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The latest Serpukhov and Zeleny Dol small rocket ships arrived from Novorossiysk to the Sevastopol base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.

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Head of the Information Support Department of the Black Sea fleet Vyacheslav Trukhachev told the press that two of the newest small missile ships, Zeleny Dol and Serpukhov, armed with cruise missiles of the Caliber-NK complex, arrived at the base of the Black Sea Fleet in Sevastopol. These ships will be the first ships of the project that make up the Sevastopol MRC brigade.


Information Agency TASS quotes Vyacheslav Trukhachev's statement:
Today, the latest IRCs of the Black Sea Fleet "Serpukhov" and "Green Dol" arrived at the place of permanent deployment in Sevastopol. On the eve they successfully completed state trials in Novorossiysk and made a daily transition to the main fleet base.


The latest Serpukhov and Zeleny Dol small rocket ships arrived from Novorossiysk to the Sevastopol base of the Russian Black Sea Fleet.


Small rocket ships "Green Dol" and "Serpukhov" were built according to the 21631 project. Three ships of this project ("Grad Sviyazhsk", "Veliky Ustyug" and "Uglich") are already in service with the Russian Navy, namely the Caspian Flotilla. These ships struck terrorist groups in Syria on October 7 of the current year from the Caspian Sea.

The ISCs of the 21631 project belong to the multi-purpose ships of the river-sea project. Main rocket weapon - long-range cruise missiles of the Caliber-NK complex. The ships are armed with various models of anti-aircraft, artillery and anti-sabotage weapons.
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  1. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 18 November 2015 13: 47 New
    +9
    Well done boys!
    1. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 18 November 2015 13: 51 New
      20
      Six such boats at the Black Sea Fleet will be accepted bully

      Main characteristics
      Displacement 949 t
      Xnumx length m
      11 width m
      6,57 height m
      Draft 2,6 m
      M507A diesel engines
      Power 7355 kW
      Propulsion jet
      25 nodes travel speed
      Cruising range at a speed of 12 knots up to 2500 miles
      Autonomy of swimming 10 days
      Crew 29-36 people (according to the manufacturer - 52)
      weaponry
      Artillery 1 × 1-100mm AU A-190 Universal, 2 machine gun mounts 14,5 mm, 3 machine gun mounts 7,62 mm
      Anti-aircraft artillery 1-2 × 6-30mm ZAK AK-630M-2 “Duet”
      Missile weapons 1 × 8 "Caliber" or "Onyx" good
      2 launcher 3M47-01 "Bending R" with SAM "Igla" or "Igla-M"
      1. Baikonur
        Baikonur 18 November 2015 13: 54 New
        +8
        RTOs of project 21631 are multi-purpose ships of the river-sea project. The main missile weapon is the long-range cruise missiles of the Caliber-NK complex.
        As if emphasizing: DON'T BE ANGRY, DO NOT climb, DO NOT POOL your jackal-pig snout!
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      3. Angro Magno
        Angro Magno 18 November 2015 14: 36 New
        +5
        The river is the sea. Therefore, they can enter the Dnieper or Southern Bug.
        1. kill the fascist
          kill the fascist 18 November 2015 15: 49 New
          +8
          why would they enter the Dnieper if there are Caliber on board? shot and forgot, Caliber themselves will go where necessary.
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        3. Hyppopotut
          Hyppopotut 18 November 2015 17: 11 New
          +6
          I understand that a dream, but I want to see them both on the Dnieper and on the Bug !!! fellow
      4. domokl
        domokl 18 November 2015 15: 28 New
        11
        Fuuuu ... Well, thank God, at least someone will resist the new Ukrainian brinecaters lol
    2. cniza
      cniza 18 November 2015 13: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Good AAAH
      Well done boys!



      In Sevastopol, is it closer to Ukraine? I think that soon they will be pulled on the Iblises in Syria, it is necessary to try on from the Black Sea basin (I think Turkey will give the go-ahead wink ).
      1. Good me
        Good me 18 November 2015 14: 52 New
        +1
        Quote: cniza
        In Sevastopol, is it closer to Ukraine?


        No, it used to be: "closer to Ukraine", which cut both the hearing and the heart ...


        Now, "closer to Russia" ... there, you look, and the bridge will arrive in time ...
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    4. Good me
      Good me 18 November 2015 13: 59 New
      +4
      The censor, too, reacted.

      southeast
      Is he beaten up?
      18.11.2015 12:33

      vigo
      Maxim, to fall, they must first take off. Recently, we have already seen how rockets "take off" from your vessel in Sevastopol.
      So, flutter, Sevastopol cotton wool, not everything that has wings can fly.
      I am not hinting at chickens, but at rockets of the Russian rucoproduction.
      18.11.2015 12:41

      Wevelsburg
      sho?
      again the boats in the scratchopol gathered to drown?

      take pity on the underwater world of the black sea.

      Or will you take cotton wool on them when you flee? so to speak easy move ....
      or will you moo only shy? corridors in Crimea punching?
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    5. 79807420129
      79807420129 18 November 2015 14: 01 New
      17
      Well, the second glass for seven feet under the keel of the MRK! They say Petrukh can not get out of the binge for several days.
    6. Anton Gavrilov
      Anton Gavrilov 18 November 2015 14: 32 New
      23
      This year there will be 5 ships delivered. Young people Zelenodoltsy, there’s simply no price for the number of orders handed over!
      1. Anton Gavrilov
        Anton Gavrilov 18 November 2015 14: 32 New
        +2
        There are still good photos

        http://balabin-1712.livejournal.com/10944.html
    7. Sterlya
      Sterlya 18 November 2015 16: 51 New
      +1
      Definitely. Crimea, the unsinkable aircraft carrier of Russia, must be well fortified, as it always was.
    8. little girl15
      little girl15 18 November 2015 17: 10 New
      +2
      Small, and so spiky ... NATO has Scabies on a nervous basis.
  2. Severodvinsk
    Severodvinsk 18 November 2015 13: 48 New
    12
    Europe tensed nervously looking for compasses
    1. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 18 November 2015 13: 55 New
      14
      Quote: Severodvinsk
      Europe tensed nervously looking for compasses


      So much so that Estonia has slowly begun to build a fence from Russia, they are not yet on the kuursey! They don’t even know why the sea is there, and the authorities say they’ll build a fence here, then they’ll thinklaughing
    2. Lord of the Sith
      Lord of the Sith 18 November 2015 14: 02 New
      +6
      Quote: Severodvinsk
      Europe tensed nervously looking for compasses

      Last time they measured from the Crimea to Berlin and Paris flies.
      1. Good me
        Good me 18 November 2015 14: 15 New
        +9
        Quote: Lord of the Sith
        Quote: Severodvinsk
        Europe tensed nervously looking for compasses


        Last time they measured from the Crimea to Berlin and Paris flies.


        Taking into account the "roundness of the Earth", the "circular" and the real "cover" zone from the Crimea and the Caspian zone are given.

        To zoom in on the picture, click.
        1. Semen Semyonitch
          Semen Semyonitch 18 November 2015 16: 58 New
          +5
          Qatar and Saudis rush to build bunkers lol Madrid are frantically dying out with a compass, really, really, they don’t reach them from the Black Sea? Lisbon relaxed relieved .. laughing But the insidious Russians, as always, again fooled with a range of "Caliber" ... lol
  3. kebeskin
    kebeskin 18 November 2015 13: 51 New
    +6
    Well, now all Ukrainians will have news about the invasion of an entire armada of the Russian fleet.
    1. ilya_oz
      ilya_oz 18 November 2015 15: 18 New
      +5
      No, it's rusty vessels without rockets. Another thing is inflatable boats from the best friends - Americans! laughing
  4. sinukvl
    sinukvl 18 November 2015 13: 51 New
    +2
    Well, that’s it. Northern Gabons will now go to feces. Waiting for.
  5. Maxom75
    Maxom75 18 November 2015 13: 51 New
    11
    The Black Sea Fleet renewal has begun. Thank God now the fleet is at home and should feel like a complete master in the Black Sea!
    1. Semen Semyonitch
      Semen Semyonitch 18 November 2015 17: 03 New
      +1
      Yes, and from the coast we feel good there ... That must be a shame for the Turks ...
  6. roskot
    roskot 18 November 2015 13: 51 New
    +6
    Good.
    Still a dozen would not hinder.
  7. pomegranate
    pomegranate 18 November 2015 13: 52 New
    +3
    These are there along the way with nothing on ISIS did not fucking? laughing
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 18 November 2015 14: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: pomegranate
      These are there along the way with nothing on ISIS did not fucking? laughing

      The Rostov-on-Don submarine has not yet shot back ... we must take a turn laughing
    2. Good me
      Good me 18 November 2015 14: 34 New
      +2
      Quote: pomegranate
      These are there along the way with nothing on ISIS did not fucking? laughing


      Quote: NEXUS

      The Rostov-on-Don submarine has not yet shot back ... we must take a turn laughing


      Already published information in another thread. But I’ll take a chance (Moderators and administrators! Please pretend that you didn’t notice ... wink ).

      Information not yet confirmed or refuted by official sources.


      Submarine "Rostov-on-Don" struck "Caliber" on ISIS

      2015-11-17 21:17 События

      Today, Russia delivered Caliber cruise missile attacks on the IS capital from a submarine in the Mediterranean Sea. This is the first practical use of such weapons. By order of Russian President Vladimir Putin, this was the response to the confirmation of the attack on board the A321 in Egypt.

      The Russian diesel-electric submarine Rostov-on-Don, making the transition from the Northern Fleet to Novorossiysk, delivered Caliber cruise missiles from the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea against targets? in the vicinity of the Syrian city of Rakka, the capital of the Islamic State banned in Russia, RBC reported citing a source close to the Russian Defense Ministry.
      The aim of the attacks from the Rostov-on-Don submarine firing camps was training bases, headquarters, stockpiles of weapons and ammunition, and militant units. The strike was carried out along a ballistic trajectory at an altitude of several kilometers to avoid incidents due to busy shipping in the Mediterranean Sea. The launch from the Rostov-on-Don submarine was the first use of cruise missiles launched from a submarine at a real enemy’s targets in the history of the Russian armed forces.
      1. Fonmeg
        Fonmeg 18 November 2015 15: 40 New
        +1
        Recently built in St. Petersburg for the Black Sea Fleet and completed the state test program in the North, Rostov-on-Don is now making the transition to a permanent base in Novorossiysk. And really passes through the Mediterranean Sea. It is actually the only Russian carrier of long-range cruise missiles capable of hitting ground targets in the area. Therefore, attracting a submarine to strike at the “Islamic State” looks more than logical.

        Moreover, in early November, on the way from the Barents to the Black Sea, the submarine made a mysterious unplanned call to Kronstadt. Many then suspected that a serious damage had occurred on the ship. But the pier with Rostov-on-Don was suddenly blocked from prying eyes by large trucks. Which is completely uncharacteristic for repair work. But the urgent and secret loading of cruise missiles is very similar.


        In continuation of the subtopic. But the military has not yet confirmed the reality of the strike with "calibers" from submarines.
  8. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 18 November 2015 13: 53 New
    +3
    It’s time for them to go to the Mediterranean and the “Caliber” by ISIS !!!
    1. SOKOL777
      SOKOL777 18 November 2015 14: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: VohaAhov
      It’s time for them to go to the Mediterranean and the “Caliber” by ISIS !!!


      The time will come, ride ...
      They tested the Caspian, here God himself ordered.
      And combat training and testing, and for the marine soul it is useful to feel the strength of their weapons.
      All in one bottle ... good

      I envy you, our dear sailors, in the good sense of the word.

      "Our cause is just, the enemy will be defeated, Victory will be ours!"
      I. Stalin.
  9. air wolf
    air wolf 18 November 2015 13: 57 New
    +1
    More ekranoplanchiki would have done and would have been a holiday!
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 18 November 2015 14: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: air wolf
      More ekranoplanchiki would have done and would have been a holiday!

      I agree with you, but only for 99,99% of the brothers in arms found here this topic is "taboo", and its adherents in terms of intelligence are a priori equated to babies by default.
      1. amba balamut 77
        amba balamut 77 18 November 2015 14: 23 New
        +1
        Tell me, if in the subject, what kind of garbage with ekranoplans, why do we not like them so much? What kind of persecution?
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 18 November 2015 17: 02 New
          +1
          Quote: amba balamut 77
          Tell me, if in the subject, what kind of garbage with ekranoplans, why do we not like them so much? What kind of persecution?

          In fact, they simply could not find applications and concepts. Now they seem to have begun to breathe life into the program of ekranoplans. But so far, again, the concept of application has not been voiced. Besides, it is not clear what weapons they will put on them. I suspect that these will be complexes Caliber-NK, or something similar to Onyx anti-ship missiles (possibly in the future ZIRCON project missiles, or whoever knows the analogue) hi
        2. V.ic
          V.ic 18 November 2015 20: 38 New
          +1
          Quote: amba balamut 77
          then for garbage with ekranoplans, why do they not like them so much for us? What kind of persecution?

          Yes you? Looboff sovershenno iscrenniaja, although not divided by the defense budget. Who needs a combat ship / aircraft with a speed exceeding the speed of the helicopter, with a load exceeding the capacity of the helicopter, moreover, with the ability / due to engine power / to rise to the heights of echelons of the Naval Forces, though for a short time. Well, who the hell do you need contraption capable of landing a landing near Istanbul in a couple of hours, approximately in the amount of a landing company with the support of two or three IFVs? / with one piece /. Laughter! You can tear your tummies right! lol
  10. Winter cherry
    Winter cherry 18 November 2015 13: 59 New
    +1
    Good - small but daring. We need these for inland seas.
  11. v1tz
    v1tz 18 November 2015 14: 03 New
    +2
    With replenishment, Sevastopol ...
  12. Wolka
    Wolka 18 November 2015 14: 03 New
    0
    Now Turks, Romanians, Gypsies, Bulgarians and Khokhlyaks nervously smoke aside ...
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 18 November 2015 20: 19 New
      0
      Quote: Volka
      Turks, Romanian-gypsies, Bulgarians and Khokhlyaks nervously smoke aside ...

      Smoking = harm to health!
  13. Winter cherry
    Winter cherry 18 November 2015 14: 06 New
    0
    Quote: Lord of the Sith
    Quote: Severodvinsk
    Europe tensed nervously looking for compasses

    Last time they measured from the Crimea to Berlin and Paris flies.

    On the highway from major cities only Lviv
    1. Good me
      Good me 18 November 2015 14: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Winter Cherry
      On the highway from major cities only Lviv

      See the map above for the text ...
  14. igor1981
    igor1981 18 November 2015 14: 07 New
    0
    "Green Dol" and "Serpukhov" is only the beginning, for the Black Sea Fleet four more such ships (project 21631 Buyan-M) will be built.
  15. roskot
    roskot 18 November 2015 14: 07 New
    +3
    In our Black Sea we are the masters. And in our sea only with permission.
  16. Conscience
    Conscience 18 November 2015 14: 08 New
    +2
    But what about American missile defense? what
    obviously it's time for metal! yes
    all their hardware will soon be useless. good
  17. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 18 November 2015 14: 08 New
    +2
    A set of Iskander-M missile systems was delivered to the troops of the Southern Military District. This was announced on Wednesday by the press service of the Scientific and Production Complex Engineering Design Bureau (KBM). The Iskander-M OTRK brigade set includes a total of 51 vehicles: 12 launchers, 12 transport -charging machines, 11 command and staff vehicles, 14 life support vehicles, 1 regulation and maintenance vehicle, 1 information preparation point. One Iskander-M kit includes four types of aeroballistic and cruise missiles.
  18. basilisk
    basilisk 18 November 2015 14: 12 New
    +2
    With the replenishment of the Black Sea Fleet! Good ships and 16 "calibers" or "Onyx" +
    Sincerely.
    1. amba balamut 77
      amba balamut 77 18 November 2015 14: 28 New
      +3
      Do not consider greed, but I want to have more. And ships and missiles.
      1. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 18 November 2015 14: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: amba balamut 77
        Do not consider greed, but I want to have more. And ships and missiles.


        Here, on this issue, everyone will understand you, they yourself are :) "Doctor, give me more pills for greed and more, doctor, MORE!" :)
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  19. gladysheff2010
    gladysheff2010 18 November 2015 14: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: kebeskin
    Well, now all Ukrainians will have news about the invasion of an entire armada of the Russian fleet.

    In addition to the “non-fallow lands” Transnistria is close by. Well, the Black Sea Fleet has convincing arguments, the entire Middle East is in the firing zone without leaving the harbor, and Europe will be more tidy — the Adriatic coast is at a glance, if we want, we will help Serbia restore its sovereignty and territorial control over Kosovo! tongue
  20. Winter cherry
    Winter cherry 18 November 2015 14: 17 New
    0
    Transnistria may now be calm. No ssakashvili will attack them. C-300 in the Dniester estuary at gunpoint.
  21. amba balamut 77
    amba balamut 77 18 November 2015 14: 18 New
    +2
    TTX is very sickly. BUT even 6 pcs. it’s a detachment, and on the Black Sea you need a fleet and not every creature in a pair, but a balanced, powerful one. The coastal units, the Air Force, PL, MRK, helpers are Turkish partners' strength and good candidate, but frigates are needed from the nose and fleet, and not a little. So that all kinds of mongrels, and La Cook did not even think to poke here. Yes, and the Ottomans are completely fucked up, one minute of silence on football is worth it. East respects power, and best of all, large surface ships demonstrate it at sea. Zhdems Grigorovich and Co.
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 18 November 2015 14: 43 New
      +1
      What are the big ships to do in the Black Sea? A detachment of 6 RTOs is a possible 36 onyxes in pu .. we ply onshore complexes and aviation .. This is already an overabundance of firepower. Large ships - big hikes.
      1. amba balamut 77
        amba balamut 77 18 November 2015 14: 55 New
        0
        The Black Sea, although inland, is not a puddle. MRK has two minuses, air defense and seaworthiness. Frigates in this regard are much more serious. In addition, they are ships of the 2nd rank. Here Antei Moscow it is possible bust, for the Black Sea Fleet, but only if there is a replacement, for example frigates.
        1. dvina71
          dvina71 18 November 2015 15: 55 New
          0
          Quote: amba balamut 77
          MRK has two minuses, air defense and seaworthiness

          Air defense? S-400 in the Crimea and aviation .. EMNIP .. Su-30cm .. already there .. Why with such an umbrella MRK powerful air defense? And why "Grigorovich" with its 3C90.1 under this umbrella?
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  23. ydjin
    ydjin 18 November 2015 14: 30 New
    +3
    Good boats, for the Black Sea just right! With their relative cheapness, they have good potential and a sufficiently "long arm" to deliver a headache to the so-called "partners" from Europe to the Middle East! The optimal ratio of price-quality and features!
  24. cte-power
    cte-power 18 November 2015 15: 14 New
    0
    Of course, I’m not special guys in the fleet, but I think the time has passed for healthy floating coffins
    aircraft carriers are also in the furnace when there are high-speed small missile ships and cruise missiles
    1. Hyppopotut
      Hyppopotut 18 November 2015 17: 15 New
      -1
      Carriers are not good against a real enemy. And against all igilas - very good. hi
  25. Urals
    Urals 18 November 2015 15: 15 New
    0
    I am glad that the fleet is being updated. Just something about the Pacific Fleet was completely forgotten.
  26. slizhov
    slizhov 18 November 2015 15: 25 New
    +1
    amid 40 tanks to the Baltic states, even for NATO it’s not a trifle :)
  27. Shooting
    Shooting 18 November 2015 15: 31 New
    +2
    It seems to me that such a "mosquito fleet" is the best option for us in this situation.
    - We have no claims to world ocean dominance
    -Production and maintenance feasible
    -Perform almost any tasks necessary to solve us in the current situation
    - It’s harder for an adversary to detect and destroy

    PS: I am not an expert, but it seems to me that not only strike boats, but also air defense ones would be very popular
  28. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 18 November 2015 15: 38 New
    0
    The main missile weapons are long-range cruise missiles of the Caliber-NK complex.

    It seems to me that the main missile weapon of the RTOs will be all the same - the P-800 Onyx
  29. marinier
    marinier 18 November 2015 16: 54 New
    +2
    The fact is without conditionally positive, and the weaponization is serious. Question to the experts?
    Do the kids have warships, a system of hosoziu on Idzis ???. That is, Ia meant
    STELS system.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 18 November 2015 20: 21 New
      0
      Quote: marinier
      Do the kids have warships, a system of storage on idzis???. That eats
      system STELS.

      А It is the same from your point / bumps / view?
    2. atalef
      atalef 18 November 2015 20: 28 New
      0
      Quote: marinier
      The fact is without conditionally positive, and the arrhythmias are serous.survey to connoisseurs?
      Do the kids have warships, a system of maintenance? on idzis??.That eats eeyore
      STELS system
      .

      With NATO officers like you laughing Yes, the Papuans have nothing to fear
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 19 November 2015 06: 02 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        With NATO officers like you

        Well, not worth it. "youkat ", it is necessary to"you"/yougov /you.boo/youchasing / ...
  30. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 18 November 2015 17: 09 New
    0
    Today in Sevastopol, tomorrow in Tartus ... winked
  31. Old26
    Old26 18 November 2015 18: 54 New
    0
    Quote: kill the fascist
    why would they enter the Dnieper if there are Caliber on board? shot and forgot, Caliber themselves will go where necessary.

    Of course they will. They are unbreakable and go at the 6th cosmic speed .... Damn, experts got it ...

    Quote: cniza
    In Sevastopol, is it closer to Ukraine? I think that soon they will be pulled on the Iblises in Syria, it is necessary to try on from the Black Sea basin (I think Turkey will give the go-ahead

    From the Black Sea? Are you, dear, everything is all right with your head? Strategist, damn it ...

    Quote: Vovochka15
    Small, and so spiky ... NATO has Scabies on a nervous basis.

    Scabies are mostly among Urya-patriots. Both our experts and Westerners know the price of such "river-sea" class ships ... They are put on the Black Sea because of hopelessness, since the supply of all 6 frigates is delayed. Three will be delivered, but three will never know when ...

    Quote: VohaAhov
    It’s time for them to go to the Mediterranean and the “Caliber” by ISIS !!!

    More seagoing RTOs fleet command rarely sent to Middle-earth, and even then in the summer, when there are no storms, and forum strategists decided to send punts there in the fall and winter ??? Well, well, writers, burn napalm further .... Not for you to go there on these fragile little ships. It’s easier to rake the heat with someone else’s hands ....

    Quote: coconut tim
    One Iskander-M kit includes four types of aeroballistic and cruise missiles.

    I wonder which ones? Do not voice? Desirable indicating the indices?

    Quote: roskot
    In our Black Sea we are the masters. And in our sea only with permission.

    Yeah, right now. Buy a lip-cutting machine. We are the owners, having a fleet weaker than that of Turkey - of course, the owners ... And they put with the device for your permission. Teach the materiel. The treaty, for example, is the text of the Montreux Convention, and preferably not from Wikipedia, but more detailed. And then broadcast maxims like: "into our sea - with our permission." And actually this is the sea - of the Ukrainians, they are it, and not you yourself dug up ...
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  33. Old26
    Old26 18 November 2015 18: 56 New
    0
    Quote: gladysheff2010
    In addition to the “non-fallow lands” Transnistria is close by. Well, the Black Sea Fleet has convincing arguments, the entire Middle East is in the shelling zone, without leaving the harbor

    What will you shoot through? Which country ????

    Quote: dvina71
    Air defense? S-400 in the Crimea and aviation .. EMNIP .. Su-30cm .. already there .. Why with such an umbrella MRK powerful air defense?

    If you don’t go more than 50-100 km from the coast, you don’t need to, although again, where exactly. And a little further - that's it. And the S-300 and S-400 will not save. It is not their task to cover the ships ...

    Quote: cte-power
    Of course, I’m not special guys in the fleet, but I think that the time has passed for healthy floating coffins, the carriers were also in the furnace when there are high-speed small missile ships and cruise missiles

    You repeat the mistake of Admiral Amelko. He believed at the beginning of his career about the same as you. That the mosquito fleet will drown everyone and everything. True, he still understood his misconceptions. You look like - alas, no ...

    Quote: marinier
    The fact is without conditionally positive, and the weaponization is serious. Question to the experts?
    Do the kids have warships, a system of storage for Idzis ???. That is, I mean the STELS system.

    And where does the "Aegis" and "stealth"? These are two completely different things ...
    A system similar to Aegis, that is, an air defense system?
    Yes they do. Range of about 6 km and reach in height of 3,5 km versus 240 km in range and 33 km of reach in height "Standard SM-2ER"
  34. Old26
    Old26 18 November 2015 19: 01 New
    0
    Quote: amba balamut 77
    Tell me, if in the subject, what kind of garbage with ekranoplans, why do we not like them so much? What kind of persecution?

    For uselessness. We tested them only in the Caspian. In range they lose to ships, in speed - to planes. No self-defense systems. In short - "they wanted the best, but it turned out as always." Small ekranoplanes are still profitable, large ones - history itself has shown and made a decision. All landing "Eagles" decommissioned (and not in the 90s, but EMNIP around 2005), missile "Lun" rust on a slip at the factory "Dagdiesel" in Kaspiysk
  35. alex80
    alex80 18 November 2015 19: 13 New
    0
    Quote: amba balamut 77
    Here Antei Moscow it is possible bust, for the Black Sea Fleet, but only if there is a replacement, for example frigates.

    You probably wanted to say Atlant Moscow hi And then the submarine pr.949A Antey for the Black Sea Fleet is clearly too much laughing
    1. amba balamut 77
      amba balamut 77 19 November 2015 03: 29 New
      0
      I made a mistake, I repent, your truth. hi