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Forgotten white slaves

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It was on their shoulders that all the construction of the first colonies of the New World lay down (the Negroes joined later)

Often, the interlocutors appeal to the wonderful and enlightened West, opposing it to a dark and barbarous Russia (without fools - that is how they formulate it).

Moreover, these people do not own stories Neither Western, often do not know, or they know but rather mosaic: “here it’s not read here, and then the fish was wrapped”.

About how the West has everything “wonderful” - only lazy has not said. So wonderful that even a new reconquest is vital.

But now let's talk a little bit differently - to recall one of the little-known (and taboo) pages of the history of this very “non-barbarous” West.

Many people know that Western "welfare" is obtained by various methods. Including - the seizure of other continents, followed by plunder and the destruction of local civilizations that hindered the development of new lands.

But it would be okay if it was limited to other continents (colonies) - the West did not disdain to be "neighbors."

And we will not even remember about the knife, which was planted in the back of Byzantium by the western “allies” ... let's turn to matters less distant and not so old ...

Few know that America knew white slaves. It was on their shoulders that all the construction of the first colonies of the New World lay (the Negroes joined later). These white slaves are Irish.

I present to your attention a translation of an article about Irish slaves, written (not by Soloviev or Kiselev!) ... as you might have thought, but by a Canadian researcher from Montreal - by John Martin.

They came as slaves: a human cargo carried by British ships to the shores of both Americas. They were loaded with hundreds of thousands - men, women, and even small children.

If they were indignant or did not obey orders, they were punished in the most cruel way. The master could hang his guilty slave by the hand and set his hands or feet on fire as a punishment. Some were burned alive, and their heads, put on stakes, were exposed on the market square to teach other slaves.

We should not go into all the horrific details, should we? We are well aware of all the horrors of the African slave trade.

But is it about African slaves? Kings James VI and Charles I also worked hard to enslave the Irish. British Oliver Cromwell continued this practice of depriving the human status of his closest neighbors.

The Irish slave trade began when James VI sold the 30.000 Irish prisoners as slaves to the New World. His Proclamation from 1625 obliged to expel political prisoners across the seas and there sell to English settlers in the West Indies.

In the middle of the 1600's, the Irish made up the bulk of the slaves sold in Antigua and Monsterrat. By that time, 70% of the total population of Monsterrat were Irish slaves.

Very quickly, Ireland became the main source of human goods for English merchants. The first slaves of the New World were mostly white.

From 1641 to 1652 over 500.000 the Irish were killed by the British, other 300.000 were sold into slavery. The Irish population has declined from 1.500.000 to 600.000 in one decade.

Families were broken up because the British did not allow fathers of families to take children and wives with them on a trip across the Atlantic Ocean. This has led to the emergence of a whole population of unprotected homeless women and children. The British decision was also to put them under the hammer.

“Scientific” racism From Harper's Weekly, 1899:

Iberians by origin belong to the African race, spread over thousands of years through Spain through Western Europe. Their remains were found in mounds, or burial sites, at various points in these lands. Skulls are low type. They came to Ireland and mingled with the local residents of the South and the West, who in turn allegedly belong to a lower type of origin, being descendants of the savages of the Stone Age, who, because of their isolation from the outside world, could not develop in a healthy struggle for life, and therefore gave way, according to the laws of nature, to the higher races.

During 1650, over 100.000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were separated from their parents and sold into slavery in Vesti-India, Virginia and New England. In this decade, the 52.000 Irish (most of them women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia.

Other 30.000 Irish men and women were also shipped out and sold to the highest bidders. In the 1656 year, 2.000 Irish children, on the orders of Cromwell, were taken to Jamaica and sold there to English settlers.

Many avoid calling Irish slaves what they really were: slaves. Suggestions are terms like “contracted worker” to describe what happened to the Irish. In fact, in 17 and 18 for centuries, Irish slaves were, in most cases, nothing more than a human commodity.

For example, the trade in African slaves only began at the same time period. According to numerous documented testimonies, African slaves, unspotted by their adherence to the hated Catholic doctrine, were often treated better than their Irish comrades in misfortune.

African slaves in the late 1600-x were highly valued (£ 50). Irish slaves were much cheaper (no more than 5 pounds). If the planter s, branded or slaughtered an Irish slave before death, it was not considered a crime. Death incurred a financial loss, but much less than the murder of a more expensive African.

The English slave-owners very quickly engaged in the breeding of Irish women, both for their own pleasure and for their greater benefit. The slave children were also slaves, which increased the master's free labor.

Even if the Irish woman somehow managed to get freedom, her children remained slaves to their master. Thus, the Irish mothers, despite the newfound freedom, often could not leave the children and remained in the service.

Over time, the British found the best way to use these women to improve their market position: settlers began to cross Irish women and girls (in most cases no older than 12) with African men to remove slaves with a certain appearance. New mulatto slaves brought more profits than the Irish; moreover, they would save the settlers the money they would need to purchase new African slaves.

The practice of crossing Irish women and African men lasted for several decades and became so widespread that 1681 passed a law “forbidding” the mating of Irish women and African men to produce slaves for sale. ” In short, this ban was introduced solely for the reason that it caused damage to the profits of one large slave carrier company.

England continued to transport tens of thousands of enslaved Irish for over a century. According to testimonies, after the Irish uprising in 1798, thousands of Irish prisoners were sold to both America and Australia.

There is no doubt that the Irish experienced all the horrors of slavery to the same extent (if not more during the 17 century), as the Africans. There is also no doubt that the swarthy locals you encounter while traveling in the West Indies are likely to have both Irish and African ancestors.

In 1839, Britain finally decided to get off this satanic path and stopped the supply of slaves. And although this decision had no effect on the activities of the pirates, the new law gradually began to bring the history of the suffering of the Irish to an end.

However, if anyone, of the black or white race, believes that slavery was exclusively for Africans, they are deeply mistaken. Irish slavery should not be erased from our memory.

But why then is this topic so rarely discussed? Are the memories of hundreds of thousands of Irish victims worthy of no more than the mention of some unknown writer?

Or what should their masters so desire to happen with their history - complete extinction, as if this never happened?

None of the affected Irish could not return to their native shores to talk about their suffering. These are the missing slaves, those that are successfully forgotten by time and cleaned up history books.
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  1. istoler
    istoler 22 November 2015 06: 26
    +6
    Dead books are not written.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 22 November 2015 06: 54
      +9
      And we still want something civilized from the British and Americans today!
      Yes, they are historically up to the so-called "Universal" values ​​distance, like cannibals to the gates of Paradise!
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 22 November 2015 11: 59
        +3
        And we still want something civilized from the British and Americans today!


        And why is it surprising when criminals mastered America.
        1. saygon66
          saygon66 22 November 2015 13: 46
          +4
          - Not without that ... In the book of G. Apteker "The Colonial Era" there is a reference to the documents of the London company, which announced the goals of its colonial activities: "Elimination
          the surplus of poor people who constitute the food and fuel of dangerous rebellions, and, thus, leaving more prosperity for those who remain in the country ... "(C)
        2. saygon66
          saygon66 22 November 2015 13: 46
          0
          - Not without that ... In the book of G. Apteker "The Colonial Era" there is a reference to the documents of the London company, which announced the goals of its colonial activities: "Elimination
          the surplus of poor people who constitute the food and fuel of dangerous rebellions, and, thus, leaving more prosperity for those who remain in the country ... "(C)
        3. Amurets
          Amurets 22 November 2015 14: 18
          +2
          Quote: NIKNN
          And why is it surprising when criminals mastered America.

          And the pirates mastered the seas around. Drake, for the piracy, Queen Elizabeth1 was elevated to the knighthood and did not disdain to take treasures into the treasury after a raid in the Caribbean. As well as Henry Morgan, appointed vice-governor of Jamaica.
          1. saygon66
            saygon66 22 November 2015 14: 31
            +1
            - And here, according to the proverb "A thief from a thief ..." Zolotishko was taken from the Spanish colonies ...
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  2. region58
    region58 22 November 2015 06: 33
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    The book "The Odyssey of Captain Blood" came to mind. In it, these moments are well described, although it is an adventure in fact ... The guys read it ...
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 22 November 2015 06: 48
      +4
      I also remembered her, as well as "Children of Captain Grant" when looking for Captain Grant in Australia.
  3. apro
    apro 22 November 2015 06: 42
    +5
    The genocide of the Irish has a long history, the arrogant people cleaned their territory of dangerous people. How many troubles did they bring to the Irish, slavery, hunger, physical terror, economic pressure, deportations based on ethnicity? If the Irish would show the bill for all the sins of the queen would they be able to satisfy them?
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 22 November 2015 07: 26
      +1
      apro (2)
      If the Irish had shown the bill for all the sins of the queen would they be able to satisfy them?

      Well, what about ?! fool Right so the British fled wassat - Irish people are "SATISFIED"! angry
      But the propaganda "mess" of the Irish against the British "brew" is possible!
  4. istoler
    istoler 22 November 2015 07: 05
    +9
    Quote: Tatiana
    And today we want something civilized from the British and Americans!
    Yes, they are up to the so-called "Universal" values ​​distance, like cannibals to the gates of Paradise!


    I, too, was always touched by this admiration for such a civilization, where it was only when the Germans burned people in the furnaces or the British plagued entire nations.
    In captivity, you will agree with Alexander Nevsky who, choosing between the West and the Golden Horde, nevertheless chose the latter.
  5. parusnik
    parusnik 22 November 2015 07: 14
    +9
    In 1656, 2.000 Irish children were taken to Jamaica by order of Cromwell and sold into slavery to English settlers there... In the name of Cromwell, they still scare children in Ireland ..
    1. forwarder
      forwarder 24 November 2015 20: 16
      -2
      Quote: parusnik
      In the name of Cromwell, children in Ireland are still scared ..

      Are you often in Ireland? Communicate with a wide range of local people?
      Yes? Well done!
      Then the next question: have the borders of your village Pupkino ever left?
  6. Volga Cossack
    Volga Cossack 22 November 2015 07: 24
    +6
    give an article to read homegrown liberals !!!! correct article! thank!
  7. zekaze1980
    zekaze1980 22 November 2015 07: 39
    +4
    And we cut windows there, they need to learn from us humanity and everything else.
    1. Black Colonel
      Black Colonel 23 November 2015 11: 44
      0
      And is it for them (the Pedropeans) NADA?
  8. Jurkovs
    Jurkovs 22 November 2015 07: 45
    +1
    They not only spoiled our history, but also perverted their own.
  9. Sst
    Sst 22 November 2015 08: 26
    +1
    Ireland suffered the most, all the time - slavery, hunger, constant humiliation.) And somehow survived.
  10. traveler
    traveler 22 November 2015 09: 27
    -1
    slavery, no doubt, is a disgusting thing, the trouble is that mankind has still not got rid of it.
    and since the article begins with the opposition we-west, then our serf slavery, in my understanding, is even more shameful than our Western "partners", while they mocked foreigners - white or black is not important, our ruling class mocking his own people.
    in recent years, our government has come up with new “national” holidays for us, looking for some dates in history. I think one date - March 5, 1861 - certainly deserves to be nationwide.
    1. Down House
      Down House 22 November 2015 10: 18
      +2
      Quote: traveler
      our serf slavery, in my understanding, is even more shameful than that of our Western "partners", while they mocked foreigners - white or black - it doesn’t matter, our ruling class mocked its own people.

      Insolent lies!
      It’s a lie because, in fact, our serfdom cannot be considered an analogue of their slavery, and even a lie because in reality no one mocked anyone.
      Therefore, once again - the institution of taxable estates has nothing to do with slavery, these are completely different political and economic reasons, as well as completely different legal norms!
      1. bastard
        bastard 22 November 2015 11: 53
        11
        Quote: Down House
        Quote: traveler
        our serf slavery, in my understanding, is even more shameful than that of our Western "partners", while they mocked foreigners - white or black - it doesn’t matter, our ruling class mocked its own people.

        Quote: Down House
        Insolent lies!
        It’s a lie because in fact, our serfdom cannot be considered an analogue of their slavery, and even a lie because in fact no one at us mocked anyone.

        Of course, the master never mocked the serfs. Sometimes it’s just a whip for faults, a little whipped at the stable with lashes and cats (this is such a lash with iron hooks), sometimes - to death, but it's all trifles. Serfs were sold, mortgaged, lost, small children were separated from their parents, etc.
        Remember Chatsky’s monologue?
        "... That Nestor of the noble villains,
        In a crowd surrounded by servants;
        By persevering, they are at the time of wine and fights
        And his honor and his life more than once saved: suddenly
        He traded three dogs for them !!!
        Or there’s one that’s for business
        At the fortress ballet was driven off on many waggons
        From mothers, fathers of detached children ?!
        Himself immersed in the mind in Zephyrs and Cupids,
        Made the whole of Moscow marvel at their beauty!
        But the debtors did not agree to the postponement:
        Cupids and Zephyrs are all Sold out one by one !!! "

        Have you read M. Gorky? And A. Chekhov about Vanka Zhukov? Maybe this is all a blatant lie? Did N. Gogol also invent everything in Dead Souls?
        Hm, yes, or I already have age insanity, or, well, I don’t understand.
        1. bastard
          bastard 22 November 2015 11: 54
          +4
          Quote: villain
          Hm, yes, or I already have age insanity, or, well, I don’t understand.

          Let's go to Wiki: "corporal punishment", section - Russia (with small abbreviations).

          "The military regulations of Peter I provided for: walking on wooden stakes, branding with iron, cutting off ears, cutting off a hand or fingers, cutting off a tongue, pulling out nostrils, beating with batogs, gauntlets, whipping, whipping, and rods.

          Gradually, nobles, Christian and Islamic clergy, honorary citizens, merchants of the first and second guilds, some officials, as well as their wives and children, were released from corporal punishment.

          Nostril cutting was used until 1817, branding - until 1863.

          The most severe form of corporal punishment was whipping, which was used until 1845. After that, only punishment with lashes, gauntlets and rods remained.

          The punishment with gauntlets (passage through the ranks) was intended for soldiers, but sometimes it extended to persons who did not belong to the army.

          Punishment as a form of criminal punishment until the 1716th century was assigned only to minors and was considered as a major mitigation of punishment, which, as the Military Statute of 1845 put it, in such cases is "diminished or very abandoned." The code of 50 put the rods in second place after the lashes, in the amount of 100-XNUMX strokes. When serfdom existed, the rods were also the usual punishment imposed by landowners on serfs; rods were used and with all kinds of pacification of unrest, finally, they constituted the usual pedagogical means of influencing pupils of secondary schools, especially in theological seminaries.

          By law of April 17, 1863, corporal punishment was abolished as a measure of criminal punishment (with the exception of sentences for remand prisoners).

          In 1864, the "Decree on the Exemption from Corporal Punishment of Secondary School Students" appeared.

          In 1893, corporal punishment for women was abolished.

          By the beginning of the XNUMXth century, the following types of corporal punishment remained in the Russian Empire:

          1) rods: as punishments for peasants by sentences of volost courts, vagabonds and exiles, and as a corrective measure for craft students;
          2) lashes for convicts and settlers.
          On June 12, 1903, lash sentences for hard labor and exiles were abolished.

          On August 11, 1904 corporal punishment was abolished for peasants and minors.

          On June 30, 1904 corporal punishment in the army and navy was abolished.

          Until 1917, corporal punishment (rods) was used in accordance with the law only as a disciplinary punishment in prisons. However, during the First World War in 1915, spanking of soldiers with rods was reintroduced as a disciplinary punishment. "

          Like this! My regards! hi
          1. Down House
            Down House 22 November 2015 15: 43
            +2
            Quote: villain
            "The military regulations of Peter I provided for:

            Military regulations of many countries provided, and so what?
            Quote: villain
            By the beginning of the XNUMXth century, the following types of corporal punishment remained in the Russian Empire:

            And for example, in Singapore they have survived to this day, as a result, one of the cleanest and most prosperous countries in the world - so you can minus it, but when I see, for example, a drunk man screams at night and hits bottles on the asphalt - I start to regret that we not in singapore.
            1. bastard
              bastard 22 November 2015 17: 02
              0
              Quote: Down House
              Military regulations of many countries provided, and so what?

              Nothing. This is from Wiki, I pointed out.
              Quote: Down House
              therefore you can minus

              I won’t, because I don’t like it. I pass only frank boors and not always, I do not see any reason to attribute you to such. hi
              Quote: Down House
              when I see, for example, a drunken man yelling obscenely at night and hits bottles on the asphalt - I begin to regret that we are not in Singapore.

              I agree. Unfortunately, there are some among people who do not understand another language, how to get in a nickle. They are a minority, but they are in full view because of a torn throat and bad education.
          2. V.ic
            V.ic 22 November 2015 16: 33
            0
            Quote: villain
            "The military regulations of Peter I provided for

            So you have recognized by whom the Western cruelty was introduced in Russia. "Where do the legs grow from" ... Naturally from the ".opa" of Pyotr Alekseevich Romanov. Further enumeration of the abominations introduced into circulation by this "tsar-antichrist", as well as their cancellation, have no legal force in relation to Russia. Dixi.
            1. bastard
              bastard 22 November 2015 16: 42
              0
              Quote: V.ic
              So you have recognized by whom the Western cruelty was introduced in Russia. "Where do the legs grow from" ... Naturally from the ".opa" of Pyotr Alekseevich Romanov.

              Sorry, I didn’t admit it, a quote from Wikipedia, I pointed it out a little above the comment.
              1. V.ic
                V.ic 22 November 2015 18: 06
                0
                Quote: villain
                not i admitted quote from wikipediaI pointed it out

                It is quite liberal source of information written by liberals for libermans.
        2. Down House
          Down House 22 November 2015 15: 36
          0
          Quote: villain
          Sometimes it’s just a whip for faults, a little whipped at the stable with lashes and cats (this is such a lash with iron hooks), sometimes - to death, but it's all trifles.

          But these are all rarities.
          Quote: villain
          Remember Chatsky’s monologue?

          Remember the movie "Voroshilov shooter"? This is fictional fiction, but it is possible - but what is the likelihood of such a possibility? How often does this happen? How often classmates are raped in Russia?
          And what are the statistics on the punishment-killings of serfs ?!
          1. bastard
            bastard 22 November 2015 16: 14
            +2
            Quote: Down House
            Quote: villain
            Sometimes it’s just a whip for faults, a little whipped at the stable with lashes and cats (this is such a lash with iron hooks), sometimes - to death, but it's all trifles.

            But these are all rarities.

            Yeah, rarities. It came to the revolution. Type in the search for the book "Damned Soviet Power", the author is one of the participants in the "Military Review". There from the very beginning there are the details that interest you.
            Quote: Down House
            Remember Chatsky’s monologue?

            Remember the movie "Voroshilov shooter"? This is fictional fiction, but it is possible - but what is the likelihood of such a possibility? How often does this happen? How often classmates are raped in Russia?

            In the 90s, there lived a young gangster in our house, he practiced such things as a scumbag. They shot him not far from the house in the forest (we live on the outskirts), the whole store was planted from the PM. I'm not sorry, he was about 25 years old. Oranges will not be born from aspen. The case is special, but it was, I think, in other places.
            Quote: Down House
            And what are the statistics on the punishment-killings of serfs ?!

            I don’t know. Look on the web.
            In addition to the topic: serfs were legally considered the property of boyars, landowners and other nobility, like a stool or a rocker. The statistics could not take into account both the broken furniture and the killed serfs, and in the presence of the phenomenon of the "dead souls" mentioned by the classic of Russian literature, it was somewhat difficult to keep an objective record, like me caazza.
            1. Down House
              Down House 22 November 2015 17: 05
              0
              Quote: villain
              Yeah, rarities. Before the revolution came.

              There is no connection between the revolutions and the abolition of the Communist Party for half a century and several Emperors.
              And riots in modern democracies are even more common than in RI fellow
              Quote: villain
              The case is special, but it was, I think, in other places.

              It was. But rarely and not for long, which is what we are talking about.
              Quote: villain
              serfs were considered by law the property of the boyars, landlords and other nobles, like a stool or rocker.

              Yeah, rocker laughing
              The bulk of the landowners, God forbid, had a couple of dozen peasants at the best, who at the same time fed his entire family and whom he also had to leave the children - in this case, even the last misanthrope will take care of his "rocker arms".
              And besides, the peasants were not all saints either, why do you think that if they were punished, it was necessary for "just like that"?
              1. bastard
                bastard 22 November 2015 19: 06
                +1
                Quote: Down House
                The bulk of the landowners, God forbid, had a couple of dozen peasants at the best, who at the same time fed his entire family and whom he also had to leave the children - in this case, even the last misanthrope will take care of his "rocker arms".

                And so it was. Anyway. I love the work of I. A. Krylov, I recommend reading the following works:

                "Mail of spirits"
                http://az.lib.ru/k/krylow_i_a/text_0240.shtml

                "A speech of praise in memory of my grandfather, given by his friend in the presence of his friends over a bowl of punch"
                http://az.lib.ru/k/krylow_i_a/text_0160.shtml

                "Kaib"
                http://az.lib.ru/k/krylow_i_a/text_0120.shtml

                V. Lukin presented the habits and Western worship of the nobility in a very interesting way in the play "The Scribbler".
                http://az.lib.ru/l/lukin_w_i/text_0050.shtml

                I’ll finish, perhaps. Otherwise, I will not fit into the framework of the comment.
                Have a good time! I’m not joking, get a lot of pleasure if, suddenly, you didn’t read it. hi
      2. traveler
        traveler 22 November 2015 16: 57
        +2
        Quote: Down House
        the institution of taxation has nothing to do with slavery

        slaves / serfs from this is not easier
        1. Down House
          Down House 22 November 2015 17: 12
          0
          Quote: traveler
          slaves / serfs from this is not easier

          I don’t know who is there and what makes it easier, but the institute of taxable estates has not gone away de facto.
          And I do not think that any employee of a Korean-Japanese corporation with a lifetime employment contract, or some European "manager" with a lifetime mortgage is de facto free.
          1. forwarder
            forwarder 24 November 2015 20: 12
            0
            Quote: Down House
            And I do not think that any employee of a Korean-Japanese corporation with a lifetime employment contract, or some European "manager" with a lifetime mortgage is de facto free.

            You would, my friend, read the Bolshevik newspapers less. At breakfast. And especially about the terrible mortgage in the west. Under a ridiculous, purely symbolic percentage. But then giving the right to momentary introduction and residence.
            And eastern confidence in the future (you call it a "life-long employment contract") is actually worth a lot.
            So do not read. Do not.
    2. forwarder
      forwarder 24 November 2015 20: 04
      -1
      Quote: traveler
      in my opinion one date - March 5, 1861 - certainly deserves to be nationwide

      Would deserve. If not for other, later dates. Returning everything to normal.
  11. erased
    erased 22 November 2015 10: 37
    +6
    So white slaves are now there. Judging by the salaries of state employees in Russia, they are definitely on the position of slaves. But all sorts of top managers, managers, office plankton grandmothers have noble. A highly professional worker (turner, milling machine operator, mechanic) should not receive 15-20 pieces per month. He creates rockets, ships, machine tools, planes, equipment. And if you get ... then the price to such a leadership of both the enterprise and the ministry and the country is worthless.
    The Vostochny Cosmodrome gave an example of how workers are paid and how management steals. But this is just one object out of many.
    1. Glot
      Glot 22 November 2015 11: 06
      +2
      So white slaves are now there. Judging by the salaries of state employees in Russia, they are definitely on the position of slaves. But all sorts of top managers, managers, office plankton grandmothers have noble. A highly professional worker (turner, milling machine operator, mechanic) should not receive 15-20 pieces per month. He creates rockets, ships, machine tools, planes, equipment. And if you get ... then the price to such a leadership of both the enterprise and the ministry and the country is worthless.
      The Vostochny Cosmodrome gave an example of how workers are paid and how management steals. But this is just one object out of many.


      It depends on what state employees. Many live very well.
      However, if the locksmith / turner receiving well. The truth is very infrequent.
      And in general, yes, buy / sell managers have good money. What can you do if we have been moving along the "buy / sell" path for a long time.
    2. Down House
      Down House 22 November 2015 15: 45
      -1
      Quote: erased
      Should not be a highly professional worker

      First of all, no worker should get more engineer in any case - but sometimes they get it, so you should complain to the workers!
      As for the "managers", naturally they have a lordly income and this is absolutely natural.
    3. forwarder
      forwarder 24 November 2015 19: 59
      -1
      Quote: erased
      A highly professional worker (turner, milling machine operator, mechanic) should not receive 15-20 pieces per month. He creates rockets, ships, machine tools, planes, equipment.

      He does not create anything. And can’t create. Therefore, the price of his work is a penny. That's exactly what he should receive. Compared to the labor ruble of an engineer.
  12. Basil50
    Basil50 22 November 2015 11: 24
    0
    So what? Ardent fans of * Western values ​​* know all this and still nothing is nicer for them, because * there * they have honor and respect, and most importantly they pay well. To justify their renegacy, they will say a lot of words and everyone on different topics and about their rights will be surely remembered. Interestingly, they enjoy rights here, and they serve * western * interests, and taxes from * fodder * are not paid here. In general, they do not get a civilian way of life, they just do not want to give up their rights and loudly declare them.
    1. Basil50
      Basil50 22 November 2015 20: 59
      0
      That's it, and the cons have gone. No one in the * West * ever recognizes the source of well-being. Neither the slave trade, nor colonial robberies, nor betrayal and enrichment at the expense of Nazi gold will ever be condemned. And our homegrown * democrats * and other admirers of * Western values ​​* also never dare to remember the income sources of benefactors, they themselves feed on the bounty of benefactors.
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  13. cergey51046
    cergey51046 22 November 2015 11: 44
    +3
    And these ... (not good people) teach others to live.
  14. Victor1
    Victor1 22 November 2015 12: 01
    +3
    This article is useful, especially for those whose saliva flows to Western capitalist and European values. The story does not change these villains give free rein, they will do such inhuman troubles ..
    And now people want to roll into the swamp that was before, there is a process of erasing history, destroying national characteristics, culture, dulling the masses, mixing races, because brainless biomass is easier to manage and no one will ask questions.
  15. pan_nor
    pan_nor 22 November 2015 12: 14
    0
    Quote: istoler
    Dead books are not written.

    Reread Captain Blood's Odyssey
    1. istoler
      istoler 22 November 2015 13: 29
      0
      In the sense of ?
      I read it for a long time, but honestly, almost forgot everything.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 22 November 2015 16: 40
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        Quote: istoler
        I read it for a long time, but honestly, almost forgot everything.

        And what are you saying! Even a television movie on TV was played several times ...
    2. V.ic
      V.ic 22 November 2015 16: 38
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      Quote: pan_nor
      pan_nor
      Quote: istoler
      Dead books are not written.
      Reread Captain Blood's Odyssey

      So Rafael Sabatini wrote, quite a living person.
      1. istoler
        istoler 22 November 2015 19: 40
        +2
        Sabatini may not write, but what the aborigines of New Zealand or the exterminated tribes in Australia or the exterminated tribes of the Indians of North America did not find in them Sabatini. crying But this is the sum of dozens (!) Of peoples.
        1. Basil50
          Basil50 22 November 2015 21: 37
          +1
          Sabatini was of Italian blood.
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  16. forumow
    forumow 22 November 2015 12: 57
    +1
    But what to say about the attitude of impudent people towards other peoples, remember their own genocide! The story about how "the sheep ate people" - purely for the sake of stuffing the bag. What else can we talk about after that ?!
  17. varangian
    varangian 22 November 2015 14: 02
    +3
    The Irish have always rebelled.
    They have not forgotten and will not forget.
    One day they’ll wait for the right moment
  18. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 22 November 2015 15: 38
    +2
    Well, then the Irish "played back" in full.

    22 presidents have Irish roots.
    The most famous, of course, are John F. Kennedy and Bill Clinton.
    But Roosevelt, Nixon, Reagan, and both Bushes have Irish blood.

    Wiki: List of American politicians of Irish descent
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 22 November 2015 16: 43
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      Quote: voyaka uh
      Well, then the Irish "played back" in full.

      Come on, come on, in more detail about how mattress preziks with "Irish" roots on the former offenders of their homeland played out in full?
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 22 November 2015 17: 34
        +2
        Britain was forced to ask them for military and economic assistance.
        in the 1st and 2nd World Wars.
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 22 November 2015 18: 40
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          Quote: voyaka uh
          Britain was forced to ask them for military and economic assistance.
          in the 1st and 2nd World Wars.

          What do you say? As for the economic aid to the Britons during WW1, this is thanks to the Kaiser, and what about the military and economic aid to the Britons during WW2, it is a special thanks to the regime of Adolf Aloizovich. That in the first, that in the second case, the Rockefellers pulled their eyes on ... the Rothschilds, and the nationality and sexual preferences of the "head of the Fashington Regional Committee" - this is the tenth thing. Your argument is not dancing. During the implementation of the Aphrodite project, on August 12, 1944, the elder brother of the future US President Joseph Patrick Kennedy Jr. died.
  19. Nicola Bari
    Nicola Bari 22 November 2015 19: 47
    +1
    . Moral. I am sure that soon this will appear in our history textbooks, but it should.
  20. Kim Klimov
    Kim Klimov 22 November 2015 23: 28
    +1
    This once again shows that meanness, treachery and cruelty, are in the blood of the Anglo-Saxons.
  21. Truth-lovers
    Truth-lovers 23 November 2015 00: 47
    +2
    About how the West has everything “wonderful” - only lazy has not said. So wonderful that even a new reconquest is vital.
    The author is a little uneducated and a bit dull, but this is nothing, it is being treated. For reference - ReConquista is "Reconstruction" - ie. the Spaniards conquered their land from the Moors; a direct analogue is the same as how the Russians conquered the territory of Russia from the Golden Horde and its fragments. Is this a bad process ???

    And we will not even remember about the knife, which was planted in the back of Byzantium by the western “allies” ... let's turn to matters less distant and not so old ...
    1. Byzantium managed to betray the Crusaders THREE TIMES and arrange TWO general pogroms of Italian citizens THREE TIMES. 12. The participants of the Fourth Crusade were generally excommunicated, for reference, they were actually the usual mercenary army of Venice.

    Quote: Tatiana
    But the propaganda "mess" of the Irish against the British "brew" is possible!
    Why does everyone forget about the bloody civil war in Northern Ireland, which barely subsided for the last 20 years ...

    Quote: Down House
    It’s a lie because, in fact, our serfdom cannot be considered an analogue of their slavery, and even a lie because in reality no one mocked anyone.

    You have already been answered before, but I will add - serfdom is worse and shameful, because there are others bought, and here OWN - and in the position of slaves.

    Just a small example: find out the primordial meaning of "hay girl" for the master for what was ...

    Quote: istoler
    what the Aborigines of New Zealand wrote or the exterminated tribes in Australia or the exterminated tribes of the Indians of North America did not have Sabatini

    1). Aborigines of New Zealand what is the matter with them? In general, Māori live and live perfectly! Do not read books or just uneducated, sir?

    2). What are the exterminated tribes in Australia? For your information, they feel great there, they are specially protected from the "benefits" of civilization so that they do not get drunk and go crazy. And a simple black Australian gets TEN TIMES MORE than an average Russian just like that every month from the Australian government - JUST FOR THE USE OF HIS LAND. Didn't know for sure? And an ordinary Russian does not receive a RUBLE FOR USE OF THE MINES OF HIS COUNTRY.
  22. Black Colonel
    Black Colonel 23 November 2015 11: 57
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    What about the O'Hara family from Gone With the Wind? The Irish do. Or was the novel adjusted for the absence of a slavery in America?
  23. forwarder
    forwarder 24 November 2015 19: 55
    -1
    Few know that America also knew white slaves.

    But Russia knew mostly white slaves. And he knows.