Turkey without American assistance is not able to control its borders? ..

Information Agency Rider reports that Turkey and the United States are starting a joint military operation on the border with Syria. The news agency refers to the statement of the head of American diplomacy, John Kerry. He notes that almost the entire border line with the Syrian Arab Republic is under Turkish control, but there is no control over the 98-kilometer stretch.

John Kerry:

We are starting an operation with Turkey in order to take control of the remaining 98 kilometers of the border with Syria.

Earlier, the Turkish authorities spoke about conducting a counter-terrorist operation against the militants of the so-called "Islamic State". At the same time, official Ankara is already conducting a military operation against representatives of the Kurdish militia, which itself is actively opposed by ISIL.

It should also be mentioned that the United States is engaged in supporting the Kurds, declaring that they are the ones who are dumped in the northern provinces of Syria weapon, as they are the force that is able to withstand the terrorists of the IG.

Considering all these nuances, the question arises: by what principles will the joint military operation of Washington and Ankara be conducted on the Turkish-Syrian borders, and does this mean that the Turkish army is so weak that it is no longer able to control the borders of its own state? ..

Comments

[cniza]

Oh, they’re being cunning, you can’t let the United States go there, it will all be against us, Erdogan think it over.

[Saratovets]

"Exceptional" have been playing there since the 50s

[Vend]

Well, you somehow need to save ISIS to mattresses. Here is across the Turkish border, pressing the Turkish vassals to the foot.

[Baikonur]

No, just Americans are kind and always help everyone! Honestly, disinterestedly!
That Turkey needs help, but they are already right there!
And ISIS is being helped by both Kurds and others who need help!

[self-propelled]

Quote: Wend

Well, you somehow need to save ISIS to mattresses. Here is across the Turkish border, pressing the Turkish vassals to the foot.

there is no need to argue here. all these "restless nights" (last October and May-July this year) in Turkey were not for nothing. there was a message to Erdogan. and he accepted this promise. now waiting for "friendly forces" with a loaf (oops, I beg your pardon, lavash ) to visit. I think the majority of people on this site are sane, and they perfectly understand that the riots in Turkey, the terrorist attacks in France ... etc. links of one chain. and you don't need to have "seven spans in your forehead" to understand where these links are forged ...

[kodxnumx]

Again, these Yankees are muddying something, and the Turks are also looking stupid themselves!

[Sterlya]

Turks, of course, can guard their borders.
Just in the light of recent events, they have a situation. they cannot keep their words in front of the Iblises, because they will most likely receive a hat.
Here, like the Americans all, they came to ruined the agreement. They can’t drive them away.
Erdogan, too, of course, when all of Russia crushed, tried, played his game .. Slightly changed, and he was

[marinier]

In my opinion, you are right! USA, they can be used as
the pretext 4 would increase its presence.
Moreover, infa passed, Turkey and Russia finally came to
understanding of the Turkish stream.
And this is a serial blow to the interests of amers, and threatens
the reintegration of Turkey into the sphere of influence of RUSSIA.

[Sid.74]

Rumors say that Putin dumped a bunch of dirt on amerikosy, shavers, Germans and
Turks during G-20. There it was painted who accompanied the deals on igilovskoy oil, who transported, who bought, etc. And this information for three years.
And Putin said today that our French sailors should work as allies. To be honest, it sounded strange.

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In addition, Tundra will determine the launches and trajectories of not only ballistic missiles, but also other missiles, for example, launched from submarines.
In the coming 2-3, it is planned to increase the grouping to 10 devices.

[79807420129]

Erdogan seems to be unable to control anything except his bladder.

[STALK1974]

And he will not be controlled soon!

[vell.65]

If so, then in the territory of Syria controlled by the Kurds, a zone controlled by the USA will be created. I think this will be the opposition. If only they agree with the Kurds on both sides of the Kurdish border, they want to create an independent state.

[Tor5]

This is not a double, but a triple or quarter game ....

[Baloo]

Erdogan most of all needs to destroy Syria as a state. After the Second World War, the Turks illegally annexed part of Syria, now they set their sights on oil and gas, grabbed fatter to rob others and control pipelines on a larger territory .. The Macington macaques do not hesitate to predict Assad's removal from power for several weeks. Most likely, this plan provides for its physical elimination. We need to think how to strengthen its protection and the protection of the family by our guys.
Conceptually, we are witnesses of an attempt by the geyropa, Turkey, the Saudis and the Macington macaques to realize the next colonial division of the region. Moreover, they openly talk about the world order as the highest value. But these Russians do not give, they interfere.
I see what is happening from my sofa.

[Baloo]

Erdogan most of all needs to destroy Syria as a state. After the Second World War, the Turks illegally annexed part of Syria, now they set their sights on oil and gas, grabbed fatter to rob others and control pipelines on a larger territory .. The Macington macaques do not hesitate to predict Assad's removal from power for several weeks. Most likely, this plan provides for its physical elimination. We need to think how to strengthen its protection and the protection of the family by our guys.
Conceptually, we are witnesses of an attempt by the geyropa, Turkey, the Saudis and the Macington macaques to realize the next colonial division of the region. Moreover, they openly talk about the world order as the highest value. But these Russians do not give, they interfere.
I see what is happening from my sofa.

[OlegLex]

Not any deceit, everything is aimed at preventing the Syrian army from regaining control of the Turkish border, and in this regard, the Americans and the Turks are united as Siamese twins

[78bor1973]

Erdogan himself is to blame for this, at first he planted the whole general staff in prisons, and now Turkey is not able to control its borders!

[meriem1]

Quote: cniza

Oh, they’re being cunning, you can’t let the United States go there, it will all be against us, Erdogan think it over.

Erdogan needs oil cheap. All fuss is exactly that. They want to relieve themselves of responsibility. Putin is not in vain about 51 st. UN loudly said !!! And in Qatar, I think the same I heard !!!

[Mihalich17]

But the Turks themselves already do not control anything ?!
What nonsense!

[avt]

Quote: Mihalich17

But the Turks themselves already do not control anything ?!
What nonsense!

Why nonsense then? This is a normal operation. I would call it "Zagradotryad", many spirits shaving off their beards rushed to Turkey - it's one thing to cut boski unarmed and rape women, another thing to keep the line under "Buratino" and Su, here's Alla! I went to a beer bar - they immediately forgot who and why and what they were yelling about before.

[Alexey Boukin]

Americans everywhere have their own interest, precisely their own, and not their common. On the Turkish border, they will filter out their fish in troubled waters.

[sannych]

What philanthropists and humanists are these USA! Help Turkey completely free!
A country located in another part of the world helps another country control its border. It’s somehow abnormal. I wonder what would be the reaction of the United States if ours would similarly help Mexico?

[cniza]

Quote: sannych

What philanthropists and humanists are these USA! Help Turkey completely free!
A country located in another part of the world helps another country control its border. It’s somehow abnormal. I wonder what would be the reaction of the United States if ours would similarly help Mexico?

This is the whole paradox, the Turkish army is one of the strongest in NATO, I think after the United States. This Erdogan is something muddied well, not without the help of the United States.

[Altona]

Quote: cniza

This is the whole paradox, the Turkish army is one of the strongest in NATO, I think after the United States.

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And 100 (!!!) km of the border is not controlled by anything, not even a drone ... Afiget what expanse for all kinds of smugglers and terrorists ...

[cniza]

Quote: Altona

Quote: cniza

This is the whole paradox, the Turkish army is one of the strongest in NATO, I think after the United States.

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And 100 (!!!) km of the border is not controlled by anything, not even a drone ... Afiget what expanse for all kinds of smugglers and terrorists ...

Weapons, supplies, evacuation of their fosterlings, etc.

[kil 31]

Let's see what happens at the price of gasoline. Now Turkey in third place after Norway and Italy in terms of the high cost of gasoline 95 costs 98 rubles. If it starts to cost 150 r, then Amers blocked ISIS oil. Doubts gnaw me.

[U-96]

Quote: keel 31

Let's see what happens at the price of gasoline. Turkey is now in third place

I doubt about the price of gasoline) In fact, ISIS is filled with traders of all stripes, including, of course, Turkish. The fact that the Asadites are also among the customers, I think, is not in doubt. For me, there is nothing unnatural (given the Middle Eastern specifics) in this. Kerry just cunning as usual, focusing on oil.

[yuriy55]

What would be the reaction of the United States if ours likewise helped Mexico?

Yes, the same as in 1962, when ours deployed missiles in Cuba in response to the deployment of medium-range missiles by the Americans in Turkey.

In fact, in sly Turkey there are US military bases:
http://biggun.at.ua/publ/bazy_nato/voennye_bazy_ssha_i_nato_v_turcii/37-1-0-109

It is necessary to stop the tourist pilgrimage to Turkey, maybe they will scratch their "turnips". After all, the Yankees do not go to Turkey to rest ...

[U-96]

Quote: yuriy55

We must stop the tourist pilgrimage to Turkey,

Firstly, there are no alternatives for domestic olinklushers like "Tagi-i-i-il .." yet.
secondly, it is not necessary to present the budget of Turkey exclusively oriented to the tourism industry. Well-fed suckers from Chelyabinsk with a beer belly, believe me, this is not the first article in the Turkish budget.
thirdly, IMHO, Erdi needs the notorious "red line". He slightly does not understand that with his prostitution, to put it mildly, he embarrasses all his partners (by the way, including us). But this, sorry, is not the Vienna Congress of 1815, where they were not invited. Two hundred, their mother, years have passed ...

[INF]

And there is a corridor ...

[Genur]

That's really, "God forgive me." Yours and ours. (

[smart Fox]

These are probably guarding !!! Now ISIS weapons will be taken openly, through checkpoints. PMCs will become tourists. And you don’t have to hide or hide anything. The border is locked. Obama guarantees!

[roskot]

Statesmen they are. Give them to them they are ready to control the borders of the whole earth.

[Anisim1977]

It is not harmful for Turkey to want - but since the strategists have already arrived, we will decide. Over Syria is now the "Sky of the Slavs" - but on earth, they themselves will cope.
We won’t let Turkey use the equipment in particular - and the machine is automatic, the Kurds themselves will tear them like hamsters.

[roskot]

But what about the note to us for the fact that our fighter violated the border with Turkey.

[Rossiyanin]

Trust the wallet to the thief.

[viktor561]

Entrusting the US border is the same as entrusting the fox to guard the chicken coop - that there are no UN peacekeeping forces

[iliitchitch]

Quote: sly fox

These are probably guarding !!! Now ISIS weapons will be taken openly, through checkpoints. PMCs will become tourists. And you don’t have to hide or hide anything. The border is locked. Obama guarantees!

Therefore, I believe that we can’t do without a ground operation. Close the fuck you need that gate from Syria, they themselves can not.

[semuil]

They will guard the looted oil.

[Egor123]

At the same time, official Ankara is already conducting a military operation against representatives of the Kurdish militia, which itself is actively opposing ISIS.

And why did the Kurds dislike them so much that they equate them with ISIS? We could postpone the issue with the Kurds for later, but for now act together with them against ISIS.

[individual]

Turkey requires easy money from the states and provokes the EU, the USA!

[afrikanez]

The remaining 98 kilometers of the Turkish border will be enough to transport the militants. Americans, as always, in their repertoire.

[skaramaks27]

Americans rented 98 km of the state border from the Turks! Nonsense! who remembers the bearded anecdote from the 90s? ... "I will rent ONE METER of the state border!" And here it is 98 km.
IMHO: They are preparing a corridor, they will save the elect, it is likely that the escape routes were agreed.

[Balagan]

Funny these Turks. But they immediately see that our plane flew into the territory with the edge of the wing. Come, the mattresses also suggested that they themselves would have no idea.

[win]

Turks are also looking stupid themselves

The British scientist has identified the most cunning nation.
As a result of the work, the scientist David Hugh-Jones stated that the Chinese and Indians are the most prone to deception and dishonest behavior in conditions where this can bring financial benefits. In a separate experiment, the number of deceptions was in the lead. Turks.

[BULLIT]

Who with whom and who against whom! ??? X ... n wake up !!! Surely we muddied such a mess!

[sailor roman]

Wikipedia says that the Turkish peacetime forces are considered the second strongest in the NATO bloc, after the US ground forces. The Turkish Armed Forces, not including reservists, are 410 (as of 500).
Turkey receives oil and looted values ​​from ISIS, freely passes militants across its borders, there are numerous camps of opponents of Syria on its territory, but it supplies them with weapons and ammunition, how many of them go to ISIS, obviously not a few.
I believe that Erdogan, accepting "help" from the United States, from the United States, first of all, strive to contain the Syrian Armed Forces, and not to guard his border ..

[ZYRYANIN]

Fabulous PUSH-PUSH! One for the Kurds, the other against will together control the border with them ??? "Allies", your progenitor !!!

[GDV]

They will clean up after themselves, Plan B, whom to Turkey whom to Qatar to Saudi Arabia, or maybe stupidly to all in Afghanistan.

[Mountain shooter]

An open section of the Turkish border - what’s this? Turks themselves are not able to close it? Theater of the absurd.

[U-96]

nonsense. The States will still play on the Kurdish problem. Erdi doesn't even understand his puppetry. Old Nietzsche is right, as usual, with his passive-asset. However, the Turks must be given their due - they play their card well, yeah.

[Shadowcat]

Turkey does not roll the border? America help?
Who believes this - hehe five times.

Everything is much simpler and disgusting. Each of the political players on a high board of the world plays his pieces and cards. It’s ridiculous to say - think of some personalities on foreign loans? You are mistaken. On the trade of black blood. And here it is worth noting the ferry points ... Even filling stations on the coast are needed not just in the form of a pipe, but in the form of large complexes. But to take the coast normally did not work ... Where to put the question becomes open ... if there were no proposals ...
Now we get the likeness of Afghanistan in the Soviet years. Honestly, I am very surprised wai the USSR did not send everyone to ahem, hedgehogs, and more than once ... poking Pakistan into atoms. Now a similar situation may happen - It seems to be a peaceful state of Syria, but where the gangs penetrate (and we know that where the Yankees are gangs and terror) from the Turkish border.
However, I think that Vladimir Vladimirovich is far smarter than me and this is envisioned.

Who understood the hints that well done, who did not understand, turn your nose to the wind of news.

[v.yegorov]

Well, exactly the same according to the fabulist Krylov - a swan, cancer and pike, and, in addition,
cancer with a pike is not averse to devour each other. It will be interesting to look at the result.

[Oleg 91]

It turns out interesting: the USA supports the Kurds - Turkey bombes the Kurds - the USA guards the borders of Turkey while they bomb the Kurds.

[stayer]

Amers are still provocateurs and lovers of rowing heat with the wrong hands. Wang. At the last moment, when only a few weeks remain before the ISIS defeat, they will get in from Turkey and supposedly take part in the defeat of ISIS. And after 50 years (if they are alive by then), in history textbooks will be considered the most important in victory in the Middle East. They brought peace to the land of Syria and Iraq.

[iouris]

Turkey and the United States are taking "their" terrorists under their protection.

[cniza]

Quote: iouris

Turkey and the United States are taking "their" terrorists under their protection.

Very justly, and for this, the United States is eager to help Turkey control the border.

[Mikhail Krapivin]

And again, another crap is happening in the world, and again because of this crap American ears stick out.

[1goose3]

Erdogan, trying to revive the Great Ottoman Empire, is unable to close less than a hundred kilometers of the border with Syria? Erdogan, for the idea of ​​a great empire, went to the United States! Ha ha ha, and will he be forgiven for ideological ones? Will they be forgiven for making them "gay" at once?

[Thunderbolt]

there is no control on the 98-kilometer stretch.

The invitation of the Americans is a disguise of some kind of subtle military-political game between Ankara and Washington! If we would like to really close the 98 km section of the border, we would invite Senya. He would have given them such a VAL --- just throw in "pennies" .P.S. Or maybe the United States needs to have a foothold and ready-made forces for rapid deployment and conduct of operations not at the level of ranger platoons, but for example a division-corps? Everything is possible. If Assad will "go" and hisThe Syrians will begin to squeeze the ISIS and clear the territory, then the United States can begin a large-scale ground operation under the pretext of finally "finishing off" ISIS. The reason for this could be a series of terrorist attacks in the American land (for example, the Paris Massacre) .. and everything can be taken over. The experience of Iraqi occupation of them the army has t.ch. may try to bite off his part of the Syrian pie, or even swallow the whole pie. IS will squeeze out on Assad and support for the bearded will be provided by the Gulf countries (moving away from the United States). And then the main task will be squeezing the Russians out of the region. Blockade of the Caspian air corridor and other Bosphorus quite possible in the event of an acute escalation, and then Assad and ours will have a hard time.

[uralex]

Russian tourists should already think about the safety of leisure in Turkey ...

[cap]

Quote: vell.65

vell.65 RU Yesterday, 19:30 ↑

If so, then in the territory of Syria controlled by the Kurds, a zone controlled by the USA will be created. I think this will be the opposition. If only they agree with the Kurds on both sides of the Kurdish border, they want to create an independent state.

Do not touch the valves on the pipes with the label NAM.
The Turks will remain to guard the desert from saigas.

[dchegrinec]

America, as always, needs to stick its snout everywhere! If there isn’t anyone, it’s gone on it. They’ve got used to it.

[nivander]

or what a hole 98km

[Pasha]

Turkey without American help unable to control its borders?
What a nightmare.
First, on the Syrian and then to the Russian border, they will start together with the Sha.

[_GSVG_]

And yet, some of the official Ankara offered to legitimize ISIS, well, allegedly "they already exist and occupy a certain territory, we must recognize them."
I think partly because of this, our VKS began to plow their territory with tripled force, and the article on defense against aggression came in handy, along with the decision to acknowledge the catastrophe with our plane - a terrorist attack. So, Qatar will not have a chance to stretch the gas pipeline to Turkey.