ICBM "Frontier" Americans will be shown next year

Demonstration of the latest Russian missile PC-26 "Frontier" American inspectors moved to 2016 g, reports Look with reference to tass.

“According to the decision of the Ministry of Defense, the screening of a group of American inspectors of our new intercontinental ballistic missile RS-26 was postponed from November 2015 to 2016 year, the new timeline has not been determined yet,” a military source told the agency.

"The American side was notified of this decision, it took note of it," the source said.

According to him, "during the demonstration of the rocket at the Votkinsk engineering plant in Udmurtia, in accordance with the START-3 agreement, the Americans will receive certain data on the technical characteristics of the PC-26, which distinguish it from the existing Yars and Topol-M missiles."

Also, the Russian side “will provide the inspectors with photos of the PC-26 if a request is received,” the source said, adding that the Americans will also be able to “view and measure the rocket, while they will not be able to touch and shoot it, nor will they see launcher ".

Earlier it was reported that the demonstration of the rocket will be held in November 2015 g.

The control launch of the PC-26 was held in March of the current year. According to media reports, its mass production is scheduled for the end of 2015-th - the beginning of 2016.

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[Air Force captain]

The news is good ... the topic is pleasant ... but I wouldn’t tear myself up ...

[SRC P-15]

Americans will also be able to "inspect and measure the missile, while they will not be able to touch and remove it, nor will they see the launcher."

So I see a poster in front of the eyes of the Americans: "Don't touch with your hands!"

[Baikonur]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

"Do not touch!"

And then fractures can not be avoided!

And so - a cute lifesaver! Equal such. Magical

[vovanpain]

Quote: Baikonur

! Even like that. Magical

And if the course comes to visit.

[Vasek]

Quote: vovanpain

And if the course comes to visit.

Want to go to America?
Go serve in the Strategic Missile Forces.

[podpolkovnik]

Quote: Vasek

Quote: vovanpain

And if the course comes to visit.

Want to go to America?
Go serve in the Strategic Missile Forces.

[Aleksander]

Quote: vovanpain

Quote: Baikonur

! Even like that. Magical

And if the course comes to visit.

Why would amers go somewhere? See at home . And appreciate

[Duke]

Quote: SRC P-15

Americans will also be able to "inspect and measure the missile, while they will not be able to touch and remove it, nor will they see the launcher."

So I see a poster in front of the eyes of the Americans: "Don't touch with your hands!"

[Temples]

ICBM "Frontier" Americans will be shown next year

And where is the launch scheduled?

[Throw]

Touch "Frontier" and die ...

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Lance

Touch "Frontier" and die ...

And do not touch our BOUNDARY !!!

[remy]

on average, the production of a heavy rocket at the initial stage takes 1,5-2 months
those. at least 4 products have already been manufactured since March!
- regiment!

[ANTI.KORR.]

Quote: Lance

Touch "Frontier" and die.

Quote: Starover_Z

And do not touch our BOUNDARY !!!

let their dandies touch and measure

[Samaritan]

Already there were, by the way, the Americans were present in 2011 With Serdyukov attack! Then the 1st step worked before! In 2012, successful, this year in March, as usual Cabbage Yar!

[pv1005]

Quote: Temples

ICBM "Frontier" Americans will be shown next year

And where is the launch scheduled?

The main thing is where? And who will look at the point of arrival?

[saturn.mmm]

Quote: Temples

And where is the launch scheduled?

More relevant where.

[Ezhaak]

Quote: Temples

And where is the launch scheduled?

The launch will be from one of the starting positions, which is not planned to be demonstrated. They will take the case out to the street, place it on the stocks and look, you bastards, look, just don’t lose your sight.

[Dry_T-50]

And, more precisely, where?

[sever.56]

Alexander, welcome
Immediately I remember the comedy "Shirley-Myrli" and how the character of Dzhigarkhanyan, when he saw that the diamond was a fake, shouted: - "What - (hereinafter the steamer whistle) changed the diamond" !!! So I would like to yell: - "What an infection the treaty on START-3 was concluded on such conditions that the Americans are walking around such an enterprise like at home" !!!
We would have given all the technical documentation and production technologies of Rubezh at once ...

[leo3972]

Break the contract and send the mattress to where Makar did not drive calves

[leo3972]

They want to see, see on them and try

[avdkrd]

Quote: sever.56

"What - (hereinafter the steamer whistle) changed the diamond" !!!

Quote: sever.56

"What an infection the START-3 treaty concluded on such conditions that the Americans are walking around such an enterprise like at home!"

Yes, it is known what kind of "beep" these agreements signed, but specifically in terms of visiting objects as far as I know, mutually.

[SRC P-15]

Quote: sever.56

So I would like to yell: - "What an infection the treaty on START-3 was concluded on such conditions that the Americans are walking around such an enterprise like at home" !!!

Greetings, Valery!
So for the iPhone, what can’t you do!

[LVMI1980]

Yes, after the "Minuteman" they could not do anything ...

[zhekazs]

Let them see, understand and shake with fear, realizing with WHAT Country they are trying to flirt and what will happen to their houses when such beauties come to visit them. And knowing that their so-called state cannot do this. Let them envy and fear ...

[79807420129]

Well, on the one hand, it’s right. Look, adversaries, if you bark this nuclear hotel under its own power it will come and impose a resolution.

[Gray-haired]

"Do not touch!" from below finely: "I'll unscrew my head!"

[V.ic]

Quote: Gray

"The head unscrew! "

...eggs ... tear!!

[aleksfill]

It must be assumed that the Americans are arranging shows for the latest models of rocket technology
to our specialists.

[NEXUS]

Quote: aleksfill

It must be assumed that the Americans are arranging shows for the latest models of rocket technology
to our specialists.

And there, and BZHRK BARGUZIN not far to take on duty.

[Ajent cho]

It must be assumed that the Americans are arranging shows for the latest models of rocket technology

No: they haven’t released anything new for 30 years.

[nik39reg]

And it’s best to arrange an exhibition of our ICBMs in the USA. Send exhibits to the exhibition on their own

[cherkas.oe]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

So I see a poster in front of the eyes of the Americans: "Don't touch with your hands!"

And comrade ensign next to a stick in case of an attack of curiosity among uninvited guests.

[Gormenghast]

A poster would be better "Except dogs and Americans"

[yushch]

Quote: SRC P-15

Americans will also be able to "inspect and measure the missile, while they will not be able to touch and remove it, nor will they see the launcher."

So I see a poster in front of the eyes of the Americans: "Don't touch with your hands!"

And especially not to shoot. With the current possibilities of creating microcams that you cannot really see with the naked eye, it will be very difficult to prohibit shooting.
But I hope the receiving side will come up with something.

[proletarian]

You won't be able to shoot like that, they use the electronic warfare to the fullest; look the most "inquisitive" and they will fry up "buffet after smotrin".

[Oleneboy_]

there are devices that respond to optics ... so it’s impossible to remove

[WYCCTPUJIA]

Better this way ... "Wash your hands before ....."

[shosha]

The goods are expensive, hand-assembled, wholesale deliveries are possible, delivery is free ...

[Dixismr]

Accidentally put a minus.

It’s easier to handcuff a rocket behind the back. P.ndosam and can only sniff its end.

[Serg81]

Yeah in english

[Serg81]

Yeah in english

[viktorrymar]

To tear from what?
I just don’t understand why the Yusovites should show something, let them break their heads))))

[Sterlya]

why show? Do they show us? Even if they show, why do we need it?

[Samaritan]

Quote: Sterlya

why show? Do they show us? Even if they show, why do we need it?

Because it does not fall under the limitations of the Treaty on the destruction of the INF Treaty because it is up to 5500 km ... So they don’t believe it, they want to make sure!

[Samaritan]

They have been tearing up farts since 2013: November 26 - http://www.thedailybeast.com reports that a group of US Congress senators turned to the US Department of State with a request for violations by Russia of the INF Treaty ... because ... The border does not fall , under the INF Treaty ... as always, the logic is on the level!

[Samaritan]

And who is minus?

[V.ic]

Quote: Samaritan

who is minus?

... Bells, mishandled!

[Samaritan]

I even guess who ... competitors,
Tests of the MZKT-792911 chassis at a training ground in Belarus. Estimated January 2015

[SPACE]

Quote: viktorrymar

I just don’t understand why the Yusovites should show something, let them break their heads))))

This is why the "fist" was shown to break their heads.

[Lt. Air Force stock]

Quote: Air Force Captain

but wouldn’t bother ...

If you are hinting at the USSR, then not nuclear weapons (missiles) consumed the lion's share of the military budget, but conventional weapons: ships, submarines, fighters, etc.

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: Captain Air Force

The news is good ... the topic is pleasant ... but I wouldn’t tear myself up ...

Yes, they shouldn’t be like ... Weapons and the modern Army are money and contracts! Power has been respected at all times, especially if it is fair and can only be protected by its presence! Russia has always strived for this ... The truth should be with fists (calluses on the knuckles of your fist ...) You will show this and everyone immediately understands what could be. ..Kind of correctly expressed his idea?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Americans will be shown next year

[marlin1203]

Well, let's face it up with "missiles" ...

[Vitaly Anisimov]

Quote: marlin1203

Well, let's face it up with "missiles" ...

Rockets are our insurance .... Alas, you cannot! In the 90s, I remember trying to disarm and withdraw troops everywhere, and what ???? Blood and devastation began everywhere .. Yes, and now it is! West vomits and tosses that overslept RUSSIAN REVIVAL! Late already gentlemen, late ..

[Private Starley]

Ahha, be measured)))

There is an international congress of sexologists. Speaker American:
- In our laboratory, a powder is made that allows you to increase the penis by 10
cm! Applause in the hall. Speaker Frenchman:
- In our laboratory, a potion has been created that increases the penis by 15
cm! Applause in the hall. Speaks Georgians:
- Mi invented pills, because of which the penis becomes like a melon! - ?! Question
from the hall:
- In length or in width?
- Prejede vsego mi imeem referring to the inclusion of quality!

[Altona]

Quote: Air Force Captain

The ovost is good ... the topic is pleasant ... but I wouldn’t tear myself up ...

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Well, how nice? If an urgent parcel went to them, to the Pentagon or the Capitol, then it would have been even nicer ...

[marinier]

And then, dear program?
As it is to me, in matters of defense, of my State.
Price has no value.
Regards.

[Nick]

Quote: Captain Air Force

The news is good ... the topic is pleasant ... but I wouldn’t tear myself up ...

And tomorrow is the Day of the Missile Forces and Artillery. The good news is right for the holiday.

[Tor5]

Or can they show them some mock-up from afar of frightening sizes?

[222222]

ICBM "Rubezh" will be shown to Americans next year "

..not to swim for a buoy !! ...

[Gronsky]

To show new missiles to the worst enemy, while letting you take a picture and measure it, this is some kind, your will, of sadomasochismophrenia. A vile burp of corrupt nineties.
Justify as you like, but in my head it does not fit.
I can’t imagine that the Yankees would do the same.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Gronsky

Show new missiles to the worst enemy, while letting you take a picture

I fully share your concerns. Where do our special services look? Even from the drawing to the article, any, the most novice, spy will make a 100% conclusion that the newest Russian ICBM consists of red, white, blue and yellow components in various proportions and combinations. The secret lies on the surface. SMERSH on them is not present.

Well, seriously, I don’t think that the US will be shown more than what is permitted. That which is enough for them to realize their inferiority and vulnerability.

[Basarev]

Eh. Ballistic missiles are riveted easily and freely. And in space there is a complete seam. Think about it: the flight to the moon is thought up for the thirtieth year! Almost seventy years after the flight of the Americans! Meanwhile, these industries - astronautics and ICBMs - sort of like twin brothers.

[Observer2014]

ICBM "Frontier" Americans will be shown next year
This is not for you. You need to understand the depth of our depths !!!

[Mikhail Krapivin]

A gorgeous movie, an early deceased actor is a pity.

[katalonec2014]

Good ... like an aspen stake.

[cniza]

Quote: katalonec2014

Good ... like an aspen stake.

And the purpose, as with an aspen stake, is only designed for a large group at once.

[Strezhevchanin]

The border will be shown abroad !!!?

[alexng]

And they will direct it on their own along an unpredictable trajectory ...

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: alexneg

And they will direct it on their own along an unpredictable trajectory ...

And exclusively false goals)))

[Dmitry Potapov]

It is necessary to show on the lawn in front of the White House by sending it under its own power, let them admire and study the wonderful consequences.

[Angro Magno]

Got ahead. I had to delete my comment.

[Alexander 3]

We will not only show them the rocket, we will show them something else.

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: Alexander 3

We will not only show them the rocket, we will show them something else.

There kakbe kuzkina mother by default is attached.

[Spnsr]

Quote: Strezhevchanin

Quote: Alexander 3

We will not only show them the rocket, we will show them something else.

There kakbe kuzkina mother by default is attached.

it is already possible and kuzkin atets campaign

[Alexander 3]

Cousin mom they constantly dream.

[Jack-b]

that the Americans will, in addition, “inspect and measure the rocket, while they will not be able to touch and remove it, nor will they see the launcher.”

Will they be given bibs?

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: Jack-B

that the Americans will, in addition, “inspect and measure the rocket, while they will not be able to touch and remove it, nor will they see the launcher.”

Will they be given bibs?

Silikogel pour in Trukhan)))

[semuel]

For the sake of pleasure, they intrigue.

[Gomel]

Well, straight bastards, mock at unhappy Americans :)

[Gomel]

Yes, let’s touch, only 220v must be connected ... we do not mind

[dsi]

"The American side is notified of this decision, it took note of it,"

... and realized that the "red line" for Russia has long been an anecdote!

[Old26]

Have you grumbled ??? Well, thank God. Drawing - from a give a damn. I could still understand if they wrote that this is a drawing of the "Sarmat" ICBM, but "Rubezh" ....

For especially smart. According to strategic arms treaties, both sides show each other new complexes before being delivered to armaments ...

[BaLaLaykin]

Sarmatian is ready, now pu under him mastered

[Oblomov]

Again, bad luck!

[win]

They called the "governor" "Satan".
And how they will call "Rubezh". After all, she is worse ...

[staryivoin]

Will be called "The Threshold of the Underworld." And it will be right, they want to measure their strength - RUSSIA will show them "MOTHER, DO NOT BURN!"

[Spnsr]

Quote: Siegen

They called the "governor" "Satan".
And how they will call "Rubezh". After all, she is worse ...

Quote: staryivoin

Will be called "The Threshold of the Underworld." And it will be right, they want to measure their strength - RUSSIA will show them "MOTHER, DO NOT BURN!"

Adnak's “red line”!

[Manul]

Quote: Siegen

They called the "governor" "Satan".
And how they will call "Rubezh". After all, she is worse ...

And is it compared things? And here is how Sarmat will be called - this is really interesting.

[yuriy55]

They called the "governor" "Satan".
And how they will call "Rubezh". After all, she is worse ...

We need to call "3,14 CHAIR IN AMERICA"

Newspaper headlines:
"The Russians brought" 3,14there to America "
"The United States has never seen such a" 3,14 in America "
"Russian" 3,14 zdets "and American" Atlas "- compare the characteristics, who is cooler?"
etc.

[3officer]

They will show it and show it. Only they can enjoy the spectacle for only a few seconds.

[viktor561]

Quote: Siegen

And how they will call "Rubezh". After all, she is worse ...

How, how - "Mother Yadrena"

[Barakuda]

Where will they show? I'll lie down and take a look.
Maybe someone is sponsoring pro in Washington?

[mvg]

If there were no START treaty, all of Europe would be flooded with Pershing, with an arrival time of less than 5-10 minutes .. and what good is that? States to Europe us..t, from the bell tower. Our liquid-propellant rockets, at that time, required more time to "swing". And America would have a BIG temptation to cover everything with a preemptive strike with the use of tactical nuclear weapons. These are not "axes" for you, which will fly for hours .. These are mine and mobile complexes - a command came in, and a couple of thousand missiles left, after 10 minutes there is no air defense or a decent response.
But how beautiful we are "quacking" ..

[Raven1972]

Quote: mvg

Our liquid-propellant rockets, at that time, required more time to "swing".

R-36M UTTH: The modernization of the control system consisted in the implementation of more complete control laws with a reduction of methodological errors to almost zero, as well as an increase in the memory of the computer. At the same time, firing accuracy was improved by 2.5 times, the time the missile was ready for launch was reduced to 62s.
You are not confused with the R-7? You can see right away - you have nothing to do with the Strategic Missile Forces

Quote: mvg

all of Europe would be overrun by Pershing

With a range of 1800 km))) Before you write something, you can first clarify the performance characteristics of what you are writing about And they were deployed in Europe only 120 at the time of the INF Treaty + 127 undeployed - only 227 missiles, where you saw 2000 there ?????
And if you take into account that most of the silos R-36 was located at a distance greater than 2000 km from the border - there was a reply than even after perching, somehow ...
I’m not writing about the UR-100M yet, but there are also a lot of them, + blue and so on at the SSBN ...

Quote: mvg

START

Actually, the START treaty has nothing to do with the INF Treaty))) That was a separate treaty from the Gorbachev era And also OSV-1 and OSV-2 of the late 70s - early 80s

But how beautiful we are "quacking" ..

So far, you’re grunting here, not understanding the issue

[mvg]

Yes, I have nothing to do with the Strategic Missile Forces, more, you know, was involved in termites, mosquitoes, wasps

The post wrote about Pershing'gah "in the common declension. Which would now be located in Poland, Romania, Bulgaria. And would be pulled up to Ukraine.
Together with missile defense. And in quantity, not 120 pcs.

Or do you seriously believe that the ATS would not fall apart. The START Treaty is later, and not the fact that it would have been at all.
And my opinion was that the United States, having sacrificed Europe, could start a war.

If you want to talk about 1987, it’s easy.

In the first salvo of the United States, there are 100 Pershing, plus 590 Axes (in the European part), and 490 Poseidons (6 boshes) with 30 submarines at ICBM bases outside the Urals.

R-36 deployment time 5 minutes (standard),
// perhaps the R-36M had 62 seconds, did not stand with a stopwatch but I doubt //
As you say, we will not count the Minutemen.

Then the strategic and tactical aircraft will iron.

In total, 1-2 BZHRK remain on duty and some mobile units plus something in the mines.
All of this is unlikely to cause irreparable damage to North America.

Europe has no chance of surviving, after 300 pieces of SS-20, with 3 heads, and SS-23 was not.
Yes, most likely, we could strike back at America.

Am I wrong somewhere?

[Sartorius]

And ICBMs on the nuclear submarine, well, they would have demolished the ground potential, the boats would still be shot.

[mvg]

We did not have 31 carriers, at best on combat duty, at the same time there were 2-3 boats. Really less. And it’s even more realistic that everyone left the base already accompanied by a multi-purpose American. Since 1983 (4), our boats have been trying to keep watch closer to the shores of America. Those. were not protected by anyone, neither by the ice cap on top, nor by the Navy, like the Americans.
Really would shoot 1-2. Rather, 1. Not deadly. For the destruction of the USSR, you can pay a dozen cities. Just guogle .. Nothing personal.

[Raven1972]

Quote: mvg

Really less. And it’s even more realistic that everyone left the base already accompanied by a multi-purpose American

Read about the Atrin operation - you will be interested - the division left the base in Lytsa and disappeared ... And no multi-purpose Americans could do anything))))

Quote: mvg

We did not have 31 carriers

Now there is no ((((And in the 80s there were, and new ones were under construction ...

[Raven1972]

Quote: mvg

If you want to talk about 1987, it’s easy.

Quote: mvg

In the first salvo of the United States, there are 100 Pershing, plus 590 Axes (in the European part), and 490 Poseidons (6 boshes) with 30 submarines at ICBM bases outside the Urals.

Maksim SPRN and SKKP you do not consider? Start is detected at a time - i.e. the western direction and the eastern direction were covered tightly at that moment ... Further - there were no 87 Axes in Europe in 590))) The total number of missiles deployed at that time (with Pershing together) 572 Next - what is the flying time of axes? Yes, and they go astray, the good of air defense at that time was still normal, Pershing - with a real range of 1400-1770 km, they also don’t do much weather, some amount will be shot down by the same A-135 - which will fly close ... That's it the rest has a flight time of 20min. During this time, EVERYTHING that we had was shot back - but at that time there were only R-36M UTTH 300 pieces, there were constantly about 200 on the database, 10 goals each, + UR-100M, N, + Poplar (only in my division in the first salvo 48 pieces flew away) - and how many of them were such divisions? And yes, the runway R-36M UTTH 62s. , R-5 had only the first samples for 36 minutes, with each modification this time was reduced ... So there was something to answer with, guaranteed ... That's how Maxim somehow, but about now - we have what we have ... There below, I have unsubscribed to Vladimir (Drevnyi26) about contracts and everything else ...

[Raven1972]

Quote: mvg

R-36 deployment time 5 minutes (standard),

Maksim R-36 does not need to be deployed - on the database they are already fully equipped and ready for launch in the silos, only the runway (launch preparation time) matters - i.e. test program run and start directly. In the first R-36s this time was exactly 5 minutes, in the R-36M UTTX - 62s.

[Algetxnumx]

Quote: vovanpain

And if the course comes to visit.

Ehh, my favorite picture, landscape, you will admire.

[Algetxnumx]

Quote: Barracuda

Maybe someone is sponsoring pro in Washington?

And what for, on radioactive ruins hanging around?

[win]

And what for, on radioactive ruins hanging around?

Or maybe he was going fishing in the strait between Mexico and Alaska?

[Barakuda]

I will SELL an apartment, a summer house, a car. I’ll go to meet Fidel’s brother.

[Cis-Urals]

They will show amers, with home delivery. More precisely, to the white house. As there: the whole world is in ruin But seriously, I’m glad that the military-industrial complex does not stand still.

[Buffalo]

There is an assumption that we will demonstrate "Rubezh" to the Americans together with the long-promised "Kuzka's mother".

[Lt. Air Force stock]

While this START-3 treaty "plays with one goal," the United States does not create new land-based or sea-based ICBMs, but only modernizes the old ones, and we create and must demonstrate everything.

[mag nit]

Send her to Washington - let them look and appreciate.

[Pak_c_TonopoM]

showing to a group of American inspectors


Why am I apologizing ... i.e. Do they inspect us ??? Those. are we their vassals ??? This phrase comes out just like that

[RusDV]

in 2016 the pindos will be warned: "flew out ... meet ... meet ..."

[roskot]

Look then look. But do not you dare to feel. Not kissed yet.

[BaLaLaykin]

http://lenta.ru/news/2015/11/17/sarmat/
Good news too

[Old26]

Quote: sever.56

"What an infection the treaty on START-3 was concluded on such conditions that the Americans are walking around in such an enterprise like at home" !!!

What is the name of the infection that entered into the START-3 treaty? Yes, no problems - Dmitry Anatolyevich ... And why did you get the idea that the Americans are walking around the enterprise ???

Quote: leo3972

Break the contract and send the mattress to where Makar did not drive calves

Thank God that you are not the president of Russia. Otherwise, they would break all the treaties, make things up and quietly rush off until their own people hit you ...

Quote: Sterlya

why show? Do they show us? Even if they show, why do we need it?

You know. There is such a word - AGREEMENT. Especially if he is in strategic arms, then both sides try to keep him. So in the contract there is such a thing - inspection. And they are mutual. If you want, you can not let the Americans violate the agreement, but then you should not be offended if they violate it ... Which is extremely unprofitable for us

Quote: Siegen

"Voevoda" they called "Satan". And how they will call "Rubezh". After all, she is worse ...

Not yet. But it is possible that it will receive the same word designation as "Topol", "Topol-M" and "Yars", since we have it under the EMNIP name "Yars-M"

Quote: mvg

There would be no START treaty, all of Europe would be overrun by the Pershing, with an arrival time of less than 5-10 minutes

And if you follow the advice of some writers here and break all the agreements, then the missiles will appear much closer and the flight time will be about 3 minutes. But many, Maxim, do not give a damn about it. The main thing is to show our steepness ... like "Frontier" with home delivery in Washington... At the same time, they do not think that "Tridents" can also arrive with home delivery.

Quote: Lt. air force reserve

While this START-3 treaty "plays with one goal," the United States does not create new land-based or sea-based ICBMs, but only modernizes the old ones, and we create and must demonstrate everything.

Would you rather we didn't know how many goals are on the Trident? 4, how by contract or 14? Well, work on new missiles in the United States, if not yet underway, will begin in the near future. Conventional names (so far) - Trident E-6 and Minuteman-4. What then are we going to tell the Americans? Why don't you demonstrate? Since there is such a provision under the agreement, it is observed. We show them not only new, but also old rockets. Just new ones will be shown at the factory, and not in the military unit

Quote: Pak_c_TonopoM

Why am I apologizing ... i.e. Do they inspect us ??? Those. are we their vassals ??? This phrase comes out just like that

No need to invent what is not: vassals ... And if we inspect them, do you think they are our vassals?

[Raven1972]

Quote: Old26

And if you follow the advice of some writers here and break all the agreements, then the missiles will appear much closer and the flight time will be 3 minutes

Vladimir The START-1,2,3 treaty has no relation to the INF Treaty, I already wrote above - this is the Gorbachev Treaty on the INF Treaty and the preceding OSV-1 and 2, you should know
Next - flight time to where? To silos R-36 and UR-100? For pershing-2 - it will be far away))) Even if you allow 3 minutes - the R-36m UTTX starts in 62s - the answer will arrive anyway Yes, and Poplar with Yars and UR-100 and SSBNs should not be written off, so that’s enough for everyone ... And the trident is a sea rocket, it will start from afar, so there’s enough time at all ...
P.S. And about compliance with the treaties - they need to be respected while they are profitable for us by some kind, and only while they are profitable - a striking example of merikmeriza and the ABM treaty ...

[hartlend]

You can drag the show until the sanctions are lifted, until ISIS is defeated, until the peoples of Africa stop starving, etc. In general, beat the enemy with his own weapons. They will see when they arrive in the states ... on a friendly visit.

[pvv113]

ICBM "Frontier" Americans will be shown next year

This year they were shown so much to them - the adversaries almost went crazy. It is necessary to protect their health, otherwise they will die - what shall we do?

[shimus]

Yes, but the demonstration of this product is best done in the United States, so as not to bother them with a long flight. In addition, the product must deliver itself to the place of display !!!

[cap]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Andrey Yurievich (3) SU Today, 18: 04 ↑ New

Americans will be shown next year

The photographer did not completely remove the door to the warhead.
There is also an inscription below.
"Do not go in boots" slippers in the locker.

[cap]

The previous one was called "Satan" this will be "Devil"
or by historical analogy with "Kuzkin's mother" "Kuzkin's grandfather"
And what's cool, to report "Ser ... here they called from the Kremlin ... a new negotiator instead of Lavrov to wait for Kuzka's grandfather!"

[KRIG55]

Wonderful are your deeds, Lord! Even three years ago, for one mention of a "frontier" in open correspondence, it could hurt to flare the ass, and tomorrow we will demonstrate "iron" to an exclusive nation.

[veksha50]

I hope that the same "incident" will happen with "Rubezh" as with "Caliber" ...

What amers will show is one thing, but what goes into service is something else ...

PS I mean range ...

[sharp-lad]

Well, where does the "Caliber" sea-based?

[veksha50]

Quote: sharp-lad

Well, where does the "Caliber" sea-based?

Despite the fact that the comment you are responding to, you need to read carefully ...

"PS I mean range ..." ...

[sharp-lad]

Well, where does the "Caliber" sea-based?

[Old26]

Quote: Gronsky

I can’t imagine that the Yankees would do the same

However come

Quote: Raven1972

Vladimir START-1,2,3 Treaty has no relation to the INF Treaty, I already wrote above - this is the Gorbachev INF Treaty and the preceding OSV-1 and 2, you should know

I know Boris. About 3 minutes I wrote in principle as a remark to the phrase of Maxim (mvg) about 7 minutes of Pershing flight time. And he also knows that this is the INF Treaty. It simply forgets to "wave it off" from those wishing to break all contracts. And START and RIAC.

Quote: Raven1972

Next - flight time to where? To silos R-36 and UR-100? For pershing-2 - it will be far away))) Even if you allow 3 minutes - the R-36m UTTX starts in 62s - the answer will arrive anyway

Well, our press always indicated a flight time of 7 minutes "to Moscow"... Although research carried out at the MIT at one time showed that with the head that was then on the Pershing-2 (W85), it did not reach Moscow, and its real range was about 1800 km, as the Americans, in principle, indicated. But the Politburo needed a threat so that the range was 2500 km and the USSR insisted on this very range in negotiations.
So flight time of 3 minutes with the location of medium-range missiles in the Baltic states exactly to Moscow.
But if we talk about the firing range, then with a range of 1500 km they cover all bases in the European part of Russia, at 2000 km - and Orenburg (well, this is purely theoretical)

Quote: Raven1972

P.S. And about compliance with the treaties - they need to be respected while they are profitable for us by some kind, and only while they are profitable - a striking example of merikmeriza and the ABM treaty ...

I am repeating this to everyone who wants to break the contract. The same agreement on the INF Treaty is still beneficial for us. Votkinsk will not pull everything at once. And Mace, and Yars, and Rubezh, and Barguzin, and even medium-range missiles. And so we do half a year of products a year, and if you deploy the ballistic missile defense system, then their number must be increased quickly. And withdraw from the agreement (any) as the Americans did and as prescribed in the relevant articles

[Raven1972]

Quote: Old26

... Although studies conducted at the MIT in due time showed that with the head that was then on the Pershing-2 (W85) it did not reach Moscow, and its real range was about 1800 km, as the Americans pointed out in principle.

Vladimir So they therefore had to deliver axes from the UBC to Europe - the Pershing range was by no means enough from the territory of the then Federal Republic of Germany)))

Quote: Old26

I am repeating this to everyone who wants to break the contract. The same INF Treaty is still beneficial for us

I agree, t.b. that in Europe there aren’t any BRDS available, so for now let it be, and we know how to hide something interesting from prying eyes better than anyone else in the world, I just feel sorry for the Pioneers (((( They merged them so mediocre (((They torn 384 Pershing, and we 728 Pioneers (burning a hunchback in hell for this) in my opinion - it was necessary to cut bash on bash (384/384) and transfer the rest to the Urals - to scare China, well, if necessary - relocate where we need

[Old26]

Quote: cap

The previous one was called "Satan" this will be "Devil"

There will be no The wrong English letter begins

Quote: shimus

Yes, but the demonstration of this product is best done in the United States, so as not to bother them with a long flight. In addition, the product must deliver itself to the place of display !!!

Damn, how did you get it, uryakalki. And do not want to receive a "trident" on your head in return? What kind of morbid desires, bordering on a chronic disease, which are treated in a hospital with bars on the windows, will be shot at the territory of a nuclear power that has more carriers than we do?

Quote: hartlend

You can drag the show until the sanctions are lifted, until ISIS is defeated, until the peoples of Africa stop starving, etc. In general, beat the enemy with his own weapons. They will see when they arrive in the states ... on a friendly visit.

Another one who wants to start a nuclear war. It’s not profitable for us to delay the show, and we will be guilty of violating the Agreement

[shosha]

There will be no one to show the proto for the second time.

[Old26]

Quote: Lalaika

Sarmatian is ready, now pu under him mastered

Of course I’m ready. Throwing trials have not yet been, not to mention others - it is now called ready ...

Quote: veksha50

I hope that the same "incident" will happen with "Rubezh" as with "Caliber" ...

It won't happen. And there was no incident. The Americans knew very well that the non-export version was distinguished by a longer range, as, in principle, the same Iskander. In 2013, the commander of the Caspian Flotilla voiced the ranges of both the 54th and 14th models. At about the same time, maybe a little earlier or later (I don't remember anymore) they shot the Severodvinsk. Do you think our "sworn friends" did not record these shootings ?? So the "incident" is for the media and, of course, for us, especially for those who do not follow this. Here, yes, we suddenly "suddenly" learned that the "Caliber" for shooting at ground targets flies farther than we knew ... But these are our problems

Quote: veksha50

What will be shown to Amers is one thing, but what goes into service is something else ... PS I mean the range ...

Where does this pathological desire to substitute your own country come from ??? Or do you think they are so dumb that they don’t know how ranges are calculated ?? They have no suckers in the inspectors. Talk, if you know one of our soldiers who accompanied these inspections. Meticulous until I can’t ...

[Aandrewsir]

Thundering fire, sparkling with a gleam of steel. menacing rockets will go to take off ... This is x = orsho. that our strategic nuclear potential is being updated. Good news!

[proletarian]

Well, as the song says: Slowly rockets float away into the distance ...

[magician]

beautiful, not like a scalpel!)))

[Old26]

Quote: Raven1972

They merged them so mediocre (((They torn 384 Pershing, and we 728 Pioneers (burning a hunchback in hell for this) in my opinion - it was necessary to cut bash on bash (384/384) and transfer the rest to the Urals - to scare China, well, if necessary - relocate where we need

So initially ours suggested so. And not just beyond the Urals, but to locate it in the East, at most Krasnoyarsk (this is EMNIP even under Andropov). It was only Shevardnadze's, and of course Gorbachev's, consent to "complete zero" that led to such results. Well, the "Oka" went with a makeweight, which did not fit in any way

[Raven1972]

Quote: Old26

Well, the "Oka" went with a makeweight, which did not fit in any way

And for Oka he generally does not have forgiveness For cutting the complex in such a way that NEVER did not pass under this agreement ((((One word - TRAITORS !!! I still don’t have any decent words for this camarilla (some emotions and those are obscene )

Quote: Old26

And not just beyond the Urals, but located precisely in the East

Well, I meant it when I said - "for the Urals"

[ANTI.KORR.]

Quote: Old26

and of course Gorbachev to "complete zero" and led to such results. Well, the "Oka" went with a makeweight, which did not fit in any way

here he is still alive

[Old26]

Quote: wizard

beautiful, not like a scalpel!)))

A very informative post ... Do not tell me who is handsome and what did not please our former BZHRK, or rather his rocket

[mvg]

I may not understand something at all .. The US is outraged by the RS-26 "Rubezh" that it falls under the INF Treaty (ie, from 100 to 500, and up to 5000 km, medium and short range). What the fuck is Fashington? And ours assure that less than 5500 km will not launch it .. that is the question ..

I wrote about Pershing and BGM above ..

Old'26, thank you for supporting me in my absence

PS: In general, DA. I agree. Life is, of course, all the people are scum, let's tear it all apart (of the Treaty) and commit suicide together ... You see, after a couple of million years, macaques from Africa will reach the level of a caveman.

[Old26]

Quote: mvg

I may not understand something at all .. The US is outraged by the RS-26 "Rubezh" that it falls under the INF Treaty (ie, from 100 to 500, and up to 5000 km, medium and short range).

Yes, they now do not even resent her. In principle, it was not the American military who were outraged, but politicians and newspaper writers. The military at first (as knowledgeable people say) accused us of violating the START-2 treaty, but ours proved very convincingly (don't ask how, to be honest I don't know for sure) that the complex was developed according to the agreement. Apparently ours found loopholes in the agreement, "holes" and took advantage of them.
Well, the screams that Russia is violating the INF Treaty (missiles with a range of 500-5500 km) are from politicians and zhurnalyug. However, when they were also "transparently" reminded that their Trident 2 flew 2200 km and that it was believed that the United States had also violated the treaty, they shut up.
Official Washington "suspects" that Russia violated this treaty by creating a WINGED ROCKET with a range that is prohibited by the treaty. Moreover, this rocket is a GROUND-BASED one. When asked to substantiate this, saying about the type, usually followed by "excuses" like: well, you know that we know what kind of missile we are talking about. And then the maxim that Russia violated the letter of the Treaty. In response, our "accusations" of the United States follow that they also violated, but already the "spirit" of the treaty. That is, in principle, neither side can provide undeniable facts of violation of the other.

Well, we have a huge mass of members of the forum, and quite famous, and sometimes high-ranking people who unanimously claim that, for example, the Iskander cruise missile flies 2000 km (that is, it is a direct violation), or that, that the declared range of the non-export "Iskander" is also by no means 500 km, that there is a "kind of toggle switch", when switched, the "Iskander" flies to the KhZ what range, almost 1500 km (people like this figure). And the people do not care that even the Americans, speaking about our, in their opinion, violations of the INF Treaty say that they (violations) do not concern either Rubezh or the R-500 missile. That is, the Americans know that it has a range of no more than 500, and forum connoisseurs-conspiracy theorists claim the exact opposite.

One more thing. Such, if I may say so, "conspiracy theorists," saying that the ranges of ballistic and cruise missiles of the Iskander complex exceed the declared ones, they themselves pour water on the mill of the Americans, helping them accuse us of violation. For all over the world, intelligence works exactly the same. She, among other things, monitors the media, looking for leads. In our country, similar nonsense about Iskander is wandering from resource to resource, from publication in mass media to publication. And what does it give? And the fact that when you hear something like that once - you can take it for delirium, the second time - too. But when they talk about it for the hundredth time and on several dozen resources, analysts on the other hand begin to think a little. And politicians will immediately seize (without even thinking) at such a trump card. And then our structures, incl. and the Foreign Ministry has to rake it all out, proving that we are not violators ...
I’m sure in advance, almost 100% sure that replicas will now pour in, that American intelligence is not capable of anything and draws its data from the Internet ... I am almost 100% sure of this. It’s true that people who don’t even remotely understand how the process of collecting, accumulating and processing information can and will go on talking about it. By the way, in Soviet times, it was considered a great success for the American intelligence when it managed to subscribe to the large-circulation publications of the corresponding plants, or to get real access to them

[Raven1972]

Quote: Old26

Yes, they now do not even resent her. In principle, it was not the American military who were outraged, but politicians and newspaper writers. The military at first (as knowledgeable people say) accused us of violating the START-2 treaty, but ours proved very convincingly (don't ask how, to be honest I don't know for sure) that the complex was developed according to the agreement. Apparently ours found loopholes in the agreement, "holes" and took advantage of them.

Vladimir As far as I remember, our Frontier was launched at 6500 km, so there weren’t even any loopholes, there was a howl, supposedly we overestimated the launch range, and ours simply poked their muzzle on the table and compared them with our satellite images (I can’t vouch for accuracy, but it was like that) Well, about the trident at 2200 reminded))))))

[Old26]

Quote: Raven1972

As far as I remember, our line was launched at 6500 km, so even loopholes were not required

About loopholes, Boris, I said in terms of creating such a rocket. After all, its development began during the START II period, according to which (judging by the official, open version of the treaty) it could not be developed. But somewhere the Americans screwed up, and we took advantage of the "hole"

[Zomanus]

Oh, the groundwork for Barguzin is being done. I would not be surprised if the corresponding launcher is already preparing for throw tests somewhere.
And what about the inspection, so let them look, let them measure.
The length of the rocket is 15 meters, the weight is 4 tons, for example.
And will it say a lot to experts?
Especially considering that they know more about Poplar.

[magadanets]

Quote: vovanpain

Quote: Baikonur

! Even like that. Magical

And if the course comes to visit.

It would be better like this

[Old26]

Quote: Zomanus

Oh, the groundwork for Barguzin is being done. I would not be surprised if the corresponding launcher is already preparing for throw tests somewhere.

Not getting ready. What the hell with throwing tests when the development of the design documentation for the product itself will be completed only next year. What it will be like as a result is unknown, and designing a launcher without knowing the parameters of the rocket is stupid.

Quote: Zomanus

As for inspection, let them look, let them measure. The length of the rocket is 15 meters, weight 4 tons, for example.
And how much will this tell specialists? Especially considering the fact that they definitely know more about Poplar.

Much. Moreover, the display is not limited to providing two parameters. There are dimensions - the diameter of the steps, their length, there are mass characteristics in a general form and in stages. The throwing weight is also known.
Well, they know much less about Topol than they would like. His shows were no different (if any) from shows of other equipment

[ochakow703]

“Also, the Russian side “will provide inspectors with photographs of the RS-26 if a corresponding request is received,” the source said, adding that the Americans will be able, in addition, “to inspect and measure the missile, while they will not be able to touch or remove it, and also not they will see the launcher."
Cool, like a shaggy joke about TV! "Make sure you don't turn on the current"

[Seneca]

It all smacks of Kaendeeria. They also like to intimidate. Until now, no one can understand... do the Chukhkon Papuans have an atomic bomb... or is it a fake they blew... And the topic is about the same... we will show everyone... and then let them they think...whether it flies or not.

[Zai pali]

Gorbachev, traitor. Cancel all treaties, and especially those on medium-range missiles. Iskanders will fly 5000 km.

[Old26]

Quote: Zai Pali

Gorbachev, traitor. Cancel all treaties, and especially those on medium-range missiles. Iskanders will fly 5000 km.

I agree that Gorby is a traitor too. At present, all agreements can be answered only by someone who wants, at a minimum, harm, and at a maximum, the destruction of Russia, that is, a traitor like Gorbi.
Why bother with 5000 km? Write 12 or 15 thousand. You will get more advantages for this