Military Review

In thought about: “Is Military Review“ worthy of state funding ... ”

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It is not a secret for any of our regular readers that the informational and analytical portal “Military Review” is a project that exists only because of the profits from the sale of advertising on the pages of the site. Many of our readers, who, apparently, believe that if the Military Review is consciously trying to bend the patriotic line, it literally bathes in public funding, the presence of advertising on the site is annoying. We declare with all responsibility: friends, it turns out that advertising on “VO” is the only means that allows the portal to keep afloat, and if the site, like many, for obvious reasons, would like to be cleansed of advertising content on current conditions, then, sorry, the days of "BO" will be numbered.


As they say, I don’t want to be sad, but we believe that our readers, who pay great attention to the site, simply by definition should be aware of the events related to the self-financing of the Military Review. Indeed, quite often administrators, authors and moderators of the project are confronted with reader letters in which individual users suddenly report that, they say, everything is clear - “the meaning of the materials is such that the hand of the Kremlin or the special services is clearly visible”. Like, "IN" is fed from the state feeder. And if you raise all such messages, you can make a whole list of assumptions about who exactly “VO” is “financed”: from the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the presidential administration to Vladimir Putin personally (apparently, from his salary). Experienced conspiracy experts believe that if the VO server is located outside the Russian Federation, this is an extremely secret sign that either “freemasons” or “court intriguers” had a hand in registering. But here, too, disappointment for conspiracy therapists: would be happy to keep all the information at home (it would be simply more reliable), but at home, as it turns out, it is trite more expensive, and significantly, and “VO” is not a media empire to make a choice aside more expensive "work.

Our reader, who understands all this perfectly, may now ask himself: why does the author write all this?

And the author writes for one simple reason. The administration and the team have an idea that, I hope, will find its embodiment as well as the response from the state structures.

We worked, you know, we worked and thought, well, than VO as a mass media is worse than many projects that could get at least symbolic state financing for further development. If we are “accused” of the fact that many materials published on the site correlate with the state position, have a completely outlined patriotic character, and are often aimed at the implementation of the project of the very “soft power” that is often spoken about lately, why not try your luck ...

What was, if I may say so, the main impulse for the very emergence of an idea to turn to government agencies with a “petition”? Firstly, the fact that in the present conditions of “developed capitalism” it is difficult to develop in the niche that our media occupy, solely on the publication of advertisements. Secondly, the fact that the logic of financing media by state institutions is not entirely clear.

Yes, on Online The Federal Agency for Press and Mass Communications tells about the priorities for obtaining state funding, determined by the following criteria: publication of socially significant projects about the Great Patriotic War, about Russian naval commanders (F. Ushakov), commanders, designers (A. Tupolev) and developers weapons different eras. In addition, they talk about materials and projects that are aimed at the adaptation of the disabled, citizens of retirement age, etc.

The Ministry of the Press lists the media that have received the so-called state subsidy for the current year. The list includes more than a hundred publications, including both major projects like “Arguments and Facts”, “Moskovsky Komsomolets”, “Nezavisimaya Gazeta” and “Komsomolskaya Pravda”, as well as low-circulation publications - for example, the newspaper from the Arkhangelsk region “Babyniye Harassment”, “Flax Production” »From Pskov.

In the list of state-funded there are very interesting resources and publications. For example, the newspaper "Pskov Province", which received a subsidy, reportedly to prepare materials from the series "Postwar Pskov through the Eyes of Children of War". Learning about the life of the children of post-war Pskov is, of course, wonderful, but the Pskov Gubernia publication has recently (if, of course, the very same edition) been widely known due to the publication of completely different materials. For example, materials about whole companies of “buried” Pskov paratroopers “killed in Ukraine” or that the authors of “PG” are concerned about the discontent that Russian citizens express to the representatives of the “fifth column”. In general, if there are two publications in Pskov with the same name, then the direction of government funding to one of them can still be explained, but if we are talking about the newspaper that has become the mouthpiece of more “friends” of Russia than of Russia itself, then the questions ... questions ...

The “Nezavisimaya Gazeta” mentioned receives state financing for the “NG-Exlibris” project. "Modern classic". But far from this project, the Independent is famous among the masses. Much more actively, the publication puts pressure on materials devoted to what can hardly be called at least somehow responding to the system of state interests. So, in a recent article "Independent" Russia’s claim that Assad, the legitimate president of Syria, is said to be “crafty and unconvincing.”

Well, God bless him with Assad, because there is generally what is called cognitive dissonance: if the newspaper calls itself “Independent”, then what kind of state financing can we talk about? And vice versa: if there is state financing, then the newspaper is definitely not “Independent” ...

If any of our readers thought that the VO team was going to “go on a white horse” by pouring mud at other publications, then this opinion is wrong. Examples are given with one goal: to demonstrate the work of our liberal "colleagues" who are ready to openly brains representatives of state power to receive state support. It turns out that in order to receive state financing in our country, some media are sufficient to prepare at least one, forgive, a small project in the style of “Children is our everything” or “War is worse than peace”, and conduct all other activities as interesting to “friends of Russia - cookiemakers ".

If we talk about the actual public funding through Gazprom-Mediathere are many “patriotic” projects here, starting from TNT and ending with the Echo of Moscow radio station. No, if humor is "below the belt" or the sabbath of an ultra-liberal party, according to the leader of which Russia's population is 8 million people, this is also the "soft power" of modern Russia, then everything is clear ... It is not clear where Russia is with such "soft power" eventually will come. It is unclear because slogans about the need to form a complete system of civil and patriotic education of children and young people come from the high tribunes, but at the same time, the government segments manage to finance channels and other media, where civil and patriotic education is reduced to the not always икpicked three-story mate on the air some “House-2” or to the ugly Russophobic gnat in the air of the next political talk show of the aforementioned Moscow radio station.

In thought about: “Is Military Review“ worthy of state funding ... ”


Yes, “VO” does not pretend to “whiteness and fluffiness”; in no case does it attempt to insert sticks into the wheels of freedom of the media, freedom of speech. “VO” is simply trying to understand the logic of state financing, and hopes that the work of the administrative and copyright team of the information portal will deserve attention for state support.

It would be desirable to hope that the idea of ​​the collective “VO”, connected with the possible receipt of state financing, will first find approval among our readers. We are looking forward to your comments on this issue, because, including on the basis of your opinion, a final decision will be made on a regulated appeal to government agencies, followed by a report to the reading team.
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  1. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 18 November 2015 05: 50 New
    110
    I vote for.
    1. Babr
      Babr 18 November 2015 06: 13 New
      70
      "Author Team" VO "
      Proposal to the VO team. And let's do it together so that Russia becomes a truly people's state. The problem of subsidies will disappear immediately.
      And it will not be necessary to beg for handouts. Our people are generous. fellow
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 18 November 2015 06: 14 New
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        Quote: Babr
        And let's do it together so that Russia becomes a truly people's state.

        Revolution again? recourse
        1. Babr
          Babr 18 November 2015 06: 29 New
          15
          Quote: Ruslan67
          Revolution again?

          What revolution? Everyday focused work.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 06: 34 New
            +9
            Quote: Babr
            Everyday focused work.

            Like in ukraine wink Down with the oligarchs and thieves
            1. inkass_98
              inkass_98 18 November 2015 06: 50 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Down with the oligarchs and thieves


              Yeah, PZHIV already passed. Interestingly, and what better wrestlers with PZHIV, other sponsors?
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 07: 04 New
                +1
                Quote: inkass_98
                and what is better wrestlers with PZHIV, other sponsors?

                No, it’s just that the wrestlers are calling to follow the ALIEN hands while they steal with their crooks. laughing
                1. Baikal
                  Baikal 18 November 2015 09: 43 New
                  57
                  Dear Editor!
                  Why not make a button on the site "SUPPORT IN" with the subsequent deduction of a certain amount in your favor? Many projects in the world exist on the principle of user support. I am sure that there would be enough readers who would support you.
                  Agree, it’s logical to get support from your audience, which appreciates and respects your work good
                  1. theadenter
                    theadenter 18 November 2015 12: 45 New
                    +3
                    And as an incentive - to remove, for financially supportive, user ads for a month, for example.
                    1. Temples
                      Temples 18 November 2015 13: 12 New
                      26
                      Government funding will not stop you.
                      If you do not ask, then you will not receive.
                      So you need to ask, there is nothing wrong with that.
                      And thank you for the work !!! hi
                      1. severniy
                        severniy 19 November 2015 19: 37 New
                        0
                        Quote: Temples
                        Government funding will not stop you.
                        If you do not ask, then you will not receive.
                        So you need to ask, there is nothing wrong with that.
                        And thank you for the work !!! hi

                        I agree .., look, but find out ..., a fraction of the cake from the media pie you in any case have earned!
                      2. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 19 November 2015 22: 07 New
                        +4
                        Is "Voennoye Obozreniye" worthy of state funding ...
                        Of course, worthy! But it’s important not to lose your own thinking freedom!
                        Yes, so that the entrepreneurial business should not be chopped off by the officials and transferred to other personal hands! And indeed they wouldn’t let VO get on the brakes, or they wouldn’t completely shut VO down!
                        Such cases, when the "patronage" of state officials is connected, often happens with truly independent, amateur publications!
                    2. Akuzenka
                      Akuzenka 20 November 2015 22: 33 New
                      +1
                      Generally strange. Shoigu himself was published here! But he didn’t give the money. Very strange. Where does the guarantor look?
                    3. TanyaKar
                      TanyaKar 22 November 2015 03: 44 New
                      0
                      I fully support Khramov.
                      The VO team, can you collect some serious signatures in support of state financing?
                      What do you yourself think about this?
                      Without pre-decoration, I can say that you are revered not only in Russia. You publish on your pages very interesting articles, cat. I copy (some) and send for reading to Italy to my good friend. She reads, translates and conveys thoughts and articles from Russia to her Italian friends.
                      Write to whom to contact and we all kinds of "veterans" will write a collective letter.
                      Best regards
                      TanyaKar.
                  2. Baikal
                    Baikal 18 November 2015 13: 46 New
                    +4
                    Quote: theadenter
                    And as an incentive - to remove, for financially supportive, user ads for a month, for example.

                    Great bun, in my opinion.
                    Yes, and configure the payment to automatically deduct at least a couple of hundred rubles / month - a minute deal wink
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                    2. GAF
                      GAF 18 November 2015 15: 58 New
                      +9
                      Sorry for the violation of subordination comrade. Marshal Baikal and for bursting to the top of the comments. A couple of hundred is not a problem even for a pensioner. "With the world on a string ...". The problem is not that, but that for some reason, for example, Gazovichok, according to Argumenty i Fakty, could afford a few years ago to buy out the right to display the notorious Comedy Club on TNT for an amount equal to about 7 8% of the budgetary expenditures planned for that year for all culture in Russia. I was not too lazy then to clarify. And I was not at all funny from such humor.
                    3. Baikal
                      Baikal 18 November 2015 20: 49 New
                      +3
                      You are right, comrade sergeant, but that "gas worker", otherwise we are with you wink
                      The point is that WE TOGETHER can really support the project that is really needed, in contrast to the ass-toilet "humor" of the comedy club.
                    4. GAF
                      GAF 18 November 2015 21: 30 New
                      +2
                      It may be more effective than our monetary assistance (there will not be much of it anyway), there will be something like a collective message "to the village of grandfather" from us in support of VO for state funding. Think marshals are strategists. Grantoedy with their small-grained temkas bloom and smell offensively wherever a budget tap drips. They got restless everywhere. Not only in the media.
                    5. CTEPX
                      CTEPX 19 November 2015 02: 57 New
                      +1
                      Quote: GAF
                      Grant-eaters with their shallow-flowered Temki bloom and foul-smelling fragrances wherever a budget faucet drips.

                      Perhaps you should give VO the status of a non-profit association (NPO) with legal registration and its Charter.
            2. Altona
              Altona 18 November 2015 20: 32 New
              +4
              Quote: theadenter
              And as an incentive - to remove, for financially supportive, user ads for a month, for example.

              ---------------------
              Advertising on this site does not bother me, the main thing is that the text does not fall out ... The rest do not care ..
            3. Kassik
              Kassik 18 November 2015 23: 32 New
              +2
              Not suitable as an incentive ... There are "a million" applications that block ads on websites ... :)
              1. theadenter
                theadenter 19 November 2015 13: 01 New
                +1
                Before you turn on these applications, you need to remember how this site generally holds. The thing is, with a clear conscience you will be blocked by advertising.
          2. Nikoha.2010
            Nikoha.2010 18 November 2015 19: 31 New
            +8
            Quote: Baikal
            Agree, it’s logical to get support from your audience, which appreciates and respects your work good

            I agree! It is faster to get support from the members of the forum than from the government. Yes, and you will be free (IN). By the way, advertising almost does not annoy me, and I don’t remember that it interested me in anything. IMHO!
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            2. ZU-23
              ZU-23 18 November 2015 19: 39 New
              +6
              The VO resource definitely deserves the support of state funding, I will root for you the Lord.
            3. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 18 November 2015 20: 16 New
              +2
              Quote: Nikoha.2010
              By the way, advertising almost does not annoy me, and I don’t remember that it interested me in anything.

              Set yourself a filter in the browser extension and there will be no ads at all! yes
              1. theadenter
                theadenter 18 November 2015 21: 28 New
                +1
                If you block ads, the advertiser will not receive impressions, and BO will receive less money for advertising.
          3. edge
            edge 19 November 2015 15: 12 New
            +1
            Quote: Baikal
            I am sure that there would be enough readers who would support you.

            I agree with this idea, and soon Facebook, and classmates, and ... will ask for state finances, and we will pay taxes. Moreover, questions arise, who are the founders, the legal entity, why the means of accumulating information are in Gerania, and not in Russia .....?
    2. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 06: 52 New
      30
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Like in ukraine wink Down with the oligarchs and thieves

      Why is it so primitive to step on the same rake once again?



      Our task is to nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, subsoil and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. Return the state’s monopoly on foreign trade, prohibit the free movement of capital across the border. Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.
      Welcome http://referendumrusnod.ru/
      1. atalef
        atalef 18 November 2015 06: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Our task is to nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, mineral resources and other natural resources.

        Earth - to the peasants, factories - to the workers, NEDRA - IN !!!
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 18 November 2015 07: 12 New
          24
          Quote: atalef
          Land - to peasants, factories - to workers

          Forgot to add: ... water to sailors.
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 18 November 2015 11: 18 New
            +1
            Quote: V.ic
            Forgot to add: ... water to sailors.

            aah I didn’t read it !!! laughing
          2. Insurgent LC
            Insurgent LC 18 November 2015 16: 04 New
            +2
            and air to whom
            1. V.ic
              V.ic 18 November 2015 19: 39 New
              0
              Quote: LPR Insurgent
              and air to whom

              ... and from which input / exhaust? Does the oxygen percentage at the input (for you) matter?
        2. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 07: 43 New
          +4
          Quote: atalef
          Earth - to the peasants, factories - to the workers, NEDRA - IN !!!

          As history has shown, they threw everyone.
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 18 November 2015 08: 16 New
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            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            As history has shown, they threw everyone.

            ... in the 90s of the last century, and it was precisely those who shouted the loudest about tolerance, tore off their shirt for dermocracy and promised to get on the rails if the welfare of the "racial" people decreased.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 08: 23 New
              +1
              Quote: V.ic
              tore his shirt for dermocracy and promised to lie on the rails

              What is it ??? laughing
              When will people start to distinguish "ad" from "content"? smile
              1. jjj
                jjj 18 November 2015 11: 20 New
                +6
                For the ruble received from the state it is very often necessary to give two. This is a whole system. The inspectors find a violation with the recipient of state money and demand a refund, plus penalties in the amount of funds received
              2. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 16: 28 New
                +1
                Quote: jjj
                The inspectors find a violation with the recipient of state money and demand a refund, plus penalties in the amount of funds received

                Tell us more about receiving money from the state, pzhlst.
            2. V.ic
              V.ic 18 November 2015 11: 31 New
              +3
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              When will people start to distinguish "ad" from "content"?

              This is you to the question of what primary: matter or consciousness?
            3. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 16: 25 New
              +1
              Quote: V.ic
              what is primary: matter or consciousness?

              If this is what interests you, then the Triune World. There is not enough measure in your question.
            4. V.ic
              V.ic 18 November 2015 20: 00 New
              0
              If this is what interests you, then

              Not at all! Dodging an answer to a basic question? / set by me // the primacy of matter / consciousness // Let's continue in the direction you proposed:
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Triune world. There is not enough measure in your question.

              The ancient Greek philosopher Protagoras put forward the thesis: "Man is the measure of all things that exist, that they exist, and non-existent, that they do not exist." Do you doubt that I am human? The machine cannot independently ask the main question about the primacy of being ... This is my answer to your question about "measure". So which is primary, matter or consciousness? / From your point of view, of course /.
            5. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 07: 10 New
              +1
              Quote: V.ic
              Not at all! Dodging an answer to a basic question? / set by me // the primacy of matter / consciousness //

              You asked a question as stupid as how stupid the question is - what comes first, heads or tails? Since the coin has a edge, or welt, it is triune. The same thing is with matter and consciousness, which are impossible without MEASURE. Triune Worlduncle.

              Quote: V.ic
              "Man is the measure of all things that exist, that they exist, and nonexistent, that they do not exist."

              What nonsense. smile



              I clearly explained?
            6. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 08: 09 New
              0
              Citizens moderators, be consistent - or remove the ability to insert a video, or stop deleting comments with the inserted video.
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    3. vladkavkaz
      vladkavkaz 18 November 2015 11: 31 New
      +2
      VseDoFeNi
      So you have not yet learned how to do this. laughing
    4. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 19: 06 New
      0
      Quote: vladkavkaz
      VseDoFeNi
      So you have not yet learned how to do this. laughing

      Do you want a plus sign for me? tongue
  • Kunar
    Kunar 18 November 2015 08: 21 New
    +3
    Or maybe the other way around? Workers' land, and factories, peasants? And then they tried the first option. Full crap turned out laughing laughing
  • Good me
    Good me 18 November 2015 08: 52 New
    13
    Quote: VseDoFeNi

    As history has shown, they threw everyone.


    Soviet state, only limited the people, in their unrestrained and daring "Wishlist", returned the "revolutionary whirlwind" to the channel of building a new statehood.
    Would have given, in that period, "will", "land" and so on, in the form in which everything was meant at the beginning, the process of the beginning of the disintegration of the state, with the loss of territories, would not have been able to stop.

    "Thrown" in 1991 ...
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 09: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Good Me
      "Thrown" in 1991 ...

      I here on the 7th of this month of this year wrote in detail ...
    2. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 18 November 2015 09: 18 New
      11
      In thought about: “Is Military Review“ worthy of state funding ... ”

      And here I am thinking: is it possible that VO has not been noticed "at the top" yet? And if it has been noticed, then why hasn't it been offered funding so far? Or is it noticed and only for this reason, now, we are discussing this article?
      1. Dilshat
        Dilshat 18 November 2015 14: 12 New
        0
        If you seek government funding, you will need to switch to the Russian domain. And why are the wrong ones funded? '' Something is wrong here. '' Said Kolobok chewing on Lisa.
      2. mervino2007
        mervino2007 18 November 2015 22: 29 New
        +1
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Or is it noticed and that’s why, now, we are discussing this article?

        Don't be confused. The article appeared because VO and his very solid work have not yet been noticed. This is alarming. VO constantly protects the interests of the state, its armed forces, the defense industry, and is "invisible" (?). I was greatly surprised by the "non-state basis" of the economic life of VO. I just didn't expect it. Such a serious site - and it lives on grazing. He needs to expand his influence on the thoughts of the active part of our, who are interested in the state of defense of their country and people. In this regard, hard-hitting questions arise to the leadership of the department responsible for the distribution of budget money to support our propaganda. In the best sense of the word. But, I understand, in such a difficult budgetary situation, there is no time for expansion and development.
        Hats off to VO employees! You are doing a great job right and, as it turns out, on sheer enthusiasm.
  • IS-80
    IS-80 18 November 2015 08: 10 New
    +2
    Quote: atalef
    NEDRA - IN

    Public finance is the same. hi
  • sherp2015
    sherp2015 18 November 2015 08: 38 New
    -2
    Quote: atalef
    Earth - to the peasants, factories - to the workers, NEDRA - IN !!!



    Already once under these slogans Parvusy-Gelfandy, Trotsky-Bronstein, and your other brothers turned the country over and flooded it with a sea of ​​blood
    1. atalef
      atalef 18 November 2015 12: 31 New
      +3
      Quote: sherp2015
      Quote: atalef
      Earth - to the peasants, factories - to the workers, NEDRA - IN !!!



      Already once under these slogans Parvusy-Gelfandy, Trotsky-Bronstein, and your other brothers turned the country over and flooded it with a sea of ​​blood


      blood to vampires
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      1. V.ic
        V.ic 18 November 2015 14: 47 New
        +5
        Quote: atalef
        blood to vampires

        Still not drunk? Moderate thirst ...
  • shuhartred
    shuhartred 18 November 2015 09: 16 New
    +4
    Quote: atalef
    Earth - to the peasants, factories - to the workers, NEDRA - IN !!!

    In a single Israel. And we'll see what happens. Passed already. belay
  • lelikas
    lelikas 18 November 2015 11: 14 New
    +5
    Quote: atalef
    Earth - to the peasants, factories - to the workers, NEDRA - IN !!!

    Water - Sailors !!!
  • Surozhanin
    Surozhanin 20 November 2015 18: 18 New
    -1
    Sir! It’s not clear to you that the Constitution of the Russian Federation was written in the State Department, and then translated into Russian, however, for Ukraine the same ... Turkey was written in Brussels, only translated into Ukrainian. So, would you subscribe to the referendum on changing the constitution using the link above, or else ... peasants, workers, fie !!!
  • atalef
    atalef 18 November 2015 07: 05 New
    -4
    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.

    turnover is carried out to zero - subject to population information - to zero.
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 07: 10 New
      11
      Quote: atalef
      turnover is carried out to zero - subject to population information - to zero.

      Citizen, this is not about Israel, you can drink too much.
      1. atalef
        atalef 18 November 2015 07: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Quote: atalef
        turnover is carried out to zero - subject to population information - to zero.

        Citizen, this is not about Israel, you can drink too much.

        Peace to you brother drinks
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 18 November 2015 07: 51 New
          +4
          Peace to you brother
          ... RIP ... And you too crying
        2. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 07: 21 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          Peace to you brother drinks

          I have no relatives of Jews. angry
    2. IS-80
      IS-80 18 November 2015 08: 13 New
      16
      Quote: atalef
      turnover is carried out to zero - subject to population information - to zero.

      Hmmm, judging by the photo you went wild there in Israel. But native slogans still remember. laughing
    3. Dilshat
      Dilshat 18 November 2015 14: 22 New
      +2
      Those cigarettes that smoke now and that used to smoke are not even sawdust but synthetics.
      If it goes on like that soon and the products become the same and there will be no natural food. Tell me who does not have x5?
  • BMW
    BMW 18 November 2015 07: 24 New
    23
    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    Our task is to nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, subsoil and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. Return the state’s monopoly on foreign trade, prohibit the free movement of capital across the border. Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.

    Medvedev, Nabiulina, Miller, Siluanov, Gref, etc. - friends of Pu ... Oh! lol
    "There will be no revisions of privatization", "There will be no 37 years" - the words of Pu ... Oops! lol
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 07: 31 New
      +4
      Quote: bmw
      "There will be no revisions of privatization"

      Then the grandmother said in two.

      Quote: bmw
      "37 will not be"

      Are you eager to get repressed?

      “Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.
      And I will repeat it as long as there are those who do not understand this. ”© VseDoFeNi

      And oops ... laughing
      Quote: bmw
      Our price is 864 mp. The rate of 13,17%. Down payment 260 tr. CASCO 30 tr. Credit for three years. Monthly payment 21521 rub.



      Well, just poverty brought to despair !!! laughing
      1. atalef
        atalef 18 November 2015 08: 08 New
        +7
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This means that people have money to overpay and lack of intelligence so as not to overpay. And I will repeat it, as long as there are those who do not understand this. ” © VseDoFeNi

        Say -HALVA a thousand times, it’ll be sweeter in your mouth
        (Eastern wisdom ) hi
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          1. atalef
            atalef 18 November 2015 08: 37 New
            -7
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            According to the World Bank, in 2014, the Russian economy took fifth place in the world ranking. Also, according to a World Bank report, China came out on top with a significant margin, pushing the United States to second place. This event looks particularly noteworthy against the backdrop of Western sanctions introduced in early 2014.


            norway - 25 (place)
            Kuwait - 55
            Liechtenstein - 150
            back to common truth again
            Quote: atalef
            Say -HALVA a thousand times, it won’t be sweeter in your mouth (Eastern wisdom)

            you better give a plate with GDP per capita as an example.
            Waiting for hi
          2. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 09: 12 New
            +8
            Quote: atalef
            you better give a plate with GDP per capita as an example.
            Waiting for hi

            Better with debt per capita. laughing

            When I read textbooks on macroeconomics, I am reminded of a lecture course in psychiatry that I took when I was a medical student in my youth. Most often, I remember a classic type of mental impairment called "paralogical thinking". This is a way of reasoning as in the well-known anecdote: "the box is square, so it contains a round one. Once round, it means orange. Well, if it's orange, then it's an orange!"

            Do not believe? Then I’ll give you a well-known life situation: in one country, for example, a million cubes of industrial wood were produced, a million tons of cast iron were cast and a billion cans of pork stew and condensed milk were rolled up in case of starvation. Suppose all this costs a trillion dollars and makes up the gross national product. After a couple of decades, the GNP of this country increased fivefold. Well, four trillion were made of erotic massages, manicures, pedicures, hair styling and makeup, and another trillion served visitors in strip bars and topless cafes. Cast iron, condensed milk and stew were imported from abroad in wooden crates, which they used instead of wood, which they did not chop or saw themselves. Paid as usual in dollars. They printed a lot of dollars, so that was enough for everyone.

            Are you satisfied with erotic massages in the form of per capita income? laughing
          3. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 18 November 2015 18: 16 New
            +8
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Better with debt per capita.

            Paradox - they have more debts, but we live worse. Maybe it's time to stop lending to them? laughing
          4. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 18: 47 New
            -1
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Paradox - they have more debts, but we live worse.

            Yes, we do not live worse, you think that you live worse, citizens whiners. smile
          5. vladkavkaz
            vladkavkaz 18 November 2015 19: 11 New
            +3
            VseDoFeNi (
            Skrynnik, Pugachev, Yusufov, Sabadash, Gaiser,
            Grigoriev, Vavilov, Malkin, Borodin,
            Kuznetsov, Chernukhin, Sorokin, Bilalovs - the sums of the stolen billions in rubles, they are "not whiners", are they?
            Are these your authorities?
          6. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 18 November 2015 21: 21 New
            +4
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            worse live, citizens whiners

            Z / P in its pure form 12 TR (18 tr - child support) Live on them with your wife on maternity leave, you will also begin to whine. And there is no other job, all niches reduced from VAZ have been hammered. Go to Togliatti Avito, make sure.
            P.S. What is your s \ n? (No need to say where you work, just s / n.)
          7. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 07: 32 New
            0
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            (18t.r - alimony

            Someone besides you should take a puff?

            Quote: Ingvar 72
            And there is no other job, all niches reduced from VAZ have been hammered.

            I have said many times that it is necessary to bring down from the city ...



            We have 11 ha of land per nose, but all crowded in an area of ​​1% occupied by cities. Do not want to think, no one will force. We have a planet of free choice.

            Quote: Ingvar 72
            What is your s \ n?

            I have a pension. wink And that's not the point. The point is the desire or unwillingness to work.
          8. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 19 November 2015 11: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Someone besides you should take a puff?
            Yes, that’s understandable. But also 18t.r. for three - a penny.
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            I have said many times that it is necessary to bring down from the city ...

            I’d love to dump it. But I do not want to live in a dugout, and building a house is expensive.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 18 November 2015 20: 26 New
      +2
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      Paradox - they have more debts, but we live worse.

      Only the cowards give debts
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 18 November 2015 21: 16 New
      +3
      Quote: Stroporez
      Only the cowards give debts

      And we either give them away or forgive them. request
    4. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 19 November 2015 03: 33 New
      +4
      Quote: Stroporez
      Only the cowards give debts

      He smiled .. and they came up with the brakes .. laughing
    5. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 07: 33 New
      -1
      Quote: Stroporez
      Only the cowards give debts

      And you take a loan and do not boldly repay. And do not even dare to pay interest, you are our brave.
    6. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 19 November 2015 10: 37 New
      +2
      Quote: VseDoFeNi
      And you take a loan

      I did not take, I do not take and I will not take loans!
      And if you really don’t have enough, then you will have to expropriate from the expropriators. soldier
    7. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 13: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Stroporez
      I did not take, I do not take and I will not take loans!

      It is commendable.

      Quote: Stroporez
      And if you really don’t have enough, then you will have to expropriate from the expropriators. soldier

      And this is bragging. Ponty s ...
    8. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 13: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Stroporez
      I did not take, I do not take and I will not take loans!

      It is commendable.

      Quote: Stroporez
      And if you really don’t have enough, then you will have to expropriate from the expropriators. soldier

      And this is bragging. Ponty s ...
  • CTEPX
    CTEPX 19 November 2015 03: 13 New
    +1
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Paradox - they have more debts, but we live worse.

    There is no paradox. They have already forgiven their own debts)). It remains only to issue them with a world war.
  • VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 07: 50 New
    0
    Quote: ctepx
    They have already forgiven their own debts)).

    Here is a quote from an article for 2014.
    Isn’t it wise to ask how much public debt payments will increase if interest rates return to normal levels? And what is he like? What if we use the average interest rate on treasury bonds over the past 20 years as it? It is 5,7%, not particularly high by historical standards. Let's calculate: if we pay an average rate of 5,7% on government debt, and not like today, 2,4%, by 2020, interest payments will grow to $ 930 billion. Now, let's compare this amount with how much the Tax Service annually collects income tax. In 2012, it amounted to $ 1,1 trillion. Thus, if rates return to a more normal level, say, of 5,7%, 85% of the total income tax collected will go to debt servicing.

    ELITETRADER.RU http://elitetrader.ru/index.php?newsid=198888


    And given the falling demand ... yes
    Fun times await us. good
    And what fun awaits the countries of the West ... wassat
  • alexej123
    alexej123 18 November 2015 11: 31 New
    +3
    It seems that everything is correct. "Small" "BUT" - The countries you listed with a population dozens of times smaller than Russia, they were practically not emasculated by TWO WORLD WARS, they had no social experiments - both right (90s) and left. In fact, these countries - RANTIE - live on rent, in fact, these countries are without industry. Will the source of rent dry up or fall in price in the long run - AND WHAT WILL BE NEXT?
  • atalef
    atalef 18 November 2015 12: 11 New
    -1
    Quote: alexej123
    It seems that everything is correct. "Small" "BUT" - The countries you listed with a population dozens of times smaller than Russia, they were practically not emasculated by TWO WORLD WARS, they had no social experiments - both right (90s) and left. In fact, these countries - RANTIE - live on rent, in fact, these countries are without industry. Will the source of rent dry up or fall in price in the long run - AND WHAT WILL BE NEXT?

    Nothing, you explain to Fene, otherwise he is trying to prove that in Russia the level of life is higher than in Liechtenstein.
    What will happen next? Well, as always, the death of capitalism, your grandparents were waiting for it.
  • alexej123
    alexej123 18 November 2015 12: 57 New
    13
    No need to be rude in the first place for grandmother and grandfather. My grandfather fought against those who destroyed your grandfathers and grandmothers, and sat in a concentration camp for three years. I am not saying that the standard of living in Russia is higher than theirs. There are a lot of problems in Russia. But the level of tasks is much higher and more voluminous than that of Norway, Kuwait, and especially Liechtenstein. The death of capitalism? Let them live, especially since Russia also has such a model of economy. By the way, SAMA, its very expensive part, provides its defense capability to Russia, and does not wait for handouts from overseas.
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  • VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 16: 35 New
    +1
    Quote: atalef
    that in Russia the level of life is higher than in Liechtenstein.

    I already told you several times that the standard of living and the level of consumption are completely different things. But it doesn’t reach you.
    alexej123 correctly asked what will happen to Liechtenstein when the need for their services disappears in the west?
    It’s just that nothing terrible will happen to Russia, our resources allow us to establish av.Tarkiya.
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  • alicante11
    alicante11 18 November 2015 13: 35 New
    +4
    you better give a plate with GDP per capita as an example.
    Waiting for hi


    Better yet, given the "average temperature in the hospital" between a trolleybus repairman and an oligarch.
  • VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 16: 45 New
    0
    Quote: alicante11
    Better yet, given the "average temperature in the hospital" between a trolleybus repairman and an oligarch.

    Don’t fuss like that. In any country in the world, Rockefellers and others like them have incomes that are not comparable with the income of a locksmith. If you know an example where this is not so, I will be grateful to you. yes
  • alicante11
    alicante11 19 November 2015 13: 02 New
    +3
    If you know an example where this is not so, I will be grateful to you. yes


    There was such a country - the USSR.
  • VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 13: 38 New
    0
    Quote: alicante11
    There was such a country - the USSR.

    It was so true. But in the USSR, the secretary general or other princes had immeasurably more than any locksmith. Do not be fooled.
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  • atalef
    atalef 18 November 2015 08: 08 New
    -1
    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This means that people have money to overpay and lack of intelligence so as not to overpay. And I will repeat it, as long as there are those who do not understand this. ” © VseDoFeNi

    Say -HALVA a thousand times, it’ll be sweeter in your mouth
    (Eastern wisdom ) hi
  • BMW
    BMW 18 November 2015 08: 15 New
    +6
    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    “Today, under Putin, people in Russia live as RICH as they never lived in the foreseeable past. Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.

    Only a not quite sane person will now think about the percentage of overpayment when the ruble is so rapidly getting cheaper.
    Forgot to add that an overpayment of 137 tr will be.
    We believe that the fall in the purchasing power of the ruble amounted to 20% (roughly), as a result, in any case, the gain. This applies to those who are confident in their earnings for three years in advance.
    "It's like putting money in a bank, only they sometimes get robbed, but I don't." (Leon.)
    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    Well, just poverty brought to despair !!!

    And I want, and pricks, and ..... and did not work. crying
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 08: 31 New
      +4
      Quote: bmw
      Forgot to add that an overpayment of 137 tr will be.

      This is a whole fuel tanker truck, which you "voluntarily" give to the usurers who drew your dough ... out of nothing. fool yes good

      Quote: bmw
      And I want, and pricks, and ..... and did not work. crying

      You don’t want it, it is usurer-bankers who want to take loot from them. wassat
      As our ancestors said, there would be a neck, but there would be a collar. wink laughing

      And the funny thing is that you are not even trying to comprehend my words. wink
      1. BMW
        BMW 18 November 2015 08: 45 New
        0
        Quote: VseDoFeNi
        And the funny thing is that you are not even trying to comprehend my words.

        All this is understandable, and for a very long time. Only the current situation is such that you can’t argue with digital figures. More pragmatic to some phenomena should be treated. wink
      2. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 08: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: bmw
        More pragmatic to some phenomena should be treated. wink

        What you do, putting on a clamp. laughing

  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 18 November 2015 09: 30 New
    +6
    “Today, under Putin, people in Russia live so RICH,
    You will probably be surprised, but there are people who have other priorities: conscience, justice. BoHatym for example do not care about the history, culture and traditions of the people
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 09: 47 New
      +3
      Quote: Gardamir
      You will probably be surprised, but there are people who have other priorities: conscience, justice. BoHatym for example do not care about the history, culture and traditions of the people

      Change stereotypes. The rich one who is enough, the one whom you consider Bohaty, in essence, the poor. A rich one who shares with others, and does not row everything for himself.

      1. Gardamir
        Gardamir 18 November 2015 11: 32 New
        +6
        Change stereotypes
        Never! I just had enough in the USSR. And now, my claims to Putin are not financial. I don’t care who he fed there. How can we say that they got up off their knees, if Americanism is everywhere?
      2. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 16: 54 New
        +1
        Quote: Gardamir
        if everywhere is Americanism everywhere?

        Take Windows, at least, for that matter, if you do not like Americanism.
  • dvg79
    dvg79 18 November 2015 10: 08 New
    +8
    Uncheck the flag of the country of social justice - not yours.
  • alicante11
    alicante11 18 November 2015 13: 33 New
    +2
    Vivid evidence of this is the courtyards of Russian cities, clogged with cars, many of which were bought with overpayment on credit. This indicates that people have money to overpay and the lack of intelligence, so as not to overpay.


    Here are just how many of these "hammer" used foreign cars? Not all, of course, but most. Well, so we live under capitalism, one pearl is small, and the other is liquid soup.
    I would not compare the current situation with 90, but not compare with the Soviet era, only in the other direction.
  • mirag2
    mirag2 18 November 2015 07: 55 New
    -5
    "There will be no revisions of privatization", "There will be no 37 years"
    - if we announce the revision of privatization, our entire business, starting with the "innovative" donor of eggs Vekselberg, will withdraw the loot. Moreover, the currency. And we will have everything of our own, but the dollar will cost 400 rubles. I'm not ready to live like in North Korea. This is too much ...
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 08: 04 New
      +6
      Quote: mirag2
      - if we announce the revision of privatization, our entire business, starting with the "innovative" egg donor Vekselberg, will withdraw the loot.

      Once again, and not fragmentarily, but in full. laughing

      Quote: VseDoFeNi
      Our task is to nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, subsoil and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. To return the state monopoly on foreign trade, to prohibit the free movement of capital across the border. Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.
      Welcome http://referendumrusnod.ru/

      They will not withdraw. There everything will be taken away from them one way or another, sooner or later. Putin has warned more than once to "turn back".
    2. BMW
      BMW 18 November 2015 08: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: mirag2
      - if we announce the revision of the privatization of our entire business, starting with the "innovative" donor of eggs Vekselberg, they will withdraw the loot. And currency.

      So "revision" without "37" is impossible, which is a pity.
      1. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 18 November 2015 13: 09 New
        +4
        So "revision" without "37" is impossible, which is a pity.
        You can fall under the distribution yourself, and either neighbors or friends will write a statement on you, often out of envy, and not because you were plotting against the state. laughing
        I recall a case from my past when a neighbor from the entrance wrote complaints to us, even when we were not at home. They told him that they were not at home, and he, I know, but was writing in advance. yes
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  • afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 19 November 2015 03: 30 New
    0
    Quote: bmw
    - friends of Pu ... Oh!

    You to Pu. you will send to Kamchatka .. laughing
  • hydrox
    hydrox 18 November 2015 08: 07 New
    +3
    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.

    If you are going to continue profiling NOD on the basis of SUCH slogans, then congratulations, today you will lose many of your supporters: only a complete fool will overpay for Medvedev’s idiotic offers, the rest will use smuggled tobacco and moonshine.
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 08: 47 New
      +8
      Quote: hydrox
      only a complete fool will overpay for Medvedev's idiotic offers, the rest will use smuggled tobacco and moonshine.

      Actually, "only a complete fool will" pour into himself and inhale the poison. You don't give a damn that the prisons are full of people who, drunk, have screwed everyone up, ruining the lives of themselves and others. fool fool fool
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 18 November 2015 14: 14 New
        +2
        You’re on the drum that the prisons are full of idiots who drunkenly messed up everyone, ruining the lives of themselves and others.


        You just need to know how to drink. Know when to stop, spend the night where you drink, and not seek adventure on the fifth point and not get hungover. And then you won't spoil anything for anyone. And young people should be taught the culture of drinking. Moreover, this should not be done by the state, but by the parents. This will avoid many of the mistakes and troubles that are inevitable when the street teaches "the culture of drinking".
        1. BMW
          BMW 18 November 2015 14: 33 New
          0
          Quote: alicante11
          You just have to be able to drink.

          Nonsense, skill comes with age. Youth can not be taught the culture of drinking. When the brake is released, it is released very quickly very quickly. It is tested by life and experience (not just mine). Rarely, who is stable. More drinkers than teetotalers.
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 17: 14 New
            +2
            Quote: bmw
            Nonsense, skill comes with age.

            Is not coming. With age, diseases come, not the ability to drink.
            The only guarantee not to sleep is to live soberly.
        2. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 17: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: alicante11
          And young people need to be taught the culture of drinking

          You only drink, culturally, moderately, only drink, drink and drink ... fool

  • I am Russian
    I am Russian 18 November 2015 17: 52 New
    0
    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Like in ukraine wink Down with the oligarchs and thieves

    Why is it so primitive to step on the same rake once again?

    Our task is to nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, subsoil and other natural resources, strategic industries, including energy and transport. Return the state’s monopoly on foreign trade, prohibit the free movement of capital across the border. Return the state monopoly on the production and trade of alcohol and tobacco with a gradual reduction in their turnover to zero.
    Welcome http://referendumrusnod.ru/


    Nationalize the Central Bank - the system will collapse, it will be worse than in Ukraine.

    Have you ever wondered why you didn’t impose retaliatory sanctions on tobacco and alcohol (90% - Europe, America and Japan), but only on food products ??

    None of the current bureaucrats will bring this to life !!
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 17: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: I-Russian
      Nationalize the Central Bank - the system will collapse, it will be worse than in Ukraine.

      But Stalin did not even guess!

      Quote: I-Russian
      Have you ever wondered why you didn’t impose retaliatory sanctions on tobacco and alcohol (90% - Europe, America and Japan), but only on food products ??

      If it were my will, we would have a dry law by 2020.

      Quote: I-Russian
      None of the current bureaucrats will bring this to life !!

      Never say never.
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  • Babr
    Babr 18 November 2015 06: 58 New
    +3
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Like in Ukraine Down with the oligarchs and thieves

    You see, Sanya, so that you would not be led astray, you need confidence in your rightness, a vision of the situation. They did not have this, so some replaced the other.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 07: 02 New
      +1
      Quote: Babr
      Sanya so that you would not be led astray, you need confidence in your innocence, a vision of the situation

      When the revolution and the subsequent sweet life followed you, your brains were fucked up ....
      Quote: Babr
      . They didn’t have this

      Yes, where, only one confidence in their rightness smile
      1. dvg79
        dvg79 18 November 2015 10: 14 New
        +3
        Oh, yes, their goal was high, and their thoughts were pure — to become slaves and prostitutes in Europe, where we are far from them, with outdated ideas of social equality and justice.
        1. Gomunkul
          Gomunkul 18 November 2015 13: 48 New
          +2
          Oh yes, their goal was high, and their thoughts are pure
          For 25 years of independence, they have not learned that there is no freebie! Until this is understood, the Maidan in this country will be eternal. yes laughing
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    2. atalef
      atalef 18 November 2015 07: 11 New
      +2
      Quote: Babr
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Like in Ukraine Down with the oligarchs and thieves

      You see, Sanya, that they would not lead you astray,.

      The Way of Truth belay
      Good morning Victor !!
      1. Babr
        Babr 18 November 2015 09: 54 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        Good morning Victor !!

        Hi Sasha.
        I don’t need these pointers. When you know the process at the molecular level, you won’t get lost hi
  • Amurets
    Amurets 18 November 2015 07: 38 New
    10
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Quote: Babr
    Everyday focused work.

    Like in ukraine wink Down with the oligarchs and thieves

    No! It’s just that all of these TNTs; Echo of Russia and other similar publications cut off state funding. Enough to corrupt people.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 18 November 2015 14: 22 New
      +3
      Stop corrupting the people.
      If someone does this, then someone needs it ...
  • IS-80
    IS-80 18 November 2015 08: 09 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Like in Ukraine Down with the oligarchs and thieves

    Well, well, well done. All sorts of different state budgets are sawing, why aren’t we? The main thing on time. When in the economy, let’s say, there are some problems. smile
  • shuhartred
    shuhartred 18 November 2015 09: 13 New
    0
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Like in Ukraine Down with the oligarchs and thieves

    No not like this. Take away and divide. And let no one offended leave (Strugatsky, "Roadside Picnic" free translation) sad
  • mirag2
    mirag2 18 November 2015 07: 03 New
    +9
    The state should give money for this project if there is not enough margin from advertising.
    But in my opinion, it is more important from the state to receive information and media support-participation in any promotions, so that "VO" would be heard. To attract a large audience. Then, by the way, advertising income will grow.
    Such an information resource is much more important and necessary, for example, a dirty leaflet "MK" - where the owners subtly felt the "stream" and offered to pay bonuses for the "most patriotic" materials. Moreover, these prizes will be awarded by their "like-minded people" among their own.
    I repeat, it was amazing when Prilepin received some kind of award. The FIRST writer of such a plan for many years.
  • PSih2097
    PSih2097 18 November 2015 12: 32 New
    +1
    Quote: Babr
    Everyday focused work.

    voice the main points and directions of this work ... what
    1. Babr
      Babr 18 November 2015 13: 08 New
      +1
      Quote: PSih2097
      Quote: Babr
      Everyday focused work.

      voice the main points and directions of this work ... what

      Forward! To democracy!
      Each person must master managerial knowledge in order to be able to identify the best manager, as well as manage himself. The necessary minimum is the book Secrets of the management of humanity.
  • Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 20 November 2015 22: 31 New
    0
    A revolution in society is evil.
  • VseDoFeNi
    VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 06: 34 New
    +4
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Revolution again? recourse

    Evolution.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 06: 50 New
      +2
      Quote: VseDoFeNi
      Evolution.

      From man to monkey?
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 06: 54 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        From man to monkey?

        Earth, this is a training where we are taught on the Gods. wink
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 18 November 2015 06: 59 New
          +1
          Earth, this is a training where we are taught on the Gods.
          I agree with you.
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        3. atalef
          atalef 18 November 2015 07: 02 New
          +4
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          From man to monkey?

          Earth, this is a training where we are taught on the Gods. wink

          Not many succeeded - Livanova resigned, USE - cancel wassat
          1. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 07: 07 New
            +6
            Quote: atalef
            Not many succeeded - Livanova resigned, USE - cancel wassat

            You would, citizen, understand in your own country, since you left us. wink
            Here you come back, if you come back, then already ... smile
            1. Boris55
              Boris55 18 November 2015 08: 27 New
              +6
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Here you come back, if you come back, then uh ... smile

              Look, you scream: "40 thousand traitors want to return to Russian Paradise and ask Putin to help them" laughing http://79.120.77.163/001/page.php?id=366
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 08: 32 New
                0
                Quote: Boris55
                Look, you scream: "40 thousand traitors want to return to Russian Paradise and ask Putin to help them" laughing

                The keyword is if. smile
          2. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 07: 30 New
            +5
            Quote: atalef
            Not many succeeded - Livanova resigned, USE - cancel

            Do not cancel, force to pass the exam for those who invented it laughing
            Sanya you have a new fan lol
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            2. atalef
              atalef 18 November 2015 13: 55 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              Do not cancel, force to pass the exam, those who invented it Sanya, you have a new fan

              Fenya?
              Do I have to be afraid already?
              Do you think he can achieve the impossible from me?
              wassat
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  • andre
    andre 18 November 2015 08: 01 New
    +9
    Go ahead guys !! I'm all for it. Yes, and you need to be promoted to young people, especially on historical facts. I manage the enterprise myself and receive subsidies from the state. Although it’s not an easy task, it’s worth it. In some interviews about import substitution, I say that it is necessary to give subsidies to the company (to a media resource) but not to smear it all !!!
  • Rus2012
    Rus2012 18 November 2015 17: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: Ruslan67
    Revolution again?

    .
    Of course, it would be great to get public finances!
    Even "echoes ..." they say they receive it (via Gazprom-Media)

    But ...
    As soon as some kind of financing opens ... the guys will immediately come to "check everything" and for a penny given out - they will require reporting and work "for rubles" ... fellow
    Sovereign people - they are so ... laughing
    This must be borne in mind. bully
  • silinigo
    silinigo 18 November 2015 22: 03 New
    0
    Why not ??
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  • Alexander Romanov
    Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 06: 18 New
    11
    Quote: Babr
    The problem of subsidies will disappear immediately.

    Well, yes, the proletarians do not need money, we have a good exchange, admins, we are a good site admins wassat
    Quote: Babr
    And it will not be necessary to beg for handouts.

    Yes, and cancel salaries
    1. Babr
      Babr 18 November 2015 06: 27 New
      +4
      Quote: Alexander Romanov
      Yes, and cancel salaries

      Sanya, for the sake of such a thing, you can tighten your belt. tongue
      Well ... since such a booze has gone ... I’ll give half my pension lol
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 06: 35 New
        +5
        Quote: Babr
        Sanya, for the sake of such a thing, you can tighten your belt.

        Come on, here the crisis is easy, so let’s let the revolution come. Only in words are you ready to tighten it, but in fact, not.
        And the second one is the first one, do not speak and do not decide for everyone. The minority should never dictate to the majority, but the majority is against it.
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 06: 46 New
          +7
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The minority should never dictate to the majority, but the majority is against it.

          God forbid that a sober minority forbids drinking to a drunk majority? laughing
          Never say never. yes
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 19 November 2015 01: 42 New
            0
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Never say never.


            Never forget Sasha - "shake, but do not mix" .. laughing
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        3. My address
          My address 18 November 2015 07: 02 New
          16
          And no! Of course, half a pension, like a machine gun, I won't give you guys. But for a couple of thousand easily count.

          But seriously, I was extremely surprised at the beginning of this year, having learned that VO does not communicate with the Ministry of Defense in any way. I believe that it would be normal to jointly request the VO team and visitors to the Ministry of Defense with a request to take the VO under the wing. Or in other government agencies. The site is truly patriotic, well propagandizes love for the motherland. There is criticism, so it is normal.
          hi
          1. Bongo
            Bongo 18 November 2015 08: 22 New
            14
            Quote: My address
            I believe that it would be normal to apply jointly to the VO team and visitors to the Ministry of Defense with a request to take VO under its wing. Or to other government agencies. The site is truly patriotic, well promotes love for the motherland. There is criticism, so it's normal.


            Of course, the extra money will not hurt anyone, especially since "VO" earns not so much due to advertising (according to my estimates, about 60000 per day). But government funding is fraught with loss of independence and hidden censorship. As the saying goes - "Who feeds the girl, he dances."
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 18 November 2015 09: 41 New
              +4
              Quote: Bongo
              But government funding is fraught with loss of independence and hidden censorship. As the saying goes - "Who feeds the girl, he dances."

              Sergei, you want to say: "Hungry-Yes Free".
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 18 November 2015 09: 47 New
                10
                Quote: Amurets
                Sergei, you want to say: "Hungry-Yes Free".

                I do not think that the VO administration is openly starving, although of course it does not. We are talking about something else ... Nikolai, have you read a lot in official publications about the true state of our air defense system or fleet? Officially, everything is fine with us, or they just don't write or talk about it. And on "VO" such materials appear regularly. I am sure that if there are no publications with versatile information, then the number of site visitors will sharply decrease. For example, "uryalka" and "Wishlist" are not interesting to me.
                1. Amurets
                  Amurets 18 November 2015 10: 15 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Quote: Amurets
                  Sergei, you want to say: "Hungry-Yes Free".

                  I do not think that the VO administration is openly starving, although of course it does not. We are talking about something else ... Nikolai, have you read a lot in official publications about the true state of our air defense system or fleet? Officially, everything is fine with us, or they just don't write or talk about it. And on "VO" such materials appear regularly. I am sure that if there are no publications with versatile information, then the number of site visitors will sharply decrease. For example, "uryalka" and "Wishlist" are not interesting to me.

                  Sergey! We have long understood each other perfectly. Yes, the site is needed, the site is patriotic and not squeezed by censorship, maybe the site needs a little help. And those "Editions" about which we are talking now are on state subsidies and ... ...... well, you understand. I'm sorry Romanov, but my heart is already boiling. Recently I generally went to the technical section of the site, there you can consult, discuss. And according to your article, Seryozha himself can see how many serious people are going ...
            2. Aleksander
              Aleksander 18 November 2015 10: 04 New
              +2
              Quote: Bongo
              But public finance is fraught with loss of independence and hidden censorship


              Censorship is especially "noticeable" on MK, NG and other Ekhahashkas yes
              1. zyablik.olga
                zyablik.olga 18 November 2015 11: 21 New
                +3
                Quote: Aleksander
                Censorship is especially "noticeable" on MK, NG and other Ekhahashkas

                Are you comparing the Military Review with "Ekhashki"? wassat
              2. CTEPX
                CTEPX 19 November 2015 03: 30 New
                0
                Quote: Aleksander
                Censorship is especially "noticeable" on MK, NG and other Ekhahashkas

                And their very "liberal" nature is the result of this censorship. For this su..schnost and money are paid)). Who will receive budgetary funding is determined by the topics of grants. And the list of grant topics is strictly controlled by our "partners".
            3. Smirnov Vadim
              Smirnov Vadim 18 November 2015 11: 54 New
              +1
              Quote: Bongo
              in my estimation about 60000 per day


              Wow! You probably know that no one from the team of the site knows ...
              If there were as much as you write, OH, WE WOULD EXIST! But alas, ooooochen is far from it.
              1. Bongo
                Bongo 18 November 2015 12: 46 New
                +3
                Quote: Smirnov Vadim
                Wow! You probably know that no one from the team of the site knows ...

                Vadim, I didn’t quite take it out of the blue, was it really a big mistake? There is such a resource, take a look: http://mysitecost.ru
                1. atalef
                  atalef 18 November 2015 12: 51 New
                  +5
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Quote: Smirnov Vadim
                  Wow! You probably know that no one from the team of the site knows ...

                  Vadim, I didn’t quite take it out of the blue, was it really a big mistake? There is such a resource, take a look: http://mysitecost.ru

                  Yes, and health !!!!!
                  Decent work - decent pay.
                  Well done Vadim !!!
                  This is not an offshore oil push.
                  I from the very beginning on the site and saw what work was done.
                  Respect !!!!
                2. Smirnov Vadim
                  Smirnov Vadim 18 November 2015 14: 54 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Bongo
                  Vadim, I didn’t quite take it out of the blue, was it really a big mistake? There is such a resource, take a look: http://mysitecost.ru


                  Well, the dollar has grown ... Here you need to be considered at the old rate ...
                  1. Bongo
                    Bongo 18 November 2015 14: 58 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Smirnov Vadim
                    Well, the dollar has grown ... Here you need to be considered at the old rate ...

                    I see, thanks for clarifying. hi
        4. BMW
          BMW 18 November 2015 07: 48 New
          +5
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          here the crisis is easy

          And with a light step, the crisis pressed on his throat. laughing
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Only in words are ready to tighten ....

          .... a noose around his neck. And you’ll give out soap for free. Nah ... Only after a personal example. crying
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          and most are against.

          petty bourgeois tongue
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            1. IS-80
              IS-80 18 November 2015 08: 28 New
              +1
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              The Doctrine of Koshastoy http://vicsrg.ho.com.ua/stat/doctrina.htm

              The delirium of the survivor.
              1. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 18 November 2015 08: 56 New
                +2
                IS-80 "Delirium of a survivalist."
                Exactly.))) However, in Ukrainian conditions, he turned out to be the smartest.)))) He moved to the village, lives on his own farm.))) Not bad .... only no one is safe from food detachments.)))
                1. VseDoFeNi
                  VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 09: 09 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Nagaibak
                  only no one is safe from food detachments.))

                  Are you insured? Or do you see yourself exclusively as part of these food detachments?
                  1. Nagaibak
                    Nagaibak 18 November 2015 15: 35 New
                    +1
                    VseDoFeNi "Are you insured? Or do you see yourself exclusively as part of these food detachments?"
                    The question you have is some kind of muddy.))) You were supposedly joking?
                    1. If you noticed a speech in my comment was about Ukraine.
                    2. I spoke approvingly of Koshast, although I allowed a little sarcasm. And about food detachments, this is not sarcasm.
                    And to you personally. And what kind of silly manner do you have to go over to your personality?)))
                  2. VseDoFeNi
                    VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 17: 23 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Nagaibak
                    The question you have is some kind of muddy.))) You were supposedly joking?

                    A specific question - are you personally, living in the city, insured against food detachments? And "like a joke" many should remember when the bandits shot each other and they have to.

                    Quote: Nagaibak
                    And what kind of silly manner do you have to go over to your personality?)))
                    I give you the opportunity to try on a jacket that you read to others.
                    Specifically about Ukraine - who is insured against the same law-breakers?
                  3. Nagaibak
                    Nagaibak 18 November 2015 19: 48 New
                    +2
                    VseDoFeNi "A specific question - are you personally, living in the city, insured against food detachments?"
                    I’m definitely safe from food detachments. I do not have products in the volumes in which they are harvested by hamsters survivors.
                    VseDoFeNi "I give the opportunity to try on a jacket that you read to others."
                    I didn’t read anything to others, and you are not able to give anything to others. Are you not anastasian-non-resident?)))
                    VseDoFeNi "Specifically about Ukraine - who is insured against the same pravosek?"
                    I do not understand where do we and pravoseki? Residents of Ukraine are not immune from law enforcement. And we are insured. We have a capable state.
                    But seriously, Koshasty did everything right by moving to the village. Given that the crisis is not looming there, not weak. But, in the presence of weak power and the fact that Ukraine will not be allowed to slide into a catastrophe, everything will be fine there. But if the state of Ukraine suffered such shocks as in the civil war of 1917-1922 ... then wait for the food detachments. Why? Yes, because in the struggle of statesmen against hamsters who squeezed products only for sebe, statesmen always win. If you did not know this, then I am sorry for you. Of course, if the state falls apart and is destroyed, things will be different. But, no one is safe from gangs and other delights of anarchy.
          2. VseDoFeNi
            VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 09: 19 New
            +3
            Quote: IS-80
            The delirium of the survivor.

            Can you imagine what would happen if electricity was turned off in any major city? There will be no water in the pipes, the sewage system does not work, clogged with feces ... plague, typhus, dysentery, cholera, the "defeated" by medicine will return, as if by magic.
            1. IS-80
              IS-80 18 November 2015 11: 29 New
              0
              Quote: VseDoFeNi
              Can you imagine what would happen if electricity was turned off in any major city? There will be no water in the pipes, the sewage system does not work, clogged with feces ... plague, typhus, dysentery, cholera, the "defeated" by medicine will return, as if by magic.

              And do you think lurking in a hole is the way out?
              1. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 17: 29 New
                0
                Quote: IS-80
                And do you think lurking in a hole is the way out?

                Not to hide in a hole, but to build a new Russia. Nora, this is a modern city, on which one warhead per half megaton is enough.
                Cities should be settled, and not breathe the smelly poisonous auto-exhaust ...

              2. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 18 November 2015 19: 52 New
                +1
                VseDoFeNi "Don't hide in a hole, but build a new Russia."
                Poor Russia has endured how many builders of new Russia and how much more will it endure.))) Although I am not against the "low-rise project". But, in the conditions of our bourgeois system, all this will remain in dreams.
              3. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 08: 06 New
                0
                Quote: Nagaibak
                But, in the conditions of our bourgeois system, all this will remain in dreams.

                That is, Koshasty is smarter?
              4. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 19 November 2015 10: 09 New
                0
                VseDoFeNi "That is, Koshasty is smarter?"
                Smarter than whom? Many urban residents of Ukraine? -Certainly.)))
              5. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 10: 26 New
                0
                Quote: Nagaibak
                Many urban residents of Ukraine?

                Smarter than many city dwellers in general. Read Le Bon "Psychology of the Masses" and you will be amazed.
                In general, cities are an artificial resource-consuming unpredictable habitat.
              6. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 19 November 2015 14: 25 New
                0
                VseDoFeNi "Smarter than many city dwellers in general."
                In general, the conversation is general. We get into general reasoning about nothing. I specifically gave an example. Anyway.
                And the cities, they will not disappear soon even though they are a shitty habitat. Are you commenting on what or what?))) Or from a farm near Dikanka?))) Although in the long run I think there will be no cities, humanity will get rid of them. But, this is a matter of a rather distant future.
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              8. atalef
                atalef 19 November 2015 14: 41 New
                0
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                it is an artificial resource-consuming unpredictable habitat.
              9. VseDoFeNi
                VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 14: 59 New
                0
                Quote: atalef
                Quote: VseDoFeNi
                it is an artificial resource-consuming unpredictable habitat.

                Alcohol will not lead to this. wassat
              10. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 19 November 2015 17: 04 New
                0
                Atalef for humor +))))
  • gunter_laux
    gunter_laux 18 November 2015 07: 01 New
    +2
    Victor, half of course, bust! And then there’s nothing to eat! laughing
    1. Babr
      Babr 18 November 2015 07: 17 New
      +2
      Quote: gunter_laux
      Victor, half of course, bust!

      We are Pskop, (Irkutsk) we will break through. If only there was a result!
    2. mirag2
      mirag2 18 November 2015 07: 26 New
      +2
      But say you live badly, pensioners drink half the pension, so half would be enough for life. laughing
      1. Was mammoth
        Was mammoth 18 November 2015 09: 21 New
        +4
        Quote: mirag2
        But say you live badly, pensioners drink half the pension, so half would be enough for life. laughing

        Yesterday I went to the store to buy a can of beer. Ah, no, naughty! The state is on guard of the interests of youth! I looked at the calendar:

        World Premature Day (International)
        International Students Day (International)
        Day of district police officers (Russia)
        Day of the military medical worker (Armenia)
        National Revival Day (Azerbaijan)
        Kyrgyz Cinema Day - Cinematographers Day (Kyrgyzstan)
        Day for the struggle for freedom and democracy (Czech Republic)
        Day for the struggle for freedom and democracy (Slovakia)
        Army Day (Democratic Republic of the Congo)
        National Day - Coronation Day of the 1st King (Bhutan)
        Presidents Day (Marshall Islands)
        World Peace Day (International)
        The accession of Queen Elizabeth I to the throne (Great Britain)
        Polytechnio (Greece)
        National Black Cat Day (Italy)
        Feast of Saint Chinita (Venezuela)
        Fiesta in Malabo (Equatorial Guinea)
        National Excursion Day (USA)
        National Baklava Day (USA)
        National Foe Day (USA)
        Homemade Bread Day (USA)
        Electronic Greeting Card Day (USA)

        I had to bite dinner with vodka, which is at home. wink
        Administration "VO". Go for it. It is high time.
        PS Do not forget about advertising. We will survive.
        From time to time in advertising on "VO" I get an advertisement for swimwear (on very pretty girls.) I didn't buy it for my wife. I can't afford 800 rubles for a swimsuit, however.
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 09: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: There was a mammoth
          800 000 rubles for a swimsuit I won’t pull,

          What a pity swimsuit for his beloved wife? She is her best years ...............
          1. Was mammoth
            Was mammoth 18 November 2015 17: 04 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            What a pity

            "You need to take care of your husband. They give him out in the registry office against signature." Not rolling about the best years.
            You also need to drink half a pension. What swimsuits can be?
            But seriously? Even now, in my seventh decade, I confess my wife’s love.
            PS On the working skype only popped up: "I have 5 bottles. Who has money?" Relax. About washer.
    3. mirag2
      mirag2 18 November 2015 07: 26 New
      +2
      But say you live badly, pensioners drink half the pension, so half would be enough for life. laughing
  • oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 18 November 2015 06: 29 New
    +5
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yes, and cancel salaries

    And what, guys (IN), it’s kind of not bad ... And then you look, how many different shmalis for so sucking the country! Patriots also need to eat sometimes, and feed the children ...
    So, I - for.
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      1. atalef
        atalef 18 November 2015 06: 56 New
        -1
        Quote: AlexDARK
        Yes, and religion itself (real) for the sake of money.

        You confuse the sinful with the righteous
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 08: 00 New
          +4
          Quote: atalef
          You confuse the sinful with the righteous

          Don’t give your brother your height ... laughing
          1. atalef
            atalef 18 November 2015 08: 16 New
            0
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Quote: atalef
            You confuse the sinful with the righteous

            Don’t give your brother your height ... laughing

            where did you see the brothers wassat
            Well, really. that only you persuaded - I won’t give you. wink
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 17: 35 New
              0
              Quote: atalef
              where did you see the brothers wassat
              Well, really. that only you persuaded - I won’t give you. wink

              I don’t have Zionists in my family, I don’t need to stick on. laughing
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      2. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 06: 58 New
        +3
        Quote: AlexDARK
        Yes, and religion itself (real) for the sake of money.

        For their sake, everything was started. smile
  • BMW
    BMW 18 November 2015 07: 37 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexander Romanov
    Yes, and cancel salaries

    This is how communism turns out to be easy to build. They finally waited. And then, the market will ruin everything. laughing Romanov did not pay, he refused. wassat
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 07: 43 New
      +1
      Quote: bmw
      Romanov did not pay, he refused.

      But the trick is that they start with you wassat
      1. BMW
        BMW 18 November 2015 08: 23 New
        0
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        But the trick is that they start with you

        Rude. No.
    2. Good me
      Good me 18 November 2015 12: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: bmw
      Romanov did not pay, he refused.

      Bowless belay lol ?
  • afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 18 November 2015 06: 24 New
    +5
    Quote: Babr
    And it will not be necessary to beg for handouts. Our people are generous.

    Vitya you give us ideas Nestlé - "Russia is a generous soul" fellow do not push in laughing
    1. Babr
      Babr 18 November 2015 06: 37 New
      +5
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      do not push in

      You see how you can mock up a good phrase. A generous soul. Just add to it. Nestle. request
    2. Oprychnik
      Oprychnik 18 November 2015 06: 43 New
      +6
      By the way, VO is a site on which it is possible to monitor public opinion, which is probably what the appropriate structures use, which is not indifferent to the state.
      1. Oprychnik
        Oprychnik 18 November 2015 06: 53 New
        +5
        I’ll also add my private opinion, based on my own observations.
        VO is a lever for a "soft" reorientation of the same public opinion, which I have witnessed more than once during 2 years of visiting this site.
    3. atalef
      atalef 18 November 2015 06: 57 New
      +1
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      Quote: Babr
      And it will not be necessary to beg for handouts. Our people are generous.

      Vitya you give us ideas Nestlé - "Russia is a generous soul" fellow do not push in laughing

      Nestle is not a bad option.
      My advertisement popped up - dry closets wassat
      1. Babr
        Babr 18 November 2015 07: 04 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        My advertisement popped up - dry closets

        Alexander. How do you manage and fish .. that is, and read, answer, also overpower advertising? Sitting on a dry closet. lol Where do you see this ad?
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 November 2015 07: 07 New
          +1
          Quote: Babr
          Quote: atalef
          My advertisement popped up - dry closets

          Alexander. How do you manage and fish .. that is, and read,

          Shampoo and conditioner - 2 in one
          Quote: Babr
          Where do you see this ad?

          Better ask where I don't see her
      2. Kuzyakin15
        Kuzyakin15 18 November 2015 07: 12 New
        +1
        GOOD THING! Useful advertisement.
        Willows are unhappy with something?
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 18 November 2015 07: 41 New
          +1
          What kind of advertising? I have Mozila-no advertising. Although generally use the "view for reading". True, they see cookies, maybe I am not considered an ad viewer and the site loses some of its ad revenue.
      3. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 18 November 2015 08: 31 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        My advertisement popped up - dry closets

        That’s all you Zionists with a catch .. laughing
        1. atalef
          atalef 18 November 2015 08: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Quote: atalef
          My advertisement popped up - dry closets

          That’s all you Zionists with a catch .. laughing

          You laugh but it was true.
          Although the site should live and no one has canceled banknotes
          if the existence of VO requires advertising - well, so it means to be.
          She does not bother me.
          And to work for nothing is to work for nothing.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 09: 43 New
            0
            Quote: atalef
            And to work for nothing is to work for nothing.

            I don’t work for nothing, I work for nothing!
            Or it’s more familiar to many ... We are not slaves, we are not slaves!
        2. atalef
          atalef 18 November 2015 08: 40 New
          +1
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          Quote: atalef
          My advertisement popped up - dry closets

          That’s all you Zionists with a catch .. laughing

          You laugh but it was true.
          Although the site should live and no one has canceled banknotes
          if the existence of VO requires advertising - well, so it means to be.
          She does not bother me.
          And to work for nothing is to work for nothing.
      4. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 09: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: atalef
        My advertisement popped up - dry closets

        To each his own! wassat
      5. Good me
        Good me 18 November 2015 11: 35 New
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Nestle is not a bad option.
        My advertisement popped up - dry closets


        With me, with the "ad killer" disabled: - "buy panties in packs" ...

        That is why I installed the extension in the browser. It would have been VO, more legible in the selection of partners, the approach to advertisers has changed, then, perhaps, there would be no need to "chew" anything ...

        In addition, the guys from Ukraine, with whom they had to communicate before, complained that on the Ukrainian Internet, in the VO window, they "climbed" windows with advertisements of goods "for ATO" ...
        I don’t know what it is connected with, but like that ... AT - ATO ...
        1. Tuxuu
          Tuxuu 18 November 2015 12: 59 New
          +3
          This is the so-called "targeted advertising", your browser tracks the history of your interests and, in accordance with them, you are offered an advertisement for a particular product.
    4. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 07: 00 New
      +5
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      Nestlé - "Russia a generous soul"

      And if you read the word "Nestle" on the contrary, then the Russian generosity of the nineties becomes clearer - they gave everything.
    5. Basarev
      Basarev 18 November 2015 07: 03 New
      +2
      But the oligarchic anti-Russian clique that has settled in power will still have to be replaced. By any means. Up to substandard.
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 07: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Basarev
        But the oligarchic anti-Russian clique that has settled in power will still have to be replaced.

        Judging by the oligarch Prokhorov, they have a clear tendency to extinction. wink
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 18 November 2015 07: 50 New
          +2
          But the oligarchic anti-Russian clique that has settled in power will still have to be replaced.
          it’s more important now to shift such a clique in the media and cultural space!
          1. Ilya 12
            Ilya 12 18 November 2015 08: 53 New
            +1
            We must start at TNT! And NTV)
        2. EvgNik
          EvgNik 18 November 2015 09: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: VseDoFeNi
          they have a clear tendency to extinction

          For example, I judge the tendency towards extinction not by Prokhorov, but by the children of the current oligarchs, officials, deputies, and so on. "Golden" youth, not fit for anything, except to drive cars, crush people, and for this they do not receive prison sentences. Besides, drugs, alcoholism are degeneration.
      2. mirag2
        mirag2 18 November 2015 07: 33 New
        +3
        But the oligarchic anti-Russian clique that has settled in power will still have to be replaced. By any means. Up to substandard.
        Freedom to Kvachkov!
  • gunter_laux
    gunter_laux 18 November 2015 06: 58 New
    +4
    Yes, we have long been such (folk). For the treatment of our own children, we launch a cap (SMS) in a circle every week. But at least a little bit of state support to VO would not hurt. I am for". IMHO.
  • Good me
    Good me 18 November 2015 10: 11 New
    0
    Quote: Babr
    Our people are generous.


    Generous. With "breadth of soul", capable of unleashing a "Russian revolt, senseless, bloody and merciless" ...

    Are you ready to lead the "joint efforts", taking ALL responsibility?
  • Sterlya
    Sterlya 18 November 2015 19: 47 New
    +2
    I am for. Only then not to adhere to the strictly outlined line of the party. Otherwise, like figs to you. Then the people are quite adequate, and everyone wants the benefits of Russia.
  • Lenin
    Lenin 18 November 2015 20: 07 New
    +2
    Quote: Babr
    And it will not be necessary to beg for handouts. Our people are generous.

    And especially the soul. The idea is correct, but for some reason it does not suit everyone. Well, the Chinese fellows, they took care of improving the life of the people, they planned everything, and they will build socialism and they will give birth to children even more in good conditions ... Because the Chinese know that in many countries the demographic problems and large territories in these countries will be freed in the near future, so why not take them ???? hi
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 19 November 2015 03: 39 New
      0
      Quote: Lenin
      and they will build socialism

      They will not build. The Chinese have all the revolutions ahead.
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  • yugan
    yugan 20 November 2015 09: 25 New
    0
    The idea is right. It must be implemented. What help is needed from us?
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    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 18 November 2015 08: 35 New
      +5
      Thanks for song. In our family, the older generation, getting together, sang it. A generation that survived the war, getting together, sang good songs.
  • Very old
    Very old 18 November 2015 06: 49 New
    +8
    TNT, coupled with an echo - such patriots ... am

    I vote for their closure
    I support DIMONa +++
    1. Kunar
      Kunar 18 November 2015 08: 48 New
      +1
      Against)))) You close them, with whom will we cut? News from the adversary’s camp, again !! Just let them share the money! And then they live, you know, everything is ready .... the decakents are bad .. drinks hi
  • SSR
    SSR 18 November 2015 06: 52 New
    +7
    In our country, it is generally very "interesting"))) the article correctly describes the situation with how some are financed and how the "bald man" is funded by others .... The question is rhetorical, but why such urapatriotic parties like "United Russia" and "Communists" are simply not will take and donate some money that they will become poor? Yes, at least on the symbolic advertising rights (links to their website) that their representatives do not come here ?! ))) although there is still such a moment - until you kick and tell, our person may not even think about how a seemingly successful resource needs help. hi I really hope that one of the readers will scratch his back cover))). And take real steps.
    Quote: Dimon19661
    I vote for.

    PS
    The heads of such enterprises as Rostec, KRET Sukhoi, Uralvagon and others are also concerned with the possibility of placing symbolic advertisements for money and I think that the VO administration should knock on them with such an offer as the first step.
  • SibSlavRus
    SibSlavRus 18 November 2015 06: 54 New
    +9
    On the financial and material balance of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - an ideal option!
    "Voennoye Obozreniye" has a potential, in terms of efficiency, exceeding that of the entire total staff of "public relations" of the Ministry of Defense.
    And the target audience, thanks to the methods of the site team and the architecture of information flows, is beyond competition.
    I, at the place of decision-makers, would not miss this opportunity!

    PS The main thing is to be able to agree that there would be no rigid framework, such as "who pays, he orders the tune."
    Because there are, there are very negative and unpleasant examples of relations at all levels of government with multilevel media.

    The site has made a name for itself! It has the right to realize and develop its potential.
    1. CTEPX
      CTEPX 19 November 2015 03: 43 New
      0
      Quote: SibSlavRus
      On the financial and material balance of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation - an ideal option!

      The case of the Ministry of Defense - to fight a war)). But here to initiate the creation of a grant fund to support the activities of patriotic sites - this, yes!
  • Ruslan
    Ruslan 18 November 2015 07: 59 New
    +2
    I think it is necessary "in" first to offer donation to your visitors. who regularly contributes money receives a "donator" label, or given the military specifics of the "rear" :) well, or some other buns to throw, for example, each vote for a person increases by two. if this does not justify itself, then you can try to take money from the liberal authorities. only now I'm afraid there will be articles by Venediktov, where he will convince of the stupidity of military spending and the need to build toilets on them :) and you can't refuse sponsors.
    1. Ilya 12
      Ilya 12 18 November 2015 08: 51 New
      +1
      I completely agree. Advertising, unfortunately, is necessary to support any projects, but in this case, everything is pretty decent and harmonious.
  • Imperialkolorad
    Imperialkolorad 18 November 2015 08: 50 New
    0
    Also + for state funding of HE.
  • iliya87
    iliya87 18 November 2015 09: 49 New
    0
    I support. To be honest, I thought that state support was already being implemented to one degree or another.
  • go21zd45few
    go21zd45few 18 November 2015 13: 22 New
    0
    A necessary and useful program, we are for three of us.
  • Archon
    Archon 18 November 2015 15: 19 New
    +1
    I, too, kind of.
    But considering WHAT MEDIA are fed from the state, the thought creeps in that they will not be allowed to go to the trough for nothing, or even more than that.
    That is, advertising - it is somehow more reliable, independent.
    But considering how many readers use the AdblockPlus program, it becomes clear that advertising is also not an option.
    Another good income may be from custom advertising articles, but this is not the right option for this site.
    And donations, too, will not be scattered.
    So, you need to come up with something else.
    all the same, Mail.Ru Group has net profit for 2014 year according to information from Wikipedia 12,5 of billions of rubles, and I don’t think that there are any special people sitting there. So VO has a chance of success if you try.
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 18 November 2015 16: 42 New
    0

    I would like to hope that the idea of ​​the “VO” team, related to the possible receipt of state financing, will first find approval among our readers
    approve of the undertaking! soldier
  • Alibekulu
    Alibekulu 18 November 2015 22: 29 New
    0
    In thought about: “Is Military Review“ worthy of state funding ... ”
    Operation "Legalization" wink ?!
  • shershen
    shershen 19 November 2015 09: 25 New
    +1
    And I am against.
    In my opinion, in VO the level of jingoistic patriotism and excessive praise of the president is already close to a critical point, and if VO is also financed from the "trough", then it will generally be the finish line.
  • jogin
    jogin 25 November 2015 08: 37 New
    0
    Is Voennoye Obozreniye worthy of state funding ..

    The author knows how to make fun.
  • snifer
    snifer 18 November 2015 05: 55 New
    +6
    If this is not to the detriment of VO itself, then why not, although advertising does not annoy me, and the background from military toys fits harmoniously into the site, I even have the hell block on VO turned off.
  • Ruslan67
    Ruslan67 18 November 2015 05: 58 New
    +8
    It's time yesI am for hi
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 06: 01 New
      +6
      Quote: Ruslan67
      I am for

      Would you try to write that you are against laughing
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 18 November 2015 06: 07 New
        +4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Would you try to write that you are against

        what laughing
      2. Very old
        Very old 18 November 2015 07: 05 New
        +7
        Yes tutu ALL "FOR"
        But I am also against these:
      3. EvgNik
        EvgNik 18 November 2015 09: 41 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Would you try to write that you are against

        fool drinks hi
    2. venaya
      venaya 18 November 2015 07: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: Ruslan67
      I am for

      One who does not want feed your VO, he will feed someone else's IN !!!
  • Totalwar
    Totalwar 18 November 2015 05: 58 New
    10
    VO project should be developed in height and breadth. I am for
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  • Sirocco
    Sirocco 18 November 2015 06: 01 New
    11
    Good idea, I wish you not to catch Star Disease. Well and most importantly, God forbid you IN, to get some sort of sponsor from the business, then you and the card.
    Good luck in your hard business, but oh, how you need it, knowing our bureaucracy laughing good
    1. Banshee
      Banshee 18 November 2015 21: 49 New
      0
      With you catch, how ...
  • horoh
    horoh 18 November 2015 06: 09 New
    +5
    The idea is very good, and it needs to be implemented. I am for!!!
  • Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 18 November 2015 06: 11 New
    +6
    Yes, “VO” does not pretend to be “whitish and fluffy,” and in no way does it try to put sticks in the wheels of media freedom, freedom of speech. VO is just trying to understand public finance logic, and hopes that the work of the administrative and authorship team of the information portal will receive attention for state support.

    Logics??? Here, apparently, who pushed through, he could, as they say. But really a patriotic and necessary site, but who needs it? Those who read it or those who depend on the possibility of state financing? The former can not, and the latter will want? Some questions ...
  • afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 18 November 2015 06: 12 New
    +4
    Funny you .. give patriotic site money ?? Masha Gaidar would be instead of Smirnov, then please - at least from the presidential fund ...
    Not that you will decompose the people - to teach and instill patriotism ... laughing
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 06: 20 New
      +7
      Quote: afdjhbn67
      Would Masha Gaidar instead of Smirnov

      So Smirnov needs to create his own party and then funding is guaranteed laughing
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 18 November 2015 06: 30 New
        +3
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        So Smirnov needs to create his own party and then funding is guaranteed

        If you don’t cut Saakashvili laughing I, too, for .. the potential of the site, by the way, is quite enough for the State Duma if resources are allocated correctly .. in every major city, voters will find ..
        But seriously, in place of Kremlin ideologists, I would definitely give money - because it’s easy to track a serious cut in the mood of society from different regions .. hi
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 06: 38 New
          +5
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          I'm also for ..

          Well then, it's time to create a party cash desk. It will be responsible for it ..... I will. It’s not worth shifting the hardest to others, you will have winked
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 18 November 2015 06: 52 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Well then it's time to create a party cash desk

            Where to throw money? to Yandex wallet? atalef warn that shekels are also accepted .. (as the help of the world behind the scenes) laughing If I make a noise for a small share in the region laughing
            1. Alexander Romanov
              Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 07: 47 New
              +4
              Quote: afdjhbn67
              ? to Yandex wallet?

              Why, immediately throw on my credit card and don’t worry. Don’t worry about the money, everything will go to the party’s needs. Reception on the occasion of the opening of the party.
              Cognac 2 boxes.
              Champagne 3 drawers.
              Lobsters, caviar, etc. ...... shorter report for each kopeika comrade soldier
        2. Good me
          Good me 18 November 2015 10: 47 New
          +2
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          But seriously, in the place of the Kremlin ideologists, I would definitely give money - because a serious cut of the mood of society from different regions is easy to track.


          Naive you ...

          What is preventing the "Kremlin", or anyone else, now, COMPLETELY FREE "to" monitor "IN?

          For this, it is enough to invest in "monitoring" structures, which is actually being done in my opinion ...

          Rђ RІRѕS, investing money in order to make the site "tarnom" to promote initiatives, "lobbyist of interests", this is different; Kremlin ideologists (and around) should have thought about this ...
      2. atalef
        atalef 18 November 2015 06: 33 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Quote: afdjhbn67
        Would Masha Gaidar instead of Smirnov

        So Smirnov needs to create his own party and then funding is guaranteed laughing

        There is such a party
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 18 November 2015 06: 42 New
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          There is such a party

          And so you pull the little hands from the world behind the scenes, to the most holy .. laughing
          Hi Sasha hi
          1. atalef
            atalef 18 November 2015 06: 53 New
            +5
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Quote: atalef
            There is such a party

            And so you pull the little hands from the world behind the scenes, to the most holy .. laughing
            Hi Sasha hi

            Hi Nikolay, I'm generally for state financing, are they collecting little taxes or something? It's time to share !!!!!!!
            1. afdjhbn67
              afdjhbn67 18 November 2015 07: 01 New
              0
              Quote: atalef
              I'm generally for state funding

              you do not otmazyvatsya .. throw shekels Romanova in the party ... laughing
              1. atalef
                atalef 18 November 2015 13: 28 New
                +3
                Quote: afdjhbn67
                Quote: atalef
                I'm generally for state funding

                you do not otmazyvatsya .. throw shekels Romanova in the party ... laughing

                Let it be circumcised first wassat
              2. atalef
                atalef 18 November 2015 13: 28 New
                0
                Quote: afdjhbn67
                Quote: atalef
                I'm generally for state funding

                you do not otmazyvatsya .. throw shekels Romanova in the party ... laughing

                Let it be circumcised first wassat
          2. Good me
            Good me 18 November 2015 13: 22 New
            +1
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            And so you pull the little hands from the world behind the scenes, to the most holy.

            For beer ? belay

            Greetings, categorically, both yes
        2. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 06: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: atalef
          There is such a party

          For some reason, even our simple creation of a party turns into a booze laughingThe boyar is healthy, that you have lost activity. You must be made deputy substitutes.
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 18 November 2015 06: 58 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            we have even a simple creation of the party turns into a booze

            If we create a party, it will already be a Banquet good
          2. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 18 November 2015 07: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            The boyar is healthy, that you have lost activity.

            I became a "general", I got fat .. for a long time, apparently, world Zionism was not beaten .. laughing
          3. Kunar
            Kunar 18 November 2015 08: 54 New
            +2
            So this is a national Soviet trait! You can’t drink, how are you going to lead? In general, I-for! Write me at Voshniki! Where to come with weapons?
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          5. atalef
            atalef 18 November 2015 13: 33 New
            +4
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            For some reason, even our simple creation of a party turns into a booze

            so we filter out spies
      3. nikpwolf
        nikpwolf 18 November 2015 07: 10 New
        +2
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        So Smirnov needs to create his own party and then funding is guaranteed

        No, you still need to change your gender, forgive ... oh and get acquainted with the Georgian (preferably with a shaky nervous system).
        And on the topic - I'm in favor. Although I assume that everything is not so simple there. And how not to regret later. But we often have this way - either there is a choice, but there is no money, or there is money and there is no choice anymore. Good luck to the guys "VO".
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 18 November 2015 07: 48 New
          +1
          Quote: nikpwolf
          , still need to change sex, to forgive ... oh and get acquainted with the Georgian (well

          Interesting plans you have
  • 34 region
    34 region 18 November 2015 06: 12 New
    +6
    Why comment? The state is simply obligated to finance a patriotic site. The state should have its own ideology. Foundations like Soros did not hesitate to allocate grants to promote their ideology. Why should our country be shy to pursue its line? If they refuse, it will be clear what kind of fruits are sitting there, whom they support and whose policies they are pursuing.
    1. KOH
      KOH 18 November 2015 06: 20 New
      +3
      If they refuse, it will be clear what kind of fruits are sitting there, whom they support and whose policies they are pursuing.


      And here we’ll really see if they give money IN, here they give it, a comment below ...
  • KOH
    KOH 18 November 2015 06: 13 New
    +8
    And why does "Narodnoe Dostoyanie" finance anti-popular mouthpieces, from which everyone is already spitting ...
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  • parusnik
    parusnik 18 November 2015 06: 16 New
    +7
    VO is just trying to understand the logic of state financing.. To paraphrase the old joke .. on the table were two books, thick and thin .. The logic was written on the thin ... The thick Logic of Agrofinancing, VOLUME FIRST ...
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 18 November 2015 06: 21 New
    10
    Strongly for. Public funding should receive exclusively patriotic programs. Recently I went to the store, turned on the TV, TNT - such a nasty thing on the screen! We’re not like talking at home, on the street, at work. And this is the day, children listen and perceive as something normal. And you won’t prove it - it’s on TV! Give us censorship (at least for the culture of speech) in the media!
    1. Karabanov
      Karabanov 18 November 2015 09: 23 New
      +2
      Quote: EvgNik
      the TV is turned on, TNT is such a nasty thing on the screen!

      But someone is watching this? So this is gamut in demand, that’s what’s scary ...
      I don't watch TV at all, except for news, rare political talk shows and occasionally the Kultura channel. It is impossible to simply perceive all the heresy that is being carried out of the box, that federal channels, that commercial ...
      The endless b-series are replaced by low-grade cops, then Petrosyanism, then stupid advertising, one Malakhov powders his brain in the morning, the other in the evening ... In general, the nonsense is complete. I can’t even imagine what is in the head of a person passing all this through himself.
      Public funding VO idea is good, but fraught with loss of independence. It seems to me that way.
      1. VseDoFeNi
        VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 09: 42 New
        0
        Quote: Karabanov
        So this is gamut in demand, that’s what’s scary ...

        So it is imposed ...
      2. EvgNik
        EvgNik 18 November 2015 09: 49 New
        0
        Quote: Karabanov
        I don’t watch TV at all

        So I do not look. My wife watches in the evenings, sometimes I join her if there are old films on "Culture" or "Zvezda" or "Home" or a decent concert, well, even skiing, biathlon. And TNT does not turn on at all, so I was just shocked in the store.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 18 November 2015 11: 40 New
          +2
          Quote: EvgNik
          And TNT does not turn on at all, so I was just shocked at the store.

          You are lucky! I was tortured to fight with my wife for this obscenity. I offered her videos of "Dom-2" from the Internet, which are not shown on TV, said turn off this porno. Doesn't believe, but still watches.
          1. Karabanov
            Karabanov 18 November 2015 14: 13 New
            0
            Quote: Amurets
            He does not believe, but still looks.

            Familiar situation...
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 November 2015 06: 24 New
    +3
    Definitely for.
  • Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 18 November 2015 06: 27 New
    +3
    I would like to know the opinion of colleagues from the air defense, maybe they will help than they can, as they have an Internet project. The militia is still holding.
    And by the way, what is our rating of all?
  • lablizn
    lablizn 18 November 2015 06: 27 New
    +3
    What's the problem? Where to go? To some media committee?
    If admin. site "VO" knows where to turn, then the flag in hand, as for the subscribers, then, I think the majority will support, if it will contribute to financial support from government agencies.
  • Strezhevchanin
    Strezhevchanin 18 November 2015 06: 31 New
    +3
    Can I file a petition, like a state resource is available?
  • Han Solo
    Han Solo 18 November 2015 06: 33 New
    +5
    Admins and layout designers need to get a salary.
    As if everything turns out logically, VO has grown from "just a site" into a worthy and correct source of information. Personally, I do not mind that the state would throw up money, and this improved the site. And advertising does not really bother me here.
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 18 November 2015 06: 34 New
    +6
    The VO site is actually at the forefront, fighting right up to Russia, for our souls! And without the support of the state, it’s hard for the peasants ... You won’t last long on enthusiasm alone! Can any of the readers have connections in government agencies? Help would be necessary ... hi
  • Dezinto
    Dezinto 18 November 2015 06: 39 New
    +8
    8 million is strong !!!! - and This is the "assistant" of the editor-in-chief! Leads the transfer! Shenderovich was simply speechless!

    - and that's what they give financing to !! It’s scary to imagine how many such fashionable humanitarians’s iPhones have grown over the past twenty years, and which they now rule in the media !!! - this is kapets! - in Russia - 8 million population ...........

    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 18 November 2015 06: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: DEZINTO
      - and that's what they give financing to !!

      Duc is pocket art ... the opposition of Vyacheslav Volodin.
    2. Kunar
      Kunar 18 November 2015 09: 04 New
      +4
      Everything is clear here. It’s just that this animal doesn’t count us for people! Is there life beyond the Moscow Ring Road, is there no life outside the Moscow Ring Road .... laughing
    3. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 18 November 2015 09: 08 New
      +3
      DEZINTO "8 million is strong !!!! - and this is the editor's assistant!"
      I looked .... rzhunimaga ... to tears s.u.k.a)))) Thank you amused.))))
  • Stoler
    Stoler 18 November 2015 06: 48 New
    +2
    That's right, it's time to go up another step.
  • Sloavaros
    Sloavaros 18 November 2015 06: 49 New
    +5
    Behind! There are a lot of materials on patriotic and historical subjects on the site. This is precisely what prompted the idea of ​​state funding. Then it remains to collect all the opened topics and questions in a daddy, and make an appointment with Shoigu - for starters. Get support from the MO, you also need.
  • anfreezer
    anfreezer 18 November 2015 06: 49 New
    +6
    "... and if the site, as many, for obvious reasons, would like to be cleared of advertising content under the current conditions, then, excuse me, the days of" VO "will be numbered." God forbid guys, God forbid belay ... And so the lack of information, as well as in educational terms for worthy, patriotic resources ... Under your "petition" to the appropriate "chambers of the sovereign" I will sign without looking ...
  • Glot
    Glot 18 November 2015 06: 52 New
    +5
    I personally do not bother advertising. I don’t even notice her. But worth a try. After all, as we have already noted above, this will be the growth of VO. What well. It may turn out to get State support, and not only financially.
  • man_of_war
    man_of_war 18 November 2015 06: 55 New
    +5
    IMHO, it is necessary, you are doing a good thing .... Apart from this, I would like to highlight historical articles ... I - For!
  • populist
    populist 18 November 2015 06: 57 New
    +3
    I would like to hope that the idea of ​​the “VO” team, related to the possible receipt of state financing, will first find approval among our readers.

    What objections can there be? "Nobody is against, everyone is for!"
    It is only necessary to find through whom to act.
    Advertising is not annoying. Even pretty.
    But who needs women's trousers at VO?
  • Koshak
    Koshak 18 November 2015 06: 59 New
    +2
    "So, the website of the Federal Agency for Press and Mass Communications tells about the priorities for obtaining state funding, determined by the following criteria: publication of socially significant projects about the Great Patriotic War, about domestic naval commanders (F. Ushakov), generals, designers (A. Tupolev) and developers of weapons of different eras. In addition, it is said about materials and projects that are aimed at the adaptation of disabled people, citizens of retirement age, etc. "

    The last phrase does not apply (directly) to the topic of the site, and "publication of socially significant projects" is the very thing. soldier I am also for state financing good
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 18 November 2015 10: 03 New
      0
      Quote: Koshak
      In addition, it talks about materials and projects that are aimed at adapting disabled people, citizens of retirement age, etc. "

      And participation of pensioners in the forum and site, discussion and comments, is it not the adaptation of pensioners to life? Moreover, life is active. This is my personal opinion.
  • Signaller
    Signaller 18 November 2015 07: 03 New
    +5
    I think that Voennoye Obozreniye is worthy of state funding. No other site has that information and the opportunity to discuss it with people. Yes, perhaps, I am wrong or narrow-minded, but this allows you to evaluate your knowledge and experience. I vote FOR. Good luck to you.
  • cap
    cap 18 November 2015 07: 06 New
    +3
    Quote: anfreezer
    anfreezer RU Today, 06:49 AM New

    "... and if the site, as many, for obvious reasons, would like to be cleared of advertising content under the current conditions, then, excuse me, the days of" VO "will be numbered." God forbid, guys, God forbid belay ... And so there is a deficit in information, as well as in educational terms for worthy, patriotic resources ... Under your "petition" to the corresponding "chambers of the sovereign" I will sign without looking .. ...

    Me too. hi
  • McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 18 November 2015 07: 14 New
    +6
    I do not understand anything. Leontyev - heads the press from Gazprom, but leads the correct "However".
    Peskov is from the president, and hangs out at "echo" parties.
    Everything is so muddy, mysterious.
    Maybe the authorities specifically contain these media in order to show that everything is in order with democracy.
    But there is a war (informational) - it’s time to start these games!
  • Jack-b
    Jack-b 18 November 2015 07: 20 New
    +5
    Of course, it would be better if VO funded than anything. So if the guys decide to get involved in this mess with subsidies, then I would like to wish them good luck. There will surely be a whole cart of work, the darkness of all kinds of documents drawn up, the darkness of the offices run around, a thousand signatures to collect. Well, apparently they give financing for a project. Those. This project must be invented and documented.
  • Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 18 November 2015 07: 31 New
    +3
    You can and should try. Now without state support it will be very difficult, on one advertisement.
  • 1234567890
    1234567890 18 November 2015 07: 31 New
    +5
    Well, our state should once again finance a patriotic resource. So good luck VO in this matter.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 18 November 2015 09: 01 New
      -1
      Quote: 1234567890
      Well, our state should once again finance a patriotic resource.
      1. RONIN-HS
        RONIN-HS 19 November 2015 17: 49 New
        0
        Bayonet...!
        Whose "bayonet" are you? If Russian, then triangular. Look in the mirror, if you're flat, then there are no options - German, however ... (taking into account the epoch of the picture ...) Change the flag ... To dance and jingle at the grave is a vile thing.fool

        Vote FOR Military Review. If you don’t finance VO, then this is a direct betrayal of Russia's interests. I don't want to be a prophet, but These - money will not give ... Not for the distribution of their dough put ... negative
  • V.ic
    V.ic 18 November 2015 07: 31 New
    +3
    As for the partial financing from the treasury = I would be in favor of both hands! However, ... / damn it, Leontyev was attracted again! /, Yes ..., however, "VO" a priori will not give government funding, since this site is patriotic. Sorry for the skepticism, colleagues, but at the crappy celebration of life, you and I are like a thorn in the eye of the nursing authorities.
  • Wajra-3
    Wajra-3 18 November 2015 07: 36 New
    +5
    The portal, of course, deserves to participate in the government funding program, based on the topics it covers.
    And you have to try to get it. It is best for the development of individual areas (topics), and not the portal as a whole.
    Regarding reproaches for the presence of advertising on the site, allegations of improper placement of server space - do not pay attention. As soon as the advertisement disappears from the site, and the server moves to the country, there will be even more people who will accuse the site of merging with the state propaganda machine and the bias of the materials.
  • Averias
    Averias 18 November 2015 07: 42 New
    +4
    So maybe this is, perhaps, how can we help ourselves? I mean that no one canceled voluntary assistance. For example, I am ready to donate a certain amount to support the "VO" project. And what, the resource is excellent, informative, "dirt" and orders are not observed. People gathered adequate. And judging by the number of users, as they say: "With the world on a string ....". In general, my proposal to "VO", tell me where you can voluntary help to maintain performance and maintain the resource at the proper level to list. People write correctly, state funding is of course good, but you can get into trouble. Friends, are we really going to get poorer?
    1. Aleksander
      Aleksander 18 November 2015 09: 01 New
      0
      Quote: Averias
      Friend, is it really impoverished?


      Нет!
      Quote: Averias
      For example, I am ready to donate a certain amount to support the "VO


      And I agree.
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  • Wild_grey_wolf
    Wild_grey_wolf 18 November 2015 07: 48 New
    +2
    The idea is good. But if VO is interested in readers, then there are pitfalls. So the guys would have done that a long time ago and for the trips for the photo essays Financing was very interesting, because these are also projects that are beneficial to the state and accreditation will be much better. Where does it mean there are still disadvantages?
  • Kolka82
    Kolka82 18 November 2015 07: 48 New
    +4
    Unfortunately (?), As always, the saying works that we are "poor but proud". A decent, well-mannered, good in every sense, a person rarely turns to money "radishes" for help, and if he already completely squeezes, then something inside such a person breaks with each such appeal. So it is with our VO. And therefore, I wish our site as few such requests as possible, and if it really works out, then let it be an exception to the rule.
  • Denis DV
    Denis DV 18 November 2015 07: 49 New
    +2
    Projects, contests, that's good. Just how to find out about them and where? Who will produce the assessment? And what does it look like in the form of an auction, a state order? Will they offer materials from outside to publish or pay for the creation of articles? request
  • VadimSt
    VadimSt 18 November 2015 08: 00 New
    +4
    Nonsense, with the desire to "please yourself", while mobilizing some "public opinion". I would like to ask: - "How much is patriotism now for the people"? And what about - "deliberately trying to bend the patriotic line", a clear overkill! More than once, with the light hand of responsible persons, materials were posted on the site, which can only be found in the dumps of opposition sites.
    So, everything, as always - the appetite comes with eating!
  • sa-ag
    sa-ag 18 November 2015 08: 06 New
    0
    There will be state financing through Gazprom-Media, this structure was established for such cases, hardly anyone will carry out financing of HE as a separate line in the budget of the Russian Federation
  • drop
    drop 18 November 2015 08: 28 New
    11
    Voennoye Obozreniye is one of the most widely read television magazines in Russia. Many topics are printed here for discussion. I, for example, a scientist, was the Chief Designer of many systems adopted for service and still operating in the RF Armed Forces. For 12 years I was in charge of the GU of one of the defense ministries, dozens of enterprises were created under my leadership. I have more than 300 scientific works, more than 30 works of art. I am constantly typing in "VO". Here the problems of concern to the population of the country, moreover the patriotic population, are raised. The VO magazine should be supported financially by the government of the country, because it should not give funds from the budget to the media that destroy the state. I think that "VO" is worthy of state support. I have the honor
  • AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 18 November 2015 08: 35 New
    +5
    Do not give IN public funding! And the point! Wrong resource. If TNT, or the echo of Muscovites, yes!
    We have officially Surkov and Kiselev with Rogozin on patriotism! But VO does not fit into the official format!
    Pointers will go from above, and so on ... Now the patriot Kvachkov is more an enemy for the government and the state than
    Russophobe Venediktov! The site team has the right to decide for itself what to do next. This is just my point
    view as a visitor ...
    1. Per se.
      Per se. 18 November 2015 10: 18 New
      +2
      They will give, they won't, it's worth a try, it's another matter if they give it and start "steering" what will happen to the site. If a respected team recalled "developed capitalism", then besides advertising, another way is known - a paid site, hosting, domains, everything costs money ... How much such a business is acceptable for the editorial office, another question, as they say, "There are very decent sites on free hosting. It's all about straightness of hands and sharpness of mind. " To be honest, I didn’t expect our MO to be out of work at all. There were times, like, General Makarov made comments on the site, which were deleted after, Alexander Romanov tried everything in the discussion then, was it him. I like the site, I hope that the solution will be found and will be correct.
  • askort154
    askort154 18 November 2015 08: 37 New
    +6
    As I understand it, the article is probing our attitude to VO. Sorry, most of the discussion, someone led away
    flood. In my opinion, there is a problem and it must be solved. Therefore, the VO team needs to develop specific, in their opinion,
    suggestions and what kind of support is needed from us. Here, a proposal was made to apply for support to the Ministry of Defense. This is probably
    the most promising option. Moreover, you must contact Shoigu directly with the display of our support.
    1. askort154
      askort154 18 November 2015 10: 05 New
      +1
      askort154 ...... Here, a proposal was made to apply for support to the MO. This is probably
      the most promising option. Moreover, you must contact Shoigu directly with the display of our support.

      PS
      But, if the VO server, indeed, is not located on the territory of the Russian Federation, then nothing will come of this venture.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 19 November 2015 03: 59 New
        0
        Quote: askort154
        But, if the VO server is really not located in the Russian Federation

        And this (moving the server to Russia) is one of the topics of one of the grants)).
  • Old26
    Old26 18 November 2015 08: 37 New
    +4
    Quote: Wajra-3
    The portal, of course, deserves to participate in the government funding program, based on the topics that it covers. And you need to try to get it. It is best for the development of individual areas (topics), and not the portal as a whole.

    Here is a really good idea. It is for the development of individual areas, and not as a whole. For as SibSlavRus wrote correctly, it is necessary that there are no rigid frames, because then it will almost certainly be "who pays, he calls the tune".
    I am for the appeal
  • Alex1977RUS
    Alex1977RUS 18 November 2015 08: 40 New
    +3
    Quote: atalef
    Quote: VseDoFeNi
    Our task is to nationalize the banking system, starting with the Central Bank, mineral resources and other natural resources.

    Earth - to the peasants, factories - to the workers, NEDRA - IN !!!

    - Earth to the workers! Factories to peasants!
    - It seems to be the other way around?
    - On the contrary, they tried. Something didn’t work out very well. (with)
    For the subject of the subject, in theory, yes, but in fact I'm afraid of being put over you by the head of the next double nephew of the sister of the second wife of the next official, who needs to be warmly attached for the official gesheft - you yourself will not be happy.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 18 November 2015 10: 07 New
      0
      Quote: Alex1977RUS
      On the subject of the subject, in theory, yes, but in fact I'm afraid of being sent over you by the head of the next double nephew of the sister of the second wife of the next official, who needs to be warmly attached for the official gesheft - you yourself will not be happy

      It is a possible option. And then the articles will be different and they will ban like on Echo, and in the end the site will have as many visitors as the same Echo. This is if it will be beneficial for someone to destroy the site.
  • Ilya 12
    Ilya 12 18 November 2015 08: 45 New
    +2
    Definitely FOR! it is necessary to develop this project and together with it to develop people who want to receive high-quality and interesting information.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 18 November 2015 08: 55 New
    +1
    Quote: askort154
    As I understand it, the article is probing our attitude to VO. Sorry, most of the discussion, someone led away
    flood. In my opinion, there is a problem and it must be solved. Therefore, the VO team needs to develop specific, in their opinion,
    suggestions and what kind of support is needed from us. Here, a proposal was made to apply for support to the Ministry of Defense. This is probably
    the most promising option. Moreover, you must contact Shoigu directly with the display of our support.

    Join
  • Aleksander
    Aleksander 18 November 2015 08: 58 New
    +2
    I would like to hope that the idea of ​​the “VO” team, related to the possible receipt of state financing, will first find approval among our readers

    Of course we do. Although I am sure that there will be no financing. Although I would like very much - the VO team deeply impresses me - decent, caring, intelligent people have chosen me.
    I take this opportunity to thank VO for their Good work, and a good job should (logically) be worthy of being paid. But in the Russian state, this ideal is far away.
    Nevertheless, GOOD LUCK!
  • anip
    anip 18 November 2015 09: 05 New
    -1
    if Military Review is quite consciously trying to bend the patriotic line, then it’s literally bathed in state funding,

    True patriotism on this site is often replaced by cheers-patriotism, zaputinizm.
    1. VseDoFeNi
      VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 09: 58 New
      +2
      Quote: anip
      True patriotism on this site is often replaced by cheers-patriotism, zaputinizm.

      And it happens exactly the opposite. laughing
    2. mishastich
      mishastich 18 November 2015 10: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: anip
      if Military Review is quite consciously trying to bend the patriotic line, then it’s literally bathed in state funding,

      True patriotism on this site is often replaced by cheers-patriotism, zaputinizm.



      Damn, well, many commentators are young, hot. And you blame them.)))
    3. Siberian38
      Siberian38 18 November 2015 10: 44 New
      +3
      Why not? The President must be respected! Great uncle! Only losers can not love their homeland.
      1. V.ic
        V.ic 18 November 2015 11: 03 New
        +2
        Quote: Siberian38
        Only losers can not love their homeland.

        Do you exclude de Bilov?
        1. VseDoFeNi
          VseDoFeNi 18 November 2015 17: 52 New
          0
          Quote: V.ic
          Do you exclude de Bilov?

          Morons are those who do not love their homeland. Morons, liberals and other mischief.
          1. V.ic
            V.ic 18 November 2015 20: 51 New
            +1
            Quote: VseDoFeNi
            Morons are those who do not love their homeland.

            Oh, is it? According to "their" concrete actions, they "loved" our Motherland in the most perverted form, and therefore I do not consider this category of humanoid homo sapiens at all.
            1. VseDoFeNi
              VseDoFeNi 19 November 2015 08: 14 New
              0
              Quote: V.ic
              Oh oh

              It was on YOUR principle that Russia was destroyed in 1917, 1991 and a bunch of other countries according to the same scenario in different years.

              Look, at least take Ukraine:
              Quote: Siberian38
              The President must be respected! Great uncle! Only losers may not love their homeland.

    4. vit357
      vit357 18 November 2015 11: 08 New
      0
      I’m embarrassed to ask, but by whom is it being replaced?)))