The Foreign Ministry of the Russian Federation spoke about the differences in the international community over the creation of a single list of terrorist organizations

Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Mikhail Bogdanov told reporters that Russia had made a proposal to recognize terrorist groups in the Middle East as 7 groups. Bogdanov noted that the list compiled by Russia included groups whose representatives express the words of adherence to such terrorist movements as the IG and Dzhebhat al-Nusra (one of the al-Qaida cells).

Essential contradictions were also determined about which groups should be considered terrorist at the international level and which should not be considered.
RIA News quotes a Russian diplomat:

There are groups recognized as terrorist internationally, and there are groups recognized at the national level. Some say that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, Hamas, and we say that we maintain contact and relations with them because we do not consider them terrorist. We have never committed any terrorist acts on Russian territory. If you have committed, you can recognize them, but this is not international agreement.

For example, official Ankara proposes to include in the list of terrorist groups Kurds fighting the so-called "Islamic state". At the same time, the Turks themselves announced a "successful operation against the militants of the IG."

Mikhail Bogdanov:

They consider the (Kurdish) Democratic Unity Party a terrorist one. We believe that they are a legitimate organization. There are differences not only between us and the Turks, but also between the Turks and the Americans. Even inside NATO, they have differences.

Judging by these statements, a single list of terrorist organizations that are going to be formed on the UN platform, if it is created, it is unlikely that this will happen in the near future.

Comments

[VseDoFeNi]

The head of the list should be the arrogant Saxons with their henchmen, but they are just against it.

[Same lech]

The head of the list should be the arrogant Saxons with their henchmen, but they are just against it.

The UN does not have a clear standard for determining a terrorist, and the Anglo-Saxons use this.

They like card cheaters are constantly engaged in substitution of cards ... ugh, you concepts of a terrorist in thieves' jargon ... crook.

[Andrea]

Not ... a crook, it’s humanly, but so kataly.
In truth, don’t feed with bread.

[Vita vko]

What's the difference in which country the terrorist attack was committed? Terrorist and terrorist in Africa. If there is evidence of the organization's involvement in massacres, then this organization must be terrorist. And probably this is not the case of diplomats, but of specialists in international law, for example, the Hague Tribunal. This list should also include fascist formations such as the Ukrainian "right sector".

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

The UN does not have a clear standard for determining a terrorist, and the Anglo-Saxons use this.

So they have NO CONSCIENCE in this UN.

[VseDoFeNi]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

The UN does not have a clear standard for determining a terrorist, and the Anglo-Saxons use this.

So they have NO CONSCIENCE in this UN.

[79807420129]

Yes, even let them think for a year where they will explode next time? Maybe they’ll come up with it, and my list is such a 1-USA, the rest after the destruction of the main terrorist will bite each other.

[cniza]

Quote: VseDoFeNi

The head of the list should be the arrogant Saxons with their henchmen, but they are just against it.

The more turbid the water, the more fish they catch, there will never be a single list, it is disadvantageous primarily to the United States and its henchmen and mongrel.

[snifer]

how do I see a conversation on this topic
is my terrorist, he is not a terrorist, and this is your terrorist, here he is a terrorist
-but let it be your terrorist terrorist, and my terrorist is by no means a terrorist

[izya top]

the main thing is that there should be no disagreement over the recognition by terrorists of Qatar, the UAE, Yankosia and Britain

[Alexander 3]

They just need to create a rule by which one can determine who the terrorist is. The people fighting for their independence and their culture cannot be considered terrorists.

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: Alexander 3

They just need to create a rule by which you can determine who the terrorist is.

Who do they need? If amers, then they wrote Basayev to terrorists, only after the attack on the school. But even after that, in the news, his sixes were called rebels.

[3 Gorynych]

A very weak theory - if you look in the world, almost everywhere someone is fighting with someone, a type for their rights! And it’s not dependent on anyone? It’s very difficult ... Therefore, they don’t create a rule ...

[izya top]

Quote: Alexander 3

People fighting for their independence

the West proclaimed that the Chechens were fighting for independence, and the houses and buses exploded far from Chechnya. So it turns out (according to Western patterns) that in London-Paris there are no terrorist acts, but a struggle

[Darkoff]

They just need to create a rule by which one can determine who the terrorist is. The people fighting for their independence and their culture cannot be considered terrorists.

The main thing now is to start this list by adding to it all those groupings to which none of the "compilers" objects.
And then (for the remaining candidates) - we must work hard: to prove, argue, convince. Only against the truth there is no weapon.

[atalef]

Quote: Alexander 3

They just need to create a rule by which one can determine who the terrorist is. The people fighting for their independence and their culture cannot be considered terrorists.

Chechens from the point of view of the Saudis are fighting for their independence and culture - persuade them in this?

"Some say that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization. We maintain contacts and relations with them, because we do not consider them a terrorist organization. They have never committed any terrorist attacks on Russian territory. Hezbollah has been elected by the people to the Lebanese parliament, there are members governments and ministers from Hezbollah in Lebanon. This is a legitimate social and political force, "he continued.

"The same is about Hamas. The Americans believe that Hamas is a terrorist organization. But we do not think so, because it is an integral part of the Palestinian society," Bogdanov said. He recalled in this regard that representatives of Hamas were also elected to the legislative assembly and the government of National Unity.

I liked this hypocrisy.
Give a list of Russian citizens who died at the hands of Hamas?
Killed on buses (which blew up). in hotels, in halls of celebrations
at bus stops
Hezbollah?
I will not mention the 4 Soviet diplomats abducted by Hezbollah (in Beirut)
Hezbollah. what is fighting for?
Who is fighting 7
can someone ask how many Hezbollah Christians grind in Lebanon?
Two-faced initiative - never agree

Bogdanov said: “We believe that this (Party of Democratic Unity of Kurdistan) is a social and political legal organization. Moreover, it does not act independently, but is a member of the National Coordinating Committee.

of course. let him prove it to the same Turks and relatives of those killed
They don’t agree, because nobody will be ready to give up their interests.

[izya top]

and perish and perish at the hands of the Israeli non-combatants of Palestine will be considered? What better than Hamas?

[andj61]

Quote: atalef

I liked this hypocrisy.

Terrorists are always terrorists: there can be no good terrorists!
Although the story about the abduction of Soviet diplomats in Beirut is very muddy! Hesbollah's participation is the first layer, and there is a second and a third. And the Israeli intelligence services - through people associated with Haddad - also did not stand aside, as did the US intelligence agencies. Checked the USSR is not strength - checked ...

[vladkavkaz]

Ahahahahaaa !!!
Well, well .. Precisely they say, the Saudis and Israel, together they terrorize and train terrorists, using them there and in the way that suits them.

"From the point of view of the Saudis, the Chechens are fighting for their independence and culture - convince them of this?" - WHOM to convince?
Kadyrov, and 98% of the population of Chechnya, said-as part of Russia and not otherwise, so who is fighting for what-Khattab, a Jordanian terrorist, uprooting the Saudis-who died as a result of a brilliant operation?
Or a bunch of smaller urodovs, from the same Turks and Saudis.
Kurds do not like, those on those, but why so? When did the Kurds manage to annoy Israel?
The largest divided people in the world, why shouldn't they advocate for the creation of their country? Why would Israel be against it?
Did the dream of Greater Israel prevail before Euphrates or something? And there’s oil and a shaft, among the Kurds ... dreamers .. Whoever you heard.

Russia said its words, listen and write it down, for the slow-witted I will voice it again - "" Some say that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization. We maintain contacts and relations with them, because we do not consider them a terrorist organization. They have never committed any terrorist attacks on Russian territory. Hezbollah is elected by the people to the Lebanese parliament, there are government members and ministers from Hezbollah in Lebanon. This is a legitimate social and political force, "he continued.

"The same is about Hamas. The Americans believe that Hamas is a terrorist organization. But we do not think so, because it is an integral part of the Palestinian society," Bogdanov said. He recalled in this regard that representatives of Hamas were also elected to the legislative assembly and the government of National Unity. "
Have you learned?
Then, master this, Russia says so - "" We believe that this (Party of Democratic Unity of Kurdistan) is a social and political legal organization. And she, moreover, does not act independently, but is a member of the National Coordinating Committee. "

And with this, you have to come to terms.

But to shout here, they say that everything is wrong and everything is not that way, it’s not worth it, the negotiations were not with Israel, the country is not great to invite it to solve world problems.

[Stinger]

Principle: who does not ride the terrorist (aggressor, outcast, etc.) is universal. According to all-American values. Well, and the EU, of course. And whoever completely disagrees - to NATO under his breath.

[Vladimyrych]

The statement of the mattress figure is known - yes this guy is a son of a bitch but he is our son of a bitch. So practice double standards. And everywhere ...

[Taygerus]

swan, cancer and pike are like Krylov’s fable, but people meanwhile, peaceful people die and they don’t care who shoots them frostbitten or moderate terrorists, people just want to live in peace

[iliitchitch]

Quote: iza top

the main thing is that there should be no disagreement over the recognition by terrorists of Qatar, the UAE, Yankosia and Britain

The habits of this whole audience are the same, so they are all IG (exceptional g ... but). We must first formulate what terrorism is in general ... In general, while diplomats scratch themselves, one can pretty much halve the shaitans without much noise, and then apologize that the "nedoshaitans" were sent to hell.

[pvv113]

a single list of terrorist organizations that are going to be formed at the UN site, if it is created, it is unlikely to happen in the near future

The ukrohunt, who carries out the terror of the population of her country, must also be included in this list.

[Andryukha G]

The main terrorist in the world and an accomplice of all terrorists is known, but unfortunately, according to our lists, he is referred to as a "partner".

[sledge]

The USE government is the main terrorist.

[V.ic]

Quote: Sanya

The USE government is the main terrorist.

Who doubts this ... In short, "a godfather in the zone", but the Russian Federation seems to be like a "bezpredelshchik" for them, tk. "not according to concepts" "wets jackals" in Syria.

[guzik007]

Yeah, following their perverse logic, we must recognize along with Hamas terrorists and poppies in France and Belarusian partisans.
A terrorist man with weapons in his hands fighting a legitimate government. And the point.

[nivander]

the list of terrorist organizations should be led by the CIA of the NSA Gosdep

[Mountain shooter]

How long will the barmalei decide and who will not? It’s good that the videoconferencing works according to target designation, and not according to these lists. Let's see what's next. While the transitional government in six months, this is enough time for all the barmalei who survive to end up outside Syria.
A coalition with the devil is impossible.

[31rus]

This is to be expected, it is difficult of course to find a common approach, especially when they are trying to get away from the mainstream, there is ISIS, Al-Qaeda, recognize them and fight with it, all non-Syrian, Iraqi, are subject to destruction

[dchegrinec]

The outcome of such consultations was known in advance. And so it is known who covered and covers whom. This is more like an attempt to communicate once again so as not to stop the dialogue at all.

[Darkoff]

The outcome of such consultations was known in advance. And so it is known who covered and covers whom. This is more like an attempt to communicate once again so as not to stop the dialogue at all.

Such consultations are an additional platform and an opportunity for the Russian Federation to argue its position and promote its policy.
Although the victory in the war is ghostly, there can be no doubt that at least several battles will be won.

[rotmistr60]

Yes, such a list will never be agreed. And if it does, then by 1/3. The organizations that will be included in the list will create their own cells under a different name and will calmly "work" and even receive assistance from the United States and Europe.

[ARES623]

The Turks are such guys, they and their NATO allies are ready to write down as terrorists if there is a benefit (although they will not be far from the truth). Always on my mind. Yes, and the EU, even those allies, every time they strive to ... deceive each other. Spiders in the jar.

[sl22277]

Any organization fighting illegally, especially with weapons in its hands, with a legitimate government and people (It doesn’t matter in which country this happens). It is a terrorist. Whatever ideas and thoughts they pursued.

[KOH]

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[Wolka]

the number one on the list of terrorist organizations is the US CIA, or are there more opinions ...

[slizhov]

Rams repositioned, however ...
Already France stopped pretending to fight them.

[Aunt Sonya]

Jacob Kedmi (ex-head of the Israeli service "NATIV") about the terrorist attacks in Paris
Yasha-cuts the truth of the uterus - BEAUTY !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogNr078W2HA

[Hello]

There are groups recognized as terrorist internationally, and there are groups recognized at the national level. Some say that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, Hamas, and we say that we maintain contact and relations with them because we do not consider them terrorist. We have never committed any terrorist acts on Russian territory. If you have committed, you can recognize them, but this is not international agreement.

Well, I suggest that Boko Haram not be included in the list of terrorists, they did nothing on the territory of Russia.

[vladkavkaz]

Hello IL
And why is Boko Haram?
These gangsters in Africa, act precisely in the interests of the United States, in order to prevent China from accessing resources.
Do you really not know this?
In Nigeria, the Chinese already live more than the British during the reign of the English crown.
Each regular mega-project announced by the Chinese government causes a new influx of Chinese into Africa.
More than 1 million Chinese people employed in state and private companies conduct their business in the territory
Africa.
According to business and business experts, in particular Shell CEO Jeroen van der Wier, the current decade "will be a time of scramble for raw material zones and global environmental destruction."

[Hello]

Quote: vladkavkaz

Hello IL
And why is Boko Haram?
These gangsters in Africa, act precisely in the interests of the United States, in order to prevent China from accessing resources.
Do you really not know this?
In Nigeria, the Chinese already live more than the British during the reign of the English crown.
Each regular mega-project announced by the Chinese government causes a new influx of Chinese into Africa.
More than 1 million Chinese people employed in state and private companies conduct their business in the territory
Africa.
According to business and business experts, in particular Shell CEO Jeroen van der Wier, the current decade "will be a time of scramble for raw material zones and global environmental destruction."

And? Written in black and white

In our country, they never committed any terrorist acts on Russian territory.

Be consistent, exclude Boko Haram from the list. Indeed, according to the Russian diplomat, terrorists are only those who organize actions on the territory of Russia.

[v.yegorov]

a unified list of terrorist organizations that they intend to form at the UN site, if it is created, is unlikely to happen in the near future.

"One loves bitter horseradish, and the other is blamange" - as Kozma Prutkov said.

[atalef]

Quote: v.yegorov

a unified list of terrorist organizations that they intend to form at the UN site, if it is created, is unlikely to happen in the near future.

"One loves bitter horseradish, and the other is blamange" - as Kozma Prutkov said.

Auntie, everyone has their own taste: one loves watermelon, the other pork cartilage
Of the dowry

[roskot]

Well, okay. Agree. And we will water them in the toilet. Allah will determine which of them is who.

[padded jacket]

Hezbollah is a popular patriotic movement designed to protect Lebanon from an invasion by extremely aggressive Israel whose policy is aimed at seizing foreign territories.
Hezbollah is not recognized as a terrorist organization by 160 countries out of 200 existing in the world.
And the fact that Israel wants to recognize them as terrorists is just another of their tricks when they want to remove their enemies (from whom they got ass in 2006) with the wrong hands. That’s exactly what they did in Syria sponsoring and helping terrorists against the country's legitimate government.
And in these cases, the position of our country is very true:
Russia does not rank Hezbollah and Hamas as terrorist organizations
Russia does not consider Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Kurdish Party of Democratic Unity to be terrorist organizations.
“Some say that Hezbollah is a terrorist organization. We maintain contacts and relations with them because we do not consider them a terrorist organization. They never committed any terrorist attacks on Russian territory,” continued Bogdanov. “Hezbollah was elected by the people as Lebanese parliament, there are members of the government and ministers from Hezbollah in Lebanon. This is a legitimate socio-political force. "
http://catoday.org/centrasia/23036-rf-ne-prichislyaet-hezbollu-i-hamas-k-terrori
sticheskim-organizaciyam.html

In no case can you go on about the regimes of the United States or Israel and make their opponents on this list.
By the way, who is not aware of the "cradle of peace and civilization" called Israel included in the list of terrorist organizations IS and Al-Nusra only on October 26 this year, and before that they were "pure as lambs"

[Catafract]

as always, they divide "good terrorists" and bad ones, this is Hezbollah, which carries out terrorist attacks in Europe throughout the Middle East, blowing up buses with children, but they are good, they do not carry out terrorist attacks in the Russian Federation (but let's see how long this idyll will last and how Hezbollah will blow up everything right in Muscovy).
This policy of Soltseliky just shows how rotten everything in the Russian Federation is.

[Catafract]

and this organization is not terrorists?

date action affected
On July 19, 1982, in Beirut, members of Hezbollah kidnapped David Dodge, president of the American University in Beirut. A year later, Dodge was released with the help of Syrian intelligence.
On April 18, 1983, Hezbollah blew up a van filled with explosives outside the US embassy in Lebanon. 63 people, including 13 Americans, were killed and 120 wounded.
On October 23, 1983, a truckload of explosives exploded near a US and French Marine barracks. 241 American troops and 58 French were killed.
November 4, 1983 shelled the headquarters of the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) in Tyre. 21 Shabak soldiers and employees were killed and 10 more were wounded.
On January 18, 1984, Malcolm Kerr, president of the American University in Beirut, was assassinated. Hezbollah officials said the killing was part of a drive to expel the Americans from Lebanon.
On March 7, 1984, Hezbollah kidnapped CNN Beirut bureau chief Jeremy Levin. He later managed to escape.
On March 8, 1984, US citizen Benjamin Weir was kidnapped.[1] 16 months later, with the help of Syria and Iran, he was released.
On March 16, 1984, Hezbollah kidnapped William Buckley, a diplomat from the US Embassy in Beirut. He was going to be exchanged for prisoners, but the exchange did not take place. Buckley was never found.
On August 12, 1984, Hezbollah bombed a US air base in Spain. 18 servicemen were killed, 83 people were wounded.
On September 20, 1984, a suicide bombing outside the American embassy in Beirut killed 23 people and wounded 21, including the American and British ambassadors.
On December 4, 1984, Hezbollah terrorists hijacked a Kuwait Airlines flight from Dubai, United Arab Emirates to Karachi, Pakistan. The terrorists demanded the release of several prisoners from Kuwaiti prisons. The terrorists landed the plane in Tehran, where the security services stormed the plane. 2 people died.
On June 14, 1985, members of Hezbollah hijacked a plane flying from Rome to Athens and forced the pilots to fly to Beirut. Two terrorists demanded the release of several hundred prisoners from Israeli and southern Lebanese prisons. The plane flew twice to Algiers. After that, upon landing in Beirut, the hostages were released, the criminals were convicted. 8 crew members and 145 passengers were held captive for 17 days. One passenger was killed.
On September 30, 1985, members of Hezbollah seized and stopped two cars near the Soviet embassy in Beirut. In one were consular officer Arkady Katkov and embassy doctor Nikolai Svirsky, in the other were KGB residency officers Oleg Spirin and Valery Myrikov. Arkady Katkov was killed. He supervised the murder of Imad Mughnia, nicknamed "Hyena" (it is known that Mughnia not only ordered the execution of Katkov, but also personally shot at him)[2]. The rest of the hostages were released. [source not specified 168 days]

[Catafract]

On September 9, 1986, Hezbollah kidnapped the director of the American University in Beirut. He was released 44 months later.
On October 21, 1986, Hezbollah kidnapped the American writer Edward Tracy in Beirut. In August 1991 he was released
On February 17, 1988, Hezbollah captured US Colonel William Higgins, head of the UN ceasefire monitoring mission. The terrorists demanded the withdrawal of Israeli troops from Lebanon, the release of all Palestinians and Lebanese from Israeli prisons. The American government refused to enter into negotiations. Killed by kidnappers, remains discovered in 1991.
March 17, 1992 A car bomb explodes near the Israeli embassy in Buenos Aires, Argentina. 29 people were killed, including 4 embassy employees.
On July 18, 1994, a suicide bomber blew himself up at the Jewish Cultural Center in Buenos Aires. 86 people died.
On December 6, 1995, there was a clash between IDF forces and Hezbollah fighters in the central region of the security zone (South Lebanon). 1 Israeli soldier was killed and XNUMX wounded.
On February 28, 1996, a member of Hezbollah attempted to enter Israeli airspace in an ultralight aircraft, but was shot down.
On March 4, 1996, an explosion occurred near the agricultural settlement of Manara. 4 IDF soldiers were killed and 9 wounded.
On March 10, 1996, an explosion occurred in the territory of southern Lebanon, controlled by Israel. 1 IDF soldier was killed.
On March 14, 1996, an Israeli patrol was ambushed. 8 soldiers were wounded.
On March 20, 1996, a suicide bomber blew himself up near a civilian vehicle followed by an army jeep. 1 Israeli soldier was killed and a passenger in a civilian vehicle was injured.
April 9, 1996 two volleys from the "Katyusha". 36 civilians were wounded.
On April 10, 1996, mortar fire killed one Israeli soldier and wounded two.
On June 25, 1996, a US military barracks was blown up in Saudi Arabia. According to some reports, this explosion was carried out in cooperation with al-Qaeda. 19 American servicemen were killed.
January 10, 1997 Members of the Baku branch of Hezbollah "Vilayati al-Faqih Hezbollah" murdered Azerbaijani historian and public figure Ziya Buniyatov, accusing him of collaborating with the Israeli intelligence Mossad [3].
In autumn 2000, Hezbollah captured 3 Israeli soldiers and kidnapped businessman Elhanan Tannenbaum in Switzerland, luring him to Lebanon. At a time when there was a brief skirmish between Hezbollah members and IDF soldiers before the kidnapping of the latter, Hezbollah artillery units began bombarding seven Israeli strongholds located in the Shebaa Farms area with 120-mm mortars and 107-mm Katyushas. In 70 minutes, the partisans fired 313 volleys.

[Catafract]

and these are not terrorists?

Hamas recruited Palestinians to participate in the war in Chechnya and in a number of other conflicts abroad, according to the online publication WorldTribune. Documents seized from Hamas militants in the West Bank and Gaza indicate that fighting in Chechnya is one of the leading areas in the Islamic struggle.

Among the propaganda materials, posters were found glorifying the anti-Russian jihad in Chechnya and its leader Shamil Basayev, associated with the international terrorist network Al-Qaeda. Afghanistan, the Balkans, Kashmir and Lebanon were named as other areas of the Islamic struggle, besides Palestine and Chechnya.

The Israeli military also turned up video footage urging Palestinians to support Chechen fighters and spreading to schools and youth clubs. These materials were discovered at the American University of Jenin, the University of Hebron and the orphanage, which is supported by Hamas.

Hamas has established contacts with Chechen militants as part of expanding ties with other Islamist movements. It is believed that the very organizational structure of Hamas was modeled after the example of the pro-Iranian group Hezbollah and the Chechen separatists who created the virtual republic of Ichkeria.

[padded jacket]

Did you write all this "nonsense" from Wikipedia?
They told you clearly:
Russia does not consider Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Kurdish Party of Democratic Unity to be terrorist organizations.

[vladkavkaz]

padded jacket
That's right, correctly identified.
As some interested forces want to quarrel Russia with the Arab East ..

[padded jacket]

Quote: vladkavkaz

As some interested forces want to quarrel Russia with the Arab East ..

Yes, they not only want to quarrel with the Arab East - they generally want a war between the Orthodox and Muslims, especially in our country.
Both the United States and Israel are pursuing a policy of pitting us with Muslims, in particular Arabs, in order to achieve a massacre and then observe with interest on our mutual extermination from the side.