Operation “Tidal Wave II”

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On November 16, the New York Times reported on the US Air Force’s air strikes against a convoy of tank trucks that Islamic State militants use to smuggle oil. 116 trucks from 295 were destroyed. Analysts wondered: why so far the United States has not undertaken similar attacks against terrorists who profit from the oil trade?



Journalist Michael Gordon, whose material was released on November 16 in "New York Times", rejects the version that the US has intensified in Syria because of the Paris attacks.

In a report from Istanbul, the correspondent writes about "increasing pressure" on the "Islamic state" undertaken by the United States of America, whose planes "first attacked hundreds of trucks" used by an extremist group "to smuggle crude oil produced in Syria." This was stated by US officials.

It is estimated that as a result of air strikes near Deir al-Zour in eastern Syria, 116 trucks of Islamic State militants were destroyed. Air strikes struck four A-10 attack aircraft and two AC-130 support aircraft. Aircraft took off from the airfield in Turkey.

Officials familiar with the operation reported that a plan of attack on militant trucks was developed long before the terrorist attacks in Paris and its environs. Air strikes are part of a “broad operation” to disrupt the financing of IG activities through the smuggling of oil.

American officials, the publication points out, have long sought to put an end to the production and export of oil, with the help of which Islamic State militants collect tens of millions of dollars every month. And to finally stop this “financing,” the US government said last week that the United States “dramatically stepped up” air strikes against the infrastructure of the Islamic state, which produces Syrian oil.

However, the United States did not strike on Monday a thousand trucks with tanks used by militants to transport oil, since there was a great risk of civilian casualties. The publication believes that at the current moment the oil logistics of the “Islamic State” has remained “basically unchanged.”

The new American campaign against IG is called Tidal Wave II. This operation was named in honor of the efforts undertaken during the Second World War against Nazi Germany - at a time when strikes were launched against the oil industry of Romania.

Americans are taking some measures that allow the local population to escape from the bombings. To reduce the risk of harm to civilians, two F-15s were flying leaflets in front of the attacks. It was about an hour before applying air strikes. Drivers were urged to abandon driving at this time. In addition, another warning was made - in the form of shaving flights.

A-10 dropped two dozen 500-pounder bombs and fired at a convoy of 295 trucks from Gatling's 30 millimeter cannons. AC-130 used 30-millimeter and 105-millimeter guns.

According to the American official, there were no victims among the civilian population.

Colonel Stephen Warren, a representative of the American coalition in Baghdad, confirmed that A-10 and AC-130 had destroyed 116 trucks. He also said that "Tidal Wave II" is aimed at stopping the smuggling of IG oil and at "weakening" the ability of terrorists to "finance their military operations."

Interestingly, we’ll add on our own that at the G20 summit, Vladimir Putin was just talking about columns of gasoline tank trucks, where IG militants carry smuggling oil.

On the margins of the summit G20 in Antalya, the channel reports "NTV", the President of the Russian Federation showed pictures from space, showing the enormous scale of oil trade by IG militants. V. Putin said: “I showed our colleagues pictures from space and from an aircraft, which clearly shows the scale of the illegal trade in oil and oil products.”

According to the leader of Russia, the pictures show columns of fuel trucks stretching for many kilometers.

Speaking at a press conference following the G20 summit, V. Putin stressed the need to create an international antiterrorist coalition. Understanding that terrorism needs to be fought together comes to the United States, the Russian president said, recalling that Washington had first rejected Moscow’s proposal for joining forces.

However, let us add, Washington will not decide on a land operation in Syria. At least during the reign of Obama, who has a year to sit on the presidential throne. And without a powerful land strike, it is impossible to defeat the militants. However, in Washington came up with a way out of this difficult situation. In fact, there are the Kurds, whom the White House has long sympathized with.

The Americans have been talking about the coming assault on the so-called "capital" of the "Islamic state" for a fortnight. This is the Syrian city of Ar-Raqqah. Assault, of course, will be taken by proxy.

16 November became aware of the delivery of the next fifty tons of ammunition to the “Democratic Forces of Syria”, which include the Kurdish people's self-defense detachments and some opposition units, including the remnants of the Syrian Free Army. The purpose of these fighters - just storming Rakki.

In the meantime, Russia is attacking the militants' positions.

As reported on November 17 RIA News", Tu-22М3 bombers attacked IG facilities in the Syrian provinces of Racca and Deir ez-Zor. This was announced by Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu.

According to him, the strategic missile-carriers Tu-160 and Tu-22MS fired 34 air-launched cruise missiles at the targets of the IG.

As for the American strategy, it was appreciated by some Russian experts.

Director of the Center for the Study of the Countries of the Middle East and Central Asia, Semen Bagdasarov, reminded that before the war, the population of Ar-Raqqah was over 300 thousand people. "The vast majority of the population are Sunni Muslims," ​​he said. "Free Press". “But there was also a Christian community, most of which, apparently, either ran away or was destroyed. Thus, the population of the capital "IG", most likely, shares the views of jihadists. So, perhaps, Ar-Raqqi’s carpet bombing would be the right decision. Still, we are talking about a relatively small space. After the massive air strikes, the “Syrian Democratic Forces” would be able to quickly take R-Raqqa quickly enough. I recall that the Iraqi Kurds, the Peshmerga, took less than two days to take Sinjar. ”

The leading researcher of the Department of Defense Policy of RISI, Candidate of Military Sciences Vladimir Karyakin, on the contrary, believes that in the age of high precision weapons strange to hear proposals for the use of carpet bombing. “Carpet bombing is no longer modern methods of warfare,” he explained. - The United States has an impressive arsenal of precision weapons, which they could successfully use to attack the positions of militants. Of course, free-falling bombs are cheaper ammunition, but it’s still hard to believe that the Americans, especially after Russian volleys, with Caliber-NK cruise missiles, will use carpet bombing attacks to attack Ar-Raqqi. Reports about this (before Russia's intervention in the Syrian conflict) have already appeared in the American media, and, most likely, their goal is to demonstrate resolute intentions. ”

The deputy director of the Institute for Political and Military Analysis, Alexander Khramchikhin, generally believes that the planned assault on Al-Raqqi is almost a propaganda campaign. “Obviously, no one planned to storm Rakki before the Russian one appeared in Syria aviation- said the expert to the Free Press. - Therefore, all the current convulsions of the United States and its allies, expressed in the formation of a coalition and air strikes on the capital of the "caliphate", are just the consequences of Russian intervention, which must be somehow reacted to show that they are actually fighting terrorism. Although in reality no one in the West was going to fight him, especially Turkey, which is completely sitting on the oil of the "caliphate". As for France’s air strikes after the Paris attacks, it was a purely PR event, which, however, is almost the limit of the current French military capabilities. ”

It turns out, let's add on our own behalf, that the United States and its "coalition" this time does not want to "lag behind" Russia, against the backdrop of whose actions the successes of the Western military machine seem very modest. How is it that Paris is exploding, but Washington is not really fighting the "ISIS"? Analysts are rightly surprised by the low effectiveness of the US anti-terrorist operation in Syria: after all, no one prevented their bombers from hitting oil trucks before. Oh yes, Washington is worried about civilians! The concern is very strange, especially when you consider how many civilians the Pentagon has killed in Iraq, Afghanistan and Libya, as well as in Pakistan and other countries where they fly without any demand from local governments. Drones.

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    1. +26
      19 November 2015 06: 13
      Why could the Syrians not do this? Even the old MIG-21 could handle this.
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      2. +19
        19 November 2015 07: 59
        Perhaps their twinks would be shot down from Turkey, under the pretext of an invasion of airspace. ;)
        1. +6
          19 November 2015 10: 22
          called "Tidal Wave II."

          Urine in the head ..
          two F-15 aircraft scattered leaflets before the attacks. That was about an hour before the airstrikes.

          For an hour, these fuel trucks will be so dispersed that not a single bombardment will help, and here I didn’t finish up civilians, columns are not bombing in cities ....
      3. +7
        19 November 2015 08: 00
        As I understand it, Syrian aviation works on the frontier, it’s dangerous to work in the rear, there the coalition holds the sky there. But it will become a coalition, they can bring it down.
      4. +3
        19 November 2015 08: 02
        Quote: oldav
        Even the old MIG-21 could handle this.

        MiG-21 as a bomber? Get a medal named after Mikoyan and Tumansky, you deserve it! It would be interesting to see the use of RP-21 / TsD 30TPM on the TK column! Video do not lay out?
        1. +3
          19 November 2015 09: 42
          If I’m not mistaken, on the 21st they can hang up fabs on the suspension up to a ton, and NURSs. This, of course, is not an attack aircraft, but still ...
          1. -1
            19 November 2015 09: 50
            Quote: favn
            on the 21st, and fabs on the suspension up to a ton can be hung, and NURSs. This, of course, is not an attack aircraft, but still ...

            Well, what kind of PNK in the MiG-21 you stick? It is possible to suspend and the airship, but to hit the target = this will be a problem.
        2. +1
          19 November 2015 11: 12
          Used in this capacity in Afghanistan.
          1. -3
            19 November 2015 11: 33
            Quote: EvilLion
            Used as such in Afghanistan

            For lack of stamp write on closet?
        3. 0
          19 November 2015 16: 09
          and guns?
      5. +5
        19 November 2015 08: 18
        A-10 dropped two dozen 500-pounder bombs and fired at a convoy of 295 trucks from Gatling's 30 millimeter cannons. AC-130 used 30-millimeter and 105-millimeter guns.

        And even MANPADS were not frightened - neither the Stingers, nor the IGL or STREL ?! Strange ...
        1. +1
          19 November 2015 09: 16
          Quote: Starover_Z
          Even the old MIG-21 could handle this.

          in business, everyone cleans the garbage to which he belongs
      6. +1
        19 November 2015 09: 54
        Quote: oldav
        Why could the Syrians not do this? Even the old MIG-21 could handle this.

        Syrians also buy oil from traders. The main profit from oil is made by IG on the domestic market, contrary to popular opinion.
        1. Fat
          0
          19 November 2015 12: 04
          They have been fighting for 4 years. There are no reserves. A forced measure
        2. 0
          19 November 2015 16: 14
          Well, yes, the IG will sell to the enemy so that he will resist longer. turn on the logic! can of course and get through intermediaries, as they say: to whom the war, and to whom the mother is native
      7. +1
        19 November 2015 11: 12
        It is still necessary to detect, although the column in 300 machines is something.
        1. +1
          19 November 2015 16: 29
          yeah, a convoy of 295 cars destroyed 119 something that is small or not enough ammunition or integrity? belay
      8. +1
        19 November 2015 11: 21
        Quote: oldav
        Why could the Syrians not do this? Even the old MIG-21 could handle this.

        It's a pity the oil industry, not only ISIS has species on it. Well this is money, you will destroy the infrastructure and even more money will be needed for restoration, and the country is in ruins anyway.
        Acts of terrorism in Paris occurred, by the way, after the French bombed off at some oil industry facility in eastern Syria.
      9. Fat
        0
        19 November 2015 12: 02
        then the Yusovites would have aligned Syria. they bombed the Yuy in the Stone Age. and now under our cover they will not climb.
      10. +1
        19 November 2015 12: 34
        Quote: oldav
        Why could the Syrians not do this?


        Oil fields, terminals and refineries are the property of the Syrian Republic. To bomb them yourself is like a sickle in your own "OO". Probably they did not assume about the strength and resourcefulness of the IS, they thought that they would quickly regain control over the fields, but it did not work out. So we have to take drastic measures. Rebuilding after the war will have to be difficult, costly and long, but-but-but ....
      11. -1
        19 November 2015 18: 24
        Everyone is hitting fuel trucks on the march. Ours have already destroyed 500. Yeah, how much is a 500 kg "smart" bomb or cruise missile compared to a fuel tanker? It is necessary to beat at a gas station, where there are hundreds of these fuel trucks in one flock. Kill the gas station and there will be no fuel trucks.laughing
        1. 0
          19 November 2015 19: 16
          And it’s good that Turkish small business minus laughing
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      13. 0
        19 November 2015 19: 23
        EVERYWHERE and in Syria, including there are people who, as in the saying "who is war, and who is a mother," do not be surprised if around Assad, there are all sorts of "Pavlik Grachevs" and others like him, who profit from all this outrage.
      14. 0
        19 November 2015 20: 10
        Quote: oldav
        Why could the Syrians not do this? Even the old MIG-21 could handle this.

        Without proper provision, including electronic warfare, in that territory this is difficult. And the Syrians did not have free aircraft, for such operations, what was left of the former Syrian Air Force was used to directly support the troops.
      15. 0
        19 November 2015 23: 21
        Good time of day.
        I doubt very much as bombers
        1. 0
          19 November 2015 23: 52
          Oh, how they threatened Ban, so the Russian began to progress ...
    2. +19
      19 November 2015 06: 23
      Do mattresses always warn of air strikes? Then why didn’t the hard workers be warned before bombing the excavators?
      1. 0
        21 November 2015 10: 36
        Why didn’t the staff be warned before the bombing of the hospital?
    3. +5
      19 November 2015 06: 25
      Analysts wondered: why so far the US has not launched similar attacks against terrorists who profit from the oil trade?

      Did they need it?
      The flow of "left-wing" oil made it possible to reduce prices and put pressure on exporters, in particular on Russia.
      They are still trying to print their own little egg. Although this desire is becoming less and less common among them, because they failed to tear the Russian economy to shreds.
      1. +2
        19 November 2015 10: 14
        Quote: ImPerts
        Analysts wondered: why so far the US has not launched similar attacks against terrorists who profit from the oil trade?
        Did they need it?
        The flow of "left-wing" oil made it possible to reduce prices and put pressure on exporters, in particular on Russia.

        Why do not the VKS bomb the columns of fuel trucks?
        1. 0
          19 November 2015 12: 10
          corrected:
          In recent days, the Russian air group destroyed 500 fuel trucks that were used by the Islamic State (IS) to export oil from Syria for processing to Iraq. This was told to journalists by the head of the Main Operations Directorate of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces Andrei Kartapolov, reports TASS.
      2. +1
        19 November 2015 10: 16
        Quote: ImPerts
        The flow of "left-wing" oil made it possible to reduce prices and put pressure on exporters, in particular on Russia.

        I do not agree. How domestic sales can affect global prices? Traders prefer to send oil to the nearest refinery and then throw it on the exchange. And the animals are not so dumped, it all depends on the quality of the raw materials. Barrel with Al-Tanaka and Al Omar leaves for $ 40-45
    4. +8
      19 November 2015 06: 27
      American officials, the publication points out, have long sought to put an end to oil production and export, through which Islamic State militants raise tens of millions of dollars every month. ... They gathered for several years and now decided, aaaabaldet! smile
    5. +16
      19 November 2015 06: 35
      I don’t understand why chasing fuel trucks when there are places where they are refueled. One hit will leave thousands of cars without a load. Smashing bases is much more efficient. This applies to our aviation.
      1. +1
        19 November 2015 08: 13
        Because then they are expensive to restore.
      2. +2
        19 November 2015 08: 55
        Oil depots and wells will be needed by Syria itself after the destruction / expulsion of the IG. If you bomb the well, then it is very difficult to extinguish it. Also, oil collection and processing points are not built in 5 minutes (if the normal, but not the Bosyak (barrel-fire) scheme).
        1. +12
          19 November 2015 09: 20
          Why shake the air Kiril? As far as I understand, you think that when they are defeated, ISIS will simply retreat from the refineries and oil storage facilities with the words “we used it, now is your turn?” I am sure that when the barmaley retreats, they will rake everything that can break. What is the point of preserving the infrastructure that feeds your enemies? Let's just agree with the theory that this oil feeds the sponsors of all this mess from Syria and Iraq, moreover from both sides of the conflict.
        2. +1
          19 November 2015 19: 05
          It is possible and necessary to bomb. You don’t need to extinguish it, if you beat it with a good landmine, they are stewed in a civilian way. Restore the well is not a problem. The problem is how to restore daily killed ordinary people. Or are they cheaper than ground oil?
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    6. +19
      19 November 2015 06: 35
      They opened a second front, when it became clear that Nazi Germany would collapse soon. They clung to our Victory then and now they are doing the same. Like jackals who sit in the distance and wait for the lion to defeat a strong enemy, and then run away in a swoop to feast, so these ...
      1. +10
        19 November 2015 08: 05
        Quote: Tatar 174
        Like jackals that sit far away

        Yes, they are not jackals, but hyenas, those who, when in a pack, even drive a lion.
    7. +8
      19 November 2015 06: 36
      Maybe marikatos merge ISIS? Unlikely.
      But some kind of presumptuous competitors from bandits covered - it is possible.
      Time will tell.
    8. Riv
      +2
      19 November 2015 06: 43
      This is called: "Who got up first - that and the slippers." Who knows why these fuel trucks caught fire? Maybe themselves. Or maybe the Russians bombed them, or the French. But the Yankees were the first to take a picture ...
      But nobody still touches the oil fields themselves.
    9. +3
      19 November 2015 06: 46
      Damn, I watched a video of the bombing of oil convoys.
      There damn bomb and bomb ...
      And better with shaving guns.
    10. +3
      19 November 2015 06: 59
      Quote: Riv
      This is called: "Who got up first - that and the slippers." Who knows why these fuel trucks caught fire? Maybe themselves. Or maybe the Russians bombed them, or the French. But the Yankees were the first to take a picture ...
      But nobody still touches the oil fields themselves.

      So hot fuel trucks - this is the whole show, designed for the public, the effect of the type of work. And nobody will touch the oil producing infrastructure in principle. The big uncles who stand above Obama are not allowed. They, along the way, have influence on our Supreme Commander-in-Chief. So all that we see are elements of the game.
    11. +2
      19 November 2015 07: 10
      And I was recently told here that the A-10 gun is not needed, but it turns out to work :-D
      1. +9
        19 November 2015 09: 29
        You were led ...
        A-10 is an airplane built around a 7-barreled powerful cannon.
        She is the backbone of this plane.
        1. +2
          19 November 2015 10: 12
          I’m curious if the airplane doesn’t stop recoil during a salvo, in the first tests of the 23 mm guns on the MI-24, the pilots felt a strong repulsive reaction when firing. And when the 87 mm guns were mounted on the Yu-37, even with a short salvo, the attack aircraft lost speed and fell to the ground.
          1. 0
            19 November 2015 10: 32
            Quote: zadorin1974
            .A when installing 87mm guns on the Yu-37, even with a short salvo, the attack aircraft lost speed and fell to the ground.

            well, the "thing" in the anti-tank modifications of the G-1 and G-2 is a clear failure of the Teutonic aviation thought) Although the famous braggart Rudel wrote as many as 12 tanks for himself on the very first day of the Citadel) And according to our data (1 TA Vor.fr.) for the entire Kursk epic anti-tank squadrons only knocked out 7 cars)
          2. +2
            19 November 2015 10: 54
            "even with a short volley, the attack aircraft lost speed and fell to the ground" ///

            It is for this reason that the A-10 from the very beginning
            designed "around the gun", designed the glider so
            so that there are no failures, dangerous vibrations, brakes during salvo.

            The fee for this is a small speed for a jet aircraft:
            500-700 km / h
            1. 0
              19 November 2015 11: 15
              It is not slow because of this, one of the reasons is the location of the engines, so that they cover from MANPADS.
          3. +2
            19 November 2015 11: 14
            No, the recoil force in 2 is less than the engine thrust, but it is braked strongly.
        2. 0
          19 November 2015 11: 19
          Yes, ten years ago I watched a documentary about this attack aircraft. It also claimed that the aircraft was designed "around" a multi-barrel gun.
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        4. 0
          19 November 2015 16: 21
          the designers did their best))) you can’t imagine a more wretched car.
    12. +3
      19 November 2015 07: 12
      The mattresses are engaged in "repetition" ... until Russia poked the KR X-101 with its nose, they did not scratch. The face must be somehow saved.
    13. +5
      19 November 2015 07: 16
      Now fuel trucks will accompany buses with cages for civilians and bearded ... there will be no excuse not to bomb. Borodatomir in burqas can be settled in places of extraction and processing of oil itself ... and also not bombed. NOODLES BECOMES ALL LONG wassat
    14. +10
      19 November 2015 07: 18
      If oil is smuggled into Turkey and its buyers sit there, then the first demand is from the Turks, it is necessary through the UN to introduce economic sanctions against Turkey, a complete ban on its export of goods, a ban on the sale of military equipment to it, etc. Let them restore order first. Nowhere will Isil sell oil and no need to chase fuel trucks in the desert. In general, it’s ridiculous that with an army of half a million people plus the police and the gendarmerie, the Turks cannot take control of 97 km of their borders, what kind of fairy tales the brothers make-up they broadcast to the world.
      1. +3
        19 November 2015 08: 10
        Quote: cobalt
        it is necessary through the UN to introduce economic sanctions against Turkey,

        Explain this to our fans of Turkish resorts, when they realize that they were wrong and refuse to spend their holidays in the Turet region, the budget of Turkey will simply collapse and their functionaries will line up to lick the heels and other "loins" of "our" officials.
        1. +1
          19 November 2015 10: 19
          Quote: V.ic
          refuse to spend their holidays in the tourist region, Turkey’s budget will simply collapse

          Stupidity. The Turkish budget will not collapse if Tag-i-i-il does not go to Antalya.
          1. +1
            19 November 2015 12: 36
            Quote: U-96
            Stupidity. The Turkish budget will not collapse if Tag-i-i-il does not go to Antalya.

            Can’t forget free alcohol? Oh well...
            1. 0
              19 November 2015 12: 46
              Quote: V.ic
              Can’t forget free alcohol? Oh well...

              I did not quite understand why this was a gallant remark, but if you get personal, I was not and I am not going to. I prefer a car in Europe.
      2. +1
        19 November 2015 10: 43
        Quote: cobalt
        If oil is smuggled into Turkey and buyers are sitting there

        There is an article on FT: http://ig.ft.com/sites/2015/isis-oil/
        "ISIS Inside: The Journey of the Oil Barrel"
        curious, even in places and debatable.
    15. +3
      19 November 2015 07: 18
      I wonder where the mattresses found civilians in Iblis state-ve. Probably their offspring ig considered as such.
    16. +3
      19 November 2015 07: 26
      Americans have nowhere to go. Questions are already being heard in the United States, but what have you been doing there for over a year? And Russia has shown how to really fight ISIS. Against this background, you want, you do not want, but something to do is simply necessary.
    17. +5
      19 November 2015 07: 29
      Poor Erdogan ...
      A flow of oil came to him, cheap but bloody ...
      It was he who fooled Russia with the Turkish stream. I thought all this will be forever :)
    18. 0
      19 November 2015 07: 40
      This is called: "Who got up first - that and the slippers." Who knows why these fuel trucks caught fire? Maybe themselves. Or maybe the Russians bombed them, or the French. But the Yankees were the first to take a picture ...

      http://warfiles.ru/show-100464-vks-rf-sterli-s-lica-zemli-ogromnuyu-kolonnu-benz
      ovozov-igil.html
    19. +14
      19 November 2015 07: 45
      yoyoemayo! So these Americans with their tame beards all got that even Stalin was back! belay
      1. +5
        19 November 2015 09: 02
        Judging by the chevrons, Kurdish (bye feel )field commander. We will see.
      2. 0
        19 November 2015 19: 49
        An interesting first photo of Yakubovich similar to Stalin belay And where only do you get them? Is there a second in the original? I would like links to the original. Boarding fakes zadolbali.
        1. 0
          19 November 2015 23: 12
          keep link
          http://rusvesna.su/news/1447886334
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    20. +10
      19 November 2015 07: 47
      They bombed and cried, cried and bombed ...
      1. 0
        19 November 2015 20: 03
        And what's so funny, judging by the profile picture and more? request
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    21. +3
      19 November 2015 07: 51
      Where are the US drones? The goal is clearly larger than a wedding or a funeral procession.
    22. +1
      19 November 2015 07: 53
      To bomb fuel trucks is to spank mosquitoes in a forest.
      It’s easier, I think, to bomb mining stations or at least gas stations.
    23. +7
      19 November 2015 08: 12
      "116 trucks out of 295 were destroyed" - the survivors, as I understand it, turned on the second gear and broke away from the pursuit?
    24. +2
      19 November 2015 08: 21
      Russia and America will never be "friends" no matter how hard they try ... No.
      because + and - are repelled by nature and if even a positive polarity sets in on a planet - then wait for the arrival of another planet or moon - it will attract. Yes
      so we are building ships, missiles and getting ready to hold back their polarity (-) smile
      unless of course the poles change + to - ... then it will be interesting for me to see how suddenly the ripened Americans face the threat of capture and enslavement by the once good Russia. am
    25. +2
      19 November 2015 08: 24
      Analysts wondered: why so far the US has not launched similar attacks against terrorists who profit from the oil trade?

      Long searched for evidence of illegal trade. So far, Putin has not shown them clearly who is doing what. And he gave the command to bomb the oil fields captured by ISIS. Darkening became stupid. And Putin, I think. try not to invite partners to the gathering anymore, citing his aggressiveness. They are bad with Assad. Nasty. They violated the order of planting democracy. The first to understand this were the most inveterate in the seven. He spoiled them a magnificent seven. In a decent society with values, they are not accepted. Only people with test tubes shaken at the UN are accepted there.
    26. +2
      19 November 2015 08: 48
      Yes, the main task of the states is to bomb so that there are bombings, and there is no damage to the oil trade of ISIS-ISIS fulfills their task-
      while the oil areas controlled by ISIS-oil are cheap, the Russian budget is melting
      -All goals achieved.
    27. +1
      19 November 2015 09: 16
      "Officials familiar with the operation said the plan to attack the militant trucks was developed long before the attacks in and around Paris."
      "... the President of the Russian Federation showed pictures from space showing the colossal scale of the oil trade by IS militants."

      So that's where the Americans get intelligence information wink That is why apparently all of their airstrikes and their allies, which they inflicted all this time, accounted for either the excavator or the wedding.
    28. +1
      19 November 2015 09: 24
      To completely stop the illegal sale of ISIS oil, it is enough just to stop buying it. All.
      1. +2
        19 November 2015 09: 33
        Right Bomb buyers))
      2. 0
        19 November 2015 10: 46
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        To completely stop the illegal sale of ISIS oil, it is enough just to stop buying it. All.

        easy.
        and how, in fact, do you propose to do this? To appeal to the conscience of buyers from high stands? Or still
        Quote: Alexander_
        Bomb buyers))

        laughing
        your suggestions?
    29. +7
      19 November 2015 09: 36
      Everyone buys this oil. And municipalities of cities that
      under the control of Assad, and which are under Al-Nusra, and under Islamic
      front. When fuel trucks with oil or gasoline arrive,
      no one is interested in whose control the deposits were:
      IG or Kurds.
      You have to live. Therefore, they did not dare to bomb them for so long.
      1. 0
        19 November 2015 10: 00
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Everyone buys this oil. And municipalities of cities that
        under the control of Assad, and which are under Al-Nusra, and under Islamic
        front.

        absolutely right. Interesting, angry commentators who are sure that Assad fundamentally does not deal with oil traders, they know what he runs the tanks with?
        Quote: voyaka uh
        You have to live. Therefore, they did not dare to bomb them for so long.

        The answer lies on the surface.
      2. +2
        19 November 2015 11: 23
        By the way, there was infa in the media that Israeli companies did not disdain the purchase of Igilov oil. True or fake?
        1. +1
          19 November 2015 11: 29
          Quote: alexej123
          By the way, there was infa in the media that Israeli companies did not disdain the purchase of Igilov oil. True or fake?

          Give a link?
          1. 0
            20 November 2015 11: 32
            Catch http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=2635110
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      4. 0
        19 November 2015 19: 04
        There is such a thing - total war, i.e. war on the complete destruction of the enemy, a war with the strain of all resources. In such a war, money is not the goal. Municipalities, owners of oil tankers and drivers will have to reckon with this.
        1. 0
          19 November 2015 21: 17
          Quote: iouris
          There is such a thing - total war, i.e. war on the complete destruction of the enemy

          for this, Cap, of course, a special thank you. And to Syria, what does this thoughtful comment have to do with Syria? And specifically to oil trading, which is used by everyone without exception - SAR, SSA, Kurds, etc.? Or do you think in Syria some kind of garbage is in use
          I bought gas from ISIS,
          He dug two graves at once!
    30. 0
      19 November 2015 10: 09
      The activity of the participants is growing. The denouement is near. Which one?
      1. 0
        19 November 2015 11: 47
        Quote: vladimirvn
        The activity of the participants is growing. The denouement is near. Which one?



        "... What are the goals of this operation for Russia? The worst option is the division of Syria into three agglomerations: Alavian, including Damascus, Kurdish and Sunni. This, in my (Vladislav SHURYGIN, head of the military section of the Izborsk club.) Opinion, is the worst, What we can get. The best option is to put the most sane people on both sides of the front at the negotiating table and help hold elections in Syria, preserving it as a single state and ensuring our interests there .... "

        More information at http://voprosik.net/eksperty-o-vojne-v-sirii-oktyabr-2015/
        1. 0
          19 November 2015 19: 12
          It depends on what is meant by "denouement". Ukraine took 10-15 years to understand, and then there is BV, where only strength is understood.
        2. 0
          19 November 2015 19: 12
          It depends on what is meant by "denouement". Ukraine took 10-15 years to understand, and then there is BV, where only strength is understood.
      2. 0
        19 November 2015 16: 40
        Semites kaput campaign, on both sides, tired of the Semites and Arab and Israeli)
    31. -1
      19 November 2015 10: 10
      Quote: Redfox3k
      They, along the way, have influence on our Supreme Commander-in-Chief. So all that we see are elements of the game.

      Along the way, it means games, and the Commander-in-Chief, between business with the lamb, is cut into chapapaev. And why is everyone seeing this? Well, if you are at the rate of what, where, when, maybe tell me who will win and what?
    32. 0
      19 November 2015 10: 11
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Islamic
      front.

      Dear, you would have been more careful with the definitions, otherwise you would be offended later, the people’s nerves are not iron.
      1. 0
        19 November 2015 20: 11
        I support. Unarod’s nerves are more rubber than iron. Otherwise, we would not have been there for a long time.
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    33. 0
      19 November 2015 10: 16
      From this and had to start !!! although perhaps they were afraid of inform. attack ...?
    34. +1
      19 November 2015 10: 32
      Colonel Stephen Warren, spokesman for the American coalition in Baghdad, confirmed that A-10 and AC-130 destroyed 116 trucks.


      I am not an economist, but I remember from the institute course: demand creates supply, because someone is buying this oil, and since they have taken up the IG so seriously, is it not easier to track the buyers of this oil and take bells for it. But I’m afraid that the path will lead to countries that are precisely fighting IS: the USA and the European Union
      1. 0
        19 November 2015 10: 49
        Quote: War Builder
        I remember from the university course: demand creates supply

        Demand - sentence: "I gave birth to you, I will kill you" laughing
        Quote: War Builder
        isn’t it easier to track the buyers of this oil

        easier of course. Most of them are in Syria.
    35. -1
      19 November 2015 10: 46
      Vladimir Putin said that terrorists will be surely found, and all accomplices will be held accountable. Panic reigns in Washington.
      1. +1
        19 November 2015 11: 15
        Quote: vladimirvn
        Panic reigns in Washington.

        Why is that?
        1. +2
          19 November 2015 11: 39
          Everyone is afraid of the attack of the Divan troops of Russia) lol
        2. 0
          19 November 2015 11: 53
          They knew that we know what they know. And everyone was "like a fuel truck".
    36. +3
      19 November 2015 11: 54
      “... The Germans in Belarus also called partisans“ terrorists. ”And call them“ partisans ”and you will understand everything. A war with partisans is a very difficult task. What is ISIS in this case? ISIS, I would say, is politically “quantum phenomenon.” One of the “fathers” of ISIS is the Iraqi intelligence services, primarily Mukhabarat Fesbiyat, the party intelligence and, at the same time, the core and center of the Iraqi intelligence services. These people know very well what to do and how to do, and have built an effective structure for this.
      This is where the main problem arises in any war with the partisans, this is the main question: "In the territory in which you are fighting, does the local population support the partisans or not?" So that you have no illusions about this, sociological surveys of the population of most of the Arab Sunni countries show that the population supports the goals and objectives declared by ISIS. From our point of view, ISIS are terrorists, and from their point of view, they are fighters for justice. And "justice" is the highest value in Islam. And immediately, the second aspect: what ISIS is fighting for is the restoration of the historical Arab identity. Since most of the modern countries that we see on the map today - Libya, Tunisia, other Arab countries - they were not in history. But there was an eternal Arab dream of a united Arab state, which ISIS is now realizing. In Saudi Arabia, according to polls, 92% of the population supports ISIS. Al Jazeera polls show that 67% of the population in Qatar supports ISIS. This must be taken into account and said why this is happening. This as a whole constitutes the first moment - we do not know with whom we are fighting ... "

      More information at http://voprosik.net/eksperty-o-vojne-v-sirii-oktyabr-2015/
    37. 0
      19 November 2015 11: 57
      Well, naturally, nobody touches the prey. Under the pretext of expensive recovery. Although to assume that in the event of a retreat, the militants will leave everything intact and at least naive. So you need to peck while they are under the control of ISIS. And those will either have to retreat from the region or rebuild at their own expense, which will lead to at least a temporary suspension of production and sale of petroleum products.
    38. 0
      19 November 2015 12: 06
      Do you know where the ears grow from?
      Quote: U-96
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Panic reigns in Washington.

      Why is that?
      1. +2
        19 November 2015 12: 33
        Quote: vladimirvn
        Do you know where the ears grow from?

        Well..?
        so-so imagine a panic in Congress:
        ? laughing
    39. 0
      19 November 2015 12: 36
      I can rephrase this news as follows:

      Look how good we are! We destroyed xxx fuel trucks! We created them (ISIS) to rise in the eyes of the world, when they are destroyed!

      Only now "gangrene" is growing, and amputation is inevitable!
    40. 0
      19 November 2015 13: 26
      For the destroyed oil tankers - Obama apologized through McCain! He promised to compensate with new ones and white "tayots" as a prize. And now crude oil in Turkey (by order of Fashington) will be taken from Igil for 2 dollars more! American Peremoga! laughing
    41. 0
      19 November 2015 13: 51
      And who said that the Americans did it, not our planes !? Because the photo was sent by the IGilovites to America, and not to Russia!?
    42. +1
      19 November 2015 15: 41
      Quote: marinier
      Chaos

      Yes, you are here on your board. soldier
    43. 0
      19 November 2015 22: 39
      The Middle East will not leave mattresses. They need full control over the extraction and distribution of energy resources. Iran, Libya, Iraq, Syria are everywhere in full swing, therefore, they change tactics, and the strategy remains long-term. This is the essence of the states. To believe them, do not respect yourself.
    44. 0
      20 November 2015 03: 54
      .........................
    45. 0
      20 November 2015 09: 15
      Pancake! I compared the cards "at the beginning of the operation" and "on the 19th". Well the difference isn't obvious. It's a shame somehow .. We seem to win like

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