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The head of the European Commission believes that the time has come to create a single EU army

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Once again, the Eurocrats started talking about the need to create a single army of the European Union. This time the conversation on this topic was started by the head of the European Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker. According to Juncker, he is a consistent supporter of the creation of a single European army, but, according to him, this position was previously criticized in European states. Now Juncker is sure that the issue of creating an army of the European Union must be substantively discussed at the highest level.


The head of the European Commission believes that the time has come to create a single EU army


It should be noted that German Chancellor Angela Merkel is also in favor of creating a single European army. According to her, the army will become a supranational union and can be formed from the composition of the military personnel of the armies of countries belonging to the EU, on a pro-rata basis. At the same time, it is not entirely clear how interaction will be carried out with another supranational military association, NATO, in which the majority of EU countries are members.

Among the opponents of such an idea is the UK, as well as the so-called Young Europeans. Thus, the Lithuanian parliament has already begun a discussion on whether the “elder brothers in NATO and the EU” will not press Vilnius with the aim of sending military troops from Lithuania, for example, to participate in a land operation in Syria.
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  1. Air Force captain
    Air Force captain 19 November 2015 11: 14
    +4
    And who will steal this rabble? ... oh well, yes ... there is a black lord
    1. Temples
      Temples 19 November 2015 11: 15
      +2
      But what about NATO?
      Think what you say!
      NATO will cry !!! crying
      1. cniza
        cniza 19 November 2015 11: 19
        +4
        Quote: Temples
        But what about NATO?
        Think what you say!
        NATO will cry !!!
        Do not tolerate mister !!!


        European officials are trying to keep their places, E.S. bursting at the seams, so they come up with "projects" because there is a reason.
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 19 November 2015 11: 21
          +2
          The United States (they are also the head and skeleton of NATO) hold the strangleholds tightly on chicken necks!
          So, they won't go anywhere from the submarine! While they cluck, they will say "CHEESE" to the beast and that's it!
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      4. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 19 November 2015 11: 27
        0
        The people, and you paid attention to this paragraph?
        Among the opponents of such an idea is the UK, as well as the so-called Young Europeans. Thus, the Lithuanian parliament has already begun a discussion on whether the “elder brothers in NATO and the EU” will not press Vilnius with the aim of sending military troops from Lithuania, for example, to participate in a land operation in Syria.

        Our former younger brothers only want to be protected, and themselves, as they say, "in pa.lu" to fight, "peace-loving" what!
    2. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 19 November 2015 11: 15
      +2
      Will it be EuroNATO? Or create a single army, and then the United States of Europe? Well, exactly the fourth Reich is drawn.
      1. sgazeev
        sgazeev 19 November 2015 15: 53
        0
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Will it be EuroNATO? Or create a single army, and then the United States of Europe? Well, exactly the fourth Reich is drawn.
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      1. kil 31
        kil 31 19 November 2015 11: 25
        +6
        Junker has this idea fixed. He has already been explained several times, the US is against. It may be better for us. The US will have less impact. The EU will be more independent in its decisions, they can simply send the USA with their wars, let them fight themselves. It will be easier for us to engage in dialogue with more independent states.
        1. Altona
          Altona 19 November 2015 11: 51
          +4
          Quote: keel 31
          Junker has this idea fixed. He has already been explained several times, the US is against. It may be better for us. The US will have less impact. The EU will be more independent in its decisions, they can simply send the USA with their wars, let them fight themselves. It will be easier for us to engage in dialogue with more independent states.

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          Wow, an attempt to indicate military independence from the United States ... Uncle Sam’s iron arm is too heavy ... In fact, that is, politically, Junker wants to get rid of NATO and American occupation. What is NATO for? It serves only as a factor of destabilization of Europe, it does not protect against any threats ...
    4. Scoun
      Scoun 19 November 2015 11: 17
      +6
      Quote: Air Force Captain
      And who will steal this rabble?

      This rabble will start to steer "Zemlyachestvo" and hello hazing)))

      Well, really, this European army will look strange .. I don't think that ordinary Germans will serve in Poland in a mixed unit under the command of a Spaniard (the degree of mixing of different peoples is one hundred percent hazing), and if everything is "localized", the Germans are in Germany, the French are in France and the command in Brussels ... then with a certain mess ... how will they interact with each other? something is difficult for me)))
      1. Altona
        Altona 19 November 2015 11: 53
        0
        Quote: Scoun
        Well, indeed, this Euroarmy will look strange .. I do not think that ordinary Germans will serve in Poland in a mixed unit under the command of the Spaniard (the degree of mixing of different peoples is stopudovskaya hazing)

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        And this is already the tenth question, what kind of manning will be there, where will the infrastructure facilities be taken, what will be the command standards ... Now they want to get rid of the patronage of the USA in the military issue ...
    5. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 19 November 2015 11: 17
      +6
      What I wrote here on the site in 2013. They need to abandon NATO, carry out operations only within the EU and if it threatens security. Reduce heavy weapons, and send funds to the joint police and counter-terrorism center.
      1. cniza
        cniza 19 November 2015 11: 21
        +4
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        What I wrote here on the site in 2013. They need to abandon NATO, carry out operations only within the EU and if it threatens security. Reduce heavy weapons, and send funds to the joint police and counter-terrorism center.


        It seems they have missed this opportunity, and the United States would not have allowed it.
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    6. vkl-47
      vkl-47 19 November 2015 11: 17
      +2
      the terrorist attacks in France were made for that. so that the pen. dos again zashashmaril the whole geyropu. beat the doublet. on the one hand igil on the other Moscow. and phishington in profit
    7. horoh
      horoh 19 November 2015 11: 18
      +1
      While the EU creates a single geyarmiya, the black sovereign will deflate. And what's next? winked
      1. Alexey Boukin
        Alexey Boukin 19 November 2015 11: 24
        +2
        Even grandfather Krylov said: "How do you guys do not sit down, everyone is not good for musicians ..."
    8. Vend
      Vend 19 November 2015 11: 25
      +3
      Quote: Captain Air Force
      And who will steal this rabble? ... oh well, yes ... there is a black lord

      To create a single army, you must first create a single Europe. But this is not
      1. Rader
        Rader 19 November 2015 13: 44
        +1
        Quote: Wend
        Quote: Captain Air Force
        And who will steal this rabble? ... oh well, yes ... there is a black lord

        To create a single army, you must first create a single Europe. But this is not

        And create (or choose from the existing ones) a single European language. I am very interested in how the interaction of German, Spanish, French and other "national segments" in the European Army will take place lol Another interesting question: Will this army be equipped with some unified equipment, ammunition ...? Or will each country continue to equip "its segment" of the European Army with the products of its military-industrial complex?
        However, in the case of the creation of a unified army and the creation of a unified military-industrial complex (in the course of "optimization" of national defense), some will earn good profits wink
    9. 79807420129
      79807420129 19 November 2015 11: 27
      +8
      Yes, Juncker just wants to become a sort of European stool, bring the women’s defense ministers of some European countries with them, tear them and cut the budget of this single EU army.
    10. Lelek
      Lelek 19 November 2015 11: 30
      +1
      Quote: Air Force Captain
      And who will steal this rabble?


      The question is, of course, very interesting. IMHO will be "steered" by the one whose "participation" in this army will prevail and who will invest the most in this clumsy creature. But in principle, you are right - Uncle Sam will give the commands, how can it be without his long nose. yes
    11. ultra
      ultra 19 November 2015 13: 19
      +1
      I do not agree with you, the creation of an independent EU army is a step towards getting out of the US patronage.
    12. Juborg
      Juborg 19 November 2015 13: 23
      +1
      The army is united by language and discipline. What will they unite, what is the main language and whether all allies will understand it.
      1. Koshak
        Koshak 19 November 2015 13: 56
        0
        Quote: juborg
        what is the main language and whether all the allies will understand it.

        The one that is not allowed on the site - everyone will understand, learn quickly. wassat
    13. Vovanya
      Vovanya 19 November 2015 14: 59
      0
      They have 4 women defense ministers there, they will appoint another one.
    14. sgazeev
      sgazeev 19 November 2015 15: 46
      0
      Quote: Captain Air Force
      And who will steal this rabble? ... oh well, yes ... there is a black lord

      They run away under NATO, and even under Eurovaffen they will be bolted. wassat
    15. Skif83
      Skif83 19 November 2015 23: 06
      0
      No, the blue should command the blue, even black laughing .
  2. Wolverine
    Wolverine 19 November 2015 11: 15
    +1
    No one can sit aside.
  3. andrey6060
    andrey6060 19 November 2015 11: 16
    0
    Chunker completely freaked out - fucking politician. Does he understand anything at all, or did he blurt out that way?
  4. igor1981
    igor1981 19 November 2015 11: 17
    +1
    And who is this in the photo? Oh yes, it looks like now or in the near future the armies of Europe will look like.
  5. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 19 November 2015 11: 18
    0
    And the Young Europeans are well aware, they will appoint them with cannon fodder.
  6. Magic archer
    Magic archer 19 November 2015 11: 19
    +4
    They won’t succeed! The soldier must defend his homeland and loved ones. And what’s the basis here?! Fight for the EU!? Do not tell. Under such an ideology you’ll send horseradish to Iraq or Afghanistan.
    1. cniza
      cniza 19 November 2015 11: 28
      +2
      Quote: Magic Archer
      They won’t succeed! The soldier must defend his homeland and loved ones. And what’s the basis here?! Fight for the EU!? Do not tell. Under such an ideology you’ll send horseradish to Iraq or Afghanistan.



      One gets the impression that they do not know what fighting spirit, incentives to defend to the end, to die for their homeland. They fight only for grandmas from here and such fighters.
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  7. AlexTires
    AlexTires 19 November 2015 11: 23
    +1
    Ha! Do Europeans get extra money on amusing troops? laughing
    In general, the unification is directed precisely against US pressure - it will be more difficult for the combined forces to provoke a gamble, or to force it. For the time being, they will hide behind Russia, but a serious reorganization awaits NATO. The principle of unity of command will not suffer, just the role of Europe will grow.
    In Russia, such changes will have little effect - the number of troops will not change. But the troops will become more manageable, which means more dangerous.
    1. slaw14
      slaw14 19 November 2015 12: 13
      0
      Finance is secondary here. The main problem is the common command language. May Germans, French, Spaniards not want to execute English orders, as well as the majority in German. There will be disagreement and misunderstanding.
  8. Masya masya
    Masya masya 19 November 2015 11: 23
    +5
    All this verbiage, as they lay under NATO, will continue to lie ... And pay, pay, pay ...
  9. MARGADON
    MARGADON 19 November 2015 11: 26
    0
    Yes, they won’t succeed, they won’t agree on grandmothers. They can’t resettle refugees, but then they will have to make money, and not small, but if there’s a war.
  10. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 19 November 2015 11: 26
    +1
    looks like a dumb stuffing. What will be the principle of formation of personnel, by what principles will the units and subunits of the new army be deployed, in which territories, whose orders will be followed?
  11. gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 19 November 2015 11: 28
    +1
    what will they protect, what common motivation will they have? No one will die for a high level of consumption.
  12. A-Sim
    A-Sim 19 November 2015 11: 38
    0
    2 EU military budgets will not pull. Either NATO, or a single EU army. In my opinion, this is just PR - they have no real mechanism for creating. Yes, they will not be allowed.
  13. raid14
    raid14 19 November 2015 11: 40
    +1
    What's again? Drang nah osten? You guys taught in 1812, and in 1945 you again for the old? Fools are treated with cuffs.
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 19 November 2015 13: 14
      0
      Quote: raid14
      What's again? Drang nah osten? You guys taught in 1812, and in 1945 you again for the old? Fools are treated with cuffs.

      Most likely, if the United States goes to the creation of the European Army, just for the sake of it. But something looking at modern Europe takes doubts about such an opportunity. Or they can’t create it already or they still can’t.
  14. pts-m
    pts-m 19 November 2015 11: 40
    0
    I wonder what these geyropeytsy will do when they accept urine in NATO.
  15. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 19 November 2015 11: 47
    0
    Europe has no money for that. Yes, and why? getting together in a pile to die together was more fun.
  16. Wolka
    Wolka 19 November 2015 11: 48
    0
    quite understandable attempts for the existence of the EU itself, after the events in Paris, NATO is already a clear corpse, its fifth article of the charter has proved its failure, it is quite possible there will be something consolidated military education with a single command, but without the Yankees ...
  17. Zomanus
    Zomanus 19 November 2015 11: 48
    +1
    If the United States is removed from the current NATO, then nothing remains.
    There, in total, even one country does not have enough strength.
    America over the years of creeping occupation has bent all of Europe under itself.
  18. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 19 November 2015 11: 49
    0
    The time has come not to create a unified army, but the EU to fragment. It is clear that the education is not viable (they themselves are to blame; they scored someone who got there). It is clear that the education is purely anti-democratic (no one elects EU commissioners and other Euro-riffraff) and has no right to exist even within the framework of traditional European values. It is clear that education is helpless - it cannot solve the simplest problem with refugees.

    It's time, it's time to break up. EU, goodbye. laughing
  19. capitosha1rang
    capitosha1rang 19 November 2015 12: 05
    +1
    Why not?
    So many southern, hot guys arrived in Europe - they also need something to do. They don’t want to work, they don’t know languages, and nutrition should be supplied to young organisms regularly.
    Having created an army of mercenaries, Europe will solve a couple of its urgent problems, and once again drive out in front of the United States.
    How much we talk and write about it, and there is less and less space left for a civil maneuver. Even in the comments.
    Write about them - CATTLE - not offended?
  20. iouris
    iouris 19 November 2015 12: 33
    0
    And this army will look like the French national football team.
  21. roskot
    roskot 19 November 2015 12: 42
    0
    Is this another club of interest suggested?
  22. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 19 November 2015 12: 55
    0
    The head of the European Commission believes that the time has come to create a single EU army
    that's right. suppress riots somehow. Now Europe will sing.
  23. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 19 November 2015 13: 04
    0
    And why is everyone sure that the mattress is against? If they create with a bias for war with Russia, then why not?
    And the "cons" is for suckers. Can this be? Can.
  24. Buffalo
    Buffalo 19 November 2015 13: 50
    0
    What is behind this proposal to create a unified EU army? Perhaps this is an attempt to get rid of American dominance, but, most likely, they are preparing for war. And the "hot" proud Baltic guys will not go anywhere - they will drag and force on the lasso! Those who do not wish will be strangled. Such is the "democracy" ...
    Apparently, Western Europe cannot be corrected. Leopard change his spots. And we will actively contribute to this.
  25. Mountain spacecraft
    Mountain spacecraft 19 November 2015 14: 00
    0
    I don’t know what principle the formation of military units will be, but we need Croats with Bosnians and even Albanians in the same company (regiment, division). Well, that would not be so boring.
  26. trantor
    trantor 19 November 2015 14: 24
    0
    United Europe is falling apart before our eyes. The level of distrust begins to roll over, and they talked about some kind of unified power structure. Previously, you had to think.
  27. max15243
    max15243 19 November 2015 16: 54
    +1
    The creation of a single European army is work for decades without guarantees of success:
    1. Any army implies one-man management, who in the European army is the commander in chief?
    2. Organizational staff structure can be torn off according to the NATO model, but how to organize units? for one national thing, this was an issue (the same units could only be called differently), no one canceled the multinational-language barrier (in a stressful situation and in their native language, it doesn’t reach some).
    3. The most important thing is who will pay? The army is troublesome and terribly expensive. And whoever nevertheless will pay will not indicate to others the supremacy.
    In Europe, human life is considered the highest value, but in practice it turns out that someone is more valuable (France) and someone not very (Ukraine, Syria, Iraq, African countries, etc., etc.))
  28. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 19 November 2015 16: 59
    0
    usa will not give them an army to create
  29. Evgeny Khokhlov
    Evgeny Khokhlov 19 November 2015 18: 19
    0
    Maybe it's good! Because Europe and its army will not need American bases.