits driving these vehicles with any open category of rights. For example, if you have a category B driver’s license, then it is quite suitable for driving a scooter.
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 20 November 2015 14: 02 New
            +1
            Quote: Cthulhu
            For reference. Starting November 5, 2013 ...
            Your help is needed for what? To cover the law of the behavior on the road of two drunkards in uniform? Who told you that it was after 5.11.2013/3/XNUMX? She spoke about XNUMX weeks ago, not as news, but under the conversation. The registration certificate suggested that they look at the technical characteristics of the vehicle and make sure that a driver’s license is not required. But the point is not even that, but that they could not remember the word “rights” in such a “zyuze,” or maybe they felt that rights were not needed here, but they really wanted money.
            1. Secta
              Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 07 New
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              look, do not insist on your innocence, otherwise they will simply close the comments on the article ... this happens here. lol
            2. tasha
              tasha 20 November 2015 14: 15 New
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              Stanislav. No offense, but I do not believe your relative. In our country, in one of the Siberian regions, the staff of the Ministry of Internal Affairs is being reduced. And not the first one. And the cranks you described flew out of the organs yet xs when. The people hold on to the service not only with two hands, clings their teeth ...
              1. Secta
                Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 27 New
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                It also doesn’t happen ...
                1. tasha
                  tasha 20 November 2015 14: 38 New
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                  I do not argue. A wave rolls, rolls from behind the Urals.
                  1. Secta
                    Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 42 New
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                    It's vryatli, people are much better there. bully
                    1. tasha
                      tasha 20 November 2015 14: 45 New
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                      Umm. A wave is rolling over the Urals from the West :)
                      1. Secta
                        Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 50 New
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                        Something was written there about the Siberian regions, they are from the east ...
                      2. tasha
                        tasha 20 November 2015 15: 13 New
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                        Here are the Christmas trees. I explain. According to observations, everything good and modern comes to us in Siberia from the European part of Russia. But with a delay of a year or two. The same goes for the bad.
                      3. Secta
                        Secta haki 20 November 2015 15: 18 New
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                        according to observations, all the good comes only from Siberia ...
                      4. tasha
                        tasha 20 November 2015 15: 25 New
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                        Information Note:
                        "We have such an expression - here you are the devil linguistic" ...
                        wink
                      5. Cthulhu
                        Cthulhu 20 November 2015 16: 01 New
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                        Quote: tasha
                        tasch (1) RU Today, 15:25 ↑

                        Information Note:
                        "We have such an expression - here you are the devil linguistic" ...
                        wink


                        + also noticed laughing. Old songs about the main thing (independent Siberia) fellow. Yes buddy
                        Quote: SectaHaki
                        SectaHaki US
                        I thought you were an ordinary troll, but it seems that you underestimated the daughter of an officer laughing The companies created new ones to counter the propaganda of Russia, and the training manuals remained old. It just seems that our "partner" from the USA made a mistake on the site. wink
      2. Stanislas
        Stanislas 20 November 2015 14: 51 New
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        Quote: tasha
        I do not believe your relative
        This is not my relative, and it is your right to believe or not. Maybe you have certification in one of the Siberian regions that didn’t take place according to the tax rate, and they are being reduced because of the lack of professionalism and not personal loyalty to superiors, who knows ...
        1. tasha
          tasha 20 November 2015 15: 04 New
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          Stanislav, thanks for the answer. And we have a problem. What else will I tell you. Tell me a friend about such a case, I would have obtained information about the place, the time of the incident from her personal harm and would have handed over such dummies. :)
    2. Cthulhu
      Cthulhu 20 November 2015 14: 36 New
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      And then 2 drunk or from Budun de..la in uniform? Commentary on cubes or not?
      1. Secta
        Secta haki 20 November 2015 14: 43 New
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        data sheet to the cubes that she offered.
        1. Cthulhu
          Cthulhu 20 November 2015 15: 13 New
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          Quote: SectaHaki
          data sheet to the cubes that she offered.


          Hmm. Anyway. Forest and Brevik are not in my style. I’ll try to explain this. A question arose between two forum participants: do you need rights to motor vehicles up to 50 cubic meters or not? This is the question I answered in my comment. No more, no less.
          1. Secta
            Secta haki 20 November 2015 15: 17 New
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            Quote: Cthulhu
            A question arose between the two forum participants: do you need rights to motor vehicles up to 50 cubic meters or not

            there wasn’t such ...
            1. Cthulhu
              Cthulhu 20 November 2015 15: 48 New
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              Quote: SectaHaki
              Quote: Cthulhu
              A question arose between the two forum participants: do you need rights to motor vehicles up to 50 cubic meters or not

              there wasn’t such ...


              Respect good

              Quote: marshes
              swamps (2) EE Today, 13:09 ↑

              By the way, quadrics need rights if the engine is more than 50 cc


              Quote: Stanislav
              Stanislav (2) RU Today, 13:13 ↑

              Quote: marshes
              if the engine is more than 50 cc
              Specially written "teenage", cubes 25-30.


              Yes? No? Well, tell me wrong, sorry ... I will give you a candy in the form of +, or rude as the last argument laughing
              1. marshes
                marshes 20 November 2015 16: 09 New
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                Quote: Cthulhu
                Yes? No? Well, tell me wrong, sorry ... I will give you a candy in the form of +, or rude as the last argument

                We have similar legislation with the Russian Federation and the KZ.
                Only they like to experiment with us, then they introduce you.
                My will, on all vehicles introduced state. numbers and those passports. Up to bicycles. Corruption - we introduced a rather interesting thing to the public service center, a public service center. A fucking thing. It's convenient, fast and everything is clear. And most importantly, it works if we take into account our corruption?
              2. Cthulhu
                Cthulhu 20 November 2015 16: 42 New
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                Quote: marshes
                We have similar legislation with the Russian Federation and the KZ.


                I agree with you 100%. Once a friend from the KZ asked me to advise on the divorce process, I tried to deny from the beginning, but in the end I took it. I don’t know how it is now, but 5 years ago the family and civil codes are almost identical (although there are still nuances).
                We also introduced similar centers. I really did not know that this topic came from KZ. Your legislators are huge +. Let's share more similar know-how. These PSCs really removed the extortion of money upon receipt of certificates. Here, where, where, and here in terms of the fight against corruption is a definite plus.
                At the expense of rights to all types of vehicles, I do not even know. I had doubts about mopeds up to 50 cubic meters, although probably a measure of coercion due to the huge growth of this type of equipment. But the bike, it's overkill in my opinion.
              3. marshes
                marshes 20 November 2015 17: 14 New
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                Quote: Cthulhu
                We also introduced similar centers. I really did not know that this topic came from KZ. Your legislators are huge +. Let's share more similar know-how. These PSCs really removed the extortion of money upon receipt of certificates. Here, where, where, and here in terms of the fight against corruption is a definite plus.

                We do not yet cover all the services. The car theme has become clean, but real estate. Private house, renaming the village and the street. In view of our mentality, if you arrived at Kruzak 200, you are a big boss. And there things were in the land, ARCH, committee. The truth was decided there very quickly and at low cost and in the public service center confirmation and a new house. book -15 minutes. It would also be desirable to introduce them into the public service center.
                Quote: Cthulhu
                At the expense of rights to all types of vehicles, I do not even know. I had doubts about mopeds up to 50 cubic meters, although probably a measure of coercion due to the huge growth of this type of equipment. But the bike, it's overkill in my opinion.

                Yes, at least to get reflective vests to wear, it wouldn’t be bad. Now they’ve got divorced, you can’t notice them during the rebuilding. State numbers are obligatory. They behave not permissibly impudently. I’m afraid to get into a bad situation, I just physically cripple laughing
              4. Cthulhu
                Cthulhu 20 November 2015 17: 54 New
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                Quote: marshes
                Yes, at least to get reflective vests to wear, it would not be bad. Now they are divorced, you can not notice when rebuilding.


                Agree laughing . Especially motorcyclists in a traffic jam between the rows, also a gazette near the windshield, in general a fairy tale. The feeling that he had already crushed someone.

                In our DSPs, on the contrary, for the most part, certificates with real estate and land are connected, and certificates are issued about the absence of a criminal record. Although what for these criminal records are needed. More precisely, it is clear that some employers require, but what for the state officially encourages the violation of the Labor Code, it is not clear. Cars are still the fiefdom of the REO traffic police, although there are good shifts. Now you do not need to remove the car from the register when selling. In general, the sale and purchase of bribes from the traffic police left as a class. There were only obvious corruption components in the REO: these are rights and thieves. According to the numbers they came up with something, I don’t know, wait and see. According to the driver’s license, they’re also wise there, but it seems they’re not very sorry.
              5. marshes
                marshes 20 November 2015 18: 24 New
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                Quote: Cthulhu
                Especially motorcyclists in a traffic jam between the rows, also a gazette near the windshield, in general a fairy tale. The feeling that he had already crushed someone.

                Yes, it's time to figure it out, I started with the IL-Jupiter the end of the Honda chopper. Now I pay with my health.
                Quote: Cthulhu
                In our DSPs, on the contrary, for the most part, certificates with real estate and land are connected, and certificates are issued about the absence of a criminal record. Although what for these criminal records are needed.

                I re-registered two years ago, maybe something has changed with us. I often encounter cars, extra work, it’s cleaner there. Previously, there was an opportunity from Europe or America, the UAE to drive a car. I got involved with this topic and also with a forest from the Russian Federation. The crisis and I'm sick of it. And I didn’t raise money, I could feel "worthy" there, and not a poor relative. laughing
              6. marshes
                marshes 20 November 2015 18: 59 New
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                Quote: marshes
                , one could feel “worthy” -there, and not a poor relative.

                There was generally “rzhaka”, we had more than 14 thousand cash for two, plus a visa, KAZKOM, and traveler’s checks. Zyatek almost doubted, I changed my grandmother as much as I could for 5-10-20, like a taxi. the one about Kazakhstan is the country of Borats, by the way they met like that, another topic. He thought that we were drug dealers or spies laughing , that I shoot well. Damn Comedy. laughing And in homons of 100 mostly. The KGB, the former PV in another state, by the way, for the visa, the same braingggg, raped ... Before that I went to Germany, another sister, I still had visas.
    3. Secta
      Secta haki 20 November 2015 16: 23 New
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      No! You thought it was a question? Bite it yourself ... Do you have any of it?
  • Nekarmadlen
    Nekarmadlen 21 November 2015 13: 10 New
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    In Russia, the rights of a tractor driver are necessary for an ATV and it is forbidden to drive on public roads on it !!!! Scooter up to 50 cube, rights are not needed for any violation (drunk condition, departure for oncoming traffic, etc.) fine 300 rubles))))
  • tasha
    tasha 20 November 2015 12: 54 New
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    What do I think on Friday.
    Modern American police are the product of fierce natural selection. Who relaxed, violated the rules-instructions - that long ago some Billy Kid or Al Capone made an extra hole.
    And our what-slobs is. For example, do you read the instructions first or press the red button first?
    1. SlavaP
      SlavaP 20 November 2015 21: 33 New
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      Well, well, that’s where they were catching Al-Kapone with the whole police for ten years and couldn’t catch .... In the end, he was screwed by a Jewish accountant for tax evasion.
  • Alex1977RUS
    Alex1977RUS 20 November 2015 14: 16 New
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    Quote: Corporal
    From hooliganism to terrorism. From a year to 30-40-60. Now I don’t remember the border.
    At home, they do not flicker. So it would be the same for us, without looking back, so to speak, on the cryoprotectants.

    From a year hardly.
    Attempted federal property, intentional harm to federal property, intentional harm to national security entities, obstruction of the work of bodies ensuring US national security, terrorism ...
    This is only offhand, without trying to sew an attempt on the life and health of federal employees and so on, from sixty to life years.
  • Ilya77
    Ilya77 20 November 2015 18: 41 New
    +1
    Us lumbago everywhere ripened)) Oleg switched to the cops, it's something. We are waiting for the article than Valmart is better than the Crossroads.
    1. Secta
      Secta haki 20 November 2015 18: 49 New
      +1
      And who said that he is yours? Because he writes in Russian?
    2. PValery53
      PValery53 21 November 2015 13: 08 New
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      Our shot. And a backache is when it stabbed in your side (not with a “feather”).
  • Turkir
    Turkir 20 November 2015 19: 20 New
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    The emphasis in the article is on the technical equipment of the American police and this part is most interesting.
    Comparing the work of our police and the American is logically incorrect, at least for two main reasons:
    1. In the United States, in addition to officially authorized weapons, citizens have tens of thousands of illegal weapons.
    2. The difference in legislation.
    I will give the third argument, in my opinion the most significant: the US police state is standing guard over the interests of the rich. There are areas in the same New York where the police do not scamper at all, but in rich areas, one for every square meter.
    It would be nice to recall here the US bar.
    I still remember comparisons with the USSR for 1967 - in the United States there were fewer people than in the USSR, about 200 million in the United States. 250 million in the USSR. There are 25 thousand lawyers in the USSR, and 200 thousand in the USA.
    I think that these figures say a lot. There are many other facts - those who seek will find.
  • SlavaP
    SlavaP 20 November 2015 21: 30 New
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    Garbage - it is rubbish in Africa. Both in America and in the UK.
  • PValery53
    PValery53 21 November 2015 12: 51 New
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    US police - regime chain dogs. Such a "police" must be "treated" mercilessly, so that they know their place - protecting the population, not a demonstrative robbery.
    1. Secta
      Secta haki 21 November 2015 13: 07 New
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      "federals", and even not all ... the police in the states are elected by the local population, and are subordinate to local authorities.
  • Balbesoid
    Balbesoid 22 November 2015 12: 13 New
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    Quote: Down House
    Quote: Misha Honest
    These are the things

    Here you are lying, you feel godless, or your friend is hiding something - maybe he had drugs with him or something else, but now he just excuses himself?
    Because there are no fools in the police, to sit out of the blue for a couple of thousand for a couple of years.

    And let's recall the case of another “soviet” period! With GBShnik at the station - what then did these ghouls want from a person on the site waiting for the train ?! (that even the Ministry of Internal Affairs itself helped to pull out its shitfuls) Or do you think that all this has outgrown and we are now a society of the righteous? Well then, take a look outside, many who you don’t like can be employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the FSB and any GB !!! request For example, a neighbor from the entrance who pisses drunk on the corner of his own house in front of passers-by. Yes, they began to equalize, but the rows are cleaned from below, while first the top should be cleaned, so that for those below, on the ground, in general, the desire to "spoil" is lost!