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Russia + Saudi Arabia = partnership?

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The press writes about diplomatic coordination of the visit to Moscow of Saudi King Salman. This indicates, according to foreign experts, that Riyadh is ripe for a “compromise solution” on Syria and Bashar Assad. The visit of the king can take place at the end of November. There are also rumors of things to come. armory a deal between Russia and Saudi Arabia worth up to $ 10 billion.




According to LiveLeak.com, reports about the likely visit of the King of Saudi Arabia to Russia show: the adventure of Riyadh in Syria is coming to an end.

According to the press secretary of the Russian president, Dmitry Peskov, LiveLeak.com website notes, King Salman’s visit to Moscow is currently undergoing coordination through diplomatic channels.

This shows that Riyadh is ready to abandon its former aggressive decision regarding the Syrian crisis. To explain the refusal is not so difficult: the attempts of the kingdom to act in Syria did not lead to success. It’s not at all necessary to talk about the coming "victory" of Saudi strategists. In addition, the forces of the Saudis are at the limit: an effect also occurs in the operation in Yemen.

Wanting to continue to play a central role in the region, the Saudi royal house seems to be “making serious efforts”, trying to “bring relations with Putin's Russia to a completely different level.”

Analysts say that the economic situation in Saudi Arabia is sad: the monarch’s treasury risks deserting, and the Arab “welfare state” may simply be bankrupt. This financial hole, this commodity economy closes petrodollar savings. The budget deficit of the monarchy this year, according to forecasts, will be 21,6% of GDP.

And expenses are growing. There is war, there is war. And in the summer of this year, the Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency was forced to withdraw 70 billion from assets in foreign investment funds. It can be assumed that this is only the beginning of the return of capital to their homeland.

The Saudis are not alone in their losses. Their regional allies, too, apparently, fall out of the category of those who could be considered “strong”. The total budget deficit of Middle Eastern oil-exporting countries in the next five years could reach 1 trillion. dollars.

This is where the "friendliness" of Saudi Arabia in relation to Russia takes root. But quite recently, when Russia launched the first air strikes in Syria on the positions of terrorists, Saudi Arabia condemned these attacks as a "reactionary" policy and considered them potentially "counterproductive."

Now, apparently, the Saudis thought better of it. In addition to the coming visit of the king, the statement of Prince Turki al-Faisal, the former ambassador of Saudi Arabia to the USA and the former chief of intelligence of the kingdom, speaks about the new strategy. He openly expressed confidence that “Russia's strategy towards Syria is more effective than the actions of the United States,” and that the Russian point of view on policy in the region requires “attention and respect.”

Meanwhile, Moscow’s views on Syria and B. Assad as the legitimate ruler have not changed since the beginning of the conflict in 2011.

You can’t say it about the Saudis.

Recently, Riyadh issued a “secret document” distributed to the embassies in the Middle East. Diplomats were instructed to stop financing the so-called Syrian rebels. This means that the house of Saud is no longer the main goal in Syria to overthrow the Assad regime.

Such a trend, analysts say, if it only continues, will be one of the main positive steps in the region aimed at achieving peace. After all, Saudi money previously went to finance numerous terrorist groups that tried to overthrow the Assad regime. So it was during the reign of King Abdullah and the intelligence chief Prince Bandar. It is these figures that are responsible for the war against B. Assad.

Later, when Salman came to power, Bandar was fired, which in itself was a hint of changes in Saudi Arabia’s foreign policy. The changes became “official” when the Minister of Defense of Saudi Arabia visited Russia (in the middle of 2015 of the year).

The current Saudis to “constructive engagement” is due to economic factors. The monarchy is “very interested” in the discovery for itself and for the regional allies of the “doors” leading “to the global infrastructure”: here both China and Eurasia (Russia and the states of the Eurasian Economic Union).

Such a development (if only Riyadh follows this path) would be much more positive than the financing of thousands of terrorists, who, of course, later hit the same Saudi Arabia and its allies. (Unless, of course, they are allowed to win in Syria and Iraq.)

This political shift also shows that the Saudis are much more interested in supporting their economy through the oil union with Russia, rather than putting sticks in Moscow. Cooperation with Russia is also beneficial: an agreement with Saudi Arabia can provide additional oil revenues in the amount of about $ 180 billion per year.

Obviously, Saudi Arabia, like Russia, needs a higher price for oil on the world market. In these conditions, the Saudis cannot achieve a higher price by “not taking on board” Russia and Iran.

It seems that Riyadh made some conclusions from the chaos that he himself had generated in the Middle East.

The “deal of the century,” which is reported by Russian media, would also help the Saudis to “become friends” with Moscow.

As 11 broadcast on November TV channel "Star", for the possible visit of the head of Saudi Arabia in Moscow is preparing a package of contracts for the supply of weapons to the kingdom worth up to 10 billions of dollars.

Earlier, the head of the Ministry of Defense of Saudi Arabia, Mohammed bin Salman, visited the Army-2015 forum and the St. Petersburg Economic Forum, where he expressed interest in Iskander missile systems, the TV channel reminds.

Reports of the proposed transaction appear in other sources.

Salman Ibn Abdel-Aziz Al-Saud’s visit to Russia is preparing a package of contracts for the supply of weapons to the kingdom worth up to $ 10 billion. He told the newspaper "Vedomosti" top manager of one of the Rostec enterprises; The same information was confirmed by a source close to the management of Rosoboronexport.

Nevertheless, Russian experts have conflicting opinions on this matter.

The interlocutor of Vedomosti, close to the leadership of Rosoboronexport, does not believe in the reality of a major transaction: after all, the United States and the United Kingdom dominate the Saudi market.

The chief researcher at the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences, Irina Zvyagelskaya, told Vedomosti that arms deals between Russia and Saudi Arabia can be concluded despite disagreements on the Syrian issue: “It's one thing politics, the other is security. Pragmatism can prevail here. ”

At the end of November, we add from ourselves, it will become clear from where (and where) the wind is blowing. In any case, Saudi Arabia, with its lean oil budget, is no longer able to generously finance the militants fighting against the Syrian government. In addition, Washington’s overseas ally of the Saudis no longer insists on “leaving,” much less overthrowing Assad. The other day, Barack Obama even spoke about the “importance of military efforts” of Russia in Syria. He did this at the G20 summit.

In such circumstances, it is unprofitable for the Saudis to fight on two fronts: to feed “rebels” with money and weapons and to fight against the Hussites in Yemen. No wonder the American generals have already noticed that Riyadh is not eager to actively fight in the American coalition against the IG in Syria. Riyadh simply does not have enough strength for everything: Assad, "IG" and Yemen - this is too much. And oil is getting cheaper ...

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  1. izya top
    izya top 18 November 2015 05: 46 New
    +4
    I think for Iran goes bargaining
    1. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 18 November 2015 06: 08 New
      +5
      Yes, it’s just that Russia is now in Syria, now the USA has shut off oxygen and these camel drivers have nothing to catch there for a long time, so they started talking about some problems there!
      1. SSR
        SSR 18 November 2015 06: 23 New
        +3
        Quote: kod3001
        Yes, it’s just that Russia is now in Syria, now the United States blocked oxygen there

        Well, Duc "the whole world" believed that he had imposed sanctions against Russia, the economy was torn and the window was boarded up in Europe ..... Although earlier boarded up Doors to Asia, the Middle East and other countries were opened.)))

        PS
        2 The Pepper, Thierry Meyssan, a man worthy of attention. Imha.)))
        1. hydrox
          hydrox 18 November 2015 08: 43 New
          11
          Quote: SSR
          there is now the United States then blocked oxygen


          And who blocked oxygen to whom?
          Have we already bombed everyone, and Assad shot everyone and freed everything?
          Early rejoice, everything is just beginning and the States did not say their last word.
          It’s just not clear what Russia can agree with the KSA, which finances and supplies arms to this same Islamic Caliphate - for this alone the Saudis must be wiped off the face or given to slavery to Iran ...
          1. volot-voin
            volot-voin 18 November 2015 08: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: hydrox
            It’s just not clear what Russia can negotiate with the KSA, which finances and supplies arms to this same Islamic Caliphate -

            It is most likely about "trade in Syria and Iran." Well, maybe somewhere the Russian weapons are interesting. Saudis have been our enemies and competitors since the start of oil production and the industrial revolution. Probably No. 3 after the UK and the USA.
          2. Angro Magno
            Angro Magno 18 November 2015 09: 45 New
            +3
            It would be nice to drop weapons in parallel with the Hussites. The same Iskander they need. And they can handle missiles better than Ukrainians.
          3. bandabas
            bandabas 18 November 2015 16: 55 New
            0
            Arabs are not stupid people (as for the other qualities, those who came across them will understand). Two tribes of Israel with Jewish relatives. They just realized that "suddenly a wizard can fly in a blue helicopter, and, for free, will show ... ... as a gift for another popsicle." And, precisely, therefore, they cannot be given a “machine gun”. Well, I like anthologies with Soviet aphorisms from movies (cartoons).
      2. good7
        good7 18 November 2015 06: 43 New
        +6
        All right, the camels were just squeezed, so they started whining. Russia currently benefits from relations with Iran than with the SA. And the sponsors of world terrorism must be spread rot!
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 18 November 2015 07: 08 New
          +2
          I think for Iran goes bargaining
          - It is unlikely. More likely about the Hussites that the Russian Federation would speak to Iran indirectly. Or all about the "rebels" - Wahhabis.
          1. mirag2
            mirag2 18 November 2015 07: 11 New
            0
            If the conversation were about Iran, the sum would have to be higher than that proposed by Iran for Russian planes, more than 20 billion, or at least equal.
            Oil prices here will not be the subject of bargaining. A low price is needed both for CA so that Iran does not get rich, and the USA for the RF to rot.
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            2. Tilkus75
              Tilkus75 18 November 2015 11: 58 New
              +3
              Rumors circulated that the entire banquet in Syria was at their expense. The amount of ~ $ 150 billion.
        2. tracer
          tracer 18 November 2015 19: 37 New
          0
          I would even say .. rit! In the best traditions of the Dembel culture. The blood on the snow-white robes of the king of camels is to the ears.
        3. lukke
          lukke 18 November 2015 21: 58 New
          0
          I would add that it would be possible to help even the Hussites in Yemen and the Saudis would instantly become more accommodating, well, or really - would get on a big dough like we once because of oil prices
    2. Ramzaj99
      Ramzaj99 18 November 2015 19: 17 New
      0
      The Russian air forces have decided to hit ISIS from the economic point of view, and part of the planes are set to "free hunt" for fuel trucks. According to the Ministry of Defense, more than 500 fuel trucks were destroyed in two days.
  2. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 18 November 2015 05: 55 New
    +4
    Yes, the Saudis did not expect Russia to come up so seriously. They did it, they understand that they are under the gun, and in the event of a confrontation with Russia, no one will save them. I remember at the very beginning of the Russian air forces that they had a completely different tone.
    1. atakan
      atakan 18 November 2015 09: 08 New
      +4
      According to TASS, in the military district (Middle-earth), VKS exercises were conducted involving long-range aviation and a submarine fleet.
      and now it will always be so. request Mordor’s hand will reach everywhere.
      There in Saudi live such that they only understand the power.
      Arapian specifics
    2. Dilshat
      Dilshat 18 November 2015 15: 17 New
      +2
      Once Russia wins the BV, then let the Saudis pay yasak, and then the money does not know where to go. Spend on adventures like igil and alkaeda.
      1. Aryan
        Aryan 19 November 2015 00: 15 New
        0
        the camel is their sexual partner ...
        there is no one to talk to ... stop
  3. Sartorius
    Sartorius 18 November 2015 05: 56 New
    21
    The Saudis are one of our most consistent enemies. They helped to destroy the USSR and are plotting now. It was right for them to repay with the same coin. Through Iran, assist Yemen with the transfer of hostilities to Saudi territory.
    1. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 18 November 2015 14: 22 New
      +3
      Quote: Sartorius
      Through Iran, assist Yemen with the transfer of hostilities to Saudi territory.

      Alexei, it’s so simple for information, the border between Yemen and Saudi Arabia practically does not exist, not that there are no border posts and outposts, they are not on the Arabian Peninsula at all, it (the border) is not legally drawn, that is, there is not even a line on the map. By the way, in Soviet atlases it was indicated. Therefore, it’s quite difficult to talk about transferring hostilities to someone’s territory and can really be attributed only to the few settlements and oases that are under the legal control of neighboring countries.
      But in general, colleague, I certainly agree with you about the Saudis. hi
    2. SIMM
      SIMM 18 November 2015 21: 37 New
      +1
      Right!)
      And there really can’t be any "partnership", let alone friendship with these ........!
      We do not forget anything!
  4. m262
    m262 18 November 2015 05: 56 New
    13
    If it turns out that they are involved in a terrorist attack with an airplane, a pair of cruise missiles on the culprits will give unprecedented acceleration to friendship ...
    Yes, their princes will start to overtake steam locomotives, so that Russia will like it!
  5. igorka357
    igorka357 18 November 2015 05: 58 New
    +4
    Slowly, the king begins to grease Russia's mother !!!
  6. ImPerts
    ImPerts 18 November 2015 06: 11 New
    +5
    I don’t know, maybe this is a fake, or maybe ...
    http://vz.ru/opinions/2015/11/13/777911.html
    "Voltaire discovered super-interesting material on the Net; the French sent me at night.
    This is an article by the famous author Thierry Meyssan. He claims that just before Putin’s address to the UN, that is, before the 30 of September, an agreement was concluded between the United States and Russia.
    First, the parties agreed that they would "fight against the ideology of terrorism, that is, at the same time against the Muslim Brotherhood, created by Great Britain and supported by Turkey, as well as against Wahhabism spread by Saudi Arabia ... ..."
  7. parusnik
    parusnik 18 November 2015 06: 18 New
    10
    Russia + Saudi Arabia = partnership?..If the partnership takes place ... it will be an insidious partnership on the part of the Saudis ...
    1. viktor561
      viktor561 18 November 2015 07: 09 New
      +6
      What kind of partnership ??? - maybe a temporary truce. The price war on the oil market is in full swing, and Saudi Arabia started this war. Moreover, in Europe, the main goal of the Saudis is to oust Russian oil from the market.
      1. sa-ag
        sa-ag 18 November 2015 08: 12 New
        +2
        Quote: viktor561
        The price war on the oil market is in full swing, and Saudi Arabia started this war.

        How? The States started it with their shale mining, dropping prices, and then, when prices rise, this very shale mining will become profitable and the swing will go in the opposite direction
        1. T-73
          T-73 18 November 2015 09: 03 New
          +5
          Quote: sa-ag
          How? The States began its shale mining, dropping prices,

          Now no one will say for sure whether the states started or the Saudis and who agreed with whom and against whom they were friends. Everyone received their share of losses: the Russian Federation, Arabia, and the SGA. The profitability of shale oil among Americans is now about zero, income from the sale of oil has fallen from everyone, the Saudis also felt this very strongly. 90% of their GDP is not industrial production at all, but the oil and gas industry. We are also not profitable, but we definitely did not need a barrel of $ 50. Most likely the Americans really started, but not shale mining. There was a comprehensive approach, including reports on oil reserves. It is enough to know how they are determined (who needs to be found) to understand how easy it is to manipulate this, plus hitting our companies, the recession of the global economy (it’s just played in time due to falling demand), etc. And the Arabs harnessed with almost an increase in production with the "growth" of declared reserves, without calculating everything for a sufficiently long term. Hence the swift statements about our economy torn to shreds. Statements on schedule, reality really lives its own life.
          1. demos1111
            demos1111 18 November 2015 13: 11 New
            +3
            Everything is much simpler, the United States hoped to drag Russia into a big war in Ukraine, connect Europe to it and collapse the price of oil and sanctions by itself. Russia in this situation should have collapsed, or respond with tactical nuclear weapons, Europe was allowed to respond in the same limited way, and everything for the United States is in chocolate, there are no competitors. But Russia didn’t come to a direct war, Khokhlov Putin hangs on Europe or the United States with all his lies and lies, climbed into Syria himself, and what should the West do now? Khokhlov to throw, to give Syria, so much dough invested, and Europe at this moment because of Ukrainians will not fight with Russia with the "calibers".
            So they decided to search the world through the Arabs.
            .... And for me, to squeeze both those and others. Right now send a registered letter to the entire highest vertical of power and in this letter clearly state that under the law of wartime, they (the authorities in Ukraine) are sentenced to death, wherever they are for treason before their people and, most importantly, for the betrayal of grandfathers and fathers. The execution will be open and public.
  8. Wolka
    Wolka 18 November 2015 06: 20 New
    +7
    it’s strange to me, it’s known that “mom and dad” igil is Saudi Arabia + Qatar, and Turkey was holding a candle from the CIA from the Yankees, and now the Saudis are trying to agree with Russia on the supply of weapons, why aren’t the international community taking measures to holding these masterminds and financiers of international terrorism accountable ...
  9. slizhov
    slizhov 18 November 2015 06: 48 New
    +3
    Kerry said that in 2-3 weeks a truce will come in Syria ...
    The USA again sees this Truce in a dream so that these nits are not destroyed, but are given the opportunity to penetrate all state power structures through various kinds of elections, or to SAVE THIS HULL as a “right sector”, for example, in Ukraine.
    Only, as Putin said-DESTROY !!!
  10. vitya1945
    vitya1945 18 November 2015 06: 49 New
    +4
    The GDP has set an example that there is nothing to be afraid of the Americans, and slowly the people are beginning to see clearly.
    The king understood that he would play a little more, and he would get to him, but he wanted to remain king.
    1. kill the fascist
      kill the fascist 18 November 2015 09: 10 New
      +3
      what example, what kind of people are seeing? any “clue” standing in the way of US interests will be crushed. nothing changes in the world. Today, the two countries that can resist the United States are the Russian Federation and China. there are several more countries that implement the principle of “small bug and smelly” - they have mastered nuclear technology and can arrange a small-town nuclear collapse. they are waging a "cold war" with them, but if there is an urgent need for the USA, it will also escalate in military confrontation. the rest of the world - maneuvers, cuts a branch on its own or climb "under the roof" of one or another "authority".
  11. viktor561
    viktor561 18 November 2015 06: 53 New
    +4
    Quote: Sartorius
    Saudis are one of our most consistent enemies

    Absolutely true - they need to be crushed by terrorists. With such a "partnership" - do not respect yourself.
    It is possible to make them condition that they would remove their terrorists! And then accidentally misses the “Caliber” - and fucks at the royal palace in Riyadh!
  12. Stoler
    Stoler 18 November 2015 06: 58 New
    +5
    What the hell are the Arabs partners ?! If they, in order to please African Americans and harm Russia, are not the first time to collapse world oil prices. Does anyone think that they can change? Yes, the servant will never go against the master, this is not eastern. Nefannye seals are bad.
    1. antiexpert
      antiexpert 18 November 2015 07: 24 New
      +2
      Quote: Stoler
      What the hell are the Arabs partners ?!

      Dear, the Saudis are not Arabs.
      The hereditary Jewish family, real Jews, has ruled in the SA for hundreds of years!
  13. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 18 November 2015 07: 06 New
    +4
    What do the Saudis want Escanders? If they will be at enmity with us, we can deliver the Scanners to them for cheap.
    1. Belousov
      Belousov 18 November 2015 12: 09 New
      +2
      Yeah, due to self-delivery from Yemen.
  14. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 18 November 2015 07: 24 New
    +4
    Russia already has "Partners" ... overseas, for example, they are so reliable, just turn your back on meanness in your pocket. And now these her "partners" fit in. Well, if our leaders are completely rational, everything was overshadowed by the ghost of a 10-lard deal, then the flag is in hand. True consequences will be unpredictable.
  15. Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 November 2015 07: 26 New
    +1
    So this world war will end with the collapse of a number of countries in the Middle East,
    due to the resources of which the West will stretch a little more.
    The past world war ended with the collapse of the USSR ...
  16. anfreezer
    anfreezer 18 November 2015 07: 27 New
    +1
    Yes, the budget itself, tied to the export of hydrocarbons, is not so hot ... Forced need to look for common ground for the same oil .. There would be (oh, so far dreams, dreams) a different structure for filling the budget, we would have been able to see the situation in the region like kittens not normalized tomorrow) (if at all possible), it would be enough. Oh well, the good rule "Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer" has not been canceled yet .. And the fact that the Saudis are ENEMY is an axiom ..
  17. cap
    cap 18 November 2015 07: 54 New
    +4
    The cutting off of heads by Ishilians is not from the Saudi Criminal Code.
    Weapons if sold mark with indelible paint.
    It is not known where it will pop up.
    "Kings", "Princes" .21 century in the yard. Where enlightened Europe and the main vehicle of "democracy" are looking.
    They throw stones at women, they are ill-disposed towards "tolerasts." Why is Femen silent.
    On the plane and protest in the main square. I would very much like to see the result.
  18. Stepan stepanovich
    Stepan stepanovich 18 November 2015 07: 58 New
    +5
    In Saudi Arabia:
    Analysts say that the economic situation in Saudi Arabia is sad: the monarch’s treasury risks deserting, and the Arab “welfare state” may simply be bankrupt. This financial hole, this commodity economy closes petrodollar savings. The budget deficit of the monarchy this year, according to forecasts, will be 21,6% of GDP.
    And expenses are growing. There is war, there is war. And in the summer of this year, the Saudi Arabian Monetary Agency was forced to withdraw 70 billion from assets in foreign investment funds. It can be assumed that this is only the beginning of the return of capital to their homeland.


    I could not resist.

    In Russian federation:
    Analysts argue that the economic situation in the Russian Federation is magnificent: but Russia's treasury runs the risk of overflowing. The Russian "welfare state" may simply be on the verge of terrifying deflation. The budget surplus of the Federation this year is projected to be 21,6% of GDP.

    And incomes are growing. Sanctions. There is war, there is war. And this summer:
    In response to the sanctions of the “partners”, the Russian commodity economy, with its financial surpluses, strikes an asymmetric blow in an amount equal to half of the federal budget revenues! The Central Bank of the Russian Federation Acquires 10 Billion US Government Bonds!

    It can be assumed that the ongoing flow of capital from Russia to the United States is only the beginning of the revival of our beloved Motherland!
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 18 November 2015 12: 23 New
      0
      Analysts claim


      The Russian language is great and mighty, just listen: populism, the analyst ...
      Sounds? laughing
  19. Ilya77
    Ilya77 18 November 2015 08: 24 New
    0
    If this partnership will be to purchase weapons from us - I am only for it. We will earn excellent money, and it’s silly to refer to old grievances, it didn’t reach the war with China at all, and they constantly copy our weapons, but nevertheless we sell them both S-400 and Su-35. I heard that the Saudis heard that it was better to be friends with us, even ISIS stopped sponsoring, only Qatar remained in the sponsors.
    1. Olezhek
      Olezhek 18 November 2015 12: 24 New
      0
      will not be - this is a "wiring rabbits for money"
  20. aszzz888
    aszzz888 18 November 2015 08: 39 New
    0
    It seems to me that the Saudis want to jump into the second chair. On the first, the legs of steel become tangled, and you see, they fall apart.
    What will come of it - time will tell. And to pull them to your side would be nice in every way.
  21. T-73
    T-73 18 November 2015 08: 46 New
    +7
    What kind of partnership? Yes, the world has changed, but have the Saudis changed? Hence, we must dance. Again, bargain for something to go, or to bargain in Syria and Iran. And that’s it. As they have always behaved like a pig, this will continue. Even if someone hopes that something will change when changing the top in Saudi Arabia, then in vain. The state system will remain the same, and the goals and means of achieving them will be the same for the new leaders. So do not live a dozen years only in recent history. The mentality, however. With manners on geopolitical leadership, at least in the region. Let them come, ours have already learned how to smile sweetly with a fig in your pocket.
  22. kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 18 November 2015 08: 55 New
    +4
    Saudis are partners who should not be let out of sight by a sniper rifle
    1. Fat
      Fat 18 November 2015 09: 31 New
      +1
      caliber more reliable SVD
  23. Fat
    Fat 18 November 2015 09: 30 New
    +1
    all this garbage. the Saudis don’t buy anything from us. They don’t promise anything for the first time. The cherozhopiks heard that their efforts in Syria were covered with a copper basin. And they zavilil. Now you need to squeeze Erodogan so that the juice will drip. both us and geyropa.a shooting in Paris is beneficial to him in the first place
  24. sevtrash
    sevtrash 18 November 2015 09: 35 New
    0
    Keep your friends close and your enemies even closer. This applies to both Saudi Arabia and Russia, as well as to all countries and people. Actually for countries, this saying can often sound softer - not enemies, rivals, because today are rivals, tomorrow - like friends and so on. At least based on the fact that there are no friends, except for their own army, aviation, navy.
  25. A-Sim
    A-Sim 18 November 2015 11: 27 New
    0
    23rd trip to Iran. Here are the Saudis and are alarmed.
  26. Fisman
    Fisman 18 November 2015 13: 09 New
    0
    Oh, these "partners")))
  27. Kaban45
    Kaban45 18 November 2015 13: 12 New
    +2
    We do not need such partners / friends as Saudis! Vile people. Caucasian terrorists were supported, now the IG and others. Shit no less than the Anglo-Saxons!
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 18 November 2015 13: 39 New
      +1
      The arrival of the Saudis in Russia is most likely their last attempt to “keep” us from union and creating a so-called Shiite belt friendly to us, consisting of Iran, Iraq, Syria and possibly Lebanon (in any case, Hezbollah for sure) as opposed to the belt from Israel, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the UAE is under the "control" of the United States and supporting terrorism, unlike us and Shiites.
      But this country should not be deceived into the account of the SA, as indeed, for example, Israel in the near future will not become our not only friends but even allies.
      Here's what McCain says about Saudi Arabia:
      The greatest blow to Putin was dealt by Saudi Arabia, - McCain
      US Senator John McCain, who arrived in Ukraine on Friday, believes that Saudi Arabia has dealt the biggest blow to Vladimir Putin.
      The biggest blow for Putin was the decline in the price of a barrel of oil, for which we can thank Saudi Arabia, he said.
      http://vlasti.net/news/219761
  28. Bob
    Bob 18 November 2015 14: 06 New
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    Russia + Saudi Arabia = partnership?
    In this mathematical formula of the type x + y = z, where x-RF, -KSA, is the result of the interaction of the RF and KSA. For Russia, there are 2 unknowns in this formula - who are Saudi Arabia and what result will Russia get from interaction with KSA. I believe that for Saudi Arabia this formula is presented in a slightly different way, namely, y = zx, and in this formula for Saudi Arabia everything has long been defined, emphasis has been placed, priorities have been drawn. For KSA, Russia is the successor of the USSR, it is the same competitor in the energy market of Europe, the Asia-Pacific region, as well as the threat to the existence of KSA following the results of the Middle East wars that were fought in the 20th century. This is the basis of the KSA policy towards Russia, and in determining the value of "z" in the formula, to produce a level of the indicator "z" that would be sufficient to zero the value of "x" (Russia as a competitor and a force capable of "zeroing out" the KSA ) In the 1980s, thanks largely to KSA, the USSR economy collapsed, losing foreign exchange earnings from the sale of oil and gas. And this happened as a result of the “fair” competition of Saudi Arabia in the oil market, which threw it into the market in 1985. the additional amount of oil is significantly different from conventional supplies, which brought down the price of black gold. This is the power of the KSA over Russia - by controlling the price of oil, leading countries to flourish or decline depending on the "political" situation. A very important point - the United States is behind Saudi Arabia, with 10 AUGs and bases in the Middle East in Bahrain, in Qatar. That is why "green" in price and is quoted by its weight in gold, because it provides world trade in black gold, otherwise $ would have been overthrown for a long time. The Middle East is a key region of the planet for the current global financial system. This system was adopted in 1974 following the results of the Jamaican international conference and was called the Jamaican Currency System, which replaced the Bretton Woods system, born in 1944. This system secured the dominant role of the dollar in international oil trade calculations, and imposed certain obligations on the participants in this system, and they are still valid. (until recently, all parties were satisfied with the dollar as a means of paying for oil - and rich Saudis investing money from selling oil in American banks and buying weapons and other goods for it and no less wealthy Americans who have a military club and protect the Saudis from all potential enemies) .
    Russia must proceed from these considerations to determine the values ​​of "z" and "y" in the formula above. Although for me personally it is so clear what "y" is, and what should be the value of "z". Unfortunately, while I see the desire of the Russian Federation and officials representing it to see lambs in the Saudis, not noticing their true essence - a wolf essence - hidden under the sheep's clothing. That this is betrayal or negligence is not for me to decide. Only in the destruction of the USSR did the price of the betrayal that took place be very high.
  29. Bob
    Bob 18 November 2015 14: 16 New
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    The USSR was destroyed by several things -
    1) information attack of the West against the USSR (introduction of the values ​​of a Western person into society, comfort, worship of Western culture)
    2) excessive militarization of the economy, miscalculations with military threats and risks (we bought the SDI program and had to mobilize all the resources to eliminate the “backlog” of the military scientific and technical, which was not really there),
    3) the low price of oil and problems in the economy arising from the shortfall in foreign exchange earnings
    4) war in Afghanistan - protracted and distracting large resources
    5) systemic problems in the economy - production of means of production, and insufficient production of means of consumption, as well as low labor productivity and labor motivation, the absence of small business forms developed in other countries in agriculture, trade, food, services, etc.
    6) betrayal of a part of the elite to the national interests of the country, society and people (betrayal is that, according to the results of the referendum on the preservation of the USSR, the elite did not retain the union, but did everything to destroy it). I believe it was the betrayal of the elite at the last stage of the USSR's existence that created conflict situations in the country - for example, an artificial shortage of food products in the markets in Moscow and other centers at a time when goods were breaking down in warehouses. By the way, something similar is happening now - today there is news about the introduction of a new tax on the passage of 12 tons of trucks along federal highways, and the disorganization of the whole process, and as a result, disruption of food supplies, which in turn can inflate prices for essential goods, cause an artificial shortage of goods on the market, and as a result lead to protest moods in difficult time for the country. What is it, negligence or deliberate sabotage ?! The country is in fact led to chaos, acting very "skillfully" at the same time, from under the silence, soft power, so to speak.
    Personally, I can not forgive the Saudis for what they did to the USSR, and I will never forgive, because they have taken away from me and not only me the main and sacred - the Motherland. Therefore, it should be absolutely clear what the Saudis are striving for, bringing down the oil market today - they definitely want Russia to collapse, and this is a real WAR, and its initiators are not in El Riad, and not in Mosul, and certainly not in Raqqa, but in Washington . Therefore, considering the value of "z" in the formula, one must take into account yet another value of "e" (USA) in order to correctly calculate the forces and means necessary for "zeroing" "y".
  30. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 18 November 2015 14: 43 New
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    An interesting article, some arguments are quite controversial, but in general, of course, correctly. However the phrase

    Riyadh recently issued a "secret document" distributed to embassies in the Middle East. Diplomats were instructed to stop funding the so-called Syrian rebels.


    except for a smile, I personally do not cause other emotions. You can call the Saudis "drovers of camels", etc., but to consider them idiami would be naive and not productive. Such a “document”, even if it was in reality, and is not a fairly primitive fake, would never have surfaced in the press. It can only be either someone’s fantasy, or a stuffing that pursues certain goals, in whose interests it is. Otherwise, this would be a catastrophic failure of Saudi diplomacy, as it would serve as an almost “official” recognition of the organization of the terrorist structure in the world. No one, even the most “frostbitten” government, will ever do. Do not camillo now in the world to be known as the organizers of terror.
    Somehow such a point of view, absolutely subjective, dear colleagues. hi
  31. marinier
    marinier 18 November 2015 15: 19 New
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    In my opinion, marriage by race. The Saudis have nothing to do with devatsia. Especially in the light
    last statement, by President Putin. In my view of the Gulf monarchy
    Galis is not a joke. A statement about retaliation in any part of the World is especially true.
    Today, many Western media outlets issued a headline on the rise of the war 4ernoy
    To the International. Here and trysiutsia flirting. In my view, obeshat, does not know
    zenitsia.Vot empty Russia dares the Saudi for the libone !!!
  32. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 18 November 2015 16: 38 New
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    About Christmas time I was in a masquerade;
    I’m looking, a general is standing in a mug,
    In crosses all, extended, as if in a parade, -
    And how about tactics he lied!
    What happened? it was ... corporal.

    Fables of Jean de La Fontaine "Wolf Trick"
  33. SlavaP
    SlavaP 18 November 2015 17: 34 New
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    As the saying goes: "East is a delicate matter" ... understands only FORCE. Western strategists categorically do not understand this.
  34. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 18 November 2015 22: 54 New
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    Did the Bedouins take up their minds? Not yet noticeable; how many visits have already been; it is, of course, good, but where is the specific result? It was talked about 10 billion in RDIF - where are they? Weapons have also been said about repeatedly; so far - zero. But they do not want to stubbornly cut oil production; the price is apparently not critical.
  35. sokudo
    sokudo 19 November 2015 03: 13 New
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    All the time, the Saudis regularly contradict themselves almost daily, which most likely shows a serious disunity both of the royal family and their retinues
  36. Balagan
    Balagan 19 November 2015 05: 22 New
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    Well, the guys are not fat already ... And if so, we have to become negotiable, which suits us. Let it be a weak but curious tilt towards Russia.
  37. mmk
    mmk 21 November 2015 06: 31 New
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    Well, it’s clear that the quirks tremble in the west, and here is such a jackal decision, better with the strong ones.