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In Russia, one of the developers of weapons for the newest armored vehicles was convicted of treason

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Defense scientist Maxim Ludomirsky was sentenced by a Moscow court to 9-years of imprisonment. He will spend the entire term in the strict regime colony, the channel said LifeNews.


In Russia, one of the developers of weapons for the newest armored vehicles was convicted of treason


The court sessions were held behind closed doors, as secret documents appeared in the case.

According to the investigators, “Ludomirsky handed over information about weapons developed under his leadership to another state.”

At the investigation stage, the accused pleaded guilty and concluded a deal with the investigation, which was taken into account by the court when sentencing.

According to the channel, “Lyudomirsky was the chief engineer of the Electro-Optics research and production complex, and took part in the development of weapons systems tank "Armata", BMP "Kurganets-25", BTR "Boomerang" and in the modernization of air defense systems "Tor" and "Buk" »
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  1. sever.56
    sever.56 18 November 2015 14: 37 New
    121
    Here is p. Adla ...
    Long live the Russian court - the most humane court in the world !!!
    Что еще за "сделка со следствием", в результате которой он получит смешной срок, а потом по УДО через пару лет выйдет, или обменяют на нашего разведчика, сидящего где-нибудь в штатах???
    За такое преступление, нанесшее непоправимый ущерб национальной безопасности, сидеть бы ему в "демократичных" штатах лет 250, без права на помилование...
    They enacted laws at the suggestion of Medvedev, and on the initiative of thieves sitting in the State Duma and the Federation Council, so that they, beloved ones, would never be waited by a prison bucket. In which case, do with CONDITIONAL periods of 10-15 years ... It's fantastic ... !!! In no country in the world there is such a farce in the judicial system, only here !!!
    1. Baikonur
      Baikonur 18 November 2015 14: 38 New
      68
      Here is a snake warmed on his chest! NIT.!
      Oh, in the old days - chik, and no! And it is right! only blood for treason!
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 18 November 2015 15: 17 New
        24
        Criminal Code of the RSFSR from 1960. Article 65. Espionage. It is punishable by imprisonment for a term of 7 to 15 years with confiscation of property or the death penalty confiscation of property. SEVER.56 Do not drive the snowstorm.
        Quote: juborg
        Boris Alkashevich Yeltsin, in a conversation directly recommended directors of defense enterprises to sell technology to the Americans, and to collaborate with mini. This is not fake, but reality. Today we fully slurp what the country and the people turned into an alcoholic. Concepts of the Motherland, more than half of the population does not have such a concept, the concept of a patriot is turned by the liberals into a curse, and the sale of the Motherland and its secret is turned into a sport (who will sell faster and how much). For such a 100 years, in the mines, for stew, they should work.
        And these are modern realities. They gave a good 9 more years.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 18 November 2015 16: 56 New
          18
          Quote: Amurets
          And these are modern realities. They gave a good 9 more years.

          Treason against the Motherland is a betrayal of one’s own people. This is not a matter of numbers, but of conscience and morality. And therefore, I am convinced that such acts must be given a life sentence (I won’t talk about the death penalty, since we don’t have it).
          The works of many bright minds and the efforts of the whole country to sell for 30 pieces of silver ... death for Judah is too easy an outcome.
          1. Alexkorzun
            Alexkorzun 18 November 2015 17: 35 New
            +9
            Is the surname of this stuffed animal Ludomirsky? Jew? If so, then this is not treason, but stupid espionage. Zhudy, sorry, the Jews do consider Russia homeland? They would have to tear off more of it and teach us life.

            But there are exceptions.
            1. Mahmut
              Mahmut 18 November 2015 18: 16 New
              +4
              Why do all traitors in the photo have their eyes wide. I have long noticed. This is their hallmark, or the photo was taken during the arrest and in the eyes is simply fright.
              1. crazyrom
                crazyrom 18 November 2015 20: 30 New
                0
                Long live the Russian court - the most humane court in the world !!!

                I think 9 for years is only formal, most likely the prisoners themselves will sort it out in 3-4 years (and during these 3-4 years they will be dealt with every day, too).
                1. Eugene-Eugene
                  Eugene-Eugene 18 November 2015 21: 07 New
                  +6
                  Why blame him? How did he understand the development. Create a special sharashka as in certain times, let it work there. And the main looking person to appoint Serdyukov in it, Vasilyev’s secretary, she has the necessary qualities for this: she sings, dances, generally entertains people. And if the whole team does not fulfill the planned targets, then it will be both the taiga and the brown bears.
              2. Styx
                Styx 18 November 2015 22: 29 New
                +2
                Хммм. Хорошо подмечено: проблемы со щитовидной=>проблемы психологического характера.... Дальше по списку и логике... Напомню о ещё одном таком же лупатом дурканутом американском журналюге, Том Бом какой-то, ну или как-то так, не помню:))))) Похоже, один психотип
            2. Karlovar
              Karlovar 18 November 2015 22: 18 New
              0
              The original name was, presumably, years ago, Yudomir ....
          2. Amurets
            Amurets 18 November 2015 23: 42 New
            +1
            Quote: NEXUS
            Quote: Amurets
            And these are modern realities. They gave a good 9 more years.

            Treason against the Motherland is a betrayal of one’s own people. This is not a matter of numbers, but of conscience and morality. And therefore, I am convinced that such acts must be given a life sentence (I won’t talk about the death penalty, since we don’t have it).
            The works of many bright minds and the efforts of the whole country to sell for 30 pieces of silver ... death for Judah is too easy an outcome.

            I completely agree with you and support what you expressed in your opinion. I just answered the questions of some members of the forum: what happened before and who is to blame now. You could forgive. Our rulers only talk about leniency. I’m just surprised that he was punished. You look how many forgiven. Do not hunt this scum to list.
      2. Genur
        Genur 18 November 2015 15: 24 New
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        I am for lifting the moratorium on the death penalty.
        1. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 18 November 2015 18: 27 New
          +7
          Quote: Genur
          moratorium with DEATH PENALTY.

          It is high time! With what kind of joy should I support at my own expense (180-200 thousand rubles a year) a traitor to the Motherland?
          А мораторий этот принят по указке Запада, который нам вообще не указ. Китайцы, вон, не стесняются своим паразитам головы откручивать - и ничего,хуже им от этого не стало. В США многие штаты тоже не собираются с негодяями миндальничать - и тоже ничего. А мы, видите ли, "демократы"!
          1. ANTI.KORR.
            ANTI.KORR. 19 November 2015 02: 14 New
            +4
            We must again introduce the death penalty for treason.
            And embezzlement of embezzlement to treason!
        2. Dry_T-50
          Dry_T-50 18 November 2015 19: 09 New
          +1
          Quote: Genur
          I am for lifting the moratorium on the death penalty.

          and I, too. First of all, for participating in mass actions aimed at changing the state system, order, power change of power
      3. Maxom75
        Maxom75 18 November 2015 15: 51 New
        +7
        Taki for nine years? In my opinion, he should somehow not be released, maybe he accidentally chokes on a large piece of meat from happiness?)))
        1. Temples
          Temples 18 November 2015 16: 20 New
          +4
          Such courts should, on the contrary, be as open as possible.
          And the sentence must be harsh.
          Предателя уже не перевоспитать, а вот остальным "сомневающимся" это урок!!!
          Decided to betray us - know that the punishment will be inevitable and as cruel as possible !!!
          1. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 18 November 2015 18: 43 New
            +2
            Do you want to attend a court hearing on such a case and become a banned person for 15-25 years? smile
        2. perm23
          perm23 18 November 2015 16: 24 New
          +1
          or another network 4 times for 9 years. although it may hang itself from shame in the toilet.
          1. sgazeev
            sgazeev 18 November 2015 18: 39 New
            0
            Quote: perm23
            or another network 4 times for 9 years. although it may hang itself from shame in the toilet.

            Needle under the nail when sewing mittens. wassat
          2. olegkrava
            olegkrava 18 November 2015 20: 54 New
            0
            Nits in toilets are not hung, they had no shame and no. You need to hang them.
      4. Asadali
        Asadali 18 November 2015 16: 27 New
        +5
        Quote: Baikonur
        Here is a snake warmed on his chest! NIT.!
        Oh, in the old days - chik, and no! And it is right! only blood for treason!

        Apparently a big-headed guy. We always have time to check out. Now we need to make sure that he plowed on us like cancer in the galleys. Pendos would not miss such an opportunity with such.

        PS Do not judge strictly for opinion repeat
      5. sgazeev
        sgazeev 18 November 2015 18: 32 New
        +1
        Quote: Baikonur
        Here is a snake warmed on his chest! NIT.!
        Oh, in the old days - chik, and no! And it is right! only blood for treason!
    2. 79807420129
      79807420129 18 November 2015 14: 40 New
      21
      Here is the gnidson. They would have arranged for him to drop from the shaft ten times in the area, you should immediately push such a pah pah, but there will still be some kind of UDO.
      1. 79807420129
        79807420129 18 November 2015 14: 45 New
        28
        Liberation can now again howl will raise about the bloody Putin regime.
        1. sever.56
          sever.56 18 November 2015 15: 08 New
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          http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/662/izcw550.png

          Vlad hi You're right!
          Вот уже и немедленная реакция "неполживого" Гудкова-младшего...
          Well, what to do with such creatures? How much can you endure them
          heinous bullying of everything that is good in Russia?
          It is necessary to do something with these creatures so far within the framework of the law.
          And then after all, someone can end the patient !!!
          1. DenZ
            DenZ 18 November 2015 15: 30 New
            +5
            And who takes these beeps seriously. These are just clowns and no more. In the homeland of modern democracy such as our physicist, too, mother would not solder.
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        2. mirag2
          mirag2 18 November 2015 15: 52 New
          +3
          Liberation can now again howl will raise about the bloody Putin regime.
          -Read article 61 of the old Criminal Code! -Not a joke! Wartime!
          1. Ezhaak
            Ezhaak 18 November 2015 16: 59 New
            +1
            Quote: mirag2
            return article 61 from the old CC

            Quote: Vika talks
            According to the criminal legislation of Russia, two types of espionage are distinguished:
            as an independent crime (Article 276 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation); and
            as one of the forms of high treason (Article 275 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation).
            The subjects of espionage as an independent crime can only be foreign citizens and stateless persons. Accordingly, citizens of the Russian Federation are responsible for espionage under Art. 275 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation “High Treason”.
            The definition of espionage is contained in Art. 276 of the Criminal Code:
            Transfer, collection, abduction or storage for the purpose of transferring information constituting a state secret to a foreign state, international or foreign organization or their representatives, as well as transferring or collecting, on the instructions of foreign intelligence or a person acting in its interests, other information for use against security Of the Russian Federation, if these acts were committed by a foreign citizen or stateless person ...
            ... Espionage, committed by a citizen of the Russian Federation, shall be punishable by deprivation of liberty for a term of from twelve to twenty years with a fine of up to five hundred thousand rubles or in the amount of the wage or other income of the convicted person for a period of up to three years or without it.
    3. diver1977
      diver1977 18 November 2015 14: 53 New
      23
      For treason, only 9 years of strict labor ?! It was necessary to put on the stake - then the lesson will be different.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 18 November 2015 15: 07 New
        17
        Judah got his 30 pieces of silver and 9 years old ...
        Dear colleagues, what do we need to do with those who, at the state level in 90, sold not only the secrets of the Motherland, wholesale and retail?
        And what should we do with officials with real estate, accounts and children abroad? After all, these are potential agents, and after all, the higher the lump, the greater state secrets he owns.
        And how many years in prison can you evaluate the activity of Chubais or Serdyukovism?
        But see whether these gentlemen are not under jurisdiction, it turns out to Caesar Caesarean ...?
        1. Dry_T-50
          Dry_T-50 18 November 2015 19: 11 New
          -1
          Quote: Stroporez
          Dear colleagues, what do we need to do with those who, at the state level in 90, sold not only the secrets of the Motherland, wholesale and retail?

          give a billion and exhaust abroad without the right to return
    4. Juborg
      Juborg 18 November 2015 14: 56 New
      23
      Boris Alkashevich Yeltsin, in a conversation directly recommended directors of defense enterprises to sell technology to the Americans, and to collaborate with mini. This is not fake, but reality. Today we fully slurp what the country and the people turned into an alcoholic. Concepts of the Motherland, more than half of the population does not have such a concept, the concept of a patriot is turned by the liberals into a curse, and the sale of the Motherland and its secret is turned into a sport (who will sell faster and how much). For such a 100 years, in the mines, for stew, they should work.
      1. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 18 November 2015 18: 31 New
        +1
        Quote: juborg
        For such a 100 years, in the mines, for stew, they should work.

        For this you need to tear your head without options!
      2. Karlovar
        Karlovar 18 November 2015 22: 36 New
        +1
        Коррупционную модель государственного устройства РФ внедрил алкаш по настоятельным "рекомендациям" "советничков" от запада,чтобы госдепу было сподручно влиять на политику РФ через подкуп чиновников(денег у США-как пыли,станок работает круглосуточно,главное предназначение станка-печатать макулатуру на подкуп чиновников всех государств мира,где подкуп не канает,там вступают в игру ЦРУ,армия и флот))...Уверен,и в ЕС госдеп сформировал брюссельскую власть по такой же(коррупционной)модели....
    5. PAM
      PAM 18 November 2015 15: 02 New
      +5
      states years 250
      а в Китае - растрел. Через пару лет то он точно не выйдет, а кричать не стоит (мало много) ты же не знаешь деталей и как никак не судья. Но в целом судебная система унас "кривая" (несправедливая) можно получить один и тот же срок своровав или нанести ущерб действием (находясь на высоком посту) или бездействием на миллиарды (причем срок получают единицы) и от безысходности грубо выражаясь "на еду".
    6. Homo
      Homo 18 November 2015 15: 05 New
      +2
      Quote: sever.56
      Что еще за "сделка со следствием", в результате которой он получит смешной срок, а потом по УДО через пару лет выйдет, или обменяют на нашего разведчика, сидящего где-нибудь в штатах???

      You do not consider everyone (especially the FSB) more stupid than yourself.
    7. aleksfill
      aleksfill 18 November 2015 15: 07 New
      +2
      By the verdict of the Soviet court, his forehead would be anointed with greenback for what he had done.
    8. Foxmara
      Foxmara 18 November 2015 15: 15 New
      +2
      Quote: sever.56
      Что еще за "сделка со следствием"

      it means that he leaked from the contacts of agents .. you never know what is interesting. Or maybe just clicked. a deal with the investigation - immediately a special procedure for consideration, beneficial to the investigation too.
    9. Fonmeg
      Fonmeg 18 November 2015 15: 20 New
      +5
      To sit for life for murders with dismemberment, to obtain amnesty through the European Court of Human Rights, to cut off a term of up to eighteen years, and after three years to go to parole and engage in raider seizures - 38-year-old Nikita Moskovets has a rich biography. One of the active participants in the “gang of orderlies” who operated in St. Petersburg in the late 90s, it seems, did not take the path of correction.


      Это по поводу "гуманности" нашего "правосудия".
    10. bubla5
      bubla5 18 November 2015 15: 22 New
      +5
      If there was a good government, a moratorium on the death penalty would have been abolished long ago, and large bribes of officials and election rigging would be equated to treason, even if the society had been cleansed of Serdyukov’s and his blasphemy and corrupt bureaucrats
    11. nizrum
      nizrum 18 November 2015 15: 43 New
      0
      And I'm not surprised.
      What do you say he had s / n?
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    13. lotar
      lotar 18 November 2015 15: 58 New
      +2
      I can recall other examples, no less exciting: Vasilyeva, Serdyukov, Chubais and other gentlemen and ladies who deserve a bail and a link to Kolyma.
    14. guzik007
      guzik007 18 November 2015 16: 24 New
      +3
      Что еще за "сделка со следствием",
      ----------------------------------------

      I, the north, so I think, in a sharashka, a comrade will work for soldering; I have caused damage to the state, return the proportion in new developments. But, for soldering bl, for soldering. Forget about dollyar-cars-girls-malibu-goa-bali.
    15. under-cut
      under-cut 18 November 2015 17: 50 New
      +1
      UDM is not released for treason, as well as for a number of grave articles
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    17. avdkrd
      avdkrd 18 November 2015 18: 37 New
      0
      Quote: sever.56
      Long live the Russian court - the most humane court in the world !!!

      Too humane, you need it for life etsih with nails ....
    18. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 18 November 2015 18: 38 New
      0
      They will not exchange, too much knowledge in the head, without a shot in the head you will not erase!
    19. Archon
      Archon 19 November 2015 04: 48 New
      0
      I consider this a mistake by the security service. She was supposed to completely prevent the possibility of such an event.
      very strongly and bloodthirsty our readers scold this scientist. but I believe that this should not have happened at all - they were under-examined, under-informed, overlooked and so on. It’s like in medicine - it’s better to maintain immunity than to deal with the consequences.
    20. Ze Kot
      Ze Kot 20 November 2015 11: 23 New
      0
      Quote: sever.56
      Here is p. Adla ...



      My words were repeated ...

      Интересно, что он "передать" успел ?
  2. Severodvinsk
    Severodvinsk 18 November 2015 14: 37 New
    19
    I would have shot for such a thing, with the complete confiscation of property
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 18 November 2015 18: 38 New
      +2
      Quote: Severodvinsk
      with full confiscation of property

      ALL our ruling elite categorically opposes the confiscation of property! And this means only one thing - they all (almost) had a snout in the cannon. They can’t, like Madame Gritsatsuev, flog themselves!
  3. Motherland Russia
    Motherland Russia 18 November 2015 14: 37 New
    16
    Mala Dali. This term may not frighten others ...
    There are crimes for which it is necessary in full, to life.
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  5. Denis 60 rus
    Denis 60 rus 18 November 2015 14: 37 New
    32
    ещё бы "распильщиков" так привлекали.... по той же статье.
  6. meriem1
    meriem1 18 November 2015 14: 38 New
    +4
    I hope contacts are revealed?
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 18 November 2015 14: 46 New
      +3
      Frankly admitted and cooperates with the investigation.
      According to the IC of the Russian Federation, the accused transferred information on weapons development to another state. The defendant made a deal with the investigation and fully admitted his guilt.
      And how many more are there in different research institutes?
  7. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 November 2015 14: 38 New
    20
    For treason it is necessary to give life. Once the execution was canceled.
  8. roskot
    roskot 18 November 2015 14: 39 New
    +5
    Bitch. Nothing more to say. Money fraer destroyed.
  9. A-Sim
    A-Sim 18 November 2015 14: 40 New
    +6
    This is probably not an isolated case. Maybe you need to motivate correctly alongside competent comrades? So that the scientist is engaged in science, and not looking for adventure or profit.
    1. Rader
      Rader 18 November 2015 14: 46 New
      +9
      Hmm ... It is not clear what he was missing? His salary should be decent, and his career was not developing badly ... It is clear that the details of the case will be kept secret, but I would like to know more about the motives.
      1. adept666
        adept666 18 November 2015 14: 53 New
        +1
        His salary should be decent, and his career has not developed badly ...
        well, money is not always decisive, there are other motives.
        1. kotvov
          kotvov 18 November 2015 17: 51 New
          0
          well, money is not always decisive, there are other motives. ,, is that a lot of money? or libcenosti?
          1. adept666
            adept666 18 November 2015 21: 42 New
            0
            Is that a lot of money? or libcenosti?


            Maybe he is one of these or sympathizing with them (you can’t immediately distinguish them from us ... apparently one people seems to be):

      2. Benya krik
        Benya krik 18 November 2015 16: 05 New
        +2
        This is not the right place to pose the question ... We all need something in this life, only units become traitors, this is a kind of personality degradation, this is the baseboard below which there is nowhere to fall, it is an infected organ that cannot be cured, which only needs to be cured delete.
    2. Foxmara
      Foxmara 18 November 2015 15: 19 New
      +8
      salaries should be paid to scientists normal. and keep a secret.
      1. Rader
        Rader 18 November 2015 18: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Foxmara
        salaries should be paid to scientists normal. and keep a secret.

        Wages worthy and competent authorities to watch out for granted. I just wanted to know more about this business, otherwise the motives are not entirely clear. Once again, I don’t believe that his salary was 20 thousand, and 5 hungry mouths were waiting for him at home.
        P.S.
        Quote: adept666
        His salary should be decent, and his career has not developed badly ...
        well, money is not always decisive, there are other motives.

        Previously, during the USSR - yes, there was also an ideological component. But now...
  10. Air Force captain
    Air Force captain 18 November 2015 14: 40 New
    +3
    Belenko 2.0
  11. Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 November 2015 14: 42 New
    +6
    I won’t be surprised if the dude once went abroad,
    Well, studying there or at work.
    Now the whole plant will shake up ...
  12. 1304
    1304 18 November 2015 14: 42 New
    +4
    Ну вот "репрессии" начались. bully
  13. V.ic
    V.ic 18 November 2015 14: 43 New
    17
    Вот и начинаешь жалеть о моратории на смертную казнь. В РФ данный утырок по специальности работать не сможет, т.к. допуск ГТ ему не дадут. После отсидки тихо слиняет на Запад и, как "невинно пострадавший в борьбе с тоталитаризмом", будет получать пенсию от своих кураторов. Так,что я желаю от всей души, не попасть ему под какую-нибудь амнистию, а желательно ему попасть под упавший на голову кирпич.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 18 November 2015 14: 47 New
      +4
      Quote: V.ic
      После отсидки тихо слиняет на Запад и, как "невинно пострадавший в борьбе с тоталитаризмом", будет получать пенсию от своих кураторов.


      This is unlikely, his curators do not need waste material for nothing, and even more so for money they are not needed.
      1. Lt. Air Force stock
        Lt. Air Force stock 18 November 2015 15: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        This is unlikely, his curators do not need waste material for nothing, and even more so for money they are not needed.

        Anna Chapman and several of our illegal intelligence agents were exchanged for several traitors.
        1. quote
          quote 18 November 2015 15: 37 New
          +3
          Вроде все про "демократический запад" известно и его суть понятна,но нашелся же "тупоголовый".
          "Яйка" в тиски,"больную" голову, отсечь!!Вот и вся речь.
          А Гудкова "звиздить" на каждом шагу!Пошел за хлебушком,в дыню!И так пожизненно!
  14. inferno_nv
    inferno_nv 18 November 2015 14: 44 New
    +8
    The shooting, confiscation of all the property of his family and relatives, relatives for mining in the taiga, and now the next traitor is already beginning to think what will happen to him and his relatives! Something like this! hi
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 18 November 2015 17: 15 New
      +1
      Quote: inferno_nv
      confiscation of all the property of his family and relatives, relatives for mining in the taiga

      And what about relatives? Yes, you are just a villain! request
  15. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 18 November 2015 14: 45 New
    +3
    They will tear you up, but you are not a thief .. Don’t sell your motherland!
  16. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 18 November 2015 14: 45 New
    +2
    And how many such, but not yet opened moles are in high banking, and not only, offices!
    Как говаривал ЕБН(перефразируя): "Не таМ сидим!"
    SHOOT SUCH NECESSARY !!!
    1. edmed
      edmed 18 November 2015 15: 32 New
      0
      Как говаривал ЕБН(перефразируя): "Не таМ сидим!"
      "Не так сели",уж извините за поправочку,вот чего не понимаю в действиях таких персонажей,что ими двигает,нагадить начальству,Кремлю,всей стране,жадность,"хоть копейку но срублю" ведь не дураки осознают то что они продаю стоит миллионы а может сотни миллионов,продаются за пару-тройку тысяч баксов, уж если начал Родину продавать так продай подороже wink Вообщем- как там в известном фильме-"А не кажется,деточка ,что твое место у параши?"Пусть посидит.
    2. ARS56
      ARS56 18 November 2015 15: 55 New
      0
      Recently, the Duma, represented by EP, drafted a bill prohibiting the audit of defense industry enterprises by foreign (American) audit companies.
      What is this if not a betrayal of Russia?
      At present, such an audit is OBLIGATORY for large military-industrial enterprises ...
      1. edmed
        edmed 18 November 2015 17: 55 New
        0
        "Вот оно чо Михалыч !" Несколько лет назад ,на территории УВЗ был пойман полковник НОАК,наверно форму не снял,а тут раздолье,ЦРУ,АНБ,РУМО,и прочие,костюмчик одел,галстук поправил,и давай наводить аудит,в спальне российского ВПК.
      2. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 18 November 2015 19: 13 New
        0
        Quote: ARS56
        At present, such an audit is OBLIGATORY for large military-industrial enterprises ...

        Only Russian companies
  17. AlexTires
    AlexTires 18 November 2015 14: 45 New
    +3
    Does it make sense to invent something, if there have always been, are and will be traitors among researchers, developers, engineers, professors, etc.? Anyway, they will surrender everything that they invented ...
    In general, they didn’t give enough, for the betrayal the execution should be, unconditionally ....
  18. wk
    wk 18 November 2015 14: 46 New
    +2
    «Людомирский был главным инженером научно-производственного комплекса "Электрооптика", и принимал участие в разработке систем вооружения танка "Армата", БМП "Курганец-25", БТР "Бумеранг" и в модернизации систем ПВО "Тор" и "Бук"»


    forgot about Yars, Mace, Iskander, Sarmat .... and AK - 47 .....

    желтуха чистой воды.... ну журналюги... если причёсываете для раздувания сенсации... знайте меру.... современные инженеры работают по очень узким направлениям... времена Леонардо и "эдисонов" давно позади!
  19. Don karleone
    Don karleone 18 November 2015 14: 46 New
    +1
    что "людям" не хватает ?
    1. Urals
      Urals 18 November 2015 14: 52 New
      +3
      Personally, this comrade MOZGOV.Well, and a firing squad.
    2. FIREMAN
      FIREMAN 18 November 2015 14: 52 New
      +2
      Grandmother, sex and recognition + creation of the necessary conditions, and even better when all of this is taken together - the principles of recruitment do not change.
    3. Shuttle
      Shuttle 18 November 2015 15: 13 New
      +1
      Quote: Don Karleone
      что "людям" не хватает ?

      Everyone lacks only one thing - love.
      But everyone is mistaken and believes that they lack something else.
      Someone thinks that he does not have enough money, someone believes that he lacks strength and power, someone needs fame and respect, someone needs care and attention. This is all bullshit. People lack love.
      It is worth noting that many confuse love with sex. Oh, how many of ours on this burned ...

      Meanwhile, John Lenon was absolutely right - ol un nid from lava! (All you need is love!). All you need is Love!
  20. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 18 November 2015 14: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: 1304
    Ну вот "репрессии" начались. bully


    А как верещать-то начнут : узник совести , борец за свободу и прочая хренотень . И таких вшей полно ещё . История с "Протонами" не впрок пошла , мало видать вздрючили иуд .
  21. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 18 November 2015 14: 50 New
    +5
    For the seller of the Motherland, 9 years will not be enough!
  22. Baloo
    Baloo 18 November 2015 14: 51 New
    +6
    They stopped in time. I’m not bloodthirsty, but for the disclosure of medical confidentiality (for example, the message of the address of the victim of an accident in the accident to the culprit of the accident) the health worker faces a real term. And then a traitor and only 9 years old! Pinocchio with a platoon malvinin destroyed the defense research institutes and much more we do not know, now in Rostec. I do not understand the justice of our laws.
  23. El_nagual
    El_nagual 18 November 2015 14: 51 New
    0
    Ну надо же какие тут все кровожадные ... "...Я бы расстрелял..." ля ля ля...бла бла бла... А дай любому из вас пистолет и скажи стреляй в голову ближнему.. даже изменнику, да у вас между ног потечет.. ссыкуны малолетние и великовозрастные.. Клавиатурные герои и воины.. Платить надо ученым как следует, а сажать и упрекать легче легкого.. Понятно что Гос. Измена это архи плохо.. и понятно что сажать надо за такие дела... и на долго.. но... НАДО ПЛАТИТЬ ЛЮДЯМ КАК СЛЕДУЕТ ЧТО БЫ СОБЛАЗНА АПРИОРИ НЕ ВОЗНИКАЛО... А то получается так что человек ради страны ночами не спит годами... пашет, вкладывает свои мозги и нервы а ему 20-30 тысяч в зубы и выживай как можешь.. я не шучу про 20-30 тысяч.. я живу в Новосибирске и у нас есть завод который самолеты производит... зарплаты там прямо таки ниже нижнего... Ни кто по 100 тысяч и отдаленно не получает... а по хорошему таким то людям надо бы по 200-300 штук платить а то получается что депутаты 450 штук в месяц а ученый на благо Родины трудящийся с гулькин нос...
    1. Gur
      Gur 18 November 2015 14: 59 New
      0
      NOT the fact that the motive is money
    2. svu93
      svu93 18 November 2015 15: 05 New
      +1
      do not write nonsense! 20-30 thousand at the factory, about which you speak, workers receive! the rest is from office and merit!
      ну, и если следовать Вашей логике, то все, кто считает, что ему мало платят, должны выстроится около нужного посольства с плакатом "Продам Родину! Недорого!"
      Did I understand you correctly???
      1. svu93
        svu93 19 November 2015 11: 55 New
        0
        I want to clarify - and minus my comment is those who did not have enough place in the queue ???)))))
      2. svu93
        svu93 19 November 2015 11: 55 New
        0
        I want to clarify - and minus my comment is those who did not have enough place in the queue ???)))))
    3. svu93
      svu93 18 November 2015 15: 05 New
      0
      do not write nonsense! 20-30 thousand at the factory, about which you speak, workers receive! the rest is from office and merit!
      ну, и если следовать Вашей логике, то все, кто считает, что ему мало платят, должны выстроится около нужного посольства с плакатом "Продам Родину! Недорого!"
      Did I understand you correctly???
    4. Bayonet
      Bayonet 18 November 2015 15: 06 New
      +1
      Quote: El_Nagual
      . IT IS NECESSARY TO PAY TO PEOPLE HOW IT SHOULD NOT BE APPLIED PRIORITY ...

      As long as they don’t understand it (or maybe they don’t want to understand), the brain drain will continue, there will be new Ludomir ones.
      1. ANTI.KORR.
        ANTI.KORR. 19 November 2015 01: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: Bayonet
        As long as they don’t understand it (or maybe they don’t want to understand), the brain drain will continue, there will be new Ludomir ones.

        And who will understand? Really DAM?
    5. gudgeon
      gudgeon 18 November 2015 15: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: El_Nagual
      IT IS NECESSARY TO PAY TO PEOPLE AS IT SHOULD APRIORIES NOT BE COMPETENT ... But it turns out that a person doesn’t sleep at night for the sake of the country ... plows, puts his brains and nerves into him and survive in his teeth 20-30 thousand as you can ..

      In short - give me money, then I will love my homeland ... Did I understand you correctly?
      1. Greenwood
        Greenwood 18 November 2015 16: 00 New
        -3
        Nobody has been working for an idea for a long time. People need money. Tea, we live in capitalism.
      2. Bayonet
        Bayonet 18 November 2015 17: 18 New
        0
        Quote: gudgeon
        In short - give me money, then I will love my homeland ...

        Love must be mutual!
    6. Turkir
      Turkir 18 November 2015 15: 17 New
      +6
      Greed has no limits. So how many do not add all is not enough.
      --------
      A small salary always causes sympathy, but does not justify for the crimes committed, and even of such a level.
      Stealing a loaf of bread from starvation and betraying the homeland are not crimes of the same category.
      For a loaf of bread you can not punish.
    7. cormorant
      cormorant 18 November 2015 16: 36 New
      +2
      Although you didn’t set a minus, you are wrong. Russia is a free country with a market economy. Choose any region to stay, get a job according to your ability. Pay little - look better. And in the defense industry now you can earn. Want to become a deputy, what problems? Engage in politics, and you will receive "450 pieces per month." But the State Treason, I believe, is one of the most serious crimes. The punishment for it is only death. The kid got off very easily.
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 18 November 2015 17: 19 New
        +2
        Quote: cormorant
        Want to become a deputy, what problems?

        I want it! No problem? laughing
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 18 November 2015 17: 25 New
          +2
          Quote: Bayonet
          I want it! No problem?

          Alexander, do you need it? laughing
    8. APASUS
      APASUS 18 November 2015 20: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: El_Nagual
      ... IT IS NECESSARY TO PAY TO PEOPLE HOW IT SHOULD APRIORI BE PLEASANT TO NOT APPEAR ... But it turns out that a person doesn’t sleep at night for the sake of the country ... plows, puts his brains and nerves into his teeth and survive like 20-30 thousand you can .. I'm not joking about 20-30 thousand .. I live in Novosibirsk and we have a factory that produces planes ... salaries there are right below the lower ... No one gets 100 thousand remotely and ... for good people like that, you would have to pay 200-300 pieces, but it turns out that the deputies are 450 pieces a month and a scientist working for the good of the Motherland with a gulkin nose ...

      A tribute to modern society with its rotten morality - become rich at all costs, a person simply does not see other arguments!
  24. Engineer
    Engineer 18 November 2015 14: 53 New
    +3
    In the zone he will be taught to love his homeland.
  25. Manager
    Manager 18 November 2015 14: 53 New
    +6
    . Если знаешь что слаб "на руку" и деньги нужны, иди занимайся коммерцией.
  26. Fantazer911
    Fantazer911 18 November 2015 14: 54 New
    +2
    It is necessary to do all the development for their preservation not only by one person but in parts so that they would not know the final result, but on the contrary, one person leads the project from the very beginning to its completion, and here the temptation to improve his financial situation arises, and now let him work for the good of the Motherland in the zone and learn about Zekov’s bread, I don’t think it’s worth it to beat and lower it, but it’s worth it to get to work and worked out a new one, although now he knows what a pound is worth, it’s a pity that such minds sell not only their Homeland but honor and name and dignity.
    1. Altona
      Altona 18 November 2015 15: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Fantazer911
      and now let him work for the good of the Motherland in the zone and learn about Zekov’s bread, I don’t think it’s worth it to beat and lower it, but it’s worth it to get to work and worked out a new one, although now he knows what a pound is worth, it’s a pity that such minds sell not only their Homeland but honor and name and dignity.

      -----------------------
      Will work on the zone. Sewing machines, sawmills, welding machines, metalworking machines are available there. In the zone, people with a head and hands are always needed. It's hard to say about treason. He is a scientist, a scientist needs to write and publish articles, but vanity has not been canceled yet. And here there are no publications, no decent salaries, no orders. The social elevator is locked apparently. On which thread of the exhibition or conference I met the mishandled Cossack from the CIA, leading technical espionage and having quite a civilian roof in the form of an assistant professor of which thread of the Mickey Mouse Astrolabe University (Institute) ... Next, the matter of technology - fame, money, women - three main hook ... That's all, and then our competent comrades, a matter of technology. An unexpected improvement in financial situation or the publication of an article in a foreign magazine, delays at work for some reason ... Well, they know better there ... That's all ...
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 18 November 2015 15: 12 New
      0
      Quote: Fantazer911
      It is necessary to do all the development for their preservation to be done not by one person but in parts so that they would not know the final result

      "Пойди туда - не знаю куда, принести то - не знаю что"
      How can one develop something new if one does not know what and why? laughing
    3. glasha3032
      glasha3032 19 November 2015 01: 47 New
      0
      Did you understand what you wrote?
  27. cap
    cap 18 November 2015 14: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: sever.56
    sever.56 (1) SU Today, 14:37 PM New

    Here is p. Adla ...
    Long live the Russian court - the most humane court in the world !!!

    Quote: sever.56

    For such a crime, which caused irreparable damage to national security, he would sit in the states of 250 years, without the right to pardon ...
    They enacted laws at the suggestion of Medvedev, and on the initiative of thieves sitting in the State Duma and the Federation Council, so that they, beloved ones, would never be waited by a prison bucket. In which case, do with CONDITIONAL periods of 10-15 years ... It's fantastic, in no country in the world there is one, only here !! 1

    Question: Who needs it. You cannot replace such gobies. And you raised the bar to the scout.
    It’s even more humane to shoot. In the zone the same traitor .... (after all, they’ll be deleted).
  28. Digtoyou
    Digtoyou 18 November 2015 14: 58 New
    +3
    Everyone does their job, someone works, someone controls. Someone executes a sentence.
    But betrayal can not be justified.
  29. kvnvolga2008
    kvnvolga2008 18 November 2015 15: 01 New
    +2
    Was a goat, will become a cockerel! !
  30. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 18 November 2015 15: 03 New
    +7
    I propose to behead

    am
  31. KVS
    KVS 18 November 2015 15: 04 New
    +8
    Yes, in our country, most of the government, and civil servants, including judges, can and should be put on trial for treason and undermining the authority of state power (sorry this article is not in the Criminal Code) !!!
  32. Appraiser
    Appraiser 18 November 2015 15: 05 New
    +2
    Somehow it’s even not good that the term was short, but it would have been necessary from 25 years to life ....
    Humanism damn it ... bully
  33. renics
    renics 18 November 2015 15: 06 New
    +4
    For some traitors, for some reason, the ending is the same, apparently here, this is not their homeland, so you can betray.
  34. kizhe
    kizhe 18 November 2015 15: 07 New
    0
    Быть ему на зоне "машкой." И поделом.
  35. Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 18 November 2015 15: 07 New
    0
    For Wk. The chief engineer has other options than a simple employee. Another level of dating, relationships.

    About money.
    Quote: Rader
    Hmm ... It is not clear what he was missing? His salary should be decent, and his career was not developing badly ... It is clear that the details of the case will be kept secret, but I would like to know more about the motives.

    I join. Some kind of gentle punishment.
  36. drop
    drop 18 November 2015 15: 08 New
    +6
    Уважаемые читатели "ВО", вы вдумайтесь в ту ситуацию, которая твориться в стране. Этот специалист возглавлял ООО, владел акциями предприятия, его предприятие выигрывало конкурсы и он по секретным ТТЗ вел разработки в области, как я думаю боевых лазеров. Как можно частным фирмам давать такие темы. На этой фирме был и первый отдел, военная приемка и т.д.
    The lead developer of military hardware should be a joint-stock company with a state block of shares. Co-executors may be LLCs, universities. Now heads will fly off at related companies. We did not allow such disgrace. I have the honor.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 18 November 2015 15: 11 New
      +4
      Quote: Drop
      you think about the situation that is happening in the country. This specialist headed the LLC, owned the shares of the enterprise, his company won tenders, and he conducted secret developments in the field of, as I think, combat lasers.

      This is called privatization!
    2. The comment was deleted.
    3. Turkir
      Turkir 18 November 2015 15: 25 New
      +2
      This specialist headed the LLC, owned shares of the enterprise,

      And here, some commentators explain to us that he had such a small salary. Shadow on the wattle fence only suggest.
      Thank you.
    4. Turkir
      Turkir 18 November 2015 15: 25 New
      0
      This specialist headed the LLC, owned shares of the enterprise,

      And here, some commentators explain to us that he had such a small salary. Shadow on the wattle fence only suggest.
      Thank you.
    5. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 18 November 2015 15: 50 New
      +4
      "Как можно частным фирмам давать такие темы"/////

      In the US, all military firms are private. No government.
      Spies, sometimes, start up, not without it, but very rarely.

      So that’s not the point. It must be strictly determined that it is possible
      show foreign customers what is not. And regularly update the lists.
      After all, Russia exports a lot of military products.
      Indians, Chinese, Arabs, Indonesians have a lot of Russian military devices
      on all kinds of equipment. And no engineering engineers arrest
      за "утечку знаний за границу".
      1. drop
        drop 18 November 2015 16: 10 New
        0
        Dear Alexey, this is not the case with a private company or a state-owned company. AOs in Russia are private, but with a package of government shares. And LLCs can only have such AOs as co-contractors. Then the head of the regime is AO.
        Вы представляете себе Госиспытания боевых систем и принятие их на вооружение. В постановлении правительства пишется "Принять на ......., систему созданную ООО и т.д.". Честь имею.
    6. glasha3032
      glasha3032 19 November 2015 01: 52 New
      0
      He did not work for some LLC .a state NGO. And what does the company's shares have to do with it? He betrayed his homeland, not speculating in stocks ...
  37. semuil
    semuil 18 November 2015 15: 12 New
    +1
    Фотка с какого то документа.Выражение лица из серии "внимание розыск".Неужели не обратили внимание,когда на работу брали?
  38. nrex
    nrex 18 November 2015 15: 13 New
    +3
    Quote: El_Nagual
    Ну надо же какие тут все кровожадные ... "...Я бы расстрелял..." ля ля ля...бла бла бла... А дай любому из вас пистолет и скажи стреляй в голову ближнему.. даже изменнику, да у вас между ног потечет.. ссыкуны малолетние и великовозрастные.. Клавиатурные герои и воины.. Платить надо ученым как следует, а сажать и упрекать легче легкого.. Понятно что Гос. Измена это архи плохо.. и понятно что сажать надо за такие дела... и на долго.. но... НАДО ПЛАТИТЬ ЛЮДЯМ КАК СЛЕДУЕТ ЧТО БЫ СОБЛАЗНА АПРИОРИ НЕ ВОЗНИКАЛО... А то получается так что человек ради страны ночами не спит годами... пашет, вкладывает свои мозги и нервы а ему 20-30 тысяч в зубы и выживай как можешь.. я не шучу про 20-30 тысяч.. я живу в Новосибирске и у нас есть завод который самолеты производит... зарплаты там прямо таки ниже нижнего... Ни кто по 100 тысяч и отдаленно не получает... а по хорошему таким то людям надо бы по 200-300 штук платить а то получается что депутаты 450 штук в месяц а ученый на благо Родины трудящийся с гулькин нос...


    And are you ready to sell your homeland? Prompt phone or already have? Boiling up? Read the headline again. After all, he didn’t do everything alone, he sold the work of more than one team, and after all he didn’t share it with anyone else.))) Would you share the Siberian?
  39. Vityok
    Vityok 18 November 2015 15: 14 New
    0
    С.ка! Ничего святого у таких нет! Родину продавать? Ему лоб "зеленкой намазать" angry
  40. gg.na
    gg.na 18 November 2015 15: 14 New
    +1
    There are still enough moral freaks in the ranks of those who are involved in state secrets, and here they are moral ones for 9 years ....... Yes to the wall of these! am
  41. cosmos-PS
    cosmos-PS 18 November 2015 15: 15 New
    -1
    They gave a normal term, and if they had put the documentation that they had sold in one place for the whole term, they would have seemed lifelong in general.
  42. v1tz
    v1tz 18 November 2015 15: 16 New
    -1
    По фото видно что особь неадекватна, на представителя с западной украины похож, чем то напоминает "художника" который яйцо к Красной площади пригвоздил.
  43. TIO1969
    TIO1969 18 November 2015 15: 17 New
    +4
    Quote: wk
    «Людомирский был главным инженером научно-производственного комплекса "Электрооптика", и принимал участие в разработке систем вооружения танка "Армата", БМП "Курганец-25", БТР "Бумеранг" и в модернизации систем ПВО "Тор" и "Бук"»


    forgot about Yars, Mace, Iskander, Sarmat .... and AK - 47 .....

    желтуха чистой воды.... ну журналюги... если причёсываете для раздувания сенсации... знайте меру.... современные инженеры работают по очень узким направлениям... времена Леонардо и "эдисонов" давно позади!


    Unfortunately, this may well be true. Given that Electrooptics specializes in the development and production of laser strapdown inertial navigation systems (SINS), their basic elements, as well as specialized software, he and his subordinates could be involved in the development of equipment that is used in various weapon systems.

    I hope this bastard could not convey too much ..
  44. kramen
    kramen 18 November 2015 15: 20 New
    +1
    to his wall and let everyone know!
  45. Winter cherry
    Winter cherry 18 November 2015 15: 32 New
    0
    Quote: adept666
    His salary should be decent, and his career has not developed badly ...
    well, money is not always decisive, there are other motives.

    Chief Designer, what else is needed?
  46. Benya krik
    Benya krik 18 November 2015 15: 44 New
    0
    Quote: sever.56
    http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/662/izcw550.png

    Vlad hi You're right!
    Вот уже и немедленная реакция "неполживого" Гудкова-младшего...
    Well, what to do with such creatures? How much can you endure them
    heinous bullying of everything that is good in Russia?
    It is necessary to do something with these creatures so far within the framework of the law.
    And then after all, someone can end the patient !!!

    Такая статья как 275 ук РФ , должна быть первична т.е. краеугольным камнем в кодексе . Мы сильны , пока сильно наше государство , ведь самый опасный враг , это тот кто под личиной друга , брата , соплеменника тихонько убивает нашу Родину , делая сильнее тем самым врага . От внутренних паразитов есть лекарства , типа омона , следователей и оперов , а вот информация которая уже находится в распоряжении врага ( или потенциального врага) теперь играет против нас и изменить сей факт , нет ни кокой возможности. Искренне считаю , что необходимо вернуть высшую меру наказания за измену Родине по п. "а" ст. 64 УК РСФСР и ещё расширить квалификацию по этой статье за расхитительство и коррупцию в оборонке.
  47. shurik
    shurik 18 November 2015 15: 54 New
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    Why so little? For such things just right for life.
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  49. Tjeck
    Tjeck 18 November 2015 15: 57 New
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    for this it is necessary to give a shot, and this is taking into account cooperation, and so put on a stake in the Red Square.
  50. RUDY
    RUDY 18 November 2015 16: 02 New
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    Still, I believe that it is necessary to shoot for treason. To be afraid. What is 9 years then? Ugh...