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The Armed Forces of Ukraine are armed with rocket launchers mounted on armored tractors.

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The Ukrainian army receives installations for launching unguided aviation missiles. The base for them is the combat vehicles of the Strela-10 military air defense complex: instead of anti-aircraft missiles, light armored tractors are equipped with aviation units with S-8 unguided missiles. Messenger of Mordovia.


The Armed Forces of Ukraine are armed with rocket launchers mounted on armored tractors.


On each machine, an 2 unit is mounted, capable of releasing 40 NAR. The weight of one empty block - 150kg, equipped - 450 kg.

“The mass of one 80-mm HAP, depending on the modification, ranges from 11,3 to 15,2 kg. Missiles can have different warheads: cumulative fragmentation, with two thousand "arrows" for hitting manpower, volume-detonating, concrete-breaking, lighting, etc. The target range is about 2 km. At the maximum distance - scattering about 6 meters from the aiming point, "- said the publication.

Ukrainian experts are not pioneers in this matter. According to Vestnik, “the first experiments were carried out in Afghanistan, then Tanks, Armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles with established NAR could be seen in Transnistria, Nagorno-Karabakh and Abkhazia. ”

The author, referring to the experts, believes that “the installation of NAR units on the former Strela-10 complexes is a forced measure, the anti-aircraft missiles have long expired warranty periods, and the Ukrainians also have problems with aircraft carriers of these units one. "



The disadvantages of the "new" complexes, according to the publication, are "weak booking of the tractor and the short range of the C-8 missiles, which ultimately will inevitably lead to losses in equipment and personnel."
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  1. Finches
    Finches 17 November 2015 15: 09
    +26
    To the message that the Armed Forces are armed, you need to answer - the videoconferencing registers new coordinates of the targets ... laughing
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 17 November 2015 15: 12
      +2
      [quote = Zyablitsev] To the message that the Armed Forces are arming, you need to answer - the videoconferencing registers the new coordinates of the targets ... laughing[/ quote this is unlikely ...
      1. Darkmor
        Darkmor 17 November 2015 15: 25
        +47
        Apparently, everything is bad on the land of the great ones.
        Ours in Afghanistan used this trick out of necessity - they were on foreign territory, ambushed, and often could not count on help - that’s how they strengthened.
        And here, a regular army, in its own land, with access to its warehouses and factories, to aviation ... and welds cassettes with nurses onto a tractor from an air defense system.
        If you, dill idiots, are not able to produce ammunition in your army, then what are you even able to do? Although the lard has not yet forgotten how to salt?
        What the fuck is Europe ... you are not even white people by the standards of Africa.
        1. DanSabaka
          DanSabaka 17 November 2015 15: 59
          +7
          so they themselves explained everything .... there are aviation weapons in the warehouses, but planes cannot fly (expensive and afraid of pilots) .... well, about the prodigies you need to shout with great help ....
          here they are sculpting ...
          1. hrych
            hrych 17 November 2015 16: 32
            +20
            I am standing on the grass shod with skis - either the skis do not go, or I am the mayor of Kiev ...
          2. arane
            arane 17 November 2015 16: 51
            +6
            Quote: DanSabaka
            so they themselves explained everything .... there are aviation weapons in the warehouses, but planes cannot fly (expensive and afraid of pilots) .... well, about the prodigies you need to shout with great help ....
            here they are sculpting ...


            They still have a lot of bombs in stockpiles.
            Soon we will see the catapults at the forefront!
            1. hjcuhfybwf
              hjcuhfybwf 18 November 2015 12: 38
              0
              At one point, the Euro Gabonet was actively pushing this idea of ​​the type in ammunition depots in warehouses and the NURSs were up to the asshole. Type, in his idea, had earlier started using lighting bombs as false targets. What does the video of that time really have had moments of dumping of an incomprehensible smoking fume with parachutes from cargo aircraft.
        2. inkass_98
          inkass_98 17 November 2015 17: 00
          +4
          Quote: Darkmor
          Ours in Afghanistan used this trick as needed.

          The same bells and whistles were used in Abkhazia in the early 90s, and also not because of a good life, and they also put them on boats. By the way, as far as I remember, it was from this installation that the Tu-154 was planted, which was carrying a "support group" from Lviv. Then about 80 UNA-UNSO fighters did not reach their destination.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 17 November 2015 17: 59
            +3
            Quote: inkass_98
            Quote: Darkmor
            Ours in Afghanistan used this trick as needed.

            The same bells and whistles were used in Abkhazia in the early 90s, and also not because of a good life, and they also put them on boats. By the way, as far as I remember, it was from this installation that the Tu-154 was planted, which was carrying a "support group" from Lviv. Then about 80 UNA-UNSO fighters did not reach their destination.


            Have you also been to those parts? I confirm and put them on it only on the "motorcycle" but also welded to the BRDM tower. for a long time they hunted for such a shaitan arboy laughing
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 17 November 2015 19: 39
              0
              Quote: vorobey
              Quote: inkass_98
              Quote: Darkmor
              Ours in Afghanistan used this trick as needed.

              The same bells and whistles were used in Abkhazia in the early 90s, and also not because of a good life, and they also put them on boats. By the way, as far as I remember, it was from this installation that the Tu-154 was planted, which was carrying a "support group" from Lviv. Then about 80 UNA-UNSO fighters did not reach their destination.


              Have you also been to those parts? I confirm and put them on it only on the "motorcycle" but also welded to the BRDM tower. for a long time they hunted for such a shaitan arboy laughing

              There were such samples
              The "main" weapon of the Abkhazian Griffins is the B8M1 block of guns from the downed Georgian Su-25 attack aircraft. There is information that other aviation units of B8M1 guns from downed Georgian attack aircraft were also used as weapons by the Abkhaz side. According to other information, all blocks B-8 and UB-32-57 were purchased in Gudauta from the Russians.
          2. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 17 November 2015 19: 43
            0
            Yuri -a can be more detailed, I have not heard about this story.
      2. Kostyar
        Kostyar 17 November 2015 15: 50
        +3
        Chepushili ....., pah!
    2. Wiruz
      Wiruz 17 November 2015 15: 13
      +12
      VO, working late wink
      Personally, I laughed a couple of these pictures a couple of days ago laughing
      1. REDBLUE
        REDBLUE 17 November 2015 15: 44
        +3
        Ukrainians will destroy themselves. Here they shoot and no more dill in the ATO zone
        1. subbtin.725
          subbtin.725 17 November 2015 16: 02
          +4
          which in the end will inevitably lead to losses in technology and personnel. ”

          Russian proverb = GOAL At the fiction of the cunning. =
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 17 November 2015 17: 41
            +11
            Well, this option is more like ... "the owner is in the house" laughing
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 17 November 2015 18: 00
        +3
        Quote: Wiruz
        VO, working late wink
        Personally, I laughed a couple of these pictures a couple of days ago laughing


        when such a fool begins to naughty, honestly, no laughing matter ... laughing
    3. Tor5
      Tor5 17 November 2015 15: 47
      +2
      Some kind of monster turned out ...
    4. Vladimir71
      Vladimir71 17 November 2015 16: 06
      +1
      It is high time to thin out the ranks of VSU and, ideally, to destroy weeds in a place with roots.
    5. Voha_krim
      Voha_krim 17 November 2015 19: 41
      +1
      The Ukrainian military every day more and more resembles the radical Islamists fighting in the Middle East. The security forces took advantage of the combat experience of the terrorists and screwed on unarmoured rockets (NURS) shot from helicopters on armored vehicles. The militias report that the self-made installation was already applied in practice, firing at the village of Staromikhailovka near Donetsk.
      Experts warn that the NURS cannot be aimed at the target, so they are used in shelling areas. And this threatens the life and health of civilians. The militias call it the shame of the Ukrainian army. And all because the APU is completely impoverished, according to reports, there is a big deficit in everything - in fuel, ammunition, spare parts, medicines, clothes. Moreover, in the ranks of the Ukrainian troops there are sorely lacking officers and people with combat experience.
  2. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 17 November 2015 15: 09
    +30
    Classic jihad mobile. In normal countries, there are multiple launch rocket systems for this.
    1. DanSabaka
      DanSabaka 17 November 2015 15: 10
      +3
      ce - help!
      1. PQ-18
        PQ-18 17 November 2015 15: 57
        +7
        ce - help!

        ni, all ... CHEBURESHKA ! belay
    2. ksv1973
      ksv1973 17 November 2015 15: 11
      +10
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Classic jihad mobile. In normal countries, there are multiple launch rocket systems for this.

      So then in normal ...
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    4. sever.56
      sever.56 17 November 2015 15: 17
      +10
      http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/989/mnde571.jpg
      1. Rader
        Rader 17 November 2015 15: 48
        +4
        Quote: sever.56
        http://topwar.ru/uploads/images/2015/989/mnde571.jpg

        Don't you find the tour dragged on? wink
    5. avt
      avt 17 November 2015 15: 28
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      In normal countries, there are multiple launch rocket systems for this.

      Yes . This ersatz system from the Soviet military air defense is however an indicator.
      The author, referring to the experts, believes that “the installation of NAR units on the former Strela-10 complexes is a forced measure, the anti-aircraft missiles have long expired warranty periods, and the Ukrainians also have problems with aircraft carriers of these units one. "
      I do not agree, such ersatzians do not from excess and expiration of storage periods, but from the absence of normal fire extinguishers to army staff vehicles. Great-Ukry can dig ditches, the genetic memory of the newly-discovered fact of digging the Black Sea, but they don’t do the RS, and the reserve from the USSR remained in Transnistria. They would be happy to shoot at least by delay, but where to get it.
    6. Homo
      Homo 17 November 2015 15: 46
      +5
      Quote: Vladimirets
      Classic jihad mobile.

      The classic unit of the banana republic!
      1. MT266
        MT266 17 November 2015 16: 16
        +1
        Bandera mobile short-range as if their not fried
  3. Trailer
    Trailer 17 November 2015 15: 09
    +1
    It’s not such suspensions that were previously hung on Ukrainian helicopters and fighter jets; they weren’t almost completely exhausted for 1,5 of the year?
  4. ArcanAG
    ArcanAG 17 November 2015 15: 10
    +3
    And how to aim there?
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 17 November 2015 15: 14
      +20
      And how to aim there?
      Plus- minus a tram stop is the entire aiming system.
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    3. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 17 November 2015 15: 19
      +3
      Yes, on a finger Arkady. This tachanka all the same only on the squares will be hammering. Ours in Afghanistan put the Nursiks on bettors. In Chechnya, the Serpent Gorynychi was used for other purposes (destroying pillboxes and knocking militants out of cellars and burrows). days, but by examples.
      1. gladcu2
        gladcu2 17 November 2015 15: 31
        +1
        zadorin

        This system for suppressing machine-gun and shooting points direct fire at a distance of visual contact. From 300 to 1 km. Since the tip is direct, it is easy to damage it with return fire.

        Most likely, that are amateur ideas. "Chim would a dytyna ne bavyla, anyhow, would not cry"

        Ukrainian. the army is trying to take something in order to maintain discipline. Most likely all this mujin, ATO has already stopped.
    4. cniza
      cniza 17 November 2015 15: 36
      +3
      Quote: ArcanAG
      And how to aim there?



      It looks like adjusted for the wind.
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  5. ksv1973
    ksv1973 17 November 2015 15: 10
    0
    Goal for fiction is cunning! laughing
  6. Altona
    Altona 17 November 2015 15: 11
    +4
    A sample of military sickness? Homebrew MLRS or an analogue of the Paladdin self-propelled guns? Apparently the engineers from ISIS drove up ...
    1. rf xnumx
      rf xnumx 17 November 2015 15: 25
      +7
      Quote: Altona
      Apparently the engineers from ISIS arrived ...
      The principle of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is cheaper and for free, soon they will reach it
      1. paxil
        paxil 17 November 2015 15: 41
        +4
        I laughed for a long time damn it is the same hefty ignition wassat immediately childhood remembered how we also indulged in such garbage only there the sizes were much smaller laughing. Bearded stupid people, well, like children from this garbage, it’s impossible to take aim + -100 meters garbage.
        1. paxil
          paxil 17 November 2015 15: 44
          +1
          Quote: paxil
          Bearded stupid people

          In general, I wrote to D.E.B.I.L.Yeah, well, that’s how it goes. laughing
      2. ksv1973
        ksv1973 17 November 2015 21: 55
        +1
        Quote: treble 72019
        Quote: Altona
        Apparently the engineers from ISIS arrived ...
        The principle of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is cheaper and for free, soon they will reach it

        The main thing in time to warn his wife Alla that he went to the bar.
        You look, sometimes, and you are amazed - where did they get so many wives by the name of Alla and where did they get so many bars from? Well, it seems like alcohol is not kosher for them ... But they’re striving for a bar for any reason ...
        Drunks, damn it ... drinks
      3. Sartorius
        Sartorius 18 November 2015 11: 10
        0
        Reptiles again use chemical weapons, I saw how they put a skein of footcloths there.
  7. paxil
    paxil 17 November 2015 15: 12
    +5
    The jihad mobile in the kholatsky version is unified. wassat
    1. Rader
      Rader 17 November 2015 16: 00
      +9
      Even they take an example from Libya, and not from Europe ...
      We are waiting for something of a kind ...

      laughing
      1. MT266
        MT266 17 November 2015 16: 19
        0
        oh and laughed heartily !!! and returns will not torture woe-tankers?
        1. mvg
          mvg 17 November 2015 17: 07
          +5
          There is no return (in the sense of small), there is a smooth acceleration. But if the rocket doesn’t get off the rails, there is a chance to fly off with it and the tank. Have you ever seen a flying tank? wink
  8. novobranets
    novobranets 17 November 2015 15: 22
    +21
    Progress however. It used to be thinner.
    1. Altona
      Altona 17 November 2015 15: 37
      +3
      Quote: novobranets
      Progress however. It used to be thinner.

      -------------------
      You have an analogue of "Katyusha" or "Grad" in your photo, and here you have a self-propelled artillery Ukrainian installation, in an armored corps, which means an analogue of "Paladin", tse Europe ... laughing
    2. Sartorius
      Sartorius 17 November 2015 16: 56
      +3
      I wonder what will happen to LUAZ after a shot? For rent there are two options:
      1) Turns over.
      2) It will burn.
      And a compromise option:
      Turns over and then burns.
    3. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 17 November 2015 17: 46
      +3
      You don’t understand anything in such a technique ... the most important thing is to apply camouflage correctly ... and then ... oops! fellow
    4. Wolverine
      Wolverine 17 November 2015 21: 55
      0
      Quote: novobranets
      Progress however. It used to be thinner.


      Khokhlibins what to take from them ... wassat
  9. Signaller
    Signaller 17 November 2015 15: 22
    +1
    When you start this device, you can have a sea of ​​your corpses. Type-out of warranty or shelf life ..... This is a lot said. You can easily fly into the air. Well, they are Ukrainians, guys UX. We’ll go to the forefathers as well.
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 17 November 2015 15: 47
      +3
      Quote: Signaller
      When you start this device, you can have a sea of ​​your corpses. Type-out of warranty or shelf life ..... This is a lot said. You can easily fly into the air. Well, they are Ukrainians, guys UX. We’ll go to the forefathers as well.
      a crew of 2-3 people, and a volley can be made remotely, from shelter. no matter how funny this homemade product looks, do not forget
      On each machine, an 2 unit is mounted, capable of releasing 40 NAR. The weight of one empty block - 150kg, equipped - 450 kg.
      those. each block contains 300 kg. ammunition, together 600 kg. Yes, this car is not very accurate and will not hit a specific fighter. only Ukrainians will use them for area goals - i.e. villages, villages and cities, but they cannot escape from under the blow.
      1. sabakina
        sabakina 17 November 2015 16: 30
        +4
        Quote: Signaller
        When you start this device, you can have a sea of ​​your corpses. Type-out of warranty or shelf life ..... This is a lot said. You can easily fly into the air. Well, they are Ukrainians, guys UX. We’ll go to the forefathers as well.

        By the way, I wonder how long NURs have a shelf life? ....
  10. vladimirw
    vladimirw 17 November 2015 15: 27
    0
    It is bad news. ukrofashists pull together everything that can be done to defeat New Russia.
    1. Down House
      Down House 17 November 2015 15: 55
      0
      Quote: vladimirw
      ukrofashists pull together everything that can be done to defeat New Russia.

      It is unlikely to talk about any defeat, given that they are pulling together frankly written-off rubbish.
    2. engineer74
      engineer74 17 November 2015 15: 56
      0
      Well, not so bad! It looks like the ammunition for the Grad is running out, and this thing is not very convenient to shoot at long distances. Maybe there will be less shelling of civilians.
      IMHO
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 17 November 2015 16: 17
        -5
        In Ukraine, ammunition of tens of millions of tons of years per 100 war will be enough, ammunition production plants remain - American firms will help establish the production of new ammunition. And this MiniGrad C 8 may be even more effective than Grad.
  11. gloomy fox
    gloomy fox 17 November 2015 15: 27
    0
    it’s necessary to show what the budget money is going to go. We didn’t steal but what kind of stuff Zababakhali, they say that the enemies will run away from them with fear. But the grenade launcher will go to his barrel and the khan of this whole piece. Inventors are rationalizers.
  12. VIK_1961
    VIK_1961 17 November 2015 15: 30
    +4
    It remains only to put torpedo tubes from "Hetman Sakhaidachny" on ATVs (one "garden plant" rotting at the wall) - and "Forward, to the wine cellars !!!!!!!"
  13. soroKING
    soroKING 17 November 2015 15: 31
    +1
    and in Ukraine secretly train heavy slingers belay
  14. Aland
    Aland 17 November 2015 15: 32
    0
    Oh world wait for more Boeings
  15. Mahal Makhalych
    Mahal Makhalych 17 November 2015 15: 37
    +1
    XXI century ... Europe ... what
  16. Chulman
    Chulman 17 November 2015 15: 38
    -4
    Laugh laugh at Ukrainians. Debt can be considered forgiven, they raised morale. And it will go on hell knows how much!
    1. Anatole
      Anatole 17 November 2015 19: 14
      0
      Something their fighting hopak somehow quickly changed to the eternal song. They again in this farewell to "Borg" saw the most joyous joy. The whole point is in the postponement condition, i.e. guarantees in securities of guarantors.
  17. Avis24
    Avis24 17 November 2015 15: 41
    +7
    No matter how this thing looks, it can very well be effective. The S-8 can be launched at 6 km. And they lay down at the same time heap. I have experience observing them shooting from the ground. at short ranges, range expansion from a full set of 600m.
  18. olf
    olf 17 November 2015 15: 44
    0
    It was the Americans who disguised the Javelins sent to them.
  19. roskot
    roskot 17 November 2015 15: 50
    +3
    Everything for the front, everything for the victory. Chariots are coming.
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 17 November 2015 17: 48
      +5
      What’s the chariot driver armed with? A fighting bunch?
  20. uav80
    uav80 17 November 2015 15: 50
    +4
    Maybe from the prodigy too ...
  21. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 17 November 2015 15: 54
    +2
    Quote: treble 72019
    Quote: Altona
    Apparently the engineers from ISIS arrived ...
    The principle of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is cheaper and for free, soon they will reach it

    The over-horizon guidance system, the accuracy of the guidance servo mechanisms and the accuracy of the automatic loader are amazing. Nanotechnology however ...
  22. SAM 5
    SAM 5 17 November 2015 15: 56
    +9
    Ukrainians also have problems with aviation carriers of these blocks

    How so, and this.
  23. Ilnarturk
    Ilnarturk 17 November 2015 15: 59
    0
    This is not from shit ... but sweetie, but just the opposite shit ... met GU-1
  24. Shilochnik
    Shilochnik 17 November 2015 15: 59
    +3
    I looked, read and at first did not understand- a pair of 9m37 weighs no more than 100 kg. (we will each throw one rocket onto the rail with handles). And here is one block of NURS-500kg! How does the swing part of the launcher cope with a load of 1 ton? Then he took apart in the photo additional braces from the bottom of the rails, in two places fixed to the gunner’s turret !!!! That is, guidance is impossible in the elevation angle ??? !!!! And where will they shoot? ....
  25. Shilochnik
    Shilochnik 17 November 2015 16: 02
    +3
    And another joke! NURS blocks were fixed on one machine, like regular rockets, from below the guides, in the second photo from above !!!! Each ZRBatr has its own know-how ????
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 17 November 2015 16: 10
      0
      APU and National Guard under org. more and more ISILs are reminiscent of the staff structure, or of the Afghan mujahideen - a bunch of small, almost uncontrollable gangs! Makhno had even more order!
  26. Kibl
    Kibl 17 November 2015 16: 06
    0
    A multi-barreled "shaitan pipe" however!
  27. Down House
    Down House 17 November 2015 16: 07
    +1
    The very idea of ​​a mini MLRS itself is certainly good as a rearmament, to quickly deploy firing points - but not when it comes to the misuse of decommissioned weapons laughing
  28. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 17 November 2015 16: 11
    +2
    Russia launched Caliber cruise missile attacks on the capital of the IS from a submarine in the Mediterranean Sea. This is the first practical use of such weapons. So Russia responded to the confirmation of the attack on board the A321 in Egypt, writes RBC.

    The Russian diesel-electric submarine Rostov-on-Don, making the transition from the Northern Fleet to Novorossiysk, launched Caliber cruise missiles from the eastern part of the Mediterranean Sea in the vicinity of the Syrian city of Raqqa, the capital of the Islamic State banned in Russia, said RBC source close to the Ministry of Defense.

    Now the results of the strike are analyzed using air and space reconnaissance. According to the interlocutor of RBC, the blow was made after the order of Russian President Vladimir Putin to strengthen the strikes against terrorists in connection with their involvement in the crash of the Russian A321 plane in Egypt.

    The purpose of strikes from the Rostov-on-Don DPL was training bases, headquarters, warehouses with weapons and ammunition, points of deployment of militant groups. The strike was carried out not along the benchtop, but along a ballistic trajectory at an altitude of several kilometers in order to avoid incidents due to heavy navigation in the Mediterranean.

    The launch from the Rostov-on-Don submarine was the first case of the use of cruise missiles launched from a submarine at a real enemy’s targets in the history of the Russian armed forces, the RBC source said.

    There was no official confirmation of a new attack on the IS from Moscow. The first to be reported by the media in France and the United States. The French publication le Monde, citing the French Ministry of Defense, announced the launch of Russian cruise missiles from the Mediterranean Sea on Racca, without indicating the carrier of the missiles. According to the publication, the launch of missiles was carried out on the morning of Tuesday, November 17.


    DPL deployment will be in the Black Sea ...
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 17 November 2015 16: 16
      +1
      The blow was not carried out on the floor, but on ballistic trajectories at a height of several kilometers to avoid incidents due to busy shipping in the Mediterranean.

      Is RBC's "source" in the Ministry of Defense a cleaner? Or a barmaid? request
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 17 November 2015 16: 59
        +2
        Quote: engineer74
        Is RBC's "source" in the Ministry of Defense a cleaner? Or a barmaid?

        in vain you are so, the barmaid is generally more knowledgeable, you won’t tell me - you won’t eat ... laughing
  29. Yarik
    Yarik 17 November 2015 16: 11
    0
    And if he flies into such a design ... what will happen?
  30. Anchonsha
    Anchonsha 17 November 2015 16: 16
    +2
    You just need to warn the ukrofashists that Russia will be forced to use force to force peace and everything will fall into place with these rabbits and gutted
  31. S-cream
    S-cream 17 November 2015 16: 21
    0
    The first step to jihad wheelbarrows?
  32. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 17 November 2015 16: 33
    +1
    we’ll also need to steal the Maidan catapult on a caterpillar move, here it will be
  33. anti-Semite
    anti-Semite 17 November 2015 16: 41
    0
    it’s not funny, in fact, if this crap gives a full salvo in the city, then mom will do the troubles
  34. Alexey Boukin
    Alexey Boukin 17 November 2015 16: 50
    0
    Quote: DanSabaka
    and airplanes cannot fly (expensive and pilots are afraid) ....

    Yes, a little expensive. But Russia will "help" by postponing debt payments ...
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  36. iv.ionov
    iv.ionov 17 November 2015 17: 05
    +2
    And, after all, in vain everyone is making fun of these "inventions", that they will not shoot aimingly, etc. and so on, but in my opinion they don't care, where and for whom, they will jump and dump, and then you look for fistulas !! ! And, now let's think about the people to whom these "gifts" will fly !!! Do you think a person will be bothered by thoughts about what kind of weapon they will kill, from a branded factory or homemade one ??? So we laugh in vain, how many people will die from all these "wunderwaffel" !!!
    1. kpd
      kpd 17 November 2015 20: 03
      +1
      There is also a second bottom, according to the agreement it is required to withdraw all weapons with a caliber of over 100 mm, Grad - a caliber of 133 mm, but this little figurine with a caliber of 80 mm falls under the "convection" types of weapons and does not contradict the Minsk agreements.
  37. Dr. Stein
    Dr. Stein 17 November 2015 17: 08
    +1
    Quote: ArcanAG
    And how to aim there?

    Downwind ...........
  38. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 17 November 2015 17: 25
    -1
    Another super modern, high-precision, and of course unique, unparalleled offspring of the most ingenious Ukrainian gunsmiths. Something this ce Europe brings me more and more to Africa.
  39. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 17 November 2015 18: 00
    +3
    As it turned out in practice, in order to create military equipment and ammunition, Russians are still needed. And moreover, Russians from Russia. As "fraternal" republics are not puffed up, and they are not really able to produce shit themselves. Well, Soviet reserves will be burned. And then? the occupation is very expensive. And the war with Russia is three times expensive.
    But they have nowhere to go. They will go. They don’t have to keep the army in the field all winter. For the army requires food, fuel, a burner and ammunition. Even standing still the army devours huge sums.
    But most importantly ... the army is decomposed morally and turns into an uncontrollable herd.
  40. Fisman
    Fisman 17 November 2015 18: 00
    0
    Whatever the child would amuse, if only he would not shoot at peaceful cities!
  41. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 17 November 2015 19: 49
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    Judging by the video materials that appeared on the Web, Russian bombers used the latest X-101 long-range strategic missiles against the terrorist targets in Syria.

    According to open sources, these air-based strike means, which have low radar visibility, are capable of covering targets at ranges of up to 5,5 thousand meters. Thanks to the most up-to-date guidance system, the X-101s have the highest hit accuracy, the deflection radius is not more than 2-5 m. According to their tactical and technical characteristics, the X-101s are the best in the world.

    These cruise missiles are capable of using modernized Russian strategic aviation aircraft. Such a "long arm" allows the Russian armed forces to be able to hit targets in any part of the world.


    Note for especially frostbitten Svidomo! Do not be "dashing"!
  42. Shilochnik
    Shilochnik 17 November 2015 20: 06
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    Quote: Dr. Stein
    Quote: ArcanAG
    And how to aim there?

    Downwind ...........


    In the car, the gunner has a sight with a brand and view rings. The electric drive system of the rocking part of the launcher provides synchronous aiming of the sight and guides with the target (the operator works with a remote control, two handles with up and down movement for elevation guidance, and by turning the entire control unit to the right and left in azimuth). In a situation with this device, on which, judging by the photo, the swinging parts with the guides are rigidly fixed, elevation guidance is impossible. Accordingly, only direct fire. And there is no question of aligning the firing line with the line of sight (as on the barrel ZSU). Conclusion - the main thing for this pepelatsa - just shoot ... In an approximate direction .... To nowhere .... Just a lot of fire "to whom God will send" .... it's like in action movies, a burst from the belly from right to left. ...
  43. soroKING
    soroKING 17 November 2015 20: 14
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    Quote: uav80
    Maybe from the prodigy too ...

    What's this? Spitting tubes?
  44. 2806 Mikhail
    2806 Mikhail 17 November 2015 20: 23
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    Ukrainian enterprises received an order to manufacture 100 such packages .. so they
  45. BULLIT
    BULLIT 17 November 2015 20: 55
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    I will say the words of S. Lavrov: DEBILS B ... THAT! bully
  46. Tankomaster
    Tankomaster 17 November 2015 21: 05
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    Morons, it’s exactly said .... to launch S-8 missiles from these blocks, an initial speed of at least 300 km \ h is needed, more precisely, you need to check the directory, and there will be so much dispersion .. that the effect is zero .. but the civilian population can surely suffer ... so Lavrov was right ... DEBILS B ... THAT!
  47. Taoist
    Taoist 17 November 2015 21: 07
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    The nastiest thing about such "alterations" is that these missiles are designed to exit the block at the speed of an aircraft (stabilization by the plumage and its area is designed for a certain speed) - and when used from a ground platform, the spread increases so much that such a projectile flies "wherever God sends" ... Well, he has a range at the same time ... From the air, the C8 flies up to 4 x km. More or less sighting range up to 2x ... from the ground to shoot the main thing that would not be on your head However, looking at all the other self-styled shushpanzers with brains there and with hands not out of the ass, a lot of strain ...
  48. twincam
    twincam 17 November 2015 21: 19
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    you can still have an air gun, some sort of general gun to pick up, and go with it like Ramba or Arnie))))
  49. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 18 November 2015 05: 42
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    This Ukrainian military-industrial complex signed its complete decline. Twenty years of theft almost completely killed the unique military industry.
  50. Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 November 2015 10: 07
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    It seems to me that not all tests of such machines will pass.
    Part will explode in place, part will burn from the exhaust.
    After all, if I remember correctly, there is so much fuel in those charges,
    that would just come out of the block and not fall like a bomb,
    I’m silent about stabilization in general.
    That is, we set fire to such a charge, the fuel burns, it is gaining traction,
    burns a car to e-yum, heats the block and sets fire to neighboring shells ...
    1. hjcuhfybwf
      hjcuhfybwf 18 November 2015 13: 06
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      The evil thing is definitely like the home-made guns in Syria. I’m glad that more than 10 sets willn’t let NURSs out of warehouses. It's scary to take them out not just to shoot them. But also the simultaneous disposal of BM and crew.