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What will the fighters of Novorossia say in response to the speech of Girkin?

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So we survived to the next video statement of Mr. Girkin. Again, the theme of Donbass, more precisely, the armed forces of New Russia. And again, stunning (even for us) statements.




Taking a well-defined and justified position in relation to Mr. Girkin, this time we decided to refrain from making any comments at all. Personally, we all understand this situation. But Mr. Girkin touched upon those aspects that we are not entitled to judge today. If only because they have not been in those structures about which he speaks for a long time. So, we can not really judge. So we will not.

Let those who are directly related to the LC of the LC and the DNR speak for us. It is better for them, on places, to judge how much they correspond to what Girkin said in their address.

Dear our readers from Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics! We really want to hear your opinion!
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  1. siberko
    siberko 20 November 2015 10: 48
    17
    Everything is shrouded in some sort of secret .... what is actually going on, we probably will not know soon ...
    1. sannych
      sannych 20 November 2015 10: 56
      15
      Are there residents of LDNR on the site? What will they say about these words? Something unusual for me is not from Ukrainian media, but from Strelkov to hear.
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 20 November 2015 11: 07
        14
        I’ll say a commonplace thing, I won’t be surprised if I see Girkin with a white ribbon in an embrace with Navalny on Bolotnaya Square, and it is the residents and militias of LDNR who should evaluate his words, not us.
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 20 November 2015 11: 13
          +1
          I think he is Akhejakov! In other words - a snake warmed on his chest!
          Especially now, when the situation in the Donbass has become tense, when the warrior is on the threshold, he is harassing, vulgarizing the fighters, the defenders of their homeland! Even if poorly provided (it is clear why), it would be necessary to support both morally and financially!
          "Earned" a piece of fame! The well-known word-definition of V. Zhirinovsky suits him!
          1. Nicholas C.
            Nicholas C. 20 November 2015 11: 23
            35
            I personally do not believe Aslambek Andarbekovich Dudaev, the closest friend and employee of Khodorkovsky, Fridman and Berezovsky, at least call him Vladislav Surkov. Tuk just works wisdom: tell who your friend is and I will say ... I will believe everything that Strelkov will say about him, since apart from words Strelkov has things to do and a lot of fights in many wars for Russia. Behind Surkov - blablabla, demagoguery, and the efforts of the Jesuits to discredit opponents by abandoning themselves.
            It is possible that it was to what Strelkov was talking about that Surkov brought to New Russia.

            By the way, soon the term for three billion. The question is whether the fascist will give the junta killers another three billion?.
            1. Good me
              Good me 20 November 2015 11: 33
              +6
              Quote: Nikolai S.
              I personally do not believe Aslambek Andarbekovich Dudaev, the closest friend and employee of Khodorkovsky, Fridman and Berezovsky, call him Vladislav Surkov at least a hundred times.


              So it seems, they "pushed" Surkov away from supervising the process ...
              1. Turkir
                Turkir 20 November 2015 11: 54
                12
                So it seems, they "pushed" Surkov away from supervising the process ...

                Before the murder of such guys as Brain, Poor or after? Remind.
                1. Rusich is not from Kiev
                  Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 12: 17
                  -7
                  Quote: Turkir
                  Before the murder of such guys as Brain, Poor or after? Remind.

                  SECOND SECTANT WENT, OH SHOULD I GET THE MINUSES))
                  1. Turkir
                    Turkir 20 November 2015 12: 22
                    17
                    It would be nice if your thought would be understood not only by you alone.
                    1. Kite
                      Kite 20 November 2015 16: 38
                      +5
                      Quote: Turkir
                      It would be nice if your ....

                      mu
                      it would be nice if in the comments "those who are directly related to the armed forces of the LPR and the DPR will speak for us. It is better for them, on the ground, to judge how much they correspond to what Girkin said to them."
                      but after reading komenty, I did not see such. Sorry.
                      1. Kite
                        Kite 20 November 2015 17: 46
                        0
                        More precisely, there are isolated ones, which are very few on three pages of flooding is difficult to find. Who is in the subject? Respond, mark in the comment to make it easier to find your information.
                      2. I am Russian
                        I am Russian 20 November 2015 17: 55
                        +9
                        As I know.

                        Riflemen are right in 90% of what was said.
                        The militias, to put it mildly, are morally decaying, again, I'm not speaking for everyone. And then there was the Luga-Nova wine and vodka factory at the end of 2014 was re-launched.
                        Ideological remained, but they carry out preventive work.
                        Weapons in Lugansk HUGE quantity, every day work on the withdrawal of firearms.

                        In Debaltseve, many guys were killed, I won’t tell you the exact numbers.

                        Humanitarian aid - they dig what remains for sale. The case was in the DNI. They delivered humanitarian aid, mostly things, and the next day everyone hung in the market.
                      3. Valentine
                        Valentine 20 November 2015 19: 50
                        15 th
                        "As far as I know" ... And you were there to fence this crap? Aren't you lost as a resource to throw dirt on the militias? Walk to your "Censor", scum, there is your place.
                      4. I am Russian
                        I am Russian 20 November 2015 20: 25
                        14
                        Thanks so much for the revelation. hi In order to insult, you need to know the person. This is for the future.
                        Have I been there ?? It was. Because I'm from Lugansk. I myself have close relatives in the militia, so you know. And if emotions are going wild, save them for dill. Tip.
                        I’m not your couch strategist. I know what I'm writing about, but not about everything.
                        And do not poke me.
                      5. Trinity
                        Trinity 20 November 2015 22: 03
                        +4
                        Valentine / What are you throwing at people "like a mad dog", everyone on this site has the right to express their opinion, and everyone receives information from different sources. And what kind of "h.r.u." are you? from the hillock to tell people who is on which site? From you, patriotism and solidarity towards the militia rushes from all cracks, but after all, everything should be within reason. Why be rude?
                      6. I am Russian
                        I am Russian 20 November 2015 22: 13
                        +2
                        From Horlivka, a person seems to be. He experienced a lot and saw a lot.
                        I remember myself. Now it’s easier. hi
                      7. Valentine
                        Valentine 21 November 2015 10: 47
                        +1
                        Okay, sorry, I probably went too far, but I’m just from there, and there is no truce there, they are firing even harder than before.
                        It’s just that I can’t endure when the militia cries out of the same men as we do. Yes,
                        something negative is still encountered, but not at the same size as they say in the comments. And thanks to these guys
                        Donbass is not yet under the junta, there, is it bad or good, but life is getting better, and
                        God forbid, it will continue to improve.
                      8. I am Russian
                        I am Russian 21 November 2015 18: 01
                        +1
                        Respected! I never groaned mine. It's just that everyone has a different psyche. That's all. We cope as we can. And the militia has the same thing, but it all goes away. Now there is discipline. So you are in vain, nervous. hi
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      2. Cat man null
        Cat man null 20 November 2015 21: 51
        +1
        Quote: Turkir
        Before the murder of such guys as Brain, Bednov

        Don't you think that the "guys" you mentioned just fought too actively against the "general line"?

        Which, in fact, naturally led them to such a sad ending .. because, as you know, against the wind piss blowing is strongly discouraged.
    2. hrych
      hrych 20 November 2015 12: 00
      +2
      Key phrase: "... after I leave ..."
      1. ksan
        ksan 20 November 2015 13: 05
        +5
        grunt (5) RU Today, 12:00 ↑
        Key phrase: "... after I leave ..."
        It looks like it is. "Napoleon" was pushed aside. laughing
        1. Shveps
          Shveps 20 November 2015 22: 42
          +1
          Quote: ksan
          "Napoleon" was pushed aside.


          Key phrase of the speech: "There can be no healthy army in a sick society."
          Or maybe society is great?
          Who would risk proving otherwise?
          Hurray to scream - do not move your brains.
    3. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 12: 16
      11 th
      Quote: Good Me
      So it seems, they "pushed" Surkov away from supervising the process ...

      There you are. Well, let’s brother justify Girkin or agree.
  2. nazar_0753
    nazar_0753 20 November 2015 11: 42
    24
    Do you have an option to get three billion back? If there is, share with us. Even the hedgehog understands that Ruin will not pay, and from them we will not see this money. So now we are trying to shift the burden of three billion in installments onto the shoulders of European banks in the form of loan guarantees
    1. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 20 November 2015 11: 48
      +6
      Quote: nazar_0753
      . So now we are trying to shift the burden of three billion in installments onto the shoulders of European banks in the form of loan guarantees

      Right now .. today diesel fuel has already been refueled in 38 rubles .. you have to straighten your shoulders and take the goods .. think all these beautiful pictures on TV are paid by Deripaska with Abramovich ???
      1. Good me
        Good me 20 November 2015 11: 58
        +9
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        Right now .. today diesel fuel has already been refueled in 38 rubles .. you have to straighten your shoulders and take the goods .. think all these beautiful pictures on TV are paid by Deripaska with Abramovich ???


        And this is how?

        Truckers announced the formation of a protest convoy in 57 km
        Posted by 19.11.2015 21: 52 by admin Admin Views: 22
        On Thursday, protests by truckers were already held in 24 regions: Moscow Region, Karelia, Ulyanovsk and Chelyabinsk Regions, several regions of Siberia. Drivers are protesting against the new system of fees and fines, which earned from November 15. The fee is charged for the passage of trucks with a permitted maximum mass of over 12 t on federal highways
        http://articles.org.ru/cl/?p=18898
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 20 November 2015 12: 05
          33
          Quote: Good Me
          And this is how?

          And this is so - we are all stuck in the same gates .. the chain is nowhere simpler .. the carrier will add the price, the customer will invest it in the cost, the seller will compensate his profit, and as a result, WEEK You will leave the supermarket, etc. - everything is just a jump in inflation by 10 percent in one Dimon's "wise" decision ... (further applause turning into a standing ovation) angry
          1. Good me
            Good me 20 November 2015 12: 49
            +6
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            And this is so - we are all stuck in the same gates .. the chain is nowhere simpler .. the carrier will add the price, the customer will invest it in the cost, the seller will compensate his profit, and as a result, WEEK You will leave the supermarket, etc. - everything is just a jump in inflation by 10 percent in one Dimon's "wise" decision ... (further applause turning into a standing ovation)


            Star in shock yes .
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 20 November 2015 13: 01
              +4
              Quote: Good Me
              Star in shock

              Everything will be in shock after the New Year, to the stars in the eyes sad
          2. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 20 November 2015 17: 15
            +2
            I have already said for a long time that this Dimon cannot be allowed closer to the government than 100 kilometers, and not reward him for some kind of "achievement", as well as Nabiullina, who has very little to do with OSAGO.
        2. Cynic
          Cynic 20 November 2015 15: 13
          +6
          But to try to assume that this is a project of Russian Railways in any way?
          It’s surprising for me personally, how can delivery of cargo by a truck, for example, from Krasnodar to Siberia, be beneficial?
          There is clearly something with pricing. Here is Russian Railways and evens out the chances.
          wink
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 20 November 2015 15: 17
            +4
            Quote: Cynic
            But to try to assume that this is a project of Russian Railways in any way?

            No way, a car is more mobile on the small shoulder of the car than all star-pickers with shipping containers, getting on the goods - it’s easier to shoot themselves ... Railway logistics will kill any business, especially products - the most painful for the population
            1. Cynic
              Cynic 20 November 2015 15: 27
              0
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              on the small shoulder

              Yeah twelve-ton and heavier on small shoulder. wink
            2. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 20 November 2015 15: 38
              +2
              Quote: Cynic
              Yeah, twelve-ton and heavier on the small shoulder.

              I did not understand you, Example From Irkutsk to Chita it is cheaper and faster to send a truck with goods than to carry out all the procedures with Russian Railways - it is written above and all the long-distance logistics rests on this ..
            3. Cynic
              Cynic 20 November 2015 16: 40
              +3
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              it is written above and on this the inter-city logistics rests on everything ..

              What am I talking about?
              Quote: Cynic
              Here is Russian Railways and evens out the chances.

              After all, understand me correctly, intercity is intercity, but profitable transportation of cargo for 1 km by a heavy truck ... We do not have states with its highways. Here, something is definitely NOT.
              So it was decided that.
              hi
  • Angryvinny
    Angryvinny 20 November 2015 11: 53
    20
    And who said that we need to return them? Everyone understands that they do not have them. The task is to stop receipts from the IMF in case of default. Well, that's in theory. In practice, the "respected partners" not only receive from the IMF, but still have some discounts on gas, and banks with Russian capital are capitalizing on more. Therefore, these three billion, with a sensible direction, could be a good leverage. But under our "effective managerial" government, this will not happen. Well, except that Kiselev will have Temka))))) A month ago - we demand it completely, today - we will restructure it, a month later - they wrote it off and forgot (well, supposedly help in difficult conditions "dear partners", there is not enough money for shells) ...
    1. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 12: 21
      -4
      Quote: AngryVinny
      As of now, they have some kind of gas discounts, and banks with Russian capital will be capitalized.

      DO NOT GIVE DISCOUNTS AND SHUT OFF GAS?

      You are in the know. Is there a banking crisis or not? What to collapse them and yourself for your approval.
      Quote: AngryVinny
      Therefore, these three billion in the sensible direction could be a good lever.

      For example, how?

      Quote: AngryVinny
      A month ago - we demand it in full, today - we restructure it, a month later - we wrote it off and forgotten (well, like, help in difficult conditions to "respected partners", there is not enough money for shells)

      The proposal has been made, but so far no one has accepted it. If they don’t accept, we won’t see these 5 lard for at least XNUMX years.
      1. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 20 November 2015 15: 07
        +1
        Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
        The proposal has been made, but so far no one has accepted it. If they don’t accept, we won’t see these 5 lard for at least XNUMX years.


        We will never see them at all now.
  • alicante11
    alicante11 20 November 2015 13: 24
    +5
    Do you have an option to get three billion back?


    Yes, do not get them. When they were given, they understood that there would be no return. Roughly speaking, Crimea and Donbass were bought for these 3 lard. They wanted New Russia, but, apparently, it turned out to be not enough. However, does Crimea alone cost millions of times more than 3 lard of cut paper?
    1. alicante11
      alicante11 20 November 2015 15: 04
      +1
      However, does Crimea alone cost millions of times more than 3 lard of cut paper?


      Judging by the minus without comments, money is more important than the Crimea. The costs of capitalism.
  • ICT
    ICT 20 November 2015 16: 07
    0
    money issued in ireland. and toli debt twice toli three times reinsured
  • ava09
    ava09 20 November 2015 12: 03
    +3
    Quote: Nikolai S.
    By the way, soon the term for three billion. The question is, will the fascist junta give the killers another three billion?

    Rabbit said in plain text: "We will not pay." (C) The question is, will the fascist junta of murderers give another three billion? (C) What actions would you personally suggest?
  • Rusich is not from Kiev
    Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 12: 15
    12 th
    Quote: Nikolai S.
    It is possible that it was to what Strelkov was talking about that Surkov brought to New Russia.

    The first sectarian went.
  • ksan
    ksan 20 November 2015 12: 42
    13
    Behind Surkov - blablabla, demagoguery, and the efforts of the Jesuits to discredit opponents by abandoning themselves.
    It is quite possible that precisely to what Strelkov speaks, Surkov Novorossia brought
    And who is Surkov? Dark Lord ?, Gray Cardinal of the Kremlin ?, no respected, he is an official of the presidential administration. wink And that in this very administration he will be told that HE will do well, or the Darkness will directly instruct, and the Dark Lord said that "WE will not allow Donbas to be drowned in blood and let no one be tempted that this issue can be resolved by force" (not literally but close to the text laughing ) And what the Dark Lord said, I tend to believe more than the whining and speculation of ALL the others. If HE says: "... we will soak it in toilets" then we will soak it, if HE says "... we will not let the Donbas roll out", then we will not. And Strelkov's snot in Yu Tube is either a personal resentment that they pushed in, or an inept misinformation for the Ukropitheks. With all due respect to his merits, only the "festive skating rink" for Svidomo smeared with his snot Shooters, they are now on all sites pissing with boiling water for joy bully
    1. I am Russian
      I am Russian 20 November 2015 18: 05
      0
      Quote: ksan
      Behind Surkov - blablabla, demagoguery, and the efforts of the Jesuits to discredit opponents by abandoning themselves.
      It is quite possible that precisely to what Strelkov speaks, Surkov Novorossia brought
      And who is Surkov? Dark Lord ?, Gray Cardinal of the Kremlin ?, no respected, he is an official of the presidential administration. wink And that in this very administration he will be told that HE will do well, or the Darkness will directly instruct, and the Dark Lord said that "WE will not allow Donbas to be drowned in blood and let no one be tempted that this issue can be resolved by force" (not literally but close to the text laughing ) And what the Dark Lord said, I tend to believe more than the whining and speculation of ALL the others. If HE says: "... we will soak it in toilets" then we will soak it, if HE says "... we will not let the Donbas roll out", then we will not. And Strelkov's snot in Yu Tube is either a personal resentment that they pushed in, or an inept misinformation for the Ukropitheks. With all due respect to his merits, only the "festive skating rink" for Svidomo smeared with his snot Shooters, they are now on all sites pissing with boiling water for joy bully


      Do not drown in the blood ????????
      In November-December 2014, Nathaniel Rothschild (Jr.) flew to Moscow. Met with Surkov (Dudayev) and Dvorkovich. The question of the meeting: to prevent the financial system of Novorossiya from starting up. Dudayev is "his own people" who is well-known to the presidential administration.
  • evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 20 November 2015 13: 47
    +6
    Many, many questions ... It's about Strelkov, and you are about Surkov. Let the forum users of LDNR respond to the above passage Strelkova.
  • Cynic
    Cynic 20 November 2015 15: 07
    +1
    Quote: Nikolai S.
    Will the fascist junta give the killers another three billion ?.

    I do not recommend playing cards by candlelight. Distort clumsily, and candlesticks, they are heavy.
  • ancient
    ancient 20 November 2015 15: 20
    +3
    Quote: Nikolai S.
    The question is whether the fascist junta will give the killers another three billion ?.


    No question ..... first, already .. "presented" .. as well as "debts for gas" and .. "bad loans of the Savings Bank", which "successfully continues its activities in Ukraine" recourse

    Secondly .... what kind of .. "fascist junta of murderers"? ... I've heard about "colleagues, friends and partners who have a difficult economic situation ..." yes .... about "I asked if I could help you and ... "the same ..." about .. the brotherly people "... (which pulled the power line in front of the Crimea today), and before that the water canal was blocked ...), I heard that our ambassador there , there is also a representative office in Kiev .. "Pratsuet" and at the inauguration of "Parashenki" were well, and so on. etc.

    But about these very ones you can hear only on "urya-patriotic" TV programs, but in the internal media .. well, these are the ones for .. "people", but the rest .... only by the handle (left only in. . gums .. "clash") wassat
    1. Aleksandr1959
      Aleksandr1959 20 November 2015 15: 24
      +2
      Tough, but very accurate.
      1. Aleksandr1959
        Aleksandr1959 20 November 2015 15: 46
        0
        For minassators. My post was not about the article, but about the post the ancient
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 20 November 2015 18: 42
          0
          Quote: Aleksandr1959
          My message was not about the article, but about the message of an ancient

          So the disadvantages are precisely because of this, because ancient famous "mourner" from the category PUTINVSEKHSLIL laughing
          1. Aleksandr1959
            Aleksandr1959 20 November 2015 20: 10
            +4
            Ah ... well then you can put the cons further. I AM the ancient
            I support. A critical approach to assessing reality and the strong rejection of militant unprofessionalism have always distinguished the ancient for the better from a number of site users.
            You seem messages the ancient "automatically" minus without reading the message properly. wassat
            1. Aleksandr1959
              Aleksandr1959 20 November 2015 21: 03
              0
              And by the way about the birds, for your similar messages, I do not put cons. Well, if that's your point of view, what to do wassat Minus will not help here, but can only embitter a person.
            2. padded jacket
              padded jacket 20 November 2015 22: 30
              0
              Quote: Aleksandr1959
              And by the way about the birds, for your similar messages, I do not put cons

              Listen Alexander1959 absolutely does not matter to you at all, and also to the fact that you put me a plus or minus.
              Pluses and minuses are important only for people like you.
          2. padded jacket
            padded jacket 20 November 2015 22: 25
            -1
            Quote: Aleksandr1959
            I'm ancient
            support

            Yes, for God's sake there are a lot of crying and screaming.
            Quote: Aleksandr1959
            A critical approach to assessing reality and the strong rejection of militant unprofessionalism have always distinguished the ancient for the better from a number of site users.

            Well, as they say, the taste and color of no comrades smile
            If you like his opinion of the "fifth column" then who is stopping you in our country democracy? smile
            Quote: Aleksandr1959
            You seem to minus the messages of the ancient "machine" without reading the message plainly.

            Automatically belay Yes, I never read it exclusively in cases where it comes across as they say - by the arm.
          3. Aleksandr1959
            Aleksandr1959 21 November 2015 21: 42
            +1
            Quilted jacket
            Pluses and minuses are important only for people like you.

            Why did you decide this? Somehow, violet plus or minus will put me like you. There are people on this site whose opinion I respect. You, do not belong to them.

            Automatically belay and I never read it exclusively in cases when it comes across as they say - on hand.

            About which I wrote. Seeing the login ancient, You immediately put a minus, especially not understanding the essence of the message.
            Д
            but for God's sake there are a lot of mourners and screaming.

            Really the ancient I am not one of the mourners. A person possesses information, especially concerning military aviation, does not recognize militant unprofessionalism, and is critical of what is happening in the country (and that everything is so good and wonderful with us?). And by referring him to the "fifth column" you insult him. Do you at least give a definition of who belongs to the "fifth column", otherwise it will turn out that in addition to loudly shouting "hurray - patriotic" slogans, all the rest .... In the 90s, people like you shouted "Vote, or you will lose" in support of Yeltsin. So the true "fifth column" is you and others like you. Those who indiscriminately welcome any decisions of the authorities, without going into details of what they will bring to the country.
      2. The lead
        The lead 21 November 2015 06: 46
        0
        Putin
        They killed the Poor, the Brain, the attempt on Gubarev, the persecution of Strelkov: the mustache is good, the marquise, everything is fine, everything is fine.
  • alecsis69
    alecsis69 20 November 2015 16: 44
    0
    Well, actually, negotiations are underway for 3 billion. Putin said he was ready for an installment plan in the event of an IMF guarantee, any of the Western states or solid Western banks. So far, the IMF has refused to become a guarantor, and others are not in the queue for guarantors. One month left.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 20 November 2015 16: 53
      +4
      Quote: alecsis69
      One month left.

      No.
      The GDP said that the Russian Federation is specifically awaiting proposals until December, in connection with the rules of the financial relations mechanism.
      Maybe they will, but for now we are waiting for December.
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  • sober
    sober 20 November 2015 19: 48
    0
    ALREADY, ALL THE RESTRUCTURING ARE DECIDED. According to one liard since 2016.
    1. Cynic
      Cynic 20 November 2015 19: 56
      +2
      You need to read and listen to the full version of what was said, but the full version says that all this is under the guarantee of the West. At least the SGA, at least the IMF, is at least a bald one, but a money one, which will guarantee debt, in case of failure to pay Urkaina debt.
      Here is the second part, about guarantees, our media somehow forgot to bring it to the attention, but the first IMMEDIATELY and, wow, with such LETTERS on the front pages!
  • Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 20 November 2015 22: 05
    0
    Quote: Nikolai S.
    By the way, soon the term for three billion. The question is whether the fascist junta will give the killers another three billion ?.

    Unlikely to be a colleague. Today on Yandex published information on the recognition of the IMF debt of Ukraine to the state of Ukraine. So until the end of December the situation will be resolved by anyone, and after this recognition, our chances of returning are much greater. The only question is in what time frame.
  • Sid.74
    Sid.74 20 November 2015 12: 28
    +1
    It was Strelkov and became Girkin. negative
  • The lead
    The lead 20 November 2015 21: 19
    0
    So many insults to I. Strelkov and those who support him, admins are delighted, wow. Is it somehow different on the censor? No wonder, in fact, everything is quite logical. There are svidomo cheers, there are one the same style and methods, alas.
  • the most important
    the most important 22 November 2015 11: 50
    0
    Quote: Baikonur
    "Earned" a piece of fame! The well-known word-definition of V. Zhirinovsky suits him!

    And what prevents you from earning a "piece of fame" ??? Checker in hand and attack !!! Of course, one can not agree with everything, but he worries about what is happening with all his soul, and if necessary, his life ...
  • just exp
    just exp 20 November 2015 11: 25
    11 th
    I have long had the thought that he was a mishandled Cossack, who was not a hero in Slavyansk, but a provocateur from kaklov, before him no one decided on a real war. the war began with him. moreover, he exterminated not just kaklov, but there they utilized Maidan drugs, which would interfere with the new government. that is, the CIA killed two birds with one stone, started a war, got rid of drugs that could start a new maidan, and since Girkin is a citizen of Russia, Russia is declared an aggressor.
    1. Disant
      Disant 20 November 2015 13: 15
      +5
      But in the text of what you have said, do you have something to say?
      can anyone refute his words?
      about what has been said about the personnel: I think all this is present. and not on a small scale.
      because it’s like: it’s like he’s a great guy, adroit, he’s not stupid, he grasps everything on the fly. but instead of promedol in tubes - already water.
      and why is he so needed?
      1. Buffalo
        Buffalo 20 November 2015 14: 03
        -1
        Rather than reading custom articles that are regularly published here, it’s better to watch videos on Strelkov’s posts on YouTube. They are very saturated with information that you don’t recognize on TV - there is an informational vacuum, deathly silence. Except gum. convoys, they’re not talking about anything. Strelkov, on the other hand, cuts the truth, the uterus, he is a straight man. And unlike his opponents, he served in the FSB, fought as a volunteer in hot spots, even before the Donbass.
        Such people have passed rigorous checks; there is no reason to doubt his honesty.
        1. Alexl
          Alexl 20 November 2015 14: 46
          +3
          In addition to Strelkov, there are still a bunch of sources on the Internet. And what about his fsbeshno-combat past ..... Personally, I have more reason to trust his former ally Petrovsky, who is really a combat officer (since the days of Afghanistan), and not a fsbesh agent and who has a lot of ugly things about Strelkov’s activities in Slavyansk and Donetsk told.
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    3. Denis DV
      Denis DV 20 November 2015 13: 25
      -1
      I’ll add from myself that such statements are made on the eve of an invasion or provocation. This is a kind of marker of the beginning of the activation of the APU.
      1. Buffalo
        Buffalo 20 November 2015 14: 09
        -2
        You were a pioneer, a pioneer and you will die. - Another Pavlik Morozov.
        1. Denis DV
          Denis DV 20 November 2015 15: 05
          -1
          Pavlik Morozov, gee - by, it’s ridiculous to hear this from the litter of the CIA, a character from a can)))
  • Samaritan
    Samaritan 20 November 2015 11: 48
    +5
    Quote: 79807420129
    I’ll say a commonplace thing, I won’t be surprised if I see Girkin with a white ribbon in an embrace with Navalny on Bolotnaya Square, and it is the residents and militias of LDNR who should evaluate his words, not us.

    But this is hardly ... so that you understand the people standing behind him, too, and not just ...
    Here is the video (amateur):
    1. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 12: 23
      -8
      Quote: Samaritan
      But this is hardly ... so that you understand the people standing behind him, too, and not just ...
      Here is the video (amateur):

      Is this the people? WHY SO REQUEST THAT.
    2. Cynic
      Cynic 20 November 2015 15: 36
      0
      Movie 13:13, by chance?
      And yet, there is nothing finished yet, and this gentleman is already here.
      Neither condemn nor praise have any desire, I repeat _
      nothing is finished yet, and this gentleman is already here
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 20 November 2015 17: 42
        -1
        -2
        Hmm, I didn’t like someone, I’ll add ALREADY HERE FOR A LONG TIME !
        And with the name, respected by someone, Strelka only HEROIC DESTRUCTIONS remained in memory.
  • ksan
    ksan 20 November 2015 12: 17
    +4
    I won’t be surprised if I see Girkin with a white ribbon in an embrace with Navalny on Bolotnaya Square,
    Most likely it's just "the insult that they pushed in" fellow There was also a bunch of "dissenters and offended" in the swamp. Only the officer shouldn't smear snot on the camera, with all due respect to his former merits. hi
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    2. Samaritan
      Samaritan 20 November 2015 12: 46
      +5
      Resentment or not, but he continues to help Novorossiya, this is the Ghost Brigade

      Previously, I posted a video of the help of the orphanage, so let's judge by cases!
      1. ksan
        ksan 20 November 2015 13: 11
        +7
        Previously, I posted a video of the help of the orphanage, so let's judge by cases!
        He is not the only one helping, and there are many problems in the New Republics, but is this really an excuse to stick out YOURSELF, to trample the rest in shit ??
      2. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 22: 19
        0
        Quote: Samaritan
        Resentment or not, but he continues to help Novorossiya, this is the Ghost Brigade

        It is not he who personally helps, but people. Does he give his money there? Things should not be at odds with words or your deeds are just a show.
  • Buffalo
    Buffalo 20 November 2015 13: 53
    -4
    It seems that you do not understand politics at all.
    Your level is the third grade of elementary school.
  • The lead
    The lead 20 November 2015 14: 21
    +6
    I did not find anything criminal in the assessment of the current state of the militia by I. Strelkov. He has the necessary information and if he asserts something, then there are grounds for it. I alone have a feeling that no matter what I. Strelkov said, his words would be immediately criticized. If I would say that the militia is in excellent shape, well equipped, high morale and fighting spirit, highly professionally trained, then I would attribute the disclosure of state secrets and branded an enemy of the people. Remember how much squeal there was at the words of I. Strelkov about the lack of our military participation in Syria .Now, the intensity of air strikes has doubled, probably I. Strelkov was then still right. I now want to ask the admins, purely out of curiosity, will your attitude towards I. Strelkov change if VVP "notices" I. Strelkov, will grant him an audience, will present to a high award and in a solemn atmosphere will present it if I. Strelkov receives a high appointment? If your attitude changes, how will you justify the strange changes I am your relationship: at first you supported I. Strelkov, then began to criticize, and then again support?
    1. Fin
      Fin 20 November 2015 14: 59
      +2
      Hacking the truth of the uterus left and right, especially in the conditions of war in the Donbass, is not good. There are many people who know the situation inside LNR from the inside, but no one except them shit at their former colleagues. Doesn't it seem strange to you that Bezler and Bolotov are silent? These people have done no less than IIS, but they do not PR, do not throw anything at the fan. Or maybe he just craves fame, honors, recognition in the highest echelons of power?
      Quote: Lead
      Remember how much screeching there was to the words of I. Strelkov about the insufficiency of our military participation in Syria.

      Or maybe he squealed more in unison with his sidekick muridka?
      the most important thing is that the Syrian campaign is a clumsy attempt to "cover" the Donbas and start a "dialogue" on Crimea (according to my information, the fuss over the status of Crimea has already begun), "Strelkov wrote. According to him, the surrender of Crimea will be followed by the surrender of all of Russia "with predictable (negative) results."

      No need to grab from the interview what suits you.
      1. The lead
        The lead 20 November 2015 15: 39
        -4
        Quote: Fin
        Hacking the truth of the uterus left and right, especially in the conditions of war in the Donbass is not good
        Why did you get this? If the truth is good for the cause, then why should I. Strelkov be silent?
        Quote: Fin
        but besides him nobody shit on their former co-workers
        Are you really so naive, I think no one knows about the megatons of criticism that spill over on Strelkov, including his former associates? Wake up and return to reality.
        Quote: Fin
        but do not PR, do not throw anything at the fan
        Can you voice your political position? Maybe you are a ukronatsik whose task is to discredit I. Strelkov? Only an enemy of Russia can interpret the activities of I. Strelkov in this way.
        Quote: Fin
        Or maybe he squealed more in unison with his sidekick muridka?
        What is your rich vocabulary in the area expanded your horizons?
        Quote: Fin
        No need to grab from the interview what suits you.
        So far, in general, in the words of Strelkov, everything suits me.
        1. Fin
          Fin 20 November 2015 15: 52
          +2
          Quote: Lead
          Can you voice your political position? Maybe you are a ukronatsik whose task is to discredit I. Strelkov? Only an enemy of Russia can interpret the activities of I. Strelkov in this way.

          Quote: Lead
          What is your rich vocabulary in the area expanded your horizons?

          Kindergarten.
          1. The lead
            The lead 20 November 2015 17: 21
            -1
            Quote: Fin
            Kindergarten.
            Do you work as a kindergarten caretaker or nanny?
    2. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 22: 26
      0
      Quote: Lead
      I didn’t find anything criminal in assessing the current state of the militia by I. Strelkov. He has the necessary information and if he says anything, then there are reasons for this.

      Where did he get such info? I don’t read different LJs where people really maintain relations with fighters and take information from them everywhere they say the same thing - iron discipline, just a little kick in the ass, it’s already a turn in its place. People every day at the training ground. Yes, people have less motivation. than volunteers, but there is more discipline and self-conceit, as it should be in the army, they leave at home. The shooters simply lied or other fighters who really serve. I’m not sitting in Moscow.
      Quote: Lead
      I have one feeling that I. Strelkov would not say that his words were immediately criticized?

      Well, he will have your wife and you will say that everything is fine and you can’t criticize him. Just think of people who every day risk their lives with homeless people and alcoholics called, this is a trifle. But Girkin himself cannot be criticized, he is a cow.
      1. The lead
        The lead 21 November 2015 05: 23
        -1
        Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
        Where did he get such info?
        Shut your mouth, it stinks, with a cheer-patriotic sectarian stench. So you have to censor, to Svidomo cheer-patriots, to the same narrow-minded boors, Sharikov’s outfit, pursuing the real patriots of the Russian world.
  • Abakan
    Abakan 20 November 2015 11: 15
    +7
    Lord Sith answer ???
  • Good me
    Good me 20 November 2015 11: 20
    28
    Quote: sannych
    Are there residents of LDNR on the site? What will they say about these words? Something unusual for me is not from Ukrainian media, but from Strelkov to hear.


    Many residents of the LDNR, men who had previously registered on the site and visited it, were "cut out", including through the efforts of one of the authors of the article. Information field "cleared" ...

    Apparently I will not be mistaken if I name only one, more or less constantly appearing in VO, Donetsk resident - the Lord of the Sith ...
    He somehow still survived. Apparently because of its neutral-restrained position.
    From Lugansk, too, "small mala" ...

    About what is familiar or not familiar ... On the network, with reference to the statement of the high rank of Ukrainian intelligence made on the air of one of the Ukrainian television channels, information appeared that the DNI has an inspection by the General Staff of the Russian Federation, the task of which is is an assessment of the state of the DPR armed forces and their combat effectiveness.

    And in this case, I tend to believe ukroSMI ...

    What caused such an inspection? Perhaps preparing for the offensive? Or really, concern about the situation in individual units and the Armed Forces as a whole?

    Or did Strelkov make a deliberate disinformation injection in order to "lull" the intelligence of the junta?
    1. Vitaly11
      Vitaly11 20 November 2015 12: 04
      -7
      Quote: Good Me
      Or did Strelkov make a deliberate disinformation injection in order to "lull" the intelligence of the junta?

      if Ukrainians do stuffing, and Lackey !!! Zakharchenko paints everything in color pictures, how is everything okay here, should someone throw in the misinformation from the militias ???
      for example, on the net you will fully find information about drug addicts and wallowing goofs from the APU - dis! but in fact, in the Armed Forces of Ukraine for drinking alcoholic beverages they took very seriously, up to the ban on visiting villages.
      how, by the way, I can confirm that ISIS appeared in the ranks of the Terb. battalions. Last week, casualties from the Armed Forces of Ukraine in the number of 5 people of the 200s appeared, such as from shelling. In fact, they were cut uphill at a checkpoint at night, this is from the words of the VSUshnikov themselves (!), The checkpoint is located 80 km from Donetsk ..
      1. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 12: 34
        0
        Quote: Vitaliy11
        , in the network you will fully find information about drug addicts and wallowing goofs from the APU - dis! and in fact, in the Armed Forces of Ukraine for drinking alcoholic beverages they took very seriously, up to the ban on visiting villages

        Why are you carrying that lad. Every week, APU warriors have an accident or a drunken brawl. And no one can overcome it.

        Quote: Vitaliy11
        if Ukrainians do stuffing, and Kholuy !!! Zakharchenko paints everything in color pictures, how is everything okay here, should someone throw in the misinformation from the militias ???

        What side does Girkin take for the militia now? In addition to sectarians, no one took him seriously for a long time. Well, if Zahar lackeys, then Shooters holu..ichik. Zakhar on Vova works, and Shooter on Malafey))

        Quote: Vitaliy11
        In fact, they were cut uphill at a checkpoint at night, this is from the words of the VSUshnikov themselves (!), The checkpoint is located 80 km from Donetsk ..

        How can you confirm? Slovaks people who are interested party?)

        Take the barbariska.
        1. Vitaly11
          Vitaly11 20 November 2015 14: 15
          0
          Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev

          Why are you carrying that lad. Every week, APU warriors have an accident or a drunken brawl. And no one can overcome it.

          it’s better to know that the sofa bullshit is better than I’m in the right place, tear the point off the sofa and show me at least one accident that has occurred with the participation of the Armed Forces over the past couple of months
          Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
          How can you confirm? Slovaks people who are interested party?)

          and I don’t have to prove anything, to confirm.
          I repeat if it doesn’t come, tear off the point from the sofa, and I’ll drive bullshit about some interested "Slovaks, people", not
          Quote: Rusich not from Kiev
          Well, if Zahar lackeys, then Shooters holu..ichik. Zahar on Vova works

          you still wise up how Zakhar Lvov took!

          Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
          Take the barbariska

          shove it in your oop
          1. Rusich is not from Kiev
            Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 22: 32
            +1
            Quote: Vitaliy11
            it’s better to know that the sofa bullshit is better than I’m in the right place, tear the point off the sofa and show me at least one accident that has occurred with the participation of the Armed Forces over the past couple of months

            Take a look at YouTube warrior of light. It’s you who are so brave, and you still haven’t erased the trousers after Debali.
            Quote: Vitaliy11
            and I don’t have to prove anything, to confirm.
            I repeat if it doesn’t come, tear off the point from the sofa, and I’ll drive bullshit about some interested "Slovaks, people", not

            You assert to you and prove, and I will tear your point at once for two warriors .. In which boiler of bloomers obd.ris.tal?

            Quote: Vitaliy11
            you still wise up how Zakhar Lvov took!

            He cooked three cauldrons from nedovoinov ukro and if Uncle Vova did not play politics you would not have the spirit in the Donbass.
            Quote: Vitaliy11
            shove it in your oop

            Not vital, it is you who have everything undermined there, your fate is like that.
    2. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 12: 28
      +2
      Quote: Good Me
      Or did Strelkov make a deliberate disinformation injection in order to "lull" the intelligence of the junta?

      Well done, take barbarisk whitewashed paskud.stvo.
      Quote: Good Me
      Many residents of the LDNR, men who had previously registered on the site and visited it, were "cut out", including through the efforts of one of the authors of the article. The information field is "cleared" ..

      LJ give you the address where the inhabitants of LDNR a lot? What is the correct opinion for you?
      Quote: Good Me
      And in this case, I tend to believe ukroSMI ...

      No one doubted that))
  • Skif83
    Skif83 20 November 2015 11: 45
    38
    And, in fact, what is he (Girkin) wrong?
    What there nariks in volunteers are present? They are, and this is not from the words of Girkin.
    What is alcoholism thriving?
    So, too, is no secret.
    That paramilitary dealers use the situation to enrich themselves?
    So it is true.
    That they cannot survive without the help of Russia!
    What is he wrong about?
    Let's just say that Girkin is not a very pretty person, but he also did his job. Someone picked up men with double-barreled shotguns.
    To understand who is right and who is sick, you need to know the situation from the inside, as they say, first-hand.
    And no one was worried that healthy men on the zombie bastard were waiting for Russian volunteers? And when were refugees shown with 6x9 faces?
    Are there many real native fighters, not militias, but fighters? May God grant 50 percent of the belligerents, and the belligerents in relation to the militia, sitting at checkpoints in general, 10 percent.

    Well, please tell me, if the people (not all, of course, but the majority) do not want to fight for their land, as he says, then why blame Girkin? If the whole Donbass had revolted, as they want to imagine, our flags would have flown over Kiev long ago.
    I will make a reservation, honestly, I hate dill, since the days of the Union. They, especially "zapadentsy", and then bred such rotten stuff. So I don't pour water on their mill.
    But the situation is still stalemate. And Girkin has nothing to do with it.
    1. mike_z
      mike_z 20 November 2015 12: 16
      +4
      Quote: Skif83
      if the people (not all, of course, but the majority) do not want to fight for their land, as he says,


      Look at the roots! Look at the "refugees" - healthy men! And who will fight for their land? So we (Russia) help the minority, and the majority consists of those who do not want to see us there + of those who “do not care”. Is it correct? My friend there fought as a volunteer for 4 months (not for free, of course), unfortunately, he said the same thing. But now I have no right to evaluate them b / d, of course.
    2. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 12: 38
      +3
      Quote: Skif83
      Well, please tell me, if the people (not all, of course, but the majority) do not want to fight for their land, as he says, then why blame Girkin?

      This is unfounded all. Few people want to fight a civil war with us, and the BCH is a completely voluntary army, unlike the Armed Forces. They fight as much as needed and the losses are quickly covered by local men.

      Yes, you don’t need to nod at him, but take the VSN unit by the scruff of his neck and bring to the Donbass centuries and let him tell them and show the homeless there. Only he does not have the spirit to come there and tell them in the eye.
    3. ksan
      ksan 20 November 2015 12: 52
      -1
      I will make a reservation, honestly, I hate dill, since the days of the Union. They, especially "zapadentsy", and then bred such rotten stuff. So I don't pour water on their mill.
      But the situation is still stalemate. And Girkin has nothing to do with it.
      Yes, even if he is right, what is the meaning of these "Truthful snot" ?? Crap Novorossiya? or to show himself as the Guardian of Donbass and the rest of the Kremlin's inappropriate lackeys ??
    4. Valentine
      Valentine 20 November 2015 13: 54
      16
      I largely disagree with you, Skiff. Who told you that there is total drunkenness and drug addiction? I spent almost a year and a half there under bombing and shelling.
      that horror has seen and I know, not by hearsay, the whole local situation. The DPR army, as the army took place, is strict, harsh, clear, ranked discipline, violation of which is strictly punished, any misconduct can lead to shameful dismissal. About 80% of militias -
      locals, miners, teachers, engineers, workers, students, many women, even entire families ... Why did they go to the militia, and why are they fighting? You know about the brutal killings of Crimeans on February 20, 2014 near Korsun-
      Shevchenkovsky? It happened a day before the coup. More than 40 people were killed there, more than 70 people were injured and about 30 people were missing. Yes, for the fact that they wanted to speak and think in their native Russian language. About the Odessa "Khatyn" on May 2, 2014, everyone now knows, but not 40 people died there, as the ukroSMI puts it, but about 200 Russian children. Russians died in Mariupol on May 9, 2014, no one really knows. That is why Donbass rose up, stood up to defend its land, to defend its families, its old people, to defend its Motherland, so that
      our land did not repeat the maidan apocalypse ...
      Or is this not enough for you? And now I want to ask you, dear Skif, who arranged and defeated
      army in Izvarinsky, Ilovaysky, Debaltsevsky, DAPovsky coppers? Drunkards and drug addicts? Who now holds the defense-drunks and drug addicts at the front? Who is cleaning up after the next bombing in the destroyed cities of LDNR? Who, under shelling, is repairing water pipelines. Gas pipelines, boiler rooms, electrical substations, destroyed houses, schools, hospitals? Who now, under shelling, treats sick and wounded? Who now produces coal, works on machines, bakes bread, makes
      sowing season? This makes the simple, Russian people, and those who consider themselves Russian, and the overwhelming majority are here. Here the war brought people together, taught mutual assistance and mutual assistance, taught together to endure and endure hardships and deprivations, without heat, without light,
      without water, in difficult times, everyone helped and are helping each other. Since April, the LDNR authorities began to pay pensions, salaries, benefits, although with delays, but still ... Life is slowly getting better ... Yes, there are many healthy men among refugees, but not so , and this is their choice, although there are different situations, small children, elderly parents, and they need to be fed. And how they will come back and look into the eyes of those who have not gone anywhere is their business ... And about Girkin. He, the person is not unique. Someone considers him a hero, admires him, someone considers him an adventurer in a sword belt, a kind of headquarters captain of tsarist times, but he did his work, raised the people,
      but leaderism never brought anything good, as did the cult of personality. What came to mind "pop Gapon" from our history, are there any analogues?
    5. Kite
      Kite 20 November 2015 18: 07
      +1
      Quote: Skif83
      What is alcoholism thriving?
      So, too, is no secret.

      Of course it’s no secret. Especially on friday fellow
      And among the local forum users, you can put together a large team of lovers of evil (hard) to use.
      I can’t be sure that the forum users who didn’t drink at all served in intelligence.
      What does Girkin's "intelligence" have to do with it?
    6. Buffalo
      Buffalo 20 November 2015 19: 33
      +2
      Strelkov speaks the truth that his opponents fear. Reasonably object to him in an honest argument, they can not. Here, and shit on him stealthily.
      Any of the local bribe-tellers and admins, Strelkov, a well-educated colonel, WILL BE SHUT UP FOR THE BELT!
  • dr. sem
    dr. sem 20 November 2015 11: 49
    +1
    Nothing is impossible in life ... There are many examples. So, do not react sharply negatively to Girkin’s words ... Maybe (?) Is he somewhere right ???
  • ksan
    ksan 20 November 2015 12: 11
    10
    sannych (2) SU Today, 10:56 ↑
    Are there residents of LDNR on the site? What will they say about these words? Something unusual for me is not from Ukrainian media, but from Strelkov to hear.
    So already on "their" sites they say, I'll put it mildly from "bewilderment" to "turned down". laughing But Svidomity "piss with boiling water" from voostorg. I also do not understand what is the meaning of these "revelations"? Resentment that they "pushed", removed from decision-making? "Convince" the Ukropitheks that Novorossia is easy to take in order to provoke a new slaughter? To show himself as a "True patriot" who is the only one who knows how to build a new army of the DPR and LPR ?? With all due respect to Strelkov's former merits, why are these snot under the camera? fellow
    1. Valentine
      Valentine 20 November 2015 14: 11
      +3
      Shortly before the Ilovaysky boiler, somewhere in June-July 2014
      , Strelkov began talking about the deplorable state in the army
      LDNR, that there are few weapons, ammunition, equipment, general drunkenness, homeless people-
      drug addicts, in short he said that "everything was lost", and then there was
      the complete defeat of the Ukrainian army near Izvarino and Ilovaysk ... Tricky tactical move with the subsequent strategic generation of ukrov?
  • Rusich is not from Kiev
    Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 12: 13
    +1
    Quote: sannych
    Something unusual for me is not from Ukrainian media, but from Strelkov to hear.

    Unusual? Yes, he has been saying this for a year now. Scha sectarians will meinous again, and Girkin will be acquitted)))
    1. Good me
      Good me 20 November 2015 12: 52
      -1
      Quote: Rusich is not from Kiev
      Scha sectarians will meinous again, and Girkin will be acquitted)))


      All the "sectarians", without exception?

      Not a classic phrase: "What's in the MINUS, you, mine?"
      1. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 14: 02
        0
        Quote: Good Me
        All the "sectarians", without exception?

        So it’s not my fault that you are sectarians. Imagine that such words would be said by Surkov or Zakhar, but they would have been mixed with shit ... but then Girkin’s meannesses still found excuses. Sectarians.
  • Samaritan
    Samaritan 20 November 2015 12: 18
    +7
    I will add for completeness:
  • Greta
    Greta 20 November 2015 13: 53
    -1
    We believed Strelkov, believed. that Ponamarev is a traitor, and so he has powdered our brains. And he just leaked Slavyansk. When I drove through Slavyansk in August 2014, returning from Moscow to my LPR, I was in shock: the city was safe, a few hits were all in the center, Ukraine would not have rebuilt the city in such a short time if it had been so destroyed as Strelkov told, that means his dill, they needed to start a war and thanks to him it turned out for a long time, because handed over which territories and how many children were killed thanks to his treacherous actions.
  • RRR
    RRR 20 November 2015 14: 02
    +8
    Well, how can you "explain on your fingers"?
    Nowhere to work in Lugansk - everything is worth it. The only way to earn money is to join the militia (now the people's militia). There is a ration, there is a monetary allowance. There are so many sellers on the market that there is nowhere to put new ones. Therefore, prices are also rising.
    So what? And the fact that the army is standing without use decomposes!
    What people doing service should defend the shift, eat, sleep, defend the shift ... And at home you can watch the telly after work ... You won’t take the telly with you in the trench / dugout, but if you take it, it will take you to the DRG like the two Kiev now.
    What should peasants do in such a cold without women? Take a bottle for sugare and take turns without getting drunk on the shift slowly ...
    But many came from a citizen lovers to puff or roll a wheel or play with a machine ...
    Does everyone understand? Or are there stubborn couch strategists with high morale? Then smoke bamboo
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  • SHAKESPEARE
    SHAKESPEARE 20 November 2015 16: 40
    +1
    Let those who are directly related to the LC of the LC and the DNR speak for us. It is better for them, on places, to judge how much they correspond to what Girkin said in their address.
  • Sailor
    Sailor 20 November 2015 17: 07
    +1
    To my great regret, Strelkov didn’t come up with anything that he said, my friend lives in Lugansk and when he came to me he told me how things are going. Our vacationers and ideological ones are fighting, there are also foreigners, local people are inert and there are few who go to war. Alcohol and drug addiction is a scourge not only of the Armed Forces of Ukraine but also of the LDNR soldiers, and the dill forces have accumulated a lot, regrouped and if you didn’t intervene in 2014 at the time of the X Russian Federation (then there were no casualties on our part, now the Armed Forces are already shelled and their brains are soiled I’m grieving) that LDNR will not withstand the onslaught of 5-7 times superiority. And then a friend told me: We will be pi ... c.
  • anfil
    anfil 20 November 2015 18: 47
    -1
    I don’t know what the inhabitants of LDNR will say, but a good discussion of his statement here:http://cont.ws/post/150294

    Excerpt from the article:

    <...> In addition, Girkin here not only speaks about the militia, we quote: "there can be no healthy army in a sick society." That is, Girkin's picture of the world is as follows:

    The people of Donbass (society) are sick and cannot have a healthy army. Because the army of Donbass came into "complete collapse and decomposition" and consist of drug addicts, alcoholics ("general drunkenness, wildest drug addiction") and "outright homeless people". That is, "trash". The only way to put things in order is the “laws of war”, as under Girkin, who at one time was able to discipline these “drug addicts, alcoholics and homeless people”.

    PS And we can't even say that this is the language of the whites who despised the people. Yes, the whites despised the people. But at the same time, they still kept a certain level and SO did not go down. What we see today is not whites - these are reenactors playing with whites ["frank bums - trash"]. <...>
  • Vend
    Vend 20 November 2015 10: 56
    -2
    Girkin is not a politician, but a military strategist. I may be wrong, but it seems to me it's just a military trick. The constant shelling of the peaceful cities of the Armed Forces of Ukraine tired everyone. However, the APU is afraid to advance, remembering the previous boilers. They need to be provoked, directly violate the Minsk agreements. Namely, to force the troops to move. This is what they are doing.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 20 November 2015 11: 09
      11
      Quote: Wend
      military strategist

      Rather, tactics.
    2. Mhpv
      Mhpv 20 November 2015 11: 31
      -3
      Quote: Wend
      I may be wrong, but it seems to me it's just a military trick

    3. Good me
      Good me 20 November 2015 11: 31
      +8
      Quote: Wend
      They need to be provoked, directly violate the Minsk agreements. Namely, to force the troops to move. This is what they are doing.


      You know ... More recently, on one of the resources associated with VO, there was an article of some Ukrainian
      "humanitarian" about exactly the same situation in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the "battalions", they say, "things are dumb, the boys are thumping," the moral PUK has fallen ... "

      Here is such a "transfer of information" from both sides ...
      1. Vend
        Vend 20 November 2015 13: 35
        -3
        Quote: Good I
        Quote: Wend
        They need to be provoked, directly violate the Minsk agreements. Namely, to force the troops to move. This is what they are doing.


        You know ... More recently, on one of the resources associated with VO, there was an article of some Ukrainian
        "humanitarian" about exactly the same situation in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the "battalions", they say, "things are dumb, the boys are thumping," the moral PUK has fallen ... "

        Here is such a "transfer of information" from both sides ...

        And I for what. hi
      2. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 14: 12
        -3
        Quote: Good Me
        Ukrainian
        "humanitarian" about exactly the same situation in the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the "battalions", they say, "things are dumb, the boys are thumping", the moral PUK has fallen ..

        So they really thump. Every week is a murder. then a car accident, then warehouses explode, then a video with heroes drunk in the trash. This is printed by Ukrainian media with facts.

        Does Girkin have at least one video? You are a good sectarian. good cover for dad.
    4. Per se.
      Per se. 20 November 2015 12: 08
      +9
      Quote: Wend
      However, the APU is afraid to advance, remembering the previous boilers. They need to be provoked, directly violate the Minsk agreements.
      The attention of Russia, as well as considerable forces are now thrown on Syria. Fresh news.
      On November 20 at a joint meeting of the State Duma and the Federation Council of the Russian Federation it is planned to raise the question of the possibility of conducting a ground operation of Russian troops in Syria. This was reported by "URA.Ru" a senior source in "United Russia", without specifying the format of the discussion. Representatives of other parties are ready to support this idea. Including the State Duma deputy from the Liberal Democratic Party, Vladimir Taskaev, told URA.Ru: “I assume that this issue has matured. IG (banned in Russia) must be deprived of the opportunity to trade stolen oil, knocking economic ground out from under their feet. ” According to the parliamentarian, most of his colleagues will support the proposal to send troops to Syria. Today, LDPR leader Vladimir Zhirinovsky will meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin. It is possible that they will discuss the military issue. The deputy from "United Russia" Alexander Petrov does not have information about the beginning of the ground operation. But he says that at the joint meeting "various options for the fight against terrorism anywhere in the world will be discussed." “We need to see how these actions will be combined with international law. Relatives of the dead passengers of the blown up Russian liner should know that the state will do everything to prevent a recurrence of such a catastrophe, ”the legislator notes.
      If a ground operation begins, Russia will be drawn into the war over Syria. At this time, the United States and NATO are quietly preparing and arming Bandera. On the border with Crimea, an accumulation of ukrovoysk has already been outlined, troops are being pulled together to the borders of the republics of Donbass, in violation of all agreements, shelling began again. So think, in vain Igor Vselodovich says something or not. Perhaps he is wrong about something, humanly, but he is definitely not an enemy of Russia. To look here at the positions of some "weathercocks" that recently sang hosanna to Igor, frankly speaking, is disgusting. A person is worthy of respect, enough to pour dirt on him. It will soon become clear who is right, events in Ukraine and events in Syria will show this.
      1. twviewer
        twviewer 20 November 2015 13: 16
        -5
        Quote: Per se.
        It will soon become clear who is right

        to whom it is clear? here people pronounce words whose meaning they do not understand
        clapped their hands a little with happiness without sobbing, and here again :)
        .
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 20 November 2015 13: 33
        +2
        If the ground operation begins, Russia will be drawn into the war for Syria. At this time, the United States and NATO are quietly preparing and arming Bandera


        There will be no large formations of our troops in Syria. Because supplying them there is problematic. There is no land border, but by sea and by air we don’t import so much, not the USSR after all. Maybe good. The maximum that can be - SPN and artillery group of the division level for artillery support in the main directions. So this contingent will not affect the combat effectiveness of our troops in the Crimea and on the border with New Russia.
      3. Valentine
        Valentine 20 November 2015 15: 34
        +4
        Dear Per se! In the Donbass, the shelling did not stop, believe me, an eyewitness. And about the accumulation of Ukrainian troops, be it immeasurable there, but there is no sense from them. To advance heavy equipment, tanks, self-propelled guns, very good roads are needed, and there are very few of them in Ukraine , and those that are, will not withstand the weight of 46 tons of a T-72 tank with a bk, and even more so a self-propelled gun. There, mainly black soil and arable land, moved off the road and got stuck. And the main roads in the LPNR are all shot and mined, so there is a big problem with the lightning offensive of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and they still have four "cauldrons" before their eyes - Izvarinsky, Ilovaisky DAPovsky and Debaltsevsky. But if they are suicides, then .....
      4. Tuxuu
        Tuxuu 20 November 2015 22: 17
        0
        You just touch me, who in general came up with this "distract" ???? You are talking about the state, about the whole apparatus! This is not one person whom you can chat about at that moment while the second pulls out the victim's wallet ... So naive ... no one forgets anything and I am sure that reports on every bunch of Khokhlostan are coming up
    5. Niki
      Niki 20 November 2015 13: 01
      -3
      Bastard he, not a strategist
      1. Niki
        Niki 20 November 2015 13: 13
        -2
        And complement. He is not just a Bastard, but much worse - media and variety!
    6. ksan
      ksan 20 November 2015 13: 16
      +4
      Wend (2) RU Today, 10: 56 ↑
      Girkin is not a politician, but a military strategist
      STRATEG - don't tell my horseshoes laughing This is pure water POLICY, or rather PR for your beloved. hi
      1. Vend
        Vend 20 November 2015 13: 37
        0
        Quote: ksan
        Wend (2) RU Today, 10: 56 ↑
        Girkin is not a politician, but a military strategist
        STRATEG - don't tell my horseshoes laughing This is pure water POLICY, or rather PR for your beloved. hi

        Do you even understand what I wrote? They quickly forgot what Girkin did in the Donbass.
    7. Rusich is not from Kiev
      Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 14: 06
      0
      Quote: Wend
      . I may be wrong, but it seems to me it's just a military trick.

      What is the trick? Call the people who fought and are now ready to fight drunks and drug addicts? None of the military listens to Girkin because he has long been nobody, but propagandists are very much. In fact, what Girkin said is called meanness.
  • Vladimyrych
    Vladimyrych 20 November 2015 11: 21
    10
    Lord, what's the secret? The White Guard was removed from command (the only secret who removed). And it thought that without it a crocodile would not be able to catch and would not grow a coconut. But it turned out that the crocodile was caught and the coconut was gaining weight. That took ushlepka resentment. How so? Yes, all this without me!
    No wonder. The usual selling dog which carriage.
    1. AUL
      AUL 20 November 2015 11: 39
      24
      Actually, this "White Guard" and "corrupt dog" fought in the Donbass during the most difficult times for the LPR / DPR. And he fought well. And you have 2 questions:
      1. Why is he a "corrupt dog"? Has he betrayed someone? Whom?
      2. And where were you at the time when he fought there?
      1. Vladimyrych
        Vladimyrych 20 November 2015 11: 49
        -2
        Quote: AUL
        Why is he a "corrupt dog"?

        And you compare his performances in time. Everything is clear there as twice as four.
        Generally extremely strange. Nobody knew the gentleman and nobility, and here the media figure ... Doesn’t it bother you?
        Quote: AUL
        And where were you at the time when he fought there?

        I was in my place. And it’s not your business where exactly and what you did.
        With regard to the "field marshal".
        You very well seem to know whose interests he represented. And how much he washed, representing these interests.
      2. ArcanAG
        ArcanAG 20 November 2015 12: 14
        -8
        He betrayed the inhabitants of Donbass, who followed him.
        When he leaked half of the territory (along with the families of people who trusted him) and tried to merge the remaining half (here he was sent for why field commanders, including his subordinates).
        After he was removed from the Donbass, he craps to the best of his ability in the media space.
      3. EwgenyZ
        EwgenyZ 20 November 2015 12: 22
        16
        AUL
        Actually, this "White Guard" and "corrupt dog" fought in the Donbass during the most difficult times for the LPR / DPR. And he fought well.


        An interesting situation: a year and a half ago, everything "VO" was "splashing" with love for Strelkov. And the "strategist" Kurginyan appeared, with an automatic device in the background, and "darling" rushed. And now not Strelkov, but Girkin. And not a Hero of Novorossiya, but a "corrupt dog", and so on. etc. And they also say that Ukrainians have a short memory.
        1. Niki
          Niki 20 November 2015 13: 06
          -2
          Let both shut up both Kurginyan and Girkin. Both arranged and very successful sects in the media space and claims to be the leaders of a global scale.
        2. Vladimyrych
          Vladimyrych 20 November 2015 15: 40
          0
          Well, if you bring my thought, quoting it then answer me.
          See when I registered on the site. I was not here when
          everything "IN" "splashed" with love for Strelkov
          .
          Moreover, I do not approve at all of everything that happened in LDNR with the advent of Girkin and beyond.
          I, too, seriously fell for the charm of the "field marshal" but it quickly dawned on me. Even while he was in Slavyansk. One man opened his eyes. And for me he is a "corrupt dog". There is not a small handful of facts about this.
          I never listened to Kurginyan. Once on the Internet, like in the year 2011-12. Not impressed.
        3. Rusich is not from Kiev
          Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 15: 40
          +1
          Quote: EwgenyZ
          An interesting situation: a year and a half ago, everything "VO" was "splashing" with love for Strelkov. And the "strategist" Kurginyan appeared, with an automatic device in the background, and "darling" rushed. And now not Strelkov, but Girkin. And not a Hero of Novorossiya, but a "corrupt dog", and so on. etc. And they also say that Ukrainians have a short memory.

          Now, if you loving husband blew dust off from her, brought money, and then suddenly, because of jealousy, you beat your wife and posted her erotic photos on the net, should you be well treated for your old merits?

          Although of course you can be a sucker. it's your business.
      4. Denis DV
        Denis DV 20 November 2015 15: 34
        +4
        Where did he fight? He is an imposter! Neh in the hero to record camouflage fashion models posing in a warehouse and somewhere near the kitchen!
      5. Rusich is not from Kiev
        Rusich is not from Kiev 20 November 2015 15: 36
        +2
        Quote: AUL
        Actually, this "White Guard" and "corrupt dog" fought in the Donbass during the most difficult times for the LPR / DPR. And he fought well.

        No one fought besides him? Strelkova was not the largest unit and non-shooters kept Saur-Mohyla, Shatersk, Gorlovka, Lugansk
        Quote: AUL
        1. Why is he a "corrupt dog"? Has he betrayed someone? Whom?

        He betrayed with his statements his fellow soldiers, the people who fought and are fighting for the Donbass. He ordered the surrender of Gorlovka and Donetsk and thereby betrayed all the living and the dead.
        Quote: AUL
        2. And where were you at the time when he fought there?

        What is this question? Each person is always in place. What will you outlaw Strelka as a Ukrainian, just because he fought?
    2. Angryvinny
      Angryvinny 20 November 2015 12: 08
      +3
      Crocodile caught where? And what kind of coconut is growing?
      Probably caught all the crocodiles from Kharkov to Odessa? And coconuts bloom in Mariupol under the canopy of the Soviet standards.
      Oh yeah, two bits of two areas remained ... Well, they are part of a single and indivisible ...
      Soon they will pass the border ... Or maybe they themselves will reach ...
      And then all the local brethren will say - "Oh, how did it happen, because crocodiles were caught, coconut was earing, and now Russians are being slaughtered a few kilometers from Rostov-on-Don? Fu, praaativny kakly, how did it happen that they violated the Minsk practices? , after all, they must be observed. I will tell maaame .... whimper-whine-whine "
      1. Vladimyrych
        Vladimyrych 20 November 2015 12: 11
        0
        Excuse me, where did all this heresy come across? belay
        From the vyser video of the "field marshal"? laughing I do not intend to discuss them.
        But ... In the meantime, I remind you that Vladimir Putin suggested postponing the referendums to LDNR in 2014 ... Remember? So you draw conclusions! laughing
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 20 November 2015 12: 59
          +4
          Quote: Vladimir
          Vladimir Putin proposed to postpone the referendum in LDNR 2014 year ... Remember?

          And at the same time, Kiev declared that LDNR is doing everything according to the direction of the GDP, and not at all an independent independent association. And what did they do? Do not hold a referendum - confirm the statement of Kiev, hold - go against the GDP.
      2. your1970
        your1970 20 November 2015 12: 29
        +3
        and the population of what is waiting for two bits? when the Russian Federation in Kiev starts shelling? It won’t wait .... Sami, only by themselves, with their own pens they must, as it may sound strange ....
        1. Vladimyrych
          Vladimyrych 20 November 2015 12: 41
          +2
          Quote: your1970
          Themselves, only themselves, with their own pens should

          It doesn't sound bad good
          With our help, take your time. And the water wears away the stone.
        2. mike_z
          mike_z 20 November 2015 13: 03
          +2
          Quote: your1970
          it may sound strange ....

          Absolutely not strange it sounds! With your own pens in the first place, and only then, when your pens will be at least 70 percent, you can talk about our pens.
        3. mike_z
          mike_z 20 November 2015 13: 03
          0
          Quote: your1970
          it may sound strange ....

          Absolutely not strange it sounds! With your own pens in the first place, and only then, when your pens will be at least 70 percent, you can talk about our pens.
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  • Bobxnumx
    Bobxnumx 20 November 2015 11: 44
    -2
    Girkin is a mishandled Cossack. There are more questions than answers.
  • His
    His 20 November 2015 12: 19
    10 th
    You can recognize the traitor immediately.
    Vlasov, too, at the beginning was a hero and seemed to be like Stalin's favorite.
  • theadenter
    theadenter 20 November 2015 16: 58
    0
    I think that he merges himself by someone’s order. To destroy the idea of ​​New Russia.
    Or maybe he merges into the trust of the opposition - well, that’s it, bold thoughts.

    He promised to fight with the fifth column.
    Do not scold him yet. what
  • GRAY
    GRAY 20 November 2015 10: 51
    16
    The apologist for the patriotic Maidan is slowly approaching the level of Navalny.
    I already wrote once that I would not be surprised if I saw him in a single formation with the white-tape scum.
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 20 November 2015 10: 59
      15
      In my opinion, on the basis of his "significance" the roof began to go! How could we, in the person of Igor Strelkov, not have another liberalist and fighter against the "totalitarian regime"!
      1. Homo
        Homo 20 November 2015 11: 21
        +4
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        In my opinion, on the basis of his "significance" the roof began to go!

        Here, here, the unrecognized "Napoleon". And how quickly he grew the mammon, just like a real "sofa" strategist.
      2. just exp
        just exp 20 November 2015 11: 26
        +3
        or was he from the very beginning?
      3. todhunter
        todhunter 20 November 2015 12: 04
        +7
        And that we do not have a totalitarian regime dusted with a thin film of democracy?
        Despite all the successes in foreign policy, inside everything is oh how sad.
        The generals are still stealing, one cottage on Rublevka of the Hero of Russia and the Knight of the Malta Cross Shoigu is worth it. Trucking strikes across the country. I have a neighbor in the front trucker, a man of 55 years washed down. You can’t buy transponders, but a fine went to the floor.
        My wife works in kindergarten, Rosobrnadzor loaded up so many pieces of educators that there was no time to deal with children before writing instructions on how to comb children, otherwise she will not be able to comb her hair over 35 years of work without this fucking important piece of paper, and responsibility has increased earlier in recent years in the group of 15 children, now 30. Carers began to quit en masse. I’m doing business myself, but here it takes terrible things from bright prospects - all the clients, and they are all engaged in production for me - everyone has one and all, compared to 13, production volumes fell significantly.
        And who in the Duma in our country spoke about this or did they simply raise these topics on the central channels and ask about the consequences of such an internal policy?
        I am not a supporter of Navalny, but here, as you say about the shortcomings within the country, they will immediately write "Urya-patriots" into the liberals
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 20 November 2015 12: 28
          14
          Alexei, where did I write that everything is fine in our country ?! I myself work as an economist in production, and I know the situation in the economy by hearsay! The question is different, why did Strelkov suddenly decide that he should be listened to and that he knows better than others how to manage Russia ?!
        2. assam4
          assam4 20 November 2015 12: 50
          0
          And who in the Duma in our country spoke about this or did they simply raise these topics on the central channels and ask about the consequences of such an internal policy?


          At a time when our aerospace forces plow the heavenly space of Syria, only real liberalists can talk about the state of the Russian economy ...
        3. Travian
          Travian 20 November 2015 12: 58
          -5
          he regretted the trucker - they earn tens of thousands of clean on average for the flight, and he is sorry to pay a couple of thousand. that's why he washed it down, that "chopping" the wablo will be a little harder. and the roads are mostly trucks and crash.
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 20 November 2015 18: 01
            +2
            Quote: Travian
            regretted the trucker - tens of thousands earn on average per flight, and

            Well, if you "drive out" from home to the store or go to barbecues on your "swallow" and consider yourself a real driver, then you shouldn't blame the hard workers who wind up a thousand kilometers a day ... And the fact that roads are broken, so they need to be built well and to repair in a timely manner, without kickbacks and cuts.
            1. Travian
              Travian 1 December 2015 12: 11
              0
              I do not pretend to be a professional. I don’t earn bread by these hard work, but I drive on the roads and, moreover, not only to the store, I go to barbecue in Sochi from the suburbs and I see how truckers behave rudely on the road ... and the fact that private traders don’t they want to pay so this only confirms that they work semi-legally or even in black ... I see no reason to protect them. Large and medium-sized shopping malls will work (by the way, they do not strike). As for the "cutting" of "road" money, this is a topic for a separate discussion. The fact that the money is stolen by officials does not exempt all of us from paying taxes, duties, etc.
  • samara-58
    samara-58 20 November 2015 10: 52
    +9
    Waiting for comments from real participants in the events !!! belay
  • innoker-1563
    innoker-1563 20 November 2015 10: 52
    0
    However.....?! I am in shock.
  • nemec55
    nemec55 20 November 2015 10: 53
    +7
    Strelkova crush, he resists.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 20 November 2015 10: 54
      +3
      Quote: nemec55
      Strelkova crushing

      And who is pushing him and why?
      1. nemec55
        nemec55 20 November 2015 11: 00
        20
        And who is pushing him and why?

        Yes, FIG knows, but remember when it all started Strelkov was on the front pages of our media and then Kurginyan appeared and went and went off But when our tops couldn’t decide what to do with Nenko, Strelkov in my opinion was like that
        1. Homo
          Homo 20 November 2015 11: 24
          +3
          Quote: nemec55
          Yes, FIG knows him, but remember when it all started Strelkov was on the front pages of our media and then ...

          He was, while he fought for Novorossiya. And then he was offended and "suffered".
          1. nemec55
            nemec55 20 November 2015 11: 39
            +1
            He was, while he fought for Novorossiya. And then he was offended and "suffered".

            The same opinion. That's where it’s better to be silent
          2. Egoza
            Egoza 20 November 2015 13: 08
            +6
            Quote: Homo
            He was, while he fought for Novorossiya. And then he was offended and "suffered".

            Whether oh! even while he was in Donbass, he demanded discipline, arrests of drunkards and marauders. And the commanders supported him, only now in a "strange way" they then got into ambushes and road accidents. And who told you that he has no connection with the guys "from there"?
            Further, for some reason, the DPR and LPR armies did not unite. It would be impossible to steal the heads of the DNI and LC?
            Further, in Kiev to this day it is PANICALLY afraid of Strelkov's return. Isn't that why they didn’t let him in, even though he asked him as an ordinary?
            Or maybe he is uncomfortable with telling the truth?
            1. alicante11
              alicante11 20 November 2015 13: 43
              +3
              Further, in Kiev to this day it is PANICALLY afraid of Strelkov's return.


              Elena, you are a smart person. What can IIS do if the power there is already divided? Previously, it was necessary to take power, while he had at hand almost half of the militia of New Russia. Now what about doing? Will raise a rebellion of the militia against the DNI and LC? So Kiev only it is necessary.

              Isn't that why they didn’t let him in, even though he asked him as an ordinary?


              Well, imagine yourself the boss of such a subordinate? Not only that, an authoritative person, if not legendary, is still not restrained and with huge cockroaches in his head (one prohibition of a mate in a war is worth it!). Personally, I work with such people every day and, believe me, this is very tiring and not useful for business.

              Or maybe he is uncomfortable with telling the truth?


              I do not think that it is inconvenient and I do not think that this is true. It would be true, dill would have climbed into the attack. They are only held back by the danger of an otvetka; overseas owners will cover them from everything else.
          3. Petrix
            Petrix 20 November 2015 13: 40
            -3
            Quote: Homo
            And then offended

            Who was offended? Maybe for those who wanted to sacrifice him in Slavyansk?
            Or maybe a game to play. Bright figures are good to use, but also fear their independence. The exit from Slavyansk is, perhaps, a manifestation of Strelkov’s independence. Therefore, he was pushed back, alert.
            A dangerous situation for him - the liberals will not trust him, and the patriots are already losing confidence. This is fraught with oblivion.
        2. Vladimyrych
          Vladimyrych 20 November 2015 12: 06
          0
          Quote: nemec55
          then Kurginyan appeared and to

          Not being an apologist for Kurginyan.
          Kurginyan and his "The Essence of Time" appeared so long before the "Field Marshal" that it is not even decent to discuss.
        3. Niki
          Niki 20 November 2015 13: 11
          +2
          Something I do not remember that he was in "our media"
          In the media're coming out, he is still. Well, if we assume that this site is also SIM, then - of course. But I think that it meant some kind of "our media". In RBC, he could slip through or NG, but it is only doubtful that such media can be called "our"
    2. avt
      avt 20 November 2015 11: 16
      +1
      Quote: nemec55
      Strelkova crush, he resists.

      Quote: Vladimirets
      And who is pushing him and why?

      Quote: nemec55
      and FIG knows him

      laughing “I myself have not seen Paul. But don't hope! The Cossack cut him down .... with a shashaka .... in half! "Belkovsky dumped in London, but his business lives in Girkin / Strelkov - ,, I cannot tell you .... they were planning ..... yes they can ...... but really .... "
      Quote: nemec55
      mi and then Kurginyan appeared and went and went

      And this is what the "Surkovian propaganda" brought "the white warrior without fear and reproach" request wassat
    3. Hamul
      Hamul 20 November 2015 11: 17
      15
      As far as I remember, Girkin used to say that:
      a) he will not go into politics
      b) make any decision by the management
      c) after a while it will begin to be mixed with dirt.

      What we have:
      a) in fact, he climbed into politics
      b) he did not shut up, although he seemed to be supposed to
      c) they began to pour mud on it. Harassment? who poisons him where and with what?

      I would like to dwell on point c), with the first and so now everything is clear - only with the passage of time does the real truth about those events and about the main characters begin to reveal. And something tells me that everything will be very sad for Girkin / Stelkov.

      Shl. If you read the biography with Girkine, don't you think that there are a lot of interesting "ups"?
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 20 November 2015 11: 51
        0
        Quote: nemec55
        Yes, FIG knows him, but remember when it all started Strelkov was on the front pages of our media and then Kurginyan appeared and went and went, but when ours decided on what to do with nenka, then Strelkov in my opinion was like

        You are a little wrong, at first there was the surrender of Slavensk (although apparently help was promised in the form of a "north wind") and then Kurginyan appeared. That is, first an element of betrayal, then Kurginyan and disappearance from the media. When they thought that he was a patriot (of ANY COLOR) he was in trend. Therefore, now he appears mainly in the liberal media. Then the amerikos themselves needed him to drag Russia into the war.
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        In my opinion, on the basis of his "significance" the roof began to go! How could we, in the person of Igor Strelkov, not have another liberalist and fighter against the "totalitarian regime"!

        Now only on the patriotic (not liberals) wave can one influence the people. If things are bad there, they will also use it. But poor condition does not make him a patriot.
      2. avt
        avt 20 November 2015 12: 00
        0
        Quote: Hamul
        Shl. If you read the biography with Girkine, don't you think that there are a lot of interesting "ups"?

        Another, Kurginian Surkovskiy "Welcome to us in the Surkovskaya propaganda" laughing
    4. Baloo
      Baloo 20 November 2015 11: 58
      +3
      They do not crush him, they move him to Trotsky as an alternative to the oral and dad with his son Dudkin.
      1. avt
        avt 20 November 2015 12: 05
        +2
        Quote: Balu
        They do not crush him, they move him to Trotsky as an alternative to the oral and dad with his son Dudkin.

        No. I don’t agree for Trotsky. Trotsky is like a bullet from shit. Considering his monarchical kookies and a dull appearance - Gapon, which I have been talking about for a long time, as well as the fact that he is being moved to the place of Anal. Is it interesting - will Belkovsky beat him nobility in London with Kent of Kent? wassat Monarchist ears warm?
    5. ksan
      ksan 20 November 2015 13: 43
      0
      nemec55 (3) SU Today, 10:53 AM
      Strelkova crush, he resists.
      And who presses his poor fellow ?? Not really Surkov ?? or SAM ?? Ai-ya-yay. A poor, misunderstood hero, another VICTIM OF THE BLOOD MODE, each imagines himself a strategist seeing the battle from the side. hi
  • vyinemeynen
    vyinemeynen 20 November 2015 10: 54
    +8
    Dear our readers from Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics! We really want to hear your opinion! Well done authors notes.
    Over the past 2-3 weeks, this is 4 or 5 statement Strelkova. Why is he so frequent?
    1. Good me
      Good me 20 November 2015 11: 25
      +8
      Quote: vyinemeynen
      Dear our readers from Donetsk and Lugansk People's Republics! We really want to hear your opinion!


      Your call is similar to the cry of the philosopher Diogenes, who walked during the day with a lighted lantern and exclaimed: "I am looking for a Man" ...

      From LDNR, to VO, remained ... Few of those who were, remained ...
      1. U-96
        U-96 20 November 2015 11: 45
        +1
        Quote: Good Me
        Your call is similar to the cry of the philosopher Diogenes, who walked during the day with a lighted lantern and exclaimed: "I am looking for a Man" ...

        but if only I didn’t call someone like that: “I myself am from Donetsk, Stakhanov’s granddaughter, I am writing from the face. Not everything is clear here here ...” laughing
        1. Good me
          Good me 20 November 2015 12: 06
          +3
          Quote: U-96
          but if only I didn’t call someone like that: “I myself am from Donetsk, Stakhanov’s granddaughter, I am writing from the face. Not everything is clear here here ...”


          So the point is that "Stakhanov's granddaughters" may well fill the "vacuum" created on the site ...
      2. vyinemeynen
        vyinemeynen 20 November 2015 12: 19
        0
        This is a quote from the article.
        1. Good me
          Good me 20 November 2015 12: 47
          0
          Quote: vyinemeynen
          This is a quote from the article.


          Did not make outhi
      3. mvg
        mvg 20 November 2015 12: 46
        +2
        I am a member of the VKontakte group, with the Donetsk people .. Their attitude, to be honest, "we have been betrayed," and now they treat Russia - not so unambiguously. I would even say that some are inadequate. So it's better not to post their comments on VO ..
        Cons - figs with them, but hostility and inadequacy can go off scale ..
        Personally, I was unpleasant when they spit in my face.
      4. VadimSt
        VadimSt 20 November 2015 12: 58
        13
        I have already practically refused to express my position here about what is happening here in the LPR. He who has saved his nerves has also saved his health!
        But now, all the same I’ll blurt out, because none of the younger ones have yet spoken.
        1. I don’t know whether Strelkov came to Novorossia on his own or by someone else’s direction, but did not leave it of his own free will or the will of the DPR leadership. However, as you know, this also applies to many others, organizers and leaders of armed resistance in the DLNR.
        2. If the military, in the broadest sense, always has information that is not just closed under one or another classification of secrecy, but is under "seven locks", then about Girkin himself, we can say with confidence that, firstly, there are no former intelligence officers and counterintelligence officers, and secondly, the special services have any "game" under "seven locks". If anyone believes that the war in Donbass is limited only to an open confrontation between the Armed Forces and the Armed Forces of Ukraine, then there is nothing more to say.
        3. What you want to reject or confirm. The discipline, at least in the People's Militia (LPR army), is tough. Home only on leave, for a few hours. There can be no question of some kind of systemic drunkenness - although, as you know, the family has its black sheep. Trying to buy vodka in the city, even being dressed simply in hunting camouflage, is a useless exercise - you will receive a refusal from the seller, since, if such cases are detected, the outlet will be closed. Everyone knows and is confident that the Kiev junta will not calm down, it has no other way to maintain its power. In addition, there are no Slavs "Slavic" and "not very Slavic" - having received "in the face", the Slavs, as a rule, get into a "fight", and do not run to court! And the junta, with its overseas masters, is counting on this, and not on mass patriotism.
        1. His
          His 20 November 2015 14: 54
          +2
          He had never been a scout, a historian and a rogue, a nonsense in life. Then combed into Yugoslavia, then under a contract to Chechnya and everywhere as a naturalist caretaker.
          And it is unclear why he was kicked out of the organs (now many FSB crusts are present). There is a sin or apparent inadequacy.
          Finish it over. Shame on the FSB is more expensive.
          1. Turkir
            Turkir 20 November 2015 16: 40
            +3
            He had never been a scout, a historian and a rogue, a nonsense in life.

            Such things would have to be proved.
            -----------------------------
            To get a strong answer, you need to ask a strong question.
            What forces spend the company against Strelkova?
            What forces support Strelkova?
            What is dangerous for whom Strelkov?
            Is it possible that the campaign against Strelkov is just a feint, and the real goal is different, his environment?
            Strelkov is not a political figure on such a scale that it takes so much effort and time. It is strange that so much energy is wasted on black PR. We have too few facts for a single opinion.
            1. His
              His 20 November 2015 16: 46
              +1
              The Chekists have their own moral code. Girkin does not comply with this code. With such people do not go to intelligence.
              1. VadimSt
                VadimSt 20 November 2015 21: 10
                0
                Did you, in my answer, see the defense or approval of Strelkov-Girkin? Or do you just know what to read without delving into the meaning of the text? Even the smallest grandchildren can read with me - with a "translator" of the meaning of words!
                You probably do not have enough "translation" of paragraph 2. I will translate. In my opinion, the former - intelligence officers and counterintelligence agents of any rank, there are only deserters. Even in the 90s, there were only a few of them. The rest either observe a dinner of silence, which "spreads" even after the end of the service, or say only what is possible or "necessary". This category of accounting, not a cook of a soldier's kitchen - with a signature on nondisclosure of the recipe for "navy pasta" and a ban on working in a roadside eatery.
  • kit-kat
    kit-kat 20 November 2015 10: 54
    13
    I think that only people who truly serve, or are members of the militia, can appreciate Girkin’s words. We can only guess.
    1. vell.65
      vell.65 20 November 2015 11: 08
      +6
      It is not clear to anyone who’s brain powder.
  • nizrum
    nizrum 20 November 2015 10: 55
    +3
    I don’t know ... As for me, over the last year there is nothing other than misinformation from him.
  • clown
    clown 20 November 2015 10: 58
    -2
    Drugs and alcohol are evil.
    1. AUL
      AUL 20 November 2015 11: 57
      +3
      Bravo! The medal is deserved!
    2. U-96
      U-96 20 November 2015 12: 08
      +3
      Quote: Clown
      Drugs and alcohol are evil.
    3. Kyrgyz
      Kyrgyz 20 November 2015 16: 19
      +1
      Quote: Clown
      Drugs and alcohol are evil.

      Try separately, at least a couple of days between them, then it's easier
  • glavnykarapuz
    glavnykarapuz 20 November 2015 10: 58
    0
    Truth or its semblance somewhere between what all interested parties say (Girkin, fighters of the LPR and DPR, "officials" of both Urkainy and the unrecognized republics)
    Each has its own "truth" and its own vision of the same situation.
    P.S. "... The truth is always one -This was said by Pharaoh, He was very smart. And for this he was called Tutankhamun ..." Nautilus Pompilius
    1. U-96
      U-96 20 November 2015 12: 18
      +2
      Quote: glavnykarapuz
      Each has its own "truth" and its own vision of the same situation.

      exactly. In our matrix, truths change with kaleidoscopic speed.
  • goblin xnumx
    goblin xnumx 20 November 2015 10: 58
    +9
    the army is inactive — and especially the partisans — I won’t be surprised — although he may have exaggerated a little that it would reach someone faster — I repeat I won’t be surprised
    and if you recall how they removed Girkin himself and other commanders (they put someone in the ground)? after all, last year there were also articles on the site (current small numbers) about the situation in the militia, one retired wrote as a group of comrades We went there and what they saw there and concluded that there was loot and the authorities mainly wrote about the fact that the old officer categorically did not advise him to go there, I don’t hear any more about the help with equipment, but about how they receive such gifts and who tries to meet, you and they themselves already wrote, the result is logical
    1. Hamul
      Hamul 20 November 2015 11: 22
      +8
      Dear, I talked with some of the participants who were in LDN.
      Want to know in a nutshell what they say? There, everything is very pictorial with the "folk heroes" and with the very Cossacks - and there is really a bunch of heaps of chernukha and drug trafficking and smuggling. There is a real Makhnovshchina. Sishkom has a lot of everything, and the most important ones are not there. Why do you think people go there - romance to shoot people? Or maybe the loot?
      1. brisk
        brisk 20 November 2015 11: 47
        +4
        Quote: Hamul
        and there is really a bunch of chernukha and drug trafficking and smuggling. There is really Makhnovism.


        Perhaps you wanted to say --- atamanism? What does Makhnovism and Makhno have to do with it in a negative context? Almost a hundred years ago, Makhnovism, that is, the military movement of the predominantly peasant rural people, with an anarchist ideology from its leader, with its center in Gulyai-Pole, was a powerful and well-organized action as for that time, perhaps even the most thorough and deserving respect in that past civil war. Having many military successes, and simple illiterate and illiterate Selyuk --- plowmen, buckwheat and shepherds --- made these successes ... Have you read these books?
        1. Roads of Nestor Makhno
        2. Nestor Makhno - Memories
        3. Nestor Makhno - Russian Revolution in Ukraine
        1. Hamul
          Hamul 20 November 2015 11: 58
          +3
          I would like to say that processes of a very different orientation are going on in LDNR, and from a variety of structures, curators and opposing forces. In addition, there is activity aimed at enrichment - by any means, in addition there are actions aimed at the survival of some units and help the dead soldiers - legal and illegal means. In addition, the phenomena of banal banditry and stupid looting are very frequent. + Do not forget about the oligarchs and their policies on manifestations of loyalty and Ukraine and the Russian Federation
          Summing up - one might say - one real power is not there - everyone is against everyone - hence the term "Makhnovshchina" (formal anarchy on the part of all structures) is applied.
  • Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 20 November 2015 10: 59
    +3
    "That's it, you kid ...." sailed! " "Hello, girls!" ....... (from an anecdote, as a one-eyed and blind man .... they went to the "girls")
  • shultc
    shultc 20 November 2015 11: 01
    +6
    There are many words, only deeds are real. And things will be visible only when the APU breaks off on the orders of the ukrokhunta on the offensive and receives a worthy return from the militia. Only then will everything fall into place. There will be no secrets and omissions. Here he is the enemy, stepping over the agreement, and we must wet him. The hoisted flag of victory over Kiev will clear all questions!
  • Djclone
    Djclone 20 November 2015 11: 02
    +3
    I didn’t think that everything was so bad ... Or is it a brech?
  • S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 20 November 2015 11: 03
    11
    I’m not from New Russia, I apologize for damping: homeless demigods .... But how else can I call a person whose city is razed to the ground? In general, the speech is very strange: how then did the indicated semi-decomposed units resist the regular army, in fact, for more than a year? Yeah, the Russian military personnel helped. A small clarification - in Novorosia, too, Russian. Same. Russian from the east (as seen from the speech): dressed in uniform, fit, disciplined save the Russians from the west - drunk, hyped drug addicts .... Ugh. Respected him before, but what does he carry now? Dear forum users from the Donbass, please explain.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 20 November 2015 11: 04
    +2
    If only because they have not been in the structures about which he speaks for a long time...... It seems that this plot is impressive ... in all the structures of LDNR there are Girkin’s people who provide him with reliable information .. But there is another aspect, but isn’t he bluffing ...? .. But Strelkova is sorry .. I got involved. .
  • Fisman
    Fisman 20 November 2015 11: 05
    -3
    Bitter truth.
  • Kolka82
    Kolka82 20 November 2015 11: 13
    +5
    I do not want to seem like a prude, but his frigging and glossy physiognomy leads to certain thoughts ... what
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 20 November 2015 11: 34
      12
      in our country, almost the entire government is shiny and has muzzle. Not alarming?
      1. Kolka82
        Kolka82 23 November 2015 08: 32
        0
        Well, what am I leading to? "Away from the bosses, closer to the kitchen"
  • sergo42
    sergo42 20 November 2015 11: 14
    11
    In principle, this is how he says, the ideological ones left (in connection with the Minsk bl-v) and in their place came people fighting for grandmothers. And even last summer, without the north wind, ukras would not pile
  • individual
    individual 20 November 2015 11: 16
    +6
    It's simple:
    They turned away from Strelkov, and Girkin was offended!
  • Urals
    Urals 20 November 2015 11: 17
    +2
    We ourselves, of course, are also spoken not by local people, and more and more by rumors and gossip. But to hear such statements from a man who has not set foot on the land of New Russia since the summer of '14. All the same, let me doubt your words, Comrade Girkin. The possibilities of the DPR army and LC, we could see over the entire period of the fighting. And probably this is not the level of half-homeless people but quite combat-ready, paramilitary, formation. Just my opinion.
  • Altona
    Altona 20 November 2015 11: 18
    +7
    Sometimes it is better to be silent than to speak ... If you are a politician, then a politician, but then with such statements, you are a political corpse ... If you are some kind of commander, then it is better to be silent, do military affairs, do volunteering, mobilize volunteers , collection of military property ... But with such statements - this is a road to nowhere ... Or rather, as he was a White Guard and remained, the position "I am Dartanyan, the rest are below me in level" ..
  • PQ-18
    PQ-18 20 November 2015 11: 18
    15
    WHO will refute Strelkov ?!
    Obviously, he HAS BASES for such accusations against the Lao PDR leadership.
    After the shooting of the field commanders of the militia by "Ukrop saboteurs", scandals with the arrests and resignations of senior officials, postponing elections at the request of Ukraine ...
    You involuntarily think ...
    1. Altona
      Altona 20 November 2015 11: 35
      +4
      Quote: PQ-18
      WHO will refute Strelkov ?!
      Obviously, he HAS BASES for such accusations against the Lao PDR leadership.

      ------------------------
      Even so, is it necessary to broadcast this to the whole world? Going out in an ironed suit to the microphones? I represent the Stalinist People’s Commissar, Beria or Mikoyan, for example, comes out and gives an interview about how poorly equipped the group near Rzhev or near Novorossiysk ...
      1. Turkir
        Turkir 20 November 2015 12: 20
        +1
        Beria and Mikoyan could approach the microphone only with the permission of the Secretary General.
        Girkin divulges military secrets or worried about the fate of the LPR, DPR?
        What prevails here, in your opinion?
        1. Altona
          Altona 20 November 2015 14: 33
          +1
          Quote: Turkir
          Girkin divulges military secrets or worried about the fate of the LPR, DPR?
          What prevails here, in your opinion?

          ------------------------------------
          In my opinion, envy and self-PR prevail, and not what you called, Igor Ivanovich breeds alarmism and harmful propaganda. What Igor Vsevolodovich (or Ivanovich) took care of is no longer in his competence, real politicians are engaged in this. They decide what statements to make and what power actions to hold, where the red lines go and how to protect them ...
          1. Stanislas
            Stanislas 20 November 2015 17: 06
            0
            Quote: Altona
            envy prevails
            Envy to whom? Can you name the new hero whom he, in your opinion, is jealous of?
            1. Altona
              Altona 20 November 2015 22: 54
              0
              Quote: Stanislav
              Quote: Altona
              envy prevails
              Envy to whom? Can you name the new hero whom he, in your opinion, is jealous of?

              ----------------------
              Who can he envy? To Putin, of course. Putin, on the other hand, took over the regulation of relations between Ukraine and Donbass. Igor Vsevolodovich-Ivanovich wanted to steer the process himself, get resources, lead the regiments into the attack. However, the stakes since then have increased greatly and it is not for Igor Ivanovich to think about the fate of Russia, Ukraine, Donbass, Syria. The process is strictly regulated. Until we have a "humanitarian reason" to intervene in the scrapping of Minsk-2, the same people live in Ukraine as in the Donbass, and not all of them feel like a "Ukrainian nation", at least in its current form. The Ukrainian state must completely destroy itself ...
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    2. kotvov
      kotvov 20 November 2015 11: 49
      +3
      You involuntarily think ..., of course, thinking is not harmful, but somehow strange, HE (girkin) left, everything became very bad.
    3. Maz
      Maz 20 November 2015 13: 34
      +2
      Well, finally, they thought. And that’s good.
  • 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 20 November 2015 11: 19
    +8
    I would like to express my observations. These are just observations and nothing more. In Strelkov, this feature was visible even with his direct participation in the events. He loves: "Everything is lost, we will be crushed, things are bad, etc." And recently from his statements one gets the impression that he was very offended when he was removed from participation. He considers this war his own. Like, I started it ... So I went into opposition, they didn't let me play enough with my own army and take part in my own war. The man got offended. Well, I am so, I think, with complete informational hunger, in fits and starts ...
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 20 November 2015 11: 37
      +9
      For an adult man, no offense can be a reason to betray their beliefs. I strongly disagree about the insult. Not serious.
      1. Slavs
        Slavs 20 November 2015 12: 22
        +3
        An educated person, intelligent and behaving like an infantile "offender"? I doubt it ... I respect Strelkov for taking it and going and doing what I thought was necessary and right, unlike many of us ... But with Girkin I got completely confused ...
      2. alicante11
        alicante11 20 November 2015 13: 55
        0
        For an adult man, no offense can be a reason to betray their beliefs. I strongly disagree about the insult. Not serious.


        Come on! When you surrender yourself to the cause, and then they take away the case, or even break it up, it’s not just an insult, you grit your teeth. It was passed. And here a man also risked his life, and more than once (Transnistria, Yugoslavia). And he was behind the scruff of his neck and like a puppy naughty ... Bastards ... Although, of course, this does not justify the IIS. Nefig live with patriotic white-bellies, this is not the company.
  • exalex2
    exalex2 20 November 2015 11: 22
    +2
    And when was it different in the War? Time is always required .. And not the fact that it is curable .. You can only sympathize .. I had the best friends after Afgan .. (I asked myself, refused) A completely different view of the world. When, after driving the equipment to Chirchik, and storing "ammunition" in a friend's apartment and being in mine, and of course some other "eccentricities". What are the boys supposed to experience? Normal phenomenon. They are already different. It is extremely difficult to "change", they usually remain in the "TOM" world.
  • Aleksandr2012
    Aleksandr2012 20 November 2015 11: 22
    +6
    I wonder why Kurginyan is not discussed here. He shines much more often in the media.
    1. exalex2
      exalex2 20 November 2015 11: 58
      +2
      Quote: Aleksandr2012
      I wonder why Kurginyan is not discussed here.

      Do you need it? Is dealing with G ** ohm interesting? Who cares?
  • Russia
    Russia 20 November 2015 11: 25
    +7
    I am not a conspiracy theorist. But lately it seems that ...
    No names.
    The man was given the task to provoke an armed conflict and drag Russia into it. Some kind of armed resistance to the junta was organized. However, something went wrong! The people of the region rose up, broke off the newcomers, and Russia did not come to the war, as this man called her in his time. And this certain person is no longer in business, far away and somehow "strangely speaking."
    I repeat - I am not a conspiracy theorist, but what is provocation - sometimes I understand.
    You can minus.
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    2. Maz
      Maz 20 November 2015 13: 28
      +2
      This Strelkov, a father-in-law, frustrated Russia's plan to neutralize American influence in Ukraine. He violated the agreement and acted as a private person, then refused to comply with the Order. He jeopardized the policy of the whole state and the work of its performers on the final consolidation of the annexation of Crimea to Russia. This is treason to the motherland - dearie - in wartime it is punishable by death ... And he invented a task for himself.

      You don’t need a knife for a fool, you’re lying to him from three boxes and do what you like with him.

      The question is who pushed him in the back with his fists? And provided cover?
    3. alicante11
      alicante11 20 November 2015 13: 59
      +1
      The man was given the task of provoking an armed conflict and drawing Russia into it.


      Indeed, IIS probably burned people in Odessa, dispersed pro-Russian rallies in Kharkov, and before that, in any case, he muddied Maidown and handed out cookies, making up under Nuland.
    4. Altona
      Altona 21 November 2015 11: 49
      0
      Quote: Rossi-Ya
      The man was given the task of provoking an armed conflict and drawing Russia into it. A certain armed resistance to the junta was organized.

      ---------------------------
      It is unlikely, there was a passionate desire, a desire to informally enter this environment and lead the process from within. In a romantic way, so to speak, that is why he played the role of a useful idiot if the United States had thoughts of dragging Russia into a direct armed confrontation in Ukraine. He fulfilled some mission, thanks to him for this, but now such statements as he makes are completely unnecessary. These statements are almost entirely fasting in the Ukrainian media, they are beginning to be referred to, and almost overwhelming is being announced over the "rusty forces of the cotton militia." And this is not even the worst thing, but the fact that he splits the ranks of the defenders of the Russian world.
  • sangarovka
    sangarovka 20 November 2015 11: 25
    11
    He was in the 7th brigade from June to October. Enormous drunkenness ranging from an ordinary to a battalion commander (I personally saw it) men aged 30+ drink, young people 18+ who usually come to 80% smoke grass. Positions, I’m going to change people on nightlights and they are sleeping stupidly insecure position, come and kill (as the Ukrainians did in Gorlovka when 20 of us were cut out) In September, polygons were sent for rotation, etc. 60% of the fired were gone, new ones came that only needed a salary.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 20 November 2015 11: 33
      +1
      You specially registered to convey the "truth"?
      1. Altona
        Altona 21 November 2015 00: 15
        0
        Quote: Vladimirets
        You specially registered to convey the "truth"?

        -----------------
        The state of the front and troops of the BCH

        http://www.novorosinform.org/news/id/42116
    2. Altona
      Altona 20 November 2015 11: 38
      +6
      Quote: sangarovka
      He was in the 7th brigade from June to October. Enormous drunkenness ranging from an ordinary to a battalion commander (I personally saw it) men aged 30+ drink, young people 18+ who usually come to 80% smoke grass.

      ----------------------------
      On the other side (Ukrainians) they smoke grass, on this side (DNR) they also smoke grass and drink ... Who then protects the country?
      1. U-96
        U-96 20 November 2015 12: 20
        +1
        Quote: Altona
        On the other side (Ukrainians) they smoke grass, on this side (DNR) they also smoke grass and drink ... Who then protects the country?

        from whom?
        1. Altona
          Altona 20 November 2015 14: 36
          +1
          Quote: U-96
          from whom?

          ---------------------
          From ourselves ... From whom else? That is, drunk Ukrainians are advancing, and the stoned dnrovtsy are casting them back to their positions ...
        2. Corsair
          Corsair 20 November 2015 14: 52
          +1
          Quote: U-96
          from whom?

          How from whom? From the Altai armored cavalry, from the Chuvash tank crews, the 18th brigade of the Russian GRU special forces ... Someone must restrain the occupiers
    3. His
      His 20 November 2015 15: 31
      +2
      In urkain everywhere there is total drinking and drug addiction, HIV and hepatitis among young people. What is another country in the world that is engaged in gastrobaying prostitutes. Normal people leave from there for a long time so as not to die. Soon it will be Somalia.
  • 31rus
    31rus 20 November 2015 11: 26
    +3
    Dear, in my opinion, here the calculation is for shock, yes it is for shock, which Girkin achieved, not only Ukraine, but also the republics moved to the "background" of the Kremlin, at least somehow to attract attention, to touch on the quick, that's these articles and interviews are caused, the opinion of Girkin, as well as any of us, is only the opinion of a private person and he has the right to this, the moral side is already different, I will say right away the Kremlin's policy towards Ukraine, as it was incompetent, and continues this to be, I think, Girkin's "move" is just an attempt to somehow sharpen the question of what is happening
    1. U-96
      U-96 20 November 2015 12: 26
      +5
      Quote: 31rus
      Dear, in my opinion there is a calculation for shock, and it is shock

      well, and who shocked this? Most members of the forum are mature adults with a life experience that leaves no room for illusions about human nature. Shocking them is not easy.
    2. Altona
      Altona 20 November 2015 23: 01
      0
      Quote: 31rus
      Dear, in my opinion, here the calculation is for shock, yes it is for shock, which Girkin achieved, not only Ukraine, but also the republics moved to the "background" of the Kremlin, at least somehow to attract attention,

      ----------------------
      Why attract him this attention? Shoigu and Putin already have fingers on the keys of the Information Center of the Ministry of Defense, planes take off, ships go, missiles launch. What else is needed? The rates are already prohibitive. Already, Qatar, Saudi Arabia and Turkey have made a remark about the sponsorship of terrorism, the United States poke its nose in the trough. Trucks with bread come to the Donbass regularly. Everything's under control.
  • sgr291158
    sgr291158 20 November 2015 11: 27
    +4
    Something is hard to believe. If it were all so bad, dill would have long been flooded, but something holds them. And as I understand it, it holds a real force that can resist them. And yet, how can Girkin know all this, from someone’s words, so you can talk about anything.
    1. veksha50
      veksha50 20 November 2015 12: 14
      +1
      Quote: sgr291158
      If it were all so bad, dill would have long been flooded, but something keeps them.


      Yes, and holds the same ... What, they have so many experienced fighters and officers ???
  • BOB044
    BOB044 20 November 2015 11: 31
    -1
    Collapse under carpet games Novorossiya.Eto very bad and sorry. am
    1. U-96
      U-96 20 November 2015 11: 35
      +7
      Quote: BOB044
      Collapse under carpet games Novorossiya.Eto very bad and sorry. am

      is there something to ruin? New Russia in the form that it dreamed of the same Girkin and other romantics of the "Russian Spring" does not exist. Hallucination. Sadly.
      1. ksan
        ksan 20 November 2015 14: 26
        +2
        but is there something to ruin? New Russia in the form that it dreamed of the same Girkin and other romantics of the "Russian Spring" does not exist. Hallucination. Sadly
        The LDNR state is a reality, not a hallucination. Perhaps Strelkov and the "other romantics" saw Novorossiya from "sea to sea", but the reality and possibilities are far from the wishes of the "romantics" of the "Russian Spring". Really 1.LDNR exists as an independent state, only formally included in the Ruin. 2. The LDNR has a guarantor of their "inviolability" - Russia. And 3rd build your state, who said it would be easy? YOU are not allowed to be strangled physically + they help financially, you will agree quite a few. Strengthen the economy, the army, you look, and the rest of Donetsk and Lugansk will join YOU if YOU are better than in the Ruin, or the rest of the Eastern regions will be YOU NOVOROSSIYA. Water wears away the stone. hi
        1. U-96
          U-96 20 November 2015 16: 12
          0
          Quote: ksan
          .LDPR exists as an independent state

          This is nothing more than your imagination.
          Quote: ksan
          . The LDNR has a guarantor of their "inviolability" - Russia.
          Why would you? actually, there were more signatories in Minsk. And it's not about someone's "immunity", but about the termination of the database, which is not the same thing.
          Quote: ksan
          build your state

          yes, something seems to me that the current suspended state of uncertainty is preferable to the architects there.
          Quote: ksan
          Strengthen the economy

          and do you know the recipe?
          Quote: ksan
          and the rest of Donetsk and Lugansk will join YOU if YOU will be better than in Ruin, or the rest of the Eastern regions will be YOU NEWS
          Sorry, listen to yourself. A year ago, this would have passed for the romanticism of the Russian spring, but today it already sounds, to put it mildly ....
          Quote: ksan
          Water grinds the stone.

          ... not by force, but by a frequent fall. Well, and how much more will it drip?
  • solovey
    solovey 20 November 2015 11: 34
    -1
    http://www.pravda-tv.ru/2015/10/31/185483
  • skat
    skat 20 November 2015 11: 36
    +5
    It is difficult to believe this, sometimes seeing pictures from Donbas. As a military man, Mr. Girkin should understand that when he tells these tales, he pours water on someone else's mill. New Russia needs to respond to the statement of Mr. Girkin.
  • kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 20 November 2015 11: 37
    -2
    Another Judah! Apparently Nemtsov decided to take a vacant place! Scum!
  • bentonite
    bentonite 20 November 2015 11: 37
    +6
    In his words there is much more truth than I would like ...
  • Vishnevsky
    Vishnevsky 20 November 2015 11: 38
    +2
    During the report, Girkin looked somehow unsure, as if he himself did not believe in his words. Although it may just be shy of the public.
    1. The comment was deleted.
  • Don
    Don 20 November 2015 11: 45
    +8
    No matter how much they try to denigrate Strelkov, but the people will always respect him for his truly courageous act. Who was among the first to stand up for the defense of New Russia? Maybe one of you is an online grief-patriots ?? Or maybe your beloved Kurghin? Listen to the opinions of the fighters who fought next to him shoulder to shoulder. They almost idolize Strelkov. AH, HOW MUCH ON THE EARTH OF PEOPLE ARE Sneaky, SUCH TIME HAS ALREADY. YOU A VILLAGE TEACHING AS AN EXPLOIT AND ASK FOR THIS ORDER! am
    1. U-96
      U-96 20 November 2015 11: 51
      +1
      Quote: Donskoy
      Listen to the opinions of the fighters who fought next to him shoulder to shoulder. They almost idolize Strelkov.

      quote, listen.
      1. Maz
        Maz 20 November 2015 13: 22
        +1
        Donskoy doesn’t lie - everything is so. The militia of his team idolize Girkin as a saint. This is the piquancy of the situation. And almost now he is betraying his fighters.
        1. U-96
          U-96 20 November 2015 15: 31
          +1
          Quote: Maz
          Donskoy doesn’t lie - everything is so.

          yeah I do not mind. I didn’t understand why a completely harmless request to quote
          Quote: Donskoy
          opinion of the fighters who fought alongside him shoulder to shoulder
          instead of a sane answer, he blurted out a minus to me.
        2. mark7
          mark7 20 November 2015 16: 03
          0
          Quote: Maz
          Donskoy doesn’t lie - everything is so. The militia of his team idolize Girkin as a saint. This is the piquancy of the situation. And almost now he is betraying his fighters.

          The question is not this, for example, I did not serve with him and did not fight to somehow condemn or praise him, we are talking about his behavior at the moment.
    2. vovan089
      vovan089 20 November 2015 12: 07
      -6
      Girkin, or whatever his real name is, is essentially a war criminal who tried to attract Russia to the hostilities in the Donbass, which this unknown SPECIALTY unleashed. Place him in Jail.
      1. Slavs
        Slavs 20 November 2015 13: 16
        +3
        Interesting opinion ... Then who is this unknown and modest hero who stopped the suppression of Donbass by the Ukrainian "power" ?? Who didn’t thank you? Whom (surname ??) will we put on the pedestal? Who organized the resistance? I am deliberately writing with pathos ... Restore in your memory the chronology of the events of those days, months from photos and videos, from reports ... Strelkov is sent to prison, then who started an organized confrontation with the children in masks, what did I miss?
  • antiexpert
    antiexpert 20 November 2015 11: 46
    0
    Well, it is clear that they will support the neglected misinformation, refuting the words of Girkin, but we know that here the operation is the same as with Serdyukov - behind the noise about the collapse of the army, it is being strengthened by specialists, ammunition and weapons from humconvoys and "volunteers" with combat experience.
    Everything's under control!
  • Maz
    Maz 20 November 2015 11: 50
    16
    They steal in the DLNR en masse. They steal gasoline labeled with radioisotopes from Russia, food and so on. Our Russian advisers are thrown with weapons when they reveal these facts and poke at the faces of the "militia" and their commanders. We have to neutralize some on the spot. It got to the point that the deputy heads of serious departments are caught on the tsaptsarap. The advisers swear and ask to go to Syria for a normal war. They were pissed off by the general reluctance to defend the Donbass from their own population and to tear them up for lawlessness and an illumined desire to take away everything indiscriminately. Our volunteers confirm, they are simply silent, it is a shame to realize that the tough miners are more like a lesson and are almost indistinguishable from the Ukrainians on the other side of the trenches - the same khokhols only dress up as Russians to suck Russia's boob. They must be thrashed at least with whips, so as not to steal. We, Russia, don't need such citizens even for money.
    1. U-96
      U-96 20 November 2015 11: 56
      +6
      Quote: Maz
      They steal in the DLNR en masse. They steal gasoline labeled with radioisotopes from Russia, food and so on. Our Russian advisers are thrown with weapons when they reveal these facts and poke at the faces of the "volunteers" and their commanders. We have to neutralize some on the spot. It got to the point that the deputy heads of serious departments are caught on the tsaptsarap. The advisers swear and ask to Syria for a normal war

      I'm afraid that the majority are not expecting such revelations, but tales about "invincibility and legendary" and other shining armor. Now they throw cons and send them to the censor in their favorite manner laughing
      1. Maz
        Maz 20 November 2015 12: 12
        +4
        Yes, I'd rather be wrong.
    2. Hamul
      Hamul 20 November 2015 12: 09
      +4
      That's it! Hallelujah! everything is correct (to see a person in courses) - and this is only part of what is happening there.
    3. veksha50
      veksha50 20 November 2015 12: 27
      +4
      Quote: Maz
      We, Russia, do not need such citizens for money.


      Maz, I wanted to give you a plus ... However, I went to you in a personal ...

      And what did I see ???

      "Russian Ukrainian. Citizen of the Russian Federation. Residence - Israel" ....

      Well, I can’t plus the comment of a person who lives in Israel and knows everything thoroughly about what is happening in the troops, we can already speak directly, the former (failed) New Russia ...

      Although, what you are writing about is quite admissible, since there are robberies and drunkenness carried out by some individuals in any civil wars ...

      However, if there were only thieves and drunks there, they simply would not be able to withstand so much time even the same thieves and drunks ...
      1. Maz
        Maz 20 November 2015 13: 13
        +1
        And you wonder about the size of the DLNR army? - 22 thousand people, along with the police and other units? This is on both Republics! All! And so little? Only one million people live in Donetsk!

        And if not Israel, what does this change in the Donbass?
        And if a Ukrainian, then how will this help the true state of affairs?
        But what if a Russian citizen is a subhuman? :)

        Do not seek witches, seek truth in truth. And the pros, shoot shoot out.

        Well, I'll post one more experiment and change the profile to a more patriotic one.
        1. Slavs
          Slavs 20 November 2015 13: 39
          0
          Yes, just write as it is, without experimentation, a city, but briefly about yourself ... And that’s it ...)
        2. veksha50
          veksha50 20 November 2015 16: 54
          +1
          Quote: Maz
          А you ask a question


          We seem to be unfamiliar and didn’t drink at the Brudershaft ...

          And about nationality and place of residence - these are your problems, just don’t have to pile everything together ... I said about this heap that it causes distrust of a person ...
      2. Baikonur
        Baikonur 20 November 2015 13: 43
        +2
        Quote: veksha50
        Maz, I wanted to give you a plus ... However, I went to you in a personal ...

        And what did I see ???

        "Russian Ukrainian. Citizen of the Russian Federation. Residence - Israel" ....

        Ha, an hour has passed and he already has a place of residence - Belgorod! Chameleon territorial! Izottuda, in short!
        1. veksha50
          veksha50 20 November 2015 16: 56
          0
          Quote: Baikonur
          Ha, an hour has passed and he already has a place of residence - Belgorod! Chameleon territorial!



          Flew over ...
    4. His
      His 20 November 2015 15: 37
      +3
      Maz, well, you whistle. Especially gasoline labeled with radioisotopes. It is something. But I didn’t see the sewn-in militias with codes from the Kremlin locks there by chance.
  • Fisman
    Fisman 20 November 2015 11: 51
    +4
    bukhous militias staggering around the city - a common picture of Lugansk.
    1. Maz
      Maz 20 November 2015 12: 11
      +1
      Look at your own.
      1. Fisman
        Fisman 20 November 2015 13: 04
        +3
        why write in the comments about what you do not know. What "friends" should I look at while living in Lugansk?
  • Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 20 November 2015 11: 53
    -1
    New Russia will be !! what about girkin is known ?? started a database in Slavyansk with the support of the group .. but the same Motor refrained from commenting on this matter .. and then passed it .. moreover, many say that it somehow passed wrong .. set up a war and merged saying that Russia Should join this war ..Donetsk was held without him and kept..the provocateur he ..
    1. Buffalo
      Buffalo 20 November 2015 13: 45
      -5
      Your ignorance is your problem.
      You have an idea of ​​Strelkov, like a blind man, of an elephant.
      Look provocateur in the mirror.
  • Kito
    Kito 20 November 2015 11: 55
    +4
    Once I left my opinion on Mr. Girkin, and grabbed a bunch of minuses.
    Quote: Samara-58
    Waiting for comments from real participants in the events !!! belay

    However, how can one be trusted in a person who does not have a military education, and who lies in his own biography? Although I do not belittle his personal qualities as a war, and respect courage and courage.
    Nevertheless, here are excerpts from his basic interweaving of life:

    In 1988 he entered the Moscow State Historical and Archival Institute (where there has not been and still is not a military department). Since 1989, he has been fond of military reconstruction and the history of the White movement.
    From June 18 to July 31, 1992 - volunteer (private) of the 2nd platoon of the Black Sea Cossack army of the PMR.
    In 1993-1994 he served in the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation [36] as a gunner of a security company (that is, Ryadov)
    From 1998 to 2005 he served in special units of the FSB: from 1998 in Dagestan, and from 1999 in Chechnya, having received the military rank of ensign
    According to Strelkov himself, he served in officer posts in the FSB of Russia since 1998 (retired on March 31, 2013)
    From 2005 until his retirement with the rank of colonel, on March 31, 2013, after seniority, he served in the FSB in Moscow in the anti-terror department in junior officer posts, remaining in the rank of ensign
    These are not my inventions. Mr. Girkin himself said all this.
    So the question arises is he ensign or colonel?
    Or maybe just a courageous man who played too much into a monarchist?
    1. goblin xnumx
      goblin xnumx 20 November 2015 12: 26
      +4
      read the biography of the new minister of defense - what military university did he graduate from? - do you believe him?
    2. U-96
      U-96 20 November 2015 12: 47
      -1
      Quote: Kito
      So the question arises is he ensign or colonel?

      judging by your picture - junior non-starter)
    3. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 20 November 2015 12: 47
      -1
      Quote: Kito
      Or maybe just a courageous man who played too much into a monarchist?

      The main word here is "play".
    4. assam4
      assam4 20 November 2015 13: 11
      0
      However, how can you believe a person who does not have a military education,


      Shoigu also does not have a military education, even did not serve in the army, but many believe him ...
    5. Buffalo
      Buffalo 20 November 2015 19: 37
      -1
      Hey, you eccentric, with the letter "m"!
      Strelkov graduated from the KGB school, unlike you, a bastard and a loafer, he fought.
      1. Cynic
        Cynic 20 November 2015 19: 46
        0
        Quote: Bison
        he fought.

        Not in the know is he?
        https://zakon.mirtesen.ru/blog/43039849939/Strelkov:-«Vyi-ochen-ploho-govorite-o
        -fashizme "? domain = mirtesen.ru & paid = 1 & pad = 1 & page = 1
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 20 November 2015 11: 55
    +4
    Why comment on anything here? Man has long been out of work! In any case, without Russia there would be nothing and there will be nothing! Russia has long been well known, otherwise it cannot be. Time will tell. And Donbass will not go anywhere. Otherwise, there was nothing to start the confrontation for.
  • Bashibuzuk
    Bashibuzuk 20 November 2015 12: 07
    +5
    They found a topic for discussion.
    Can not be the former intelligence officers.
    They may be in reserve, retired, even as - but they cannot be former.
    .
    Recall:
    when it was necessary to remove him, he left in two seconds. From the military commander to the Minister of Defense - then for the staff.
    He was silent for a while and let's get lost?
    I DO NOT BELIEVE .... strangle me with an accelerant - I don't believe.
    I would like to mourn - I would have fled to Naglia. They love such people there.
    No, he walks around Moscow and rinses the DNI and LC. Free. Something is not clean here, guys.
    .
    Now - there are homeless people fighting! Oh, ah ... WHAT TO STATE FOR HIM - regular parts of Russia are fighting there! So what?
    ..
    Well, let it be shaky and screaming - how could it be that we fought with Russia, but it turns out that the homeless defeated us!
    .
    We drove in, what am I talking about?
    1. U-96
      U-96 20 November 2015 13: 18
      +2
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      We drove in, what am I talking about?

      drove in. but we doubt it.
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      I would like to mourn - I would have fled to Naglia.

      strange promise. What the hell? To be extradited to the hoax who were declared terrorist by him?
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      No, he walks around Moscow and rinses the DNI and LC.

      so what? We have a free country.
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      Something is not clean here, guys.

      What exactly? what kind of expression of your opinion (mind you - not under any article falling within) do not take for a zugunder? You have an interesting idea about freedom of speech.
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      WHAT TO STATE FOR HIM - regular parts of Russia are fighting there! So what?

      no not like this. What does "who" have to do with it? It's about the quality of the military material.
      Quote: Bashibuzuk
      Well, let it be shaky and screaming - how could it be that we fought with Russia, but it turns out that the homeless defeated us!

      Believe it yourself (I'm talking about snot)? The xoxlovs have a national trend - "Russia is the aggressor!" All. There can be no two opinions, but what good will be taken on a pencil by different interested persons.
    2. ksan
      ksan 20 November 2015 14: 50
      +2
      No, he walks around Moscow and rinses the DNI and LC. Free. Something is not clean here, guys.
      I agree with Bashibuzuk - "there are no exes" in such structures as the FSB, GRU, maybe this "frequent whining" is not for nothing, to return a person to the "game" in a new capacity, or maybe other POLITICAL FORCES using his authority to "blind" from him a policy for solving YOUR "questions". Let's see in half a year what will come of IT. bully
      1. mark7
        mark7 20 November 2015 16: 43
        +1
        Quote: ksan
        No, he walks around Moscow and rinses the DNI and LC. Free. Something is not clean here, guys.
        I agree with Bashibuzuk - "there are no exes" in such structures as the FSB, GRU, maybe this "frequent whining" is not for nothing, to return a person to the "game" in a new capacity, or maybe other POLITICAL FORCES using his authority to "blind" from him a policy for solving YOUR "questions". Let's see in half a year what will come of IT. bully

        Believe me, a person who leaves the office behaves in a completely different way, discipline and the notion that the fatherland is always right, no matter what, has been pumped for life
        1. Bashibuzuk
          Bashibuzuk 20 November 2015 20: 27
          +1
          That's it, that's it.
          He served where the entrance is the ruble, the output is ten.
          And - he served with whom, with tin soldiers, or what?
          Around him were people, associates. like-minded friends.
          Where are they now? Who supports him?
          I don’t hear anything about anyone. All went into the shadows, not to be seen, not to be heard. Not a single interview - they say Igor Igoyan is somehow blissful, shell-shocked either.
          And on the other hand, he would start to carry empty bazaars, so his own fellow friends would also short-circuit, quickly. On the head there, or how it turns out, maybe the timbre would have changed.
          No, and we don’t notice much of this.
          .
          So I say - "... dad, Cossack, that ... sent ...".
  • Baloo
    Baloo 20 November 2015 12: 09
    +8
    The opinion of a man who has never been to the Donbass.
    He is the same Chegevara as Mother Teresa. Girkin is "Trotsky". Behind Trotsky's back was a large Anglo-American financial group linked to the General Staff. I saw in one photo of Trotsky, the British ambassador to Russia in tailcoats with a general of the tsarist general staff in a ceremonial uniform. Perhaps the photo was taken before the revolution, the date is not specified. Ambassador and general relatives.
    Also at Girkin's, he worked in the protection of the Orthodox oligarch Malofeyev, who has a strange American Baptist partner. So the concept of the Russian world - the brainchild of Moscow political strategists - was created to scare Gayrope? Former curator of Girkin, Major General of the KGB, retired, has a son, Major of the US Armed Forces. I see no refutation. Was Malofeyev's goal to intercept Akhmetov's business under the guise of the Novorossiya cranberries? Let's wait and find out. Girkin is being pushed into politics in opposition to GDP, visible without glasses. So Girkin is Trotsky, not Chegevara. By the way, Trotsky was not the only agent of influence among the revolutionaries. Sverdlov: the fastest way to get out of Siberia to Europe and every time with money. Everyone knows about the safe. Kaplan is a friend of Sverdlov's cousin, after being detained from the Cheka, Sverdlov's assistant took her away. Lenin's first words: did you take him? Alternative Kaplan: the killer who was ordered from America by Reilly. I will not clog the air,
    as they say: watch your hands.
    Why won't the miners clearly explain why they squeezed Girkin out of the Donbass? hi
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 20 November 2015 17: 27
      +2
      Why miners do not clearly explain

      Strong question.
      ---
      Only me, I want to know even more - have the murderers of Bednov and Brain been found?
      Did the homeless kill them? What do miners know about these killings?
      Ah, probably because they were liberals and also Freemasons?
      And if an article appears tomorrow that the miners are their killers?
      Should we also believe in this rubbish?
      I won’t believe it.
  • Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 20 November 2015 12: 10
    +1
    Well here it is reality, not ready ???
  • Russian Uzbek
    Russian Uzbek 20 November 2015 12: 12
    +2
    as for Girkin - this is an ordinary idealist ... that’s all ... and don’t think that it’s some kind of stunning Brilliant Strategist! idealists begin revolutions and pragmatists end - Girkin the idealist
  • anfil
    anfil 20 November 2015 12: 17
    +2
    With each speech by Girkin, I notice that he always makes an aspect that Russia needs to be helped by the LDNR troops.

    Well, if “homeless people, dead souls and drunks” are fighting in the LPNR and they cannot be overcome by the APU + pravoseki, I can imagine if normal men start fighting, no help in manpower from Russia will be needed, only have time to supply cartridges.
    By the way, for some reason, on YouTube all these videos are laid out by dill, or maybe it's an info war !?
  • Efimov
    Efimov 20 November 2015 12: 19
    -2
    Everyone who follows the words and statements of this citizen has long understood that he is a traitor.
    1. His
      His 20 November 2015 15: 43
      0
      Absolutely. And moreover, it clearly runs into a conflict with our government. From the very arrival. Even Starikov said that the shooters supported the opponents of Russia.
  • vezunchik
    vezunchik 20 November 2015 12: 23
    +4
    Last Wednesday, November 18, in the court of Rostov Donetsk on the resonant “Savchenko case”, the acting head of the Lugansk People’s Republic Igor Plotnitsky was questioned. At his request, the meeting was closed, but the protest of the advocates of the “Hero of Ukraine” Novikov, Polozov and Feigin, who insisted on an open hearing, was not satisfied. However, this did not become an obstacle to the defense of Savchenko. In any case, soon they promised to provide a detailed transcript of the meeting and “are thinking how to do this,” the lawyers told the press gathered at the courtroom. Journalists, of course, would be interested to hear the very hero of the day, but alas. Igor Venediktovich retired quickly from the court. According to the liberal lawyers. So it remained to be satisfied with only a brief statement of the interrogation of the head of the LPR from the lips of all the same lawyers. However, even it turned out to be enough for a couple of not quite pleasant questions - not to them, not to Savchenko and not to court. To Plotnitsky himself. “His testimony about June 17, 2014 (when the murder of Russian journalists took place. - RP.) Remained vague. He did not support direct accusations against Savchenko, saying that she performed this function as an officer. And like any officer, she could correct the fire and control the fighters, ”Mark Feigin told the assembled press. As the lawyer pointed out, this statement runs counter to the evidence given by Plotnitsky himself, although the rest of the LPR’s head almost didn’t contradict himself, almost a word repeating word for word what he had said during the preliminary investigation. Moreover, according to Mark Feigin, the prosecution witness generally behaved with respect to Savchenko correctly, talked to her “like an officer with an officer” and, it would seem, even with some kind of sympathy. In particular, again, according to the lawyer, he allegedly wished her to be released as soon as possible in order to "solve the problems of the future of Ukraine." Such a feint, as Feigin admitted, genuinely amazed him. But, as the vulgar advertising template says, “and that's not all.” Igor Venediktovich for some minute, if not less, just with his own phrase dismissed Savchenko for participating in the shelling of an unarmed group of militias. Ukrainian pilot Nadezhda Savchenko, accused of involvement in