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G20: Putin says Obama listens, Cameron agrees

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At the reception at the Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu, held at the G20 summit, one of the most popular figures was Vladimir Putin. Moreover, Barack Obama said about the “importance of military efforts” of Russia in Syria. This gave analysts a reason to talk about the fact that Moscow is no longer an “outcast” in world politics. On the contrary, Russia is becoming a major player in the international arena.




As part of the G20 summit, a meeting took place between the Russian president and the American president B.Kh. Obama. Vladimir Putin spoke about the risks in the global economy, including in the light of the terrorist attacks in Paris.

“President Putin speaks of risks for the growth prospects of the world economy, including in the light of the recent Parisian attacks,” on Twitter the official Russian representative of the head of state (sherpa) in the "Big Twenty" Svetlana Lukash.

As the Russian Sherpa stated, during the reception of the Turkish Prime Minister at the G20 summit, Vladimir Putin turned out to be one of the most popular figures. “All the leaders talked on a par with representatives of civil society and business and various other formats who met in the year of the Turkish presidency. President Putin was one of the most popular figures at this reception, everyone wanted to communicate with him, ”Svetlana Lukash quotes. "Lenta.ru".

According to Lukash, the meeting of the presidents of Russia and the United States was held in an “absolutely benevolent, absolutely constructive” manner.

During the conversation, Obama and Putin came to a single conclusion: in Syria, the transfer of power is necessary, and it will be carried out by the Syrians themselves. The process will be preceded by negotiations under the auspices of the UN. This American official told the Reuters reporter, notes RBC.

One of the most important topics of the summit was the problem of world terrorism, aggravated after the bloody terrorist attacks in Paris. At the current G20 summit is expected to adopt a statement on terrorism. States want to redouble their efforts to combat the financing of terrorism, establish border controls and improve flight safety. It is also expected that calls for better coordination and information sharing will be recorded on paper. The terrorists of IG must be cut off from financing, including oil trading on the black market. This was stated by interlocutors «Bloomberg».

And one more statement: on Sunday, at a meeting with President Francois Hollande, former French President Nicolas Sarkozy said: "There can be no two coalitions in Syria." Recall that at the end of October, Sarkozy visited Moscow.

Unlike last year’s summit in Australia, when Western leaders avoided Putin, the Russian president in Antalya, who actually led the fight against IG, was perhaps the most popular leader, writes Alexander Bratersky. Gazeta.ru. B. H. Obama at a meeting with Vladimir Putin noted the "importance of military efforts" of Russia in Syria.

These words, which positively characterize the actions of Moscow against the IG, run counter to the criticism of Russia adopted by the White House. Until recently, Washington insisted, a columnist reminds that a significant part of the Russian air strikes are inflicted not on the positions of the "IG", but on the "rebels". Accordingly, the White House considered Putin’s strategy “counterproductive.”

Experts - both Western and Russian - talked about changing the "tone" of Washington. The Wall Street Journal writes directly that the White House’s comments after the meeting of the two presidents at the G20 summit testify to the “change in tone” of the US administration regarding the actions of the Russian Federation in Syria.

The head of the Presidium of the Council on Foreign and Defense Policy Fyodor Lukyanov, whose opinion also leads Gazeta.ru, called the statement of the American President a “curious nuance” of the US policy regarding the Russian military operation in Syria. The expert noted that the focus of the West on the Syrian events "shifted." “The events that took place in France shift this focus even more - everyone understands the importance of delivering a military strike against the Islamists,” said F. Lukyanov.

The “curious nuance” is confirmed by the statement by US presidential adviser on security, Ben Rhodes. According to him, which leads InterfaxThe United States, together with France, is planning to intensify the air strikes at the position of "IG". And not only in Syria, but also in Iraq. According to Rhodes, airstrikes will be inflicted on the "pain points" of jihadists.

He also noted that IG has intentions to organize terrorist attacks against all members of the international coalition. At the same time, the United States does not have data on threats to their national security.

TASS handed over a statement from British Prime Minister David Cameron. He said that the positions of Russia and Great Britain regarding the need to defeat the "Islamic State" coincide.

And just became aware that David Cameron intends to discuss with the president of Russia at the G20 summit aviation safety issues.

Recall a few days ago стало известноthat in the framework of the new national security strategy London is preparing to recognize Russia as “a threat of a higher order”. The founding strategic document should be presented to 23 on November by the same Cameron. According to an unnamed source in the government, Russia was on the list of the main threats because of the policy towards Ukraine, the expansion of the military presence in Kaliningrad and operations in Syria.

As you can see, the position of Western leaders is changing before our eyes. It is unlikely, of course, that Russia is removed from the list of “threats”, but after the brutal Islamist terrorist attacks in Paris, a rapprochement between the West and Moscow became obvious even to the most ardent “anti-Soviet” supporters of the Cold War and the arms race. Obama, and especially Cameron, who, in essence, repeats Obama, is unlikely to continue to “stigmatize” Russia for its “counterproductive” strategy in Syria. On the contrary, the current G20 summit will begin counting the days to the strategic rapprochement of the Middle East coalition between Russia, Iran and Syria and a coalition led by the United States that has not yet given effective results in the fight against IG.

Sarkozy is right this time: "There can be no two coalitions in Syria."

There can not be two coalitions where the world has one enemy - terrorism. The West sees late, but better late than never.

Let's hope this insight becomes historical the outcome of the GXNUMX Summit.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. Aleksander
    Aleksander 16 November 2015 08: 54 New
    33
    This gave analysts the opportunity to talk about the fact that Moscow is no longer an “outcast” in world politics.


    Russia was an outcast only in the sore heads of Western pompous fools ....
    1. cniza
      cniza 16 November 2015 08: 58 New
      24
      As you can see, the position of Western leaders is changing before our eyes. It is unlikely, of course, that Russia is removed from the list of “threats”, but after the brutal Islamist terrorist attacks in Paris, a rapprochement between the West and Moscow became obvious even to the most ardent “anti-Soviet” supporters of the Cold War and the arms race. Obama, and especially Cameron, who, in essence, repeats Obama, is unlikely to continue to “stigmatize” Russia for its “counterproductive” strategy in Syria. On the contrary, the current G20 summit will begin counting the days to the strategic rapprochement of the Middle East coalition between Russia, Iran and Syria and a coalition led by the United States that has not yet given effective results in the fight against IG.





      I do not believe them and I think our leadership understands this very well
      1. Cthulhu
        Cthulhu 16 November 2015 09: 02 New
        41
        + I don’t believe them either, well, I don’t believe that. It's just that gentlemen got into time trouble after the terrorist attacks in Paris. Now they will come up with a new training manual that Russia is to blame for everything and Putin personally instructed the terrorists, and everything will return to square one.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 16 November 2015 09: 19 New
          13
          No need for them to come up with any manuals. Let them look at the dill sites, they have already come up with everything and put it on the shelves.
        2. My doctor
          My doctor 16 November 2015 10: 16 New
          12
          I do not agree with the author of the article Russia is gradually being isolated step by step from the world, due to the fact that this is happening gradually, we did not notice that the dividing gulf became so huge. Not believing in this, we seize on illusions, for example, a year ago we were comforted by the fact that Merkel took a balanced position in the confrontation between Russia and the USA, now the idea seems naive.
          And further. The Council of the IAAF (International Association of Athletics Federations) on Friday suspended the membership of the All-Russian Athletics Federation (VFLA), and the issue of removing Russian athletes from participation in the 2016 Olympic Games in Rio de Janeiro is being considered.
          In your opinion, is this not isolation?
          1. nekot
            nekot 16 November 2015 11: 14 New
            +4
            From the western world, this is a big difference.
            1. silinigo
              silinigo 16 November 2015 18: 32 New
              +6
              And why is this Western world so good ??
              1. silinigo
                silinigo 16 November 2015 21: 51 New
                +1
                and why all the LIBERASTS are so eager to go there .. ::
                1. Alena Frolovna
                  Alena Frolovna 17 November 2015 00: 59 New
                  +3
                  My doctor
                  Russia is being gradually isolated step by step from the world, due to the fact that this is happening gradually, we did not notice that the dividing gulf became so huge.

                  Chronicles of isolation.
                  Saudi Arabia, UAE, Jordan, Egypt, Israel, Turkey, Palestine, Iraq, Iran and Kuwait visiting Putin

          2. olegator
            olegator 16 November 2015 13: 00 New
            +9
            isolation is a double-edged sword. this is the first thing. secondly, how can such a huge country be isolated? no way. only the west is self-isolating from us. and on health in general. and all these scandals with doping and so on - sucked from the finger. the goal is to somehow bite Russia. now it will become clear that everything is in order in our federation. but there will be no apologies. as the saying goes: "spoons were found, but the sediment remained ..." so all this is not called isolation, but an attempt to discredit in any available and paid directions. will burst soon with this isolation.
            1. maiman61
              maiman61 16 November 2015 15: 21 New
              +3
              Isolate, do not even doubt it!
              1. guard
                guard 16 November 2015 19: 28 New
                +4
                Worse than the war with the Anglo-Saxons can only be friendship with them!
                I don’t remember who said it, but I think the change of tone with regard to Russia should be considered in this vein, and I think the West will not soon forget whose fault their policy seems to be not quite adequate. With one hand they will slap on the shoulder, admire, and what they will have behind their back and, when the opportunity arises, cannot be used, there is no doubt!
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          3. Xergey
            Xergey 16 November 2015 15: 18 New
            +2
            And it seems to me that from our country a paradise will soon turn out where there is a person’s rights, there is the essence and possibility of life, and when drug addicts from Europe realize that it’s impossible to live like that, and this will be for 2-3 years, then all questions will be be decided in Moscow, and they will come to us for consultations on what and how to do next, it is clear that there will be another government like Lipen, etc. but it will happen, it’s for sure, and investments will flow, while there will be an opportunity to export production to Russia, which will be robbed and destroyed in Europe by the brothers to whom they now provide housing and expel their citizens. the dollar and the euro will no longer be needed, the Americans will begin to fade even faster, so I think this is not isolation but the preparation of the elite of a quiet haven for further life, especially since there are all the prerequisites, such as the scandal with Volkswagen, and large fines for Western banks.
            1. ancient
              ancient 16 November 2015 15: 22 New
              -4
              Quote: KSergey
              And it seems to me that from our country a paradise will soon turn out where a person has rights, there is an essence and possibility of life,


              What planet are you from, dear, .. "arrived"? belay Or on the contrary .. maybe from the morning they "puffed" something like that .. "fierce", that already the beginning is like that ... "seems"? wassat
              1. Yorgven
                Yorgven 16 November 2015 16: 19 New
                +2
                The Soviet Union collapsed in 91. Congratulations on getting out of a coma
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              2. sssla
                sssla 16 November 2015 20: 01 New
                -1
                Quote: ancient
                What planet are you from, dear, .. "arrived"? Or on the contrary .. maybe from the morning they "puffed" something like that .. "fierce", that already the beginning is like that ... "seems"?

                Are you talking to yourself "dear" ??? Probably you need to see a doctor !!!
                1. ancient
                  ancient 16 November 2015 21: 41 New
                  +1
                  Quote: sssla
                  Probably you need a doctor !!!


                  It may very well be ... because. look at all this ... already no nerves are not enough .... or everyone is already "embraced" so much that ... ???
                  By the way about the doctors .. we already have to pass the tests, before going to the therapist we need to "lay out" 7 "pieces" in rubles .. well, the first visit is the same wassat
                  Do you know the size of pensions and salaries ????
                  So which of us needs a doctor ... this is another ... question lol
                  1. sssla
                    sssla 16 November 2015 22: 06 New
                    0
                    Quote: ancient
                    Do you know the size of pensions and salaries ????

                    This is where you let me inquire ??? Judging by the flag on the screen of 7 pieces of dollyarets ??? Sin complain smile hi
                  2. sssla
                    sssla 16 November 2015 22: 09 New
                    -1
                    Quote: ancient
                    It may very well be ... because. look at all this ... already no nerves are not enough .... or everyone is already "embraced" so much that ... ???
                    By the way about the doctors .. we already have to pass the tests, before going to the therapist we need to "lay out" 7 "pieces" in rubles .. well, the first visit is the same
                    Do you know the size of pensions and salaries ????
                    So which of us needs a doctor ... this is another ... question

                    So it was always and not only in our USSR, but before and after, and others will !!! If there are short periods when there will be "WRONG", it will not be long !!
          4. trantor
            trantor 16 November 2015 16: 02 New
            +3
            Quote: MyVrach
            so became a huge dividing gap.

            In some areas, this is even pleasing.
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          6. silinigo
            silinigo 16 November 2015 21: 49 New
            -2
            ata what I thought .. gdp is also a GAYROPEETS !!
        3. veksha50
          veksha50 16 November 2015 10: 29 New
          +4
          Quote: Cthulhu
          It's just that gentlemen got into time trouble after the terrorist attacks in Paris. Now they’ll come up with a new training manual that Russia is to blame for everything and Putin personally instructed the terrorists,



          Hmm ... Well, yesterday, after all, only Gerashchenko said that in the French terrorist attacks one should look for a trace of the Russian special services ...

          PS Why are there so many idiots in high government posts ???
        4. ancient
          ancient 16 November 2015 11: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: Cthulhu
          + I don’t believe them either, well, I don’t believe that.


          Well, what's the point of it .. you believe "them" or do not believe request ? And I "do not believe them" and never believed .. what has changed from this? ... "Lost" colleagues, partners ... "brotherly peoples"? wassat

          I read the "news" ... look, read ... and ... think
          1. ancient
            ancient 16 November 2015 11: 32 New
            +3
            Quote: ancient
            I read the "news" ... look, read ... and ... think


            Dear moderators .. why did you not like the news? Undermines the authority of "himself" or does not correspond to the truth ???? wassat
            1. Azitral
              Azitral 16 November 2015 13: 30 New
              +4
              For three or four years, they had heard so much shameless lie, vile insinuations about Russia, had seen enough of a consistent, elevated to the principle of applying double standards from the sweet couple of the United States - Britain, that we do not believe in anything good on their part. Enemies If, right now, politics and rhetoric are changed by 189 degrees (and this does not threaten us), some confidence will be restored in ten years, not earlier. What besides bad things to expect from the country of villains?
          2. sssla
            sssla 16 November 2015 20: 02 New
            -2
            Quote: ancient
            And I "do not believe them" and never believed .. what has changed from this?
        5. ava09
          ava09 16 November 2015 19: 20 New
          0
          Quote: Cthulhu
          I don’t believe them either, well, I don’t believe them.


          What don't you believe in? Is it that they are spreading their "values" all over the world under the guise of "democracy"? Terrorism in the Middle East and Europe, Nazism in Ukraine, depending on the mentality of the aborigines.
      2. oleg-gr
        oleg-gr 16 November 2015 09: 04 New
        +4
        The West needs to get out of the Syrian adventure without losing face. GDP provides such an opportunity. That rhetoric is changing. The effectiveness of the actions of the Western coalition in Syria is lower than the plinth, compared with the Russian Federation.
        1. Altona
          Altona 16 November 2015 09: 09 New
          +3
          Quote: oleg-gr
          The West needs to get out of the Syrian adventure without losing face. GDP provides such an opportunity.

          -----------------------
          They already have to get out of their adventure, the EU is falling apart before our eyes ...
          1. Sober
            Sober 16 November 2015 09: 35 New
            0
            Quote: Altona
            The EU is falling apart before our eyes.

            Yes, it actually fell apart. Borders on the castle, Everyone is already openly talking about discontent with each other, disagreements on emigrants ... ... There is still a skin that unites them, various political superstructures.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 16 November 2015 09: 47 New
          +3
          Quote: oleg-gr
          GDP provides such an opportunity. That rhetoric is changing.


          The rhetoric of Western leaders is not worth a dime. They are firm masters of their word (like: my word, I want - I give, I want - I take back). Now they are smiling, and tomorrow they will arrange some kind of prank or throw mud. But you can't go anywhere, you need to talk and negotiate, we have no other "neighbors" on the planet. (And the President's Sherpa - Svetlana Lukash - not Psaki).
          1. veksha50
            veksha50 16 November 2015 10: 32 New
            11
            Quote: Lelek
            And the president’s sherpa



            Guys, explain to the old man - what is it (or who is the president's "Sherpa" ???) ..
            Well, by God, I can’t get it ...

            PS Here is another example of filthy Russian language ...
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 16 November 2015 11: 48 New
              +5
              Here is another example of filthy Russian language
              I agree one hundred percent! Therefore, I despise all these false patriots, speaking on strange. And sherpa is the confidant of the head.
              1. oblako
                oblako 16 November 2015 12: 07 New
                +4
                Sherp - porter ё!)))
              2. veksha50
                veksha50 16 November 2015 20: 50 New
                0
                Quote: Gardamir
                And sherpa is the confidant of the head.



                Thank you ... It turned out - simple and intelligible ...
            2. Azitral
              Azitral 16 November 2015 13: 23 New
              +3
              "Sherpa" is a representative of the Sherpa people living in Tibet and the Himalayas. Traditionally, they served as porters for white masters, when they wanted to climb Everest or Chogo-Ri. Can you imagine? They climbed in there, and even with a load, and the conquerors were white gentlemen. But Sherpa Tenzing is considered, along with Hillary, the conquerors of Everest. Allegorically: an assistant who, while remaining in the boss's shadow, does most of the work.
            3. lukke
              lukke 16 November 2015 15: 42 New
              0
              Yeah, but with reference to the Anglo-Saxons - like music!)
              For example: Gunpowder is Obama's Sherpa! or Merkel - Obama sherpa!
        3. Egoza
          Egoza 16 November 2015 10: 39 New
          +3
          Quote: oleg-gr
          The West needs to get out of the Syrian adventure without losing face.

          "He who dines with pride will dine in poverty." Let them now run after Russia and clean up what they have done with their own hands. Eh! Here I would also like to add Ukraine to the cleaning plan!
        4. ancient
          ancient 16 November 2015 14: 59 New
          +3
          Quote: oleg-gr
          The West needs to get out of the Syrian adventure without losing face.


          Are you sure that the West needs to .. "save face"? Before WHOM? Before us ... I beg you lol

          Quote: oleg-gr
          GDP provides such a chance to them.


          So far, the GDP is performing yet another "deflection" before the West in the form of a speech by Siluanov on the restructuring of the debt in 3 lard green wassat
          Although the moderators deleted my "news", but it already appears in all news media, as well as on TV (News Russia 24) hi

          Quote: oleg-gr
          That rhetoric is changing.


          Dreamer wassat Ukraine mourns for those killed in Paris - Permanent Representative to the UN Sergeyev



          According to Yuri Sergeyev, Ukraine, which became a victim of Russian aggressionnine???!!! belay , perfectly understands the pain and grief of the fraternal French people

          Notice .. not some kind of another clown in the form of ... I will not even call these names .. "colleagues and partners", but an OFFICIAL PERSON and where .. not in LJ or on Facebook, but at a SESSION ... and what ..... broke off diplomatic relations at least? request

          And you say those .. "provided" .. "changes" wassat

          Quote: oleg-gr
          The effectiveness of the actions of the Western coalition in Syria is below the plinth,


          Do not indulge yourself with "urya-patriotic" illusions! soldier
          As the main puppeteer plans so they, the Western coalition, and .. "act" no more, no less.
          Look ... for what period Hussein was completely "finished", and there the armed forces were no match for the igil gangs wassat
          1. maiman61
            maiman61 16 November 2015 15: 25 New
            +3
            The West has no face, only a nasty face! Therefore, they have nothing to fear from losing their faces!
          2. senat
            senat 16 November 2015 18: 38 New
            +2
            I completely agree with you, I heard in the news and almost crashed from a chair. And how they shouted, how they shouted, for no reason, never. Damn all mood spoiled GDP. It hurts me that my country has such leaders.
          3. Botanologist
            Botanologist 16 November 2015 23: 30 New
            0
            Greetings!

            Do not start. Now is the time - horseradish will break his head, how and where to twitch.
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      5. Gani
        Gani 16 November 2015 12: 08 New
        +1
        plus you)), but even if our leadership understands that YOU don’t believe them, do you think it will definitely listen to YOU? hi
        1. ancient
          ancient 16 November 2015 15: 24 New
          +1
          Quote: Gani
          Does it necessarily listen to you?


          Do you mean that .. for me soon .. "come"? bully +! drinks
      6. Asadullah
        Asadullah 16 November 2015 16: 00 New
        +1
        On the contrary, the current G20 summit will begin the countdown of days until the strategic rapprochement of the Middle East coalition of Russia, Iran and Syria and the US-led coalition has not yet yielded effective results in the fight against ISIS.


        There will be no rapprochement. Stupidly divide the areas of responsibility and air corridors. What the military has already done in practice. Now politicians will put on a piece of paper.
      7. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 16 November 2015 17: 43 New
        +2
        all considered everything?
      8. silinigo
        silinigo 16 November 2015 18: 30 New
        +3
        And our "leadership" in the face of GDP dill..BATS !! and forgiven the debt! and Gazprom managers a salary of 7 million rubles. per month! Hosanna GDP !!!
      9. zheka
        zheka 17 November 2015 00: 47 New
        0
        Putin all bent !!!!
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    2. Vladimyrych
      Vladimyrych 16 November 2015 09: 00 New
      +2
      I call it "not healthy wet dreams".
      As they say, dreaming is not harmful. It’s not harmful to dream.
    3. GRAY
      GRAY 16 November 2015 09: 00 New
      +3
      Another confirmation that the brains of Western leaders fall into place only under the influence of stars.
    4. skayl
      skayl 16 November 2015 09: 02 New
      0
      But fools were, are and will be, the current in time on the head must be baled! angry
    5. guzik007
      guzik007 16 November 2015 09: 03 New
      0
      You involuntarily remember the immortal from Vladimir Ilyich: Political ... sex workers.
      1. ydjin
        ydjin 16 November 2015 17: 41 New
        0
        Quote: guzik007
        You involuntarily remember the immortal from Vladimir Ilyich: Political ... sex workers.

        Tell me bluntly, political prostitutes. What really shy the words of the classic? PS the word is simple. The institute without the point is forbidden, albeit literary! Like tolerance overtook us here too?
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 16 November 2015 17: 47 New
        +8
        Quote: guzik007
        Involuntarily you recall the immortal from Vladimir Ilyich:
        1. egor1712
          egor1712 16 November 2015 20: 01 New
          0
          Cool! Put a plus. Very accurate and subtle.
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    7. Finches
      Finches 16 November 2015 09: 11 New
      13
      The Anglo-Saxons are inveterate hypocrites and cunning! They opened a "second front" against Hitler for 4 years, and now they clearly want us to do all the dirty work in Syria, and they will just mow down like fools - and then they will present themselves as peacekeepers and quickly lay their hands on oil in the regions , which is now controlled by IS, after we bomb them! Along the way, they also blame Russia for all mortal sins - such as the revival of the empire and the expansion of the red threat to the democratic Middle East! That's all their "epiphany"!
      1. mirag2
        mirag2 16 November 2015 09: 20 New
        +3
        And I think this: after the terrorist attacks in Paris, the West will say everything, you can’t endure anymore — the troops of the USA and France, there ISIS and the remnants of Assad’s army will be demolished, under the pretext that Assad is a dictator and a beast, almost the same as and ISIS.
        And for the Russian Federation it will be said this: either you are with us, or against us ...
        ps maybe the worst option, in any way, the Syrians will be blamed for the Paris events.
        1. mirag2
          mirag2 16 November 2015 09: 22 New
          +1
          That is, the situation will again turn in a favorable manner for itself, and not beneficial for the Russian Federation, forcing to stop Assad’s support.
        2. ancient
          ancient 16 November 2015 15: 04 New
          0
          Quote: mirag2
          And I think so:


          The thought has a place to be soldier +! drinks
      2. mirag2
        mirag2 16 November 2015 09: 28 New
        0
        Anglo-Saxons - inveterate hypocrites and cunning!
        - Yes, in the 18th or 17th century in England either the school of lies (liars) or the university officially worked ...
    8. Vend
      Vend 16 November 2015 09: 50 New
      0
      Quote: Aleksander
      This gave analysts the opportunity to talk about the fact that Moscow is no longer an “outcast” in world politics.


      Russia was an outcast only in the sore heads of Western pompous fools ....

      Speaking of outcasts.
      1. dsi
        dsi 16 November 2015 10: 04 New
        +6
        There are 19 of them! And the twentieth, what is taking pictures? smile
      2. Captain45
        Captain45 16 November 2015 10: 21 New
        +7
        Quote: Wend
        Speaking of outcasts.


        Quote: dsi
        They are here 19! And the twentieth, what is taking pictures? smile

        Dear Wend, this is a photo of linden, crap, fake because In the photo is Hollande, but it is officially announced that France is represented on 20 by the Minister of Foreign Affairs and the Minister of Finance. Hollande did not go to Antalya! hiNow the news briefly showed the meeting between Putin and Merkel, ours sits smiling, and the Fraucanzlerin looks as if she had only escaped from under the NBA team, her entire face was twisted. Although it’s possible they’ve specifically removed it from this angle, but it’s still hard to see the old woman lol
        1. Finches
          Finches 16 November 2015 10: 38 New
          +5
          I think that if from under the NBA team, the chancellor would smile ... laughing
        2. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 16 November 2015 12: 09 New
          +2
          Quote: Captain45
          only from under the NBA team broke out,

          If she got her face out, it would be pretty!
      3. veksha50
        veksha50 16 November 2015 10: 41 New
        +2
        Quote: Wend
        Speaking of outcasts.



        Hmm ... Photography is just an element of diplomatic etiquette ...

        But of this twenty, only India, China and Brazil are not enemies to us ... And then Brazil already spoke out against the Russian operation in Syria in a negative light ...

        So there are practically no TAM friends (in G20) ...

        They are afraid ... they hate ... they are wary ... - this is - yes ...

        So the GDP from yesterday is again at the forefront of the front ...
        1. Oleg14774
          Oleg14774 16 November 2015 12: 10 New
          +2
          Quote: veksha50
          So there are practically no TAM friends (in G20) ...

          They are not there at all!
        2. plebs
          plebs 17 November 2015 02: 27 New
          +1
          So the GDP from yesterday is again at the forefront of the front ...
          Already finished in the galleys, now I went to the front, Eagle !!!
      4. IAlex
        IAlex 16 November 2015 14: 38 New
        0
        20 Turkeys 2015 ...
    9. marlin1203
      marlin1203 16 November 2015 10: 34 New
      0
      A rogue is not a rogue ... who can resist the United States, who is strong enough and is not afraid (and there are few of them) will always be a target for Americans and, accordingly, receive a variety of nicknames. And in general, we are not a carrot to please everyone. America in general is hated almost all over the world and nothing ... people live and spit on the "progressive world community", they also bomb whoever they want. That's really who the "outcast" ...
    10. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 16 November 2015 12: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: Aleksander
      Russia was an outcast only in the sore heads of Western pompous fools ....

      I think that the Amerov’s Anglican special services somewhere strongly pierced and ours took them for feberge. Because Tony has changed, and not because they suddenly realized that Mother Russia is doing everything right.
      1. Karlovar
        Karlovar 16 November 2015 14: 15 New
        0
        A possible take for Faberge on the topic of the Malaysian Boeing ...., well, on the little things back and forth ...
    11. revnagan
      revnagan 16 November 2015 12: 33 New
      +1
      Quote: Aleksander
      Russia was an outcast only in the sore heads of Western pompous fools ....

      Do not be so naive. It was just a game, "an evil policeman." Now the second phase is a "good policeman." Everything is within the framework of the West's strategy: "You cannot resist, join and lead." You will see, now the West will flatteringly praise Russia, in order to thus gain influence on it and ... persuade it to the decision it (the West) needs.
    12. maiman61
      maiman61 16 November 2015 15: 20 New
      +3
      Anglo-Saxons were, are and will always be enemies of Russia! Whoever does not understand this is an absolute fool!
    13. silinigo
      silinigo 16 November 2015 21: 57 New
      -4
      I am becoming more and more convinced .. that GDP is not only an outcast .. but also LEASED !!
      1. shaman2001
        shaman2001 17 November 2015 00: 08 New
        0
        Please explain your idea.
    14. plebs
      plebs 17 November 2015 02: 33 New
      0
      Russia was an outcast only in the sore heads of Western pompous fools ....
      For centuries, Russia has been an outcast in the eyes of Europe, whoever did not rule with us. And nothing has changed.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 16 November 2015 08: 58 New
    +4
    The threat of Islamic extremism will not go anywhere, as long as it is funded by the United States and Western countries .. And the coalition with Russia is from the evil one ..
  3. avvg
    avvg 16 November 2015 08: 59 New
    +2
    Putin says: "Do you at least understand what you've done," Obama listens, and Cameron agrees.
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 16 November 2015 10: 27 New
      +2
      Quote: avvg
      Putin says: "Do you at least understand what you've done," Obama listens, and Cameron agrees.

      But still do not understand lol Or like dogs, they understand everything, but they can’t say it.
  4. skayl
    skayl 16 November 2015 08: 59 New
    0
    The obvious always pops up and who would doubt from normal people at the expense of Russia!
  5. izya top
    izya top 16 November 2015 09: 00 New
    +2
    annoying infa annoying me that our dill are preparing to restructure No. just the rumor went after the conversation of the most influential gay icon
    1. perm23
      perm23 16 November 2015 09: 17 New
      +3
      And what do we do then. All our businessmen tied to the West will put pressure on them to forgive the debt, they are on power. We are still breaking, but we will give in, the first conversations have already begun. I am ashamed of all this. We do not forgive our citizens; we issue loans to ourselves at predatory interest. And here, please - those who shout that we are aggressors, we will also forgive debts - apologize damn it.
      1. maiman61
        maiman61 16 November 2015 15: 30 New
        +2
        And the power of ten skins is tearing from its citizens!
  6. Combitor
    Combitor 16 November 2015 09: 00 New
    +3
    ....................
  7. igorka357
    igorka357 16 November 2015 09: 02 New
    +2
    Russia has always been a major player on the world stage! Even in the nineties, when in fact it didn’t represent anything, I still had to reckon with it .. The geopolitical and geographical position of our Motherland always gave it an advantage over others, yet we have half the continent under our feet, this cannot be ignored, we have huge territories and huge natural resources!
    1. izya top
      izya top 16 November 2015 09: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: igorka357
      Russia has always been a major player on the world stage!

      so, a piece of the article repeat
      But then the wind changed, and it turned out that all these ideological constructions were made of fog, which very easily changes shape and shape. And that in fact there is another round of some very long-standing family scandal. And Russia in this whole conglomerate of brothers, sisters, grandfathers, godfathers and aunts is, say, a cousin - living on the outskirts of the thicket, with strange ideas in his head, with rude manners, terribly rich, but living the devil-by-standards more “civilized” relatives, and it seems to be as simple as felt boots, but if something else, it pads around the neck so that it doesn’t seem enough.
  8. alex-cn
    alex-cn 16 November 2015 09: 03 New
    +2
    Considering the successes of the "pro-Russian" coalition in Syria, Western statements are more reminiscent of attempts to make it to "share the pie."
  9. vladimirw
    vladimirw 16 November 2015 09: 05 New
    +1
    The West sets the Russian Federation forward as a leader in the fight against IS, thereby substituting us for IS attacks!
  10. inpu
    inpu 16 November 2015 09: 05 New
    0
    B. H. Obama

    Recognizable)))
  11. petr1965
    petr1965 16 November 2015 09: 06 New
    +1
    Finish things in Syria and make for Ukraine
  12. Dezinto
    Dezinto 16 November 2015 09: 09 New
    +7
    Do not agree to anything! Nifiga this G20 will not solve, and there will be no results, the snowball has already rolled from the mountain ....



    They will talk, discuss who to what extent in ..ope and disperse .... (IMHO)
  13. perm23
    perm23 16 November 2015 09: 13 New
    +2
    It’s just that Russia is needed now, so the mongrel began to sing. And so we are like a bone in the throat. At any opportunity, they will bite us again. These people cannot do otherwise. It is only necessary that our government and people understand this forever. There can be no friendship here, nor allies. We have two allies - the army and navy of Russia. It is not in vain that they rekindle the massacre in the Donbass in order to introduce the world to evil Putin and evil Russians.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 16 November 2015 09: 52 New
      -2
      Quote: perm23
      It’s just that Russia is needed now, so the mongrel began to sing.



      I recall one of Vanga’s predictions. yes
    2. Drozd-den
      Drozd-den 16 November 2015 12: 40 New
      0
      We have two allies - the army and navy of Russia. There is such a wonderful toast: To our tanks in Washington! And this will be so if the US does not change its way of life. The United States is no longer a hegemon, and it has never been one, just bravado, deceit and lies. China and Russia are the ones who will plug everyone in live, if they are in one bunch. And then for sure our tanks will be in Washington. Like two fingers ...
  14. meriem1
    meriem1 16 November 2015 09: 14 New
    +2
    Fracture in a relationship ??? Unfortunately, this fracture seems to be forced !!! It’s just that the electorate of the West will not understand if you continue to brand Russia! But this is only a respite. Although I would like to believe that this is not so.
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 November 2015 14: 22 New
      0
      The respite is already good ...
  15. John22
    John22 16 November 2015 09: 15 New
    -31 qualifying.
    The undoubted advantages of the Putin-Serdyukov system:
    1.the ability to present oneself, the so-called. "coolness". But the background of bald Europeans "macho-men" looks cool. Especially in foreign policy.
    2.Corruption !!! That's great!!!
    3. Fake elections (as in the USSR)! Super!
    4. Absorption of ALL significant media for fooling (as in the USSR) !!!
    5. Creation of specific princes (as in the USSR)? Super!
    6. Fake deputies (as in the USSR)!
    7. Arms race (as in the USSR)!
    8. Enemies around (as in the USSR)!
    9. Prisons for political opponents? (as in the USSR) Super !!!

    Economics in ....
    State construction in the ...
    Democracy in ....
    Country in .....
    All in ...

    And where are its advantages then ??
    Who can name at least one achievement? (except Crimea). And some here are happy as Obamych shook his hand. Yes, when the Papuans from Zimbabwe come to Russia, they also kiss and hug. They give them great tricks. :)

    ps The minimum wage for civil servants in Gabon is 160 dollars. Medium - 360. And why didn’t Gabon send troops to Syria?
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 16 November 2015 10: 05 New
      11
      Quote: John22
      And where are its advantages then ??
      Who can name at least one achievement? (except Crimea). And some here are happy as Obamych shook his hand. Yes, when the Papuans from Zimbabwe come to Russia, they also kiss and hug. They give them great tricks. :)


      If in Russia everything is "in f ....", why not relocate to you where everything is in openwork ?!
    2. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 16 November 2015 10: 15 New
      +8
      Quote: John22
      3. Fake elections (as in the USSR)! Super!
      - conduct your personal survey. And who do you think will be able to replace Putin? Zhirinovsky? Zyuganov?
      Quote: John22
      4. Absorption of ALL significant media for fooling (as in the USSR) !!!
      - Internet for what? I haven’t been watching TV for 10 years already ...
      Quote: John22
      7. Arms race (as in the USSR)!
      - we started it?
      Quote: John22
      8. Enemies around (as in the USSR)!
      - and not only during the USSR - since the creation of Russia. Do not like it - go to Germany. There are no enemies around, the USA will protect you there. Just don’t talk about German independence ...
      1. Karlovar
        Karlovar 16 November 2015 14: 25 New
        0
        Benya Nadezhdin, for example, than not the president ???))))))
    3. dsi
      dsi 16 November 2015 10: 16 New
      14
      Economics in ....
      State construction in the ...
      Democracy in ....
      Country in .....
      All in ...

      Are you a proctologist ?! I guessed!)))
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 16 November 2015 10: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: dsi
        Are you a proctologist ?! I guessed!)))

        Where he looks, he sees!
        1. aksakal
          aksakal 16 November 2015 20: 55 New
          0
          Quote: Captain45
          Where he looks, he sees!
          - Do not insult doctors. John22 lives in ... but somehow thinks that he lives in Russia. There is schizophrenic disorder. You would help the patient, explain to him that his place of residence is not Russia
      2. noWAR
        noWAR 16 November 2015 11: 22 New
        +2
        Quote: dsi
        Are you a proctologist ?! I guessed!)))

        he is not a proctologist; he is just a kyu!
    4. Saburov
      Saburov 16 November 2015 11: 14 New
      +8
      Quote: John22

      1.the ability to present oneself, the so-called. "coolness". But the background of bald Europeans "macho-men" looks cool. Especially in foreign policy.
      2.Corruption !!! That's great!!!
      3. Fake elections (as in the USSR)! Super!
      4. Absorption of ALL significant media for fooling (as in the USSR) !!!
      5. Creation of specific princes (as in the USSR)? Super!
      6. Fake deputies (as in the USSR)!
      7. Arms race (as in the USSR)!
      8. Enemies around (as in the USSR)!
      9. Prisons for political opponents? (as in the USSR) Super !!!

      1) And why not, we need to take the PR campaign into service.
      2) Corruption is inevitable in any capitalist system, the only difference is how quickly it reaches the highest echelons of power, that is, the period, for example, in the USA, the Fed two years ago could not report the disappearance of almost 8 billions of green or in France where on bribes from banks like Credit Agricole, half of the civil servants are seated, while we still have corruption in the wild.
      3) The respected elections in the USSR were held at local levels and by deputies, you fall into ignorance of the state system and these elections were quite honest and you could choose at least Vasya from the collective farm to replace the chairman of the District Committee or the deputy in the Central Committee of the CPSU. Read less liberal dumb-headed public.
      4) What are you saying, but in capitalist countries it means otherwise? Remember once and for all, INDEPENDENT MEDIA DOES NOT EXIST, they need to be maintained, because they earn only on advertising, and someone gives them money, so who gives it and orders what to tell them, who to poop and whom to praise, by the way, in the USSR there was no such der ... in the newspapers, on television and on the radio, and the people were smart, reading and thinking, but for a European, if you have never been there, television is a sacred truth and all that is said of it, so here you are fundamentally wrong, or deliberately lying.
      5) In the USSR there was central authority and there were no princes, if it appeared, then the article of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR with confiscation quickly found it, this is in the best case ... but it makes no sense to complain if local princes oppress you, then contact the authorities, for each large fish, there is a larger one.
      6) You can spit in the face of the one who told you this, deputies in the USSR really (do not get out of your chair) defended the interests of peasants and workers, at least until 1985, for the rest, see paragraph 3), including trade unions in the USSR the most powerful in the world and defended the rights of workers, you would at least honor the Constitution of the USSR for a start, otherwise you are utter nonsense.
      7) And if they are preparing to beat you and go behind your back, what are you doing, running away or getting ready for a fight? The USSR had to conduct an arms race, you open the 1985 map and look around which country the arms of NATO and the USA were concentrated, so blaming the USSR for an arms race is stupid, because we did not start it.
      8) You are probably one of those people who believe that Hitler would have done much better for the Russian people than Stalin and should live like in Europe (go under someone and yap on command) And you didn’t worry about the fact that no matter what political device in Russia, monarchy, parliamentary republic, communism, socialism, democracy, ochlocracy ... always the same gentlemen from foggy albion, trying to put us in the wheel, and 100 years ago, overseas colleagues also joined them, so Russia will always have enemies while it si b on-it is an axiom.
      9) And again, you show your ignorance in this matter, for example, in the United States you could only be imprisoned for being a communist or holding social views and there have been cases in judicial practice when the Communists were seated on an electric chair without significant evidence, such as Julius and Ethel Rosenberg Any political system will fight with opponents and Europe and America this is just one example.
      1. Saburov
        Saburov 16 November 2015 11: 14 New
        +2
        Quote: John22
        Economics in ....
        State construction in the ...
        Democracy in ....
        Country in .....
        All in ...

        And where are its advantages then ??
        Who can name at least one achievement? (except Crimea). And some here are happy as Obamych shook his hand. Yes, when the Papuans from Zimbabwe come to Russia, they also kiss and hug. They give them great tricks. :)
        ps The minimum wage for civil servants in Gabon is 160 dollars. Medium - 360. And why didn’t Gabon send troops to Syria?


        Well, if the economy was in ... well, then you would also be there according to the law of Lomonosov ...
        In order not to be unfounded, just look at how much is being opened and being built in the country http://sdelanounas.ru/ and evaluate the scale of construction and the interesting fact is that Russia is already starting to build factories with a sixth technological structure ... so someone you deliberately misleading.
        Immediately only the flies get married ... it’s the case for the elections, and there we’ll see ... he is not one of those people who shouts right and left about his activities, who knows his merits in business and works.
        So what if they have a salary of 160 dollars, I have a length of service pension more than these figures combined ... it’s necessary to work, not to count other people's money ... what kind of manners.
    5. lis-ik
      lis-ik 16 November 2015 12: 01 New
      +6
      Democracy in ....
      And thank God, well, its in jo ... this democracy!
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  16. chikenous59
    chikenous59 16 November 2015 09: 17 New
    -1
    Here's what American money does in our country:

    In the north of Prikamye, a 29-year-old local resident was detained, who held a drug stash with the money of her ex-husband, a US citizen. According to the Federal Penitentiary Service, the other day, investigators eliminated two drug defenses in Berezniki.
    The owners of one of the one were the half-sisters, who had previously been involved in drug use. One of the sisters bought desomorphine with the money of her ex-husband, a US citizen who, after the divorce, provided financial assistance to the woman. The second drug counter was organized by two friends. In the apartment of one of them, the "drug dealers" cooked a "crocodile", which was then sold to the brothel guests. At the time the drug police appeared, there were 5 “guests of the establishment” in the apartment.
    Criminal proceedings have been instituted on both facts of drug trafficking. Suspects face imprisonment of up to six years.
    http://rifey.ru/news/perm/show_id_34069/16-11-2015-zhitelnica-prikamya-soderzhal
    a-narkopriton-na-dengi-amerikanca
    1. dsi
      dsi 16 November 2015 10: 21 New
      0
      with the money of her ex-husband, a US citizen.

      And if the citizen of Estonia?
      - That's what Estonian money is doing in our country ...
  17. chikenous59
    chikenous59 16 November 2015 09: 22 New
    +4
    Quote: John22
    The undoubted advantages of the Putin-Serdyukov system:
    1.the ability to present oneself, the so-called. "coolness". But the background of bald Europeans "macho-men" looks cool. Especially in foreign policy.
    2.Corruption !!! That's great!!!
    3. Fake elections (as in the USSR)! Super!
    4. Absorption of ALL significant media for fooling (as in the USSR) !!!
    5. Creation of specific princes (as in the USSR)? Super!
    6. Fake deputies (as in the USSR)!
    7. Arms race (as in the USSR)!
    8. Enemies around (as in the USSR)!
    9. Prisons for political opponents? (as in the USSR) Super !!!

    Economics in ....
    State construction in the ...
    Democracy in ....
    Country in .....
    All in ...



    And where are its advantages then ??
    Who can name at least one achievement? (except Crimea). And some here are happy as Obamych shook his hand. Yes, when the Papuans from Zimbabwe come to Russia, they also kiss and hug. They give them great tricks. :)

    You are shown less to watch TV)
    In no way are we ... Look around you, life has not changed so much after 2014.
    Of course, if you have lost your job or something else, you can be understood. Offended by the whole world, except yourself.
    People somehow get out, and you complain.
    Not 2 peas per spoon, when outside the country there is chaos, try to restore order inside yourself ...
    1. John22
      John22 16 November 2015 09: 33 New
      -11 qualifying.
      People somehow get out, and you complain.
      Tolik Perdyukov with his mistress certainly get out.
      Hand washes a hand. :)))
      1. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 16 November 2015 11: 24 New
        +3
        Quote: John22
        Perdyukov

        Proctologist, for sure. Well, cure your butthert, then we'll talk
      2. Azitral
        Azitral 16 November 2015 14: 08 New
        -1
        "Be SATISFIED, troll ..." (Peer Gynt)
      3. Gardamir
        Gardamir 16 November 2015 14: 47 New
        +2
        Tolik Serdyukov with his mistress certainly get out.
        Hand washes a hand. :)))

        Judging by the cons. Putin will be followed by Serdyukov, after all - the hero of Russia.
      4. s.melioxin
        s.melioxin 16 November 2015 18: 54 New
        0
        Economics in ....
        State construction in the ...
        Democracy in ....
        Country in .....
        All in ...
        Well, everything cannot be, everything is bad. In such cases, the strong fight and find a way out, the weak are hung up.
  18. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 16 November 2015 09: 23 New
    +3
    "The insight of the" gentlemen "of friends and partners is good. But how to understand Siluanov's statement that Russia is ready to knock off Ukraine's debt. Spit in our eyes, God's dew. "
  19. Stepan stepanovich
    Stepan stepanovich 16 November 2015 09: 32 New
    0
    Reuters reports:
    "The leaders of the two countries met in Antalya, where the G20 summit opened."
    "Vladimir Putin and Barack Obama discussed need truce in Syria. "
    In the article about negotiations on need truce not a word.
    Minsk for Syria: "Antalya 1"?
  20. Aunt Sonya
    Aunt Sonya 16 November 2015 09: 35 New
    +6
    Jacob Kedmi (ex-head of the Israeli service "NATIV") about the terrorist attacks in Paris
    Yasha - cuts the truth the uterus - BEAUTY !!!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogNr078W2HA
    1. Turkir
      Turkir 16 November 2015 10: 34 New
      0
      Jacob Kedmi - it's always interesting to listen to. Kedmi is a sober analyst and just a decent person. Interviews dot the i's.
      ----------
      Cedmie is one of the few people who have a cold mind combined with moral principles.
  21. taram taramych
    taram taramych 16 November 2015 09: 35 New
    +1
    “States want to redouble efforts to combat terrorist financing, establish border controls and improve flight safety. Calls for better coordination and information sharing are also expected to be recorded on paper. IS IS terrorists should be cut off from funding, including from oil trade on the black market, Bloomberg's interlocutors said.
    After an increase in the penultimate fight against terrorist financing, only the export of gerych from Afghanistan grew sevenfold. Well, Magrib also flared up.
  22. John22
    John22 16 November 2015 09: 36 New
    -14 qualifying.
    I don’t understand. Well, there are people who really love their homeland !!
    Well, why love corruption and arbitrariness?
    I do not understand????

    If you like corruption, prisons, a weak, non-diversified economy, love our people (234 people) to die, then what is the plus ??
    Explain ???
    We pay salary to a person. He leads. Can not manage. Well, please give way to normal. What is that bad?
    Why are you so clinging to the negative?
    Understand! Bolivar will not bear so much negativity !!! The Soviet Union could not stand and Putin-Serdyukovskaya Russia is already approaching this stage ....
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 16 November 2015 09: 51 New
      +7
      Suggest. Deny - offer. Come on, tell us where, how, how to build an infallible super society. Without your "beloved" Serdyukov and the USSR.

      Not really. You can criticize as from a machine gun, but building is really hard.

      Is there an example of a country in which there is no problem? On the moon, maybe on Mars? There society is perfect! - because he is not there!

      Well, or Luxembourg and Switzerland are very well settled. They are remembered when they put a denyuzhka in a bank, or they buy a watch. And Russia is a continent on the planet! We have problems above the roof. - and all this - the state is the most complicated mechanism! It needs to be managed. And alas, it is impossible to do without problems in this gigantic mechanism.

      Do you want the modest cosiness of Luxembourg? - planes fly.
    2. Victor-M
      Victor-M 16 November 2015 10: 50 New
      +1
      Quote: John22
      I don’t understand.

      Where are you? laughing
    3. mikh-korsakov
      mikh-korsakov 16 November 2015 10: 52 New
      +3
      And who would you like as president?
      1. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 16 November 2015 11: 27 New
        +4
        Quote: mikh-korsakov
        And who would you like as president?

        He wants a bulk or Chubais
    4. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 16 November 2015 11: 26 New
      +1
      Quote: John22
      ko-ko-ko, koo-ka-re-ku

      I'm sorry, what???
  23. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 16 November 2015 09: 42 New
    0
    The West is waking up late
    the west is sleeping and seeing.
  24. Riv
    Riv 16 November 2015 09: 44 New
    +1
    Negotiations again? I look: I liked stepping on a rake ... What can be negotiations with muslims? It is useless to start a negotiation process with terrorists; this will not lead to anything. They just need to be destroyed until no one is left. This approach, with continued success, was practiced by the British Empire two centuries ago. How many uprisings were there? All of them choked in blood until the British began to liberalize with the blacks. As soon as this happened, the empire collapsed.

    In Afghanistan, at one time, ours sent orders to villages: "to send so many people to work in the garrison." If the order was ignored, a mine flew to the center of the kishlak and the dekhans fled to work for the distillation. It should be so. Even the thought of bearded monkeys should not arise that some kind of resistance is possible.

    France today is stepping on the same rake: they are trying to talk softly with Muslims. But you can’t do this. That is, softness is certainly possible and mutual respect is also, but under the velvet there should be a steel fist and the Muslim should have confidence: if anything - he will receive this fist. Until the French understand this, they will receive terrorist acts.
  25. marinier
    marinier 16 November 2015 09: 45 New
    -1
    Good time of the day, Dear!
    In my opinion, there is a striking conspiracy of interests, the West and their host are comprehensible.
    Sei4as in Europe cool performance of Putin Ave. at a killer meeting O.O.N.
    on which he foresaw and announced, if the message is not taken for solving problems
    Teror, he will come to the threshold of our house!
    And of course, the last events in Paris.
  26. John22
    John22 16 November 2015 09: 50 New
    -16 qualifying.
    Here ecologist Vitishko wrote on the fence "Sanya the Thief" (this is about the palace in the Black Sea reserve of Putin's friend Serdyukov). And Putin-Serdyukov put an innocent man in prison!

    REALLY LEFT !!!!

    Khodorkovsky began to climb into politics -
    Putin-Serdyukov put him on 10 years !!!

    Bulk began to climb!
    Putin-Serdyukov planted his brother !!!

    Therefore, the West and slams Putin-Serdyukov. He has them on the hook. They understand that he is tied to his family and will not go anywhere. And they are glad that another Gorbachev has come, who will ruin Russia (and if he shows off, they will take out all the negativity from him from his sleeve)
    In the place of the States, I would have kept this regime in power. It is phenomenally beneficial. Gorbachev was given a medal, HIM is respected and Obamych himself shook HIM hand !!!
    1. Dazdranagon
      Dazdranagon 16 November 2015 10: 17 New
      +4
      Quote: John22
      Gorbachev was given a medal, HIM is respected and Obamych himself shook HIM hand !!!
      - Of course they respect - he also destroyed the USSR! I would also give a medal to some American for the collapse of the United States!
  27. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 16 November 2015 09: 56 New
    +3
    All words, words. After September 11, special services also almost kissed each other in the mouth, and ended in zilch. So now, words only cover true
    intentions, "you cannot harness a horse and a quivering doe in one cart."
  28. slizhov
    slizhov 16 November 2015 09: 57 New
    0
    It is time to begin to carry out joint actions in the field of reconnaissance, the introduction of agents in all gangster formations and to stop showing the neighbor’s mouth in crookedness when the curve is on the face ...
  29. chikenous59
    chikenous59 16 November 2015 09: 58 New
    +1
    Quote: John22
    People somehow get out, and you complain.
    Tolik Perdyukov with his mistress certainly get out.
    Hand washes a hand. :)))

    I'm talking about ordinary people. It is necessary to adapt to changing living conditions, not to stand still.
    Russia has such a difficult fate, they do not allow it to develop fully. Basically, from the outside, therefore, you must first defeat the enemy, and then their parasites to finish off inside the country.
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 16 November 2015 14: 02 New
      +1
      Nowhere is there an easy fate at the place of birth. You can’t imagine what kind of lousy work the very same Frenchmen undertake if they squeeze it. They interrupt until they pass the black strip, but do not whine, because they understand that the weather can be different. And about Khodorkovsky you just have a negative outlook on the world. They did not invent dirt on him, his sins would be enough for ten executions. Like the rest of the oligarchs of that spill. This was not taken him without any reason. It was they who, without any reason, were left free. Because it’s impossible, you will destroy the economy. As always, a compromise: to give one on the head, so that the others roll up their lips and obey. F.D. Roosevelt did exactly the same.
  30. John22
    John22 16 November 2015 10: 02 New
    -10 qualifying.
    Quote: chikenous59
    Quote: John22
    People somehow get out, and you complain.
    Tolik Perdyukov with his mistress certainly get out.
    Hand washes a hand. :)))

    I'm talking about ordinary people. It is necessary to adapt to changing living conditions, not to stand still.
    Russia has such a difficult fate, they do not allow it to develop fully. Basically, from the outside, therefore, you must first defeat the enemy, and then their parasites to finish off inside the country.

    I understood! You "suffered".
    They’re robbing anything, because they are robbing their own people, they can. And you - wow these nasty and bad villains. It’s their fault. :)))

    And you naively think that because of the "enemy west" our people have been living worse than Gabon for 15 years (the average salary there is 360 dollars).
    :)))
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 November 2015 15: 09 New
      +1
      Impatient on the Maidan impatiently galloped to themselves early "happiness" .... Offer such a scenario ???
  31. v1tz
    v1tz 16 November 2015 10: 09 New
    +1
    Is it possible to do without the word "outcast", got it already.
  32. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 16 November 2015 10: 11 New
    +1
    All these ... civilians, camerons, ollands, etc.:
    Quote: mirag2
    the situation will again turn in a favorable manner for itself, and not beneficial for the Russian Federation, forcing it to stop supporting Assad.


    Quote: mirag2
    maybe the worst option, in any way, the Syrians will be blamed for the Paris events.
  33. chikenous59
    chikenous59 16 November 2015 10: 11 New
    +3
    Quote: John22
    Quote: chikenous59
    Quote: John22
    People somehow get out, and you complain.
    Tolik Perdyukov with his mistress certainly get out.
    Hand washes a hand. :)))

    I'm talking about ordinary people. It is necessary to adapt to changing living conditions, not to stand still.
    Russia has such a difficult fate, they do not allow it to develop fully. Basically, from the outside, therefore, you must first defeat the enemy, and then their parasites to finish off inside the country.

    I understood! You "suffered".
    They’re robbing anything, because they are robbing their own people, they can. And you - wow these nasty and bad villains. It’s their fault. :)))

    And you naively think that because of the "enemy west" our people have been living worse than Gabon for 15 years (the average salary there is 360 dollars).
    :)))

    I could not stand it)) I know that our officials are stealing and will steal another 1000 years, no matter who comes to power, so I’m looking for ways to earn money so much that my family will have enough money given that the products are expensive, the drugs are expensive, the housing and communal services generally p.z.d.ts. etc.
    It is possible and necessary, of course, to go out to peaceful rallies, protests, but not at present. Now there is pressure from the outside, and if there is also a riot within, then nothing will remain of Russia at all
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 16 November 2015 10: 19 New
      +5
      All of you correctly say dear. hi

      But this "miracle" cannot be explained. sad

      He has a sharp popol, Putin, and the USSR with complications.

      1. Dry_T-50
        Dry_T-50 16 November 2015 11: 31 New
        +5
        Quote: DEZINTO
        He has a sharp popol, Putin, and the USSR with complications.

        So, what does he have all the comments about J. wassat
    2. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 November 2015 15: 15 New
      0
      Now there is a war — thank God without carpet bombing and tank wedges — and riot during the war is a betrayal! This has already happened - the February coup of 1917 during the fighting on the fronts of the 1st World War! People with history are not friends and this is a problem ....
  34. chikenous59
    chikenous59 16 November 2015 10: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: John22
    Quote: chikenous59
    Quote: John22
    People somehow get out, and you complain.
    Tolik Perdyukov with his mistress certainly get out.
    Hand washes a hand. :)))

    I'm talking about ordinary people. It is necessary to adapt to changing living conditions, not to stand still.
    Russia has such a difficult fate, they do not allow it to develop fully. Basically, from the outside, therefore, you must first defeat the enemy, and then their parasites to finish off inside the country.

    I understood! You "suffered".
    They’re robbing anything, because they are robbing their own people, they can. And you - wow these nasty and bad villains. It’s their fault. :)))

    And you naively think that because of the "enemy west" our people have been living worse than Gabon for 15 years (the average salary there is 360 dollars).
    :)))


    Our people also live because of that they don’t want to work. This does not apply to everyone. Take a look around, cool cars ride around, beautiful people built houses for themselves. What kind of shisha? They earned money, were not too lazy, tore their ass from the sofa and earned money. Someone stole, but someone earned. What is stopping the rest? I think laziness, lack of motivation and the inability to adapt to a changing environment. An example of this is the previous generation, they do not even want to understand phones and other electronics. They do not want, they are afraid. These people live poorly.
    And you probably want to work as a janitor and drive a Mercedes, live in a mansion. Opportunities for making money are full. The world has changed and the worker is no longer paid so high as a sales manager, lawyer, etc.
    Look for the opportunity where you get paid, change stereotypes
  35. John22
    John22 16 November 2015 10: 18 New
    -8
    Quote: chikenous59
    .., and if the riot starts inside, then nothing will remain of Russia at all

    Unfortunately, the riot will definitely begin. : (((
    If you press people for a long time (low salaries, prisons, zombie media, corruption, etc.), then the people will not survive for a long time.
    You yourself will be in the forefront when your child is sent to the next "Afghanistan", or what happens by "Airbus", or asked to pay for "free education" or simply go to jail, because your views differ from ....
    Bolivar is already on its last legs ... :(
    1. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 16 November 2015 11: 32 New
      +4
      Quote: John22
      Bolivar is already on its last legs ... :(

      Dear, you are off course! The censor here is censor.net.ua. And Rabinovich on this site is not there either!
    2. Gloomy
      Gloomy 16 November 2015 13: 38 New
      +2
      Dear, if everything is bad here, go to Gabon. Here, even without you, everyone understands that there are problems in the country, the economy, corruption, and so on. Questions need to be addressed, and whining and demanding this is easiest. The state owes you everything, but what have you done for the state? Tired of whining! Tired of squishy! Want to change something for the better and do it. Or at least try it.
    3. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 November 2015 15: 26 New
      0
      You propose to capitulate to the "democratic" community ???? To be clear, surrender is an admission of defeat, surrender of sovereignty, an occupation administration, an occupying military contingent, indemnities, reparations with financial and human resources, disarmament of the defeated side, de-industrialization and other-other "benefits" with the ensuing ...
  36. chikenous59
    chikenous59 16 November 2015 10: 22 New
    +3
    Quote: John22
    Quote: chikenous59
    .., and if the riot starts inside, then nothing will remain of Russia at all

    Unfortunately, the riot will definitely begin. : (((
    If you press people for a long time (low salaries, prisons, zombie media, corruption, etc.), then the people will not survive for a long time.
    You yourself will be in the forefront when your child is sent to another "Afghanistan" or asked to pay for a "free education" or just go to jail, because your views differ from ....

    Yes, I’ll go to a riot if I see that no one is stopping us from developing outside, and inside the state is not developing the country, it creates corruption and deprives me of income.
    At the moment, everything suits me, nothing more has been given.
    Where to get the money, if the Central Bank is private, the ruble is cheap, import resp. dear madly.
    Here you must first deal with this, then take up the loafers, parasites and corrupt officials thoroughly.
    1. Uncle Joe
      Uncle Joe 16 November 2015 15: 18 New
      0
      Quote: chikenous59
      I could not stand it)) I know that our officials are stealing and will steal another 1000 years, no matter who comes to power, therefore I am looking for ways to earn money so much that my family has enough to live on
      So this is it.

      And you justify "this is it" with empty words about pressure from outside and abstract Russia (either a country or a state), from which supposedly nothing will remain if the "cannibals" are identified at the appropriate address.

      Quote: chikenous59
      Our people also live because of that they don’t want to work.
      Exactly - not all Abramovich’s yachts have yet, but all because the people don’t want to work (though this does not apply to everyone, and the best confirmation of this is that some Abramovich’s yachts do) ...

      Take a look around, cool cars ride around, beautiful people built houses for themselves. What kind of shisha? Earned, not too lazy, torn ass from the sofa and earned
      laughing

      I was mistaken - you didn’t tolerate, you persuader persuaded to remain terpils.

      What is stopping the rest? I think laziness, lack of motivation and inability to adapt to a changing environment.
      And a long time ago you began to follow the principle - "if you cannot avoid rape ..." smile

      An example of this is the previous generation, they do not even want to understand phones and other electronics. They don’t want, they are afraid
      And how do you, behind the pressure from outside and the collapse of Russia, differ from them?

      The world has changed and the worker is no longer paid so high as a sales manager, lawyer, etc.
      The "world" has been changed, and not in the interests of the majority, and you propose to rasslbitsya and enjoy.
      So who are you after that?

      Quote: chikenous59
      At the moment, everything suits me
      There were so many words of Russia and external pressure, but in fact the whole thing is that everything suits you.
      How not beautiful of you lol

      Where to get money if the Central Bank is private
      Take in the state central bank laughing

      Here you must first deal with this
      First you need to fight with your own illiteracy, so as not to disgrace, and not write nonsense about private Central Banks.
  37. veksha50
    veksha50 16 November 2015 10: 27 New
    +4
    "Russia was included in the list of the main threats because of its policy towards Ukraine, expanding military presence in Kaliningrad and operations in Syria "...

    And what is this nonsense ??? A thick hint that they do not recognize the Kaliningrad region, like the Crimea, as part of the Russian Federation ???

    No need to fall into euphoria and say that the attitude of the West towards us is changing for the better ... If it is changing in any way, it is only because Russia has shown its teeth and its fist ...

    We do not have friends or allies ... Russia to rely on its interests should only rely on itself, and, most importantly - to believe in themselves ...
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 November 2015 15: 32 New
      +1
      If the West changes its attitude towards something, then it always did and does as a tactical maneuver, the strategic goal is always unchanged, it has been unchanged for many centuries ...
  38. John22
    John22 16 November 2015 10: 28 New
    -8
    Quote: chikenous59
    At the moment, everything suits me, nothing more has been given.

    I'm sorry! Unfortunately, so far most people think so. :(

    Therefore, a lot of adequate people and most businessmen and politicians take their families out (create alternate airfields) to the West.
    Living with sufferers is terrible, poor and dangerous. : (((
    Look, many associates of Putin-Serdyukov have long gone west or sent there their children. :(
    Well, it’s clear that this is the fate of Russia to live in poverty and arbitrariness. :(
    I will not write about this topic anymore. Useless.
    However, why is there more salaries in Gabon than in Russia? :)))
    1. B.T.V.
      B.T.V. 16 November 2015 10: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: John22
      However, why is there more salaries in Gabon than in Russia? :)))


      If you are so interested in this question, is it possible for you to go to Gabon and find out everything on the spot, maybe you will stay for permanent residence? !!!
      1. noWAR
        noWAR 16 November 2015 11: 30 New
        +2
        Looks like he loves birches laughing
        And this is for you, Tatyana love not a squeamish ..
  39. Captain45
    Captain45 16 November 2015 10: 41 New
    +4
    Twenty-second John: I carefully read all your comments, well, confess already Ivan Ivanov, your real name is Venediktov? Kasparov? Nadezhdin? Ahhh understand, you Liberastov !!!
    1. John22
      John22 16 November 2015 10: 43 New
      -6
      The difference between us is that I am against arbitrariness and corruption, and you are for!

      And I, Liberastov, ast ... I, Bandera, or Gabon - it does not play a role!

      I am against corruption - you are in favor!

      Feel the difference?

      ps He was in a hospital recently. Horror. Everything is built on bribes. Doctors themselves extorted insolent .....
      Thanks to Putin-Serdyukov for the corruption and high-quality medicine ...... :)
      1. Dezinto
        Dezinto 16 November 2015 10: 47 New
        0
        Yes!

        We are all wooden to the waist and love corruption very much!

        I feel the difference right!
      2. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 16 November 2015 10: 49 New
        +2
        Quote: John22
        I am against corruption


        My grandmother used to say: "although the tongue is boneless, you can also rub a corn on it." "Talk a lot, don't roll bags", "feel the difference" ?!
      3. Victor-M
        Victor-M 16 November 2015 10: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: John22
        I am against corruption - you are in favor!

        What is corruption? When is it given, or when is it taken? wink laughing
      4. taram taramych
        taram taramych 16 November 2015 13: 17 New
        -1
        Quote: John22
        He was in a hospital recently. Horror.

        Didn't get you. Probably in "infection", with diarrhea?
      5. Dazdranagon
        Dazdranagon 16 November 2015 13: 48 New
        0
        Quote: John22
        I am against arbitrariness and corruption, and you are for!
        - Yes, we are also against it. But also against what Ukraine has now become.
        Quote: John22
        Putin-Serdyukov
        - You are like Klitschko with "modern". Is your vocabulary poor?
    2. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 November 2015 15: 34 New
      +1
      Ivan Ivanov is the same as Abram Abramov ....
  40. John22
    John22 16 November 2015 10: 49 New
    -4
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Yes!

    We are all wooden to the waist and love corruption very much!

    I feel the difference right!


    So why are silent and do not condemn corruption and its regulator?
    Why praise the person who built this system in 15 years? Who doesn't plant Thieves?
    Why praise him?
    It’s the same that money was stolen from your child! This is your child will not receive a quality education, quality medical care (God forbid), you personally will not receive a normal pension ..
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 16 November 2015 11: 06 New
      +4
      It’s the same that money was stolen from your child!


      Money was stolen from my child Serdyukov must be assumed. But if it weren’t for him and Vasilyeva, then my child would now fly to Los Angeles on a private jet?

      I mean - once again, deny - offer. Who would "save" Russia now? From this terrible dictatorship of Putin over the past 15 years ????

      And then you are all - a mess here, a mess there, corruption - they have been doing a discount on it all over the world for a long time. Well, this is just a property of man!

      And once again I remind you - the state of Russia is a gigantic mechanism! For a second, the largest country in the world! If you want a quiet lake house in Switzerland - the planes are still flying.

      Do you want to eradicate corruption in flaps? - suggest a way. Want a different president? - propose a candidate?
      1. Karlovar
        Karlovar 16 November 2015 15: 39 New
        +1
        Whoever leads or led at least a team of 50-100 people knows what hard work it is ....
  41. tacet
    tacet 16 November 2015 11: 09 New
    +3
    Yo! The electrical tape is over.
    1. Dezinto
      Dezinto 16 November 2015 11: 21 New
      +4
      Yo! The electrical tape is over.
  42. chikenous59
    chikenous59 16 November 2015 11: 12 New
    0
    Quote: John22
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Yes!

    We are all wooden to the waist and love corruption very much!

    I feel the difference right!


    So why are silent and do not condemn corruption and its regulator?
    Why praise the person who built this system in 15 years? Who doesn't plant Thieves?
    Why praise him?
    It’s the same that money was stolen from your child! This is your child will not receive a quality education, quality medical care (God forbid), you personally will not receive a normal pension ..

    Do not go ahead dad in the heat)
    The time will come and stand with you shoulder to shoulder, when it becomes clear that the authorities are to blame and do not give us the opportunity to earn and develop.
    And while power gives this opportunity, many take advantage of it and live well. Therefore, it is difficult to pull a minority into the streets. For many, Ukraine has become an example, in this example it is clear that any power that comes to the helm steals in any state. To do this, they come to politics, and not raise a country from their knees. This is task number 2 for the authorities.
    Therefore, when the enemy abroad is defeated, then the people will look at internal problems and will not let the state go! I am sure of that.

    It’s a pity, of course, for people who cannot provide for themselves, but what can we do? Where to get the money? It’s just that the state will not print them, hunting of course, but they don’t. Therefore, they pay more to those who bring more benefit to the state — pure pragmatism. That's when we nationalize the Central Bank, then it is necessary to demand from the state loudly.
    Therefore, before calling the people for a "revolution," call on Putin to nationalize the Central Bank.
    I think he will give you the answer, not the camera, what are his plans in this regard.
    No one will announce this to the whole country, as this will mean the disclosure of all geopolitical maps.
    The Central Bank will become national only when there is no dollar as the main currency. And when will he not be?
    Putin will never reveal his plans to the whole world
    1. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 November 2015 15: 47 New
      0
      If we immediately nationalize the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, the United States will embark on an open confrontation (complete trade embargo, freezing and confiscation of Russian foreign assets, disconnection from SWIFT, provoking military conflicts around the entire border of the Russian Federation, I think, even direct clashes) .... Today, Russia not yet ready for this step .... not yet ready ... We need to prepare, quietly, without too much noise ...
  43. chikenous59
    chikenous59 16 November 2015 11: 16 New
    +2
    Quote: Victor-M
    Quote: John22
    I am against corruption - you are in favor!

    What is corruption? When is it given, or when is it taken? wink laughing

    When give))))
  44. Termit1309
    Termit1309 16 November 2015 11: 30 New
    +2
    Quote: John22
    Well, it’s clear that this is the fate of Russia to live in poverty and arbitrariness. :(

    When in Russia there will be fewer people like you, it will be a little easier hi
    1. John22
      John22 16 November 2015 11: 48 New
      -4
      If those who love their homeland leave, then the thieves will have to steal from each other (well, the truth will still be "terpily", you can milk them)?
      :)
      1. B.T.V.
        B.T.V. 16 November 2015 12: 26 New
        +3
        Quote: John22
        If those who love their homeland leave,


        You yourself contradict yourself, however.
    2. Karlovar
      Karlovar 16 November 2015 15: 48 New
      0
      During the Second World War, alarmists were shot on the spot .... That is, they were equated with saboteurs ....
  45. Wolka
    Wolka 16 November 2015 11: 38 New
    0
    the Yankees, together with their sycophants and other pugs, once again screwed up hard on all fronts, because they still have to do as "a refrigerator in the house, sheep in the stall ..."
  46. kirpich
    kirpich 16 November 2015 12: 06 New
    0
    Quote: Cthulhu
    Now they will come up with a new training manual that Russia is to blame for everything and Putin personally instructed the terrorists, and everything will return to square one.


    Do not dare. Otherwise, all of Europe will turn its back on the US negative . Russia warned about the entry of emigrants. Now Europe rakes in full.
    Russia, now, needs to tighten border controls to prevent terrorist attacks in the country.
  47. John22
    John22 16 November 2015 12: 28 New
    -4
    The family of the press secretary of Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev Natalya Timakova bought a house in Jurmala for 1,3 million euros,
    More details: http://www.rosbalt.ru/exussr/2015/11/16/1461405.html


    :)))
    I love when they saw !!! We must not allow our despicable Americans to get our money. :)))
    Vova, ask them there on the G20 heat !!! Tell us about the special path of the Russian Federation and the protection of the oppressed! drinks
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 16 November 2015 14: 28 New
      +1
      Do not feed the troll under the nickname john22! He successfully brought you, and now rejoices. There are two of the most classic reasons for the Maidan: corruption and dishonest elections, the results of which the troll does not like. And when you find nothing special, you move on to the next point: they are all at the same time, one gang-watering can. You cannot prove anything there or there, but there is a chance to get a crowd.
      1. John22
        John22 16 November 2015 15: 32 New
        -1
        Why are you for corruption?
        Why do not speak out against?

        Otherwise, it turns out that your place in prison, and not on this forum ....
  48. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 16 November 2015 12: 31 New
    0
    Of course, the Anglo-Saxon buggers should not be trusted and their behavior can be seen in the light of a volley of two Bulava missiles in the Barents Sea, they flew beautifully, while the declared firing range of 8 thousand kilometers does not correspond to reality, if I remember correctly in one of the messages when the control firing, the bird flew to 9600 km., and the events in Syria with the release of the airport and practically Aleppo’s environment psychologically put a lot of pressure on the West and they are looking for an excuse to play friends, BUT YOU CAN’T BELIEVE, they are corrupt with ....
  49. S-cream
    S-cream 16 November 2015 14: 05 New
    0
    And now, at the G20 summit ....... CATS !!!!
  50. realist
    realist 16 November 2015 14: 21 New
    +1
    at the summit in Turkey finally met the most influential person in the world according to the Forbes magazine and the best model for the cover of the magazine's pederast .......................
    I really want life to get better and everything else is secondary .............